Scott Hansen (2:28)

We got.

Matt Castle (2:29)

Lots to say.

Bobby Bones (2:33)

We'Re glad you're here.

Matt Castle (2:34)

And we hope you stay. Cause we got lots to say yeah, we got lots to say. Now here's Bobby and Matt.

Scott Hansen (2:45)

Hey Christmas week.

Bobby Bones (2:47)

Hey everybody. You know the Netflix games are interesting this week because they're not that good anymore. Cause the Chiefs are. And the Cowboys are out.

Pickoff Kevin (2:57)

Cowboys Are out. Chiefs are out.

Bobby Bones (3:00)

The two biggest teams. As far as what's going to get the biggest number. Which by the way, the biggest.

Pickoff Kevin (3:05)

But they'll still watch it.

Bobby Bones (3:06)

Yeah, because it's on.

Pickoff Kevin (3:07)

Right.

Bobby Bones (3:08)

But we watched the parade and that ain't good.

Pickoff Kevin (3:10)

Yeah.

Bobby Bones (3:10)

On Thanksgiving.

Pickoff Kevin (3:11)

That's true.

Bobby Bones (3:12)

But the biggest game ever, I believe, of regular season football was the Chiefs and Cowboys when they played earlier this season.

Pickoff Kevin (3:17)

Was it really?

Bobby Bones (3:18)

I believe so. Ever. I think it was the highest regular season game of all time.

Pickoff Kevin (3:23)

Wow. That's crazy.

Bobby Bones (3:26)

Yeah. You may look up the official. Because when there's like three channels, I don't know how that worked. That should have been way more than that because MASH got like a billion viewers.

Pickoff Kevin (3:32)

Right.

Bobby Bones (3:33)

But that was only because there were three channels back.

Pickoff Kevin (3:34)

Right. There's only three channels.

Bobby Bones (3:36)

What do you see? Yeah, it's true. 57.23 million.

Pickoff Kevin (3:40)

Wow.

Bobby Bones (3:41)

Dude, that's crazy. Insane social headline of that biggest of all time. Yeah. The most viewed NFL regular season game ever was Thanksgiving matchup between the Cowboys and the Chiefs. You could have convinced me that it wasn't because again, in the old days when there were three or four channels and they were just showing football on one of the channels. But that's. 57 million is a lot.

Pickoff Kevin (4:04)

57 million is incredible.

Bobby Bones (4:07)

So the Christmas games, Kevin, would you rate me? The Christmas games, they are. You got Cowboys at Commanders. What time? That's 12 o' clock Central time. Thank goodness for Fantasy and for DraftKings.

Pickoff Kevin (4:19)

Yeah.

Bobby Bones (4:20)

Okay.

Pickoff Kevin (4:21)

People will definitely go and watch that.

Bobby Bones (4:23)

Lions, Vikings at 3:30. The Vikings. None of these games matter.

Pickoff Kevin (4:28)

JJ has been playing a little bit.

Bobby Bones (4:29)

Better, but they're eliminated. Like they can't make the playoffs.

Pickoff Kevin (4:32)

That's true. It doesn't help.

Bobby Bones (4:33)

And. And there's a night game on prime that is. The Broncos and Chiefs.

Pickoff Kevin (4:40)

Lost its luster.

Scott Hansen (4:41)

Yeah. Right.

Bobby Bones (4:42)

Like all three of those games on paper at the beginning of the season. This is going to be a stacked Christmas card, right?

Pickoff Kevin (4:48)

Oh, for sure. When they put these games together, like. Oh, we're crushing.

Bobby Bones (4:51)

Yeah. Speaking of Christmas, the most memorable Christmas gifts given by quarterbacks over the past few years, which, by the way, when you were quarterback in your teams, what did you do for the gifts?

Liberty Mutual Announcer (5:03)

Yeah.

Bobby Bones (5:03)

Would you get your linemen Anything? The TV.

Pickoff Kevin (5:05)

I got them TVs one year. I got them suits one year. Like a custom suit. That's awesome.

Bobby Bones (5:11)

Great gift.

Pickoff Kevin (5:11)

Yeah. They can go and get like meet the person. They'll give them a custom suit.

Bobby Bones (5:14)

So do you do like a gift certificate? Like, do you Call and just say, here's like X amount of dollars. Any gift cards for eight? And do you have to get backup lineman something?

Pickoff Kevin (5:23)

Yes, that is part of it. If you're on the roster, you're getting the lineman something. So you're not talking about your five starters. You're talking about eight, nine guys.

Bobby Bones (5:33)

What about deep snapper?

Pickoff Kevin (5:35)

No, that's not. He doesn't work with me. He's. He's the. He's with the punter. They're called specialist.

Bobby Bones (5:39)

Got it, got it, got it. Yeah, I like that gift, though. The suit gets.

Pickoff Kevin (5:42)

Yeah, the suit was a good one. I mean, when iPads first came out, that's. I'm dating myself, but that was kind of cool. Gift got everybody an iPad. There's a few others in between there.

Bobby Bones (5:52)

But is the backup quarterback supposed to buy a gift for everybody?

Pickoff Kevin (5:55)

No, it's kind of like the starter's deal to get maybe him something, too.

Bobby Bones (5:59)

Oh, you have to get the backup.

Pickoff Kevin (6:00)

Yeah. But you don't have to get on the. To the same extent that you do the big boys, the offensive line.

Liberty Mutual Announcer (6:06)

So.

Pickoff Kevin (6:07)

My first year playing, though, was when Brady obviously went down. And at the end of that season, I was unaccustomed to being in that starting role, let alone lead dog and Christmas gifts. I still haven't got all my guys, my offensive lineman, a gift, and it's almost become an ongoing joke where every time I see him, like, castle, where's our gift? It's just. I still feel bad. But I love you guys. Love you guys.

Bobby Bones (6:28)

It's in the mail.

Pickoff Kevin (6:29)

It's in the mail, babe.

Bobby Bones (6:30)

I was having a little pt, a little physical therapy on my ankle foot at surgery like eight weeks ago or so. And maybe not that much, but it still hurts. And I was a little concerned that I re injured it, although I've done nothing to re injure it. And basically they say, you haven't used it in a couple months, so obviously it's going to hurt when you start to use it again. So all that aside, I was at my physical therapist's office, and he says, hey, you do a pod football podcast? I said, yeah. I said, what's called? I said, lots to say. And he said, you work with Matt Castle? I said, yeah. He said, I don't know him, but I have a lot of friends that know him. I'm going to quote his question about you.

Pickoff Kevin (7:09)

Oh, gosh.

Bobby Bones (7:10)

He said, because of what I've heard, is he the nicest guy ever? And I said, yes, he is.

Lowe's Announcer (7:15)

Wow.

Bobby Bones (7:16)

That's exactly What?

Scott Hansen (7:17)

He asked.

Pickoff Kevin (7:18)

I didn't know what to expect on that right there.

Bobby Bones (7:20)

He said, is he the nicest guy ever? I said, he is. He's the greatest dude.

Pickoff Kevin (7:26)

All right, thank you.

Bobby Bones (7:27)

He said, I never met him, but. But he's also worked with a lot of pro athletes here in the area. And he mentioned a few of them. They said, I just hear he's the greatest. And I'm like, brother, you have no idea.

Pickoff Kevin (7:36)

Dude, I'm going into your next physical therapy. I'm gonna fake a back injury. Oh, yeah. Oh, thank you so much. Oh, you. You crack better than anybody.

Bobby Bones (7:45)

Great job, man.

Pickoff Kevin (7:46)

You crack better than anybody. Never had a massage like this.

Bobby Bones (7:49)

I bet you got good massages though. Being a pro athlete, you know, you.

Pickoff Kevin (7:53)

Normally find one person that works with you and then they kind of start to understand your dynamics of your body and you stick with them. And so everywhere I went, you kind of get one person to work on you, especially on like a Monday after you get the hell beat out of you on a Sunday. It just helps get the inflammation out muscles going. So I would do that. But you know what's crazy is when you stop playing. I think I've had one, maybe two massages since I stopped playing. So that's within the like, what, five years? I don't. And I miss them. I honestly miss them.

Bobby Bones (8:24)

I'm going to tell them massages always be body work or would you ever get a massage just for like relaxation?

Pickoff Kevin (8:29)

Never relaxation either.

Bobby Bones (8:30)

It was almost pro athlete, but never the worst.

Pickoff Kevin (8:32)

Like deep tissue grinded out.

Bobby Bones (8:34)

It does bands where it's just not improving.

Liberty Mutual Announcer (8:36)

Yeah.

Pickoff Kevin (8:37)

Kind of like bruising type and I.

Bobby Bones (8:39)

Hate it the whole time.

Pickoff Kevin (8:40)

And the soaz when they do that. Oh, God. Yeah. So it wasn't really an enjoyable like put on the like light massage music and you just sit there and they kind of. No, it was like grind it out, get the massage in elbows, the whole deal.

Bobby Bones (8:55)

So Christmas gifts. Joe Burrow gifted each one of his linemen genuine, unique samurai swords. This a couple years ago. You guys remember this? Some of the swords dated back to the 16th century. So you're talking about 1500.

Pickoff Kevin (9:05)

These are like real samurai swords. That's pretty unique.

Bobby Bones (9:09)

Yeah. Pretty cool. Brock Purdy. Now there's been some revelation about this recently because at the time it was block. Brock Purdy got all his guys trucks. But he had a sponsorship deal and it was part of the sponsorship. Not that it's not awesome to get a free truck, but people. Because Brock party wasn't making any money then he's right. He's in a deal now where he could buy every trucks. He wasn't in a deal then where he could buy everybody trucks.

Pickoff Kevin (9:36)

Are you throwing shade?

Bobby Bones (9:37)

No, not at all.

Pickoff Kevin (9:38)

Part of his deal was him getting trucks for everybody.

Bobby Bones (9:41)

Rookie contract. He got his 10 line lineman, either a Toyota Tundra or a Sequoia in a rookie contract, by the way. Rookie contract, last pick in the draft. You can't. That sets a bad standard for other guys in rookie contracts.

Pickoff Kevin (9:54)

It does, but you know what league minimum is now. It's like it's not going to afford that many trucks, but it's still like 750 grand or something like that.

Bobby Bones (10:02)

So just say it's 800,000. Yeah, but you're going to hit that tax or you're going to. 50% of it's gone.

Pickoff Kevin (10:06)

Right.

Bobby Bones (10:06)

So 400,000 and let's say each truck is 40 grand. 10 trucks is 400,000.

Pickoff Kevin (10:14)

Yeah.

Bobby Bones (10:15)

So all your money just went to those 10 trucks?

Pickoff Kevin (10:17)

And that's what he did. He was living on the street. Yes. This is what makes it unique. He gave it all up for his lineman. He wanted to show the dedication.

Bobby Bones (10:27)

Okay.

Pickoff Kevin (10:27)

Just eating at the facility every day.

Bobby Bones (10:29)

Fair enough.

Pickoff Kevin (10:30)

It was like Rudy and the Notre Dame movie when he'd sleep in the janitor's closet.

Bobby Bones (10:35)

Do you mean the movie Rudy?

Pickoff Kevin (10:36)

Yeah, it was like Rudy in the movie Rudy. I was like, in the movie, the Notre Dame movie. The Rudy in the. You mean Rudy and Rudy? Yes, that was. I was like, is it? Yeah, the Notre Dame movie Rudy. Rudy and Rudy.

Bobby Bones (10:47)

Patrick Mahomes left each of his linemen a gift package last year with a Rolex, Oakley's, a Yeti, cooler, Lucchese boots and recovery boots. All that says Rolex to me. All the other stuff, it's just a Rolex. And others.

Pickoff Kevin (11:00)

Yeah, the Rolex. But it goes back to what you just said about Brock. All those are sponsorship deals. Maybe other than the Rolex.

Bobby Bones (11:09)

But the Rolex is the main one. That's like, yeah, 60, 70 grand probably. On each of those watches. Jalen Hurts and Saquon. As a joint gift, they bought each offensive lineman a personalized golf cart customized with the player's last name, number, and logos of both Hertz and Barkley.

Pickoff Kevin (11:25)

They gave him a golf cart with of themselves.

Matt Castle (11:28)

You know what?

Bobby Bones (11:29)

I hate to be haters. I hate to be a hater.

Pickoff Kevin (11:32)

And they put a picture of Saquon. Yeah, it hurts. On the front like this.

Bobby Bones (11:37)

I don't like them putting their own logos on the gifts. They're giving.

Pickoff Kevin (11:40)

Why'd they put their own logo? Why didn't they just do their, like, lineman's number?

Bobby Bones (11:44)

Yeah, and they did that, but they added their own look. Am I. Am I hater?

Matt Castle (11:47)

No.

Pickoff Kevin (11:48)

Okay.

Bobby Bones (11:48)

No. Not at all. There's no need for that.

Pickoff Kevin (11:50)

Yeah, you're already personalized it.

Bobby Bones (11:52)

This is something similar to what you did. Aaron Rodgers on the jets had a tailor come in, measure the lineman for custom Tom Ford suits, complete with matching cologne and sunglasses.

Pickoff Kevin (12:01)

Mine was big and tall, so no.

Bobby Bones (12:06)

Men's Warehouse, Ms.

Pickoff Kevin (12:07)

Warehouse big and tall. Shout out, Tom Ford. That's pretty.

Bobby Bones (12:11)

That's. Yeah, that's pretty cool, too. Oh, yeah, those are five.

Pickoff Kevin (12:13)

That's why. Oh, you know, I know you got a few hanging in your closet, bro.

Bobby Bones (12:17)

Not anymore. I have a couple hanging in my closet.

Pickoff Kevin (12:19)

Yeah, you do. You call up Tom when you need something.

Bobby Bones (12:21)

I do not, Tommy. I do not. No, not anymore.

Pickoff Kevin (12:25)

Hook it up, baby.

Bobby Bones (12:26)

Those days have long gone where I'm spending money like that on suits. I had my phase, but now I'm good, buddy.

Pickoff Kevin (12:32)

You still got some.

Bobby Bones (12:33)

I still have.

Pickoff Kevin (12:34)

You got swag.

Bobby Bones (12:35)

But also, I used to get a ton of television money.

Pickoff Kevin (12:38)

Oh.

Bobby Bones (12:39)

When I was doing network television.

Pickoff Kevin (12:40)

Yeah.

Bobby Bones (12:41)

It was the greatest was when they were like, hey, just dress yourself for these four things. And they'd put no budget on it. Instead of going, yeah, instead of going, hey, we're going to give you an allowance. The allowance was always way significant per episode.

Pickoff Kevin (12:52)

Yeah.

Bobby Bones (12:52)

Like, I can just use American Idol, for example. That network money is crazy. And they'd be like, okay, you gotta do one episode.

Liberty Mutual Announcer (12:59)

Here.

Bobby Bones (12:59)

Here's $3,000 for this one episode. So what I would do is I would easily get all my clothes, probably two. We'll call em, wardrobes, outfits, two of them for like a thousand and save the 2,000. And then you'd have to use it all or it would just go away. You didn't get to keep the extra. So the next week I'd have like $6,000 and then I would get me just a crazy awesome suit.

Pickoff Kevin (13:21)

That's brilliant. That strategizing.

Bobby Bones (13:23)

It was amazing. That money, that suit, that clothes money was amazing.

Pickoff Kevin (13:26)

Miss. That clothes money.

Bobby Bones (13:27)

I. I just wear cardigans all the time now.

Pickoff Kevin (13:30)

I know, but you. But they're still.

Bobby Bones (13:33)

Well, got.

Pickoff Kevin (13:34)

Got swag to it. Let's be honest.

Bobby Bones (13:35)

But you don't even have to dress up to look dressed up in a cardigan sweater. That's right, because people just think you're put together.

Pickoff Kevin (13:42)

Yeah.

Bobby Bones (13:42)

No, I just got a T shirt And a cardigan on.

Pickoff Kevin (13:44)

It's just class. That's what it is. It's a classy look.

Bobby Bones (13:46)

Yeah.

Pickoff Kevin (13:47)

Like whatever you put on it or under it, I guess I should say one time I want you to show up with no shirt on under it.

Bobby Bones (13:52)

Just rock it. Never would I. But when I was on Dancing with the Stars one week, I had to go dance with no shirt.

Pickoff Kevin (13:57)

Oh, yeah.

Bobby Bones (13:58)

All I had was a jacket. A jacket with no shirt underneath it. And I, I thought to myself, I cannot believe they were like, you have to do it. And they didn't make me make me, but they really rooted me on and they spray tanned the crap out of me. I think I told this, but how.

Pickoff Kevin (14:08)

Many abs did you do that work that week? Like some planks. Crunches. Like get, get it ready for stage.

Bobby Bones (14:15)

Oh, yeah, that.

Pickoff Kevin (14:16)

The hour before, starved myself the hour.

Bobby Bones (14:18)

Before, all I did was sit ups and push ups.

Pickoff Kevin (14:20)

Oh, for sure.

Bobby Bones (14:21)

Leading right into it.

Pickoff Kevin (14:22)

I'm ready.

Bobby Bones (14:23)

And anytime I thought I was on camera, like at the beginning, they do an intro and they're like this. I flexed so hard when I thought I was on camera, I. I was like, I.

Pickoff Kevin (14:30)

Where it messes with your smile.

Bobby Bones (14:32)

Yes. I was like, I had to poop my pants. I was flexing so hard.

Lowe's Announcer (14:35)

Yeah.

Bobby Bones (14:36)

Okay. Scott Hansen coming up. We'll take a break. Red zone Scott Hansen coming up next.

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Bobby Bones (18:32)

All right, let's go over now and talk with NFL Network host Scott Hansen. Scott is known for being my friend every Sunday, even though he does not know that I am his best friend.

Pickoff Kevin (18:41)

He's my best friend too.

Bobby Bones (18:42)

Yes, he's known for hosting NFL Red Zone every Sunday during the season. But he also played college ball at Syracuse. He was there at the same time as Marvin Harrison. And when you think of the NFL, at least for me, you think of Red Zone. You think of Scott Hansen. He's awesome. Here he is. Clap your hands for Scott Hansen.

Pickoff Kevin (18:57)

Let's bring him in.

Bobby Bones (18:58)

Hey, Scott, Bobby, Matt.

Scott Hansen (18:59)

Good to see you guys. Good to be with you here. Thank you for. Thank you for having me into your living rooms or your living spaces each and every NFL Sunday.

Bobby Bones (19:08)

Yeah. For a long time. I spend more time with Scott on the weekend than my pregnant.

Pickoff Kevin (19:10)

W. Gosh. And it's not even at home. Like, I. I'm on the phone. I was at my daughter's basketball game this weekend going like this. And I do have one beef with Red Zone. When you guys go quad box and I'm on my iPhone, I can't see anything. I cannot see anything. Can't see a score. And you're talking about it, though.

Scott Hansen (19:28)

The reason I agreed to be on this podcast is because I wanted to exchange phone numbers. So you can text me if you're on your phone. Thank you. And I will tell the staff, no quad box, no octobox. Matt. Matt needs to be able to see everything. So, yeah, that's a high class problem to have, by the way.

Pickoff Kevin (19:45)

True statement.

Scott Hansen (19:46)

If that's the worst. If that's the worst complaint, we'll. We'll live with that.

Bobby Bones (19:50)

Scott, have you met Matt before?

Scott Hansen (19:52)

Oh, I have. I have. Matt might not remember.

Pickoff Kevin (19:57)

Were we at a party or what?

Scott Hansen (20:01)

I don't know about that. No, it wasn't that. Met you during. During your starting season for the New England Patriots, 2008. So before red zone started in 2009, I was a roving reporter for the NFL. So I had covered you guys. The great 2007 season. Of course, Brady gets hurt. And then 2008, and I was at the New England Buffalo Bills game late December. I want to say week.

Pickoff Kevin (20:32)

That was the final week. Week 16.

Scott Hansen (20:35)

It was week. It was week 17. 17, but the 16th game. And do you remember what that game was like?

Pickoff Kevin (20:41)

It was absolutely the worst conditions ever. The most miserable snowing. The winds were what, 55, 60 miles an hour?

Scott Hansen (20:50)

The wind pushed the goalposts sideways. In fact, I don't know if you guys have capability to punch up an image or anything, but if you could, if one of your people Googles Patriots Bills 2008 in Buffalo, there are images of the goal posts going like this from the wind that was. That was swirling at then Rich Stadium. It was it was called, and it was unbelievable before you guys. So I'm doing pre game hits for NFL Network during the pregame show before you guys had even arrived at the stadium. And they're setting up the stadium whatnot. And it was cold. So they had the heating benches, you know, the big white, like, oh yeah, heating benches, you know, the blow them. Those heating benches blew off of the sideline and were tumbling down as I'm doing my. My hit. And so that was the most, one of the most incredible games I had ever covered. And you guys were brilliant in the game. Patriots won the game. You led them to a 13 nothing. Winkowski somehow hit a couple of field goals in that. I mean, if you look in the game book, it said like 30 mile an hour sustained winds and the gusts were like 50. And there's not a lot of people even listening that have stood in 50 mile an hour winds. It was insane. But. But you guys won. But the reason I get a smile on my face about it is I go to the post game locker room and so I'm interviewing all the individual players and I'm representing NFL Network, so I could usually get one on one interviews as opposed to going into a big scrum with a bunch of microphones sticking in someone's face. So Matt, the winning quarterback was kind enough give me a one on one interview. We had a great interview. I'm like, man, I'm rooting for this guy. I go, I don't know what it's going to look like, you know, when Brady comes back and whatnot. So I'm thinking, you know, Matt Castle, Matt Castle. And I said, I'm gonna get one more interview. And I go over to Mike Vrabel. Now, I'm sure you've told Mike Vrabel stories on this podcast several times. Mike does not suffer fools. Right? And I had just interviewed you and I go to Vrabel and I go, hey, Matt, can I get you quick for a quick interview? I called him Matt accidentally in my head.

Pickoff Kevin (23:04)

Oh my gosh.

Scott Hansen (23:06)

And he literally goes to me, he looks, he goes, matt, Matt. Like, like I was a complete imbecile. Didn't know.

Pickoff Kevin (23:14)

I could totally see him doing that.

Scott Hansen (23:17)

And walked away from me. And all the other reporters heard it and saw it and I just went, I felt so small. It was my fault. But because you had played well in those ridiculous circumstances and won the game and gave me a one on one interview, I had Matt on my brain. And I still have never talked to Vrabel about it. Since I want to apologize to him, but.

Pickoff Kevin (23:37)

Oh, don't apologize, don't apologize.

Scott Hansen (23:40)

He doesn't, he doesn't remember, but he. You know what? I. You got to be on your P's and Q's when you're around Mike. Not Matt Vrabel. Matt Vrabel.

Pickoff Kevin (23:49)

I'm his long lost son. Speaking of that, you just said that. Okay, so you're, you're doing interviews, that type of situation, you go up and you call Mike, Matt. When you're on the red zone, how many names are running through your head and how hard is that to be able to translate that into on air and not mess the name up?

Scott Hansen (24:09)

It is difficult, and I am certainly not perfect, but to mix a sports metaphor, I want my free throw percentage to be high 90s. You know, I probably say on an average red zone episode, I mean, I probably say a couple hundred names. Maybe 100, 200. Probably. Probably a couple hundred names. And there's only 1700 players in the NFL at any given time. And I'm probably saying 200 names. And especially late in the season as we're speaking now, where injuries have taken their toll and you got practice squad guys getting up there and somebody picks off a quarterback and I'm like, who is, who is 23? I don't know who 23 is. And I've got a researcher and a spotter, Tim Galanyans, Brian Larravi, my right hand men, they're awesome. They will fire up, you know, a roster real quick to get me the name and a pronunciation if I need it. But guys, we have done it and we're in the season right now. We've done that where let's say number 23 for whatever team picks off a guy, I'm like, who's 23? And then they're coming to me and they look at me and there's no 23 on the official website of the team. They literally just called the guy up or they got him off the street or whatever, slapped the jersey on him and he's in the game and makes a play and I'm like, I don't know who that is. So a lot of times I'll just say, great job by the defense there. They turn him over and now the ball goes back over to the other quarterback, whatever. But it's difficult. And of course, social media is unforgiving if and when I mess up a name.

Bobby Bones (25:48)

After you left Syracuse, did you ever do the local news? Were you ever your own guy? You had to set up your own camera do that. Can you talk about that first job?

Scott Hansen (25:57)

Oh, that's a great story. So I'm an old man here, old timer here. I'm 54. And so my first year out of Syracuse working as the weekend sports anchor for WPBN, Traverse City, Michigan, which. So they ranked the television markets one to like, there's like 200 TV markets in the country, a little bit more than 200. And they rank them one to 200 based on population. This was market 121. Okay. Anything beyond 100 is tiny. Okay. My annual salary at that place in my, the one year that I was there. You want to guess? Take A. Get 1993. 93 into 90.

Bobby Bones (26:42)

93. Local news.

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Scott Hansen (26:44)

Local news. I was local, so I. Three days during the week I was a sports reporter. On the weekends I would anchor from the anchor desk. The sports reporter.

Bobby Bones (26:53)

39,000, 39.

Scott Hansen (26:55)

Matt.

Pickoff Kevin (26:56)

20,000.

Scott Hansen (26:58)

Try $15,000 was my salary in 1993. And like, it was, it was, but I would have done it for 14,000. I remember reading in USA Today back when newspaper, physical newspapers were a thing. Remember how they used to have a graph in the front page of USA Today? They always had a kind of an interesting like, like pie chart type thing, little pie chart, a graph at the bottom that they just thought people were. This one was percentage of people in the United States that live below the poverty line. And the poverty line was like 13, 5 or something. And I'm like, I'm on television making $15,000. If I'd have made a grand less, I would have been below the poverty line. And people think you're a big hot shot TV guy. So yeah, I was. Oh, dude. I was a one man band, literally setting up my own tripod. And this is not back in the days where everybody had a TV studio in their hand here. You know, camera was bulky and you'd have people walking by at a high school game or something like, where's your camera guy? And I'm like, oh yeah, you know, you're looking at him or oh, he's in the, he's in the production truck right now. I'm sure he'll be back here in a second. So, yeah, I paid my dues. Like, like most people who have gone through any industry, yeah, you definitely paid your dues.

Pickoff Kevin (28:18)

When did you feel like you had your big break and got to a place where you're like, I've, I've kind of set myself up here. I can make a career out of this?

Scott Hansen (28:29)

Well, that's a good question. I've never really felt like, okay, I'm at the destination. Honestly. Honestly, I don't mean to give you a cliche answer, but there were tent poles in my life as I went through, from. From when I transitioned from being a weekend sports anchor at like a local abc, NBC, CBS stat to when I went to an all sports network. My first gig at an all sports network was what was called Comcast SportsNet in Philadelphia, which was the original one. Now they call them NBC Sports, you know, NBC Sports, Washington, NBC Sports, Bay Area, whatever. So this was Philadelphia and that was a big deal because going to all sports, it was like I was going to be the lead story on the show. Not, not me, but I was going to handle the lead story as opposed to being the weekend sports guy where they give you three minutes to do a whole weekend worth of sports highlights. And then all of a sudden I worked in Tampa at the ABC affiliate and I remember a time where I had three minutes and you got to pack all of this stuff into three minutes. And then five minutes before I go on the air, the news director comes in and says, there's a water spout in the Gulf of Mexico right now. Weather needs four minutes. You're down to two minutes like right before. And I like my whole, everything I had done. So transitioning to all sports, where that was it, it wasn't news, it wasn't weather involved, it wasn't anything else like that, that was a big deal. And then moving to the NFL, like becoming an employee of the NFL, which was now, gosh, 20 seasons ago, that was a big, A big deal because you felt like you were at the mothership and it gave you some gravitas to be able to get one on one interviews with Matt Castle and the starting quarterbacks of the NFL and Matt Brable. But now that's the red zone. And Matt, I'm gonna have to interview him again at some point in my life and. Oh, man. Yeah, but, but now hosting red zone for 17 years, I feel very good and I don't want to say settled because I'm always trying to get better. Like anyone, I want to, I want to perform with excellence. And you're only as good as your last show. But I feel like I'm on firm ground in this industry and I'm very thankful, very blessed.

Bobby Bones (30:55)

Obviously you played ball, but was your outlook you were going to cover just football? Because I imagine you have to have a Swiss army knife of skills, especially as you're just a sports guy. Did you hope it would End in just football or was it all over?

Scott Hansen (31:08)

Well, you must have read my bio or something like that, because that's 100% where I was. I would do any sport. And I covered being in, like, local affiliates. I covered 8th grade girls softball. I covered, I covered, I covered the fishing tournaments. The National Trout Festival is, is in Northern Michigan. And I, and I, I covered, I interviewed Ms. Trout, as a matter of fact, beauty pageant around this, this. So I've covered everything there is. But football was always number one for me. I grew up in, I grew up in Michigan and grew up rooting for the Michigan Wolverines and the Detroit Lions and having, you know, Saturdays and Sundays with my dad. Kind of our emotions pivot around did our team win or lose, and then went on to play football throughout, you know, throughout college. So football was always number one. And of course, the NFL is the highest iteration of that. And so that. This is, this is where I've always wanted to be.

Pickoff Kevin (32:13)

Your energy is magnetic. And I, I want to know, how do you take care of yourself? Like, like, honestly, you bring it each and every Sunday. But even talking to you on the podcast, I'm just like, dude, tell me what you're eating. Are you a coffee guy? What, what, what makes you tick? And bring, bring that type of energy.

Scott Hansen (32:31)

Believe it or not. This is, this is natural. I think, I think my late father, Dick Hansen, he, He had, he had the juice back in his day. And, and I don't need anything to get going in the morning. I take a shower, and I am ready to go. I don't, I don't have a lot of caffeine. I've had one cup of coffee in my life, and that was on a dare, and I hated it. So no caffeine. Literally. It's, it's not to sound philosophical, but let's go philosophical for a second. We all have chosen our path in life to the options that we've had presented to us, right? And if I was a schoolteacher or a doctor or a lawyer or a janitor, I would hope I would have enthusiasm in my life the way that I have it. Working in the toy department, right? Working in sports, working in football. We only get so many heartbeats on this planet, and how are you going to spend them? And I try to have enthusiasm and passion for not only my life, but for other people. You guys asked me to be on this podcast. I'm going to give you the best that I have. People have an infinite number of choices. I'm referring over to my media wall over here at my place in Los Angeles. I don't know if that's going to show up.

Bobby Bones (33:52)

Yeah, we got it.

Scott Hansen (33:53)

Oh, we got it on my media wall over there. When people turn on their TV on Sunday and you consider streaming options, infinite number of choices. If they come to NFL red zone, if they stop on me and our team, I'm going to give them everything I got. And. And that's. That's really where the passion comes from. And the last thing I would say on it is this, when. When you don't have talent, you better have enthusiasm. And that's the way I live my life as a football player, as a scrub. Walk on at Syracuse. And that's the way I try and live my professional life as a broadcaster.

Bobby Bones (34:29)

I know you lived in Tampa and worked with the Bucs, at least alongside them, and I've been lucky enough to spend a little bit of time with Coach Dungy, and I love being around him. How did you feel working alongside Coach Dungy? And do you have a good Dungy story? Ooh.

Scott Hansen (34:47)

My single favorite person to deal with in sports is Tony Dungy. And Tony, for people who know him, see him on broadcast or they've seen him interviewed, he's not the most, like, like, ambulance, you know, like all the energy that I'm given right now, that's not. Tony is very understated. Everybody knows that about Tony and whatnot and. And like. But I love Coach. I love him. Maybe my favorite story was this. I happen to be a Christian, and Coach Dungey's vocal about his Christian faith. And when I was getting the job in Tampa, he was in his. He was going into his second year as head coach of the Buccaneers. So he was building this thing, right? SAP, John Lynch. You know, Dilfer was the quarterback at the time. Warrick Dunn, Michael Stott, Derek Brooks, you can ronde Barber came along. You could go through the list. But I was considering taking this job in Tampa, and I said, well, I think I know what my professional life would be like. The social life would probably be good, right? It's the Sunshine State and all that. I'm like, I wonder how it is, like, spiritually down there. Like, what are the churches like down. What is it? So I said, I know their head coach, Tony Dungy. He's involved in a lot of Christian charities and things like that. I was like, I wonder if I could ask him. So I literally cold called the Tampa Bay Buccaneers headquarters and. And like, literally to the number that I could find. This is even pre Internet, I suppose like, the number that I found and. And secretary passed me, patched me through to another secretary, and I said, is there any chance I could talk to Coach Dungy? And he didn't know me from anywhere. Sports reporter or whatever. Two minutes later, he picks up the phone. Wow. And he's like, hi, this is Coach Dungey now. I mean. I mean, who. What head coach in the NFL would or could ever do that? And he spent, I don't know, 10, 10, 15 minutes on the phone, which felt like an eternity for me. And I said, hey, Coach, you know, we. You know, I'm get offered to this job down at the ABC station in Tampa, but I. I want to know what it's like spiritually down there. Like, where do you go to church? What do you know? He talked. Couldn't have been. Couldn't have been kinder. And I covered him for all of his years until 1999, and then I left Tampa. He left shortly thereafter. Of course. Gruden came in, but I followed him. I covered him with the. With the Colts and bump into him now and his work on NBC. Love, Coach Dungey. I have since that moment always will. And I try and emulate that in my life. When someone I don't know asks for some of my time, college student or something like that, even as busy as I am, I try to give them some love and attention the way Dungy did to me back when I was cold calling him.

Pickoff Kevin (37:45)

That's amazing.

Scott Hansen (37:46)

That's an awesome.

Pickoff Kevin (37:48)

That's a great story.

Matt Castle (37:57)

This is a real good story about.

Bobby Bones (37:59)

Drew, a real United Airlines customer. After almost four years of treatments, I was finally cancer free. My mom's like, where do you want to go to celebrate? I'm like, let's go somewhere tropical. And then pilot hopped on the intercom and started talking about me. And I was like, what is going on here?

Scott Hansen (38:13)

My wife beat cancer, too, and I wanted to celebrate his special moment.

Bobby Bones (38:16)

That's Bill, a real United pilot.

Pickoff Kevin (38:19)

We brought him drinks and donuts.

Scott Hansen (38:21)

We all signed a card.

Bobby Bones (38:22)

I was smiling ear to ear. Best flight ever, for sure.

Scott Hansen (38:25)

That's how good leads the way.

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A burrito bowl?

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No.

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Pickoff Kevin (41:59)

Take us back 17 years and the first conversation that you were approached with for the Red Zone and how was it pitched? What went through your mind?

Scott Hansen (42:08)

Yeah, so as I said, I was a roving reporter. They would send me to practices games, do remote reports. But I always told the bosses at NFL Network, I said guys, I think for my skill set, I feel better on the anchor desk than I do in the field. I like to keep all the knives in the drawer sharp. And I try to do it, be excellent in whatever format I'm in. But I said I would love to host something for you, to be the face and the voice of something. So the summer of 2009, I had heard that we were starting this, this channel, the red zone NFL red zone. There had already existed on DirecTV, the red zone channel, which confuses a lot of users, viewers that there used to be two red zones, but they were basically going to kind of copy that format and, and have it themselves in house for the NFL. So I called up a talent coordinator at that time and I was like, wait a minute, wait a minute. It, this, this channel is going to be every touchdown from every game, seven hours straight through, give you the 10,000 foot view of the NFL. We can take you to whatever stadium, wherever, whenever, and there's going to be no commercials. And they were like, yep. And I said, who you got to host this thing? And they said well, we're looking at a few people. I said is my name on the list? They said yeah, your name is on the list. I said I want this. So they had auditions for the short list of names that they had. And for your audience who might not know, a television audition usually lasts 10, 15 minutes, right? They put you up on set, they put a microphone on you, they give you an earpiece and they just want to see how you look, how you sound. If it's a co hosted show, they'll bring a co anchor, so see if you can execute some cross talk and whatnot. But it's 15 minutes, right? And it's kind of a formality. But because stamina, enthusiasm, knowledge of the game are all priorities for Red Zone and stamina, maybe being number one is a seven hour then commercial free channel. They they, the Audition was five hours long.

Pickoff Kevin (44:34)

Oh, my God.

Scott Hansen (44:35)

And this was like. This was like June of 2009, right before we came out. So it's the middle of the summer. There's no. There are no games going on or anything. So what they did is they put me into a studio in Los Angeles at NFL media headquarters, and they took a random week from the season before, whatever, week seven of 2008, and this was. They actually had videotapes. And they took eight videotapes of eight different games, cued them all up to the kickoff, pressed play simultaneously and said, talk. Wow. And we rolled through and I had a producer that was in my ear trying to like. Because they had to. They had to audition an entire television staff, right? A producer, director, technical director, audio, graphics, everything. And. And I'm going through it as best I can. You have no computers, though, because there's not like live box scores that you can follow along to say, okay, Randy Moss has 100 yards receiving now at the half, or something like that, right? So you're doing it. You're flying by the seat of your pants. I was wearing a suit. I remember I sweated. I'm not a big sweater, but I sweated right through this suit. I mean, flop sweat. And I'm thinking in my head, just keep going. Be enthusiastic, make the transitions. You know, nail as many things as you can. And I'm thinking, I'm either winning this job or I am ruining my career right here. There's like almost no. Almost no in between. So the audition, we went through a whole set of games, three hours. Then they put in another, like, four games and took us to like, halftime of those games. It was a five hour audition, finished up. I didn't have a real good vibe about it one way or another. I knew I did my best. But about two weeks later, the executive producer of NFL Network gives me a call and I said. I said, hey, Eric, how you doing? He's like, oh, good, Scott, good. He goes, I just wanted to let you know we want to name you the host of NFL Red Zone.

Pickoff Kevin (46:42)

Let's go.

Scott Hansen (46:43)

I was like, oh, man, that is awesome. I said, so. So you watched the five hour audition, right? They recorded it for him and whatnot. He goes, scott, I watched the first 15 minutes of it and I knew you were my guy. You bring that energy, that passion. And I was like, oh, Eric, that is great. That's awesome. And in my brain, I'm thinking, then why in the did you have to do five hours, ruin a perfectly good suit and stress Like I never have. But all's well that ends well. And here we are 17 seasons later.

Bobby Bones (47:14)

That is a great story. Two final questions for you, Scott. I'll go first. Living in Nashville, I have a lot of friends that are artist singers or lead singers of bands. And so their whole week is revolving around really the two shows that they're gonna do on a Friday and Saturday night. And so a lot of people will think, wow, they're super famous. They probably party all night the night before a show or the night after a show before another show and they're actually going to bed at 8. Like they're having to. Their instrument is so delicate that they're having to treat it as such. And I wonder if you a bit live with that as well where you're famous. Scott Hansen Everybody loves you got high energy, but also you got to shut it down so you can have it right?

Scott Hansen (47:52)

100%. So on, obviously we're on on Sunday, on a Saturday, On a football Saturday. Prior to Red Zone, I might see. I'm a bachelor, I live alone, no kids. So I'm just here and I'm researching. I'm grinding on every fact stat, storyline, injury updates, quotes that came out during the week to Prepare for all 11, 12, 13 games that I have on Red Zone. The only live human beings that I see on a football Saturday are the doordash or post maintenance delivery guy who brings me my food. And for those who are watching not listening to the podcast, I showed you the media wall. I put up the best five, five college games on my media wall. And that's way behind me. Those are like 60 inch TVs over there. But I put on the best five college games. I sit on my computer right over here, look through all my notes on, on the pros, watch the next generation of college coming up and it's a, it's a beautiful football weekend for me. But no, I can't even tell you the last time I went out. I went out and did something on a Saturday. One of my best friends moved his wedding to a Thursday so I could be best man at his wedding because they wanted to get married during a football.

Pickoff Kevin (49:14)

That's a good friend.

Bobby Bones (49:15)

That's good.

Scott Hansen (49:15)

Darren Kuchera. Shout out.

Bobby Bones (49:17)

Shout out. Darren Kucheras.

Scott Hansen (49:19)

Shut up.

Pickoff Kevin (49:21)

My last one would be, you know, you said that you never feel completely settled. Is there a sporting event that you at some point would want to cover or an avenue in which you'd want to go with your career that is just on your bucket list?

Scott Hansen (49:37)

Yeah, I've. Matt, I've done a lot of things. I've been very blessed. I have been, I have covered, obviously, multiple, multiple super bowls, something like 17 Super Bowls. I've been to the college football national championship. I've been to multiple final Fours in college basketball, NBA Finals, NHL finals. About, about the only stuff I've never covered. I've done the Olympics. Now, you may have heard that gold zone has begun for, for the Olympics, which is red zone for the Olympics. That's a lot of fun. I'll, I'll be doing the Milan Cortina Winter Games coming up here in February. A world heavyweight championship fight, boxing or ufc even that there is buzz like, like nothing else. I would like to do that, cover that and be ringside and maybe even call it if it, you know, it's not my, my entirely my world. I've done some boxing before. That would be something.

Bobby Bones (50:41)

Or.

Scott Hansen (50:42)

Well, the World cup is coming to the United States. I've never been to a World cup match, but a World cup final, depending on what, what countries make it to the final. I'm sure that's otherworldly. And I, I love the juice, man. You could tell that I love the action. You could tell me in the, in the, in the, in the international tiddlywings competition. And if you can tell me why it's dramatic, I will, I will be all in. I've been to the Grand Sumo tournament in Japan. I, I was happy to be in Japan. When the tournament was going on, I talked to the concierge at the hotel. I said, can you give me a ticket to the Grant? I want to see it. I didn't understand anything that was going on, but I was like, I was right there. You take off your shoes, you sit, you sit in like cross legged in, in. They don't have like regular seats in, in the ancient arena that they held it in. You go to the concession stand. Everything is in Japanese. And there's like the head of a fish. Like fish instead of a picture of a hot dog and popcorn. And you're like, yeah, I don't want that. I'll do one of those. So there almost any major sporting event in the world that people find interesting, I could probably find interesting.

Bobby Bones (51:54)

Well, we appreciate the time. I think again, you and I have what I would call a parasocial relationship. I think we're where I know the relationship, but you do not. So I just really appreciate.

Scott Hansen (52:03)

Not anymore, Bobby.

Bobby Bones (52:04)

Not anymore. Fair enough, Fair enough.

Scott Hansen (52:05)

We're there.

Bobby Bones (52:06)

Really appreciate the effort and the enthusiasm and listen, I think Matt and I love how you do it and the way you do it and you just have such a positive attitude. You're an inspiration to many, Mr. Hansen. So thank you very much for your time and have a great weekend and hopefully we'll see you sometime soon.

Pickoff Kevin (52:22)

I'll see you on Sunday, Scott.

Bobby Bones (52:24)

All right, see you, Scott.

Scott Hansen (52:27)

See you Sunday, boys.

Bobby Bones (52:28)

That was awesome. Thank you, Scott. This is a real good story about Bronx and his dad Ryan, real United Airlines customers.

Scott Hansen (52:43)

We were returning home and one of the flight attendants asked Bronx if he wanted to see the flight deck and meet Kath and Andrew.

Bobby Bones (52:49)

I got to sit in the driver's seat. I grew up in an aviation family and seeing Bronx kind of reminded me of myself when I was that age. That's Andrew, a real United pilot. These small interactions can shape a kid future. It felt like I was the captain.

Scott Hansen (53:03)

Allowing my son to see the flight deck will stick with us forever.

Bobby Bones (53:05)

That's how good leads the way.

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Matt Castle (53:31)

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Matt Castle (58:57)

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Bobby Bones (58:58)

Merry Christmas, everybody. What are you guys doing for Christmas?

Pickoff Kevin (59:01)

We're going to be here. We're going to be here for Christmas and then I think we might be leaving and going up to Montana for a little bit.

Bobby Bones (59:08)

Oh, from cold to colder. You made California?

Pickoff Kevin (59:12)

No, we did that for Thanksgiving. So this time, go around, we're going to get real cold. It's probably going to be like negatives up there where you're not even going to leave the house. But there's gonna be a little skiing, a little fun, you know, just. Just fun winter stuff.

Bobby Bones (59:25)

I've never been skiing.

Pickoff Kevin (59:26)

Oh, dude. I went for the first time just a few years ago and I did a Little snowboarding when I was younger, but nothing. I'm a novice at best, so I go out to this hill my kids are getting. It's their first time, so they get a lesson. I come out, I was like, honey, I'm gonna be snowboarding. She's like, you're a lizard. Look at you. I mean, you're on a snowboard. Every person there is on skis. So I was like, fine, I'll try skiing. So I go get this little lesson. Skiing is the greatest thing ever. There's nothing like going down a mountain with the wind in your hair and little snowflakes hitting you. And you can control the skis. You've got these poles. There's no issues with balance. Amazing.

Bobby Bones (60:07)

Did you not ski while you were playing? Because you were playing?

Pickoff Kevin (60:10)

Yeah, because I thought if I did anything, I'd have to give them all the money back. That would be awful. And it was kind of in your contract. If you put yourself at risk and you do have an injury like that.

Bobby Bones (60:18)

Do they list specifically what those.

Pickoff Kevin (60:20)

Oh, yeah. They've got a whole section redlining, right? It could be. Could be motorcycles.

Bobby Bones (60:26)

Motorcycles?

Pickoff Kevin (60:27)

Yeah, motorcycles.

Bobby Bones (60:28)

Like crash a motorcycle?

Pickoff Kevin (60:30)

Yeah, he did.

Bobby Bones (60:31)

He got hurt. Well, Merry Christmas, everybody.

Pickoff Kevin (60:33)

Merry Christmas to you, buddy.

Bobby Bones (60:34)

Merry Christmas, guy. He's now turned into the angel gets his wings guy. You know, what's that movie about a beautiful life? I don't know.

Pickoff Kevin (60:41)

You know, it's called A beautiful. Oh, that's so true. Just.

Bobby Bones (60:49)

Thanks again, Scott Hansen. That is Matt Castle. That is Pickoff Kevin.

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We've had lots to say. We'll see you guys.

Scott Hansen (60:55)

Bye, everyone.

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