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Bobby Bones
Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is a production of the NFL and iHeart podcasts. We got lots to say we got lots to say we're glad you're here and we hope you stay Cause we got lots to say yeah, we got lots to say. Now here's Bobby and Matt. What' Everybody, I think we should start by just talking about all of the moves or lack of moves, but a lot of money being spent. Have you ever thought about Matt getting into like, like general managing personnel? Has that ever been something you wanted to do?
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Matt Castle
It would be. It would be fun. I don't think I would want to get into the player personnel side just because those guys grind and they're always traveling, doing all that stuff, but actually being in the front office and working different types of deals, that would be fun. The landscapes changed so dramatically since when I came in. I mean, you think about even two years ago, salary caps at 234, it's at like 275 now. So you're just. You can sit there and play with money that's really the owner's money, but at the same time, go out, get the guys that you want, but it's going to the highest bidder.
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Bobby Bones
You think you'd be good scout?
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Matt Castle
Probably, but I'd also. I'm one of those guys that's very skeptical. So I'd sit there and I'd probably over evaluate somebody and find more weaknesses and strengths and then they'd be like, dude, this guy's awesome. I was like, sorry about that. I just, I thought maybe you'd be, you'd be a little bit upset that he, he stumbled out of his break or something. I don't know. I just be, you know, a little, probably too, too critical.
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Bobby Bones
I want to go over and use your critical skills here and let's talk about some of the moves and even if the player's not moving, some of the moves the teams have made to, to spend money on some of these players. So I will present what the situation is and you tell me if you think it is a game changer or if it's just, you know, stay in the course. The Bills extend Josh Allen six years, $330 million with 250 million guaranteed.
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Lowe's Representative
Wow.
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Matt Castle
It's good time to play quarterback in the NFL. I think this was just staying the course. Obviously goes out, wins the mvp. We talked about it the entire year about the talent that surrounded him. Probably wasn't comparable to other teams. But to go out and have the year that he did proves that he's that guy. And now he's the highest paid quarterback in the league and deservedly so.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah. And I think we've learned too, that if you sign your big players earlier, which is this is an extension more than it is, his contract was up. That even if it is a monster deal, when it comes back around, when his deal would have been up, they would have. It would have cost them a lot more than if they were to do it now. So as much as this is the. It's the biggest guaranteed contract of all time with 250, although the whole thing is not guaranteed, but the 250 is more than when the Browns made their knucklehead full guaranteed contract to Deshaun Watson. But what's going to happen is in six years you're going to go, oh yeah, that was kind of a deal in comparison to what, you know, teams are paying now. So yeah, they had to do it. You don't want to lose your guy if you get a quarterback now, the last thing you want to do is is let him go, especially if he's like a, in the top third of quarterbacks. So yeah, I'm with you. But it was a move that needed to be made. Let's go to the Rams signing Devonte Adams. The deal is two years, $46 million, 26 million guaranteed.
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Matt Castle
I like it to bring in a guy like Devonte Adams. He can still play, there's no doubt about that. Put him in Sean McVay with a veteran quarterback with Matthew Stafford, which they redid his deal as well. Now you've got a true guy on the outside and an alpha alpha male that is going to go out and produce. And I think that there's question marks about Devonte personality wise from the Raiders. You saw him on what was the, it wasn't the hard knocks, it was the wide receiver. Yeah, wide receiver. And you had some questions there going, man, I mean from a personality standpoint he, he ruffles the feathers a little bit, but at the same time he's still a hell of a player and will add a tremendous amount of value for that team in that offensive unit.
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Bobby Bones
And I think cup is as good as gone. I, you know, they even did the. We loved la. We hate to go, but it looks like we're going to have to go. But with Devonte Adams and Puka and Stafford, you know, is this the, the time of just putting it all on your offense, like all your money just going full offense and just hoping your defense can keep you in games.
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Matt Castle
Well, that's the thing about the Rams too. When you look at what they've done, they've drafted really well, particularly on the defensive side. The ball, they've got a ton of value on that side. So they're young, they're aggressive, you saw them in the playoffs, they just got better and better as the year went on. Now they sustained a lot of injuries on the offensive side of the ball, but if you surround Matthew Stafford, as talented as he is with a true grouping of wide receivers on the outside, I mean this team will compete for championships because that's the type of caliber I believe Matt Stafford is. So protect him up front and also put talent around him on the outside. I think that they have a great recipe for success.
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Bobby Bones
The Steelers traded for DK Metcalf and so the Seahawks got a 20, 25 second round pick and a late round pick swap for this upcoming draft. The Steelers get DK Metcalf and so with that though, so they have DK and now they have George Pickens.
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Matt Castle
George Pickens.
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Bobby Bones
What do you think about that trade for the second round pick?
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Matt Castle
I think it's awesome. DK Mad Metcalf is an absolute beast and he produces, he's consistent, he's usually healthy. So he's a true number one wide receiver. Then you have George Pickens on the other side. I mean you've got two potentially number one guys on the outside there. Puts you in a really good position at a playmaking standpoint for the Steelers. I think this is great trade.
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Bobby Bones
I look at Pittsburgh though, and it's like, who's going to throw the ball to those guys? You know, the, the this morning it was Rogers to Pittsburgh after it was Rogers to the Giants. And both of our predictions I was, mine was a Giant, yours was Pittsburgh. So I mean if they get Aaron Rodgers in Pittsburgh, that is, that is that offense is going to be good.
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Matt Castle
They're going to be really good. And that's might be the play is saying, hey look, we just went out and got DK Metcalf. Now you've got George Pickens, DK Metcat is it. Pat Friarmouth is their tight end run down the middle. So you've got these three components and that's attractive to any quarterback because if you're Aaron Rodgers, you're looking about where can I go in and have success? Where do they have people around me that can help me be the player that I need to be? Same thing when Tom Brady went to Tampa Bay at the end of his career, he went there because of the talent on that roster, particularly on the offensive side. So it becomes more attractive to, to a quarterback like Aaron Rodgers when you go out and you spend the money on another number one wide receiver. I think that they could be really good, but they definitely don't know who's going to be quarterback. But they put themselves in a position at least to make a play and make it attractive. Place to come.
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Bobby Bones
Miles Garrett was extended by the Browns and this was a soap oper because Miles Garrett put an ad in the paper in Cleveland was like, cleveland, I love you. I don't really want to leave the city, but I feel like the, the team isn't really doing blah, blah, blah. And then he goes and he's doing the press tour, and he kind of lost some of that love by the city. And he's like, I'm not playing. They're like, we're not trading you. And then the next thing you know, it's boom. Highest paid person that's not a quarterback ever. Four years, 160 million with 123 guaranteed. Holy crap. Thoughts?
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Matt Castle
Dude, he's an absolute stud. I never thought Cleveland was going to ever let him walk out of the door. Why would you trade your number one player on your team, one of the most dynamic defensive ends, if not the most dynamic defensive end, just because of his size, his speed, his versatility? They move him around. And so well played by him. I mean, let's. Let's throw a temper tantrum for a little bit, see what happens. And then gets rewarded with $160 million deal. I mean, it's. It's not exactly how you write it up, but at the end of the day, he got what he wanted. And now I guarantee he really loves the city of Cleveland so much more.
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Bobby Bones
I feel, honestly, like in my heart, I feel like he not so much wanted to leave Cleveland, but he wanted to play for a team and an organization that would give him a chance to win a championship because he is so elite. But 30 years old. And so he's got six, seven real prime years left in him. But a wise man named Ted DiBiase, WWF, once said, Everybody's got a price. I don't feel like he was really holding out for more money or saying, hey, I'm not going to play. I really feel like he wanted to leave. But there is a point. There is a threshold, and I guess that threshold is 160 million, where you're like, you know what? I have changed my mind.
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Matt Castle
I have changed. Guess what? I'll be in there in the gym tomorrow. I love Cleveland. I'm going to do a lot of stuff around the city and just. Yeah, my mind's totally changed now. It's. It's amazing what money can do.
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Bobby Bones
The Ravens and Ronnie Stanley, great deal. Three years, 60 million bucks. He's awesome.
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Matt Castle
Yeah, like, really good play.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah. If you're Derek Henry. If you're Lamar Jackson, it's. That's just a sigh of relief, right?
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Matt Castle
100. Because the most important guy on your offensive line is always your left tackle. He's your bookend. He's usually matched up against the best pass rusher that every other team has. So if you have somebody there that you trust that can cover your blind side and at the same time be a dominant force. That's just a headache that you don't have to worry about. So that's why they're so valuable. That left tackle position is because if you have a guy there that really stabilizes your offensive line because interior wise you can usually go out and get guys that are good enough to hold up on the inside, but those guys that are special on the outside, like Ronnie Stanley, you want to keep them around for as long as possible.
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Bobby Bones
Raiders trade for quarterback Geno Smith Seahawks got a 2025 third round pick, Gino back with Pete Carroll. So that's kind of cool. I do feel like they're drafting Gino and they're probably also, if I'm just guessing, going to draft Shador at six if he's there. So they're also going to get a young quarterback, but Geno Smith going to the Raiders. Thoughts?
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Matt Castle
I love it. I mean, I know Pete Carroll has a ton of respect. He was there when Geno resurrected his career just a few few years ago when they let go of Russell Wilson. But now he's got a bonafide number one quarterback coming in that he's familiar with. He can also help set the tone for culture and the personality of Pete Carroll and what's to be expected, He's a true leader. He's somebody that's well respected from what he's been through in his career, but also how he's performed when he got his opportunity. So I think it's a home run for the, I mean the Oakland Las Vegas Raiders and where they're going.
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Bobby Bones
I know I always, I do with the Chargers. I know and I do with the Chargers. Still San Diego.
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Matt Castle
San Diego.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah, same thing all the time. The Bears trading for Tuney from the Chiefs. I was a bit surprised. I mean especially with the Chiefs. I won't say offensive line woes because they had some injuries, but they got a fourth round pick for him. What are your thoughts on that?
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Matt Castle
I was not expecting that either. I mean Tunney was their most valuable offensive lineman last year. Not only did he play guard, he moved out in played left tackle as well when they had the injuries and, and all the stuff going on. So he was a guy that was a staple guy on that, on that offensive line. But it was interesting that they traded him away for a fourth round pick. It might have been because of salary cap issues or whatever they deemed was the reasoning behind it, but Chicago picks up a home run again. For them because they want to protect Caleb Williams moving forward and to solidify that offensive line who struggled last year for Chicago. Bring in a guy like Tuni again, veteran presence, good locker room guy, and also has played at a really high level throughout his career. That's a, that's a great pickup for Chicago.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah, I guess if I'm putting my speculator eyeball on, it's obviously resigning Trey Smith a priority with, with Kansas City, and then they're going to have to just draft a couple offensive linemen. But that is one thing Kansas City has been able to do really well with Andy Reid and that organization there is draft well and have guys you don't have to pay a lot to because they're in their rookie deals while also having your guys that are making the big money and, and consistently moving them when it's time for some of those guys to get paid and then redraft well, again, because that's the key to keeping the organization successful. Right. Is drafting well year after year.
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Matt Castle
A hundred percent. Because you only have so many draft picks and if you hit on first round, second rounds a little bit different because those guys are usually bonafide studs. Right. But then you get into the third and fourth round and continue to draft well and get guys that come in and develop at such a rate the way that they have in the history of success that they've had with drafting guys like that, that's what really stabilizes your organization for the long haul and that's what they've been able to do. Now, it's always a question mark. If you don't go out and take care of that offensive line, especially when you have Patrick Mahomes back there, then there'll be a lot of questions to be answered. There's no doubt about that. But due to their recent history and throughout their regime under Andy Reid, they've done a remarkable job and they're hoping to hit success with those draft picks again.
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Bobby Bones
All right, so I'm recording this after Matt and I have already split up. Matt and I were working from different locations and a lot of news broke as far as free agents. So I wanted to make sure we got them all cleared here. Not that you can't see them online, let's be honest. But we don't want you guys think, wow, I can't believe they missed Justin Fields. So, okay, we'll go first. The jets signed quarterback Justin fields to a two year, $40 million deal. And what sucks for me is I had this massive Steelers championship belt that's signed by Justin Fields. Now, what the crap am I supposed to do with that? The big news was the Seahawks signed Sam Darnold to a three year, $100 million deal. I think everybody and their cousin and their mama and their mailman figured that was going to happen once Geno Smith went from Seattle down to the Raiders. And so they had money and they had space and they wanted a quarterback. But now who are they going to throw to? Right, Because DK Metcalf is gone. So that'd be interesting to watch. But the Sam Darnold, I wouldn't even call it saga. Like, it's exciting. I'm super pumped for him. I never even met him. I know people who know him say he's a great young dude. So rooting for Sam darnold there. The 49ers released Kyle Juszczyk after eight seasons. Kind of blows my mind a little bit. Not because I'm in the Kyle Juszyk fan club, but because he seemed like such a 49er, like such a gritty player that would do it all, but it all came down to dollars. I actually presented with Kyle Juszczyk at the NFL honors this year on Fox. So I got a chance to know him, I mean, a little bit. We spent a couple hours together. I love that dude. And I asked him, hey, will you be released after eight seasons? And he said, why are you asking me this? I have no idea. And then I said, I don't know. I didn't even ask him that. Najee Harris signs a one year deal with the Chargers that with incentives can be up to $9.25 million. I actually really like the signing. Whenever Matt and I were talking about underrated free agents a couple weeks ago, I put Najee Harris there. I think Najahira still has some tread on the tires. The Cowboys, hey, they signed a running back. What do you know? What do you freaking know? I mean, he is a, he does run with the ball, so he is a running back. But Javante Williams from the Broncos, one year, $3 million deal, I don't know he's going to be setting any rushing records, but they do need people that actually know how to put the point of their finger over the ball as they run through the line. So how about them Cowboys? The Saints resigned Chase young to a three year deal, up to 57 million bucks. I do like that. And also they got him for a pretty good price. The Vikings signed Byron Murphy, cornerback, three years, $66 million. And the Broncos signed former 49ers defensive players Dre Greenlaw, who I love Dre Greenlaw, but I'm big Arkansas guy and safety Talanoa Hufanga. So the Broncos looking to add defensively to what was already a better defense, but an offense where they finally have a quarterback they trust. So Denver just continues to get better. I did see and I give you one other thing here because there are starting to be some rumors about some of these other backup quarterbacks and where they're going to land. But Zach Wilson to the Dolphins. How about that? Zach Wilson gets a reported one year deal with the Miami Dolphins. He will be to his backup, which means he'll play, I don't know, nine games. But Zach Wilson will be the backup one year, $6 million deal. You got to wonder if the jets did to Zach Wilson what the jets did to Sam Darnold, what the jets did to we can continue to do this with like eight different quarterbacks, but I do like to see quarterbacks who are in a bad situation get a chance and maybe with the Dolphins and Mike McDaniels he will be able to develop a bit and get another shot at a starting job somewhere. So okay, that was me breaking in. I'm sure many other things will be broken since then. I just didn't want to forget those thank you for listening to Lots to say.
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Bobby Bones
We're going to a segment called what Were they like where I'm going to ask you about somebody, Matt, that I think you had a relationship in some way. I don't know any stories about it and you just tell me what were they like and then you do the same to me. I'll go first. Dustin Colquitt, the punter. Like I've heard some pretty interesting stories about him in general. Like what kind of guy was he?
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Matt Castle
Oh, he was hilarious, dude. He was, he was an out of the box thinker, prankster. I remember he was always that guy that that in the locker room and all that was pulling pranks, having fun. When the guy coaches would come and do bed check, he'd put on this gold sequence like thong and lay down on the bed like this as they're walking in and you're like, what are you doing right now? But the all time story that I remember, so Ryan, suck up, our other kicker was telling me this story. There's a guy by the name of Anthony Sherman and he had a brand new souped up truck. And so Dustin hijacked his, I don't know, Twitter or whatever and basically said he was donating it to charity. So Anthony Sherman had no idea that this was happening. So all of a sudden it started to blow up on Twitter and everything. Like he's on Pat McAfee had him on. Like, this is amazing. And Anthony Sherman had no idea that he had done this. But now he's backed into a corner. Like, what am I supposed to do? So he ends up raffling it off, gives his truck away. His brand new truck that he had souped up like wheels. Everything else gives his truck away because Dustin set this thing in motion as a joke, but it caught so much fire and so much attention. He was on the news, he was on Pat McAfee. He's blowing up. So then he doesn't know what to do. Now I do think that somebody donated him another truck after they heard the story. Thank God. But I was like, Dustin, who does that one? I would beat your for selling my truck without me knowing who. Like to go to that extreme and just be like, oh, this would be hilarious. I was like, what is, what are you doing? I mean it was unbelievable.
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Bobby Bones
That's pretty funny. And if whenever he was auctioning off his truck he didn't know he was going to get another one, that shows you what kind of guy he was. Like he was backed into a corner but still committed to giving it away. And then whomever that was that donated a truck later, like shout out to you. Because you made it all better and even. But that's funny.
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Matt Castle
That was pretty funny. I was like, that's pretty good stuff. Now you were on American Idol, and I know you know Lionel Richie. So tell me a little bit about a good Lionel Richie story.
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Bobby Bones
Okay, what was Lionel Richie like? First of all, I was on Idol for four years and Lionel Richie is famous. Whenever being famous was, everybody knew you. Now famous, so fractured. You can be like the greatest broccoli influencer. And like, people like, oh, I follow Trisha Broccoli and she's like, she's famous to, like, a very select few people. It's hard to be just ubiquitous where you exist everywhere. Lionel Richie was that famous. Like, this is like the 80s, the early 90s. So massively rich, obviously. Massive star. Not only writing, singing, tour and in every way. So you really don't know how cool someone's going to be when they are that big. But through my experience now of having a life of working with middle, easy, famous and very famous people, the very famous people are often the nicest because they have nothing to prove. There is no insecurity. The comparison would be soap opera actor to Tom Hanks. Well, Tom Hanks has nothing to prove. Tom Hanks is just a dude, good dude being who he is because he has no insecurity. He's Tom Hanks. Where the soap opera actor may be like, yeah, I'm cool. I got my. All my guys with me. I got my crowd, my posse, where I got all my fancy clothes on, trying to prove how cool I am. Well, Lionel Richie was the absolute kindest, greatest guy ever. I have two really fun Lionel Richie stories now. I was fortunate enough to get to be around him a lot. It wasn't even just a spot here, a spot there. Like, we would have dinners and when Lionel would tell a story, everybody shuts up. And that's a room where people are again fighting for oxygen because Luke Bryan's there and you know, Luke now, and Katy Perry's there and Lionel's there and I'm there and Ryan Seacrest is there. And so. And Katie at the time, like Katie's husband, Orlando Bloom was there. So everybody has like, everybody's used to be in the center of attention in that group. So it's almost like a battle royal. Who's going to win? So everybody's doing story after story, but when Lionel starts talking and he's very. He's calm, he's very calculated, and he's like, you know, Aretha Franklin once left me a voicemail everybody shuts up immediately because Lionel's talking. He doesn't demand it, but because he's Lionel and he has the greatest stories, he automatically gets it. Story number one. We were in Savannah, Georgia, and we're all sitting around a dinner table, and again, same thing. Everybody's talking, and it's just like, you wait for somebody to take a breath, you jump in with a story, or you just get swallowed. So everybody's doing their thing. And Lionel goes, you know, I flew from California over to Europe. And I'm just going to paraphrase the story a little bit, but he was like, most of the time, I would fly private. I'd fly my own plane, he said, and this time, I wasn't able to get my plane, so I flew commercial. Now, Lionel has been a hundred millionaire, billionaire. I don't know for how long. So you know what? Not crazy that he flew privately from the states to Europe, because that's about a $200,000 flight. But if Lionel's flying over to play some prince's private show for a million dollars, that's. That's that. And he wants to fly over. Yeah, he wants to fly over and have his energy. And he said, I was flying commercial, and I was in first class, and I decided to take a nap, and I wasn't used to all the people around me, and so I fell asleep, and I woke up, and there was a phone taking a picture of me. And I was a little startled by the phone because I'm not used to people taking pictures of me while I sleep. And he said, so I called the flight attendant over, and I said, flight attendant, would I be able to get an acai smoothie with a certain kind of berry with a little honey, and can I get it with some cinnamon? And she said, no, we don't have that. And he said, that's the last time I'm flying commercial. But it was like such a version of a rich guy that I was like, dang. Even when Lionel tells us stories of being rich, like, he's awesome. But my favorite, favorite favorite ever was we were about to do an episode of Idol. I think it was my second season there. And Ryan had never missed a show. Ryan is on time all the time, everywhere. The ultimate professional is Ryan Seacrest. And it was about 12 minutes before the show started, and Ryan still was not there. And so they began to be concerned. And he called. He's like, I'm sick. I can't even get up. And usually if you're sick and I've done this doing my standup shows. You get a steroid shot, it takes a minute, you get it back for a while, you got a bunch of energy, and then you die afterward. But you're able to get the job done. Ryan was. He was so sick, he was not able to do that. So it's minutes before the show starts, and they say, hey, Bobby, we need you to host the show. Now, I don't think it's bigger than I am, but I had no rehearsing as far as, like, where to go on the stage. Stage direction is a big deal, especially doing live television, because cameras are going. It was also a celebrity episode where celebrities were singing with the artists. And so I'm like, okay, cool. Can you run me through stage direction real quick? And they're like, got it. So they run me through, and there's like four minutes left. And all of a sudden, I'm standing backstage, I'm just kind of looking at notes, and someone taps me on the shoulder. Now, where the judges sit when we record is all the way across the theater. I mean, it is a pretty far walk, and so it wasn't a short walk. But with about four minutes to go, that tap on my shoulder, I turn around and it's Lionel Richie. And he's like, bobby. And I say, hey, Lionel, what's up? He goes, I just wanted to give you some words of encouragement. He goes, the year was 1971. And I'm in, right? I know we only got four minutes, but he's talking slow. He's also talking slow. And I'm like, oh, boy, we're going to get there in time. And he says, the Commodores. He goes, that was my band. And the Commodores, we had never really had a look on national television. And we get a call, and they're like, they need you on American Bandstand in five hours. Can you be there? And. And we looked at each other, and we're like, are we ready for this? And we thought. We don't think we're ready. But you know what? We're going to show up, and we're going to do it. And you know what, Bobby? We showed up and we dominated that night on American Bandstand. And that is a big reason as to why the Commodores existed. And that's why Lionel Richie is right here on this show, because when they called us, we showed up and we did it to the best of our ability, what we had been practicing for our whole life. And that is what you're about to do, right Now. So I want you to walk out there and be the Commodores. And I'm thinking to myself as you're talking, this is like the coolest pump up speech I've ever had in my whole life. Like, this is a crazy Lionel Richie. And so it almost felt like a TV show. Especially those Christmas shows where Santa Claus is like talking to somebody and they know Santa Claus is like Uncle Frank or something. But then you turn around and Santa Claus is gone. And you're like, maybe that was Santa Claus. I turned around, there's no Lionel Richie. He was nowhere. I don't know how he. He was over 70 years old and he was gone. And I look back and he's.
- [33:15]
Matt Castle
That is unreal.
- [33:16]
Bobby Bones
He's at the table and I walked out and did a great job. But he was so giving, he was so kind. And he just was the opposite of what you think someone that famous would be. And after I left Idol and he's so famous, you think, I probably forgets everybody. It was like two years later, we were both in Vegas and I get a text says, hey, Lionel, just saw on social media you're in Vegas. Do you and your wife want to come over and go meet up with him and his wife? And I was like, first of all, shocked. Even remembered two. Two years later. So we did. And he remember it. It was awesome. I could not say enough great things. He didn't wear a gold thong in a bed, which would have been awesome. That have been awesome. But Lionel Richie a plus.
- [33:56]
Matt Castle
That's solid. I mean, in the fact that you said he called in, Seacrest called in.
- [34:02]
Bobby Bones
How.
- [34:03]
Matt Castle
How long before the show?
- [34:04]
Bobby Bones
Well, Seacrest was trying to get there, so it wasn't that he was like calling in, going like disappear, but he was trying to, like, build it up so he could go and do the show. But he finally was not doing it at about 12 minutes before the show started.
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- [34:19]
Matt Castle
Yeah, dude, that is. You just have to kind of gather yourself, I would think, a little bit. You didn't have any adrenaline or anything like that. You're like, I got this. Be a Commodore.
- [34:29]
Bobby Bones
Okay. I'm going to, I'm going to put this back on you. This is the same thing that happened. This is. These are our lives in parallel. That's the same thing that happened to you and Brady, bro.
- [34:38]
Matt Castle
True statement. True statement.
- [34:40]
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
- [34:41]
Matt Castle
Yeah, I was just, I was just thinking that. Okay. Yeah, yeah. You prepare for it. You're. You feel like you're ready, but you don't know until you know, like your direction you to go out there and you're like, all right, let's go. Let's do it and see what happens.
- [34:52]
Bobby Bones
And you just trust the process that what you've been doing the whole time has led you to this place to be able to perform at a level. Now, I don't remember the first three or four minutes of it. I think I kind of semi blacked out. I was just like, there were, like, three to go, and I was like. I remember starting on the prompter. My first things were, welcome to American Idol. I am not Ryan Seacrest. And it wasn't even in the prompter, but I said that. And then I don't remember the first few minutes. And I think you said the same thing about when you got in after Brady got hurt.
- [35:22]
Matt Castle
It's just adrenaline, man. You go in and all of a sudden they say, hey, Castle, you're going in. And you can feel. I felt my heartbeat, felt the ears. And plus, there's 90,000 or whatever it was 80, 90,000 people there sitting there going, man, this sucks. Castle's going in. Who's this guy? Right? Including myself. So, like, you get through the whole first series is a blur, and then all of a sudden, you calm yourself down a little bit, and then you're starting to get into sequence and you know, oh, this is football. This is what I've been training for. But those first. That first series or first few minutes, where you're just overwhelmed by emotion, really, and it's all about controlling those emotions. It's wild.
- [36:00]
Bobby Bones
Did you have a moment? Because I did where before we went on, I looked up and they have the massive American Idol logo. And that has been such a big part of American pop culture for decades, where I looked at it and I was like, man, for a second, I just want to appreciate that this has been a stable in American pop culture, and I'm about to host this. Did you ever have one of those moments, like your first time in where you looked at something and were like, huh, this is real. I'm going to take a second. It's going to be real cool.
- [36:24]
Matt Castle
No, not at all. Mine was full fear factor. Mine was like, just don't mess it up. I'm being dead honest. Like, I wish I could have sat there and taken the moment in. I think the first time I was able to do that was the following game, and I told you this story where we went to the jets, we played them, and ended up being him, and Brett Favre was the opposing quarterback, and he came over, shook my hand, and at that point, I. It kind of came full circle. I was like, that was one of the coolest moments that's ever happened. Like, the fact that Brett Favre of my childhood idol came over and shook my hand, but prior to that, no, I was a fish out of water, man. I'm just, like, trying to stay afloat. Come on, babe. Come on, give me some oxygen.
- [37:04]
Bobby Bones
I got to meet Matt's wife, and. Because I hadn't met your wife yet, but Matt and I have very close mutual friends, which is part of the reason we're doing the show together, because they, like, vouch to each of us for each other. And so I had a show at what's called the Ryman auditorium here in Nashville. It's a very legendary place. And I got to. To meet your wife, and. Yeah, she looks like she would destroy somebody on a volleyball court. Like, she looks an A plus athlete. I can tell just by looking in her eyes.
- [37:32]
Matt Castle
She's definitely a better athlete than I am. She's definitely more springy. Just an absolute stud. And she's got one of those personalities, too, you know, like, there's women that like to work out. She likes to get after it. And she. She just. She could have been a Navy seal, I think, with the mindset that she has. But she's always. She's always been a stud and really good mom, too. But I also got to meet your wife, who couldn't have been sweeter. And a lot of your family was there as well. I mean, and let's talk about the. The raging idiots for a second. I mean, you put on a show like you wouldn't believe if you guys have never seen Bobby in this crew. I mean, you guys absolutely slayed.
- [38:10]
Bobby Bones
Well, okay, let's. Let's. Let's do that, then, for a second.
- [38:13]
Matt Castle
So can we get into that?
- [38:15]
Bobby Bones
We can.
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- [38:17]
Bobby Bones
And I was super grateful you came, because I know you have a bunch of kids, right? You have five kids, so that's. It's not like you can just leave at any moment, so. And it was a Tuesday night, and we do this show. We've done it every year for 10 years. We had to stop for Covid for a minute, but for St. Jude, and we give all the money to that hospital, and.
- [38:38]
Matt Castle
Yeah, tell them how much money you raised for St. Jude's it's an incredible cause.
- [38:42]
Bobby Bones
Well, overall, like $27 million.
- [38:46]
Matt Castle
Phenomenal. Yeah, phenomenal.
- [38:47]
Bobby Bones
Yes, it's great. And so we made, you know, some hundreds of thousands that night, and we had a Lot of friends show up and play with us, but I guess I never thought that you had never seen me in that element because we've just done this together. Is that. Was that weird? Like, I come out and I gotta have a guitar. Like, you don't know me as that at all. Like, the guy doing comedy. Is that. Was that a bit bizarre?
- [39:10]
Matt Castle
It was a little different. I mean, and then the next thing I know, you're literally on stage, headlining, just rocking with the red. The red jacket, red microphone, dancing your face off. I didn't know you had those kind of moves. And then. Then you. You're busting out with the lyrics. You might have burned, I don't know, 20,000 calories just in that one night with. As long as you've been on stage, dancing and singing, playing your guitar, it was incredible. And you played with everybody.
- [39:35]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, that's the hard part, because I'm not what would be a traditional musician. So for me to have to learn a bunch of music is tough because I play guitar, but I don't play guitar in Nashville. It's the giants of music. Right. So can I grab a guitar? I just learned it so I can do comedy. But, yeah, it was a really fun show. And if anybody's listening to this, we'll do it again next year, probably at the Ryman, and you should come. And I just thought I would rather get in a fight with Matt than his wife, because I think she would tear my head off. Like, very attractive, very feminine, but still, I was like, I can see why she was a pro. Like a volleyball player at that level.
- [40:12]
Matt Castle
Yeah, she's a stud. She's a stud. What was your favorite act? And I thought one of the funniest things was when you had your glasses on. That was playing O Town.
- [40:20]
Bobby Bones
Okay. It was so stupid. I hated it.
- [40:22]
Matt Castle
That was one of the funniest things it was. I've ever seen.
- [40:24]
Bobby Bones
It was. It was.
- [40:25]
Matt Castle
It was very funny.
- [40:26]
Bobby Bones
It wasn't funny. So I do things that are supposed to be funny, and, like, I do comedy stuff and I play comedy songs. But. And this wasn't supposed to be funny. I thought I was having, like, schizophrenia because O Town. I used to be in O Town, the boy band, way back in the day. And so they came out, we reunited for the first time in years. And afterward, I kept hearing their music. And so I asked my band, do you guys hear. Then I asked the crowd, do you guys hear their song? And that was like, no, no, no. And I'm like, I'm hearing things. So I put my monitor back in my ear, I don't hear anything. I put my ear down on the monitor, on the ground, I don't hear anything. We play another song, but the whole time anybody's playing anything, I still hear the O Town song in my ear. And I'm going, I'm going berserk right now. Turns out I have those meta glasses that take pictures and play music. I didn't realize the music was playing through my glasses. And that's why I was the only person that could hear it, because I literally was the only person that could hear it. And everybody else was like, dude, you're going crazy. Yes, that sucked.
- [41:21]
Matt Castle
That was. It probably sucked. But like, from a show standpoint, I was just laughing my off going because everybody you asked that, none of them were like, no, I have no idea what you're talking about. Which probably made you feel even crazier.
- [41:33]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, my whole band was like, we have. I thought they were playing a prank on me. I literally thought they were playing a prank on me. So yeah, it was a fun night. And yeah, that's all. I'm glad. I'm glad it's over because we just want to pull it off. And we did. And I appreciate everybody who came out. And we're going to take a little break. When we come back, we're going to do something called Big Take or Big Fake. And so I'm going to give you an opinion. Either it is my opinion, this is my Big take, or it is not my opinion. And I'm just trying to convince you it is. Are we going to play Big Take or Big Fake? We'll do that next.
- [42:15]
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Bobby Bones
All right, so this is all big take or big fake? So what I'll do Matt is I will give you an opinion and you tell me if I really believe it or if I really don't believe it and I'm just trying to fake you out. Yeah. You ready?
- [45:58]
Matt Castle
Okay.
- [45:59]
Bobby Bones
Daniel Jones is and will be a Pro bowl quarterback. Do you think I believe that?
- [46:06]
Matt Castle
I do think you believe that because I've heard you talk about Daniel Jones and I know you have an affinity for him. So you and I have had a little bit of discussions before about just situational fit for him with the Giants. He thought he got a raw deal, but he's a guy that's capable from a physical standpoint to go out there and get it done. And he's played well at different times in his career, but you put him in the right situation, and he's somebody that has the skill set to go out and be a Pro bowl quarterback. So I do believe that you believe that.
- [46:38]
Bobby Bones
That is a big correct take, and here's why. Now we're still waiting on again as of this recording, because everything is so fluid. If he ends up with the Colts, he'll start.
- [46:49]
Matt Castle
Yeah.
- [46:50]
Bobby Bones
If he ends up with the vikings, depending on McCarthy's injury, JJ McCarthy's injury, he. He may play. And right now, those are the two teams that they're. They're indicating he could sign with. But, I mean, when you look at. And I. I went deep. He played behind one of the worst offensive lines in the NFL, not only last year, but the year before. He got sacked 30 times in six games before he tore his ACL. And. Yeah. So not only was he getting crushed, he then had an. The ACL injury in 2022 and Abel's first season. Listen to the stats that Daniel Jones had 3,205 passing yards, a 67.2% completion rate, 15 touchdowns, five interceptions, 708 rushing yards, and seven rushing touchdowns. He took the Giants to the playoffs and won a playoff game. That's how. That's when he was healthy. That's it. That's just when he was healthy. There's nothing else to say. I just think he is a much better quarterback than people are giving him credit for. But it's hard to give somebody credit when they haven't played well or they've been injured. Because we don't really see how bad an offensive line is just by watching on television.
- [47:58]
Matt Castle
Right. And the offensive line is everything to a quarterback, because if you drop back and you trust the guys in front of you, then your process isn't sped up. Your sense of urgency is you're going through your reads like you should, but all of a sudden you're getting hit and hit and hit. Well, all those things change, especially from the mental side because you're a little bit more rushed or you take off, run maybe when you have to hang in there a little bit longer. But those, those hits have an impact on a quarterback. And so you put him with a good offensive line, good coaching staff. I think he'll excel in a big way.
- [48:30]
Bobby Bones
And if he does play with the Vikings, I think he's just on a, we'll call it a one year Sam Darnold plan where even if he goes in and backs them up, the same thing Darnold did in San Francisco, which I think was kind of the plan in Minnesota as well, maybe he started a bit before JJ McCarthy was able to play, but I mean, these guys get behind an offensive minded head coach that actually allows them to develop and then they go and play really well afterward. So I'm excited for Daniel Jones. I never met him, but I've been rooting for him and I feel like he, if he is given the right weapons, and I'll say weapons, even as offensive lineman, like he has proven he's been really good. All right, next up, is this a big take or a big fake? Dak Prescott will never win a Super bowl with the Dallas Cowboys.
- [49:15]
Matt Castle
That's a big take. I think that you believe that they haven't proven since the 1990s that they can one go deep in the playoffs, let alone win the Super Bowl. It's challenging for every team, every single year. But you're also in a division with the Eagles, right? You're also in a conference that you're not a top contender year in, year out. Now you have your good years and I think that they're always competitive. I just don't know if it's going to be under Dak Prescott during his tenure there. I hope it is because I think he's a heck of a player. There's no doubt about it. I just don't know if they'll be able to get over that hump.
- [49:52]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, I think Dax a really good quarterback as well. He is still, even after Josh Allen's new contract, making more per year than Josh Allen. Dak's still the highest paid quarterback at 60 million a year. And I don't think it's totally because of Dak. You're right, it's another big take. All these may be true, by the way. There is no rhyme or reason, but he's been the Cowboys quarterback for eight seasons. He's not made an NFC championship game. The Cowboys dominate for the most part in the regular season. And it's been a Cowboys pattern at this point. His playoff records, 2 and 5. The Cowboys, as you mentioned, have had a Super bowl drought of 30 years. And it's not so much a Dak thing, but a Jerry Jones thing. And I love Jerry Jones. Jones. But if we're just looking at the data that has been presented to us in a vacuum and with. They're about to have to pay. They paid Dak. They paid cd they got Micah Parsons to pay. And to pay him is going to be even more expensive now that you've had Max Crosby and you also had. Yeah. Miles Garrett just signed for that money. So his value just went up. And they've been waiting, just been like kicking the can on signing him.
- [51:02]
Matt Castle
I know. And that's the thing is when you wait and then you start to see these big contracts roll through, it actually hurts the organization. Because Micah Parson, I guarantee his representation, sitting there and going, look at these two guys. I'm younger than both of them. I've got a lot more in the tank. You're going to be up there in that area right there. So it's going to cost them more money now that they waited and dragged their feet on. Sign them.
- [51:27]
Bobby Bones
The Steelers should move on from Mike Tomlin. He cannot win the big games anymore. Is that a real take or is that a big fake?
- [51:35]
Matt Castle
I believe it's a big fake. The reason I say that I love Mike Tomlin. I think he's been one of the most successful coaches during his tenure of any coach in the NFL. And I don't know what the run was for the playoffs in terms of how many consecutive playoffs he's gone to, but he's already proven that he's been able to win big games. I think for him. Also, anytime you lose your franchise quarterback, a Roethlisberger, for instance, it takes some time to find that next guy. From Kenny Pickett, you bring in Russell Wilson, you have Justin Fields. You've got a number of different guys that come into that organization that don't fit the mold to be your franchise guy. Well, it's hard to win games in this league, let alone win games consistently, when you don't have a real number one at the quarterback position. If they're able to solidify that position. I think Mike Tomlinson, we've known his track record and the type of defensive unit that they consistently have. If the offense catches up with that, I believe that they put themselves in another position to win a championship.
- [52:31]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, I don't believe that at all. I, I like you think Mike Tomlin is a, a fantastic coach and I think he's had teams that probably in any other scenario probably win four games, five games. But because he is such a great coach. But it again, it lends itself to if you do not have a quarterback, if you do not have a, a B, B plus, A minus a quarterback, it's going to be hard to win enough games to make a deep run. I think because he has had a lack of a number one since Big Ben that it's been award winning coaching that has gotten them to 500 or above every single year. So. But the problem has been that, that purgatory, right? I mean if you don't lose a lot of games, you're not going to get a top pick unless you trade for it and, or therefore you can't win a lot of games because you don't have the personnel to win the game. So he's been in this weird purgatory. But it would be nice to see him get a quarterback. Like even if it's Aaron Rodgers. And I cannot stand Aaron Rodgers used to love him like nine months ago. I loved Aaron Rodgers. Like I like outspoken people. I do. Even if I don't agree with them. Yes. I feel like he got a, he started acting like he was smarter than everybody instead of just being smarter than most people. I so therefore I started to not like him as much and not even for what he was saying, just for like how he seemed. So I've been an Aaron Rodgers guy. I would like, even though I'm not anymore, I would like Aaron Rodgers to go to the Steelers. I think that would be cool. Even though I picked the Giants and to have Mike Tomlin have a shot at having an offense that can actually win him games, not a defense that needs to win him games where you just beg the offense to not lose you games.
- [54:14]
Matt Castle
Right? Exactly. When you have a defense that can go out and play the way that they do, they're always going to be in tight, tight games. But then all of a sudden you put a guy like Aaron Rodgers in there with the dudes that they have with Medcat and Metcalf and Pickens and somebody that can deliver the ball and get up two scores. That's a tough football team to beat. When you're not just grinding it out. You know that you have confidence in that offensive side of the ball to take the, take the ball down the field and score on a continuous basis. That's, that's when it gets fun for any team because you you've got talent on both sides of the ball and you can compete at a really high level with anybody.
- [54:57]
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Bobby Bones
If I were to ask you when talking about wide receivers, we're talking about Pittsburgh specifically, and you have Pickens and you have dk. Different kinds of receivers, but both elite. But if I were to say who who were the grittiest wide receivers you ever played with and you can define gritty however you want, like who would be your top three?
- [58:45]
Matt Castle
You know, I think in 2007 when or 2008 when I was in New England, I mean Randy Moss was there and that dude was nobody could go up and out compete him for a ball. He had incredible hands. He scared you with his speed. He was a really smart football player. Another guy that was there at the same time is Wes Wilker, which I don't think he gets enough credit. He had five seasons with over 100 and something catches and he's a guy that controlled the middle field. Nobody could cover him man to man underneath. Smart player, would go over the middle, take the tough hits and he would sacrifice his body more than you'd like him to. But at the same time, I mean, nobody could cover him. So those guys both. When you say gritty, a guy like DEZ Bryant, who I was only with for one season in Dallas, he's another guy that was just an absolute dog on the field. Now he would definitely get after me if I didn't throw him the ball. I was scared for my life. I'm not gonna lie. I was sitting there going, man, he might try to hurt me like on the sideline right now. So he was just one of those dudes. Now he had some injuries early in that season. He had like a stress fracture in his foot. So he wasn't fully himself, which I know for any player that Competes at a really high level. That's super frustrating because he was used to just absolutely going out there and dominating. But it took some time for him to get back from that injury, obviously with the foot to heel Dwayne Bow, he's another guy that was a dog. Now, he was different from a gritty standpoint because he was just big and physical and without physical, you. But he was the nicest guy. Now he'd tell me sometimes he'd be like, hey, Cass, I was open on that. And I'd look at the picture and be like, dwayne, there's two guys over here and the safety's way above you. I'm not gonna throw you that ball ever. He's like, all right, Cass, just next time. So he was cool like that, but he was a savage on the field. So I've played with a lot of ultra talented wide receivers that had that gritty nature, and I think that that just kind of goes with the position itself. If you're an elite wide receiver, then you have something inside of you that is like, give me the ball and I'll outcompete anybody that's up against me. I don't care who it is.
- [60:53]
Bobby Bones
Was Moss the guy you mostly could just go, well, can't even really see see him, but I know where he's kind of supposed to be.
- [60:59]
Matt Castle
Throw 100%. You just throw it in his area. I remember the first touchdown pass I threw that season. I skyrocketed this thing. Nobody. I didn't think anybody was going to catch it. I thought the first section in the stadium was going to catch it. He goes up, points it, boom, brings it down. I was like, oh, what a good play by me. No, it was a better play by you, Moss. Oh, this is a funny story, actually. Moss is another dude as I. I talk about him constantly because a lot of people don't understand how smart he was. But we're playing Seattle in Seattle. We get in the huddle and Moss is on the outside and he's like, we're about to start the series. So we're all in the huddle, and Moss never wanted to look at the quarterback because he never wanted to give anything away. So he starts talking to me. He's like, cass, he's like, hey, I'm going up the rail. Just throw it up the rail. They're. They're sitting on me. They're squatting on me. And I was like, you've got an end cut on this play. He's like, no, I'm Going up the rail. I was like, well, why don't we talk about when we go over there? He got so mad, he's like, castle, Brady was here. We. We throw that the rail. And I was like, well, Brady ain't here. And he said. And then that's the. So he didn't look at me that entire conversation. As soon as I said that, he said, what the f. Did you say to me, Castle? I thought he was going to try to kill me. In the huddle, the lineman broke it up. I was like, this is amazing. But it was just one of those things where he knew what he wanted to get done. And a lot of times we'd go over, make that adjustment and work exactly how he'd say.
- [62:18]
Bobby Bones
If a wide receiver was unhappy with you or if you were unhappy with a wide receiver, meaning they ran a wrong route, where would that conversation be? Would it be in the huddle or would you guys do it on the sideline?
- [62:32]
Matt Castle
Usually I'd get after them on the field. Like, if we're in the middle of a series and they were short on route or they ran the wrong route or they weren't at the right depth, I'd get them on the field, and I had no problem getting after him. And those guys understood anybody that ever played with me. And most. Most wide receiver quarterbacks, they have that relationship where they know it's not personal, but it is me holding you accountable. And the same thing that they would hold me accountable if I messed up. And so that's part of the being a quarterback is you got to get after guys on the field sometimes. But if it's sideline and you don't really know what happened, then you go over, you look at pictures and you say, well, what are we doing here? And then that conversation happens. Now, it's probably a little bit more tempered on the sideline. It can occasionally get superheated. But in the huddle or if you're on the field and I see it, then it would probably get a pretty good. It'd be a good back and forth between myself and the wide receiver.
- [63:24]
Bobby Bones
It's an interesting time because a lot of these guys are either staying with a team that they were with, so they're like resigning, or they're a free agent, they're deciding to stay, or they're moving. What is that? Like, kind of not knowing where you're going to go. Like, the personal part of that, because again, we're seeing these players and we're like, oh, cool, devonte's going to LA or so and so is going there. But, like, you're a human being with a wife and a family. What is that unknowing?
- [63:53]
Matt Castle
Like, it's unnerving to be honest with you, because you get in that position where you know your contract's up and you're probably already in negotiations. Are we going to be back with the team that I played for the last four years, or however long you have, and you're settled in that community. You have your home, you've got your family, the kids probably in school if they're of, you know, of age to go to school. So then you're sitting there going, maybe we're going back here. But then as soon as you start to realize they're not going to resign you, there's a little bit of excitement, but you have to have everybody on board. And I've been blessed to have a wife that understands the dynamics of what I did for a living. She played sports, so it was always an adventure for us. At the same time, the older I got, the more difficult it got and the more unnerving because you're sitting there going, okay, where am I going to go now? And also, what does that quarterback situation look like? What is there an opportunity for me to compete? Am I going to be a bridge guy, or am I going truly there to be a backup and help some young guy develop a little bit more? So there's all those different dynamics. And then as you start to see these guys get signed at your position, you're like, well, hell, I'm better than him. Like, what's going on here? Why don't I have a job? And then you start questioning yourself a little bit. But once you do get signed, you're like, all right, we're all in. Let's get going.
- [65:07]
Bobby Bones
We talked some quarterback lingo in the last episode, maybe the episode before that, and I drowned a little bit. I'll be honest with you. I bit off a little more than I could chew. So this time, what I'm going to do is I'm going to toss a couple things out that I choose and you explain to me as rudimentary as possible. I'm talking. Explain like I'm five. Heck, three. Like I'm a three year. Like I'm a toddler. You've had many of those. You had five toddlers.
- [65:34]
Matt Castle
I've been.
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Bobby Bones
Yes.
- [65:35]
Matt Castle
Okay. Okay, sweetheart.
- [65:36]
Bobby Bones
Thank you. Yes.
- [65:37]
Matt Castle
Now let me explain.
- [65:38]
Bobby Bones
Yes.
- [65:38]
Matt Castle
Okay.
- [65:38]
Bobby Bones
Let's. Let's talk coverages. Okay?
- [65:41]
Matt Castle
Coverages. Got it.
- [65:42]
Bobby Bones
Cover three.
- [65:43]
Matt Castle
Okay. Cover three is four. Linebackers underneath and three people deep. When I say that, it means two corners on the outside and a middle of the field safety. It's a true zone defense. And so when I say that I mean the four guys underneath, they're responsible for the flat curl, hook area. So they have these zones that they sit in. The corners are responsible for their third of the field and in that middle of the field. Safety. He's there playing middle of the field, but he can go with the range to where he thinks the ball is going to go. But he's deep middle trying to make sure they don't throw the post over the top or do something like that. And so he's got the deep middle of the field. So you they're taught don't let anybody get behind you. Corners don't have help really, so they've got to stay on top of that. That wide receiver on the outside, the safety has free range. Especially guys you always hear about it like the Ed Reeds of the world that he'd make you think you're throwing over here. You're talking about looking him one way to throw somewhere else and then he'd just intercept the ball because he had incredible range. But that's what it is. Zone Defense 4 under 3 over the top.
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Albertsons/Safeway Representative
Network hey it's Ryan Seacrest for Albertsons and Safeway. It's stock up savings time now through March 25th. Spring in for store wide deals and earn four times the points. Look for in store tags to earn on eligible beverage items from San Pellegrino and Pepsi or breakfast favorites like Chobani Greek yogurt, Dan and Oikyo's yogurt and Pete's Coffee plus many more. Then clip the offer in our app for automatic event long savings. Stack up those rewards to save even more restrictions apply. Visit Albertsons or Safeway.com for more details.
- [70:28]
Bobby Bones
All right, let's go. We'll take it up one do you.
- [70:31]
Matt Castle
Think my three year old could understand that?
- [70:33]
Bobby Bones
I do. And and just for the record, some of these I know the answer to. I'm just playing dumb guy. So yeah, you play ball dog. Yeah, but I still need. I am hopefully learning maybe something a little. Just a little trickle, a little trickle new. And for those that are listening that don't know, I don't want them to feel like I'm here acting like yeah, I can't believe you guys don't know we're all in this together. So we're kind of explaining it. And let's go. Cover four. So the difference in cover three and.
- [71:00]
Matt Castle
Cover four is what you got two high safeties now. So you've got three underneath linebacker presence. Right. They're. They're hook. Hook, I think curl flat. I should say that they are going to go to. But then corners are responsible for a fourth of their field and then the safeties are responsible for. So it's literally quarter up the field into fours, each deep part of the component. The corners and the safeties are responsible for a quarter. Now that, that can change based on formation in terms of where the safety help goes. But for the most basic aspect of COVID four, we call it quarters.
- [71:41]
Bobby Bones
What about a cover six?
- [71:44]
Matt Castle
Cover six. So cover six is similar. So it's quarter, quarter, half is what we like to call it. And there's different variations based on the system that you're in. Like some people will use different numbers for different types of coverage. But Cover 6 historically has been quarter, quarter, half, meaning you're gonna roll. Say you've got a three by one, which means three wide receivers over here. Your X wide receiver, who's usually your number one wide receiver, isolated on the weak side. Well, cover sixes, you're playing quarters to one side. So it's quarter, quarter and then half, meaning you've got safety help over that other corner will roll up on that number one wide receiver. So you're basically getting a two on one on one side of the field.
- [72:27]
Bobby Bones
Is that two on one receiver in the half of the field since he's by himself half of the field?
- [72:33]
Matt Castle
Yes. So he's. He's going to try to get rerouted and play it for the most part like a cover too. So you've got help over the top. So he can't just run by you and run the goes or the comebacks. So the corner is going to be responsible for jamming him up, trying to force an outside release, not letting him get inside. And then at some point he'll fall off, off and look for anything else coming his direction. But the safety at some point will take him over as he gets into his section of the field.
- [73:01]
Bobby Bones
And the final covers question will be when they go into cover zero.
- [73:06]
Matt Castle
Oh, yeah, Love it. Bring it. Cover zero is a max pressure and it usually involves multiple safeties. Now the one of the safeties usually will have the tight end. You'll have one of the linebackers out there on the slot. I say linebacker. It's really considered a nickel but everybody's on an island. The corners are a one on one, the safety is one on one, the nickel's 101. But everybody else is pressuring, so they're going to try to force you to either throw hot or side adjust. If you go to a seven man prediction, it might buy you a little bit more time, but they're always bringing at least one or two more than you actually can pick up. So you have to have a game plan to get rid of the ball or to go some kind of max protection and get the ball down the field.
- [73:52]
Bobby Bones
And if you're on defense and you're running a cover zero like, you must get to the quarterback, right? You have to sell out to get to the quarterback. Because everybody's on an island, right?
- [74:01]
Matt Castle
Oh, everybody's on an island. And the other part about COVID 0 or Blitz 0 is every one of those guys play with inside leverage because if you get beat across your, there's nobody in the middle of the field because safeties are gone, linebackers are gone. So as if. If you ever get beat across your face in cover zero, it's a home run. Now the other thing is, so they'll sit inside so you know that. So out routes or outbreaking routes, stuff like that is probably your best bet in getting the ball downfield, corner route, something like that. Or if you just have a stud on the outside, throw the go route. So that's where the matchups are. But any. And when you get a Cover 0 and you can block it up, you're going to your best matchup period because you want to go to your dude that you think can make a play. And if he breaks one tackle, he's to the house. But if they don't get home, I mean, if they do get home, which they're planning on doing, that then it's a pain in the butt because you're rushed and guys aren't coming out of their breaks. And it's, it's works often.
- [74:58]
Bobby Bones
As a fan watching, I feel like coaches or quarterbacks or offensive coordinators are way too in love with these fades in the corner of the end zone. It seems like watching, they never work. What is the fascination with the freaking fade?
- [75:14]
Matt Castle
Well, down there it's amazing because when you get into the red zones, particularly the low red zone, the field shrinks, right? The windows are so much tighter. They talk about it all the time. For the quarterback, when you're throwing in the front of the end zone, you want to put it low so he can body it up because you throw it high at the front. That's when balls get tipped and things happen. And then you want to throw it high in the back of the end zone because you're giving your guy an opportunity to go up and high point a ball. And when I say that, I mean like an in cut on the baseline or on the inline to the the end zone. You're trying to throw it high so that you're missing all the underneath traffic because of the condensed windows. Trying to throw it high so he can go up and high point that ball. But the fade has always been something. If you get one on one, they're bringing blitz zero or you trust in a guy. It's all about the release pattern to me and the wide receiver. If he can go up, up, and he's got to be patient because you sometimes you'll see those guys take one step up and go to the corner of the end zone. Just like you're saying, well, that corner just is able to react. You didn't give him anything different. So that one, now he just runs you to the side of the end zone, plays hands, and it's an unsuccessful play. The best wide receivers that you've seen run the fade route is a guy like Larry Fitzgerald. He'll go up and he'll give you three. One, two, three, start. So he can go inside, he can go outside. But what that does is it straightens up that defensive back. And now you give yourself space and time to go throw that ball.
- [76:41]
Bobby Bones
You would hear when talking about the difference in high school to college, to the NFL in high school, throw it when he's wide open. In college, right when he starts to get open, throw it. And the pros, sometimes you got to throw him open when he's not open at all. Would you say that's an accurate description of what you have to learn as a quarterback through those levels?
- [77:03]
Matt Castle
I think that's 100% accurate. Anticipation is key, particularly in the NFL. And that's what we talk about all the time in our meetings, is I've told you this, the depth when you're, when you're supposed to be there, how you're getting there. You have to understand that because there's a lot of time when somebody's breathing down your neck, you're throwing it, and the trust has to be that you're at the right depth, that you're throwing it to the spot where you're anticipating him coming and you're blindly throwing this thing because he's not even out of his break. But you're throwing it with the anticipation that he's going to be there. And that's when big plays happen a lot of times, because it's a catch and run through the zone and out the back door. But you have to have anticipation of the league because the guys on the defensive side of the ball, particularly at the cornerback position, they're such freak athletes that if you're a split second late, you take that extra hitch, you hesitate at all. Now, that gives him the ability to recover. Even if your guy comes out of the break at a better angle than he did, he's going to catch up and be able to either get hands on it or potentially intercept it.
- [78:03]
Bobby Bones
A lot of trust. Could you throw balls if you had to blindfolded in practice and. And pretty much know where to throw since everything is on timing?
- [78:13]
Matt Castle
I don't know if I accurately could say that I could put a blindfold on and just throw the ball. I mean, I would. I could probably get it around the vicinity. I don't know how accurate I'd be with a blindfold on, but in general direction I'd be, I'd be around the guy for sure.
- [78:30]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, I'd use a blindfold. For me, I'd be practicing with the blind.
- [78:33]
Matt Castle
Yeah.
- [78:34]
Bobby Bones
Mr. Miyagi Dodgeball @ the end. I'd be so dialed in. Blindfold me up then.
- [78:40]
Matt Castle
Fourth quarter, we should come up with that.
- [78:41]
Lowe's Representative
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- [78:42]
Bobby Bones
No, I don't practice enough. I don't get to practice enough. I'm saying, like you a guy, practice, you know, all the time. That's gonna be it for this episode of Lots to say. Go subscribe to the podcast, please. If you don't mind, whatever feed you're hearing this on, if it's on the Bob Bonjo feed, if it's on one of the NFL feeds and you enjoy the show, if you don't mind, search for Lots to say subscribe. We would love it. It would help us. If you don't mind, give us a review, put a comment up. We don't have many of those. We're still trying to make friends here in the podcast world, so if you don't mind, please do that as well. Kick off Kevin back. Which, by the way, Kevin got married back. Yeah.
- [79:15]
Matt Castle
Congrats, Kev. Thanks, man. How was that honeymoon? Oh, it was beautiful. Beautiful. I think maybe a day, a little bit too long. Took me a while to get back into it, but it was beautiful.
- [79:24]
Bobby Bones
You know, when I said I felt, I was like, I've sometimes I'm on Vacation or honeymoon? I'm like, this is a little too long. Everybody's like, what?
- [79:30]
Matt Castle
Yeah.
- [79:30]
Bobby Bones
And I'm like, you know, I can only have so much fun before I start to feel guilty.
- [79:33]
Ryan Seacrest
Yeah.
- [79:33]
Matt Castle
My wife is pregnant. Seven months pregnant. So it's like, you can only do so much. Oh, that's. You know, I can sit by the pool for so long, but she loves it. And I'm like, all right, this is cool.
- [79:43]
Bobby Bones
Kick off, Kevin. Congratulations. Reed, who's about to get married. Coming up. How many months? Oh, only two months.
- [79:52]
Matt Castle
Oh, yeah, you're getting ready. Cold Pete.
- [79:55]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Now he's counting again. Three months. Three months. Big moves. Castle's yelling, cold feet. Read Yarberry, head of all of our videos. That's Matt Castle. I'm Bobby Bones. We've had lots to say, and we'll see you guys next week. Bye, everybody. Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is a production of the NFL and iHeart podcasts. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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