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Matt Castle
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Matt Jones
Hey, this is Matt Jones, I'm Drew.
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Drew Franklin
Franklin and this is NFL Cover Zero. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different.
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Matt Jones
Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game.
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Drew Franklin
What was that? Oh my. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining. And twice a week that is exactly what you're going to get. Listen NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever Podcast.
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Greg Rosenthal
Football is back. That's right, the new NFL season is here and you should be listening to NFL Daily as we march along to Super Bowl 60. It's in the name NFL Daily so you'll have fresh content in your feed all season long. Join me, Greg Rosenthal, in an all star cast of co hosts for previews and recaps of every single game. NFL Daily will keep you up to date with everything you need to know so you can sound smarter than all your friends. Listen to NFL daily on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Hey everybody, Daniel Jeremiah here and I'm Bucky Brooks on Move to six. We take you inside the game, from breaking down college prospects and NFL rookies.
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Bucky Brooks
To evaluating team building philosophies, coaching trends, and how front offices construct winning rosters.
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Daniel Jeremiah
We study the tape, talk to decision makers and give you a perspective you won't find anywhere else.
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Bucky Brooks
It's everything you need to understand the why behind what happens on Sundays.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Don't miss it. Listen to the Move the Sticks podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Matt Castle
Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is a production of the NFL and iHeart podcasts.
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Greg Rosenthal
We got Lots to say we got lots to say.
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Randall Cobb
We're glad you're here and we hope you stay.
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Greg Rosenthal
Cause we got lots to say. Yeah, we got lots.
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Randall Cobb
Hey now, here's Bobby and Matt.
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Matt Castle
All right, welcome to another episode of Lots to say. We did two this week because we had pretty much an hour here with Randall Cobb, who I think Randall Cobb is like playing that slot in Green Bay, making all those catches across the middle, being quick. When Rogers went to the jets, he went with them. So. And also Randall Cobb was always big for fantasy. Like there'd be just random weeks. We'd have like 19, 20, 21 points. So super cool that Randall came over. You can follow him on Twitter and Instagram arcob18. And we do talk about the Special Forces show on Fox and I'm glad Matt asked about that. He's doing that and so for sure watch that show if it's something that would interest you. But Randall Cobb got a whole list here. Former NFL wide receiver Aaron Rodgers is the godfather of one of his sons and was at his wedding. So when we talk about Aaron Rodgers, know that there's a relationship more than just quarterback, wide receiver. He was the 64th overall pick in the 2011 NFL Draft, which is the second round Pro Bowler all rookie team in 2011, first team all American, went in college two time first team all SEC, 57 career touchdowns at the time. He set the record for the longest kickoff return in the NFL with 108 yard return, which we do talk about it. Scored five game winning fourth quarter touchdowns, went back to Kentucky to finish his degree in 2016 while in the NFL. And I could keep going, but Randall Cobb, super nice guy. We were so excited to have him here.
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Randall Cobb
Yes, sir.
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Matt Castle
To the simulator. He pointed it out as soon as he sat down.
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Randall Cobb
Yes.
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Matt Castle
He said, I think we're sitting in a golf simulator.
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Randall Cobb
We've got the intro.
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Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
Huh?
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Randall Cobb
You've seen my game.
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Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
We've got some work to do. We've got a little bit of work to do.
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Matt Castle
We'll get some swings in after. Right in here. Good to see you, man.
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Randall Cobb
Great to see you too.
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Matt Castle
Well, let's just start. How much do you keep up with the current landscape of football?
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Randall Cobb
I am teetering right now. My wife the other day last Sunday she was like, you haven't watched this much football ever since I've known you. And I think last year was a little bit of a transition, you know, not playing. But this year I'm back on the couch enjoying it.
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Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
Let me ask you this, are you one of those guys that will watch a particular game? Are you a red zone guy? I turned into a red zone guy.
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Randall Cobb
So I have red zone on. And then like so the way that I got the set up, I got four screens, I got the red zone on, I'LL have two games going and then maybe we'll see who the third game is down here. Yeah. Yeah.
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Matt Castle
For the first time this past week, I had a little over stimulus where I was like, I can't watch red zone. It was too much.
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Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
My wife looked at me and goes, I think this is football for people with add.
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Matt Castle
I think so for the first time ever, because that's normally not what happens to me. But it was balancing so much. And my wife was watching a little with me, too. She was like, how do you do this? And I thought to myself, I don't know, I can't. And. And also it's like I got fantasy, I got. I'm gambling. It's like I got eight things happening aside from the eight games happening at once. That. A little bit. I had to take a breath.
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Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
Yeah. Step away.
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Matt Castle
I stepped away to the Cowboys game, which was then like 80 to 80 in the fourth quarter, which was like its own red zone channel. That game bouncing so much. We put the Cowboys helmet up here because you had a little stint with the Cowboys.
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Randall Cobb
There we go. Stint.
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Matt Castle
So did Cass. Cass, man.
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Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
Had a little stint. Had a little stint. It was a one year stint.
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Matt Castle
How long did you play the Cowboys game?
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Randall Cobb
I was a year, too.
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Matt Castle
What was that experience like for you?
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Randall Cobb
It was great. It was a lot of fun. You know, we went 8 and 8, which doesn't sound like that should be a lot of fun, but it was a great group of guys. Dak. That was Zeke right after he signed his big deal to come back to the Cowboys. I was there that whole year. That was Garrett's last year. He ended up getting fired at the end of the season. And then they brought in Mike McCarthy, who was my coach my entire career. And you know, my wife, she still kicks me for not signing back with the Cowboys.
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Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
Yeah, that's crazy. How was that transition, though? Cause you're with Green Bay for that whole, what, first nine, Eight years. Eight years. Eight years. And then you go to the Cowboys. What was it like? Just going into that new environment, culture wise, because you're used to one thing for so long, for sure. And then you make that transition, go to new organizations, see how things are run.
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Randall Cobb
Yeah. I think that, you know, you have this perception of what the Cowboys organization is from the outside, and then once you get in and you start to see and you start to pull back the layers, you start to see how they operate. And I loved it. I had a blast. You know, I felt like I was part of the Jones family, you know, you see everyone running around the facility. Charlotte has her own operation. Haley has her own operation. Shy was in the equipment room. Who's one of the grandsons, was in the equipment room when I was there. So everyone has their piece. And it really makes you feel like you're a part of the family.
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Matt Castle
Did you feel like the Cowboys, like, that was a well run, well organized organization?
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Randall Cobb
Without a doubt. I mean, between Green Bay and then Dallas, you can see a lot of similarities. I would say the difference is ownership, obviously. Right. Green Bay doesn't have an owner. They don't really spend the money. They kind of hoard it all. And the Cowboys, everywhere you go, it's luxury. You know, we had. They were doing construction at the facility in Frisco the year I was there. So we had, like, valet service, like, when we're pulling up for practice.
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Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
I was a year. I was a year before that, we were at the ranch, and I was like, there's no valet. And everybody's like, oh, it's like the Taj Mahal, right?
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Randall Cobb
Yeah. And then they had, like, a members only restaurant that, like, you would see businessmen out watching practice, like having work meetings and enjoying lunch and having drinks and watching us practice. So it was a different experience than what I had in Green Bay, but it was a lot of fun.
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Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
Now, you say you talk about Jerry, but did Jerry also come and talk to the team sometimes before Garrett would? That was the thing that blew my mind, because you never see that. Right. You come in after a game and the coach addresses the team, talks, says whatever he's going to say. Jerry was the first one to always talk, and it was that. That blew my mind.
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Randall Cobb
It did. And then he would have the media in there, like to have his press conference before they started interviewing the players or the coaches. So that was definitely different. But it was cool. I really enjoyed that. And I have a pretty cool story with Jerry. Just right after they hired McCarthy, I went to the press conference, and as we're leaving, he puts his arm around me like, I didn't want you to get lonely down here. So, like, in my mind, I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm getting ready to sign back with the Cowboys, easy, no question. Then Houston come in later with an offer that I just couldn't refuse.
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Matt Castle
So whenever your coach comes down to Dallas. Cause it wasn't like he left Green Bay to come to Dallas, Right? Like, he.
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Randall Cobb
Yeah, he got fired.
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Matt Castle
He was gone. He was out for a bit. He was in the basement watching film is what they would say.
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Randall Cobb
Yeah.
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Matt Castle
And Then he came. Was he the reason that you came here was his knowledge of you? Is that what helped get you to Dallas?
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Randall Cobb
No. So I went to Dallas the year before. So I was on three separate teams in three years in a row and all three coaches got fired. So I think we have a common denominator there. But 2018, McCarthy got fired. 2019, I go to Dallas. Garrett gets fired right after that season. 2020, the COVID year, they're hiring McCarthy and I end up going to Houston.
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Matt Castle
Oh, so you didn't play with him. You were there before he came in.
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Randall Cobb
But it was crazy cause after they hired him, I think the assumption was signing back for sure. So like all the coaches that were on staff currently were like, hey, like trying to tell me to put a word in for, for, for, you know, that next season.
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Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
So you grew up in East Tennessee. You were a 3.3 sport athlete growing up. When did you know that football was going to be your path that you were going to take moving forward?
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Randall Cobb
It was probably. I was a late bloomer. I'm young for my class. I started school at 5, I graduated high school at 17. I probably should have been held back a year. Probably would have opened up some more opportunities for me. But I played quarterback in high school. Undersized at a two way school. You know, we had 500 kids in our school, but we had a dominant football program all four of my years. We won a state championship. 55 and 5.
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Matt Castle
Wow.
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Randall Cobb
I didn't play until my junior year. Like we had some, we had some guys on our team. Dudes. Number one tight end, defensive end in the nation. Ended up going to Florida State. A running back that signed with Tennessee but had to go to Juco. Defensive end, quarterback.
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Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
This is all the same school.
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Randall Cobb
Private school. No, this is a. No way. This is a public school.
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Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
I was going to say, are you a boarding school?
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Randall Cobb
No, we just had some guys. I mean it's a really small community, but just like athletes galore. So for me I didn't play like I didn't start until my junior year. So I'm always looking up to these guys. I would go to camps. I remember going to Clemson camp and the quarterback coach there told me that, you know, my best bet was go D3. So in my mind I'm like, you know, if I can go to a Vandy or a Wake Forest and like get into one of these really high level institutions, like I can go and get a great job after my career is over. Right. That's where my mindset Was. And you know, I went to Vandy, they didn't offer me. I went to Wake Forest, they didn't offer me. I'm out there playing db, receiver, quarterback, like anything, like anything. And looking for a scholarship and finally I get my first one before my senior year from Middle Tennessee State. And then Kentucky offered not too long after that and then Tennessee came in like late into my senior year.
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Matt Castle
Is that where like Middle Tennessee opens up a door for other coaches to look at you? Does that happen at all where a scholarship's offered and you're like, I got this. And the other coaches may be like, all right, if they're offering you, maybe I should investigate why they're offering you. Did that happen at all?
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Randall Cobb
I think so. I think you would say so. Especially when you start getting into some of them top tier schools. I would assume that usc, if they see that somebody is offered by Notre Dame, they're going to check out this kid, right? They're going to see what he's all about. I would assume that that happens in sports.
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Matt Castle
Why did you go to Kentucky?
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Randall Cobb
The coaching staff. I was there. Rich Brooks was the head coach when I was being recruited. Randy Sanders was the quarterback coach. You know, a guy that coached at Tennessee for a long time that I had a lot of respect for. Joker Phillips was the offensive coordinator. And I just felt really comfortable. We had grown a relationship. I could trust what they were telling me. They told me that they would give me an opportunity to play quarterback, but like they're not guaranteeing that anything happens from that. And that's all I wanted was a chance.
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Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
So you wanted to go to college and play quarterback?
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Randall Cobb
I did.
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Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
That was your primary thing. And you actually ended up playing quarterback your freshman year at Kentucky. Talk about that experience. And then when did the transformation start to where you moved to wide receiver?
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Randall Cobb
Well, yeah, I came in. So my going into my freshman year during training camp, you know, that was two a days back in that day. Right. So we would have one practice. Half the team would practice the first practice and then there was like a 30 minute special teams gap and then the second group would practice the second half of practice for the first few days of camp. So what they were having me do was I would play quarterback in one practice. I had to practice both practices for the first few days. And then, you know that that led to me having an opportunity. I started as a receiver in the first game and I think it was about a second or third game. We started rotating me, Mike Hartline, who was our order other quarterback in back and forth. And then I think I ended up starting like three or four games at quarterback that season. I mean, I think I threw two touchdowns and five interceptions. Right?
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Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
Hey, stat book.
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Randall Cobb
Hey. But I got it in. I got it in. But we had a game against Georgia where Stafford, A.J. green, those guys were on the other side. And it went back and forth. And I remember we had a drive where I led us down the field and then threw a pick like on a 15 yard line, opportunity to score. And I was like, man, like after that game, like obviously hurt and pain that we lost. But I think it was like the realization like, oh, maybe I can really, I can really do something here. Foreign.
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Drew Franklin
And this is NFL Cover Zero. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining. And twice a week that is exactly what you're going to get. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different.
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Matt Jones
Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game.
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Randall Cobb
What was that?
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Matt Jones
Looks like something that should not be sold.
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Drew Franklin
Oh, my.
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Matt Jones
So that was my other big Colts takeaway.
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Drew Franklin
Sold that.
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Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
Yes.
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Matt Jones
Might want to go back to the Colts stadium. Yeah, I might want to go back to the drawing board on that.
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Drew Franklin
Yeah, I thought the shape we had.
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Matt Jones
With pretzels was working pretty well for generations.
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Drew Franklin
We're just here trying to enjoy it. We hope you all will join us throughout the year. And let's go.
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Matt Jones
I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73.
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Drew Franklin
He is a young 73. He is spry.
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Randall Cobb
I wouldn't fight him.
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Drew Franklin
I would listen to NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin, the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
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Greg Rosenthal
Football is back. That's right. The new NFL season is here and you should be listening to NFL Daily as we march along to Super Bowl 60. This is a show for sickos like me. NFL Daily is your kind of show. It's in the name NFL Daily. You'll have fresh content in your feed all season long. Myself, Greg Rosenthal and an all star cast of co hosts will preview and recap every game all season long. Josh Allen coming off an MVP season.
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Play-by-play announcer
And now lateral to Allen and reaching for the pylon. Are you kidding me? It's a touchdown. Have you ever seen that one before?
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Greg Rosenthal
Rookies making a name for themselves.
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Play-by-play announcer
Bulldozer. He is bouncing off defenders and drag down.
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Greg Rosenthal
And of course, the Eagles trying to win another Lombardi.
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Randall Cobb
What a game. What a season. What a team. Eagles fans savor it and rejoice.
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Greg Rosenthal
Listen to NFL daily on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Daniel Jeremiah
What's up everybody? Daniel Jeremiah here and I'm Bucky Brooks. On Move the Sticks, we take you inside the game. From scouting reports and player development to.
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Bucky Brooks
Team building philosophies, coaching trends, and how front offices construct business winning rosters.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Every week we study the tape, talk to decision makers and share the insights you won't find anywhere else.
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Bucky Brooks
It's the kind of conversation that connects the dots. From college football prospects to the NFL.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Stars of tomorrow, we break down the draft, analyze matchups, and evaluate how teams put it all together on game day.
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Bucky Brooks
Plus, we dig into coaching strategies, roster construction, and the trends that shape the league year after year.
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Daniel Jeremiah
Whether you're a die hard fan or just love understanding the game on a deeper level, we give you the full picture.
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Bucky Brooks
If you want insight that goes beyond the box score, this podcast is for you.
- [18:06]
Daniel Jeremiah
Don't miss it. Listen to the Move the Six podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Matt Castle
So when was the transition to where you fully were focused playing wide receiver?
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Randall Cobb
It never really was a full time thing for me. My junior, my sophomore year I moved to receiver, but I would still meet with the quarterbacks my junior year. I think I was meeting with the receivers at that point, but we were still doing a lot of wildcat quarterback stuff. Like that was a huge part of our offense, so I was pretty raw when I came into the league as far as receiver play, I just hadn't played as much.
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Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
So you get drafted in the second round though, so they, they saw the potential. They knew. But talk to me about when you came into that meeting room. They just came off the super bowl, right? You got Donald Driver, you've got Jordy Nelson, you got Greg Jennings, who was a teammate of mine. I mean, you had some dudes, you had Jones in there.
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Randall Cobb
Yes.
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Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
What was that like, coming into that room with that, in that environment with so many established guys?
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Randall Cobb
It was the greatest thing that ever happened to me. I, I not only walked into a room with great players, but great men, all of them married, all of them kids. I'm like, I have nothing in common with these guys, like besides the football part, right. Like I'm a 20 year old kid. That's like living life, like go to Green Bay. Not a whole lot to do up there, you know, outside of football. So got to focus in on the game. But I got to watch them every single day, whether it be practice, the way they operated in the film room. Donald was in year 13, I believe, at that point. Like, I got to see his process of, like, what he did to keep his body fresh and ready to go. Obviously, Aaron spinning it at quarterback. So I was very fortunate to be able to play with a group like that. And I wasn't forced to go out and be expected to play 50 plays offensively. And, you know, like I said, I was pretty raw. Like, my whole role was as a special teamer was punt return and kick return and, like, I would come in occasionally on offense. But, like, my first touchdown, I ran the wrong route.
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Matt Castle
Like, what happened there? Tell me that story.
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Randall Cobb
He gave us a signal and like, it was. It was a three by one and like, he gave, like, I thought he was looking at me, like, telling me, hey, I need you to run this slant right here. No, he was telling us, like, slant flat right.
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Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
Oh, no way.
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Randall Cobb
So I'm at the number two, and instead of running the flat route, I run a slant. He sees me pop open, he hits me across the middle, and I go score. I had no clue until I got back to the sideline that I ran the wrong route. Oh, what did he.
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Matt Castle
How did he tell you?
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Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
What did he say?
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Randall Cobb
He didn't even tell me. He congratulated me on the touch point. And then finally, like, you know, after the celebration, we were sitting over there, they were like, hey, you know you ran the wrong route, right? I was like, no, he gave me a sled. He's like, no, like, you got a flat.
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Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
That is so good.
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Randall Cobb
Yes.
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Matt Castle
So I went up to Eugene, Oregon, and we had spent some time with Lanning and those guys, and they were like, think about Eugene is. It's great, but there's nothing to do. Like, there's some stuff to do, but there's nothing to do. So a lot of those guys stay out of trouble because there's not, like, a big city to go to where there are a lot of options, a lot of resources for trouble. Is Green Bay like that?
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Randall Cobb
It is, it is. Like, I mean, when you, when you talk about football, that. That is the haven. That's the place you want to be. The. The stadium is the biggest building in the entire city, right? Like, if you're standing on top of the stadium, there's no skyscrapers that's higher than that point. The place shuts down on Sundays after games. Like, you're ordering Papa John's or Longhorns to the house. There's not a whole lot going outside of that. And I think as a young player, that helps because it feels like a college town without all the distractions of the 30,000 kids that's running around and the frat parties and sororities and all that whole scene. Right. So it allows you to focus on what you need to do. You know, when you get bored, you go to the facility and you're getting extra body work or you're watching film and doing those things.
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Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
Talk to me about Aaron as a leader. Was he one of those guys that was very vocal and get on you, like, when you did something wrong? I'm sure he let you know about it, but was he a father? Like, with the facial disappointment where you look at your kid and just be like, I can't believe you did that.
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Randall Cobb
Or, y' all saw those games on Sunday. He's still giving it to those guys. Like, yes, that's. That's what it was. Like, there was an expectation. Like, that's just the standard that he has. Like, if you're going to play with him, you have to understand that it's not. It's not like you. It's like, what he expects from you. And if you want to be on the field, like, you have to hold that standard. And, you know, that was one of the things that was so pivotal for us in our room is we had a bunch of guys that understood ball and. And, like, we didn't make mental errors. Like, if you had mental errors, it was very minimal. Like, I think I went a few seasons where I had, like, one for the entire season. Right. So that. That's just kind of what it was. Like, that was the expectation. And, you know, if you wanted the ball, like, you got to be where you got to be.
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Matt Castle
I'm assuming he did the work first and foremost with the expectation of you do it as well. Like, he knew it. So expected you guys to know it.
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Randall Cobb
Yes. I mean, he. I mean, I always say I got my doctorate from Rogers University, like, and when it comes to football, like, I know X's and O's, you want to talk about protections, I can get into some of that with you just from my quarterback background. So being able to see a defense from a quarterback perspective as a receiver, that gave me an upper hand for sure. But, yeah, he was. He understood the offense. When you play in the same offense for a decade plus, like, it. It allows you to play free and fast and understand what the concepts are, what the signals are, where you need to be, why you need to be there where you are in the progression, like all the minute details of the game. So that, that was, that was something that, that really helped out.
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Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
Now he was a master also. At the line of scrimmage, how much of the offense were you guys always prepared for an adjustment at the line of scrimmage? He sees something. You always would see the signals available and the different adjustments that he'd make. But how much would you say when you go into a week that you've got to just be prepared for him to change stuff at any point?
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Randall Cobb
Yeah, I would say that we had a pretty good idea based off of, you know, when you look at the numbers of what they do on third down or defensively, you have a good understanding of what teams are going to do going into it with the game plan. But in game adjustments happen and that's part of the game. He was one that something could happen in practice in week three. And we talk about it, we talk about it on the field at practice, we talk about it in the meeting room. And we may not hear or talk about that again until week 10 in the middle of a game. And we have this same look and it's like, hey, remember X from week three when we were talking about this at practice and we talked about like, he's expecting you to reknow and remember those kind of little details so we can implement them in the middle of a game in Week 10.
- [25:27]
Matt Castle
When you go to the jets, was it a lot because of your knowledge of what he was trying to do and what he was doing?
- [25:33]
Randall Cobb
Yeah, I was planning on retiring. I was after my. After going to Green Bay. Going back to Green Bay. I got traded back from Houston. It was like, man, that's a full circle moment. I get to come back to where it all started for me. I was at peace. And obviously the jets made that move to get him. It's crazy because we had conversations about playing in New York a long time ago and it was just like, oh, that's never going to happen. But it come to be. And we had that moment and that opportunity and it was a great situation. You had Robert Sala, who I thought was a great coach, defensive minded. Aaron was going to have a little bit of flexibility offensively to implement some of what he does. They had a great running game with Breece Hall. We felt like we had enough pieces there and then four plays into the season, the whole thing blows up.
- [26:31]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
So what is the longest season of your life?
- [26:33]
Randall Cobb
Oh, without a doubt. Without a doubt. And I was actually surprised they kept me as long as they did. I thought that after that they would, you know, start making moves.
- [26:41]
Matt Castle
What do you remember in game about that and what. And how fast did you know what had happened with him?
- [26:47]
Randall Cobb
Nobody was talking about it on the sideline. We were trying to figure out, like, what happened. I think they were trying to keep our mind in the game and not tell us exactly what it was. So it wasn't until halftime for me. I walked in at halftime, immediately ran back to the training room, and I just see him laying on the bench, and as soon as he sees me, it was just like he started crying, and I was like, dang, man, it's tough. So I knew what it was at that point, but, yeah, and then we went out and finished that game, and somehow we won that game, right? We won. Yeah. It was like a crazy punt return to end it.
- [27:24]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
Knowing him, did you think that he was going to come back and play the following year?
- [27:30]
Randall Cobb
I thought for sure that he wouldn't want to go out that way. I thought for sure that would be the case. And there were a lot of things that I saw during that season. When you talk about organizations, like, after being in Dallas and being in Green Bay and seeing how certain things are run, you realize some of what's happening that's more than football. And it's like, I'm sorry. I'm good. I'm good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm good. So, you know, it was unfortunate, but, you know, he obviously played that second year in New York, and, you know, I think anyone that's came off of injury knows that that first season back, you're not quite up to your standard because you've been rehabbing the entire time rather than focusing on your training.
- [28:16]
Matt Castle
We saw it with him, saw it with Kurt Cousins.
- [28:18]
Randall Cobb
Right.
- [28:18]
Matt Castle
You know, that Achilles. Usually they say you can come back, but you're not fully back until a year and four or five months, easily. Did you think about maybe moving to Pittsburgh for a little bit?
- [28:29]
Randall Cobb
What's crazy is my favorite childhood team growing up was the Steelers. I grew up a Hines Ward fan. Like, that was my guy, like Randall Cordell Stewart. My dad was a huge Pittsburgh fan because Lynn Swann's grandmother lived across the street from him when he was growing up. So Lynn Swan would come back to town and play pass with my dad growing up as a kid. So I grew up with fatheads of Jerome Bettis and some of those legendary Stillers moments that I remember watching with my dad on the couch. Like, I was a huge Stillers fan grow. But no, I was at that point I was ready.
- [29:08]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
You made some, what, five game winning catches in your career. Does one stand out to you in your mind? Because in the most pivotal moments, you stepped up in these games.
- [29:17]
Randall Cobb
Yeah, I would say probably. It would probably be the Bears game, 2013, to get us into the playoffs.
- [29:24]
Matt Castle
Walk me through it. Walk me through it.
- [29:25]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
Yeah.
- [29:25]
Randall Cobb
Special moment. Special moment. So 2013, I broke my leg mid season. Like low hit. I thought I blew everything out. Just had a plateau fracture. Missed 10 weeks. Aaron broke his collarbone. Same season he was out like eight weeks. We both come back for that Bears game and we had to win to get into the playoffs. I think I played like 20 snaps that game, just on a very limited basis. I think we had like three fourth down conversions on that final drive. And then it was fourth and eighth from the 48. And we're in a huddle during a timeout and Aaron basically is like, hey, okay, this, this is what I'm thinking. Jordy was at three. Hey, I want you to run like a deep cross. Randle, get past the sticks. Run a pivot right there past the sticks. Jj, who was playing outside, I want you to run a Puma comeback route 15 yards outside of number one. We get up to the line and we realize they're in zero. So zero blitzing, everyone playing man across the board. And I see Chris Conti, who's at safety, who's covering me. He's like standing right where I have to stop. So the ball snapped and I come off the ball and I just remember looking and seeing his eyes in the backfield. And I'm like, I can take it right here. And I just throw my hand up and like, hoping that he sees me throw my hand up. And the next thing I know is I look up and the ball's in the air. And it felt like the little giants with the toilet paper's coming. It's like, those are always the hardest one. Cause it's like, it's so easy. It's right there. Just make the play. But luckily I was able to make the catch. Dive into the end zone. I actually just had that jersey. That jersey's been in storage forever. Just had that jersey framed. I still have the, the orange stain on it from, from the Bears logo. I still have the helmet with the grass that was stuck in my helmet that I got put in a shadow box. But yeah, those. That was probably one of those moments that I look back like, wow, that was. That was special.
- [31:48]
Drew Franklin
Hey, this is Matt Jones. And I'm Drew Franklin, and this is NFL Cover Zero. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining, and twice a week. That is exactly what you're gonna get. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different.
- [32:05]
Matt Jones
Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game.
- [32:08]
Drew Franklin
What was that?
- [32:08]
Matt Jones
Looks like something that should not be sold.
- [32:11]
Drew Franklin
Oh, my.
- [32:11]
Matt Jones
So that was my other big Colts takeaway.
- [32:13]
Drew Franklin
They sold that?
- [32:13]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
Yes.
- [32:14]
Matt Jones
I might want to go back at the Colt Stadium.
- [32:16]
Randall Cobb
Yeah.
- [32:16]
Matt Jones
Might want to go back to the drawing board on that.
- [32:17]
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
- [32:18]
Matt Jones
I thought the shape we had with pretzels was working pretty well for generations.
- [32:22]
Drew Franklin
We're just here trying to enjoy it. We hope you all will join us throughout the year. And let's go.
- [32:27]
Matt Jones
I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73.
- [32:31]
Drew Franklin
He is a young 73. He is spry.
- [32:34]
Randall Cobb
I wouldn't fight him.
- [32:36]
Drew Franklin
I would listen to NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
- [32:49]
Greg Rosenthal
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- [33:16]
Play-by-play announcer
And now lateral to Allen and reaching for the pylon. Are you kidding me? It's a touchdown. Have you ever seen that one before?
- [33:25]
Greg Rosenthal
Rookies making a name for themselves.
- [33:27]
Randall Cobb
Run again.
- [33:28]
Play-by-play announcer
Rejected. That's a bulldozer. He is bouncing off defenders and dragged out.
- [33:34]
Greg Rosenthal
And of course, the Eagles trying to win another Lombardi.
- [33:37]
Randall Cobb
What a game. What a season, what a team. Eagles fans savor it and rejoice.
- [33:44]
Greg Rosenthal
Listen to NFL daily on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [33:50]
Daniel Jeremiah
What's up, everybody? Daniel Jeremiah here. And I'm Bucky Brooks on Move the Sticks. We take you inside the game, from scouting reports and player development to team.
- [33:59]
Bucky Brooks
Building philosophies, coaching trends, and how front offices construct winning rosters.
- [34:04]
Daniel Jeremiah
Every week we study the tape, talk to decision makers, and share the insights you won't find anywhere else.
- [34:10]
Bucky Brooks
It's the kind of conversation that connects the dots, from college football prospects to the NFL stars of tomorrow.
- [34:16]
Daniel Jeremiah
We break down the draft, analyze matchups, and evaluate how teams put it all together on game day.
- [34:21]
Bucky Brooks
Plus, we dig into coaching strategies, roster construction, and the trends that shape the league year after year.
- [34:28]
Daniel Jeremiah
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- [34:33]
Bucky Brooks
If you want insight that goes beyond the box score, this podcast is for you.
- [34:38]
Daniel Jeremiah
Don't miss it. Listen to the Move the Six podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
- [34:54]
Matt Castle
You guys owned the Bears.
- [34:56]
Randall Cobb
We did, yeah.
- [34:57]
Matt Castle
It was like it didn't matter what year it was, what the records were. You guys owned the Bears. Why was that?
- [35:06]
Randall Cobb
I wish I could tell you that I knew exactly why. I think for a long time we just kind of had their number because we, we knew what they were going to do and we just knew that they couldn't stop us. And it was just, I think that confidence that you play with, where it's like, we've been here, we've done that, we know what this field is going to do. Like, you go down to Chicago and the field is beat up, you got to put in those long studs, seven studs. Yeah. You know what it is, you know what kind of game it's going to be. And you just, you go out there and you just play with a confidence that's unmatched.
- [35:45]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
You were talking about you have the jersey, the helmet, and I remember one day we were at school and you pulled up and I think you were moving houses and he opens up the trunk to put his kid's backpack in there and he's got all these different jerseys. So, you know, I used to trade jerseys and we talked about it. Cassidy, you ever do that? I was like, man, it was. My era was before that. But what's your collection like? Because you have an incredible collection. I saw all those jerseys, I was like, wow.
- [36:08]
Matt Castle
Oh, they weren't all just yours. They weren't.
- [36:11]
Randall Cobb
It was all jersey swaps. Some of my favorite ones are mostly my teammates that I played against that went on to move to different teams. Micah Hyde in Buffalo, I got a chance to play against him. I got Aaron's jersey from when I went to Dallas and we played Green Bay in Dallas. I got his jersey from that. I got Tay's jersey when I was in Houston and he was in Green Bay. Those are probably some of my favorite ones. Dante Hightower, who is a guy that, you know, grew up here in Tennessee, we played on an all star team together. East versus west game back when they used to do that.
- [36:52]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
Was he as big back then?
- [36:53]
Randall Cobb
Yes, yes. You know, Alabama, I mean. Yes. That head of his. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. But that was. That was. That's probably some of my favorites.
- [37:01]
Matt Castle
How's your body now?
- [37:02]
Randall Cobb
It's good. I actually. I played tennis this morning, and I'm like, man, this is. This is nice to be able to move around, have some aches, you know. Got to. Got to roll out some mornings to get going. I still feel a few of those hits gotta pop my neck every now and then, but overall I feel pretty good.
- [37:21]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
So Green Bay this year, obviously, they're off to a good start. They made a little bit of a splash with that. That trade early on in the season. What do you think the out. Just the outlook of their season looks like? Cause I think that they're a Super bowl contender, without a doubt in my mind.
- [37:35]
Randall Cobb
Definitely. Definitely. I think. I think they're definitely a contender. Bringing Micah in, just the excitement that's around that alone, the momentum that's built off of that, him wearing number one, who no one's wore number one since Curly Lambeau, which is mind blowing. That alone, I think elevates them to another place that allows that defense to play a little bit more free. They're able to rush for and keep their eyes on the quarterback, play a different style of the game. Rashon Garry, who I think is a great player, is now going to have more opportunities with one on ones. With all the attention that Parsons is going to get. One of the linebackers is playing lights out right now. I'm blanking on his name. My wife would hate me if I said this, but CTE is a real thing.
- [38:28]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
I do that.
- [38:29]
Randall Cobb
I'll make that joke. If she gets mad at me, I.
- [38:32]
Drew Franklin
Think I have it.
- [38:33]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
Mine doesn't say anything. She's like, don't kid.
- [38:35]
Randall Cobb
Stop doing that. That's not funny.
- [38:36]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
No, but.
- [38:37]
Matt Castle
But really, what do you think of Jordan, Love?
- [38:39]
Randall Cobb
I'm a big fan. I'm a big fan of Jordan. Just to see how much he's progressed. I don't know if anyone could have saw that a few years ago. Just to see his ability now and his confidence that he plays with. Some of the things that he was able to add to his game. When I was watching the other day, seeing them make the alpha call and try to catch Washington with too many people on the field like that was a huge thing that we used to do. And, you know, people would call it stealing, but it's part of the rules. So we, we. He's been able to add that to his arsenal and understand when and how to get that done. Those little, those little things make a huge difference as a quarterback. And Matt Lafleur, I think, is an excellent play caller. He puts him in opportunities to win. He makes the game easy and fun. He creates matchups. I love his ability to take something that he saw from the week before and add it to the game plan. And Jordan's been executing it.
- [39:47]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
Were you shocked that they finally took a receiver in the first round with Matthew Goldman?
- [39:50]
Randall Cobb
Yes.
- [39:51]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
You're sitting there going, I mean, the laundry list of high second round draft picks, including yourself, was wild. But did you think that they were finally gonna pull the trigger?
- [39:58]
Randall Cobb
I didn't think that they would, but I remember seeing him on the board like, and it was getting close to Green Bay pick, and I was like, take him, please take him. I got a chance to work with golden for the draft or for the combine. So like his agent and me, best friends, best friend, best man at my wedding, best man.
- [40:19]
Matt Castle
Oh, legitimate. Got it.
- [40:20]
Randall Cobb
Yeah, yeah. Ed Barry, incredible story. We can get to that too. But he asked me if I could work with him like X's and O's, like leading up to the combine because that's a huge part of the combine, being able to talk about ball, being able to talk the X's and O's. So I got to work with him a little bit and see his passion and desire for the game and his thirst for knowledge and wanting to grow and like, that is the perfect fit in Green Bay. And one of the things that I continue to try to reach out to him and mentor him as much as I can with is like not pressing because I feel like when I watch him right now, it's like he wants to make a play so bad. And you know, I think that there is an expectation with him being the first round or the first round pick that the packers made at receiver in a long time that he feels like he has to live up to that. But the special thing about Green Bay is like that receiver room. There's always been so many guys, they've done a great job, good is doing a great job in the draft of bringing in guys and it not being one person that has to do majority of the work. Like Romeo Dobbs is a guy, okay. Like he, he, he, he deserves a big bag and I'm sure he's going to get it at some point. Christian Watson, when he gets healthy is going to be a huge part. Jaden Reed. I mean, now that he's out, you know, he's. It looks like he's going to be out for a while with his collarbone. I. I would imagine that this is going to be Golden's time to get a few more targets and. And be able to showcase what he can do.
- [41:50]
Matt Castle
Did you ever jump with Roger's cadence at wide receiver?
- [41:53]
Randall Cobb
Yes. Yes, for sure.
- [41:56]
Matt Castle
Because you're definitely farther than a lineman. And I mean, just physics, you're not going to get it as loud, but God dang, that is a tough. Even watching him now, he still got it. He's still pulling people off. Did you have to go in and be like, don't jump, don't jump, don't jump. And still you would flinch?
- [42:11]
Randall Cobb
Yeah. So it's a funny play. And I actually saw one of the tight end. I think it was Tucker Kraft. He did it the other day against Washington. I did that once against Washington in like, 21. He did his cadence, tried to fake like, I was going in motion. That's the best they got me for it. I was like, yeah, yeah.
- [42:33]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
Emotional.
- [42:34]
Randall Cobb
We used to act like. We used to act like we, you know, if we would jump, we act like we were, you know, fixing our knee pads or something. Like, did that ever work? It did. Sometimes you could get away with it as long as you don't, like, over the top. And then, like, start looking around like, you might be able to pull it off and get away with it. That's funny.
- [42:51]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
I've messed myself up before where I'm going double cannons and I go really hard and I forgot that, hey, we're doing double canons and I'll step back. They called me for a false start because I stepped back.
- [43:01]
Randall Cobb
Did you moved?
- [43:01]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
Yeah, because I moved. I can't motion where I am. Or if you're two hands. Yeah, your hands and do that. But I also remember when you guys would go, like, the silent counts. I mean, he'd lift his foot up 15 times to try to get defensive show. And I'm like, how the hell does anybody know that you guys are live on cadence?
- [43:16]
Randall Cobb
I don't understand how, like, teams could get a good jump on it because we would have so many cadences. We would have so many silent cadences. 32, 21. Like, two fake kicks coming on the third one. Like, there was so many of those. We would go on different colors. It might be green. Blue might be the live color. It might be purple, it might be yellow. You just like. I don't understand, like, how anyone and I Think that's one thing that is really tough when you go to a new team that you haven't had that consistency to play with, like, for offensive line to try. Because, I mean, he's used that as a. As a benefit to him for so many years because, you know, obviously been in Green Bay so long, most of his offensive line was always the same. So that was one of the things with the jets that was a little more difficult, and I would assume that it probably is in Pittsburgh as well.
- [44:08]
Matt Castle
Something you mentioned is the amount of time that you and Rogers played together after that many years. Were there times where you didn't even have to say anything? You could just make the look or the gesture and just know what each other meant.
- [44:22]
Randall Cobb
Yeah. So there were a lot of cases of that. Like, when, you know, if you're giving a signal to someone, like, you might want to be over the top with it. Right. Like, to make sure they got it. Well, it would come to the point to where, like, he wouldn't have to look at me. He could just, like, give the signal without looking. And I knew, like, what the adjustment was, what the route he was trying to get to was.
- [44:44]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
So you guys had to do some things off the field. I know one of the things that you guys did was go to the Kentucky Derby because we. We would go with our crew, right?
- [44:51]
Randall Cobb
Yes.
- [44:51]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
And we'd go to the same parties. We'd go to the Barnstable Brown parties. And it always felt like we're kind of sizing each other up because there's, like, the Green Bay Pac and we had, like, all the Patriots guys, but we were always on the same row. What were those experiences like from, like, a team building? Because you guys look like you're having fun, but that's a great environment.
- [45:07]
Randall Cobb
It is. It was a lot of fun. You know, we always looked at y' all with envy. Cause, you know, y' all flashing your rings and doing the whole thing.
- [45:14]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
We bring the boombox out there.
- [45:15]
Randall Cobb
Yeah, bring the boombox. It was always a good time. We always had a group, good group of guys. And, you know, now that we're getting a little older, it's kind of turned into a retirement get together, you know, as a few guys are still playing. But it's like, you know, we go back into the old war stories and get to spend some time together and catch up.
- [45:35]
Matt Castle
Tell me about the 108 yard return. I think it was your rookie year. I've. It pops up occasionally on my TikTok. I think it's still the record or one of the longest returns ever. Do you remember anything specifically about that play?
- [45:49]
Randall Cobb
I don't remember being that deep. I didn't know that I was that deep.
- [45:54]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
Because your coach was going, don't bring it out. Don't bring it out.
- [45:56]
Matt Castle
Because you wouldn't have brought it out if you knew where you were.
- [45:58]
Randall Cobb
If I would have, yeah. If I would have known where I was, I wouldn't have brought it out. But I wish they would have gave me the 109. I mean, my. They went off my front foot.
- [46:06]
Matt Castle
Do you feel like it's 109?
- [46:07]
Randall Cobb
It should have been 109. I think my back foot was, like, almost touching out of bounds, you know, so. But it was 108, which tied the record at the time. It's since been broken. But, yeah, that play was. It was crazy. I just saw a free runner coming. I was able to make him miss. I saw someone getting ready to hit me, and I just, like, tensed up. And luckily, John Coon was there to, like, hold me up and push me forward. And then I just saw green grass and was trying to get home.
- [46:36]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
Man. What's that feel like, to run and just feel, like, fast? Yeah.
- [46:40]
Matt Castle
What's it feel like to run?
- [46:41]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
No, like, when you're. Do you look up at the score bar? Are you one of those guys that look up scoreboard? I'm like, oh, my God, I'm out.
- [46:47]
Randall Cobb
Like, no, I. I've always. I've always thought I was fast, but I never thought I was, like, that fast. So I'm always, like, looking back like, there's somebody here, like, thinking I'm getting ready to get caught. But no, that was a special one.
- [46:59]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
Would you prefer kickoff or punt? I'm. I have my own feeling on it, but I want to hear what you'd say.
- [47:05]
Randall Cobb
I love punt more.
- [47:06]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
Do you really? I would have gone the complete opposite direction.
- [47:09]
Matt Castle
Punt feels vulnerable. A lot more vulnerable.
- [47:11]
Randall Cobb
No, I can't. If you look up, I can still see you. I can still see, you know, I can still see what's going on down there, and I can control that. And I. Again, I'm very analytical. When it came to the game, I would line up at. If the punter's average was 45, I would line up at 46. And that would tell me, like, hey, if he kicks it over my head, I should have space. If I have to run forward, it's probably going to be a fair catch. So that's how I operated. So it was a lot easier to control the environment as A punt returner, whereas a kickoff returner, you are running full speed through a little bitty gap and hoping it doesn't close up. And I've taken some shots on kickoff, so, like, I'm a big component for punt, but.
- [47:58]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
But catching a punt's gotta be much more difficult than the kickoff, I would say.
- [48:03]
Randall Cobb
Not because it's a spiral. Yeah, it's a spiral. It's just like. It's just like catching fast.
- [48:09]
Matt Castle
You run fast, you run f. What do you think of the new kickoff rule?
- [48:13]
Randall Cobb
I love it. I love the. I love that it brings that part of the game back. Like, we've. How many kickoff returns have we seen for touchdowns already this year?
- [48:21]
Matt Castle
Yeah. It's not just a play that's worthless anymore.
- [48:23]
Randall Cobb
Yes. Yeah.
- [48:23]
Matt Castle
Even if it's not a touchdown. Like, you're seeing them brought out to the 42, the 49. Like, it matters. And it used to just be. Okay, we'll go for the kickoff. All right. Another commercial break touchback. And now it does. It actually factors into the game, which. It looks weird still, but I really like the new kickoff.
- [48:39]
Randall Cobb
Yeah, it does. It does look really weird. You know, I think that's the NFL, you know, putting. Putting their band aid on things of trying to make the game look safer. Like, I think. I feel like there's only so much you can do to make that game safer. I mean, it is what it is when it comes to that. They want to make the game safer. Let's take turf out.
- [48:56]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
But, yeah, there's nothing to do there.
- [48:58]
Randall Cobb
What are we going to do there?
- [49:08]
Matt Jones
Hey, this is Matt Jones and I'm.
- [49:10]
Drew Franklin
Drew Franklin, and this is NFL Cover Zero. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining, and twice a week, that is exactly what you're going to get. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different.
- [49:25]
Matt Jones
Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game.
- [49:28]
Drew Franklin
What was that?
- [49:29]
Matt Jones
Looks like something that should not be sold.
- [49:31]
Drew Franklin
Oh, my.
- [49:31]
Matt Jones
So that was my other big Colts takeaway.
- [49:33]
Drew Franklin
Sold that.
- [49:34]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
Yes.
- [49:34]
Matt Jones
Might want to go back at the Colts stadium. Yeah, I might want to go back to the drawing board on that.
- [49:38]
Drew Franklin
Yeah.
- [49:38]
Matt Jones
I thought the shape we have with pretzels was working pretty well for generations.
- [49:43]
Drew Franklin
We're just here trying to enjoy it. We hope you all will join us throughout the year. And let's go.
- [49:48]
Matt Jones
I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73.
- [49:51]
Drew Franklin
He is a young 73. He is spry.
- [49:54]
Matt Jones
I wouldn't fight him.
- [49:56]
Drew Franklin
I would listen NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
- [50:09]
Greg Rosenthal
Football is back. That's right, the new NFL season is here and you should be listening to NFL Daily as we march along to Super Bowl 60. This is a show for sickos like me. NFL Daily is your kind of show. It's in the name NFL Daily. You'll have fresh content in your feed all season long. Myself, Greg Rosenthal and an all star cast of co hosts will preview and recap every game all season long. Josh Allen coming off an MVP season.
- [50:36]
Play-by-play announcer
And now lateral to Allen and reaching for the pylon. Are you kidding me? It's a touchdown. Have you ever seen that one before?
- [50:45]
Greg Rosenthal
Rookies making a name for themselves.
- [50:49]
Play-by-play announcer
Bulldozer. He is bouncing off defenders and drag down.
- [50:54]
Greg Rosenthal
And of course, the Eagles trying to win another Lombardi.
- [50:57]
Randall Cobb
What a game, what a season, what a team. Eagles fans savor it and rejoice.
- [51:04]
Greg Rosenthal
Listen to NFL daily on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [51:11]
Daniel Jeremiah
What's up everybody? Daniel Jeremiah here and I'm Bucky Brooks. On Move the Sticks, we take you inside the game. From scouting reports and player development to.
- [51:19]
Bucky Brooks
Team building philosophies, coaching trends, and how front offices construct winning rosters.
- [51:24]
Daniel Jeremiah
Every week we study the tape, talk to decision makers and share the insights you won't find anywhere else.
- [51:30]
Bucky Brooks
It's the kind of conversation that connects the dots. From college football prospects to the NFL stars of tomorrow.
- [51:36]
Daniel Jeremiah
We break down the draft, analyze matchups, and evaluate how teams put it all together on game day.
- [51:42]
Bucky Brooks
Plus, we dig into coaching strategies, roster construction, and the trends that shape the league year after year.
- [51:48]
Daniel Jeremiah
Whether you're a die hard fan or just love understanding the game on a deeper level, we give you the full picture.
- [51:54]
Bucky Brooks
If you want insight that goes beyond the box score, this podcast is for you.
- [51:58]
Daniel Jeremiah
Don't miss it. Listen to the Move the Six podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [52:14]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
Now, you were out in la, you said last week you're on Good Morning Football and talk to us about what you were promoting.
- [52:21]
Randall Cobb
Yes, Special Forces. I'm on the Fox show.
- [52:23]
Matt Castle
You doing the show?
- [52:24]
Randall Cobb
He did the show. I did the show.
- [52:27]
Matt Castle
So I got asked to do the show.
- [52:28]
Randall Cobb
You should do it.
- [52:28]
Matt Castle
I'm not doing the show.
- [52:29]
Randall Cobb
You should do it.
- [52:29]
Matt Castle
I'm not doing the show. No, no, I'm not even saying that. But I have Friends that have done it, and they're like, dude, it's hard.
- [52:34]
Randall Cobb
Yes.
- [52:34]
Matt Castle
But you. Was it hard for you?
- [52:37]
Randall Cobb
The physical part? Not as much. It was. It was demanding. It was a lot. But at the same time, you have Real Housewives and, you know, influencers that.
- [52:46]
Matt Castle
Eric Decker, Jesse did it.
- [52:48]
Randall Cobb
Yes. All together, right, Andrew? Yes. So we. We. It was seven of us that live here in Nashville.
- [52:55]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
There's seven people from Nashville.
- [52:56]
Randall Cobb
Seven people from Nashville that were on the show.
- [52:59]
Matt Castle
Where'd you go?
- [53:00]
Randall Cobb
We were in Morocco. Beautiful. We were. I mean, as beautiful as it could be for. For what we were doing. But it was one of the most incredible experiences that I've ever done. It gave me a greater appreciation for the military. I've always had a tremendous amount of respect for the sacrifices that they make. But to be able to live it day after day after day, to be on edge and the feeling that you would have that you can't relax at any moment because with the show wind.
- [53:38]
Matt Castle
They call you at any time or they could just make something happen.
- [53:41]
Randall Cobb
They could make. Yeah, they could call you at any moment, and you would have to be on the parade square, you know, sometimes within two or three minutes. So if you got too comfortable and you kicked your boots off and you didn't fill up your water bottle, you didn't have your backpack packed to a certain weight, like, there would be consequences for that. Like, I got my whole water bottle, and I can't even remember the name of it, but I'm not supposed to call it a water bottle. I get in trouble for that. But you had to keep that full to the brim. If it wasn't full to the brim, they would take it out and pour it over your head.
- [54:20]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
So no water for you.
- [54:21]
Randall Cobb
And then you wouldn't have water. So it was like you had to make sure that you kept all your things prepared, because that's just. If you're called out for a mission, then you want to have every sip of water that you can have, because you don't know how long until you're going to be back in a safe place with safe water. So that was kind of. We would go through all these courses, but at the same time, you're living the psychological life of what someone in that position would.
- [54:52]
Matt Castle
How long were you gone?
- [54:54]
Randall Cobb
I can't tell you how long I was.
- [54:56]
Matt Castle
No, not on the show, but gone. Like, how. What did they tell you before you go?
- [54:59]
Randall Cobb
I was gone for two weeks. No contact with family. They took our phone the day before we started. Couldn't talk to my kids.
- [55:09]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
That has to be a psychological grind too.
- [55:11]
Randall Cobb
Yeah, yeah. I mean, which was great because you're walking into a new environment with a bunch of people. You know, some of us knew each other, but a bunch of people that you don't know. 18 contestants and you're learning about each other in the moment. And it really took me back to being a kid and having those moments. Cause, you know, like, now it's just you can ask chatgpt about anything. Right. So it's just, it's different meeting someone and getting to know them on a genuine level and then after the fact, going and reading about, you know, what happened in their life.
- [55:44]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
What was harder psychologically doing a two a day football camp or actually being on the show?
- [55:50]
Randall Cobb
Actually been on the show.
- [55:51]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
Really?
- [55:51]
Randall Cobb
Yes. Because, I mean, football's football.
- [55:53]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
You know, the expectation.
- [55:54]
Randall Cobb
You know, the expectation. You know what's coming. And a funny story from the show is, you know, sometimes you might have those two a days or you may have like that, that long, hard walkthrough that you're gonna do later in the day that coach, like, gives you a bone, throws you a bone. Well, I thought, like our DS was throwing us a bone one day. Come to find out that was not the case. And I took the bait and we all had to pay a punishment for it.
- [56:16]
Daniel Jeremiah
So.
- [56:16]
Randall Cobb
Yeah. Yeah.
- [56:17]
Matt Castle
Dang. Are you happy you did it?
- [56:19]
Randall Cobb
I am. I am. Will I ever do it again? No. But I am happy that I did it again. I thought that I was going to learn something about myself, and I just found out that I'm selfish to think that because it was about me finding out what the men and women that serve our country do. For us to have the freedom to have this conversation right now.
- [56:42]
Matt Castle
That's super cool.
- [56:43]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
That's really cool.
- [56:44]
Randall Cobb
Yeah.
- [56:45]
Matt Castle
My friend Jamie Lynn Spears did it the year before.
- [56:49]
Randall Cobb
Okay.
- [56:49]
Matt Castle
And she was like, hey, producer's gonna call you. And I had done a show like, I'm done. I did dance one stars.
- [56:55]
Randall Cobb
Yeah.
- [56:56]
Matt Castle
That's how I know Greg Jennings a little bit. Because he won.
- [56:58]
Randall Cobb
It was the same year.
- [56:59]
Matt Castle
No, I did it after. No, because I won too. Yeah, you won it. Yeah.
- [57:02]
Randall Cobb
So I just did it. He's won.
- [57:04]
Matt Castle
Yeah, I want to. But Greg won as well. And so there's like a bond. It's like trauma bonding of all the winners of that show that don't come from any background of dance. And so immediately, like, when I got on the show and then I started doing pretty well, Greg would hit me up on dm. He was like, yo, like, I'm proud. We didn't even know each other, but he's like, I know exactly what you're going through. And, yeah, it's like. Like, it's really weird. And you feel like you're isolated, but you come out with the people that you did it with, and it's not the same, but you're like, you know them better. You've been through some crap together. And that's what that show felt like a little bit, too. But we were gone for, like, four months.
- [57:39]
Randall Cobb
Did you get to stay in a luxury hotel when you were doing that?
- [57:41]
Matt Castle
I had to work, so, no. I had to stay in a tiny apartment away from everybody else, next to a studio because I had to work every morning.
- [57:46]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
You stayed in a tiny apartment?
- [57:48]
Matt Castle
Yeah. No, tiny, because I had to go live in a different part of the city. Nobody else on that show had to work while they were doing it.
- [57:55]
Randall Cobb
Gotcha.
- [57:55]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
That's true.
- [57:55]
Matt Castle
But me of Limited, I can't run fast, so I had to work. So I worked and I toured on the weekend. It was miserable.
- [58:02]
Randall Cobb
It was a lot.
- [58:02]
Matt Castle
It was a lot. What's Greg like as a dude?
- [58:04]
Randall Cobb
Greg was great.
- [58:06]
Matt Castle
Older.
- [58:08]
Randall Cobb
He was so. Greg was seven years older than me. Great. I learned so much from him. I learned so much watching him play, watching the way that he moved, he ran routes. Watching him as a dad.
- [58:23]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
Like, great dad.
- [58:24]
Randall Cobb
Great dad.
- [58:24]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
I was with him in Minnesota.
- [58:26]
Randall Cobb
Yeah. Great dad. Like, he was a role model for me. I don't know if he knows that or not, but I watched every move he made. He walked into anywhere. I'm watching the way that he talks to people. I'm watching the way that he operated. His football knowledge was through the roof. He. He was great.
- [58:49]
Matt Castle
That's. That's cool. Yeah, he's always been super cool to me.
- [58:52]
Randall Cobb
Yeah.
- [58:52]
Matt Castle
Yeah. Thanks for coming over, man. This has been awesome.
- [58:54]
Randall Cobb
Yeah.
- [58:55]
Matt Castle
Did you two never played together, huh?
- [58:56]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
We never played together.
- [58:57]
Randall Cobb
No. No, no. Cross the path.
- [59:01]
Matt Castle
I saw you in a picture of his. I don't know, is it a school thing? And you were like, I'm here. You guys are both at the same school event or something?
- [59:08]
Randall Cobb
Yeah. Throwing water.
- [59:09]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
Water balloon.
- [59:10]
Matt Castle
Tell me about that.
- [59:13]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
I got him good. So. So he was trying to scheme it up to get me back so bad. He had Decker try to come tackle me. I mean, I hit Clay Matthews in the chest, and I thought he was going to straight kill me. He was so mad at me. Did you see what. Oh, yeah, you were right there.
- [59:28]
Randall Cobb
Yeah, he Does.
- [59:29]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
He was so mad. But I just.
- [59:31]
Randall Cobb
That was.
- [59:32]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
That's one of my joys, is to go to that outdoor field day, and I get these water balloons, and anybody that. That doesn't expect it to come. I mean, I crush newcomers, too. So Cobb came out there how you like, natural.
- [59:45]
Randall Cobb
It's been great. Yeah, it's been great. I love, you know, just the community, just like you said, just the school that we at. We have a lot of families with similar backgrounds and understanding of life, and it's been fun. I've. I've enjoyed it. My kids are thriving here. They love it. They. This is the first place that they've been for a calendar year in school, so they've enjoyed that.
- [60:08]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
Isn't that wild?
- [60:08]
Randall Cobb
Yes.
- [60:09]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
Like, when they finally get somewhere and you, like, when are we moving? Where are we going next? Yeah, like, no, this is home.
- [60:14]
Randall Cobb
This is it. This is where we are.
- [60:16]
Matt Castle
You said you played tennis, not pickleball. You're a tennis player.
- [60:19]
Randall Cobb
I just got in. My wife got into it, and I, like, got into it with her, and I was like, oh, that's kind of fun.
- [60:26]
Interviewer (possibly Cassidy or co-host)
You just play in the league.
- [60:28]
Randall Cobb
We actually played. Played in a mixed doubles match. And, like, you know me, I'm thinking, roll the ball out there. It doesn't matter what the sport is. Like, we're getting ready to go, you know? No, we. We got drilled. We got drilled in those matches. I was like, okay, give me five years. Okay. Yeah.
- [60:44]
Matt Castle
Randall, good to see you, man.
- [60:45]
Randall Cobb
Thanks. Thank you so much. Thanks.
- [60:48]
Matt Castle
All right, thanks to Randall Cobb for coming in. That's Matt Castle. That's Kickoff.
- [60:52]
Randall Cobb
Kevin.
- [60:53]
Matt Castle
That's Brandon Ray.
- [60:54]
Randall Cobb
I'm Bobby Bones.
- [60:55]
Matt Castle
Thank you so much for watching. And if you don't mind, I guess the one ask. I don't ask for much, but I'll make this one ask if you enjoyed this episode. Maybe you're a Packer fan. Maybe you're a Randall Cobb fan. Maybe you're just an NFL fan. You don't mind sharing this episode of your story, being like, hey, here's a podcast. You guys should check it out. NFL podcast. That would help us a ton because we depend on you guys and we'd like to keep doing it. So thank you. We will see you next week. We've had lots to say.
- [61:19]
Randall Cobb
Goodbye, everybody. Foreign.
- [61:25]
Matt Castle
Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is a production of the NFL and iHeart podcasts. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [61:37]
Randall Cobb
Hey, this is Matt Jones and I'm.
- [61:39]
Drew Franklin
Drew Franklin, and this is NFL Cover Zero. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different.
- [61:47]
Matt Jones
Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game.
- [61:50]
Drew Franklin
What was that? Oh, my. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining. And twice a week, that is exactly what you're gonna get. Listen NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
- [62:10]
Greg Rosenthal
Football is back. That's right. The new NFL season is here and you should be listening to NFL Daily as we march along to the Super Bowl 60. It's in the name NFL Daily, so you'll have fresh content in your feed all season long. Join me, Greg Rosenthal, in an all star cast, a co host for previews and recaps of every single game. NFL Daily will keep you up to date with everything you need to know so you can sound smarter than all your friends. Listen to NFL daily on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [62:41]
Daniel Jeremiah
Hey, everybody. Daniel Jeremiah here and I'm Bucky Brooks. On Move the Six, we take you inside the game. From breaking down college football, college prospects.
- [62:49]
Randall Cobb
And NFL rookies to evaluating team building.
- [62:51]
Bucky Brooks
Philosophies, coaching trends, and how front offices construct winning rosters.
- [62:55]
Daniel Jeremiah
We study the tape, talk to decision makers, and give you a perspective you won't find anywhere else.
- [63:01]
Bucky Brooks
It's everything you need to understand the why behind what happens on Sundays.
- [63:06]
Daniel Jeremiah
Don't miss it. Listen to the Move the Sticks podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [63:14]
Randall Cobb
This is an iHeart podcast.