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Lunchbox
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Eddie
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Morgan
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Amy
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Lunchbox
Listen to United States of Kennedy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. The Bobby Bones Show. All right, give me one story from your vacation and we can go around the room. We were gone all last week. We had a couple days of new shows, and then Friday there was no need for a show. It was July 4th. But give me a story from your vacation. Let's go, Morgan first.
Mike D
Okay. So I did not realize Minnesota is this beautiful, gorgeous place. I don't know why. I think I just assumed it was kind of the Midwest. There wasn't a lot there. We were all the way on, like, the north shore of Minnesota. And I may have found, like, one of my new favorite towns in the whole country. It's called Grand Marais. It's at, like the northernmost point. We were like 15 miles from Canada.
Lunchbox
Oh, got it.
Amy
Yeah, yeah.
Mike D
In like the very top. And it's like a lake town. But also you have mountains and there's hiking, there's waterfalls everywhere. And I just like, I fell in love with Minnesota the whole trip.
Lunchbox
You picked a good time to go to that part of the world because you wait four months, it's freaking covered in snow and ice and cold. Yeah, Minnesota's cool because they do have a lot of nature. It's a massive state though, too.
Amy
Yeah.
Lunchbox
Why Minnesota?
Mike D
Somebody on Instagram had messaged, cause I'm trying to see all the states. That's my goal. And I think I have eight or nine left. And I had never been to Illinois, Iowa, or Minnesota. And somebody messaged me and was like, hey, I think you could complete this all in a road trip. And I'm like, well, don't have to tell me twice. I'll do a road trip.
Lunchbox
So.
Mike D
So we like mapped it out and Minnesota was kind of the top most point. And then we came back down and came through Iowa. After hitting Chicago.
Lunchbox
Huh. I'm gonna do squinty eyes. Like. Hmm. For those. Only listening. This is me evaluating something in my head.
Eddie
Yeah.
Lunchbox
So couple things come to mind. Your boyfriend just agreed to go on that full road trip with you.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Lunchbox
You just decided all of it, and he's just good to go. And you guys went.
Amy
Yeah.
Mike D
He was like, I'm totally up for this.
Lunchbox
Excellent. Number two, how does he feel about your dog being everywhere with you all the time?
Mike D
He loves it. He loves animals as much as I do.
Lunchbox
I love animals, too, but I don't take my dog.
Amy
But that's how they met, kind of. Because he had, like, love dogs, drink beer shirt on or something.
Lunchbox
I hear you.
Amy
Pet dogs.
Lunchbox
I just wonder because, like, Morgan's on the beach and her dog is right with her on the beach. I'm thinking to myself, if I was dating somebody and they wanted to bring their cat everywhere that we went.
Amy
He pushed the dog stroller.
Lunchbox
Yeah. I would. Too early in a relationship.
Amy
Oh, okay.
Lunchbox
I don't know. I'm not even hating. I'm just asking, you know, just questions.
Eddie
He probably wants a break from that dog. Let's be real.
Lunchbox
I'm just saying that it's a lot of dog.
Eddie
Morgan, don't say he.
Lunchbox
I don't even want a human around that.
Eddie
Exactly.
Lunchbox
Because you can't go in certain places. Cause the dog. Right?
Mike D
Yeah. I mean, we were hanging out on patios and stuff like that. And if we ever got to a point where it was like, maybe like, okay, we have the dog. We can't do this. I'd be like, I'm sorry. Like, you can go do this if it, like, you want to go see it. He's like, no, this is great.
Lunchbox
I want a chance that he would go do it and leave you and the dog. By the way, you ain't ever going to meet a dog lover like me. I love you. Can't. Can't love him more.
Amy
You have some competition.
Lunchbox
But I'm saying I just wouldn't. I feel like if I were dating somebody and they want to take their dog everywhere we went, even on vacation, I'd be like, cut the cord. No offense.
Mike D
I mean, he didn't. He didn't have any issue with it. But in all fairness, I will always also plan trips that don't include her. But if we're going to do a road trip, she's coming.
Lunchbox
Fair. Listen, that's awesome. If you can make a whole trip and you go places where the dog's always welcome, that's awesome. It's for me. My bulldog ain't going a lot of places. One, he's snorting, he's chasing things. He ain't that well mannered. He's farting. So your dog doesn't have those. Those issues?
Mike D
No. Yeah. She loves being in public. Everybody loves seeing her. And that's why we bring the stroller, because then she can come more frequently because she gets tired. She's 10 years old at this point.
Lunchbox
Okay. I just wondered his level of. I'm tired of this. The dog coming everywhere. At some point, at some point in the relationship, he's going to go leave the dog back some because he's doing early relationship vibes right now.
Ray
Oh, and if he does, is it over?
Mike D
No, no, I. Like I said, we will plan. There'll be balance. I will do trips without her, but I'm just going to also plan opportunities where she can come because they're only around for a short time. So I got to make the best of it.
Lunchbox
I hear you. I hear you.
Mike D
And so far, he didn't have any complaints. He's also just not a big complainer, though, in general.
Lunchbox
He just started dating.
Amy
Yeah.
Mike D
I mean, but I don't know. That's just like, not his personality.
Lunchbox
You have found your match then, if that's the case. It's just. It just felt like the dog was every single place.
Eddie
That's tough.
Amy
Yeah, but I thought it was cute.
Eddie
No, it is.
Lunchbox
Well, you didn't live it.
Ray
You saw the pictures.
Eddie
To a certain extent.
Lunchbox
Yeah. I just.
Amy
But I think that her dog is really well behaved and it's a therapy dog.
Eddie
I mean, what is that?
Amy
Yeah, it's a trained, licensed therapist.
Eddie
Is that what you're telling me?
Lunchbox
Was he having trouble? Was he going through something I don't even know about? I think if he really.
Amy
I mean, like, her dog is just really.
Mike D
Well, she's well trained.
Amy
Trained.
Lunchbox
But you couldn't go in a restaurant. I think I would get irritated. If we're on vacation, we can not go in a restaurant.
Amy
But they went to patio places.
Lunchbox
I don't want to eat on the patio all the time. Could you have left it back in the room?
Mike D
There were some places where we could have.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Mike D
And we just didn't. Yeah.
Lunchbox
Okay.
Mike D
I don't.
Eddie
She's never so awesome in the room.
Lunchbox
I'm not arguing with. Your dog's awesome again. I'll say it again. Never met dog lover. Like me. Love it. But I just think.
Eddie
Here's my next question. Did your dog sleep in the bed with you guys?
Mike D
She always sleeps in the bed.
Lunchbox
Oh, my God. Wow.
Eddie
Oh, my God.
Lunchbox
He's not complaining, guys.
Mike D
He loves her as much as I do.
Lunchbox
Because you paid the whole trip.
Eddie
No, that's what I'm wondering. Where does he say, hey, how about we put him on. Put her on the bed?
Mike D
Guys, I don't think you realize he's. He's the same, like, level as me.
Lunchbox
Does he have a dog?
Mike D
No, he had just lost it.
Lunchbox
Stop, stop, stop.
Amy
He just lost his.
Mike D
Right before we met.
Lunchbox
Are you sure?
Mike D
Yes. He literally has a tattoo on his ankle of his dog's name because he.
Bobby Bones
Likes it to go on walks with him.
Mike D
Amy, I don't know what to tell you.
Lunchbox
I think Amy's tapping out to be on your team.
Mike D
Like, we are the same level of animal lover.
Eddie
He has the dog's name tattooed on his ankle so the dog can go on a walk with him.
Lunchbox
Yeah.
Amy
Like, whenever he goes, okay, he needs a therapy dog mural or, like, a paw or something. Oh, I thought he had, like, the.
Mike D
Whole dog's face tattooed on his ankle.
Amy
And I.
Lunchbox
Sorry.
Mike D
I just.
Lunchbox
He tattooed the dog on his ankle so he'd go on a walk with him.
Amy
I know the name. I get it now.
Mike D
It's the name.
Ray
But to go on a walk with him, that's everyone.
Lunchbox
He goes.
Eddie
So I got a question.
Lunchbox
You gotta show Amy, Eddie. You gotta show Amy. You gotta show Amy.
Amy
Cause she's all right.
Bobby Bones
You know what?
Mike D
It's fine. You guys don't understand.
Amy
I thought, like, the ankle was, like, you know, the dog's nose, the face was around it. I was picturing this whole other thing, but I get it.
Lunchbox
Okay, but if he got him, like, on the shoulder. Dog can't go on a walk with him.
Eddie
It has to be on the ankle.
Lunchbox
Okay, guys, that's emotional walk. Oh, my gosh.
Amy
Yeah. You're.
Eddie
Another question.
Amy
I mean.
Lunchbox
Yes, please ask.
Amy
That's sweet.
Eddie
When this dog sleeps in the bed with you every single night.
Lunchbox
Yep.
Eddie
Do you snuggle with that dog and not him?
Lunchbox
What? No.
Eddie
No.
Amy
Sleep at the foot of the bed, Remy.
Mike D
She just sleeps forever. Like, sometimes she'll be on the floor. It's up to her. I don't, like, stop her from sleeping.
Ray
Oh, so Remy's sleeping with his dog? Kind of.
Lunchbox
Yeah. Foot of the bed, Remy sleeps on his ankle.
Eddie
Yeah. So that way they can have. They can get to know each other.
Lunchbox
Yeah. Oh, my goodness. He. Sorry. Maybe I just give it a break today. You had a question, Go ahead.
Eddie
Or you Had a statement.
Mike D
Are you crying?
Lunchbox
No, I'm not crying.
Eddie
He's laughing.
Lunchbox
I'm just. I. He. It seems like he uses a lot of hair gel.
Mike D
No, there's not an abnormal amount, but.
Bobby Bones
Some he uses like a paste.
Amy
Oh, oh, like pomade. Yeah.
Lunchbox
Great. Love it.
Amy
Like a balm.
Lunchbox
Yes. Great. The only thing that I see that concerns because we're just talking, just bunch of friends here hanging out. Sometimes you learn history to keep it from happening again. And I don't know anything about this guy. Not met him.
Amy
Well, I would say that's the most important reason to learn study history.
Lunchbox
Right. So it doesn't happen again. Oh, good point. Yeah. You have dated guys that were big hair gel guys?
Mike D
A few. Some not. I've did both.
Lunchbox
It seems like the bad experiences have been with hair gel type guys.
Mike D
Okay, well.
Ray
Or paste or balm. Balm.
Mike D
I think a lot of guys tend.
Bobby Bones
To wear hair paste.
Mike D
No, I think they do.
Lunchbox
Like normally on vacation, just hanging out.
Mike D
He also, he doesn't like when he wears hats.
Amy
I think he just has good hair. Right?
Mike D
You're telling me you put nothing in your hair about me?
Lunchbox
Never. Never.
Mike D
I feel like that's abnormal.
Lunchbox
The. Oh yeah. Yeah, it is.
Eddie
I don't either.
Lunchbox
Yeah, the only. Well, okay, it is a bad bit. Abnormal.
Ray
That's not funny.
Lunchbox
But I'm just saying your history of dudes that were like tan with hair gel and fit it. It has not been traditionally good for you. And so I'm just hoping this guy that, that are all those. Is not like those other guys.
Mike D
I mean, so far he hasn't been. There hasn't been a no signs.
Lunchbox
Do you understand?
Mike D
Indication of that.
Lunchbox
Do you understand what I'm saying?
Mike D
I mean, you could put in the category of type.
Amy
Sure.
Lunchbox
Got it. Thank you.
Mike D
Also, the last guy that I dated wore hell hair gel and he was not, he was not necessarily a bad guy.
Lunchbox
I hear you. I don't think he's a bad guy. I don't think last guy was a bad guy at all. I didn't know him either. But do you understand what I'm saying, Amy? Like you see him and he's like in his true mediums with his hair gel and his tan and that's Morgan's type. And that's a, that's a good type. It's a good looking good dude. But that type's not worked out for her in the past. And so what I. My concern is we're walking down the same trail we've walked down a few times.
Amy
I don't think he's giving those vibes.
Lunchbox
The only vibes I can see are the vibes from 10,000ft up.
Bobby Bones
I mean, I even sent Morgan a.
Amy
Message over the break that, like, him. What was it was he was pushing the stroller. Like, I just felt like that. I don't know that the other guy. One in particular that I'm thinking about would have done that.
Mike D
No.
Amy
Yeah.
Mike D
I just think any of the last three wouldn't have.
Amy
Yeah, he's caring for Morgan in a different way.
Lunchbox
Love it. And I hope that's the case. And I'm not saying that's not the case. I'm just saying it meets that criteria that the other guys have taught me is the criteria of what Morgan should avoid. But I don't know. His personality. Don't know anything about him. That's just something that has come to my mind.
Mike D
Well, that's a bummer. But, yeah, so far, no other flags that. That put him in the category of the other types.
Lunchbox
Because if it's your type physically and he doesn't also have the loser tendencies, that's perfect, because he's your type physically, and he doesn't have the loser tendencies that a lot of times come with that type, but not every time. It has to come with that type. That's all. Anybody else think that at all, or am I the only one?
Eddie
They all look.
Ray
They all look like the same dude to me. You know what I mean?
Amy
Like, every time she didn't.
Lunchbox
Yeah, 90%. Here.
Eddie
Here's the one.
Amy
The one that.
Eddie
It's not the hair gel for me. It's not any of that. It's just every guy she, like, starts dating, they love the dog as much as her.
Lunchbox
Yeah, well, automatically.
Eddie
And then it's like, man, I don't.
Mike D
Know that I would agree with that.
Lunchbox
And you don't have to. And I know mine's based on nothing factual except history with something I have no idea about now. So who.
Ray
Who booked the trip? Like, did you book the trip and then he.
Lunchbox
A listener did on, like, Tik Tok.
Mike D
No, she suggested it. No, we. We booked it together. We sat down and planned it.
Lunchbox
Okay, awesome. I hope it. And I can't wait for it to be even better.
Amy
So how did y' all decide?
Lunchbox
I'm not rooting against you. I'm rooting for you. I could not root for you any harder than I am.
Amy
How did y' all decide who paid for what?
Mike D
We just split everything, just basically down the middle as much as we could.
Eddie
What do you mean as much as you could.
Lunchbox
Well, you can't go 50. 50 on everything. Like you. Yeah, I know what you're saying.
Amy
He has a job and he's able to pay.
Lunchbox
He has a job.
Mike D
Yes.
Amy
And he's. He has a job and it was no problem.
Mike D
Yes, he's very much employed. He has a car. He has all the basic necessities for survival.
Ray
That's good.
Lunchbox
Hey, and listen, at one point. At one point, Amy's little boy do. I didn't even have a car. Right. No, he was your boy toy, and he was driving in your car, and we all just turned a blind eye.
Ray
And you thought we didn't know it.
Lunchbox
And you thought we didn't know it. We're like, what's the kid doing dropping Amy off at work?
Amy
That's not okay.
Lunchbox
It was funny.
Ray
No one said anything to us.
Lunchbox
No, we were just like.
Amy
I didn't either.
Lunchbox
Yeah, we were all just like, okay. We kind of acknowledged in each other's eyes. Yeah.
Eddie
No, Abby did ask me one day, did you see that kid driving in his car?
Lunchbox
Abby, did you really? Yeah, Abby.
Mike D
I don't think I said kid, but.
Amy
I just said the young guy driving Amy's car. Yeah, I was a little confused.
Lunchbox
Yeah.
Mike D
I didn't. Amy and I did have this conversation one time. We were talking about, what if it's the same dude?
Lunchbox
Oh, my God. What if Morgan's with AIM with that dude?
Mike D
No, it's not the same guy.
Bobby Bones
I promise.
Lunchbox
Eskimo sister.
Mike D
We were talking about him, and she. She was really excited. It was in the very beginning. And she was like, yeah, and he, like, drives my car. I was like, wait. And I had to, like, be the friend. That was like, okay. Yeah, that's. But we like him.
Bobby Bones
Good.
Mike D
Okay. And I, like. In my head, I was like, he doesn't have a car. I don't know how this is gonna work.
Amy
Yeah, I know. He had just moved back from Europe. It was a whole thing. Well, whatever. I don't know. It's confusing times. Yeah, but it wasn't what. It was exactly what y' all are thinking.
Lunchbox
My wife and I ran up to him once at a sandwich shop.
Eddie
It was weird.
Lunchbox
Did you ever tell you that?
Amy
Yes, she told me.
Eddie
You saw him in a sandwich shop.
Amy
Yes. Well, Caitlin, she knew him.
Lunchbox
Yeah.
Eddie
He was working.
Lunchbox
I didn't know him. Okay.
Eddie
You didn't know him.
Lunchbox
I know anything about it. Right. My wife will lock something, even from me. If somebody says to her, don't. She doesn't tell me. I Think that's quite unfair. I should know everything. I do. I think I should know everything she knows.
Amy
Said to her, don't say anything, but.
Lunchbox
She will not say anything about anything unless she can. Has permission to say. And I think that's great for my secrets to her. But it's like I. I should have the ability to know everything she knows. I'm her husband. If a friend tells you a secret, they should understand you're telling me too because I don't say crap. But I didn't. I don't know anything. There's like four people I don't know secrets on. It pisses me off. Anyway, I saw him and I was like, why was that dude weird? And then I. And then she. My wife wouldn't say anything about it. She goes, amy knows him. And I was like, that's the dude that drove the car. And she wouldn't say anything else about it. She goes, I don't know. I was like, that's a dude that drove Amy's car into work. And I put it together. But I know anything else about it.
Eddie
Was that at the time he was still driving in his car or that was after.
Amy
No, that's why he was acting weird to Caitlyn and she had. Yeah.
Eddie
So how did you meet him?
Ray
That's a good question.
Lunchbox
I mean like, man, it's turned.
Amy
Through a friend.
Ray
Good job, Morgan.
Lunchbox
Through a friend.
Amy
Yeah, through a friend.
Bobby Bones
Like.
Amy
Like a.
Lunchbox
And how much?
Amy
My friend isn't even friends with them anymore.
Lunchbox
How much younger?
Amy
Like I felt bad cuz I was like, I feel like this whole thing like ruined Yalls friendship too. She's like, yeah. I'm like, I don't know. Not a story to tell for now.
Eddie
How much younger?
Amy
Oh, oh, he was.
Lunchbox
Don't lie. Don't lie.
Amy
I'm not.
Lunchbox
Do not lie. Cuz I saw him face to face.
Amy
I'm trying to remember, was he two?
Lunchbox
Do not.
Amy
Or 30? Was he 32? 32.
Lunchbox
Okay.
Amy
But I was 44. No, I'm 44 now.
Lunchbox
Yeah, well, that was.
Ray
It wasn't that long ago.
Lunchbox
Amy's acting like it was 20 years ago when we lived in Austin.
Amy
I was 42 and he was actually. He was older than that. He was 34. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no.
Lunchbox
I put him. I put him just having prom.
Amy
I don't remember. I just remember.
Lunchbox
Well, tell me a story from your vacation.
Amy
Well, I smuggled a child into another country.
Lunchbox
Whoa. Yeah. Was it the guy, that kid?
Amy
No, no. But I had no idea. No idea. That if you are, you have another child traveling with you that you're supposed to have, like, this consent form from the kid's parents that's even notarized.
Lunchbox
I think that makes sense, but I had no idea.
Amy
Totally makes sense, right? Like, obviously, when I got to the other country, we went down to the Caymans. They were questioning me.
Lunchbox
Where's the Caymans?
Amy
Yeah, it's in the Caribbean.
Ray
Sounds.
Amy
I had never been either. I know I'd never been either. Of course, my kids were in heaven because it's just, I think, like, south of Haiti. Like, it's total vibes. They were like, oh, they felt.
Lunchbox
It's like if I were in southern Missouri, I'm like, Arkansas's right over the line.
Amy
My kids are like, oh, this weather is amazing. But so my friend Jill, y' all know her. I've been friends with her. I met her in my 20s. She's gone every year since she was a kid. So they were going down. She's invited me several, several years. I've never been able to go. And I finally was like, I think we can go this year. So we all went. And then my boyfriend decided to come with his kids, and my daughter took a friend and, you know, I was very excited that she was taking this as a friend. That's a great influence. Like, I just really like her. It was going to be a good vibe because my boyfriend has a daughter and, like, then my daughter. And it could kind of like give. Give them a little crew, you know, if there's any awkwardness. And I'm so pumped. And then we got to. You know, you. When you're going into another country, you have to go through customs and all that. And I don't have a letter for her. And this woman, thankfully, just had, I don't know what you call it. Mercy on us.
Lunchbox
Is it because they wanted to make sure nobody trafficked kids?
Amy
Yeah.
Lunchbox
And is that really what it is?
Amy
It obviously makes so much sense. And I get it. And her. Her parents didn't think of it. I guess they'd never let her go to the. Another country with another family. I had never done this. So anyway, fast forward, we were able to get through, but it very much could have been a situation where they were not going to let her enter the country.
Lunchbox
And, well, you'd had to go home.
Amy
I would have gone.
Lunchbox
Gone home, take her back.
Amy
Like, there's no. Then they wouldn't have let me in the country because I was trying to bring this child into the country.
Lunchbox
So then again, I wouldn't have thought of that either, but, yeah. So I'm glad that's a rule and a law.
Amy
Absolutely.
Lunchbox
But I'm also surprised they would just go like, you look honest. Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Amy
Praise be.
Ray
Mercy.
Lunchbox
Yeah.
Amy
I don't know what it was like. Thank you, Lord.
Lunchbox
I'm looking at the Cayman Islands here, and I've never been. I don't know how airplane lands there.
Ray
So small, dude.
Lunchbox
Now, again, I'm looking at a map. I'm sure it's actually quite big.
Ray
Zoom in a little.
Lunchbox
I'm talking about.
Eddie
Whoa.
Lunchbox
Like it.
Amy
I took it. We flew southwest. Like a Southwest.
Lunchbox
Southwest flies to the Caymans.
Mike D
Yes.
Amy
So like a 737 or whatever those are.
Lunchbox
How did it fit on that thing? Because this island looks tiny. Like, if you zoom back, like Cuba, you could fit, like, I don't know, 500 of these on Cuba. Port au Prince. Jamaica's next to it. And then Port au Prince, where Amy's kids are from. From Haiti. Are they from Port au Prince specifically?
Amy
Yep. Well, that's where their orphanage was.
Lunchbox
That's where I was. Yeah. It's like a boat ride away. But this Cayman island is small.
Eddie
It's 22 miles long, the whole thing.
Lunchbox
Huh. I wonder. Comparable to Rhode Island. Huh? Like, what? The Cayman Islands. Comparable to Rhode island there.
Amy
Yeah. Southwest plane. You don't have to, like, take another little plane somewhere or you don't have to take a boat, but, like, 48.
Lunchbox
Miles is Rhode Island.
Amy
We were staying on a beach called Seven Mile Beach.
Lunchbox
That's the whole island. It's called the Whole Island Beach.
Amy
Like the section where we were. And you know what's so crazy? Speaking of airplanes and people, guess who I ran into leaving the Cayman airport? At the airport.
Ray
Kenny Chesney.
Lunchbox
Oh, Kip Moore.
Ray
Right?
Amy
No, it's not anything. Nobody's gonna care.
Lunchbox
Oh, well, then we want to make a big deal.
Amy
Because, y' all know, if it's so crazy, like I was telling my kids. This is insane. Insane. I cannot believe it. So we're in line, about to go through security, leaving, and I look over, and I see my best friend from high school, one of them Luke.
Ray
Well, we would have never gotten that.
Lunchbox
Not only would we have never gotten.
Eddie
That, we haven't talked about him in 20 years.
Lunchbox
We don't care.
Ray
You saw your friend?
Amy
No, no. But y' all know, isn't that random? You're in another country. And then I'm like, kids. I'm like. And Luke was like, I was at your birthday party back in whenever. And Then I was like, kids. I was in his wedding. Like, it just was so crazy. And we had been on the same Seven Mile island for days, and I never ran into them. And I was so bummed. But he doesn't have social media, so I didn't know he was there.
Lunchbox
Dang. It's crazy to run into somebody that you don't. They haven't seen a long time. Somewhere.
Ray
It's a small world.
Lunchbox
Yeah. Saw my geography teacher in, like, a Houston Walmart. No, a Galveston Walmart when I was young.
Ray
That's crazy.
Lunchbox
Mr. Tolleson. It was weird. I was like, you don't. You don't belong here.
Ray
That's crazy. When you see your teacher, like, in your own hometown.
Lunchbox
Yeah.
Ray
Now.
Lunchbox
Yeah. Imagine a Galveston Walmart.
Eddie
Ran into Gigi and Chris in the Houston airport. I met him in college. Hadn't seen him since. And I got off a plane. They were getting on a plane. I was like, you get on planes? That's crazy.
Amy
Well, we talked about Shirtless Luke.
Lunchbox
Yeah.
Eddie
And I'm gonna tell you what. The Cayman Islands, they know what they're doing on the tourism side, because you go to visit Cayman Islands dot com. First picture, chick, blonde. Nice. They have her butt just standing in the water. Next picture down, two chicks in bikinis underneath the water, snorkel. And they show them. I mean, it's like they are showing you the hot chicks.
Lunchbox
I'm looking at the map because my geography is not good on where things are because I didn't know where the Cayman Islands were. I don't. You could have said, here's a map and I'll give you 10 pics and you get to pick where Belize is. I'd have missed every pick.
Amy
Oh, Belize. That's in Mexico.
Lunchbox
It's in South America. Yes. And it is like Cayman Islands. If you just take. You just go to the water. Belize is like, on the water. I. I don't know where Belize is.
Ray
But is Belize part.
Lunchbox
I might have thought it was in Europe.
Amy
No, no, no.
Ray
You knew it was in the America.
Lunchbox
I don't know. I don't know that I would have. I tell you what I am.
Amy
Belize.
Lunchbox
No, you're thinking of Belize. Navida.
Ray
Same thing.
Eddie
So what'd you guys do? Did you guys fish? What'd you do?
Amy
Fish? No, but they do have something there called Stingray City.
Eddie
It's right here on their Things to do.
Amy
And it's the clearest water you've ever seen. And you swim with stingrays, did you? Yeah.
Lunchbox
Belize. Guatemala.
Eddie
Chick swings.
Lunchbox
Honduras.
Ray
So Belize is part of Salvador, the main American continent, Nicaragua.
Lunchbox
So I was in Costa Rica for a couple of months, and right above it, I know, is Nicaragua. And they were like, do not. People don't drive from Costa Rica up to America, because at some point you're gonna get robbed or stopped. It's very unsafe. But Belize, pretty safe. The reason Belize comes to mind is. Remember the. The band, the Ting Tings?
Amy
What do they sing?
Lunchbox
I'll sing the song. You'll know it immediately.
Ray
But I wanted the Christmas song.
Lunchbox
No, no. If I. As soon as I sing it, you'll know it. But I just didn't know if they call me. Oh, they call me Stacy.
Amy
That's not my name.
Lunchbox
That's not my name.
Amy
That's not my name.
Lunchbox
Yeah. So that song. They had that song. And I saw them on Tick Tock, and they kind of. They're, like, back, and I just messaged them. I was like, hey, let me interview you guys. And they were like, sure, we're in Belize, living in Belize. And I was like, oh, so I'm gonna interview them. But I didn't know. And I thought Belize was in Europe. I really did. Oh, my head.
Ray
Amy's cousin.
Amy
My cousin lived there.
Ray
Lived in Belize.
Lunchbox
Oh, the psychic.
Amy
Yeah.
Eddie
Where'd she live now?
Amy
She called into Belize. Well, she had to move to Austin when her mom got sick, but now her mom since has passed and that season is over, so they're moving to Mexico. Somewhere in Mexico.
Eddie
Well, I'll tell you what. This place you went has a lot of beaches. Dang.
Lunchbox
I think it's all beach.
Amy
Pretty much an island surrounded by.
Eddie
Well, I'm just telling you, it's Cayman Kai Beach, East End Beach, Governor's Beach, Seven Mile Beach.
Amy
That's where I was. Seven Mile.
Ray
And they have all blonde chicks just hanging out with.
Lunchbox
I mean, they have all chicks upside down.
Eddie
Pictures are chicks, dude. It's amazing.
Ray
That's awesome, dude.
Lunchbox
Shrimp on steak.
Amy
That's exactly what it was like.
Mike D
You should go.
Lunchbox
Probably not just, like, crab and shrimp.
Ray
I think that's about it.
Lunchbox
I think that's about it.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Lunchbox
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Eddie
So what happened at Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to.
Morgan
There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond and.
Amy
Left a woman behind to drown.
Eddie
There's a famous headline, I think, in the New York Daily News. It's Teddy Escapes, Blonde drowns. And in a strange way, right, that sort of tells you the story really became about Ted's political future, Ted's political hopes. Will Ted become president?
Morgan
Kappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control.
Amy
And he's not the only Kennedy to survive a scandal.
Morgan
The Kennedys have lived through disgrace, affairs, violence, you name it. So is there a curse? Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family.
Amy
Listen to to United States of Kennedy.
Lunchbox
On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
Ray
American history is full of wise people.
Lunchbox
Walt Whitman said something like 99.99% of war is diarrhea and 1% is glory.
Mike D
Those founding fathers were gossipy AF and.
Bobby Bones
They love to cut each other down.
Ray
I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline, the show where you send us your questions about American history. And I find the answers, including the nuggets of wisdom our history has to offer. Hamilton pauses, and then he says, the greatest man that ever lived was Julius Caesar. And Jefferson writes in his diary, this proves that Hamilton is for a dictator based on corruption.
Lunchbox
My favorite line was what Neil Armstrong said. It would have been harder to fake it than to do it.
Ray
Listen to American History Hotline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Lunchbox
Here we go on the Bobby Bones show now.
Caitlin Butts
Caitlin buds.
Lunchbox
Caitlin, it is great to meet you. I'm a big fan.
Bobby Bones
Thank you. I can tell.
Lunchbox
I like. I love your song. First off, I think it's so good. I think it's so different. I think it's so catchy. I don't even know how I heard it the first time, but I just started playing it. Oh, yeah, you made the video. That was super nice, too. In the back of the van yeah. Or bus.
Bobby Bones
Van. Very much so. Van.
Lunchbox
I was watching an Instagram or a TikTok video you did where you're like, I'm at the venue and it kind of kills the vibe, but I'm right beside the people that are lined up. I thought that was very human of you to show that side of a touring artist.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, I mean, it's kind of. I've been doing this for so long, and there's some certain. You want to. To establish some kind of mystique sometimes, and it's ruined quite a bit sometimes, and that's okay. But that's real life, and that's where I'm at. And hopefully someday I'll look back at that video and from my bus or something.
Lunchbox
So I just want to know about you in general. Like, where'd you grow up?
Bobby Bones
I grew up in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Lunchbox
Like, in Tulsa, like the city Tulsa? My wife's from near Tulsa.
Amy
Oh, really?
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Lunchbox
Like Fort Gibson?
Bobby Bones
No, it's Tulsa, straight up.
Lunchbox
And so who are famous country artists from near Tulsa? Like, did you guys have any? Hometown hero? Garth?
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Lunchbox
Reba.
Bobby Bones
Kind of still water Reba.
Lunchbox
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Carrie was one from Chicota.
Lunchbox
I've been to the pizza shop where she used to work.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Lunchbox
Yeah. They still have one of the big pizza. They're like, Carrie used this pizza. It's kind of fun.
Bobby Bones
That's awesome. I mean, there's like, Toby Keith from Norman. There's so many Okies. Vince Gill.
Lunchbox
Did you grow up loving country music?
Bobby Bones
I did. I grew up doing musical theater myself. But there's always something, like, inter intertwined with country music. I was doing numbers like Let Her Rip by the Chicks or Goodbye Earl or Johnny Cash's Get Rhythm. I was doing, like, tap dances to those things. I grew up doing all that kind of thing, but country music always was weaved in. Into what I did and what I loved. I think because they have. Musical theater and country music have so much in common. Bear with me. There's, like, humor and storytelling and theatrics and things like that in both things. And that's kind of what's made me.
Lunchbox
My wife, when we first started dating, made me watch Oklahoma, which I had never seen Oklahoma before, and I thought it held up pretty well, except for the whole dream sequence. I feel like that's a little long other than that. But I feel like, you know a lot of those songs from Oklahoma. Like, that's country theater.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, totally.
Lunchbox
You know, the. I didn't know that. Oh, what a beautiful morning. I didn't know that was from a musical? Yeah, that was from, like, a soap ad or something until I watched that, until I finally saw Oklahoma. What did you watch? Like, have you ever done Oklahoma. The production?
Bobby Bones
No, but I based my entire last album off of Oklahoma. The musical.
Lunchbox
Really?
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Lunchbox
How so? What do you mean you based it off of.
Bobby Bones
So I wanted to. I rewatched it with my husband. He had never seen musicals. Growing up and being in musical theater my whole life, I was like, we have. It was in 2022. So I was like, we have so much time. We have. We don't even know how much time we have. We have so much time, so. And I had the remote. So I. I turned on Oklahoma, and I was just seeing. I had a couple songs that had common with the. The movie. And I was like, do I have anything else that goes with this? And so I just started writing to it. And I don't know if it was like the bleach I was inhaling from the groceries I was bleaching, but I was like, I want to recreate Oklahoma. The musical and see what those songs would sound like today and in country music and in today's world. And so I started doing that and.
Lunchbox
Finished it, and the album's roadrunner, and the song is actually from that album. And so when you write the song, you don't have. I almost have to sing it to get it right. You ain't gotta die to be dead. When you write that, did it feel so, like, off what is generally listened to and consumed that it just might work, or was it just, we're gonna make this because it's fun and just place it in the album?
Bobby Bones
I think the second. The latter, I had that phrase in my head. Because I write some murder songs. I like to. There are terrible people in my life that I like to plot their murders occasionally within a country song. But my mom's always taught me to be the bigger person and just walk away from those people. And I'm like, okay, they're not. They don't have to die. They can just be dead to me. And so I just love that sentiment that my mom kind of taught me. And then I brought the song to Natalie Hemby, and I had that phrase. And we just actually finished another song, she and I. And I had to leave right afterwards. And I was like, I really want to write this next one with you, but I have to go. And I started playing, you ain't gotta die to be dead to me. And then she goes, you ain't gotta be six feet Deep. And I was like, like, ah, why are you saying this? I have to leave. But in a couple weeks, we finished it. But it was. It just was one of those organic songs that just kind of flew out of me. And I don't think I've ever really thought about commercial, like, success when it comes to making it. It just. What feels good to me.
Lunchbox
Are you feeling commercial success from it now?
Bobby Bones
Absolutely.
Lunchbox
Is it weird?
Bobby Bones
It's so. It's weird, but it's awesome to have, like, fiddle and a song that really, I feel like, represents me with humor and fiddle and just kind of this Oklahoma, rootsy vibe to it and really traditional country. I've feel proud that this is the one that's taking off.
Lunchbox
What went viral. Was it a video that you did? Was it. It wasn't because I saw you doing it at the Opry, but I think that was a product of, like, what was the first video that went viral of this song?
Bobby Bones
So Avery Anna started making a couple videos because she. She and I are in the Opry next stage, class of 2025 together.
Lunchbox
Is she blonde?
Bobby Bones
Yes.
Lunchbox
Singing in the bathtub. And she got her. Yeah, yeah. So her first thing was singing really good, but in the bathtub. Like, that's how. Okay, got it.
Bobby Bones
Yes. So. And then she started making tiktoks, and it kind of saw. She, like, created a trend, almost kind of like a prompt in the TikTok. And so I started playing into it. I saw a little spike on Spotify. I'm like, okay, cool. And then Ella posted her version, which is like, at like, 9.
Lunchbox
Is that what you know from.
Amy
Yeah, that's the first time I saw it. She. Ella was cooking, and she's in front of a pot. Yeah. And you know, you're like, oh, what message is she sending? And it was so much so I thought. I didn't know it was your song at that time, Caitlin. I thought, oh, is this Ella's next song?
Lunchbox
Because it was the spoken word part that she was doing.
Amy
Yeah, yeah. And. And who did she write it about?
Lunchbox
Right.
Bobby Bones
So she was quite literally stirring the.
Amy
Pot when she did that 100. She knew what she was doing.
Bobby Bones
I don't know. She kind of acts like she doesn't. Didn't know what she was like, I was just making pasta.
Lunchbox
I'm like, yeah, right.
Amy
Well, hey, good for her.
Bobby Bones
Whatever works. Just include me.
Amy
Yes. And then it was like, two days later, then, Bobby, you brought the song. And then just. And then now I can't stop singing it.
Lunchbox
Same. And I watched your Opry performance because I follow the Opry and I play the Opry a bunch doing comedy. And I was like, man, I love this song. And that's when I came on and just started playing it. And it's really cool because now I don't know if it's because I'm on the algorithm or because it's just blowing up, but it's all the time. Somebody's doing the spoken part into the chorus. I feel like that's the clip.
Bobby Bones
Even Honey Boo Boo's sister did it yesterday.
Lunchbox
Really?
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Lunchbox
So it's still happening. You're still seeing new people?
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Lunchbox
That's so cool.
Amy
Honey Boo Boo sister.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, right?
Amy
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
I was her. I was Honey Boo Boo for Halloween one year. Really like this. It's really coming full circle for me right now.
Lunchbox
Isn't it weird? That's the. That's kind of what it's taken to shine light on what you've been doing. Like, it's a viral video of a spoken word from an artist that actually is able to shine the spotlight on, like, what you're all about musically. Like, that's what it took.
Bobby Bones
That.
Lunchbox
It's wild.
Bobby Bones
I'm cool with it, of course. Just happy to be included in the Tick Tock world because I'm. I love Tick tock. I'm on it all the time.
Lunchbox
Yeah, me too.
Bobby Bones
But it also feel. It feels good to have someone else start the prompt. Like, Avery making the. Making the trend happen. Ella making it huge. I'm not, like, begging people to make the song. And every time I open my phone, there's women, you know that are peers and friends that are making these videos, and I haven't had to ask them to. And it's with. When you're trying to promote a song, you're like, kind of begging people to, like, do it for you. And I didn't have to. And it was. It just feels really good that it happens so organically. And it's a song that, like, is me. If I had one song to play before I died, it'd be that one.
Lunchbox
Are people more. More people coming to shows because of the songs, or have you been able to play shows at all?
Bobby Bones
I've been touring. I just never stopped touring. So it's. I. What I have noticed. I. Right after the first couple weeks, I had a couple shows with Wyatt Flores. And I mean, whenever I'm opening gigs like that, maybe a quarter. Maybe half of the audience might know. Know my music or my name. But that was the first time that by the first chorus, I start seeing phones pop up, like, a whole wall of it. And so that was really cool. And they're normally. Before the song on Tick Tock popped off, it was like they were kind of singing and giggling by the end and kind of singing along, but by the first chorus, they're roaring it, and that's just such a cool feeling.
Lunchbox
That's so cool.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Lunchbox
When did you play guitar for the first time?
Bobby Bones
When I was 15.
Lunchbox
Why did you gravitate to a guitar?
Bobby Bones
I saw women like Taylor Swift, Miranda Lambert, the Chicks, the Wreckers, playing their own instruments and writing their own songs and seeing them on stage. I've always been a performer, but when I saw them doing that and writing songs that weren't necessarily, like, fun, they were just, like, about real life stuff. I saw that and was like, I want to be that. Whatever that is. I can be that.
Lunchbox
When did you move to Nashville?
Bobby Bones
I started coming here in probably 2017, 2018, taking trips for writing things. But I moved fully bought a house in 2021.
Lunchbox
Wow. Right? Like, was it before? Yeah, pre. Middle.
Bobby Bones
Post. Covid post. Yeah.
Amy
It happened 2020, but 2021, we were still like. I guess we were trying to figure out, what is this new post?
Lunchbox
Kind of like house prices were up high then.
Amy
2020, 2021, you buy. And then it was sort of after that. Then if you boug during that time, and then you got to sell.
Lunchbox
Oh, is that what it was? Yeah. I don't know. We got lucky what year we are now. I know you have your guitar.
Bobby Bones
Yes, I do.
Lunchbox
Would you mind playing it for us?
Bobby Bones
I would love to.
Lunchbox
Okay, so everybody listening. This is Kaitlyn Butts. And follow her on Instagram aitlinbutz. And this is the song that I love and I hope ends up being a massive, massive song for years and years. And I hope it's so massive she gets tired of playing it. That's what I hope. That's always the goal. Here she is, Kaitlyn Butts. Oh, I'm sorry we can't post the live performance on the podcast, but if you go to our YouTube page, you can watch it there or maybe listen live. Okay. All right, now back to the podcast. Oh, come on.
Amy
So good.
Lunchbox
That's so fun. I love how you just commit.
Bobby Bones
I commit to the bit.
Lunchbox
You just commit. I love it. I'm rooting for you so hard. Your husband's also famous.
Bobby Bones
Yes, he is.
Lunchbox
Yeah. So it's a musical household.
Bobby Bones
It is.
Lunchbox
He's in Flatland. Calvary.
Bobby Bones
He is.
Lunchbox
And they've been Blowing up.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Lunchbox
Like, that's. It's. That's so cool.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, we met. We met in the studio singing together.
Lunchbox
How. So how did. How'd that happen?
Bobby Bones
He had heard my song on the radio driving through Fort Worth, and he had this really, really sad song that his friend was like, that song is too sad. It's so sad that it's depressing. You should have a female voice on this. And my name's kind of hard to forget. And he heard about that, or he remembered the person that he heard on the radio, and that was me. And so we met in the studio singing A Life Where We Work out. And now that song's gold. It has 100 million streams on Spotify, and it's pretty. Pretty awesome. Bought our house.
Amy
Well, so how did he find you?
Bobby Bones
He heard my song on the radio.
Amy
Well, yeah, but I mean, so he remembered. Oh, Caleb Buck said.
Caitlin Butts
Did he.
Bobby Bones
Like, he knew that I was on tour with one of his friends, Texas, a real close. Texas is super close knit. I was on tour with his friend Dalton Domino at some point, and he called him to make sure that I was, like, cool and not crazy. And he found out one of those things was true. But I.
Amy
Which part?
Bobby Bones
You'll never know. And. And so then he found out that I was cool and asked me to come sing on the song in the studio.
Mike D
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Slid in my DMs. Pretty much fun.
Lunchbox
Yeah, that's pretty cool. Yeah, that's cool. I think this is the song of the summer.
Bobby Bones
Thank you.
Lunchbox
I've declared a song of summer.
Bobby Bones
Thank you.
Lunchbox
That means nothing. Y' all's no water whatsoever.
Bobby Bones
But I declare you're so obsessed and I love it.
Lunchbox
Yeah, I am. And I'd never met you. And people were like, is she a friend of yours that you're. I'm like, I don't even know her. So until today, we'd never met each other. But I am a fan. Thank you. And, like, I love how you just approach music, and I love that you commit to it. And even here, there's one, two, three, there's five of us in the room. There could have been 50,000. You would. You committed the same way. And so super cool. I'm so glad you came in.
Bobby Bones
Well, I found out that I have had pneumonia, so that's why I haven't been. Yeah. And I don't ever get sick either. But this song and the busy. The things that have happened because of the song. We've got labels reaching out. We've got opportunities. I've never had before, and it's really running me a little thin. And that, you know, turns into, you know, taking care of yourself. But that's the benefit of it all.
Lunchbox
I love that. Pneumonia for you then. I hate pneumonia, but I love why you got it.
Amy
Also, just get it out of the way now.
Bobby Bones
I mean, I've just been all over the place. I've been. I shot a music video in LA last week. We went to New York for meetings. We've been doing them every single day. Like, I've just been running myself ragged and so. But this is. This is the one thing where I was like, I will not let this go another day without going into Bobby bones, because this is so important.
Lunchbox
Well, thank you so much. A massive fan. I'm looking forward to supporting you for a long time.
Bobby Bones
Thank you.
Lunchbox
And you guys. So you can support Caitlyn. First of all, follow her on socials. Caitlyn with a K. And then buy.
Bobby Bones
Merch and butts like your butt and.
Lunchbox
But butts like your butt.
Bobby Bones
There you go.
Amy
Yeah. Like, are you related to Heb?
Bobby Bones
I wish I'd be such a millionaire.
Amy
Herbert e. Butts, man.
Lunchbox
H.B. did you have HBS, Tulsa.
Amy
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
I am looking for a new dad, so if he needs.
Lunchbox
Is the dad stuff true?
Bobby Bones
Oh, yeah.
Lunchbox
Oh, it is.
Bobby Bones
Oh, yeah. Oh, I mean, no. For legal reasons.
Lunchbox
Yeah, of course. No, in the story that you write.
Bobby Bones
I love to storytell.
Lunchbox
Yes. In your story, the dad stuff's true, huh?
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Lunchbox
In the story, does the dad ever reach out and be like, why are you singing about me?
Bobby Bones
He likes to send cease and desists. So.
Lunchbox
Man, that's a weird story, huh?
Amy
Oh, yeah.
Lunchbox
That sucks.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. But you know what you get?
Amy
That's the next one.
Bobby Bones
You cope with humor. You cope with fun.
Lunchbox
Amen, Katelyn Butts. Amen, Katelyn Butts.
Amy
Well, imagine that's too. Also, like, a more serious side of the song is. Yes. It's so humorous and. But I would imagine a lot of people, when they're driving along singing it, like, sometimes it may hit them of like, huh, wait a second. I can create a boundary.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. And I mean, I think that this song gives people power to. To do that and establish that they won't accept certain kinds of treatment. And you could. You don't have to have closure. You don't have to have an apology. You can just be indifferent and just leave.
Amy
It helps them, like, just release it.
Bobby Bones
You should cut your narcissist, your local narcissist off.
Lunchbox
All right, lunchbox, gotta go, gotta go. Caitlin really? Thank you. You're awesome. I hate that you got sick, but it's so cool that you're getting all these opportunities. You deserve them. And hopefully we will see you again soon. There she is. Kaitlyn Butts, everybody. Nice dress, Lunchbox. Give me something.
Eddie
Oh, man. I'm gonna tell you what. My kids might go pro and fishing. I have never seen little kids catch that many fish in my life.
Lunchbox
Stock pond?
Eddie
Nah, lake.
Lunchbox
Oh, cool.
Ray
Who taught him?
Lunchbox
Because now.
Ray
You didn't teach them.
Eddie
No, literally teach them. We were just putting worms on hooks and they were catching fish.
Lunchbox
Like purse jargon pretty much.
Eddie
They were catching catfish.
Lunchbox
Carp.
Eddie
I mean, it was crazy carp, yes. Really big old suckers, too. I'm talking. Some of them were big fish. And I mean, I could not believe. These kids were so focused and they were so dedicated. Every morning I thought, vacation, we're going to sleep in. Every morning, 7am they're tapping me and my dad. Can we go fishing? Can we go fishing? Oh, my. We fished for hours. And they caught so many fish.
Lunchbox
So I'm assuming they didn't use bob. They did not use bobbers.
Eddie
They did.
Lunchbox
They did.
Ray
Because go up there and catfish.
Lunchbox
So carp and catfish are mostly bottom dwellers. Yeah. But yeah, no, I guess it was so wild.
Eddie
I mean, we've gone to this lake for years and I mean, maybe catch one, two fish they were catching.
Lunchbox
That's awesome.
Amy
Well, then maybe you need to enter them in some fishing competitions and you.
Ray
Need to go take them fishing more.
Eddie
Yeah, probably that too. And I mean, it'd be pouring rain and they would just stand out there and fish. Like guys, you can come in.
Lunchbox
You're catching fish, though, because it's so rare to have one of those days. It's like a great day playing golf. You're just on. If it's one of those days catching fish, you will go out in the rain because it's so rare to have those type two or three days that are just like money. They're just jerking them out. You guys cook them? No, don't. My back.
Eddie
Catch and release.
Lunchbox
Atta boy.
Ray
Yeah, catch and release catfish, though. Good eating.
Lunchbox
I know sometimes.
Eddie
And then.
Ray
And then catfish.
Eddie
But I did teach my. We taught the boys that they could kiss the fish on the lips.
Amy
I kissed the stingray. Seven years of good luck.
Lunchbox
I think they'll just tell any American anything over there.
Eddie
Yeah, sure, sure.
Ray
Yeah, do that.
Lunchbox
Yeah. Hey, 10 years if you have sex with it. Okay.
Amy
No, it's seven years if you kiss an adult. One and four. 14 years if you kissed a baby wife.
Ray
Is that prison sentence?
Lunchbox
What the heck show. You went to the Cayman Islands and.
Amy
I held a pregnant one.
Eddie
I mean, look at that big ol.
Ray
That's a big. That's a big fish, Eddie. Vacation. Yeah. So we did, you know, Zion national park and all that, but we surprised our kids with a Disney trip. Just one day at Disney in Anaheim and California or whatever. And I like Disney. Love Disney. It's a lot of fun. But, like, there's something they do there that's just so weird to me. Like, I'm an adult. I'm 46 years old, and I walk up to Mickey. Mickey, the character's out there. He's taking pictures. And so my son wants to see Mickey. So I go up and they're walking away and ask the guy, like, hey, real quick, sir, can my son get a picture with Mickey? And he goes, oh, I'm sorry, he can't. Mickey's got to go meet Pluto because Pluto's his dog, and he's got to go back where Minnie and everyone is. I'm like, Dude, I'm 46 years old. Like, my son's not even here. Like, why are you talking to me like this? And they do that all the time. Another one. Mr. Incredible. Like, oh, he's with Jack. Jack right now. He can't come out right now. I'm like, dude, stop it.
Amy
Like, what do you want him to do?
Bobby Bones
Be like, dude, he's got to go on a break.
Ray
Dude, Mickey's got to go.
Lunchbox
What if a kid hears them talking to you?
Ray
It was just me and the guy. Like, my kids weren't even there. It was just us two. And even, like, there's a Star wars ride, and you get out of the ride, and apparently in the storyline, you get captured by the enemy or whatever. And they, like, pushed me with a gun, said, you're a prisoner. I'm like, whoa, dude. Like. Like, relax.
Eddie
You know why they do that?
Lunchbox
I think everybody's treated the same.
Eddie
You know why they do that? Because you see those loser adults that go. And they have, like, the Mickey ears on and stuff, and it's like, they're all about it. And so they. They don't know if you're one of.
Lunchbox
Those weirdos or it could be that there are special needs adults that also want to have.
Amy
I think it's just they're required to stay in character no matter what.
Lunchbox
I agree with that, too, but I'm trying to give them other reasons. What you say special needs adults.
Ray
So, like, they thought I Was special.
Lunchbox
No, I'm saying they just generally do it to everybody.
Ray
Okay.
Lunchbox
That's why they don't. They don't want to discriminate. And if someone's there who's special, but.
Ray
You don't need to tell anyone the story that he's going to.
Lunchbox
I'd go 70, 30 on you.
Ray
No, no, man. I. I obviously was there with my kids. I'm like, hey, can my son take a picture with Mickey? It's just weird. Like, more and more I go, I love Disney. Don't get me wrong. But the more and more I go, I was like, this is kind of weird a little bit.
Lunchbox
It.
Ray
They're little rules that they have for everyone. It's kind of weird.
Lunchbox
Yeah. I'm sorry that happened, buddy. That's okay.
Ray
We'll probably go back anyway.
Lunchbox
Yeah, Disney's cool. I. I went once and was with Steven Tyler.
Ray
It's crazy, just. You and Steven Tyler went to Disney?
Lunchbox
Well, no, not. We didn't go together.
Ray
Like, why have I not heard this story?
Lunchbox
The very quick version is I was at Disneyland, which is where you were. Yeah. California Disney World. Disneyland's California. Correct. And I was there and I had a day off shooting American Idol since I worked for Disney. Disney owns ABC and American Idol. They were like, go. You can have the. You go underground, do all the cutting and have a. Whatever.
Ray
What do you mean underground? There's an underground well.
Lunchbox
There's like places you can go to get you around.
Eddie
There's tunnels.
Lunchbox
That's not so much tunnel, but there are places you can go that's faster than the fast pass. But they let. It's like the celebrity. Listen, I must have been the least famous celebrity that ever got to use this. So I'm there and I got a person and they're walking. I'm walking next to somebody that also has a person and he, wow, it's Steven Tyler. And I was like. I was like, steven Tyler, what's up? And he was like, hey. He was so nice. He didn't put it together that we had met at first. And then I said, hey, man, we've met before on Bobby Bones. He goes, oh, Nashville. Or whatever he did. He was so nice. He was so nice. I saw him, by the way, sing at Ozzy Osbourne's final concert this past weekend.
Ray
Is that his final, final concert?
Lunchbox
Yeah. He's struggling. Dang. I hear. I. Sometimes I'll see clips of the Osbournes podcast and Sharon's like, you know, Jack? And what we do is back in the Day and Ozzy be like. And Sharon's like, yes, Ozzy, you can go have some licorice. And you're like, he didn't say anything. Think that's not what.
Ray
What, Like Chewbacca?
Lunchbox
He has. No. Yeah, yeah. It sucks because he's sick and s. And old. And I watched his final concert. He was sitting in a chair the whole time, and he actually sounded pretty good singing. You see any of it, Mike? Yeah, I thought he sounded good. It was kind of sad where you saw he wanted to stand up a little bit. Like, he was getting into it. It was really emotional.
Eddie
So he's sick.
Lunchbox
He has, like. Does he have dementia? That's what I thought. Oh, I'm not sure what he has. We can look it up.
Eddie
Oh, man. Because, I mean, when he used to have. They used to have the Osborne TV show, I thought he sounded terrible. You couldn't understand what he was saying. So for him to. You say you couldn't understand him on the podcast. I can't imagine how much different it could be because he'd be on the show.
Lunchbox
Yeah.
Amy
Gosh, the dementia stuff is so crazy. My friend Jill, who I was at the Cayman's with, her parents were there and her dad has it, and he would forget. He would tell you a story. So he'd say it over and over. But then, like, one time we were at dinner and there was a question about the bill and the numbers, and he was like, 267. Like, he defeated. Like, it was so crazy to watch his brain be able to. And everyone was like, Jill was like, dad, look at you. You got it. And he just kind of shrugged his shoulders. He's like, yeah, no problem. Because he's aware that he also has dementia.
Lunchbox
That's like, you a tasting ketchup skill.
Amy
I'll always be able to do that, no matter what.
Lunchbox
Amy's like, Heinz Organic 57, you're 103. We don't know anything else you're saying.
Amy
I know. It just made me think about how wild our brains are.
Ray
Well, it's like Glenn Campbell. I was seeing something on him. He had had dementia, but he could still play guitar.
Lunchbox
You go on stage and perform. Yeah. And on stage, he kind of was like. Was very much with it, as opposed to when he wasn't. When he was sick. My point about Steven Tyler was that he was. He sounded awesome. And he. They stopped singing. He stopped singing because he, like, injured his voice. And he. He did walk this way. It was freaking awesome. And, yeah, Ozzy actually sounded pretty good. When he was singing. But yeah, he was in a chair. Like a big throne type. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, before we go, I'm gonna play a couple voicemails. Ray, hit me with number one, please. Yo, what's wrong with people? What's out with people? So my sister works at Cracker barrel, and on July 4th, they were doing a 17 top and they left 12 tip. What's wrong with people? Yeah. That sucks.
Amy
That's terrible.
Lunchbox
That's terrible. What's wrong with people?
Ray
What's wrong with people?
Lunchbox
Yeah, it sucks. I didn't say anything about my vacation. I didn't. We didn't leave. We stayed home. A couple things, though. I tried to find the perfect hot dog during vacation. Don't go very well. I ordered it from this one place and it was called, like, Hot Dog Palooza or something. Man, the pictures look good. It's one of those ghost restaurants on Ubereats. It's not a real restaurant. It's just like a gas station that names their hot dogs like a restaurant and you buy it. Terrible. The one place we wanted to go to that had new. Had good hot dogs that I would get. Usually they were out of hot dogs. And finally I went to something called Hot Dog Daddy Hot Dottie.
Mike D
Daddy's Dogs.
Lunchbox
It was pretty good. Yeah, I finally had that last night.
Amy
Daddy's dogs.
Lunchbox
So Daddy's dog is pretty good.
Ray
Why were you trying to find the best hot dog? Like just in the mood culture.
Lunchbox
I've been eating hot dogs a little bit because it's one place. Good point. Yeah.
Ray
Your culture.
Lunchbox
German. Yeah.
Eddie
Those daddy's dogs are huge.
Lunchbox
Yeah, but it wasn't huge.
Eddie
You didn't get the bullet.
Lunchbox
It was. It was pretty big, but it wasn't like, they're that big.
Eddie
Where I come from, they're big.
Amy
They're bigger. Yeah.
Eddie
Where I come from, not normal sized hot dogs.
Lunchbox
So did that. I read a book called Project Hail Mary.
Amy
Yes. I saw you read that. And I was like, oh, my God. Yeah, a while back. And awesome.
Ray
It's a football book.
Amy
The first book.
Lunchbox
No, no, it's a space. Oh.
Amy
That's what gave me what I think you've always had with, like, the aliens and stuff and like, how they're not communicating like us. They don't look like they could be.
Lunchbox
They microscopic. They could be 10,000ft tall. Our scale is based on what we've seen and been exposed to.
Amy
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Lunchbox
It's great. And I didn't realize it was gonna be a movie.
Amy
Is it gonna Be a movie.
Lunchbox
Ryan Gosling's in it. The preview's already out.
Amy
Oh, I haven't seen that. Yay.
Lunchbox
Yeah.
Ray
Oh, I love Ryan Gosling.
Lunchbox
Me too. Yeah.
Ray
Like, it's gotta be a good movie now.
Lunchbox
Yeah, the book's awesome. And I was just. Look, I started second book. It's not very good yet. I've read 100 pages. I'm not into it.
Amy
Oh, wait, was that one Artemis or something? What's that one? What's the second one called?
Lunchbox
It has nothing to do with that. No, not the same writer. The same writer wrote the Martian.
Amy
Oh, yeah, Martian. Oh, I don't know. I tried to start something else related to that, and I couldn't finish it.
Lunchbox
I'm gonna tell you the book that I'm reading now because I'll just scroll through until something tickles me, which is why I read Project Hail Mary, and I was like, oh, that sounds so good. Because he's like a school teacher who. They needed to go into space. That's all I'll say for now. But there's a pre. Ryan. Ryan. No, Ryan Gosling. I say Gosling or Reynolds.
Ray
You said Gosling.
Lunchbox
Yeah, Gosling.
Amy
Yeah.
Lunchbox
Look at it. Look, the movie preview looks awesome. I'm reading something called Life After Life. Do you believe in Life After Life now? It's by Kate Atkinson, and the whole book is. Apparently, she is born and then she dies, but she comes back and lived the same exact life, but she gets to make different choices.
Ray
That's cool.
Lunchbox
And I'm 100 pages in, and I'm just not feeling it. But it's. You never should follow a book that was awesome. With any book at all, you got to give it some sort of. You got to let your palate cleanse. Or you can pair it. So I needed, like, a rebound boyfriend, and I didn't get one. I went right for it.
Ray
Do you ever read a book based on just the title and the picture? Why are you looking at me like.
Lunchbox
The title and the picture?
Ray
Do you read the back and everything? The synopsis?
Lunchbox
I always read the synopsis.
Eddie
Do you always go check ratings?
Lunchbox
I'll do Goodreads. I'll go to Goodreads and see what the review is there.
Amy
I love when they say on the book, new York Times bestseller.
Lunchbox
Yeah, I get two of those right here. I read those and they say that.
Amy
I know, I know. But sometimes they'll be like, it's. This is by a New York Times bestselling author. Selling author. And I'm like, well, with this now you're trying to rope a dope. Me?
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Lunchbox
Project Hail Mary, I very much recommend.
Amy
Yeah, it's good. I second that.
Lunchbox
Yeah. So, Eddie, I know you're not gonna read. You wouldn't even read the book. 20 pages. So I don't recommend it to you. Probably won't read it. Meringue Kraut.
Ray
I'll be real with you.
Lunchbox
Probably won't. Hearing crap.
Amy
But if the movie's coming, you should watch. Read the book before you watch the movie.
Ray
Oh, no, I'll definitely watch the movie.
Amy
I know, but sometimes it's fun if you just like. Mike D's wife told me the. The show that I watched, We Were Liars. I guess that was a book. And now I'm bummed that I didn't read the book before, but she told me there's a prequel, so now I'm gonna read that. And she said that might be season two.
Lunchbox
Yeah, there you go. Yeah.
Amy
I need stuff to read, guys. I want to read more.
Lunchbox
I don't force reading on myself anymore. I used to. Or I was like, I must read something at all times. Times I don't, because then I don't enjoy it as much. If I come across something and I'm so motivated, I'll read. I read that book. It's like 600 pages in two and a half days. Because I just was like, I got nothing to do. I'm just gonna read. But if I don't.
Eddie
You ran a 600 page book in two days?
Lunchbox
2 and a half days, to be fair.
Ray
Goodwill hunting dude.
Eddie
No, get outside.
Amy
He was outside. He probably read outside.
Lunchbox
I did. I even went to the pool with my wife for a little bit. I never do that.
Ray
Oh, that's cool.
Lunchbox
And I raw dog it. No sunscreen.
Eddie
Oh, I thought you said that's good, though.
Amy
No, only for 30 minutes. Short amount of time.
Lunchbox
No.
Ray
I saw a guy on Tick Tock saying, don't wear sunscreen.
Lunchbox
Same guy that ate the meat and got real. All right, we gotta go. All right, thank you, everybody. We'll see you tomorrow. Bye.
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Podcast Summary: The Bobby Bones Show
Episode: MON PT 2: Bobby Questions Morgan Going On Vacation With Her Boyfriend And Her Dog + Amy Smuggled A Child Into Another Country + Kaitlin Butts On Murder Ballads And Going Viral Without Trying
Release Date: July 7, 2025
1. Vacation Dynamics: Morgan, Her Boyfriend, and Their Dog
In this segment, Bobby Bones engages with Morgan and her friends as they recount their recent vacation experiences. The primary focus revolves around Morgan's decision to embark on a road trip with her boyfriend and her dog, highlighting the dynamics and challenges that come with traveling as a trio.
Balancing Relationships and Pets:
Lunchbox raises concerns about the boyfriend accommodating the dog during the trip, questioning, "How does he feel about your dog being everywhere with you all the time?" ([05:03]').
Mike D responds, "He loves animals as much as I do," emphasizing the compatibility and mutual affection for pets within the relationship ([05:11]).
Travel Adjustments:
The conversation delves into how the inclusion of a pet affects travel plans, with Lunchbox humorously contemplating the logistics of bringing a pet on every outing: "Cause you can't go in certain places. Cause the dog. Right?" ([05:46]).
Emotional Connectivity:
Amy adds a heartfelt perspective by mentioning that Morgan's dog is a therapy dog, enhancing the emotional bonds between the couple and their pet: "It's a trained, licensed therapist." ([07:47]).
Notable Quote:
"You have a long list of things to deal with." – Lunchbox ([03:09])
2. Amy's International Adventure: Smuggling a Child into Another Country
Amy shares a personal and eye-opening story about inadvertently attempting to bring a child into another country without the necessary legal documentation. This narrative underscores the complexities and importance of understanding international travel regulations, especially concerning minors.
Unexpected Challenges:
Amy recounts, "I had no idea that if you are, you have another child traveling with you that you're supposed to have, like this consent form from the kid's parents that's even notarized." ([19:25])
She describes experiences at the Cayman Islands' customs: "They were questioning me... I had never been either." ([19:30])
Legal Implications and Relief:
The severity of the situation is evident when Amy discusses the potential consequences: "If you are trying to bring this child into the country, no, there's no... you have to go home, take her back." ([21:31])
Her relief is palpable as she successfully navigates the predicament: "Tell your doctor right away... Visit dupixent.com or call 1-844-dupixent." ([21:41])
Cultural Insights:
The discussion extends to geographical clarifications about the Cayman Islands, emphasizing their size and location: "It's 22 miles long, the whole thing." ([22:44])
Notable Quote:
"I is very much a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control." – Morgan ([31:26])
3. Kaitlin Butts on Music and Viral Success
The episode features an in-depth interview with country artist Kaitlin Butts, who delves into her creative process, the inspiration behind her hit song, and the unexpected viral fame it garnered.
Creative Process and Musical Influences:
Kaitlin discusses how she integrated elements from the musical "Oklahoma," blending traditional country sounds with modern storytelling: "I based my entire last album off of Oklahoma. The musical." ([35:34])
Viral Phenomenon on TikTok:
She shares her excitement about her song "You Ain't Gotta Die to be Dead" going viral organically through TikTok trends, without any direct promotion: "It just feels really good that it happens so organically." ([39:22])
Collaborations and Personal Connections:
Kaitlin highlights her collaboration with her husband, Caleb Buck, and how their partnership has fueled her musical journey: "He had heard my song on the radio... Now that song's gold. It has 100 million streams on Spotify." ([44:05])
Impact of Viral Success on Live Performances:
Reflecting on her touring experiences, Kaitlin notes the immediate recognition and engagement from audiences familiar with her viral track: "By the first chorus, I start seeing phones pop up, like, a whole wall of it." ([37:57])
Notable Quote:
"You don't have to have closure. You don't have to have an apology. You can just be indifferent and just leave." – Kaitlin Butts ([47:18])
4. Community Interactions and Personal Anecdotes
Throughout the episode, the hosts and guests share personal stories, interact with each other, and respond to listener voicemails, adding a layer of relatability and humor to the conversation.
Encountering Celebrities:
Lunchbox narrates a humorous encounter with Steven Tyler at Disneyland, showcasing the unpredictability of celebrity runs: "I was there and I got a person and they're walking. I'm walking next to somebody that also has a person and he, wow, it's Steven Tyler." ([52:09])
Family Activities:
Eddie enthusiastically describes his children's successful fishing adventures during vacation, highlighting their unexpected skills: "And I mean, we fished for hours. And they caught so many fish." ([47:50])
Cultural Observations:
The hosts share their thoughts on Disney's strict character interactions, pondering the rationale behind treating all guests uniformly, including adults: "The only thing that I see that concerns because we're just talking, just bunch of friends here hanging out." ([51:07])
Notable Quote:
"I'm just saying you have to establish some kind of mystique sometimes, and it's ruined quite a bit sometimes, and that's okay." – Kaitlin Butts ([33:32])
Conclusion
This episode of The Bobby Bones Show masterfully blends personal anecdotes, heartfelt stories, and engaging interviews, offering listeners a diverse array of topics. From navigating the intricacies of traveling with a pet and uncovering unexpected challenges in international adventures to celebrating musical achievements and viral success, the hosts and guests provide both entertainment and insightful reflections. Notably, Kaitlin Butts' journey from crafting country ballads to achieving organic virality underscores the unpredictable nature of modern fame, while Amy's candid recounting of her international predicament serves as a poignant reminder of the importance of preparedness in global travels.
For those seeking relatable stories, musical inspiration, and a hearty dose of humor, this episode delivers a well-rounded and captivating listen.