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Bobby Bones
to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is a production of the NFL and iHeart podcasts.
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We got lots to say
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Bobby Bones
we got
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lots to say
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Jeremy Macklin
we're glad you're here
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and we hope you stay Cause we
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Bobby Bones
got lots to say.
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Bobby Bones
Here's Bobby and Matt. Hey, everybody. Welcome. And happy birthday to my wife. It is not my wife's birthday, but last night I. We were laying in the bed, she was feeding the baby. And I get a text from Matt. He's like, hey, tell your wife happy birthday. You're a thoughtful guy.
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Matt Castle
I mean, you're trying to be thoughtful.
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Bobby Bones
You were wrong. I mean, you're wrong, like, three.
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Matt Castle
I was wrong. Way wrong.
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Bobby Bones
And I thought I was missing something, some kind of joke. And I said, kayla, did you say anywhere was your birthday? She was like, no, birthday's in January. I said, okay. She goes, why? I said, because Castle's like, tell Caitlyn happy birthday. She goes, that's very sweet. Any birthday. And so I replied back, and I said, no, not her birthday. How did you hear that? How did your mom tell you it was my wife's birthday?
- [03:27]
Matt Castle
So I got a text message. I'm dropping off the kids, and it's from my mom. And she had done the voice, right, the voice text. So it came out cluttered and unreadable. But I made out maybe it was something. Bobby Bones, wife birthday. Just a heads up type deal, like
- [03:47]
Bobby Bones
a Mother's Day something.
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Matt Castle
I have no idea. So she. So she sends us. And I had it on my. So then I wrote it down, making sure that I send well wishes and happy birthday, trying to be the nice guy. I sent it over, and you send it back, and you're like, dude, it's in January. Like, what are you talking about? And so I'm like, oh, my God. I was like, never trusting my mom again. This, that, and the other.
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Bobby Bones
Where would your mom have even seen that?
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Matt Castle
Like, what if she said, came up on our feed? So after. After that exchange that we had where I'm sitting there going, well, and then I thought, maybe it's your birthday. Look it up. Not. Not your birthday either.
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Bobby Bones
A few weeks ago.
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Matt Castle
Few weeks ago. But a few weeks ago is a few weeks ago. Three months ago is a whole nother thing. And she goes, there was something that came up on my feed, and Caitlin was wishing Bobby happy Birthday or something. So she meant to say that it was your birthday. So I was like, mom, you know that sometimes on Instagram these feeds will roll back right in time.
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Bobby Bones
It wasn't a chronological feed.
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Matt Castle
It wasn't a chronological feed. So it wasn't the most recent feed. So she, being a good mother, texts me, hey, make sure that you know that it's Bobby. I think she meant to say it was your birthday, not your wife's. And through that whole text chain, I just sent the text being confident that it was. But just so you know, I accept
- [05:06]
Bobby Bones
the birthday wishes from your mom. Three weeks late. That is tricky sometimes, though, because I'll see you. Arkansas just signed a new basketball recruit. And I'm like, oh, let's go. Who is it today? But I already. I was like, I already saw that one like a month ago. And it's literally from a month ago.
- [05:20]
Matt Castle
Right, exactly. So it was just misunderstanding prior my. My side. I should have done maybe a little bit more research to make sure that I'm sending it on the right date. But I just want to be a nice guy, you know, want to reach out, make sure people feel special on their special day. That's the type of person I am.
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Bobby Bones
That is a person you are. But I think about me getting fooled. I think at number three, it's when the feed is not chronological, obviously. And sometimes I'll be date confused. I think at number two, a really good AI video.
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Matt Castle
Oh.
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Bobby Bones
Can make me second guess. It's hard to fool me because I use a lot of AI to create myself, but a really good one will have me questioning or going to, like, search for a second source. So that's the second way I get fooled.
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Matt Castle
The AI stuff messes with me. I'll send videos to my wife. Check this video out. Could be of a flood of a town. It could be of a hippo, a dinosaur, dude, the hippo. And then the leopards throwing up over here. I was like, gosh, this is awesome. Look at Mother Nature protecting hippos. I mean, it's some of those. And I'll just send it off. And she's like, matt, that's AI. I was like, okay. Well, I thought it was still pretty cool. They do some amazing stuff with AI these days.
- [06:26]
Bobby Bones
We were talking about before we started recording that, we were talking about bunkers because we had tornadoes near us last night. And so the conversation was, you know, storm, tornado, and shelters. And, you know, in Tennessee, there are no basements.
- [06:42]
Matt Castle
Right.
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Bobby Bones
It's crazy because the ground is so hard, so. So rocky. So in other places I've lived, there have been basements.
- [06:47]
Matt Castle
Yeah. When I was in Kansas City, everybody had a basement, deservedly so.
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Bobby Bones
So there's no basement. It's hard to get underground for any sort of tornado. And I had seen these cool videos because I would love a bunker. That would be like, the thing if it was.
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Matt Castle
I think that you spend more time in a bunker than you do actually do your house. Even on A sunny day, probably.
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Bobby Bones
So. Well, now, if I didn't have a bunker, Wife and a kid. Absolutely. Because before I met my wife, I never came out of my room.
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Matt Castle
Yeah, you're like, I'm good.
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Bobby Bones
Like, I can finally afford it. Like a nice house. I never left my room. But they have these videos where they'll dig this massive hole with a backhoe and they'll take and drop an airplane, an old airplane that's no longer being used in the hole. Then they'll cover it up, but that airplane is used as a bunker.
- [07:25]
Matt Castle
Those are sick. Those are pretty sick. I mean, all those ones that they generate, even the AI Ones, like you said, they come and dig this massive hole, and then they're laying these concrete for the. It's almost like a tunnel and then a walkway, and then they've got their food source. And I'm sitting there going, man, that is very elaborate. Like somebody.
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Bobby Bones
How much does that cost?
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Matt Castle
Yeah, it looked like the Pentagon did. I was like, what in the hell?
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Bobby Bones
Number one way I get fooled is probably NBA Sentinel. Do you guys get Sentinel fold.
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Matt Castle
Yeah. What's that?
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Bobby Bones
So I. I believe the real Twitter account is NBA Central, but Central is one letter off. And it's all like, really, things that didn't happen. Parodies. And sometimes because that one letter is off, it gets reported as true.
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Matt Castle
Right, right. They're looking at going, oh, yeah, this has got to be true. It's NBA Central, because.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah, and it's. It's literally Central, though. So it's NBA Central. It's a. Obviously a parody account, but people. Again, it looks so real that people start reporting it as real. So that's probably where I get fooled the most, because I don't see the one letter in Central and Central. So, yeah, here we are.
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Matt Castle
Here we are. I don't get. I just take everything for what it's worth, and then if somebody tells me it's fake, I'm like, all right, that's great. So I'm an idiot. Kind of like a birthday.
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Bobby Bones
Like one I pulled up. Jalen Durham was reportedly playing through his ex on his mind, per Chris B. Haynes, Crispy. So it's. It's a picture of him instead of the injury. It's like he's playing. Currently playing through his ex on his mind. So there's just a lot of. There's a lot.
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Matt Castle
So clever.
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Bobby Bones
If you get settled, that means you got fooled. That's kind of that terminology.
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Jeremy Macklin
So, yeah.
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Bobby Bones
What's. Hey, let me ask you a question. Whenever you were called whenever so you were drafted where?
- [09:14]
Matt Castle
Seventh round.
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Bobby Bones
When you got a call, who called you?
- [09:17]
Matt Castle
So the first person that called me was, I got on the phone with Coach. Actually it was Bears, Bears versus his assistant, like his main right hand guy.
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Bobby Bones
Belichick's assistant.
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Matt Castle
Belichick's assistant, and said, hey, Matt, we've. I've got Coach Belichick here. And I was like, what? Like, I thought it was a joke and said, hey, hey, Matt, Coach Belichick here. I just want to tell you, congratulations. You're going to be a New England Patriot. We're drafting you next in the NFL draft. And I was like, are you kidding me right now? Because, I mean, my chances of getting drafted were pretty slim. Not starting a game in college at the quarterback position. My junior year, I was playing tight end, for God's sakes, and blocking on special teams. So I was just trying to hope to get in the camp. But the fact the New England Patriots were just coming off their third super bowl in four years, and I get a call from Coach Belichick, which I hadn't had a private workout. They hadn't come out and sat me down or anything like that. Not. And not to say that there was a lot of teams that did that. There's probably five or six teams that I actually did have a private workout for. But he calls, he says that, welcome to the New England Patriots. And I just. My heart just lit up. What joy did. I mean, there's no better feeling when there's so much uncertainty, especially because I was getting to the stage of, okay, I got to make a serious life decision in free agency here of a good fit. Somebody might give me an opportunity. But they took all that guesswork out because they went ahead and drafted me. And so I was. I went in, they said, please hold because Nancy Meyer is going to get on the phone. She's going to tell you. She's going to tell you what, what we're going to do here. And when the rookie minicamp is and this, that and the other. And I was just like, fired up. So I went in. Lauren, my wife, she was my girlfriend at the time, standing up, sitting there, opening something, reading it. I said, look at the board. She's like, you haven't come up, that. You haven't come up yet. And I was like, watch the board. And then the ticker came across, and that was the coolest thing ever. Like, the ticker. Matt Castle, QB, know the commentators had no idea. Matt Castle's thrown 32 passes. And I don't really Know, we don't really have a. Any draft composition for this guy. Don't really. Couldn't really tell you anything about him, like, haven't really seen him in a game. So it was wild.
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Bobby Bones
Did you expect your phone to ring? Did you hope your phone would ring?
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Jeremy Macklin
Which.
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Bobby Bones
Which was it?
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Matt Castle
I didn't expect it. I got. I was already fielding calls because we're getting later in the seventh round, mid. Mid seventh round. I was already fielding calls from a. I did workouts with, talking about coming in as a potential free agent. It was Tennessee, it was Cincinnati, it was San Diego, the Raiders. At the time, I think there was maybe one other. And so that was a decision that I had to make pretty abruptly after, so. Because they call and they want to get you in as a free agent and do all that stuff. So there was no expectation. Now, I did get a call from Scott Pioli the morning of the draft that, that day, on the final day of the draft. And I saw, I think it was a 508 area code, which is New England. And I pick it up and it's Scott Pioli saying, hey, Matt, we really like you, just want to let you know, if we do take a quarterback late, we're going to take you, but if not, we'd love to consider for you to consider us in free agency. And so I was like, wow, that's pretty profound that the GM of the New England Patriots actually called me to say they might. So I was, I was hopeful, but at the end of the day, realistically, I thought, okay, this was just a phone call to let me know that they're very interested and want to potentially bring me in as a free agent.
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Bobby Bones
Were you getting other calls, though, from those teams to where you didn't know if they were going to say, hey, we want you to be a free agent or we're going to draft you.
- [12:58]
Matt Castle
I mean, I was potentially hopeful that that might happen because there's a few teams on that list that I just mentioned.
- [13:03]
Bobby Bones
But if they call. Well, you like. I don't know if they're going to call it, maybe draft me or free agent.
- [13:07]
Matt Castle
You're sitting there going, oh, free.
- [13:10]
Bobby Bones
Oh, yeah, right.
- [13:11]
Matt Castle
It's like that build up, like maybe they're calling to maybe take me late, right? And then all of a sudden you're sitting there going, oh, okay, you want me to come in as free. Thank you so much for calling. And then it's the waiting game. And then all of a sudden New England called, and I thought it might be something similar But New England was, I think they were up next or the pick after. So that's when I was like again, hopeful. And then it hit and I was like, wow.
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Bobby Bones
Where do you think if you had to have been a free agent based on where you were in your life at that point, where do you think you would have ended up?
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Matt Castle
Proximity to home, probably San Diego.
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Bobby Bones
And who was there at the time?
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Matt Castle
Rivers.
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Bobby Bones
Breeze?
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Matt Castle
I think that was Rivers. Rivers and Breeze were there, but Breeze was. Breeze and Rivers were both there. But again, free agent guy, like you're just trying to pick it, you know you're not going in to compete for a starting position. But you knew at some point the dam was going to break between Breeze and Rivers because they drafted Rivers so high that they were going to move Breeze somewhere or something was going to happen. And so I felt like maybe I can work myself into a backup role there.
- [14:18]
Bobby Bones
So by the time you guys hear this, this is going to have been news for a half a day, maybe even a day. But not only did we hear, I think yesterday that Diego Pavia was going to go to rookie minicamp, but now the Ravens are signing former Vanderbilt quarterback Diego Pavia.
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Matt Castle
Let's go, Diego.
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Bobby Bones
To a three year deal. Pavia is supposed to try out this weekend, but the Ravens sign him in advance.
- [14:40]
Matt Castle
Sign him to a three year deal?
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Bobby Bones
Yeah. And I don't know exactly what that means because there are no details. Right, Meaning three years. But you can cut him at any time, right? Three years. Like what's the signing bonus? Like that's the guaranteed money that he's going to make for sure. But it's interesting that they've kind of changed because that's not even like free agent. We're offering him a deal right now.
- [15:01]
Matt Castle
Right. And that's an incredible deal for somebody that's going into free agency. Sometimes you have your like preferred free agents that maybe for some reason dropped in the draft, maybe had an injury, something like that, that they will sign guys to two, two year. I've maybe three year deals, but that's few and far between. Most of these guys are coming in. We'll sign a rookie contract, but it's year to year and it's probably similar for Diego. I'm sure there's no guarantees in this type of contract. The other part about it is how do they envision him? Do they envision him fitting into a system as a quarterback or because he's such a. He has a physical presence to him, but his body type doesn't fit the mold for A quarterback. Are they trying to utilize him in maybe a different way? It will be interesting to see how that all plays out.
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Bobby Bones
I would assume because Lamar Jackson's not a big guy, he can play within.
- [15:54]
Matt Castle
Right.
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Bobby Bones
That Ravens offense. Because I think they probably, and you would know this more than I would, I think they probably scheme against his height. I don't think he's 6 1, 76 foot tall. Right. Like Lamar Jackson's not a big quarterback. Diego Pavia will be the shortest quarterback in the NFL, by the way.
- [16:09]
Matt Castle
Right, he will be. But at the same time, there is a system fit there because Diego Pavia with the zone read the ability to take off and run the schematically. You wouldn't have to change too much if Diego worked himself into a position to where he's a backup quarterback or something like that, where there's other guys that if you've got Lamar Jackson, you've got a 64 pocket passer. Now you're changing the entirety of the offense and how you approach it and that's a lot on an offensive coordinator do. But there is something to be said that Diego ran probably something similar to what Lamar does in terms of putting the defense in conflict and playing 11 on 11 football because of all the abilities that he has to run the football.
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Bobby Bones
I think I'm just fooled by the propaganda. It says Lamar Jackson 6 foot 2. And so the fact that Lamar Jackson.
- [16:55]
Matt Castle
No, I don't know that I just said that.
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Bobby Bones
I wouldn't have thought he was 62 because they, they talk about him like he's so easily, easily broken and small. Yeah, I would have said six foot max. Probably.
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Matt Castle
I would have said six foot. I think he's taller than that.
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Bobby Bones
It says he's 6 2. It also says Diego Pavi is 5 10. I'm gonna tell you, I don't know if that's true. So probably dealing with a six one and a five, nine.
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Matt Castle
Well, he was in the, in the roster or whatever it was. He was like 6:1 for Vandy. Yeah, Pavia, I was like wishes on with a little bit of a bump. But then they did it at the combine. They're like, yeah, he's 5 10.
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Bobby Bones
I was like, oh, did they give him 510 at the combine?
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Matt Castle
I think so. That's.
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Bobby Bones
I thought they gave him 5, 9 and a half. Yeah, I see 5, 9 and 7 8. Oh, that's so close. 510 and 1 8. Diego, you gotta like fake tippy toe that stuff. Like you can't get your heel all the way off the Ground. But here we go. Yeah.
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Jeremy Macklin
Sorry.
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Bobby Bones
Official combine height, 510 and 1 8. Okay, good friend.
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Matt Castle
That's where.
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Bobby Bones
That's like someone who gets their hand measured and it's really short. They go back the second time and all of a sudden it's grown because they've learned how to stretch themselves out.
- [17:55]
Matt Castle
Let's get a little. A little extra inch.
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Bobby Bones
Jeremy Macklin coming up just a little bit. So, Jeremy Macklin, star Mizzou. I'm supposed to hate Missouri. Arkansas's forced rival is Missouri.
- [18:05]
Matt Castle
Oh, is it the forced rival.
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Bobby Bones
It's the forced rival. Not really our rival. I don't really think they consider us their rival.
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Matt Castle
Is it because it's been so one sided?
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Bobby Bones
It's because the states border each other and it's called the borderline rivalry.
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Matt Castle
Good line.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah.
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Matt Castle
What's the trophy?
- [18:22]
Bobby Bones
The two states on top of each other. It's heavy. It's like 100 pounds.
- [18:25]
Matt Castle
I kind of like the Big Ten traditions of like the buckets and stuff. The pig.
- [18:29]
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
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Matt Castle
And the. The buckets, the spittoon, the ax. They just have the most random stuff in the Big Ten.
- [18:37]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Mizzou has been a forced rivalry for us. The head coach at Mizzou is Eli Drinkowicz, who I like a lot. I'm not supposed to, but he grew up a die hard Razorback fan. Season ticket holder, really. Coached high school in Arkansas.
- [18:51]
Matt Castle
Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
And then made his way, but never played college football. He's one of those guys that started coaching as soon as he finished high school.
- [18:58]
Matt Castle
Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
And is like nerd smart. Mike Leach was similar to that. Like, it's kind of a different approach. So everything about him is different. He acts different. You either love them or you hate them. And most people that aren't them hate them. Because he definitely has like a nerd swagger to him.
- [19:15]
Matt Castle
Right.
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Bobby Bones
But I really like him.
- [19:17]
Matt Castle
I think he's a hell of a football coach. He's built a great program there.
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Bobby Bones
I'm a big fan. I was hosting for Rich Eisen once, and I had him on the show when I was hosting for Rich. And he comes on and immediately he goes to. Because I don't know how he got access to it, but he goes to how much that I've been donating to the University of Arkansas. Immediately, first thing he starts talking about, he called you out big time. He's like, I saw you, Dana, donated this much money. Like, how did you find that out? We have access to that stuff. Like, called me out immediately on the show. So I will talk to Jeremy Macklin coming up in just a few minutes. All right, what do you have? What is your lead?
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Matt Castle
Did you see the Steelers placed a rarely used unrestricted free agent tinder on Aaron Rodgers? Now, to wrap our head around it, we're going to bring in our expert. Kevin, explain this, because you're trying to tell me what exactly this meant. And he's unrestricted, but they placed a tender on him.
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Bobby Bones
Does it mean that whatever someone else offers them, the Steelers have the right to offer him as well? Yeah, they have the first rights to him, and by July 22nd he can negotiate. They have the rights. And then if he signs another team, they have to give the Steeler. That team who signs them and if he agrees, has to give the Steelers a pick.
- [20:22]
Matt Castle
Yeah. Which is crazy to me. So they put this tender on them. They have the right of right to match the offer. It's a 10% increase in last year's salary.
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Jeremy Macklin
But.
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Matt Castle
But in addition to that, if the other team does decide to sign him, they've got to give up a pick.
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Bobby Bones
This feels a bit like Lamar Jackson was offered up a couple years ago. They were like, hey, Lamar, you be a free agent, whatever anybody else offers you, we'll will be. Match it. Yeah. Or be. Yeah, yeah. But his is a lot. I mean, Aaron Rodgers only got paid 15 million last 80 bucks, right? It was 80 bucks. Yeah. Next year.
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Matt Castle
Is that crazy? I thought he was making way more than 15 last year. And for that caliber of player with his experience and to come and be the guy for your team, the going rate for starting quarterback in the NFL these days is wildly higher than that.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah, but he's old. And it's not like he had any success with the jets except for that back half of the second season. Granted, there was an Achilles.
- [21:15]
Matt Castle
Terry blew out his Achilles.
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Bobby Bones
No, I know, but I'm saying. But there was no. There was no success there to pay him a bunch of money off of. I felt like last year was the year that he was going to kind of prove that he was still worth the money. But at the same time, you're still getting a year older while you're doing that. He's 61. Aaron Rodgers is 61.
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Matt Castle
Still doing it. 61 years old, still doing it. Doing it at a high level still, you know, and he's a decision maker. You know what he. When he makes that decision, he goes,
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Bobby Bones
he did look really good throwing the ball. He did last year.
- [21:38]
Matt Castle
He was. I mean, he's still Aaron Rogers. You still can sling it all over the yard.
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Bobby Bones
Man, you know, he's good old as LeBron.
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Matt Castle
Man, he's good. How does he do that? Dude? I mean, I just.
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Bobby Bones
41, I don't know.
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Matt Castle
41.
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Bobby Bones
The games are late, so it's annoying sometimes that the Lakers play West Coast. But I've been trying to watch as much of that series as possible because they have no Luca, they have no Austin Reeds. I don't think Luka is anywhere near coming back. And LeBron's doing it all. Yeah, game four was a pretty tough watch, but dude's 41 years old.
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Matt Castle
Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
Like, it's been wild to watch LeBron. I think LeBron's the best basketball player ever. I thought that for a while. I think LeBron's the best basketball player ever.
- [22:13]
Matt Castle
There's all the arguments, right? It's Jordan, it's Kobe, it's LeBron, but LeBron. I, I think everybody's argument against LeBron is that, well, he went to a dream team when he went to Miami to start, but then he won one in Cleveland and he's won one with the Lakers. They've stacked the, the cards around him, every championship he's won. But at the same time, if you go back and look at Jordan's teams during that dynasty, yeah, they were all
- [22:37]
Bobby Bones
of famer, top 50 all time, Pippin, Rodman, even like the Bill Cartwrights, the Will Purdue, who were just big dudes.
- [22:43]
Matt Castle
Right. But yeah, they were a stacked team. It wasn't just all Michael Jordan.
- [22:49]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. So LeBron is best basketball player ever. And I say that as someone who got to experience Michael Jordan. Like, you probably didn't get Michael Jordan, did you? No, I remember him more on the Wizards, on the Wizards in the front office, playing like LeBron, all time leading scorer. And I think he'll end up top three all time in assists. Yeah.
- [23:08]
Matt Castle
Yes.
- [23:08]
Bobby Bones
He's definitely the most athletic person of any sport.
- [23:11]
Matt Castle
Have you ever seen him play in person? Yeah, he is so big.
- [23:15]
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
- [23:16]
Matt Castle
I mean, it's incredible. His movement abilities, being that size. All those guys in the NBA, just from an athletic standpoint, it just blows my mind how skilled they are. But LeBron in particular, he's playing with
- [23:29]
Bobby Bones
his son in the playoffs too. I gotta say that as LeBron and a Lakers hater, that is really cool. I saw someone tweet out that LeBron created his own person to throw an alley oop too, because he, he threw one to Bronnie and Bronnie caught it. Kind of went under with the reverse layup. And it's like LeBron had to create his own person to throw an alley hoops here, which I thought was pretty funny. Why don't we break? We'll come back with Missouri Great Eagle chief Raven Jeremy Macklin.
- [24:02]
Jeremy Macklin
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- [27:43]
Bobby Bones
All right, let's bring in Jeremy Macklin, former Missouri star, first round NFL draft pick, longtime NFL wide receiver with the Eagles, Chiefs and Ravens. Over 500 catches, more than 6,800 receiving yards, 49 touchdowns. Now he's got a podcast called True Sons. T R U True Sons. You can listen wherever you get your podcast. Jeremy, appreciate you joining us.
- [28:03]
Jeremy Macklin
No, appreciate you guys having me on, man.
- [28:05]
Bobby Bones
Let me start with this. We're talking about the draft second ago. Do you remember your call? Like who, who called you and what they said to you on draft day?
- [28:12]
Jeremy Macklin
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And it kind of caught me off guard because it was the Philadelphia Eagles and I hadn't talked to them the whole draft process. Met, I guess I met with him at the combine, but no pre draft visit, no other calls. Nobody called about questionnaires, trying to find out kind of any background information. So. But yeah, man, you, that's something you never forget, right? I mean it's, it's, you know, it changes the whole landscape of what you got going on, man. But that was a pretty cool moment.
- [28:44]
Bobby Bones
Who was it that called you and
- [28:45]
Jeremy Macklin
what did he say at the time? It was Howie Roseman, actually. I take that back. I take that back. It was Joe Bannon. I also talked to Coach Reed and I talked to Howie Roseman all in that same sequence.
- [28:57]
Matt Castle
Talk to me about, you got to go and play for Coach Reed right off the jump as a rookie and throughout the early stages of your career, what is about Coach Reed's offense that, when it's firing on all cylinders, just makes it an incredible offense to not only play in, but. But also just to be able to excel at your position.
- [29:16]
Jeremy Macklin
I think he's the best. One of the best to ever do it in creating mismatches. Right. I think he does a good job of putting his playmakers in position to be successful, but also to have to have things in their favor. And I think it helps when you have good players. You know, you go from, you know, from desean myself, right? You go to, you know, Kansas City. I kind of follow him. But then you get a Tyreek and some of these other guys, Travis Kelce. But I think he just does an awesome job of putting us in position to be successful. And I think there's no. For him, there's no ego, right? There's no ego. There's no, hey, you know, we have to do things a certain way. I think he's constantly evolving with the game, and I think now it definitely helps when you got probably the quarterback that's on the fastest track to the hall of Fame than we've ever seen. Right? So, um, But I think he does a great job of putting his guys in position.
- [30:08]
Bobby Bones
Castle played with the Chiefs, and so we've talked about the fan base in Kansas City. Kansas City a little bit. What would you say the difference is? And can you feel it between the fan base in Philly and the fan base in Kansas City? Do they feel different?
- [30:20]
Jeremy Macklin
Definitely. I mean, the environment is different. I think they're both special places. Um, but I. I mean, they, you know, they didn't say they did. They didn't boo and throw snowballs at Santa Claus for no reason. Right. In. In Philly. So, I mean, you definitely feel the difference, but I think they both create a very, very unique experience that I would argue are two of the best in the whole National Football League. And I'm fortunate enough to have played for both of them.
- [30:45]
Matt Castle
When you come into an organization like that and a fan base like that as a first rounder, do you feel the pressure immediately to perform at a high level right away?
- [30:55]
Jeremy Macklin
Oh, absolutely. I think, you know, I. I'm not going to say it's just, you know, no in particular to just Philly. I think it's anywhere. But, you know, you definitely feel the pressures not only from the fan base, but. But from yourself. Right. But, you know, if you're not playing well, they're going to let you know about it, right? You're going to read the blogs, you're going to read, you know, the sites for a little bit. I had to get off of those things when I was in Philly early on, until I learned how to not let those things affect me, because I had never, at least not that I seen. I had never been talked about in a negative way before. You know, I was called injury prone, which was odd because I was on track to be one of the receivers who played the most. I was called soft and all these other things, and that kind of shut people up when I had my big year in Philly. So you definitely have to condition yourself to be able to handle some of those things. And kind of as you navigate your career, you kind of realize that at the end of the day, they just want to win, right? Maybe they don't know how to have the best delivery on how to tell you those type of things, but at the end of the day, fans just want to win. And as players for those certain fan bases, you want to be able to do what you can to help deliver those wins physically.
- [32:17]
Bobby Bones
What would you tell rookies coming in, like, how to adjust and how to be ready for the NFL?
- [32:22]
Jeremy Macklin
Honestly, I would say find a vet. Find a vet who's done it at a high level, who knows how to go about their business, whether it's how you take care of your bodies, whether it's what you do in the weight room. Things nowadays are a lot. You hear a lot of things about sports science and kind of bringing some of the science into, you know, how to condition your bodies and then kind of how to take care of your body. So that's a little bit different than when I played, but I would say find a vet man that's been in it, who understands how to do it, who's been able to, you know, do it for a long time and be consistent. I really just kind of, you know, grab onto them and kind of pick their brains, not only about things that they do on the field, but things they do off the field, but as well.
- [33:07]
Matt Castle
What do you think for these wide receivers in the league today that separates elite wide receiver play versus good wide receiver play? And is there something you could point to and say it's. It's route running, it's route recognition, it's defensive recognition? I just, I'm interested to hear from your perspective.
- [33:24]
Jeremy Macklin
Man, I think there's so many different ways you can look at it, right? I think sometimes you got guys that are just physical freaks. You Know that can go out there and do things that just physically nobody else can do. You can definitely see certain guys who. Who may be better at running routes, who may be better at winning contested balls, who may be better at the line of scrimmage or releasing, maybe better getting and out of breaks. I think a lot of times good from elite sometimes is just target share. Sometimes it's how many times you're getting the ball thrown your way. Right. As good as ja' Marr Chase is, and I would arguably say he's a top two receiver in the league, it definitely helps, man. And you're getting, you know, you can say something next game, you're getting 25 targets. You know what I mean? And, you know, in today's game, he may deserve. He may deserve that. So I'm not throwing any shade on him for that. But I think a lot of times, man, when you get to the best of the best, sometimes it's target share and sometimes it's about, you know, your opportunities and what you're able to do with those targets and, you know, how frequent those targets come.
- [34:26]
Bobby Bones
Was that a conversation that you ever had to have, even behind closed doors of, hey, I think I need the ball a little more?
- [34:32]
Jeremy Macklin
I think the way I played the game and I always wanted to be a complete football player, so I always, you know, it didn't matter, you know, kind of what was going on in. Throughout the course of the game, I was going to play my hardest. Were there times where I was upset where I didn't get the ball? Absolutely. But it never affected the way I played the game. My big thing was it was kind of if the oc, If I wasn't in the mind of the OC to try to get the ball in my hands, I think that's where my issues came into play. But if he called plays that were supposed to go my way, and for whatever reason, you know, maybe he missed me or maybe there was a different coverage or maybe we got pressure or, hell, maybe I didn't get open right then. As a receiver, you can't be mad about that, right? Hey, he tried to get you the ball. You were at the forefront of his mind. Things just didn't work out. But it's no secret. Every receiver likes the ball. Every receiver wants to be involved. But, yeah, that was kind of how I approached it.
- [35:27]
Matt Castle
You know, during your career, you played with some really good quarterbacks. You had Donovan McNabb, Michael Vick, Alex Smith, Joe Flacco. Of all those quarterbacks, which one threw the Most receiver, friendly, catchable ball.
- [35:40]
Jeremy Macklin
So I think, I think the guy to do the most receiver, friendly, catchable ball is Alex Smith. I love Lawrence, man. He's a great, great, great competitor. I think he's extremely underrated. I think my favorite quarterback you didn't even name was Nick Foles. Me and Nick Rona had a pretty good relationship. We're on a pretty good historic pace. The year before he broke his collarbone, we just had things clicking. And I think still to this day, I mean, I got no gripe against any of the quarterbacks I play with. I'm appreciative of all of them, but I think that my favorite was Nick Foles.
- [36:20]
Bobby Bones
Now that you're the head coach of your alma mater, I see your hoodie on there now, Kirkwood, when you're doing position breakouts, are you going with quarterbacks? Who's the head coach, or are you going with the receivers?
- [36:30]
Jeremy Macklin
A little bit of everything. I float, man. So I am the offensive coordinator. So I run our group offensive meetings, but when we break down, there's sometimes I'm in there with the receivers. There's a lot of times I'm there with the old line. Right? That was one of the things that I had to learn when I got back to high school was offensive line play at the high school level. Because where I just came from, you know, I'm used to Jason Kelsey being able to snap the ball and be the first puller out or I'm. I'm used to, you know, certain guys being able to handle these guys one on one. And in high school, it's a completely different game. You kind of got to, you know, be a little more strategic, especially up front. Offensively, you don't. I feel like defensive lines at the high school level are a little more advanced, not because of schematics, but just because, hey, they don't have to be as technical. I can just kind of bulldoze you. I can, you know, speed, speed, move you, whatever the case may be. So it was learning offensive line for me at the high school level. Foreign. Football.
- [37:43]
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- [38:04]
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- [39:12]
Karissa Thompson
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- [40:15]
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- [41:19]
Matt Castle
What made you want to go back and coach high school football? Obviously, with the wealth of knowledge that you have that you can make a major impact. But why the decision to be a head coach?
- [41:29]
Jeremy Macklin
I mean, I knew I wanted to coach. In what capacity? At what level? I didn't really know. I had some chances to do some stuff in college. I had some chances to do some stuff in the league. Those chances, those opportunities still will come every now and then. When I got back here, my little cousin was a senior here at my alma mater and it was a chance for me to coach him. And ironically, he just signed a free agent deal with the bill, so good luck to him. But I just knew I wanted to coach and being able to do it at where I'm from, I walk these same halls. I live in some of these, same neighborhood as some of these kids. There's no better feeling. I feel like I'm supposed to be home and I feel like this is my purpose.
- [42:15]
Bobby Bones
Is there a lot of teaching that you do to your, you coach offensive, you're your offensive coordinator, but like your defensive coordinator, like your other position, your skill position. Coaches, because you play in the league, they also want to know from you.
- [42:26]
Jeremy Macklin
Yeah, they ask a lot of questions. Especially my receiver coach. I feel like him and I have a really good relationship. Constantly talking, constantly bouncing ideas off of each other. He's constantly picking my brain. You know, really cool moment the other week, you know, my little cousin was here kind of working with the receivers, just giving them some pointers. But yeah, man, you know, I think a lot of times, especially the old head coach, when I first started, I was just a volunteer receiver coach. But he used to, he wanted to know more about the stories. He wanted to know more about the guys that I played with. Who was the goofiest, who was the craziest? What's the craziest NFL story you had? But yeah, man, just constantly I'm able to, you know, kind of share my knowledge, but I trust my staff. I got three former head coaches on my staff. We got close to 200 years of experience, damn near. So it's It's a pretty good group
- [43:22]
Matt Castle
that I have the question that he asked about the craziest NFL story you have. If. Do you have it on the top of your brain? Because I kind of want to hear this, man.
- [43:34]
Jeremy Macklin
Yes, that's appropriate to share.
- [43:38]
Matt Castle
Hey, hey. Inappropriate, appropriate. Whatever's on your mind, spit it.
- [43:42]
Jeremy Macklin
So here's the deal. So this. This didn't happen to me, right? But you remember.
- [43:46]
Bobby Bones
You remember.
- [43:46]
Jeremy Macklin
So when the XFL became like a thing, you guys remember he hate me.
- [43:52]
Matt Castle
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
- [43:53]
Jeremy Macklin
So be like, yeah. So I couldn't believe this. So we. I get to Philly, I'm a rookie, and I'm sitting in the training room and the trainers are talking and they're talking about just crazy things that have happened, right? So he did two crazy things. One of them I feel like I can share. The other one's a little bit more extreme, but. So I guess Philly plays the Panthers in a divisional playoff game at this time, he's not a part of the team. I actually think he's signed to a different team. Somehow, some way, he had made his way onto the Eagles sideline. He had an Eagles coat on, and they end up beating the Panthers. And he's running around celebrating, talking about, so, hey, we did it, right? LeBron's up. So he's a part of the big celebration. He's not even a part of the team, Right. And all that other stuff, I just see that, how that happens, right? You got all that security on the sideline. How does a guy who has nothing to do with the organization makes his way back to the sideline?
- [44:55]
Bobby Bones
On you guys podcast, you talk college football a lot, especially in Missouri. If you could fix, I don't say change, but if you could fix something within college football right now, but you get one fix only. What do you do?
- [45:05]
Jeremy Macklin
That's not a fair question, man. There's a lot. I would say there needs to be a cap on the number of years of eligibility or I think kind of hand in hand. I think there needs to be a salary cap on nil.
- [45:19]
Bobby Bones
With no cap, it allows the big dogs to get even bigger.
- [45:23]
Jeremy Macklin
Yeah, the big dogs are getting bigger. And even steel, right? Like, even with, you know what they are talking about that's on the brink of college ball with, you know, the. The everybody opting in and having kind of what we're talking about, like this salary cap. No, how do you regulate, you know, a dealership wanting to give somebody an endorsement deal and paying them X amount of dollars. Right. So I I just think there's so much right that you have that you have to fix. I think those two would. Would be a start, but I think there's just so much you got to fix.
- [45:58]
Matt Castle
How much money do you think you would have made in nil money when you were in college based on all your accolades and achievements?
- [46:05]
Jeremy Macklin
Are we. Are we present day or we talking about.
- [46:07]
Bobby Bones
We're present day.
- [46:07]
Matt Castle
We're present day.
- [46:08]
Bobby Bones
Present day, yeah.
- [46:09]
Matt Castle
Jerry Macklin, All American, sitting there, they're saying, hey, what's it going to take to bring you back for one more year?
- [46:17]
Jeremy Macklin
For what I did and who I was to that football team, I'm not saying that I'm as good of a prospect as Jeremiah Smith. I think if he's getting top dollar, I think that's kind of where I probably would have been at.
- [46:32]
Bobby Bones
Why did you go to Missouri? Like, why? Because you could have really gone anywhere. But why'd you go to Missouri?
- [46:39]
Jeremy Macklin
In state school, I think they show me. They show me what it kind of what I was looking for, man, I wanted a family environment. I wanted a place where I was going to feel kind of at home, away from home. For those who don't know, I was committed to the University of Oklahoma to start, and then my receiver coach ended up going to the National Football League. So that was kind of my way out of it. And Mizzou just kind of stayed constant. Coach Pinkles are. Was that staff that he put together and kind of the way that they had things going, you know, it just made a lot of sense for me, and I kind of want to be a part of that turnaround, and I saw it on a break, and I was able to come and help that. Help that turnaround. Yeah.
- [47:26]
Matt Castle
When you. When you look at Missouri today and the program that Eli Drinkwitz has built, are you a proud alumni of what's going on there and the success that they've had?
- [47:37]
Jeremy Macklin
Absolutely. Absolutely. And, you know, I think they have the right guy for the job, too. I think Drink has done a heck of a job, you know, me being in the high school game. I think he's done a heck of job in the state of Missouri recruiting, and I think that was kind of probably what was missing. I think there was too many good players getting out of the state of Missouri, and I think he's kind of closed that gap a little bit. Now. When you sit up there, you look at Jeremiah Love, who's From, you know, St. Louis, I played against him. You see him go to Notre Dame and things like that. I think those things still hurt a little bit, but I think he's definitely done a really good job of keeping those high profile guys at Emazzoo. And I think you're seeing a result of that kind of on the, on the collision level. Now we got, we got to win the bigger games, right? We got to win the close games against the close, the good teams, right? You got to beat Alabama, you got to beat Oklahoma, you got to, you got to beat Vandy, you got to beat Texas and some of those teams that are in sec. So Georgia, I think that's the next step. We've been in those games, we've been in situations to do that. Right now we got to get over there.
- [48:41]
Bobby Bones
On you guys podcast, how much you talk college football, how much you talk your career. What do you guys do?
- [48:45]
Jeremy Macklin
Yeah, a little bit of everything. Like you said earlier, podcast is true sounds with the U and we just talk about it's a Mizzou base, but we talk about kind of what going on in college ball. We've talked about what's going on in NFL. We touch on sports in general, in particular football, you know, and then we kind of get into, you know, kind of what we do kind of personally kind of our stories, kind of how we became who we are and kind of what we represent, you know. But, you know, we kind of kind of do a little bit of everything, I think every week, you know, kind of touch on things that are relevant and kind of what's happening now too. But yeah, man, I think if you want a good podcast to listen to talking about college sports in particular, college football with kind of Mizzou twist to it, I think that's the one to listen to.
- [49:33]
Matt Castle
I mean, I look at Mizzou, especially over these last 15 years, it's been a feeder program for the NFL. You've got some dudes at Mizzou year in year out there, make it to the NFL, making an impact on NFL rosters. Talk to me about why, when the outside perspective might look at Mizzou as a little bit different. If you were to recruit somebody like a five star kid and you want them to come to Mizzou, what would you tell them about the school to bring them in? What's your selling point?
- [50:02]
Jeremy Macklin
Well, I think, I think first and foremost they're going to love you, right? They are going to treat you how you should be treated. And I say that because, like you've heard stories about kids going other places and feeling like they're just, they're just a part of something, not necessarily really feeling like they're valued at where they are. And I think Mizzou is going to help you do that. I think Mizzou's constantly pushing the needle in the right direction.
- [50:29]
Bobby Bones
Right.
- [50:29]
Jeremy Macklin
I think we're constantly, you know, bringing new things to Colombia. I think it's a growing city. I think, you know, the resources are growing. I think, you know, we're right on the brink of doing something special. Special and being able to compete year in and year out, you know, on a national level. And I think, you know, you can be that, that. That five star, like you just said, that five star that helps us do that. You look at what Signetti did last year at Indiana, who I think people say over the last decade was historically one of the worst programs. All it takes is the right guy, man, and the right guys behind him, man, and you can make it happen in today's. In today's game. And I think, like I said, Mizzou has the resources to do that. But like I said, it's a special place. Right? You got you. It's hard to say it because, you know, not very many people have been to Columbia, Missouri. Right. But, man, game days, the fan support, just everything that's kind of going around in Colombia, man, it's all pointed in the right direction.
- [51:31]
Bobby Bones
Jeremy, really appreciate the time and hope everybody checks out. True Sons, it's Tru True Sons podcast. Yeah. Good luck with your with your team and appreciate you spending some time with us here today.
- [51:40]
Jeremy Macklin
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Bobby Bones
Thanks, Jeremy.
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Bobby Bones
All right, there's a story of this high school baseball team and they had the choice of go play in a playoff game or go to prom.
- [55:38]
Matt Castle
Tell me they went and played and oh gosh, it's tough, it's tough.
- [55:43]
Bobby Bones
You only get one prom.
- [55:44]
Matt Castle
So they decided to go to promote.
- [55:48]
Bobby Bones
Most of them did, yeah. The good ones especially like the good pitcher. The really good pitcher. So, Wes Nassau lost its high school baseball playoff game to Suwanee in only five innings. They got crushed because they did not have the players. The warriors were without a good chunk of their roster because of prom. A majority of the upperclassmen on the team chose not to play.
- [56:06]
Matt Castle
Could we just make an adjustment and go, hey, let's do it on the next day or the day before.
- [56:12]
Bobby Bones
Got one better. Let's do it at 2pm There were times in my scholastic career where something would happen in the evening. They would move a game and yeah, it would have bumped right up against school. Yeah, but it didn't happen often, but it did happen a couple times. But the schedule makers in the state of Florida failed the athletes. This is according to Bro Bible. And so they have about a thousand students, nine through 12. It's in Callahan, Florida, which is the northwestern most corner of the state, right near the Georgia border. The warriors compete in the Class 3A level. Now the reason I think probably some of the kids decided not to play in the playoff game is they just barely were good enough to make the playoffs anyway. I think if you're a real contender, you think about it differently. If you're a team that's around 500, which is what they were, and it's prom versus you're probably going to lose anyway. Or if you do win, it's probably one more game max.
- [57:03]
Matt Castle
You're like, oh, we're probably not going to go, guys. I mean, let's be honest.
- [57:07]
Bobby Bones
So I think that's probably what made that decision a little easier.
- [57:12]
Matt Castle
It's not an easy decision because no matter how you do it, you're letting down the teammates that you played with all season. And at the same time, if you make the decision to play, you end up losing and you miss out on prom because that's a life experience that you take memories away for, from, for the rest of your life.
- [57:31]
Bobby Bones
So it's mostly 10th graders that played. I was looking at the picture on Instagram or maybe it was Twitter. If you're a junior though, you're a little more intrigued to play, right? Because you have another year to go, right?
- [57:40]
Matt Castle
You got another year. You're like, dude, I'm not passing up on this party fest. Are you kidding me?
- [57:44]
Bobby Bones
I don't know. They were just okay. Yeah. If they were a good team and they had a real shot, I think you'd have probably seen even the upperclassmen stay and not go to prom. But again, because they were just barely right at 500. You're se. You're at your ceiling already going to the playoffs. And what a great way to say how you lost the playoffs.
- [58:02]
Jeremy Macklin
Yeah.
- [58:03]
Bobby Bones
Who know, we could have won state but we went to prom.
- [58:06]
Matt Castle
You, you had a built in excuse. Guys, we had prom.
- [58:08]
Bobby Bones
I'm sorry.
- [58:09]
Matt Castle
They messed up the scheduling. It's not our fault. It's their fault.
- [58:13]
Bobby Bones
The best pitcher on the team, Fisher Bennett, he finished the regular season with a 0.94 ERA.
- [58:19]
Matt Castle
Wow.
- [58:20]
Bobby Bones
And he went to prom, as did a number of his teams.
- [58:22]
Matt Castle
He might have been able to help the team win with a 0.94. Yeah.
- [58:28]
Bobby Bones
But then he won't be able to throw the next day and they're probably going to lose that one anyway. Justice for. Justice for the team. The schedule makers. Let them down.
- [58:35]
Matt Castle
Let them down. Let them down. Did you hear this story about this ex Alabama defensive tackle that plead guilty for. For impersonating NFL players? It's a wild story.
- [58:46]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Like was the Alabama defense Alabama and.
- [58:49]
Matt Castle
But the audacity this guy had. I think his name was Luther Davis. He's 37 year old, pled guilty in federal court in Atlanta. One count of conspiracy to commit wire fraud, one count of aggravated identity theft. CJ Evans, 29, also was accused of executing the scheme with Davis. He went in and impersonated Michael Pennix Jr. David Najoku, Xavier McKinney for Green Bay. He. And then it also says that he would wear wigs, makeup, do rags, all these things and to defraud these people for money. It was wild. And who comes up with that type of elaborate scheme and tries to execute it and not think that they're going to get caught?
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Bobby Bones
It's weird that he can impersonate a quarterback, David Njoku and a defensive tackle. Like what size are you? And who's falling for this tight end and safety? If you think Michael Pennix is this former defensive tackle, like I didn't know how big the guy is impersonating people. He must be going to people that know nothing about football.
- [59:45]
Matt Castle
And also are you profiling them and saying I kind of look like him. I think if I put on this, it might give the impression that I am him.
- [59:54]
Bobby Bones
And you go on a jersey.
- [59:56]
Matt Castle
I mean that's wild to think about that. But he Was getting away with it for a long time.
- [60:01]
Bobby Bones
The Coachella Music Fest. Somebody went in and poses Justin Bieber's team and stole a bunch of golf carts. You guys see that? No, they just drove off with all of them. They put them on a trailer and drove off. Yeah.
- [60:12]
Matt Castle
Wow.
- [60:13]
Bobby Bones
I mean, if you have confidence, you can pretty much get. Can't do anything.
- [60:17]
Matt Castle
Part of Justin Bieber scene. We need a few golf carts. Okay. Boom. Trailer's there.
- [60:21]
Jeremy Macklin
Out.
- [60:22]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. I'm going to type in Justin Bieber Coachella golf cart theft.
- [60:25]
Matt Castle
Yes.
- [60:26]
Bobby Bones
Here we go. Because for sure this happened. Newport beach business scam by phony Bieber staff who claimed the pop star needed rentals for Coachella and they drove them to Mexico. This is from the New York Post. A Newport beach rental company says it's been left reeling after four of its compact Moki style buggies worth more than $200,000 altogether vanished. And what was an orchestrated scam tied to pop star Justin Bieber? He had nothing to do with it, but yeah, a guy went in, identified himself as Allen, said he worked with Bieber and to shuffle Justin Bieber. And they said, all right. Everything seemed to check out. So they gave them to him. And they look like little mini jeeps. Have you guys seen them? They're able to travel around in places like golf carts, but they look like small jeeps if you do M O K e. But they stole four of them and they put up on a trail and drove them right off. It's crazy. Those are legit. No, they're cool, right? You can't drive them on the road. Yeah. But if like you're in like fancy beach town, this is like.
- [61:26]
Matt Castle
Oh, yeah.
- [61:27]
Bobby Bones
What would be driving around. Yeah. I was gonna say this screams Newport Beach.
- [61:30]
Matt Castle
This is. Well, this is for sure what Bobby rents anytime he goes to the beach.
- [61:33]
Bobby Bones
I don't go.
- [61:34]
Jeremy Macklin
Oh, wow.
- [61:34]
Matt Castle
It's like a kid's car. That's definitely the one Bobby drives with the pink one.
- [61:39]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, the Barbie mobile.
- [61:40]
Matt Castle
Oh, Barbie mobile. My kids would love that. Kid me.
- [61:43]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. I just can't use it really.
- [61:45]
Matt Castle
Here.
- [61:45]
Bobby Bones
I thought about getting a four wheeler here. Just drive around the property. But then what am I gonna do? I'm.
- [61:49]
Matt Castle
I've got a Ranger.
- [61:51]
Bobby Bones
You have bigger property than I do.
- [61:52]
Matt Castle
Yeah, it's blast. That's how I teach the kids how to drive.
- [61:56]
Bobby Bones
You're on probably acreage, real acreage, 30 something. And I mean, there's no need to flex that. But 30 something must be nice.
- [62:06]
Matt Castle
What you asked me, right? Did you or you I did.
- [62:09]
Bobby Bones
I said, you're on some acreage, you
- [62:11]
Matt Castle
know, every now and then, you know, you guys gonna throw?
- [62:13]
Bobby Bones
Oh, that's nice.
- [62:13]
Matt Castle
30. 30 plus.
- [62:14]
Bobby Bones
Must be nice to be Matt Castle. That's all I'm saying.
- [62:16]
Matt Castle
I just get to drive my Ranger around it.
- [62:19]
Bobby Bones
That's it. Again, thanks to Jeremy, thanks to Matt Castle, thanks to Kickoff. Kevin, thanks to Brandon Ray. Thanks to you guys for listening. I'm Bobby Bones. We have had lots to say. Goodbye, everybody. Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is a production of the NFL and iHeart podcasts. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Karissa Thompson
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- [64:10]
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Karissa Thompson
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