Lots to Say: Fmr NFL HC/Interim Stanford HC Frank Reich

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Bobby Bones Show – "Lots to Say: Fmr NFL HC/Interim Stanford HC Frank Reich"

Release Date: May 28, 2025

In this engaging episode of "The Bobby Bones Show", hosts Bobby Bones and Matt Castle delve deep into the world of NFL and college football with a special guest, Frank Reich—the former NFL head coach known for orchestrating the Buffalo Bills' historic comeback and currently serving as the Interim Head Coach for Stanford University's football program. The conversation is rich with insights into coaching philosophies, the transition from professional to collegiate football, and personal anecdotes that shed light on Frank Reich’s illustrious career.

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1. Opening Banter and Setting the Stage ([00:00] - [03:51])

The show kicks off with Bobby and Matt engaging in their trademark light-hearted banter, discussing eclectic song choices and their experiences with theater during their school days. This segment sets a relaxed and friendly tone for the episode.

Notable Quote:

• Bobby Bones [02:35]: "But you're an A plus performer."

2. Fan Court: NFL Fandom and Team Dynamics ([03:51] - [18:44])

Bobby and Matt introduce the "Fan Court" segment, where they debate various NFL fan behaviors and etiquettes, such as booing one's own team during losses and wearing jerseys of rival teams. This segment highlights the passionate and sometimes contentious nature of NFL fandom.

Key Discussions:

• Booing Own Team: They explore whether it's acceptable for fans to boo their own team when they're losing, agreeing that it’s permissible under certain circumstances.

  Notable Quote:

  • Matt Castle [04:05]: "There are certain fan bases that'll get after you from the jump."

• Wearing Rival Jerseys: The hosts discuss the etiquette of wearing jerseys from opposing teams, emphasizing respect and authenticity in fandom.

  Notable Quote:

  • Bobby Bones [07:56]: "If that Falcons jersey that you're wearing is currently a player on the team, that's fair."

• Leaving Games Early: They debate the acceptability of leaving a game early to beat traffic, especially if the outcome seems inevitable.

  Notable Quote:

  • Bobby Bones [09:08]: "I think it's okay to leave to beat traffic if A, your team is getting crushed."

• Having Multiple Favorite Teams: The conversation touches on the complexities of supporting multiple teams, ultimately concluding that true dedication requires selecting one primary team.

  Notable Quote:

  • Matt Castle [10:34]: "If you don't have one, you just have two teams."

3. Introducing Frank Reich ([18:44] - [20:44])

As the discussion wraps up the "Fan Court" segment, Bobby and Matt transition to introducing their special guest, Frank Reich. They highlight his remarkable career, including his role in the Buffalo Bills' largest comeback in NFL history and his recent appointment as Stanford’s interim head coach.

Notable Quote:

• Bobby Bones [18:50]: "Led the Buffalo Bills to the largest comeback in NFL history during the 92, 93 playoffs..."

4. In-Depth Interview with Frank Reich ([20:44] - [41:16])

The core of the episode features an insightful interview with Frank Reich, covering his career trajectory, coaching philosophy, and his new role at Stanford.

a. Transition to Stanford ([22:37] - [26:40])

Frank discusses the factors that led him to accept the interim head coach position at Stanford, notably his close friendship with Andrew Luck and the unique opportunity Stanford presents.

Notable Quote:

• Frank Reich [22:51]: "It was really about two things. It was about Andrew Luck... and this seems like a really cool opportunity."

b. Coaching Philosophy and Staff ([26:40] - [28:20])

Frank elaborates on his approach to coaching at Stanford, emphasizing teamwork, adaptability, and fostering a positive environment despite the temporary nature of his role.

Notable Quote:

• Frank Reich [27:19]: "Everyone on the staff recognized that this is a crazy and unique situation. So let's embrace it."

c. Differences Between NFL and College Football ([32:35] - [35:16])

Frank highlights the distinctions between coaching in the NFL versus college football, particularly the differences in meeting times, player development, and game strategies.

Notable Quote:

• Frank Reich [34:11]: "In the NFL, you just meet with the players all day long... In college, the rules are such that you just don't have as much meeting time with the players."

d. Relationship with Andrew Luck ([35:16] - [37:19])

The interview delves into Frank’s personal and professional relationship with Andrew Luck, shedding light on their mutual respect and collaboration.

Notable Quote:

• Frank Reich [35:30]: "Andrew was our starting quarterback. We were friends."

e. Mentorship and Player Development ([31:28] - [32:35])

Frank expresses his excitement about mentoring quarterbacks at Stanford, leveraging his extensive experience from the NFL to guide young talent aspiring to enter professional football.

Notable Quote:

• Frank Reich [31:28]: "I'm excited about the group. We have an open competition at the position, but excited about the room."

f. Academic Standards and Recruiting Challenges ([32:35] - [33:52])

The conversation touches on the rigorous academic standards at Stanford, discussing how it narrows the pool of potential recruits and emphasizes the importance of balancing athletics with academics.

Notable Quote:

• Frank Reich [33:52]: "There’s a smaller pool of student-athletes that we can recruit. But that’s one of the things that makes this a pretty cool place."

g. Super Bowl Victory with the Eagles ([37:19] - [39:44])

Frank recounts his proudest coaching moment—the Philadelphia Eagles' Super Bowl win—highlighting the teamwork and resilience that led to their unprecedented success.

Notable Quote:

• Frank Reich [38:00]: "In our playoff run, our third down conversion percentage was over 70%... Nick was lights out."

h. Personal Anecdotes and Fun Facts ([39:44] - [41:16])

The interview concludes with personal stories, including Frank’s role as an ordained minister and his experiences coaching Nick Foles, adding depth to his multifaceted personality.

Notable Quote:

• Frank Reich [35:30]: "I had the unique distinction of performing the wedding ceremony for him and his wife Nicole."

5. Post-Interview Banter and "Things That Are Lost on Me" Segment ([41:16] - [63:20])

After Frank Reich's interview, Bobby, Matt, and guest Mike D. engage in their regular humorous discussions, addressing topics like expensive bourbon gifts, colorblindness, dislike for peanut butter, and the agony of running long distances. This segment provides a light-hearted contrast to the in-depth interview with Frank Reich.

Notable Quotes:

• Bobby Bones [48:14]: "Things that are lost on me."
• Bobby Bones [59:58]: "I hate peanut butter so much."

6. Closing Remarks and Final Interactions ([63:20] - [66:58])

The hosts wrap up the episode with final thoughts, emphasizing support for Frank Reich and promoting listener engagement through social media interactions and giveaways.

Notable Quote:

• Bobby Bones [65:19]: "Please, wherever you're listening to this... spell Castle's last name right, I will pick one of those comments and send you a signed Matt Castle jersey."

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Conclusion:

This episode of "The Bobby Bones Show" offers listeners a blend of passionate NFL discussions, an exclusive and comprehensive interview with a prominent figure in American football, and the hosts' signature humor. Frank Reich's insights into coaching, his transition to Stanford, and reflections on his career provide valuable content for football enthusiasts. The episode successfully balances informative dialogue with entertaining segments, making it a must-listen for fans of the sport and the show.

Transcript

[Bobby Bones]

You're listening to an iHeart podcast, lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is a production of the NFL and iHeart podcast. We got lots to say.

[Matt Castle]

We got.

[Bobby Bones]

Lots to say we're glad you're here and we hope you stay Cuz we got lots to say yeah, we got lots to say and here's. In the last 30 minutes before the show started, Matt is saying, what's New pussycat? And sugar, sugar, how you get so fly.

[Matt Castle]

It's. It's beautiful.

[Bobby Bones]

Eclectic.

[Matt Castle]

It's so eclectic. I think it's cuz my kids are home now for summer and they're.

[Bobby Bones]

They're listening to Tom Jones or what?

[Matt Castle]

Well, that's kind of. That's kind of eclectic.

[Bobby Bones]

The kids listen. Tom Jones. No.

[Matt Castle]

All these different songs are coming to my head and I've. I've got so many different genres and then I don't know where the what's New Pussycat? Tom Jones came into. I actually, sometimes I thought it was weird.

[Bobby Bones]

Didn't you, Mike?

[Mike D]

Yeah, it is kind of weird.

[Bobby Bones]

I was like, tom Jones, huh?

[Matt Castle]

I'll wake up sometimes in the morning and go, what's new pussycat? Whoa, whoa, whoa. My wife's like, what are you singing that song for? It's so, so weird. So out there.

[Bobby Bones]

Did you ever sing?

[Matt Castle]

No. Hell, I've got the worst voice ever.

[Bobby Bones]

Did you think I was gonna continue asking something else in that question?

[Matt Castle]

Yeah. Did you ever sing?

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. Have you ever sang publicly or did you. In like sixth grade? Any sort of.

[Matt Castle]

Oh, yeah, I was Alad in like fourth grade, bro. I was talking about. And it was one of those with like the, the little sweater vest or whatever they had for. That was appropriate. But it looked like a Halloween costume with the little hat on. I mean, magic carpet ride. Oh, yeah, dude.

[Bobby Bones]

Magic carpet ride. That's Steppenwolf. There's no way. Why don't you come with me, little girl on a magic carpet hey, little mad castle that's the wrong show.

[Matt Castle]

Aladdin. They get on the carpet. Whatever. Yes, I can show you the world. Yeah, yeah. So I did. And it was a little bit nerve wracking. I mean, it was my first real theatrical deal. Public school didn't know what I was doing. But we did have a few good rehearsals and I felt pretty confident when I ran out there in that little Aladdin outfit.

[Bobby Bones]

I feel like Castle shows up to do Aladdin and starts and I got a. David, just change the lyrics.

[Matt Castle]

That's.

[Bobby Bones]

That's more like 70s. Like that's classic rock.

[Matt Castle]

Were you ever in theater?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did Grease.

[Matt Castle]

Oh, yeah? Who were you?

[Bobby Bones]

Danny Zuko? John Travolta?

[Matt Castle]

Of course you were.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Yes. Summer love and had me a blast. Is awesome. I did a Little Shop of Horrors.

[Matt Castle]

Ooh. Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. And you see that right there? You may not can see it behind the Cubs jacket down on the table. That is a number one album. Number one comedy music album. Billboard, dude.

[Matt Castle]

So you. You are.

[Bobby Bones]

That's my. That's my plaque.

[Matt Castle]

So you're in theater. We're talking about potential Broadway.

[Bobby Bones]

No, we're not. Broadway as in. In Nashville.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Where the bars are. That's the only bar.

[Matt Castle]

Oh, okay. You go down.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Mine was very much personality driven. I'm about a C plus singer.

[Matt Castle]

But you're an A plus performer.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm an A plus person. Oh, with A plus personality. The Double P. Yeah. So I enjoy singing for comedy purposes. And our whole. Our whole album down there, number one album, if I didn't say it. Raging Idiots is our. Our comedy duo is a comedy record.

[Matt Castle]

And you guys do rage, by the way, I've been to the show. It's.

[Bobby Bones]

We Rage so hard. We raise money for charity. That's how hard we rage.

[Matt Castle]

No, I mean, you're out there. It was a full two and a half hours of unbelievable entertainment, and you are the headliner. Raging, Raging with that red guitar. Just looking so good.

[Bobby Bones]

Thank you.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Sugar, sugar, how you get so fly. Okay, so here's what I have. We're going to call this fan court, and I've got 10 of these. We may have the same opinion. We may have different opinions, but we'll go first. Number one. Can you boo your own team when you're losing 100%?

[Matt Castle]

And they do all the time. Are you kidding me?

[Bobby Bones]

But what is it okay to. You're the. You get to be the judge and tell people yes or no. If you're talking to. Do you allow the home team, if you're the judge, to boo their own team when losing?

[Matt Castle]

How bad are we losing?

[Bobby Bones]

That is yes. That means your answer is yeah.

[Matt Castle]

That's the difference. I mean, in my politically correct statement, always when I played, if they ever asked if we got booed, it was always like, look, they pay their money. They can come out and do whatever. We are an entertainment source. Right? But when you're playing and you're in the second series of the game and it doesn't go well and you haven't got a first down yet and you're getting booed, and as you're coming off it. You off. I'm not going to lie. You're at home, you're, oh, the whole stadium. And there's a few that start early and they're, they want to be negative and it's just like, come on, are you serious right now? We're in the second series of the game. Now, not everybody's. Is that, like, intense about it in terms of the fan base, but there are certain fan bases that'll get after you from the jump.

[Bobby Bones]

Who booed the hardest home team of all the teams you played? It didn't have to be you that was getting booed, but what.

[Matt Castle]

Right. Kansas City. Kansas City. We had a few games stretched there where they, they could get after you and it would be. It would be early and often unless you had some success. Now, you could change the course of how they were reacting based on a good series here or there, but if you started the game slow and didn't get off to a good start, and if you were already struggling, they were on you quick. Now Eagles. Eagles will boo the hell out of you. There's Buffalo is booed. I was in New England. This was a shocker to me. We were undefeated. I'm not kidding. It was a season that we went undefeated during the rare season we're playing Detroit and it was halftime, and it was like a tied football game and we'd blown out every opponent that year. We're coming off the field at halftime and it was a tie ball game. They're booing. And I was like, we're undefeated. Like, we're playing the Detroit. We're going to figure out a way to come back and win the game, which we did. But at the same time, I couldn't believe that was the one. That was a shocker to me.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm okay with fans booing the home team because we have now defined the NFL as an entertainment product.

[Matt Castle]

It is. That's. That's what it is.

[Bobby Bones]

You boo at wrestling. You don't really boo at Greece, though. Like, if I sucked, no one really booed me.

[Matt Castle]

No, because you're there to see theater.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I guess so. But I'm okay with the booing at times. The booing, I won't say inspires a person, but you do get to, for example, Sirianni last year, first three, four. He was getting booed hard. He was. He was jawing with the fans, drawing.

[Matt Castle]

With the fans because they were.

[Bobby Bones]

They were going after him so hard. And so that makes that year even more memorable because I remember the booing and going, oh boy, is he even going to last? And then he wins the whole freaking thing.

[Matt Castle]

That's the crazy part about sports is from one week to the next, you could be the goat or the hero and, and they, or they'll hate you, right? They can completely hate you, but you come out and put together a great performance. Then all of a sudden they come back together and they respect you and it's the pride of the organization and you're the man. Just like Sirianni. I mean, the year before last, they're talking about firing them at the end of the season because they went on that skit at the end of the year and I was like, this guy just went to the super bowl the year before. It's just a crazy whole, whole industry in which we work in.

[Bobby Bones]

Next up, wearing the jersey of a team that's not playing the game you're at. And I'll go first. Unless you're in Europe. And you see this a lot at those games where it's like Jacksonville versus insert whatever team, right? And it's in London. And I don't mind if they're wearing every NFL jersey because they don't get the NFL that that often.

[Matt Castle]

They do. They just don't even know what's going on.

[Bobby Bones]

Right? They have every jersey on. They're just like, the NFL's here. Let's just find NFL jersey to wear. And God love them, that's great. But if you're at like Cubs and Cardinals and you show up in a Pirates jersey, or if you're at like Colts and Titans and you decide to show up in a Falcons jersey, you're just being a douchebag.

[Matt Castle]

Well, I'd say there's, there's one reason why I'd say you could accept it.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Matt Castle]

And that's is if that Falcons jersey that you're wearing is currently a player on the team, that's fair.

[Bobby Bones]

And that makes sense because there is a relation.

[Matt Castle]

He's a fan of that player.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, okay. And, and, but that's it. I co sign that. But it's like you don't have to prove your fandom that you're not a fan of either one of these teams.

[Matt Castle]

Right?

[Bobby Bones]

Because that's basically what you're saying.

[Matt Castle]

And don't be cheap. Just go get the new jersey if you really like that. If you like that player, just go get the new.

[Bobby Bones]

How about leaving the game early to beat traffic?

[Matt Castle]

Sorry, I've done it before. Like, I've taken the kids to a few games. I'm like, this game looks like it's over. I can beat the traffic, guys. Hey, they're probably going to take a knee here in a series. You're going to run up the clock. It's not entertaining. You're young. You're not going to remember this. Jump on. I mean, I'm not gonna lie. I took the boys to the national championship game, Ohio State, Notre Dame. This year, when Ohio State took that lead by what, 28 points. And it was into the third, I was like, this game is over. And I was question questioning, leaving around mid. Midway through the third. Then Notre Dame scored and we stayed for the rest of the game. But at the end of the day, if I can beat traffic, I'll go.

[Bobby Bones]

I think it's okay to leave to beat traffic if A, your team is getting crushed.

[Matt Castle]

True.

[Bobby Bones]

Or B, neither of those teams are really your team and it's not even really a game.

[Matt Castle]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

Again, there's a crushing involved and there's no relationship. If you're leaving and your team is winning and it's a like, stay.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Be there for them when they come back on the field. It's college, you know, they come sing the fight song. It's a like, stay there for them. But no, no. Sometimes I just want to leave. It's not about traffic if I'm. We're just getting. Just hornswoggled. I don't know what that word means, but that's what it feels like sometimes, being raised back.

[Matt Castle]

How many times have you been to a game where the team is getting crushed at a home game and it's early fourth quarter and they're just emptying out. That's a bad feeling. Basketball team, especially when you're watching your entire crowd leave, they've all given up. They're like, you suck today.

[Bobby Bones]

I never thought about that. So. Because I've never been in that position because I didn't play ball at the level you did. So you would see that.

[Matt Castle]

Oh, yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

See your own fans walking out.

[Matt Castle]

Be like, it's been a bad day at the office. My bad. Guys, we'll do better next time.

[Bobby Bones]

Come back having two favorite teams, and I'll go first. This. You don't have a favorite team. If you have two favorite teams, different.

[Matt Castle]

Sports, I'd say you could have different sports for sure.

[Bobby Bones]

But if you're an NFL fan, you're like, I'm a massive Vikings fan. And I'm a massive Broncos fan. They're my two favorite teams. Because here's this reason and here's that Reason. And if you have two, it's like quarterbacks. If you have two, you don't have one.

[Matt Castle]

I agree with that wholeheartedly. Yeah. If you don't ha. If you have two teams that you root for, then you don't have one.

[Bobby Bones]

There are two teams.

[Matt Castle]

And you just said that. Yeah, you just said that. You can like one, but you gotta love the other and you gotta rep them hard.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, there's. If you have a favorite team, it's gotta be your favorite team.

[Matt Castle]

Right?

[Bobby Bones]

Favorite means I have selected one to rise above the rest.

[Matt Castle]

And I'm going to follow you in the offseason. I'm going to see you sign. I'm committed to the cause.

[Bobby Bones]

How about switching teams? Because either your team sucks for a long period of time or you move cities, Europe.

[Matt Castle]

I'm all for that. If your team sucks for a long period of time. It is hard to kind of jump back on that bandwagon year in and year out when, like, there's no hope for the organization. We're not going anywhere. I want to be with a winner at some point and not just have to ride this wave of misery.

[Bobby Bones]

Ah, see, I lost all the respect I had for you. Yes.

[Matt Castle]

Good.

[Bobby Bones]

If you leave your team when times are bad, you don't deserve to have good times. And I say this as someone whose life has spent. I've spent my whole life loving teams that do not win.

[Matt Castle]

I was going to say you're an Arkansas fan, right?

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, we didn't have to go there first, but Sure.

[Matt Castle]

I mean, it's pretty evident.

[Bobby Bones]

It is, yeah. Like, we haven't won a national championship since 1964, before anybody in this room was even close to being born. In basketball. It's like our one championship, major sports, and we have it on everything, and it's like 94, and that's starting to be so far away. So it sucks. And our football team is not going to get any better anytime soon. I'm a massive Chicago Cubs fan. Until 2016, it was nothing, right? Nothing but being a loser. So I have had losing teams my whole life. So I've. I've stood with them. And it sucks. It just sucks. But I will never leave. I will never. I will never have another team.

[Matt Castle]

But it's kind of like the Patriots fans that I used to meet for the longest period of time, they were awful. And it was at the old stadium and they tell these war stories about going and sitting up in the bleachers that have no backs on it and getting there earlier. But they're dedicated to. And then all of a sudden, they come into that Brady era and just for 20 years, pure domination. And now they're back to a certain situation now. But to hear the people that are so loyal that, as you're saying, that will fight through all the bad years just for the hope.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Matt Castle]

Just you turn it around and then when it does happen, it's got to be pretty fulfilling if you think about it as a fan.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't know. It's never happened. Well, I guess The Cubs in 2016 happened.

[Matt Castle]

That happened.

[Bobby Bones]

That happened. That was awesome.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And, I mean, I told this story, but it was the. It was when my TV career had just started and the CMAs, I believe, were on CBS, and it was the first year that the CMAs had invited me to come and present an award, which is a big deal because it's a national award show. And it was also game seven of the World Series, and I said no to presenting at the CMAs and stayed home.

[Matt Castle]

Did you really?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Matt Castle]

That's dedication.

[Bobby Bones]

Watch the Cubs and Indians. We went to game two and lost at Wrigley and then came home. They were like, hey, we want you to present massive for my career, because I'd never been offered that before.

[Matt Castle]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

But I thought, what's more important? And I stayed home and watched game seven. And then it got rain. Delayed. Wow. Yeah. It was a tough decision. Except it wasn't. It hurt to make the decision, except it wasn't hard to make.

[Matt Castle]

Are you superstitious as a fan, watching the game? Like, you have to be in the same spot or things aren't going well, you got to move your spot or you got to drink with your left hand instead your right hand, whatever it might be. Because I know people, some of my friends, that if they're watching a game and they're intense, intensely into what's going on, if their team's struggling, they have to get up and move or move a chair or do something. They're super superstitious about that.

[Bobby Bones]

So I don't believe in superstition, but maybe it's true. So, yes. So I do it. I don't believe it affects anything, but just in case it does, I maintain if things are going well, I change if things are not going well.

[Matt Castle]

That's called superstition.

[Bobby Bones]

But I don't believe. No, no, I don't believe in it, but.

[Matt Castle]

Change your socks.

[Bobby Bones]

But just in case I do have it, because I've been wrong about many things before. So am I superstitious? No, but Do I do superstitious things? Absolutely. Just in case, I have a pair of shoes that I had made a few years ago and going into this past weekend when Arkansas softball was playing in the super regional, I only wear these shoes at specific times. They were 13 and 2. Winning percentage of over.800 when I wear these shoes. But I have some rules behind them. I can never wear them two games in a row. I have to announce when I'm wearing them. And I did. And I got on social media and said, I'm wearing the shoes. They were 13 and 2 and we had lost the first game. I didn't have the shoes on for the first game, so I wore them for the second game. We went 40 shut out. My rule is you can't wear them two games in a row. I didn't wear them.

[Matt Castle]

I cannot believe you didn't wear. Are you serious?

[Bobby Bones]

I didn't wear this.

[Matt Castle]

Break your trend.

[Bobby Bones]

I can't.

[Matt Castle]

They're 14 and 2. You're not going to roll the dice and see, hey, it's been a day off, a night off.

[Bobby Bones]

I can't.

[Matt Castle]

We're going to go ahead.

[Bobby Bones]

It's always been my rule. I can't do two in a row because what would stop me from doing three? Then eventually they're going to lose just because it's a number.

[Matt Castle]

But you're wearing them just. Just for that team.

[Bobby Bones]

But again, we're talking about superstitions. And I'm like, I'm not superstitious, but These shoes are 14 and 2. I did not wear them for game 3 that Arkansas lost and it was.

[Matt Castle]

The biggest game of the year.

[Bobby Bones]

But they didn't lose because of my shoes.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, that's the other thing that superstition sometimes gets you into, that you believe your shoes has any impact whatsoever on the game.

[Bobby Bones]

They're 14 and 2. What do you want to say? That's a pretty great winning.

[Matt Castle]

I'm pretty disappointed, though, listening coach.

[Bobby Bones]

I didn't wear them.

[Matt Castle]

We should make sure that he wears them next elimination game.

[Bobby Bones]

But I'm true to myself. I'm honest with myself. There's no wearing them two games.

[Matt Castle]

You have your principles.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Did you ever have anything lucky to wear?

[Matt Castle]

No. I was never one of those guys that wore anything specifically or put a saying on the wristband or had to do my eye black a certain way. I just kind of was old school. Throw on the socks, throw on the pants, put my jersey on, let's roll.

[Bobby Bones]

What about a specific regimen?

[Matt Castle]

Regimen?

[Frank Reich]

Yes.

[Matt Castle]

I'd go my Warm up routine was pretty specific in terms of getting out on the field early, going through my stretch work, some, some certain type of red zone throws that I wanted to throw at the wide receivers, then from there go in, do a little bit more stretch or get stretched by one of the trainers and then get taped right after that and then go start my process of getting totally locked in.

[Bobby Bones]

But what if you didn't go in that exact order that you'd always gone?

[Matt Castle]

Didn't really bug me that much.

[Bobby Bones]

It didn't?

[Matt Castle]

No. It wasn't like, oh, man, I was.

[Bobby Bones]

Really hoping you'd walk into that one.

[Matt Castle]

But yeah, no, it didn't really bug me that much.

[Bobby Bones]

All right, last one here. How about this? Cheering for a division rival in the playoffs because, quote, they're representing your division.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah. I don't believe in that.

[Bobby Bones]

I kind of hate that in the NFL. Like, if I'm a Cowboys fan, I don't want the Eagles to win.

[Matt Castle]

Right. If they're in your division, you're. You're absolutely your biggest rival just because they represent your conference and do they.

[Bobby Bones]

Really represent the conference? It's different in college football because they do represent a conference, a legitimate conference, where there are decisions made based on the power of the conference years afterward.

[Matt Castle]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

I think in bowl games, I usually root for the SEC because I want that to positively impact my school. But it doesn't work like that in the NFL.

[Matt Castle]

No, we're all, we all represent the NFL.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. At the end of the day, you represent yourself.

[Matt Castle]

Every team wants to beat the other team and not see them move forward, even though they're from your same conference or wherever it might be.

[Bobby Bones]

I think I hate them worse because they're in my NFL division. 100 from the Cowboys. I hate the freaking Giants. I hate the Commanders and I hate the Eagles.

[Matt Castle]

Right now. There, There might be certain circumstances where you're cheering for a particular coach that was with you or a player that is a friend of yours. And I've done that before where you, you know, it's pretty tight in terms of the relationships that you have. So. So I might be cheering more for that guy to have success moving forward because he's has that opportunity. But overall, as an organization and a team, I'm not cheering for another organization team to go out and win.

[Bobby Bones]

Coming up next, Coach Frank Reich, who played for the Buffalo Bills, was the backup for all four of the super bowl losses.

[Matt Castle]

Isn't that wild?

[Bobby Bones]

Wild that they lost four in a row? Just, just in. Just period still.

[Matt Castle]

And four straight, straight Consecutively. Boom, boom, boom.

[Bobby Bones]

Also has the greatest comeback. Well, I guess second greatest comeback now in NFL history.

[Matt Castle]

Second greatest because Minnesota beat the Indianapolis Colts in that comeback. And was it 22 or something like.

[Bobby Bones]

That, like three years ago? Right.

[Matt Castle]

They were losing like, yeah, 33 to 3 or something. And I'm sitting there going, there's no way they can come back from this. And that was. That was wild.

[Bobby Bones]

He was a backup, though, for the Bills and for Jim Kelly and came back and beat the Oilers. I remember watching as a kid, I turned the game off, it was 31 points and happened to turn it back on because I was ready for the next game and saw the end. It wasn't like I'm. It wasn't like now you can get.

[Matt Castle]

An alert that that's one of those situations. It's a backup quarterback. You always think about going in in those big type moments. But that was. Was that the AFC championship?

[Bobby Bones]

Probably, probably.

[Matt Castle]

Or, or, or yeah, maybe it's a playoff game. Jim Kelly.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Matt Castle]

Franchise guy goes out, you're getting an opportunity and you go. And you look at the scoreboard and you go, oh, man, this is awesome. I get to come in and 31 points down, but then to go out and actually do it. What a legend.

[Bobby Bones]

What a legend. He. So he's the coach at Stanford this year. Andrew Luck asked him to come be the coach, but he's only going to coach there one year because they didn't want to hire anybody that with the limited amount of time they had, they feel like they felt like they couldn't get the right coach for that. So he called. Frank Reich said, will you coach the team for one year? Frank Reich said, yes, one year. We'll talk to him about that coming up next. We're going to talk now with head coach Frank Wright, head coach of the Stanford Cardinals. Stanford Cardinals.

[Matt Castle]

Stanford Cardinals. In our. But there's never trees. They got a tree. I never understood that.

[Bobby Bones]

But you're a California guy.

[Matt Castle]

I thought you would, you know, I.

[Bobby Bones]

Mean, walk me into it a little bit.

[Matt Castle]

If I, I still. I'm a California guy and still don't understand it. Yeah, their mascot is a tree.

[Bobby Bones]

But they're the Cardinals.

[Matt Castle]

But they're the Cardinals.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Led the Buffalo Bills to the largest comeback in NFL history during the 92, 93 playoffs, overcoming a 32 point deficit against the Oilers. Was the OC for the Eagles during their super bowl victory. Not this year, but the last time. Recently appointed as the interim head coach for Stanford University's football program for the 2025 season. Here he is, head coach Frank Wright. Hey, Coach. We really appreciate the time.

[Frank Reich]

Hey, I'm. It's my. My privilege, so thanks for having me on.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, Matt was saying a minute ago that he came and worked out for you in Detroit. After Detroit.

[Matt Castle]

Where was it after Detroit for the Colts, after Andrew had. He retired. And so I came in with a group. I think it's Brandon Weeden, Brock Osweiler, myself. Obviously, I didn't do enough in that film room to influence you to sign me, but at the same time, we sat. We sat in that meeting room together, and he was drilling me on some of the. There was a double mug look. What are you doing against this Look. And it was great. We got to sit there, talk ball. It was. It was a fun experience for me, but obviously they went a different direction.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Why didn't you pick him, Coach? Why didn't you pick Old Castle over here?

[Frank Reich]

Hey, that was the GM's decision, not the head coaches.

[Matt Castle]

There you go.

[Frank Reich]

No, I'm just kidding. Hey, no. Hey, in all seriousness, you know, Matt is one of those guys who, even though we never really crossed paths for any length of time here or there, but as a. As a fellow quarterback, a guy who really followed Matt's career. And then I coached, obviously, with Sirianni, and when I was coaching with Sirianni, he used to talk about Matt all the time and say, you know, how great. Not only of a player, but teammate in person. So I've always had a ton of respect for you, Matt.

[Matt Castle]

Thanks, Coach. I appreciate it. I mean, you've been on an incredible journey. You're in the NFL forever, and now you're making this jump to college football. Talk to me about what were some of the factors that were the decision to go back to college.

[Frank Reich]

It was really about two things. It was about Andrew luck and him asking me, you know, you know, just calling me up and saying, hey, I need help. And Andrew is a close friend. And, you know, but the second thing was this seems like a really cool opportunity. You know, I mean, I've never done anything like this. It's. It's a challenge. It's another mountain to climb. It's an experience to gain. And so, you know, those are really the two reasons, A, to help out my friend Andrew. And then B, this is Stanford, and this is going to be. There's unique student athletes, it's a unique university, and a unique alumni group. An environment, culture. And so I'm like, I've always heard that this place is very special, and I Have an opportunity to go experience. So let's go all in as advertised. So far it's been a blast.

[Bobby Bones]

I went and looked at your official title and it says Stanford University interim head coach. Now is that the plan to stay interim head coach?

[Frank Reich]

That's the plan. And you know, Andrew and I were both real clear about that at the beginning and um, so, you know, it just works. I mean, Andrew was in a unique situation where you know how to make a coaching change at a time that you don't really make one. And, and I was retired, you know, and I was content to move on, had 30 plus years of playing and coaching and felt like I, you know, it was a good run and was ready to move on. And then like I said, this was a one year thing. And you know, so when I talk to my wife of almost 40 years now, you know, she's traveled with me all over the place, guys. I mean, like, I've made her move so many times and you know, and it's just, that's important to me, you know, that's important to me. She sacrificed a lot. I want to be around her. I want to be around my family. So we just looked at this as, you know what, this is another one more year. Let's, let's go give it all we all have and go experience this and the family will come out here, they'll get to experience it and then, you know, we'll move on from there.

[Matt Castle]

When you look at college football in the landscape now and everything that's involved with the Portal and nil and did you know what you were signing up for and what that all encompassed?

[Frank Reich]

I did, Matt. And probably, that's probably one reason why I didn't want to. I wasn't necessarily looking to jump into college coaching, but Andrew made that easy in that he said, frank, all you got to do, it's like you're going to be an NFL coach because, because you're only here for one year. No one's expecting you to recruit because you're not recruiting kids that you would, you know, you'll be a part of a few things here and there in conversations, but Andrew was going, Andrew's the leader of the program. You know, this is what's different about it. Andrew as the gm, it's almost like he's not head coach, but as the gm, he's the face of the franchise. And there's no better face of the franchise than Andrew Luck for Stanford. And so he, he, he bleeds Stanford red. I mean, this guy, he is so passionate about this place. So he's, he's the foundation of it. It's his vision of what he wants. I'm just one piece that can come in and help him fulfill his vision. And I can give all my experience to the players. Right. They all want, you know, most of them want to be NFL players, so I can help there both tell them what I think it takes, but also when it's their turn to kind of go. And I'm talking to other people in the NFL, I can give evaluations of guys who I've gotten to know as a player. So, yeah, I just think Andrew's done a great job of taking all that off. Andrew said to me, hey, you don't have to recruit, you don't have to worry about the nil. I'll take care of all that. You just go coach football.

[Bobby Bones]

What about your staff? How does that work?

[Frank Reich]

Oh, man, it was crazy. I mean, like, there's no coach in the world who would say, hey, yo, hey, come in here. And you got to like, one of the greatest joys of being a head coach is to hire your own staff. And so to have a situation where, hey, Frank, I need you, by the way, you have to keep all the staff. It's, you know, because we start spring ball tomorrow more or less, so we don't have time to change the staff. And I was like, I said, okay, I said, well, tell me about him and give me your honest assessment. And Andrew went down one by one and he talked about every, every guy on his staff. And I was like, all right, that's our staff. Let's go. I'm excited about it. And again, unique challenge and opportunity. But I can tell you this, as I got here, it didn't take me long to feel really good about it, to know these are not only good coaches, these are good human beings. I think everybody on the staff recognized that this is a crazy and unique situation. So let's embrace it. That's really was my approach. Hey, guys, we all know that this is, this is unprecedented in a lot of ways. So let's embrace it. Let's, let's buy into each other and believe in each other and let's go for these kids, for the kids, for the kids sake, for the university's sake. And everybody, of course, is on board and we're having a lot of fun.

[Matt Castle]

Coach, you're also an offensive minded guy. That's what you're known for, your guru in that sense. So how much input are you going to have in the offense? And molding it to look like your type of offense.

[Frank Reich]

Yeah, well, that was. It was funny when Andrew called and because we were. It took me three or four days to make the decision, you know, talking to my wife. And then once I made the decision, you know, spring ball started two days later, so there was no real time to change the offense at that. And Andrew said, hey, we'll just kind of keep the playbook from what they've had and coaching staff knows it and so on and so forth. So that was kind of the original plan. But then you get in here and it's like, okay, we have to do a little bit. So we have tweaked some things and Matt, I actually think that'll be a little bit to our advantage, so especially early in the year because people will think we are going to keep some of the playbook that they've had, but there will be some changes. And, you know, I think we just have to play that to our advantage for the first three or four weeks of the season so that the defensive coordinators of the other team are there trying to figure, well, who is Stanford going to be? Offensively, we can't be 100% sure.

[Bobby Bones]

We were just talking, Matt and I, about when he was playing and going east coast to west coast and west coast to east coast and playing these games. And you know, you and Cal are like the only west coast teams. You're always traveling. Like that has got to be so difficult for the body, like to be out of rhythm like that. How do you guys combat that?

[Frank Reich]

Yeah, I mean, it is. It is more challenging, for sure. You know, it takes a lot of sports science and listen, as a head coach in the NFL for six years and being around, you know, top sports science guys. But of course, I was always in the east coast for most of my career. I coached in San Diego for three years, in Arizona for one year. So there is a little bit of a different philosophy going west to east than there is going east to west when you're going three time zones. You know, normally if you're going one or two time zones, you're not too worried about it, but when you're going three time zones, you better have a plan. So you got to have a plan. So we have a plan. I've talked with our sports science guys here. Our plan is well researched. You know, a lot of it has to do with circadian rhythm. You know, just getting the proper, you know, are you going to try to adjust your time schedule? Are you going to just try to stay On west coast time. You just have to develop a philosophy on it, understand why to what you're doing and because it can make a difference. And, you know, our plan is to make that, you know, to use that to our advantage. There is a challenge to it, but if we do it the right way, you know, you mentally just approach it like, no, let's find a way to make this to our advantage. So that's what we're doing.

[Matt Castle]

Coach, you, you coach some great players, obviously. Andrew Luck being one of them. Philip Rivers, another one. When you look at your team right now, how much pride do you take in the mentorship of the quarterback position? And what is the outlook for Stanford this year at the quarterback position?

[Frank Reich]

Really excited, as you said. You know, I've had the blessing of being around some amazing quarterbacks and I've learned so much from those guys, you know, like being in the meeting room with guys like you, Matt, you know, and other quarterbacks, whether they were Peyton Manning or, or, you know, it could be any of the guys, right? Any of the guys. Or you take a guy like Nick Foles who was, you know, had tremendous dramatic swings in his career where he's an All Pro and then he's a backup, then he's the super bowl mvp, you know, then he's back, you know, so there's just, as it's a fun environment and I've learned so much from all the quarterbacks that I've been with. So as I bring that to the, to the team here and to the quarterback room here, I'm excited about the group. We have, we do have two. We did lose one player in the portal, and we picked up two guys in the portal, you know, so as of right now, you know, we'll be going into this training camp really, with an open competition at the, at the position, but excited about the room.

[Bobby Bones]

Coach, one of my friends coaches Vanderbilt football Clarkley, and he talks about how rigorous the academic standards are at Vanderbilt to also play football. Stanford feels similar, except more accomplished in the football side of things. But you have to recruit a certain type of kid to go to school there, right?

[Frank Reich]

Oh, yeah. No. And I found out really quick that they're real serious about that. There was, you know, there was one, one guy we were looking at and, you know, that I thought his tape looked pretty good. And so I'm asking the guys, I said, hey, you know, what about this guy? And they did a quick study of his grades and his grades were good. Like, you know, and I'm not going to go into the exact details of this conversation. But they weren't my. Almost all standards. These, these grades were good grades, good gpa, but they were not good enough for Stanford. And the guy was a good player. And, and so I just asked the question, and I asked the question something to the degree of, well, these aren't solid grades, right? Yeah. I mean, there's nothing we can do. No, there's nothing. They're not good enough. Those grades aren't good enough. And so it is a smaller pool of student athlete that we can recruit. But that's, I think, one of the things that makes this a pretty cool place.

[Matt Castle]

Coach, when you're going into college football, you always hear people talk about there's such a difference from the NFL game to the college game, what they're running and how they operate, the line of scrimmage and all those different factors. Do you see that pretty immediately when you turn on the film and you start watching how, how the defensive play and also how the offensive play?

[Frank Reich]

I do. And I think the biggest difference is, you know, in the NFL, you just meet with the players all day long. I mean, you know, there is no, I mean, there's a time limit, but it doesn't really come into play. And so you can exhaust every meeting. You can exhaust every detail and scheme and adjustment that you want to make. And in college, the rules are such that, you know, you just don't have as much meeting time with the players. So you have to keep it more simple. It's still sophisticated, it's still at a high level, but it's not the elite level of the NFL. I mean, in the NFL, it's the best of the best. And so if you don't know how to, as you know, Matt, if you don't know how to win the game within the game and every little nuance and change up and split and formation adjustment to try to get somebody off balance a little bit and to get some kind of tell or clue for quarterback and to be able to kind of work that all out. There's just not. You're just not able to do that at the same level at. In college.

[Bobby Bones]

Coach, I'm curious about you and Andrew Luck's relationship because it's a bit unorthodox. What we're seeing here, a good. It has to be a good friend to call and ask, hey, coach, will you come and do this for me? What is you guys friendship? What is your relationship rooted in?

[Frank Reich]

Well, you know, Andrew, two things, I think. One is, you know, Andrew was coming off Obviously, a very difficult couple years with an injury, with the injuries that he had, was coming to the end of his career and about to make a monumental life and career decision. And I just happened to be the guy in the room who was with him to help walk through that decision. And so at the same time, he was our starting quarterback. We were friends. And so when he. When he decided to retire, you know, it was a surprise to the world, but it was not a surprise to me. We had been. He had been talking to me about it for months, and. And, you know, we were just process. He was processing through it. And so after that eight, after the 18th season, I think the other thing that drew us close together was, you know, he had a really good year in 18. When we played together, when we worked together, you know, we started out the year one and five, it looked like it was not going to go well. And then we went on a run where we won nine or 10 games, ended up and then won a playoff game. And, you know, I think we were one of the best teams in the. In the league by the time the season ended. And he had a phenomenal year. And, you know, he would say, you know, maybe played his best year of football. I think there was. He's had several really good years, but certainly in a lot of respects, one of his better years. So I think that kind of drew us closer together, the career life decision. And I had the unique distinction of I was able to perform the wedding ceremony for he and his wife Nicole. And, you know, I'm an ordained minister, so they asked me to perform their wedding ceremony. So I had. That was a pretty cool opportunity to do that as well.

[Matt Castle]

That's unbelievable. I didn't even know that. So you're an ordained minister. So I know when my kids finally grow up, who I'm calling first, because you seem like you're great at it, it's going to be awesome.

[Frank Reich]

I appreciate that.

[Matt Castle]

When. When you go back to the Philadelphia Eagles and you mentioned Nick Foles, and I thought that was such a remarkable season. You're the offensive coordinator. Was that one of the most fulfilling seasons that you had as a coach, considering what was at stake? You lose Carson Wentz late in the year or in the middle of the year, and now you have to go on a run, and you guys go accomplish what nobody thought you could do, which is go out. Well, you guys probably thought you could, but a lot of people on the outside looking in said no. But from a coaching standpoint, you get to have Nick Foles Come in and you get to go prove something with him.

[Frank Reich]

Yeah, it was amazing. Yeah. Like you said, Matt, it was incredibly fulfilling. And for me personally, after playing or coaching in five Super Bowls and losing the game, it was really fun to go to a Super bowl the sixth time and win. And such an incredible experience the whole year, the game itself and afterwards with my family who had kind of been there, you know, my wife especially, who had been there with me through all those losses of Super Bowls. So that was special. But that Eagles team was really unique. The character of the team was so high. Carson Wentz, you know, in his second year, literally, I mean, was having the best year. It was having an MVP season as playing as good as. As well as a quarterback could play. And then what Nick Foles did when he came in was just something that. I don't know, it's just hard to even put into words what he did, how well the team played. Matt, you'll appreciate this, I think. And, you know, you guys can look up the stat if anybody's a stat nut and wants to see it. But like, in our playoff run, our third down conversion percentage, I think, was over 70% for. For the accumulation of three playoff games. I mean, it was. It was pretty crazy. And that was. That was Nick. And then I think the other key to that season was the offensive line. You know, we ran the ball well, and. But then in the playoffs, when we needed to throw it and throw it big, Nick was lights out.

[Bobby Bones]

Final question, Coach. And it does have to do with the Eagles. Your dad was drafted by the Eagles. 1. Were you a big Eagles fan and even a big Penn State fan because your dad played there too. Like, did you grow up with those being your teams? And then second of all, when you're back coaching and Matt asked the question, was it even a little more special because of the relationship you had with the brand, with the team?

[Frank Reich]

Yeah, I mean, I grew up. I grew up, you know, really an hour and 20 minutes from Philadelphia. So, you know, not that the Eagles were my team growing up, because they. They weren't actually. The Steelers were my team. My mom was from Pittsburgh, and so we spent a lot of time in the summers. We spent a lot of time in Pittsburgh. And the Steelers, of course, back in the 70s were super good team. And, you know, so I was a little bit more of a Steelers fan, but because my dad was drafted by the Eagles and the proximity to Philadelphia and everyone in our community, we were, you know, I was an Eagles fan, even though I was primarily a Steeler fan and being able to come back and coach there and you know, have high school friends, high school teachers, be able to come to games, you know, drive to games. It ended up making that year special in a lot of ways.

[Bobby Bones]

Coach, we really appreciate the time. We're rooting for you guys this year. And what do you guys say? What do you say at Stanford? What's the saying? Like be Stanford, Go true. Like what do you say when you get off your interview?

[Frank Reich]

Go hard. Yeah, go hard.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. Yeah, go card. And I guess, I don't know.

[Matt Castle]

They're simple. Yeah, they're simple.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. All right, coach, thanks for the time. We really appreciate it. Good luck this year.

[Frank Reich]

Thank you guys.

[Matt Castle]

Thanks, coach.

[Frank Reich]

Appreciate it.

[Bobby Bones]

All right, good to talk to coach. So tell me the story though, in depth. So you go up and you work out for him. Like what's happening there?

[Matt Castle]

Right? So they, they had finally come to the decision that Andrew Luck was not going to play that year. He's retiring, which was a shock to everybody on the outside. Obviously it wasn't a shock to him, but. So they're looking for a quarterback to come in. They had Jacoby Berset was there still on staff. He was their second string the year before. But they're looking to bring in another backup quarterback. So I went up there and there was three guys there. It was myself, Brandon Whedon and Osweiler. And so you go in and you, you do a full physical.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you show up at the same time with those guys?

[Matt Castle]

All at the same time. So you get in there, what's up, bro? What's up? You know, you're all there together. You know these guys too. I've known them. You know, when you play in this little fraternity of people, you know them, your friends. But now you're going to compete against them in a setting that, hey, this is a one day tryout, bro. I'm trying to beat you out. You're trying to do the same. So you get in there and I was just super thankful they didn't make us like run a 30 yard or 40 yard dash. I was like, I'm not prepared for that. So they go and they do your weight, body fat, composition, all the different things that you do to make sure that you're healthy. Then you go out in the field and they put you through a pretty rigorous throwing session, right? You're throwing comebacks in cuts, they have some movement. The coaches are out, all out there, kind of stand there with their arms crossed. Some of them are making notes and you're like, I wonder how that went.

[Bobby Bones]

I thought, I thought it came off right down there.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, I don't know, I was a little high, but, you know, I haven't been throwing much recently, guys. And then from there you go in and meet with the coaching staff. And like he said before, I had a relationship with Nick Sirianni, so he was probably a big part of me coming up to work out with Indianapolis. But I got to sit down with coach and in the head coach's office and ran through film, talked about general philosophy, blitz, pickup, situational. And so he's just picking your brain. What do you know? You know, how can you help? And I thought it went really well. At the end of the day, like I said, they had a relationship or the GM did with Brian Hoyer, who they traded for and brought him in. So I never got an opportunity to play for him. But everything that I had heard about him as a person held up true. When you went and meet met the man and had a genuine discussion with him.

[Bobby Bones]

We went a couple years ago to Panthers camp when he was the head coach of the Panthers. That was not a good situation all the way around, right?

[Matt Castle]

It was, yes, it was sloppy.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, it's very sloppy. It's a good word for it. So we go to camp and it's like day two of camp and I'm holding a ball during the interview and I can tell. And coach is a big guy, right? He's an NFL quarterback, good athlete, big guy. And he's like, why are you holding that ball? I said, well, I'm not gonna fumble at the whole interview. And he took that as a challenge and he goes, no way. He takes his hand and swings to knock the ball out of my arm mid interview and hits me in the nose.

[Matt Castle]

Like, come on. Is this a true statement?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, it's on the Internet and like clips me in the nose and goes to the ball and I'm like, oh, like my eyes are all watery. But I held onto the ball.

[Matt Castle]

What did he. What was his reaction after he realized that he just cold cocked you in the nose?

[Bobby Bones]

Nothing.

[Matt Castle]

He was. That's ball, bro.

[Bobby Bones]

That's basically it. That's ball, bro.

[Matt Castle]

You challenged me, you said I couldn't get this ball out. And now I'm going to show you what it's like.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, he thought I had two heads, though, because the inter. I really like him and I don't always interview traditionally and I think at the end he really was enjoying it. But at first I go in and my style's definitely a bit different. And he was looking at like, are you even real? And then I was holding the ball and he was like, I'm about to see how whack. Right in the nose. Held on to the ball though.

[Matt Castle]

It's, it's funny you said that because it takes me back to college because when we were in college, Pete Carroll had this philosophy, philosophy of all about the ball. So the defense takes it away, the offense holds on to it. If a running back or any skill set position player fumbled a ball during practice, they had to carry a ball all day long around campus to their, to their classes, to the meeting room. And at any point, if a teammate saw him and could sneak up and strip it and take it back, they would have to run. So I mean, you talk about some funny situations when you're in a geography class filled with 100, 100 kids and you hear like a full rumbling in the back. It's cuz somebody knocked the ball out of one of the running back's hands and they're all going to get it. It was amazing.

[Bobby Bones]

That's awesome.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, it, it was a. I thought it was one of the best. All time, all time. Just philosophies of how to take care of the football.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. You had to. Your subconscious had to be holding onto the ball.

[Matt Castle]

Oh, if it's all day long, I.

[Bobby Bones]

Entirely always are holding onto it. Even if it's not like a conscious thought to always hold it tight. It's gotta become so second nature. Oh, that you're holding it against your body. That's an interesting situation. Coach as. Because he's there for one year.

[Matt Castle]

I know, I didn't realize that. I just thought he had the title interim head coach, thinking that that was probably gonna extend based on his success. He legit is there for one year.

[Bobby Bones]

Same staff. Same.

[Matt Castle]

And that staff, which nobody that he.

[Bobby Bones]

Brought in and they're lame duck coaches for the most part because whomever they hire is going to have his own staff like for that team. And I'm assuming they won three games last year, right?

[Matt Castle]

Three and nine.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm assuming they're going to win more than three games this year. But that is, that is coming from a place of total instability in that all the coaches, they all know they're gone. Coach Wright ain't going to be there next year.

[Matt Castle]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

Because he has said it's a one.

[Matt Castle]

Year deal and he was dead serious about it.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes.

[Matt Castle]

No. He knows I'm just coming in here playing head coach for a year.

[Bobby Bones]

But until you can Find somebody, you.

[Matt Castle]

Can find somebody else.

[Bobby Bones]

And then even to look for a coach, like, are they looking for a coach during the season as he's coaching?

[Matt Castle]

I think that's got to be 100% what Andrew Luck is thinking. It's going to buy him time. He has somebody in there that he trusts, understands philosophically what he's trying to get done. At the same time, somebody that will hopefully mold and mentor the young coaches on the staff, maybe keep some of those guys along. But it's going to give Andrew the ability to go out and do interviews throughout the year and kind of really hone in on who they want to bring in to be the next full time head coach at Stanford.

[Bobby Bones]

Did you know Andrew at all?

[Matt Castle]

Just through competition and I met him a few times at a few different golf tournaments and stuff. Great dude. I mean, a guy that has a great presence about him. Really smart, intellectual and just a stud on the football field. Tough as nails. Didn't always have the best offensive line, but a guy that would come and compete and you knew you're going to get his best every single day.

[Bobby Bones]

Thanks again to coach and we'll take a break and come right back. So here's my big list for the week. It's things that are lost on me.

[Matt Castle]

Things that are lost on me.

[Bobby Bones]

And is this complicated? It is not and I'm going to tell you why. So I got a really nice gift the other day and it was a bottle of handcrafted limited edition. And I say hand because they wrote on it, like what bottle it was. Oh yeah, like really expensive bourbon.

[Matt Castle]

The person really knew you.

[Bobby Bones]

Exactly. For those that are new or maybe you just don't know. I've never had a drink of alcohol in my life and so I would love to drink alcohol. I just feel like it would do really bad things to me. So I have this bottle of very expensive bourbon that I can do nothing with. So the gift of expensive alcohol is completely lost on me.

[Matt Castle]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

So that's where the inspiration for this list came from. Completely lost. I do have a wine cellar or like a wine. I don't even know what it's called.

[Matt Castle]

Wine fridge, wine cellar.

[Bobby Bones]

It's something in the middle.

[Matt Castle]

Cellar's. If it's a room, it's a room. I'd refer to it more as a.

[Bobby Bones]

But it's not in the cellar though.

[Matt Castle]

But it is big enough to take up a whole room?

[Bobby Bones]

No, but I can walk in. I would say it's the size of three showers.

[Matt Castle]

It's a pretty big room.

[Bobby Bones]

I can walk in and put my arms out and still not touch it. I don't. We don't. We don't only drink. My wife drinks wine sometimes, but I don't drink anything. It was just when we built the house, they were like, and this is where we're gonna put the wine. And it's freezing cold. Sure. I've never even been in that thing until the other day when I put the bourbon and then I learned you're not supposed to put bourbon in a wine fridge.

[Matt Castle]

No, room temperature.

[Bobby Bones]

Mine's cold. I prefer mine cold. That I don't drink.

[Matt Castle]

No, I guarantee you're re gifting that for sure.

[Bobby Bones]

My name's on it.

[Matt Castle]

Oh, then you' regift.

[Bobby Bones]

That's what I'm saying.

[Matt Castle]

It's like a little trophy that you're just going to put up in the room. Like, this is a really good bourbon that I'm never going to taste.

[Bobby Bones]

I could re gift it to my close friends because they would know.

[Matt Castle]

They think it was funny.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, they would think it was funny and they would appreciate that it's a really expensive bourbon that I was never going to use and picked them to have it.

[Matt Castle]

Yes. So I'd agree with that.

[Bobby Bones]

I have seven of these things that are lost on me. Next up, rainbows. Why, you ask? I am colorblind as crap, so I can see some of the colors, but I don't think that I can see as many colors as vividly as everyone else because I see a rainbow and it's just like a few colors and I'm like, cool. I'm never like, wow. And I think I just don't see colors. Well, generally speaking, therefore, I don't really enjoy rainbows.

[Matt Castle]

I can totally understand that. If you can't see the colors of the rainbow, how it's just like.

[Bobby Bones]

Exactly.

[Matt Castle]

My eyes are playing tricks on me. There's like a few lines up there, but I can't really see them.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, I'm not.

[Matt Castle]

You can't see the entirety of it. Not totally color lined, but expensive coffee.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. I'm gonna tell you why. Because I don't drink coffee.

[Matt Castle]

Oh yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't like coffee. Bad tasting water, expensive or cheap is the same to me. So I have friends that are like, this coffee tastes so pure. Tastes so.

[Matt Castle]

The acidity.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. I hate it so much. I don't know the difference. So when someone's like, this is a great coffee or a great coffee place, unless they have great muffins, no difference to me.

[Matt Castle]

Are you coffee snob Right There with you. No, I'm not a coffee snob. As long as you have a good morning breakfast that I can eat with the coffee.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Matt Castle]

Because a lot of times I drink my coffee black now. Every now and then I'll put a little cream in there. However, I'm not going to go out of my way to a new coffee shop that just opened up just to get some special blend. It's just not what I'm lost on me.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm sure to some people it's found the next one. The hype around Bruce Springsteen. Now, I did not grow up in the Northeast. I've never really got Bruce Springsteen.

[Matt Castle]

The Boss, you mean?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean.

[Matt Castle]

That's right.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't get it. And so I'm not supposed to get it, I think. But like, my favorite artists that are songwriters look at him as one of their favorite songwriters. So, like, I know I'm missing something because my favorite people, it's their favorite. It's my favorite people's favorite.

[Matt Castle]

Is it the depth of his lyrics that.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, no, don't say I don't know depth.

[Matt Castle]

Well, that's what I'm saying. What do your friends say about him that make him such a remarkable figure?

[Bobby Bones]

They just say, like, such a great songwriter, but I feel like it represents so much of the area he's from. And I'm sure there's stuff like Born to Run and I like some of the songs, but I am not, like a pure Bruce Springsteen guy when it comes to, like, the depth of his music because I think it's just lost on me. I. I don't have an answer. I don't know.

[Matt Castle]

Heart's on Fire. Like.

[Bobby Bones]

It'S. It's. I'm on Fire. Hearts on Fire. What's it called? I'm on Fire. I'm on Fire.

[Matt Castle]

I'm on Fire.

[Bobby Bones]

Hearts on Fire is good, though. Is that a different song?

[Matt Castle]

He probably wrote that earlier.

[Bobby Bones]

He was doing Baby Bash and he was doing Tom Jones, so there's no. I. There's no telling what Hearts on Fire is.

[Matt Castle]

That's Eric Church, I think.

[Bobby Bones]

Eric Church.

[Matt Castle]

You know, I'm just matching.

[Bobby Bones]

How's Eric Church? Hearts on Fire. Oh, yeah.

[Matt Castle]

He stole that from Springsteen. See?

[Bobby Bones]

And he does sing a song. Springsteen. Okay, Okay, I got it.

[Matt Castle]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

I think two more being. And I'm pretty tall.

[Frank Reich]

Yeah.

[Matt Castle]

You're what, six foot, six one?

[Bobby Bones]

Sure. My ID says six one.

[Matt Castle]

Six one. Yeah. I wore shoes, so six one shoes.

[Bobby Bones]

That's what I'm saying. If somebody's tall. At a concert, it doesn't bother me. Even if they're taller than me, because I'll just move. It's a concert. You're supposed to have fun.

[Matt Castle]

Right?

[Bobby Bones]

People get upset about people standing up. Like, what's lost to me is people getting angry at people standing up at games or concerts.

[Matt Castle]

Games. There are parts of games that I've been to where they're standing up and they're never gonna sit down. And it's not a point in the game where you have to stand up. So if you want to kind of sit there and watch the game, it is definitely blocking your view. You can't move around concert.

[Bobby Bones]

Unless it's a piano recital or concert. Acoustic. You should. You can stand up whenever you want. Same with a game.

[Matt Castle]

True.

[Bobby Bones]

Now, I don't have to stand up if I don't want to, but if someone's going to stand up, unless there's, like, an old lady or someone in a wheelchair, like, I think everybody should have the right to stand up the whole time.

[Matt Castle]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Because I don't get upset if people do it in front of me. I just.

[Matt Castle]

There are people that get pissed.

[Bobby Bones]

They do.

[Matt Castle]

Oh, man. They do get down on the front.

[Bobby Bones]

It's like, I paid for a ticket and it doesn't say I can't stand. So I'm going to stand.

[Matt Castle]

I'm going to stand.

[Bobby Bones]

Unless it's an acoustic Springsteen show, I'm going to fire two other ones. People who call running fun.

[Matt Castle]

Oh, I've never understood that, ever.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, are you okay? How's this fun? The Distant Runners Mike D. How much do you run a week?

[Mike D]

About 45 miles a week.

[Matt Castle]

Wait, wait, 45? What did you just say?

[Mike D]

Yeah, average about 40 to 45 miles a week.

[Matt Castle]

And that's pleasurable for you?

[Mike D]

For me it is. I don't think it's fun.

[Bobby Bones]

He runs 20 miles at a time.

[Mike D]

Yeah. My Sunday long run was 21 miles.

[Matt Castle]

How long does that take you?

[Mike D]

Three hours.

[Matt Castle]

Oh.

[Bobby Bones]

What do you get from it? And how do you not, I don't know, jump off a bridge whenever you're doing it?

[Mike D]

For me, it clears my mind. Like, when I'm running, I'm not there. Like, my brain is somewhere else. It's kind of like therapy for me. So in that moment, it doesn't suck for me. And then when I get back, I'm just like. I come back down and I feel good.

[Matt Castle]

But you need three hours of therapy. Couldn't you do that done, like, in 15 minutes? Like, what in the world dude, you're seriously messed up.

[Bobby Bones]

So it's good for you. It clears your mind. But my mind, when I run, this is every second of me running. This sucks. This sucks. This sucks. This sucks. This sucks. This sucks. This sucks. That's me running or you think about.

[Matt Castle]

Should I be breathing through my nose?

[Bobby Bones]

This sucks. This sucks. Breathing through my nose. This sucks. Yeah.

[Mike D]

See, I'm like that for the first two miles, and then after. After that, I don't think about it anymore. I don't feel like I'm running anymore.

[Bobby Bones]

Mike lost £100, over £100.

[Mike D]

And that's what started this all.

[Matt Castle]

That's amazing.

[Mike D]

I started walking. Then I started. Eventually. My goal was just to be able to run a mile without stopping. And once I got to that, I was like, let's do two miles. Let's do three miles. And then I did a half marathon. I did a full marathon. And now this is kind of my average.

[Bobby Bones]

And, like, no injections or surgery.

[Mike D]

This is way before I was in.

[Bobby Bones]

Way before they lost over £100.

[Matt Castle]

That's incredible. Honestly, like, the motivation behind that, to go out and to achieve it and start with a small goal and turn it into what he's doing now, which is three hours of therapy on the weekend.

[Bobby Bones]

Torture.

[Matt Castle]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

Three hours.

[Matt Castle]

Do you get the runners high? What they refer to?

[Mike D]

You really do. Like, your. Your body feels good. Your limbs are just all moving, like, once, and you just feel like. Like I could go forever. That's why I, like, look down and I'm like, oh, I've already been going two hours.

[Matt Castle]

I'd be in shock.

[Bobby Bones]

I think I've maybe misunderstood the meaning of good my whole life. If your body feels good to me, when I run, my body feels terrible. My ankles hurt, my hips hurt. I'm bored. I'm questioning every. I hate running so much. Like, it's lost on me.

[Matt Castle]

What?

[Bobby Bones]

He's got me, too, but I hate them. But they're quicker.

[Matt Castle]

They're quicker. And mentally, I can grasp those a lot easier than saying, all right, I'm just gonna go for how many miles you run? 20.

[Mike D]

20 on my long runs.

[Matt Castle]

No chance.

[Mike D]

A normal run, if I go, like, during the week, would probably be, like, 10 miles, which is like, under 90 minutes for me.

[Matt Castle]

I had my older brother the other day. He was with this group of people, and one of them, one of his acquaintances or friends was there. He's an ultra marathon runner, and so he's got crazy. He's got an ultra marathon coming up, and some of the guys that Were there are very similar to you where they go out and they distance run. So they're all jumping on board. Hey, I'll pace you out for the first 20. I'll pace you out. So they're all jumping, and I think they were having a few drinks. And my older brother, who's not a runner, he's getting inspired. He's like, hey, I'll do it. And he's like, really? And he's like, yeah, I'll do it. Not realizing he's got the last stretch of like 15 miles. And then he calls me the next day and immediately regretting that decision because now he's got to go out and get in shape and he's not a distance runner. I'm laughing, thinking, this is going to be hilarious.

[Bobby Bones]

Ultra marathon. I don't know what they run, but they're typically 100 miles.

[Matt Castle]

It's 100 miles.

[Mike D]

That's crazy.

[Bobby Bones]

That's crazy. I've done two Olympic triathlons, which is at the beginning, you swim a mile, just.

[Matt Castle]

You just kind of throw that in there.

[Bobby Bones]

It's not this. I feel like I can throw. I can. Because I'm kicking it under the car. Because I just said ultra marathon. This. An Olympic triathlon is not an ultra marathon.

[Matt Castle]

But it's a pretty. Pretty.

[Bobby Bones]

It's not even an Iron Man.

[Matt Castle]

Rigorous.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes. But I mentioned in the context of mine is much less than this. And I hated it. I swam a mile. I biked for 26 miles, and I ran like six and a half or something like that. Whatever. The.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And it was miserable, I bet.

[Matt Castle]

Sounds awful.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. And just think about running 100 on a road. At least that. You got to like, switch it up with the one that I did. I did it twice.

[Matt Castle]

Those guys. It always fascinates me because there's something. Mentally, they can steal their mind. And when you get to the 100 mile mark, just think about that. 100 miles. How long does that normally take? At least over a day.

[Mike D]

Yeah. I've seen people do it, like day and a half. Two days.

[Matt Castle]

Running straight for a day and a half.

[Bobby Bones]

Wow. Let me type. How long does it take to run a hundred miles? Here we go. Running 100 miles takes most people between 20 and 34 hours.

[Matt Castle]

Wow.

[Bobby Bones]

Man. That's crazy.

[Matt Castle]

That's.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't even want to lay in bed that long. And that's the complete opposite. And that's of doing nothing. I can't even lay in bed that long is as long as they take to run.

[Matt Castle]

It's absurd.

[Bobby Bones]

The Last thing that's lost on me is peanut butter and jelly. I hate peanut butter. I hate peanut butter so much. And so as a kid, it was all peanut butter and jelly all the time.

[Matt Castle]

That is true. And you get scarred from the ones that we used to have to take because it was the old school sack lunch. The jelly's kind of leaking through the bread on the top. It's all bruised and you're just. But I do love peanut butter.

[Bobby Bones]

Most people do. I think sane people do. And playing high school football, they always had. They had uncrustables or peanut butter sandwiches during two A days. And all. All lost to me. I hated it so much I had to, like, bring my own crap.

[Matt Castle]

So you have never liked peanut butter?

[Bobby Bones]

No, never.

[Matt Castle]

Really? You have a peanut allergy?

[Bobby Bones]

No. I like almonds. I like almond butter. I like peanuts. I like butter. I hate peanut butter.

[Matt Castle]

Now you're getting into the strange peanut butter. You're getting into the strange. You said you like peanuts.

[Bobby Bones]

I love peanuts and I love butter.

[Matt Castle]

You know, I've actually started jiffy peanut butter. Oh, man.

[Bobby Bones]

It's like a. I've taken peanuts and put them in butter and eaten that, and that's pretty good. But do I like peanut butter? No.

[Matt Castle]

Did you say you put peanuts in butter?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Matt Castle]

Now that's. That's just different. I'm sorry.

[Bobby Bones]

I wanted to see if.

[Matt Castle]

I'm sorry.

[Bobby Bones]

I wanted to see if I liked a peanut in butter. Turns out I do. But do I like peanut butter? Heck, no. It's awful to me. To me. Wow.

[Matt Castle]

That is. Yeah, that's.

[Bobby Bones]

I've never liked it.

[Matt Castle]

That's definitely out there. I love peanut butter.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, well, you should. It's something that most normal people like.

[Matt Castle]

So did you have peanut butter jelly when you were younger or just always.

[Bobby Bones]

Threw it out, Never ate it. I hated it.

[Matt Castle]

Oh, you never even had it. You never, like, did the Doritos. I was a little fat kid, so I loved it. I'd put the Doritos in the middle of the sandwich, squish it down of.

[Bobby Bones]

The peanut butter sandwich.

[Matt Castle]

Oh, yeah. Fantastic flavor profile would do that with.

[Bobby Bones]

Bologna sandwiches and mustard. Put the Doritos in there. Perfect.

[Matt Castle]

Oh, Wonder bread.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, perfect.

[Matt Castle]

And then you had the little plastic cheese that came out, and then bologna. Did you ever fry the bologna?

[Bobby Bones]

My grandma did. I wasn't really trusted around the stove.

[Matt Castle]

No, we had the microwave. I'd throw it in there. I throw the cheap route. Burn one side, other side's kind of puffed up.

[Bobby Bones]

Is that frying if it's in the.

[Matt Castle]

Microwave, well, it's burning, so it's hot baloney. Hot baloney? You got grease all over your microwave for two weeks.

[Bobby Bones]

No, I never, I never ate peanut butter.

[Matt Castle]

Were you a Miracle Whip guy or were you the best food? I could have guessed that.

[Bobby Bones]

Hate mayonnaise. Oh, disgusting. Love mustard. I think every meat is better with mustard.

[Matt Castle]

Mustard. Do you have a go to like steak sauce?

[Bobby Bones]

A1 and I want A1.

[Matt Castle]

I will put A1 on anything.

[Bobby Bones]

It doesn't matter how good the steak is. A1 always makes it better.

[Matt Castle]

I do feel bad when every now and then I'm just in the mood for steak sauce. And I'll ask for steak sauce at a nice steak restaurant and they look at you like you just blew their mind.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. I have in the past taken bottles with me to restaurants. Even the small bottles, because I love it. I don't.

[Matt Castle]

Put this in your purse.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Matt Castle]

What, your wallet? No, the A1 sauce.

[Bobby Bones]

My wife has never had a condiment ever.

[Matt Castle]

Never had a condom.

[Bobby Bones]

No Mustard? No. Ketchup? No. Mayonnaise? No. And any. She hates all of them. Never had a condiment. Won't touch the bottles if I leave them on the counter.

[Matt Castle]

Is it texture for her or just.

[Bobby Bones]

I've asked her that. She said no because all the textures are different because mayonnaise is different than mustard. But again, I don't eat mayonnaise. But there's a lot of mustard in my house because I love it. And ketchup. But if I leave the bottle and she's. If she's cleaning the kitchen, the one thing that remains is whatever condiment I had out because she will not even touch the bottle.

[Matt Castle]

She's allergic. She just sauces.

[Bobby Bones]

Hates it, hates it, hates it.

[Matt Castle]

That's, that's, that's very interesting.

[Bobby Bones]

I think that's it for this week. Thanks again to Coach Reich. What do you have going on this week?

[Matt Castle]

This week we got some tournaments going on. We got a volleyball tournament. We got some baseball for you. Sports school. School is officially out for summer, so entertainment of children is a big, big thing around our house right now. A lot of swimming outdoors. Even though the weather's been kind of.

[Bobby Bones]

It's been bad. It's rained all the time.

[Matt Castle]

It's trash.

[Bobby Bones]

It's just all rain.

[Matt Castle]

We did have a. About a three day stretch of last week, Wednesday through, I'd say around Friday. That was incredible. Nice day. 75, 76. But we've gotten so many of these, like storms that's coming through that's Just makes it miserable when the ground's always.

[Bobby Bones]

Soggy and wet, soaking anything. Yeah, I'm going to go and play Pains Valley.

[Matt Castle]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

You are in Branson. I'm pretty excited about that. It's a wonderful course. I invited you to come along, but now it's summer and you can't do anything, so.

[Matt Castle]

I can't do anything. He. You literally told me that right before. Like, hey, what are you doing this week?

[Bobby Bones]

I just found. I just. I literally just got the call we're going to go do it.

[Matt Castle]

But the most amazing part is I'm sitting there telling you, oh, I got volleyball, and we got this. You know, I was going to invite you to Branson. I was like, oh, you just broke my heart.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, we're gonna. We're gonna fly in the private. Fly.

[Matt Castle]

Pretty. Not a bad deal.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, we just.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, but.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, you can't go. All right.

[Matt Castle]

Are you gonna shoot 70?

[Bobby Bones]

No, I'll probably. Whenever it matters, I shoot like 300.

[Matt Castle]

No, I think you're gonna kill if it.

[Bobby Bones]

If I'm like, I really want to play. Well, because the course is really nice. I tend to get. I tend to get a little tight, but if it's, like, big stakes, I tend to not be tight.

[Matt Castle]

Who are you going with, though?

[Bobby Bones]

Brother in law.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Father in law. Because it's like a year wait to get on there. So I made a couple calls, right? And they really have wanted to play for a long time, and I have the ability every once to make a call. And so we were hoping to be in Oklahoma City for the College World Series. So my schedule's open, and I was like, hey, we're coming out. I'm gonna shoot some content. And they were like, no problem.

[Matt Castle]

That's gonna be great.

[Bobby Bones]

It's awesome. So, yeah, sorry, you can't go.

[Matt Castle]

Thanks for rubbing that in.

[Bobby Bones]

I literally. But I literally.

[Matt Castle]

No, I really do appreciate it because Brandon.

[Bobby Bones]

Brandon's going.

[Matt Castle]

It's very thoughtful.

[Bobby Bones]

And Brandon's shooting it. Did I not ask you 20 minutes before we got here? And I wanted to ask you in person. I was like, hey, you should go with us, because you're my friend and you go on all this other. So I'm gonna go hunt and shoot birds and do all this over. And I'm like, well, maybe you want to come play golf for one night? We have a cabin and everything. Oh, I know.

[Matt Castle]

Maybe I could just pot off my kids, somebody that'll take them to the church.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm in.

[Matt Castle]

Hey, kids, I'll be back. I Swear.

[Bobby Bones]

All right, that's it. Thank you, guys. Please, wherever you're listening to this, if it's on the Bobby Bone show feed or any of the NFL feeds that are not the Lots to say feed, if you don't mind, it would help us tremendously if you went to the Lots to say feed and subscribe to the show. It really would help us. And if you don't mind leaving a comment, if you leave a comment and you write as the comment, matt Castle is my daddy, and you spell Castle's last name right, I will pick one of those comments and send you a signed Matt Castle jersey. I have another one, so I will go and pick one if you go right in the comments. Because on Spotify, you can actually mic right down below it. Yeah, you write in the comments, matt Castle is my daddy. You can write anything else. I will pick one of them. We will send you a Matt Castle.

[Matt Castle]

I can't wait to see what they write after they have to write, matt Castle's my daddy.

[Bobby Bones]

If it's your kids, though, that's too literal. And we will not give them a jersey.

[Matt Castle]

They do not get a jersey.

[Bobby Bones]

They kept you from playing golf with them, right? Yes. All right, that's it. Thank you, guys. Thanks to Brandon Ray. Thanks to Mike D. Filling in for kickoff, Kevin One final time. He had twins and he'll be back next week.

[Matt Castle]

Let's go.

[Bobby Bones]

So he also will not be going golfing.

[Matt Castle]

Can't wait to hear about that journey.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I bet in the two weeks, I bet it's been quite the journey.

[Matt Castle]

I bet he's grown up a lot.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes. He comes. He's gray. He was bald before he left, but now he's gray completely. That's Matt Castleman. Bobby Jones. We've had lots to say. Bye, everybody. Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is a production of the NFL and iHeart podcasts. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You're listening to an iHeart pod.