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Lots to Say: Radio Row Day 1- Vince Wilfork, Justin Reid & NFL Honors Recap
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Bobby Bones
Visit your nearby Lowe's on Colorado street in Kennewick. Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is a production of the NFL and iHeart podcasts. We got lots to say we got lots to. Hey, we're glad you're here and we hope you stay. Cause we got lots to say. Yeah, we got lots to say. Now here's Bobby and that. All right. Welcome to the show from San Francisco, which is crazy after being here for a couple of days leading to the Super Bowl. The super bowl is not actually here. It's in Santa Clara.
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Matt Castle
Right.
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Bobby Bones
But I don't know. I don't know if I've ever been to Santa Clara, but that's not an easy drive. It's not super quick.
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Matt Castle
I don't believe it is. I mean, when you're in San Fran, Santa Clara is probably about a 30, 40 minute drive from here.
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Bobby Bones
Is this familiar to you? Like San Francisco growing up. Did you ever come north?
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Matt Castle
No, I was here occasionally but like I don't even know what I was up here for.
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Bobby Bones
It wasn't like a family drive.
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Matt Castle
It wasn't a family drive.
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Bobby Bones
Everybody get in, we'll go to.
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Matt Castle
No, we're, we're still in Southern California. Like Northern California and Southern California should be two separate states.
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Bobby Bones
Is there a difference in people?
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Matt Castle
100%.
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Bobby Bones
What is a person from Northern California?
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Matt Castle
Northern California there. Unsuspecting. They're under the radar. But they could be a billionaire. Right. You would never know. They're not trying to flaunt their money. You go to LA and somebody's dressed up in a three piece suit driving a Range Rover but goes home to a 900 square foot studio apartment. Right. So it's a facade. Yeah. But here these people just, they have money but they don't need to flaunt it. That's what I feel like. The main difference is giving me your.
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Bobby Bones
Quintessential super bowl story. Something that happened to you over the last couple of days.
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Matt Castle
I mean, I'll say I've walked more around this city and probably got more steps in than I ever have before. And I'm telling you, some of those hills are treacherous. I'm sweating. I changed my shirt three times yesterday. Just going around to different meetings and, and doing the different interviews and all that stuff. It's an awesome city, I love it. But those hills there, you better be in shape.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah, it's, it's almost bigger than a hill. I think we're underselling it because obviously it's not a mountain. But you know, I've never seen a major city where the inclines are that steep.
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Matt Castle
Right. Like you've probably done the peloton where they say take it up to 12 and you're feeling it. These had to be 20.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah, they're crazy.
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Matt Castle
I mean it was, it was unbelievable.
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Bobby Bones
For me being someone who lives on this in central time zone. Obviously we didn't come for very long so my body is still on central time. And so night two that we're here I go and I do this trivia game show with barstool and that we won our first match so we made it to the finals. So I didn't get out until 7:30 or so, which again feels like 9:30 to me. Hadn't had dinner and I would have just been good to go grab Something super quick and go Chipotle. Anything quick, guaranteed. But the problem is, is that there's just a lot of people out here.
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Matt Castle
Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
And everyone's like, we want to see you. Let's go to dinner. Let's have a meeting. We hardly ever are in the same town. So we're going to dinner at this place, like Iris or something, and we're not even gonna get there until 8 o', clock, which, again, I'll do the math. It's 10 o' clock to my body. I'm so tired. I go to bed at 8 o'.
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Matt Castle
Clock.
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Bobby Bones
Anyway, Central time. So we get to this place and I'm thinking, all right, it's not super packed. So I'm gonna grab some food quickly, I'm gonna order quickly, and I'm gonna do the. Hey, guys. Really good to see you guys. I'm gonna go ahead and jump.
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Matt Castle
Yeah, I'm exhausted.
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Bobby Bones
I'm gonna go back because I got a long day tomorrow, you know, doing the show, doing interviews. And as soon as we sit down, there were five people total at the table. Hey, we've already ordered the entree. It's the very famous entree. And I was like, great. In my mind, I'm thinking, they've already ordered. It's about to be here.
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Matt Castle
Yeah. You're fired up. You're like, okay, this is. This is the best thing.
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Bobby Bones
Yes. They know I'm tired.
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Matt Castle
Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
So they order the entree. And I'm like, cool. What is? They said, it's the chicken. All right. Would I have ordered the chicken normally? Probably not.
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Matt Castle
Probably. It was the ribeye for 30.
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Bobby Bones
Yes.
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Matt Castle
Right.
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Bobby Bones
So instead the chicken. But I'll eat anything, and I'm ready to get out. And I said, cool. Why the chicken? They said, well, it's so famous. It takes 75 minutes to make. And I'm like, oh, well. And in my mind, I'm like, that sucks. But they have been there. So I'm thinking maybe they've been there for a half hour.
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Matt Castle
Yes.
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Bobby Bones
No, they sat down five minutes ago.
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Justin Reed
Oh.
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Matt Castle
So when they said they got here early, they literally. They literally just sat down right before.
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Bobby Bones
You and ordered the 75 minute chicken. And they weren't bringing out any other entrees until the 75 minute chicken came. So we sat there.
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Matt Castle
They didn't bring out any appetizer. Nothing.
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Bobby Bones
Appetizers they did, but not any entrees. So nobody could leave.
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Matt Castle
And so I'm so happy I didn't.
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Bobby Bones
Go to dinner with you because I. Yeah, I told you, I Said, I'm gonna text you if you want to come, come. But again, it was 8 Pacific, and you were like, no, I'm good, man. I'm tired. And I'm like, man, I wish I could say that. And so it finally came. I didn't get back to my room until 10:20, which is.
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Matt Castle
Wow. Did it live up to the expectation of a 75 minute?
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Bobby Bones
It could have been a pure gold, and it still wouldn't. It could. I'm so tired.
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Matt Castle
Right. You're just like, I. I'm just so pissed off that I had to wait 75 minutes to eat this.
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Bobby Bones
It was me and then three, like, agents, my agent and two other agents, and Von Miller, who you know. Yeah. The funny thing about Von Miller, and I don't know him. I do now a little bit. But we're sitting there and his guy next to me goes, hey, you should talk to Vaughn about being on Dancing with the Stars. And at this point, oh, yeah, I don't know Vaughn. And a lot of the athletes that I know, they had two type experience with it. They loved it, or they got kicked off so quick that they didn't have enough of an experience to love it.
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Matt Castle
Right. They didn't get enthralled in the actual process of.
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Bobby Bones
Right. The grind of training, which. So I also were sitting at a table with five dudes, and I don't want to be like, hey, man, did you dance? Did you like to wear the shoes?
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Matt Castle
You know that I won Dancing with the Stars.
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Bobby Bones
So I said, I don't know. I don't really. He goes, no, no, no. Just say something to him about it. And so I didn't tell him I was on it first said, hey, Vaughn, who was your partner on Dance with the Stars, man, He lit up. He was like, it was Whitney. And I said, oh, yeah. I said, how was your experience? He goes, it was the greatest thing ever.
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Matt Castle
And how'd he do?
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Bobby Bones
I think he made it pretty far. I don't. He made me semifinals.
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Matt Castle
That's great.
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Bobby Bones
And so I said, what you. What you like about it? And he's like, I love the training. He goes, it was after won the first Super Bowl. He was so happy to talk about it. He still didn't know I was on it yet.
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Matt Castle
Right.
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Bobby Bones
And one of his guys that doesn't know me goes, bobby, weren't you on the show? And I was like, yeah, yeah, I was on the show. And so he said, how was your process? I said, I thought it was great, but I had no dance experience at all.
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Matt Castle
Right.
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Bobby Bones
I went into it, and so he's like, yeah, how far did you go? And it was the awkward thing where I knew he didn't win.
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Matt Castle
You have to say, I didn't want.
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Bobby Bones
To be like, well, I won.
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Matt Castle
But you did.
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Bobby Bones
But I did. I said, well, yeah, I won my season. He's like, why?
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Matt Castle
Really?
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Bobby Bones
I say, yeah, that probably blew his mind. I think it did a little bit. Because you look at him.
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Matt Castle
Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
With no dance experience. Look at me with no dance experience.
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Matt Castle
Well, how many people that is? You probably know that even from our profession that has gone on and they're eliminated. Like, you said, round one, round two. You probably maybe met one or two winners in an entire lifetime, you being one of them.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah. Well, I did tell him he was a little shaken by it. However, when we were finishing our conversation, he was like, man, I never get to talk about this.
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Matt Castle
Really?
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Bobby Bones
Yeah. He was like, nobody I hang out with ever wants to talk about Dancing with the Stars.
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Matt Castle
No, they want to talk about him rushing off the edge and killing people.
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Rob Gronkowski
Yeah.
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Matt Castle
Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
And so I think he really liked that. But then he was smart. He said. He looked at his phone. We finished that conversation. We started talking about, like, because he. I think Washington still has his rights to play next year. And he, he's talking about he was feeling healthy, feeling good. And he said, man, I, I, I, I gotta, I gotta jump, guys. I gotta call or a party or something. And I was like, man, I'm so jealous. He knew what was up.
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Matt Castle
Exactly what was up. And he was one of those guys that had enough clout to be like.
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Bobby Bones
Hey, he for sure did.
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Matt Castle
I'm bouncing.
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Bobby Bones
And he had, like, four appetizers. So he had enough food, and he was going to a party where there was food too.
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Matt Castle
Yeah, yeah.
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Bobby Bones
Where I was. And I was just going back to my room. But he was, he was super nice. He has, like, a chicken farm.
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Matt Castle
Yeah, he's really into that. Right. That, like, his existence is. He's always been, like, outside the box a little bit.
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Bobby Bones
He's a country boy. He's a country boy, but Texas A.
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Matt Castle
M and, yeah, rocks the little cowboy hat and embraces it. Chicken farm.
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Bobby Bones
I said, that's what I said. Chicken farm. He said, yeah, it was kind of a science experiment we started in college, and now it's just grown. But he was wearing, like, chicken farm hat.
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Justin Reed
Chicken farm.
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Matt Castle
How many chickens are we talking about?
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Bobby Bones
No idea.
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Matt Castle
Like, is it one of those that they go in and they show the videos online where they have to take some of the take some of the flock out and, like, knock them on the side of the head.
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Bobby Bones
He was more excited to talk about dancing in sequins than he was the chicken farm.
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Matt Castle
Really?
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Bobby Bones
Yeah. So I just asked a question. I was like, what's up? He said, no. We started in college and still going. And I think when he was doing his promotion of stuff, because when we sit down and do these interviews during super bowl week, a lot of these people get hired, right?
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Matt Castle
Oh, absolutely.
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Bobby Bones
And they'll do interviews and at the end of the interview, you agree to ask them a question and they get to talk about whomever hired them.
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Matt Castle
Right.
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Bobby Bones
So.
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Matt Castle
And it's scripted, too.
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Bobby Bones
So I think he was out promoting his chicken farm. Like, he would do the interviews and.
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Matt Castle
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Matt Castle
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Julian Edelman
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Rob Gronkowski
Yeah, you just told me a second ago.
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Bobby Bones
Fair enough.
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Julian Edelman
I'm guessing it has something to do with fighting dehydration.
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Rob Gronkowski
Speaking of, do you know seven potential signs of mild to moderate dehydration?
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Julian Edelman
There's thirst, obviously. And six more, right?
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Rob Gronkowski
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Julian Edelman
There'S one more that I can't remember. Does that mean I'm dehydrated?
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Rob Gronkowski
Maybe. But I think I'm dehydrated because you're irritating me right now.
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Rob Gronkowski
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Rob Gronkowski
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Bobby Bones
If I gotta tell you, you are the mayor of this place.
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Matt Castle
I don't know about that.
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Bobby Bones
And partially it's because you played in the league for how many years?
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Matt Castle
14.
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Bobby Bones
So you have a lot of friends and a lot of people that you played with. Also, you're a really nice guy. You're a really warm guy, and on top of that, you're a freaking Patriot.
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Matt Castle
Yeah, it helps when the Patriots are in.
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Bobby Bones
The Patriots are in there.
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Matt Castle
They're here. And there's a lot of Patriots.
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Bobby Bones
Like, you couldn't go anywhere without people stopping you and being like, mad Castle. Or just one guy. Just live next to you and live next.
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Matt Castle
And no relationship, no football relationship? No whatsoever. Just no.
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Justin Reed
No.
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Matt Castle
From Manhattan Beach.
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Bobby Bones
Who did you see here that was good to see because at some point you had played with him.
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Matt Castle
Yeah, I mean, we got to interview Vince Woolfork, and that was. It's always great to see him because he was a guy in the locker room that was exceptional. Great player, but good, good teammate, fun to be around. So I haven't seen him in quite some time. And so to see him. And then who else did I see here? I mean, there's so many different faces that you see.
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Bobby Bones
Did you see. Was Matt Light here?
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Matt Castle
Matt Light wasn't here. I did not get a chance to see him.
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Bobby Bones
I don't even know if he was here. The reason I say that somebody asked. I was there, and someone said, hey, you know, a really great interview you guys did was Matt Light. I said, well, that's his Castle. New one.
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Vince Wilfork
Yeah.
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Matt Castle
I love, love Maddie. And I don't even know if he's here. You know, that's the hard part was when you're getting prepared to come to this place and you know so many people, do you shoot a text out to every person and potentially good call. Do I need to go see this person? This person, everybody?
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Bobby Bones
Yeah, Right.
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Matt Castle
But you could go to every single party and do all these different things. But it's a lot to do in a very abbreviated period of time. So normally I just bank on the fact that I'm going to run into some people, particularly over there at Media Row.
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Bobby Bones
You would just be walking through, though, and people would grab you with a. With a standing microphone, like a camera, and they would.
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Matt Castle
That's the wildest part about Media Row is that you. You have the places that are designated to set up for podcasts and those and the shows and all that stuff. But as you're walking through there, anybody with a camera, they've got their own phone on a stand, that they'll sit there and they'll go through a 5, 10 minute interview. I mean, I promoted something and told Patriot fans and Seattle Seahawks fans to raise money for a cause that the guy never even told me what I was raising. Raising money for. So I was like, yeah, I mean, I'm all for it, man, if I can help the kids and help the people.
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Bobby Bones
Love the kids.
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Matt Castle
Love the kids. I was like. At one point, I was like, but what am I promoting? Like, I have no idea. Like, it could have been something so abstract that nobody's ever heard of, But I'll do it because I'm all about the kids.
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Bobby Bones
I only saw the top of Fernando Mendoza's head.
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Matt Castle
I ran into him in the restroom. And so with NBC coverage, we had him for a game this year. And so I was in the room during the production meetings, got to shake hands with and talk to him for a little bit. Great guy. But of course, I'm coming out of the bathroom, and all of a sudden, there's Fernando. I was like, hey, Fernando. And he kind of looked at me awkwardly, trying to put it together. And I said, hey, I was with NBC. Matt Castle. Nice. Oh, he's like, matt, nice to meet you. He goes, we talked for a second. I congratulated him on great season. Then he hands me his phone. He says, hey, can I get your number? He's like, I'm just gonna go to the restroom. You can just put it down on the. On the sink right here. And I was like, yeah, no problem.
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Bobby Bones
He just gave you his phone?
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Matt Castle
He gave me his phone and gave it to him, unlocked it, went to Contact Max. I plugged in my info. And then I was like, I'm just gonna hold on to this and give it back to him when he comes out. And then all of a sudden, he comes out awkwardly, and he had, like, one of his guys, a handler, probably taking him around to the different media outlets he's got to talk to. And he comes out, and I was gonna shake his hand. I was like, yeah, maybe we'll do the little elbow bump because you just got done going to the restroom.
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Bobby Bones
But what an unassuming nice guy.
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Matt Castle
Such a nice guy. I mean, he's honestly one of the.
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Vince Wilfork
Of the.
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Matt Castle
The guys that you interview that, you know, he's got it all together. Like, he's smart. He Understands the game, understands the position he's in. And so I'm interested to see where he goes this year because it's going to be. They're going to get a good a guy that's got his head on his shoulders and super mature for his age.
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Bobby Bones
I mean, for sure, it's Vegas, right?
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Matt Castle
You got to think if you need.
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Bobby Bones
A quarterback, unless they trade the pick.
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Matt Castle
Trade the pick, get draft capital and.
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Bobby Bones
They'Ve got a plan, probably go for the quarterback even though they're not ready.
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Matt Castle
You know, still on contract, there he is.
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Bobby Bones
But he's not going. If they get Fernando, I imagine he goes and either plays a few games behind Gino or goes immediately.
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Matt Castle
Either that or they're going to keep him there as a mentor that's been through every part, every scenario that you can go through as a quarterback if he's willing to do so and still be able to pay him because Fernando salary is going to be lesbian in the first round of the draft.
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Bobby Bones
Are there quarterbacks who are good in that role of being that mentor? And some that just are terrible that you'd never want to be that role?
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Matt Castle
I think it's the quarterbacks that have been the starters and somebody takes over their position that they struggle with that. And I was with Teddy Bridgewater in Minnesota and look, I've been in both. Both roles at that point in my career where I was the guy in. In Kansas City. I started all 16 games when I was in the Patriots. But at the same time I always appreciated somebody that was in a backup role that you knew had your back, that you didn't feel like was trying to always earn back his position or do anything like that. And they were because you spent so much time as a quarterback group together that you want to know these guys in the room don't have a secondary agenda and kind of behind your back, kind of maybe backstabbing, you're doing all that. But I think it's the guys that lose their job maybe mid season or something like that that have a very difficult time being able to adapt to that new role and not play and have to be there to say, man, I'm going to make this guy the best version of himself and try to help and teach versus still have that competitor's edge inside of them and say, no, I want my job back. And I think those are the guys that struggle.
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Bobby Bones
Who was your backup in New England?
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Matt Castle
In New England. So my first, first year I was there. It was. I was actually third on the depth chart because Doug Flutie Was there, so. And he was phenomenal. You know, he's 41 years old at that point. It's not like he was threatened by anything I said. He's a throwback to the 1980s. Drives up in a Trans Am with an eagle on the front, like, would sometimes beat those in off during meetings. It was just the, you know, the time of life he was in. Next year, we only had two quarterbacks on staff, myself and Tom. And then Tom had some injury. He got banged up against the Buffalo Bills. He had this huge leg contusion. They didn't know if he could go, so we had to bring somebody in. Brought in Vinny Tessaverde was to be three to be quarterback three in case I had to start. Yeah, we needed a backup quarterback. So Bill had the relationship with him going back to Cleveland. Brought in Vinny Tassiverti, which is another incredible mentor. Wealth of knowledge.
- [23:01]
Bobby Bones
Did you like him?
- [23:01]
Matt Castle
Awesome dude. Awesome dude. And when he'd get on, like, you talk about a presence. Physically, he. This dude was 6, 5, 6, 6. Like, already was that big dude yoked up still. He'd get in there and do 315 on swats at 42 of years of age, like. But he was like this calming presence. Awesome dude. And he'd get on the. I remember when he would first get on the plane ride to go to way trips. He'd look like a straight up gangster. Right. He lived in Jersey at the pinky ring on the Kango hat, like, I was like, dude, this guy definitely hangs out with John Gotti.
- [23:39]
Bobby Bones
Whenever you were starting the year that Brady went down.
- [23:43]
Matt Castle
Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
Who was your backup?
- [23:44]
Matt Castle
Kevin o'.
- [23:44]
Bobby Bones
Connell.
- [23:45]
Matt Castle
Kevin o'. Connell. So they drafted him that year, I think in the second or third round. And they probably at that point. Point, kind of like they did in New England, is they would recycle their backups, knowing they had had the number. I mean, they had Tom Brady that they had to pay. So they weren't going to really go out there and get a veteran guy and put another guy on the payroll worth significant amount of money to impact the cap. So Rowan Davey was there before me. They recycled him. I mean, they got rid of him after his tenure was up. And then I was in my fourth year of my rookie contract. So they probably were grooming Kevin to come in and take over that backup role when he was ready.
- [24:22]
Bobby Bones
Because they have to pay him.
- [24:23]
Matt Castle
Because they didn't have to pay him.
- [24:24]
Bobby Bones
And you were on your rookie deal, about to run.
- [24:25]
Matt Castle
When I was on my rookie deal. Let Me go to free agency, but who the hell is going to pick me up? That after that year, not having starts playing sparingly, playing in some games. The only significant time I had while Brady was a starter was my rookie year. It was the last game of his season against Miami where Belichick let me go in there and play three quarters. And really what I think it was, was, was an audition to see if the following year I would be able to be that backup. And so luckily I went out there and played well and was able to create myself a role as a backup quarterback. But thank God I got that opportunity because I don't know where or where. I don't know where my career would have gone from an NFL standpoint if I didn't get that opportunity that year. Because, you know, teams aren't looking for a guy that's never had a starter, no experiences, their backup quarterback, because God forbid their starting quarterback goes down and somebody's got to step into a role and it's an uncertainty.
- [25:15]
Bobby Bones
Who is your backup at Kansas City?
- [25:17]
Matt Castle
Kansas City. Brody Croyle. And he had. He had been the starter there for a few years, but had suffered some injuries. One of the most talented arms I've ever been around. Awesome guy, super supportive. Tyler Palko was there as well with me in Kansas City. My last year in Kansas City, they brought in Brady Quinn, another incredible guy, great player, could throw it, spin it. Then I went to Minnesota to back up Christian Ponder.
- [25:43]
Bobby Bones
You were backing up Ponder?
- [25:45]
Matt Castle
I was backing up and I was really a guy. There was probably some questions about Christian because he was a young kid that got thrown into the fire, hadn't had a ton of success. You know, I was probably one of the higher paid backups at the time. And so unfortunately for Christian, he got banged up a little bit that season. So I made probably four for. I probably made five, five or six starts that season just due to injury. And then late in the year, they just had me play out the rest of the year, which allowed me to basically option out of my contract just to be resigned for a higher, higher number and go back to Minnesota. Because I wanted to go back to Minnesota. I really enjoyed my time there. And then I started that next year. That's when they brought in Teddy Bridgewater. They drafted in the first round. So I. I guess I was that bridge guy. And then the bridge crumbled pretty early because I broke my foot in game three, which sucked. And then I'm on IR for the rest of the season. Then I got traded to Buffalo Dallas. Dallas traded in the same year Dallas traded for me. Once Romo went down and Brandon Whedon was there with me as my backup there. Romo came back somewhere late in the season, then got that, broke his ribs again or did something to himself where played out the rest of that year and then I went to Tennessee to back up Marcus Mariota.
- [27:03]
Bobby Bones
Did you know since you had started and had backups before, heck, you had been a backup, but sure, because you were a third string guy and then you were the backup.
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Bobby Bones
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- [27:15]
Matt Castle
Right.
- [27:15]
Bobby Bones
Was that like, did you know the role of the backup and how to be a good backup?
- [27:19]
Matt Castle
I did.
- [27:20]
Bobby Bones
Did you accept it?
- [27:22]
Matt Castle
I accepted it. I obviously as a backup, when you get in that role, you don't know when you go to like Minnesota and you're a bridge guy and there's maybe some uncertainty about the starter, there is that possibility right away that you think, hey, at any point I could go in and got to be ready and all that stuff. And obviously injuries happen all the time in the league, but in terms of being a backup and a good teammate, that never was an issue for me. And even some of, through the, some of the difficult adversities I went through in Kansas City when I got hurt, Brady Quinn went in and I had a concussion, was out for a week. Brady played pretty well. But there's that. Okay, our team's not doing too well. Should we start Brady at one point? And so you've got to learn sometimes how to swallow your pride and do what's best. And I think that that's also something that stuck with me and how people viewed me coming into their own organization and postpone, I mean continued my career because they knew that I was had stand up character. I'm a team guy, I'm going to be able to help develop. And I'd seen enough football and had, gosh, I don't know how many starts I had in the NFL, but I, I probably was in the 70s or something like that in terms of starts. So I had a lot of experience and knew how to prepare and take the wisdom that I've learned from Tom Brady, from Vinny Tesla Verde, from all these. These guys throughout my career that help these young guys learn how to prepare and be a voice and do what they need to do to be successful.
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Bobby Bones
Whenever Philip Rivers came back, obviously he was older, but the joke was his insurance was about to run out because after five years or so. Was that a big deal for you in insurance right now?
- [32:53]
Matt Castle
Man, I got five kids. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? We gotta get a Cigna and look at how much you actually gotta pay for health insurance and dental and all that stuff.
- [33:01]
Bobby Bones
How many years ago did you retire at this point?
- [33:03]
Matt Castle
20?
- [33:04]
Bobby Bones
18, 19. 2020. So you've only been without NFL insurance for a couple years.
- [33:08]
Matt Castle
Yeah, it kicks me, right? And you know what? Every single time I look at that bill and I go, man, what is the deal? I gotta get a corporate job. The nice part is working for NBC, if you, you clock enough hours, they offer an insurance. So I have insurance through NBC these last two seasons. And I'm like, oh, this is great. But now, now who knows what's going to happen because my contract's up this year and we might be moving on, so gotta go. Go back out there, baby. Keep, keep on the grind.
- [33:35]
Bobby Bones
Do you think you'll stay living in Nashville?
- [33:39]
Matt Castle
I do, yeah. Yeah. We've been here since 2016 because you.
- [33:43]
Bobby Bones
Landed here because of the Titans, right?
- [33:44]
Matt Castle
We did, but we also committed here because of Tennessee.
- [33:48]
Bobby Bones
Oh, so you came to the Titans.
- [33:49]
Matt Castle
So I went to Detroit after I was done. When I played two years here, I went up to Detroit to finish my career and we came right back. We had the option to go back to California, anywhere we wanted to go. But it kind of. The way in which you can raise your kids, the values, the people, all the. All the stuff, it kind of slowed life down for us a little bit, and the kids are happy in school, so I. I see us for the long run.
- [34:10]
Bobby Bones
Being in Tennessee, I often didn't for a while, especially when my wife moved here. I kind of had a system, a support system, a friend group, and she.
- [34:23]
Matt Castle
Moved from California, which is hard.
- [34:26]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Which is hard for her. Was hard for her. And I thought, you know, I could see myself at some point moving to Fayetteville, Arkansas, and then being in Nashville a little bit, you know, for the things I needed to do, because Fayetteville would be, like, closer to Oklahoma, where she's from. It's an hour from her hometown.
- [34:43]
Matt Castle
Yeah. Her support system's there. Yeah. Yes.
- [34:46]
Bobby Bones
At least her, like, family. And. And so I always thought maybe we'll move to Fayetteville.
- [34:51]
Matt Castle
Are you telling me this now to let me know that we're no longer doing podcasts?
- [34:54]
Bobby Bones
No, not at all. Because we. We bought a house in Fayetteville, and.
- [34:57]
Matt Castle
Oh, God, now the writing's on the wall. Here we go.
- [35:00]
Bobby Bones
We definitely bought a house in Fayetteville, but she now does not want. She loves Nashville.
- [35:04]
Matt Castle
Oh, thank God.
- [35:05]
Bobby Bones
And that's my point, is, like, I never thought that she would be someone who loved Nashville, only because I just dunked her in the water. She moved here, had. And for a long time, she didn't have any friends, so it was hard for her to love a place where she had no friends. It wasn't even about the place.
- [35:18]
Matt Castle
Yeah.
- [35:18]
Bobby Bones
But now, you know that we're about to have a kid and stuff, she's like, I really love Nashville.
- [35:23]
Matt Castle
Yeah.
- [35:23]
Rob Gronkowski
Yeah.
- [35:23]
Matt Castle
It's a great place to raise a family. Bobby. I don't know about Fville, but, I mean, Nashville's great place. Yeah.
- [35:29]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Fayetteville has Arkansas.
- [35:31]
Matt Castle
It does have Arkansas.
- [35:32]
Bobby Bones
I was thinking about if I lived there, which I'm not.
- [35:34]
Matt Castle
Oh, my gosh, you're already such a homer.
- [35:37]
Bobby Bones
Can you imagine? I would ask you the tickets to everything I would be going to. Gymnasts, volleyball, for sure.
- [35:44]
Matt Castle
Intramural games, everything.
- [35:46]
Bobby Bones
It would be the greatest experience. But I think when you say that about Nashville being so great, I never really felt that myself, because it never really mattered where I lived.
- [35:55]
Matt Castle
Right.
- [35:56]
Bobby Bones
You know, grew up in Arkansas, worked there, but then moved to Austin. Loved Austin.
- [36:00]
Matt Castle
Thought I was gonna say. I always thought you were an Austin. Yeah.
- [36:03]
Bobby Bones
It was the best city, really. I'm telling you, I had finally decided because I had built my own syndication company. I was starting to make real money that I could make more money off of because I had a. I owned some of what I was doing because I bought it all, invested it, and I was like, you know, I think I can live here and just build it out from here. And I'm not kidding. When I finally had to come to terms with, I think I'm just gonna live here. I'm not gonna go to LA or New York, because that path had presented itself, but not in ways that I felt comfortable leaving it all behind. So I'm gonna do it all from here. Within 30 days, the Nashville situation presented. As soon as I accepted that I was in Austin and gonna stay in Austin, it was so weird. So I was like, this is home. And Nashville's like, let's do it. So we moved, and I always was like, I don't like Nashville, mostly because all I was doing was working. So I really didn't trust anybody in the industry because I didn't know why they want to be my friend. So I didn't love this city because it was all work for me. But now that I am able to slow it down a little bit and my wife's able to love it, I do like it. I don't like winter. Winter sucks.
- [37:07]
Matt Castle
Yeah, but it's still a mild winter, comparatively speaking. Last week was crazy, or whatever it was with the ice storm, but how often do we get that?
- [37:13]
Bobby Bones
But it's not mild to me because I grew up in Arkansas. It's about the same.
- [37:17]
Matt Castle
I grew up in California, bro.
- [37:18]
Bobby Bones
Oh, that's true. But you lived in Minnesota. You lived in Buffalo. We just lived in Buffalo. That changed everything about you.
- [37:23]
Matt Castle
Same Francisco.
- [37:24]
Bobby Bones
That's winter.
- [37:25]
Matt Castle
It was 70 degrees. I was sweating my ass off, dude. I was not adapted to that. Isn't it amazing, though, like, how you can have the best laid out plan and you think you're going this direction.
- [37:37]
Bobby Bones
My plan was finally laid out.
- [37:38]
Matt Castle
Yeah. And you're good to go. And then all of a sudden, something presents itself, and in a heartbeat, you have to make a decision and you go, man, I'm gonna trust, I guess, my instincts. Divine intervention, bro.
- [37:48]
Bobby Bones
What I'm worried about now because I finally come to terms that it's Nashville for me.
- [37:52]
Matt Castle
Oh, it's gonna.
- [37:53]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, I know. I've finally come to terms, like, yeah, I can do this. I can live out this career that I've always wanted. It's just gonna be from Nashville. But, like, I'm there. So now I'm Just kind of looking around.
- [38:04]
Matt Castle
Oh, man. What big opportunity will present itself?
- [38:08]
Bobby Bones
But then if I say that I'm canceling out the opportunity, right?
- [38:10]
Matt Castle
No, no, you're not. You speak it into existence.
- [38:13]
Bobby Bones
Who's the, let's say, biggest legend that you just saw this weekend?
- [38:17]
Matt Castle
Weekend biggest legend.
- [38:18]
Bobby Bones
Because I saw. I saw. I saw Marcus Allen staying in line to get a credential.
- [38:22]
Matt Castle
Not gonna lie. Bo Jackson was.
- [38:24]
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
- [38:25]
Matt Castle
I mean, he's just a legend.
- [38:26]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [38:27]
Matt Castle
Of the game. And his career was short, but at the same time, growing up, I mean, he was like, on par with the Michael Jordan's Bo knows and all that.
- [38:37]
Bobby Bones
So famous.
- [38:38]
Matt Castle
I had the poster. I mean, because how cool was that ad and everything else else? We saw Dion out there. Dion's obviously one of those guys that's a hall of Famer and somebody that you go, anytime you see Dion, he's got that wow factor.
- [38:53]
Bobby Bones
I had to tell you who the boom guys were. The Costco guys.
- [38:55]
Matt Castle
Yeah. I didn't know the Costco guys, but now I'm gonna go just dive deep into the other.
- [38:59]
Bobby Bones
You shouldn't.
- [38:59]
Matt Castle
Yeah, it's them reviewing. You said it's them reviewing Costco food.
- [39:03]
Justin Reed
And.
- [39:03]
Matt Castle
Yeah.
- [39:03]
Vince Wilfork
Boom.
- [39:04]
Bobby Bones
And. Yeah.
- [39:04]
Matt Castle
Giving booms.
- [39:05]
Bobby Bones
Because they walked by and they're like giving us dabs.
- [39:07]
Matt Castle
Yeah.
- [39:07]
Bobby Bones
I think because people just recognize them all the time. So they are outward about just being nice to folks.
- [39:12]
Matt Castle
For sure.
- [39:13]
Bobby Bones
They were so big. They were on, like, I think. Aw. Wrestling. Like, they were wrestling.
- [39:17]
Matt Castle
Really?
- [39:18]
Bobby Bones
They became so big on the Internet, and I'm not sure it was like, big justice. Kevin, you don't know them, huh? No, I didn't either, but now I do. But you knew the British guy that gave the compliments.
- [39:29]
Matt Castle
Oh, yeah. With the smoking jacket.
- [39:30]
Bobby Bones
I'd never seen the guy before.
- [39:31]
Matt Castle
You look lovely today.
- [39:33]
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
- [39:34]
Justin Reed
Yeah.
- [39:34]
Matt Castle
Like, you walk up and. And he's had a lot of these golf tournaments and stuff. And I've seen some of his feed, and it's actually hilarious because it's this polite gentleman making very nice comments to people in a funny manner. And you laugh your ass off. I don't know his name or anything.
- [39:46]
Bobby Bones
And they were right by each other. And I said, oh, there's the boom guys. And Castle's like, there's the compliment guy. And both of us are like, we don't know who the other person is.
- [39:54]
Matt Castle
I don't know who you're talking about. I guess your feed's different than mine, probably.
- [39:58]
Bobby Bones
Although you're not on a feed much. No, you're Limited. You don't care about it as much, but you have five kids.
- [40:05]
Matt Castle
Yeah. I. I mean, if I. If I go down that scrolling thing. Yeah. It's not something that I'm really. I'm captivated. Captivated by it in the moment, but I'm not one of those searching for new content. Like, I'll do the food porn thing where you go through especially Super Bowl Sunday coming up. Right now.
- [40:23]
Bobby Bones
All these people have sex with food.
- [40:25]
Matt Castle
Yeah. And it's. It's something that calms my mind, you.
- [40:28]
Bobby Bones
Know, whatever it takes, you know?
- [40:30]
Matt Castle
And if you want to, like, by me, go ahead. No. Yeah. The people that are making, like, these incredible dishes for Super Bowl Sunday that I saw one, the jalapeno poppers were made in a different way there. Yeah. I geeked out over that. I was like, honey. And then I just sent it to my wife, said, can you make this?
- [40:47]
Bobby Bones
Oh, does she.
- [40:49]
Matt Castle
No, I don't think she's going to. Because we're going to super bowl party, probably.
- [40:51]
Bobby Bones
Oh, no. I mean, if you. To send her a recipe while she makes.
- [40:54]
Matt Castle
My wife can cook her ass off.
- [40:56]
Bobby Bones
Really?
- [40:56]
Matt Castle
Like, phenomenal.
- [40:57]
Bobby Bones
My wife, too. I was so surprised by it.
- [40:59]
Matt Castle
I'm so lucky from that standpoint, because she can put. She can go into a recipe book and any of these barefoot contests of this, that, and the other, and look at a menu and I mean, it is incredible. She's great.
- [41:12]
Bobby Bones
That's super cool.
- [41:13]
Matt Castle
Yeah.
- [41:14]
Bobby Bones
Do all your kids ever want to have the same meal, though?
- [41:17]
Matt Castle
Oh, hell no. That's the hardest thing. Are you kidding me? You could make the best meal like that, I think. Thank you. Thank you, honey. One kid's not eating it. One kid says, I'm not hungry. The other one eats it. One eats half of it. Can I have a. Can I just have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich? I was like, guys, we're not an open restaurant, and if we have food in there from another meal that they wanted, can we just have that? And then sometimes you feel guilty and you give in. That is setting a precedence that you don't want. Because then they figure, look, if. Just bag enough, like. And I. We were reading this book one time, and they said, look, if your kid doesn't want to eat, just say, fine. You. This is what's being served tonight. And you can sit here at the table and if. But this is what's dinner. And then they go to bed starving. I was like, God, I am. I. I can be one of those people that's a little bit hard at Times in that sense. But I don't want my kids going to bed starving when they're sad. Six or seven. I was like, that feels like it's a little ruthless.
- [42:15]
Bobby Bones
Your old teammate, one mvp, Matt Stafford.
- [42:17]
Matt Castle
That was awesome, man. I mean, just even his acceptance speech, having his girls up there, I mean, he's a girl dad and all that. But the year that he had was phenomenal. Such a remarkable guy and, you know, obviously out coming off the season that he has to be recognized as an MVP because he's had an incredible career. But this is another notch on his belt, which I think eventually will lead to the hall of Fame. And then I thought the coolest part of the speech was that he put all the rumors to bed. Right. He said, and I'll be back next season. Hopefully we're not here. We're playing in the game. I thought that was great because we're not sitting there speculating what are they going to do at the quarterback position. You let the organizational organization know and you rock and roll. It was great.
- [42:57]
Bobby Bones
It's also rare that someone wins the MVP and then has to let people know if he's going to retire or not.
- [43:03]
Matt Castle
Yeah, it's usually the younger, younger guy win that mvp, right?
- [43:06]
Bobby Bones
Usually, yeah. The old guy is not winning the MVP and then is at the center of speculation of are they going to keep playing. He beat Drake May by one first place vote.
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Matt Castle
One first place vote. I didn't know it was that close.
- [43:18]
Bobby Bones
And you know who got one first place vote? Justin Herbert.
- [43:23]
Matt Castle
Okay, come on.
- [43:24]
Bobby Bones
Great. You don't know this. Let's hear your reaction. So it was in the. And it would have been enough to flip it, but Stafford. And it was like, I don't have the nerds. Like maybe 36 first place votes.
- [43:33]
Matt Castle
Right.
- [43:34]
Bobby Bones
Drake May won first place vote. Less than that, 35. Yeah, I made the number up. I'm sure Kevin will tell us. And then third was Justin Herbert on first place votes. Justin Herbert won first place vote.
- [43:48]
Matt Castle
See, that's. See, that's where it comes into question. Who made the vote?
- [43:53]
Bobby Bones
He's mad at the voters again. It's Belichick.
- [43:54]
Matt Castle
Crap.
- [43:55]
Bobby Bones
Here we go.
- [43:56]
Matt Castle
Who made the vote and what was your reasoning? I just want to hear the reasoning behind it. You might, you might compel me to go. That makes sense to me.
- [44:03]
Bobby Bones
I saw the guy saying why he voted for Herbert and he said it's because he had two offensive linemen and he was able to do this without a lot of resources. That was why he gave him the mvp.
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Matt Castle
Vote in some people's minds for sure. And Justin Herbert had a phenomenal year considering all the circumstances what he went through.
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Advertisement Voice
But.
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Matt Castle
But at the same time, the body of work between those two players that we're talking about right here, I mean, it's hard not to say it was a two horse race, so to speak.
- [44:33]
Bobby Bones
With you though, you have. What are the numbers you got? We had Matthew Stafford, okay. With 24, Drake May with 23. Justin Herbert had one. That would have shifted. You did have Josh Allen with two. But no one's going to argue that Josh Allen shouldn't have been up there in that mix. But it was that Justin Herbert one vote that kept it from happening. But also that vote could have also gone to Matthew Stafford. So it's not like that vote automatically would have went to Drake May.
- [45:02]
Matt Castle
But what happens if the voting process ends in a tie?
- [45:06]
Bobby Bones
Then you have CO MVPs.
- [45:08]
Matt Castle
Do you really? Yeah.
- [45:08]
Bobby Bones
You don't flip a coin or anything. You literally.
- [45:10]
Matt Castle
Because I didn't know if it would maybe be a re not. They can't revo. They'd be vote for the same people.
- [45:14]
Bobby Bones
Well, you also have have first place votes, second place votes, third place votes. So they do it like that because McCaffrey was like at four or five.
- [45:20]
Matt Castle
Yeah.
- [45:20]
Bobby Bones
They really only listed the top three in the, the, the final. But if it's a tie, it's literally a tie. It's so hard for there to be a tie because you're ranking everyone.
- [45:29]
Matt Castle
Yeah, I was gonna say, has there ever been a CO MVP?
- [45:33]
Bobby Bones
Three cops. Yeah, who else?
- [45:36]
Matt Castle
When's the most recent?
- [45:37]
Bobby Bones
In 2003. 2003. Let me see if I can get guessed them for sure. Oh, okay. 2003. So I would have been. Was it Manning? Is he right? Yeah. Okay, Manning. And let's just go to the Heisman. Charles Woodson.
- [45:54]
Matt Castle
Mvp. When is DB ever won? It's got to be a quarterback.
- [45:59]
Bobby Bones
But didn't Woodson beat him for the Heisman though?
- [46:01]
Matt Castle
Who was in. Who was in the Super Bowl?
- [46:03]
Bobby Bones
That's my point. Oh, I got you. Yeah, I was just saying let's just graduate that. Yeah.
- [46:06]
Matt Castle
Who, who was in the super bowl that year?
- [46:09]
Bobby Bones
Dude, I don't know.
- [46:10]
Matt Castle
Years.
- [46:11]
Bobby Bones
So.
- [46:11]
Matt Castle
Well, 2001. 2002. Didn't the Patriots win both of those and they wanted no.
- [46:19]
Bobby Bones
4. I can't tell you a single year anybody did anything. I don't even know what last year was. Covid fried my brain. Okay, so Peyton Manning, it's gonna be an offensive player.
- [46:26]
Matt Castle
Adrian Peterson, I don't even know if he's in the league at that point.
- [46:31]
Bobby Bones
I don't. I just guessed somebody. So we can stop my version of this game. Say a name, Castle.
- [46:36]
Matt Castle
I'm trying to think back to two. So Peyton Manning's afc. Were you.
- [46:43]
Bobby Bones
Were you in the league then? Was that right before you?
- [46:45]
Matt Castle
It was right before me. Nfc.
- [46:48]
Bobby Bones
It can be two AFC guys.
- [46:49]
Matt Castle
Yeah, yeah. Could it. Be all the customers that I'm thinking of? My error is not Alex Smith. He wasn't even in the league. But he was a really good football player at that point at Utah.
- [47:12]
Bobby Bones
We're just gonna buzz you if you don't just yell a name.
- [47:14]
Matt Castle
Yeah, just go ahead.
- [47:16]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, give us a hand.
- [47:17]
Matt Castle
Okay.
- [47:18]
Bobby Bones
The Titans. Derek there. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Dude, I'm throwing it.
- [47:25]
Matt Castle
Was he really?
- [47:25]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, I'm throwing at Chris Johnson.
- [47:28]
Matt Castle
I didn't realize McNair was an MVP of the league. Gosh, that's amazing.
- [47:33]
Bobby Bones
Who else? 97. 97. And Barry Sanders. I wonder if they voted the same way then. Because it gets down to like point, like 0.00. I wonder if it was just like a straight who's mvp? Like, if they were teetered back there then it would be so hard to have CO MVPs now. It would be with how the voting is. Do you know the other one?
- [47:55]
Advertisement Voice
Yeah.
- [47:55]
Bobby Bones
1960. 1960. Oh, yeah. Newt Rockney. And Joe Schmidt, third baseman for the Phillies. Okay, so congratulations, Stafford. Defensive player of the year. Do you. Do you know who it was before?
- [48:14]
Matt Castle
I tell you I don't, but I guessing it's Miles Garrett.
- [48:17]
Bobby Bones
Miles Garrett.
- [48:18]
Vince Wilfork
Yeah.
- [48:18]
Matt Castle
It was really tough one on that. I'm sure the voters. What were the votes for that. That award?
- [48:23]
Bobby Bones
I never saw the actual votes because it wasn't clickbaity going, oh, look at Drake. He almost won offensive player of the year was what? Jackson, Smith and Jigba.
- [48:33]
Matt Castle
Yeah, deservedly. So what do you have, 1700 yards or something like that? Receiving.
- [48:37]
Bobby Bones
And Rookie of the year. I'm just going for memory here, but rookie of the year was Ted McMillan.
- [48:42]
Matt Castle
He had a great rookie year, dude.
- [48:43]
Bobby Bones
It was pretty good rookie year, though, when you look back, because there was Tet, there was Shock who came on late. Ish. There was Jackson Dart.
- [48:51]
Matt Castle
Jackson Dart played well.
- [48:54]
Bobby Bones
So those were three. He started so strong.
- [49:00]
Matt Castle
He got injured, though, and then.
- [49:01]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, it was a tough, tough end of the year there.
- [49:03]
Matt Castle
Yeah.
- [49:04]
Bobby Bones
All right, let's go over. You mentioned him. What do you got? Oh, oh, okay. We lost our Internet. That's okay, though.
- [49:11]
Matt Castle
Does Rookie of the Year. What about Defensive rookie of the year.
- [49:16]
Bobby Bones
I don't think there's an offensive defensive rookie here, is there?
- [49:19]
Matt Castle
There should be. If you have a defensive player of the year and an offensive player of the year for league, you should have an offensive rookie of the year and a defensive rookie year.
- [49:27]
Bobby Bones
I hear you.
- [49:28]
Matt Castle
And tell me who the best special teams player was too.
- [49:31]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Kevin wants a best assistant quarterbacks coach as well. Yeah. All right, so.
- [49:37]
Matt Castle
Oh, Josh McDaniels won assistant of the year. Frable won.
- [49:40]
Bobby Bones
Oh, FRA1.
- [49:41]
Matt Castle
Coach of the coach of the year. Incredible.
- [49:43]
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
- [49:43]
Matt Castle
How about the rookie?
- [49:45]
Bobby Bones
Defensive rookie?
- [49:46]
Matt Castle
Yeah. Carson Schinger.
- [49:48]
Bobby Bones
Carson Swesinger.
- [49:49]
Vince Wilfork
Yep.
- [49:50]
Bobby Bones
The Brown linebacker.
- [49:52]
Matt Castle
Oh yeah. He was really for the rounds.
- [49:55]
Bobby Bones
Wow, I didn't know that.
- [49:56]
Matt Castle
How about the pronunciation for Mike versus Able on the coach of the year? Did you get catch any of that?
- [50:01]
Bobby Bones
Verbal?
- [50:01]
Matt Castle
Yeah, verbal like just so off and said it multiple times and I was like man, that's coach of the year. Just maybe you want to.
- [50:11]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, maybe they like maybe get it.
- [50:12]
Matt Castle
Ready, practice that a little bit or even put it on there. Like what is it phonetically speaking where you.
- [50:19]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, but because they can't tell her this is going to be the coach of the year.
- [50:22]
Matt Castle
No, but you can't give her like.
- [50:23]
Bobby Bones
The three that probably are going to win. Like here's who. Who possibly can win coach of the year.
- [50:28]
Matt Castle
There's four possible games. Like let's fire it up.
- [50:33]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, that's this guy. We're gonna go over now to two time super bowl champion, Vince Wilfort. Vince was a five time Pro Bowler named to the Patriots all decade team. He was a beast when he played. We talked about giving his friends and family super bowl tickets here. You love Vince.
- [50:47]
Matt Castle
Vince is the best man here.
- [50:49]
Bobby Bones
He is. They're great. Vince Wilfort. Vince Wilfork is here with us. You guys already know each other.
- [50:53]
Matt Castle
Oh man. Vince is the one of the all time greats to ever play his position. But I mean what five time pro baller?
- [51:02]
Vince Wilfork
Yeah.
- [51:03]
Matt Castle
You were two time super bowl champion all pro Patriots.
- [51:07]
Vince Wilfork
I don't know how many times I've done it though. I've. Yeah, I had those.
- [51:10]
Matt Castle
Come on. You went to a lot of acceptance ceremonies where you got to sit up there and give a little speech, babe. But I mean not only was he going to great player, but an incredible teammate, an incredible person. So happy to have you on, man.
- [51:21]
Vince Wilfork
I appreciate. Thank you guys for having me. Really appreciate it.
- [51:24]
Bobby Bones
How you feel about the team this year. Expectations weren't to be here, but they are here. So I mean that's something.
- [51:30]
Vince Wilfork
Yeah. Well, I was just telling Matt, I called it at the very beginning when everything, once we realized that Matt was coming in, I mean, Mike was coming in to be a head coach at New England Patriots. I knew. Yeah, I'm like. Because I played with Mike, right? And I played for Mike when he was in Houston as a coach and we had, we spent a lot of time talking about certain stuff. But I just remember Mike as a player, when Mike spoke as a player. When you on the field, you think you're listening to a coach, right?
- [51:55]
Matt Castle
That's right.
- [51:55]
Vince Wilfork
I'm thinking I'm listening to Bill Belichick or somebody off the staff. But he was my teammate. So I just understand like how much he knows football, his football iq and the one thing I really love about Mike, and this is why I tell people one of the best things I, I love about him, he's a great teacher. The way he teaches the game, the fundamentals, he get guys to understand it. And I think to be a great coach you have to be a great teacher. And I think he had both of those up under his belt. So it's not surprising to see us in this position this, this fast coming from where we came from last year. It's amazing to see. It's, it's what Drake May is doing his second year in as a quarterback. Man, you know, it's hard, it's unbelievable, right? And I think a lot of times people forget this is his only second year. So they don't give him as much grace as they need to as a second year player just because of the success he's had and how he, how he's looking as a veteran. But this is second year in the game. So for us to be back on this stage, this is where we need to be. This is where we know we'll be in. This is where the organization for the past two decades, you get, got used to seeing us there and it's good to see it back, especially with a new era of football players and a new head coach is heading in everything and new leadership on the team with Diggs and Milton Williams and all these new faces. It's good to see it doing in a different era. So it's patience 1, 100% for me. I'm looking forward to it and hopefully we can get it done one last time.
- [53:21]
Matt Castle
You won three Super Bowls, right? What part of this week did you think was the biggest grind in terms of getting, getting prepared for the week and also media, everything else. When did you really feel like, you zoned in and we were ready to go.
- [53:35]
Vince Wilfork
For me, it would. It would always be the Thursday, this Thursday right here. Right. Because we have two weeks to prepare.
- [53:42]
Matt Castle
Yeah.
- [53:43]
Vince Wilfork
And basically the second, you know, the first week you go out, you put out game plan, and then you come back the following week and kind of redo some stuff, take away some things, add a few things. But your game plan was your game plan, what you liked and what you put in that first week, you basically just repping it. You have little things here and there that you change. But this day, this Thursday, that's when I'm really like, okay, let me get my body ready. Let me get lock in. Let me focus. And because I have Thursday, I have Friday and Saturday, I have three days. And I'm laser focused in those days. And understanding everything is starting to come together. You know, the paths are off. You know, Thursday is getting your body back. So now you're saying, okay, I've been away for over two weeks, but now it's getting there. But I always took this day like it's go time.
- [54:28]
Bobby Bones
You hear the stories of, you're playing in a Super bowl, you got cousins and mom and friends, all who want tickets. You played in a bunch of Super Bowls. Did that get easier to provide tickets to the people that you loved?
- [54:39]
Vince Wilfork
Man, for me, it was very easy. It was a no.
- [54:42]
Matt Castle
It's just that simple because we used to be able to sell those tickets. Yeah.
- [54:47]
Vince Wilfork
To. And I remember when I first got drafted and we was talking about tickets and we was going to play the Dolphins, and they say, vince, well, I know you need about 20 tickets. How many tickets? I say two. They looked at me, I'm like, I don't know. I don't. Ain't nobody getting no tickets. Like, no, it's not for the happen. Like, so early in my career, I established that early on, don't call for tickets. I'm not buying. If I make it to the super weird, I'm not going to do this. This. I'm gonna get certain amount of tickets for people that I know that need them, and that was it. But I was always one of them. I just. I just like football. Like all this other stuff, y' all handle that. Y' all do what y' all want to do. I'm a football player. I don't got time to deal with tickets. Don't call me, don't. If it ain't about football. Don't bother me, you know, my teammates, my teammates and. But outside of my teammates, in my locker Room. I had my core family members that I talked to daily. And other than that, my football team was my family. So I didn't need tickets for my football family.
- [55:44]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, they got them.
- [55:45]
Vince Wilfork
They already got.
- [55:46]
Justin Reed
They got them.
- [55:47]
Matt Castle
Talk to me about when you first came in your rookie year. You guys won the super bowl, right? But you had an incredible room. You had Ty Warren, Richard Seymour, Willie.
- [55:54]
Vince Wilfork
McGinnis, Roosevelt, Cole, Roman, FIFA, Teddy Brew, Johnson, Tyler.
- [56:02]
Matt Castle
So who was most impactful for you when you first came into the league? And amongst them, that group of greats, Patriot greats and football greats.
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Advertisement Voice
Who.
- [56:11]
Matt Castle
Who had the most impact?
- [56:12]
Vince Wilfork
It was Will. It was Willie McGinnis. Willie McGinnis was definitely the one, because I remember watching Willie and Slay line up opposite ends as I watched the Patriots growing up. So Willie McGinnis was one of them. And Rodney Harrison, Ty Law, Teddy, Brucey, those guys. Seymour was four years in when I got in there, and I, I, I love Ty. Ty Warren was, is my guy.
- [56:39]
Matt Castle
Yeah.
- [56:39]
Vince Wilfork
The most underrated guy that I ever played with. I think so. Underrated. But he was probably like the meat and potatoes of that defensive line, honestly. But a lot of, A lot of credit give is given to me and Seymour. But Ty, I mean, he was just that one guy that can do anything. You could put him anywhere. He was durable. He was like a mule man. Like, get it done stuff. Strong, great teammate, Southern boy. I loved him. So it was easy for me to come in and learn from these guys and have a defense the way we had with so much leadership on it. And I'm coming from the University of Miami, and I'm coming from guys with leadership as well. We won. We know how to win. So it wasn't a big difference, honestly, of transitioning from college to pros. It wasn't. Because I've seen it. I've been in it. I played fast. I played with some great guys. I mean, just coming to New England, you know, now I'm in the NFL playing for a Bill Belichick team that just coming off a Super bowl win against Carolina down in Houston.
- [57:40]
Matt Castle
Yeah.
- [57:41]
Vince Wilfork
And then Ted Washington, the best nose tacker ever, to get rid of Ted and draft me.
- [57:45]
Matt Castle
Yeah.
- [57:46]
Vince Wilfork
So now it's like, oh, my gosh, Ted Washington. Now he's going. Now I'm coming in like. Like, I don't even know how to play nose tackle. Right. So a lot of people have to understand. I had to learn the game of nose tackle because it's totally different than a defensive tackle. It's a totally different game. So I had to learn how to build nose tackle. And a lot of credit go to Bill and Romeo just believing in me enough to turn me into a nose tackle to be real efficient at this level. Because once I learned that they can do so many multiple things because my background was a one gapper, right? So I can do anything, I can play anywhere across the ball and stuff. And that's why like my year four, they must, they started moving me around from defensive end and three technique left and right. Then we started getting into the game planning of me and all that. And I think that's when my game really took off. Once they, once I proved to them I know this defense is inside and out, I can understand the offensive scheme and my football IQ is what it was. I think that's when Bill really trusted me to line up at defensive end or line up at the three technique or go play on this side on these certain plays because he knew I can do it. So a lot of credit go to my coaches with just believing in me, but also putting in the work and showing and proving it to him that I can do it.
- [58:58]
Bobby Bones
What are you doing with the USO?
- [59:00]
Vince Wilfork
USO. So I got it. I've been on three tours with the USO. I've been in the last to 11 countries in the past three years. And what USO stands for is unbelievable. They kind of bridged that gap between the military, family and the military, because you have guys that haven't seen family in years. You know, you have 18, 19, 20 year olds away from home in Poland, Romania, Sicily, you know, all these places that they're not used to, so it's foreign to them, but they get, they go there to work to make sure that we're safe, protect our freedom. The sacrifices, the dedication they make daily for us to do what we need to do. For me to be who I became as a football player, for you guys to sit here and do this and talk, it's all because of them, you know, because at night when we're asleep and having these nice dreams, they're up, you know, they're watching everything they're making, they're intercepting things, they're bombs, you name it. They are 24, 7, 365. They don't stop. And I think we need, the least we can do is show our support and love and let them know how much we love and support them and just cherish everything they do for us, to keep us safe. And the USO is a great, great organization that provides that for Them and just to be able to see these kids faces when they see me and I walk in with my super bowl rings, they turn into little kids. Right. And then you have their lieutenants and their colonels. Like we haven't seen him smiling in over a year. And you know, I come in here and I get a smile out of them. And it's just the camaraderie. It's just like football. You know how it is in the locker room when you're around your people, you feel safe. We can have conversations and we can laugh, we could talk, we can cry. It's no different with those guys. You know, they have what they have. But now when you start bringing in celebrities and guys coming, you know, like we just, we. This year we did see Kuwait. We was in Jordan, we was in Djibouti in Africa. That's where we were just now. Right. So to go way over there. Yeah. And to have patriot flags and just represent the U.S. you know, it was Seattle fans, you name it. Football, they're big football fan. They're Americans. But they're in these locations just so to make sure that we're safe. And it brings such joy to me when I leave them. And then I get home and then now I have a parent emailing me saying you met my son and sending me a picture. I can't explain to you how much that meant for me and my family. He still talk like it's amazing just to get that type of feedback and what it does, it carries a lot. A long way. It goes a long way. If you believe it or not, we have guys that's been in the military. The president of the USO, he been in there for 30, 30 plus years. He still remember those USO days, people coming around. He still remember that you talk for 30, 40 years. So this is something that lasts with them forever. They'll never forget. And I'm glad I can be a part of it. So the more we can show them the support of what they do for us on a daily basis basis, the more I love it.
- [62:09]
Bobby Bones
Vince, we appreciate the time, man.
- [62:10]
Vince Wilfork
All right. Thank you guys.
- [62:11]
Bobby Bones
Thank you so much, man.
- [62:12]
Matt Castle
Right there.
- [62:14]
Vince Wilfork
Love you.
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Bobby Bones
Are we gonna go now? And this is us talking to Justin Reed, which I asked him, you know, here about kicking. Yeah, well he lit up. He's like, I won't even say what he said. We'll just get to here.
- [65:06]
Matt Castle
So fired up for that segment.
- [65:08]
Bobby Bones
Here is NFL safety Justin Reed who now plays for the Saints he's won two Super Bowls for the Chiefs, he played for the Texans, and now he's in New Orleans, where he grew up. Here he is the great Justin Reed.
- [65:18]
Matt Castle
Justin Reed. I mean, this is one of the top safeties in the league. Versatile. He's been with Houston, Kansas City. Now you're back home in New Orleans. Tell me what that experience has been like, being back home in New Orleans.
- [65:30]
Justin Reed
Yeah, man, it's a full circle moment. It's a full circle moment to go and play for the team that I grew up watching. I've been asked a ton about what I think about Drew's hall of Fame, coming to the hall of Fame. There's like, man, like, growing up watching that guy and how he inspired the whole state and really made kids like me back in, you know, the early 2000s, like, fall in love with. With football and watching the Saints and now have an opportunity to go. Go back and pour into the Saints program and try, you know, do that for the next little kid that's growing up right now. It's the coolest feeling ever, man. There's no fan base in the world like the Saints fan base. They're crazy. And they'll let you know about it.
- [66:06]
Bobby Bones
Was it your goal to get home? Like, did you. Did you know that was going to be an option to go?
- [66:10]
Justin Reed
No, I didn't. I didn't. I never. I. That never came across my mind. And then when I was in free agency and I got the call, like, it was in that moment that was like, wow, this is actually pretty cool. Like, I never thought that I would go home and play for the Saints. That, you know, I mean, you just don't think about it. And the opportunity came up and I just, you know, wanted to grab it.
- [66:28]
Matt Castle
I got a question. Being from Louisiana, how did you end up at Stanford? Yeah, I mean, what in the hell?
- [66:34]
Justin Reed
Yeah, you know, I kind of ask myself that sometimes, too. There's a couple of things that definitely help, though, because I was so close to going to lsu. It's like, when I didn't sign at lsu, being a kid from Louisiana, it was like. It's like I betrayed the state. I was like, what do you mean? I want to go to OSU. But my older brother was playing for the 49ers at the time, right down the street. And my mom was travel nursing. She'd work two weeks and then come home two weeks, and she was travel nursing in Oakland. So there was already a little pod out here in the Bay Area. You know, it just made the transition a little easier.
- [67:06]
Bobby Bones
Whenever you're getting ready for the Super Bowl.
- [67:08]
Rob Gronkowski
You got.
- [67:08]
Bobby Bones
You got two, right?
- [67:09]
Vince Wilfork
Right.
- [67:09]
Bobby Bones
Got two, you got two. Were each of those experiences different?
- [67:13]
Justin Reed
The first one, yes and no. So the first one was like your first Super Bowl. You're like, trying to get ready for it. Like, I, I don't think that I had fun during the week. You know what I mean? Like, I was so locked in on, like, I just want to make sure I'm ready to go and perform and play well and etc. Etc. But then the second and third one, like, I allow myself to actually enjoy the moment so much more and had so much more fun that second and third super bowl, especially the third one being in New Orleans.
- [67:41]
Matt Castle
Right.
- [67:41]
Justin Reed
You know, that was an expensive ticket. I played that game for free, getting all the tickets for the family. But it's a surreal moment and I pray those guys that are in it right now are enjoying it right now.
- [67:52]
Vince Wilfork
Yeah.
- [67:53]
Matt Castle
I mean, talk to me about this week in general in terms of the preparation. What goes into it? What do you think the biggest challenges of this week, getting ready for this.
- [68:01]
Justin Reed
Game, it's just managing distractions. Like, there's every distraction in the world that you can have. You know what I mean? Everyone's pulling on your. On your coattail, trying to drag you in different directions. And it's like, hey, you know, you got to do a little bit of it. But at the end of the day, keep the main thing, the main thing about why we're all here to play and then having a plan for managing your excitement on game day, that's a real thing. Like young guys, it's their first time playing. We had a whole 20 minute meeting on just managing your energy for a Super bowl. Because most of the time you get out, you do your warm up, you go back inside, you come on the field, you're there for 10 minutes and then it's kickoff. Super bowl, you come out on the field and it's 45 minutes before you do kickoff, and you got to, like, have a plan to not get yourself too jacked up or emotionally drained. And then you have a 35 minute halftime, right? You got to have a plan there. So it's like managing all the extra TV timeouts, just staying cool, calm and collected and just being ready for the moment. Because that game is gonna, it's gonna be a four and a half, five hour game spectacle, you know what I mean? So you got to be ready to last the entire time.
- [69:04]
Bobby Bones
Is there a part in the game where it goes from, holy crap, we're in the super bowl to okay, now this just feels like a real game. Like, is there a point where's contact?
- [69:13]
Justin Reed
You know, I mean, up until you get that, I tell guys all the time, hey, first play of the game, you usually for offenses, it's a run player, it's a boot anyway. But first play of the game, you just got to run into somebody as.
- [69:22]
Vince Wilfork
Hard as you can, man, because then.
- [69:23]
Justin Reed
They'Ll just bring you. They'll bring you back down. And now you're like back to yourself and you're ready to just go out there and play as a safety.
- [69:29]
Matt Castle
Obviously you have to know so many different things from route recognition to run game and everything. Who was a player, a coach that was most impactful and influential for you, that made you grow as a player in the NFL?
- [69:44]
Justin Reed
Yeah, man, that's gotta. I gotta go back to my guy Spags, man. Spags challenged me in so many different ways to be versatile. I mean, all the COVID zeros, all the coverage adjustments, you really challenge, like the mental side of the game. Because we had, we had two, three checks for every call based on what the offense was doing. We had master checks versus certain formations. We had a call that would check to a version of too high or one high, depending on if the offense was in a certain formation and if they motion, then we checked. If they checked, then we checked. You know what I mean? So that part of the game, that chess match in the game was really stimulating and then, like, it really brought out your best, you know what I mean, to bring on your A game and really be a complete safety, complete db. For me, it was fun times because I had the liberty to send the corner. Like, if I had a blitz, I could choose to give my blitz to the corner. And now I'm playing corner quarterback, you.
- [70:34]
Vince Wilfork
Know what I mean?
- [70:34]
Matt Castle
So did you want to do that, though? Sometimes Maybe I don't want to because I could blitz and miss.
- [70:39]
Justin Reed
Yeah.
- [70:39]
Matt Castle
But if I miss, I know, on the corner.
- [70:41]
Justin Reed
Yeah, yeah, it is that way. But usually if I had a cut split and I was like, okay, I'm going to go show. Like, I like to get creative. I'm gonna go show all the way in the post knowing I have this guy, man coverage, because I know if he comes scot free on the cut split X off the side, yeah, it's going to be a sack. Like, I'm not gonna have this guy. The only, the only route he's going to have time to do is a quick out. So as soon as the ball snap, I'm just gonna run straight to that quick out, you know what I mean? It'll either be a pass breakup or, or a tackle on the sideline.
- [71:06]
Matt Castle
Yeah.
- [71:07]
Bobby Bones
You think you could have kicked?
- [71:08]
Justin Reed
Absolutely. No, not, Not a doubt in my mind. I still can't.
- [71:13]
Matt Castle
Did you see the Confidence 100?
- [71:18]
Justin Reed
I talked to our specialist coordinator, Phil, three days ago. I was like, hey Phil, these new kickoff rules, you know, I mean, kind of made for it. Kind of made for it. Kick it down there, make a tackle.
- [71:31]
Matt Castle
DBs like to get chippy. Who's the best trash talker from the offensive side of the ball? When you're going up as an opponent where you'd be like, dude, that guy's not only funny, but he, he's. He's got something.
- [71:40]
Justin Reed
Kelsey Kelsey talks the most trash, bro. I know it from being on both sides of the.
- [71:44]
Vince Wilfork
Of the ball.
- [71:45]
Justin Reed
Kelsey talks a ton of trash. Who are some other guys that, that are just known trash talkers? Jamar talks some trash. Jamar Chase, he talks some trash here and there. Jetta doesn't really talk a lot of trash. He's like a quiet assassin type. You know, he kind of keeps it going, but they, they definitely have some cats out there. A lot of the tight ends, honestly. The tight end. Yeah, you know a lot of the tight ends.
- [72:08]
Bobby Bones
Who's next level quick as a receiver? Cuz everybody's quick. And who's next level large as a receiver. That's like, oh, it's different.
- [72:16]
Justin Reed
Okay, I'll give you a wide receiver and I give you a titan. Who is the. With the Steelers tight end. His name is for like this dude is massive, dude. He's like, oh, you're talking about the. Oh, dude, homeboy is big.
- [72:33]
Matt Castle
No, no, no, no. He's like 285 pounds.
- [72:37]
Justin Reed
That dude is huge.
- [72:38]
Matt Castle
Yeah, I'm doing it.
- [72:40]
Justin Reed
Receivers are just like freaking ridiculous if somebody's that big. Do you try nothing like just, just massive. Some wide receivers that's just taller than what I thought like tet with the Panthers. Bigger guy than what you think he is. Next level, quick, just jitterbug types. Tank Dell, whenever he was healthy, hopefully he comes back. I like that guy. I like watching him play. He was a really quick guy. I mean, yeah, man, there's a handful.
- [73:10]
Matt Castle
Of them out there. What's one thing that you would teach a rookie a non football skill that they would need to survive in the NFL? Whether it's media training or film study or something like that that it's really not actual football.
- [73:25]
Justin Reed
Yeah, no. The film study part. The film study part. You can slow the game down so much if you just have the slightest clue of what's about to happen. You know what I mean? Or even if, even if you could just eliminate things from. Like you're not guarding ghosts, you know what I mean? Like, you see a certain formation over and over again, like for my career path from where I started as a rookie. So, you know, as you old, you see the same plays, you see the same coordinators. Like, I now have a book on the coordinators. Like I have a book on the offensive coordinators. Like, okay, I played this guy when he was coaching for the Buccaneers. So I know it's going to be the same same plays. And I know that, hey, this wide receiver was. Who this wide receiver was when he was coaching with this program. You know, like when you. When you can do that and you can slow the game down, it just allows you to make so many more plays, play so much faster to where you're not just out there playing seven on seven football and you know what I mean?
- [74:17]
Bobby Bones
Darnell Washington, by the way.
- [74:18]
Justin Reed
Darnell Washington.
- [74:19]
Bobby Bones
Wow.
- [74:20]
Matt Castle
Good pull. This guy's brain.
- [74:22]
Justin Reed
Yeah, it was working. It was working back there.
- [74:24]
Vince Wilfork
You saw him.
- [74:25]
Bobby Bones
I was tapped into Firemuth and then it wasn't fire. Really great talking with you. Yeah, thanks. People love you. I mean, obviously when you saw Castle, you guys embraced quickly.
- [74:33]
Matt Castle
I mean, look at that smile. He's got everything. Charisma, intelligence, can play ball. I mean, and he obviously can kick.
- [74:39]
Vince Wilfork
Yeah.
- [74:39]
Matt Castle
So.
- [74:40]
Bobby Bones
Well, I asked him that. He was like, yes, I can. I want to.
- [74:44]
Justin Reed
I legit want to, bro. Like, I want to.
- [74:46]
Matt Castle
That would be bad.
- [74:48]
Bobby Bones
We appreciate you, Justin. Thank you.
- [74:49]
Justin Reed
Appreciate you guys.
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Bobby Bones
All right, that's it from this version of the Super Bowl. Go ahead. Your thoughts on the game. There's not a lot of time time.
- [77:08]
Matt Castle
I think it's going to be an incredible game. I think it's going to be a defensive battle, to be honest with you.
- [77:12]
Bobby Bones
Boring. Boring. We didn't even know there was a rookie defensive player of the year is how much that sounds exciting, but it.
- [77:18]
Matt Castle
Is going to be a defensive battle. I think Patriots are playing probably they had the best defensive performance in the playoffs thus far and then Seattle Seahawks obviously they bring it and it's going to be I think it's going to come down to the offensive line for New England if they can give Drake May enough time and block because they've struggled to pass, protect and protect him throughout the playoffs. Now they played three juggernauts of defensive units, but this is another one up front that if you don't control the line of scrimmage, it's going to be a long day.
- [77:48]
Bobby Bones
Who do you want to win? Who do you think will win?
- [77:50]
Matt Castle
I want the New England Patriots to win. It's hard for me to say that Seattle, the way that they've played throughout the playoffs and I, I also think that the most complete team won't win the game.
- [78:02]
Bobby Bones
I Want the Patriots to win. I've got Patriot fans in my life, obviously, two of them that do this show with me. And we have money, money on that game.
- [78:11]
Matt Castle
Yeah, we do. We're making a bet, me and you.
- [78:14]
Bobby Bones
No, I'm not betting.
- [78:14]
Matt Castle
Yeah, you're taking Seattle.
- [78:16]
Bobby Bones
Okay, that's fine if you want me.
- [78:18]
Matt Castle
To, but you're giving me points.
- [78:19]
Bobby Bones
See?
- [78:19]
Vince Wilfork
Okay.
- [78:20]
Matt Castle
So here we go.
- [78:22]
Bobby Bones
So I would like to see the Patriots win. I do love the Sam Darnold story, though.
- [78:28]
Matt Castle
It's an incredible story.
- [78:29]
Bobby Bones
Like, that's the. And I think Seattle will win. But that's easy to say, right? That's. Everyone thinks. Most people think Seattle will win. That's why they're the favorite. But I think the one thing that I would find enjoyment in if Seattle wins is the fact that I love Sam Darnold's story. I don't know him as a person, really know nothing about him except that he shows up, he's got a good attitude, doesn't talk a lot. Apparently he's a pretty quiet guy in the locker room, like, very much. I just show up and do the work kind of guy business. Yeah. But is also a guy who. It just never went well. He never landed in a place that was conducive to success. So he got written off.
- [79:04]
Matt Castle
Yeah. Like you do in this league.
- [79:06]
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
- [79:06]
Matt Castle
It's a win now league, and if you don't win, you get shipped off. And they. They say, hey, you're not good enough. And then you get to the right situation and you get an opportunity to prove yourself, and of a sudden something like this happens.
- [79:18]
Bobby Bones
He didn't win with the Jets. All right. He must suck. He didn't win with the Panthers.
- [79:22]
Matt Castle
Actually, he was 4 and 2 at the end of the year with the Panthers, but they were probably six and whatever in the season.
- [79:29]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. And he was hurt, too.
- [79:31]
Matt Castle
Yeah, he got hurt.
- [79:32]
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
- [79:33]
Matt Castle
Matt Rule was on his last year.
- [79:34]
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
- [79:35]
Matt Castle
Didn't really work out.
- [79:36]
Bobby Bones
Tough run. Yeah.
- [79:37]
Matt Castle
Yeah. They got traded Baker Mayfield away, too.
- [79:40]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. So. And then he goes and he's a backup up in San Francisco.
- [79:43]
Matt Castle
Yep.
- [79:44]
Bobby Bones
And then he. And then he wins in Minnesota. But he's on a. His contract was one year.
- [79:50]
Vince Wilfork
Yeah.
- [79:50]
Matt Castle
But you know the question surround, can he win a big game? God.
- [79:54]
Bobby Bones
Crazy.
- [79:54]
Matt Castle
You know, you can't have one bad game in this league or you're screwed.
- [79:57]
Bobby Bones
I just hope. Because the league likes to see things happen before they commit to it. Look, right. When they're success at anything, the league then can go, hey, we can bet on this person. Or we can do this scheme. We can hire this coach because they've had success. What I hope to see is other quarterbacks that have been put in places not conducive to winning get other opportunities.
- [80:18]
Matt Castle
Yes.
- [80:18]
Bobby Bones
Because of what Sam Darnold's been able to show. Even if they don't win this game.
- [80:22]
Matt Castle
Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, Geno Smith, in recent memory.
- [80:25]
Bobby Bones
Just let's eliminate Geno from that now, huh? I think we should drop the Geno. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [80:30]
Justin Reed
Maybe.
- [80:30]
Matt Castle
Maybe a few years back.
- [80:31]
Bobby Bones
He made his money.
- [80:32]
Matt Castle
Phenomenal. Phenomenal. Phenomenal story, though.
- [80:34]
Bobby Bones
Yes, agree. Like people that just did the work.
- [80:37]
Matt Castle
Yeah.
- [80:38]
Bobby Bones
And took advantage of the opportunity when they got it.
- [80:41]
Matt Castle
Exactly.
- [80:41]
Bobby Bones
So, yeah, same with you. I think Seattle will win. I would like to see New England win, and we'll see what happens. But we appreciate you guys and we will see you guys next week. Hope you have a good Super Bowl. And since we work for the NFL, we can say that word. You guys know that, right?
- [80:55]
Matt Castle
Way to play Super Bowl.
- [80:57]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, we can say it. And also you can say it if you're not selling something.
- [81:02]
Matt Castle
We're not allowed. Other people aren't allowed to say Super Bowl.
- [81:05]
Justin Reed
No.
- [81:05]
Bobby Bones
If you're talking about any sort of brand or something, you have to say the big Game. Really?
- [81:10]
Matt Castle
Yeah. I'm glad I worked for the NFL because I would have messed that up.
- [81:13]
Bobby Bones
I never would have referred to it.
- [81:14]
Matt Castle
As the big game.
- [81:15]
Bobby Bones
Right. But if you see a billboard, it's like the Big Game, also by Nabisco, but they don't have. They didn't pay for that. Like, super bowl is a brand, basically. So, yeah, I hope you guys have a good big game and.
- [81:27]
Matt Castle
Go get him.
- [81:27]
Bobby Bones
I'm gonna hedge my bets in case.
- [81:28]
Matt Castle
We get my face on that big game.
- [81:30]
Bobby Bones
And we will see you guys next week. All right, bye, everybody. Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is a production of the NFL and iHeart podcasts. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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