Lots to Say: QB Counseling, Schedule Release, and International Interest?

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Bobby Bones Show – “Lots to Say: QB Counseling, Schedule Release, and International Interest?”

Air Date: May 13, 2026
Host: Bobby Bones | Co-Host: Matt Cassel
Special Guests/Recurring Contributors: Kevin
Theme: A lively, diverse episode blending expert football talk with personal anecdotes, parenting insights, and extreme sports banter.

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Episode Overview

This episode of Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Cassel dives into NFL quarterback counseling, answers youth sports dilemmas, unpacks NFL schedule news—including the league's expanding international footprint—and closes with fun, offbeat segments on extreme sports and behind-the-scenes glimpses of their personal lives.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Quarterback Counseling: Handling Pressure in the NFL

[01:46–06:25]

• Dealing with Unwanted Fan Reactions (01:51)
  • Matt advises rookie QBs to block out fan noise after a hostile draft reception:

    “You didn’t get to where you are today…by taking everyone’s opinion as gold. You have an opportunity to prove it.” (Matt, 01:58)

    • Tells Ken O’Brien’s story: booed when drafted before Dan Marino, but became a Pro Bowl QB.
• Bobby's Sports/Art Principle (02:56):

  “In sports and art, everybody’s fickle. Just produce, that’s it. People don’t even remember what they didn’t like.”

• Belichick Wisdom (03:06):
  • Matt repeats Coach Belichick’s mantra:

    “You do your job, you go out there, perform. It takes care of everything…If you win, nobody’s gonna be saying this, that, or the other.”

• Parenting in Youth Sports (03:38):
  • How to address kids’ disappointment after getting benched: prioritize effort, attitude, and handling failure.

    “Sports is a game of failure... Failing sometimes is a huge strength for a young kid to learn how to deal with.” (Matt, 03:44)

• Handling Tough Post-Game Media (04:29):
  • Take responsibility, don’t blame teammates.

    “The more that you put on yourself and don’t throw people under the bus, the more your teammates respect you.” (Matt, 04:34)

• Dealing With Overzealous Parents at Youth Games (05:24):
  • Matt’s approach is to intervene only if it gets offensive; letting most obnoxious behavior pass to avoid escalation and scaring kids.

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2. NFL Playbook Challenge – “Bobby vs. the Playbook”

[06:27–09:39]

• Matt quizzes Bobby on common football concepts and defensive terms:

  • Mesh concept: Bobby nails it.
  • Odd floater: Bobby jokes (“that’s if I’ve had pizza…”), ultimately off-base, but Matt gives partial “creative” credit.
  • Nickel vs. Dime defense: Bobby’s answer accepted.
  • Tampa 2: Both agree it’s Cover 2, Matt adds the detail of the middle linebacker’s responsibilities.
  • Stunts (ET, TT, DT): Bobby knows the idea but falters on terminology.

  “Overall, dude, you crushed the concepts and the terms here.” (Matt, 09:24)

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3. NFL Schedule Release – What Players Look For

[09:48–14:16]

• Matt recounts the anticipation for opening games:

  “Every time the schedule came out, it was like, what’s our opening game? You get fired up—football’s right around the corner.” (Matt, 09:56)

• Discussion of the 2026 season opener: Seahawks will play (Super Bowl champs), likely versus Patriots.
• The NFL’s first regular season game in Australia: Rams vs. 49ers.
  • Group talks logistics, brutal flights, time changes, and how international games have exploded far beyond the old London-only approach.

  “It’s crazy, the expansion... Rio, Mexico, Germany...it’s drastically different from when we played.” (Matt, 13:04)

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4. Anecdotes & International NFL Insights

[13:26–14:39]

• Bobby discusses NFL chasing global popularity, compared to basketball and baseball.
• The international games are as much about fan travel and experience as about the sport itself:

  “That’s how I could get her to go—to Paris...do Paris things and then I want to go to the game.” (Bobby, 14:03)

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5. Trivia Games & Social Media Stars: Most Followed NFL Players

[16:36–23:30]

• Kevin quizzes Bobby and Matt: name the most-followed current NFL players on Instagram.
• Memorable moments:
  • “OBJ” (Odell Beckham Jr.) revealed as #1, with more than double Kelsey’s followers—despite not being on a team the previous year.
  • Discussion about which players/positions trend on social media (Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, McCaffrey, Tyreek Hill, Juju Smith-Schuster, Russell Wilson).

  “The fact that we can’t get one is crazy. The most followed NFL player!” (Bobby, 20:02)

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6. Lighthearted Segments: “What’s Harder?” and Extreme Sports

[23:38–26:29]

• Bobby vs. Matt on life’s toughest challenges, e.g., surviving Bear Grylls or a newborn:
  • Bobby: “Bear Grylls. Because my wife rocks the newborn.” (23:54)
• Live TV vs. radio:

  “Oh, TV. I could do radio...seven hours, I’d be fine. World’s safe.” (Bobby, 24:13)

• Stories about smart investing and spending (Jeremiah Love/NIL), Jay Leno only spending tour income, and resetting team culture with a new head coach.

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7. (Second Half) Personal Conversations, Movies, and Extreme Sports

[27:09–62:55]

A) Movie Banter & Personal Connections

• Lighthearted talk on “The Devil Wears Prada,” Anne Hathaway, and discovering Bobby’s wife is friends with the real-life inspiration for Hathaway’s character.

  “Anne Hathaway’s character is my wife’s friend.” (Bobby, 28:34)

• Bobby tells his wife’s impressive professional background, multiple master’s degrees, and their experience with public life and stalkers.

B) Parenting & Milestones

• Matt shares daughter’s 16th birthday, “Mother’s Day Baseball Tournament,” etc.

  “16 is a big year. She’s gonna be a junior next year...it just gets closer and closer.” (Matt, 43:21)

C) Extreme Sports stories

• Cheese rolling in England:

  “They’re just tumbling, bumbling... people break their legs, collarbones...” (Bobby, 50:41)

• Skydiving: Bobby shares an epic, detailed story of facing his fear, going solo, losing the video due to burglary, and existential terror.
• Hot air balloon ride: Both agree—more terrifying than skydiving, entirely at mercy of the elements.

D) Regional banter: California geography, grilling/barbecuing, SoCal vs. NorCal, LA mayors, and more.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “You do your job, you go out there, perform. It takes care of everything.” — Matt [03:06]
• “Sports is a game of failure...failing sometimes is a huge strength for a young kid.” — Matt [03:44]
• “The minute you start pointing fingers...you lose the locker room.” — Matt [04:34]
• “People don’t even remember what they didn’t like.” — Bobby [02:56]
• “OBJ has more than double Travis Kelsey’s followers.” — Kevin [22:20]
• “Bear Grylls is harder—I got help with the newborn!” — Bobby [23:54]
• “If you hold the sides, you may not let go... so they go, one, two, jump.” — Bobby (on skydiving) [55:42]
• “They all have the anecdote for why we’re losing and what we need to do differently…” — Matt [03:06]
• “Cheese rolling: you catch the cheese, you’re the winner for the year... broken bones and everything.” — Bobby [50:55]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Time | |-----------------------------|----------------| | Quarterback Counseling | 01:46–06:25 | | Playbook Concepts/Quiz | 06:27–09:39 | | NFL Schedule Release | 09:48–14:16 | | International NFL/Expansion | 13:26–14:39 | | Social Media Stars Quiz | 16:36–23:30 | | “What’s Harder?” Segment | 23:38–26:29 | | Devil Wears Prada/Personal | 27:09–33:12 | | Parenting & Milestones | 43:18–44:56 | | Extreme Sports | 49:41–59:30 | | Skydiving Story | 53:12–58:48 |

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Tone & Style

Lively, fast-paced, and humorous, blending real NFL analysis with banter, parental wisdom, and “locker room” gags. Self-deprecating and friendly, with both hosts sharing personal stories and giving listeners an insider’s perspective on sporting life and celebrity quirks.

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Summary for New Listeners

This episode is a quintessential example of The Bobby Bones Show: football wisdom delivered with wit, personal stories that pull back the curtain on public personas, and genuine, relatable advice for parents and fans alike. The football talk is accessible for casual listeners, while the detours into extreme sports, movie banter, and personal anecdotes keep it energetic and warm. Expect expert insights, laughs, and a few surprise reveals about the hosts’ lives both on and off the field.

Transcript

[Bobby Bones]

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[Intro/Outro Singer]

We got lots to say we got lots to say we're glad you're here and we hope you stay. Cause we got lots to say yeah, we got lots of to say now here's Bobby and Matt.

[Kevin]

Hey, everybody.

[Bobby Bones]

Welcome to the show. So the second half of the show we've already recorded, we thought it was going to be the beginning of the show where we talk about extreme sports and cheese rolling down hills and skydiving. And as we're finishing it, we were like, we'll put this to the back. So just know that's the second half of the show. Probably better than what we're about to do now, but Matt Castle, good to see you, buddy.

[Matt Castle]

Great to see you as well as always.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, let's do quarterback counseling. Are you ready? You're going to be.

[Matt Castle]

Quarterback counseling coming to you. Okay, here we go.

[Bobby Bones]

A rookie quarterback gets drafted to a team where the fans hate the pick. What do you tell that quarterback?

[Matt Castle]

What do you tell that quarterback? Well, at the end of the day, fans are going to have opinions if they've played in college football, which that's how you normally get to the NFL. You've probably had your adversities, your ups and downs. It's all about blocking out the noise. You didn't get to where you are today and get drafted that high. Knowing that you got to take everybody's opinion as the gold standard so you have an opportunity to prove it. I mean, one of my mentors, Ken o' Brien from UC Davis was drafted before Dan Marino in that legendary draft class back in, what was it, 82 and the jets fans hated him. But he went on to be a Pro bowl quarterback. He still is all time leader in, I think, touchdowns, yards, all that. He was an outstanding pro and went toe to toe with Dan Marino in the same division, all that stuff. They hated the draft pick, but at the end of the day, it's still about going out there and playing and playing well. And then the fans, you'll change that perception really quickly. So it doesn't matter what the fans think. At the end of the day, you still have a job to do.

[Bobby Bones]

I would also say in sports and in art, everybody's fickle. Just produce, that's it. People don't even remember what they didn't like.

[Matt Castle]

That's 100%. Coach Belichick always used to tell us, he says, look, you want to know what's best for you, your family, your kids, just do your job. You do your job, you go out there, perform. It takes care of everything. If we win, then nobody's going to be saying this, that or the other, or you'll have more people on your side versus we go out there and lose a bunch of games. Everybody's going to be talking. They all have the anecdote to why, why we're losing and what we need to do differently and who we need to bring in. But if you win, it takes care of everything.

[Bobby Bones]

Question number two. Your kid is mad because they got benched in a youth sports game. What do you say in the car ride home?

[Matt Castle]

That's always a tough one, because as a parent, you want to protect your kids from those type of feelings. At the same time, I just tell them, look, sports is a game of failure. You're going to have good days, you're going to have bad days. All I care about is the effort that you, you put out there and how you control your own emotions. Meaning, are you one of those kids that after a bad play in the field or something, you're walking off the field and your head's hanging down? No. You can control your attitude, you can control your effort. And if you do that consistently, then more good things are going to happen and you're going to be better days. But you've got to be able to deal with some of the adversities and at the same time, failing sometimes is a huge strength for a young kid to learn how to deal with it in, in their own way.

[Bobby Bones]

A starting quarterback, there's three picks and still has to go out and face the media. What's the veteran move you take?

[Matt Castle]

I've been there a lot. Yeah, that one's always one where you just have to put on your big boy pants and go out there and take responsibility. And there's been plenty of times where you'd love to sit there and say, hey, well, the guy was supposed to have a 16 yard comeback. He cut it short by three yards. That threw the timing off, that gave the cornerback and time to undercut the route. No, you can't say that. You say, look, I got to do a better job. I've got to be able to get the ball out on time. I'm a big firm believer as a quarterback. The more that you put on yourself and don't throw people under a bus, the more your teammates respect you. And that's what it's about is the camaraderie in the locker room. The minute you start pointing fingers and saying it's because of him, him and him, and it's not my fault, then you lose the locker room. And as a leader, as a quarterback, you. That's part of your responsibility.

[Bobby Bones]

Final question. A dad at a youth game is yelling too much from the sideline? Do you say something or do you let it go?

[Matt Castle]

I had a situation like that come up a few weeks ago when my daughter, she's in second grade, all girl flag football team, is playing the first grade boys. And the opposing coach was out of his mind through throwing his hat down, threw his glasses, broke his glasses, did it again, yelling at his kids. And there was every fiber of me wanted to go up and just lay into this dude and tell him, you need to calm down. But I felt like that would scare my girls, so I let it go. But you could hear the chirping from some of the parents on the side, like, you need to calm down this, that and the other. So I let it go. If, if they're saying offensive things to my kid, other kids, then I will step in and say something. But if, on the other hand, if. If it's just this guy being obnoxious, everybody recognizes it. And usually I'll let it go because it's not worth the conflict.

[Bobby Bones]

All right, that's my first segment. What do you have over there?

[Matt Castle]

All right, I've got a segment called Bobby versus the Playbook or Concept. So your knowledge generally of verbiage words in the NFL, that's going to be terrible. All right, go ahead. Okay, okay, here we go. What is a mesh concept?

[Bobby Bones]

It's two Crosses. I mean, yes.

[Matt Castle]

Money.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. It's like if I'm running meshes, I'm sending two receivers, probably the slot and maybe the X across.

[Matt Castle]

He's on it. Nailed it. Ding, ding, ding. What about an odd floater defensive terminal?

[Bobby Bones]

That's if I've had pizza. And after I use the I take a look back after I'm done in the bathroom. Sometimes I'll have an odd floater. I'm going to assume an odd floater means in someone who is not in a cover. Cover two, cover three, cover whatever it is. And he's literally playing a spy type. This could be wrong. A spy type defensive back.

[Matt Castle]

It was. That is not it. But I do like where your head was at. An odd floater actually means one of the down defensive linemen stand up at the linebacker position, walk around.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, so it is kind of a like an I got like a spy ish type person.

[Matt Castle]

It's somewhat of a spyish.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't get credit for that one.

[Matt Castle]

Okay, can you tell me the difference between nickel and D defense?

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, yeah. It's just a linebacker. You're going to put a linebacker into more defensive backs are playing dime nickel. You're going to have like a hybrid linebacker, secondary type guy.

[Matt Castle]

I will accept that answer. Yes, 100%. A nickel is when they substitute one DBN for a linebacker. Dime means there's two DBs in substituted for the linebacker positions.

[Bobby Bones]

I may not have said that right. You guys feel I got that one right?

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Matt Castle]

I feel. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

All right. All right. How many more you got?

[Matt Castle]

Do you know what to Tampa is?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, Tampa too, is what we call it.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, Tampa too.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. I mean, mostly just from Madden. And if I'm calling Tampa too, and I know it's a zone, I mean, like, I know what are the.

[Matt Castle]

What are the safeties just. Is it.

[Bobby Bones]

We're splitting into. We're doing cover two.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, we're. We're doing cover two or they are splitting into two. Yeah, I'll take that.

[Bobby Bones]

What do you think?

[Matt Castle]

No, that's. That's. It is a zone concept. Yeah, it is. Two high safeties with the mic being responsible for the vertical down the middle of the field. I wouldn't have got them.

[Bobby Bones]

I wouldn't have got the middle linebacker responsible for the. For the go. But I. I've just called so many Tampa twos when. If I'm leading in Madden in third or fourth quarter and I'm just trying to keep from. If I'm up by more than one possession, I'm Running like Tampa, too.

[Matt Castle]

This is really in the weeds. It refers to the defensive side of the ball in the front. And it's a stunt. Do you know what a DT stunt is? Or a TT stunt is? ET stunt or TT stunt.

[Bobby Bones]

So no DT stunt.

[Matt Castle]

No DT stunt.

[Bobby Bones]

So ET I would assume the T. Does T mean tackle? Yes, because I know what a stunt is on the defensive line if they're crossing. But I don't know what the ET and the tt. So maybe it would be the.

[Matt Castle]

Well, I guess you could say DT being defensive tackle, end and then the tackle. Those two are stunting. TT2 defensive tackles are stunning. So, yes, I would say, overall, dude, you crushed the concepts and the terms here.

[Bobby Bones]

I can't give myself credit on that one. I know what a stunt is. I didn't know E or T. I

[Matt Castle]

still give you credit for the odd flutter because the joke was all time. I thought you nailed it.

[Bobby Bones]

All right.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, nailed it.

[Bobby Bones]

We'll take that. Whenever you guys were playing in, the schedule was going to come out and it's like, hey, schedule announce. Did that ma. Like, what did you look for?

[Matt Castle]

Honestly, for me, every time the schedule came out, it was like, what's our opening game? Because it was exciting and it kind of really started to focus in on what your schedule is going to look like. So. But the first game of the year, it's always gives you that kind of. You get fired up, like, okay, football's right around the corner and this is our first opponent. So you, because you know your opponents throughout the off season, like, you know who. Who's going to be on your schedule. You just don't know what your schedule is going to look like. But is it going to be at home against the San Diego Chargers in Arrowhead? I mean, that pretty much fires you up because we had one of those where it was, I think it was the opening game, like a Monday night football game. San Diego Chiefs at Arrowh. And you know, it was going to be a divisional game. It's going to be rock. And so you look forward to just that first game, I'd say. And then you start to filter through that schedule.

[Bobby Bones]

By the time people hear this, they may have already announced the schedule because this comes out on Wednesdays. They announced on Thursday. Right. That's the full schedule release.

[Matt Castle]

Full schedule release.

[Bobby Bones]

So it'll be released Thursday night and the regular season will start again on a Wednesday. Game 1, the Seahawks will play. They won the Super Bowl. It says an unnamed opponent. Any guess, like, it's probably not going to Be the Patriots again, is it?

[Matt Castle]

Very.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, they've done that before.

[Matt Castle]

They have. And that would be a huge draw for.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, because. I mean, mostly because. Frable.

[Kevin]

You want to hear their home opponents for this year?

[Bobby Bones]

Seattle. Yeah.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

So they play the Patriots, Bears, Chargers, Chiefs, Giants, Cowboys, Niners, Rams and Cardinals.

[Bobby Bones]

So it's going to be one of those teams. Yeah, because they've already.

[Kevin]

Because they've already announced who they're playing away and home.

[Matt Castle]

It's probably the Patriots. Because the rams play the 49ers on Thursday.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, it's probably the Patriots. And we could be wrong. The season is starting midweek to accommodate the first regular season game in Australia. The Rams will play the 49ers.

[Matt Castle]

Dude, I can't believe they're going to Australia to play this first game. That's insane.

[Bobby Bones]

That's so far.

[Matt Castle]

That's like a 14 hour flight, isn't it?

[Bobby Bones]

It's brutal. I've done it. It's brutal. It's that in Japan are the worst flights I've ever been on. Because they're so long.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

To. To do something physical right after. Because I mean, you're not getting off the plane and playing. But even two days.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah. And what's the time change there?

[Bobby Bones]

Extreme. Like it's extreme, right?

[Kevin]

Yeah. 14 hours.

[Matt Castle]

14 hours. It's brilliant. I wonder what. When they're going to leave to go to that game.

[Bobby Bones]

They left yesterday.

[Kevin]

It's 17 hours ahead of California, which. Where the Niners are from, obviously.

[Bobby Bones]

Wow.

[Kevin]

The whole day.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. So they're both from California.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, they are both.

[Bobby Bones]

You said from the Niners.

[Matt Castle]

The Rams are also from California. They're the Los Angeles Rams.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, I thought it was St. Louis and those. They're California teams going to Australia because it is a little shorter. Because that's the way you get there. You don't go east coast to Australia.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, it'd have to be west coast.

[Bobby Bones]

You go west coast.

[Matt Castle]

Australia, west coast teams.

[Bobby Bones]

I'd say the NFL will play nine international games.

[Matt Castle]

That's crazy. Four continents, seven countries.

[Bobby Bones]

Why do you say that's crazy?

[Matt Castle]

It's just crazy, the expansion. Because we used to do like the London trip. That was always something that was very popular. And then they started just expanding like to Rio and to Mexico and Germany. And now you're just. Where it's at now from an international platform and stage is drastically different from when we played.

[Bobby Bones]

Of our three sports, I'm talking about America. That's the one that doesn't really translate in other countries. So they're doing a great job at trying, right? Because baseball ob massive all over basketball worldwide, for sure. That's why all the best basketball players aren't even American anymore, right? But, yeah, football, man, they're hitting it hard. Would you. I don't know. Like, I think I could use that as a, a reason to get my wife to go. Like, if I was like, hey, you want to go to Rio or do you want to go to Paris?

[Matt Castle]

Like, go to an actual game.

[Bobby Bones]

And then we go and we get there and I'm like, oh, yeah, there's an NFL game.

[Matt Castle]

That would be a fun fan experience.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, I think that's how I could get her to go to an to that is go like, hey, it's in Paris. We'll go and do Paris things for a day and a half. Because we weren't gonna go to Paris, but we'll go to Paris and then I want to go to the game. Yeah.

[Matt Castle]

Or she'd be like, I want to do Paris for five days and then I'll go to the game.

[Bobby Bones]

You haven't been to Paris?

[Matt Castle]

No, it's awesome. That's what my wife said. She's been, she's been all over Europe.

[Bobby Bones]

I have not, I'm sure, every single time.

[Matt Castle]

I'm not a world traveler.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, you were so dedicated to your football. Yeah.

[Matt Castle]

So dedicated. So dedicated that I just never wanted to leave the country.

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[Bobby Bones]

All right, what else you got?

[Matt Castle]

You missed the Sunday night football matchup. Did New York Giants debut against the Cowboys. That should be actually.

[Bobby Bones]

That's in New York too, right? I'm pretty sure that game's in New York.

[Matt Castle]

I think so.

[Bobby Bones]

Because I think the Cowboys are at home. Week two, I would assume, because week three is when they go to Rio, and I don't think they're going to play them on the road. Week 2 Before they go to Rio, if my speculation is correct.

[Kevin]

At home. Yep. In New York. Yeah.

[Matt Castle]

In New York.

[Bobby Bones]

Kevin has the 10 most followed current NFL players on Instagram. I don't know how many. I don't know who they are. So this is my page, so you can see. I just knew he had it. I can't see who they are. So I'm like, there's no cheating here.

[Matt Castle]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you want to go back and forth to see how many we can name?

[Matt Castle]

Sure.

[Bobby Bones]

Kelsey, are you going to go first?

[Kevin]

I'm starting.

[Bobby Bones]

Fair enough. Go ahead.

[Kevin]

So three strikes. You guys get three strikes and you're out.

[Bobby Bones]

Yep.

[Matt Castle]

Right. Okay.

[Kevin]

So, Kelsey. Yes. He is on there.

[Matt Castle]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, you just slid that one. Just jumped in first, huh?

[Matt Castle]

Well, I thought. That's a good point. Sorry about that.

[Bobby Bones]

Joe Burrow.

[Kevin]

Joe Burrow is on there? Yep.

[Bobby Bones]

What number?

[Kevin]

He is five. Kelsey was two, by the way, these

[Bobby Bones]

are all current players.

[Kevin]

They are current. One was not on a team last year, I will say that. But he has not retired or anything.

[Matt Castle]

Let's go with Stefan Diggs.

[Bobby Bones]

No, I don't know.

[Kevin]

Stefan Diggs is not on it. There's one from bat.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. He didn't play last year. He's not on a team. It's going to really be hard to not pick Ryan Tannehill, but I'm not

[Matt Castle]

going to guess it's a good poll, too.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm going to go with. Aaron Rodgers. Is there any just general interest in Aaron Rodgers?

[Kevin]

He is not.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. I don't follow him.

[Matt Castle]

Does he even have social media?

[Bobby Bones]

Good point.

[Matt Castle]

I mean, he seems like the type of guy that wouldn't care that much to have social media.

[Bobby Bones]

We DM him through smoke signals.

[Kevin]

He does have social media. Okay.

[Matt Castle]

All right. I'm gonna go with Christian McCaffrey.

[Kevin]

McCaffrey is number eight.

[Bobby Bones]

Dang. Good job. Okay, I'm gonna go with. And this is. This. I'm gonna. I don't know if I should guess this. Because this is not a great answer because I'm basing it on something that has nothing to do with football. I'm gonna go with Madison Beer's boyfriend

[Kevin]

who is.

[Bobby Bones]

You know, it is Club of the Chargers.

[Kevin]

Oh, I'm.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, Herbert. Justin Herbert.

[Kevin]

Yeah, I heard the name, but I couldn't remember who her boyfriend Herbert is. Not on.

[Matt Castle]

Golly.

[Bobby Bones]

I just picked her because it's Madison Beer's boyfriend.

[Kevin]

That is a good. Yeah, good logic.

[Matt Castle]

Josh Allen.

[Kevin]

Josh Allen. Not on there.

[Matt Castle]

Really?

[Kevin]

Yes. Two strikes each.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. It's gotta be Patrick Mahomes. Just cause he's the guy, it's gotta. Patrick Mahomes has gotta be on there. Cause he's a dude.

[Kevin]

Patrick Mahomes is number three.

[Bobby Bones]

Boom.

[Matt Castle]

It's up to you.

[Bobby Bones]

If you miss this, you lose. Because if I miss that, I lost.

[Matt Castle]

Okay, social media darlings, what numbers we

[Bobby Bones]

have off the list?

[Kevin]

2, 3, 5 and 8 are gone.

[Matt Castle]

Let's go with Lamar Jackson.

[Kevin]

Lamar Jackson is number six. Wow. Yeah, he is up there.

[Matt Castle]

Wow.

[Bobby Bones]

Good one. Good one.

[Kevin]

Okay, so we've got 10, nine, seven, four and one.

[Bobby Bones]

The fact that we can't get one is crazy. The most followed NFL player. I got to get this to stay in the mix here.

[Matt Castle]

Well, you think he's competitive?

[Kevin]

A little bit.

[Bobby Bones]

The problem is I, I. The rookies that made a lot of noise. I just can't jump on one of those dudes like Jackson Dart Although definitely has aura. I don't think has a bunch of followers.

[Kevin]

Thinking deep here.

[Bobby Bones]

Does anybody else with a celebrity in the NFL? Tony Romo was with Jessica Simpson for a bit. Remember that?

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, I do.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

He's all over espn and somebody's not on a team and they're like, hey, you're not even on a team, but may have you. Okay, I'm going to go with Dak Prescott.

[Kevin]

Dak Prescott just makes a list at number 10, that's gone. Did you get there with the Tony Romo? Just Cowboys.

[Bobby Bones]

Just. Yeah, like Cowboys. Merrick's team. Let me pick out the.

[Matt Castle]

There's part of me that wants to go receiver here. Then I've got.

[Kevin]

You've got four on the board still. Number one, number four, number seven, number nine.

[Matt Castle]

Let's go with Miles Garrett.

[Kevin]

Miles Garrett is not on the list. Our winner.

[Matt Castle]

But doesn't he have to steal?

[Bobby Bones]

But you went first on your own accord. You just jumped in there.

[Kevin]

Yeah, it's kind of your own fault there. Set yourself up.

[Bobby Bones]

I would go, here's who else I was thinking through because I was just going per position like who is the best? And so I had both Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson on my list of people to consider because they're the best receivers.

[Matt Castle]

That's what I was. You.

[Bobby Bones]

That's what you.

[Matt Castle]

I was thinking, remember I said wide

[Bobby Bones]

receiver, but I don't know that they would have massive followings. But that again, that's still. I. I don't know who the. The person is not on a team. Is it the person? A quarterback. That's not a team?

[Kevin]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, okay.

[Kevin]

Do you want me to tell you? Position.

[Bobby Bones]

We'll probably nail it if you do that. Offense or defense?

[Kevin]

Offense. He is, and I will say he is more than double. Travis Kelsey at number two. More than followers.

[Matt Castle]

Double.

[Bobby Bones]

Is he famous for something other than football?

[Kevin]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

Offensive player.

[Matt Castle]

What position?

[Bobby Bones]

Gotta be a receiver. It's not a quarterback. It's gotta be receiver.

[Kevin]

It's a receiver. Was not on a team last year.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh,

[Kevin]

one hand.

[Matt Castle]

One hand. There you go.

[Kevin]

Obj.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, yeah. Was Justin Jefferson on there?

[Kevin]

No. Or Jamar Chase?

[Bobby Bones]

Really?

[Kevin]

No. There were a couple other receivers though.

[Bobby Bones]

Who else on the list?

[Kevin]

No. Another USC guy though. Juju.

[Matt Castle]

Juju.

[Kevin]

He's a big social media guy.

[Bobby Bones]

He would like dance and stuff. Yeah, yeah. What else?

[Kevin]

And Tyreek Perry. Kill. And there's one more quarterback. Mary to Sierra Wilson.

[Matt Castle]

Should have known that.

[Bobby Bones]

That's a good one.

[Matt Castle]

That's pretty good too.

[Bobby Bones]

That's a good one too. All right. Do you have anything else you want to do?

[Matt Castle]

This is more like have fun.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. Give me have fun. All right, let's end on and have fun.

[Matt Castle]

All right, Here you go. What's harder is this segment. Okay. Surviving Bear Grylls or surviving a full night with a newborn.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, Bear Grylls. Because my wife really comes in strong with the newborn.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, you're kind of by yourself out

[Bobby Bones]

there in the mountains. Bear Grylls are pretty hard. So the wife kind of rocks the newborn.

[Matt Castle]

All right. What's harder hosting live TV with cameras on you or live radio when you have to fill time with no script?

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, tv. I can do radio. I could do a seven hour show right this second. The world is on fire. And if you don't talk for seven hours, it'd be compelling. It's going to explode.

[Matt Castle]

Go.

[Bobby Bones]

And I'd be fine. World's safe.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah. Proven on this episode of our podcast.

[Bobby Bones]

The world is safe. The world is safe. You see, Jeremiah Love's not going to spend his money.

[Matt Castle]

What do you mean? He's not going to spend his money.

[Bobby Bones]

He's just going to use his nil money. His NFL money. He's just going to put away.

[Matt Castle]

That's got to be nice. It's going to be nice. Good for him.

[Bobby Bones]

You know what? I'll hit him back in three years and check in and see if he's still doing it. But sounds like he's like got a good head on shoulders.

[Matt Castle]

Oh, I've got an opportunity to meet him because we were covering them obviously with NBC last year and what an incredible person and somebody that is mature beyond his years and very focused.

[Bobby Bones]

He's.

[Matt Castle]

He's special.

[Bobby Bones]

Jay Leno did that. He never spent his money from the Tonight Show. He only spent his money from touring. So he made all these millions. Never spent any of it. Saved it up. Wow. Which is pretty wild.

[Matt Castle]

Is it the same that you do?

[Bobby Bones]

No, I spent it all. No, no. I've got a baby now. So we could. Coming in. We buy a lot of diapers. Needed to come in.

[Matt Castle]

That's right.

[Bobby Bones]

The other thing that I was going to mention before we break into the second half of the show, which was the first part of the show. It's a weird story.

[Matt Castle]

Was,

[Bobby Bones]

man, I had a good one, too. Oh. Jeremiah Love may end up spending a lot more money than he thinks. He may be the first player to actually buy out of his own contract. You're right. The Titans are going to have to do something.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah. And I. Like I said, I can't imagine that they're not better this year. They had. They brought in 17 free agents, did well in the draft. Brought in Carnell Tate, another wide receiver. That's going to be a guy that demands coverage that will open up space for everybody else. Get the run game going a little bit. Robert Saw will get that defense going. It'll be. I think they're going to be super competitive.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't. But if they just show that they're going to be competitive the next year, that's good. Like, just give me a little.

[Matt Castle]

You've got to build. Anytime a new head coach comes in, you're resetting a culture and starting over. And everybody's got to understand the new standard that's being set. It takes some time. But once you set that foundation now you're building towards something and that's what you want to see. You want to see this organization building towards something in the near future.

[Bobby Bones]

All right. That's it. You're going to break, boys, and we'll come back and do the other part of the show that we already did. And you'll see why we didn't put this at the beginning. All right. There you go.

[Intro/Outro Singer]

We got lots to say? We got lots to say? We're glad you're here and we hope you stay? Cause we got lots to say? Yeah, we got lots of to say. Now here's Bobby and Matt, everybody.

[Bobby Bones]

Welcome to this week's show. Here's Bobby and Matt. I'm Bobby, that's Matt. Hey, what's up, buddy?

[Matt Castle]

Bobby, how are you?

[Bobby Bones]

I didn't know that you had seen Devil Wears Prada one.

[Matt Castle]

I did. It was a long time ago. I used to be a big. I guess I still am to a certain degree, Anne Hathaway fan.

[Bobby Bones]

You ever see Princess Diaries?

[Matt Castle]

Yes, of course I saw Princess Diaries.

[Bobby Bones]

I haven't. I'm not judging you.

[Matt Castle]

You haven't seen either one, but you

[Bobby Bones]

have kids that are older, so you may have watched it with your daughters, I'm assuming.

[Matt Castle]

No, I watch my wife, Devil Wears Prada, Princess Diaries. Don't know when I watched that, but it was a long time ago.

[Bobby Bones]

Thought you were going to say alone. He's like, yeah, I watched it alone.

[Matt Castle]

Watch that one alone in a dark room.

[Bobby Bones]

I have not seen it. My wife and I were talking the other night. She said, hey, let's watch Devil Wears Product two. And then she goes, well, we'll have to wait till it comes out to streaming because we have an eight week old. So we're not going to theater.

[Matt Castle]

You're not going to the theater? No.

[Bobby Bones]

And I said, I can't watch two. I've never seen one. And she said, you've never seen one? And then you just said that you saw one but you liked it.

[Matt Castle]

I did like it. It's good show.

[Bobby Bones]

Have you always seen one?

[Kevin]

Nope.

[Matt Castle]

You haven't seen it? Oh, you guys watch.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, I like it.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't mind chick movies.

[Matt Castle]

You'll like it.

[Bobby Bones]

I think.

[Matt Castle]

You really like it. Yeah, it's got a. It's great cast, good storyline and a little bit of drama. I mean, love interests. All the different things that you get in the like, kind of rom com. I guess it would be. The Meryl Streep is just she's well,

[Bobby Bones]

fun fact that I just told you a minute ago.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, tell the fans.

[Bobby Bones]

The fans.

[Matt Castle]

Tell the fans.

[Bobby Bones]

The Anne Hathaway character is my wife's friend.

[Matt Castle]

It's amazing. So I did not know that this story was based on A true story.

[Bobby Bones]

A story about my wife's friend.

[Matt Castle]

About your wife's friend and how long have they known each other? Forever.

[Bobby Bones]

I really should have followed up with her about this because she's talked about it a couple times. She's never said, hey, guess what? But something would come up with Devil Wears Prada, and she'd be like, yeah, that's so and so, my friend. That's wild. But again, I never thought much about it because I'd never seen the movie.

[Matt Castle]

Did she get any kickbacks for the success of the movie?

[Bobby Bones]

Her friend? Yeah, I don't know. My wife's stories are wild because. Just a little background on my wife. She grew up in a small town in Oklahoma. She graduated and went to Oklahoma Baptist. And from that, she graduated college and was like, all right, I'm out. I'm gonna do oil and gas commodity trading. So she. So where do you go when you do that? You go to Texas. You go to Houston, Right? So she goes there, moves up in her company big time. She's making a ton of money. She's doing international commodity sales and trading oil and gas. Right. And so she's like, I don't know. This is very fulfilling for me. I'm gonna go to grad school. After she'd already been in the workforce

[Matt Castle]

for four or five years, she went into the workforce and then went back to grad.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes. And so she says, I'm out. And her company's like, you can do it remotely. Don't leave. So she goes to Cal, you know, uc. Gosh, I knew stuff. I wish. I wish I knew stuff. I wish I knew stuff. And I'm not even going to text her and be like, what college you get your master's from?

[Matt Castle]

Cal Lutheran.

[Bobby Bones]

Cal. It's a cow. It's one of the cows. So she moved to Los Angeles for one reason. Her brother lived out there, and her brother had just had their first baby. And she goes, I can get in to Cal, and I'll go to get my master's. And I guess I'll still work because they want me to stay working. So she's doing all of that. She's getting her master's. She graduates number one in her master's class.

[Matt Castle]

She's wicked smart.

[Bobby Bones]

No, I'm telling you, it's wild.

[Matt Castle]

Is that where you guys met?

[Bobby Bones]

It's so annoying. Yes.

[Matt Castle]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

So she graduates number one in her class, and she moves out here. She's still. That's what she's doing. Even when she moves out here, she's doing international commodities. And she's like, up at 2am talking to folks in India. And I'm like, you just moved out here, Covid hit. Like, I made plenty of money. You can figure out what you want to do after we got to get married. And so she's like, all right. It's very tough for her because, like, she worked hard and she was making a killing financially. Like, she was for, like, a single.

[Matt Castle]

If anything ever goes south for you, honey, right back. I'm right back to work. You're on the commodities.

[Bobby Bones]

Just intimidating. And so she does that and. But I don't know. And I didn't ask enough questions about, like.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, it's. It's a crazy connection because she obviously. The woman's an author and she wrote the book and it's based on her. And Hathaway's character is.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes, my wife's friend.

[Kevin]

Does Brandon know all this?

[Bobby Bones]

No, I think I just told him five minutes ago. But my point is, I'm not going to text her and ask her.

[Matt Castle]

I was like, you know all this.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm going to text her and ask.

[Matt Castle]

I think he talks to your wife more than you do because he knows the whole background. Common knowledge, I guess. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Everybody knows it's my wife.

[Matt Castle]

Everybody. And then you don't even know.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I mean, I can text her. I hate doing this because she's like, you never listen to what I say. And my point.

[Matt Castle]

Oh, yeah, don't get in trouble when

[Bobby Bones]

she went to grad school. It's one of those cows, but I should know that.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, but you. You know what? You gave a great history of her right there, so I'm pretty proud of you for knowing.

[Bobby Bones]

And not only that, I know there's a lot of stuff because we had, like, a stalker issue that got really bad and the FBI had to get involved, so she is out of the public eye.

[Matt Castle]

But you. You were getting stalked or. She was getting stalked.

[Bobby Bones]

She. We. Oh, it's really bad. It's really bad.

[Matt Castle]

Let's get into that. Well, let's write a movie on it. No, that's not.

[Bobby Bones]

I've tried. Really? My wife's like, we're not. We're not doing it.

[Matt Castle]

That's scary.

[Bobby Bones]

It was awful.

[Matt Castle]

But did he get arrested or.

[Bobby Bones]

She got saying nothing.

[Matt Castle]

I'm sorry. I didn't. By the way.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, he works. He works here now.

[Matt Castle]

It's Brandon. Brandon knows all the details.

[Bobby Bones]

So, like, people don't even know. My wife does now because she's like, I don't want. I Don't want anything to be said that's scary, because she was kind of dunked into this, meaning she met me, and it's like, okay, join along what he has built as far as, like, the public life. And it was kind of big where she didn't get to grow in it. Where I was, like, doing small market, medium market, small tv, small. And so I got to, like, slowly get used to it.

[Matt Castle]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

Where she was, like, dunk. Like, we moved houses because people were, like, driving down, taking pictures in our house.

[Matt Castle]

It's gonna be so overwhelming for somebody that didn't grow up in the public eye that.

[Bobby Bones]

Or grow in it at all. Yeah, because I didn't grow up in it, but I, like, I had my whole young adult life growing into it.

[Matt Castle]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

And for her, it was like, hey, this dude. And you know what tricked her was we started dating pre Covid for a while, but then Covid hit, and she came over here and was like, hey, you'll come for a couple weeks. Because we didn't live together or anything. Covid be over in two weeks. And she was in California, so they were already shutting it down over there.

[Matt Castle]

Oh, yeah. Beaches were shut down. Face masks, couldn't recognize anybody.

[Bobby Bones]

So she was gonna move over here for just a couple weeks. And obviously Covid lasted a lot longer. But she thought, oh, this. This is kind of normal. Like, nobody's messing with them. Like, there aren't people. He's not touring. Yeah, she got a real dose.

[Matt Castle]

Tell her the story about when the guy tried to chase you down and kill you in the parking lot.

[Bobby Bones]

I wasn't having to go in way early in the morning because working from home. Because of COVID Yeah. She was like, man, this life's pretty good. And then as soon as the restrictions were off, I was, like, gone. People are crazy. People are driving by the house, taking pictures. People are stalking her.

[Matt Castle]

I gotta go to this thing and this thing, and we're gonna be in this state, and you have to be there.

[Bobby Bones]

I kind of sold her a bill of goods.

[Kevin]

Yeah, it worked.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, it worked. It worked. Look at you now. She's got a baby, too.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm gonna say we have a baby.

[Matt Castle]

You guys have a baby?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Let me see. Hold on, hold on. I'm gonna text her.

[Matt Castle]

Text her, find out.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm going to. Maybe she went to, like, Cal State. Cal.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah. Keep going. All the cows. Cal State Fullerton.

[Bobby Bones]

I know it's bad. There's just so many of those schools.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, there's a lot of cows in la, though? Yes. In la. Cal.

[Bobby Bones]

Is there a Cal State la? Hello? Right. No, it's.

[Kevin]

It's a cow.

[Matt Castle]

In Los Angeles?

[Kevin]

I'll say la. Yeah. There is.

[Bobby Bones]

No, it's not that one. I was just kidding. I was just saying that.

[Matt Castle]

Where's Cal Lutheran? Okay. I love that. We're just fully going through all the cows.

[Kevin]

Yeah, I know.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't know. You know what school I drove by, though, when we were out in California a couple times ago was Pepperdine. That's not even a school.

[Matt Castle]

I know. It's up on that mountain looking over the Pacific. It is, absolutely.

[Bobby Bones]

That's a luxury vacation for four years. Looking over the beach, I couldn't believe that was a school.

[Matt Castle]

Unbelievable. And the campus is gorgeous and everything about it. It's, like, remote. It's out there in Malibu. Right in the heart of, like, the most affluent area in Malibu. You go down the street and there's 15, $20 million homes right on the beach. It's crazy.

[Bobby Bones]

I couldn't believe it. My wife's like, yeah, that's Pepperdine. And I was like, the college.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And they don't have football team.

[Matt Castle]

They don't.

[Bobby Bones]

But they crush in, like, sand volleyball.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, sand volleyball. Volleyball. They have all the other sports. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Because Kevin lived in la, too, for a long time.

[Kevin]

Yeah. LA for a couple years was Southern California most of my life, so.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, similar Southern California to me is la.

[Kevin]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

As someone who never lived there.

[Kevin]

That's fair.

[Matt Castle]

That's fair.

[Bobby Bones]

I was only there for a few months.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, but you throw in Orange county and all that SoCal. San Diego.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, I don't consider San Diego Southern California.

[Kevin]

Consider it Mexico.

[Matt Castle]

Oh, it's 100% Southern California.

[Bobby Bones]

I consider that. Really? Southern California. Yeah.

[Matt Castle]

That's the valid Southern as you get in California.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

San Diego.

[Matt Castle]

Walk over to Tijuana, you get to the beach. Communities in la, like Manhattan beach and Hermosas and Redondo's, and it's got kind of the same feel. I feel like San Diego is more of a sleepy, beachy town. Like, it's got a different vibe to it.

[Bobby Bones]

You Spencer Pravor, mayor type guy?

[Matt Castle]

Huh? Say that again.

[Bobby Bones]

Are you keeping up with the LA mayoral race?

[Matt Castle]

No, not at all.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Kevin]

You haven't seen anything. I'm Spencer.

[Matt Castle]

No.

[Kevin]

Interesting.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you know who Spencer Pratt is?

[Matt Castle]

Yes, he's the actor, Right?

[Bobby Bones]

No, you're thinking of Chris Pratt.

[Matt Castle]

Yep. There you go.

[Bobby Bones]

This is what I love about you. And I'm serious. And I do, because I'm not In

[Matt Castle]

the politic world of LA right now, it's not politics. What is it? You said he's running for mayor.

[Bobby Bones]

He is, but he's from Kristen Cavallari, Laguna Beach.

[Matt Castle]

Oh, I heard about this guy. Yeah, yeah. And he started. It was all about the fires and all that stuff, and he went crazy because their house burnt down or something.

[Bobby Bones]

I just wondered if you were, like, keeping up.

[Matt Castle]

No, I'm not keeping up with him, but I did hear he's making a big push.

[Bobby Bones]

I think according to the prediction markets, he might slightly be in the lead now.

[Matt Castle]

Wow. Pretty wild. So how would you run? Because you said that you had interest in politics.

[Bobby Bones]

It's so crazy. I talked about this this morning on the show. There's been a couple stories that I was running coming. I'm not running for anything. And I'll say it. It's only the second time I've said this.

[Matt Castle]

And where would you run in what city would you want?

[Bobby Bones]

I'd run in our. So the true. This is a football show, but what the heck's going on?

[Matt Castle]

What's going on? It's OTAs.

[Bobby Bones]

So five years ago, six years ago, at this point, I grew up in Arkansas. I've always thought, hey, I should go back and find a way that from the inside I can help. Because I do try to help a lot from the outside, especially with things like food insecurity, because that meant a lot to me when people would help us eat. Got it. So that and education, because if you don't have an education, you don't have a shot in life if you come from a poor area, none. That's the only way to get out of poverty. So that is very much my priority. So I was recruited about five or six years ago. My years are going to be a little off to run for governor of Arkansas. Wow. And so they knew Sarah Sanders, who's the governor now, was going to run, and they were like, we need someone to run against her. Who is someone that has a name that people will know and someone that has a story. Now, for me, I've never been in politics, but got a great story. I came up hard and I'm extremely educated in how not just politics work, but state legislature. Like, I studied that for the I may run one day. And so I said, I don't know if I want to do this, but I'll listen. And so we went and we bought a house in central Arkansas just for that reason, in case I decided to run. I had a house. I've already lived There long enough that I can go back and run. I lived there seven years, consecutive. Heck, I lived there 20. I grew up my whole life there. So I had enough equity in the state to run. I had the state tattooed on my arm. Like, nobody looks at me.

[Matt Castle]

Nobody else has the state tattoo.

[Bobby Bones]

Nobody thinks I'm not Arkansas first because my wife just said, like, hey, if you ever want to run, why don't you run to Tennessee? And I'm like, I hear you, and I'd like to help, but for. It's all blood. Arkansas for me.

[Matt Castle]

How would she feel about you running?

[Bobby Bones]

None. Hates it. Like, the worst.

[Matt Castle]

Doesn't like the idea.

[Bobby Bones]

The worst. So I think about it, and so what happened is I wanted to know about everything that was ever in any file that I had ever done. If people were going to research me and. And have some.

[Matt Castle]

Your skeletons in the closet, for sure. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

You have to hire two people to research me. One that knew I was hiring them, one that didn't. That thought they were being hired by somebody.

[Matt Castle]

Oh, to actually crush you.

[Bobby Bones]

To find out. So they both came back with the same results. I have nothing.

[Matt Castle]

Oh, so you're already winning.

[Bobby Bones]

I have nothing that I haven't already said myself. There are things people could use against me, meaning Juan. He doesn't have a background in politics. Or there have been. People take personal shots at my upbringing. Drug addicted mom who died of an overdose. Dad left, like, no stability. People take shots of that all the time, which is weird because I'm not ashamed of it.

[Matt Castle]

And it smoldered you into the person. The adversity that you had to go through as youth.

[Bobby Bones]

Which is the only reason I would run. Right. So anyway, all this happens. The story comes out yesterday, two days ago. He's considering running again. I'm not. You're not? No. No interest.

[Matt Castle]

I would love to call you Governor.

[Bobby Bones]

No, I'm not running for governor anyway.

[Matt Castle]

Governor Bones, I'll refer to you. Would you still be able to do the podcast?

[Bobby Bones]

Probably, yeah, probably. There are no rules against podcasts. There are rules against getting on broadcast because it's owned by its government.

[Matt Castle]

Oh, okay. So that would be. That would throw a little wrench into it.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. But I'm not running. I have no interest in running. I think a lot of people now I'm gonna do 45 more seconds. I'm done on this. I think people now that want to get into politics, for the most part, they're looking for a way to have some sort of notoriety or fame. I don't need that not that I'm some wildly famous dude, but I get my itch.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Doing my stuff scratches it, so. And I work with a lot of places that I don't talk about, give places money. I try to help best I can, and I think that's more than what I could do if I were in office. And I don't want the toxicity of it, honestly. And my wife doesn't either.

[Matt Castle]

Okay, so he's not running, guys.

[Bobby Bones]

No, I'm not running at all. It's so funny because I talked about that this morning for the first time ever, and you brought it up today. Look at that. How about that?

[Kevin]

Is that the school Pepperdine?

[Bobby Bones]

No. Is she that Devil Wears Prada girl now?

[Matt Castle]

Are we going to text her and see where she went to college? No, we're not.

[Bobby Bones]

Nobody listening. I swear to God. Do not DM my wife. And be like, Bobby was confused on where you went to college. I know people will.

[Matt Castle]

No, it was. But you beautifully represented her as smart.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm not even going to say more. I'm not even going to say what she's doing now. She has her own business now. And not only that, not only did she go back and get her master's, she did it again.

[Matt Castle]

She got a double master's.

[Bobby Bones]

That's all I'm gonna say a different. I'm giving out too much information.

[Matt Castle]

I thought her name was.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, so if her name. Then there are BFFs.

[Matt Castle]

Was she at your wedding?

[Bobby Bones]

Dude, I don't know.

[Matt Castle]

You don't even know if she was.

[Bobby Bones]

I haven't even seen a movie. Like, you told me.

[Matt Castle]

It was like a closed thing. Everybody had to turn their phones. Like, you should know your guest list. Don't just tell me Luke Bryant was there and all these people was there.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't know.

[Matt Castle]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

But sometimes my wife will go like, hey, so and so was at our wedding, and it was from her side.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah. Yeah. That's sometimes tough. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. Somebody you played on your. Your travel softball team with. I don't know who that is. So there's a somebody who did some interviews of people, and that's how the book happened. Oh, okay. How you doing, by the way?

[Matt Castle]

I'm doing great.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Matt Castle]

Great. My daughter turned 16 yesterday.

[Bobby Bones]

Is that crazy?

[Matt Castle]

It's crazy when you get to 16. I mean, she can drive. Well, she. She will be able to drive. We set her her driving test after finals, which are next week, because she needed a little bit more time and figured she could concentrate a little bit more on the test itself. So. But 16 is a big year. It's crazy. She's gonna be a junior next year. It's two years left and then she's off to college. And you think that the day is coming, but it just gets closer and closer. It's wild.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you remember when she was a baby, like yesterday?

[Matt Castle]

Like yesterday. I remember being in the room when my wife gave birth. I remember her coming out and saying, it's a girl. Because we never found out with any of our kids whether we were having a boy or a girl was crazy. One of life's great surprises. But yeah, just being our firstborn too and being 16 was unreal. And then, plus, Mother's Day was the day before, and that's basically marked the day that my, my wife became a mother for the last 16 years and four, four more after her. So it's pretty, pretty fun weekend. We did have a baseball tournament, though. A Mother's Day one day baseball tournament.

[Bobby Bones]

I have a feeling it wasn't called the Mother's Day baseball tournament.

[Matt Castle]

It was.

[Bobby Bones]

It really was.

[Matt Castle]

I think it was.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, wow.

[Matt Castle]

And we had four games and we were delayed. Our last game started, the championship game started at 9 o' clock at night for 10U, by the way. 10U baseball. It wasn't very successful outing for our team. We lost 18 to 4. But we gave great effort. We battled through adversity. And I got home at 12. Pretty, pretty special weekend. Pretty special weekend.

[Bobby Bones]

We had a good one. It's just the baby's so young. There's really not much we can do. No, I try to just say take a couple hours and then about 45 minutes to it. She's like, I'll just come hang out with you guys.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, we did brunch. We cleaned the house. She went to a movie with a few girlfriends from the night before that said, hey, you want to go see Devil Wears Prada too? Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Matt Castle]

Boom. And then she came home. I picked up some steaks. Barbecued, grilled out. Whatever you say in the South. I always say barbecue. Do you say grilled out? Grill.

[Bobby Bones]

I would say grilled, yeah.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah. And barbecued some steaks. And it was fantastic. And that was our Mother's Day.

[Bobby Bones]

The reason. Cause steaks aren't barbecue.

[Matt Castle]

No, they're not at all. And I always say that for some reason. It's a West coast thing, I think.

[Bobby Bones]

Did you guys grill out in the west coast at all?

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, all the time.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, you did?

[Matt Castle]

Oh, yeah, it was great.

[Bobby Bones]

Like shrimps on Barbies and stuff.

[Matt Castle]

No, no, no. No, the basic.

[Bobby Bones]

Dig a hole in the sand.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah. No, no, no. I wasn't at the beach. I was in the Valley, dude. So just like we do here. You got a grill. Throw some stuff on there. Rock and roll.

[Bobby Bones]

Is the Valley like redneck California? Redneck Los Angeles, I should say.

[Matt Castle]

Yes, Redneck Los Angeles. That would probably be descriptive of it,

[Bobby Bones]

because I've been to redneck California. I actually enjoy redneck California, which is Bakersfield, Sacramento.

[Matt Castle]

No, that's real red.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, that's like real life. That's like how I grew up. You go up there like, oh, this is like. This feels comfortable.

[Matt Castle]

They got the French basks out there. You go and get, like, cow tongue for, like, appetizers and everything. It's different. That's not that redneck, but it's got a little redneck. It's very culturally diverse in the Valley. Various sections of different diversities and ethnicities and stuff like that. So it's pretty. Pretty interesting place to grow up.

[Bobby Bones]

Have you guys seen Project El Mary on movie yet?

[Kevin]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, I read the book and so I kept waiting, and then my wife got super pregnant, and then we didn't go. It's the Ryan Gosling. He's physicist. Are you familiar with it at all?

[Matt Castle]

Nope.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, good. He's a physicist. It's made, like, a billion dollars. It's based off a book. And then he goes up, try to save the world.

[Matt Castle]

Nope.

[Bobby Bones]

Then he meets an alien.

[Matt Castle]

He meets an alien? No, but it sounds interesting.

[Bobby Bones]

True story based on true story.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, true story for sure.

[Bobby Bones]

It's made a ton of money, and I was surprised that in the previews, they would show that he meets the alien, because that's a big part of the book that you don't know is coming. And then all of a sudden, like, halfway in, you're like, oh. Oh, my God, there's an alien.

[Matt Castle]

He really met an alien. So he befriended an alien or he just met an alien.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm just gonna say met, because I don't know what?

[Matt Castle]

You haven't seen what?

[Bobby Bones]

No, again, I read it, but I'm just surprised they even put that in the trailer because that was a big part of the book. Yeah, it's out. You can buy it now.

[Matt Castle]

Oh, well, then I'm gonna go watch it. Tell me again what it's called. Project what?

[Bobby Bones]

Hail Mary.

[Matt Castle]

Project Hail Mary.

[Bobby Bones]

And apparently it's super good for the kids, too.

[Matt Castle]

Okay, well, then that's even better.

[Bobby Bones]

I think they'll all like it. The book was awesome.

[Matt Castle]

Books are usually better than the movies.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you know why?

[Matt Castle]

More detail.

[Bobby Bones]

Absolutely.

[Matt Castle]

Imagination.

[Bobby Bones]

More detail, and you spend more time with it. So if you're actually going to read a book for me, I'm not a super fast reader. I read pretty fast. But it may take me a week to read a book. I spent a week thinking about it, living with it.

[Matt Castle]

Oh, yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And so a movie. I spent a couple hours. Even if the movie's fantastic, I've spent

[Matt Castle]

a week invested in order to read a book. And my wife can rip through a book and like, three days.

[Bobby Bones]

That's crazy.

[Matt Castle]

It takes me, like, two weeks to get through a book, even if I'm really interested in. Just because I don't have a ton of time to read.

[Bobby Bones]

Dang, you're so busy. What's that like?

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, it's not that busy. Honestly. It's retired life. It's retired life from the NFL. I'm not that busy. I just am a real slow reader.

[Bobby Bones]

Would you want to go to the Cowboys game in Rio?

[Matt Castle]

No. Maybe. I don't know.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm not asking you to go with me.

[Matt Castle]

Are you? I was going to say. Is that like an invite? Are we going. Are we going to the Cowboys game in Rio?

[Bobby Bones]

Eddie is my friend that, you know, he's a huge Cowboys fan, and we were talking about it, and he was like, I don't know. I think Kevin even said, rather go to a World cup game, though, didn't you?

[Kevin]

If it's in Brazil.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, see, I'd rather go to NFL game because I know nothing about soccer.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, but I heard that experience, the World cup experience alone, just with all the fan. And the fanfare is unbelievable. The energy.

[Bobby Bones]

I've heard the same thing about fighting. And.

[Matt Castle]

And I would go see that, too.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. But I don't care about the experience

[Matt Castle]

running with the Bulls.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, would you ever run? You know? Yes, I would. Here's what I would do. No. And you said, yes, I wouldn't. But here's what I do. Okay. They're going to release the Bulls. I'd be at the very front of the group. So there's a whole group that when they release the Bulls, that takes off running. I'd be at the very front of the group. Not at the back closest to the Bulls. I'd have you with a phone, and I would go, like, take pictures as soon as they open the gate. And so you take like 15 pictures in a row, and I jump up on the gate. I never got near the Bulls, but I just ran with the Bulls.

[Matt Castle]

And then somebody knocked you over, and you're the one that they get the pictures of getting just whammy.

[Bobby Bones]

No one's knocking me over because I'm getting off there. So I'm not running with any bull.

[Matt Castle]

I don't have any. Actually, now that I think about running with the bull seems just insane to me.

[Bobby Bones]

Have you ever seen the cheese hill?

[Matt Castle]

Is that the one?

[Bobby Bones]

Pull it out, boys.

[Matt Castle]

Let me see the cheese hill, please.

[Bobby Bones]

So this is very similar to running with the bulls. They've been doing it for hundreds of years.

[Matt Castle]

Is this the one where they run flat down like this, the hill?

[Bobby Bones]

They chase the cheese and they go.

[Kevin]

Yes.

[Matt Castle]

And they're somersaulting down, just concussed, broken arms, everything.

[Bobby Bones]

Have you seen the documentary on this?

[Matt Castle]

No, I just. But I did see a clip of it, and I saw these guys, and they are running, like, so fast, and that hill looks like it is straight down.

[Bobby Bones]

And they do this for generations. And you catch the cheese and you're the winner for the year or whatever. What's the official name of this, Kevin? It's because it's in England, right? Yeah.

[Kevin]

England's annual cheese rolling race.

[Bobby Bones]

If you guys are just listening to this and you haven't seen it, you have. This is the greatest thing. Okay, let's put it up on the screen here, if we can.

[Matt Castle]

Here we go.

[Bobby Bones]

The cheese is rolling down the hill. They're all racing. They're nowhere near the cheese, but they are just tumbling, bumbling.

[Matt Castle]

Oh, my God.

[Bobby Bones]

They're going head over top. Oh.

[Matt Castle]

And they're there picking them up at the bottom.

[Bobby Bones]

People break their legs, Collarbones are broken. That. That's the kid that got the cheese.

[Matt Castle]

I mean. And so it's just bragging rights for the year.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Matt Castle]

Or is it a money prize?

[Bobby Bones]

No, there's not really a traditional. Yeah, it's tradition, and you're the cheese guy of the year, so.

[Matt Castle]

Wow.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Oh, man. Dan, we don't have YouTube Premium up here.

[Matt Castle]

No, we don't.

[Kevin]

Here we go.

[Bobby Bones]

This is Cooper's hill. They throw the cheese down. Everybody takes off. The front guy wipes hard. They're up.

[Kevin]

Oh, God.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, man.

[Matt Castle]

Bear Grylls needs to do this on his next episode.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, my God. I would break a collarbone for sure. And it's, like, muddy enough to be slick.

[Matt Castle]

I mean, every one of those guys after their first step are just going down. That guy looks happy back there. He knows he's not getting the cheese.

[Bobby Bones]

Look at this guy. He goes. The guy in the middle, like, he falls, gets up, wipes out again.

[Matt Castle]

Broken tailbone. It's so good.

[Bobby Bones]

Dude, that's crazy. Look at that guy. What is. He's holding the cheese up. You're the cheese champ, buddy. You got a concussion.

[Matt Castle]

Oh, here we go. That guy's going. Oh, that's the worst one we've seen so far.

[Bobby Bones]

He's still going.

[Matt Castle]

Oh. Oh. He doesn't know where he is, but he's going to win.

[Bobby Bones]

He's dedicated.

[Matt Castle]

He is winning.

[Bobby Bones]

He does not know his name, but he's dedicated. Oh, what's your name, son? You just won.

[Matt Castle]

Give me the cheese.

[Bobby Bones]

What is that? What is your coolest athletic achievement that has nothing to do with football or baseball or, like, organized sport that you, like, competed in? Because, for example, like, I've done a couple Olympic triathlons. Good.

[Matt Castle]

Good for me. I would never run.

[Bobby Bones]

I hate running.

[Matt Castle]

I hate running.

[Bobby Bones]

I've climbed some cool stuff.

[Matt Castle]

There's not one that's on the top of my head, like, kind of stayed mainstream.

[Bobby Bones]

Maybe being an athlete, though, you never wanted to risk it, because that's your.

[Matt Castle]

Well, that was part of it, too. Like, part of your contract is if you get hurt off the field, then you got to pay back your signing bonus or it works against your salary. And I was like, I'm never taking that risk. Like, I never skied or snowboarded when I played or did any extreme. Just because what am I gonna do,

[Bobby Bones]

just go riding motorcycles?

[Matt Castle]

No, no. I. I rode dirt bikes one time with a buddy of mine that was like, he was in motocross and all that. He came out, and he's like, here, dude, hit this one. I had no idea what I was doing. I couldn't even change the gear. It was brutal.

[Bobby Bones]

You ever skydive?

[Matt Castle]

I was asked to skydive multiple times, and that scares the hell out of me. No. Have you?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Matt Castle]

Was it exhilarating?

[Bobby Bones]

No, it's terrible. I didn't want to do it to begin with.

[Matt Castle]

Terrifying.

[Bobby Bones]

Terrible.

[Matt Castle]

Did you do it as a tandem jump?

[Intro/Outro Singer]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. So I woke up one morning. I had a nightmare about skydiving. I hate heights. I was living in Austin.

[Matt Castle]

Well, that's the. Definitely the activity you should do, then hate it.

[Bobby Bones]

Scared to death. And I thought, I don't want to be scared of this. So by myself, I got in my car and I drove to a skydiving place that day. Didn't tell anybody I was doing it. I went into the facility, and I said, hey, I'd like to skydive. And they said, oh, for your group, you need to Book a few days out. I said, I don't have a group. I'm by myself. So for a minute, I think that was like a suicide bomber or something, because I was by myself.

[Matt Castle]

Oh, they were definitely questioning, like, where you were mentally, for sure.

[Bobby Bones]

And I said, I would just like to jump. I'm super scared of it. So I think it'd be good for me. And they said, hold on a minute. And they went and looked at a group and there was a spot open in a group that was about to go up. And so they were like, you can go up with this group. And I said, I'm in scared to death.

[Matt Castle]

No proper training? No.

[Bobby Bones]

When you tandem on task, nothing tandem, no training needed.

[Matt Castle]

Wow.

[Bobby Bones]

And so I go up and they give. So I think they match people in the group with people based on their size, weight. Well, there was only one person left who wasn't going. And I promise you, I'm six foot in shoes, probably a little taller and shoes. I'm six one. Hey, six one. I'm six one.

[Matt Castle]

Six one.

[Bobby Bones]

My driver's license is six one. She had to be five two.

[Matt Castle]

She was your tandem drum.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. And I remember walking out.

[Matt Castle]

She's on your back too, right?

[Bobby Bones]

She's on my back. I remember walking.

[Kevin]

Can't see her.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, but you walk out, you. You strap up, but you don't get on the plane in tandem. You strap up once, you get in there. Have you done it?

[Kevin]

Yeah, I've done it once.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, you have too.

[Bobby Bones]

I wanted nothing to do with this, but I thought, if I don't do this again, I'm such a wimp. And so we go up in this rickety plane well over San Marcos, Texas, there's nothing. It's just fields. And they give you, like a watch or whatever. It tells you how high you're going up. And they're like, at 12,000ft, that's when we're going to jump. This plane was not going to make it 13,000ft. I think 12,000 is over. And so again, we go up and she is behind me, and I'm looking forward into the plane and I can't see her, but she's talking to me. It's like she's talking from down below. She's like, okay, here's how we're getting there. Yes. And so she goes, we're gonna count to three. I'm scared to death. We're gonna be the first ones out.

[Matt Castle]

We were.

[Bobby Bones]

She goes, we're gonna count to three and then we'll go. And so they have you let go of the sides and pull your arms in, because if you hold the sides, you may not let go, right?

[Matt Castle]

You're like, no, actually, I'm not going.

[Bobby Bones]

So they go, one, two, jump. Because on three, people tense up. Or they fight it and they don't want to go, yeah. So we go flipping out. Multiple flips in a row. Flip, flip, flip, flip, flip, flip, flip. And there's a guy who jumped ahead of us, just the camera guy in the video. Flip, flip, flip. And I'm like, oh, my God, we're

[Matt Castle]

barreling out of control. This is it. It's over. And I didn't say goodbye to anybody.

[Bobby Bones]

There's nothing even cool to see. And nobody knew I was skydiving. Like, I didn't tell a single soul. So if I would have died, they'd have been like, that ain't true. He did. He would never have skydived.

[Kevin]

He did.

[Matt Castle]

What are you talking about?

[Bobby Bones]

No. So I. As soon as we stopped doing all the flips, it was very peaceful because there's an understanding of, yeah, I might die or I might not. But it's already been determined at this point. And it's just like, your head is out the car window. It's wild. There was no crazy like, oh, I'm fine. Ah, nothing.

[Matt Castle]

You didn't scream at all.

[Bobby Bones]

And you're.

[Matt Castle]

At first, maybe. Maybe the tumbling. That would freak me out.

[Bobby Bones]

You just don't understand what's happening with your body. You're just like, what the hell with my eyes?

[Kevin]

And.

[Bobby Bones]

But by the time you get down and you're straight and you're falling, it doesn't feel like this big gut, you know, sucked out of you. Like, when you hit a hill in a car, for sure, that doesn't happen. You're just going, huh? It kind of gets peaceful. But then. Because when they pull that cable, because it's there, and you go. It's not even that. The parachute comes up, and then you just start going slow. It shoots you up into the air, right? So it's, boo, you're up. And then you think you're gonna die, because if anything happens to that shoot at that point, oh, yeah, you're dead. Yeah, you're dead.

[Matt Castle]

So you're definitely dead.

[Bobby Bones]

We did the thing where we. I got on the ground, I was like, oh, my God. And so crazy. Part of the story has not hit yet. After the break. No, after the break, we land on the ground, and I'm like, oh, my God. And they're taking pictures, and I still haven't told anybody that I was doing this. Even after I had, like, got back in my car and driven home. And I thought, I'm gonna wait and on the show, take the video and the radio show and the pictures and show them, because they won't let you have your cell phone or anything up there. There's nothing that I had. It was coming from. They gave me a CD and some pictures, right? So I put the CD in my PlayStation because it was the only. I didn't have a DVD player. And I had the pictures on, like, a. Maybe on the CD as well. That Monday, I forgot it, and I was gonna do it. So then I'm like. I was like, I'm gonna do it on Tuesday. That Monday morning, while I'm on the air, my house gets broken into two and they steal everything. Including my.

[Matt Castle]

No, they didn't.

[Bobby Bones]

Including my skydive video, which you cannot. And I have, luckily, have, like, two pictures still from that. But there's no. I can say I tumbled.

[Matt Castle]

I could say you can call them back. And they didn't have another CD or something like that. No hard drive.

[Bobby Bones]

But they. Bro, that morning is when my house got fully robbed while I was on the air. Took every. Took my PlayStation TV. But in it was that stupid disc.

[Matt Castle]

So there's no real proof that you actually skydive. And you could have just made this whole story.

[Bobby Bones]

There are some pictures of me in, like, a green suit.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah, but are you on the ground?

[Bobby Bones]

Probably. I think I know.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah. I told nobody I went skydiving. I've got nothing to show for it.

[Bobby Bones]

Miserable for me. I hated every minute of it.

[Matt Castle]

I'm sorry that somebody broke into your house and stole. I'm sorry.

[Bobby Bones]

They stole everything. Yeah, everything good, dude. And they walked out the front door in the day, daytime. They knew I was on the air. Did you like it, Kevin?

[Kevin]

Like it? I wouldn't say liked it, but at first it's very scary, but you don't really know what's going on, like you said. And then it does get peaceful. But the scariest part for me was, like you said, with the plane going up, being in that plane, I was like, okay, I'm ready to jump now because this plane's going down.

[Bobby Bones]

Tiny, rickety. There's a reason the plane's only flying skydive.

[Matt Castle]

There's an open in the back.

[Bobby Bones]

Ours open on the side.

[Matt Castle]

On the side.

[Bobby Bones]

The back looks cool. Unlike those war movies.

[Matt Castle]

They're strapped in, they jump out.

[Kevin]

What about hot air balloon? You guys on that?

[Bobby Bones]

I Did that. It's the worst thing I've ever done. Worse than skydiving?

[Matt Castle]

Because. Never done that.

[Bobby Bones]

Don't. Yeah.

[Matt Castle]

It's just a. Right.

[Bobby Bones]

Something happens there.

[Matt Castle]

In a basket.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes. Without a parachute.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

And nothing, like, tied to your waist. Like, if you go over, you go

[Bobby Bones]

over and, like, some dude.

[Matt Castle]

Doesn't sound, like, funny.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't know what credentials you have to have to fly a hot air balloon.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

You got to pull a rope and know how to work a. And they don't. There's nowhere to land that thing. Like, you go up without a plan.

[Matt Castle]

That's what I'm trying to figure out. How do they get them back to where they're supposed to land? Or you just land.

[Bobby Bones]

So you. While you're in the air, you have to find a field or something, because it's not like there's a landing strip like an airplane.

[Matt Castle]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

You have to find a field. If the wind starts blowing, dear God,

[Matt Castle]

you're at the mercy of the wind, too. Right.

[Bobby Bones]

And then once you land, because you're just in a basket. Once you land, their truck comes and, you know, they, like, put it all together. But I got out of there. It's worse than skydiving.

[Matt Castle]

I've never done that either. I've really had no desire.

[Bobby Bones]

Parasol?

[Matt Castle]

No. Parasailing. Nope. Jet skiing. Jet ski.

[Bobby Bones]

Jet ski is fun for, like, 11 minutes. Yeah, it's a solid 11 minutes. Like, one. Wow.

[Matt Castle]

This is cool.

[Bobby Bones]

You do one of those turns where you almost throw yourself off. You're like, all right.

[Matt Castle]

Wakeboarding. Wakeboarding's fun.

[Bobby Bones]

Wake skating.

[Matt Castle]

I've done skating.

[Bobby Bones]

Wakeboarding was a little too hard on my joints.

[Matt Castle]

It's hard as hell to get up

[Bobby Bones]

when I wipe out. It's hard.

[Matt Castle]

The first time doing it, I thought I ripped my forearms apart. Because you wake up the next day, you can't even close your fist because you're fighting it, and you don't know how to just straighten out your legs and get up.

[Bobby Bones]

Up. Oh.

[Matt Castle]

But once you're up, you feel pretty accomplished.

[Bobby Bones]

Wake skating is fun because there are no bindings. It's not wake surfing. It's a little faster than wake surfing. You're basically on, like, a skateboard, and there are no bindings for the feet, and.

[Matt Castle]

Oh, that would be tough as hell to get up then.

[Bobby Bones]

It's harder than surfing. Different than Wakeboarding. Wakeboarding goes super fast. And when you wipe out, it hurts. Yeah. Because you're going fast for that purpose.

[Matt Castle]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

Wake skating a little faster than surfing. Surfing is like, for chill.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah. You're just in the back of the boat and you let go of the rope. Guys that can let go of the rope with the wake. It's pretty impressive.

[Bobby Bones]

You can.

[Matt Castle]

No. Hell no. I'm always holding onto the rope. I'm like. And then my. My fat just starts to float down into the wave, and I'm like, okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Then that's like, goodbye. The boat drives off.

[Matt Castle]

Took me 10 minutes to get up, and my ride was for three minutes. That was fantastic.

[Bobby Bones]

Goodbye. We should put this on the back half of the podcast, the extreme sports, all this, this whole part. So if you're hearing this, just know we did this at the beginning. And the stuff you heard at the beginning was actually what we did. Secondary, we have not talked about. Yeah, that's all right. More entertaining. Yeah. So, okay, so we're gonna wrap. Wrap up the show. Thank you for listening, which in real world, we haven't even talked about what you heard at the very beginning yet. Thank you for listening to the show. That's Matt Castle and Bobby Bones, his kickoff team. Kevin, That's Brandon Ray. We've had lots to say. All right, goodbye, everybody. Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is a production of the NFL and iHeart podcasts. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart podcast.

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