MON PT 1: Kail Lowry On Scammers Ruining Her Life  + Woman Implanted With The Wrong Embryo + Should This Boyfriend Run?

Summary

The Bobby Bones Show – Episode MON PT 1: Kail Lowry On Scammers Ruining Her Life + Woman Implanted With The Wrong Embryo + Should This Boyfriend Run?
Release Date: February 24, 2025
Host: Bobby Bones
Producer: Premiere Networks

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1. Weekend Highlights and Personal Updates

The episode kicks off with Bobby Bones and his co-host Jay Shetty sharing highlights from their weekends. Jay reminisces about a significant sports event where Arkansas triumphed over Missouri, a crucial victory for his team's hopes of making it into the NCAA Tournament.

Jay Shetty:
"[02:25] Hope everybody had a good weekend. A highlight of my weekend. Saturday night, Arkansas beat Missouri... We needed that."

Amy shares her relaxing weekend spent hiking in the sunshine, emphasizing the mental and physical benefits of being outdoors after prolonged periods indoors.

Amy:
"[02:41] It's pretty relaxing weekend, but I would say the highlight would be actually got to hike outside in the sunshine, because we haven't done that in a while."

2. Relationships and Holiday Pressures

The conversation shifts to managing multiple significant dates, including Christmas, birthdays, and Valentine's Day. Bobby discusses the exhaustion of hosting multiple birthday parties in a short span and the relief of temporarily pausing these events.

Bobby Bones:
"[03:47] So we had my son's birthday party, but this is the last of three birthday parties that we've done in, like, a month and a half. Like, I'm so over it."

Jay delves into Valentine's Day dynamics, sharing strategies to keep special occasions distinct to avoid them blending into a whirlwind of overlapping celebrations. He emphasizes the importance of gift-giving as his primary love language and how continuous planning can lead to burnout.

Jay Shetty:
"[06:42] ...I think that just depends what kind of relationship you're in. And if Valentine's Day or holidays or gifts or if that's important. I think every relationship is different."

3. Health and Personal Struggles

Chelsea Peretti opens up about her ongoing battle with vertigo, detailing the complexities of her condition where crystals are misplaced in her ear canals. The discussion highlights the challenges of managing such health issues and the emotional toll they can take.

Chelsea Peretti:
"[09:12] I found out that I have multiple canals, so those crystals are hanging out in multiple of the canals instead of just one of them. So I'm a complex case."

Furthermore, the hosts share personal anecdotes about minor injuries and their experiences with physical ailments, discussing how weather changes exacerbate these conditions.

Jay Shetty:
"[19:30] ...But when the weather changes, any injuries are gonna bother you."

4. Dealing with Scammers and Interview with Kaylin Lowry

A significant portion of the episode addresses the prevalence of scams, especially those targeting public figures and podcasters. Bobby Bones recounts an attempted scam where individuals posed as Kale Lowry's manager to gain unauthorized access to their systems.

Bobby Bones:
"[32:29] ...Lunchbox is a massive fan, and we knew of her outside of Lunchbox because Amy got an email going, hey, I'm John. I'm the manager. Want to put you on a podcast On Kaylin's podcast. And it felt fishy..."

Melissa Fumero shares her own experience of having her Facebook account hijacked by scammers aiming to monetize her page.

Melissa Fumero:
"[34:46] ...My Facebook was taken over by somebody, and for years, I couldn't get it back. And they were monetizing my public Facebook page."

To shed light on such issues, the show features an interview with Kaylin Lowry from Teen Mom. They discuss the tactics scammers use and the importance of vigilance in protecting one's digital presence.

Kaylin Lowry:
"[36:31] ...It's so good to see you."

Melissa Fumero:
"[36:24] ...You can email me at infoaillowry.com DM me and it's always gonna come either from me, my assistant, or my producer for the podcast..."

5. Current Affairs and Notable Stories

The hosts transition into discussing recent news stories that have captured public attention:

• Embryo Mix-Up Incident:
  A woman sues Coastal Fertility Specialists after an IVF clinic mistakenly implants the wrong embryo, resulting in her giving birth to a child who is not biologically hers.

  Jay Shetty:
  "[49:35] ...that's an embryo mix-up, but Eddie had a... We're not doing that story."

• Interaction with Uncontacted Tribes:
  A young man from an isolated tribe approaches a river community seeking fire, illustrating the clash between indigenous practices and modern technology.

  Jay Shetty:
  "[53:01] ..."It's like taking someone from the 20s and showing them a PS5. Like, they would have no idea how to use that because they didn't have any ramp up to that."

• Longest-Married Couple:
  Celebrating a couple with an 84-year-long marriage, highlighting their enduring commitment despite the challenges of raising 13 children and navigating extended families.

  Bobby Bones:
  "[25:20] ...They raised 13 children. They have 55 grandchildren, 54 great grandchildren, and 12 great, great grandchildren. So if I'm assuming he's the older one. 105. And they've been married 84 or 77 days."

6. Personal Anecdotes and Listener Engagement

Bobby Bones shares a heartfelt personal story about his son’s birth, initially mistaking his newborn’s color and grappling with the immediate emotions associated with fatherhood.

Bobby Bones:
"[51:32] ...So my son wasn't breathing, so when he came out, he was like dark and... he looked more like me. And I'm like, all right, we're good."

Lunchbox contributes with listener-submitted stories, such as Julian Hernandez and his son getting lost on a Utah hike and surviving with found supplies.

Lunchbox:
"[48:32] ...They get lost on the trail, they're gonna have to spend the night in the wilderness. They have no supplies and it's dark, it's cold, we don't have any food. Then they find a green backpack full of supplies in the middle of the wilderness, survive on that."

7. Conclusion and Upcoming Segments

As the episode nears its end, Bobby Bones recaps the key discussions and previews upcoming segments, ensuring listeners are engaged and informed about future topics.

Bobby Bones:
"[54:31] ...We have been told you can't do that one anymore. No, no, no. We're not doing that story."

The episode wraps up with promotional segments and teasers for future content, maintaining the engaging and dynamic flow characteristic of The Bobby Bones Show.

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Notable Quotes:

• Jay Shetty [02:25]:
  "Hope everybody had a good weekend. A highlight of my weekend. Saturday night, Arkansas beat Missouri... We needed that."

• Amy [02:41]:
  "It's pretty relaxing weekend, but I would say the highlight would be actually got to hike outside in the sunshine, because we haven't done that in a while."

• Chelsea Peretti [09:12]:
  "I found out that I have multiple canals, so those crystals are hanging out in multiple of the canals instead of just one of them. So I'm a complex case."

• Melissa Fumero [34:46]:
  "My Facebook was taken over by somebody, and for years, I couldn't get it back. And they were monetizing my public Facebook page."

• Bobby Bones [51:32]:
  "So my son wasn't breathing, so when he came out, he was like dark and... he looked more like me. And I'm like, all right, we're good."

Key Takeaways:

• Awareness of Scams:
  The episode underscores the increasing sophistication of online scams targeting influencers and podcasters. It emphasizes the importance of verifying identities and safeguarding digital platforms against unauthorized access.

• Managing Personal and Family Life:
  Bobby and his co-hosts share candid insights into balancing family responsibilities with their professional lives, highlighting the challenges and strategies involved in maintaining healthy relationships amidst busy schedules.

• Health Challenges:
  Chelsea Peretti’s discussion about her vertigo sheds light on lesser-known health conditions, promoting empathy and understanding towards those grappling with persistent health issues.

• Community and Support:
  Sharing personal stories and engaging with listeners fosters a sense of community, reinforcing the show’s role as a supportive platform for diverse experiences and challenges.

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Transcript

[Stephanie Beatriz]

Hey, Brooklyn Nine 9ers. It's a reunion. The ladies of the Nine 9 are getting back together for a special episode of the podcast More Better hosts Stephanie Beatriz and Melissa Fumero. Welcome friend and former castmate Chelsea Ferretti.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Remember when we were in that scene where you guys were just supposed to hug and I was standing there?

[Jay Shetty]

Oh, yeah. I was like, can I also hug them?

[Stephanie Beatriz]

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[Jay Shetty]

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[Jon Stewart]

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[Bobby Bones]

Transmitting across America.

[Lunchbox]

Turn it up.

[Jay Shetty]

This is the Bobby Bone Show. Let's go. Hey, welcome to Monday's show. Morning Studio.

[Bobby Bones]

Morning.

[Jay Shetty]

Hope everybody had a good weekend. A highlight of my weekend. Saturday night, Arkansas beat Missouri Missouri, top 15 team. We needed that. I play on the team, so we. We needed that because we're still trying to get in the NCAA Tournament, which we may, but that was a big win for us. That's the highlight. You.

[Amy]

It's pretty relaxing weekend, but I would say the highlight would be actually got to hike outside in the sunshine, because we haven't done that in a while. Yeah.

[Jay Shetty]

Yeah.

[Amy]

It just felt so good.

[Jay Shetty]

If you did it on Saturday, like, applause for you, because it was still cold Saturday. But yesterday I even went outside for a little bit, and I don't. I have, like, vitamin D deficiency, and I don't think it's from anything in my body. I think it's just from not seeing the sun for, like, years, for the most part. So. Good for you. We play pickleball. George Burge came over yesterday, kind of last minute, and we played. But it was the only day that in the past, like, two or three months, that it wasn't raining, because it would be warm when it rained here. And it wasn't, like, snowing. It was awesome. But today's even better.

[Amy]

Yeah. I saw the video on your Instagram. It looked like you were working him more than he was working you.

[Jay Shetty]

I just took a random video.

[Amy]

I don't know. I mean, yes, it was ra. Well, then, if that's just how y'all play back and forth. But he was more like. You were standing still and he was running, like, back and forth.

[Jay Shetty]

Okay, but that's a.

[Amy]

That's a compliment to you.

[Jay Shetty]

I know. But I took a video that looked good, so I could have picked one of him working me. It didn't look that good. So that's what it was. I was a cheat video, I should say. Not a random one. It was just one I took. Yeah. Eddie, Weekend best part.

[Bobby Bones]

So we had my son's birthday party, but this is the last of three birthday parties that we've done in, like, a month and a half. Like, I'm so over it. So the fact that we had one and we're done for a little bit, I'm happy about that.

[Jay Shetty]

Yeah. That's heavy. Yeah. I have kind of Murderer's Row with my wife like that, too. But it's Christmas, her birthday, and then Valentine's Day. Boom, boom, boom. All right, there. Then I'm done. Like, I get to break free. But I have to make sure that Christmas and her birthday are completely separate. They're so close to each other. They're within, you know, a little more than a week. I think, as a kid, she had it lumped in together a lot because they were so close. And she also was never at school, so she never got, like, the school birthday. So I try to make sure Christmas is completely separate and Then her birthday, and then Valentine's Day, and all that is within 40 days. And my love language is gift giving, because it's about the only thing I can do right. And so similar.

[Bobby Bones]

When you're done, you're like, oh, yeah.

[Jay Shetty]

Like, glad it went well. Tried hard, love doing it, but, man, all packed together. So what'd you guys do?

[Bobby Bones]

He wanted to do, like, he just wanted a gym. So we rented a gym for, like, two hours with basketball hoops. And like, they just. It's crazy that kids would just hang out in a gym for two hours and just have fun.

[Jay Shetty]

That's also what I like on my birthday, so some things don't change. My Valentine's Day lunchbox had asked. After the show, I told my whole Valentine's story on 25 whistles. We ended up out of time on our show, but I told we did our Valentine's Day stuff over there. But I'll just say this. It had to do with food and a trip, and if you want to go hear that, it's on 25 whistles. But it was probably my greatest Valentine's achievement. Mike, would you agree with that?

[Amy]

My greatest.

[Jay Shetty]

Yeah, I would agree with that. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I was thinking back on other Valentine's Days.

[Jay Shetty]

Yeah. And I've done some good stuff. Like, I've. Yeah, this was my greatest. But it's probably three or four episodes back. It's probably in the head, right? Yeah. You can find it. So go to 25 whistles and you can hear my whole Valentine story. It has to do with food and a trip, and that's all I'll say.

[Bobby Bones]

And lunchbox was asking about.

[Jay Shetty]

He was like, what are you gonna tell what Valentine's Day you did?

[Lunchbox]

Yeah, because he kind of made fun of us for not doing anything and said, you guys suck. You guys didn't do anything. And he said, I have this elaborate plan, but I'll tell you guys after Valentine's Day because I don't want to ruin it. And they never came back with anything. So I'm like, oh, he just kicked that can down the road. Because he had nothing planned either. He didn't do anything.

[Bobby Bones]

Got it.

[Jay Shetty]

I did not make fun. I said, if your wife is somewhere where people are being celebrated around her, it may make her feel not as loved, because everybody else is getting love and she's not. I don't think you have to go all out on Valentine's Day. I think that just depends what kind of relationship you're in. And if Valentine's Day or holidays or gifts or if that's important. I think every relationship is different. I think the newer relationship that you're in, the more you got to do as well. Because once you're in something for a while, you kind of, you know, just give up a little bit.

[Bobby Bones]

It's funny how, like, most guys, though, are kind of like, that's just not my holiday.

[Jay Shetty]

Well, it's not a guy holiday. Has it ever been in any way whatsoever? It is not a guy holiday. Yes. Yeah, of course it's not. It's not supposed to be.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Jay Shetty]

Okay. Lunchbox. Best of weekends.

[Lunchbox]

Oh, the sunshine. I mean, the kids had been cooped up in the house for, like, a week because of the snow and the cold and it being like 8 degrees. They could go outside and run around, and we could go in the backyard and throw the baseball, the football, whatever, Just anything. It was just great. Oh, felt so good.

[Jay Shetty]

There's still snow in my yard.

[Bobby Bones]

Same in, like, shady places.

[Jay Shetty]

Yeah. It's like there are parts of my yard that don't get shade. It's like two different.

[Amy]

Don't get sun.

[Jay Shetty]

Yeah, sorry. Don't get sun. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Morgan. I got a message that Morgan was gonna be late to work this morning. She wasn't late. She actually was here. Still early. But I'd like to shout out you for that. You still got here on time. But what happened?

[Chelsea Peretti]

Yeah, my car wouldn't start. Instead, if it's not one thing, it's another right now, so I tried to start it and it wouldn't even turn over. So I think I have a bad battery.

[Jay Shetty]

So. No, nothing.

[Chelsea Peretti]

No, no turnover.

[Jay Shetty]

How'd you get here?

[Lunchbox]

Too many bills.

[Jay Shetty]

I got an Uber, so I wonder. It could be an alternator. You hope it's a battery. Alternators.

[Bobby Bones]

The weather does affect batteries, so that could be it.

[Jay Shetty]

You hope it's a battery.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Yeah, that's. That's at least the first thing we're gonna troubleshoot, try and figure that out.

[Jay Shetty]

You still got here plenty of time.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Yeah.

[Jay Shetty]

When you get to the building and you don't have, like, a beep, what do you do?

[Chelsea Peretti]

I don't have a beep.

[Jay Shetty]

You had to get in all the.

[Amy]

Gates so I could have a beep.

[Jay Shetty]

Oh, do you keep it with you?

[Chelsea Peretti]

Yeah, I have it on my car keys.

[Jay Shetty]

So the Uber drive you driver drove you up to the thing to push?

[Chelsea Peretti]

Yeah, well, he just. He drove me into, like, the whole Foods area, and I came in down that way instead of going through the parking garage.

[Jay Shetty]

Got it.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Yeah.

[Jay Shetty]

All right, well, I'M glad everybody had a good weekend. Everybody. Good weekend, right?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Jay Shetty]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

So that's the play, though, right?

[Jay Shetty]

What?

[Bobby Bones]

Say I'm going to be late and then show up on time.

[Jay Shetty]

She was early still.

[Bobby Bones]

I might do that.

[Jay Shetty]

It wasn't a play. She said what?

[Amy]

So that you get props.

[Jay Shetty]

No, but if you say. If you say your car's broken down and then you show up in your car and you're late, that's. That doesn't count.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, no.

[Lunchbox]

Say I was able to fix it, I got under the hood, and I'm gonna be late.

[Bobby Bones]

And then you show up, like, five minutes early.

[Jay Shetty]

I did it.

[Bobby Bones]

I did it. Then you're like, wow, man.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Cool.

[Jay Shetty]

You kind of only get that once, though. So if you do that. Cool. But you really only get it once because then if you do it again, like, I'm gonna be late, then it starts to be, boy, you crowd wolf in, like, a reverse way.

[Amy]

Also doing it right after Morgan did it, and then saying you're going to do it.

[Jay Shetty]

And also, you should never say, like Amy said. Yeah. How's your. What's your disease called?

[Chelsea Peretti]

Vertigo.

[Jay Shetty]

How's your vertigo?

[Chelsea Peretti]

Yeah, it's. So it's kind of tricky because it feels like I'm doing better, but it's not. It's still there. I found out that I have multiple canals, so those crystals are hanging out in multiple of the canals instead of just one of them. So I'm a complex case.

[Amy]

But you don't have to wear the glasses.

[Chelsea Peretti]

I'm just honestly tired of wearing them right now.

[Jay Shetty]

And you didn't drive.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Yeah, they were helping and they do, but I'm just. Today I was just over it, so for now I'm not. But like. Like I said, it's. It's kind of this trick where they're at right now in the canals. It makes me feel like I'm better, but it's still there and it's still lingering. I can't quite move around. I can't not sleep on my back. It's. It's still in progress.

[Jay Shetty]

How many canals do we have?

[Chelsea Peretti]

You have three.

[Jay Shetty]

So in each ear. Well, which one does a Q tip go in? That's the one that I like.

[Chelsea Peretti]

You have a right canal, like a left canal, and then you have a horizontal canal. So basically, mine started in the right. Now it's in the left, and it's also in the horizontal. And that just shouldn't be happening. So I have to go see a bunch of more. More specialists and audiology and stuff now. To figure out what's going on.

[Jay Shetty]

Where is the horizontal canal? Is that your butt crack?

[Chelsea Peretti]

No, they're all in your head.

[Jay Shetty]

Got it.

[Chelsea Peretti]

So like they're back here. So like kind of like the back of your head. And then you have your right ear canal and your left ear canal, but they all connect.

[Bobby Bones]

Could that be your nose canal? Cuz like isn't ear, nose and throat and then all the same?

[Amy]

Yeah, you need the same. But the Doctor's the same.

[Jay Shetty]

Yeah, they're near each other, they influence each other, but I don't think they're the same.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Yeah, you don't have canals in your nose. You might, but they're not those canals that the crystals are in.

[Jay Shetty]

What about the birth canal?

[Bobby Bones]

I've heard of that.

[Jay Shetty]

Also a canal, but not one of the three.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Not where the crystals are.

[Jay Shetty]

Not one of the power three?

[Chelsea Peretti]

No, no, no.

[Jay Shetty]

So you have crystals in your mid canal.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Yeah, and now in my left. They started in my right, they're now in my left.

[Jay Shetty]

Are they migrating over to come out of your ear? Do they ever come out of your ear?

[Chelsea Peretti]

They never come out of your ear. They actually kind of settle at the base of your skull is kind of where they're supposed to be. And they move upward into the canals is kind of what happens. And they can convert. That's not unusual. But it is unusual for them to go right to left. Normally it's like right to horizontal and then they finally pass. So they're just doing things that are a little unheard of right now.

[Jay Shetty]

I picture a snow globe when she talks about the crystals moving around. Like if you were to turn a snow globe and all of them fall to the left or fall to the right, do they fall? Like, are they moving because of gravity?

[Chelsea Peretti]

Yes. So crystals are your gravity. They allow you to like exist within gravity in a way. And it is kind of like a snow globe or like one of those rings you used to play with where you see things move.

[Jay Shetty]

So I don't know what that is.

[Chelsea Peretti]

You know how they had their rings and you see the little things move in the ring and you move the ring around to get anybody.

[Amy]

And you played with the maze with the little bead, that's a similar one.

[Chelsea Peretti]

So these crystals can float in the canals, which is where you feel the vertigo. But there's also a jelly like substance at the end of the canals, and mine are currently stuck in there, which is the place you really don't want them to be. You kind of want them floating because that means they're moving and they're easier to move when you're doing these maneuvers. And then they all. You're moving your body to then move it kind of back down into its base place.

[Jay Shetty]

So if it's all on the left, for example, you want to do a lot of things to the right, so it kind of digs out of the mud.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Yeah. So in a way, there's a bunch of different maneuvers. Like, I had to do the barbecue roll. I had to do.

[Jay Shetty]

You sure somebody's not messing with you?

[Chelsea Peretti]

No, it sounds funny. I know, but, like, so she has to position my head and my body in a way that will then start to move those crystals. Kind of like I am. My body is the snow globe. And you have to move it in the right way to get those crystals to move.

[Jay Shetty]

And so what kind of medicine would this be? Would this be Western medicine? Would this be like a non traditional Eastern. Like, does insurance cover it?

[Chelsea Peretti]

Not really. It covers some of it. So it is Western medicine, but it's a specialty. So she's a physical therapist, but she specializes in vestibular and like, audiology. Also specialists. So specialists in the ears and the canals.

[Jay Shetty]

That's a real thing, then? Not that it isn't, but sometimes I hear people going to like some of these. You remember the doctor that told you that you couldn't hold a bottle up or something? Amy.

[Amy]

What?

[Jay Shetty]

Do you remember that?

[Amy]

Okay, that's. No, I know that's a muscle test.

[Jay Shetty]

Sure. But explain what the test was.

[Amy]

Well, you would put the pills in your hand, or she would hold them, however. Different doctors do it different ways. But then she tests the muscles, and if you.

[Jay Shetty]

If you're holding the pills in your hand.

[Amy]

Yes, but if you. She can easily move your arm down.

[Jay Shetty]

While you're holding the pills in your hand.

[Amy]

Don't quote me on which way it is, but just for the sake of the story, it'd be like, if my arm moved down easily, then I'm deficient in that, so I need to take it. But if my arm doesn't move at all and, like, then I'm like, I'm good.

[Jay Shetty]

But while you're holding the pills in a plastic bottle.

[Amy]

Right, okay.

[Jay Shetty]

And it could be true. Who knows? But the difference is I look at that and go, I never heard of that. I don't know how that worked.

[Amy]

I think it's called, like, art testing. Yeah, let me look it up.

[Jay Shetty]

But I would think that is a bit non traditional.

[Amy]

Oh, yeah, that's definitely more holistic autonomic response testing.

[Jay Shetty]

Art A r T Where Morgan Juror. Sounds like everybody should believe in it because it's science backed.

[Amy]

Okay. This is a sufficient form of using muscle biofeedback, developed by renowned German physician pioneer Dietrich Kuntarfruit.

[Jay Shetty]

Nailed it. Are you any better right now than you were a month ago?

[Chelsea Peretti]

I am better. I'm progressing, but it's just like. It's kind of tricking me to think that I'm fully better when I'm not. And as soon as I start to move my head in a certain direction, I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm not better.

[Jay Shetty]

Do you guys want to do share your element real quick and go around the room?

[Bobby Bones]

Sure.

[Jay Shetty]

Everybody have an element. Morgan's is sure. Crystals are stuck. Bpbv. Yeah.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Lots of. Lots of things.

[Jay Shetty]

Okay, I'll go.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Jay Shetty]

On Friday or Thursday night. Coming into Friday, I bit. I thought a whole hole in my tongue, but if you do anything to your tongue and it's. It had been swollen up so big, it's back to normal. And I bit a hole in my lip too, and it's almost healed, so I got two days, but it still feels like it's big. Can you see it?

[Amy]

No.

[Jay Shetty]

Caitlin says that too, but I'm like, are you sure?

[Amy]

Yeah. It feels to you way bigger than.

[Jay Shetty]

It is on Friday. I told Eddie, I said, please scoot the cameras back a little bit because it felt like my lip was massive. I bit a hole, and biting a hole through it just means, like, I bit it real hard. I don't know that it literally went through it, but I'm like 85% better today. But it sucks.

[Amy]

I really don't see it.

[Jay Shetty]

I appreciate that anything in the mouth feels like it's so much bigger than it is. My omen is I'm healing from while asleep without my mouth guard, biting my tongue and my lip. I don't know what I was dreaming. Corn on the coffee contest? I don't know. Amy.

[Amy]

My thumb, I slammed it in my dishwasher, so it's a little tender.

[Jay Shetty]

I didn't do that. Why were you so aggressive in the slam?

[Amy]

I don't know, quite honestly. I just was like, how does this stuff happen to me? But it does. So I saw that. Just makes me think of this. There's some video I saw going viral. I think it was on TikTok of this guy imitating his wife. And she's like, I have all these bruises and I don't know why. And then he reenacts, like, her what her day is like, and she's Tripping over everything. Just like slamming her hand into the microwave and doing everything. And then it like, answers. That's exactly why you have bruises all over your body. And I was like, this is me.

[Jay Shetty]

This.

[Amy]

This is me. And they. I do know that my depth perception is off. And that is part of. You can Google it. It is part of. No, not crystals.

[Jay Shetty]

How many. It is a.

[Amy]

Simple valleys.

[Jay Shetty]

Do you have canals? Sorry. Yeah, canals.

[Amy]

It is a. I just pointed to the back of my head where that is. Because that is the part of your brain that controls depth perception. And that is. It is a common thing with adhd.

[Jay Shetty]

Did you know if you take your hand and you put it on the back of your head? You feel that little knot there?

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Jay Shetty]

Everybody felt that knot in their school. Yes. That is called your septic protuberance. What? That is like, the mid. What up. What?

[Amy]

Cyptical protuberance.

[Jay Shetty]

Close enough.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Jay Shetty]

That is what that is called. Basically the middle point there of the old skull.

[Amy]

Okay, well, how do you know this?

[Jay Shetty]

I have no idea. But you did the back of your head, so I used a little. I don't know.

[Bobby Bones]

What is it? Is it a bone?

[Jay Shetty]

It's like a.

[Amy]

Feels like it. It feels like my tailbone.

[Jay Shetty]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, really? Is that what it feels like?

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Jay Shetty]

Amy sticks all the way out. How is your tailbone, by the way?

[Amy]

It's good. It's good. You were talking about some surgery the other day, and it got me curious about my tailbone, so I looked it up, and I could have it shaved down if I wanted to.

[Jay Shetty]

Oof.

[Bobby Bones]

That's part of you, though. You don't want to get rid of that?

[Amy]

Well, sometimes it's uncomfortable. Like when I sit too long.

[Bobby Bones]

You wag it too much?

[Amy]

No, it just, like.

[Jay Shetty]

She gets excited.

[Amy]

Yeah. And so I'm like, I wonder if it would have to be a special case. Like, they would have to look at it and deem it.

[Jay Shetty]

That's. You know, that's your obstacle. Protuberance of your butt.

[Amy]

Exactly.

[Jay Shetty]

Which, by the way, that is a bump. Back of the skull. It is the lower part of the occipital bone. It serves as an attachment point for ligaments and muscles which help support the head and the neck. It's like that middle part where it all goes to.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. It's crazy.

[Jay Shetty]

And, like, it's like the balance point where things kind of.

[Amy]

I didn't know that's what that was called, but, like. Right. That tissue in there, that's a really good place to massage if you Want to relax your.

[Jay Shetty]

Because it's very much in the middle, and it's where all those things meet.

[Amy]

Yeah, I'm just. I don't know. In my YouTube face fitness videos, they massage that area a lot.

[Jay Shetty]

They can tell after people are dead a lot of times by the size of their obstacle protuberance, if they're a male or female skulls or how it's shaped.

[Amy]

Why are males bigger generally?

[Jay Shetty]

Yeah, because males bodies are generally bigger. Anyway, fun fact. Not that fun.

[Bobby Bones]

Anyway, you've already learned something.

[Jay Shetty]

How do you say it?

[Amy]

Obstacle protubers.

[Jay Shetty]

Yeah. That close. Lunchbox show your helmet.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah. Stubbed my big toe up the stairs, and I thought I'd cleared that top step and boom, right into this.

[Jay Shetty]

That sucks. Was it dark?

[Lunchbox]

Yeah. And it hurt.

[Jay Shetty]

It hurt.

[Bobby Bones]

But you're good now.

[Lunchbox]

I mean, it happened on Saturday, but it. It hurts.

[Jay Shetty]

That sucks. And also when it's dark and you don't know that, either you're out of steps or there's one more step. Like any step confusion when it's to. All those suck. No, it was not good, Eddie.

[Bobby Bones]

I have a couple. So, like, my arm, it was doing great, and it last couple days, it's just been hurting, man.

[Jay Shetty]

Weather's changing. So what's happening is. Yeah, it's getting warmer. Really? Mm. So it happens both ways, cold and warm.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Jay Shetty]

Where your bones are just reacting to the temperature.

[Bobby Bones]

Because it hurts. Like today it really hurts, and it should.

[Jay Shetty]

But it'll probably loosen up today as well. I would stretch it.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Jay Shetty]

But when the weather changes, any injuries are gonna bother you. I have, like, bad arthritis in my fingers from breaking them playing high school football, which is not the coolest of injuries, but I broke three of them my junior year. And every time the weather changes, cold or hot? Cold. It hurts real bad when it starts to switch over to warm. I feel it, and I feel the pulse in them.

[Bobby Bones]

Weird.

[Jay Shetty]

Yeah, it sucks.

[Bobby Bones]

So that's gonna be my whole life then.

[Jay Shetty]

Yeah, but you don't got much longer. Dude.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm past my middle point.

[Jay Shetty]

Let's be honest. You ain't got much longer. All right, that's it. Let's get going here. Thank you guys for hanging out with us. Let's go, Bobby Bones. Show starts now.

[Stephanie Beatriz]

The more better, the merrier title of your podcast. All your old Brooklyn Nine Nine friends are appearing on your favorite podcast, More Better. Don't miss Brooklyn Nine Nine stars and show hosts Stephanie Beatriz and Melissa Fumero as they welcome their friends and former castmates back to Laugh about old times and swap some stories. This week, it's Gina Linetti herself, the talented Chelsea Peretti.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Remember when we were in that scene where you guys were just supposed to hug and I was standing there?

[Jay Shetty]

Yeah.

[Melissa Fumero]

I was like, can I also hug.

[Stephanie Beatriz]

Them Then next week, the 99 nonsense continues as the More Better amigas sit down with Joe Latrulio, AKA Detective Charles Foyle. There'll be more laughs, more conversation, more stories from the set, and more More Better. Don't miss a minute.

[Jay Shetty]

You felt safe enough to throw out a bad idea, right? I mean, that is the key because you're definitely not throwing out good ideas all the time. I mean, that's just not how it works.

[Stephanie Beatriz]

Listen to More Better with Stephanie and Melissa on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Arturo Castro]

Hi, I'm Arturo Castro, and I've been lucky enough to do stuff like Broad City and Narcos and Roadhouse and so many commercials about back pain. And now I'm starting a podcast because honestly, guys, I don't feel the space is crowded enough. Get ready for Greatest Escapes, a new comedy podcast about the wildest true escape stories in history. Each week I'll be sitting down with some of the most hilarious actors and writers and comedians to tell them a buckwild tale from across history and time. People like Ed Helms, Diane Guerrero, Joseph Gordon Levitt and Zoe Chao.

[Jay Shetty]

Titanic, Charles Manson, Alcatraz, Assata Shakur, a sketchy guy named Steve.

[Arturo Castro]

It's giving funny true crime.

[Jay Shetty]

I love storytelling and I love you, so I can't wait.

[Arturo Castro]

Listen and subscribe to Greatest escapes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[J]

This is John Cameron Mitchell and my new fiction podcast series, Cancellation island stars Holly Hunter as Karen, a wellness influencer who launches a rehab for the recently cancelled. In the future, we will all be canceled for 15 minutes, but don't worry, will take you from broke to woke or your money back. Cancellation Island's revolutionary rehab therapies, like bad touch football, anti racism, spin class, and mandatory ayahuasca ceremonies are designed to force the council to confront their worst impulses. But everything starts to fall apart when people start disappearing.

[Jay Shetty]

Karen, where have you brought us?

[J]

Karen Cancellation island, where a second chance might just be your last. Listen to Cancellation island on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jay Shetty]

Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else you can find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your basic NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything because we got lots to say. I. I texted you, and you texted me back. Now, I don't know if you have the update, but, like, all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like, it's all colored. They changed it, and the. The heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm going to be honest. It was a little pink. There was something sentimental.

[Lunchbox]

When you like, when.

[Jay Shetty]

When you send it, you like, do I send the heart? Now I don't like the color edition. It's extremely pink. Listen to Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. In New Hampshire, they found a mildly venomous snake at the grocery store and a shipment of bananas. You know, if you want organic, you're gonna get organic. You know, you can't go Iowa, demand all organic, and you get a little snake, and you get all. All hurt about it. Now, I'm glad nobody got bit, but wildfire or wildlife officials in New Hampshire say a venomous snake got into a box of bananas lunchbox. You hate snakes.

[Lunchbox]

Oh, my gosh.

[Jay Shetty]

You go to the grocery store, you see a snake.

[Lunchbox]

I. Oh, I mean, there's gonna be a scene. There's going to be screaming, and there's probably going to be a lawsuit because.

[Jay Shetty]

Snake didn't bite you. So.

[Lunchbox]

But no. Pain and suffering and mental anguish. Those are things, and that is something they need to vet before they put the bananas out.

[Jay Shetty]

Oh. The snake was an ornate cat eye, a mildly venomous snake native to Ecuador. If these are Ecuadorian bananas, that's legit. If the snake's able to live, that means they're fresh from Ecuador. Important, like, chopped them up, sent them right out. Conservation officers recovered the snake and have since founded a new home. Wsaz. Yeah, right. New home. You know, they killed that thing immediately. Stop it. There's a story, too, about this couple that's been married. And so they recognize the longest marriage for a living couple. The couple's now 105 and 101. They've been married for 84 years and 77 days. Wow. You know, they Are so tired of each other's crap, but they love each other.

[Amy]

What's the math on that? How old were they when they got married?

[Jay Shetty]

They raised 13 children. They have 55 grandchildren, 54 great grandchildren, and 12 great, great grandchildren. So if I'm assuming he's the older one. 105. And they've been married 84 or 21. Okay, so not super young. But that's wild. Just to live to be 84 years old. That's a victory here. And they've been married that long.

[Amy]

What's their secret?

[Jay Shetty]

Probably just putting up with each other. Right.

[Bobby Bones]

But all those kids, too. That's amazing that they dealt with all that.

[Jay Shetty]

55 grandchildren, 54 great grandchildren. 12 great, great grandchildren. That's crazy. There was also a guy who. He was in a snowmobiling accident. Did you guys see this at all? It's one of those lucky to be alive stories. So a guy in Michigan says he and his friend are lucky to be alive after a snowmobiling accident where his friends snowmobile cracked the ice on a lake, and he sank into it. So I'm thinking the guy was in the front, cracks the ice, he goes down. He tried to save the friend. He got pulled into the icy lake. He climbed back out. Here he is talking about falling through the ice. We were going to go for a ride on the lake. We got kind of disoriented when my friend took off. He got about 30 yards ahead of me, and he just sank. He had his hand out. I grabbed his hand and so I went in. I had to make that choice. Either stay and help him until we both die or go and get help and have him hold on. And he held on. I had to go get help. So I just told him to hang on to the side and I'll be back. Thank you. To the rescue guys, the ambulance people, they were fabulous. If you're gonna have fun in snowmobile, stay on land. Wow, that's a good point. Although I've never been on a snowmobile. And then we went to Wisconsin once to do a show, and it was snowed over, and they had cars on the ice out there, like they were driving their vehicles over the ice.

[Amy]

Oh.

[Jay Shetty]

So I would think if you're up and you live somewhere where stuff freezes over, like in Michigan. Right. I'm sure you guys were on lakes all the time, right? Yeah, but my parents never let me go on those frozen lakes, though. That was the thing. Yeah, like, kids can't do it. Well, even right now, it's the winners are different. I mean, I was just up there over Christmas and the lake wasn't frozen over, so it's just different. If it's below zero tons of days in a row, you're good. But my parents were always strict with that. Sounds like that was the right call.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Jay Shetty]

Yeah. I mean, especially vehicles. You better be dang sure that's frozen over 2 tons going on top of it. You guys ever ridden a snowmobile?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, In Colorado.

[Jay Shetty]

Dang, that sounds cool. I know it's other fun.

[Amy]

Well, I mean, I don't like to go fast.

[Jay Shetty]

I've been on a moped.

[Amy]

Not that they go super fast, but.

[Jay Shetty]

I. I've been on a no snow snowmobile. It's got moped.

[Amy]

Like a jet ski.

[Bobby Bones]

It's like a jet Ski on.

[Jay Shetty]

Oh, yeah. I work in the marina. Jet skis are fun. If it's like a jet ski, that's awesome. For like 18 minutes and then you're bored.

[Amy]

But I don't go fast on a jet ski either.

[Jay Shetty]

It's the anonymous. Anonymous in box. There's a question to be had till it into the mailbag. Hello, Bobby Bones. The girl I'm dating is already planning her wedding. I'm 26, she's 24. I found out that in her spare time, she likes to plan her dream wedding. I know it's not out of the ordinary for girls to do this, but this is a whole other level. She takes notes from every wedding she attends or is in as a bridesmaid, she has Pinterest board spreadsheets. Even as a deposit on a venue that's insanely difficult to book, this feels like immediate pressure to me. I'm also worried the wedding she has planned is so elaborate that even if we do get to that point, seems like a big financial burden. Is this a reason to be concerned? Do women plan their dream wedding this intensely before they are even in a serious relationship? Signed early wedding pressure. Okay, here's what I would say. First of all, she'd probably doing this if it even wasn't you, bro.

[Amy]

Well, yeah.

[Jay Shetty]

Yeah. So yeah, the whole. I feel such pressure because I'm. She's doing this regardless if it's you or not. If it was, she was specifically doing this to pressure you into getting married. That's a whole different conversation. Like she just really wants to plan a wedding. She's a little crazy about it. We're all crazy about something. The fact that she put a deposit on a venue, like, I need to know if she put the deposit On a venue with a specific date in mind.

[Amy]

Oh, certainly she's not. No, no, no.

[Jay Shetty]

But you can put a deposit on the place and not have it. Maybe.

[Amy]

If it's hard to get into, then maybe you just get first pick when the date, when the time comes that you're ready.

[Jay Shetty]

I don't know if that's a thing.

[Amy]

Well, then she had to put a specific date.

[Jay Shetty]

That's what I'm saying. So I need to find out if she put a specific date on the deposit. And what is it, five years out versus is it 18 months out? Like that's all that's going to matter. But here's what I'm going to say. She may want to get married and she may want to have a wedding just like she wants to have because she's been dreaming about it forever. That doesn't mean it's about you. So I would let her do her thing. I wouldn't. Wouldn't raise this as a flag unless she's booked it in like 12 months.

[Amy]

Then it's about you, then it's.

[Jay Shetty]

Then it's about her getting married to whomever she's with. It's even. It's different than that. It's not even about him. She just really wants to get married. That would be what to look for. I'd find out more about that deposit. Otherwise, everybody has a hobby. If she's got a spreadsheet and she's been doing this forever. It's just her thing.

[Amy]

She knows what she wants.

[Jay Shetty]

Don't make it a bigger deal than it already is. It's one of these. Don't make it an issue way before it's an issue, because it may never be an issue. And why would you concern yourself with it now when you possibly will never have to concern yourself with it? It's just a burden for no reason.

[Amy]

Yeah. Like, if you say something to her, I could easily see her being like, wait, what do you think this has to do with you? Like, I've been doing this long before I met you. This is my thing also.

[Jay Shetty]

Yeah. It's just not about you. Don't make it about you. Unless she's booked it nine months from now and then. Or she's like, let's have a baby, you know?

[Amy]

And I feel like if she has this set, like, don't you think maybe either she's planning to pay for a lot of it, or she comes from a family where maybe it's. She's expecting her dad to.

[Jay Shetty]

Maybe. I don't know. I don't Lean either direction on that one.

[Amy]

Oh. Because, I mean, that's, like. I could see that concern on his. And if he's seen the Pinterest board or he knows, like, kind of what she wants, like, he'd be like, what?

[Jay Shetty]

But that is a point, though, especially if you're doing whatever the traditional wedding is, the bride's dad pays for it, for the most part. Yeah, but the tradition is the bride's dad does.

[Amy]

I said dad, too. But then I just.

[Jay Shetty]

But I'm saying the traditional part. The thing is the bride's dad pays for the wedding, and I think that's old school, too. I mean, we didn't do that.

[Bobby Bones]

And then the groom's dad pays for the rehearsal dinner.

[Jay Shetty]

He.

[Amy]

But your wife's dad offered you. You couldn't receive that.

[Jay Shetty]

I don't know they ever offered. I just kind of did it. I just kind of did it. I was like, no, it's already done. He did not offer. I just. It was never a question.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, that's got to be awesome for a dad.

[Jay Shetty]

Oh.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh.

[Jay Shetty]

Two daughters getting married at the same time. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Amy]

So he was probably, like, sweet.

[Jay Shetty]

Yeah. He never said he didn't want to do. I never gave that option. I was. I just started paying for stuff. Okay. Yeah. That have been weird.

[Bobby Bones]

That's cool, man.

[Jay Shetty]

I just sent him a bill now. I invoice him now, years later. All right, dude, get over yourself. That's what I'm gonna say. Don't make it an issue until it becomes an issue. And it may never become an issue. Thank you. It's a Bobby Bones show interview, in case you didn't know. We're about to talk to Kaylin Lowry. Kaylin Lowry was on Teen Mom.

[Lunchbox]

16 and pregnant then. Teen Mom. Yeah, it cycles up.

[Jay Shetty]

So Lunchbox is a massive fan, and we knew of her outside of Lunchbox because Amy got an email going, hey, I'm John. I'm the manager. Want to put you on a podcast On Kaylin's podcast. And it felt fishy, so we tracked it all the way and got the guy on. And he was trying to scam right us.

[Amy]

There are scams where they offer you money to join the podcast. And he hadn't offered any money, so we were like, well, maybe this is legit, but he was trying to just hack my Facebook.

[Jay Shetty]

Yeah. And then there was a part where it's like, you're safe. Trust me. Feel free. Whatever it was here. Don't be afraid. You're safe. Don't worry. It was so creepy. So we'll talk to Kaylin about the scam, and then also Lunchbox will get some questions in as well. Cause he is a super fan. But here she is, Kaylin Lowry. Bobby Blond. Hey, Kaylin, they're saying you go by Kale now. Is that true? I just want to say your name.

[Melissa Fumero]

Right, yeah, yeah, Kale.

[Jay Shetty]

So Kale Lowry's on, and we have many reasons for you to be on. We have super fans of yours in the studio, and we're going to get to that in a second. But we got to tell you, we had somebody try to scam us, acting like they were your manager, and people do this to us as well. But does this happen with you where people act like they're representing you and they're really not?

[Melissa Fumero]

Yeah. Well, most recently, somebody, I'm assuming the same people that scammed you guys, were scanning, like, I don't know, 20 or 30 people I got tagged in, like, things sort of like, what, they tagged me in on your page?

[Jay Shetty]

Yeah. And so we got them on the phone. No, we did the whole thing where we knew it was a scam. Kale. And then we're like, well, let's just see what happens. And so we get him on. It was some dude from India. Don't be afraid. You're safe. Don't worry. He was, like, telling us to click links and give control of our computer, and we're. And so it was just to let everybody know, like, don't believe when someone's trying to schedule us or you. Because this is a real problem now. Right?

[Melissa Fumero]

What is the end game? Right? Like, are they getting finances somehow, or what is the purpose?

[Jay Shetty]

So what we think is they wanted control of our computer, and then they are in. And so they can take over your Facebook. Because they wanted to do it on Facebook, which also let me know it wasn't you. Because they were like, we're gonna do this podcast on Facebook. And so we don't really jump into Facebook with many podcasts. Like, do it from there. Yeah, but they want to take control of your Facebook, and then they want to use that Facebook to sell a.

[Amy]

Bunch of crap, scam other people, your followers, and.

[Jay Shetty]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was.

[Melissa Fumero]

Well, that happened to my Facebook. My Facebook was taken over by somebody, and for years, I couldn't get it back. And they were monetizing my public Facebook page.

[Jay Shetty]

No way. Way.

[Amy]

Okay. So that's totally what he wanted to do.

[Jay Shetty]

So were you ever able to get it back? And what were they trying to sell? How are they making Money.

[Melissa Fumero]

I just got it back. I think maybe within the last year, I got it back. And I mean, we were in conversations with Meta. We were trying to figure out, you know, could we pay a service to help us get us back? Get it back. Every video that I put up because I still had the ability to post on it. So I would post reels and things like that. They would get all of the profit and all of the monetization from that, but they would also post the most random videos with people. I had no idea who they were. Funny videos, all kinds of content, and they would get paid on those as well.

[Jay Shetty]

Well, we are here in solidarity. We are not trying to book and pay anybody. And the guy that emailed us, his name was John Walker. Your manager. And do you have a. Do you have a manager named John Walker?

[Melissa Fumero]

I don't even have a manager.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Jay Shetty]

Yeah, from India. I was like, her manager ain't gonna be from India. Like, my manager lives in the same town as I do, and there's a reason, but. Okay, so anybody that's trying to get booked on Kale's podcast, how do you book your podcast? This is good. How do you book yours?

[Melissa Fumero]

You can email me infoaillowry.com DM me and it's always gonna come either from me, my assistant, or my producer for the podcast, which I talk about, you know, Kristen and Alessandra all the time. So if you're a regular listener to the podcast or know me on social media like you know those two names, that's crazy.

[Jay Shetty]

Okay, good lunchbox. You've been over there chomping at the bit.

[Lunchbox]

How you been, Kale?

[Melissa Fumero]

Hey, how are you? It's so good to see you.

[Lunchbox]

Hey, I miss you. Look, we used to interact on Twitter, but let me tell you, my Twitter got hacked. I don't have Twitter anymore.

[Jay Shetty]

Cause someone took my Twitter just clicking on Kale's stuff. It wasn't even Kale.

[Lunchbox]

I don't know where from, but it just went away and I don't have it anymore. And so then I miss out on a lot of life updates. I want to know, how do you have time to do so many podcasts? I mean, how do you do it?

[Melissa Fumero]

I just do it.

[Jay Shetty]

I.

[Melissa Fumero]

That's the number one question I always get. But I just do it. I work from home. I have this cute little office, and I have a set recording schedule every single week. So I know exactly what podcasts are getting recorded. And I try to be out of my office by 2:30 to go pick up my Kids every day.

[Lunchbox]

Man, that is so cool. Off by 2:30 and then just be mom and living life. And do you miss, do you miss the tv? Like do you miss that part?

[Melissa Fumero]

It's a double edged sword. I want to say yes. I don't miss the narrative, but I do miss a little bit of the environment.

[Lunchbox]

What about the girls? What about the other girls? Do you still talk to any of the girls?

[Melissa Fumero]

Yeah, well, I just signed Caitlin and Tyler to my podcast network, so that was exciting.

[Lunchbox]

That's awesome. And so like how like rich wise, like are you living in a mansion? Like what's going on, Kale?

[Melissa Fumero]

I mean, I live comfortably. I have a nice little 5,000 square foot house that I love and we have a rental property right in the front and a farm. So we live very comfortably.

[Jay Shetty]

You have one more question.

[Lunchbox]

Only one more?

[Jay Shetty]

Well, yeah, I mean I have stuff I want to ask too, but I'm letting you get your superfan stuff out.

[Lunchbox]

Do your kids understand the famous aspect? Do they, do they get approached in public? How do you handle that?

[Melissa Fumero]

It's, it's been a little weird, you know, Isaac's 15 now, so that part is a little weird for him because he doesn't really know how to navigate it just yet. But he said when people are nice to him about it, he's fine. Like the kids at school, if they ask nicely and they're not like rude or entitled to his answers, that's been okay. The rest of the kids don't seem to, to mind or, or really get approached on their own.

[Lunchbox]

I mean, that's what's crazy. Is her kids about to have a driver's license. Like that is so weird.

[Jay Shetty]

Is that the kid from 16 and pregnant? The. The OG yes. Yeah.

[Lunchbox]

And that's what I mean. Like they were showing like Macy and then we're doing a follow up season and the kids are like driving and I'm like, how is this possible? How? I. I known these girls for 16 years.

[Jay Shetty]

You've known them all? Yeah.

[Lunchbox]

Yes. Heard about life for 16 years.

[Jay Shetty]

You have seven children, Kel?

[Melissa Fumero]

Yeah, I have seven.

[Jay Shetty]

Wow. And the oldest is 15. How young is the youngest?

[Melissa Fumero]

My twins are one.

[Jay Shetty]

Was there any theme in naming them?

[Melissa Fumero]

So originally I had the middle names. All were double L. That was the main theme. All their first names were inspired by somebody or somewhere. Right. Like Isaac was Isaac Hansen from the Hansens. Lincoln was Lincoln Burrows from Prison Break. And so there was like a theme sort of with the first name. What was your original question? Oh, and then the Double L. Middle names. I lost that with the twins. Like by 6 and 7, we didn't have any more double L names.

[Jay Shetty]

Do you have any rule about your kids being in pictures?

[Melissa Fumero]

Yeah, I. If anyone approaches us in public, I don't allow my kids to be in them. If the kids are like, no, I want to, that's a different conversation. But I don't like when the fan comes up and asks, can you get Isaac in the picture? Can you get Lincoln in the picture? I don't like that.

[Jay Shetty]

So you do. Do you allow your 15 year old to have social media?

[Melissa Fumero]

He does have social media, but I oversee all of it. And he, if he makes a video for his Instagram or his TikTok, he sends it to me first and I have to give approval.

[Jay Shetty]

So what's the difference in coffee convos and then like baby mamas, no drama.

[Melissa Fumero]

Well, so we don't have baby mamas, no drama anymore. We now have karma and chaos. So karma and chaos is a rekindling of a friendship with my friend, one of my best friends. And so we fell out and then we got back together. We had a. We have a podcast now. Coffee Combos with Lindsay is very different because we talk about co parenting, we talk about pop culture, we talk about everything on there. And so I would say Karma and Chaos is more advice based and experience based. And then Coffee Combos is just a free for all.

[Jay Shetty]

What about Barely Famous? Is that a guest podcast?

[Melissa Fumero]

Yeah. So Barely Famous is guest based and I just do interviews on that one.

[Jay Shetty]

So how many days a week are you doing podcasts? We have a lot.

[Melissa Fumero]

Usually three or four days a week. Last week I recorded eight or nine episodes altogether.

[Jay Shetty]

What is your relationship with fame? I mean, see, I asked that because it's. It's Barely Famous podcast and I don't know she's famous.

[Lunchbox]

Don't. Don't let her lie to you. She ain't barely famous.

[Jay Shetty]

Well, I'm not asking that. I'm just like, define fame today.

[Melissa Fumero]

I mean, I don't even know if I can. When I think of famous people, I think of, I mean, Kim Kardashian, right? Like big names. And I'm never. I'm not that, right. So that's why I say barely famous. But I sort of have like, people, some people know who I am. So that's why I say barely famous. I don't know if fame has a definition anymore because people are becoming famous just through Instagram and TikTok. Now. They don't have to be on a show. They don't have to be an actress. They don't have to be an actor. You know what I mean?

[Jay Shetty]

Yeah. There's like a micro fame, and you can be famous for just being. Specializing in something where if you know a whole lot about broccoli, you're gonna have a following, and someone's gonna see you be like, oh, my God, you're my favorite broccoli. You know, I think. And when Lunchbox asked you the question about being on tv, I think just doing content is television now. You know, anything on the phone, if it's in someone's eyes or ears, I.

[Melissa Fumero]

Think, too, with the. I don't want to call it a downfall that might be reaching, but cable is sort of going away. People are getting more views on their social media than when shows are airing on TV with a full production.

[Jay Shetty]

Yeah. And it's much cheaper to do, you know, and we can just do it. And that's why the raw stuff works so well, you know, and not the real, you know, shiny stuff. Well, I mean, it looks like you work really hard. That's. That's super cool. I'm so happy to see your success after the show. And, man, you got a lot of kids. That's pretty crazy. Seven kids. That's wild. Did you. What was the goal to have a large family? Like, did you have five? We're gonna do one more. And then it's like, oh, we got two more.

[Melissa Fumero]

No, that sort of happened after the. I didn't want kids originally. I never wanted kids. So when I had one and I grew up an only child, I was like, well, we better have one more. And then it sort of went kind of snowballed from there. And, you know, we joke about having an eighth, but eighth, eight feels like a lot to me.

[Jay Shetty]

Did it get easier physically, like 4, 5, 6, 7, like, to hold?

[Melissa Fumero]

No, it got worse.

[Jay Shetty]

Really?

[Melissa Fumero]

Yeah. I would say my body was way. It took it much easier back when I only had, you know, two and three. But by my fifth and my twins, I. I was going through it. I was going through it physically.

[Jay Shetty]

I feel like with six pregnancies, you have the sample size to actually ask you this. Could. Is there something that happened to you while you were having the kid that you knew it was gonna be a boy or girl?

[Melissa Fumero]

No. And I. I had gut feelings, but they weren't always right, so. And I didn't find out for the first three. I didn't find out if they were boys or girls. I was just like, I knew the next one was gonna be a girl. And they weren't until my daughter came was she's one of the twins.

[Jay Shetty]

Because people are like, if it's. If it's low, it's gonna be a girl. There are all these things. And I ask you again, who have been through six pregnancies, six different versions of labor, that it's all just a crapshoot the whole time?

[Melissa Fumero]

Oh, yeah. Every single time. No, that. The Chinese calendar, the little string.

[Jay Shetty]

That's awesome. Well, you guys can follow Kael on Instagram, Ael Lowry. And again, the podcast, it goes from Barely Famous Karma and Chaos Coffee Convos. Check those out. We'll put them in the body of the podcast. Our description as well. Hey, thanks for the time. And we're so happy we did not get scammed by you. It wasn't you. Yeah, yeah.

[Melissa Fumero]

No scammers allowed.

[Jay Shetty]

You do not have a manager in India named John.

[Amy]

I don't.

[Jay Shetty]

I don't. Yes. Yes. Well, I hope you have an awesome rest of the day. And thanks for spending some time with us, Kayl.

[Melissa Fumero]

Thank you so much.

[Jay Shetty]

All right, good to talk to you. Bye. Bye.

[Stephanie Beatriz]

The more better the merrier title of your podcast. All your old Brooklyn Nine Nine friends are appearing on your favorite podcast, More Better. Don't miss Brooklyn Nine Nine stars and show hosts Stephanie Beatriz and Melissa Fumero as they welcome their friends and former castmates back to laugh about old times and swap some stories. This week, it's Gina Linetti herself, the talented Chelsea Peretti.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Remember when we were in that scene where you guys were just supposed to hug and I was standing there?

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Melissa Fumero]

I was like, can I also hug them?

[Stephanie Beatriz]

Then next week, the 99 nonsense continues as the more better amigas sit down with Joe Latrulio, AKA Detective Charles Foyle. There'll be more laughs, more conversation, more stories from the set, and more more better. Don't miss a minute.

[Jay Shetty]

You felt safe enough to fill out a bad idea, right? I mean, that is the key because you're definitely not throwing out good ideas all the time. I mean, that's just not how it works.

[Stephanie Beatriz]

Listen to More Better with Stephanie and Melissa on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Arturo Castro]

Hi, I'm Arturo Castro, and I've been lucky enough to do stuff like Broad City and Narcos and Roadhouse and so many commercials about back pain. And now I'm starting a podcast because, honestly, guys, I don't feel the space is crowded enough. Get ready for Greatest Escapes, a new comedy podcast about the wildest True escape stories in history. Each week I'll be sitting down with some of the most hilarious actors and writers and comedians to tell them a buck wild tale from across history and time. People like Ed Helms, Diane Guerrero, Joseph Gordon Levitt and Zoe Chao.

[Jay Shetty]

Titanic, Charles Manson, Alcatraz, Assata Shakur, the sketchy guy named Steve.

[Arturo Castro]

It's giving funny true crime.

[Jay Shetty]

I love storytelling and I love you, so I can't wait.

[Arturo Castro]

Listen and subscribe to greatest escapes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[J]

This is John Cameron Mitchell and my new fiction podcast series, Cancellation island stars Holly Hunter as Karen, a wellness influencer who launches a rehab for the recently cancelled. In the future, we will all be cancelled for 15 minutes. But don't worry, we'll take you from broke to woke or your money back. Cancellation Island's revolutionary rehab therapies, like bad touch football, anti racism spin class, and mandatory ayahuasca ceremonies are designed to force the council to confront their worst impulses. But everything starts to fall apart when people start disappearing. Karen, where have you brought us Cancellation island, where a second chance might just be your last. Listen to Cancellation island on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Jay Shetty]

Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirror ball trophy from Dancing with a Star. So where else are you going to find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your basic NFL show show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything because we got lots to say. I. I texted you and you texted me back. Now, I don't know if you have the update, but like, all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like, it's all colored. They changed it and the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm gonna be honest, it was a little pink. There was something sentimental when you, when you send it. It was like, do I send the heart now? I don't like the color edition. It's extremely pink. Listen to Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's time for the good news with Lunchbox. Tell me something good.

[Lunchbox]

Julian Hernandez and his 12 year old son. We're gonna go for a hike in Utah. So they set out and they were only going to be gone for a few hours. They didn't bring much stuff. They get lost on the trail, they're gonna have to spend the night in the wilderness. They have no supplies and it's dark, it's cold, we don't have any food. Then they find a green backpack full of supplies in the middle of the wilderness, survive on that. And they get out of the wilderness after 36 hours. And it turns out there was a 15 year old back in January that was hiking over there, got lost and he had lost his backpack. And that's the backpack they found and they survived on it.

[Amy]

Oh, wow.

[Bobby Bones]

That's cool.

[Jay Shetty]

That.

[Amy]

I love that.

[Jay Shetty]

That's crazy.

[Lunchbox]

I mean, it's just there, full of supplies.

[Jay Shetty]

That's crazy. I would have thought I was on some show. I'd have thought somebody was messing with me. I'm looking up in the trees for cameras.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Jay Shetty]

Wow, that's crazy. Yeah, Great story. That is what it's all about. That was. Tell me something good. All right, what the crap? Story number one, this woman was going in for IVF and she had a kid that wasn't hers. Did you see this? They implanted with the wrong embryo.

[Amy]

That's not okay.

[Jay Shetty]

The baby came out and they were like, here's your baby as a black baby. She ain't black.

[Amy]

Okay, well. And at least her partner, husband, whatever, knew like it wasn't, you know.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, that's great.

[Amy]

She didn't like hook up with somebody else like he. It was an implanted embryo.

[Jay Shetty]

A 38 year old woman is suing Coastal Fertility specialists after giving birth to a baby boy through IVF who is not biologically hers due to an embryo mix up. That's crazy. That's not. You can't do that. I walked to the wrong car in the parking lot sometimes I'm like, oh, what a mix up. That's okay. This is not that. Murray, who is white, had used the sperm of someone with a similar appearance. The baby was not born white. The baby was born black because it was a black baby. And so genetic testing confirmed the mistake. I don't think you needed testing. No, I think you could just go, here's day. That's it. And she voluntarily gave custody of the baby to his biological parents after a few months. But a few months even.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, that's a long time.

[Jay Shetty]

She described the experience as devastating, saying she will always consider the child her son because that kid, that child Was in. Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

That's tough.

[Amy]

Oh, my gosh.

[Jay Shetty]

The clinic called the incident an isolated event.

[Amy]

Good thing they did.

[Jay Shetty]

They weren't like. Yeah, that happens all the time. This one just made the news. And implemented additional safeguards to prevent future errors. I don't know, maybe you do that. You start the company. Similar embryo mixup have. Have occurred, so. Yeah, that's from the Guardian. Do you want to do your story or. No, sure. It's not an embryo mix up, but Eddie had a. Oh, no, no, no.

[Bobby Bones]

We're not doing that story. No, no, no, we're not.

[Jay Shetty]

You've been told you can't do that one anymore.

[Bobby Bones]

We're not doing that story.

[Jay Shetty]

Okay. We've done it before.

[Bobby Bones]

You talking about when my first son was born? Yeah, I mean, I guess you want.

[Jay Shetty]

Me to, you know it.

[Amy]

No, we've told it.

[Bobby Bones]

There's no way I've told that on air.

[Jay Shetty]

We've told on the podcast. I'm positive of it. Oh, you told it on air, right? I know. Yes. 100. 100.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, all right, I'll tell it.

[Jay Shetty]

I'll tell it. You sure? Yeah, go ahead. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

So when my first son was born, it was a C section, so they pulled him out and I guess like when the babies are born, they don't breathe and you've got to kind of like knock that fluid out of their. Their throat and they can finally breathe. Well, my son wasn't breathing, so when he came out, he was like dark and.

[Jay Shetty]

But you're Mexican, so. Sure.

[Bobby Bones]

No, no, but, but like dark. So you thought it was like dark purple. And really for a split second I'm like, that's, that's, that's not. That's not my kid.

[Amy]

Wait, did she hook up with a purple person?

[Jay Shetty]

No, he thought, could have been a black person.

[Bobby Bones]

Totally looked like a black baby. And, and my wife, she. She had the whole like, thing in front of her so she couldn't see the baby. So she's holding my hands like, is he beautiful? And I like overhand, because in my mind I'm like, he thought that wasn't.

[Amy]

His baby for a split second.

[Bobby Bones]

But then my son started breathing. He turned the color. He's look more like me. And I'm like, all right, we're good.

[Jay Shetty]

It's been a while, but you told that story.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't remember that.

[Lunchbox]

100.

[Amy]

I don't remember.

[Lunchbox]

You haven't told the part about you let go of her hand, but that is great. And then baby number two, you made her drive to the Hospital, right?

[Bobby Bones]

No, we're not talking about that.

[Jay Shetty]

Here's another one. There's another story. A guy from an uncontacted tribe who is, like, living in a place where we as civilized society have not been to them. We don't want to bother them. We don't want to give them diseases. They stay in their own places. He came out and asked normal people for fire.

[Amy]

Yeah, I saw pictures of him. He's just wearing a loincloth.

[Jay Shetty]

That's it. So a young man from an isolated indigenous tribe approached a river community, and he walked in just like Amy says, barefoot, wearing a small loincloth. He was very calm, in good health. He waved two wooden sticks, was like, attention. Can I have your attention, basically? And so the person walks over, and obviously their language didn't match because no one has ever been in that tribe. They leave them alone. They make sure nobody even goes in. And he was asking for fire. So they got some cell phone footage, which is what you saw, and they were showing you how to use a lighter. But you try to show someone a lighter that's never seen any technology at all. It's like taking someone from the 20s and showing them a PS5. Like, they would have no idea how to use that because they didn't have any ramp up to that.

[Bobby Bones]

But what a game changer, though. They'd be like, we could have had this this whole time.

[Jay Shetty]

No, he couldn't understand it. So, no, it wasn't a game changer because it was too advanced and he never understood it to take back with them. But. So officials came soon after and they gave the kids some fish. He was taken to a nearby facility operated by the group. And so now they're saying necessary care to make sure that the kid is healthy, because they said maybe he was unhealthy too.

[Amy]

Yeah, that's why he came out.

[Jay Shetty]

What the crap? Crazy Eddie, thanks for sharing and being vulnerable with us, though.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, no problem.

[Jay Shetty]

That's it, Bones. And that is the end of the first episode half of the podcast. That is the end of the first half of the podcast. That is the end of the first half of the podcast. That is the end of the first half of the podcast. You can go to podcast two or you can wait till podcast to come out.

[Lunchbox]

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[Jay Shetty]

Enjoy seven days of non stop entertainment.

[Lunchbox]

All brought to you by Signature Cruise Experiences. Don't wait. Guests who join the pre sale are already booking their staterooms and you can get in line right behind them. Visit topshelfcountrycruise.com to join the pre sale for free. No deposit required.

[Stephanie Beatriz]

Hey Brooklyn 9 9ers. It's a reunion. The ladies of the 99 are getting back together for a special episode of the podcast More Better. Hosts Stephanie Beatriz and Melissa Fumero welcome friend and former castmate Chelsea Ferretti.

[Chelsea Peretti]

Remember when we were in that scene where you guys were just supposed to hug and I was standing there?

[Jay Shetty]

Oh yeah. I was like, can I also hug them?

[Stephanie Beatriz]

Listen to More Better with Stephanie and Melissa on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Follow More Better and start listening on the free iHeartradio app today.

[Jay Shetty]

Hey, I'm Jay Shetty. My latest episode is with financial expert Scott Galloway. If you are doing a lot of side hustles, it's very, very difficult to great at your main hustle. The only way you're going to build real wealth and economic security is to go all in on one thing that is greatness Focus. Scott is a professor of marketing at NYU Stern School of Business. Scott Galloway Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple.

[Arturo Castro]

Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jon Stewart]

Jon Stewart is back at the Daily show and he's bringing his signature wit and insight straight to your ears with the Daily Show Ears Edition podcast. Dive into John's unique take on the biggest topics in politics, entertainment, sports and more. Joined by the sharp voices of the show's correspondents and contributors, and with extended interviews and exclusive weekly headline roundups, this podcast gives you content you won't find anywhere else. Ready to laugh and stay informed? Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.