Lots to Say: Super Bowl Recap, Cam Jordan, Scott Hallenbeck, and Rob Riggle!

Summary

The Bobby Bones Show: Lots to Say – Super Bowl Recap, Cam Jordan, Scott Hallenbeck, and Rob Riggle!

Episode Date: February 11, 2026
Podcast Host: Bobby Bones (with Matt Cassel, Brandon Ray, guests Cam Jordan, Scott Hallenbeck, and Rob Riggle)

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Episode Overview

This episode of "Lots to Say" dives deep into the aftermath of Super Bowl 60, tackling not just the game but the larger narratives, player performances, and future NFL projections. Bobby Bones, Matt Cassel, and Brandon Ray dissect post-Super Bowl storylines, discuss the pressure on rising stars, analyze MVP odds, and discuss the changing landscape of the NFL and Pro Bowl. Special guests include Cam Jordan (New Orleans Saints), Scott Hallenbeck (USA Flag Football), and comedian Rob Riggle, each bringing unique insight, humor, and perspective.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Super Bowl 60 "Postmortem": Player and Team Analysis

Timestamps: 02:41–14:25

• Will Campbell's Struggles as a Rookie Left Tackle:

  • Campbell faced elite defenders throughout the playoffs, ending up with a record number of pressures and multiple sacks allowed. Injury or lack of development? Both likely factors.
  • The group debates if Campbell should move from tackle to guard, as doubts about his arm length persist.
  • Notable Quote (Bobby Bones, 05:25):
    “You have to find a position that works for him because you gave up major draft capital... fourth pick in the draft. You want to see if you can one, work on his confidence because right now, obviously his confidence is down.”
  • Optimism remains: perhaps public failure will drive Campbell to a better off-season comeback.

• Drake May's Playoff Woes:

  • May’s performance regressed in the playoffs, raising questions about long-term potential under mounting pressure and a media microscope.
  • "Garbage time" stats late in games, little meaningful in comeback efforts.
  • Notable Quote (Brandon Ray, 09:39):
    “He helped get this team to this point… At the same time, he knows he's got to play better in the playoffs and he faced some really good defenses and that's how you grow up in this league.”
  • Next season’s tougher schedule looms, testing his and the team's mettle.

• Sam Darnold: Super Bowl Winner?

  • Darnold’s steady, mistake-free play is credited as the difference in the Seahawks’ run, even if no one claims he was spectacular.
  • Notable Quote (Bobby Bones, 14:00):
    “He wasn't six and a half great—six and a half out of ten. Good enough to win a Super Bowl if you have a really good to great defense.”

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2. NFL Futures, Odds & Off-Season Questions

Timestamps: 17:22–35:41

• Super Bowl and MVP Odds:
  • Early favorites: Seattle, Rams, Bills, Eagles, Patriots. KC surprisingly low.
  • Matt Cassel and Brandon Ray discuss franchise tag frustrations (e.g., George Pickens), contracts, and the mental toll on players.
  • Notable Quote (Brandon Ray, 27:44):
    “For him to be franchise, there's got to be some discontent with the fact that he's now got to go prove it again and he's got to somewhat maybe keep himself in check, which might be a good thing for the Cowboys.”
  • Watch discourse: Bobby is a recent watch collector, while the crew pokes fun at each other's spending habits and the wisdom of player splurges.

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3. Pro Bowl, Olympic Flag Football, and Changing Traditions

Timestamps: 58:29–83:23

• Pro Bowl Evolution:

  • Shift from Hawaii, full-contact games to sanitized flag and skills challenges.
  • Cassel recounts the “old” Pro Bowl (Hawaii, casual practices, hard partying, actual football, minimal intensity) and contrasts it with current lower-stakes, lower-viewership format.

• Flag Football in the Olympics – Guest: Scott Hallenbeck (CEO, USA Flag Football):

  • Olympic flag football is no joke—NFL players are eligible and interested, but the skillset and rules (5-on-5, 25x50yd field, man defense, 7-yard rush) are very different.
  • Team selection will likely mix NFL pros and elite flag specialists.
  • Growth on the women’s side is explosive—16 states have girls flag as a varsity sport, college scholarships and a pro league are coming.
  • Notable Quote (Scott Hallenbeck, 74:42):
    “Honestly, it could be one NFL player, it could be ten… Offensively, probably most of the players. Defensively, … to pull flags, deconstruct a defensive player from—it’s no contact, you literally can't put your hands on the receivers… I think that's going to take a little time. But again, we are talking about absolute freak athletes in the league.”

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4. Player Mentality & Community—Extended Interview: Cam Jordan

Timestamps: 41:03–54:08

• Longevity and Toughness in the NFL:

  • Cam Jordan describes constant physical sacrifice, embracing injury as part of the job, and the “immortal” arrogance needed for NFL survival.
  • Notable Quote (Cam Jordan, 43:13):
    “Between God’s blessings, my mother’s prayers, and luck, what else can you say? ... In the NFL, 100% of injuries happen if you play long enough.”
  • Defensive rule changes frustrate him—DBs can no longer “fear the middle”; QB hits are sanitized.
  • Jordan avoids building friendships with his primary opponents (O-linemen), preferring focus and competitive edge.

• Community Impact:

  • Jordan explains how he learned his adoptive city through outreach, now championing bridging the digital divide, educational infrastructure, and building trust between police and communities.
  • His foundation has sent multiple students to college.

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5. Special Guest: Rob Riggle—Comedy & Perspective

Timestamps: 87:47–94:22

• Rob Riggle reflects on his comedic roles, recent pivot to drama (due to shifting Hollywood trends), and his infamous Bear Grylls adventure.
• Notable Quote (Rob Riggle, 92:43):
  “There should be more than one petal on your flower… So I always appreciate the opportunity to do dramas because it's a muscle I don't get to exercise very often.”
• Shares his dedication to the Pat Tillman Foundation and the deep impact of Pat Tillman's story of service and sacrifice.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• “A horrendous performance is better than a pretty bad performance—he wouldn’t be embarrassed if it was just pretty bad. Now he’s got motivation.” — Bobby Bones on Will Campbell (06:13)
• “If I could do a solo luge, I’m for sure going off the rail and landing on my head and killing myself.” — Bobby Bones (15:54)
• “Now, if a media offer came through and it was like, ‘Hey, Cam, we got Tom Brady numbers for you, brother,’ I’m never looking back. Not that money is ever going to change anything, but…” — Cam Jordan (49:43)
• “Bear [Grylls], he’s pretty fair, isn’t he? … I would never take the chances I took with anybody else.” — Rob Riggle on Bear Grylls, adventure (89:45)
• “If you can’t pay me long term, just pay me now, and then pay me later… but you can only just pay me now.” — Brandon Ray, riffing on player contracts and frustration with the franchise tag (approx. 27:00)

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Key Timestamps for Segments

• Super Bowl Postmortem: Will Campbell, Drake May – 02:41–14:25
• Early Super Bowl/MVP Odds, Franchise Tag Discussion – 17:22–35:41
• Pro Bowl Evolution, Old vs. New – 58:29–65:28
• Cam Jordan Interview: Mindset, Injuries, Community – 41:03–54:08
• Scott Hallenbeck: Flag Football at the Olympics – 69:55–83:08
• Rob Riggle: Comedy, Drama & Bear Grylls – 87:47–94:22

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Tone & Style

The episode is conversational, irreverent, sports-savvy, and frequently self-deprecating. From “postmortem” hot takes on players to grounded interviews with NFL veterans and a dose of celebrity humor, the hosts balance fandom and critique with personal anecdotes.

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Summary for New Listeners

If you missed the episode, you'll gain a sharp understanding of how Super Bowl 60’s outcome has reshaped player reputations, the stakes for rising stars, and how both the league and its traditions are evolving. Cam Jordan’s candidness about pain, pride, and charity provides rare NFL transparency. The segment with Scott Hallenbeck reveals how flag football’s Olympic debut might transform not just a sport, but gender equity and global engagement. Rob Riggle ties things up with reflections on Hollywood and heroism.

Whether you love X’s and O’s, NFL gossip, Olympic dreams, or just want some laughs, this episode has something to say—to everyone.

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[Bobby Bones]

Welcome to another episode. Listen, the game's been over for like three days, but we should do a proper post mortem of the game so it's not really Talk about the game, but talk about the things that are dead from the game. For example, does Will Campbell suck? I think that's question number one, because I think that's.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah. What's your definition of suck, man?

[Bobby Bones]

Not play good and be indicative of how good he really is?

[Brandon Ray]

Yes. Then I would go into that category. Unfortunately, he struggled throughout the playoffs and he had injury late and came back. And I will say this. In his defense, he faced four of the best defenses and you're always going up against the. Their best defensive end if you're that left tackle. But he struggled. He struggled with the power rush, he struggled with speed. I think he set an all time record, what, 20 pressures in the NFL playoffs.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, it was something like that.

[Brandon Ray]

And gave up 10 sacks or something. So I don't know about 10.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, you mean in the play?

[Brandon Ray]

I think not in the Super Bowl. That would have been amazing if that was the case, then.

[Bobby Bones]

Ten sacks in the Super Bowl.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah, I was talking about playoffs. I mean, it was, it was. He was on the struggle bus all. All playoff long and you saw it again in the super bowl and Seattle Seahawks took advantage of it.

[Bobby Bones]

How much of that though is injury and how much of that though is maybe he's just not at the speed they thought he would be at this point?

[Brandon Ray]

Probably a little bit of both. I mean, anytime you come back for injury, and I don't know what exactly he was dealing with in his ailments, so I couldn't speak to that. But at the same time, he had struggles throughout this course of this season. You would love to see that develop and continue to build steam to where he's developed at the end of the season and playing his best football. All that didn't happen because of the setback, I believe, with the. With the injury. But at the end of the day, there was not enough consistency at all throughout the season. And so they have to take a hard look at him at left tackle, if maybe it's a positional movement where he goes inside and plays guard. Because one of the biggest complaints about him coming out was the length of his arms and this, that and the other. But to me it's a major concern because you've got a guy like Drake May that is so talented, you've got to be able to protect him, especially with that position.

[Bobby Bones]

Would the proper demotion be though, from left tackle to right tackle, then inside?

[Brandon Ray]

Potentially. But they're right tackle and I'm also a rookie. Also a rookie.

[Bobby Bones]

Right, Kevin. Left guard.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah, left guard.

[Bobby Bones]

Morgan Moses is right Tackle.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah, Morgan Moses played well. He played well this season for the most part. And so, yes, normally you're saying if you're not working out a left tackle, let's switch him to right tackle. Maybe he doesn't face as dominant as defenders, but nowadays with the versatility of these defensive linemen, they move all around and they're going to try to create a matchup. So you can't hide him somewhere. You have to find. Excuse me, it makes me cry.

[Bobby Bones]

He's crying.

[Brandon Ray]

You have to find a position that works for him because you gave up major draft capital at the third. What was he, the third, fifth pick, something like that in the draft.

[Bobby Bones]

Fourth, fourth pick.

[Brandon Ray]

Well, I was right. Right in between there. So fourth pick in the draft. You want to see if you can one, work on his confidence because right now, obviously his confidence is down. But two, find a position for him where his skill sets can.

[Bobby Bones]

Here's my hot take. I think he's going to be fine. And I think a performance like this is way better than just a pretty bad performance because a pretty bad performance in the offensive line doesn't get noticed that much because we don't notice the offensive line unless it is highlighted to us by the camera and the announcers because it was such a bad performance. I think this is something that he goes back over the offseason and he stays extremely focused all offseason and he comes back even stronger. So I think a horrendous performance is better than a pretty bad performance because a pretty bad performance. He wouldn't be embarrassed.

[Brandon Ray]

That's true. I mean, I agree with that comment wholeheartedly because he's going to go and have to reevaluate the film. As hard as that is, as players at times to go back and watch yourself fail, you're going to grow from that. And I think he's got one of those mentalities. Just listening to him in interviews and seeing him play at the highest level in the SEC in college. This kid's got a tremendous skill set. Now it's about getting back to work and getting back to the grind. And for him being a young player, I expect expect that to happen.

[Bobby Bones]

Kevin Pats fan. Yeah. What is your Will Campbell take? Yeah, I'm not worried yet. You know, if this goes into next year bleeds in a little bit because at the beginning of the year he was doing pretty dang good. They didn't play anybody and then, then he got hurt and he hasn't been the same sense I am a like he's Just got to work at it, like Castle said. And I think he will. I think he has that mindset and that energy to go get better and, you know, not let this knock him down. I think he'll be all right next year.

[Brandon Ray]

I will say this, though. Going into next year, there's going to be a microscope on him and they're going to be watching him because all off season long there's going to be those question marks. And so can he block out that noise and really focus in on what he needs to do to get better? Because I know that Boston media market, they're ruthless and they're going to be talking about this all off season long and they're going to be talking about it in OTAs and when season starts and if there is a bad game early on for Will Campbell, the rumblings will start. So can he have the mental fortitude to overcome all of the media distraction, everything and all the comments being made and not get involved in the media? Because I think that'll take away from him just as much as any anything else. From a confidence standpoint, he was the big loser, right?

[Bobby Bones]

Meaning of everyone, specifically, I think he was more the big loser than Drake May was, even though May played bad as well. If we were to go, here's who. I think it's Will Campbell, then Drake May, and then I think it's your boy Josh, offensive coordinator. I think in my opinion, that's how I would tier biggest loser to mid loser.

[Brandon Ray]

Well, I think you lose as a team, Bobby. I mean, I mean, if we have a bad day at the office, are you going to say, castle, you're number one loser always? Okay, I'm at the bottom of the totem pole. And Brandon Kevin are going to be okay.

[Bobby Bones]

We got too many Pats fans and Pats players.

[Brandon Ray]

No, I'm just saying you win as a team, you lose as a team. And yes, it was a bad offensive performance and we knew going in it was going to be an uphill struggle against this defense for Seattle, who are eight deep on that defensive line. They're good at the second level, they have a good secondary, they've got a great scheme and they've been playing well. I don't think it was just Will Campbell that created some of those pressures.

[Bobby Bones]

No, but he was most is what I'm saying.

[Brandon Ray]

He was most. But the offensive line collectively didn't play well in that game. Drake May obviously had the turnovers, which had been an issue throughout the playoffs as well. And you're always going to be the Focal point if you're the quarterback. And Josh McDaniels. Yes. He's probably sitting there reevaluating how he called the game. Second guessing, hey, should I have done this differently? Should I have used this personnel group take advantage of there. But the fact is they couldn't get anything going. I mean, it was 56 yards in the first half. That is brutal.

[Bobby Bones]

So will Campbell. Number two is Drake May. Does Drake May suck post mortem? He had a really bad playoffs.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah, he did.

[Bobby Bones]

And his nicknames officially changed. It's no longer Drake, Drake May. May. It's now back to Drake. The schedule May.

[Brandon Ray]

Wow on him. Tough today.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm not.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah, everybody is.

[Bobby Bones]

This is separation from the game now.

[Brandon Ray]

Right. He's a young player. I mean, absolutely. Second year in the league to achieve. What he did was second MVP voting. Deservedly so. He helped get this team to this point and he was absolutely the catalyst for it all. At the same time, he knows he's got to play better in the playoffs and he faced some really good defenses and that's how you grow up in this league. And if he would have pulled this off, it would have been absolutely the most remarkable season ever. But he didn't. And now he's got to look back in the mirror once again and reevaluate himself and go into this offseason say, how, how can we get over that hump?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. I feel like the Patriots just, they need to put mirrors up in every room in the facility and everybody should be looking in the mirror all the time. It's nothing but mirror looking. Today we're all going to look in the mirror.

[Brandon Ray]

We're going to stare in the mirror and say, hey, what do you got?

[Bobby Bones]

Today Drake May threw for a bunch of yards. Really great postmortem here.

[Brandon Ray]

He threw for a bunch of yards.

[Bobby Bones]

Really?

[Brandon Ray]

In the fourth quarter.

[Bobby Bones]

Garbage.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

No, I'm talking about just over the season. Oh, yeah.

[Brandon Ray]

Oh, yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

But again, when you look at it as a body of work, they did play that last play schedule. They did play in the playoffs. They played Denver's backup quarterback. Like it was pretty much a kiss from all the angels in heaven. Right. Schedule.

[Brandon Ray]

But did you watch him through the season? Like a lot of the down the field throws, the accuracies.

[Bobby Bones]

I hear you.

[Brandon Ray]

He, he played above and beyond the expectation of what it was going to be this year with a first year offensive coordinator. Them, those two together. No, you're just, you're playing devil's advocate.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm just, you know, being a guy Just asking questions. I think next year could possibly be rough with that first place schedule. To my Patriots guys here now, you'll be playing a first place schedule.

[Brandon Ray]

It always is. When you go out and you win the division and you come back the next year, you have your schedule that you have with wherever it might be, the NFC west or whoever it might be that. That year. And then you play all the top teams from the other conferences. Those are your out of conference games. And it's a much different schedule when you go up against teams like say you've got the Rams and you've got the 49 or Seattle, if you're playing the NFC West, I mean, are those two teams would be your opponents and it's. It's a grind.

[Bobby Bones]

How do you feel, Kevin, going into next year?

[Brandon Ray]

Dang. Wow.

[Bobby Bones]

Definitely not the confident Pats fan. I thought I was going to hear. One performance.

[Brandon Ray]

What a bandwagon fan.

[Bobby Bones]

To be fair, it was more than one performance. The Denver game was not good. No. The offense against the Texans not good. But the Texans had a really good defense, right? Very good.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah. And the Texans turned the ball over five times.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes, The Texans had a rough run for sure. What I'm most worried about is maybe it's just because it just happened this year with the commanders. They took a huge step back as they played that first place schedule, which I understand, but you know, Daniels got hurt, so there's that factor in there. But the reason my biggest concern for Drake, and I love Drake, I mean, I watched him play all year, every game. He looked phenomenal throughout most of the year, but there was no, like, I was just waiting for a turnaround in that game and I just felt like it never got there. Right. When it did, he threw another bad pick. And I know that's probably all in his head. And he's a young player and I get all that, but I feel like either him or Josh McDaniels just got to come together better. Matt knows this more than I do. In a game like that, to be like, all right, what is working for us and what's not? And the fact that they didn't turn around at all until maybe the fourth quarter a little bit, that's my big concern. Yeah. Seattle already dumped a Gatorade and like middle of third. I saw the Gatorade go over the coach's head.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah, they felt pretty confident at that point.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, so game's over. Postmortem. Final postmortem question three days out. Is Sam Darnold that good?

[Brandon Ray]

Sam Darnolds for real. And I think he proved that last year. Obviously, there were a lot of doubts considering his playoff performance in the last game of the year, but then he goes out this year in the consistency of play. And then also he played his best football in the biggest moments this year in the playoffs. And I think that says something about the player and the ability to go out and play. Play in big moments. He won a Super bowl, for God's sakes. Yeah, I think he answered all the questions.

[Bobby Bones]

He's fine.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah, he's pretty good.

[Bobby Bones]

He was okay. He's fine.

[Brandon Ray]

Winning quarterback.

[Bobby Bones]

He is a super. Now that you cannot take away from him.

[Brandon Ray]

Can't take away from him.

[Bobby Bones]

But he's fine.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah, just fine.

[Bobby Bones]

He wasn't six and a half great. Six and a half out of ten. Yeah. Good enough to win a Super bowl if you have a really good. To great defense. So, okay, we're separated enough. I feel like we can then turn over the ball.

[Brandon Ray]

Made the plays when he needed to make.

[Bobby Bones]

Seattle didn't turn over the ball one time all postseason.

[Brandon Ray]

That's what I'm talking about. See, that's playing.

[Bobby Bones]

That's good football. Yeah, that's good. Okay, those are my three postmortem questions. All right, what do you got over there?

[Brandon Ray]

All right. You know, the Winter Olympics are on right now. And I was sitting there the other night, I was asking my wife, I said, what Olympic winter events do you think that you couldn't compete in but you could complete?

[Bobby Bones]

If I had to.

[Brandon Ray]

If you had to. Like any Winter Olympics. And I know that the one which is obvious for both of us probably is curling.

[Bobby Bones]

You feel like, oh, I didn't even think about that.

[Brandon Ray]

You could probably push that, whatever that is, down. Down the straightaway. And I could sit there and you say, sweep. Sweep. And I'd sweep. But some of these skiing and the downhill, free, whatever they call it, it's the most incredible athleticism you've ever seen. These women that I watched the other day are going down, hitting the polls, landing backwards perfectly, doing what, 1400 or whatever they say with revolution.

[Bobby Bones]

Ice skating, huh?

[Brandon Ray]

Well, they have ice. No, this is actually skiing downhill, going off huge ramps.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, off the ramp. Like the jumps.

[Brandon Ray]

The jumps, yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Probably luge.

[Brandon Ray]

Luge, yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

If I had to pick one, like.

[Brandon Ray]

You think you could complete the event?

[Bobby Bones]

I could complete it. I think I could push and then get in.

[Brandon Ray]

Well, that's part of the luge. You got to actually push and get in the thing.

[Bobby Bones]

That's what I think. I Could do.

[Brandon Ray]

That's about it. Like, you got to stay on the track, though. You're going.

[Bobby Bones]

Three other people with me that knows what they're doing. So I'm just going to be the person that like, jumps in and.

[Brandon Ray]

Is there one? There's one event that has one person in it and there's boss.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, I would die. I would die on the solo.

[Brandon Ray]

Lose.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, there's one and then there's three. No, I'm going over the top. I'm going. If I could do a solo luge, I'm going for sure. Going off the rail and landing on my head and killing myself.

[Brandon Ray]

How do they steer, by the way? Anybody know?

[Bobby Bones]

Probably like a sled when you're sledding down a hill.

[Brandon Ray]

But you must have some kind of controls here underneath while you're laying down, because they're laying down flat.

[Bobby Bones]

Aerodynamic in that four person, though. I don't know if there's a steer in there or not. I think you just get in and.

[Brandon Ray]

Pray and hope for the best.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I think you just all jump in, pray. Did you guess the video of the guys in the trials that couldn't get in? Now it's all over. It's a meme America, wasn't it?

[Cam Jordan]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And when they couldn't get in. So they're all flying over the top. Yeah. If I had to pick a winner sport, they'd say, hey, we need you to fill in something. It would be the luge. Because I feel like I could do the least amount of damage at that.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah. What about cross country skiing?

[Bobby Bones]

I've never been skiing, so I. Yeah, that would fall that way.

[Brandon Ray]

And plus you. I think you have to have some serious stamina for that. I don't know if I'm up for that. It would take me a long time.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I like Summer Olympics a lot more, but because we play more of those sports here in America.

[Brandon Ray]

But I'm just amazed at the athletes. The figure skater, what's his name?

[Bobby Bones]

The guy that did the flip.

[Brandon Ray]

Quads and the flip and.

[Bobby Bones]

All I know is they call them. What? Quadzilla. That's all I know, Dude. I don't feel like they've marketed these athletes good enough. I don't even know who that is. And possibly because we don't know the game.

[Brandon Ray]

I think he just won the gold medal.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, he did win. God.

[Brandon Ray]

Quad God.

[Bobby Bones]

Ilya Malinin. They don't call him Quadzilla. I see Quad God. If they don't call him Quadzilla, they mess up.

[Brandon Ray]

That one actually. They should definitely do a short because.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't think I made that one up. Okay, here we go. The odds to win the super bowl next year already. Oh, dude. As soon as the game's over.

[Brandon Ray]

I love betting.

[Bobby Bones]

Number one is Seattle again.

[Brandon Ray]

It's fair.

[Bobby Bones]

They're tied with the team. Tied with a team at +950. Seattle's one. So this team would be one as well.

[Brandon Ray]

The Rams. Yeah, I could see that. I mean, the way that that NFC Championship game went and the three battles that they had this season, I would say that that's a fair statement right now. Just going off of last year.

[Bobby Bones]

Go with three. Guess again.

[Brandon Ray]

Go with three.

[Bobby Bones]

Seattle, the Rams, and then 49ers. 49ers did not make the top 10.

[Brandon Ray]

They didn't make the top 10.

[Bobby Bones]

AFC team.

[Brandon Ray]

AFC team. Ooh. Do I go with the Chief?

[Bobby Bones]

No.

[Brandon Ray]

Maybe. Let's go with the Bells.

[Bobby Bones]

The bills at number three, plus 1100. Eagles at four, Patriots at five. I'm honestly surprised they're high. I am, too.

[Brandon Ray]

God, you guys just.

[Bobby Bones]

I know. I don't know why. Because I don't hate the Super Bowl. I know. It's still 17 and 4. It's so fresh.

[Brandon Ray]

I know.

[Bobby Bones]

Give it a week.

[Brandon Ray]

It's his second season, for God's sakes. They're going to go out and spend some more money, get the. You know, fill some holes, build off of a great defense that they have.

[Bobby Bones]

Nobody's arguing with you.

[Brandon Ray]

Okay. You are.

[Scott Hallenbeck]

I'm not arguing.

[Brandon Ray]

Believe they're in number five.

[Bobby Bones]

But I wasn't arguing with anyone. I just can't.

[Cam Jordan]

I know.

[Brandon Ray]

I just like to argue.

[Bobby Bones]

Ravens, packers at 7, Lions at 8, Chargers at 9, Chiefs at 10. I'm all in on the Chiefs.

[Brandon Ray]

I think the Chiefs are going to.

[Bobby Bones]

Have a comeback here at 1500, and they're going to play a weaker schedule. Like part of what happened last year. Obviously, a little aging, but I think they're drafting, like, nine, which is crazy high for the Chiefs, at least in recent memory, because they've won or got close to winning for the past. They've won three, eight, ten years.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah. They went to five Super Bowls and won three of them.

[Bobby Bones]

Both the Bengals and the Chiefs are drafting up high. I think both of those teams could be really good next year. But, yeah, the chiefs at number 10 at 1500.

[Brandon Ray]

So Tennessee Titans aren't on there.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't even think they put them on the list. Like, they're not even one of the NFL teams.

[Brandon Ray]

I think this is a team though that look, they were awful this year. I get it. Yeah, Robert Sala comes in, Brian Dabel, Cam Ward is a promising young quarterback in this league. They've got over $100 million in cap space that they can go out and spend. They've got a high draft pick as well. They've got draft capital. So I mean, you sit here and you talk about these team that make these huge shifts from one year to the next. They're in a position right now not only to spend money to better themselves in the draft and they bring in a guy like Robert Sala and somebody that's done it in the offensive side of the ball with Brian Dabel and also been a head coach, they could surprise some teams this year.

[Bobby Bones]

I think one of the things that the Titans have to do next year is let the organization organize and not be an owner always meddling.

[Brandon Ray]

Yes, the owner needs to stay out of it and they need to let the football people do the football thing and go out there and with from your GM to your head coach make those decisions. Who are we bringing in from a personal personnel standpoint and then let the chips fall where they may.

[Bobby Bones]

I love letting the chips fall.

[Brandon Ray]

I mean, isn't it the best?

[Bobby Bones]

I love letting chips fall.

[Brandon Ray]

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[Bobby Bones]

MVP odds. You want to play or let me.

[Brandon Ray]

Tell you MVP odd. Let's play.

[Bobby Bones]

All right, you bet 100 bucks. Go ahead.

[Brandon Ray]

Okay, I bet a hundred dollars. I'm gonna go with Josh Allen.

[Bobby Bones]

So far you've won 100 bucks. He is at number one. The favorite for the MVP next year at plus 550. I believe he was third this year because it went Stafford, Drake, May, Josh Allen, Justin Herbert. Yeah, I think he had two votes. And then Christian McCaffrey possibly at five. Okay, boom.

[Brandon Ray]

So I got that. Number two. I am going to go with Matthew Stafford. No, no, not on the list at all. No, not in the top.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, not in the top five. Three, five, six, eight.

[Brandon Ray]

Lamar Jackson at number two.

[Bobby Bones]

Lamar Jackson. So it's Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson and.

[Brandon Ray]

Number three, Jalen Hurts, Patrick Mahomes, Patty.

[Bobby Bones]

They don't make it one year and everybody sleeps. He's back at plus 1,000. Herbert at four, Burrow at five. Drake, May at five, Dak at. I guess that would be seven and Stafford at eight. Dax always in the mix.

[Brandon Ray]

He's in the mix from.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, he's always pre and mid preseason. Dax in the mix. The middle of the year. Dax usually in the mix, but man, the Cowboys just don't win.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah, but they've got, they've got a lot of draft capital too. Don't they have two first rounders this year? And they're talking about bringing Pickens back, which.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, they're franchises.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah, they're franchising them.

[Bobby Bones]

Right. So they're not talking about like, oh.

[Brandon Ray]

Then he's going to have CD Lamb and Pickens back. He'll, he'll put up some numbers for sure.

[Bobby Bones]

Would you want to be franchise?

[Brandon Ray]

I did. I was franchise.

[Bobby Bones]

If you're him.

[Brandon Ray]

I think that's the only way to keep him in the building without paying him and committing long term money to somebody that has obviously proven that he can be a headache and go off the rails at times. Even last season, you saw it. He's got a temperament that you sit there as ownership and you try to put that aside because he is a phenomenal player. If he could ever get the mental side of it together with the physical side, you'd sit there and go, man, he's probably one of the best wide receivers in the game, but he can become a distraction. And that's the worry, I think, with every organization in George Pickens going back to the Steelers, even last year at different points in the season. But if you just talk about raw talent, my goodness, the guy's special.

[Bobby Bones]

I wouldn't want to be franchise to fight with him and I would be a bit annoyed. Yeah, you're making good money. You're making the average of the, you know, top five wide receivers or whatever that that is. But the sentiment was as he was dominating this year. He's Going to get paid. He's going to get paid. He's going to get paid. Yeah, he's getting paid, but he's getting paid on a one year deal and then he's also risking injury and headache.

[Brandon Ray]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

Because if he gets hurt or if he's a headache again, I think that hurts what he's worth going forward where if you're him, you were just going to get paid if they didn't franchise you, you're going to go somewhere and you're going to get a multi year deal and you were going to get paid. So if I'm him, I'm a bit irritated that I have to play through the franchise tag.

[Brandon Ray]

There's no doubt about that. And I think that's the issue with a lot of guys that get franchise. They've proven themselves, they're here to set up a second contract, maybe it's a third contract, go out and make their money. And that's where you make your money in the, in the NFL. And for him to be franchise, there's got to be some discontent with the fact that he's now got to go prove it again and he's got to somewhat maybe keep himself in check, which might be a good thing for the Cowboys.

[Bobby Bones]

He almost kept himself in check last year until the end of the season.

[Brandon Ray]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

Like that was the story. Like Pickens is awesome. And also when Ceedee was out a bit, he definitely showed he could be a number one. But he also kept his mental game right for most of the year until he went off and then he was off again.

[Brandon Ray]

Right. And that's, that's the issue that you have, as any organization that are going to bring in George Pickens is you have to calculate that into the equation and say, is he a guy that at some point is going to be more of a distraction than a help on the football field? If you, if it was just football and you turned on the film, you go, oh, I pay that guy today. Four year, whatever it is, whatever your dollar amount is, I'll take you, you'll be your number one. But, but the fact is he's proven time and time again that he does have that quality about himself. And that's the issue.

[Bobby Bones]

When you got franchised, was it in New England and they held you to go to Kansas City?

[Brandon Ray]

That's exactly right. It was because there was some complications with Brady coming back. And so they franchised me so I wouldn't walk out of that building. And then once they understood that Brady's coming back, that's when they had my rights and got to make the decision basically for me of who they were going to trade me to.

[Bobby Bones]

Was it so cool to get paid, though? Yeah, I mean, that was awesome.

[Brandon Ray]

Not going to lie. When I saw them, they sent over the franchise contract and I was sitting there, I was like, hold on, what does that say? It's the average of what I really didn't understand. I knew that they had my rights, but didn't understand what that meant in terms of money. And it was obviously, I was a seventh round draft pick making league minimum for the first four years of my career. And then when I saw that, I was like, just tell me, where do I sign? Just. I don't need to read.

[Bobby Bones]

No attorney needed.

[Brandon Ray]

I don't need to read any of this. Just give me it. Boom. I signed it and then parlayed that into my contract with the Chiefs.

[Bobby Bones]

That's so cool.

[Brandon Ray]

It was great. There's something to be said about when you see a check for the first time and think that it can make an impact on your life in such a different way.

[Bobby Bones]

You get paid every game, every two weeks.

[Brandon Ray]

Organizations do it differently. Normally. Some teams will do it every week, some teams will do it every two weeks and just. And then there are organizations that you have the ability to pay yourself out throughout the entirety of the year.

[Bobby Bones]

So instead of getting it every year.

[Brandon Ray]

Like lump sums just during the season, you can do it throughout the course of the year.

[Bobby Bones]

Could you just get like a regular check even in the off season though?

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Bobby Bones]

So you're saying probably safer to do that.

[Brandon Ray]

Probably be safer for some guys. Yeah. I've definitely seen the guys that go out and get their first contract as a fourth runner and buy a Maserati or something like that and I'm going to. What the hell did you do that for? What did you buy a couch?

[Bobby Bones]

Nice.

[Brandon Ray]

I did. I went out and bought myself a Restoration Hardware leather couch.

[Bobby Bones]

That's nice though.

[Brandon Ray]

I was pretty pleased with it. Still have it today. One of. Yeah, I'm a very simple guy, you know, I'm not a flashy yet, dude. I'm not going to go out and, you know, buy a car or jewelry or anything like that. Just give me a nice couch I can sit on and hang out.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you have any jewelry at all?

[Brandon Ray]

My wedding ring and an apple watch that keeps my steps, but that's about it.

[Cam Jordan]

Yeah.

[Brandon Ray]

You have any jewelry? I could see you as like a bling guy, like a little something around the neck. Are you a watch guy?

[Bobby Bones]

Like in the last two to three years I became a watch guy.

[Brandon Ray]

Are you one that goes out and seeks out rare?

[Bobby Bones]

Not anymore. And not rare, but nice. I probably have 12 to 15 really nice watches.

[Brandon Ray]

So that was your cutoff when you slowed down 12 to 15, just in case you need to tell time on your ankle or something like that?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, it's a good point. I feel like I slowed down because I couldn't find any that were so different than the ones that I had.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And I just became bored with trying to find super nuance.

[Brandon Ray]

Got it.

[Bobby Bones]

Because like this one here, this is a red Rolex. I love red.

[Brandon Ray]

Yes, of course. Speaks to you.

[Bobby Bones]

I was looking for a red faced Rolex and I finally found this one.

[Brandon Ray]

Boom.

[Bobby Bones]

Got it off the list. I've got a few that I'm super happy with and proud of. And some I break out for like super special occasions. So I became a watch guy. I guess I am a watch guy. I know the difference in the watches now. I don't really wear jewelry. The rings I have on now are. This is an oura ring.

[Brandon Ray]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

And then this is my wedding ring. And it's silicone. It's rubber.

[Brandon Ray]

You asked your wife for a silicone ring?

[Bobby Bones]

No, but here's the real story.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah, let's see. When you lost your ring.

[Bobby Bones]

I didn't lose it. But I don't lose stuff. You think I'm a guy that loses stuff?

[Brandon Ray]

I mean there's potential if you're wearing a rubber ring.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm just, I'm very catchy.

[Brandon Ray]

Do you still have.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh yeah. Here's the ring that I have. So I go and I pick out my wife's engagement ring. She didn't have anything to do with picking it out. I picked it out.

[Brandon Ray]

I can see that by you because you're a gift giver.

[Bobby Bones]

I am. And crushed with it. It was an amazing ring.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah. I mean there is such an inequality when it comes to ring buying for weddings.

[Bobby Bones]

So I bought me a ring, a guy ring that's made of, I don't know, whatever it's made of.

[Brandon Ray]

What is it, gold and diamonds?

[Bobby Bones]

It's not gold, but it's a silver. And I put diamonds all on the inside of it.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah, you did.

[Bobby Bones]

And then I just don't like wearing it.

[Brandon Ray]

Hold on. You bought yourself your own wedding ring?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Brandon Ray]

That's really forcing the hand of her. Don't worry, babe, I've got everything taken care of.

[Bobby Bones]

That one.

[Brandon Ray]

I got my ring.

[Bobby Bones]

She went with me for the Cause I'd already given her hers. But there's a difference. I gave her her engagement ring.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah. And then you gotta get the wedding ring.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, then we went to get the wedding band. We did that together and it was smaller. But then we were buying mine and it was like, you can buy this one for like $110. I'm like all that I spent. Like I wanna. But I don't ever wear it because I don't like ring. I don't like hard rings on my hand.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm throwing up the bench press, you know.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah.

[Cam Jordan]

Yeah.

[Brandon Ray]

Dude, I've never taken this. I did.

[Bobby Bones]

And I'm left handed. I don't like wearing rings, so I have to wear my rings. That sucks.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah. I almost lost it. One day I was coming up, I would just leave it on for practice and forget about it. And then one day I was coming off and I could not find my ring and it was somewhere on the practice field. Luckily a rookie was out there and I asked him if they would go look. He went and looked. He found the ring. I was like, yes, yes. But that was the only time I got close. So I've had this thing for 19 years.

[Bobby Bones]

Wow.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah. How about that? Never lost it.

[Bobby Bones]

Also crazy that you've been married 19 years.

[Brandon Ray]

Pretty crazy, right?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Good for you.

[Brandon Ray]

Thank you. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

My ring though is pretty balder. I'll wear it one day.

[Brandon Ray]

You'll like it.

[Bobby Bones]

It's got a bunch of diamonds in the inside.

[Brandon Ray]

Why on the inside? Wouldn't that be more uncomfortable?

[Matt Castle]

Well, it could be both.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, no, no, no, not underneath, so.

[Brandon Ray]

Okay, now we're starting to hear.

[Bobby Bones]

And it's on the inside.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Lovely ring.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah, I like it.

[Bobby Bones]

No, no. A lot of bling.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Love bling.

[Scott Hallenbeck]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I just don't like wearing jewelry.

[Brandon Ray]

But the thing about watches too, they. They hold their value.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. For the most part.

[Brandon Ray]

Like it's not like a car that you drive off the lot and you lose 20, 20% on it immediately. It depreciates. It's one of those things that the trade in value is usually pretty substantial or close to what you paid for it. If it's one of the watches that you obviously own. 15 of them.

[Bobby Bones]

You never became a watch guy, huh?

[Brandon Ray]

No. If I just need to tell time. Just give me something that can tell time.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I have my phone for that. So if it's about telling time. Yeah, I like my cell phone.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah, it's true. I mean, one of the gifts that Brady gave me was a movado watch. And it's probably the nicest watch I have. I maybe have. I do have two watches. I've got the Movado watch, and I've got this watch. And I can appreciate a nice piece like that. When you're dressed up and you've got to go out, you're not wearing this apple watch. It makes you. It adds a little something to the fit.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't want to be the one to tell you this, but we call you Ol Apple because everybody laughs at you.

[Brandon Ray]

Because. Yeah, well, you should see my steps, dude. I crush that thing. And then how many times a week does it tell me? You completed five workouts this week.

[Cam Jordan]

That's right.

[Bobby Bones]

We don't call you a Apple. Don't worry, you know, Old Apple, that my apple watch. Because I have an apple watch. I rarely wear it because I always forget to charge it.

[Brandon Ray]

It's really. There's this thing that goes in the.

[Bobby Bones]

Wall and then it goes right out.

[Brandon Ray]

Of your bed, and you just kind of plop it on there at night.

[Bobby Bones]

Familiar.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah. Oh, you like to sleep with it to see your rhythms.

[Bobby Bones]

That's why I wear my ring, my Oura ring.

[Brandon Ray]

Oh, is that what it tracks?

[Bobby Bones]

Sleep. Mostly sleep. I use it for sleep every night.

[Brandon Ray]

Do you really? Well, what do you find out about your sleep? Do you sleep well?

[Bobby Bones]

No, I know I don't sleep well, but it'll tell me how long I slept, where my heart rate was. It gives you, like a readiness score, how good your body feels that day. Sometimes it'll go. You have stressors. And so it's indicated, these stressors. And usually that means I'm about to get sick. And that's crazy when it does that.

[Brandon Ray]

Doesn't it play with your mind, though?

[Bobby Bones]

Yes, but I would say the other way. It works, too, where if I feel like I got garbage sleep and I look down and it says I got six and a half or seven hours, which is rare for me. I'm like, dang, I should feel good. And I talk myself into feeling good for the same reason.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah. So it's a little bit of back and forth.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. But I believe it.

[Brandon Ray]

Do you believe it?

[Scott Hallenbeck]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Because I can work out and it'll tell me how long I worked out what my heart rate was.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah, that's what an apple watch does all that.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. But I wear it as a ring.

[Brandon Ray]

And you don't have to charge it.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I have to charge it, like once every six days. It's not a commercial, by the way. I don't have any deal with before we get to Cam, Jordan and our guests. I just wanted to save this for the last part of this segment.

[Brandon Ray]

Perfect.

[Bobby Bones]

What's it like to lose a Super Bowl?

[Brandon Ray]

I know.

[Bobby Bones]

Because you did.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah. I mean, I'm telling you, it's hard.

[Bobby Bones]

I just want to know what it's like. Like in the locker room, you got to fly all that.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah. It's an emotional scene in the locker room after, because you put everything into the season. You know, you might not get another opportunity to go to the super bowl just like the one that I went to in 2007. We didn't go back to the super bowl the rest of my career, and I played 14 years, but I think that's the feeling for a lot of guys in the locker room when they know that they are at the cusp of greatness and have that moment that they've worked their entire life for, and it slips through them or they don't have a good performance. And so there's some guys that are obviously visibly emotional. There's other guys sitting there in their locker room, I mean, in their locker, trying to kind of take. Take it all in. A lot of guys giving hugs and going around, and there's those leaders that are saying, keep your head up and go that route. So it's difficult because it sticks with you. And then you're always playing that over and over. And it's not for a few months after the fact that you finally can move forward and start getting yourself prepared for the next season.

[Bobby Bones]

But you were year four, right. Or year three, so you probably.

[Brandon Ray]

I thought maybe.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, you're so young in your career that maybe you think with all the years, there's a possibility where I would assume if you're a veteran and you've played in the league 10 years or so, and that happens, it's probably a lot harder.

[Brandon Ray]

Right. And I think a guy like Junior Sejao, who came in that year and was a leader on our team, a vocal leader, would break us down before we'd go out. It hit him hard, for sure. I mean, because it was his last opportunity. A guy like Randy Moss, who's there, who's had a phenomenal career and had an outstanding season that year, that hit him hard. Brady, same thing. Because Brady, his expectation is greatness. And I don't think it was until I left New England that I realized not just how hard it is to get to the super bowl, how hard it is to win consistently in the playoffs because there's so many changes that take place every year for every organization, whether it's free agents leaving, coaches leaving. When you're successful, normally your team's going to change dramatically in many ways going into the next season. So that one season or that one team will never be the same. And so there's a lot of pride that goes into what went into that season. The guys that you worked with, the brotherhood, and then to reach it and actually not be able to achieve it, it can be very difficult.

[Bobby Bones]

Was there a point in that game where you're going, okay, now we're not going to win?

[Brandon Ray]

You know, I always thought that we were on the cusp there. And then it, it was when Plaxico Burris ran that sluggo and went in and I don't know how much time was on the clock, but it wasn't much. And we, I don't think we had any timeouts and we had to go 80 that I was like this. We might not win, we might not win. And I still thought, I thought some kind of crazy play where Brady's going to throw it up to Moss, 70 yards downfield, he's going to make a miraculous catch, we're going to get back and win the game. But that was the point when I was like, ooh, I'm a little worried.

[Bobby Bones]

Here because I feel like that's what happened to New England this year on that interception or maybe even the three and out outside of half. But even after the half the three and out happens, there's still a lot of game left and you're only down, what, nine, right?

[Brandon Ray]

I think the big changing point for them was when they got the three and out. They had Seattle backed up, they got a three and out. Milton wins, had the sack, they have the punt. Jonathan Jones has a great return block in the back, brings them back and then they turn over the ball. I mean, that was a moment. Still down, I think at that point, 9 nothing to where you go make a move and start, go in and even get three points and get a little momentum. They just never captured momentum that entire game. And that was a huge turning point.

[Bobby Bones]

I believe we're going to go now and talk to Cam Jordan, New Orleans Saints all time sack leader, future hall of Famer. Cam is an eight time Pro Bowler. He had 10.5 sacks or 10 and a half. You don't say 10.5, you say 10.5. I say 10 and a half. 10 and a half?

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, he had 10 and a half sacks this past year. Has his own podcast called off the Edge With Cam Jordan. So check that out. Did you ever play with Cam?

[Brandon Ray]

I did not. He's been a saint his entire career.

[Bobby Bones]

Did you ever play against Cam?

[Brandon Ray]

Sure did. And he is a beast, really. Oh, man.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you hear him?

[Brandon Ray]

Huh? You hear he's. He constantly is chattering. You'll hear it on the interview. I mean, obviously he knows how to talk and he knows he's got swagger to him. And he's one of the better ones that you play against because you're constantly going to hear him.

[Matt Castle]

Here he is.

[Bobby Bones]

Cam George. Cam Jordan. Good to see you, man.

[Cam Jordan]

Hey, pleasure. Pleasure for having me on.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you feel like since you're doing the podcast and you're also playing, do you feel like there are things you can't say because while you're playing there's.

[Cam Jordan]

Been many controversial topics that I've approached? No, I say what I want, when I want. If you don't feel some type of way about it. Luckily, I'm still currently playing, so if an offensive lineman feels like he's not fat, show me me. Or if he's not athletic or whatever that is, show me. Like, I saw Garrett Bowles in the Pro bowl out there. Arthur snagging, snagging a couple tudies. I said, okay, we're in the cusp. Like, he wasn't catching separation, but we're on the cusp. I see what you did there. You know, I, I love the idea that I can talk trash about maybe a quarterback or whatever that is in a polite way that isn't degrading towards, you know, the entire quarterback system, but make a statement of how I'm going to tackle, man. Do so accordingly. Or if we lose, let's talk about it hurts. Nobody goes into a game trying to lose. I think I'm going to win every game by 50 and I'm proven wrong sometimes.

[Brandon Ray]

Talk, talk about your longevity in the league. You've been doing it for a long time. You. You're the sack leader, like for the Saints, which is incredible in itself.

[Cam Jordan]

Talking about season of career.

[Brandon Ray]

Cuz you're both career, career and season, whatever.

[Bobby Bones]

Covering it all.

[Brandon Ray]

He's covering it all. Hey, he's like, hey, let me tell you one, one statement.

[Cam Jordan]

Oh, I know a guy. Yeah.

[Brandon Ray]

What do you, what would you say is the key to your longevity?

[Cam Jordan]

Oh, man. Honestly, you could say the way that I attack off season workouts or the way that I treat my body with prehab, but there's so many guys that do that. There's no one individual thing, like I've been able to play all the games in my career except these two. One because of COVID one because the coaches said that I was not. Wasn't allowed to play with a broken bone when I played with plenty of broken bones before. It's, I mean, between God's blessings, my mother's prayers and, and luck, what else can you say? Because you could be as healthy as you want to be. You could be as strong as you want to be. You could put as much emphasis on training the, the, the ligaments around your core muscles. Guess what? Something's going to tear. Are you willing, are you willing enough to play through it? In NFL, 100% of injuries happen if you play long enough. You know, I, I can remember breaking my first, you know, meta metacarpal my rookie year on like a Tuesday or Wednesday. I was playing by Sunday. You say, hey, Cam, do you want to play? Absolutely, I do. And, you know, I've had high ankle sprains on one ankle and then having low ankle sprain on the other ankle. I'm out there looking like a pony, and I watch Geno Smith run to the outside and cut up and I can't pivot. I'm like, dang, maybe I shouldn't have been out here. But at the same time, I've bent the corner and stopped the run and did everything else in it. It's all about enabling yourself with the, the confidence. And then it just builds over time. Like, oh, yeah, you got a, you know, lower. A lower back problem. You got an L4, L5 that's going to have a disectomy surgery at the end of season. All right, but can I play? And if I can get out there and play to what my standard is, I'm going. It's all about the want to at the end of the day. And half of it, honestly, is that arrogant, like, confidence of we're mortals and we're immortals Portal in that moment, right? Like, we, we're immortalized through the pain. Like, oh, my God, I can't believe he actually got out there and he separated his shoulder last week and he's still playing. You saw Fred Warner this year dislocate his ankle, right? And we all saw the clips of him by players out there freaking coming downhill. I'm like, this dude is unreal. The, the legends of the game, the legendary stories of what makes the game so great. You see a guy, we, we applaud a basketball player that, that, that, you know, that they'll play with a broken finger. That happens every other Game, if not every other play for some guys, like, my finger pops this way, and I just pop back in.

[Scott Hallenbeck]

You.

[Cam Jordan]

You grab. You know, you grab a little a tongue lozenger and bite on it.

[Scott Hallenbeck]

Pause.

[Rob Riggle]

Whoa.

[Cam Jordan]

And then you hit. Readjust it, and you go back in. You know it.

[Rob Riggle]

You.

[Cam Jordan]

You have times where you may have a broken wrist or even a slightly fractured wrist, and you just put wrist tape on it. Some of the few times I have to. To wear a wrist tape, like, I'm. I'm here to be. They say the best ability is availability, and I bought fully in on this. In high school.

[Bobby Bones]

Which quarterback can you get to but has been the hardest to take down once you get to him.

[Cam Jordan]

A guy like Lamar Jackson, for whatever reason, is hard for me because he's a ducker. Like, I'm trying to. Like, in today's rules, you can't just pop them underneath the chain anymore. You can't just, like, murder them outright. You have to, like, calmly ask them, hey, is it okay if I touch you? I'm about to put hands on you. And. Oh, by the way, land ever so just softly on the.

[Scott Hallenbeck]

No.

[Cam Jordan]

It's hard. As fast as he is, as quick as he is. I remember I hit him multiple times. One game, and I ducked. He ducked over. He spam out. He. I was like, what the hell? Is it me? I said, maybe I don't have anyone. The next game, I have, like, two sacks against their car. Whoever. Whoever's next. I was like, it's just him. For some whatever reason, I remember, I hit. I tried to murder him, too. I said, screw it. I'm going for it. I try to hit him. He ducks. I go over the top. He rolls out. I get up and I slap his ankles, and he still, like, jumps off one foot, throws a dot to the side. I'm like, you know what? He's mvp.

[Bobby Bones]

Different.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah, he's different. I mean, that's true. Are you a firm believer that the league sets up rules that go against the defensive?

[Cam Jordan]

That's not.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah.

[Cam Jordan]

What's the rules that I hate the most for dbs.

[Brandon Ray]

For. For dbs. How about the hip tackle?

[Cam Jordan]

It's the targeting situation, right? Defenseless players, like a quarterback. I. I saw Carl Grandison this year hit a quarterback. Of course, it was his blind side because he plays primarily to the guy's blind side. He hit him. It wasn't even vicious. They call flag right. It's. It's the wide receivers who run free, the Titans who are not scared anymore to go over the middle you used to have to fear the middle. It used to be like your quarterback, you better not place me in a bad position. He used to be a quarterback's fault. And now we're like, I can't believe this safety came down from deep third and made this incredible tackle on this wide receiver who's going 22 miles per across the middle. And how dare he lay him out right. What I. I mean, I love those hits. I was born off the Dion Dawkins.

[Lowe's Advertiser]

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[Cam Jordan]

I was raised in the Joey Browner era. I saw guys fear that middle. If you would have told John Randall he couldn't blindside his a quarterback. Are you kidding me? Reggie White, they were like grabbing them in headlocks as they go down. Like, go to sleep, little fella. And now I've got to like, hit him with the pillow. Hey, I'm coming.

[Bobby Bones]

Are you as vocal on the field?

[Cam Jordan]

Loves everybody.

[Bobby Bones]

Are you as vocal on the field?

[Cam Jordan]

Absolutely. I love. I love being a vocal leader. I mean, who I am doesn't change 247 now. The older I get, the more guys kill me with kindness now and at least completely taking me out of my game. I'm like, yeah, respectful. About to drive you in the dirt. Hey, man, you have a really good play, bro. Like, hey, man, respect. Like, don't, don't. Pregame. Like, hey, bro, respect everything you've done. I respect you too.

[Brandon Ray]

I want to.

[Cam Jordan]

What are we doing here exactly?

[Brandon Ray]

Let's compete. All right. How about offensive lineman? Young offensive lineman. You gone up in the league this year. Who do you think that is going to have some longevity? Come on, you.

[Cam Jordan]

You got to go of my way to disrespect these. I go out of my way to make sure that we're not. Friend.

[Brandon Ray]

There's got to be one. One guy that. You have no idea. Nobody. Yeah, no, you don't respect him.

[Cam Jordan]

Taylor. Taylor Moton.

[Bobby Bones]

Favorite Tristan.

[Cam Jordan]

Tristan Wor. I'm just going to say names that I know it, hopefully. Yeah, exactly. They're good people. I'm sure maybe dap me up after the game. I mean, I'm.

[Matt Castle]

I'm a.

[Rob Riggle]

Respect.

[Cam Jordan]

Respect them, absolutely. But it's like, I don't want to know their names because I don't want to know things about them. I treat them as like, oh, yeah, number 67 for the week. And then I do automatically try to forget them because I don't want to be like, man, after you build a rapport with them, you're like, I actually like this guy. Damn it. I can't like this guy because I'm trying to punch a hole in his chest. Like, I don't have the ability to like, oh, man, we're friends and I don't want to hurt him. No, no, I, I have to do my job. I'm going to do my job. If I know your name, it's probably not that positive. I'm like, oh, I'm dog walking him.

[Bobby Bones]

What's the goal? How many more years do you want before you transition into what feels like an automatic media career?

[Cam Jordan]

It could be today.

[Bobby Bones]

It ain't gonna be today.

[Cam Jordan]

Hey, Some, come on, come on. Tell us on the podcast if a media, if a media offer came through and it was like, hey, Cam, we got Tom Brady numbers for you, brother. I'm never looking back. Not that money is ever going to change anything, but at this day and age, I look at it as a respect factor. Yeah, right. I, I've, I've played for a team, I've given money back. I've, you know, I had money taken from me. Whatever, whatever. You want to say that, that sentence. And I was like, yo, like, because of that, I know that they're going to try and limit snaps because they're, they put faith or they put whatever it is into a different position. Right. Money is respect. And I think I've seen that as after the first contract. I don't really care what the top dollar is or the lowest dollar is, is put it to where you have to respect my, my, my ability and put. Actually want to put me in a better place too. I'd like, I'd like a blitz named after me. I love when they say, hey, Cam, this will get you free. Yeah, we're gonna have five guys up at the front line. I'm going to get a one on one for sure. I love that. If we talk about, you know, oh, oh, well, you start projecting whatever it is, at some point, money is not going to make or break me. At this point, in my case career, I've been blessed enough to have stayed with the same team for 15 years and they've showed tremendous amount of love and respect for me over the years and I've got nothing but tremendous amount of love and respect for New Orleans and I will have for the rest of my life. So at this point, I just want to be valued.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah, talk to me about the community service you've done in New Orleans because obviously you've been up for the Walter Payton man of the year multiple times and you do a lot of great work. Talk about the passion there, man.

[Cam Jordan]

First, again, it was sort of selfish that I started talking to the middle schools and elementaries and high schools around New Orleans. Honestly, I was just trying to know my area, you know, So I was driving out in Baton Rouge and I was talking to, you know, I was talking to people out. Was it Eunice and going to New Iberia and possibly, like, just seeing what's out in the world. Like, man, for me, being from Arizona, I've got Chandler, Tempe, Mesa, Scottsdale, Peoria, all these surrounding cities is just easily accessible. In New Orleans, it. Sometimes it just feels like it's New Orleans because 45 minutes away is your nearest city to get somewhere. Baton Rouge.

[Brandon Ray]

Right.

[Cam Jordan]

You know, but it's like, all right, so what about these subdivisions? What am I.

[Scott Hallenbeck]

What.

[Cam Jordan]

How can I impact my community? I don't know much about the south being a West coast, kid. I. I know California. I know Arizona. I know. I know, you know, southwest Mexican food. Like, I don't. And it's a staple for me. I get to. I get to New Orleans and I'm eating gator bites and boudin balls and, oh, it's a lockout year. So I don't know anybody. I'm just like, I got dropped off in the South. Hey, kid, figure it out. No, you don't have your signing bonus hit yet because we don't know if we're going to have a season. I'm like, it's me, and I'm meeting people and I'm talking to the local bartenders. I'm talking to guys. I mean, at Best Buy guys. I mean, at Target, hey, man, you should try out this food. And the greatest thing about the south is they're so endearing. They bring you in. So after giving, shown that much love, I'm like, man, I got to give back. So beyond just talking, talking to kids in high school is knowing where I'm at. How can I help my community? Oh, there's. There's a digital divide. How can I help break this down? Oh, there's an impairment of trust and relations between, you know, the police and as well in terms of how they're policing the public. How can I help that? You know, how do we bring in. How do we bring in leaders to community leaders and introduce that into, you know, into the police force, which may help because they got transplant police officers that don't know the. The lingo. They don't know the. The body mannerisms of what it is to be a New Orleanian. How is it that I can, you know, sit here and talk about, you know, how I want to help the next generation without actually going to these schools, seeing these schools and they got broken binders and they've got, you know, they don't have WI fi in, in 2020 or something, or they don't have the greatest science labs. I'm like, yo, there's so many avenues we can get to how beyond just money. Give time, give effort, you know, grant some of those Amazon wish list that teachers have because they're coming out of their own pocket, which is crazy to me. They're not making enough money to come out of pocket. And yet they do because that's the kind of heart they have. When you see all these people that give back, you're like, man, how can I not want to give back as well.

[Bobby Bones]

Off the Edge with Cam Jordan the Podcast. Appreciate the time.

[Cam Jordan]

Absolutely.

[Bobby Bones]

Stay healthy.

[Cam Jordan]

Appreciate you for having me. I just went on a tangent. Shout out to the Cam Jordan Foundation. We were able to send four kids to school last year, another four this year. We pay for all the tuition. The legacy scholarship program that we've had over the Cam Jordan foundation has been phenomenal and I can't wait to say one day, like, oh man, I sent, you know, this generation to school. Not that it's able, but whatever money we, we raise, we're definitely trying to push through to, to them.

[Bobby Bones]

That's awesome. Appreciate the time.

[Brandon Ray]

Thanks. Cam.

[Cam Jordan]

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[Bobby Bones]

I watched some of the Pro bowl games. Very little of them.

[Brandon Ray]

The Pro bowl games.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, yeah, no, that's called the Pro bowl games now.

[Brandon Ray]

The intramural stuff that they do.

[Bobby Bones]

Flag football. It's the little other games. So the ratings are disaster. But they're supposed to be, because everyone knows that's not that interesting.

[Brandon Ray]

Right?

[Bobby Bones]

But you actually, when you were a Pro bowl quarterback, you went to Hawaii. Yeah.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah, dude. That was the good old days.

[Bobby Bones]

I just want to know what the experience was like in general.

[Brandon Ray]

It was incredible because one, being named to the Pro bowl is obviously an honor. But then when you get to that destination in Hawaii and you get to stay at that hotel and you walk in and there's Ray Lewis and Suggs and Matt Light and Peyton Manning and Drew Brees and all these guys that you've watched over the years be that successful, it's. It's one of those moments where you kind of pinch yourself. Right. You're amongst greatness. And Coach Belichick happened to be our coach that year.

[Bobby Bones]

Is that because you won the super bowl the year before? Is that how the coach.

[Brandon Ray]

No, it's whoever loses in the afc, AFC Championship and NFC Championship. Of that year. Yes, of that year, they have to go and coach in the Pro Bowl. Or at least they used to, nowadays. Yeah, they got celebrity coach.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Brandon Ray]

But back then, those guys. Not only did you lose in the AFC Championship or the NFC Championship, but then you have to go coach the Pro Bowl. And so. But the setup was so cool because it's only you and your families. And I brought out my family, I brought out my wife's family, some of my best friends to experience it with me, because it's something that's special for all of them and the people that support you through the years to give them access like that be around. But, I mean, practice is a joke. You wake up in the morning, you go get. I went and got a workout in one morning. Peyton invited me to go get a workout in, which was great, but I was like.

[Scott Hallenbeck]

But a workout?

[Bobby Bones]

Do you mean, like, lift weights or throw.

[Brandon Ray]

He wanted to lift weights, so we went and lifted weights. Dude. And I thought I was, like, on vacation, but I'm like, cool, let's go, let's go lift weights. Then you go to this practice that is walk through tempo. You're just trying to learn the terminology that, that they put in front of you the night before. And then after that, you go put your board shorts on and you're at the hotel bar and you rip it up for the rest of the day and hope that you wake up the next day in time for practice. And that's really how everybody's mode of operation is. But it's a blast. You get to know people, you get to sit down, tell good stories, especially guys that you've battled against that year. I think the cool part was probably the first meeting we had that both teams come into one room and the coaches talk a little bit. But then Peyton Manigay got up and gave an introductory speech and he's calling players out like, hey, just, guys, let's just make sure that there's not a camera around, because that's when Ray Lewis will come up and start. Start talking and doing all that stuff. But he. He basically hammers people and all that stuff. But it's just a cool environment of a bunch of guys that you have respect for and that have obviously proven themselves. And then the week itself goes by and the game's fantastic. They sell out the crowd, but the.

[Bobby Bones]

Game itself, as cool as it is, you're hitting each other, but you're kind of playing half speed, right? Until he gets closer to the end.

[Brandon Ray]

Now, there's only one guy that I know, that I watched when I was out there that you got guys, Adrian Peterson, when he touched the ball, he's going 150 miles an hour trying to run, run through people's faces. And, like, everybody's eyes are like, dude, Adrian's gonna get the ball. We gotta. We gotta man up right here. So it is definitely competitive. And it's a tackle football game, and you see these guys, competitive juices come out. But the fourth quarter is really, hey, that's where the money is. Because if you win the game, you get an extra 20.

[Bobby Bones]

Probably pays for the trip, then a little more, huh?

[Brandon Ray]

Pays for the trip, especially if you got people coming. I was like, come home, baby. We ended up losing the game by a touchdown or something like that. But, I mean, and then you go back and you have this incredible celebration with all the coaches and the players and the families, and they put out great food and anybody get hurt? Nobody got hurt in our game, not that I know of.

[Bobby Bones]

That's kind of the goal, right?

[Brandon Ray]

Like, the goal is to Leave in one piece for sure, because the last thing you want to do, especially at that time of the year, and that's why I think it is more tempoed in pace, is because guys know the risk of injury would be brutal at that. At that time of the year in January or leading up to the next season already, you just talk about, God forbid somebody would get a knee injury or something like that.

[Bobby Bones]

So we're players, like, not cut blocking, where there's certain rules.

[Brandon Ray]

Oh, there's certain rules in place. There's no blitzing, or if. Yeah, there was no blitzing, no cut blocks. You only could play certain coverages. So it honestly is an exhibition in its truest form. And there's really good players out there there. There's no doubt about it. But there are definitely constraints on what you can and cannot do. And then also, you get up to the bar and like, Matt Light would be sitting there next to Suggs and be like, hey, you don't go hard on me, I won't go hard on you, or whoever he was blocking that game. And so I remember in the game at one point, Matt's doing like, swim hands where it's like out in front of him, and the guy's shimmering in front of him, like, not rushing. And I was like, oh, wow, this is that one. Took it to the next level at least. You kind of see some guys go a little bit harder than others, but it was. It was a great experience.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you think they should have kept playing it full padded? Because I can understand why they stopped doing that.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah, I think that part of it. It was early on and throughout its history, it was a game that was an honor to go to, and it was the free trip out there and all that. And then what I believe started happening was a lot of guys weren't showing up maybe for risk of injury. Some of them. You know, you get done with a playoff game, whether you're Brady or somebody like that, and you. You just look, you don't want to go play another game and take. Go out and travel. And so I think that they were losing probably some of the guys that they really wanted to showcase. And finally they said, it's not worth these guys, the potentially getting injured playing tackle football. We'll just make it a showcase somehow some way which is evolved into what it is today, don't you think?

[Bobby Bones]

Now, at this point, you just name the Pro bowl team 100% that way, it's the literal Pro Bowlers as well that's making the team. They hit their contract. They get their incentive, first, second, third string Pro Bowler and then they're not having to find new people. And then you get people that really didn't have Pro bowl seasons being named Pro. I didn't say anybody specifically, but I think if they just named the Pro.

[Brandon Ray]

Bowl teams, right, you name them and you like, I don't know. I know that they're trying to fill air time into all that stuff and people, probably some people will tune in to watch it.

[Bobby Bones]

They might as well play Madden against each other. Exactly.

[Brandon Ray]

I don't. I have no interest in watching that game. Like I said, I really don't.

[Bobby Bones]

It was a flag football game.

[Brandon Ray]

They should honestly just send them on a trip out to Hawaii and do the same thing without the game. I mean, because if you're going to spend that much money anyway to go down to Florida and set up shop and make a weekend out of it.

[Bobby Bones]

But I think they did it here, didn't they? San Francisco?

[Brandon Ray]

Oh, did they do it here?

[Bobby Bones]

I think now they brought people to here. I'm almost positive that's where it was.

[Brandon Ray]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Foreign.

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[Bobby Bones]

Now we're gonna go over and talk to Scott Hallembeck, who is the CEO and director of USA Flag Football. And we learned a lot about it because we think we know football.

[Brandon Ray]

I think we might have a chance.

[Bobby Bones]

Bobby, we did not have a chance to play for the national team.

[Brandon Ray]

I don't know, dude. With your quickness.

[Bobby Bones]

I do not have quickness.

[Brandon Ray]

I've seen you play pickleball.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm telling you, I'm on one ankle.

[Brandon Ray]

And if a guy only rushes me from seven yards away and he's not 350 pounds, I think think I've got an opportunity to get the ball out to you.

[Bobby Bones]

This actually was pretty interesting.

[Brandon Ray]

It was fascinating.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. And how they're trying to build it up for the Olympics because there will be flag football in the Olympics. And then we do talk about NFL players. So here he is, Scott Hallenbeck talking about flag football, the United States team. Hey, Scott, thanks for hanging out with us. I got a lot of questions. Flag football, is this going to be a real thing at the Olympics? Like who's playing?

[Scott Hallenbeck]

It's a real thing. Absolutely. We, I mean, first of all, it's a, it'll likely be a combination. We're working through all those details is the reality. So NFL players are eligible.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Scott Hallenbeck]

So I mean, we're, you know, either just had the Pro Bowl.

[Matt Castle]

Right.

[Scott Hallenbeck]

All the players are saying they're interested. And I was just sharing with Matt that, you know, this is, it's not your grandfather's flag football. I mean, this is really sophisticated. It's five on five. It's a 25 by 50 yard field. So less than half the size of a traditional football field, tackle football field. And it's, you know, it's man to man. It's. You're on an island on defense and offense even. We had a game last night, Team USA versus Team Mexico, men. So the highest quality players, you know, in the country right now playing what effectively was our gold medal game because we didn't get to have it in Panama during the continental championships. And the end of the score was 35, 34. So a very competitive, high scoring, diamond dynamic game. And these are the best athletes. Now you try to layer in NFL players and the process is, how are we going to teach them this very different style of football.

[Brandon Ray]

My question would be with these NFL players. You talked about the commitment level. Talk a little bit about what that means if they do commit to doing this in the pool that they have to go into. But also from the drug testing policies and everything like that. It's fascinating.

[Scott Hallenbeck]

Yeah. So it's just the Olympic movement has a lot of sort of policies and procedures and bureaucracy like probably any major sporting organization. And it's a different world. So for example, we're looking at the concept of next summer having what we're going to call acclimation camps. So we'll bring in NFL players, we'll teach them again this version of football, five on five Olympic fives, as we call it, and we'll see what comes out of that. But the moment we come, create a pool of athletes, you know, elite flag football players, non pros and some number of pros. You become you, you are now followed by the ioc and you're in what they call whereabout testing. So you have to tell them where you're going to be at all times. And the World Anti Doping association can, you know, come to your house and do testing. So we need to make sure the players understand all of this detail. Not to mention in 28, you're going to go through, through a process of trials to training camps building towards the Olympics, not unlike an NFL season. We'll have cut down camps and eventually traditionally we're 12 players on a roster. In the Olympics we can only have 10, so it's even tighter. So we're going to have to work with them. But you're likely not going to get any vacation time at all in all of 28. You have to go through your entire regular schedule for NFL and then squeeze in something called the Olympics as well and go right back to the 2028 NFL season.

[Bobby Bones]

How's the NFL reacted to these players coming straight from games to play, Olympics to go back and the possible worst case scenario an injury happened?

[Scott Hallenbeck]

Obviously that's yeah, absolute not what anybody wants. But the NFL is all in. I mean they've, I give them credit, I've been working for 20 years with the NFL and they, this is number one, their biggest growth strategy internationally and it's working incredibly well with obviously the addition of their international games. So the owners have already made the commitment. They've said one player per NFL team can be on one of the country teams. So in the Olympic movements, obviously it's USA, Canada, Mexico, etc. There will only be six men's and six women's teams, so not that many openings. So I mean they want as many NFL players on as many of those teams as as they can possibly get. That's what we're being told. So there's a real commitment to this on their end. And right now, both sides, the league office, USA Football, the International federation. We're all working together to figure out exactly how this is going to work.

[Brandon Ray]

And if you're a betting man though, how many of those 10 spots do you think actually would go to an NFL player? Because you're also the pool of players that you're talking about here, they're all going to be skilled players, right? We're not going to, we're not talking about defense, defensive lineman, offensive lineman. You're talking about highly skilled, short area, quickness, all those different elements that you have to have to play this game.

[Scott Hallenbeck]

That's exactly right. Honestly, I mean, it could be one NFL player, it could be 10 the way I look at it. And you know, I'm not even in the room making the final decision. So is offensively, quarterbacks, receivers granted smaller, tighter windows, tighter space in a 25 by 50 yard field, they'll pick that up. It's all a matter of how much time do they really have, how serious are they about this opportunity to represent the country and get a gold medal? No one wants to risk losing the gold medal. Roger said that the league, everyone's on board with that, like, we cannot lose the gold medal. But I will tell you, the international, the quality of the international competition has dramatically improved real quick. The way it works is the moment you're in the Olympic Games, now all of your government funding and everyone else in the world gets government funding, not the US they just start to get flooded with funding and money to improve the quality of their players and their teams and so forth. So everyone's getting better. So we expect real, real competitive flag football over there. But I would guess offensively, probably most of the players defensively, when you have to pull flags, deconstruct a defensive player from, it's no contact, you literally can't put your hands on the receivers. You got to be running side by side with them. They're moving all over the place. They're dipping and spinning these crazy movement skills. You have to see it to understand it. To do that, I mean, I think that's going to take a little time. But again, we are talking about absolute freak athletes in the league, so I get that. So that's why the acclimation camps are so important. Invest some time together to understand this and we must may be absolutely blown away and like, okay, there's 10 guys, no question. Or again, there's some mix. For what it's worth, I actually worked for the US Olympic Committee way back in the day with the Dream Team, the original dream team in 92. So I was there. I mean, that was an incredible moment. I actually think it's kind of cool to think of NFL players with non NFL players going for it and trying to win gold medal. I just personally think that's a neat concept.

[Bobby Bones]

A couple of dumb guy rule questions. Number one, one, you said only man to man, so kind of like in the NBA, no zone. And then two, you just can't play it.

[Scott Hallenbeck]

It's not, it's not technically a rule. You just, they'll pick you apart if you're not just playing man to man the whole game.

[Bobby Bones]

And then two, what's the rushing the quarterback rule?

[Scott Hallenbeck]

Okay, so great question. Yeah. So seven on seven is a one yard rush. Five on five is a seven yards back rush. And you, and in seven, seven you actually can try to impede the rusher. You can't use your hands, but you can try to use your body. In five on five you can. So it's a free shot to the quarterback. And what often happens is in a 5 setup like the, the center is an eligible receiver, he might drop back and you could have a dual quarterback threat. So the moment you throw a ball, it has to be a, you know, backwards pass. Now all of a sudden you can run. So there's elements like that that just make the game more dynamic. We even have three quarterback sets sometimes, or they'll drop back and guys will all of a sudden peel off and go out and run. So it's, the game is evolving sort of right between our eyes, right before our eyes right now, and becoming very innovative on the offensive and the defensive side.

[Brandon Ray]

And so how many international competitions will you guys have every year that you can actually scout the opponents that you might play against and all that and learn about what we might be going up against in terms of competition?

[Scott Hallenbeck]

Great question. So that, that traditionally once a year, the International Federation of American Football, we call ifaf, has a world championship. So this summer there's a world championships every even year, 26, 28, 30. And then in odd years you have continental championships. This is the way the Olympic movement works. So every year there's a big competition like that in addition to a World Games and now the Olympics. So we have to hope, host more like soccer does, friendlies, exhibitions like we did last night. And we'll create what we call the, or are creating what we call the rivalry series. So now we'll do it once a quarter to invite teams in Mexico, Canada, Italy, believe it or not, Germany, Australia, Panama is coming on. Japan is like students of the game. They're just super locked in on this and super disciplined. It's really interesting how it follows the culture. But, yeah, we have to play as many of those games as we possibly can because the rest of the world's catching up.

[Bobby Bones]

I would think for the promotion of the game, just me, you would want a couple of NFL guys and really somebody known to be an ambassador. Right. Because we as fans will go, wow, I'll just use Jamar Chase. Jamar Chase is playing on the flag football team. We got to see what this is. Have you had, and you don't have to say who, but have you had early indication that there are a couple of NFL guys that are super interesting in doing it?

[Scott Hallenbeck]

Yes. So believe it or not, there's a lot. I think it's the respectful filtering process of explaining, like, okay, this is really what this means, and this is, you know, how you get. We got to work together to sort all that out. So the short answer is absolutely, there's real genuine interest and very much some of the names you already mentioned. But ultimately, sort of who's. Who's sitting there at the end of this, this process is, you know, what we're trying to figure out and talk.

[Brandon Ray]

To me about from a female standpoint, too, because the females are going to be playing the Olympics as well in flag football. And how is the competition for the female side, comparatively speaking, to the males?

[Scott Hallenbeck]

So in both.

[Brandon Ray]

Because it's grown rapidly, hasn't it?

[Scott Hallenbeck]

Oh, my gosh. Literally, in my 30 years of being a sport, I've never seen anything scale faster again. You probably know these things, but already 16 states with girls flags, a varsity sport. The NCAA just passed it as an emerging sport for women. So literally, really, the sort of structure, or the vertical, if you will, for girls and women is already built out and it's going to be a professional league next year. So they've built the entire thing in like four years. It's incredible. So there's something in the Olympic movement called talent transfer. And just think. So think of any sport, you're just a flat out athlete. So we're talking, you know, track athletes, basketball, volleyball, soccer, lacrosse, you name it, they're coming to football, particularly on the girls and women's side, because it's sort of hasn't been open to them, right? And now they're coming. I mean, apparently we hear, you know, girls that are absolute rock stars in soccer are giving up soccer to come to flag football. And again, there's already scholarships now the Division 1, all the way down to Division 3 are starting to offer and now there's nil money. I mean, it's just the floodgates are open. So there's some seriously good athletes on the women's side and will only continue to get better.

[Brandon Ray]

So.

[Bobby Bones]

So as part of you guys growing goals then to get high schools to have teams and because again, if they start in high school, then they go to college talking about scholarship, nil, then they play. I would assume this is, I assume this is some sort of evolutionary project, right? Like you would like even middle schools to eventually have women's flag football teams.

[Scott Hallenbeck]

100%. I mean, so we, USA football as a governing body are providing all the resources and standards for. This is how you train your coaches. These are the rules, this is the right standards, this is how you protect your athletes, background checks, all those kinds of things. And then, yes, empower as many leaders in youth sport like you normally have in any other sport. Leagues, travel teams, tournaments, that sort of thing. And then, yes, if it's going to go into the scholastic side and the girls and women already has on the boys side, it's still traditionally tackle football. So it's likely going to be a slightly different model, I suspect. Again, all this to your point is evolving, but girls to women's already has a strong youth base moving into middle school and high school. And now college is coming on and again, amazingly, next year there will be a professional league for women and men. So that side is pretty well structured. On the boys side, it sort of starts really strong. In the youth, they tend to go to tackle, which we support as, as well, of course. And now we're working on that talent transfer. So how do you go identify track athletes and basketball athletes and other athletes from high school that want to come play flag football?

[Brandon Ray]

So do you think that flag football will be a staple in the Olympics for the long stay?

[Scott Hallenbeck]

Certainly, that's our hope. If I was a betting person, the NFL is again all into this. I mean, this is their international growth strategy. So I know for a fact that Roger has taken multiple trips down to Australia and is working. The NFL is working closely with, you know, our counterparts down there, the Australian government, who's going to host in 2032 in Brisbane. So I know there's a lot of interest and I know the IOC is super excited about working with the NFL. So that sort of all the pieces and the ingredients are there for continued success. And we're supposed to learn as early as probably late 26 if it's in the 20, 20, 32 Olympics. So certainly the hope is yes.

[Bobby Bones]

Scott, we appreciate the time. It's exciting. I'm anxious to see like how this develops leading up to the LA Olympics. I think that'll be super fun. Super fun to follow. Thank you very much.

[Scott Hallenbeck]

Thank you. Appreciate it.

[Brandon Ray]

Can Bobby and I try out?

[Cam Jordan]

Yes.

[Brandon Ray]

I mean, that's the next question.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't have the ankles for it.

[Cam Jordan]

Come on.

[Brandon Ray]

The ankles getting back, dude.

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[Bobby Bones]

Okay, so we're gonna go and talk to Rob Riggle. So when we were at the super bowl last week, we spent a little time with Rob Riggle.

[Brandon Ray]

You know Rob?

[Bobby Bones]

No, I don't. I didn't know him.

[Brandon Ray]

No, I only met him one time, and it was at that Slick Rick dude. And it was awesome.

[Bobby Bones]

In Kansas City?

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah, it was a charity. Charity, like softball or baseball event. It wasn't baseball, but it was like a softer ball, but they were actually pitching. And it was one of the coolest events I've been to.

[Bobby Bones]

I can see where he's funny. Like, he's just funny. Even if he's not trying to be funny, he's a funny guy. But he's also massive.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah. And he was a Marine.

[Bobby Bones]

So here he is, comedian and actor Rob Riggle. Rob's been in all kind of classic movies. Step Brothers, Talladega Nights, Hangover, 21 Jump St. The list goes on and on. And so we talk about comedies and dramas, and here he is, Rob Riggle. Rob, good to see you, man.

[Rob Riggle]

Hey, nice to see you.

[Bobby Bones]

I feel like everybody gravitates toward you. I've been watching you walk around. Everybody's coming to Rob Riggle Show.

[Rob Riggle]

Well, I don't know about that, but this place is busy as heck. A lot going on for sure. But that's Radio Row. That's what it should be.

[Bobby Bones]

I want to ask you a question. I did Running Wild with Bear Girls twice. Yes, I know. You did that show twice. Yes, yes. There's only three of us. Me, you, and Channing Tatum were the only ones to do it twice.

[Brandon Ray]

That's great company right there.

[Bobby Bones]

That show for me was insanely cool. Did you ever feel scared because you have a different background than I do of, like, doing manly stuff?

[Rob Riggle]

Yeah. The last time we had to jump out of a helicopter. A perfectly good helicopter. And I'm talking free fall, not the rappelling. We rappelled at the top of the show. We repelled out of the helicopter. That was interesting, and I was okay with that. It was the 14,000 foot on oxygen going up, up, up, and then jumping out that got my attention.

[Bobby Bones]

I feel like because of your background, they made it harder on you.

[Rob Riggle]

Maybe a little bit, but. But Bear, still, he's pretty fair, isn't he?

[Bobby Bones]

Awesome, though, like, as a dude, like, I felt so.

[Rob Riggle]

I would never take the chances that I took with anybody else. But with him and his group, I was like, yeah, I'll jump out of.

[Bobby Bones]

Play if you say so.

[Cam Jordan]

I believe you.

[Rob Riggle]

You want me to get in a ring with a tiger? Okay, absolutely.

[Cam Jordan]

I do that, too.

[Brandon Ray]

Look, I don't have the same experiences, okay? I haven't jumped.

[Bobby Bones]

You only have an NFL career.

[Brandon Ray]

Why don't you guys just talk? I'll just sit here. This is a great conversation.

[Rob Riggle]

I've Never had a £250, angry linebacker trying to rip my. My head from my shoulders.

[Brandon Ray]

It's a lot of fun.

[Rob Riggle]

That's a lot of fear, too. I would.

[Brandon Ray]

I would imagine there were times where I'd go into a game and there was trepidation. There was like, I am going to get hit so hard today. Maybe because it was the lack of confidence in the offensive line, maybe it was just that guy's really good. And it's going to hurt. But, yeah, there was definitely fear going into games.

[Bobby Bones]

Wow. He didn't have the Bear Grylls faith that we had to have.

[Rob Riggle]

We had.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Rob Riggle]

It was that absurd faith, too, to a certain degree. Jerry Seinfeld has a joke about that where he talks about how he sits in the back of a New York City cab, doesn't put on his seat belt. It just looks out the window like it's a video game. It's like, oh, that was dangerous. Ooh, that was close. That's kind of how I was with Bear, you know, it's like, oh, you know, all these amazing things are happening around me. I'm like, but I'm okay. I'm with Bear.

[Bobby Bones]

What do people come up to you and know you from the most? Is there a character they know you that they yell at you?

[Rob Riggle]

I get a lot of quotes from the Hangover and. And Step Brothers.

[Brandon Ray]

You get a lot of pals?

[Rob Riggle]

I get a lot of pals. I get a lot of not up in here. I get a lot of not you, fat Jesus. You know, in the face. I get a lot of that. The other guys, I get some stuff from that too.

[Cam Jordan]

And.

[Rob Riggle]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

So do you ever want to do just a really serious. Like, you ever.

[Rob Riggle]

I've just now started to get offered dramas. Is that where you were going?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, that's exactly what it was.

[Rob Riggle]

Yeah. So for whatever reason, you know, Hollywood is in a weird state. I don't know how to describe it.

[Brandon Ray]

It's.

[Rob Riggle]

The paradigm is shifted. It's all upside down. So things don't work like they used to, and no one can explain it. It's really inexplicable. And so they're not making a lot of comedies. They're not not making a lot of films, but they are still making things. So it's weird television shows. There's a lot of things going on there. It's all binge watching. It's not must see TV anymore. So it's. It's a different vibe. As a result, there's not a whole lot of comedies being made, but a lot of dramas. So I've been. Actually, last year I did four films, three of them dramas, one comedy.

[Brandon Ray]

Is that a comfort zone for you to just switch from that comedic act?

[Rob Riggle]

I love comedy, so I'm a fan of comedy. If I was given a comedy script or a drama script, I would do the comedy script. But I do love the artistic freedom, I guess, to. To pursue other. There's more than There should be more than one petal on your flower.

[Brandon Ray]

Right.

[Rob Riggle]

You know, and so I always appreciate the opportunity to do dramas because it's a, it's a muscle. I don't get to exercise very often and I like love it. I, I do. So getting to do those dramas this past year was fantastic.

[Bobby Bones]

What do you do all weekend? Because you're doing a lot of stuff like what is it non stop.

[Rob Riggle]

Normally it is. The last three years the Chiefs have been in the Super Bowl. I'm a super die hard Chiefs fan, man knows about this. So yeah, it's pacing yourself. There's a lot of activities, a lot of fun things going on. This year I'm up here supporting the Pat Tillman Foundation. I'm actually going to be the starter for their, the Pat's run, which is a race they've done for 22 years now in Tempe, Arizona on April 11th. You can go to patsrun.org to get more information, patsrun.org or ptf.org either one to learn about the foundation and what they do. They're, they're really a great foundation. They support veterans and veterans families and do a lot of good work. But this run is, you know, it's grown every year and it's just got bigger and better. And I was very honored to be asked to be the starter for it. And I just like, I like the foundation. I really believe in what Pat Tillman did. I mean, if you talk about leadership, you talk about service before self. If you talk about sacrifice, there's no greater story than Pat Tillman. So I'm a veteran myself and therefore I see what he, he did, what he, what he gave up to, to serve. It really, it moves me. So it's an honor. It's an honor.

[Bobby Bones]

Really appreciate the time.

[Matt Castle]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Busy man. Great to spend some busy. There he is.

[Brandon Ray]

Hey, great to see you.

[Rob Riggle]

Thanks for having me.

[Bobby Bones]

All right, that'll do it for this week. Thank you guys for being with us through this football season. Just so you know, we have a big announcement. We are retiring just for today. We'll be back, though, next week.

[Brandon Ray]

Yeah, we'll be back.

[Bobby Bones]

Off season.

[Brandon Ray]

It is off season.

[Bobby Bones]

Maybe we'll take some off season time. Yeah, we'll take some off season time. No, we'll be back very soon. I don't think we're going to go next week, are we? No. Because you got a little something.

[Brandon Ray]

I got a little something. I got a little anniversary coming up, baby.

[Bobby Bones]

What if I come back and it's like me and who would be your Brady doesn't count. Who would, like, be somebody that if I came back with.

[Brandon Ray]

You're already trying to replace me with a guest.

[Bobby Bones]

Me and Tannehill guest host.

[Brandon Ray]

God, Tannehill was so good. Castle, honestly, let's take two weeks off. Both. Both weeks. There's episodes released.

[Bobby Bones]

We will not be here next week as far as we know, but after that, we'll be back. Thank you guys for being with us all football season. That's Matt Castle. That's Brandon Ray. That's kickoff. Kevin. I'm Bobby Bones. We've had lots to say. Goodbye, everybody. Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is a production of the NFL and iHeart podcasts. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Matt Castle]

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[Karissa Thompson]

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