Lots to Say: New #1 team, Flacco to Bengals, and Clutch QBs!

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Lots to Say" — New #1 Team, Flacco to Bengals, and Clutch QBs!

Show: The Bobby Bones Show
Host: Bobby Bones
Co-Hosts: Matt Castle, Kevin
Date: October 8, 2025
Episode Theme:
This episode dives deep into the current NFL landscape, including new power rankings, Joe Flacco joining the Bengals, discussions about clutch quarterbacks, and memorable football mishaps. Hosts Bobby Bones and NFL veteran Matt Castle bring insight, humor, and personal anecdotes, rounding out the football talk with family stories, team rivalries, and a candid look at betting blunders.

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1. Personal Updates & Family Life (00:45–06:41)

• Matt Castle shares excitement over his daughters reaching the state level in high school volleyball, coached by his wife (an ex-USC standout).
• Discussion on parenting styles and the joys of watching their kids find success.
• Bobby Bones opens up about his pregnant wife's unpredictable cravings and sleeping habits, bringing levity and relatable humor to family dynamics.

Memorable moment:

“It's hard to do predictive text with my pregnant wife because I don't even think she knows what she's going to want until she is like, ‘I don't want that.’”
— Bobby Bones (03:20)

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2. NFL Power Rankings: Week Overview (06:49–13:53)

Bobby Bones’ Power Rankings (07:01–11:39)

6. Indianapolis Colts (Honorable Mention):

• Fun to watch, led by Daniel Jones and Jonathan Taylor.
• Only real “quality win” against Broncos keeps them out of the top 5.

5. Jacksonville Jaguars:

• Clutch MNF win over the Chiefs.
• Highlight: Trevor Lawrence’s dramatic two-minute drill.

“I hate their colors...the Jaguar is not like a cool Jaguar. Looks like you just dropped a bucket of paint.”
— Bobby Bones (09:32)

4. Buffalo Bills:

• Despite 11+ penalties, still tough and competitive.

3. Detroit Lions:

• Dan Campbell praised for leadership.
• Dynamic backfield with Gibson and Montgomery.

2. Philadelphia Eagles:

• "Getting away with ugly victories" but remain stacked with talent on both sides.

1. Tampa Bay Buccaneers:

• Baker Mayfield lauded for late-game heroics and clutch performances.
• Team consistently wins close games.

Discussion: Clutch QBs

• Baker Mayfield’s four comeback wins.
• Is there any QB you’d prefer with 48 seconds left?

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3. The Issue With the Panthers (13:10–14:52)

• Both Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield excelled—after leaving Carolina.
• Reflections on team management and organization, referencing past Panthers roster choices.

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4. Costly Player Mistakes & Coaching Reacts (13:57–18:10)

• Arizona Cardinals RB’s fumble before crossing the goal line draws coach Jonathan Gannon’s ire; sparks debate on coach-player boundaries.
• Why do players drop the ball prematurely? It usually happens on long, open runs, not short-yardage plays.

Notable exchange:

“You can never put your hand on a player like that. That just looks ridiculous.”
— Matt Castle (14:29)

“It's always breakaway. It's never like you said, you're at the goal line...They've been running for so long, and they know that this is a highlight.”
— Matt Castle (16:56)

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5. Joe Flacco Joins the Bengals (18:10–24:56)

• Flacco expected to stabilize the Bengals, predicted to add 3–4 wins.
• Browning’s struggles recapped.
• Flacco suits the Bengals’ pocket-passing scheme and brings veteran decision-making.
• Matt Castle explains what’s needed for a QB to quickly learn a new system (protections and terminology).
• Discussion on “dumbing down” playbooks for new QBs and the mental challenge of starting for big franchises like the Cowboys.

Memorable quote:

“If a new quarterback goes in and they're expected to play quickly, will they somewhat hybrid or even dumb down the offense that week for the quarterback?”
— Bobby Bones (20:59)

“100%... They simplify the game plan to a certain point... you can go out there and be successful.”
— Matt Castle (21:07)

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6. Internet Armchair Quarterbacks & Media Takes (25:00–26:09)

• Bobby reflects on social media criticism of their football knowledge.
• Amusing exchange on the pitfalls of online sports commentary.

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7. Ranking the Best Two-Minute Drill QBs (26:19–29:13)

• Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson named as top choices.
• Baker Mayfield praised by Matt Castle for current clutch performance — even over the usual elite.
• Jalen Hurts and Matt Stafford join the discussion.
• Humorous aside about Kyler Murray’s running style:

“He looks like a toddler running ... Like a kid who's running off in Walmart from their parent.”
— Bobby Bones (28:16)

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8. Betting Talk & Upcoming NFL Weekend Picks (29:13–33:06)

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• Bobby discusses his aggressive but honest approach to betting—wins and losses shared.
• Picks for biggest NFL games:
  • 49ers at Bucs: Both pick Tampa Bay and Baker as game-changer, despite Mac Jones’ recent performance (31:23).
  • Lions at Chiefs: Both lean toward the Lions, questioning KC’s offensive identity minus Rashee Rice (34:38).
  • Seahawks at Jaguars: Matt picks Seattle for defensive rebounding and Sam Darnold’s steady play (35:38).

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9. Bill Belichick Doc Gets Canceled & NCAA Updates (38:34–41:42)

• Discussion on Hulu canceling Belichick’s docu-series due to underwhelming storyline at North Carolina.
• Predictions for Belichick's future and how his competitive spirit might fuel a bounce-back year.
• Dialogue about Indiana and Oregon in college football; observations about team dynamics and talent.

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10. NFL MVP Race & Betting Odds (41:42–43:49)

• Hosts speculate on MVP frontrunners: Baker Mayfield, Dak Prescott, Daniel Jones, Josh Allen, Mahomes, Jalen Hurts, and others.
• Betting odds for MVP discussed—Baker Mayfield and Dak Prescott seen as strong value bets.
• Lively banter about likelihood and payouts, with humor about “little bets”.

Quote:

“If they win 10, 11 games with a bad defense... [Dak Prescott’s] playing out of his mind.”
— Bobby Bones (42:32)

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11. Notable Quotes & Moments

• “It's cool. I like it. The parody right now in the league is tremendous.”
  — Bobby Bones & Matt Castle (07:15)
• “Live to bet another day.”
  — Matt Castle (38:31)

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12. Wrap-Up & Teasers (43:52–44:41)

• Episode clocked at nearly 50 minutes.
• Teases upcoming interview with Dallas Clark—described as possibly the show’s best yet.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Personal life updates: 00:45–06:41
• Power rankings discussion: 07:01–13:53
• Coaching/player mishap recap: 13:57–18:10
• Flacco/Bengals segment: 18:10–24:56
• Internet critics/media: 25:00–26:09
• 2-minute drill QB ranking: 26:19–29:13
• NFL picks & betting talk: 29:13–33:06, 37:10–38:34, 41:42–43:49
• Belichick doc & NCAA football: 38:34–41:42

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Overall Tone:
Casual, witty, football-obsessed, and infused with genuine camaraderie and playful teasing. The hosts blend serious analysis with good-natured storytelling, drawing from both pro-level experience and fan-level enthusiasm.

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For Listeners:
Even if you missed the episode, this summary delivers all the major insights, lively debates, and football wisdom—plus, a few family laughs and sharp predictions for the weeks ahead.

Transcript

[Bobby Bones]

This is an iHeart podcast. Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is a production of the NFL and iHeart podcasts.

[Intro Announcer]

We got lots to say? We got lots to say? We're glad you're here and we hope you stay? Cause we got lots to say. Yeah, we got lots to say. Now here's Bobby and.

[Kevin]

Oh, yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Welcome to the show. There's a lot. We got a lot to say. We got a lot to say. So I'm just gonna let you go first. You go with whatever you want to talk about. What do you want to talk about?

[Matt Castle]

What Castle want to talk about? Just in general, like, life.

[Bobby Bones]

Whatever you want, man.

[Matt Castle]

I mean, I'm pretty stoked right now that my two oldest girls are on varsity playing volleyball. One district last week just won last night to be able to go to state, and I think this is the first time they've going to state as a high school, so it's a pretty big deal. Now they've got two more games this week to decide their seating.

[Bobby Bones]

But are they so good?

[Matt Castle]

They're really good. The whole entire team. They got six seniors on this team, so it's been so much fun to go watch this team compete and the fact that they won the district and now they're in regionals and they're making their way to state, so it's just. It's exciting because it's. You know, how it goes. It's a long season, and they've been kicking butt.

[Bobby Bones]

Dude.

[Matt Castle]

And taking names.

[Bobby Bones]

Your wife, excellent volleyball player at usc?

[Matt Castle]

Yes, that is correct.

[Bobby Bones]

Does she crack the whip on him or.

[Matt Castle]

No, she's actually helping coach the varsity team. She's an assistant coach on the varsity.

[Bobby Bones]

Is she hard?

[Kevin]

What coach is she?

[Matt Castle]

That's what she is. The reserved players coach. Yeah, players coach. Very supportive. Doesn't really raise her voice. I think probably because she's seen so much during her playing days, and she's still traumatized by some of her coaches for yelling at her that she takes a different approach. But sometimes I even tell her I was like, I need to see a little fire out of you. I need to see you light up and get after somebody. But that's not her personality. She's just there, cool, calm, customer. A lot of poise over there.

[Bobby Bones]

How do your daughters do playing for their mom?

[Matt Castle]

I think because of my wife's temperament, they really enjoy it because they look up to my wife, and I think that that's why they followed in her footsteps. And my wife's never been one of those people that Cracks the whip or tries to P them or. Or you've got to do this, that, and the other. If they ask, she gives feedback, but it's never like, you need to get out there and, you know, do your hip exercises or you're not snapping your wrist. She gives coaching tips, and that's what she'll do, and that's how she presents it to everybody. So I think that they really appreciate it.

[Bobby Bones]

With me, my wife's pregnant, and it's every. Let's go two or three days, there's a different kind of craving. Like, I can't just meet it with. I'll predict your cravings. I know that you're big into ice cream right now, or I know that you like a whole lot of vegetables and savory. Because if I do that, it changes in a day. Or she's like, oh, I can't even think about looking at another asparagus. I'm like, but no, that's all you've wanted for two days. Like, you've wanted nonstop asparagus. So I bought all this asparagus to have it ready for you. And she's like, no, give it to somebody else. Because I cannot even look at anything that's even related to the asparagus. I. I think now I need gummy bears. So I can't really predict. And it's hard because I want to be there and make sure that I'm able to provide her with what she wants. But it's hard to do predictive text with my pregnant wife because I don't even think she knows what she's going to want until she is like, I don't want that. Is there any way you can drive? I know it doesn't deliver, but there is a. An Italian place that's 41 minutes away. And you know what I do? I get in my freaking car.

[Matt Castle]

Do you really?

[Bobby Bones]

And I drive across town and I pick up whatever it is and I bring it back.

[Matt Castle]

I'm proud of you. That's a good husband. Because when they're pregnant, I'm just going to be honest. At least in my experience, they're emotionally unstable, and food is their soothing mechanism. So if we can provide something to take off the stress and their attention goes there. You're like, okay, I'll go get whatever you want. Plus, every now and then, you need a break to get out of the house for a second.

[Bobby Bones]

I gotta say, she was really sick. So she just stayed in the bed for a month at least. But now she's pretty aware when she is feeling unstable. So she's able to counter that.

[Matt Castle]

I like that.

[Bobby Bones]

It's nice, because it's really not that difficult. The only thing is she doesn't, like, want me, like, hugging on her or kissing on or anything.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah. Oh, no. No chance, dude.

[Bobby Bones]

And me, I'm trying to meet that with, like, oh, come here. I know you don't feel good, so let me just give. She's like, no, no, no. Don't. Don't. Don't touch me.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, that. That's an ongoing battle. And especially as she gets a little bit bigger, you're kind of like, maybe I don't want to touch you today.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Not going to lie. I love you.

[Matt Castle]

I'll kiss that cheek. But my wife used to have this. This pillow, and it. It was literally would wrap around her stomach. She'd hold it there, and then it would wrap all the way around her butt. And I was like, there's no chance that I even get to cuddle. Like, it was just a. It was a comfort thing for her. And I was like, I don't even. I don't even know how to get close in the bed.

[Bobby Bones]

There are. I'm gonna say now it's about 40% of the time she has me go sleep in a different room because she'll wake up so much at night that she also is like, if I'm waking up so much, I'm waking you up, and you have to go to work, but you're gonna be grumpy all day when I need you, like, not being grumpy for me. So before we go to bed, she'll be like, I think it's a night. You need to go upstairs.

[Matt Castle]

Oh, wow. Thoughtful.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you?

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Matt Castle]

But if I'm.

[Bobby Bones]

Kind of feels like I'm getting kicked out, though.

[Matt Castle]

You are.

[Kevin]

You are.

[Matt Castle]

She's like, actually, I want to stay up. I want to watch some shows. I want to do my thing, and then I just want to want to go to sleep. And you're like, why don't you go to bed in the other room?

[Bobby Bones]

I. I.

[Matt Castle]

Do you ever push back?

[Bobby Bones]

No. I get early. I would be like, I can't believe you want me to leave the room. Like, I'm your husband. You're that way because of me. I tried that a couple of times. No, not anymore. I just. Now I go upstairs and I get. I sleep in the guest room. I've kind of put a couple things up there. Now it kind of feels like my room a little bit. Like, you know, a little.

[Matt Castle]

Few Posters.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Matt Castle]

Bonos. Bonos.

[Bobby Bones]

The shoulder pads with the back. 100. Yeah. She has a pregnancy pillow. It's different than the one that you explained, probably for a different reason, but it's very long. It's like, if you were to open it all the way up, it's probably like five feet long. And it's like a tube, but you kind of wrap it, and it looks like legs. Right. And so she's had to get two because I took the first one. It's awesome.

[Matt Castle]

I know. I'm not going to lie.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Matt Castle]

Every now and then, I'd sneak in there for a nap or something. You grab it. You're like, man, this is super comfortable.

[Bobby Bones]

It is amazing. So, yeah, that's what's happening over here. All right, let's bounce back and forth. Would you like to go first as we do our list of three?

[Matt Castle]

You know what? I would like you to go first. This. This. This week.

[Bobby Bones]

That's kind of you. Because I never want to take yours. Cause you're usually sitting on one. You're fired up, ready to go.

[Matt Castle]

No, no, I like it when you take mine, and then I'll pivot and not only have two this week.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, that's a good point. You can just have to. I do. I did make my new power rankings of NFL teams this week, and this has been the most difficult power rankings.

[Matt Castle]

To make this season has been the most difficult power rankings because there's so much unpredictability in this season.

[Bobby Bones]

And it's cool. I like it.

[Matt Castle]

I love it.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I do. I love it.

[Matt Castle]

The parody right now in the league is tremendous.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, so honorable mention at 6, but honorable mention is the Colts.

[Matt Castle]

Hell, yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

The only reason that I don't have them in the top five, I enjoy watching them as much as any team because like I've said before, I like Daniel Jones. Jonathan Taylor's awesome.

[Matt Castle]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, he scored three touchdowns this week.

[Matt Castle]

He's an absolute.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, he. We knew how good he was, but to see him play on a good team, he's able now to not have all nine guys watching him.

[Matt Castle]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

That. That are anywhere near the line. They got to pay to Tyler Warren. They got to watch Michael Pittman Jr.

[Matt Castle]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

And so it's been nice. I put him at 6. The only reason that I have them at 6 and not higher with their record is they really. They played the Raiders, the Titans, the Dolphins. Yes, they did beat the Broncos. That's their one quality win.

[Matt Castle]

Quality win. And they lost to the Rams, but they lost by seven. Points. And that was it.

[Bobby Bones]

That was a good loss.

[Matt Castle]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

But nobody's undefeated, so they're 4 and 1. Their only quality win is the Broncos. It's my favorite team to watch right now is the Colts. That's six honorable mention. And number five and jumping into the list for the first time and they have two really good wins is the Jacksonville Jaguars.

[Matt Castle]

Yes, Jacksonville.

[Bobby Bones]

Like they just nutted out that win against the Monday night Kansas City Monday Night Football.

[Matt Castle]

And then also Trevor Lawrence. Backs against the wall, two minute drill. It's the one. Brian Thomas Jr. Down the sideline. That ball was a perfectly thrown ball. And then the second throw as well.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, fell down, got back up.

[Matt Castle]

That was remarkable. Touchdown run. I'm not gonna lie.

[Bobby Bones]

Remarkable that nobody got to him to touch him while he was down.

[Matt Castle]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

A lot of money on that game, I'll be honest. And I was like, somebody touched him. Come on. And nobody. Nobody touched him.

[Matt Castle]

And he's super athletic, but he ran a lot.

[Bobby Bones]

And he ran through the middle a lot. Oh, yeah.

[Matt Castle]

He took some hits too.

[Bobby Bones]

He did. So I'm putting Jacksonville at 5 because. Well, I hate their colors.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, they're a tough color.

[Bobby Bones]

It's ugly.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Does everybody. Do you agree their uniforms are ugly or is it just me?

[Kevin]

The throwbacks were awesome.

[Bobby Bones]

Wait, this week? Yeah, I hate them. I hate all their. I hate the colors.

[Kevin]

But the normal ones. Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

It's a bad green or blue or whatever that is.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Matt Castle]

Turquoise.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't know.

[Matt Castle]

What is it?

[Kevin]

Let's see.

[Matt Castle]

Let's see.

[Bobby Bones]

And the Jaguar is not like a cool Jaguar. It's like too much. Looks like you just dropped a bucket of paint. And that's what. I just don't like it.

[Kevin]

British Racing green.

[Bobby Bones]

That's what I was going to say.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, I knew that. I should have picked that color.

[Bobby Bones]

And number four, the Buffalo Bills.

[Matt Castle]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

You could easily put them anywhere. One, two, three or four. Wasn't a great. They should have won that game because New England gave them every opportunity to win the game.

[Matt Castle]

Gave them every opportunity.

[Bobby Bones]

Penalty after penalty.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, they had every 11 or 12 penalties in that game. They didn't play sound football at times. And then Drake May has coming out party. I mean, that kid is good.

[Bobby Bones]

He's good. Before three, the Lions coordinator is what?

[Matt Castle]

Dan Campbell's the man nobody needs. Who needs coordinators?

[Bobby Bones]

He doesn't need coordinators. Yeah, he should have just hired nobody in.

[Matt Castle]

Dan Campbell just needs to stand up and talk to the team and then the offense can go out and call their own Plays and just still dominate people.

[Bobby Bones]

Dan Campbell should just send him a text and then stay home and just let them go do their thing.

[Matt Castle]

Gibson, Montgomery, too. Those two together in the backfield, Are you kidding me?

[Bobby Bones]

Number two, the Eagles, they're still, they're.

[Matt Castle]

Still one of the top teams in my opinion, even though they, they've been getting away with some ugly victories. They obviously lost to Denver this last week, but at the same time, they, they'll figure out how to win ball games and they've got enough players all around, all pros, all over that field, on both sides of the ball, that they're going to be fine.

[Bobby Bones]

And at number one their first week, holding that number one spot. And I laughed so hard to watch Baker Mayfield talking to that Seahawks fan before the game because Baker, it's fun for him.

[Matt Castle]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

I didn't feel like there was anything where like he actually wanted to fight the guy. No, it wasn't right. Do you guys agree, like with Baker, you don't feel like he's going to hop off and run or test somebody?

[Kevin]

No. It's all like competitive.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Yeah. And he, like, he enjoys it. And then after he came back to that fan when he was coming back through like the Bucks and what Baker's able to do, they went ugly, but they win. And I'm starting to think every time Baker has the ball at the end of the game, like, give him 48 seconds and he's going to make it happen. I have the Bucks at number one.

[Matt Castle]

It's four wins now and that was going to be one of my talking points. But do you want any other quarterback other than him?

[Bobby Bones]

Take it.

[Matt Castle]

Two minute dribble.

[Bobby Bones]

Let's go to your talking point because that's my list. Go ahead.

[Matt Castle]

I know, but I totally agree with you because he gets the ball in that situation and there's no flinching. Everybody believes in him and he goes on. And he's won four of these type games thus far this season. And the performance that he had against the Seahawks, who's been playing good defense up to this point, I mean, he missed three throws all day. He threw for over 370 yards, four touchdowns, and then ends it with the two minute drill again and brings his team to victory. It's awesome to watch.

[Bobby Bones]

I do want to say shout out Sam Darnold.

[Matt Castle]

Oh, what a game.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Because I think a little gets lost that Baker is the louder of the two and Baker won the game. And Baker, like you said, has won four of those games. But a lot of people were hey, Sam Darnold is leaving Kevin o'. Connell. He's probably going. He's probably. They're spending a bunch of money, and he's really not going to flourish in Seattle. Sam Darnold's good.

[Matt Castle]

He's really good. And he's shown that week in a week out. Even this last game against the Bucks, we've got a good defense. He goes out there, basically matches Baker's stats. He had the one interception late that really. That's what led to them going on that drive. But at the end of the day, he has been phenomenal and put this. This team in a position to win every single week. And I think he's silenced a lot of the critics and proven to a lot of people he wasn't just a system guy. He's got the skill set, the mentality to go lead and be a franchise quarterback.

[Bobby Bones]

Isn't it funny to see when they list that old Panthers roster, when it's Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield as two of the quarterbacks on the roster? Chuba Hubbard, DJ Moore, like, this is all the Panthers. That shows you that's the Panthers fault.

[Matt Castle]

Panthers. And that's.

[Bobby Bones]

It's an organizational. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, what up? What up?

[Matt Castle]

Hey.

[Bobby Bones]

Keep pounding.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, yeah. Just keep growing. We learn from our mistakes. I promise.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm rooting for the Panthers, but David Tepper, not really a great owner, I don't think. Yeah, I think.

[Matt Castle]

I don't really think. I don't know.

[Bobby Bones]

I'd like to buy part of the team.

[Kevin]

McCaffrey, too.

[Bobby Bones]

And Christian McCaffrey. He was hurt a lot. To be fair, he couldn't stay on the field. But to be honest, I think maybe I wouldn't want to stay on the field either if that were the case.

[Matt Castle]

Who's playing quarterback this week? Oh, no. Gosh.

[Bobby Bones]

All right, you're up.

[Matt Castle]

All right. Did you see the Cardinals running back, Amari?

[Bobby Bones]

I didn't see it. What happened?

[Matt Castle]

And it's crazy because the week before, actually, in the Colts game, the week before, when they lost to the Rams, it was the same thing. I think it was Mitchell that had a 75 yard or something like that and drops the ball before he goes through it. It's a touchback. They end up losing by seven. But this is a team that's going down to go up 28 to six in the fourth. And then did you see the interaction between Jonathan Gannon.

[Bobby Bones]

Talk about that, because he hit him and now he's apologized. But what do you think?

[Matt Castle]

I think it was an overreaction emotions got the best of you, but you never put your hands on a player even that circumstance. Every. He. He obviously understands what he did and he. There's nobody that's going to be more embarrassed and devastated than that. Than him. It costs the team, literally. They know that the actual Titans were going to come back and win it.

[Bobby Bones]

It cost him the game.

[Matt Castle]

It cost him the game. And so I think it was just. He feels the pressure being the head coach of this team. They've lost three games now on last, last second field goals. They're a team that I thought early on this season could potentially contend for the NFC west just because of the squad that they have and Kyler Murray and I think that they did really well in the draft. But it's those type of plays that they don't. They can't make that mistake because their margin for error is so small. So I understand why the head coach got heated, but you can never put your hand on a player like that. That's. That just looks ridiculous.

[Bobby Bones]

Can you talk to me about why players want to get rid of the ball so fast? It's like, ah, touch the line. Like why? Because I think I would never let go of the ball if I scored a touchdown. I'd be like, you're coming back with me, baby.

[Matt Castle]

It's unexcusable. I mean, at the end of the day, finish the play in the end zone. There's. And I don't know if it's showboating, I don't know if it's one of those things that these guys have done it so many times and run into the end zone and then just drop the ball and went to celebrate. But you have to understand where you are on the field and be able to just complete the play. And it's not like this hasn't happened. It usually happens once a year and you've seen it and it's something that's not really talked about or addressed by the head coach.

[Bobby Bones]

Really. It doesn't get addressed.

[Matt Castle]

It really does. Unless it's your team. Right. Because it's one of those plays that you should know playing football for as long as we have that you have to get in the end zone and then spike it, dance, do whatever you want to do, but just never to the point to where you get so nonchalant with the ball, where you drop it and it costs your team.

[Bobby Bones]

I have a theory and it is. Isn't a fully formulated theory, but you never see people do that when it's a 7 yard, a 12 yard, a 2 yard touchdown run.

[Matt Castle]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

It only happens when it's like 40 or 50 and you're wide open. You got a lot of time to think. Yeah, I've never seen anyone drop the ball an inch a yard before. If like their mind is only on scoring, it's when your mind is able to be on other things because you have so much. They're always breakaway.

[Matt Castle]

They're always breakaway. It's never like you said, you're at the goal line, you break outside and you're, you've got that walk and you're completing the play. Right. It's. They've been running for so long and they know that this is a highlight.

[Bobby Bones]

And we're already thinking about it. Right?

[Matt Castle]

They already know like, oh my gosh, this is amazing. I just ran for 75 yard touchdown. It's like, all right, now, now What?

[Bobby Bones]

At like 50 yards in, they're like, oh, here it is baby. I look at the jumbotron, nobody's behind me. I got it. I'm about to throw.

[Matt Castle]

Woo.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh no.

[Matt Castle]

Oh no, no.

[Bobby Bones]

It's that TikTok. Oh no. Oh no, no, no, no, no.

[Matt Castle]

Such a great TikTok. But then you also to, to be fair to him, they intercept the ball late in that game and the safety fumbles not. He was not contacted, he was not touched. And he fumbles the ball into the end zone. The Titans recover in the end zone for another touchdown. I mean, it was just a comedy of errors at that point. I was just like, oh my gosh.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, next up. I'm glad to say it, I'm happy to report it. You probably saw it yesterday. Joe Flacco to the Bengals.

[Kevin]

Let's go.

[Matt Castle]

Let's go, Joe.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, I think that Joe Flacco to the Bengals will win them three or four games more than they would have won. They just need somebody serviceable back there.

[Matt Castle]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

And Flacco is serviceable. Flacco's not going to win them a Super bowl, but they gave Browning a shot multiple weeks. It's been a disaster.

[Matt Castle]

It really has. And I feel bad for him.

[Bobby Bones]

Me too. It's been a disaster. I think Flacco can go in with Higgins, with Jamar Chase with. And I think they can win some games. So I'm excited. I like Cincinnati. I want to see Cincinnati win some games and also I want to see what happens in that division. Baltimore lost again.

[Matt Castle]

Baltimore historically bad defense. I cannot believe what I'm watching.

[Bobby Bones]

And Baltimore's bad defense with no Lamar, which is what happened it's the Bengals now.

[Matt Castle]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, that's what it is. I am so pumped to see that the Bengals went and got them a quarterback. And I think, I know, I think they can win seven games now. Listen, they're not going to make the playoffs, but I think they can win seven or eight games now.

[Matt Castle]

Well, you also look at the system that they run. They don't really rely on a quarterback to have to get out of the pocket and do all that. They, with Joe Burrow, they were a pocket passing team. And if they can get somebody like Flacco to come in and play within that system, that's. That's right in his lane. And then you, like you mentioned the weapons, he'll be able to give them a lift offensively and make the correct decision because he's been doing it forever and he's a guy that I think you have a lot of trust in to go out, make the right decision, put your team in, in the right position to go out and win games. But especially with that talent that they have out on the outside.

[Bobby Bones]

How long until it is Flacco? So he's played in a lot of places. I think his, his learning curve is probably going to be not as hard because he has played multiple systems, multiple places. How long until he can actually understand all the offense?

[Matt Castle]

I think it goes with what in your past have you done? Have you been in that type of system before, particularly in protections, because protections are always called. You could be in a jet protection, you could be in a number protection, you could be in all different types of protection. So what type of protection scheme do you have you run before in the past? In addition to that, how much of the terminology in terms of route concepts carry over from what you've done previously? Because there's subtle changes in every offense. So it's a matter of what experience he's had in the system before and is it something that he's done. If he has, he's got experience, he can go out and play pretty quickly. But if he hasn't, it's going to take him a few weeks to get up to speed and actually understand the offense in its entirety.

[Bobby Bones]

If a new quarterback goes in and they're expected to play quickly, will they somewhat hybrid or even dumb down the offense that week for the quarterback?

[Matt Castle]

100%. You'll go in and you'll meet with the offensive coordinator. And I did it actually in Dallas. I was there for two weeks before I actually made my first start. And this was a completely different system under Jason Garrett that I'd ever run before in Scott Linehan. So it was a number system with different types of protection schemes. And I was like, wow, my head was blown. I was in the office all day, every day, studying until 10 o' clock at night, just trying to figure out the number system and make sure that I could relate it conceptually to something that I did in the past. And so when I did get the first start, a lot of the conversation was, what are you comfortable with? And then it's the situational stuff. Two minute drill, two by two, three by one. Do you like certain concepts more than another? And so they simplify the game plan to a certain point, not so dramatically that you don't have enough bullets in the gun, but to where you've run this concept before, you're familiar with it, and you feel like you can go out there and be successful.

[Bobby Bones]

I want to just switch to the Cowboys for a second. When you are starting for the Cowboys your first game, is it pretty cool to see yourself in that uniform?

[Matt Castle]

It was awesome. I mean, because I grew up a Dallas Cowboys fan, because I told you my dad grew up in Texas. And so it was a little bit surreal. And we were playing the Giants. Now, the day itself didn't go too well. I got it picked off quite a few times. But we, yeah, it was one of those where maybe I should have told him another play that I liked. But we battled back. I threw some, through some touchdowns. But all in all, just putting on that uniform, there's a mystique to it. And also if you grew up in the 90s like I did, watching them and understanding that was your childhood dream, to play not only in the NFL, but also putting on that star, it's, it's something pretty special.

[Bobby Bones]

That's pretty cool. I guess the other thing is whenever you're having to learn all of this and you go out for the first time, and the key to me in any sort of performance, if it's comedy or music or live television or live radio, is, and it's the most elementary thing, is to keep my heart rate down, because I think better when my heart rate is down. That's natural. If your heart rate's lifted, you're in lizard brain and you're, you're reacting more than you're responding and there's a massive difference to the two. But when you have to go in and it's such, it's, it's so high impact, it's so fast and you're supposed to remember all this where there are times you just kind of reverted back in your own head to, okay, this is too much, and I learned too much. Let me just. Okay, you run this route. You run this route and just kind of. You have to just take a second and do it old school in the huddle.

[Matt Castle]

No, it's never like you change the play. And that. That's the biggest challenge, I think, for any quarterback going into a new system that gets traded and put into that situation is you're thinking a lot because it just. It doesn't. It's not second nature yet. So you're trying to comprehend, okay, what did this relate to before on my pass and try to put this all together while deciphering what the defense is doing, getting the protection call out. And as you said, every 40 seconds, it's going off like clockwork. And you're. And so there's an overwhelming sense, but once you make a few plays in the game, I think it's helpful to calm your nerves down a little bit. Because every game when you go out, there's that intensity of the first series or two that the speed of the game is revved up. And then all of a sudden, you start to settle in, you start to understand what the defense is doing, and then you can have that conversation, too on the sideline, like, hey, I didn't really know what I was doing right there.

[Bobby Bones]

I guess that's not fair.

[Matt Castle]

Let's get back to this.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, if you're nervous or things aren't going as planned and your heart rate's up yet, you're still supposed to think of all this new stuff you just learned a lot of times that doesn't mix.

[Matt Castle]

Right? It doesn't. And you miss reads or you're slow to a read, you're not getting off the backside, you're not getting off this read to get to your check down quick enough because you're overthinking it. You're like, okay, I think I know exactly what they're doing, but. But I'm not totally 100% confident in it.

[Bobby Bones]

All right, let's go, Joe Flacco. That's my point. Let's go, Joe Flacco.

[Matt Castle]

Joe Flacco.

[Bobby Bones]

It would be awesome to see Joe Flacco and the Cincinnati Bengals win that division, and I think it's possible.

[Matt Castle]

How great would that be? Joe Flacco to go in.

[Bobby Bones]

Awesome.

[Matt Castle]

Just walk in.

[Bobby Bones]

I saw a clip on TikTok, and it was us talking. It was. I mean, it was. I saw a clip. It was our clip. And the clip was us talking about the Bengals and me going.

[Matt Castle]

Fire everybody.

[Bobby Bones]

Baltimore's 1 and 3. This is before they lost. Baltimore's 1 and 3. Cleveland is terrible offensively and Pittsburgh. Nah, they're just going to be fine. And so it's me saying this and it's you saying real smart things and me saying real dumb things. And then somebody in the comments was like, do you guys even know football? And I never respond to stuff on in the clip. And I responded, I said, we do. We both played in the league for over 10 years.

[Matt Castle]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I took some of yours. Yeah. But I said, of course we do. We both play in the league. And they were like, oh. Oh. So anyway, there you go. That's what I do. I just lie. It's the Internet, man.

[Matt Castle]

Why not? Anything. They'll believe you.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes, of course.

[Matt Castle]

How many articles do you pull up on a day that is written by somebody that has no idea what. What they're writing about?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah. All right, you're up right now in the league. If it's two minute drill, is there a quarterback that you want running that two minute drill other than Baker Mayfield?

[Bobby Bones]

Great question. The answer is yes. I do want Baker Mayfield, though. So I think we should. We should rank them because number one, I still want Patrick Mahomes.

[Matt Castle]

I know. He's so good.

[Bobby Bones]

I still want him. I still want him. I want. This is going to be the most cliche. I still want Josh Allen. I still want Lamar Jackson. I think those are just the three because all three of those guys are very mobile. They're very bendy. They can also run. That's the most cliche answer, and I do say that too easy. I know that's probably not what you're asking, but let's go beyond that. Who do you want next?

[Matt Castle]

Who do I want?

[Bobby Bones]

You want Baker next?

[Matt Castle]

Yes, I want Baker next.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you want Baker more than those three right now?

[Matt Castle]

The way that he's been put in that situation consistently? Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

Your life's on the line, though.

[Matt Castle]

Life's on the line. I'm still going Baker. Right now. I'm riding this Baker train.

[Bobby Bones]

Dude, he's cooking. I think you're getting murdered, but okay. Okay, great.

[Matt Castle]

He does it every single game. It's going to. And that's sustainable for sure. It's sustainable through a 17 game season. And that's what I'm telling you. So every week they're going to win by Baker going out and having last game heroics. I'm convinced of it.

[Bobby Bones]

What's funny is that is every win for them though, right? It's been crazy. I'm also, I really like Jalen hurts in that as well because he will just run double. He will, he will run the ball.

[Matt Castle]

There is the dual threat component that you talked about with those first three guys that they add something because all.

[Bobby Bones]

Five of them do Baker's dual threat. We can't act like he's not.

[Matt Castle]

He's. That's true. I mean, and he's shown that, yeah, he's tough as nail. See Baker. Ride the train, baby. Yeah, ride the train.

[Bobby Bones]

I think about getting on the choo choo. I'll be honest with you. Okay. So I think that might be my top five. It's not Kyler. Kyler got a concussion from the ball hitting him in the. From a snap.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah. He might not be there.

[Bobby Bones]

That's. That was crazy. Like he's looking off a shot and got that boom, right in the head. Then he goes off and have to. Has to check for a concussion. He also. I say this as somebody who if Kyler Murray saw me and was like, I think we should fight, he would kill me. I would die. I would just die.

[Matt Castle]

Okay, so the next comment is.

[Bobby Bones]

But he looks like a toddler running on when he like runs around the outside. It's like a kid who's running off in Walmart from their parent.

[Matt Castle]

But that kid is so fast.

[Bobby Bones]

He's very fast.

[Matt Castle]

He does not want his parents to catch him.

[Bobby Bones]

It's like you look at and you go, that parent needs to put a leash on that kid because you can't catch it. But that's what. He's so small.

[Matt Castle]

He is. But he's such a phenomenal talent. It's crazy.

[Bobby Bones]

I agree.

[Matt Castle]

Okay, you know who I'd go with next then? Matt Stafford.

[Bobby Bones]

And for a different reason. That's a great point. Not because he's mobile, because he has. He's smart and has a cannon. Right?

[Matt Castle]

Smart and has a cannon. He's got weapons around him. But he's a dude that's seen it all and he does not flinch when it gets to that situation. He. It's like second nature to him.

[Bobby Bones]

We're going to do this segment where every week is called the Week in Preview presented by DraftKings. From first touchdown score to anytime touchdown props or the thrill of live in game betting. Every snap is loaded with opportunity. Which by the way, I crushed a Travis Kelsey next touchdown bet.

[Matt Castle]

Did you?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Matt Castle]

So are you one of those guys that sit there and you'll do your little bets they're not little. They're not little big bets.

[Bobby Bones]

No, they're just bets.

[Matt Castle]

David Portnoy.

[Bobby Bones]

Do not call me little. Okay?

[Matt Castle]

Big bets. Okay. Big money. They're not big money bets. Yeah. Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Kevin. Excuse me.

[Kevin]

They are not little.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. I thought you were. Go ahead.

[Kevin]

No, I've seen the screenshots and.

[Bobby Bones]

No, no.

[Matt Castle]

Oh, you're one of those guys. Hey, bro, check this out.

[Bobby Bones]

No, no, no. Hold on, everybody.

[Kevin]

No, no, no, it's not like that. I'm just saying, like.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, no, everybody needs to take a breath attacking me because here's what's happening. I enjoy betting. I do bet.

[Matt Castle]

And are you a religious. Better. Throughout the entire game if I'm.

[Bobby Bones]

It just depends on the game and how I'm feeling.

[Matt Castle]

Okay?

[Bobby Bones]

Like, I don't need to bet to enjoy a game. I like to bet. It's entertainment for me. And so it's fun. If I'm like. When I was watching the Chiefs in Jacksonville, I had a Kelsey anytime. Touchdown. I had a Kelsey. Next. Touchdown.

[Matt Castle]

Let's go both.

[Bobby Bones]

Now, I'm also not someone who's like, I win all the time because I don't. I share with the boys all the time. Like, pretty bad week. Great week. So. But when you say your little bets.

[Matt Castle]

I didn't. I mean.

[Bobby Bones]

No, I know what you meant.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, well. And again, we're not arguing against you, but when I said that you're the one that jumped on it and you said, no, no, no, no, they're not doing this.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm not doing this from him. You're a rich quarterback. Okay, here we go.

[Matt Castle]

Let's see what little bet we're going to bet this week.

[Bobby Bones]

Three biggest games in the NFL this upcoming weekend. And let's go through. And these are three games that I've pulled 49ers at Bucks, which. Both those either four and one, right?

[Matt Castle]

Because. Because the 49ers, Mac Jones has three wins.

[Bobby Bones]

I think they're four and one. I think it's the battle of the four and ones.

[Matt Castle]

Yep.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. Bucks are two and a half point favorites. They are playing in Tampa. I don't know. Make your pick here.

[Matt Castle]

Baker Mayfield, baby, walk off field goal covers. Boom for. I mean, Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I'm going to go Bucks and I'm going to give up the points as well. They're in Tampa. I. Again, I think the 49ers are playing really well, but it's. It's Mac Jones again, right? Like, this is the Mac Jones store. He even saw a dead body before the game last week and. And came out and played in one. You see that?

[Matt Castle]

What happened?

[Bobby Bones]

He saw a dead body in London before the game and then went out.

[Kevin]

And what I didn't hear.

[Bobby Bones]

Look it up.

[Matt Castle]

Look it up.

[Bobby Bones]

Hopefully I didn't get Facebooked because I'm not even on Facebook, but Facebook lies all the time on everything.

[Matt Castle]

Just in case I did get Facebook.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes. And then he comes in after the game and like his split up looks like a Porter Wagner suit, but he's in like red and black. One red, one black.

[Matt Castle]

Dude, he got the hell beat out of him, too.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, limping. Limping in. What do you see?

[Kevin]

Yeah, he was on his balcony in London. Looked out in the water, saw a floating dead body.

[Matt Castle]

Oh, my gosh.

[Bobby Bones]

Dedicated the game to that body. No, he didn't do that. But that's crazy. Yeah. Is he starting next week coming up? See, I don't think that Brock Purdy's back this week, and I don't think Lamar Jackson's back this week.

[Matt Castle]

And I.

[Bobby Bones]

Don'T think John Mateer is back this week. Although that is Oklahoma and not NFL. We're talking about quarterbacks.

[Matt Castle]

Red River Shootout.

[Bobby Bones]

Who probably aren't back.

[Kevin]

Yeah. It says it's likely that he will start Purdy.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. So Purdy is back.

[Kevin]

No, I'm sorry. Mac Jones.

[Bobby Bones]

Got it. How do you feel being a Patriots fan, watching Mac Jones actually play? Pretty well?

[Kevin]

I can't help but to laugh. And the Niners, like, I'm indifferent about them. They're cool. So if it was like a Jets or something like that. But now I'm like, yeah, yeah. And I'm like, cool, dude. Good for you. You're, you know, you're getting your shine. You deserve it, and just see how long it could last. Just hang on there, Niners fans.

[Matt Castle]

I believe he's.

[Bobby Bones]

You're a hater. He's a. He's a hater.

[Matt Castle]

He's a hater.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Matt Castle]

I think he's a little bit more settled. The fact that the guy Drake May is playing the way that he is.

[Kevin]

That definitely helps.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, it definitely helps.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, and Mac Jones came in, in that tumultuous time when Belichick was on the way out fair. He.

[Kevin]

Yeah, his system, what they set him up with was just disastrous.

[Bobby Bones]

And if I'm right here, Josh McDaniel wasn't the OC.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, Josh Mcdaniels was the OC the first year he goes to the Pro Bowl. That year they go to the playoffs, get Boat race by the Bills the next Year Josh takes the job with the Raiders.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, Raiders. Got it. Okay.

[Matt Castle]

Right. Takes the job with the Raiders. And then Matt Patricia, who had been the defensive minded guy no longer with the Detroit Lions came back and they put, for whatever reason Belichick put him, that was weird. As the offensive coordinator. And so when you lose the mastery that Josh McDaniel has of calling offenses and you put in a guy like Matt Patricia who's got a ton of respect for, but I don't know how much he called plays and then in addition to that he gets hurt and I think it was the second game or third game of that season, really bad ankle injury. He's out for four, four weeks. So there was all types of different adversity that he was fighting. And then of course, you know, you get the bandwagon, especially when you're in that Boston media market and it starts going downhill and Jake Zappi steps in and plays well. Bailey, Bailey zappy. Sorry, Jake Zappy. I meant that.

[Kevin]

Sorry, Jake Brownie Bailey zappy.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, just, you know, it was just all different types of factors that led to him on his way out.

[Bobby Bones]

Number two Lions at Chiefs in Kansas City. Chiefs are two and a half point favorite. How do you not pick the Lions here? It's the last game though before Rasheed Rice is back. He's on a six game suspension. And Xavier worthy. Look, listen, he's dynamic and he looked really good. The problem is he hurt his ankle again. He did come back in, but I don't feel like he's even at 100% right now.

[Matt Castle]

Right. You got Worthy, you've got Hollywood Brown. I mean they've got a ton of speed out there. Juju Smith. Schuster is older at this point, but I just don't think their offense has a pure identity other than Patrick Mahomes. Like if he doesn't scramble around and make plays, a lot of times it's out of system or he's their leading rusher in these games. That's not a recipe for consistent success.

[Bobby Bones]

I can't believe the Lions are getting two points.

[Matt Castle]

I'm going to go with the Lions.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm going to go with the Lions too. Lions plus two and a half. And finally Seahawks at Jags. And they will be in. Jacksonville Jaguars are one and a half point favorite. Pick it up.

[Matt Castle]

After last night's victory, they're playing well, but I'm going with the Seahawks. I'm going with Sam Darnold. I think the defensive performance that they had this last weekend isn't necessarily who they Are. And as long as that defense shows up, Sam Darnold's playing a really high level.

[Bobby Bones]

And it's easier to go west to east.

[Matt Castle]

It is.

[Bobby Bones]

Because that's all that is. Listen, it's a long trip. You'll be a little dehydrated, but it's easier to go Seattle to Florida because you're. You don't think so.

[Matt Castle]

It's. It's west to east because. What time's the kickoff?

[Bobby Bones]

I don't know. Probably noon looking at that game. But if it's noon.

[Matt Castle]

Oh, you're right.

[Bobby Bones]

You're starting at nine. I'm doing that. Yeah, you're right.

[Kevin]

It is noon.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Matt Castle]

Oh. So it's a nine o' clock start. So that's a lot harder. Travel.

[Bobby Bones]

I got my time wrong. You got Bailey Zappy wrong.

[Matt Castle]

Yep.

[Bobby Bones]

And that's it. Yep. That was this weekend Preview presented by DraftKings. Here's the best part. New customers bet just five bucks, and if your bet wins, you'll get $300 in bonus bets instantly. Your team hitting pay dirt pays out to you. Download the DraftKings sportsbook app. Use the code to say. That's an interesting one. As in lots to say.

[Kevin]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

It's kind of hard to explain, but okay.

[Kevin]

All one word.

[Bobby Bones]

It looks like tosi. Tosay.

[Kevin]

Tosay.

[Bobby Bones]

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[Matt Castle]

You're not making a $5 bet. You're going big.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, I'm already in, though. I'm not a new customer, but I'll do my own little bets, thank you very much.

[Matt Castle]

Yes, you will.

[Bobby Bones]

Let me tell you something about this. I haven't shared this. So when the Patriots. No, excuse me. When the Chiefs went down after Jacksonville has scored, I'm like, for sure. Mahomes about to come back. And he. And they were. I was getting two points. So it was the Chiefs plus two once they fell down seven. Is everybody with me? So Jacksonville went up a full touchdown on Monday night. This is like third quarter. So it was Kansas City plus two and a half. So I put a thousand bucks on it and had multiple opportunities to cash out. It's big. And I lost, obviously. That one hurt.

[Kevin]

Yeah, that'll sting.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, that one hurt. That one hurt.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, that one hurt. Especially when they, like, are offering you the payout and you're like, hey, if you take 850 right now, which is like 1850. You're. And I was like, no, no.

[Matt Castle]

Why would I do that?

[Bobby Bones]

For sure, this is perfect. Pick six.

[Matt Castle]

No. So it wasn't really your wife asking you to sleep in the other room. You just were like, I'm going to sleep in the other room.

[Bobby Bones]

Here's the thing about me embedding. I don't get mad when I lose.

[Matt Castle]

There's no. Not even a comment like, oh, my God. Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes, that. But I shake it pretty quick.

[Matt Castle]

Do you?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Because again, if I'm betting enough to irritate me, I'm betting too much. Like, okay, I take it back. I get irritated when I lose. I don't get, like, upset because I'm not betting enough to make me upset. If I bet enough to make me upset, then I shouldn't.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Live.

[Matt Castle]

Live to bed another day.

[Bobby Bones]

I shouldn't be doing this.

[Matt Castle]

Live to bed another day.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. I forgot about that brush. That one final thing here. Oh, they canceled the Bill Belichick doc on Hulu in North Carolina.

[Matt Castle]

Oh, they did?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Matt Castle]

They're like, I don't know how this goes or how we are able to sell this, but at the end of the day, I don't know if this is riveting television.

[Bobby Bones]

They canceled it, Like, Yeah. So they. They stopped shooting it because they're shooting it all season.

[Matt Castle]

Right, Right. It's supposed to be a docu series basically throughout the entire season.

[Bobby Bones]

That's like a horror tragedy.

[Matt Castle]

Do we have to come back here, like. Yeah, it's a. It's going to be a tough first year there, old coach.

[Bobby Bones]

I wonder if he'll want to coach a second year.

[Matt Castle]

I think he will. Just to right the ship, knowing him competitively.

[Bobby Bones]

Tell me more, because you do know his personality a bit.

[Matt Castle]

Well, I. I just know that he came in this really. What? He hasn't even had a recruiting class yet, so.

[Bobby Bones]

But he got to buy some players. I mean, and not.

[Kevin]

Not that.

[Bobby Bones]

That's different. Everybody buys players. He didn't get to buy some players.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, I mean, they might have brought in a few guys from the transfer portal, but at the end of the day, he hasn't had a full recruiting class yet. So I'm guessing he's going to go out, recruit like crazy, bring in a bunch of dudes, hit the transfer portal hard, and that team's going to look completely different next year. And that's. That's what my feeling is. And he's going to try to say. And use that as motivation to say, hey, I'm going To prove you guys wrong.

[Bobby Bones]

But if he doesn't and year two is bad, I think that, like, hurts his overall brand. I think one bad year doesn't hurt his brand.

[Matt Castle]

He's at North Carolina. Yeah, but they don't usually.

[Bobby Bones]

Signetti goes to Indiana.

[Matt Castle]

That's true. That is true.

[Bobby Bones]

And, man, they're awesome.

[Matt Castle]

They're really fun to watch, aren't they?

[Bobby Bones]

And last year, you know, it was. They didn't play anybody there went. And then they played Ohio State and Oregon. They got beat. So Indiana, they're kind of a, you know, they're a good team where they're not playing anybody this year. They play people and they win. They play people when they beat Illinois. And B Lima is my favorite.

[Matt Castle]

I love Belema. And they're ranked 9 and they were 15 or whatever it was.

[Bobby Bones]

It was over immediately.

[Matt Castle]

It was. What was it? 66 to, like, seven on. Now that's going to be a fun game to watch in college football this weekend, too, because I think Indiana goes to Oregon, so you'll find out a lot.

[Bobby Bones]

I think what we're going to find out is Indiana's still really good, but, man, Oregon's next level.

[Matt Castle]

They're next level. When I was out on the field and we had the Penn State, Oregon game, I'm looking at their offensive line that averages 6, 4, 3, 15. I'm going. This looks different. Defensive line, everybody around Dante Moore. Wide receivers, Their two freshman cornerbacks are all. They're six foot.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, that's, that's. That's a big cornerback.

[Matt Castle]

They've got dudes all over the field that look like NFL talent.

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, who's the favorite for the Heisman right now? Is that who it is? Because I think More is probably the favorite. Right?

[Matt Castle]

I believe he was up there.

[Kevin]

Or it was Carson Beck, maybe.

[Bobby Bones]

I think those are. That's probably one. Two or two. One. I would bet it's those two.

[Kevin]

Yeah. It looks like Carson Beck and then Dante Moore.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay, how about this one? I have two. Who's the MVP right now in the NFL? I don't know the odds. Would you look that up? Because I'm going to declare. Who?

[Matt Castle]

Baker Mayfield.

[Bobby Bones]

That's one that I think as well. I have another one.

[Matt Castle]

I think you're gonna go with Daniel Jones.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, no, I would, though. I definitely would. How about that? Yeah, that'd be awesome.

[Matt Castle]

That would be great.

[Bobby Bones]

Don't. Okay. Do you have. You have the odds up?

[Kevin]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

For mvp?

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. Is Baker Mayfield in the top two?

[Matt Castle]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. They're wrong. Okay, I'm gonna go bet that. And then I would put Dak Prescott.

[Matt Castle]

Oh, that's. He is playing really, really hard.

[Bobby Bones]

If they win 10, 11 games with a bad defense.

[Matt Castle]

No defense.

[Bobby Bones]

Who again? It's the jets, though. So you have to look at this last week and go, it's the Jets. But if they can win 10 or 11 games and he's playing awesome.

[Matt Castle]

He's playing out of his mind.

[Bobby Bones]

Where is he in the list? Where's Old Dakota? Oh, no, you have an account. That ain't good.

[Matt Castle]

He's like, hold on, let me do the math.

[Bobby Bones]

One, two.

[Kevin]

He's minus down there.

[Bobby Bones]

Really?

[Matt Castle]

Josh Allen.

[Bobby Bones]

Is it all trustees at 1 and 2?

[Kevin]

Yep.

[Bobby Bones]

Is it Mahomes and Josh Allen?

[Matt Castle]

Yep. Yep.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, so fine. Who else you got?

[Kevin]

And so Baker's three, by the way.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, nice. Right?

[Matt Castle]

So he's not too far down the list.

[Kevin]

And then you have Stafford at 4.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, Stafford great.

[Kevin]

Jordan Love, Jared Goff, Jalen Hurts, Justin Herbert, Jaden Daniels, Lamar Jackson, Drake May, Daniel Jones, Dak Prescott.

[Bobby Bones]

What's Dak Prescott? What's he at? Plus what?

[Kevin]

Plus 3,000.

[Bobby Bones]

That is a bet that I would even put 20 bucks on.

[Matt Castle]

It's not a bad bet.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean. And that's a little bit, though. 20 bucks, like you said.

[Matt Castle]

I agree.

[Bobby Bones]

Out.

[Kevin]

600 bucks.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, you can put 20 bucks on that. Do I think he will win it? No. Look at Brandon. Brandon's over there. He's like.

[Matt Castle]

He's already placing the bet.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm in. I like the Baker bet, though.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Because if they continue to win. Oh, yeah. They're not going to want to give it to the same guy over and.

[Matt Castle]

Over again in a winnable division.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

So, all right. Hey, how long was this version, this episode?

[Kevin]

Close to 50 that we just did.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. So we have a whole second episode coming up with Dallas Clark, so we're going to stop this episode. That's it. That's a wrap. We're done on this one. We do have another one, though, a Dallas Clark coming up. And I will say this, it is. I think my favorite interview we've ever.

[Matt Castle]

Done is one of the greatest interviews just because of his personality. He is outstanding. Great storytelling pillar.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Go find that. So this is episode one of the week. That's Matt Castle. I'm Bobby Bones. Kick off Kevin. That's Brandon Ray. We've had lots to say. We'll see. You get. Well, we'll see in a minute. Unless they get put up in the wrong order.

[Kevin]

Same time. I can make sure it's one and then the other.

[Bobby Bones]

Can you make sure this one's on top of that one?

[Kevin]

Of course.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. All right, thank you, everybody. Goodbye. Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is a production of the NFL and iHeart podcasts. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iheart pod.