Lots to Say: Singer and Actor Tim McGraw

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Podcast Summary: The Bobby Bones Show – "Lots to Say: Singer and Actor Tim McGraw"

Podcast Information

• Title: The Bobby Bones Show
• Host/Author: Premiere Networks
• Description: Listen to 'The Bobby Bones Show' by downloading the daily full replay.
• Episode: Lots to Say: Singer and Actor Tim McGraw
• Release Date: January 9, 2025

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1. Introduction and Welcome

The episode kicks off with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle welcoming their guest, Tim McGraw, a renowned singer and actor. Tim is introduced as a "major athlete" with a playful jab about being potentially annoying, setting a lighthearted tone for the conversation.

[00:57] Tim McGraw: "We're glad you're here and we hope you stay? Cause we got lots to say."

2. NFL Quarterback Discussion

A substantial portion of the episode delves into a heated discussion about the current NFL quarterback landscape, focusing on Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, and Josh Allen. The hosts analyze their performances, MVP candidacies, and the concept of a "golden age" for quarterbacks.

• Statistical Breakdown:
  • Lamar Jackson: 4,100 passing yards, 41 touchdowns, 4 interceptions, 915 rushing yards, 4 rushing touchdowns.
  • Joe Burrow: 4,900 passing yards, 43 touchdowns.
  • Josh Allen: 3,700 passing yards, 28 touchdowns, 531 rushing yards, 12 rushing touchdowns.

[09:28] Tim McGraw: "If any of those guys have that season, independent of the other two guys, they're all three the MVP 100%."

Bobby and Bobby express strong support for Josh Allen, highlighting his impactful play despite team struggles. They debate the influence of surrounding team dynamics on MVP votes, with Tim ultimately agreeing with the sentiment but expressing frustration over repetitive award recognitions.

[06:23] Bobby Bones: "He should be, which is why I put him in."

[07:12] Tim McGraw: "I agree with you and I also pick Josh Allen."

3. Personal Stories and Relationship with Tim McGraw

The hosts share personal anecdotes, emphasizing their genuine relationship with Tim McGraw. Tim recounts a humorous incident involving a nose hair removal, showcasing his down-to-earth personality.

[13:42] Tim McGraw: "Hair, thumb and forefinger right into my nose hole. Didn't ask, didn't need to."

Bobby highlights Tim's meticulous nature and commitment to fitness, stressing how Tim and his band maintain a rigorous workout regimen on the road.

[24:30] Tim McGraw: "We get in two or three workouts a day when we're on the road."

4. Tim McGraw's Athletic Background

Tim McGraw delves into his high school athletic career across multiple sports, particularly basketball, football, and baseball. He shares impressive stats, such as averaging 28.8 points per game in basketball and scoring a 54-point game while battling the flu.

[14:24] Tim McGraw: "I averaged 28 points a game."

He discusses his multi-sport offers in college and the pivotal decision to pursue music over athletics, comparing the minor league lifestyle to the challenges of a music career.

[19:03] Tim McGraw: "It was a blessing that I didn't grow till later."

5. Tim McGraw's Music and Acting Career

The conversation transitions to Tim McGraw's passion for music, ignited during his college years when he purchased a guitar with money from pawning his high school ring. He shares stories about his early performances and the role of producer Byron Gallimore in launching his music career.

[20:23] Tim McGraw: "I taught myself to play guitar over the summer and ended up with about 50 songs."

Tim also discusses his foray into acting, highlighting his role in "Friday Night Lights" and how it aligned with his athletic background. He reflects humorously on his appearance in the movie "Four Christmases," attributing his motivation to improve his fitness to his daughter's candid remarks.

[30:32] Tim McGraw: "I don't like to watch myself back at all on special movies because all I see is me trying to play somebody else."

6. "Confirm or Deny" Segment: Opinions on NFL Players and Coaches

In a spirited "Confirm or Deny" segment, Bobby and Tim exchange strong opinions on various NFL figures:

• Will Levis: Bobby confirms that Will Levis is currently underperforming as a quarterback but acknowledges his potential to develop.

  [40:43] Tim McGraw: "Will Levis is a bad quarterback."

  [42:00] Bobby Bones: "His potential is that he can become a solid quarterback in the NFL."

• Mike McCarthy (Dallas Cowboys Coach): Both confirm McCarthy as a good coach, appreciating his track record and relationship with owner Jerry Jones.

  [45:15] Bobby Bones: "I'm going to confirm that McCarthy is a good football coach."

• Trevor Lawrence: Bobby denies that Trevor Lawrence is yet a "really good quarterback," citing inconsistency despite his talent.

  [48:37] Bobby Bones: "Deny because he hasn't been able to prove that."

• Bryce Young: Bobby confirms that Bryce Young has the potential to be a top 10 NFL quarterback, praising his responsiveness and resilience.

  [50:02] Bobby Bones: "I love the way he's responded this season."

• Tua Tagovailoa: Bobby confirms that Tua is better than people give him credit for, emphasizing his role as a franchise quarterback.

  [51:43] Bobby Bones: "I believe that Tua is the franchise quarterback for that organization."

Tim McGraw interjects humorously, acknowledging his own lack of expertise while still sharing his unfiltered opinions.

[44:06] Bobby Bones: "The dude's jacked."

[44:32] Bobby Bones: "The most awkward situation when somebody calls you out."

7. Final Wrap-Up and Closing Remarks

The episode concludes with Tim McGraw and the hosts reflecting on the intense nature of NFL games, discussing the physical and mental challenges faced by players and quarterbacks. They share light-hearted moments about technology updates and social media, particularly TikTok, before wrapping up.

[61:58] Tim McGraw: "Thank you guys for listening."

[62:23] Bobby Bones: "Thanks to Tim McGraw, he's Matt Castle, I'm Bobby Bones."

The episode ends with a final nod to Tim McGraw's multifaceted career and his enduring relationship with the hosts, leaving listeners entertained and informed.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Tim McGraw on MVP Debate:

  [09:28] Tim McGraw: "If any of those guys have that season, independent of the other two guys, they're all three the MVP 100%."

• Bobby Bones on Josh Allen:

  [06:23] Bobby Bones: "He should be, which is why I put him in."

• Tim McGraw on Personal Relationships:

  [13:42] Tim McGraw: "Hair, thumb and forefinger right into my nose hole. Didn't ask, didn't need to."

• Bobby Bones on Tim's Workout Routine:

  [24:30] Tim McGraw: "We get in two or three workouts a day when we're on the road."

• Tim McGraw on Basketball Stats:

  [14:24] Tim McGraw: "I averaged 28 points a game."

• Bobby Bones on "Confirm or Deny" Segment:

  [40:43] Tim McGraw: "Will Levis is a bad quarterback."

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Transcript

[Bobby Bones]

Come on, hurry up.

[Matt Castle]

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[Tim McGraw]

Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is a production of the NFL and iHeart podcasts. We got lots to say? We got lots to say? We're glad you're here and we hope you stay? Cause we got lots to say? Yeah, we got lots to say now here's Bobby and Mad. What's up everybody? Tim McGraw. Coming up in just a little major athlete. Tim McGault was a major athlete. One of those annoying guys. But you're like this too. You're annoying probably, man.

[Bobby Bones]

Thank you. I appreciate that, that.

[Tim McGraw]

You're tall, you're good looking, you could play every sport.

[Bobby Bones]

No, basketball was never my sport.

[Tim McGraw]

Okay, but you played college baseball. You played football. You could have played basketball. You're 6 4. It's like God, like had had beans that could go in two jars and he like put too many in your jar and I'm like, dude, I got like a third over here.

[Bobby Bones]

You know what? I could play a little pickup basketball, but I'm always the guy in the low post because I can't shoot to save my life. And I've always been jealous of those guys that come out and they could be any height and they're out there on the arc.

[Tim McGraw]

Just don't talk about being jealous of athletes because I'm sitting next to you.

[Bobby Bones]

No, basketball athletes I am jealous of, period.

[Tim McGraw]

It's like you had all the traits to be a successful quarterback because I don't think you can be a truly successful quarterback and be ugly in the face.

[Bobby Bones]

I'VE seen a few.

[Tim McGraw]

Very few.

[Bobby Bones]

Very few, very few.

[Tim McGraw]

Like Roethlisberger, probably not the best looking dude. He's, he's. But he's above average, though.

[Bobby Bones]

He's above average.

[Tim McGraw]

Yeah. I'm not even saying he's ugly, but when I think of like quarterbacks that aren't like chisel, like you got the chisel, you got the height, you got the. Obviously the work ethic that's there.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm not taking anything, I would say that, that.

[Tim McGraw]

But you can't be a premier quarterback without being good looking. Lamar's good looking. Josh Allen's good looking. Joe Burrow's good looking.

[Bobby Bones]

Keep going.

[Tim McGraw]

I'm good.

[Bobby Bones]

Jimmy Garoppolo, the best.

[Tim McGraw]

But you have to have certain elements.

[Bobby Bones]

You do have to have certain.

[Tim McGraw]

And I don't think he had all the. Did you, Were you ever with Garoppolo?

[Bobby Bones]

No, I wasn't. But I, I, Yes, I know him pretty well. We used to work out in the off season.

[Tim McGraw]

But I would be annoyed by him too. He's just so good looking.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, he's got, he's got some, something to him for sure.

[Tim McGraw]

I want to talk quarterbacks.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, what part of them. Well, what aspects? Well, what facial structure.

[Tim McGraw]

I want to talk about the three quarterbacks. Lamar, Joe Burrow and Josh.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, gosh.

[Tim McGraw]

Because here we are and we're talking.

Yeah, right.

Like, it's like a golden age again.

[Bobby Bones]

It is, it really is. Because when you look at, you know, you get through the Brady, the breeze, the, the Manning, that whole time period, it was like, could we ever get back to this? And then you look at this crop of quarterbacks that we have, it's crept up.

[Tim McGraw]

We're here again.

[Bobby Bones]

It's unbelievable.

[Tim McGraw]

So the MVP is obviously the topic of discussion. And so I'm just going to read some stats here for a second. Uh, Lamar Jackson threw for 4,100 yards. I believe he had the highest quarterback rating ever this year. Um, 41 touchdowns, four interceptions. 41 and four and 915 rush yards. Now Joe Burrow has 4,900 passing yards, so that's 49 compared to Lamar's 41. So he does beat him in that 43 touchdowns.

[Bobby Bones]

But the pass, I mean, the, you have to add on with Lamar, the rushing.

[Tim McGraw]

Oh, yeah, Lamar had four rushing touchdowns. Okay. Where Burrow had two more passing touchdowns. But again, Burrow's not really in the conversation. But I'm going to put him in the conversation.

[Bobby Bones]

He should be, which is why I.

[Tim McGraw]

Put him in, statistically speaking. Statistically Speaking, Josh Allen, 37, 31 passing yards, so roughly 400 yards less than Lamar. 28 touchdowns, six interceptions, 531 rushing yards, 12 rushing touchdowns. You're looking at 23 different. If these happen in a vacuum, all three of them win the MVP 100%.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, there's no question about it. When you look, everybody that you just mentioned played in the MVP caliber this season. It just happens to be the year that they all did it in the same year. When you look at Lamar and what he's able to do on the football field, there's nobody quite like him. Josh Allen, he's a unicorn. I mean, for being the size that he is, the arm strength, the talent. And I think he's taken his game to the next level because every year the defenses were able to configure something that gave him a little bit of difficulty. But this year he's making great decisions. He's seen the field well and then also his ability to take off and make something out of nothing. I think what separates Josh Allen this year and what everybody keeps talking about is the fact that when you look at the weapons on the outside, it's not comparable to what you're dealing with with Joe Burrow or Lamar Jackson. It's just not.

[Tim McGraw]

Which is why he's probably going to win the mvp. He's the favorite right now, right? Even though Lamar has had a history type season and I'm not declaring yet who I would vote for as mvp, but I'm saying I think Josh Allen is also the betting favorite right now because there's a two seed. He does not have Derek Henry does not have the receivers that Lamar has or Joe Burrow and He threw for 37, 30, 28 and 12 rushing touchdowns. Now you're going to have the stat people that go, Lamar outperformed him in most areas except for rushing touchdowns, but Baltimore did not win as much and he had better weapons. Now, is that an argument?

[Bobby Bones]

It's an argument because you're the most valuable player based on the team that surrounds you. Because as a quarterback you do have to have a group of skill players around you that can make plays on a consistent basis. Obviously these guys all elevate those guys around him. But Jamar Chase, he had a historical season.

[Tim McGraw]

T. Higgins, he killed it this year.

[Bobby Bones]

He's. If Jamar, I mean Jamar Chase is number one, T. Higgins is one double A like he is right there next to him. He'll be paid as a number one wide receiver and be another market guy next year. If he's not back with the Bengals. So he had two number one wide receivers. Then when you look at Josh Allen, there's a lot of youth on the outside and a lot of young guys that he, he took those guys to the next level and put them on his back. And without Josh Allen, that team's nowhere near where they, they are at the end of the season.

[Tim McGraw]

Who's your vote?

[Bobby Bones]

I'm going to stick with Josh Allen. I just, I just. He performed at such a high level throughout the course of the year. They are where they are because of his play. And also without him, I don't think they might be a.500 team.

[Tim McGraw]

I agree with you and I also pick Josh Allen. But I get annoyed for Lamar in the people aren't going to vote for him because he's won it before and won last year and like that should not be a part of the conversation.

[Bobby Bones]

Should never be where he won.

[Tim McGraw]

So he wouldn't win. He shouldn't win again. I think that's the most loser mentality, right? Like if it, it's like when they wouldn't give Belichick coach of the year because he'd won it so many times or Angelina Jolie, hottest person alive, People magazine gives like three they wouldn't give it to ever again because she'd already had it. Let's, let's give people the awards they deserve, even if they deserve it every year until someone else wins. But I do think Jock, for the reason that you stated he just did not have the help got him the two seed and actually made them a lot better. It's like what Peyton Manning did with a lot of those guys, right?

[Bobby Bones]

Some of those games. I mean all these guys take over games. I think Lamar and Josh, the separator for them is their ability to take off and run the football and make plays when nothing else is there. And that's the most frustrating thing for any defense is when you're sitting there, you've got the perfect coverage called you've got it all taken care of. In any other ordinary quarterback or quarterback in the NFL, they. It's shut down, right? The ball you'd see there sack, you got to throw the ball away, do something like that where all of a sudden they scramble out, they make a play, they go take off for 30, 30 yards and just break a defensive spirit. And that's the special unique qualities that those two guys possess. And Joe Bur, don't get me wrong, not taking anything away from. He's just not the same athlete but he does it in a different way.

[Tim McGraw]

He threw for almost 5,000 yards.

[Bobby Bones]

It's absurd.

[Tim McGraw]

Had no defense.

[Bobby Bones]

No defense.

[Tim McGraw]

They had no. They had no defense. Like they had to outscore everybody. He had. His margin of error was so small because if he had a mid game, they for sure were going to lose.

[Bobby Bones]

Right? And they, I mean, they lost one game with a botched snap on a field goal for a game winning field goal. The New England game was the only game in which he really struggled where the offense didn't get going. Other than that, you go back, even the Kansas City Chiefs game early in the season, they throw up a prayer at the end of the game, the guy makes a contact, sets up the long field goal at the end of the game, they lose that game. So they lost. What were they early to start the season?

[Tim McGraw]

They had already one in four, I think.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, one in four.

[Tim McGraw]

And then it just got worse because they were like, well, you can't lose anymore.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, like, well, really, I can't lose anymore.

[Tim McGraw]

If any of those guys have that season, independent of the other two guys, they're all three the mvp. We're like, this is one of the greatest seasons in quarterback history. But all three are at the same time. It is the golden age. It's the redeemed team of quarterbacks.

[Bobby Bones]

It's unbelievable.

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[Matt Castle]

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[Tim McGraw]

There's a video from like two years ago, Tim McGraw and myself, we were in Vegas. It was a professional setting. I know I'm lucky enough to know Tim and Faith pretty well. He's awesome.

[Bobby Bones]

I have heard nothing but amazing things about him.

[Tim McGraw]

Yeah. And I didn't know him in his wild Tim McGraw days. I only, I only knew him when in his I'm going to be an adult and be really cool person days. Because some people, like, he used to go hard. Like, from what I hear, I actually.

[Bobby Bones]

Kind of want to see that side of it.

[Tim McGraw]

Me too. Well, that's the thing. I don't, I don't have the cool stories.

[Bobby Bones]

You don't want to bring it up, but at the same time, you don't want him to go back into that dark place.

[Tim McGraw]

Or maybe like him and Chesney punching horses and stuff. Like, I don't know that version. And people are like, oh, you know McGraw. What was. I know, super cool, super nice, extremely generous with his time. Tim McGraw. And it's really cool that I know him. So he came on. But he was a crazy athlete. But the story is we were in Vegas together. We're hanging out a little before we're doing something professional and we're about to go. It's a TV hit and I'm with Tim and I don't know one minute before Camry goes, dude. And it's on video. You see him take his fingers and put them into my nose and rip a nose hair out because it was a little longer than it should have been. Like, that's the kind of dude he is.

[Bobby Bones]

You can tell he's a meticulous dude when it comes to just prep and making sure he looks right and making.

[Tim McGraw]

Sure his boy looked good too.

[Bobby Bones]

He went, thank God he got that.

[Tim McGraw]

Hair, thumb and forefinger right into my nose hole. Didn't ask, didn't need to. Tim McGraw has permission to go into any hole of mine with any amount of fingers he wants wide open. So he went in. The video is hilarious. And he goes, boom. Rips it out. And I go. And they're like. And go. Then we're on. And that is my relationship with Tim McGraw and crazy athlete. We're going to talk about that. Here he is now, country superstar Tim McGraw. Hey, Tim, I didn't want to give all the details to Matt because I wanted you to do it because when you do it, it's awesome. Will you tell Matt. Let's start with your basketball career. Would you mind throwing some stats at Matt about your basketball career in high school?

Well, I know one particular stat you're talking about. I was a pretty good baller in high school, I think my senior year. And you know, you guys are a lot younger than me, so we didn't have three pointers when I was playing high school basketball, so. So my senior, I think I have. It was. Well, I know I averaged 28 points a game.

[Bobby Bones]

28.8.

[Tim McGraw]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I'd say that classifies as baller stats. Yeah. Yeah.

[Tim McGraw]

For a little guy. I mean, I'm. I'm under six foot. Well, right, you are six foot on your program. Five eleven, you know, regular. But. But yeah. And I had. I have one particularly good game where I scored 54. So that was my sort of highlight in high school.

Dude, that's great. Did you ever think.

But it wouldn't have. It wouldn't have done any good for us to have three pointers anyway. Cause I couldn't shoot from the outside to save my ass.

So we never practiced it though. Right? It's not. You say that, but imagine if there would have been a three point line and like you do everything else, you are a perfectionist in many ways. And I'm sure you Drive yourself crazy being such a perfectionist. Don't you know you'd have been in the gym for gym ratting it behind that three point line, Tim.

I would have, but I, I don't know that it would have done me much good because anything out of 15ft I've said very good. I like to slash and drive.

[Bobby Bones]

So you scored 54 points with no three pointers and all within the 15ft of hitting the basket. That's, that's incredible, actually.

[Tim McGraw]

You know, I might have stuck a 25 footer in there every now and then, but most of the time I'm slashing and driving. Yeah, you know, it's just one of those games, you know what I'm talking about, Matt, when you just. And you played ball too, Bobby. It's just, you know, one of those games where you sort of, just sort of battle your body. And I had the flu that game as well, and I thought I did poorly until I saw the scorebook.

Being from Louisiana, was there this Pete Maravich dream and you wanted to mimic that a bit.

Yeah, I mean, I grew up loving Pete, Pistol Pete, you know, and in fact, that, that was sort of my nickname at basketball camp at, when I went to basketball camp a couple years at Northeast Louisiana University, which is now University of Louisiana Monroe, and that's where I ended up going to college. But I went to basketball camp there and that was sort of my nickname was Pistol Pete. Not that I was playing as good as Pistol P. Because there were a lot better players than I was at that camp, just because I had the same sort of bold haircut back then.

[Bobby Bones]

Now, did you get recruited for anybody for basketball?

[Tim McGraw]

I did. I had, I had five or six good offers. I had offers in all three sports, five or six good ones in basketball. But like I said, when I graduated high school, I was probably 5, 10, barely and 140 pounds, so there wasn't much, much use for me except for probably meet on the practice squad.

Okay, give us your other high school career highlights. You said three different sports. I'm assuming baseball, football, basketball. Because I'm from the South. That's really the only three we had. It wasn't like we had lacrosse.

[Bobby Bones]

He was the first one to break through in volleyball.

[Tim McGraw]

Yeah, you're like, give us your high. Give us a basketball high or a baseball highlight and a football highlight.

Let's see a football highlight. Well, my second game in high school, I got concussed on the first play. I was wide receiver. I was playing in a tight formation and gap blocked on the defensive tackle, running back came through the hole and hit me in the head with his shoulder. So I was concussed for the rest of the game. But I got two interceptions and three touchdown receptions, so I don't remember any of it.

[Bobby Bones]

He had 54 points on the flu. With the flu. Yeah. He gets a concussion and he just balls out of his mind. Two interceptions. Unreal.

[Tim McGraw]

All right.

Baseball, baseball. My last time at bat in high school baseball, I hit a home run my very last time up. That's sort of my walk off baseball career right there.

[Bobby Bones]

That's it. I mean, is there anything better than to close out a career?

[Tim McGraw]

Well, now you're going to get calls from all my high school buddies, say, you know, he's exaggerating. You know, that was 24 points when he was 22. Now that he's, now that he's 57, it's 54 points. So, you know, it grows exponentially.

[Bobby Bones]

I love it. You get, get a little bit more every, every single time that you get a little bit older. Yeah.

[Tim McGraw]

You know, and luckily there's no Internet back then, so.

That's true. But, but then if there were, you could have been recruited, you'd have been a four star for sure. Like all three. Even ATH and just an athlete. They wouldn't know what to do with you.

Yeah, I mean, look, luckily I grew a couple inches around 20 years old. But here's what I always say, because baseball was probably my best avenue because of my size. But I always say that had I grown a couple extra inches in high school, it would have been a big curse for me because I probably would have been stuck in AA ball for about 10 years and then ended up not having anything to do with my life except for, say I played double A ball. Yeah, that.

[Bobby Bones]

Double A, that lifestyle.

[Tim McGraw]

Yeah. It was a blessing that I didn't grow till later.

I would say the minor league ball lifestyle and the musician lifestyle though, like, are very similar because it's really hard to make it to the pros. It's really hard to actually have a little extra money, just period doing something creative like being an artist. I would say both of those are professions I would never want my kids to do unless they just demanded they had to do it.

Yeah. Unless it's just something that you just can't talk them out of.

For sure.

I mean, and look, you know, in this bit, as you know, in this business, it, that's a very good comparison of playing minor league ball and then hoping to make it to the majors. One day, because that's what we were doing. We were playing clubs back in the day when we were in a van pulling a U haul all over the country and playing in all these 500, 600 seat clubs and, you know, just hoping to have a chance to. To play a bigger club is all we were hoping back then. And then certainly it was a pipe dream deal, even get a record deal and have something happen after that. So knock on wood, it worked out. I'm glad I picked this profession as opposed to trying my hand at minor league baseball.

[Bobby Bones]

Now, in terms of just where your influences came from, music, and when did you start playing music and the passion that you have for it? Because obviously we're listening to everything that you accomplished from a sports standpoint. But when did music come to the forefront for you?

[Tim McGraw]

Well, I was always loved music. I mean, even as a little kid, I knew every song on the radio. My mom really loved music, and my mom played music all the time, and she would sing with every song on the radio, and we would sing together as we were driving around. I remember like three or four years old singing every song on the radio along with her. So I always loved music. And, you know, I was in a couple of plays in high school and sang and sang in church a lot. And then when I got into college, you know, then I got into sports all through high school. And then I got into college and I actually, my freshman summer of college, I went to a pawn shop and pawned my high school ring and bought a guitar. And then I taught myself to play guitar over the summer and ended up with about 50 songs and started playing at a catfish house for tips with just me and the guitar. And that was. And after that, it was just. There was no going back. That's all I wanted to do from that point forward.

Did you get the ring back? We got to know that. Did you ever go back and rebuy the ring?

My grandfather went back and got the ring for me.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Tim McGraw]

So I did get it back.

[Bobby Bones]

That's unreal because.

[Tim McGraw]

And I only got 25 bucks for it.

What they. What'd they give you for it?

[Bobby Bones]

A ukulele?

[Tim McGraw]

A guitar that was about 25 bucks, but worth. Was. Was about. Worth 10.

Yeah, that's what I thought.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Tim McGraw]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, I just can't believe that he taught himself how to play the guitar on his own. Because, you know, with all the apps nowadays that can kind of teach you how to play the guitar, I have one, and I still can only riff about three different songs. That's about all I can do. I don't know if there's a disconnect between my brain and my left hand, but it's just not working for me right now.

[Tim McGraw]

Well, you haven't. You obviously haven't heard me play guitar because I'm not that great. I learned just enough to write songs and know that the chicks dug it.

What was. What was it about you? Or what was it that you wrote? Or what song was it that made somebody pay attention to you going, we can actually make some money with him. It could have been like, you're touring, you're a fan base. A song you wrote, you singing, like, what was the first thing that you did that actually made someone go, we think we want to put some money behind this guy?

I think it was probably us playing live because we played down at Printer's Alley all the time. When I first moved to Nashville, a place called Skulls Rainbow Room. It's still there, but it's a whole different vibe than it used to be. So I was part of. Part of the house band. There was a guy named Jimmy Snyder, and so I was playing there every night and a couple of guys came in to see me. And I think it was more just the way we performed live. Not so much as great singing or great songs or anything like that. I think it was just our energy that we had live. And I had scraped up enough money and had enough musician friends. I did this showcase at a place called diamond in the Roof that used to be down on Broadway years ago. And I think I had like a 10 piece band. All of my friends were playing and I invited everybody in town and Byron Gallimore called me back to come visit with him. And he became my producer and still is my producer. And he took me to Curb Records, he and James Stroud. And that's how I got my record done.

[Bobby Bones]

It's unbelievable because I've actually been to one of your concerts. I was in Kansas City and I remember I was down in the facility one day and it's before the day of the concert, and I walked down. I think it might have been a Saturday or something like that. And you're in the weight room getting after it. I mean. And so I walk in and I just see this guy and he's ripped up, he's got his cutoff shirt. I think you were wearing a bandana on your head. And I asked my strength and conditioning coach, I said, hey, coach, who is that? He's like, dude, that's Tim McGraw. He's getting after it, I was like, I can see that. I mean, is that something that you do on tour? Is that something that. Because I know, obviously you're always in shape every time I've ever seen you, but is it something you go around and anytime you can get a workout in, you do?

[Tim McGraw]

Yeah, it's part of the routine every day.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Tim McGraw]

And most of the band guys, too. It's just part of our everyday routine, and it's been that way for, gosh, 15 years now. We don't feel the same if we don't get a workout in during the day. And we have a gym that travels with us, and it looks like a prison yard out by our bus. We have ropes and chains and tires and everything outside the bus. And so we. We get in two or three workouts a day when we're on the road.

All right, let's get it. Let's get this.

And it keeps us out of trouble.

[Bobby Bones]

Put it.

[Tim McGraw]

For a lot of reasons.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Tim McGraw]

Yeah.

It feels time.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Tim McGraw]

Right. And you're on the road. There's a lot of freaking time. Okay, we're gonna get personal here and see how you feel about this. Last season, lsu, Brian Kelly. I don't know. A lot of people have a lot of stuff to say. Tim, what do you got to say?

I don't know, man. I. Look, that's just such a tough gig anymore to coach college players. I think with all the new money coming in and these guys don't want to listen. Don't want to listen. I don't want to put anybody down. I'm not trying to say that college players don't listen because I don't know them that well. But I can imagine trying to be a college coach where you used to have a complete control and everybody doing exactly what you say and when you say to do it, how you say to do it. And then you got these guys now that are. Not that I'm against them being able to eat and make. It's not that I'm for or against any of that stuff. It just seems like it makes the job of coaching tougher in that environment, because it's tough enough in the NFL when you're dealing with grown men with careers and making business decisions every day about their career and how long they're going to be around and the things they're going to do and what's good for them, what's good for their body, what's good for the team. That calculus and that alchemy, that all comes into effect. I just Think that it makes it really tough to coach college college football these days. And it takes a really strong personality to go in there and do that. Brian Kelly's a great coach now. Who knows if his style is going to work with a team like LSU or not?

[Bobby Bones]

It is wild. I wouldn't want to be a coach right now in college football. With the nil, the transfer portal, you have to recruit people. You go in the ni. I mean, in the transfer portal to recruit more guys to come in. But in addition to that, you got to recruit your own players. Every single year, these guys come in and say, hey, Coach, look, if you want me for the bowl game, I'm going to. I'm going to need another 200 grand. You know, like, that's. That's the nature of the beast now, right?

[Tim McGraw]

And how do you do that as a coach and how do you. How do you do that as a coach and how do you do as. As an organization and a coach organization and still be able to layer your game plan down, put these guys in a position to win, put these guys in the right mindset to win, make these guys play as a team. It's just tough all the way around. And look there. It's. People are going to evolve with it. Coaches are going to evolve with it. Coaches are going to learn how to do it in a different way, I'm sure. But there is a curve that's going on right now.

I don't want to reveal the great mighty eyes. So if this is a secret that you don't feel like sharing, I'll. I'll start. If I'm doing a standup show at a theater or even in my television contracts, if Arkansas is playing football and I am working, or if it's a night game, I'll have a small screen on a monitor. I will have. And because I can't watch a game, recorded doesn't exist. A recorded game I cannot go to afterward because I can't. It's on my phone everywhere. So I will have a monitor at all times so I can watch the game if there is a big LSU game. Tim, and you are on stage, how are you getting information fed to you?

Through my ears, through my inner monitors. My. My guy Heath on the sides, always telling me the score. And he also used to do that when my kids were in high school and one of my daughters was a cheerleader. So we went to all the high school games and we were really invested in Emsworth High School football, so we tailgated it all. So when I was when I happened to be on stage and there was a game going on, I was getting fed scores right in the middle of songs. So if I dropped the word now, I mean, it's because I was happy about the score.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you have an NFL team as well? I mean, obviously, your ties to Nashville, maybe the Titans, but I don't know. I mean, who's your. Who's your NFL team?

[Tim McGraw]

I root for the Titans, of course, because of being in Nashville. And I. And I root for. For the Eagles because I have two brothers that live in Philly. And my. Course, my dad played ball in Philly and spent a lot of time there, and I grew up in Louisiana, so I'm still a Saints fan at heart as well.

I'm going to throw Matt under the bus just a little bit, but I don't know if he's gonna say anything about it since you're here, but he was. Before you came on. I was actually telling him, like, Tim's like a normal dude. Like, love hanging around Tim, Love hanging around his wife. Like, they're like as normal people as he can be. And he is, like, he's such a good actor.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, yeah.

[Tim McGraw]

And, like, he brings it up out of it, so I'm gonna let him take it from here. But he was saying that, and I just want him to say it to your face.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, I'm not gonna lie. I. I love your music. But then when I watched 1883 and I saw you out on that screen, and you've done a number of different things I've been impressed with. But you're as good of actor as you are a performer and singer. I mean, it's incredible what you did. You. Is it something that just came naturally for you? Because I think that that would be difficult. But that role, it was such an intense role. You had such a pivotal role in just the overall show. It was incredible.

[Tim McGraw]

Oh, thank you, man. It was a lot of fun to do that. You know, I grew up riding horses and being in that world, so for me, it was playground all day, every day. Just being able to go out and do the stunts and ride wide open and wrote things.

It was.

It was a lot of fun. And in faith, learned how to drive those wagons really, really good. I mean, she's actually driving the wagons through the river. And those were old, original wagons. There was nothing modern about them. So she really did a good job learning that. As far as the acting stuff, you know, it's. It's one of those things that if you're in the entertainment business in general and being a musician and you have some success, those things start coming to you. You start getting chances to do that. And. And early in my career when I had some success, I was getting some opportunities to do some acting, but I wasn't ready for it. What I didn't want to do is, you know, have my career going really well and then go try something new and really suck at it and then ruin my other career because that's the last. I mean, because then it takes away everything cool that you have going on if you go and be really uncool and suck at something else. And so I wasn't going to do it for a long time. And then somebody sent me the script for Friday Night Lights and I read the script and instantly it registered to me. With all the athletics that I grew up with and all the sports I grew up doing and all the dads that I saw around, I knew that guy, I seen that guy or, or a conglomeration of that guy at every ball game I was ever at, and it just struck me instantly. So I. I know that guy. I can play that guy. And I went and auditioned and got the role for it. I'm glad I did because that turned out to be an incredible experience and a great movie.

[Bobby Bones]

How did you.

[Tim McGraw]

How did you feel about watching yourself back? And then what about like, you watch it as like game tape and I could do this better. I could do that better.

Yeah. Well, I don't like to watch myself back at all on special movies because all I see is me trying to play somebody else. But that's because I know me so well and I know what I'm doing stuff that nobody else will notice, but I notice that I'm doing it. So I try to. I don't watch, like, for instance, a movie called Four Christmases. I've never seen. Never, never, never seen it. A couple of reasons. For the main reason, I think I was £215 when we shot that movie. And my kids were little and we went to the theater to watch some Christmas movies. And me not thinking at all anything about the Four Christmases movie that I'd shot. And sure enough, the first trailer that popped up on the screen was the Four Christmases movie in my face. And my face looked like a Macy's Thanksgiving Day balloon. And my daughter looked at me and says, geez, dad, you got to do something. And from that point, that's when I started getting in shape. You're talking about getting shape and getting a gym and hustling every day before a show. That's when it started, is when my daughter saw my face on the screen for four Christmases and said that to me.

[Bobby Bones]

You should have just said, hey, look, the camera adds 15 pounds, honey. Like, I'm good. I don't have to kill myself every day. I'm just. It adds a little. A little weight. Okay, back off.

[Tim McGraw]

If my kids weren't so smart, I would have said that.

Well, we love you, buddy. Thank you for coming on and being on with us and can't say enough great things about you behind your back. So all this stuff in front of your back, you know, it's real too. So, Tim, good to see you and hopefully I'll see you around soon. And I'm glad you and Matt can meet because Matt's a big fan too.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, Tim, thank you so much.

[Tim McGraw]

All right.

[Bobby Bones]

Pleasure.

[Tim McGraw]

Matt, good to meet you. Bobby, we'll see you down the road.

All right, buddy. See you later, y'all.

Take care.

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[Tim McGraw]

You know what's weird about the iPhone is that I texted you and you text me back. Now I don't know if you have the update but like all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like it's all colored. They changed it and the. The heart's a little pink. So you had sent me a.

[Bobby Bones]

It's very pink.

[Tim McGraw]

You'd send me a message and I hard because there's certain things you thumbs up and you like and there's some things like, oh, like I appreciate that. Which is more than a thumbs up. And I gave you the. I appreciate that. But the heart was a little pink to feel. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm going to be honest, it was a little pink.

[Bobby Bones]

There was something sentimental when you, like when, when you send it, you, it's like, do I send the heart now?

[Tim McGraw]

I don't like the color edition.

[Bobby Bones]

It's extremely pink. And you're just like, I still know if that's gonna go. I'm gonna just continue the thumbs up.

[Tim McGraw]

Well, and our relationship is still new. Like, we just, like, we just started dating. You know, you don't, you don't just throw the O word around that. And so I just want you to know my pink heart was just like, hey, I appreciate that.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm gonna pink heart you and say I love you so much.

[Tim McGraw]

Hey, you know what's cool about the phone now in the update is that you can send texts. Timed meaning.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, really?

[Tim McGraw]

Well, so my problem is I wake up at 3:34 in the morning every day, right. And so, and that's brutal and I hate it. But if people text me at like 10:30 at night, I'm not awake.

[Bobby Bones]

No.

[Tim McGraw]

So when I wake up and I see it, I can't text them back at 3:30 because they're asleep and I don't want to risk waking them up.

[Bobby Bones]

You should even.

[Tim McGraw]

I, I hear you. And everybody should have do not disturb on. But I can't control everybody. If I could, this world will be awesome. However, you can now write a text and do the and say send at 9:00am really? Yes. That is revolutionary. I'll take the pink heart for the. Send the text at the time.

[Bobby Bones]

It's. It's fascinating. Like the technology nowadays and all the different little elements they come up with. And I need to go through like the programming and figure out how to do all that stuff because I'm not technologically savvy.

[Tim McGraw]

I only see my stuff on TikTok and then I learn it. Are you even on TikTok?

[Bobby Bones]

No, I'm not.

[Tim McGraw]

I gotta get you there.

[Bobby Bones]

Get me there. I'll do some dances.

[Tim McGraw]

No, see, that's. Whatever. It's not Dan. See, Tik Tok has for me, it's. My Tik Tok world is mostly 90s wrestling.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, that's so good.

[Tim McGraw]

And that's, that's what it feeds me, obviously. Sports, a little bit of music, and then every once in a while like a funny hawk to her when she's like saying something funny.

[Bobby Bones]

But mostly it's like 90s funny.

[Tim McGraw]

Yeah. It's like 90s wrestling, but, okay, you don't.

[Bobby Bones]

I've got. Now I'm. I'm raising daughters in that world, and every time I turn around with their friends and stuff, and they're. They're trying to do a dance, and I'm like, what are you guys doing? And they're like, so. And so has TikTok, because I won't let my kids have TikTok, but they're doing a TikTok dance. So I always associate it with that and the adolescence of it all.

[Tim McGraw]

Yeah, I'm. I'm all against adolescence in general, so that's not why I'm there. I want everybody to know that, you know, I'm. For me, don't need to be there. Final question before we wrap this segment. Did you hate quarterback sneaks? I feel like that hurts.

[Bobby Bones]

You know what? I hated quarterback sneaks when it was third and one, fourth and one, and everybody knows you're going to quarterback sneak because you have to change your feet, right? You change your feet, you kind of brace yourself for contact and you push. And the linebackers always came and just tried to decapitate you.

[Tim McGraw]

And. And that would be the question, like, did you hate them when they knew it was coming?

[Bobby Bones]

Like, that's what I'm saying. You would sometimes have these third and two plays or something like that, and you'd come up or even second, second and one, where you're getting down there. And we always had the ability. Where we call dog dog, and it would be on the next sound, right? And they would say, you've got two open a gaps. I'm gonna take. I can get one or two yards, get the first down, extend, drive, whatever. But when you get down there and you know it's third and one, and they know it's third and one, and you're like, that's something that you do. You're like, oh, God, all right, let's just suck this one up. And. And you snap it and you just get slaughtered. And some of them hurt. Some of them are more of a glancing blow, but you know you're going to get hit. And then I. You can't complain because you're running back back there, gets 25 yards, 25 carries a game, and he gets demolished and keeps getting back up. Come to the huddle.

[Tim McGraw]

He's built for that, though.

[Bobby Bones]

I know that. You know, Belichick always used to say when I would take off and run, especially when I was younger, and he'd be like, castle luck. Do you think we Want you running the football. No, we don't want you. We pay this guy your running backs and you start naming off all the running backs. We pay them to run the football. Don't run the football. Throw the thing away and live for the next day. I was like, okay, would you ever.

[Tim McGraw]

Get a backup or third string center? And you're like, this is not going to be my day.

[Bobby Bones]

It's my worst nightmare. It's. And it wasn't even just the quarterbacks need because those are pretty aggressive for him too because he knows there's a nose guard usually over his face where he knows that the snaps got to be clean. And so he's. It's got, it's a difficult job. But when you had a backup center in the game that you haven't got a lot of reps with it, there's nothing more embarrassing for a quarterback than to fumble a snap. And we still see it. It's the most elementary part of the game, right? You do it when you're a young kid, you take the snap from, from center. But when all of a sudden you're a little bit off with your hand placement and you haven't got a lot of reps, oh my gosh. That and then add on rain. One game, Ryan Lilja, our guard had to get moved to center and it was raining against San Diego. We fumbled the first two snaps. It was. I was like, please Lord, so please help me.

[Tim McGraw]

There is something to having repetition with the center. Like every snap or is every center. Because I've also friends with long snapper. But, but every center is different.

[Bobby Bones]

Every center is a little bit different. They have a different feel. The way the ball comes up, the, the velocity in which it hits your hands. And if sometimes when you get a center that maybe is not on task as much they you, you know, you're down here with this, with your hands like this. They shoot your hands and then it'll.

[Tim McGraw]

Go right through your head between like your.

[Bobby Bones]

Because it won't hit. It won't hit your palm up top, which that's really the aiming point. But then also the. Just the length of their arm changes where they hit on their butt, right? So some centers you want to get way underneath there. Other centers you can go further back because they got longer arms and that's just where they like to naturally hit you. So that's what I'm talking about. It's just these subtle changes that make all the difference.

[Tim McGraw]

That's why I wouldn't be an offensive line coach. I'd Be an offensive coordinator. Because I didn't know that.

[Bobby Bones]

See that?

[Tim McGraw]

I'll admit, I didn't know the length of the arm. Center.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Tim McGraw]

Makes a difference.

[Bobby Bones]

And there's nothing worse than when they forget that we're doing a double cadence. And they snap the ball when you're not ready for it and it jams your middle finger and you feel like you broke all the fingers in your hand. That's awesome, too. And then you got to jump on it and go, oh, coach, that was my fault. Coach, that was my fault.

[Tim McGraw]

Yeah, I would not. I would quit my offensive coordinator duties.

[Bobby Bones]

No, you definitely just mf us the entire time.

[Tim McGraw]

Yeah, I'm already there. I already did that from home. I do that from home. And I'm like, wow, why are you so stupid out there? Literally never played it down of professional football. So this is going to be called confirm or deny. I'm an uneducated with massive opinion person.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, Confirm or deny. Got it.

[Tim McGraw]

You are a wildly educated when it comes to NFL and you can confirm my opinion or you can deny my opinion.

[Bobby Bones]

I think this is going to get.

[Tim McGraw]

Really interesting, and my feelings will always be hurt. All right, here we go. Number one, Will Levis is a bad quarterback. Confirm or deny.

[Bobby Bones]

Came strong with that right off the bat. I will confirm that.

[Tim McGraw]

Now. That.

[Bobby Bones]

Now, now. That doesn't mean that I can't explain myself. Right.

[Tim McGraw]

I hope you do because. Because I have thoughts, too, and I'm sure they're wrong. Go ahead, though.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, some of it has to do with right now, the situation of the offensive unit, offensive line struggles, the weapons that they have on the outside. I know they went out and got Ridley, but he doesn't have a number two or a number three guy that he really can depend on. And part of this also is him growing up in the NFL with a bad team. And it's tough. There's a lot of stress with that. In addition to that, you have to play damn near perfect because your defense is giving up a lot of points. You have to score consistently because you're probably playing from behind. And then when you're not protected, the sense of urgency for a quarterback goes off. Right. And so you're getting rid of the ball when you shouldn't or you're trying to make a play you shouldn't. Like you saw early in the season with the lateral, the. The bad interceptions, you know, where you're forcing things that other lot otherwise you wouldn't do as a quarterback. So. But if you're going to look at it Statistically, turnover issues, all that, I would have to confirm that.

[Tim McGraw]

So then you would say he. So I say Will Levis is a bad quarterback, but you would say Will Levis is a bad quarterback, dot, dot, dot. But his potential is blank.

[Bobby Bones]

His potential is blank. I believe that his potential is that he can become a solid quarterback in the NFL. And the reason I say that is you'll see him make the wild throw and there'll be sequences throughout the course of a game where you'll have nine completions in a row, and then he'll make the big mistake. And the biggest thing for any quarterback is you just can't put your team in a bad situation. And by that I mean turn over the ball, give him a short field. Even when you go back early in the season against Chicago, Chicago had like just over 100 yards in that game offensively, and the Tennessee Titans lost that game. And part of it was because of his turnovers. And so he's got to learn. And I think that that's what the Tennessee Titans are doing right now. They've got to find out if he's the guy for the future, if they see development. And I believe he has gotten better throughout the course of the year, but they have to make a decision, too, moving forward. Is this the guy? Because we're going to have to build around him this offseason and do we believe he's the guy or do we have to go out and look for somebody else?

[Tim McGraw]

Do you think he will be with the Titans next year?

[Bobby Bones]

I do. I still think he's on a rookie contract that's favorable to them. So even if they go out and get a veterans prep, veteran presence, bring them in to compete for the job and be a guy that maybe sits there and learns behind a veteran, they have the ability to do that because his contract's not so out there and huge. Look at you. Look at me.

[Tim McGraw]

Positive and educated. You know, that's the two things we like. See, I'm uneducated.

[Bobby Bones]

No, I mean, because I think a lot of times we pigeonhole these quarterbacks when they're not having really good years or they're having a down year. But you have to look at it holistically. You can't take this micro approach and say, oh, well, he's the reason why, because the quarterback's going to get most of the credit when things go well. They're going to get a lot of the credit when things go bad. And it's. It doesn't always tell the story because there's so many different factors to not only being a good team, but also being a good quarterback. You have to have the surrounding pieces because, no, I don't care who you are. If you put Patrick Mahomes on a really, really bad team, you'll see him struggle at times.

[Tim McGraw]

I will say Will Levis looks better than any football player in their uniform in the NFL, period. He's ripped.

[Bobby Bones]

He is.

[Tim McGraw]

No, he looks the best.

[Bobby Bones]

The dude's jacked.

[Tim McGraw]

I saw him this Saturday. We were in the same place. I was getting some treatment done. I'd been a little something and he was getting some stuff done and I saw him and I think he's been garbage as a quarterback. I'm not saying he will always be garbage, but he's been garbage in my uneducated opinion. And. But I've said it a few times and I thought, well, if Will Levis comes up to me and says, hey, have you been saying I'm garbage? What I would say I want to be prepared because I don't.

[Bobby Bones]

The most awkward situation when somebody calls you out, so.

[Tim McGraw]

And I don't want to be the guy. It's like, no, I didn't say that, because I did. That doesn't mean as a person, but for me, just watching on tv, it's been really bad. And the Titans have also been really bad.

[Bobby Bones]

Right.

[Tim McGraw]

And so I thought if he comes up to me and he says, were you saying I was garbage? My response was going to be this. What would you say about if I. If you were me watching you on television? And I think he'd have probably been like that same.

[Bobby Bones]

That's strong. Strong comeback right there.

[Tim McGraw]

I was prepared for that. I was ready, though. Just in case.

[Bobby Bones]

Am I going to confirm or deny that? Yeah, that's going to be a tough one.

[Tim McGraw]

All right. Confirm or deny. McCarthy's a good football coach in Dallas. He's a good football coach.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm going to confirm that McCarthy is a good football coach. His track record speaks for itself. This guy won a Super bowl with the Green Bay Packers. Now, some of the decision makings, that decision making that he's had throughout his tenure with Dallas, and I'm talking mainly situational football into the game stuff where you should take a timeout or you shouldn't take a timeout, stuff like that, have been a little bit concerning, maybe lost an edge at a certain point. But then again, when you look at this team, they've also been devastated with injury as well. When you're. I played for the Dallas Cowboys. When you're there. Everybody watches you, whether you're good or bad. But every year, the expectation is super bowl or bust.

[Tim McGraw]

I like McCarthy. I'm not a Cowboys fan, but I like McCarthy. And I think, you know, his contract's up this year. I think. I think they give him another year. Unless they for sure can get, like, a variable.

[Bobby Bones]

Right. You'd have to get a brand name and somebody also that fits into that world. Because Jerry. This organization's run by Jerry Jones, and you have to have a relationship with him, and you have to take the good and the bad. Like, when we were done with games, this is the only place I've ever been that this happened. That Jerry Jones would speak to the team before Garrett would speak to the team. Like, I've never had an owner come in after a game and be the first one to speak, but you just. It's understood. And I'll tell you what, he's an incredible owner. He'll do anything for his team, but he wants to win, but everything goes through him. So sometimes I think that head coach ownership relationship gets a little bit blurred. Because of that reason.

[Tim McGraw]

I am extremely biased. And again, not a Cowboys fan. However, I emailed the Dallas Cowboys. Next thing you know me, my buddy Eddie, who's a Dallas Cowboys fan, we're in Jerry's chopper with Jerry.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Tim McGraw]

With the headset on. Jerry's, like, taking us through. We rent a suite. He, like, took. It was the greatest thing ever. I love Jerry Jones, and only. Cause he replied to an email and then let me come and do everything with him one day.

[Bobby Bones]

I love Jerry Jones. And it started when I got traded from the Buffalo bills, week three to Dallas. My wife was 34 weeks pregnant. So the next day, I jump on a plane, I get on Southwest and go to Dallas. But I was like, one of my concerns was getting my family to Dallas because she wasn't really supposed to fly. He's like, don't worry, Matt. I'll take care of it. He also. His first statement out of his mouth was, matt, welcome to the greatest franchise in all NFL. Like that. I was like, yes, this is awesome. But he sent a plane out to get my family in Buffalo. And he's like, be discreet about it. You don't need to tell anybody. Well, my wife walks up, takes a picture. It's got the huge Dallas Cowboy star on the side. I was like, that's not being too discreet. But I was so thankful because he's. He cares about his players, but he also cares about the families that are involved. Too, for these players.

[Tim McGraw]

That's like a dude who cares about dudes.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Tim McGraw]

And that's cool.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, and you could go into his office and talk to him anytime. And it's like talking to an old friend. And the stories that he has and just what he's been through in his life and his upbringing and then to make it to where he's been. He always loved football, but the Dallas Cowboys, they're his baby. And I mean, he's face one of the faces of the NFL and has been for a long period of time.

[Tim McGraw]

And Arkansas Razorback national champion.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, that's our.

[Tim McGraw]

That's our bond. That's why he let me come and do the thing.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, that makes more sense now.

[Tim McGraw]

All right, Confirm or deny? Trevor Lawrence is a really good quarterback.

[Bobby Bones]

Who I'm going to go with deny because he hasn't been able to prove that. And the whole thing. If you're going to say a quarterback's really good in the NFL, you have to have consistency. And I know what he came into with that organization and the coach getting fired with Urban Meyer halfway through the season and all that stuff, that's chaotic for anybody, especially a rookie quarterback who is seen as the savior of a franchise and he's got all the talent in the world. He was considered a generational talent when he was coming out, and deservedly so. The guy hadn't lost the game in college, I don't think. Maybe he lost one game in college, didn't lose a game in high school, and he was exceptional. But he hasn't consistently shown the ability to perform week in and week out. And that's an issue if you're going to say somebody's really good. In the NFL, you have to have longevity, you have to stay healthy, but in addition to that, you have to show that you can sustain success week in and week out.

[Tim McGraw]

He did win a playoff game.

[Bobby Bones]

He did. But you said really good quarterback. That's like upper echelon quarterback play. See, I've got an argument for it, at least.

[Tim McGraw]

No, you win again. I am the uneducated guy with a big opinion. And it's almost like whatever you say wins. I hate this game because whatever you say wins. So I'm listening. I'm taking notes over here.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, good. So there's no wins or losses.

[Tim McGraw]

You don't lose.

[Bobby Bones]

So I get a buy. I lose. I get a buy.

[Tim McGraw]

You get a buy.

[Bobby Bones]

I get a win.

[Tim McGraw]

All right, two more. Bryce Young can be a top 10 NFL quarterback.

[Bobby Bones]

I love the way he's responded this season, and I'll say yes to that. The reason is, is you find out more about the character of a player when he goes through the difficult adverse times and you talk about the low of lows. I've been benched before. It's brutal, right? You hear the noise. You're a guy that's come in. You're. You got drafted, what, Number one overall and struggled through his first season. Gets benched early in the year. And like, some people were writing him off already. But the way that he's played once he returned into the starting lineup, I've got a lot of respect for him. You can see the skill set, some click for him, and sometimes it is just stepping away and watching and absorbing and being around a veteran quarterback isn't. Is Dalton there?

[Tim McGraw]

He is there. Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. So Dalton's there.

[Tim McGraw]

And again, a car wreck. Which is why Bryce Young came back to start again after Dalton was in the car accident.

[Bobby Bones]

I didn't know that. That's wild.

[Tim McGraw]

He didn't die, so you're good. Thank God. Yeah, I just did. Yeah, he didn't die.

[Bobby Bones]

I was like, I think I would have heard that. Yeah. This became a little bit more tragic than just Bryce Young returning to the field, but just I think he's, he's been consistent. He's shown the ability to put his team in a position to win games even though they haven't won a bunch of these games. I just like the way that he responded, and I think that he's got a really bright future. It's taken him a little while to adjust to that game, and some of it has to do with when you come to the out of the college game, which is much different. You're never under center. You're always in shotgun. He's got some, he's got some issues in terms of just overall height and all those, but you can tell the dude plays at a high level when he's on, and he has done that throughout the course of the year.

[Tim McGraw]

Okay, last one. Confirm or deny? Tua is far better than people gave him credit for, as made apparent by him being gone and them losing way more than now. They're winning more than losing. Bad game last week, but let's say that didn't happen.

[Bobby Bones]

I'll confirm that. I mean, I, I, I believe Tua. Just look at his body of work going even back to college. And he's a guy that is understated in some ways just because of his personality. He's not real boisterous. He's not going to be in your face. But when he goes out on the field, he is a guy that knows the offense, gets rid of the ball, knows where his playmakers are and he elevates the team around him because we saw in his absence they lost what, four straight or something like that. And so now he comes back to the lineup after another concussion and has crushed really, until like you said last week. And you're going to have those games as a quarterback. I mean nobody walks in for 17 games straight and doesn't have that bad day. I mean there's too many good players on the opposite side of the ball where it's just not going well that day and you got to suck it up. But I believe that TUA is the franchise quarterback for that organization and fits the fits what they do offensively perfectly. Come on, hurry up.

[Matt Castle]

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[Tim McGraw]

Exciting getting into the playoffs this weekend. Question the Falcons did not make the playoffs. Kirk Cousins is not going to be the quarterback the Falcons next year. A question about being the quarterback when things aren't going right Cause Cousins I think was hurt. That's a crazy injury. The Achilles is a hard injury to bounce back from.

[Bobby Bones]

Really difficult.

[Tim McGraw]

Did you ever have Because I felt like there were times he wasn't able to throw the ball with as much velocity as he normally does. Obviously you need your legs to be able to do that. Did you ever have games and it could have been an injury or it just could have been you felt weird or just nothing went right.

[Bobby Bones]

100%.

[Tim McGraw]

You're just like what the heck is going on?

[Bobby Bones]

Well, it's one of those crazy dynamics as a quarterback, because you could be on a hot streak and then all of a sudden come into a game, utmost of confidence, and things just aren't going well. Like you come out for warmups, it might be the ball's not coming out of my arm, coming off my hand really well. And then all of a sudden you get in the game and it's one. One bad play early on or something like that, and it starts to unravel. Or it could be something as simplistic as a guy's got a crossing route, hits his hands, bounces up other team, grabs it, takes it back for a pick six, and you got a rally. And again, it's a game of ebbs and flows. But there's just some of those games where you can't pull yourself out of it. I was in Minnesota, we were playing the Patriots one year, and we went in that game feeling like we could compete against these guys. We go right down the field, first series score, touchdown. Boom. Okay, we're off to a good start. From that point on, it was a complete disaster. I tried to throw a post route down the middle. McCourty picks it off, come back, Reavis baits me, try to throw it over his head. Interception number two. Now I've got Cordell Patterson running in. Cut. He fades on his end. Cut. Gets undercut. Interception number three. Ball gets tipped up in the air off a defensive lineman's hands in. Interception number four. And you just leave there and you go in a locker room and you go, what the hell just happened? You know, and it's. It's a mental grind because those are the ones that you want to go put your head in a hole and not come out for a few days. But you've got to go rally yourself and pull yourself back out of it. But those are just days that happen in the NFL where you're just a little bit off and things don't go your well away. And there's enough good players on the opposite side to where if you make that minimal mistake, they're going to capitalize on it.

[Tim McGraw]

If I'm going to do the radio show in the morning or if I'm going to be on stage and like, I'm not feeling good or I have a sore throat, like nobody cares. And I don't talk about it, but I'd like for. I wish people knew that, man, I got a crazy sore throat. I don't say it, but I wish they knew that Maybe I'm not as funny or as active as I normally would be, but I'm hurt. But I haven't said anything because, again, nobody cares. Did you ever feel like you were mildly injured and you wanted everybody to know this is why you weren't it? But you. Nobody knew.

[Bobby Bones]

Guys, I suck today because I had a sprained mcl, and I can't tell you guys that and make an excuse.

[Tim McGraw]

Was that ever a thing where, like, you were kind of hurt?

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, a hundred percent all the time.

[Tim McGraw]

Nobody knew. And you're like, I just wish people.

[Bobby Bones]

Knew that I had a sprained ankle. One game, and you're out there and you tape it up, you shoot it up, but you're just not yourself. Like you said, you can't plant, you can't push off. And there's those moments, and you miss certain throws, you're high on certain throws, whatever it might be. And you're sitting there going, if they only knew. Or if I could answer this question appropriately and tell them, look, you jerks. Like, I'm sitting here, I'm playing in pain. I'm trying to get through this game, and that's why I missed that throw. It's not just because I suck. It's just I couldn't push off my back foot or something like that. But that's again, the same reason. What we had talked about in before is when somebody runs the wrong route and you throw an interception or when they're not at the right. Right depth, and you've got to wear that as a quarterback and just say, you know what? I've got to do a better job, make a better decision, and your teammates respect you. And there are also those games where you go out there and you don't feel your best and you're dealing with something, but you play out of your mind. And I had a game in Denver one year where I literally had a sprained ankle. My ankle was swollen up like this, went out, played, but I threw for 400 yards. I have no idea why. It was like, I was, like, super calm. I was just like, yeah, I'm just gonna let it rip. I stayed in the pocket the entire time. Maybe that was it. I wasn't overthinking things. I was like, I know I've got to be stationary, but I just gotta let it rip.

[Tim McGraw]

Are you hearing things in the pocket around. Are you. Do you hear that at all? Or is it. You're so active in trying to find.

[Bobby Bones]

Things, you're so focused on what you're trying to do. And go through reads and also see the defense at the same time that you know that there's just chaos always going around you. You're trained to deal with that. And you don't really hear what's going on. Now, after the play, when somebody hits you in your face and they want to talk smack to you, they definitely let you. You can hear that, right? But when a play is actually going on, there's so many different thoughts. Okay, motion. Do I have a check? Check with me is what we would call it. We got two plays in the huddle. Is the safety rotated down? Okay, I'm alert and alert. Alert, alert, alert. Hey. And then I might have to quicken up my cadence and go Omaha.

[Tim McGraw]

Set, go.

[Bobby Bones]

Which lets everybody know we're going on second sound. So there's so many components and so many different factors going on in your head that you don't have time to think about all the other different discussion. Now, the only time I'd listen to what the defense is saying is they would make subtle adjustments when you'd come to a bunch or a stack and you could see them communicate. Or sometimes they'd say, nail, nail, nail. Which to me was a box coverage. It went to a cover four. This guy had first to the flat. That was information that I wanted to gather because it would help me get through my read right now. And I'd get to the second or third guy in my progression immediately based on the route concept that we'd have called. And so a lot of that doesn't happens in film study, but as you are out on the field, a lot of times you can hear these guys communicating. And you'll see we're going to in and out this. We're going to stack it. We're going to play one on, one off, whatever it might be. And you see him start to communicate. That's the only thing that I was paying attention to.

[Tim McGraw]

Could you hear when you were about to get sacked?

[Bobby Bones]

You could feel it more than you'd hear it. And then it would happen pretty abruptly.

[Tim McGraw]

Feeling like, peripheral, like fe.

[Bobby Bones]

Occasionally you'd feel the peripheral, like where they're coming from behind, and you just kind of start to feel something, and then you pull that ball down. It just was. It was reactionary. It wasn't anything more than like, oh, gosh, I feel something and duck out of the way. And then the ones that you actually feel and probably hear a little bit more is. There was one time we're playing Green Bay, I was in Dallas, and Clay Matthews is lined up at the linebacker position. Like, look, this guy was versatile. He could play at the defensive end position, he could play off. But if he's off the ball, our running back is responsible to pick him up. So he comes running from like a six yard head start. And I'm waiting for our running back to step up and take him on because I know that he's blitzing, but if we're supposed to be picked up. And then I just hear him bearing down me, I'm looking to the left, I'm going, Seems like he's getting closer. He's getting a lot closer. And all of a sudden I look up and he's in my lap and just decle me. Takes me off my and lands right on my ribs. Knocks the breath out of me. And I'm looking over, I see my running back out in the flat and I'm like, bro, what the hell just happened? But it just was a busted protection scheme. But I could hear him, smell him, and feel him all at the same time.

[Tim McGraw]

You ever smell a cologne on a player sacking you?

[Bobby Bones]

No. You know, but was funny. We had a guy, Matt Light, who is our offensive tackle. Left. Left tackle in New England. And he used to always do this thing. He'd get this female cologne and he'd go through before. Yeah, perfume. Yeah, good, Good point. Really good point. He'd get perfume and he'd go before a walkthrough and just drench different guys jerseys. And so now all of a sudden we're coming out and Belichick's like, what the hell is that smell? What the f? And then we'd all get in the huddle like, what the hell? And people were cracking up because they know that light just drenched this guy's whole jersey in perfume. And you got to wear it during the entire practice. It was great.

[Tim McGraw]

Thank you guys for listening. Thanks to Tim McGraw, he's Matt Castle, I'm Bobby Bones. We had lots to say. We will see you guys again soon. Thanks, everybody. Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is a production of the NFL and iHeart podcasts. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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