Lots to Say: NFL Week 14 recap and WWE's Charlotte Flair

Summary

The Bobby Bones Show – "Lots to Say": NFL Week 14 Recap & WWE's Charlotte Flair (Dec 10, 2025)

Hosts: Bobby Bones & Matt Cassel
Special Guest: Charlotte Flair

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Episode Overview

This episode delivers a spirited recap of NFL Week 14, headlined by the unexpected return of Philip Rivers, deep dives into quarterback debuts and struggles, up-to-date power rankings, and a detailed preview of the week’s key matchups. The episode features an in-depth conversation with 14-time WWE Women’s Champion Charlotte Flair, exploring her injury comeback, career evolution, and lessons from competition.

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Main Themes & Segments

1. NFL Week 14: Injury Fallout, Comebacks, and Power Rankings
2. NFL Week 14 Game/Team Analysis
3. Shadur Sanders & Rookie Quarterbacks: Hype vs Reality
4. Special Guest: Charlotte Flair (WWE) – Injury, Identity, and Success
5. Fun Closers: Stories and Light Moments

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1. NFL Week 14: Injury Fallout, Comebacks, and Power Rankings

The Philip Rivers "Rookie Movie" Story (07:01)

• Topic: Colts’ QB Injury Crisis & Rivers’ Return
• Daniel Jones’ Achilles tear (out for season, free agent soon)
• Anthony Richardson’s fractured orbital bone; Riley Leonard also injured
• Surprise move: Colts sign 44-year-old Philip Rivers after a workout
  • “Old Philip Rivers, man, he's still coaching ball, so he's probably in shape.” (C, 07:11)
  • Rivers’ connections: mentored Leonard, former Colt, familiar with Jonathan Taylor, Quenton Nelson, Pittman
  • Pocket-passer, out of NFL 4-5 years, but brought in for experience
• Fun stat: If Rivers plays a snap, HOF eligibility restarts
  • “One snap in a game, you're off the ballot for five years.” (A, 09:54)
• Side note: Rivers could be oldest QB to start (Brett Favre referenced as grandpa starter, 10:53)

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2. NFL Week 14 Game/Team Analysis

Power Rankings Breakdown (11:42)

Honorable Mention

• #6 – Kansas City Chiefs: “Just missing the list this week at number six, the Kansas City Chiefs.” (A, 11:45)
  • 6-7 record; need to win out. Host’s bet: Will they make the playoffs at long odds?
  • “If the Ravens are in the hunt at 6 and 7, so are the Chiefs.” (A, 12:46-12:54)

Top Five

• #5 – Bills (9-4): Gutsy snow win, big defensiveplays (15:16)
• #4 – Packers: Big win over Bears; Caleb Williams’ growth as a young QB (19:35-20:41)
  • “He’s going to be a really good quarterback.” (A, 20:18)
• #3 – Patriots (11-2): Playing disciplined under Mike Vrabel, Drake May emerging as MVP candidate, strong special teams (21:13-22:43)
  • “This is a young, young football team… the future is really bright.” (C, 22:07)
• #2 – Seahawks: Big jump after not making last week’s list (23:19)
• #1 – Rams (10-3): “You got to put them in… the Rams at number one 10 and 3 vs the Lions next week.” (A, 23:41)

Conference Analysis

• Acknowledgement of heightened parity in the NFC ("six teams…could represent the NFC in the Super Bowl", A, 23:51)
• AFC wild-card race is wide open. Chiefs, Ravens in the hunt, Dolphins/Bengals technically alive.

Quick Previews / Picks (Bills @ Patriots, Lions @ Rams, Packers @ Broncos)

• Arguments for/against home field, QB performances, defensive battles.
  • “I'm going with Green Bay. That defense ... I think it’s going to be a defensive battle.” (C, 27:06)

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3. Shadur Sanders & Rookie QBs: Hype vs Reality (55:52)

• Shadur Sanders: Examined as a surprise starter due to injuries

  • Mixed results: “he’s played well against bad teams and bad against good teams” (A, 57:41)
  • “I think he's got four games to prove himself.” (A, 57:47)
  • Discussion on whether Browns should/would draft a new QB if Sanders underwhelms
  • Matt: “It’s a lot to put on a young quarterback... but as long as he keeps moving forward, taking care of the football… there's some highlight reel plays on there…” (C, 58:22)
  • Future draft: Oregon’s Dante Moore and Indiana’s Mendoza as possible targets

• Jalen Hurts & Eagles’ Struggles

  • “I think it's about the Eagles and where they are from a momentum standpoint. Because now it's what, three straight? They've lost three straight…” (C, 63:46)
  • Philly fans being quick to call for coach’s removal: “I don't feel like rational people are calling for Sirianni's job. I feel like Philadelphia fans are calling for Sirianni's job.” (A, 65:14)

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4. Special Guest: Charlotte Flair – Injury, Identity, and Success

Segment Start: [32:26]
Guest: Charlotte Flair (14-time WWE Women’s Champion)

Early Life & Athletic Foundations

• Grew up a volleyball player, even played in college. Once aspired to play professionally.
  • “I did beat volleyball. Gabriel Reese was like my role model… All I wanted to do was play in college.” (E, 36:22)
  • Family turmoil and self-identity struggles changed her goals after college.

Wrestling Origins & Connection

• Inspired not by personal ambition initially, but by her brother’s dream.
  • “I started wrestling for my little brother, which was his dream, and then turned into mine.” (E, 38:12)

Physical & Mental Demands of Wrestling

• Training: “Being athletic, being in shape, keeping up with my training has what's kept me in the game… It’s like my decompressor.” (E, 33:57)
• Injuries: “Small, random bruises are what hurt the most… I think I broke my nose the first week.” (E, 33:21, 40:04)
• Early challenges: “Taking bumps is not natural… Like the ropes hurt, the mat hurts.” (E, 39:04)

Evolving Into ‘The Queen’

• Character development: Slow and ongoing.

  • “Definitely the first two years, I didn't even, like, know where to put my hands on my entrance… finding a character, the charisma, I think for me, that just hasn't stopped.” (E, 40:09)
  • Embracing legacy (“Flair’s kid”), overcoming the pressure of lineage.

• Artistry: She personally pays for the elaborate wardrobe.

  • “No, it's up to you to invest in yourself… That’s all part of what I invest into Charlotte.” (E, 41:15)

Villain or Hero: The Psychology

• “It's harder to be liked. It's easier to be disliked.” (E, 42:14 & 42:18)
  • “When you're doing something wrong is when you're not getting a response from the audience. So whether it's for me, boos, cheers, or woos… as long as the fans are engaging, I'm like, that's a win.” (E, 42:22)
  • Currently a "good guy" for first time, feels she’s more relatable now:
    “For so long, I made this character that wasn’t relatable because I’m like… She has to be the best. …But there’s so much more … I’m not starting over. But now… the character can be more relatable, and that’s what I’m learning.” (E, 43:02 & 44:01)

Coping With Pressure, Separation from Persona

• “I used to say, oh, I wish I was more like my character in my real life... But really, what's, like, made the character special over this last year is not being like that.” (E, 45:15)
  • Discusses being a role model, importance of authenticity for fans

Milestones & Comebacks

• WrestleMania 35: First women to headline
  • “I walked down the ramp and was like, I did exactly what I said I was going to do… we were meant to be there that night because it was the best story that whole year.” (E, 46:45)
• 2025 Royal Rumble Win/Return from Injury:
  • “I was more nervous about being away for over a year… When you've been off in a way, you're like, will they remember me?... How do you get in that mental space…” (E, 48:22)
• Future Goals:
  • “I really want to main event WrestleMania again… but I think personally and professionally, it’s continuing to grow as a character… show layers.” (E, 50:30)

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5. Fun Closers: Football Stories & Light Banter

• Matt Cassel’s One Career Punt (66:25): Story of a legendary “quick kick” for 57 yards into massive wind with a dry sense of humor.
  • “No, I literally looked over the sideline like, say that again. Like, are we serious?” (C, 66:28)
  • “I was fired up because it literally was down on the one, but at the same time I was like, I'm getting a little bit more credit than I deserve, but I'll take that credit. It was pretty sweet…” (C, 67:55)

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Notable Quotes & Moments (w/ Timestamps)

• On the Rivers comeback:
  • “It's like the Rookie, the movie... can't imagine anybody being older than him.” (A, 09:59)
• On character and crowd response:
  • “When you're doing something wrong is when you're not getting a response from the audience.” (E, 42:22)
• On returning from injury for Royal Rumble:
  • “I was more nervous… will they remember me?… How do you get in that mental space.” (E, 48:22)
• On player-fan irrationality:
  • “I don't feel like rational people are calling for Sirianni's job. I feel like Philadelphia fans are calling for Sirianni's job.” (A, 65:14)

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Memorable Moments

• The playful debate over power rankings and whether the Chiefs should be “in the hunt” graphic
• Charlotte Flair’s candid reflection on the difference between her persona and her real-life struggles
• Detailed football outsider-insider analysis from both Bobby (fan) and Matt (ex-QB)
• The “Rivers as Grandpa QB” light-hearted side tangent
• Charlotte’s behind-the-scenes talk about wardrobe costs and investing in your own character
• Matt Cassel reciting his punt play and owning both the (dubious) credit and the moment

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Timestamps for Key Sections

• Philip Rivers comeback: 07:01–11:38
• Power Rankings: 11:42–24:01
• NFL Quick Preview: 25:39–27:20
• Charlotte Flair Interview: 32:26–51:29
• Shadur Sanders/Browns QB Segment: 55:52–61:40
• Eagles/Hurts Discussion: 62:30–65:14
• Matt Cassel’s Punt Story: 66:25–68:09

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Summary & Takeaways

This episode blends sharp football analysis, humorous banter, and a heartfelt interview with one of wrestling’s biggest stars. Bobby and Matt strike a balance between high-level league trends and quirky player narratives, while Charlotte Flair’s conversation reveals the athleticism and resilience required at the top of women’s WWE. The show is light, conversational, occasionally nerdy, and always engaging—a can't-miss for fans of either gridiron or squared circle.

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We got lots to say.

We got lots to say.

[C]

We're glad you're here and we hope.

[B]

You stay Cause we got lots to.

[E]

Say.

[B]

Yeah we got lots to say.

[A]

Now here's Bobby and Matt everybody.

[B]

Welcome.

[A]

We have Charlotte Flair coming up from WWE who is 14 time world champion Ric Flair's daughter. She had a massive ACL injury a year off, came back, won the Royal Rumble. So Charlotte Flair coming up. Pretty excited about that. Matt. How are you, buddy?

[C]

I'm doing great, buddy. How are you? Charlotte flair, let's go. 14 time you said.

[A]

I did say that, yeah.

[C]

Yeah. That's pretty impressive.

[A]

You got good energy.

[C]

What's the championship like?

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I mean, she has many what's, what's. So she won, like, nxt.

[C]

Is she the most decorated. Yes, she's the most decorated female. Female in WWE history.

[A]

I think Cena has won it 17 times as a 17. I think that's the number. And I think she is most decorated female at 14. But hers have been because the women's division, we'll call it that has really grown in the past decade to where it is up there with the men's, where for a while it was just like a sideshow. Way back in the early days, for sure, they even had like Glow, the Gorgeous Ladies of Wrestling. But now it's real and they're awesome. And sometimes those storylines are better than what the dudes have going on.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And so she won NXT then. I think she won Divas. She's won. She may be on smackdown now. I get a little lost.

[C]

There's a lot of wrestling shows that you have to follow. For sure.

[A]

It's a lot.

[C]

I mean, the one person I don't think I would really want to ever wrestle, even if they're doing wwe, is Ronda Rousey. She just looks like she's going to hurt somebody.

[A]

And she was a wrestler for a while. She headlined WrestleMania with Charlotte. It was her. It was a three. It was Becky lynch, whose name is the Man. Do you know her? Becky lynch is awesome. Seth Rollins wife.

[C]

No, I don't know her.

[A]

She's Irish, I think. And when she talks, she's like, is.

[C]

There anything better than a good Irish accent? Yeah, I love it. Yeah.

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Yeah.

[C]

So, so good.

[A]

She's awesome. And all three of those headlined WrestleMania. First women to ever do it.

[C]

That's a really impressive, actually.

[A]

Yeah. So I, I, I like wrestling. I don't get to watch a lot of it. I do watch the Summer Slams. I do watch.

[C]

I went to one of those.

[A]

Yeah, that was here in town Football stadium few years ago. I do watch WrestleMania both nights. I do watch Royal Rumble, which is my favorite event. But I don't get.

[C]

Is that where they just lock them in the cage and they absolutely destroy each other?

[A]

No, Royal Rumble is where they start out with.

[C]

You laughed and looked at me like, you are such an idiot. My Bad. I got things going on.

[A]

No, and so do I. Yeah, but you love wrestling.

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I do.

[A]

I do watch the big events. I do watch the big events, and I do keep up with it.

[C]

Okay, so the Royal Rumble circumstances are.

[A]

They put two people in the ring.

[C]

Two.

[A]

And then every, I think two minutes, you. Somebody's music goes off that you don't know who it is, and somebody else comes down and jumps in. And once they get thrown over the top rope, they're out. So it's basically last man in the ring.

[C]

Last man standing.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

King of the castle. King of the castle. That one. So you're just throwing. I don't know if you're at. Just throw them out of the ring and you're.

[A]

So they have to go over the top.

[C]

So how many. How many individuals are you talking?

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30.

[C]

There's 30 people in a ring greatest.

[A]

Because you never know who's coming out. And every year, there's always four or five or six or seven people that either you haven't seen wrestle in 10 years or I think I show. Speed showed up and he wrestled. He wasn't supposed to, part of the storyline. And Triple H was like, speed, you got to get out there. And then he goes out and gets speared. And it's one of the hardest shots I've ever seen taken. It was fantastic. It's my favorite event because you don't know who is going to come out.

[C]

I'm tuning in this year.

[A]

Yeah, we should have, like, a watch party.

[C]

We should.

[A]

We should stream.

[C]

I need to do this with my kids. Like, get a ring upstairs. All right. Every two minutes, I'm going to introduce a song of your picking.

[A]

A song?

[C]

Yeah, you just said an intro song. Right. And they come down and they.

[A]

Yeah, but then people come down.

[C]

Yeah. One of my kids come down. I've got five of them.

[A]

Are you going to bring in other kids they don't know is coming?

[C]

That would be awesome, too.

[A]

Like Bully from the Block.

Glad everybody's here. Thanks for hanging out with us. I'm anxious to get started.

[C]

Are you?

[A]

Yeah. You want to go for. I want to give you first overall pick of the topics because for those that have never watched or listened to the show before, we don't know what each other's going to bring. And so we kind of have to freeball it whenever he says something. I hopefully I know enough about it, but we might have the same topic on our page. So I want to give you first overall pick.

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Okay. First overall pick. We now know the direction that The Colts are going to go Philip rivers, I mean, 44, dust off the old cannon.

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That's why I was giving you first.

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Pick, because I knew that you were going to go there. Because the Colts, let's be honest, after Daniel Jones goes down, they have really a lot of inexperience beneath him. But I felt so bad. Number one for Daniel Jones, the season that he was having up to that point, he was playing with a fractured fibula and then he blows out his Achilles. It's just you never want to see somebody leave the game in that capacity, especially because you know that injury can take a lot of time to come back from. But I mean, the Colts needed somebody and I cannot believe it. But old Philip Rivers, man, he's still coaching ball, so he's probably in shape. They just finished season.

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Literally. Old Philip Rivers. Yeah, like he's 44, right?

[C]

Dude, he's got how many.

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I saw him about a year. A little over a year ago in Alabama.

[C]

I bet he still looks good. I'm not bad.

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He didn't look like he was ready to play.

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He was in Roethlisberger shape, like. Yeah.

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So this is what I know sucks for Daniel Jones.

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Sucks.

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He was already gotten through it. He was obviously hurt. Then to teres Achilles, which is going to be nine months to a year. And then we've seen the quarterbacks that have come back. You're not even right when you come back, even when you are cleared. If you're Aaron Rodgers, if you're Kurt Cousins, it takes you another year to really get back. He's going to be a free agent too. Ah, that also sucks, especially after the.

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Year he was having.

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Now here's what's terrible for the Colts. Anthony Richardson gets hit in the eye with a ball pregame, fractures an orbital bone. He's out there. Riley Leonard, he's questionable to even play next week because he had a leg injury. He was the quarterback that went in after Daniel Jones. He gets hurt. Wildly inexperienced, obviously a rookie, but he's also hurt. So they bring in Philip Rivers Monday night. As we're recording this, it was last night to work out sign him to the practice squad. He has a relationship. So he grew up right down the road from Riley Leonard. Different ages, but like he mentored Riley Leonard a little bit.

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Right.

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They grew up near each other. He's also played because he played with the Colts for a while. He played with Jonathan Taylor. He played with.

The lineman Nelson.

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Nelson.

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Nelson. And he also played with Pittman. I believe he did. So while they were all there. So there's some familiarity there.

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Right.

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I can't imagine they're going to roll him out and have him throw 45 times next week.

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I hope they do, and I hope he throws for 500 yards.

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It's a fun story. If he comes and plays. Okay.

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But he's been a pocket passer for his whole career. I'm sure he's still got his. The footwork and he's been throwing a little bit, but it is pretty wild. When you been out of the game for what now? How many years has he been out?

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Four years.

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Has it been that long?

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Four or five years. Yeah.

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He's up for the hall of Fame already.

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Five years. Because he's up for the hall of Fame.

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You're right, he is. Does now, does that delay that for another five and you can go back in as a first ballot as soon.

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Yes. As soon as you take a snap, you're five year again.

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Let's go.

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One snap in a game, you're off the ballot for five years.

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Dude, I'm telling you, this is a great story.

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It's like the Rookie, the movie, the Disney movie where the old guy goes back. Now, he had never played before, but I can't imagine anybody being older than him. Aaron Rodgers or Joe Flacco? I believe they're the oldest two, and I don't think they're as old as Philip Rivers.

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No. Aaron Rodgers is 42.

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41. 42.

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Flacco's 40.

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Rodgers has got to be 42.

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42, yeah. 42. Yeah.

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Dude, that's awesome. That's like me. That's like you, huh? Let's.

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Why can't we get Castle in there? Dude, I've got less kids, so. Less responsibility. I don't have a grandchild. I mean, I definitely have.

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You're right.

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Yes. He has a grandchild. Maybe he's. Is he the first guy? Is he the first guy? That's what I want to know. First guy to ever start or play in a game that's an official grandpa. Probably not.

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Surely not. But still, that's. That's wild.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Brett Favre.

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Farve was a grandpa.

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Grandpa in his final season in 2010.

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Wow.

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I'm really rooting for him. That would be such a great story. If he comes out and is pretty.

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Good and they win because they're still in the mix. It's them and the Jaguars, right?

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The wheels are falling off fast.

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Yes. Really fast.

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If Joe Flacco can do it, I think.

[C]

I hope Flacco's at least been in the game over the last so many years. It's a little bit different.

[A]

It's got to be crazy for those students too, that were on his high school team because when he's coaching, he's the guy that used to play in the NFL and I'm sure that's really cool. Some of them probably didn't even remember him playing. However, now their coach is going to be playing. They're going to be able to watch their coach go back and play and start at quarterback.

[C]

Don't kid yourself. Every one of those kids are going to be in the stadium that first game in their own section. He's getting them all tickets. That'd be pretty cool.

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Yeah, it's a good story. I'm glad you brought that. If you didn't. I was coming out with one.

[C]

I figured you would.

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Yeah, I'll do my power rankings.

[C]

Yes. I love power rankings.

[A]

Just missing the list this week at number six, the Kansas City Chiefs.

[C]

I knew that was going to be right there. I mean, I was wondering if they were still going to be in the.

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Top five, but they're not.

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Yeah, sadly.

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Sadly, they're six and seven. Now if they win these final four games, they could, they could still possibly be in the mix. But they've got two tough games. They've got the Chargers and Broncos. They've got two easy wins, which are the Raiders and Titans. So I did go on DraftKings and bet them to make the playoffs. They were like plus 3:30. So is they're not expected to make the playoffs.

[C]

Well, let's see right now for the wild cards, you've got the Bills, you've got Houston.

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The Bills could still win their division though, because they're playing. They're.

[C]

They could still win their division, but still you got. Then the Patriots would be a wild card.

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Yes.

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Then you've got Houston right now as a wild card team and the final wild card team. Why am I blanking? Houston's the last one and then the Colts and Ravens. Yeah, Colts and Ravens.

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So in the hunt, Colts and Ravens. Yep. And what's the Colts and Ravens record right now?

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8.

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And Colts 8 and 5.

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Ravens 6 and 6. 7.

[A]

So if the Ravens are in the hunt at 6 and 7, so are the Chiefs because they're 6 and 7.

[C]

But two games behind.

[A]

Yes, but I'm saying if we're putting. I love the in the hunt graphic. It's, it's a meme itself.

[C]

In the hunt.

[A]

If the in the hunt graphic is up and they've Got the Ravens at 6 and 7, who just lost to the Steelers, by the way.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And I think something's wrong with Lamar, even though they're not saying it. Also, Baker Mayfield put him on the list of people that's probably hurt.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

That they're playing through and they're not telling us what's up. If Baltimore's in a six and seven in the hunt, the Chiefs have to be in a six and seven in the hunt.

[C]

They're still in the hunt, but in the hunt. On the graphic, though, graphic wise, they're.

[A]

They gotta be in the hunt.

[C]

They're always in the hunt.

[A]

And the Dolphins gotta be in the hunt. Yep.

[C]

And the Bengals, technically.

[A]

Technically.

[C]

Technically, not really. They've got, what, four wins?

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Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. It's gonna be a tough task.

[A]

So Kansas Chiefs would be my number six.

[C]

Number six. So we've now gone to. Our ratings. Have gone from top five to top six.

[A]

Well, no, that's my honorable mention at number five.

[C]

Number five.

[A]

The Bills at nine and four. The Bills do have a massive opportunity to move up because they are playing the Patriots next. They do inner division and afc.

[C]

Oh, it's a. It's a playoff game. There's no doubt about that.

[A]

So the Bills at nine of four, a.

Gutsy home snow win against the.

[C]

Bengals, down by 10.

[A]

And what started off as a purely offensive spectacle ended with two defensive interceptions.

[C]

And that was. Those were the plays of the game. That's what swung it all for them. And one of them, look, Burrow was doing the right thing. He saw it on the screen. No, it was a corner blitz. Actually a corner blitz off the edge. And so the receiver, Jamar Chase, was in a cut split. So what happens is on that, we call it a side adjust, which is kind of like a hot to the front side, but on the weak side, we call it a side adjust. So you see a secondary player coming that's unblockable. They're going to adjust their route. So he's going to get with toward the sideline and just be ready for the ball. Trying to get the ball out quick. Joe just didn't get enough height on it because it was a cut splitty. The guy closed, closed that distance quickly, was able to tip the ball up or catch the ball and take it back. But it was the right decision. It just unfortunately for Joe Burrow, he didn't get it over that defender. They always got to say, you got to make that guy miss. I was like, yeah, it's easier said than done. So I understand everybody's like, that was the worst pick I've ever seen. I was like, no, that's exactly what he was supposed to be doing. It just unfortunately didn't work out. And then the next one was the tip ball. By the way, as quarterbacks, there's nothing more frustrating in the world than a tip ball at the line of scrimmage and then interception. I'm just going to say that out loud.

[A]

I feel for him. It turns me on when you go full quarterback on me. Like, he just turns into the Incredible Hawk because He's, you know, Mr. Energy. He's having a good time. All of a sudden he's like, Robo split 40, 42. So, like, yeah, all right. Like, are you all right?

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Dropping my phone.

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Number four of the packers big win over Chicago. The Bears dubbers. The Bears are no longer the number one seed in the nfc. They were. They were not anymore. Big one for the Packers. Those two have to play again. I think next, not after this week. They play the Broncos this week. So big game for both the Broncos and the Packers. But I think after that, they then go to Soldier Field in Chicago and play the sucker.

[C]

But I also think Chicago put them on notice, like, hey, yeah, it's a great game. We're here for it. And even that last play that got intercepted by Caleb Williams, I mean, the tight end had. He had separation on the back end. If you just put more trajectory on that ball, there's a possibility right there that that's a touchdown. There's no doubt about it. So it was a great game, though.

[A]

Caleb Williams makes so many, I mean, four or five great athletic drive saving plays and then makes a Couple still boneheads. But I feel like you're starting to see that shift where it's more of the good and less of the crazy bad. There's still some of that crazy bad that rears its head at times for sure because it hasn't been coached out of him yet. But you can really see that he's going to be a really good quarterback.

[C]

I mean, and he's only in year two and if you even go back to college. Right. He didn't really start his first year. He played two full years of college, won the Heisman Trophy in his first year as a starter at usc. So he hasn't played that much football, comparatively speaking to some of these other guys that have played. And like you said, he is absolutely incredible at all the spectacular plays. And then it's just sometimes it's those intermediate routes where he'll just miss and I'm like, he's so much better than that. But the growth and maturation process of this kid has been fun to watch this year.

[A]

Number three, the Patriots 11 and 2. They're going to play the Bills.

[C]

Patriots 11 2.

[A]

What I like.

They play pretty much disciplined football early. They didn't. There was some real struggles early.

[C]

Yeah, they lost to the Raiders.

[A]

Yes. I think now they play very disciplined football and I think that's just a variable system. But when you have so many coaches whose job it is to find kinks in the armor, cracks in the system and the Patriots are being glazed all the time. Their quarterback is, I think, second for MVP right now. Dragman, number two.

[C]

He's got to be Price. Stafford one.

[A]

Yeah, I would think that's the case.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

That eventually, according to the rules of the NFL, you can only climb so high before somebody knocks you down eventually. And I think that's going to be the Bills.

[C]

I think it's going to be a great game.

[A]

I don't want it to be. I want the Patriots to win.

[C]

Right.

[A]

But to be 11 and 2 this.

[C]

Early, this early in Mike Vrabel's first year as your head coach at the Patriots, coming off a four win season, a lot of dramatic change in terms of personnel, a lot of young receivers. I mean, this is a young, young football team. But what I think for me the thing that's impressive is they're getting it done in three phases. Special teams has been a really important part of their success. Defenses come together collectively. Now they still have their holes. They gave up some rushing yards against the Giants and all that stuff. And they're going to have to Figure that out. But then the offense and the way that Drake May is playing and some of the young talent that they've been able to bring in through the draft like Travion Henderson and guys like that that are immediate impact players. It's. It's a team that is future is really bright. Speaking of bright, and it could be this year.

[A]

Stafford, number one, by the way.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Is May number two. Yeah. Which is crazy to think he's a second year guy. You know my thing about second year guys.

[C]

Yeah. You know what? I get it. You know who won a Super bowl in a second year? Brady. I'm just saying. He did.

[A]

Yeah. But he didn't start the whole season.

[C]

He started week three on.

[A]

Okay, you heard what I said.

[C]

Okay. That's a true statement.

[A]

Yeah. Number two, the Seahawks.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Big jump up.

[C]

Big jump.

[A]

They're playing the Colts next week.

[C]

Were they honorable mentioned last week?

[A]

No, I don't think so. They may not have even been in the top five because they had just got beat by the Rams.

[C]

That's what I thought.

[A]

And the number one's the Rams. And I have to Miami, Notre Dame them because head to head, the Rams won. So you got to put them in. But I have the rams at number one 10 and three versus the Lions next week.

[C]

That'll be a big one.

[A]

So that'll be a big one for the li. More so the Lions. That NFC is wild because it's just full of good teams.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Like not a team that you go, I'm going to bet the farm on any one of the teams. But there's so much parity on the NFC side. There's like six teams that I feel like could represent the NFC in the Super Bowl.

[C]

There's no doubt. And especially in the NFC west because we're not talking about the 49ers who obviously have had a lot of injuries and all that stuff. But just think about that division alone. They're all right there in the mix, but they've only got three, four losses total. And they're all competing for that and they're going to play each other down the stretch.

[A]

Rams, Seahawks, Packers, 49ers. They didn't make the list. But that's also an NFC team. Like Fred Warner is not coming back.

[C]

No.

[A]

But pretty much everybody else is. Right.

[C]

Is Bosa coming back?

[A]

No, he isn't coming back at all.

[C]

He's out too.

[A]

Do we still feel like they could win at all?

[C]

It would be really difficult. But they still have Christian McCaffrey. Look, that guy's awesome. Brock Purdy's been playing well. They've got a good enough team to where they can compete with anybody and they're very well coached.

[A]

The Lions are coming on.

[C]

They are. But you go back two weeks ago when they played the packers and it didn't look like they were coming on.

[A]

Two weeks ago, though. This is the NFL.

[C]

This is the NFL. Week by week. We make our judgments based on how you played last week. Okay. That's why the Chiefs are honorable mention at 6.

[A]

Well, they'd be like 31 if it were about last week. Although the Texans, man, their defense is so good.

[C]

Gosh, they're good. They're so good between them. The Texans, I think have the best defense in the NFL and I could argue that with anybody. The second best defense. Denver Broncos. Yeah, I'd say those are the two best defense. They're just dominant. They can rush for and get to the passer and they are so disruptive. And the quarterbacks, you can just, you watch those games and you're amazed because they have a split second to make a decision if you, if the ball's not out, you're getting hit or you're getting a sack.

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[C]

Ooh, Bills haven't played as well on the road this year. Patriots are coming off a buy. I'm going to go with the Patriots at home.

[A]

I would like to see that happen. I think I'm still too Josh Allen.

[C]

I mean some of those that he had in crunch time. I mean he is one of those guys that can put the team on his back at any moment and take over a game.

[A]

You're going Pats, I'm going Bills.

[C]

Okay.

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Lions at Rams.

[C]

Lions at Rams.

[A]

Lions have to win this one or they really need to win this one versus the Rams who don't really have to unless. But they are trying to keep that number one seed.

[C]

They want to keep the number one seed. I'm going to go with Rams at home. Yeah. It's hard for me to go against Stafford and also travel. Everything else that goes on. I mean home field advantage is real.

[A]

Packers at Broncos.

[C]

I'm going to go crazy here and go packers in an upset. Is it an upset? What's the spread here?

[A]

I don't know the spread, but I think the Broncos are probably, if I'm guessing Broncos are probably a one and a half point underdog. We'll go to Kevin in a second to get the official here, but I'm going to go. I mean, I don't think that it's. It's crazy either way. What do you see?

[C]

Two and a half.

[A]

Green Bay is favored by two and a half. Hey, I was close.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. I'm going with Green Bay. That defense is both of these defenses. I think it's going to be a defensive battle between these two guys.

[A]

You know what? Screw it. I'm going to go to the Broncos.

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I like it.

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Hey, Charlotte. Big fans, thank you for coming on our show.

[E]

No, thanks for having me.

[A]

We were just talking about injuries a second ago and Matt here, who played in the NFL for a decade, my question to him is always, after every game, does something hurt? And I've watched so many of your matches and I want to ask you the same question. Like it every match, does something hurt after?

[E]

No, but I think the small, random bruises are what hurt the most. Like, I'll have a random bruise on my forearm. I'm like, why does that hurt so bad? I don't even think I hit my forearm.

[A]

Can you watch the match back and then see where you hit your forearm to kind of match up, puzzle together the. The bruises?

[E]

If I went back and watched, I probably could. Yeah.

[C]

I want to know how you keep yourself so physically fit and what your training regimen is when you're on the road. Because it is a rigorous schedule for you guys. You guys are always traveling. And so I just want to know what that looked like from a nutrition standpoint and from a workout standpoint.

[E]

I think it's just making the time for what is important to you. For me, I feel being athletic, being in shape, keeping up with my training has what's kept me in the game. And plus, I just like it consistent, like consistency. I always like to work out before I go, you know, to the show. It kind of is like my decompressor. Think what I'm gonna do today, do for the day. Think of my promo, what the match is going to be like. Kind of gets me in the mood, but everyone's a little different. I know some of the Wrestlers like to go get a coffee. Maybe they'll go, you know, to their favorite breakfast place. For me, it's like, okay, I like the hotel gym, or if I've been to the city before and I know they have a really good gym, I'll go to that gym. It's just part of my routine. Everyone has their own routine that works for them.

[A]

Are you ever on, like, a small hotel's gym, like a Super 8A Ramada, and someone is looking at you going, there's no chance that's Charlotte Flair working out in this hotel gym?

[E]

Sometimes. I was actually in Milan last summer and the guy was like, are you Charlotte Flair? And I was like, yes. He's like, what are you doing in Milan? I'm like, oh, I'm just passing through her work. It was so random because half the time I'm like, oh, no way. There's no way anyone's going to recognize me because I'm like, my hair is a mess, no makeup, have a hoodie on. But the guy was like, oh, my gosh. It was really. It was wild.

[C]

In college, you were a great volleyball player. Could you tell us a little bit about what you found out about the skills that you had in volleyball and how, if any, translated to the actual ring?

[E]

I definitely am a better wrestler, but playing sports my whole life has definitely taught me, you know, team values, leadership, competitiveness. I always think it's interesting talking to a wrestler that doesn't have any kind of athletic background, or if they've never played a sport, how does competition come to them? Or is it really just the entertainment value of it? Because, like, I'm just competitive by nature. Like, everything I want to do, I want to be the best at.

[A]

Matt's wife was an All American at USC volleyball player. So obviously their kids have tremendous genes because they're both, like, exceptional athletes when you were playing. And obviously you have great genes, too, based on, you know, your family and your lineage. But whenever you were playing volleyball, did you have goals of playing it in Europe, like going overseas to play professionally at all?

[E]

I did beat volleyball. Gabriel Reese was like my role model. So I know junior and senior year of high school, all I wanted to do was play in college. And then I got to college, and then in my personal life, my parents separated. I think my overall goals and what I wanted kind of changed. And I was also, like, the first time I was on my own. So when I quit volleyball, I definitely became lost. And then those dreams of being on the COVID of USA Volleyball magazine were Kind of lost under just the change. The changes that were going on in my family. I mean, I didn't know any different. So it was like, I got to college. My parents weren't. Not necessarily there for me, but they were having their own issues. So I was kind of. I don't know, I was kind of lost myself when I stopped playing, but that was like, those were goals of mine. When I was in high school, you.

[C]

Talked about being lost, but then obviously, you made the decision to go into wrestling. And what led to that decision? Ultimately.

[E]

Ultimately, I believe it was April or May. April.April of 2012. The Four Horsemen were inducted into the hall of Fame, and me and my little brother went to Miami with my dad. And we were at dinner with one of the producers for WWE at the time, and the producer and my dad were really trying to get my brother on the right path and able to get into WWE because it was always my little brother's dream. And then the producer looked at me at dinner that night and was like, hey, why aren't you doing this? And I kind of was like, oh, I don't know. I never, you know, pictured myself as Michelle McCool or Tori Wilson or Kelly. Kelly. But when he said it to me, my little brother was like, huh? What about me? But he was like, my nickname was Winky. He was like, winky, you could do this. Like, dude, we could do it together. And then three months later, after that dinner, I reached out to Hunter Levesque, Triple H, our boss, or my boss now, and was like, you know, I want to give this a go, and then the rest is history. So really, I started wrestling for my little brother, which was his dream, and then turned into mine. It was really that I never dreamed about being a professional wrestler. Never saw myself and in my dad's shoes or getting into the business, Like, I knew I could do the athletic part, but the glam, the beauty definitely didn't come natural to me, especially being an athlete my whole life, which now it's like, oh, you could be both.

[A]

Whenever you go and you first start training, like you say you've committed, the first couple weeks, few weeks, days, is it all you just taking bumps to see if you really want to do this? Is it really hard at first just to test you?

[E]

I was kind of like, oh, this doesn't feel good. Like, this hurts. Like the ropes hurt, the mat hurts. Falling, or as you say, taking a bump is not natural. So the first day, when my dad and my little brother took me to a ring in Charlotte, North Carolina high spots just to, like, fill it out. My dad was like, I don't even know if you're going to like this.

It's not taking bumps. It's just like, whoa. Like, the surface isn't steady. It's like, it's not bouncy. It's not hard, but it's. It's definitely different. And then the cables don't feel good, and you're just like, oh, wait, this is way harder than it looks like. Of course people make it look easy, but I don't know. It's just.

For me, when it was like, oh, this challenge is presenting itself. Okay, I'm gonna figure out how to do this, and I'm gonna figure out how to be good at it. That was my mindset, even though, like, it didn't feel good. And I think I broke my nose the first week of trying it.

[C]

How long did it take you to develop your character and be comfortable in that role?

[E]

Oh, I think I'm ever evolving forever, trying to develop. Definitely the first two years, I didn't even, like, know where to put my hands on my entrance. Like, it did not come natural. The athletic ness and, like, the. The moves and the. And the, okay, I can put a match together came easy. But the emotion, finding a character, the charisma, I think for me, that just hasn't stopped. Like, obviously, okay, you're Ric Flair's kid, so that was obviously something you just can't hide from. So either I was going to own it and embrace it or let it, you know, swallow me whole.

[A]

Whenever you're, you know, designing your wardrobe, and this is gonna be a very inside baseball question. Just from working. Just from working in television, do they give you, like, a stipend, or are you supposed to pay for it all yourself? Like, how does that. Cause I have a clothing allowance that my company gives me every year to buy suits for events or if I'm hosting stuff or when I did Idol, there was like, here's all this money for clothes. How does that work with you? Because you have some elaborate, crazy stuff.

[E]

No, it's. It's up to you to invest in yourself and, you know, what your character, the vision you have, what your character would wear, what it's like. So, no, that's all part of what I invest into Charlotte.

[C]

That's incredible. That's artistic in so many ways that I don't have. Yeah.

[E]

But I feel like I get it back just because I'm putting all of that into the character. For me, like, every character is different like, some characters don't need to wear peacock feathers, but that's what I have envisioned for mine. So, like, yeah, sometimes it's like, oh, I'm really spending a lot on this. But I know.

It'S what I love to do. It's my passion, so I feel like it's going to the right place.

[C]

Charlotte, you're arguably one of the most iconic villains right, in the business. Is it hard being the villain? And also, how do you know that you've done your job when the audience just absolutely despises you after a match?

[E]

Well, I think it's harder to be liked.

It's easier to be disliked.

No, I mean, when you're doing something wrong is when you're not getting a response from the audience. So whether it's for me, boos, cheers, or woos, I. As long as the fans are engaging, I'm like, that's a win.

[A]

And you say it's harder to be liked. I guess it's easier to be bad because universally, a lot of times when you know, you presented yourself, you were like, you're like the show. You're like, I am the greatest. I come from the greatest. You know that. Probably a pretty simple presentation, but to be a good guy, I would think there's more nuance in that. Is that true because you don't want to be fake and new like a cartoon character, but you also want to be liked?

[E]

Well, it's funny because I'm a good guy right now, and I think for me, after being on the main roster for 10 years, it's the first time it's an organic or I'm in an organic position of being a good guy where they truly do like me and want to see me succeed. But it's more because I've kind of let down the wall of the Queen being so perfect and where I'm like, if you would have told me 10 years ago, like, hey, it's okay, you know, to fall or to not succeed or not to win or not to be the best. People want to be able to relate to you. And for so long, I made this character that wasn't relatable because I'm like, okay, she's got to be the best. She has to have the best clothes, she has to be the best in the ring. She has to be the best on the mic, like, everything. Best, best, best. I mean, yes, it's amazing that over 10 years, I've become the most decorated female in the history of the company, but there's so much more to what makes these characters special. And I'm like, starting to realize, coming back around, it's like there are so many other nuances that make you likable that I kind of missed along the way. So it's like, I'm not starting. I'm definitely not starting over. But now I'm like, oh, it's not that it's hard to be a good guy, but the character can be more relatable, and that's what I'm learning. Like, it wasn't that hard. It was just I had to let my wall down because I feel like I had such a chip on my shoulder being Flair's kid, because it's like, no matter what I do, it's like, your dad's still Ric Flair, and people still want to talk about Ric Flair, and by no means is that a negative. So I could talk about my dad all day. Like, he. And what he means to the industry, what he means to me. But as, like, a. As a professional and someone in the business, you know, it's. I definitely had that chip on my shoulder, and I've carried it with me.

[C]

This whole time when I played. I found it hard sometimes to go home and not take my job with me. And obviously, for what you do and your Persona as the Queen, how do you separate who you are in the ring versus who you are outside the ring? And is it ever a conflict?

[E]

So for so long, I used to say, oh, I wish I was more like my character in my real life. Like.

I'm not as put together or perfect or as confident as the Queen looks. But when really, what's, like, made the character special over this last year is not being like that. When I was like, oh, those things do make me, like, unique and special. And that's really the message that I should be putting out there, you know, for kids who are watching, because I feel like that's the most important part of our. Not even the job is like, you know, we do it for the fans, and the WWE Universe is the heartbeat of what we do. And being a role model for, you know, boys and girls and teenagers is really special because I don't think. I don't know. I mean, I don't even feel like when I say, oh, I have a job, like, it's not a job to me. It's like, I get to wake up and do this every day.

[A]

I have two nerdy final questions for you, and they're nerdy, as in wrestling. So I want to go first to WrestleMania. I remember it was, you and which one you, Becky Lynch, Ronda Rousey?

[E]

I have that gear framed on my wall.

[A]

And what's great is it was the first time that, you know, that women had headlined WrestleMania and it was a massive event. And, and I remember just thinking, I wonder if they've put extra pressure on themselves since it's. They're the first. Like, were you so hyped up going into it or was it. Or were you so calm because you.

[E]

Had to counter that for that specific first ever? I just remember my entrance was I came in on a helicopter and I just remember walking down the ramp and being like, I said I was going to main event WrestleMania in 2014 in media, and everyone just kind of thought that I was saying it for a headline or to get attention. Like, no one ever thought that was going to be a possibility. So when I, when I was walking down the ramp at 35 in MetLife, I was like, I did exactly what I said I was going to do and I'm exactly where I should be. So I wasn't, I don't, I don't know if this is the phrase. Like, I was in my bag. Like, I knew, Like, I believed everything I was and I was meant to, like, be one of the three of those, like me, Rhonda and Becky were meant to be there that night because it was the best story that whole year.

[A]

My final question is, and I love WrestleMania, but my favorite event as a fan is watching Royal Rumble because you just don't know who's going to come out. Like, it's, it's just the best. And after you'd been injured and you've been out for a long time and you came back and I think you were, I don't know, 26, 27. It was near the end, obviously. You come out and you win Royal Rumble and like, I don't know you, but I was like, pumped for you. Because anybody fighting back from an injury, a long term injury, like, I know what that's like. And so I was super pumped for you. Although I was nervous. Like, anytime you're up on the Turnbull, I was nervous you were going to rehearse yourself. You're in a knee brace, the whole thing, right? Like, I'm watching it all.

[E]

When you finished, it was bedazzled.

[A]

It was bedazzled. Yes. Were you, did you already know that you had the capability to do all the moves or did you wait to try some of that stuff until you were in the ring?

[E]

Oh, I just waited till I was in the ring for Some of the stuff. But there is a school here. I'm gonna give Flatbacks a shout out. One of my favorite coaches, his name is Tyler, well too Tyler Breeze and Ty Dillinger helped get me back in ring shape because for where I'm at, I guess in my career it was more about getting my wind back and feeling comfortable in the ring instead getting in the ring and like needing to do all these moves. So I was very much prepared from a cardio standpoint. And ring shape is much different than getting on a tre treadmill at the gym and running for 20 minutes or sprinting or the Stairmaster. Like, those things can be hard, but I say this to a lot of the new girls, but you can literally just like blow yourself up on your insurance because you're so nervous. So that's where you're like, slow down. Take those breath. Take, take, take those minutes and time. So I like had all that down. But no, like, I remember, like you said, when I, when I got on the top to go, I wasn't nervous about those things. It was more nervous of I had been off for over a year and when you're not at work, you're not on. Like, I didn't have to pretend to be the queen or I didn't have to be the queen or elicit emotions from 70,000 people. So it was like, when you've been off in a way, you're like, will they remember me? Or when your music hits, are you gonna feel like, you know, that bad? You know, you are like, how do you get mentally there? Because I hadn't, I hadn't had to get there or I'd never been injured that long. So that was also like mentally tasking. When anyone's who dealt with an injury, it's like the machine keeps going, but you're like trying to figure out how you, like, how do you get in that mental space where it was just go, go, go for so long.

[C]

Yeah. My final question would be, since you've achieved so much 14 time world champion, what is the next mountain that you're looking to achieve in the wwe?

[E]

Well, the first easy answer is, I really want to main event WrestleMania again, whether it's night one or night two. That's, you know, the easy answer. But I think personally and professionally, it's continuing to grow as a character and show layers and really take this, you know, babyface run to wherever it's going. Because I don't think anyone in the WWE universe had Alexa Bliss and I on their bingo card as one of the fan favorite duos for 2025. So I'm really excited to see what 2026 holds for us.

[A]

Charlotte, we really appreciate the time. Massive fan. Thanks for hanging out with us. And you guys follow Charlotte. Charlotte, wwe and yeah, thank you. Just a big fan and glad you're healthy and looking forward to to watching you on. Do you say tv? Anybody say tv?

[C]

Cable television?

[A]

Yeah, I guess I just watch it on my phone.

[C]

Pay per view?

[E]

Netflix or espn?

[C]

Netflix or espn.

[A]

All right, bye Charlotte.

[C]

Thanks, Charlotte.

[E]

Thanks guys. Appreciate.

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Okay, my second point is I do want to spend a minute with Shadur Sanders and talking about him and I have been an advocate of his and I've also tried to be honest about his performance. I love his dad, had a relationship with his dad. Not romantic, just friends.

[C]

Just a loving relationship.

[A]

Yeah, so I was rooting for Shitter and let's go. He's played in four games. He started three games. So we got really a body of work of three games, 770 passing yards, five touchdowns, three interceptions. But let's look at the Raiders. That was a win. That was when Shadora comes out, goes 11 for 20 for 209, a touchdown interception. It was hey, this guy might be pretty good. Against the 49ers. A loss. He was 16 for 25 for 149 and a touchdown. A bad loss. 49ers are good.

[C]

49Ers are really good. But no turnovers. That's very important.

[A]

Then it was. The narrative was maybe he's not that good. Look to last week. They did lose 31:29. But he went 23:42 for 364, three touchdowns and an interception. I'm going to be as unbiased as I absolutely can be about Shitter. He does have two good performances but they were against basically the worst two teams in the league. He had a big yardage game against the Titans. Now they lost. He wasn't in at the end of the game for the two point conversion.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

All those things happen and we could, we could go through that all day. My point is even his successes have been against such bad teams. I don't think we've got an accurate read or not on whether he's good. He could be good. They've given him the rest of the year. They said he's going to start the last four games of the year good. So fancy is like we're in Shader's our guy. We have four. I think him playing better teams is going to give us a better look if he's actually good or not. Because I don't think you can go Raiders at and Titans. Those teams are terrible.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You can't look at those teams and say he's down the line. Yes. And the 49ers game, not a great game. So I think we're at square one with Shitter at this point and I'm not. He's the guy. I'm also not. He's not the guy. But I do want to look at his whole body of work and I he. He's played well against bad teams and bad against good teams. I think he's got four games to prove himself. And if he doesn't and the Browns get one of those top picks, do they go and draft a quarterback? Because they'll have a top five pick and you've got a few quarterbacks in there. They could be selected in those picks.

[C]

You could be. And I think for Shador, it's always a tough circumstance as a quarterback to come in at the juncture in the season that he did. Right. He was thrown in because Dylan Gabriel got hurt. But then he starts getting starts and every start you learn something, you start getting better. What's impressive to me is leading up to that Point he probably got no first team snaps. He got limited practice snaps with the receivers on the field. The communication, hearing the cadence with the offensive lineman, building that rapport because look, you're running practice squad. So the fact that he's been able to come in and not play extraordinarily well, but play well enough to see that he's making progress, you can see some of the big time throws that he's made. There's some highlight reel plays on there that you're like, okay, I see it now. It's just consistently do it and as you said, it's about better competition. Now it's also somewhat unfair to evaluate him against the big dogs in the NFL right now because he's playing on a team that's lacking, have little dogs, have little dogs, but he's playing on a team that's struggling offensively from a wide receiver and the weapons that they have, offensive lines, so on and so forth. So that's a lot to put on a young quarterback and say go win ballgames against good slash elite competition. But as long as he keeps moving forward, taking care of the football, you see the pocket presence, you see his instincts, he's got natural instincts back there and I saw that going back to college, also his toughness. So if he can make an impression over these last four weeks and continue to build on some of these performances and do it against better competition, then maybe he makes a case for himself going into next year.

[A]

And maybe they won't have to draft a quarterback because I think they have to draft a quarterback. If they don't have a quarterback.

[C]

Yeah. And they've got, they need a lot of help. I think defense is obviously their strength and what's been keeping them in a lot of games. Even though the Titans scored a lot of points last week, which was somewhat of a surprise to me, but they're going to have a lot of holes that they have to fill. Will quarterback be one of them? I still think that they're going to have to go out and find a quarterback somewhere in free age.

[A]

That's got to be the first thing, right?

[C]

First thing. Well, unless you sure up an offensive line and give them some weapons. We've seen it time and time again with every first round draft pick and quarterbacks, you especially first overall quarterbacks that go to bad teams, they usually struggle, they go through adversity because there's so many holes and you can't play the quarterback position by yourself. There's only a few guys that may be able to get by and win games consistently. I'd say Lamar Jackson because of his skill set and because of his unique talents. Josh Allen's one of those guys that's different. Patrick Mahomes. But even those guys will struggle against good competition if you don't surround them with talent in an offensive line.

[A]

But I think the reason you draft a quarterback before you draft everybody else is you may not get another top five spot in the years coming up where you may not have the opportunity to draft a good quarterback. So with those 11, pick 13, pick 7, pick 4, you can then draft later and fill the other holes. If you get a top three pick and you need a quarterback, you either have to trade down and get a bunch of picks and fill holes or you draft a freaking quarterback.

[C]

Right. And I think that all goes into the valuation process of how do they view this guy? Is he a friend? Because he has to be a franchise guy. If you take him in the top three picks, period. If you have any question marks about him that in a different year's draft he could be outside the top 10 or something like that. You can't invest in somebody like that that you don't fully 100% perceive as a starting quarterback or franchise quarterback.

[A]

There are probably two quarterbacks, Oregon and Indiana. Those are probably the two places that.

[C]

You and Dante Moore. I, I find it hard to believe that he would leave after this year. And the reason I say that is because Oregon and the money that they can give to him now in the nil space to keep him there and the opportunity to potentially go win a national champion. Now look, they're in a position to.

[A]

Go win a national champion this year.

[C]

It could all change. But he started out hot. He had that mid season. It wasn't a skid, so to speak. He just didn't play as well as he did early on. And then he's turned it on over these last few weeks. But his talent level and his ability scream first round talent. And then the other guys. Fernando Mendoza, like you said you saw.

[A]

It against who would probably go one.

[C]

Yeah, we just got to work on his interviews.

[A]

I loved it. Nerdier the better. Yeah. All right, last point.

[C]

So excited you're up. Is it time to be concerned about Jalen Hurts and the Eagles? I think that's probably an easy answer. I, you know, Jalen Hurts. He had five turnovers. Two of them happen on one play. I get it. But then there's a tipped up ball.

[A]

I think you're about in the game.

[C]

Not even in the end of the game. The one over the middle. AJ Brown has his hands up. He's going to get hit. He's got to catch that ball, the one at the end of the game. I understand he's trying to fit inside window. That cornerback made a tremendous play to get his hand up there perfectly. It was outstanding. But in addition to that, Jalen Hurts threw a ball, a go route down the left field, left sideline to A.J. brown. That hit him in his hands. It wasn't that. The corner made an extraordinary play. It hit him in his hands, and normally he brings it in. He drops that play, that changes the trajectory of that game. So there are concerns, I don't think just about Jalen Hurts. I think it's about the Eagles and where they are from a momentum standpoint. Because now it's what, three straight? They've lost three straight and they have no momentum building into December. And as a football team that's hopefully going to playoffs, it's all about these months of building up. So you're playing your best football when you get to the playoffs. And right now, we're seeing them digress instead of move forward.

[A]

Lane Johnson ends up coming back. I think he'll be back before the end of the season. That'll be massive for them. Also, this is an offensive coordinator issue, it seems like.

[C]

Right.

[A]

Because you've got a lot of the same guys, but with less offensive line.

[C]

That's the only position.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

That really. They're different from last year.

[A]

Except for the offensive coordinator position.

[C]

Right.

[A]

Kellen Moore, which is now. He's now coaching the Saints. But also, don't be egging coaches houses. That's what they did. They went and egged the offensive coordinator's house.

[C]

That's so bad. But that's Philadelphia, too, right? Like, dude, one of our trainers got hit in the head with a snowball. I mean, they would. They're ruthless human beings out there. And if you're not winning and all this talk about Nick Sirianni, is his job in jeopardy? This, that and the other, I'm like, are you guys serious?

[A]

He won a Super bowl last year.

[C]

He just won a Super Bowl. Look, not two years ago. Defending champion four years ago.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

This year. And you're still in the lead in your division. I mean, it's wild to even think that people will speculate like that. But then again, what's his name? Peterson. Doug Peterson. He won in what, 17, and got.

[A]

Fired in 19 or 20. Like, at least there was a gap year.

[C]

I know that's a pretty short gap year. You just won a Super bowl too. So I don't. I know that that's where it's probably stemming from. But if you look at Nick Sirianni's record over his first four, four years there, you could put it up against anybody in the history of the NFL in terms of win percentage and all that stuff and a Super bowl championship and say it's comparable.

[A]

I don't feel like rational people are calling for Sirianni's job. I feel like Philadelphia fans are calling for Siriani's job.

[C]

Yeah, 100%.

[A]

My final point is Matt Castle had one career punt. 2008.

Bills in Buffalo. I think it was third down. Did you quick kick this?

[C]

Oh, quick kick, babe. Gap left, Quick kick, trips right. Gap left. Quick cap kick.

[A]

All right, here's a clip of Matt Castle and his. This is a, I'm going to say, delicious punt.

[C]

Saboomstick. One of the things the players appreciate is that Dick Geront never throws anyone under the bus, player or coach. And there's a quick kick.

By Castle. You gotta love Belichick. And he gets control down to the 10. Win continues.

[A]

It'll go all the way down.

[E]

Matt Cass, the best putter in the league today.

[A]

Okay, that was a 57 yard punt into 60 mile per hour winds. The wind took it all the way down to the one yard line. You're third and eight from your own 41 yard line. What was the, what was the call again? Gap kick, trips Castle.

[C]

Matt trips right. Gap left, quick kick.

[A]

When you hear that, do you get excited because you don't get to kick off?

[C]

No, I literally looked over the sideline like, say that again. Like, are we serious? Because I've been there for four years at that point and we'd always practice these situational football. A lot of them wouldn't come up, but actually I'd say a majority of them did come up. But this had never come up. And it just happened to be that there were 60 mile per hour winds that day in Buffalo. It was brutal weather conditions. I think we only threw like 8, 9 passes in the entire game because you could not control the ball when you're throwing it more than five yards. So we're late in the game. I think we're up two scores at that point. But we had the wind at our back. We were not kicking into the wind. We were with the wind. And so this call comes in and I was stunned. And so like I said, I look over, I said, repeat that and Josh says, trust me. Hey, I said trips Right gap left, quick kick as if it's a normal play. So I get in the huddle, I start saying, I remember Dan Cope in my center saying, castle, move up right now. Because normally I'd back up a step to about six yards, but he knew the wind was coming. We hadn't really been in shotgun all. All game, maybe other than three plays. So snap the ball. And I tried to catch that thing and kick it as quick as possible. Well, it did exactly what coach Belichick wanted. They were in defensive shell. They were as surprised as I would I was at the play came in, but I probably kicked it 25, 25, 30 yards.

[A]

It just kept rolling.

[C]

Oh, dude. And the wind just kept going.

And it was like, yes.

[A]

Were you fired up?

[C]

Oh, yeah, I think I. I was fired up because it literally was down on the one, but at the same time I was like, I'm getting a little bit more credit than I deserve, but I'll take that credit. It was pretty sweet at that point.

[A]

Yeah, it was awesome.

[C]

Well executed.

[A]

Thanks to Charlotte Flair for being on the show. That's Matt Castle. Sorry, do we need new chairs so you don't slide down?

[C]

No, I like it.

I feel good.

[A]

Dude, we've had these chairs for like a month and a half.

[C]

I know. I just. Maybe it's the pants I'm wearing. Normally I'm in jeans. They're just a little slippery.

[A]

Today I'm noticing him slide down over and over and he keeps, like hitting his microphone as he keeps sliding down.

[C]

Pretty tight over here.

[A]

So he's knocked his phone off the whole thing. He's really been struggling all day. Struggling today, guys. Sorry, that's kickoff. Kevin, that's Brandon Ray. Thank you, guys. We will see you next week. We've had lots to say.

[C]

Bye, everybody.

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