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- [00:00]
Morgan Huelsman
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Ryan Seacrest
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- [01:05]
Jenny Garth
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- [01:53]
Morgan Huelsman
This job is so fun for me because I get to interview people who are inspirations for me and Niall Harbison is one of those people. He went from being an addict in a hospital bed to changing the world for street dogs in Thailand and he did it all because he wanted to leave a positive impact on the world. These are the kind of people that I love to highlight and bring on here for interviews. He's a favorite follow of mine on Instagram so it's at as equally exciting for me. So let's do this. I could not be more excited right now because I have Niall Harbison on with me. Niall, thank you so much for joining me. It's great to get to meet you and talk with you today.
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Niall Harbison
Yeah thanks for having me.
- [02:39]
Morgan Huelsman
I have Tina the dog who changed the world and I'm really excited because it just came in the mail like 3 days ago and I cannot wait for for this book to be read but to truly honor your story and this amazing book that you've written, Tina, and all the other dogs that you've saved, we kind of have to start from the beginning of your story. So what brought you to Thailand?
- [03:00]
Niall Harbison
Well, it was actually. It's a long story, but I was actually always an alcoholic for 25 years, and I suffered from depression and anxiety, and I went to Thailand for a healthy life to try and sort of enjoy the sunshine and live healthy. But actually, things got worse, and I ended up in hospital. I nearly drank myself to death, if I'm honest. So I was in ICU for four days, and it was a horrible experience. But during those four days, I hit rock bottom, and I haven't drank since. And that's when I started to think about changing my life.
- [03:35]
Morgan Huelsman
And you started this by. When you were there and you went to Thailand, you were running mental health, trying to just get through this really hard time in your life, and you started to see a whole bunch of street dogs. Is that correct?
- [03:49]
Niall Harbison
Yeah. So I was still recovering, and obviously you don't sort of recover overnight. I moved to Thailand, and it was during my recovery that I started seeing so many dogs that were just really struggling on the streets. There's 10 million street dogs in Thailand, and I just started helping one or two, to be honest. The first was called Lucky, and I got her better and started feeding her, and we grew up to four dogs and then eight dogs. And then eventually, like, now we feed a thousand two hundred street dogs every day. So it was a real. A real journey of recovery.
- [04:19]
Morgan Huelsman
Were you always an animal lover, or did this just kind of come out of such a horrible situation for you?
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Niall Harbison
No, I wasn't. I didn't have loads of animals, but I had my own dog, Snoop, who is a lovely dog. And he was the one thing when I was in hospital, I just couldn't stop thinking about him. I didn't want to let him down. He got me through the dark days, to be honest. So I loved animals, but just when I was in that hospital bed, I just started thinking about, okay, I'm gonna die. What have I done in my life that's meaningful? And all I could think about was Snoop and dogs and playing football and silly things. I didn't think about anything about, you know, iPhones or a job promotion or, you know, the. The fancy new house that you like. None of that made a difference. It was just dog. So that's how I kind of went in that direction.
- [05:06]
Morgan Huelsman
Do you feel like fate stepped in and when you saw These street dogs who were like, this is meant to be, and I'm meant to be here and help these dogs, or, what was that turning point for you where everything was like, this is the path that I'm meant to be on?
- [05:19]
Niall Harbison
Yeah, 100%. I mean, it's not like when you look at it now and read the book, it's kind of like you would think it just happened, you know, all planned out and all overnight, but it was actually slower. I fed one dog, and then I went back the next morning and I saw her tail was wagging, waiting for me. And as an alcoholic, you let a lot of people down, whereas this was the first time I was kind of being reliable. And so I got addicted to sort of helping dogs, which is a much better addiction to have it just they need so little care and they ask for so much that it made me feel really good, to be honest.
- [05:54]
Morgan Huelsman
Yeah, I could imagine getting to see one dog makes me happy. And I've fostered and helped several of my own. My first ever, like, soul dog, who I adore and has been my connection for so long, is laying right here on my lap. Her name's Remy, and I have a. I don't know if you can see her. She just kind of passed out.
- [06:12]
Niall Harbison
Oh, I see her now. Beautiful, beautiful.
- [06:15]
Morgan Huelsman
She's a little kitty. But Remy is very much my soul dog. And this book, even just the very little I've read so far, I have a feeling Tina and potentially Snoop were your soul dogs. So when did Tina come into the picture?
- [06:31]
Niall Harbison
Yeah, I think soul dog's a great term, isn't it? It's like you understand it, and a lot of dog owners understand it. It's maybe alien for somebody who doesn't understand. They probably think, like, what are we talking about? Like a soul dog. But it's true. They. Dogs that touch you in a way or maybe come along at a special time in your life or, you know, people are struggling that that dog comes along. Tina was an amazing dog. She was on a chain. She'd been used for breeding. She was living in her own mess. And she came along, and I helped build her back up. She was really, really thin and built her back up. She only lived for six months because unfortunately, the damage had been done to her kidneys internally. But the six months that we had together, she was the most unbelievable, just loving creature, and she just. What I loved about her. She showed that dogs live in the moment. They don't live in the past. She never was angry or bitter or scared or Anything. She just wanted to just be full of love, which after the life she had, was. Was amazing to see.
- [07:34]
Morgan Huelsman
What do you feel like is the biggest lesson you learned from Tina, given that she was one of your soul dogs?
- [07:41]
Niall Harbison
I would say just like I said, live in the moment, but also that you can have a second chance in life. You know, like, we've all have setbacks. I talk to so many people who maybe have depression, who have grief or anxiety, or they've lost a child or, you know, there's a thousand things, and I was down and out and had nothing in my life. Tina had nothing in her life. But you can't. I kind of linked the two stories. You can rebuild your life. If you've had a setback, you can have a second chance. You can have a comeback. Tina is now on book covers all over the world. We're building a hospital in her name so she'll have a wonderful legacy, even though she didn't have a good part in her life. So if you're a human or a dog, there's always a comeback to be had.
- [08:26]
Morgan Huelsman
Yeah, I love the saying. I see a lot of rescue videos and it's always the comeback story. And I think so much of rescue dogs is the comeback story. But your comeback story, too, is also incredible. And I know. So after following you for so long, you really don't like this side of you where you have to focus on you. You, like, focus on the dogs, and this is what you love to do. But your story, as well as a comeback story, how does that feel for you? Looking at the bigger picture now, it's.
- [08:54]
Niall Harbison
Really weird because I genuinely. I will get stopped in the street now and people want to talk to me and take selfies and stuff. And that's a million miles. As you know, it's a million miles from what I want to do. I just want to be with the dogs in the jungle, helping them. But I also understand that I'm really privileged with that. Not every charity has that, not every person trying to help dogs. So even though it's uncomfortable for me, I can use it to help more dogs. It would be bad if I didn't use the exposure that we have to try and help even more dogs, because we help a lot now and it's a big organization, and it's just wonderful to have that support. Even though I'm a bit of an introvert myself, to be honest.
- [09:32]
Morgan Huelsman
I know. I can tell by some of your posts where you're just like, I get it. I know you guys want to talk to me and hang out with me. But do you see all the dogs? Because this is what it's really all about.
- [09:40]
Niall Harbison
About. Yeah, but I mean, you know, a little bit of that comes from, I think, everybody's dream, like, you're a dog person. I think everybody inside them has a little bit of when they're having a tough day at work, they're like, oh my God, I just love to run off and, you know, save dogs and live in the sunshine. So I do have a bit of a dream life that people would love to see themselves doing, I think.
- [10:02]
Morgan Huelsman
Yeah. And you speak of the, the good days, but there's plenty of hard days, which I've seen all on your posts. How do you keep going, especially given your past experience, which also involves mental health problems. So how do you keep yourself moving in the direction to continue to keep doing this?
- [10:19]
Niall Harbison
Yeah, it's tough because like, I have seen dogs shot. I've seen dogs poisoned and road traffic accidents and abuse. I've seen everything. And what keeps me going really is Tina's big face. Anytime I have a tricky situation, I just have a mental image of her face in my mind and I'm like, it's not about, like, I just have to put my emotions to one side and fix the problem in front of me because the dogs really, really need us there.
- [10:45]
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- [11:17]
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- [12:16]
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- [12:47]
Morgan Huelsman
That's super hard too, because I followed your story of the poison dogs and that was so difficult to watch even from afar. So I cannot imagine that experience, seeing it up close and personal and to be the one to help a lot of them say their final goodbyes. So the stuff you're doing is. Comes with its own difficult moments too.
- [13:10]
Niall Harbison
Yeah, it does. And it's. I'd lie if I said it was easy. There's still days where, especially if a dog dies, even though it's a street dog or, you know, Alba or any of the dogs that I have, it's so tough. It's just there's days where I end up under the bed covers just like wondering how I'm going to keep going or how I'm going to bounce back from this one. Because, you know, I think a dog dying is one of the saddest. Like we all think about it and we dread the day that that's going to come. You know, so I see it, I see probably two or three a week. So even though they're street dogs is still very, very hard.
- [13:44]
Morgan Huelsman
Yeah, well, you're forming special connections with them that even just in that short time like you had Tina, six months can mean 10 years. It doesn't matter how long you've had a dog. That connection is something different that like you had mentioned earlier, is really hard sometimes to explain to people.
- [14:01]
Niall Harbison
Yeah, you build the connection with the dog and even if it's two weeks, it's still the dog when they die or when they're very sick. They do. You can see it in their eyes. They're looking for you. They really look for that connection for you. And I've seen it even when they die and even when they are sick, you can see it in their eyes that they're scared, you know, and they want a human connection with them or they want somebody to, you know, like, if you were in hospital, you'd want. They really do love the sort of attention and they're very, you know, caring creatures. So, yeah, it's tough.
- [14:37]
Morgan Huelsman
You mentioned Alba and I think me and a lot the huge rest of the world was watching along as we were cheering for Alba and really hoping that she pulled through to have her shining moments. When a moment like Alba, like what? How does that impact you?
- [14:53]
Niall Harbison
Oh, it's very tough. I use it as sort of fire. She was a wonderful little dog and she only lived for 14 nights and 14 days. It's often sets, but our sunrises, but she. I use that as sort of fire. So now we've built, you know, she was very malnourished and she'd been on a chain, but now we've built a kitchen where we feed a thousand two hundred dogs and we've called it Alba's Kitchen. So I kind of use those toughest moments and try and turn them around into something positive. She's a dog in Thailand that would never. Nobody would have known. But now people all over the world know her. She's got a little song, she had a bandana, she had a name. I think that's, you know, it's not a great life for her, but she. She had some dignity at the end.
- [15:37]
Morgan Huelsman
When you see how much a dog in Thailand changes the world like that, and you see all these people coming together, even in the comment section of your videos or responding on social media, are you like, holy crap, we're really doing something here?
- [15:54]
Niall Harbison
Yeah. I nearly get embarrassed because everybody's like saying, oh, you're amazing, you're. I have to nearly read them because it's just my head would be too big and it's what I do. Love the people who talk to each other and help themselves through their own problems and it's just such a positive community. And that's why I started it, because there's so much negativity in the world at the moment, especially online. Get very down or depressed if you just read online news at the moment. So I try and put some positivity out there and that's what people love. I think they resonate with that a lot.
- [16:30]
Morgan Huelsman
Well, yeah. And seeing the positive change that you're making in the world, I think any dog lover or animal out there would love to do what you're doing every day and helping change the world for a lot of Animals. But I think more than that, I want to focus on the fact that it's not as easy as people think to do what you're doing every day, because there is so many hard moments with that. Like, we. We think of the dream, right? We're. We're talking about this dream, and this is what everybody wants to do, but there's so many hard moments in that. And it's not easy each day to wake up and say, I'm going to keep going and feed all these street dogs and see the really bad pain in the world.
- [17:12]
Niall Harbison
Yeah. But on the flip side of that, I. I feel blessed because I was in that hospital and I got clarity. There's also a lot of. You know, I would say 95% of people in life are sort of have. Not that you don't have a purpose. Like, you might want to have a kid, you might want to have a good job. You might. You know, there's things like that, but everybody feels like they want to figure out some meaning. They don't want to just be doing spreadsheets or, you know, sitting on the commute on the tube or the train, or they want something more. And I've got that. I'm really lucky that, like, if I save a dog in Thailand, I go to sleep that, and I sleep so much better than I did in the corporate world. I'm just like, I've made a difference, and I feel lucky to have found that. I wouldn't have found it if I hadn't hit rock bottom. So, yeah, being able to help a dog. But I also think you don't have to open a sanctuary in Thailand or help thousands of dogs. Like the people who adopt one dog from a shelter or, you know, bring a dog into their family. Like, they're. I think they're heroes as well. Like, they're chang a life in just as much a way as I am.
- [18:17]
Morgan Huelsman
Well, and I've been watching you as you've been on promoting this book for Tina, and you've gotten to go and see a lot of the dogs that you've helped that have gotten adopted. And what is that like for you to see? You were there at the very beginning. You helped them nourish them back to health, and then they're in this home and living this prime, amazing, spoiled life.
- [18:39]
Niall Harbison
Yeah. Totally surreal. And, like, going back to your question about how I keep going, like, that is how I keep going. I, at the end of a long day, will look at Instagram to see some of the adopted dogs and to see A dog like Whacker, for example, but I took him into the vets in emergency, like he was close to death. And to see him, you know, living in Scotland with parents who love him. Or there's another dog, Snickers, who lived on the streets. She lives in Washington, D.C. or Brad Pitt lives in Long beach in California. For me, that's the bit that really keeps me going.
- [19:14]
Morgan Huelsman
Oh, yes, I do remember Snickers too, because I loved seeing Snickers bring you all kinds of gifts every time, every morning. When you do adopt one out, is there this kind of little piece of your heart that goes with them? And you're like, dang, it's really cool. But also, I'm sad to see you go.
- [19:35]
Niall Harbison
To be honest. No. Because obviously I'd miss them and stuff. But I can only. Like, we have so many dogs that I get. Like, you would see Snickers on my Instagram, but I might get to spend 10, 15 minutes with. Because there's so many dogs in a day. Whereas if they go into a home, they have, you know, a family, they have maybe another dog there, they have a structure, they get attention all day, they can stick with their parents, better life. Like, my job has been done. And it's times, of course, I miss them and I'd love to see them, but it gets a dog into a great home and it also frees up a space for another dog to come in. It's sad for me to miss them, but for the greater good. It's amazing.
- [20:17]
Morgan Huelsman
Yeah, well. And I see a lot of comments on there. I wanted to ask that question because I see a lot of comments of how can you let them go? Or why are they leaving? And I, I know the side of that story because it's often whenever I bring a foster dog into my home, it's they, they look so happy with you. They're at home. And I'm like, yes, but it. This is just part of their journey. It's not their whole story.
- [20:38]
Niall Harbison
Exactly. That's a very good way of putting it. And it's lovely that you do the foster. And it's like, there's so many people. It's the one that I, before I hit rock bottom and went to Thailand, I wish I'd done more. Never went Charlie to help them walk or fuss. I could have done more of that. And people always wonder. They want to start. They want to quit their job and go and open the sanctuary or do something in day one. Like, you don't have to. You can do a little bit And I'm sure you. Unbelievable from that fostering that you're doing or the animals that you're helping. In a funny, selfish way, it helps you just as much as it helps the dog. You know, it makes you feel fantastic.
- [21:16]
Morgan Huelsman
Oh, yeah. It's always the who rescued who type situation. And. And that's very true for all of them. Watching you guys grow to where you are now, you have happy doggo land, and it's a sanctuary where you get to save all these street dogs. And you have the kitchen that you mentioned, Alba's kitchen, and you're feeding all these street dogs, a field clinic. You're building Tina's hospital, which I believe is very close to being finished. How does it feel to look at all of that and just say, we did this?
- [21:50]
Niall Harbison
It's surreal, to be honest, especially from somebody who's an alcoholic and wasn't reliable before. I could do things, but it would be very up and down, so to be delivering it. And, like, that's what I talk about in the book. It's just I'm doing it for Tina. And if it wasn't for her, to be honest, there's times where I might have given up or slowed down or, you know, burnout or. But I just wake up and if something goes wrong, I just think of her and I think when she was dying in my arms, I made promises that I would do certain things. And it's. It's amazing to see it. I mean, I. It feels like a movie or something to me. It doesn't feel like. I feel like I might just wake up one day and I'm back in the hospital sick, because it feels too good to be true, the impact we're having. But it is also hard work, obviously.
- [22:34]
Morgan Huelsman
Yeah, it's a lot of hard work. And I know it's easy for anybody to hear your story and be like, oh, well, he did this. But this is years. This is years of long work and a lot of time and a lot of people that you've brought on board. And also watching you bring on people from Thailand onto your team to help the communication within the community, you're not just changing lives for these dogs, you're also changing the story people are telling themselves about animals. And I think that's a very important piece to this, too.
- [23:05]
Niall Harbison
Yeah, I think that's. Hopefully that's working, because I think, like, I can do a little bit, but I need, you know, a team, and then I need hundreds of people around the world to be advocates, and I need people to adopt dogs and foster dogs and tell other people to do the same. It's kind of like a mission or a movement. And I'm lucky to, I get, like I said, way too much praise at the front of it. But the team and other people, people who donate, people who subscribe, people who share the like, there's just, it's, you know, it's hundreds of thousands of people who are making change, and that's, that's what feels amazing.
- [23:42]
Morgan Huelsman
Well, and I know you love to, to put that on so many other people, but I do want to recognize how big of a role you do play in this. You are the center of this. And none of this would have started without the change that you made in your own life. To go and, and move to another country and say, you know what? This is what's going to happen. And I know that's very hard knowing I follow you. I know that you're like, no, no, no, this isn't it. But you are a big piece to this story.
- [24:09]
Ryan Seacrest
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- [24:41]
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- [25:40]
Jenny Garth
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- [26:14]
Niall Harbison
Do you know what? I make the videos on my phone and I'm in the jungle. I don't see many people, you know, like I'm just worth the dog. So I've come now to promote the book and I'm in England and America and stuff and I meet people and they tell me the impact it's had and it's very. I'm just very shy about that sort of thing. But it's nice. It also adds fuel. It also makes me think that I'm doing something worthwhile to get through the hard days. But I would rather melt into the background eventually. But other. Been doing it my whole life, but I just struggle with the side of things.
- [26:48]
Morgan Huelsman
Yeah. And that makes sense again because that is your personality originally, before all of this ever started. But I would not be good at doing my job and sitting here if I didn't tell you the importance that you have and the role that you play. So recognizing that I'm going to go.
- [27:03]
Niall Harbison
Back to Thailand and tell all the dogs that everybody's been saying these things and I'll have a really big head now and I'll be. I'll be going around telling them I'm.
- [27:12]
Morgan Huelsman
A big shot and they'll just wag their tails and be happy that you have food. Right?
- [27:17]
Niall Harbison
Exactly. They couldn't care less, which is why I love them. Exactly.
- [27:21]
Morgan Huelsman
When you were talking about being in the hospital bed and you were thinking of all these things and having this legacy and hoping that you impacted the world, do you feel like you have accomplished somewhat of that now?
- [27:37]
Niall Harbison
Yeah. I always said to myself again, I don't want to die. You know, I'd love to live 40 more years, but if I die this afternoon hit by a bus, I would be very happy with what I've done and with what the way I'm living my life. It's just more honest and more making a difference. And I don't want to die in any way now. But I would definitely feel like I've made a difference. Yeah.
- [28:01]
Morgan Huelsman
Yeah. And I know that's hard too to look at after the things that you've been through. And I know at the very end of this book, because I managed to get through, so. And then I started flipping to make sure I had all of my information correct. But at the very end, you were talking about these different moments where you would have to do things for yourself. And I think when you look on social media and see all the things that you do every day, you're like, how does now ever have a moment for himself to actually take care of himself? But a big piece to the story is your mental health and the things you went through. So how do you take care of yourself when all of this stuff is going on?
- [28:37]
Niall Harbison
I'm not great at it, if I'm honest. I get to burn. My problem is there's just so many animals that need your help. So I find it very hard to just, like, if I know, you know, if I'm exhausted and it's seven o' clock and I know that two miles down the road there's an animal that I can save, I kind of. How do you ignore that? You know, like, you. It's not like a. It's never finished is the problem. The work I do need to. I know that I need to manage my own health a little bit better, but it's just. Yeah. So dedicated to them, so I love it so much if I want to do it. Like, I'll be doing this when I'm 75, 80 years old, so I do need to maybe pace myself a little bit better.
- [29:19]
Morgan Huelsman
I think it also shows that you're human, Niall, that everybody's seen you and you are the superhero and people are loving what you're doing, but you're also a human who's been through some stuff, and you've also struggle with the same problems that a lot of us do.
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Niall Harbison
Yeah. And I think people are very good at putting a brave face on it. We can get up in the morning and put on our shirt or put on our makeup and put on our happy face and go out and. But there's a lot of us are hiding stuff behind that face that we're. We're carrying a lot of baggage. And I think it's. I. I'm lucky I don't have a boss, really, or anything. So I think I like to say that. That it's okay to not be okay for most people. You know, like, we're a little bit harder hard on ourselves. Maybe one thing you can do is just, you know, be more open and talk to a friend, especially. Maybe guys are not, you know, as Good at that. So just go easier on people. It's a tough old world out there and we all have our. We all have our little baggage to carry.
- [30:15]
Morgan Huelsman
Yeah, absolutely. I always end my podcast by sharing. Having you have the platform of sharing a piece of advice, inspiration, or something that maybe we didn't touch on or talk about, that's super close to your heart. So I give you. The floor is totally yours. As if it wasn't already, but the floor is totally yours.
- [30:34]
Niall Harbison
I know this is like, it's very woolly or very, very sort of lovey dovey. But, you know, if you open, especially if you're in America, if you open up your apps and you open up your news, whatever it is you watch, everything is bad, everything is negative. Politics, cost of living, money issues, everything. And then if you. It feels like a very dark world. But if I would say one thing is like, just go and walk your dog. If you walk out into a park and you. I meet so many people who are 70 or 80 years old, 6 years old, retired, homeless, anybody has a dog, just talk to them. And if you talk to them on a human level and you just are honest and just the dog can be the opening part of that, you'll find that people are very, very nice and very, very insecure and very wanting to talk. It's just the world, I think, has conditioned us to be angry and political and just angry, really. So, like, talk to people and just listen to them and you'll find out that most people are a lot better than you think they are.
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Morgan Huelsman
A lot of people and a lot of animals, too. I think you have changed the narrative for so many dogs out there, and changing the narrative is where it all starts. And you're doing just that. So now, thanks for joining me and make sure you guys go get his book. Tina, the Dog who Changed the World. Is it so cool to see you and Tina, a picture of you guys and you're just everywhere.
- [32:01]
Niall Harbison
It's. It's ridiculous. Seeing her makes me so proud. I love her.
- [32:10]
Morgan Huelsman
It's so sweet. And the picture on the book is so adorable. So, guys, go get the book. I think you'll love it. And now just thank you for what you're doing and it's so cool to be able to share your story and for you to be here and talk about it.
- [32:23]
Niall Harbison
Thank you very, very much.
- [32:24]
Morgan Huelsman
While this interview was inspired by our love for rescue dogs and all the work that goes into rescue, Nile is also a great example of second chances and truly showing all of us that change is possible and it's okay if you one day want to put a stop to things and go to another country and save dogs. Which, you know, maybe one day I can do that too. I hope this episode found you where you needed to hear it. I hope as things in the world continue to shift, that you're taking care of yourself and encouraging yourself to chase the dreams that you've always wanted. I posted this quote on my Instagram this week and it feels very important to end this episode on. Imagine looking back one day and realizing that you were brave enough to chase the life you wanted and it worked. So go with that into the world as you will. And I thank you for listening to this podcast and being here. I love you guys. Talk with you next week.
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Morgan Huelsman
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