Lots to Say: Super Bowl Champ Willie Colon and Grown Man Rules

Summary

Podcast Title: The Bobby Bones Show
Host/Author: Premiere Networks
Episode: Lots to Say: Super Bowl Champ Willie Colon and Grown Man Rules
Release Date: June 25, 2025
Description: Listen to 'The Bobby Bones Show' by downloading the daily full replay.

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1. Host Banter and Personal Updates

The episode kicks off with Bobby Bones engaging in light-hearted conversation with Matt Castle and Brandon Ray about enduring a recent heatwave. Brandon humorously describes himself as a "sweater," admitting, “[...] I walk outside and I just start dripping” (01:17). Bobby shares his attempts to stay cool by swimming laps in his pool, highlighting the isolating yet meditative nature of solo workouts in the water. He recounts his struggle with waterproof headphones, stating, “...as soon as I go under nothing and I come back out music” (02:12), ultimately giving up on the expensive gear.

2. Weather and Living Conditions Discussions

The conversation shifts to personal preferences regarding weather, with Brandon reminiscing about his time living in Minnesota, where he experienced extreme cold: “...negative 17. Real temperature. I mean, there was one day there were, the wind chill was negative 46” (06:18). Bobby contrasts this with his comfort in hotter climates, mentioning his time in Austin and expressing a desire to relocate during winter months. The hosts humorously debate the challenges of adapting to different weather conditions, emphasizing the stark differences between Southern California’s mild winters and Minnesota’s harsh cold.

3. NFL Ownership and Quarterback Decisions

Transitioning to NFL topics, Bobby introduces a discussion on Tom Brady’s reported influence as a minority owner of the Las Vegas Raiders. He references a Yahoo Sports report stating, “Tom Brady reportedly said no to the Raiders, adding Aaron Rodgers and Sam Darnold” (09:35). Brandon analyzes Brady's possible motivations, suggesting financial considerations and the desire to maintain team chemistry: “[...] he does have some weight to his name, doesn’t he?” (10:02). The hosts delve into the strategic decisions behind not signing Aaron Rodgers and Sam Darnold, weighing financial impacts and player fit within the team’s system.

4. Tom Brady’s Fanatics Games and Anecdotes

Bobby highlights Tom Brady's participation in Fanatics Games, where he emerged victorious, securing a $1 million prize: “Tom Brady emerged Sunday as the winner of the inaugural Fanatics games” (14:16). Brandon and Kevin share amusing anecdotes about Brady’s competitive spirit, including his failed attempts to identify Rob Gronkowski among imposters: “He walked out in the real Gronk, takes his helmet off and he’s like, ah, really?” (16:34). The discussion underscores Brady’s relentless competitiveness and his ability to excel beyond traditional football settings.

5. Player Contracts and NFL Updates

The conversation then shifts to Travis Hunter’s landmark four-year, $46.6 million contract with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Bobby notes, “Travis Hunter signed a four-year contract with the Jaguars” (18:43), highlighting the unique structure of the deal, which includes a fully guaranteed $30 million signing bonus. Brandon expresses anticipation about Hunter’s multifaceted role on the team and his potential impact across offense, defense, and special teams: “[...] what workload is going to look like for him because everybody’s anticipating him being that dude” (19:13).

6. Exclusive Interview with Willie Colon

a. Aaron Rodgers’ Potential Retirement and Rehabilitation

The highlight of the episode is an in-depth interview with Willie Colon, a Super Bowl champion and NFL analyst. Bobby begins by addressing Aaron Rodgers' rumored final season: “Is he saying it or does he mean it?” (22:51). Willie shares his perspective, viewing Rodgers as a “hired mercenary” aiming to secure his legacy by potentially retiring on a high note with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Willie delves into Rodgers' Achilles injury, comparing it to his own experience with a similar injury after winning a Super Bowl. He explains the extensive rehab process: “I tore my Achilles right after I won my Super Bowl. It took me six months… and it took me a full year to feel like I’m back to neutral” (26:01). Willie emphasizes the mental fortitude required to trust the rehabilitation process and regain confidence in physical abilities.

b. NFL Experiences and Rivalries

Willie reminisces about his intense rivalry with the Baltimore Ravens, describing encounters that were both physically and emotionally demanding: “I hated the Ravens because, first of all, the rivalry is real” (39:11). He recounts specific battles on the field, notably against linebackers like Lee Evans and Jared Goff, highlighting the mutual respect and relentless competition that fueled his performance: “We were just two bulls on the block” (40:22).

c. Personal Stories and Locker Room Anecdotes

Willie shares a unique personal habit of not wearing socks during games, a trait that became part of his NFL identity: “I don’t wear socks... I’m notoriously known for that, like, having the most stinkiest locker and stinkiest feet in the locker room” (37:16). He explains how this unconventional choice stemmed from discomfort with socks and evolved into a quirky aspect of his persona. Willie narrates an unforgettable matchup against a competitor who also didn't wear socks, illustrating the intense physicality and strategic play involved: “He closed slowly benching me off him, got me, and went ahead and made the play” (35:10).

7. Listener Q&A: Grown Man Sports Rules

The episode features an engaging Q&A segment where listeners ask, “At what age should a grown man stop doing this as a sports fan?” The hosts tackle various scenarios:

a. Wearing a Player’s Jersey Outside of Games

• Brandon Ray: Suggests stopping at age 25, arguing that post-college adults shouldn’t wear jerseys unless at sporting events (45:35).
• Bobby Bones: Raises exceptions for vintage jerseys as fashion statements but maintains the general cap at 32 (46:03).

b. Bringing a Baseball Glove to a Game

• Brandon Ray: Recommends stopping around age 22, unless accompanied by children, emphasizing practicality (50:03).
• Bobby Bones: Agrees, highlighting that proxies for youth engagement are acceptable.

c. Painting Faces in Team Colors

• Brandon Ray: Advocates stopping around age 22, associating face painting with younger fan behavior (51:05).
• Bobby Bones: Extends the age limit to 35, permitting group activities but discouraging solo face painting (51:28).

d. Bashing Athletes on Social Media

• Brandon Ray: Suggests ceasing around age 26, aligning it with legal adulthood milestones like renting a car (53:58).
• Bobby Bones: Reinforces the 26-year mark, arguing for maturity and responsible online behavior.

e. Crying After a Loss as a Fan

• Brandon Ray: Proposes stopping around age 6, viewing emotional displays as more appropriate for younger fans (61:28).
• Bobby Bones: Shares personal struggles with emotional expression, ultimately suggesting that adults should manage their emotions constructively (62:31).

8. Conclusion and Closing Remarks

The hosts wrap up the episode with light-hearted interactions, addressing listener comments and promoting a sense of community among fans. Bobby jokes about his emotional resilience, humorously noting, “I never cry because I'm an adult” (63:16), while Brandon and Kevin engage in playful banter about Bobby’s lack of visible emotional breakdowns. The episode concludes with a final nod to Willie Colon and well-wishes for the upcoming NFL season.

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Notable Quotes:

• Brandon Ray on Sweating: “I walk outside and I just start dripping.” (01:17)
• Bobby Bones on Swimming Headphones: “As soon as I go under nothing and I come back out music.” (02:12)
• Willie Colon on Aaron Rodgers: “I see Aaron Rodgers as a hired mercenary, right." (22:51)
• Brandon Ray on Funeral Crying: “You are a Pacers fan. Just loss.” (61:36)
• Willie Colon on Sock-Wearing: “I don’t wear socks. And so part of me reasons why." (37:16)

Timestamp Key:

• [00:00] - Start of Episode
• [01:17] - Discussion on Sweating in Heat
• [02:12] - Bobby's Swimming Routine
• [06:18] - Brandon's Experience in Minnesota
• [09:35] - Tom Brady’s Ownership and Quarterback Decisions
• [14:16] - Tom Brady’s Fanatics Games
• [18:43] - Travis Hunter’s Contract
• [22:51] - Interview Introduction with Willie Colon
• [26:01] - Aaron Rodgers’ Achilles Injury
• [35:10] - Willie’s Battle with Opponent
• [37:16] - Willie’s Sock-Wearing Habit
• [39:11] - Rivalry with the Ravens
• [40:22] - Willie’s Respect for Ravens Players
• [45:35] - Listener Q&A: Wearing Jerseys
• [50:03] - Listener Q&A: Bringing a Baseball Glove
• [51:05] - Listener Q&A: Painting Faces
• [53:58] - Listener Q&A: Bashing Athletes
• [61:28] - Listener Q&A: Crying After a Loss
• [63:16] - Bobby on Emotional Resilience
• [67:35] - Closing Remarks

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This episode of The Bobby Bones Show offers a mix of personal anecdotes, in-depth NFL analysis, an exclusive interview with Willie Colon, and interactive segments addressing fan culture. By intertwining humor with insightful discussions, Bobby and his co-hosts create an engaging narrative that resonates with both casual listeners and dedicated sports enthusiasts.

Transcript

[Bobby Bones]

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[Matt Castle]

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[Bobby Bones]

Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is a production of the NFL and iHeart podcast. We got lots to say.

[Brandon Ray]

We got.

[Bobby Bones]

Lots to say we're glad you're here and we hope you stay Cuz we got lots to say yeah, we got lots to say now here's Bobby and Matt. What's happening everybody? Matt, how are you, buddy?

[Brandon Ray]

Doing great. Just kind of taking this heat in, you know, the heat wave.

[Bobby Bones]

What's the first thing Matt said as soon as I laid eyes on him, he goes, how about this heat? Are you at that age? It's hot in here where it's always the weather?

[Brandon Ray]

Well, I'm a sweater, right? So I walk outside and I just start dripping. And I've been out in the heat all weekend for a kids baseball tournament. So it's. I'm just feeling it. I'm feeling it. Well, this is the first real heat wave that we've had.

[Bobby Bones]

Some people are just naturally sweaters. Like Brandon is a sweater. Because we will work out like three. Three of us over in the gym here on our property, and I sweat a normal amount. But Brandon, man, it's like, all right, warm ups. Brandon's just like drenched. But I think just naturally, some people are. Reed was like, that a crazy sweater. So that's you, huh?

[Brandon Ray]

Oh, that's me. I'd go through like two shirts in a workout session just because as soon as I. My pores open up, I am drenched.

[Bobby Bones]

Is it a hydration? Like, are you always on top of your hydration?

[Brandon Ray]

No, that's the issue too. I'm a cramper. Electrolyte me. IV me. Give me whatever I need. Yeah, I mean, honestly, I just, I. I'm. I'm a sweater.

[Bobby Bones]

I've been swimming the last few days. We got. Have a pool here. So I've been doing some laps in the pool. I did about close to half mile yesterday.

[Brandon Ray]

That's good.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, it's just very isolating yes.

[Brandon Ray]

You've in swimming though, by yourself too. It's something that you get in the pool, it's hard to do and just continue to swim laps, especially when there's.

[Bobby Bones]

Nothing in your ears. What I like about just working out in the gym or whatever is you can listen to music or if I'm just walking on the treadmill, you listen to a podcast. But when you're in the water, it's just you in the water. And I think there's probably something beautiful about that, but I don't like just being there with my thoughts. So I got online and I got on Amazon and I look for a pair of swimming headphones and they make them waterproof headphones and so they're not cheap and they kind of wrap around your head and they are kind of above the year, but they kind of fit just right. And I put them on in the house and sound great and I'm like, cool, jump in the water. Go on the water immediately. And as soon as I go under nothing and I come back out music. And I go back under nothing, I come back out music. And so I didn't short them out because it says they're waterproofing for swimmers. So I'm in the middle of swimming, so I'm just going to deal with it after. So I throw the headphones on top of the pool and then I swim. And I'll do, I do like series of laps. Like I have to keep my hit my mind stimulated. But so I'll do 14 laps, 12 laps, 10 laps, 8 laps, 6 laps, 4 laps, 2 laps. And I've done my workout. It's about a 45 minute swim workout.

[Brandon Ray]

That's a solid workout right there.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Brandon Ray]

Is it all freestyle or are you working a butterfly?

[Bobby Bones]

I don't swim well enough to know any of that. Yeah, I wish I did try to do. What's this one called?

[Brandon Ray]

Butterfly.

[Bobby Bones]

I tried the butterfly.

[Brandon Ray]

That'll work.

[Bobby Bones]

I did like three and I was like, I'm drowning.

[Brandon Ray]

I'm going to die. I'm going to die. Like your whole.

[Bobby Bones]

Were you ever a swimmer? How did you know all that stuff?

[Brandon Ray]

Oh, well, I just watched the Olympics. Yeah. Oh, you watch the Olympics?

[Bobby Bones]

Wait, you grew up swimming?

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah, I would swim all the time.

[Bobby Bones]

Like against people?

[Brandon Ray]

No. Hell no.

[Willie Colon]

Okay.

[Brandon Ray]

No, no, no.

[Bobby Bones]

Because we had like a lake. I mean, I could swim.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah, I could always swim, but my mom was a swimmer when she was younger, so like she taught us.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, that's cool.

[Brandon Ray]

You know, brushstroke and butterfly and all Those things.

[Bobby Bones]

I bet you've been a good one because you're just, like, long and athletic. You probably missed your calling.

[Brandon Ray]

I missed my calling for sure. But, I mean, after you listen to some of those guys in the workout regimen that they have in the morning routine.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Brandon Ray]

And mornings. Yeah, mornings. And they're in the pool for two hours.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Brandon Ray]

And it's just like, what in the world?

[Bobby Bones]

I. I always get water in my ear. I can't get it out. I did. That's why yesterday, I can't get the water out of my ear. Still, the best thing that I could do that I have done is take a hair dryer to it, my wife's hair dryer, and just hold it up to my ear and let it dry out. And that works, like, 75% of the time.

[Brandon Ray]

That can't be good for you. It cannot be good for you.

[Bobby Bones]

So these stupid headphones that I buy, I go back inside the house, and it's. Look it up, and it says, by the way, if you're gonna swim in these, Bluetooth doesn't work. And I'm like, well, what am I supposed to do? Apparently, it has an MP3 player built into the headphones, and you're supposed to take your MP3s Is this 2007? And drag them over to the headphone app. So I gave them my friend Eddie today, and I was like, you can have these. Absolutely worthless. It's been, like, 300 bucks on them.

[Brandon Ray]

You should give it to him and just be like, hey, they're great for swimming.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, he doesn't even swim. I know. It was so frustrating, but, yeah, first in the castle. Said, hot enough for you? Felt like we're like, the VFW were, like, 73 years old.

[Brandon Ray]

So, you know. Do you not feel like it's warm outside?

[Bobby Bones]

It's been raining so much. I'm just happy we have anything. It's not rain.

[Brandon Ray]

Okay. I'm good with that.

[Bobby Bones]

But.

[Brandon Ray]

So you're saying it's not hot. You're totally fine. You're wearing a sweater right now, long pants.

[Bobby Bones]

It's hot. But I'm fine with hot.

[Brandon Ray]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

For me, it will be difficult to live somewhere cold. So this is too cold for me to live in in the wintertime. And I grew up in Arkansas, so I grew up in a climate like this, but this is it. I can't go any more north. Where you have lived in northern places in the winter is Boston. Did you live in Boston with the Patriots?

[Brandon Ray]

Lived in Boston.

[Bobby Bones]

Is that the coldest freaking Place you can possibly live?

[Brandon Ray]

Not at all. Minnesota. It's like being on Mars, dude.

[Bobby Bones]

Really?

[Brandon Ray]

I mean, we. I got there in the first October, like the last day of October, we got our first snow. Snow never left the ground. When we got to December, we had two weeks in a row where there weren't highs above zero. They said a cold front's coming through. So I back up and everybody has the heaters in the garage. I was like, why does everybody have a heater in the garage? You start to realize why. I back up and I've never seen it drop below zero. And then all of a sudden it keeps going, it keeps. Stops at negative 17. Real temperature. I mean, there was one day there were. The wind chill was negative 46. And I was like, what is going on? How do people live here? And that winter goes all the way through April.

[Bobby Bones]

Did you kind of get used to it?

[Brandon Ray]

You kind of do. Just because you have to operate and be a human. And so you start going out and shoveling snow and you're. You just clothe yourself up. And the crazy part, people adapt to it so well that when it jumped up into like the teens and the twenties for the first day after the, that two week span, you see people outside running in shorts and I'm like, these people are savage, dude. They're savage.

[Bobby Bones]

Like a California guy like you and that cold.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah, man, just, you know, we're hardcore out there. In Southern California, we adapt.

[Bobby Bones]

No, in Southern California, you don't adapt.

[Brandon Ray]

You don't adapt to anything. You don't have to adapt to anything.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, that sounds miserable.

[Brandon Ray]

It was miserably cold. And even the kids, they would go to preschool and they'd have them bring all their snow gear. And every day, as long as it wasn't past negative 20 or something like that, the kids would put on their snow gear and go outside for recess. That's how they, they do it there. And I was amazed.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, that's tough. I. This is too cold for me. Not this second, but winters here are too cold for me.

[Brandon Ray]

Are you serious?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Brandon Ray]

It is not a cold winter here.

[Bobby Bones]

I would move.

[Brandon Ray]

Would you really?

[Bobby Bones]

Yes, in the winter I would move. I would move to Boca. Austin. Oh, my favorite city. I lived there for 12 years.

[Brandon Ray]

Oh, I didn't know you lived there for 12 years.

[Bobby Bones]

The entire, like, first part of my adult radio career when I built my syndication company was in Austin. I was doing pop and hip hop.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah, you were.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I was Captain Caucasian man. Yeah. Where's the coldest place you ever live? Kevin here. Yeah.

[Kevin]

Live wise. Yeah. Cuz California, Southern California Northern. And I'm with you. Where? This is the coldest I could ever go.

[Bobby Bones]

It sucks.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Brandon Ray]

It's not even that cold in the winter, guys.

[Kevin]

It's not that cold.

[Bobby Bones]

You've lived in Minnesota. I can see how it's not even that cold.

[Brandon Ray]

40, 30s, every now and then, blue moon, you'll get 20.

[Bobby Bones]

And that sucks.

[Brandon Ray]

That sucks for the day.

[Bobby Bones]

That sucks. Can't even play pickleball in the backyard.

[Brandon Ray]

I love in the south too, how the entire community and city shuts down when a cold front like, oh, we're gonna get freezing rain. And the roads are all terrible and they don't have the infrastructure to clear them there. In Minnesota, there wasn't a day where I'd wake up and couldn't drive on.

[Bobby Bones]

The roads because they have the infrastructure. Yeah, we don't have. Why would we invest a bunch of money in that if it happens like twice a year?

[Brandon Ray]

I don't know. Well, maybe people need to get to work.

[Bobby Bones]

Maybe that's what it is. More getting to work. Less being cold, more getting to work. You heard it here.

[Kevin]

It sounds like he's from Minnesota.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Like he really is offended by us being like, it's so cold. Oh, let's start with some Tom Brady stories.

[Brandon Ray]

Yes. All right.

[Bobby Bones]

Tom Brady reportedly said no to the Raiders, adding Aaron Rodgers and Sam Darnold. It's from Yahoo Sports also. I don't think that's at the same time.

[Brandon Ray]

Does he have that type of pull, though, as.

[Bobby Bones]

As he's a partial owner.

[Brandon Ray]

A partial owner. Minority owner.

[Bobby Bones]

But I think the answer would be. That's a great question to ask for any minority owner that's not named Tom Brady.

[Brandon Ray]

That's a good question. I mean, he does have some weight to his name, doesn't he?

[Bobby Bones]

Because now he's kind of like the face of the organization as well.

[Brandon Ray]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

I think that's probably a big part of the reason they let him buy part of the team. But the Raiders did add Gino Smith. But according to the Athletics, Mike Silver, Raiders minority owner Tom Brady didn't want the Raiders to sign Darnold or Rogers. Darnold eventually signed a three year, $100.5 million contract with the Seahawks. Obviously Aaron Rodgers is with Steelers. They also the Raiders traded a third round selection in the 2025 NFL Draft for Geno Smith and then signed him. 75 million bucks. Yeah. What do you think, Sam Darnold, what's his ceiling? You know, did we see it? Did we see a ceiling.

[Brandon Ray]

We could have seen a ceiling. I mean, when you look at Jefferson, Addison, the supporting cast that he had there, and then also Kevin o' Connell, who, he's brilliant with the quarterback position, coaching that position, he got the most out of Sam Darnold last year. Now it would have been interesting to see if he came back to Minnesota, if he was able to replicate the year that he had. But now, again, it's always when you change organizations and a new coaching staff, you're also, regardless of what you say, you're learning a new system. You've got to get buy in from those players. And now you have to go out and earn it again. And so for him, hopefully he goes and he's able to pick up where he left off. Not at the end of last year, but throughout the season and prove that he is worth what they paid for him. Because obviously last year it's hard to win games in the NFL, but to do what he did, it was a remarkable season. He was up for the MVP midway through the year as well, just the way he was playing. So he's got to do that. And then everybody's going to point to in big games and big moments. But it's not just Sam Darnold. When you get to the playoffs and you have some mishaps, I mean, you look at the Detroit Lions and Jared Goff and he goes out there in the first playoff game and what do you throw four interceptions into that game. And a lot of guys get to that point and because everybody's watching, they don't remember all the good that you did, but they, those playoff games matter. And so it's big games like that that you have to step up in to get the credibility that you're looking for in the NFL.

[Bobby Bones]

And when I read this, I don't feel like it's that he didn't like Sam Darnold as a player. I feel like that's an extra 25 million bucks you're gonna have to give Sam Darnold versus a Geno Smith. So it could have been that. It could have. That, that could have been financial. I definitely understand him not wanting Aaron Rodgers because that feels like it can get toxic very quickly with. If you don't think Aaron's toxic. Just what happens when you have Aaron on your team with the media.

[Brandon Ray]

Right? It's more the media than anything else.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, but he brings that on himself too, right?

[Brandon Ray]

He does for sure.

[Bobby Bones]

So I can see where Tom Brady would not want that situation. But with Aaron Darnold he doesn't want to have to pay that amount of money for a quarterback that's probably about even. And you're also looking at your ex coach who is now in Vegas and you're probably. I don't know what, what's Pete Carroll like when he talk with ownership? I imagine he has a good relationship with everybody. That's just me seeing his face.

[Brandon Ray]

Like he's got a great relationship because he's one of those guys that brings everybody along. At the same time, I'm sure that he wants control over his team and when I say that there's probably collaboration with the GM in the front office. But at the end of the day, I'm sure part of him going there was that he had control over that team and he was going to run it the way that he wants to run it. Because most successful organizations, they have that guy and they've got a head coach that has a vision for his team, understands his personnel is going to go out there and get the guys that he wants and then everybody else falls in line with that. So Coach Carroll obviously is there. And then also the history that he.

[Bobby Bones]

Had with Geno Smith and that was my point, right. With, with, with Carol, it was. Carroll may have wanted the cheaper option, but also what he feels like is the better fit in his quarterback coming in with year one with the Raiders.

[Brandon Ray]

Right. And he understands Geno Smith, he got the most out of him when he was in Seattle and now he's making this transition. Also, philosophically speaking, he's a guy that can go into that locker room and understands what Coach Carroll wants in his team and also be another coach in that locker room and help facilitate that.

[Bobby Bones]

Speaking of Tom Brady, he won the Fanatics games and he won a million dollars. Did you happen to see this?

[Brandon Ray]

What is the Fanatics game?

[Bobby Bones]

So we went to Fanatics Fest last year and basically it's a whole lot of athletes that come and speak and there are these little games you can play and then a whole bunch of cards being sold because Fanatics is so. And I can kind of give you the story here. Seven time super bowl champion Tom Brady emerged Sunday as the winner of the inaugural Fanatics games which had 50 athletes and celebrities against 50 fans in eight competitions. Brady finished atop the 100 person leaderboard with 399 points, taking home the $1 million prize.

[Brandon Ray]

What were the games?

[Bobby Bones]

I'm glad, I'm glad you asked.

[Brandon Ray]

Hula hoop.

[Bobby Bones]

The competitors took part in eight sports themed skills competitions including quarterback skills, basketball, shooting. They played around the world soccer goal scoring, baseball pitching accuracy. A washer dryer. Hockey shooting challenge. Where they had it open. You had to shoot it.

[Brandon Ray]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

A WWE Superstar entrance, A UFC striking challenge, and a closest to the pin golf challenge.

[Brandon Ray]

Okay. I've played golf with him. I know that he's a really good golfer, so that. That's going to be pretty. Pretty good there.

[Bobby Bones]

He for sure won the quarterbacks or at least finished in the top 10, because if you finish in the top 10 of any of these in the hundreds, you're getting some big points.

[Brandon Ray]

Yep.

[Bobby Bones]

So quarterback skills check. Yes. I don't know what kind of basketball player he is, but I watched him before.

[Brandon Ray]

He can shoot.

[Bobby Bones]

He can't shoot.

[Brandon Ray]

Yep.

[Bobby Bones]

Soccer goal scoring. I'm sure if you're like, I've played on the pitch with him before.

[Brandon Ray]

Isn't he part owner? Is he an owner? Isn't he an owner?

[Bobby Bones]

The pitching accuracy makes sense. He got drafted by the Expos.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah. He was a baseball player.

[Bobby Bones]

The hockey thing. I don't know. A WWE Superstar entrance. I'm sure they. They hyped.

[Kevin]

Did you guys see it?

[Brandon Ray]

No.

[Kevin]

Yeah, I saw a video of it.

[Brandon Ray]

Is it good?

[Kevin]

He had a Eli Manning jersey that he grabbed from.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, I saw that.

[Kevin]

Ripped it into. Yeah. So that was it.

[Bobby Bones]

Got it. I saw him shooting against Eli, playing around the world.

[Kevin]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

So it wasn't all set up. Like, he really performed really exceptionally well. Atheist.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Six fans were among the top 10 finishers. James Harden was fourth, Eli Manning was fifth, and Tom Brady finished first. He's going to give $5,000 to each of the 50 fans who competed and then give the rest of charity.

[Brandon Ray]

He won a million dollars?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, he won the million dollars. Wow. Did you see the video of him trying to identify Gronk by any chance?

[Brandon Ray]

Yes, I did.

[Bobby Bones]

That was so funny.

[Brandon Ray]

He's right there.

[Bobby Bones]

He walks into a room, and there are probably 20 Gronks. It's all got real humans and they're all dressed with. Yeah. Just by their bodies because they have on the 87 Grox. 87, right. Yeah, 87. Same Patriots jersey, exact same helmet. And Brady's like, okay, you're not Gronk. You're too tall. You're too. And then he's like, none of these are Gronk. And he walks out in the real Gronk, takes his helmet off and he's like, ah, really?

[Kevin]

Wait, so you got it or no, no, no.

[Brandon Ray]

He's like, none of you guys are Gronk.

[Kevin]

Okay. Okay.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah, it was great. I think he said, you're too small.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Brandon Ray]

And it was Gronk. I mean it was hilarious.

[Bobby Bones]

Does Brady have that like Jordan unhealthy competitive edge about him? Like does he find a reason to competitively be unhealthy?

[Brandon Ray]

That's what I think made him so good for so long. I mean, because every off season he'd find something to push himself because when you're winning championships and all that, it's easy to get complacent and just accept it. But he'd always push himself. So whether it was martial arts or one year it was boxing, we'd go and we. He'd go through this full boxing routine where we're hitting the bag and we're doing all this stuff and ducking. He said it helped him with his footwork, yoga, one off season. So he's always finding something to push himself to be competitive and you get him out. And I said this before probably about golfing. We get out there, I mean he's a madman on the golf course and he's competitive and so you're, he's trying to start bets and do all this stuff. But that's the nature of the beast, is he's ultra competitive in everything he does and he wants to win.

[Bobby Bones]

How does he stay so good looking? Like, I think he might be getting better looking.

[Brandon Ray]

Plastic surgery.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Brandon Ray]

Or no, I'm just kidding.

[Bobby Bones]

What skincare products? Like, yeah, it's just, I'll tell you.

[Brandon Ray]

This dude, he doesn't age. I mean, he doesn't age. He's in better shape now than when he came out of college. But he's also one of those guys that goes back to the ultra competitiveness. Everything he does, he's meticulous. And so from what he wears and his outfits and all that stuff to how he, his eating regimen, like he eats healthy all the time and takes care of his body. And that's just, that's just him. It's his in his DNA.

[Bobby Bones]

Receiver, DB. Travis Hunter signed a four year contract with the Jaguars. The deal worth 46.6 million fully guaranteed, includes 30 million signing bonus which was paid up front. He's the first non quarterback not drafted first overall to get his signing bonus entirely up front. He was the last of the top 10 picks to sign. I watched the Jacksonville when they were tweeting and they did two different tweets. They're like, Jacksonville has signed wide receiver Travis Hunter and it's him at the contract that's like Jacksonville has signed defensive back Travis Hunter. It's kind of funny.

[Brandon Ray]

That is very funny. I mean, he's unique talent. It'll be interesting to see what he brings to that team because obviously new head coach with Liam Cohen, what he gets out of Trevor Lawrence and everything else, but that guy is a dynamic player. I'm just interested to see how much he's going to play offensively, defensively, special teams and what that work load is going to look like for him because everybody's anticipating him being that dude. I, I just, it'll be interesting to see how it all plays out.

[Bobby Bones]

I saw a video of him during camp and he was dancing and one of the other players like, dude, stop dancing.

[Brandon Ray]

Yes, I did see that too.

[Bobby Bones]

So if a rookie comes in highly touted, highly drafted, really paid, does he get a little more freedom than a rookie, even a fourth round rookie?

[Brandon Ray]

I mean, there's definitely a pecking order right when you come in, you're. What was he, the second overall? Third overall. When you come in and there's an expectation and you having a little fun on the field, you get away with some stuff for sure because the type of player that you are, but at the same time you got to go out there and perform. And then also that's why you got to have veteran guys on your team. When it's time to go to work and time to stop jacking around a little bit, you got to get on them and tell them and say, hey, let's go to practice so he'll get a little leeway. But at the same time you go out there and make the catch or make the play. Play. I'm pretty sure you can dance all you want.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, the more catches you make, the more dancing. I think we saw that with O cco you know, the more you do, the more you're allowed to do. We're going to come back and talk to Willie Cologne. Just a second. Give us a second. Be back here on lots to say.

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[Bobby Bones]

Now we're going to talk to Willie Colon. Fourth round draft pick in 2006, he went to Hofstra. He was inducted into their hall of fame in 2023. He is a Super bowl champion with Pittsburgh Steelers. He played and started in exactly 100 NFL games during his career. He came home as a free agent in 2013 when he signed with the jets and now he does analyst work for the jets and that's pre and post game for the jets on sportsnet New York Television. There he is, Willie Colon. Hey Willie, I appreciate the time. I'm big fan, big fan of when you played. Also love what you do in media. Also love hearing you on Rosello's podcast. So like appreciate you being here. I just want to start first with Aaron Rodgers. The news just came out that he says this will be his final season. Is he saying it or does he mean it? What do you think?

[Willie Colon]

Well, honestly I thought he was going to retire. I didn't even think he was. You know, after everything that has that had transpired in New York, I thought in my head that was going to be the last call. But you know, I, I feel like him in Pittsburgh it makes sense. You know, I see Aaron Rodgers as a hired mercenary, right. A hired assassin. I think he's, I think he, Pittsburgh knows and he knows that, you know, he has one more left in the chamber and he doesn't want his legacy or his career to go down the way and win in New York. And so he's decided to join an outfit that's always ready to compete and trying to set a standard and compete for a Super bowl. And I think he really wants to go out with a bank. So, you know, I think this is it, you know, but like I said, I thought it was it in New York. So who knows.

[Bobby Bones]

Let's talk about an Achilles injury for a second because last year he played after having it hurt and it seemed as the season went along for whatever reason and maybe it was because he was feeling better as the season went and healthier one can he all the way be rehabbed at his age from that Achilles to where it was even three years ago. And, and two, does he have enough in him to actually be a top 12 to 15 quarterback this year?

[Willie Colon]

Well, I thought he was a top 10 quarterback last year. I think if you put, if you put his stats next to Josh Allen, they, they weren't far off. I mean, he, he had 11 warrants, he had 11 interceptions. Josh Allen had six. But their numbers are fairly, I think he had a 63% completion rating, so did Josh Allen. So they weren't off. But obviously two tales of two different seasons, on and on and on. Nevertheless, man, I still see him as a top 10 quarterback. One of the things that helped Aaron Rodgers last year, when Tyron Smith went down, they was able to get Olu Fashion their rookie left tackle. And I thought that solidified the left side of that line and allowed Aaron to buy more time in the pocket. And I thought last year he was, you know, obviously coming off the Achilles. He was still dealing with a knee, a hip, an ankle. He started to break down. He broke down early. And then as the season went along, I mean, the jets were out of it after week eight. He seemed to get healthier and he seemed to get healthier right in time when they got old fashioned on the lineup and they started to play better and you started to see examples of what he was, if what he's capable of doing in his age. I mean, he's, he still is not as quick and nimble as he was when he was, you know, stacking MVPs with the green Bay Packers. But you still, you still see flashes of him having those big throws, those off platform throws, his, you know, his ability to improvise. And so it's a, it's a long injury. Like I tore my Achilles. I tore my Achilles right after I won my Super Bowl. It took me six months, excuse me, six months to really kind of feel good and do things. And it took me a full year to feel like I'm back to neutral where I can now get back to being who I want to be and how I want to play. The rehab process is tedious and the mental grind of watching your brothers go to work while you're kind of on the sideline is even worse. So I honestly, it's a two year injury altogether. But to get back to running and jumping and lifting and doing everything you can't do athletically is roughly six months.

[Bobby Bones]

With that injury. We just saw a bunch of NBA guys get it as well, right? I think we saw three of them from Dame to Halliburton to Tatum. You're talking about Aaron Rodgers, talking about yourself, how much of that is mentally trusting it more than it actually not being ready? Because I'm sure there's such a, like a mental part of. Okay, I believe it works more so than it really just working.

[Willie Colon]

Well, I think it's, you know, it's a case by case scenario. You know, for me, being an office alignment, I, I felt more confident because I remember I had talked to a doctor from Yale about the injury I had never sustained. I never suffered from anything like that. And one of the first things they told me was like, hey man, you're gonna have to do more things barefooted. So you get to strengthen, kind of get your body, get your foot firing like it was. And then out of that, man, it was more or less telling me like, hey, you're not a receiver, you're not a running back, you're not a db. You're not gonna be cutting and planning and changing direction like those guys have to do. You're gonna be fine. You do your work in a box. So it gave me more optimism and more confidence that I was going to return back to the guy I wanted to be on the field. Those guys, as far as a point guard or just basketball player in general, there's so much instinctive work they have to do when they're out there doing their job. It takes more of not only your confidence, but also trusting that you know the rest of your body is going to come and come into fruition. Because one of the things that happened to me when I tore my Achilles, I started having knee issues, right, because my body was compensating for what I, what I, you know, what I tore. And so it's a process. Confidence is huge. But also just really not just trusting your body, trusting your brain to react how you want it to react and not second guessing yourself everything you do.

[Bobby Bones]

Did you have an age in your life where, and I think Scottie Pippen's an example of this. I also saw another, another person that grew a bunch where you grew like substance a substantial amount in like a year time.

[Willie Colon]

No, you know, my genetics is different, man. My dad, my dad was roughly six four, six five. My grandmother was six three. So I had to hike from that side. But my mom's folks were all, you know, they're all big back and barrel chested people. You know, we were all. So I kind of, I got the in between of all that. But nevertheless, I never had a gross smart like a Dennis Rodman or Scottie Pippen had. If you Will. I kind of grew with my age. The only thing, at one point, it seemed that the only thing that was growing was my feet, man, because everything my feet size matched my age. So when I was 12, I wore 12. When I was 14, I wore 14. And thank God I stopped at 17. So I wear a size 17. And I was wearing a 17 when I was 17. And my dad was like, man, we got to take you to the doctors. This ain't making sense. You know, if you wear a size 17, you should be 6, 10. And I had. And I was like 6. I was like 6ft with a size 7 size 17. And then I think college, I grew two more inches.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm buddies with DeMarcus Ware, and he talked about in college, he grew a lot, like, from his freshman year until he finished at Troy. Like, he. I think six or seven inches through college. So not even a year. But he grew a substantial amount in college and went to a smaller school, which is Troy, which, again. And you went to Hofstra. So when you went into Hofstra, did you have a bunch of offers and physically was the most development while you were in college?

[Willie Colon]

No, I didn't have a bunch of offers. I had a lot of D1 double A offers, like Maine and New Hampshire and those type schools. I didn't have. I think I had one D1A offer, and that was to South Carolina. And it mostly wasn't because of my talent, because I didn't do a great job in the classroom, and it wasn't bothered with me. They want to bother with me. So that. That was the issue. Nevertheless, man, it was a situation where, like, my transformation did come in a weight room in college. But what really happened was my athletic system really came into play. I had a great coach, and Damian Wroblewski, who's now at the University of Maryland, man, he had us jumping rope. We was doing plyos. We was doing so many things. And I grew up playing basketball, so I had naturally quick feet. And I was always the chubby kid on the team that could do everything. Athletically. I was just, you know, I just happened to have belly and, like, snacks. But nevertheless, man, I attribute a lot of my athleticism and a lot of my footwork and things I was able to acquire. Just me kind of being in the weight room one, because I was always. I was always strong. But the athletic side, being able to jump run, skip, doing all those things, the more dynamic stuff I attribute to my college training. My office line coach at time had a lot to Help. He. He installed a lot of that in me too.

[Bobby Bones]

So when you go from Hofstra to the NFL, was the strength and the speed very different as opposed to if you were to come from one of the big Power 5 schools? No.

[Willie Colon]

Yeah. I mean, the strength in this, the speed was definitely a factor. My brain, I played against guys who are big. I was bigger than it. Right. I played against a lot of speed, defensive ends, guys who like 250, who just get off the ball really fast. When I got into the league, you know, people understand. My first start was against Baltimore and it was against Trevor price. He was 6 8, 290 pounds, right. Then my next start was against Sam Adams, who was six'6,360 pounds. And then I turned around the following year because I started the next year against Cleveland. I had Willie McGinnis. So I was playing dudes who are not only big, fast, but like enormous human beings. So it was me taking and I was considered an undersized tackle. I'm only six, three. Most of the guys, most tackles are six, four, six, five, six six guys. I'm a six three tackle on the edge. And I really had to use everything I learned, every God gifted inch in me to fight these guys and compete. I remember my first game against Baltimore. There's a shot of me, man, where I look like I'm physically and emotionally and spiritually defeated. Because at one, I had never played at that level, that high a level, especially against the Baltimore Ravens. And two, it was great. It was everything for me because I felt like I survived the game rather than thrived in the game. But as I was able to mature and I had great coaches, like, you know, I'm drawing a blank, excuse me, Russ Grimm. And because he was an undersized guard, because me and him kind of same in stature, he instilled a lot of tools in me on how to be the combative, how to get after guys. I remember watching a lot of tape on Jason Peters when he was at the Buffalo Bills and how he used to set and go after guys. I didn't have long arms, so I had to always take the fight to guys. I couldn't sit back there like a Joe Thomas and vertical set and just take on a bull rush and do all that stuff. I remember playing against Jason Taylor and Vonnie Holiday and all these guys were just extremely long, big guys and they would use their arms and they would drive you right into the quarterback and beat you up, right? And so I had to shoot every snap like a bull coming out the cage, I just had to go at him. And that was kind of my game, using my footwork in my hands. And I was like, I learned a lot of that because of my coaches, that I was able to be coached.

[Bobby Bones]

By guys you lined up against. If I were to say who was one of the stronger guys you lined up against and then who was one of the faster guys you lined up against, who would you say, man, so.

[Willie Colon]

I've told this story. So I've told this story. So I don't wear socks. I don't know if you knew that during your process. Did you know that?

[Bobby Bones]

Yes, I. Yes, I do. Yeah.

[Willie Colon]

Yeah. So I don't wear socks. And so part of me reasons why. One of the reasons I don't wear socks because I. I used to like to feel the studs underneath my feet when I was getting off the ball. That was kind of like a trigger for me. And so we're playing the San Francisco 49ers. And the week prior, you know, my office line is Kendall Simmons, Alan Fanica, Marvell Smith, just Jeff Hardings, all these guys who had won a Super bowl and really just decorated guys on a lot of different levels. And so they were telling me, like, hey, young fella, you need to. You don't have to strap it up, man. You got Brian Young this week. And I'm like. I'm like, okay. I knew who he was, but I wasn't. You know, I wasn't intimidated nor scared, but I knew he. You know, I knew his career in Notre Dame and how long he had played. We played against the Niners, man, and me and him are in an absolute dog fight. Like, we were beating on each other. We're getting off the ball, and I remember saying to myself, like, man, this. This dude's legit. And now one of the things. I always got kind of labeled as being a badass because I didn't wear socks in my cleats. Where's the TV Timeout? I'm sitting in the huddle. You know, I got lip busted. I'm breathing all heavy. We're looking at each other. He's looking at me. And I looked at. I looked down at his feet. He doesn't have any socks on. And I'm like, okay. And I remember we had a dual play, and it's me and my right guard. At the time, Kendall was next to me, and it's pretty much a double team to the. To the backside linebacker. And I called the double team off. I'm like, no, I got him like, no, no, no, no, no. Like, I got him. I'm growling in my stance and brother man, I shot off the ball. He shot out the ball. It was like two bulls whack it. And I can feel me. And I feel like I'm getting him. Like I'm trying to get him. And I. And he. No, no, bull. He close pressed me off him like this. And I could feel his strength go through my body to the point where, like, I was. You know how like the old WWE when, like Hogan and warriors to lock up and they used to be like this.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Willie Colon]

That's how it felt. And I remember that never happened to me before, and I was like, oh, my God. And I remember trying to, like, really dig in and get him, and he just closed. He just slowly benched me off him, got let me go and went ahead and made the play. And I said, oh, my God. And what's so wild about that? The off season came around, and that's all I thought about. That's all I thought about him bench pressing me off him and kind of shedding me and going to make the play. And then I think the next time I looked up in the gym, like, he was charged with like, HGH or something. He got.

[Bobby Bones]

He got knocked or something.

[Willie Colon]

And I was like. I was like, okay, there's hope, right? I'm not weak like he did. He does more to the sauce than to him just being bigger, faster, stronger, and then built like a Greek God. And so that was cool. That was. That was always a funny story. And then, you know, I played. I played against Elod, Nada, man. Holodi was just. He's probably the best dude I ever played against, and I played against a lot of great guys, but he was. You know, one thing about the NFL, everybody has superpower, right? Somebody's really smart, they're fast, they're strong, they got this. There's. Everybody has an edge. The problem with Holodi is we were the same guy, same temperament, fast, big, strong. And we both. We both. Both had an effort mentality. Like, if you want to go to the backyard, we can be in the backyard. We could fight all day. And so that was. So that was the great thing about our rivalry against Baltimore, man. When your superpowers don't work anymore, what do you do? You fight, right? And so we were always kind of having that back and forth, getting after each, getting after each other. And I got a lot of respect for him, man, but he was. He was a dog, all dog.

[Bobby Bones]

I was Going to ask you about the sock thing independently. I'm glad you brought that up, because the only other player that I knew who would want to feel was Walter Payton. He would take the soles out of his shoes, and as a running back, he would take the soles out and, yeah, that felt weird. But he said he wanted to feel the turf. He wanted to feel the ground as a running back, so he wanted his feet to be as close to the dirt as possible. And I was going to ask you about the Sox, if that was when that started. And did that last your entire career or were you ever like, man, because when I don't wear socks, my feet stink. Like, just permanently. So tell me about the sock thing.

[Willie Colon]

Well, one, I'm notoriously known for that, like, having the most stinkiest locker and stinkiest feet in the locker room. They have this machine called the Ozone where you're able to throw your cleats in and kind of defunct your cleat. I think I broke one. It was. My feet were so damn funky. It started in high school. Like I said, I had a big shoe size. I think I was. I think my first pair of turf cleats, I was wearing a 16. And they didn't. I. My. My coach at the time went to. There was a sporting goods store called Frank's in the Bronx, and they were. They. They happened to somehow get these turf cleats that I was able to wear. And I put my. I had socks on at the time. And I started when I put my. My, My. My feet in these socks. Excuse me. When I put my foot in these cleats, I started to get like. It was like. It was ir. It irritated my foot. It was like. I don't know how to explain it. It was just. It was irritating my foot. And I started to get, like, this chafing thing going on. And so I said, damn the damn with them. And then I simply just put my foot in there with no socks and I spat it, and I had a great game, and I just kind of went with it. And that was. That was my thing. And I did it in the league. But, you know, you get fined for not wearing socks, so I used to put the calf sleeves on. I used to put the whole sock on, cut the ankle off, and then tape. So, yeah, so it looked like a sock, but it was no sock underneath.

[Bobby Bones]

That's so legit that you cut the feet out of the socks and just wore the calves. So you didn't get fined.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I want to ask a final question. Because I see the pictures, the picture behind you, and then also your jersey there. I think of you as just a stealer, like, through and through a stealer. And you mentioned the Ravens earlier on, and to me, professional rivalries are always of interest because the fans and the media, like, they're the ones. The fans, like, we live them. We hate the teams we're supposed to hate, and the media constantly propels it because it'll get clicks. Did you hate the Ravens as you played the Ravens?

[Willie Colon]

I hated the Ravens because, first of all, the rivalry is real. I think that you have to tell the fans that, because I think there's this level of where people think it's kind of. It's all made up for tv. We know it was. The rivalry robbery was very real, and it was. It was intense. I know I personally wouldn't sleep well going into Ravens games. Like, out of the week. I probably got, you know, I probably slept good two days out of that week going into Ravens games because your manhood was going to be challenged. And it was one of those games where you couldn't blink, meaning you couldn't show fear and you couldn't look like the guy that didn't belong on the field. You had to match that level of intensity or you was going to stick out or you was going to get hurt or you're going to get somebody else hurt. So you didn't. It wasn't just about your A game. It's about bringing your. Your will to the floor. And somebody may say, like, well, don't you do that every Sunday? You would think so. But sometimes when you're equally yoked as the guy across from you, and, you know, they have the same passion, the same pride and the same fight as you now. You have to. You have to kind of. You kind of match their intensity. And every time we played the Ravens, man, it was always intense.

[Brandon Ray]

Always.

[Willie Colon]

It was always in your face. It was. You know, it's so funny because I just had a daily as Thomas and Bart Scott at my golf outing yesterday, right? Two great Ravens. Right. And. And I work with Bart, obviously, because we both cover the jets. But nevertheless, man, it was just. It was just always. It always felt big. I don't know, no matter where we were in the standings, it always felt big and it always felt real. And it was. It was like a blunt luster that we had for each other. And I credit Hines Ward. Man, Heinz was always that guy, you know, unique. What was unique about Heinz? When you talk about somebody setting the tone, it usually Comes from a linebacker, a running back, or somebody on the defense that's a hard hitter. Never your, you know, five'11 slot Korean receiver. You know what I mean, who looks to knock your damn head off. And he did. And how much hate they had for him. And I know hate's a strong word, but it was intense, man. We said extremely unchristian like things to each other. We got after each other, and we were just, you know, we were just. We were just two bulls on the block. You know what I mean? We were just always clodding heads and. And it was. It was real. But I loved it. It made me. It made my career. It's one of my favorite games. As much as I would not sleep and get the knots in the stomach and. And try to play my best. I love playing Baltimore. I love playing in Baltimore. I love, love them coming home. Played them at home.

[Bobby Bones]

I saw your Instagram where you were playing golf. What's your handicap?

[Willie Colon]

Oh, I'm horrible, man. I'm like a 26 or something like that. It's not good.

[Bobby Bones]

We have a debate on this show if you find a certain brand of ball in the woods, because we're not very good either. If you find a certain brand of ball in the woods, what's the number one brand? If you see it, you're like, I don't even know if I want that ball.

[Willie Colon]

Oh, probably Bridgestone.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, come on. You with all the other guys. I picked noodle. I picked Noodle, but I, I.

[Willie Colon]

It was crazy. I started to say noodles, but I found myself kind of liking the noodle bowl.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, everybody.

[Willie Colon]

You know, I don't know why.

[Bobby Bones]

It's like wearing socks. It's all feel.

[Brandon Ray]

It's all feel.

[Willie Colon]

It's all feel. I'm. I'm. I'm. Listen, my golf game is so up and down. I love it. I wish, you know, one thing about golf, I wish I would have played it earlier in my career. Because the beautiful thing about golf is it doesn't matter how mad you are. It doesn't matter how you feel about the game. You got to play the course. You got to present the ball with a level of education and mechanics to do the job, to hit the ball, to get into the hole. And so it requires you to kind of always get centered. Everything's about getting centered so you could do your job. And that's. And that's football, man. It doesn't matter how angry or fired up I am. I always had to get back to zero so I could do my job. Right. And whatever came out of that, I had to still get back to zero, so. And that's very much golf. And so I been. You know, Ben Rosberg is a big golfer. We had some guys that loved golf, but I hated it up until I retired. Now I go to sleep with the.

[Bobby Bones]

Golf Channel, instagram at. Willie Cologne 66 Again, big fan of your work in all capacities. Like I watch you or listen to you or however I consume. You are big fan of how you tell stories and appreciate your time today, Willie. And here's to a great NFL season and hopefully I'll talk to you again soon.

[Willie Colon]

Appreciate you, brother. Thank you.

[Bobby Bones]

All right, Willie. See you, buddy.

[Narrator]

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[Bobby Bones]

All right, Kevin, what do you have for us over there?

[Kevin]

All right, guys, I want to read through a list of topics here and each of you to answer. At what age should a grown man stop doing this as a sports fan?

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, we got two grown men right here ready to answer these questions.

[Kevin]

That's right. And if there is no age, you can say that too.

[Brandon Ray]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

All right, I'll write mine down. So. And then you'll go first so I won't be affected by your answer. Okay, go ahead.

[Kevin]

All right, number one, wearing a player's jersey outside of going to a game.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. Okay, I'm in. I like to talk about why my answer is my answer. Are you in?

[Brandon Ray]

I'm in.

[Bobby Bones]

Go ahead. What's your answer?

[Brandon Ray]

25.

[Bobby Bones]

Why?

[Brandon Ray]

I just think, you know, adult males after college don't need to be rocking jerseys unless you're going to the gym or something like that. Outside of 25, like you're just wearing, wearing another man's jersey, not going to a sporting event. I'm pretty confident that 25 is my, my cap. There's.

[Bobby Bones]

And I like your answer. I went a little older and I'll tell you why.

[Brandon Ray]

Because you do it.

[Bobby Bones]

No, but I did when I played rec softball where I signed my Grace jersey and I played awesome.

[Brandon Ray]

But I'm saying you're, you're going to a sporting event.

[Bobby Bones]

No, I played rec softball wearing a signed Mark Grace jersey.

[Brandon Ray]

No, that's. That's pretty baller. That's acceptable.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I, I put down 32. Now, I agree with everything you said. But what about. Doesn't matter if it is like a vintage, like a retro. Let's say I'm going somewhere and my jersey is not a current player who's like a 23 year old and I'm in my 40s, but it's like a mean Joe Green jersey. Like, it's like an old school. Like the reason I went a little older is because I think I can get around that. I don't want to look lame wearing another dude's jersey because I'm wearing a Philadelphia Eagles Reggie White vintage jersey. I think that's pretty cool. And I think you can wear that as kind of a fashion statement more than just a lane. Because I agree with you, everything you said. I'm not pushing back on that at all. I think the only reason it can be a bit older is if the jersey is a bit older with older players more paying homage to the greats. But if you're out wearing a CJ Stroud jersey and you're 42 and you're going to dinner on a Wednesday, that's pretty lame.

[Brandon Ray]

That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah. You're sitting there. I totally agree with that. It warrants something if you're wearing a legendary jersey of a player and you're going to a concert or something like that and you've got the swag going. Okay, It's a fashion statement. But if you're just going over to Ace Hardware and they're going to go out.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's. It's the age of the player you're wearing. I think if the age of the player is younger than you, it's kind of lame.

[Brandon Ray]

Yes, thank you.

[Kevin]

To Good point.

[Bobby Bones]

I. You're wearing a kid's jersey and you're putting them up on the God pedestal. So I would say if we're just nuanced in this thing because I agree with your age and I'm going to lift it a bit if it's like a vintage old school jersey, but that player is still older than you or dead. So you cannot wear the jersey of someone that's younger than you.

[Brandon Ray]

Okay, I'm with you.

[Bobby Bones]

I think we just came to the absolute rule. You cannot wear the jersey of a player that's younger than you. If you're just going to chill now. If you're going to a game, I still think that's almost the rule. Even if you're going to the game.

[Brandon Ray]

Like how many Aaron Rodger jerseys? There's going to be a bunch of them out there in Steelers, just 45, 50 year olds.

[Bobby Bones]

And that's rocking it. That's weird.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I think the general rule should be if I were dictator. Yes, you must go Brad Shaw or maybe even. Well, but who's older, Roethlisberger or Aaron Rodgers?

[Brandon Ray]

That's a good question. Roethlisberger.

[Bobby Bones]

He's definitely older because Rogers is 40.

[Brandon Ray]

40. Still looking around 40. Roethlisberger's 43. Yeah, looking around 55.

[Bobby Bones]

I saw. I played in a charity, like, celebrity golf tournament with Rothsberger a few weeks ago.

[Brandon Ray]

Uhhuh.

[Bobby Bones]

Towering.

[Brandon Ray]

He's a massive human being.

[Bobby Bones]

Thick. Not fat.

[Brandon Ray]

No, just. He's just a thick, big old boy.

[Bobby Bones]

You're like, is that a full body lumberjack over there? Yeah.

[Kevin]

43 and 41. Rothesberger.

[Bobby Bones]

Wow. So close in age.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

So I couldn't wear a Roethlisberger jersey then because I'm just. I just beat Roethlisberger.

[Kevin]

But you can wear a Rogers jersey.

[Bobby Bones]

No, I can't. He's younger than me. No, I think.

[Kevin]

Oh, yeah, yeah, sorry.

[Bobby Bones]

I think no man should wear any jersey of a player younger than them. Regardless.

[Kevin]

I think you just set a new rule.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I think that's the rule for.

[Kevin]

For at a game and not out of game. Both.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, both. You shouldn't worship an athlete younger than you. You can root for them, but you shouldn't worship them.

[Kevin]

That's fair.

[Brandon Ray]

Unless they're your sibling.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, if they're family, that works.

[Kevin]

Yeah. Now we're just throwing curveballs.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah, we're just. We want to make sure we check all the boxes.

[Kevin]

Okay. All right, next up, bring a baseball glove to a game.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Brandon Ray]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

You know what?

[Brandon Ray]

You want to go first?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Willie Colon]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

No age. As long as the kid's with you.

[Brandon Ray]

I was just going to say that. For sure. If you have a kid with you. And you're going to a game with the purpose of catching a foul ball for your child. Totally makes sense. If you're going to a game by yourself.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, different age. Hold on. I like that. Okay, good. I have no age. If you have a kid with you, that's. It's a bonding thing. Okay, okay. By yourself. I'm in at 22. 22.

[Brandon Ray]

I was going to say college is cut off.

[Bobby Bones]

When you graduate college, catch it with your bare hand. You baby.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah. Or I mean, even if maybe high school. I mean, I. I don't know if we even drop that down to, like, 18. Like, you can start smoking and buying cigarettes, and at that point, you. That's your end point for bringing a glove, because you just got a man up and catch that ball with your hand.

[Bobby Bones]

And if you're on a date, don't take a glove with you. If there's no kid, I don't care how old you are. Yeah.

[Brandon Ray]

What, are you going to catch her foul ball and she's going to keep it forever?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Walk around the glove, loser.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Catch it with your bare hand.

[Brandon Ray]

I'm proposing tonight. That's why I brought the glove. Okay, maybe in that circumstance.

[Bobby Bones]

All right, next up.

[Kevin]

Okay. Paint your face in the team colors. Never going to a game.

[Bobby Bones]

You're going never start.

[Brandon Ray]

Again. You got to stay 22. Like, right around that college age where you're still entrenched in the environment of college football or going to a stadium and you're with your buddies or your girlfriends and you're just like, let's rage. Okay, I get it. But anything past that, if you're an adult living in the real world, don't need to paint your face.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm going to say 35, but only if you're doing it with other people. You can't go to a game by yourself and you be the only one painted. But if there's like eight of you and you're like, the dog pound, oh.

[Brandon Ray]

You'Re part of, like, the community, like the Raiders, like, the black hole or whatever it might be where. But that's like costumes. That's dress up. So they're still painting their face.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I don't have a problem with it if it's done in a group. There's power in numbers of being weird. So I'm gonna say if you, like, you and all your boys are going to a game and you decide we're going to be stupid and take our shirts off and paint our chest and face. Like, I'm not gonna do that. It ain't for me, but it's just when you're doing it by yourself.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah, by yourself puts a whole nother. Puts you into a whole nother category.

[Bobby Bones]

So I'm gonna go a little older, but I'm gonna put the caveat of you have to do it with other people or it looks really weird. By yourself.

[Brandon Ray]

I'm going to catch a game by myself. Hold on.

[Bobby Bones]

Paint it painted with the glove and a jersey. Yes. All right, next one.

[Kevin]

A bastion athlete on Twitter.

[Brandon Ray]

Oh, I don't know. I don't know about this one. You can't really cap it because there, there are fans everywhere that are fanatical and they want to have their opinion. And right now in our society, social media gives them that ability.

[Kevin]

But like, at what age are you, like, dude, you're a grown man. You're taking time out of your day to come comment or say something bad.

[Brandon Ray]

Well, do I think it's ridiculous that people go on and make comments half the time? Yeah, of course I do. But at the same time, I'd say as soon as you get into that 40 realm, it's like, do you, do you really want to spend your time capping on a 21 year old kid that missed the ball or crapping all over a player for a bad performance?

[Bobby Bones]

I would say it also, like, what are we playing, college or professional? I think that matters.

[Kevin]

Professional.

[Bobby Bones]

It's weird. I've never gone on and bashed an athlete.

[Brandon Ray]

Me neither.

[Bobby Bones]

And I have big opinions about everything all the time. I've bashed organizations, I've questioned coaching decisions, but I've never been on. It's been like, this person sucks or.

[Brandon Ray]

Felt like you had to go write that in because.

[Bobby Bones]

And maybe it's because people will do that to me. And it feels so personal. So that could be a reason too, that people will come after me and, and say personal things because of the job that I do. And at times maybe I don't perform as well as others, so that could possibly affect it. But I'm going to say, what age can you rent a car? 26.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. That's when you should start. Stop throwing spears at specific athletes.

[Kevin]

Okay. When you can rent a car.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Brandon Ray]

I think the issue though with this is that with the betting now and everybody. Fantasy. Yeah, Fantasy betting. That's changed the world because you're having. I've got so many friends that are 40 plus, 50 plus. Look, they've got their parlays, they've got this, that and the other, and they're just emotional that they miss their parlay or they miss this based on one player's performance. And I don't know if they actually snap back at those guys on social media or the players. But at the end of the day, that's what this world's come to is they have to get their frustrations out some way because they just lost a bunch of money.

[Bobby Bones]

Then I would like to retract my statement that I've never said anything bad because. Because I don't. I've not taken shots. But I have said things like if Jamal Charles would have got me four more yards, I would have.

[Brandon Ray]

And I don't taking a shot.

[Bobby Bones]

Is it though or is it stating a fact?

[Kevin]

No, I don't count that or I.

[Bobby Bones]

Was one leg away if Chad Holmgren gets one more block. So if that doesn't count, I still don't think I've ever seen anything bad about an athlete. If that does, then I have, many times because that's. I didn't think about that. I do let my fantasy and betting it is reflected in my posting.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

But I don't ever go after the person because it's not really there. It could have been the scheme that week.

[Brandon Ray]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

More so than the player. Does that count as talking bad about somebody? If I say, man, if they'd have gotten six more yards or one more catch, I'd have won the game. That my fantasy game this week?

[Kevin]

No, because you're along with, you know, hundreds of thousands or whoever are also on the same boat.

[Bobby Bones]

And I'm not blaming the player ever. I'm just saying if they would have. And that could have been again a quarterback's fault. The it doesn't matter now.

[Kevin]

If he drops like a pass, I would have got you at the last second. Then you're like, oh, if he would have caught that pass but he can't catch.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah. If you're going layers to it, there's layers.

[Bobby Bones]

If he would have caught that last ball. But I don't think I would have ever said he can't catch.

[Kevin]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

Because obviously he's in the NFL. And I think I handle it differently because people take shots at me all the time. So I don't think I'm the normal person. But I'm still putting it at 26.

[Brandon Ray]

Okay, 26.

[Kevin]

We got back to 26.

[Bobby Bones]

When you can rent a car, that's when you need to shut up about specific players sucking cuz you ain't done anything in your life. You barely can rent a car, loser. There you Go. Thank you.

[Brandon Ray]

Okay, I like that.

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[Kevin]

Next one here, asking an athlete for an autograph.

[Brandon Ray]

Well, for me, this one's tough. I think it's fair to, fair to be a fan and to ask an athlete for an autograph when you're an adult, but it's gotta be within. Again, cutoff point for me is usually around college like to ask for an autograph or, you know, it's hard because I, I respect the fans and the in that. So I'll say 30, but I will, I will say this. We've been out at training camp before and they have the autograph, seekers, right? And, or you'll be going to your hotel the night before a game and they're sitting out there. These are grown adults with multiple things to sign trying to get you to sign a blank, blank sheet of paper just to get your autograph and sell it and do that stuff. And there's little kids and they get, try to jump in front of these little kids and it infuriates me watching them do that. And I know they're trying to make a buck and do whatever they want to do and they've got something going on inside. But for kids, it's one thing grown adults getting in front of other kids to try to, you know, push their way in there and take, get autographs for their own because, you know, they're just trying to sell it, right? It has no purpose other than them trying to monetize it. So, oh, this one's hard for me. All right, I'll say, 30.

[Bobby Bones]

I've played shows at the Ryman Auditorium here in Nashville. And you run into those guys, and they basically have a big piece of cardboard, and they have, like, six things on it, and they're like, bobby, will you sign this? But don't make it out to anybody, right?

[Brandon Ray]

Never, never personalize it.

[Bobby Bones]

Because if you do, it loses the value in resale completely, and that's annoying. Also, you still do it because. Well, I do, because what's my autograph worth? Very little. So you still do it. And you sign everybody else's thing, too, going in. But it does feel like the older they are, the goofier it feels until you're like, you know what? They're just trying to make a living. I also own part of a sports memorabilia business, but again, I don't walk around asking athletes to sign them. Mostly that's a room set up with a bunch of stuff where the athlete goes in, gets paid a blanket amount, and they sign everything.

[Brandon Ray]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

I think if you can grow facial hair, it starts to get weird if you're just asking for an audit. Unless it's, like, a legend. Man, that's a tough one.

[Brandon Ray]

That is a really tough one. Because, I mean, if I had, like.

[Bobby Bones]

A really cool old. I'll just give an example, because I'm looking at one now, like, old Dallas Cowboys helmet. And Herschel Walker was, like, standing there, dude. Yeah. I'll be like, hey, I was a big fan of yours. Would you mind signing this old helmet? So I think it just matters in.

[Brandon Ray]

The right setting, though. Yeah, I agree, because setting matters big time. Like, if. If somebody comes up to you and you've. And you're at the restaurant with your wife, and they say, hey, could you sign this for me? That's a weird circumstance.

[Bobby Bones]

Can we also insert the if they're older than you rule? It's okay, because I. Because again, if I see Larry Bird and I got a ball. Freaking Larry Bird.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, when I was a kid. I need you to sign the. Because you're still kind of a kid to that person that affected you when you were a kid. So I almost want to put that. If they're older than you, you can ask for an autograph at any time. If they're younger than you, we have some rules we need to talk about.

[Brandon Ray]

Yes. When in doubt, that absolutely makes sense.

[Kevin]

Yeah. When in doubt, go with that. That line, that parameter.

[Bobby Bones]

If they're older than you and they were cool to you as a kid, and you would have wanted their autograph as a kid, I think it's still okay as long as you're not being creepy. And, like, they're not with their kids, they're not eating, have food in front of them. That's okay to ask for an autograph. Yeah, but it's when an older. Older man comes up to you, who's 15 years older than you, is like, we shop. Saw my shoe. That's when it gets weird.

[Brandon Ray]

It does get weird.

[Bobby Bones]

Good question, though. Give me one more.

[Kevin]

Okay, last one. Crying after a loss, after your favorite team loses. As a fan crying.

[Bobby Bones]

Will you define crying? Because I cry like this. God, we suck at everything.

[Kevin]

No, I'm talking about. I've seen actual fans cry. Like, I'm talking tears.

[Brandon Ray]

All right, so six years old is mine.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Brandon Ray]

You don't even have to be an adult. If you're an adult, you shouldn't be crying after your team lost. Maybe after a victory, I could see that.

[Bobby Bones]

I could see celebration. Like a tear. A celebration.

[Kevin]

No, like a sadness.

[Willie Colon]

Loss.

[Kevin]

You're a Pacers fan. Just loss.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I'm with you. I think if you're an adult, you don't cry after a loss. I think a cry after a win is a different feeling, a different emotion, because you've experienced that with somebody or some years you've spent after a loss. It's like, bro, people are at war right now.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot going on.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, people are hungry right now, and nobody. I don't feel rage in my life. Like, I. I don't ever get too high or too low. It's something I go to therapy for because I don't feel that often. I think I got numb from my early childhood. It just really not having parents and having to survive. So I don't, like, look forward to things. I don't have hopes for things. But also things don't affect me that much on the bottom side either, where I'm just like.

[Brandon Ray]

You're just calloused.

[Bobby Bones]

Very much so. But I've really been trying to work my way out of that with a lot of therapy. And that being said, I've never experienced so much rage. I wanted to, like, punch somebody, or I can just be like, I'll move on. Like, am I getting triggered or competitive and want to kill somebody? But I never feel that rage where it's like, throw something through a television. Except for when Arkansas loses.

[Brandon Ray]

I was just about to say, that's.

[Bobby Bones]

The only time I see red in my eyes.

[Brandon Ray]

I. I'm starting to think about this. And you've been through some difficult circum.

[Bobby Bones]

Just this year it's just this year it's awful. And I get so rage filled. I. But I now can understand what people. That feeling they get toward just general life. And yet I still have never cried. That's my point.

[Brandon Ray]

Never cried at. At a loss.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, at a loss.

[Brandon Ray]

Like if you were going to. Going to cry, it was the other night for the World Series.

[Bobby Bones]

That was a bad one. Sweet 16 was a bad one. We can walk through the whole thing. Softball, two players having food, food poisoning. My brother in law's coach on the team. We could do football. The thing about football was stupid because we lose a terrible Oklahoma State game. But then we beat Tennessee, a game we shouldn't have won. That kept the coaches around longer. I wanted to cry after that. Wait, we won. But now our coaches are going to be here longer. I still have never cried because of a loss. Because I'm an adult.

[Brandon Ray]

Yes. I just haven't cried over.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, as.

[Brandon Ray]

As an adult. Have not cried over a game.

[Bobby Bones]

I. This might be human. And again, it felt so weird. But when my brother in law is now at Arkansas, he went to Utah to be the hitting coach. It was his first job and he was a hitting coach. And he took them to their first ever College World Series. And after they won the game, I got like a tear. But I think that was family for him.

[Kevin]

Yeah, deep.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, that. Right, that's.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah, that's celebrating family. The emotional.

[Bobby Bones]

I never even had that before.

[Kevin]

You get the pass on that. You get the pass.

[Brandon Ray]

Okay, all right.

[Bobby Bones]

So you did cry after a win though.

[Brandon Ray]

After a win. That's what I'm saying. After a win. It makes sense to me. After a loss, after a. It's devastating, you feel helpless. But at the end of the day, it's a game and you didn't play.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. And it's weird to say that it's a game because we invest so much of our lives, you, your career into sports and it matters so much. But it only matters to a point. After remind myself that sometimes, yes. I have to look in the mirror and go, it's just a game. And tomorrow the sun will come up again.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah. As a fan, I haven't done it as a player. There's been emotional games like when my dad passed away and we went and played against the Raiders and then Coach Belichick brought the team up and presented me with the game ball. There was this emotional release because I hadn't really cried that week. And it all happened so sudden. Where that's an emotional. Just, you know, things are coming out. But like watching the Dodgers lose, lose the World Series or do something like that, or the Lakers or something, I'm just like. That's part of sports. You're going to win, you're going to lose.

[Bobby Bones]

I also think. And you made a good point. It doesn't even have to be the loss of something. I think if you work all season, let's. Let's use the Pacers this last week when they lost their game. I think if you lose, it's okay to cry a little bit. If you were the one playing.

[Brandon Ray]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

As a fan. Okay, stop. Stand up, shake your hands, shake your feet, get a little in your extremities, and then stop being a little wimp. It sucks, but don't cry. But if you're like McConnell and you've played your freaking face off. Yeah, you deserve to cry. That's okay. I'm not going to judge you for crying if you actually played the game because you put time, heart, soul, your body into this.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah, it was a grind.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. But I. I feel rage, man. I punched the couch. My wife has never. Because again, I'm never too high, never too low. I will start punching couches.

[Brandon Ray]

I would love to see you just have a complete breakdown.

[Bobby Bones]

You don't. You will never see it.

[Brandon Ray]

Somebody film this, please.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't get around people when I watch stuff.

[Brandon Ray]

Oh, you have to watch by yourself.

[Bobby Bones]

By myself.

[Brandon Ray]

Is it only Arkansas?

[Bobby Bones]

Yes.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah. Only Arkansas.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Yes.

[Brandon Ray]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

99.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah, 99.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, there are bad beats and gambling, but even then I'm just like, of course.

[Brandon Ray]

Of course I lost because I'm.

[Bobby Bones]

Of course, because I'm a terrible idiot, terrible gambler. All right.

[Brandon Ray]

And they told me to bet that parlay, and it looked good.

[Bobby Bones]

Great.

[Brandon Ray]

I had two out of the three, so meaty.

[Bobby Bones]

Gosh, I'm so stupid. Then I just cry because I'm a loser. Not even about the game. All right, we're done. Thank you, guys. Oh, Kevin, we got to pick a book.

[Kevin]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

Did you. You want to. What do you think?

[Kevin]

So I saw a few comments on there, by the way, the jerseys. They reached the destination. Both of them?

[Brandon Ray]

Both of them.

[Kevin]

All the way to Germany.

[Brandon Ray]

Let's go.

[Kevin]

Three days.

[Brandon Ray]

Really?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Mailman. Who even knew?

[Kevin]

I know.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Why not? Let's look at some. I'm going to pull up some comments.

[Bobby Bones]

If you just tell me. I think what we should do is if you just tell me how many there are, I'll just pick a number and you. That's the one we do.

[Kevin]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Because then we're not judging based on creativity in the comments, which I never really wanted that to be.

[Brandon Ray]

Bobby, dance with Me was the comment.

[Bobby Bones]

And they were all over it.

[Willie Colon]

Were they?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. I don't know how many there are, but I'm gonna pick number 14. Here we go. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14. Danny says, Dance with me, Bobby. Last time I tried to buy your book Bare Bones on Amazon, the copy I wanted was out of stock.

[Brandon Ray]

So Danny, Danny, let's go, Danny, dance with him.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, Danny. I don't. His name is just Danny from four days ago. Kevin. I don't know how you're gonna find him. He's gonna message you, but message Kevin. Kick off, Kevin. What's your Instagram name?

[Kevin]

Yep, right there. Kick off, Kevin.

[Bobby Bones]

Danny, message Kevin and then we will send you an autograph book and thank you. Shoot.

[Kevin]

A dm.

[Bobby Bones]

That's it. Boom. We're done.

[Brandon Ray]

Thanks for listening.

[Bobby Bones]

He's Matt Castle. Let's kick off Kevin. That's Brandon Ray and Bobby Rowings. We have had lots to say. We will see you guys next week. Bye, everybody. Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is a production of the NFL and iHeart podcasts. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Narrator]

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[Brandon Ray]

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