← The Bobby Bones Show
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Bobby Bones
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Matt Castle
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Bobby Bones
Is on your side.
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Matt Castle
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Matt Castle
To say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is a production of the NFL and iHeart podcasts.
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We got lots to say. We got lots to say.
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Bobby Bones
We're glad you're here and we hope you stay?
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Julian Edelman
Cause we got lots to say.
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Sean Merriman
Now here's Bobby in. Hey, welcome.
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Matt Castle
Wearing my jersey. New jersey sent to me by the Carolina Panthers. Keep pounding, baby.
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Bobby Bones
Dude, you were on that train for a while. I'm so happy that somebody responded. And now you've got your jersey. You look good in that color.
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Matt Castle
It's weird cause I'm not a blue guy. Is this blue?
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Bobby Bones
It's very blue.
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Matt Castle
Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
Are you colorblind? Yeah, a little bit. A lot of it or a little bit.
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Matt Castle
A lot of bit? Anything like over six on the dark spectrum.
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Bobby Bones
Really?
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Matt Castle
Yeah. It all starts to really blend together if we're putting a number to darkness. Around seven. All darks. Dark green, dark blue. It all looks the same.
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Bobby Bones
Well, that's about as blue as you possibly can get. Very, very blue.
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Matt Castle
Okay. Yeah. I keep pounding with the Panthers, my team now, and they sent me a whole box. I had jerseys.
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Bobby Bones
And they sent you some pads and game apparel.
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Matt Castle
Yeah, they put my name on the jersey. I saw they did the double name, though, which is weird and I appreciate it. But. But both names is kind of weird because it says Bobby Bones. They could have gone with Bones or Bobby. I'm not complaining. Just thought it was a little weird.
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Bobby Bones
Well, yeah, you rarely see both names, but it fits, right. Bobby Bones.
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Matt Castle
It's kind of weird to wear. I feel like a tool. I'm happy for. I'm going to put the jersey up. I have a bunch of jerseys that I put up on the wall that I have had given to me that were made for me, and I'm going to put this in that collection. But I do feel a bit of a tool wearing this jersey.
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Bobby Bones
No, absolutely. You've got to rock it for at least a week where you walk around in the community. This is your team now.
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Matt Castle
I don't walk in a community, period. Regardless of what I'm. Well, there's no community walking anywhere.
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Bobby Bones
There's no community walking. I can see you. Yeah. Around the house, maybe.
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Matt Castle
Well, glad you said. I was walking out. And my wife goes, what are you wearing? And I said, what do you mean, what am I wearing? Keep pounding.
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Bobby Bones
This is my team.
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Matt Castle
And she said, where'd you get the jersey? I said, they sent it to me. She said, I never thought that my husband in his 40s be walking around in a jersey.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah, get used to it. Sweet.
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Matt Castle
That's what I said. Get used to.
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Bobby Bones
Because every Sunday I'll be wearing this jersey right in front of the Television watching the Carolina pants Panthers ball out.
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Matt Castle
They won 30 nothing this last week. Dude, they embarrassed the Falcons.
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Bobby Bones
Embarrassed.
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Matt Castle
Like, the only game that was more embarrassing was the Indiana Illinois college football game. That's it.
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Bobby Bones
I was there. Yes, that was more embarrassing for Illinois. I'd say that for sure.
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Matt Castle
And we'll do the Panther game first briefly, because again, I watch it because I keep pounding, baby. And they had to flip quarterbacks. Next thing you know, Penix is out.
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Bobby Bones
Pennix is out.
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Matt Castle
Boys back in.
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Bobby Bones
Boys back in. Got it. I mean, he just. Penix was off in that game. And I didn't think that they were going to go to that extent and pull him out of the game, but they just pulled.
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Matt Castle
He was playing really bad.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah, he was playing really, really bad.
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Matt Castle
You know what's interesting about saying somebody's playing bad for you? I feel like you can say that because you played. When I say that, like, they're a thousand times better than I will ever be. But I was thinking about this last night because there are times I come on and I'm like, man, that dude did not play well.
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Bobby Bones
Yep.
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Matt Castle
Relative to other people playing the game, that's always my parentheses. I just want to state that. That's always my parentheses. If I'm like, man, he sucked today. Relative to other people playing the game, I know I can't play the game, but sometimes I go, man, you would suck if you were in the NFL. And I'm like, yeah, I have a conversation with myself. But yeah, relative to other quarterbacks.
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Bobby Bones
Relative to other quarterbacks.
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Matt Castle
He had a tough day.
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Bobby Bones
He had a really tough day at the office. And I there before. And I'll tell you what, those days are the worst because you just want to go into a shell. You can't get out of the funk. Every throw that you make, you make is something's just not clicking for you on that day for whatever reason. And when you get done, you kind of go to the locker and you're sitting there and you feel bad for your teammates because you let them down. Because so much of the quarterback position is always stepping up in those moments. But you just. Like anybody, any position can have a bad day, but when you're the quarterback, everybody sees it. And then you go home and you just. There's nothing you can say. You just gotta sit there, get your mind right. It takes about a day or so to kind of grasp the situation. Then you just gotta get back into your routine because that's the only way to do it.
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Matt Castle
I take back what I said. That was a bad. That's a butt whooping of a game. But also the Minnesota Cincinnati game was also a butt whooping of a game.
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Bobby Bones
Oh, my gosh. What? Minnesota had five turnovers in that game. They had an interception return, a fumble return. It was just.
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Matt Castle
That was a bad one. Then I would put to college. I don't know. That may be number one, though, because you were at the game. Yes, the Indiana Illinois game. And that was supposed to be a big, like a pivotal Big Ten matchup.
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Bobby Bones
It was because both of these teams are kind of in the same situation. Illinois had 10 wins last year, tied for the most in their program history. Obviously Indiana, that was a historical season for them. Eleven wins, College Football Playoff. They got beat in the College Football Playoff, but they're both were trekking in the same way. Right. They're trying to build that momentum so that they can have some sustainability, consistency. And I just thought it was going to be a really good ball game. And after about the first two possessions, Indiana manhandled them. And it was very evident that whatever you thought about Illinois, Indiana's a much better football team in every capacity.
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Matt Castle
Signetti to me, after that game, I think, not that I didn't respect it, but they had a pretty weak schedule last year. And when they ran into real teams, it wasn't good for Indiana. So they played favorable schedule last year, ran into Ohio State, not great. But now the only two teams they.
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Bobby Bones
Lost to which a lot of people like, well, when you guys played, played good teams. The two teams that they lost to was Ohio State, the national champion, and Notre Dame, who finished second.
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Matt Castle
Yeah. And so because of that, they didn't have any, what I would call real wins. So you're like, Signetti did a great job with Indiana, but who knows how good they really were because the schedule was so soft. However, they did play who was in front of them right now this year, you're like, man, maybe he has actually shifted it.
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Bobby Bones
I know. And that's the thing about Indiana, the remarkable occurrences that has happened with him coming in. He got a bunch of transfers that came in. And these guys this year, they brought in some more transfers. They got the quarterback, Fernando Mendoza from.
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Matt Castle
Cal, who's going to win the Heisman.
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Bobby Bones
Who might win the Heisman, who knows? I mean, he was 22 for 24 in the game with five touchdowns. The guy looks the part. He's a stud. He's got NFL talent written all over him. But the way in which you talk to some of these players in these production meetings and stuff, They've all got not just one chip, they got two chips on their shoulders. They've. They're bought in, and they know that they have to outwork these other programs every single day. And that was kind of the messaging that I took away, was in practice, they don't let anything slide and that they're going to go from the start of practice to the finish. And it's the same thing in the game. They're going to play every play like it's the first play of the game. And you see it when you. When you actually go see it in person when you watch them play.
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Matt Castle
You look good. Your jacket looked cool. I put a little comment. I was like, a plus jacket.
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Bobby Bones
Hey, you know, I've been. I brought. I brought the jacket. I do like that jacket. I was like, I got to dust this.
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Matt Castle
A little blue, black combo.
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Bobby Bones
Oh, yeah, blue, black.
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Matt Castle
I don't know my colors for sure. So I said, look like, yeah, blue, black.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah.
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Matt Castle
One other quick college thing before we get into the NFL stuff, I saw, because we record this on late Tuesday afternoon for a Wednesday release, that Gundy got fired at Oklahoma State. And that's where I went to school. He coached it for 21 years. Yeah. And if there is not a more, you either die a hero or live long enough to become a villain situation, because that's, you know, Harvey Dent in Dark Knight.
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Bobby Bones
Yes.
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Matt Castle
It's like, if you're a hero, like, you'll die as that or you'll be around long enough that people just start to not like you.
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Bobby Bones
And that's.
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Matt Castle
And that's what happened there.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah, absolutely. 21 years.
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Matt Castle
And it's gotta be weird to be fired by your alma mater.
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Bobby Bones
By your alma mater. And also the successes that he's had throughout his career and have had some really good seasons, put that team on the map and that program on the map. But these last few years have just been miserable.
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Matt Castle
They've been bad.
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Bobby Bones
And then, you know, he goes in the press conference a few weeks ago before Oregon and says, look, we don't have the resources. They can go out and pay. And Dan Laning's response was, some people pay and understand that that's going to create championships. Other people are not willing to do that, and as a result, in this world, you're going to be left behind. And then Oregon goes out and just absolutely drums them.
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Matt Castle
Yeah. When Dan Landing said, some people don't pay so they can make excuses, I.
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Bobby Bones
Was like, yes, that's the way. Exactly what he said. I was like, oh, no. This is going to be bad.
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Matt Castle
Yeah. So here we go. Let's go back and forth as always. You can go first. You're up.
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Bobby Bones
Are you surprised that the announcement was made today that the Giants are going with Jackson Dart?
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Matt Castle
Yes, a bit in that, because I don't have it up, but I think. Aren't they playing the Chargers next?
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Bobby Bones
That's the. That's. Yes, they are playing the Chargers.
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Matt Castle
Yeah. Yeah. That's why. That's where the only bit of surprise comes from, is that the Chargers are awesome.
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Bobby Bones
Yes.
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Matt Castle
And I, in my head coaching experience, have come to understand that you're really. It's not advantageous to the rookie to have to go out and play a really dominant defense right off the jump.
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Bobby Bones
It's not. Now with the offense, they had the great outing against Dallas, obviously Russell Wilson did, but they just become stagnant and they need a spark. And so if you're going to do it, I think that he's also day ball. And the organization's feeling the pressure from the outside. Right. Everybody's complaining, everybody's bitching, moaning. You feel that inside the organization they say, look, the kid's been playing in every game in some kind of small role, some capacity. Let's put them out there and see if we can be more successful offensively. If he can bring some other element of his game into it. Obviously he's got the ability to go up tempo because he did that at Ole Miss. Maybe that's something they want to do. But he also has the ability to take off and run with his legs and make. Make them play 11 on 11 football a little bit. But it is going to be a tough start against a Chargers team that could be the best in the league right now.
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Matt Castle
I think it's weird how thick his jewels are that he wears.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah, he's got some swag to him, doesn't he?
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Matt Castle
It's like too much. Yeah, I don't mind swag. I'm not old man yelling at the clouds. That's not me in any way. I think if you're the backup, you.
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Bobby Bones
Gotta tone it down a little.
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Matt Castle
Yep, I do. And when he's over there, he's got all his bejewelry on. He's bejeweled. I'm like, dude, you're the backup. Like, you kind of gotta earn wearing all that ice.
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Bobby Bones
Earn your stripes before you go out and flaunt.
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Matt Castle
If there was a rookie out there and he was wearing that, he's a quarterback. I always rather take it off of him during the game 100% as a rookie, I wouldn't if it's like a four or five year guy, if it's Justin Jefferson, if it's whomever and they're wearing that respect, you have earned that. You've earned it if it's a rookie. Kevin, do you see how thick that his necklace was? He was wearing under. I don't know if you'd seen it. No, I'm trying to look for it right now.
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Bobby Bones
Oh, yeah, go look for it.
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Matt Castle
Just him standing on the sideline and he's wearing it. You know, he's got his pads on, it's undershirt and you see the big. Oh, diamonds. Like one big one.
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Bobby Bones
But the real question is, as a quarterback, why would you wear a necklace that thick with that much bling? You're going to get hit, you're going to get tackled and that thing's going to get ripped off.
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Matt Castle
And I think an easy answer would be, well, he's backup, he's not going to play well. You knew the packet. There were packages.
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Bobby Bones
There was definitely packages he was in throughout the course of the game. And a lot of it was running packages. Yeah, let's just want to make sure everybody knows that I've made a little bit of money so far.
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Matt Castle
Those are huge. That's my point. Yeah, those are big. That's not like I don't want to be the again. I don't want to be the old guy on his front yard yelling at the cars. But it's just too much for this situation.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah, earn it. Have your first start, maybe even a first win before we go and start going to the jeweler and being like, hey, got a big game this week. Hook me up. I'm backing up Russell Wilson, but I got a few packages and it's going to be on television.
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Matt Castle
I'll be alternating out with Russell Wilson tonight. Watch me for my jewels. Okay, I'm going to go on mine and I'm going to talk about the Kansas City Chiefs. And just looking at their schedule coming up, they've got the Ravens coming up this week. An angry Ravens team. By the way, who thought Kansas City and Baltimore, battle of one and two teams.
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Bobby Bones
I know.
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Matt Castle
I believe they're both one and two.
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Bobby Bones
They're both one and two.
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Matt Castle
When the Ravens lost the game to the Lions, two one and two teams.
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Bobby Bones
Right.
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Matt Castle
That's crazy. So just looking at the chief schedule. So game four is in Kansas City. Ravens at Chiefs, Game five, Chiefs at Jaguars, Game six, Lions at Chiefs. So you're looking at game seven for when Rasheed Rice comes back.
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Bobby Bones
Yes.
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Matt Castle
God dang. They need some help. They need some help and game game seven is going to be probably when Worthy's healthy, when Rashee Rice is back. They gotta win at least one of those three games because if they're one.
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Bobby Bones
In five it's gonna be tough.
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Matt Castle
I don't know how they dig out of that hole, especially in that division with the Chargers who already have a one game lead on on the head to head regardless of the head to head.
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Bobby Bones
But don't they already they have two game leads, two divisions. Yeah. Two divisional wins already.
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Matt Castle
Yep. Foreign.
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Bobby Bones
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Matt Castle
So with the Chargers, with the Broncos, they gotta win one of these three, but man, it's a Chiefs team. Unlike, I'm used to watching.
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Bobby Bones
Well, it's. The dynamics of this team has switched because it was such an offensive team for so long and now defense has really held them in these games and they're playing at a really high level and it just doesn't have the star power on the outside right now because they're down so many weapons. I will say this, though. The Patrick Mahomes greatness shows up in these type of moments. When you bring in a guy, Tyquan Thornton, who was cut by the Patriots, what, last week, they bring him in and he's their leading receiver, has some touchdowns. He gets him involved. It speaks to the coaching of Andy Reid and his staff and them being able to take a guy that somebody else didn't want, recognize the talent, and then implement them into a game plan and not give him too much where he can still go out there and make plays. And Patrick Mahomes needs just one guy out there that he can make look like a star. And I think that's what all the great ones do, is they elevate the people around them. And regardless of who's out there playing, he's going to make plays somehow, some way.
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Matt Castle
So The Chiefs are 1 and 2. Let's just say they lose to the Ravens. They're 1 and 3. Let's say they beat the Jaguars. But the Jaguars are playing pretty good.
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Bobby Bones
I would say Trevor Lawrence has been on the struggle bus. He still is not.
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Matt Castle
But they're winning games, are they? Two and one.
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Bobby Bones
Right. But you want to see more of Trevor Lawrence. But I do think that they win.
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Matt Castle
That game and then they'll probably lose the Lions. So they're two and four. They get their outside weapons back. They can't really afford to lose any of those games.
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Bobby Bones
Then we got to go on a run. Because they've had one divisional game, right?
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Matt Castle
Yes, because they opened up.
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Bobby Bones
Open up with the Chargers.
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Matt Castle
Oh, yeah. No, wait. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They went Chargers, Eagles, Giants.
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Bobby Bones
Right?
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Matt Castle
Yeah. It's going to be a tough run.
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Bobby Bones
At the end of the day, though, all you have to do is win your division.
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Matt Castle
But all you have to do. That's the hardest division.
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Bobby Bones
It's the hardest division, football, maybe in the afc. In the afc, yeah. It's probably the best. It's the most competitive for sure.
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Matt Castle
All right, you're up.
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Bobby Bones
I was going to go with Dan Campbell. Is he the best head coach in football right now? And the reason I say that is he lost his two coordinators. They get beat in the first game of the season. But when you turn on that game last night and you watch the offense, the way that it operates, they still are running the ball effectively, but it looks exactly like it did when Ben Johnson was there last year. The defense, they're healthy again on defense. They're playing at a high level. They had seven sacks last night. And so I think it all starts with Dan Campbell. He had a vision for this organization when he first came in. He lost his coordinators, but they pick up exactly where they left off last year. Everybody has just kind of fell in. And that's because of his guidance in understanding what his vision is of this team and able to get the people that are coming into those positions of offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator to pick up right where they left off. And I mean, it's a testament to him as a head coach and also his leadership.
- [23:44]
Matt Castle
Massive win just because it's Baltimore, like, that's a statement win. But they only. They beat the Bears when they killed them, but the Bears kind of sucked. Yeah, I don't think we really had an idea of what the Lions were until this last week.
- [23:56]
Bobby Bones
Right. Because everybody's like, well, what are they going to look like? Ben Johnson? They struggled in the first game offensively, but the creativity's still there. And you even watch the third down play or the goal down near the goal line, what they scored on, they run, they hand the ball off, they run an option off the guy. I mean, all that's coming from Dan Campbell. I mean, and I think that that part is pretty exceptional when there is turnover in your organization, especially in those key positions that you have where you can still have consistency and success. And I think last night, as you just said, was a statement game because they bullied the bully.
- [24:30]
Matt Castle
You think Jared Goff's the most underappreciated quarterback in the NFL?
- [24:33]
Bobby Bones
That was my other point man, 100%. This guy's one gone to playoffs with two separate organizations, been in a Super bowl, is one of the most consistent quarterbacks you see. I mean, some of the throws he had last night, but in particular, just go to the fourth and two call with that ice the game where he just drops it in the bucket to Aman St. Brown. It was beautiful. And he was just tactical last night.
- [24:56]
Matt Castle
He.
- [24:57]
Bobby Bones
He threw the ball where he needed to, need to throw it. He took care of the football. He just runs the show, man.
- [25:02]
Matt Castle
All right, let's go with the winless teams. We have six winless teams left. God dang. They're still six.
- [25:07]
Bobby Bones
They're six.
- [25:07]
Matt Castle
Let's pick the worst. So we have jets and Dolphins, both winless and they're playing each other. So that's a winless bowl.
- [25:13]
Bobby Bones
Okay, so somebody's gonna win.
- [25:15]
Matt Castle
Titans and Texans, both winless. The Giants have not won. The Saints have not won. Those are the six. Correct. Who's the worst?
- [25:24]
Bobby Bones
I mean, it might be the hometown right now with the Titans, to be honest with you.
- [25:29]
Matt Castle
Yeah, they're pretty bad. It's not the Texans.
- [25:32]
Bobby Bones
They haven't been playing well. Their offensive line has been awful.
- [25:35]
Matt Castle
They almost. Boy, you hate to compare. Almost. But when they were playing the Jaguars, like, they almost came back and won that game.
- [25:41]
Bobby Bones
Yes. I mean, the Titans just. You've got a rookie quarterback, your offensive line is a little bit banged up. They. They just can't get out of their own way and they've got nothing to hang their hat on. Right. Defensively, I think they've got a little bit of an identity, but the defense is on the field too much. They're not being able to sustain drives. It's just. It's tough to look at that organization, especially with a rookie quarterback right now and all the holes that they have to fill and say you feel good about where they're at and I hate to do that to the Titans, but you gotta be real.
- [26:17]
Matt Castle
You think the Titans are worse than the Saints?
- [26:19]
Bobby Bones
I think you could flip a coin right now.
- [26:21]
Matt Castle
Yeah, me too.
- [26:22]
Bobby Bones
It would be pretty comparable.
- [26:23]
Matt Castle
So I'll go. Titans at one, the worst, Saints at two.
- [26:28]
Bobby Bones
They didn't just get absolutely manhandled.
- [26:31]
Matt Castle
I think the Giants are at three, especially if they're changing quarterbacks because I think there'll be a bit of a regression.
- [26:39]
Bobby Bones
There might be. Or he might look take the NFL by storm and be. The next thing you know, he'll have diamond earrings in, maybe a nose.
- [26:47]
Matt Castle
His helmet's. His helmet's bedasses covered in diamonds. I'm thinking the best of these bad teams probably. Well, the jets aren't gonna. How long is Justin Fields out? He was week to week because of the concussion. Right. Is he gonna play next week?
- [27:03]
Bobby Bones
I think he'll play next week, probably.
- [27:05]
Matt Castle
I think I'm going to put the jets at 4, the Dolphins at 5. I think. Excuse me. The Texans at 5. I think the Dolphins are the best winless team because they've won before. And if I had to pick a quarterback from all of them, I think I'm picking. I mean, it's between Tua and Stroud. And Stroud, really. He had a great rookie year, but even last year. Last year wasn't great.
- [27:28]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Even this last game he threw multiple picks and just has not gotten into a rhythm. But when you talk about has not gotten into a rhythm, I mean, you saw a little bit more from Tua against the Bills and that was a game that gave you hope for this team because they went toe to toe with them throughout most of the game. But Tua has not been playing well up to that point. And so he just hasn't looked like himself. He's. He's a guy that, you know, when he's playing at his best, this team could beat anybody because of the weapons that they have on the outside. So I guess you're saying the best quarterback of this group.
- [28:04]
Matt Castle
Yeah. Of the bad six teams, which quarterback do you want the most?
- [28:09]
Bobby Bones
Okay, I'll go with Tua. With you. That sounds.
- [28:11]
Matt Castle
It's a coin flip with him. A stroud. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a coin flip.
- [28:15]
Sean Merriman
All right.
- [28:15]
Matt Castle
What's your final topic?
- [28:16]
Bobby Bones
Final topic. Let's see here. You know what? I'm going to give some props to my boy Kevin o'.
- [28:22]
Matt Castle
Connell.
- [28:22]
Bobby Bones
Okay. And the reason I say that is, you know, during his tenure at the Minnesota Vikings, he's started seven different quarterbacks, and each one of those quarterbacks has had a win under. Under their belt. So the fact that Carson Wentz came in and they went out and dominated, it didn't surprise me because this guy knows how to coach the quarterback position and put them into a position to be successful regardless of their skill set. I mean, you go back to 20, 23, three consecutive games, he had three different starters at QB, which is pretty rare and exceptional. To think that no matter who he has under center, he's going to be able to try to be able to put them in a position to where their team can win a ball game.
- [29:08]
Matt Castle
See if I can name the seven Cousins.
- [29:11]
Bobby Bones
Cousins.
- [29:12]
Matt Castle
Yes, Josh Dobbs.
- [29:14]
Bobby Bones
Yes, Josh Dobbs. I got a great story about that.
- [29:17]
Matt Castle
Obviously, Wentz. Obviously. J.J. mcCarthy.
- [29:23]
Bobby Bones
Yep.
- [29:25]
Matt Castle
Obviously Sam Darnold. That's five. Who else for Minnesota?
- [29:32]
Bobby Bones
Nick Mullins.
- [29:33]
Matt Castle
I wouldn't have got any.
- [29:34]
Bobby Bones
And Jaren Hall.
- [29:35]
Matt Castle
Yeah, I got five or seven. I feel like I saw a B. I wouldn't have got those two. I can't believe they won games.
- [29:40]
Bobby Bones
I know that's. It's wild to think about, but it also speaks volumes about the type of coach he is. It's funny because when Kirk Cousins went down that year with the Achilles, I think it was, what, mid season or something like that. Kevin calls me and we're talking for a bit. I'm like, sorry, because I texted him, I said, sorry about Cousins going down, man. Hope you're doing well. And he. He calls me. He's like, hey, Cass, how's it going? We talked a little bit. I was like, man, Is he. Is he going to give me the nod? Like, he's going to bring me up.
- [30:09]
Matt Castle
Like.
- [30:11]
Bobby Bones
I was sitting in a blind that entire morning because a fox had taken out one of my chickens. And so I was going to get revenge on that bad boy. And then he calls him in the blind. And I was like, man, maybe this is, you know, maybe I'm going to get. Get a call up again, you know, and the next thing you know, say, hey, you think Brady would be interested in coming, Coming up here to play? He's like, you guys number? I was like, oh, I should have known. He's like, you got his number. I was like, I'll get it for you, dude. I don't know if he's interested or not. He. Because he was retired, but he was still five, five, six weeks in the season. I was like, if anybody would probably try to make a comeback, it would be Brady. So they had talked and all that stuff, and he's like, I'm just not interested, man.
- [30:51]
Matt Castle
It almost could have been. You could have been the eighth quarterback.
- [30:54]
Bobby Bones
I mean, that's what I was saying. I could have been one of those seven. I feel like, just tell me where to throw it, coach.
- [30:59]
Matt Castle
Final thing for me, and mostly I'd like your perspective because. And I go back to the Chiefs. It's the second time we have seen coach and player really scream at each other on the field. Right.
- [31:11]
Bobby Bones
So. Oh, and Andy body checked them. That was awesome.
- [31:14]
Matt Castle
Kelsey and Andy Reid. And I think the first time during the Super Bowl, Andy Reid was shocked that Kelsey hit him. I think he threw the body at him the second time.
- [31:22]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, he knew what's up.
- [31:26]
Matt Castle
Who. Who gets the liberty to scream at their coach publicly and, like, right on the edge of the sideline where everybody can see it.
- [31:34]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, it's. It's an interesting dynamic because obviously they've got a lot of respect for each other. Kelsey's earned the respect of that organization throughout the league for what he's accomplished. But at the same time, it's never a good look when you're screaming at your head coach or getting into this back and forth. And look, I've had plenty of them myself throughout my tenure, where you get in a verbal altercation because it is a game of emotion. And in the moment, it's not that you're necessarily thinking about your response and you're like, I gotta calm down. It's. You're reacting to what just took place on the field. You might be pissed off, but you could tell Andy was pissed off. About something he did on the field and how he ran a route, whatever it might be, that he knew that Travis could get done or do differently. And then as Travis is coming off, he's probably frustrated, but he did bump him. And then this verbal altercation goes back and forth. It's never necessary, but sometimes it happens for sure. But it is something that you know as a player and as a coach, in hindsight, you look back and go, that looks bad. Yeah.
- [32:41]
Matt Castle
I would think the move, the leader.
- [32:42]
Bobby Bones
Of your team, put your helmet on.
- [32:43]
Matt Castle
Before you scream at them if you're a player, because that way you don't really know where it's aimed. You don't see the mouth going, you don't see the eyes going. Like, I understand people yell at each other a lot on the sideline.
- [32:53]
Bobby Bones
Oh, yeah.
- [32:53]
Matt Castle
But I would have the helmet on. And that one was very in front.
- [32:58]
Bobby Bones
Right. And when you're a superstar, look, there's probably those type of examples that go on throughout the course of the game. Maybe not to the extent of what that was, but when you're the superstar and you're the head coach, you know the cameras are going to be on you non stop.
- [33:12]
Matt Castle
Especially if it's Taylor Swift's freaking fiance.
- [33:14]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. And then it's going to blow up and people are going to make the most of it. And of course, Andy Reid's going to protect his player. Travis is going to probably say the same thing and let bygones be bygones the next day and come in and, you know, hug it out or whatever it is, especially after a win. But it's something that probably will be addressed.
- [33:32]
Matt Castle
My theory is they really don't like each other.
- [33:34]
Bobby Bones
You don't think they like each other?
- [33:36]
Matt Castle
I don't. I think they play the role of, oh, superstar, fun coach, but I don't think they like each other. You don't do that twice.
- [33:44]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. It has been a very visible circumstance in the last two years where that's more than just a heated argument.
- [33:53]
Matt Castle
The first time I can understand, but there was so much about that first time that you would think, as it's about to happen. The second time you go, this has already happened once. I'll need to air my grievance in a different form. Maybe even 68 seconds from now. Walking back a few layers. Not. I just don't think they like each other.
- [34:14]
Bobby Bones
I think they do like each other. I mean, I'm just saying I think that they like each other. I think they're both ultra competitive. They want to do the right thing. I mean, Travis Kelce is getting a little bit older in his career and he's one of those guys that has always wanted the ball. The man's the ball. And Andy Reid at the same time is one of those guys that sees it from a 50,000 view, whatever the term is that I'm trying to use there, where he sees the big picture. And if he's not in the right position or he's done something that has directly impacted a play that could have been a conversion or something like that, he's going to let you know about it because that's why he's a really good coach. And the players on the field don't always understand that. And especially a guy like Kelsey who could be frustrated for a number of different reasons, he might not get the ball. Who knows? And I'm not going to speculate on what the argument was about. But on the other hand, I do think that they have a great respect for one another and he's a leader on the team and so they've got to find a way to get along.
- [35:08]
Matt Castle
I'll speculate.
- [35:09]
Bobby Bones
Speculate.
- [35:10]
Matt Castle
Annie Reid didn't get an advanced copy of Taylor's album.
- [35:13]
Bobby Bones
She sent him one for free.
- [35:15]
Matt Castle
That's why he's upset. All right, Sean Merriman. Coming up, we will talk to the great San Diego Charger Sean Merriman. Next.
- [35:25]
Sean Merriman
Foreign.
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- [40:37]
Matt Castle
We're about to go over and talk with Sean Merriman. You ever play against Sean?
- [40:40]
Bobby Bones
Played against him a bunch when I first came in the league was 2005. We were both drafted in that same draft class. We played San Diego my first year in the league. We got absolutely boat raced now I can tell you that. I remember Sean when we played him because we got beat that first year. It was like 41 to 17. I was a third string quarterback. So yeah, I kind of know stuff, but it was pretty early in the season. I don't, I didn't really know the personnel probably as well. And they're taking Tom out of the game and we're getting the ball back late. Two minutes. I'm guessing they're going to put Doug Flutie in, who was the backup quarterback at the time. And Belichick looks over and goes, castle, get your helmet. You're going in running. Two minute. And I was like, what?
- [41:20]
Matt Castle
As third string, he just skipped over.
- [41:21]
Bobby Bones
He skipped over Flutie and threw me in the game. So I go out, my adrenaline's going, throw a few check downs, but there's an out route deeper in the deeper down the field. So I step up to throw it. Arm gets hit, ball flutters up. Drayton Florence picks it off, laurels it back. They take it in for a touchdown. That was literally my first game in the NFL. Perfs pick six. I was like, Brady, I was just trying to make you feel better because I know you threw one in that game too.
- [41:46]
Matt Castle
You threw a pick six your first game.
- [41:48]
Bobby Bones
First game, it was great. You know, you got to deal with a little adversity. I had a great.
- [41:51]
Matt Castle
That's a lot.
- [41:52]
Bobby Bones
I know, I know. Especially as a seventh round draft pick and you're going, oh God. First time in the game and that happens. But I think it helped the fact that my arm got hit. I didn't just throw it directly to them, but we had some great battles against their teams. Especially 2006 was the year that they were 14 and two had an incredible team. And we went down there and honestly we. It was a battle. But Brady throws a pick late in the third. They intercept it in their own territory. Troy Brown comes from behind, strips the ball out. We regain the possession like it was a huge play in the game. Later on that game, we're tied 21, 21. We're backed up fourth, fourth and about one yard. We try to QB sneak, we get stuffed. But I think it was Schottenheimer ran over and called timeout right before we snapped the ball in the QB sneak. If he would have just let the play roll. They get the ball back. So instead we change the, change the play. Brady drops back, hits Rashe Caldwell down the sideline on a one on one opportunity to set up the game winning field goal. We upset them and that, like I said, they had an incredible team. I don't know what we were that year. We had a good team, but they were the favorite to win it. Following year, AFC championship, we play them again in the AFC championship. Philip Rivers got a torn acl, but it was a hell of a game in really cold weather.
- [43:10]
Matt Castle
He played on it.
- [43:11]
Bobby Bones
He played with a torn acl. The guy, I gave him nothing but credit. You know, some people said this, that Philip Rivers is one of the toughest sons of guns I've ever been around. Sons of guns I've ever been around. But I mean some really good battles throughout the years. And he was a heck of a player. And he's one of those guys that you'd always refer to as a game wrecker. When we would go in, review the film, see who their guys are, who we got to pay attention to. He was one of those guys we'd want to give presents to the tackle, we want to chip them, we want to hit him with two people because if not, he'll wreck your game.
- [43:45]
Matt Castle
Three time NFL All Pro. The 12th pick overall by the Chargers in 05. He won the AP Defensive Rookie of the Year in 05 with 10 sacks. 45 and a half career sacks, three time Pro Bowler. His nickname is Lights out. He averaged 13 sacks per year his first three years.
- [44:00]
Bobby Bones
It's pretty good.
- [44:01]
Matt Castle
That's crazy.
- [44:01]
Bobby Bones
Pretty good pace right there.
- [44:03]
Matt Castle
That's crazy. And he's the founder of an MMA league called Lights Out. Extreme Fighting. And it's all fighting. If you go to his socials now, it's all fighting. And I tell you, I wouldn't want to fight him. He still looks like.
- [44:15]
Bobby Bones
No, no, absolutely not.
- [44:17]
Matt Castle
He's a monster right now.
- [44:18]
Bobby Bones
He's a monster right now.
- [44:19]
Matt Castle
Here he is, the great Sean.
- [44:21]
Sean Merriman
Me.
- [44:24]
Matt Castle
On now with Sean Merriman. Sean, appreciate the time, man.
- [44:28]
Sean Merriman
You got it, man. Thanks for having me.
- [44:29]
Matt Castle
Hey, so let's go to this. Went to your Instagram. It's fighting like that's your life now, huh?
- [44:35]
Sean Merriman
Yeah, man. I mean, it's, it's. It's been that for a while. It's just there's, there's more things now because, you know, distribution and technology. So we've kind of expanded a lot and things are. Yeah, things are growing pretty fast here.
- [44:48]
Bobby Bones
Sean, did you ever actually get in the ring and fight professionally yourself?
- [44:54]
Sean Merriman
No, but I still spar. I mean, I still, you know, a couple days a week, I'm at Extreme Couture. I'm down in Long Beach, a body shop with Black House and Redondo. So, you know, and when I travel around, man, I know a lot of the gyms in the country, and so I'm getting there with pro fighters all the time and still sparring. Stay in shape, man. But you. It's something that you do it or you don't do it, right? Like, you can play basketball, you can play football, but you can't play fight. So I'll get in there and I'll do my thing, because I can. But then I back off because some of those guys just absolutely insane.
- [45:26]
Matt Castle
Did you train while playing at all fighting?
- [45:30]
Sean Merriman
I did. I did. In fact, matter of fact, in the mid-2000s, I started training with Randy Couture. He was. Jay Glazer at Fox Sports introduced me to Randy Couture. So I just started doing a lot of, like, hand combat drills and movements and pumbling with Randy back in the mid-2000s. And, you know, every off season, I would start training with more and more guys. Chuck Liddell, Cheetah Ortiz, this one. Tyron Woodley also was just coming on in the mid 2000s. I was training with him. And so, yeah, I was like one of the first, one of the first NFL guys that really took that up and took it serious.
- [46:03]
Bobby Bones
Do you think that that type of training translated to the field with all the different field with the hand fighting and everything else that goes on in the trenches?
- [46:10]
Sean Merriman
Oh, it's a game changer. So when I talk to a lot of players now, you know, I tell them to pick up some form of combat sport, whether it's boxing, Muay Thai, you know, Jiu jitsu is also great, but just something, man, because it's something about that sport that translates right on the field directly. Either use your hands as outside linebacker, pass rusher, getting off the line of scrimmage as a wide receiver. And let me tell you, you talk about conditioning, you can forget about it when you're tired as hell. And one of those, one of those wrestlers on top of you and you're looking up at this, at this cl and see how much time you got before you die. Yeah, it's. It's one of those feelings, man. So I, I came, I came back just, just a different player, you know, much more leaner. I was bouncing around in the fourth quarters. I didn't get tired. Very, very active. And with my hands, I mean, it just, it. My game completely changed.
- [47:01]
Matt Castle
Yeah. I was going to ask if there was a definitive time where your game did modify itself because of what you were doing specifically while training, fighting and 06.
- [47:13]
Sean Merriman
So tell you the truth, my first year in the NFL, I sucked at using my hands. I just, I got, I was just big and strong and fast, explosive off the line of scrimmage so I could run around you or run through you. That was it. You know, I was going to get you the ball. But that second year I came out, man, it's just my hand placement. I was able to use my leverage against those 330 plus offensive linemen, being able to open my hips up because a lot of the training that we did, when you're going for takedowns and stuff, it just unlocks your hips and being able to explode your hips up to get guys off of you. It was so many things that just roll right into football. And if you check it out now, you see a lot of these guys during the off season, our boxing, you know, Michael Parsons, Aaron Donald was another one who did a lot of hand combat drills and MMA stuff. So it got pretty popular after I started doing it. But it just, it's literally a game changer for football players.
- [48:11]
Bobby Bones
Well, let's go back to the start of your career. Obviously you grew up in Maryland, went to Maryland, first round draft pick for San Diego. You come in and you're the rookie of the year. Your first year, you light the league on fire and you become a name immediately. Were you ready for that type of success and did you expect that type of success that early?
- [48:29]
Sean Merriman
Yeah, yeah, in a way. I think the, the, the probably the hardest part for me early on. I was 20 years old when I got drafted initially. So at the time, I believe I was the youngest draft NFL player ever. And you know, I was a 12th pick overall. You know, it's so you, when you leave college, you go, you don't really have a break, right? Like you have like your right to working out. You're right to the combine, and before you know it, you're an ota. Before you know it, you're in training camp. So you really don't even get a chance to kind of look back and say, man, I'm in the NFL now. It's like it's ride a rolling process. It wasn't until after my first year when I was all pro, when I was Pro bowl, when I was defensive rookie of the year, I got a chance to kind of relax. I went home and I was going, you know, travel the country a little bit. And like everybody was doing this damn lights out dance. You know, I'll go down to Miami, I'm in New York and I'm looking across the street and people doing lights out dance. I said, okay, things are different now. So it really, really didn't hit me until after my first year that things were definitely different.
- [49:38]
Matt Castle
Did you feel like the combine, the Chargers would take you or did you do a specific team workout with them? Were you surprised when the Chargers drafted you?
- [49:45]
Sean Merriman
No, no. In fact, I thought that I would go anywhere from the third pick to the 12th pick. I thought I was going to at three to Cleveland. Then you had the then Redskins, now commanders, right? I think they were sitting in nine. Well, I took a visit to see them. It was the Lions who I went to go see Steve Mariucho, the 10th pick. I want to go see Dallas Cowboys with the elect. They had 11th pick and then Chargers had 12. So I knew if it was going to be three, it was going to be somewhere between nine and 12. I knew it was going to be somewhere near. And I thought I was going to Dallas because I met with Jerry Jones and Bill Parcells and they brought me up into the office. And so mind you I just turned, you know, I'm still 20 at this time on the visits. And the Dallas Cowboys brought everybody out there who they thought was going to be a first round guy who they were going to draft potentially. And they sent somebody down to grab me. The first day I started thinking like, okay, what did I do? I'm 20 years old. You start feeling like you did something wrong, right? So they brought me up into the office and I'm sitting across from Bill Parcell. Big Tony, he's right across from me. And then I got Jerry Jones is sitting on the left at a little, at a desk, right there's a little higher. I'm 20 year old, 20 year old kid. So who's not going to be intimidated by some of the biggest presence, you know, in all of football? I mean, you got two of the biggest personalities in all of football sitting across from you in this little tiny office. And I could just feel the office just getting smaller and smaller. And Bill Parcell is like, look, we don't believe you're going to be there at that 11 pick, but if you are, we're going to draft you as soon as you get here. We're going to work the hell out of you. Now that little spit in the back of the throat just dropped a little bit. And I said, you know, but yeah, that was it. And in the charges, A.J. smith told me the same thing. We don't think you're going to be here at 12, but if you are, we're drafting you. So I had a really, really good inkling that I was going to get drafted somewhere in between that 9th and 12th pick.
- [51:49]
Bobby Bones
When you came into the league, obviously 2005, you guys were 9 and 7, but I remember those teams. You guys were some dogs out there. In that 2006 year, you guys go 14, 2. Your defense, you've got Sean Phillips, you've got Jamal Williams. You guys had a front that could get after people. But talk about that season in particular, because you guys dominated throughout the season. We actually played you in that playoff game. I'm sorry, I didn't play. You know, Tom threw that ball down the field. You guys had the interception. But talk about that season in general and just maybe looking back and going, man, this team was set up for a Super Bowl.
- [52:24]
Sean Merriman
I, you know, so I said this, and I know it's going to get some clips and all that. And the. When you talk about championships, the Patriots will always be the best team of the decade. I don't think anybody can even deny that. Um, and you know, the calls were really good around that time too, in that, in that decade. But when you talk about talent and how much we were stacked, if you really can't really put it into words, man, we had, we had so many people, so many dogs. I mean, the linebacker and you said two of the names that people don't talk about a lot. You said Sean Phillips and Jamal Williams. I mean, they don't get mentioned enough with the Chargers history. I mean, Sean Phillips is one of the most consistent guys out there. He played, you know, very consistent. And Jamal Williams, because he played that dirty three technique, no, you know, no tackle situation in a three four that gets no shine. But make guys like myself look pretty out there all day because I can go out there and do one on ones and then they can't step up in the park and to deliver a ball down the field because he got so much pressure, you know, inside. And so, you know, he doesn't get talked about enough, man. But you can go, you can go on that team and just, just look everywhere. We were just so loaded, you know, that we should have won one, right? I would say between that 2006 and 2009, 2010, we should have got at least one. But again, when you're going through the Patriots and you. And so I gotta rob you, you don't just go to the Patriots. You go through Ben Roethlisberger first.
- [53:54]
Bobby Bones
Oh, yeah.
- [53:54]
Sean Merriman
Then you go through Peyton Manning and then you see the final boss and Tom Brady. It's like, so when I'm out, people ask me, hey, why don't you have a ring? Well, let me tell you, Let me tell you what I'm bringing. Because that was a, that was a path in those, you know, those four or five years in that span to get there.
- [54:09]
Matt Castle
A guy like Ben and a guy like Tom played in the pocket. Completely different with a guy like Ben, almost impossible to take him down. I mean, did you change your game week to week, especially when you got near the quarterback, depending on what type of pocket presence they had?
- [54:26]
Sean Merriman
Oh, a hundred percent because you, you had to really watched, watch your rush lanes. And you know, some of those guys back there, I used to call them the Statue of Liberty. I love the Statue of Liberty back there. The ones just stand there and pat the ball. They, you know, it might step up a step or two, they might step back, might step lateral, but they not going anywhere, right? That's the ones I love. But then you got somebody like Ben who didn't get enough credit for just being really really good leaving the pocket and like you said, really hard to tackle. And he was so big. I mean, they had him at 260, 265. I said, nuh. Been with 270, 280. I don't care what anybody say he was, he was up there closer to 280 than anything else. And you know, I remember times that I've hit him and I thought he was going down. And you look up and the crowd is cheering and I'm thinking, I'm cheering because I got a sack and he completed a 30 yard ball down the field, right? It just, it was, he was difficult to defend and play against. But those were some times, man, because, you know, you had all these quarterbacks that were really, really good. I mean, you know, I got a chance to play against Steve McNair, who was strong, who was really, really physical as well. And so just the game has, has changed. Where these guys, the Patrick Mahomes, the Jalen. The Jalen hurts. And Josh Allen and Justin Herbert, Joe Burrow. These guys not only can throw, but they can. And Lamar Jazz can equally hurt you as well. And we didn't have to, we didn't have to deal with that. We had to pick our poison during that week. But now it's just all over the place where you really have to rush these guys. Completely different than when you did when I played.
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Bobby Bones
You talked about the quarterbacks during that time. Was there an offensive O line unit they used to go up against and say man, I gotta, I gotta get, get myself up for this one.
- [61:42]
Sean Merriman
The Kansas City Chiefs. The Kansas City Chiefs during that time, I mean, talking about physical. And I know some of the guys that they, they're a little older, like Willie Rolf and Brian Waters, but they had Tony Richardson at fullback, Priest Holmes. And when Priest Holmes went out, it was Larry Johnson that came in there. Tony Gonzalez one side, but a titan that no one talked about enough was Jason Dunn who was 6 7, 280 pounds. When he grabbed you, your play, if he grabbed, the play was over, you could forget about it. And they were just a physical bunch. They were lined up at all sorts of power. Whether it was a far or near eye, it didn't matter. And they would just gash you 35 plus times, 35 plus times downhill. You know, you got to come down and Tony Richards got to kick off. Tony Richardson get under him and he may not come this time. And Brian Waters is pulling guard is coming. It was a different variation. Every single play of power and you just had, I mean we would play on Sunday and my, my body sometimes wouldn't recover until like Wednesday or Thursday. And this is when I was like 22, 23. When they start implementing Thursday Night Football, you could just forget about it, right? That, that was just, that was an afterthought because that team was so physical. But you know, I got, I played against Walter Jones, I played against Orlando Pace, you know, I played against probably one of the best that people don't talk about enough on my own team and Marcus McNeil out of Auburn and you know, if Marcus didn't have that back problem he went, he would have been a Hall of Famer. I mean this guy's 6 7, 6 8, £335 and can move like a tight end and I had to see him every single day in practice. And so I had my work cut out for me, man. But we played some offensive line that would just gas you and just physical.
- [63:28]
Matt Castle
When did you start to be double teamed and did you have to alter your game again once that started to happen consistently?
- [63:35]
Sean Merriman
Yeah, it was, I started to be double teamed towards the end of my rookie year. I didn't really, I don't think I was on a map enough yet. When I first came onto the scene, I think it was like after my three side game against Peyton my rookie year, that's when everybody's like, okay, yeah, well we know this guy is now. And then beginning of 06 from game one, all hell broke loose. It was bunch said tight ends hit me from the line of scrimmage before they go out and when they doing it now a back is coming to chipping and their fan protection. And what I started to learn was and I had this conversation with Micah when he was going into his second year, I said, bro, let me tell you, you're not a secret anymore. People know you. So I don't care what offensive lineman or which tight end or whoever's in front of you, you're not playing against them, you're playing against the coordinator. What are they going to come out and do this week to try to keep the ball as far away from you as possible and how can you still wreck it even if you're not making a play? So I would talk to him about things that I would do to just disrupt the play long enough. Where, okay, well if you guys are going to hit me in this bunch set, I'm hitting two people, you're not going to get out to that route. And so that means you got to hold on to the ball longer. And so, so I started to play these games with the coordinators and you know, I would have coordinators or offensive line coaches coming out. You know, we're playing Eagles 1 one year and I was playing against Donovan McNabb. Their offensive line coaches said, came out to me pre game and told Ron Rivera to pass me a message. He said, tell Sean that he is not going to touch Donovan today.
- [65:13]
Bobby Bones
He said that.
- [65:13]
Sean Merriman
He said, we don't care who else make a play, but Sean will not touch him. And when I tell you it was just a madhouse of formations, slide protections, chips off the edge, fan protections, all sorts of variations, guys going in motions, disrupting my pass rush before I got off the line of scrimmage, it was hell. And he was right. I didn't sniff Donovan that whole game. It was just. I mean, they had two people and sometimes three just to make sure I stayed away from him.
- [65:41]
Bobby Bones
Sean, you had to deal with a lot of injuries, specifically later in your career. How'd you deal with those, both mentally and physically?
- [65:49]
Sean Merriman
The physical part wasn't as bad. It was the mental part that was the toughest. Because when you played the game at such a high level and you're used to dominating every week and not. And going out there and literally being able to take over a game and change the trajectory of that game yourself and as difficult as a defensive player, that's a lot for a defensive player to now being able to go, just have flashes of it, right? You'll go out there and make a big play. I can still get a sack, but I might disappear for a quarter, right? And because I couldn't consistently drive off the line of scrimmage because my Achilles or knee or whatever I was dealing with at that time. And so you will go back and you're so accustomed to looking at that stat sheet after the game and saying, two sacks and six tackles and two. Two TFLs, a force fumble. You start. You get accustomed to this life and playing that way. And now looking at the film the next day on Monday, and like, man, a couple of years ago, I would have made that play. You know, if they ran a counter from the backside, I could run it down. They would never be able to run the counter on me or they would never leave a tight end, one on one backside to block me on a. On a play action. It was just things like that that was just run through my head over and over again. And so the mental aspect of being injured, not being yourself anymore, was way harder than because you knew your body. I think a lot of people, not only injury, but when you get older as a player, you're like, okay, yeah, it's going to take me a little bit longer to wake up, to warm up. It's going to take me a little bit longer. And more ice tubs, more cold tubs, more stretching, more, more therapy, you know, more massages. You know, as a player that you got to do those extra things even just to maintain. But, you know, same thing with entry. It was just like, man, I just got to get healthy enough so I can go out there and play even if I can't take over a game no more. So the physical part, I was actually okay with not being the same anymore. It was the mental part that I knew that I couldn't take over games anymore to.
- [67:47]
Matt Castle
You were the juiciest downs. 3rd and 8, 3rd and 11, 3rd and 13. When you just knew they were going to throw it and they all pin your ears back. Was that when you would get most hype?
- [67:56]
Sean Merriman
Oh, man, you love being those situations. And, you know, I was telling a jock who I played with, who was a defensive line coach with the Cleveland Browns, and he was talking about Miles Garrett. He put Miles Garrett on FaceTime before, and I was telling him, and I was fortunate because we had an offense. We knew there was going to get up two scores on people. We knew that we were going to get in third long situations. And sometimes, you know, I'll come out on first down or second down just to make sure I'm fresh for thirds. Now you got a friend, you know, I'll go out there, tap it, I'll tap my hand, tap my head off. First down, you know, they running the ball and you know, they might run a play action on second down, but you know, they getting that third five. Plus they gotta throw the ball down the field. And then you gonna see me trotting back on the field. I'm ready to go, I'm fresh. Oh, yeah. I told you it was a game. It was a mental battle for me out there. I, I played the game right and, you know, I just, just knew that those were the times that I can go out and have my biggest impact. That those times, you know, third long situations, they need, they need to stop, you know, or turnover and downs or we need to get off the field. That was my Time to Shine was.
- [69:12]
Bobby Bones
One of your favorite songs when you were in San Diego. San Diego Super Ch. I remember that song. And every time I left, my family would be singing it. Do you remember that song? And do you still sing that jingle? They had this song that played every time they scored. San Diego Supercharger Sandy. Yeah.
- [69:34]
Sean Merriman
Oh, dude, it's the best, man. Because they. You see the whole, the whole stadium, everybody, all the fans partying to it, just having a great time, and you hate it to hear it because you know what happened. So that's hilarious. Your family was singing it, though.
- [69:51]
Bobby Bones
Oh, all the kids, everybody. I'm like, guys, we just got stomped. Like, let's, let's move on.
- [69:55]
Matt Castle
What's up? What's up with your relationship now with the Chargers?
- [69:59]
Sean Merriman
I still, still do a lot with the team. You know, every year we shoot a big. Since they've been in, SoFi shoot a big promo pregame before the team comes out. Last year was just me, kind of a hypo video, which. Which is really dope. This year it's me, LT and Antonio Gates. So this year, they killed it. I. I think the Chargers social media and digital team are the best in the NFL. I mean, they, they really, really knock it out the park. And then, so me now and everything I got going, you know, I'm really big in the creativity and the digital platforms and, you know, driving traffic to certain content. They just do a good job, man. And yeah, so I'm at every home game and I still, still do a lot and, and work with the team and support the team.
- [70:42]
Bobby Bones
What are your thoughts on Jim Harbaugh coming in? Obviously, last year, Los Angeles Chargers, he's getting named the head coach. But talk about the culture shift that this organization's gone through under his leadership.
- [70:53]
Sean Merriman
You know, without punching somebody else in the gut, is night and day. I mean, it's. And don't get me wrong, I really like Brandon Staley personally. When Brandon Stanley got hired, you know, I was one of the first people he called. He called me at night, and we talked on the phone for a good 20, 30 minutes. Great conversation, really motivated. You hear the enthusiasm in his voice. Like he had all the good, all the good intentions of turning the organization around. I think he could have if he had a little bit more experience. But I think that's what bit him, is that he, you know, being a hit, you know, being a really good coordinator, we're seeing it across the NFL. It is tough to jump in that, that head coaching job because you become a manager of everybody. It's not you calling plays anymore. You're just looking at the offense side of the ball. You don't have to worry about down the distance or, you know, when to call a timeout, punt situation. Special teams, you don't have to worry about any of that. The only thing you got to worry about your guys getting on and off the field on the offensive defense side of the ball. And I just felt that, you know what Brandon Staley, like, I just. The experience got him at the end because it was. Some of the moments got too big for him, and he wasn't ready for those big moments in the game. Now, when Jim Harbaugh came in, I knew it. I mean, I knew right away that my first visit to the facility, I was there. And it was an energy that everybody walked around with that was completely different than I saw in the previous years. And it's like people walking around with a purpose. They had confidence. They knew they would like. Everybody knew what to do. It was just. I was talking to one of the coordinators that came in with Jim, and they just were talking like, man, they will follow this dude to the moon. It's like he eats, breathe, and sleeps football. And. And it's not like a show like, this is who he is. And the vibe, just the energy of everything shifted in that building. This first day, walking in there where the guys who wanted to buy in, bought in, and the guys who wasn't going to buy in, they were out, period. And that's what you have to have. You have to have that umbrella effect to trickle down from the top down and down at the bottom. And also Joe Ortiz, you know, the gm, you know, he's. He's a football guy. And again, Tom Tesco really like Tom personally a lot. We used to spend. Talk a lot and spend time conversating. I like him a lot, but he was more of a numbers and datas guy. Right. And there's nothing wrong with that, but that can reflect in your team. Right. And how you play football, because, you know, this game is so passionate and physical. You can't. It ain't about decimals and numbers all the time. Just not. You got to go out and hit people in the mouth. And if you don't have that attitude to trickle down from the top down to the bottom, it's going to affect everybody. And I believe that's what happened with Tom Gillespie. That's what happened to Brandon Staley. It was kind of a domino effect of numbers and. And opportunity and these percentages. It was too much thinking. And Joe Ortiz, if you talk to Joe Ortiz, you know, I talked to him before the game. Sometimes it feels like you're talking to a player like you're talking to a player that's about to suit up right now and go out and play football. That's what you get when you're talking to Joe Ortiz. And that's what you get out of Jim Hallbach. That's what you get out of their team. Like, there's a level of excitement around this team that is contagious. You know, guys love wanting, love playing football. Again, I didn't see that the years before Jim Hallmark got there. It was like a bunch of guys that were just out there. They didn't know what they were doing, they wasn't passionate about what they doing. They didn't want to show up to work and put all their audit. They didn't buy in. And that team under Jim Hallbach has bought in. And that's the difference I've seen over the last several years.
- [74:48]
Matt Castle
Final question for you. And we were talking about this before you came on, but. And that's why we started on fighting was lights out extreme fighting. So, you know, I was again looking at your Instagram and looking at the five videos and reading about the organization a bit. So what, like, what is it that you do? Because this is your event, this is your organization. So what, what is your role in this?
- [75:07]
Bobby Bones
Everything.
- [75:09]
Sean Merriman
You know, I got my, I got my hand everything a little bit, from the matchmaking onto the digital to the distribution. We're on my, my network, Lights Out Sports tv, which is a free ad supported all sports streaming service that is completely free available on every smart TV, iOS and Android. Got a ton of free live sports there. But you know, we got the next up and coming superstars in this MMA business. And you know, my first UFC fight was in 2005. It was Chuck Liddell. Randy Randy Couture. And every year since 2005, I've been to at least four events. So, you know, count 20 years times. That's how many of UFC fights I've been to in my lifetime at least. And we want to develop these next up and coming guys. We not we just had a huge fight down the Long Beach. Lights out extreme fighting 27 this past Saturday. And Tyrell Fortune was our main event. Heavyweight number one pound pound heavyweight in the country right now. He'll probably end up in the ufc. If he's not there in the next few weeks, he'll fight with us one more time and then get there. So he may be signing the UFC. We got one or two more guys from this next card. November 1st, it'll be in Long Beach, California. Again, they'll also be signing the UFC. And we just launched our new AI virtual advertisement. So the sponsors now are changing on a mat between fights which has never been done in combat sports. And now we're opening up to other combat sports organizations and other. Other, you know, other professional league soccer and baseball and everything else, but we brought that to market. And so I, I love. Honestly, you know, and it's. Don't get me wrong, it is hectic as hell, right? It is hectic. I mean, we lost fights during. On Monday. The fight is on Saturday. We lost a fight, got, you know, one missed weight. The other one had an accidental elbow in practice and he had to pull out. So you got to find new two and two new fighters, right? So now we gather in the team and we're switching the card around and switching the order of the fights for tv because we're on, you know, some other networks as well, simulcast. But I wouldn't want to do anything else. I got. I got fortunate, man, because it is tough. I told, like, anyone that I talk to, when you get done, it is tough trying to figure out that next thing. It is tough because we're so regimented. We're so used to doing something for so long. You now you're trying to figure out, okay, who am I? What am I about now? Now you don't have this, this NFL and this football snap over you. I got fortunate because I was doing this for a long time. You know, I got into TV when I got done, and I understood production and advertisement and marketing and entertainment. And so that's, you know, we feel that we're the next, you know, big company in the world when it comes to combat sports. And with this technology we're introducing, we're going to be one of the most groundbreaking organizations in the world here shortly.
- [78:01]
Matt Castle
Lights Out Extreme fighting, which is lightsoutsportstv.com and if you go there, you can find all the different places that the network is. So, yeah, congrats on that. That's super cool. It sounds like you found your second calling.
- [78:13]
Sean Merriman
Yeah. Promoting fights from one crazy. From one crazy sport to the next, man. But it's been awesome. It's been awesome.
- [78:19]
Matt Castle
Sean, we appreciate the time. Thank you so much. Good luck with the fights and yeah, we just really appreciate the time you spent with us here talking about your career.
- [78:27]
Sean Merriman
You got it, man. Thanks for having me. Appreciate it.
- [78:29]
Bobby Bones
Thanks, Sean.
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- [83:44]
Matt Castle
Hey, looking at this week's games, I gotta say, bad week for games. Just generally speaking, not.
- [83:49]
Bobby Bones
Not a great week of games. Yeah, I was looking through some of them as well and I was like, nothing too sexy on there this weekend. You really want to prop your feet up and just say, I'm going to watch this one through and through.
- [84:00]
Matt Castle
Got a couple like Eagles at Bucks.
- [84:03]
Sean Merriman
Eagles.
- [84:04]
Bobby Bones
Bucks should be a good one.
- [84:05]
Matt Castle
That's the game, right?
- [84:06]
Bobby Bones
100%. How about Baker Mayfield? Oh yeah.
- [84:09]
Matt Castle
I mean The Bucks cannot sustain him having to make game winning drives every game.
- [84:13]
Bobby Bones
Don't let him have 90 seconds on the clock because that dude is going to go down and he's going to win. I love that kid, you know, what a kid, he's a man. Let's be honest, you know, he reminds me of a little bit just like how he plays the game and just the, the effect that he has is Brett Favre. And the reason I say it, he's tough as nails. He plays with this childlike enthusiasm and he just seems like he's enjoying himself out there. And I just remember I always was drawn to that about Brett Favre. And when I watch him, I see those different components of his game that I'm like, he's got some to him.
- [84:50]
Matt Castle
The other one is Colts at Rams. Now the Rams did lose, but the Rams are a good football team and we're really going to see, I mean the Colts until what the second quarter, hadn't punted all year.
- [85:02]
Bobby Bones
It's unbelievable.
- [85:03]
Matt Castle
It's unbelievable.
- [85:04]
Bobby Bones
Danny Dimes, baby.
- [85:05]
Matt Castle
Yeah. So the Colts are going to Los Angeles. I think those are the premier games.
- [85:10]
Bobby Bones
I think that would be a huge game for the Colts because like you said, the Rams, they go on the road in Philly, they're up 26 to 7 early in the third quarter and then Philly catches fire, Hertz goes out, figures out A.J. brown's out there and just throw him the rock. They all of a sudden take the lead. But the Rams go back down, put themselves, they're about to kick a game winning field goal. Jordan Davis is a dude, he was clocked. You know, he's clocked at running that.
- [85:39]
Matt Castle
I saw the 18 miles an hour.
- [85:41]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, can you imagine?
- [85:43]
Matt Castle
Big dude, 18 miles an hour, 330 pounds. Moving Thursday night, Seahawks at Cardinals. It'll be on, so I'll watch it. Just the other games in general. Vikings at Steelers, mild interest. Panthers. The Patriots again.
- [86:00]
Bobby Bones
Patriots had what, five turnovers in that game?
- [86:02]
Matt Castle
Oh my God, those two end zone fumbles. Unbelievable. With your experience with Mike Vrabel, what do you think his reaction was after the game?
- [86:14]
Bobby Bones
Oh, he went in there and said we, we lost this game. We lost this game because we turned over the ball five times. If we don't take care of the football, we will put ourself in a position where we won't win any game. And I thought Drake may played pretty well, but he made some decisions that obviously he wants back. At the end of the day, there's no way when you turn over the ball five times, and he's going to be harping on their ass all week long. And he'll be relentless about it because he knows if they don't fix that, there's no chance.
- [86:41]
Matt Castle
Commanders at Falcons. Mario to play pretty good, dude.
- [86:44]
Bobby Bones
My boy Marcus. Did I not tell you he's a baller? Yeah, and he went out and played like one.
- [86:50]
Matt Castle
Awesome.
- [86:51]
Bobby Bones
And I was so excited for him. I texted him after the game just to let him know that I was proud of him and just really excited for the success. And he. He always. You know what the thing about him, he's awesome because, you know, he's getting bombarded with all this stuff. He text me back, hope the family's well. That's the type of guy he is. So I hope nothing but success is for him.
- [87:09]
Matt Castle
Saints and Bills, that should be a blowout. But we thought the same thing about the freaking Dolphins last week with the Bills.
- [87:16]
Bobby Bones
We did. I mean, but then again, that was a division rivalry that they're very familiar with each other. They play against each other twice a year. And so I always. I feel like in those type of games, with the familiarity you have with the different schemes and systems, that there's a confidence level that goes in to you playing in those type of games.
- [87:35]
Matt Castle
Browns at Lions. How about those gritty Browns?
- [87:38]
Bobby Bones
Dude, their defense is savage.
- [87:39]
Matt Castle
Shorts, their frigging uniforms last week. Yeah, they look the dark brown.
- [87:44]
Bobby Bones
Oh, yeah, it's awesome. They're awesome.
- [87:47]
Matt Castle
Chargers at Giants. That'll be fun just to see what Jackson Dart can do. See if he loses his jewels.
- [87:52]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, seriously.
- [87:54]
Matt Castle
First out, Titans at Texans.
- [87:56]
Bobby Bones
That should be an interesting matchup. Both of the teams are struggling.
- [88:01]
Matt Castle
Yeah.
- [88:01]
Bobby Bones
I mean, Titans go in there and take down Houston. Oh, boy.
- [88:05]
Matt Castle
One of them has to go back to college. Relegated. The loser gets delegated.
- [88:11]
Sean Merriman
Relegated. Yeah.
- [88:12]
Bobby Bones
We still have eligibility.
- [88:13]
Matt Castle
Jags and 49ers. 49ers just keep on.
- [88:17]
Bobby Bones
They've been winning, like, really gritty games. What was it, 16, 14 or something this last week? Mac Jones.
- [88:24]
Matt Castle
Mac Jones puts on a knee brace.
- [88:25]
Bobby Bones
I know. They said he hurt his knee again.
- [88:27]
Matt Castle
They said. Still one Packers. The Cowboys. Everybody's always going to care about the Cowboys.
- [88:31]
Bobby Bones
They are. And obviously the Parsons effect. If they're going to either care about the Cowboys because they like the Cowboys, or they absolutely hate the Cowboys and can't wait to see if Green Bay can stomp stomp on them.
- [88:45]
Matt Castle
Jets of Dolphins and Bengals. The Broncos on Monday night. That's it. Thank you, everybody. Thanks, John Merriman for dropping by and spending about a half hour with us.
- [88:53]
Bobby Bones
Ready to get in the cage with you now.
- [88:54]
Matt Castle
I'm gonna pass on that. Yeah, I'm gonna pass. Keep pounding. I always say that. You know what I mean? Got my jersey on. That's Matt Castle. That's Kickoff Kevin. That's Brandon Ray. I'm Bobby Bones. We've had lots to say. We'll see you guys next week. Goodbye, everybody. Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is a production of the NFL and iHeart Podcast. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Matt Castle
No.
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Matt Castle
Yes, that.
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Bobby Bones
No.
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Sean Merriman
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Bobby Bones
Insurance financial services.
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Matt Castle
Insurance Financial services.
- [91:09]
Sean Merriman
Now when I say nationwide, you say is both Nationwide.
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Bobby Bones
Nationwide is both for your insurance and financial needs.
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Matt Castle
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