MON PT2: Monday Morning Drama + Bobby's Favorite Band Counting Crows In-Studio + Anonymous Spill The Tea

Summary

The Bobby Bones Show – Episode Summary
Release Date: April 14, 2025
Title: MON PT2: Monday Morning Drama + Bobby's Favorite Band Counting Crows In-Studio + Anonymous Spill The Tea
Host: Bobby Bones
Author: Premiere Networks

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1. Opening Segments

The episode begins with standard promotional segments, including advertisements for the "Mind the Business Small Business Success Stories" podcast, St. Jude Children's Research Hospital, and the Top Shelf Country Cruise. These segments are briefed within the first six minutes but are omitted from the summary as per instructions.

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2. Voicemails and Initial Banter (02:09 - 03:12)

Bobby Bones transitions into the main content by sharing voicemails from listeners. The first notable voicemail is from Eric in Bismarck, North Dakota, sharing his appreciation for the show.

Eric (Voicemail):

"First time caller and I have been a listener since the day that I heard live on the radio opening the palette."

Bobby acknowledges Eric’s support and expresses gratitude, setting a warm and engaging tone for the episode.

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3. Interview with Michael B. Jordan (03:29 - 44:18)

Guest: Michael B. Jordan
Topics Covered:

a. Personal Journey and Sobriety (03:29 - 03:14)

Michael shares his personal journey, highlighting his one and a half years of sobriety and the importance of the show's community in his recovery.

Michael B. Jordan:

"I'm about a year and a half sober, and I don't know where I'd be without you all. You guys chemistry just makes me feel like I'm part of the family."

b. The Palette Conflict (03:14 - 07:21)

A humorous and candid discussion unfolds about a recurring issue referred to as "the palette," leading to playful tension among the hosts and guests.

c. Counting Crows Behind the Scenes (10:26 - 43:57)

Michael delves deep into his experience with Counting Crows, discussing songwriting, setlist variations, and the creative process behind their music.

Notable Quote:

"When you do a set list, how often does it change during a tour?"
Michael B. Jordan:
"Oh, every night. We adjust based on the mood and what we want to play."

He elaborates on how they incorporate new and old songs, mentioning fan favorites and the dynamics of live performances.

Songwriting and Content Creation:
Michael discusses the transition from handwritten lyrics to digital note-taking, emphasizing the convenience and challenges of modern content creation.

Notable Quote:

"With my phone, I can walk around when I'm working on a song, I can just type it into the notes. I have a lot of lyrics in my notes, but I still use the notebook for stuff, too." (19:14)

d. Television Appearances and Impact (30:54 - 37:36)

Michael recounts their pivotal appearance on Saturday Night Live (SNL), detailing the struggles and ultimate success that propelled Counting Crows into mainstream recognition.

Notable Quote:

"We had said no for a long time when they asked us, because we wanted to play our songs the way we wanted. It was a difficult week, fighting with them all week. But it was great. It made our career." (31:39)

e. Secret Tracks and Album Insights (37:36 - 41:22)

The conversation shifts to album production, discussing secret tracks like "Hard Candy" and the artistic decisions behind their inclusion.

Notable Quote:

"Sometimes it's just something I really like that doesn't work in the flow of the record. Like 'Kid Things' on 'Desert Life' just didn't feel like part of the record, but I really loved it." (38:16)

f. Touring and Creative Inspirations (40:54 - 44:18)

Michael shares insights into their touring life, inspirations from artists like Taylor Swift, and the complexities of putting together a live show.

Notable Quote:

"The visual presentations at that tour were brilliant. It's like making an entire movie, and it's three plus hours long. That combination really impressed me." (36:04)

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4. Conversation with Miles – Radio Career and Personal Life (48:36 - 70:57)

Guest: Miles
Topics Covered:

a. Early Career and Dubai Experience (48:36 - 57:05)

Miles discusses his upbringing in Scotland, his move to Dubai at 18 to pursue a career in radio, and the challenges he faced, including cultural adjustments and workplace conflicts.

Notable Quote:

"I was born in Scotland, grew up in England, and moved to Dubai for a radio internship. It was a unique experience, but I eventually got fired due to a personality conflict." (53:09)

b. Transition to Canada and Current Role (57:05 - 61:55)

After facing setbacks in Dubai and Gloucester, Miles navigates his way to Canada, securing a position as a national night show host for Pure Country, highlighting his growth and experiences in the radio industry.

Notable Quote:

"I always wanted to move to the US, but with visas being tough, Canada was the best option. Now, I'm the national night show host for Pure Country, covering 12 stations." (60:08)

c. Personal Milestones (61:55 - 70:57)

Miles shares personal milestones, including meeting and marrying his Canadian fiancée, Heather, in a heartfelt and humorous exchange with Bobby.

Notable Quote:

"We got engaged in May 2023 and are officially married. Our ceremony was in a park in Toronto before moving to Scotland for the official wedding." (64:30)

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5. Spill the Tea Segment (66:06 - 67:53)

An anonymous message targets Eddie for his plant-watering habits, leading to a lighthearted and comedic confrontation among the hosts and guests.

Anonymous Caller:

"Eddie brought us plants and thought, oh, what a great gift. But he continues to water it, and the water just leaks all over the floor."

Bobby Bones:

"Eddie, do better."

The segment emphasizes the playful camaraderie and teasing nature of the show’s environment.

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6. Final Banter and Closing (67:53 - 74:13)

The episode wraps up with ongoing jokes about plant maintenance, cleanliness in the studio, and future show plans. Promotional segments resume, including advertisements for BetterHelp, St. Jude, Petivity, and Roku Pro Series.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Michael B. Jordan on Social Media Challenges:
  "As you're older, you're not in touch with the same stuff that kids are. You don't realize that TikTok is really important." (15:22)

• Michael B. Jordan on Setlist Changes:
  "We adjust based on the mood and what we want to play." (11:30)

• Miles on Radio Industry Shifts:
  "I always wanted to move to the US, but with visas being tough, Canada was the best option." (60:08)

• Anonymous Caller on Eddie’s Plant Maintenance:
  "Eddie poured a bunch of water in it, and the water just comes out the bottom of the plant and leaks all over the floor." (66:40)

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Conclusion

This episode of The Bobby Bones Show offers a rich blend of engaging interviews, personal stories from Michael B. Jordan and Miles, and humorous interactions among the hosts. Listeners are treated to insightful discussions on songwriting, the evolution of radio, and the intricacies of live performances, all while enjoying the familiar banter that makes the show a daily favorite.

Transcript

[Bobby Bones]

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[Amy Brown]

Hey, it's Amy Brown. Join me in supporting St. Jude Children's Research Hospital for a chance to win a trip to meet Megan Maroney at the 2025 I Heart Country Festival in Austin, Texas on May 3rd. Hosted by Bobby Bones. We're gonna hook you up with tickets, flights, hotel, food credits and a meet and greet with Megan Maroney. Take action now to support St. Jude and help cure childhood cancer and you're going to be entered for a chance to win. Visit iheartcountrytrip.com to learn more.

[Bobby Bones]

Bobby Bones here with news on the top shelf. Country Cruise setting sail February 27 to March 6, 2026 it's not just a cruise, it's a country music experience at sea. An amazing lineup of performers. Well, we're going to be there. The Bobby Boncho I'm going to be there. Keith Urban, lee Bryce, Scotty McCreary, Parmalee, LeAnn Rimes. It doesn't end there. We'll also be stopping in stunning destinations along the way. Go to topshelfcountrycruise.com to book any available stateroom. Gotta hurry though. These spots are filling up fast on April 18th.

[Ryan Coogler]

Centers are coming From Oscar nominated filmmaker Ryan Coogler, director of Black Panther and Creed, starring Michael B. Jordan, comes the motion picture event of the year. Twin brothers Smoke and Stack, both played by Michael B. Jordan, return to their hometown for a fresh start, only to discover that an unspeakable evil is waiting to welcome them back. Don't miss the genre bending thrill ride. Shot with IMAX film cameras, Sinners arrive only in theaters on April 18th. Rated R under 17. Not admitted without parent.

[Bobby Bones]

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[Michael B. Jordan]

Heard live on the radio opening the.

[Bobby Bones]

First thing from the palette. Since that moment, I have went back and listened to every single episode that has been available.

[Michael B. Jordan]

I'm about a year and a half sober, and I don't know where I.

[Bobby Bones]

Would be without you all. You guys, chemistry just makes me feel like I'm part of the family. And I love you guys.

[Michael B. Jordan]

I don't know where I'd be without y'all.

[Bobby Bones]

Thanks, man. Congrats on a year and a half. And yeah, the palette, that's almost the Voldemort of this show. Almost where we do speak about it occasionally, but we know it will be trouble when we do. That's all. Yeah, but I just don't want to get into it now. I just don't want to get into it.

[Lunchbox]

No, let's not talk about it.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm not in the mood to get into it now, but go ahead.

[Eddie]

Can I just say I'm happy that the pallet was able to help in his journey?

[Bobby Bones]

No, no. Because the pallet has hurt our journey. He's made me start drinking. It's the opposite of him. I've never drank, but because the palette, we have not got our money back, I'm. Now I'll say it. I drink.

[Lunchbox]

Oh, you don't.

[Amy Brown]

Okay.

[Lunchbox]

It makes me so mad, though.

[Bobby Bones]

Me too.

[Eddie]

About what?

[Bobby Bones]

It pisses me off that we don't have our money. Yes.

[Amy Brown]

I've had to let it go. Y'all need to let.

[Lunchbox]

No, we're not letting it go.

[Bobby Bones]

Why? We don't talk about it. Yeah, but I'm moving.

[Eddie]

Hey, business people.

[Bobby Bones]

Not a business person.

[Eddie]

Where are our Pokemon cars? They're still saying we don't have any money for that. So you guys get. Don't get mad about that.

[Bobby Bones]

Stuff that we bought in that bit was stuff to hold and let it grow in value.

[Eddie]

Well, what do you think the stuff on the pallet's doing?

[Bobby Bones]

That stuff's not growing in value. It's a piece of rope.

[Eddie]

I know that. Sold. $100 bill.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. And then pay us. Give us our part of what we have.

[Eddie]

It's like when you start a note.

[Bobby Bones]

It'S not like it's here.

[Eddie]

No, no, Like.

[Bobby Bones]

Like Ray. Next voicemail.

[Michael B. Jordan]

Hi, guys.

[Amy Brown]

Okay, just saw that you hit 300,000 subscribers on YouTube. Curious as to if it counts since.

[Miles]

It was after the.

[Amy Brown]

Or if you're gonna let it go, let me know.

[Bobby Bones]

Not sure that question. I think there are some comments that we should have on this. We did hit, but it was. I gave it until the show ended, and then I gave another hour and a half, and we did not hit until. Even after we went off the podcast after that.

[Lunchbox]

But I think it was only like five minutes after that.

[Bobby Bones]

It was quick.

[Lunchbox]

Dang.

[Bobby Bones]

But I did give it an extra hour and a half because I really wanted to do it. So I saw that you had three, if it counts. So, no, nobody got paid out because nobody hit it in that. But I'm still going to pay somebody $1,000 or all three of you $1,000. Yes. If we hit 500,000 before September 1st. Or one person gets 3,500.

[Lunchbox]

If what?

[Bobby Bones]

If you decide to play a game.

[Lunchbox]

For it, I like it. But we'll get there first. Once we hit that number, we can decide that, but.

[Bobby Bones]

And now Lunchbox has a problem because he's tried to figure out a way to wiggle in to say he deserves $100, but go ahead.

[Eddie]

Yes, I would like to. On behalf of Eddie Morgan and myself, I would like to come into Bobby Bones courtroom and say that we actually did hit it by the end of the show. Because if you are living in Sacramento, California, the show was still on the air when we hit 300,000. So technically, the show was still on. The show was still going when we hit 300,000. And you said by the end of the show. And so my belief is the show was not over.

[Bobby Bones]

So by the end of the show, then that argument could be used because it's always streaming on one of the channels. The iHeart channels.

[Eddie]

I like that too.

[Bobby Bones]

It's always on demand. No, it was until the end of the show. As we do the show. When we ended the show, I still said, I will give you guys another hour and a half. And it still didn't hit. But I'm giving you guys the opportunity to make a lot more money with the neck. By the way, I don't make any money off this. This is money I'm just giving out of my own pocket.

[Eddie]

Eddie, we need sound.

[Bobby Bones]

Mm.

[Lunchbox]

See that?

[Bobby Bones]

Sorry, you mean we did this whole thing with no sound?

[Lunchbox]

Yeah, that's what Morgan is saying.

[Bobby Bones]

No way.

[Lunchbox]

Hold it.

[Amy Brown]

This isn't helping. Yalls.

[Bobby Bones]

Case.

[Lunchbox]

There it is.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, my. We've. This whole time, none of that went on. Did we at least get it for the podcast?

[Michael B. Jordan]

Yeah, we're recording over here.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah, we got.

[Bobby Bones]

It's just.

[Lunchbox]

Just a stream.

[Bobby Bones]

This isn't our first day over here. Oh, my God.

[Michael B. Jordan]

Stop it.

[Lunchbox]

You know, it's not my fault.

[Bobby Bones]

Lunchbox's fault.

[Lunchbox]

Sorry, dude. My computer updated over the weekend, so.

[Amy Brown]

It'S not your fault, but it is.

[Lunchbox]

It updated over the weekend and it restarts everything. So, like, I didn't see that. That wasn't on.

[Bobby Bones]

So you didn't see, but it wasn't your fault.

[Lunchbox]

But technically we were on air in the west coast.

[Bobby Bones]

No, that's not true. We're not on the air.

[Lunchbox]

Technically, it's the computer's fault, not mine. Yes. I'm sorry, dude. I didn't see it up.

[Bobby Bones]

But you just said it wasn't your fault, so why are you sorry?

[Lunchbox]

Well, because this computer, when it restarts, it, like, does.

[Bobby Bones]

I just want to do a quick lesson for everybody listening, just in general. If something's ever your fault, just say, that's on me. My fault. I'll get better. Sorry about that. And move on. Because that allows everybody to move on. It allows you to move on. It allows the people that are over you to move on everybody. When you say it's not my fault and obviously was your fault, all it does is extend the communication about whose fault it was and where. Either the lack of communication from you or the lack of. Or the inability of whatever program we're using to run.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

So now that it's extended a whole.

[Amy Brown]

Bunch more so and further infuriates your superior.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, it's just like it. Was it your fault? Was it your fault?

[Michael B. Jordan]

Yeah, I should.

[Lunchbox]

I should have seen that on there. My bad, man.

[Bobby Bones]

Just in general, in life, if that's it. Yeah, it sucks for a second, but it's like a pill, man. Didn't taste very good, but all right. Onward.

[Lunchbox]

You know what's stupid about this whole thing, though?

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. I would just move on.

[Michael B. Jordan]

No, no.

[Bobby Bones]

I would just let it go.

[Amy Brown]

But this is also a space where we get to talk things through.

[Eddie]

Yeah, go ahead, Eddie.

[Bobby Bones]

I like that.

[Amy Brown]

We owned it and we move on.

[Bobby Bones]

But then I owned it. But I think we do this, then we have to keep going on podcast, but cut our stream and start it over. Because anybody watching the beginning of that's going to see four minutes of silence and they're not going to watch the stream. I wouldn't.

[Lunchbox]

Or maybe they Just got on right.

[Bobby Bones]

Now, and it doesn't matter. It goes loaded up as a YouTube video, which you're trying to get more videos for. Therefore, why would anybody watch any of the content?

[Amy Brown]

All right, take it down.

[Eddie]

Yeah, well, we did a video on YouTube, and no one. I mean, Morgan, thought this was gonna get so many views and got 900 views.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, but you can't fight those.

[Amy Brown]

What was the video?

[Bobby Bones]

Hold on. Algorithms. You cannot predict. So I'm not gonna be on anybody for putting anything up.

[Eddie]

I'm just being funny. I was like. I looked at it, and I was like, man, I thought we were gonna have so many views the last night. I was like, dang it.

[Bobby Bones]

That was you being funny?

[Eddie]

I didn't say it was funny.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, so can we start the stream over but keep the podcast going?

[Lunchbox]

Let me ask Morgan.

[Michael B. Jordan]

I'm sure.

[Lunchbox]

I mean, yeah, you can do anything.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, start the stream over. Yeah, we're still recording over here.

[Eddie]

Raise it.

[Bobby Bones]

Apologize, and let me know where when it comes back on.

[Lunchbox]

And this is what I was gonna say.

[Bobby Bones]

No, Everybody just hush. Everybody hush.

[Eddie]

He's mad at me.

[Lunchbox]

I'm not mad at you.

[Bobby Bones]

Everybody. No. Everybody shush. Start the stream over. Let me know when we're back on, and then we will start again. But we won't start over. But from the start of that content on video, if you don't hook people in the first few seconds, nobody's gonna watch any of it. And you're running us with four minutes of silence. There's no way that thing would get over, like, 50 views. Now, people may turn on the Facebook stream because that is live or watch it live on YouTube, but if we want anybody to watch it as it's loaded, they're not going to. But these are the decisions you have to make in order to get more followers.

[Eddie]

I'm interested to see what Eddie was mad about.

[Bobby Bones]

I want to wait till the stream comes up. Are we working on it now?

[Lunchbox]

Yeah, Morgan's working on the back end.

[Bobby Bones]

It's a. Not a Morgan. Not Morgan's fault.

[Lunchbox]

No one's blaming Morgan.

[Michael B. Jordan]

She's getting you the key.

[Bobby Bones]

Thank you. And I'm looking. We'll get to it, but. Okay.

[Amy Brown]

You know what?

[Bobby Bones]

Why don't we just go to the Adam Duritz interview? Oh, yeah, it's ready to go. We'll come back on the other side of the Adam Durance interview.

[Amy Brown]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, so we'll just. We'll just shut it all down.

[Amy Brown]

But also, just so Eddie feels better, maybe because of everything we talked about somebody listening to that is going to mess up at work this week, and they're going to own it right away because of you. And it's going to be better. It's going to be better for them.

[Bobby Bones]

They're going to call it an Eddie.

[Lunchbox]

I pulled an Eddie.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, so let's do this. Let's go to Adam Duritz from Counting Crows, and we'll come back on the backside on the Bobby Bones Show. Now, Adam Duritz of Counting Crows. Adam, good to see you again, buddy.

[Michael B. Jordan]

Hey, now. I realized there's things going on in the head that I'm missing out on.

[Bobby Bones]

It was literally a voice just going. And now Adam Duras, Counting Crows. I mean, if you really wanted to hear that.

[Michael B. Jordan]

Did it sound cool?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, seven out of ten.

[Michael B. Jordan]

All right. Okay. It's cool.

[Bobby Bones]

I was.

[Michael B. Jordan]

As long as I get the idea. Now I feel like I've hit the stage. There's been a. Yeah, I'm here.

[Bobby Bones]

You're interested. Do you guys have an intro now when you come out? Like, how do you guys come out?

[Michael B. Jordan]

We usually play this song. It's. Lately it's been Stand by Sly and the Family, Stone, Lights go Down, Stand comes on. We come on about midway through the song.

[Bobby Bones]

So the song is playing, like, over the top, and you guys walk out.

[Michael B. Jordan]

Out in the hall, it comes out.

[Bobby Bones]

When you do a set list, how often does it change during a tour?

[Michael B. Jordan]

Oh, every night.

[Bobby Bones]

Is that part of your, you know. I don't know. Creative nightly task is to recreate the set list.

[Michael B. Jordan]

Yeah. Emmer who? He was here a second ago. He and I do it after dinner sometime.

[Bobby Bones]

Does that depend on the mood that you're in?

[Michael B. Jordan]

Yeah. Yeah. Just sort of. What do you want to play tonight? That way we're playing stuff we want to play.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you ever. Do one of you ever go, hey, maybe we haven't played this song in a while? We throw this in. Is there ever like, a battle?

[Michael B. Jordan]

No, it's usually like that. You know, somebody wants. It's. I mean, anybody in the band can say, hey, you know, I've been really dying to play this. And if we, you know, if it's. If we've been playing it, we just stick it in the set list. If we haven't been, we'll work it at soundcheck and then put it in the set list. Sometimes we need a few days to work on something. If we haven't played it for a decade or something, you know.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, you'll bring old songs back sometimes.

[Michael B. Jordan]

Yeah, because people like you know, we have so many records at this point and so many songs, and people, like, get to where they're dying to hear something, or someone's girlfriend is pretty insistent about something. My girlfriend really wanted us to play this song, Butterfly In Reverse, for a long time. And it was a song, even when it was released, we only played it once or twice. One of my friends checked on the. Whatever, the archive. We only played it once or twice, and we worked on it and put it in the set. And now it's been, like, every night for a few years. Everybody loved it so much that it's kind of stuck in there. But, yeah, you know, there's things you haven't played in a long time.

[Bobby Bones]

Are there any songs that you feel you have to play every night? Is there one song that stays in the thread the whole time?

[Michael B. Jordan]

A Long December does nothing now. I mean, I don't feel like there's anything I have to play every night because sometimes you just get tired of anything. There is. You get tired of it. Except for some reason, for me, A Long December, I never get tired of it. There's never been a night where I didn't want to play it. I don't know why that is. I have no idea. But I was kind of excited to play it.

[Bobby Bones]

Like an arrangement. Change up on that song, like playing it by yourself at a piano or the full band. Does that ever change, even though the thread as you play that song every night?

[Michael B. Jordan]

Yeah, I mean, we'll change little details of it. There's little, like, breakdowns that go into it for the last couple year and a half. I started. I just was. We went to see Taylor Swift and it was really great, and I really loved that song, the one. And so I started, like, backstage working on a version of it by myself, and then I just walked out on stage one night and played it and led it right into a long December. So it. The end of that song built and became the intro to A Long December. And I've been doing it that way for about a year now, and I'm really loving it. I don't know. It's such a great song, and it was a real cool surprise to then crash it into a long December and start that song from there. So I've been doing it that way, but I've done that with different songs. I remember doing it with Live Forever, that Oasis song. We were touring in England once, and I went and figured out how to play Love Forever and then just surprised everybody on stage with it one night.

[Bobby Bones]

With Cell Phones, too. It's got to be different, because if you're gonna go do Taylor, the one that's either gonna go super viral or it's not. It's gonna be kind of weird.

[Michael B. Jordan]

Well, it was kind of cool because at some point midway through the first verse, I always hear this scream from a bunch of girls. Like, it happens because it's not. It's not immediately recognizable as that song because I'm playing it pretty differently. It's kind of inside out. But at some point, like two thirds of the way through the third verse or the first verse, there's just a scream from a bunch of girls who realize what's going on. And then I don't know whether they're hitting their mom going, no, you don't understand, Mom.

[Bobby Bones]

How has content creation been for you with music? Because that's different for anybody that was, you know, playing in the 90s and 2000s. I have friends now that are struggling with. Man, I have to make content now to go with my music. How's that been for you and you guys?

[Michael B. Jordan]

Well, it's kind of a. I was really enthusiastic about social media when it first started. I was on the message boards at AOL in 96 when I realized, oh, here's a way to talk directly to fans. I don't have to go through the press or something. And then when Twitter came out, I really jumped on that. But the problem is you're not always at the forefront of something. You're patting yourself on the back for being on the message boards 10 years before social media, and then you're patting yourself on the back for building up Twitter. And you don't realize that Instagram is the next thing, or you don't. Or you finally get a hold of that. And, you know, as you're older, you're not in touch with the same stuff that kids are. And so you don't realize that TikTok is really important. You know, it's just inevitable that you fall behind because you're not keyed into the same, you know, zeitgeist as kids are. But, yeah, you just kind of adjust. You try to. I mean, I think at this point in my life, I'm always a little behind, which is okay. It's, you know, it's kind of fun to catch up sometimes.

[Bobby Bones]

Some of my friends are like, man, I hate singing into a phone. Like, they really have struggled with, like, singing in their songs into a phone to put it on TikTok. Was that ever. When you shot content, do you shoot it wider because you can shoot a video ish style, where it doesn't feel as ridiculous because it does feel kind of weird to put your phone up and sing right into it. How are you guys doing that?

[Michael B. Jordan]

Well, early on, I mean, I don't mind singing into my phone because I was doing it for voice memos. It was like, wow, I got a thing. I can record. I work on new songs. I can record and write them. That seemed like the coolest thing in the world to me. I didn't need a recording studio. I had my phone. And then I started doing, like, it was a little while to learn how to do all the stuff and learn to edit. You know, I had to go learn how to edit stuff, get the editing apps. And I was making cooking videos because I was bored during the pandemic. So I was making. I was, you know, teaching kind of cooking lessons on my Instagram. And then, you know, I watch a lot of it. I see people doing these clips of songs and how you only have to do a whole song. But clips of songs are really cool, and I kind of like watching them. So, you know, I wised up to doing that, but it took me till this record to wise up to doing that. It's not hard to do them, though, sometimes do them on my phone. Sometimes. We have a videographer who works with us. He'll come over and just film me doing stuff. Or he filmed when we were making the record. He was there with cameras. So, you know, lately we've been using clips of all of us from in studio that we filmed. And then I had him come over and shoot a bunch of clips of me just doing the vocals because they were a little bit. It wasn't as immediate, the clips from the side, away from the mic in the studio. So I wanted to cut a bunch of clips of just my face doing stuff. I called him up and said, I want to make videos out of these, but I don't want to just use the studio footage. I want to shoot stuff in front of a screen. And so we did that, and we've been putting those up for Spaceman and now for under the Aurora.

[Bobby Bones]

You mentioned voice notes. So what were you using before voice notes? Was it just a pad of paper all the. Was it notebook all the time?

[Michael B. Jordan]

Well, I mean, I always use these notebooks, but I also had. There was an app, it was just called, like, Recorder, but it was just an app that had really good compression on it that you just push record. So I could use it on my computer back then. And it was a really great. It was a better app than any I've found since then. It just sort of did it all for you. Had a great compression, a great EQ on it, and it was boneheaded. You just pushed Record and Play and it did great recordings. I did a whole record with that app at one point. Just called All My Bloody Valentine's. It was like Valentine's the week before Valentine's Day 10 years ago, whenever it was. And I just said, I'm gonna record a song. I'm gonna learn a cover a day and record a song a day for the next week leading up to Valentine's Day. And I just did seven songs and ended up putting it out and giving it away to all our fans.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you have any of your original handwritten lyrics to any of the old songs?

[Michael B. Jordan]

Oh, yeah. I've got all these lyric books. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

That just live somewhere in your house.

[Michael B. Jordan]

Yeah, there's like, piles of them. I've always written in these books, so I have these little ones. They're like spiral binders that are about that big. They're like, for school, you know. Notebooks. I used them when I was in college, too. I don't do it as much anymore. I find the notes function in my phone is really great because I just lay around. Also, we've all stopped writing, so writing's not as natural as it was. So with my phone, I can walk around when I'm working on a song, I can just walk around humming stuff to myself, and I just type it into the notes. I have a lot of lyrics in my notes, but I still use the notebook for stuff, too.

[Bobby Bones]

We were talking a little bit ago about how Gen Z doesn't know, has never written a handwritten letter. And my answer to that was, well, you know, our parents never churn butter, and I'm sure their generation ahead of them was like, I can't believe the kids now don't churn butter. So there are certain skills that you don't have to have, you know, as time goes by. I just feel though, if I use a, like, gps, I know how to get nowhere because I GPS everywhere. And if I write everything down into my phone, like I write a bunch of joke ideas into my phone constantly, but I don't remember stuff as well if I'm putting it in digitally. Does your mind remember the same digitally as it as handwritten?

[Michael B. Jordan]

No. I mean, I realized last night I was. I can't remember what. I was out to dinner last night and my girlfriend was giving her phone number to somebody like one of our friends. And I suddenly realized, oh, that's not cool. You don't know her number. I mean, I knew.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't know.

[Michael B. Jordan]

My wife no, like seven or eight numbers. She was saying it. I was in my head going, oh. And then the last two numbers I had wrong, I'm like, wow, you don't know your girlfriend's phone number.

[Bobby Bones]

I would be in trouble if I were being held hostage. I know nobody's phone number unless it were was from, like, I know my friend Evan's dad's number from when I was like, 12. Like, I can remember that one, but I don't know anybody's phone number now.

[Michael B. Jordan]

Being held hostage comes with a lot of other problems anyways, but first I.

[Bobby Bones]

Need to call somebody.

[Miles]

They're like.

[Bobby Bones]

They're like, we demand ransom. And I'm like, I don't know how to get a hold of anybody.

[Michael B. Jordan]

That's kind of the cops give you one call. I don't know about hostages. Sometimes they do, but what if they just don't like you?

[Bobby Bones]

Then they will not want a ransom. And you're not hostage. You're just dead. Then you're just dead.

[Michael B. Jordan]

Yeah. There's a lot of problems of the hostage situation above and beyond the phones, but I get your point.

[Bobby Bones]

Did you watch White Lotus last night by accident?

[Michael B. Jordan]

I did. I did.

[Bobby Bones]

You did?

[Lunchbox]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Lunchbox]

No, I'm not done yet.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Michael B. Jordan]

Then I was a little disappointed.

[Bobby Bones]

We're not giving any answers, not saying anything about it, but a lot of people. So I watch the whole thing, right. My wife had already watched all of it, and I just wanted to watch the finale with her. So I did like seven episodes this past weekend just to totally catch up. And I was told by a lot of people season three was pretty slow. I felt season three, the people in it. And again, no spoilers. Not to be as gross as seasons one and two, Just generally, you know.

[Michael B. Jordan]

It'S a weird thing. Season one had like six episodes, and season two had seven, and season three had eight. And I thought seven, six would have been great for all of them. They'd just be. He's a really, really, really good writer. And somehow expanding it just kind of. I don't want to rip out. It's such a good show. I had never watched it. And then this year, I never watched it. My girlfriend talked me into watching it, and we watched the first season, like, binged it. Second season, binged it. Third season, got through two episodes, and I was like, what? And she said, oh, no, That's. That's where we're up to right now. Why are we watching it? You know, I like to binge everything, you know, and she. So then I've been doing it every week. I'm not sure whether it's distorting how it feels to me because I have to wait for it. It felt really padded.

[Bobby Bones]

I did all binge all three seasons, and I finally finished right before the finale. So my feeling was, well, yeah, season three, people didn't feel as gross. Felt pretty good about it.

[Michael B. Jordan]

That's cool.

[Bobby Bones]

But there was. I never felt the need to get back to it, but I did enjoy it while it was on. It was one of those weird slow burn shows.

[Michael B. Jordan]

I loved the other seasons. I just, like. I kind of felt like. Also I felt there was a lot of padding this season. But I was also thinking, well, I bet the ending will be great, you know, there. Because we're gonna get there finally.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, well, don't worry, everybody. We're not gonna say anything about it. We're not gonna say it. No, no, no spoiling there. What else do you guys watch?

[Michael B. Jordan]

Did you watch Severance Watch the first season? And I thought that was incredible.

[Bobby Bones]

One of my favorite seasons ever of any show.

[Michael B. Jordan]

Yeah, we're gonna. I think we're gonna watch the second season after this. Um, we just watched. Is it Black Doves that. Kieran. It's awesome. That was great.

[Bobby Bones]

Freaking awesome. I'd be a black dove. I'd be good at that.

[Michael B. Jordan]

Yeah, you would.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I'd be.

[Michael B. Jordan]

As long as you're not held hostage.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I just need to know a phone number if I'm held hostage. How does writing songs now compare to writing songs? 20 years ago, you know, we talked about the difference in digitally or writing it with a hand. But, like, do you feel the need and do you schedule writing now, or can you only just go when you feel like it's.

[Michael B. Jordan]

I just write when I feel I don't write a lot. As soon as I started touring and really being in this band, I stopped writing all the time. I wrote every day for, you know, 10 years before that, when I started writing songs. But then I can't really write on tour because I don't play guitar, I play piano, and poorly at that. And then I. So I wouldn't write for like a year and a half because we'd be on tour. So I tend to. Ever since then, I've tended to just kind of not write for a year or two and then write 10 songs, whatever the Record is. And sometimes there's an extra song or two, but not many. I don't write a lot of extras. So it was different this time because I. I wrote all. I just think the. I've been sort of changing some of the ways I write and sort of my. The music I was writing was a little more ambitious than my ability to play it. And so I couldn't really tell how the songs were. I finally. I sat on them for a couple years because I hadn't had a lot of confidence in them. And then I called the guys up and said I wrote we'd love From A to Z from this, the first song on the record. And I loved it. And I thought, I gotta figure out what I'm doing with the rest of the songs. And I called, you know, Emmer and a couple of our other guys, our bass player and drummer, and said, just, I need everybody to come to my house for a week. I just need to play this stuff with you. I need to hear how it is with the band and then I'll know. And when. As soon as we started playing it, I was like, oh, wow, this is. I love this stuff. But this is the first time a lot of it was in my head, like I couldn't really play it, but I knew it. I knew how it was supposed to go, had the chords. I just. My ability to play piano. I couldn't do these songs. And so I was carrying it around in my head until I heard them play it. I could describe what I wanted, and it was great, and I was really excited. But that hadn't really happened before.

[Bobby Bones]

The. With love From A to Z. Whenever. Whenever. The first half came out, it was all one track. Loved that. Thought it was super cool. And then, I guess then it split up into songs. Later, I will shout out the name Bobby. Two references on this record.

[Michael B. Jordan]

Yeah, I know. It was very inspired by, you know, last time we were hanging out.

[Bobby Bones]

Thank you very much. Well, Bobby and the Rat Kings, I think, was already existent when we hung out last time, but this one.

[Michael B. Jordan]

But I knew we were gonna hang out.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Michael B. Jordan]

I knew it was gonna happen.

[Bobby Bones]

Spaceman at Tulsa. I get a shout out as well.

[Michael B. Jordan]

You're back.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes, I'm back, baby.

[Michael B. Jordan]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

So when you do new records, how. How many of these songs do you put on a set list at night? You have so many songs to kind of jump between.

[Michael B. Jordan]

I don't know. I mean, the Suite. I really only like playing the Suite altogether. The guys have tried to get me to, like, just play Single songs. But I really like it all as one, so that's a chunk if you're gonna play that. I mean, that's 20 minutes of the show right there. I don't know. I guess it kind of depends on the night we'll start doing it. And you stick them in. I don't know. It's weird, you know, like, we're. You want to play your whole new record, but sometimes there was a time we could do that when everyone was buying all the records and everybody knew all the songs. So maybe if Spaceman and Tulsa blows up through the roof or under the Aurora does, or one of them does, we can just play the whole record for people.

[Bobby Bones]

What's the song that you hear out randomly? The most of ours. Yeah.

[Michael B. Jordan]

I suppose it's probably Mr. Jones. I hear Long December a lot, especially. It's become kind of a Christmas standard. Like, every, like, holiday season. It seems like everybody's covering it, and it shows up, like, on TikTok and on Instagram, you know, people playing it. This year, MJ Linderman was doing a version right around Christmas, and Gracie Abrams sang it at. I saw that benefit for the fires.

[Bobby Bones]

It was awesome. What'd you think about that?

[Michael B. Jordan]

That was cool.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Michael B. Jordan]

I mean, I always think it's cool. I don't know. I think our songs are kind of weird sometimes. You know, my phrasing is a little difficult. I don't. I don't. I don't hear a lot of people covering us except in bars sometimes, you know, where you don't necessarily want to hear it as much.

[Bobby Bones]

But have you been in a bar and heard someone covering you?

[Michael B. Jordan]

Yeah, and sometimes it's really good. I heard a version of Round Here a while ago that was like, wow, that. That was really good, actually. I was impressed.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you tell them it's you? Oh, no, no.

[Michael B. Jordan]

Well, I used to have. It used to be obvious it was me before I shaved off the dreads. Like, it was. There was no question it was me then. I think I'm a little more anonymous now. I think I'm a lot more anonymous now.

[Bobby Bones]

Was that a big decision to cut off the dreads?

[Michael B. Jordan]

Not really. I felt it wasn't a big decision to me. I just felt like I was excited. I mean, it wasn't really that I just kind of did it on a whim, you know, like. But I think it was a big decision for a lot of other people somehow. And I get asked about it a lot.

[Bobby Bones]

One of my neighbors lives a few houses down is Tebow And Burnett.

[Michael B. Jordan]

Oh, really?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. And he was at. He was over a few weeks ago. We were talking about August and everything after and the Wallflowers. What was working with him, like, as a producer? That's a long time ago.

[Michael B. Jordan]

I mean, it's cool. He's really good. He's got, you know, there's a lot of producers that just have, like, a sound like they've got a studio trick that they do, and that's what they. Their records sound like. T Bone's not really quantifiable like that. He helps you figure out who you are and who you want to be on a record. I think he's really. It's why he's worked with a lot of bands on their first records and made a lot of really good first records with bands, because I think he really helps you define yourself. He's got a thing that, you know, an understanding of music that not everybody has. He's really, really good at that.

[Bobby Bones]

He brought the coolest friend over, which is Ringo Starr. They came over together. That's pretty legit. That's a strong friend. Yeah, that's a strong friend. Who was responsible for putting you as background vocals of 6th Avenue Heartache.

[Michael B. Jordan]

Well, you know, the Wallflowers had made their first album on Virgin, and it's a really good record, but it didn't really make much of an impression. It didn't really sum up who they were. And Jake and I were friends. I was bartending at the Viper Room, and he was there a lot, and we would talk about, you know, what we were doing. And he asked me at one point, I think, if I had any advice about that. And I said, well, you know, T Bone is really good at. What I just told you is, like, helping you define yourself. And I felt like that's kind of what that record needed, that he's a real unique guy and a unique songwriter and singer, and that didn't get brought out as much on that first record. And so I suggested T Bone. And, you know, a few months later, I was at home. I lived in Laurel Canyon then. And I got a phone call from either T Bone or Andy Slater, who was Jake's manager. And they're like, we have. We're working on this song, and it's just not singing yet. You know, do you want to come down and sing it? I was like, which song? He said, six Avenue Hard Act. I said, I don't really know that one, because I knew a lot of Jake songs that he was working on. And he said, well, will you Just come down the hill. And so I went down and had a beer and listened to it and then had a beer and sang it a couple times and left. I mean, it just felt great. I mean, it was like that. That just felt like we figured out exactly that was just what that song needed. It was a great song. It just needed something to pick up the chorus, and it just felt great right away. I think I only sang it once or twice, and then I went back home and it turned out great.

[Bobby Bones]

How long until you actually hear it?

[Michael B. Jordan]

I think they sent me a copy, like, the next day.

[Bobby Bones]

Got it.

[Michael B. Jordan]

But I heard it right then. And we went into the control room after I sang. Sounded great. I mean, that's like. He's got Mike Campbell from the Heartbreakers playing the guitars on that song. It's a really good band. I think Ben Montagn is on that one, too, from the Heartbreakers. I don't know about that, but, yeah, it just felt great. I knew it was great right away. It just felt really like sometimes you just figure out the right thing to sing. It makes. It makes it work.

[Bobby Bones]

SNL just did their 50 years, you guys performance on SNL. One of them. I'm not sure how many you did, just popped up on my TikTok the other day. This guy named Huggy posts all the music performances on TikTok. What do you remember from SNL?

[Michael B. Jordan]

It was a rough week. We had a really hard time. We had. We had said no for a long time when they asked us, because we were just sort of like, we wanted to play around here and Mr. Jones, we wanted to play around here first. We didn't want to edit the songs we had. Both Letterman and SNL were asking us to be on, and we just were really determined to do it the right way. It was going to be our first appearance ever on television.

[Bobby Bones]

They wanted you to edit it for time?

[Michael B. Jordan]

Yeah, they wanted both of them edited. They wanted Mr. Jones first. I really wanted to play around here first. I didn't want to edit the songs. And so we kind of negotiated with both shows for the longest time until SNL agreed. Okay, yeah, you can. You can play them the way you want to, and you can play around here first. And then we got there that week and they were like, oh, by the way, we changed our mind. And I was like, no. And they said, yeah, no, we're gonna have to do it this way. And I said, no, we're doing it this way. It's okay. We'll leave, but we're not doing that and it was just a difficult week, fighting with them all week. And then it was great. We played great. It made our career. I'll say that. It made our career because we weren't even in the top 200. And that record jumped 40 spots a week for five weeks after we played Saturday Night Live. And until we were at number two for the next two years. I mean, it made our career. What'd you play first round here? Yeah, and it was great. It was perfect because, like, Mr. Jones is a great song, it really is. But there's a lot of songs like Mr. Jones that are just catchy, you know, kind of rock tunes. But Round Here is unique, you know, And I think it just, like, this is who we are. It's not what you've been hearing before. And it completely made our career. We were not even in the top 200 before we played SNL. And you know, a month later we were at number 10 and then number two or something like that. But it was a difficult week. I went there once. My friend was Ian McKellen's agent and when all the Lord of the Rings movies were coming out, he hosted. And there was this one producer who kept getting sent to do all the talking to us. I was in the green room because they wanted me to come. I had never been back since then, so this is like eight years later. And I saw this guy walk by in the hallway and then he came back and he's like, whoa, I never thought I'd see you again. What's going on? And I was like, nothing. Just my friend represents Ian and he's like, oh, cool. Well, you know, no hard feelings. I was like, no, it's fine, man. Do you want to get high? I was like, no, it's cool, I'm alright. Okay, cool. See you later. It was weird. I was like, the look on his face. He's like, wow, I never thought I'd see you again.

[Bobby Bones]

That's funny. Yeah, the record. So it's the completion of the 2021, right? So that's what it seems like to me. So it's the rest of that. This is all one album. So why was this a whole body of work that you had been working on and recording and now you're done with it? Or did you just keep going after 2021 and keep building on that?

[Michael B. Jordan]

No, I just wrote the Suite. It was really like a standalone thing. And then we were interrupted by the pandemic anyways. And then when the pandemic was over, I went back to my Friend's. He's got a farm in the west of England, which is where I wrote the whole suite. And I worked and I wrote a lot of this stuff. And on the way home, I stopped in London to sing on my friend's record. They've got this band, gang of youths, Australian band. They live in London, though. And when I got home from that a little while later, they sent me the record, and it was so good. It's called angel in Real Time. And I just had this thought, like, wow, these songs aren't as good as their songs. I thought this stuff was really great. But I'm seeing it in perspective compared to their stuff. It needs some work. And I actually went back to the drawing board and I rewrote the chorus for under the Aurora. I rewrote a bunch of the stuff, and I thought it was really good at that point, but that's kind of why I didn't have a lot of confidence in it. And I sort of sat on it for two years before I wrote With Love From A to Z and then called the guys like I told you. But it was an experience I've never had before. I've never kind of, like, finished things and thought, oh, wait, they're not. That. They're not good enough. But it was. That's kind of why it took a little longer. But originally I was just writing the suite, but then I wanted to write the stuff to go along with it.

[Bobby Bones]

You mentioned you went to Taylor Swift's tour. What did you see there that was inspiring.

[Michael B. Jordan]

It was just really well thought out. You know, I mean, I write songs and sing, and there's a lot that goes into a concert that has to do with, like, set design. We don't do a ton of that. But if you want to do visuals and videos and stuff, there's a lot of thought that has to go into what's the right visual to put behind your song. And I know how complex that thought process can be. And we don't do a lot of video. We're generally set moods with lights. But the thought that had gone into the visual presentations at that tour, like, how. Was really moving. It was really, really good. And this combination of the sets, the incredible video presentation, the movement on stage, the whole thing. There's just a lot of complex creative thought that goes into making a show like that. You know, it's. It's practically like making an entire movie, you know, and also it's three plus hours long. That's a lot. You know, that I was really impressed with the amount of creative people from different disciplines that had come together and made that really impressive show that wasn't just like laserium, you know, like lasers, like, you know, you see was, like, moving. Each song was really thought out. All the things that went into each song were really thought out and they really worked. I was just very impressed by it. It's not the kind of show we put on, but I thought it was brilliant.

[Bobby Bones]

One of the old man things that I say kids miss out on now are the secret tracks. And there's a couple different secret tracks that I think of with you guys. And one was maybe it was Hard Candy. You hold down the fast forward and you guys did the Joni Mitchell song before Vanessa Carlton came on. Was that Hard Candy at the end of Hard Candy?

[Michael B. Jordan]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Michael B. Jordan]

Yeah. We had to rush out the initial pressings of that record, so we didn't have Vanessa's parts on there yet.

[Bobby Bones]

I think you had to, like, hold down the fast forward, but just barely to get to it or let it. You fall asleep with it on, and then all of a sudden the song startles you. But even before that, when it was the.

[Michael B. Jordan]

Desert Life.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. And at the end of that, that.

[Michael B. Jordan]

That.

[Bobby Bones]

That art is no longer. Because now if there's a track that's 17 minutes long, you just see that and you're like, well, why would you guys pick those songs to do hidden? And who was the one that suggested do a hidden track?

[Michael B. Jordan]

Well, sometimes it's just something I really like that doesn't work in the flow of the record. Like, it just didn't feel like part of the record. Like kid things on Desert Life on Desert Life just didn't feel like part of the record. But I really loved it. And thematically it was part of the record, but it was done really lo fi and it just. It didn't fit in the. I tried to fit it in the. And I couldn't sequence it. I mean, I know nobody listens to records anymore, but I really like to make records. And I want you to be able to sit down and listen to it all the way through, even if nobody's gonna do it. That's what I really like. I like making that work. And sometimes I just couldn't get a song to fit, which meant I left a couple songs I love off records and I hit a couple just because that seemed kind of fun. It was like a nice Easter egg for fans. That was the thing with. With the kid things. It just didn't. It fit thematically, but it didn't it didn't flow in the record, but Big Yellow Taxi was different because we just spent this one weekend doing all these covers for B sides. When we were. While we were mixing the record, we were, like, in another little room just cutting cover songs, and that just turned. We had this kind of acoustic hip hop version of Big Yellow Taxi that we play in concert, but we wanted to try doing a remix with it. We, like, went out to Pharrell back then. It was just starting in the Neptunes, then went back out to him, Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis from the time. But we weren't able to sort of get any of it done in time. And Ron Fair came and said, hey, I know you've been doing this with all these other guys, but I actually did a version, and I think it works really well. And he sent it to me, and I was like, oh, that does work. That's really cool. Thanks. And then he wanted to have someone sing on it. And right before we were mixing Hard Candy, he was in there mixing a record with this, with Vanessa Carlton, her first record, you know, And I had heard a bunch of it because he was in there, you know, And Jack. Joseph Puig had played me some of her songs. I thought they were really good. And I knew that I had to leave for tour before we were going to be able to finish it. And I thought it might be intimidating for someone to come in and sing on one of our tracks. But he could get a lot out of a woman he had just worked with. Well, she would be comfortable enough with him to actually, like, improv on our track. And she did. Yeah, it worked out great. It was funny because she was this total unknown singer, and then by the time it came out, she was very popular.

[Bobby Bones]

The Complete Sweets comes out May 9th. Man, you guys are doing a lot of shows, too. Do you do the touring where you just go away and don't come back for a couple months?

[Michael B. Jordan]

Yeah, mostly. Yeah. The weekend. That's sort of a Nashville thing. I know. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Friday, Saturday, maybe. Maybe Thursday, maybe Sunday, but back home.

[Michael B. Jordan]

Yeah, that sounds very convenient.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, it is. Yeah. So you guys just go because you guys are going, like, Europe to the whole thing.

[Michael B. Jordan]

Yeah, we're doing. The whole summer is gone. We're out on tour in America. You know, we pass through home. Wherever your home is, you usually pass through it. And then we'll go to Europe in the fall.

[Bobby Bones]

That's pretty cool. A lot of dates from June, and we'll put them up in the notes here on the podcast. But from June Yeah, all the way up until November, end of.

[Michael B. Jordan]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Until it gets cold.

[Michael B. Jordan]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you do cold weather shows or most your shows, amphitheaters?

[Michael B. Jordan]

Well, not during the summer, but other times a year.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you ever play song? You ever play along December, in December and the crowd goes, ah. Like, just because you yell December, it's like yelling a city when you're in it.

[Michael B. Jordan]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

He said our month. He said our month. This is crazy.

[Michael B. Jordan]

I should write one for each month. Then I would have hits any time of the year.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, that would be good. We're gonna play some. Some music here in just a second. Oh, by the way, I should tell you, not that it matters. I looked.

[Michael B. Jordan]

It matters, man.

[Bobby Bones]

It doesn't matter. But this was the first book ever wrote, and it was bestseller for a little bit. It's pretty cool. I'm pretty proud of it. But I thanked you guys in the back of the book. Really, I did.

[Michael B. Jordan]

Can I have a copy?

[Bobby Bones]

Well, you don't want. No, no, it's not. Sure you can have a copy. But it wasn't for that. I just. I. It was laying here by my foot, and I was like, you know, because you guys. You guys are my favorite band of all time. And so I said, I wonder if I thanked them in the credits like the book? And I did. You're on the back page, where I was like, hey, I want to thank County Crows.

[Michael B. Jordan]

I know you came to that show in Nashville a few years ago, and they told me you were there, but then you didn't come backstage.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, because I don't want to be that guy. Like, I just want it. And honestly, and I think you'll understand this, I didn't want to not like you because I love. I love my relationship with your music, and I didn't want to not like you. And so I was like, you know what? I'm good. Because the place I'm in now with Count of Crows, it couldn't be better.

[Michael B. Jordan]

I hear you. I hear you. If you come backstage at some point, I promise not to be.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, now I like you, though, because now I feel good about it. But that was really the reason they were like, do you want to go meet Adam? And I was like, no, I just enjoyed the show. I was like, I do not. Because right now I love Adam.

[Michael B. Jordan]

And he might be a.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, and not even that, but I enjoy doing standup. And some days you just don't feel good. Some days that's true. And so I just didn't want it to be there. So Next time. I probably still won't, but right now I'm gonna say I will.

[Michael B. Jordan]

Well, can I have a book? Or else. You're being a. Right now.

[Amy Brown]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

No, I'll give you a book.

[Michael B. Jordan]

I want a book. I'll give you a book. It's really cool that we're thanked in the back of the book. I want one.

[Amy Brown]

How did you thank him?

[Bobby Bones]

Like I said, I just thanked him for the music. For like all the, you know, I mean.

[Amy Brown]

Yeah, Read it, Read it.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. What if it's like, Adam, I'm in.

[Amy Brown]

Love with you gushing, I want to have your babies.

[Bobby Bones]

Also, a big sad hug to the county crows for making lots of great music that makes me sad by feeling happy, by feeling sad.

[Michael B. Jordan]

That's pretty great, actually. Yeah, it's nice.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Because, I mean, that's how I felt when I. So I got a little choked up.

[Michael B. Jordan]

That was actually pretty good.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Well, thank you.

[Amy Brown]

Well, and I'll clarify some importance behind that. Some of Bobby's upbringing. He didn't have a lot of space to feel, so I think your music gave him that space to feel sad.

[Michael B. Jordan]

Hug all around. I'm not making fun of you. That's actually really sweet. I'm kind of touched by that.

[Bobby Bones]

But any hug at all was happy for me.

[Michael B. Jordan]

Now we're going too far.

[Bobby Bones]

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[Bobby Bones]

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[Michael B. Jordan]

Bobby Bones. Hey.

[Bobby Bones]

Welcome back, everybody. We have Miles here, who I met Miles in Las Vegas. Miles. Everybody prepare yourself. He has a British accent. Miles, how's it going?

[Miles]

I'm good. How are you?

[Bobby Bones]

Good. So buddy lives in Canada, but you grew up where?

[Miles]

Oh, it's complicated. I was born in Scotland.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, it's not British. My bad.

[Miles]

No, it is.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, it is.

[Miles]

Scotland's in the uk so any country in the UK is. Is considered British.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, but what about Scottish?

[Miles]

Yeah, that's like. You can be English from England.

[Bobby Bones]

Walk us through it. Yes.

[Miles]

England is also in the uk, so that's still British. You can be Scott, Scottish, from Scotland. Scotland is also in the uk.

[Bobby Bones]

Could be Welsh, so it'd be like an American accent, but an American southern accent.

[Miles]

Sure.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Miles]

Yeah, but my accent's all messed up because I was born in Scotland, grew up in England. I moved over to the Middle East. I was in Dubai for six years when I was 18.

[Bobby Bones]

So at 18 years old, you moved to Dubai?

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

For what?

[Miles]

Radio.

[Bobby Bones]

So you decided at 18 that you wanted to pursue a career. And why Dubai? Was that the first job? And how did you find a job in Dubai?

[Miles]

It was crazy. So I'm a radio Nepo, baby. My dad is in radio.

[Bobby Bones]

Where?

[Miles]

In Scotland. So he's been a morning show host for. For like, 40 years.

[Michael B. Jordan]

Wow.

[Miles]

And now he's in management. So for years, like, out of school, when I was interning and stuff, I was always Robin's kid. Oh, you're Robin's son. You know, and I kind of wanted to move away and become my own man.

[Bobby Bones]

Gets no further than going to the Middle East.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

So how did you find a job there? And what? I don't know. I think I'd be scared to go.

[Miles]

So basically, when my dad was doing a morning show, I was telling this to Amy off the air. He was doing a contest With a new airline and they offered him some flights to like New York, I think Brussels, like Belgium and Dubai. And it was right before 9 11. So him and my mum had originally picked New York. Then 911 happened and he was like, well we're not going to go there anymore, let's try Dubai. So they went to Dubai, went for a week, had an amazing time. When they came back the sales rep was like, how was it? Did you enjoy the campaign, the flights and everything? And they were like, yeah, it was great. But they were like dredging for oil off the coast of the hotel in the beach. And they were like, that's not dredging for oil. They're building a man made island called the Palm. It's like a palm tree with like. It's insane. It looks like something up like the Sims or something. It's crazy. My mum and dad bought a place in Dubai off plan when they were building that man made island. So then every single like school vacation we would go there every single time like Easter, summer, Christmas even.

[Bobby Bones]

How far away is that from where you were?

[Miles]

Seven hours.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, not even that bad. That's closer than if we went to Hawaii.

[Miles]

Yeah, seven hours, four hour time difference. And basically when this one time, this Easter vacation we were there, I think it was 2011, maybe even earlier 2010, there was this volcano in Iceland that erupted. This is the most far fetched story ever by the way. But there was a volcanic ash cloud that shut down the entire European airspace. So my dad was stuck there for over two weeks. He was off his morning show and everyone was talking about it. It was like a really big, big story. So he wanted to find a studio in Dubai to get on the air and broadcast to Scotland and do his morning show. So I went in with him, kind of, you know, just shadowing him I guess. And they were like, what do you do? And I was like 17 at the time. I was like, I'm still in school but I really want to get into radio. And they said would you consider coming out and doing like a summer internship? And I was like absolutely.

[Bobby Bones]

And at this point you already felt comfortable in Dubai because you'd been so many times.

[Miles]

Exactly, yeah. So I did kind of know my way around and I knew to be respectful and you know how the laws work and stuff because it is kind of, it's very conservative like compared to what it used to be for the Middle east. But it's definitely different. You know, you can't talk about alcohol, you can't talk about gambling and all.

[Bobby Bones]

Those Kind of things, as in on the air or in general?

[Miles]

Both, kind of. Well, yeah, mostly on. On the air, I mean. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. So you're like, okay, cool. And so when you turn 18, they offer you a job?

[Miles]

Yeah, Morning show producer. Like on air morning show producer.

[Bobby Bones]

And what did your dad say about you moving to Dubai after having been there a bunch of times? It's different being on vacation or holiday, as you guys call it. What do you say about moving there?

[Miles]

He thought it was cool because they still had their place there. So you lived? Yeah, until they kicked me out, and they were like, okay, we want it back now. This is our holiday spot, you know?

[Bobby Bones]

And so how long were you in Dubai?

[Miles]

I was there for, like, five, six years.

[Bobby Bones]

And what was your ascent like in radio there? Were you producer the whole time and then you left Dubai to go get a different job or did you move into a different role at the station?

[Miles]

I moved into a different role. I actually moved from one station to another to, like, the biggest station out there, which is Virgin Radio. So I was there. There's a guy that does the morning show host. He's a good friend of mine. He's called Chris Fade. He's like a really big Australian radio personality in Dubai. He's like the Ryan Seacrest of the Middle East.

[Bobby Bones]

But he's Australian. Yeah, and they accept that he's Australian.

[Miles]

Lebanese, which really works because he's got, like, the kind of Western side of it, of his heritage, and then he's also got, like, the Middle Eastern side. So he really just talks to a lot of the demographic there.

[Bobby Bones]

So you worked for him?

[Miles]

I worked with him. He was the assistant program director at the time. And then I was doing the night show.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, so you had your own show then?

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And so you're there, and then when do you leave and why do you leave?

[Miles]

I got fired.

[Bobby Bones]

For doing what?

[Miles]

I just really didn't get on with the program director.

[Bobby Bones]

It's just personality conflict.

[Miles]

Yeah, personality conflict.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Michael B. Jordan]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And then you're like, what now? What do I do?

[Miles]

I moved back to the uk. I didn't want to go. I didn't want to stay there. I went through a breakup as well. Kind of had a little bit to do with it.

[Bobby Bones]

So I want to just sidetrack for a second. To me, I've never been to Dubai. Just from what I see about it on the news, it doesn't feel like it'd be super safe.

[Miles]

Is it so safe?

[Bobby Bones]

More safe than even here?

[Miles]

Define safe. Are you talking about, like, I Don't know.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't want to get scooped up and then thrown into a Dubai penitentiary and chop my head off because I showed. I showed my knee in public or something.

[Miles]

Have you ever been arrested here?

[Bobby Bones]

No.

[Miles]

So you'll never get arrested there. Just don't do anything you wouldn't do in your normal daily life. And.

[Bobby Bones]

But I want to. I want to go to Dubai and go crazy.

[Eddie]

Wait, wait.

[Bobby Bones]

So I could.

[Eddie]

So I could urinate in an alley behind a building there?

[Amy Brown]

I mean, you can't do that here.

[Eddie]

But I've never been arrested for it.

[Miles]

But, like, don't get caught, basically. You know, just don't be.

[Bobby Bones]

So.

[Eddie]

Are there bars?

[Miles]

Yeah, loads. Yeah. It's crazy. Like, that was my, like, university. That was my college being in Dubai because I was 18, right. So that was my, like, my going out, partying, having fun. I was also DJing after the show as well, in clubs and stuff, and I had the best time. It was crazy. I used to have friends come over and they'd be like, you live like this. This is crazy. I'd be like, no, I'm only doing this because you're here.

[Bobby Bones]

So do you feel like the representation of it because it's in the Middle east is a bit unfair?

[Miles]

100%. I think when I. Yeah, like, I started off by saying I moved to the Middle east, what I should have said was, I moved to Dubai. Because I think when people hear the Middle east, especially in North America, they're like, whoa.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I do. Even when you go Dubai, I'm like, whoa, Middle East. But you have. You have to be really rich to live there, because I see all the really expensive things.

[Miles]

Hey, it's tax free.

[Bobby Bones]

What do you mean, no tax? Like, no income tax?

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

No sales tax.

[Miles]

They introduced, like, the smallest, like, luxury goods tax. I think it's like 2.5% or something, but no tax.

[Bobby Bones]

Wow.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

So that was fun looking up jobs.

[Miles]

Now, I always tell everyone it balances out, Right. Because you're spending so much money. It's really expensive there, especially if you want to drink. Alcohol is really expensive because everything's being imported. Nothing's grown there, really. It's difficult to, like.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Miles]

To make things there.

[Bobby Bones]

And so would you ever want to go back and live there?

[Miles]

No, but I really appreciate going back now and enjoying it as what it is designed for. And it's designed to be a vacation place.

[Bobby Bones]

So you will go back 100%.

[Miles]

I got engaged there to my Canadian fiance.

[Bobby Bones]

So you. Okay, so we're gonna get To Canada. So you moved back to.

[Miles]

To the uk.

[Bobby Bones]

Which part?

[Miles]

This place in England called Gloucester. Tiny. Tiny place. Tiny radio market.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, so to do radio?

[Miles]

Yeah, to do a morning show.

[Bobby Bones]

So you're doing mornings in Gloucester?

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Is it Gloucester, England, uk?

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And how'd that go?

[Miles]

It went really well for a year. I had the best on air year, I think, in terms of, like, growth and learning how to do a solo morning show. Just me and a producer. I loved it. It was for a really big brand, but one of their local affiliates. The funny thing is, my dad was on one of those local affiliates to doing a morning show. We were doing the same hours, playing the same songs in two different markets at the same time for the same brand. The station was.

[Bobby Bones]

So you weren't competing against each other?

[Michael B. Jordan]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

You were working for the same company? Yeah, got it.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And so how long were you there until you moved?

[Miles]

I was there for a year, and then all of a sudden, I think there was 25 local morning shows. We attended this group, like, programming meeting, and everyone kind of knew that they were gonna scrap one of the local shows. We just didn't know which one. We thought it was gonna be afternoon drive, but it was mornings. So they canned 25 morning shows like that.

[Bobby Bones]

You and your dad?

[Miles]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Michael B. Jordan]

Dang.

[Bobby Bones]

Same time.

[Miles]

Yeah. My mom was like, oh, so then what happens? The next day, we got told to go back on the air. We still have to work out, like, the rest of the, like, couple months, knowing that we were just losing our jobs. The next day, I was with my producer in the studio, and he was like, well, what are you gonna do? And I was like, I don't know. I'm gonna look at, like, see who I know and where they are in the world. I don't want to go back to Dubai. I was. I was like, I've been there. I've done that. I always wanted to move to the US but it's really difficult with visas, and especially if you don't really have any experience over there yet. But with. With Canada, the UK and Canada, they're in the Commonwealth, so your passport kind of works, and it's easy to get a visa. So basically, I knew that my old program director who hired me in Dubai was in Vancouver. He was working for a station called Kiss. So I booked a flight to Vancouver on my own. I gave myself a month flying back from Toronto, so kind of West Coast, east coast with no plan in the middle. And I just thought I'd network the hell out of it and Try and meet as many people as I could, you know, just try and, you know, hey, can I, can I meet you? Can we go for a coffee? Can we go for a drink? This is what I do, you know, I've got my showreel, I've been in Dubai.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you save up money from your jobs? Do you have enough saved up to do this?

[Miles]

They gave us like severance pay from that morning show, so I used all of it for that trip. Got it. So it was like all or nothing really. On my last day in Toronto, I met my NOW program director and it really worked out well. It was right before COVID They hired me and I was like, perfect, I'll take the job. Went back to the UK, got my visa. That was in July of 2019. And I moved there in September 2019.

[Bobby Bones]

So you've been there. I saw a video of you and Richard Branson, which I thought the picture at first was a fake plastic or like a wax Richard Branson, but he was literally at your station.

[Miles]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he's the big, big, big.

[Bobby Bones]

Sure. He owns Virgin, right?

[Miles]

Cause I'm at Virgin Radio. So he came out because his airline, Virgin Atlantic, had reintroduced the service from Toronto to London Heathrow in England. So he was promoting that. So as part of that, you know, whenever he's in town, you know, I'm sure he's been at the Virgin Hotel down the street. I'm staying there here in Nashville for free. I got a good deal.

[Bobby Bones]

His room has like a pool in the.

[Miles]

It's pretty nice.

[Michael B. Jordan]

Yeah, it's a room.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, like on the tights. On the top of the whole. Anyway, go ahead.

[Miles]

It's pretty nice. Yeah, so, yeah, I interviewed him when he came out. I'd already met him before because he came out to Dubai for the 10 year anniversary of that station in Dubai and we did a broadcast from the top of the tallest skyscraper in the world. It's called the Burj Khalifa. And that was real fun. So, yeah, and I met some amazing people along the way.

[Bobby Bones]

And how long have you been at the station now?

[Miles]

Five years. Just over five years.

[Bobby Bones]

And what's your role?

[Miles]

I'm the national night show host, so.

[Bobby Bones]

And what, top 40?

[Miles]

Yeah, top 40. Yeah. So 12, 12 stations.

[Bobby Bones]

I would imagine anybody in Canada then that's going to do interviews, comes by where you are, if you're the. Yeah, especially in Toronto.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Like you get to see a lot of cool people meet.

[Miles]

100%. Yeah. The cool thing about Toronto as well is if you're into movies, Mike. The Toronto International Film Festival. TIFF is one of the biggest film festivals in the world, so we get loads of stars coming in September for that. But then outside of that, we've also got a huge, like, number of huge venues that, you know, artists perform at.

[Bobby Bones]

A couple of questions about living in Canada. It's cold.

[Miles]

It is cold. And I made the mistake of visiting first in July when it wasn't as cold.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, yeah.

[Miles]

What a mistake.

[Bobby Bones]

What outdoor sports do they do up there?

[Miles]

They ski, they snowboard.

[Bobby Bones]

What about. There's really no golf, right? Yeah, there's golf, but I mean, for like, a window. I mean, the windows, like, open and close, right?

[Miles]

The courses are just about to open at the end of the month.

[Bobby Bones]

What about pickleball?

[Miles]

Yeah, it's big. It's big. And paddle Padel? Yeah, paddle.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't know, but it's basically similar. It's awesome because they bounce it off walls and stuff.

[Miles]

Glass wall.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, we don't have that here, but it's like racquetball meets kind of a paddle ball type thing.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you play? Do you play those?

[Miles]

No, I don't. I play golf. I play golf. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

How can you play golf if it's only, like, for three months a year?

[Miles]

It's quick. Yeah. You got to get out there as much as you can. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

So Miles and I met at iHeart Festival in Vegas. And we're just walking in the hall, and I stopped and talked with him, and I was like, hey, man, if you want to come and just, like, see what we're doing, I don't know, that'll help, but come, come by. And so he came down and flew down for a couple days.

[Miles]

I feel like Charlie in the Chocolate Factory. I've been. I've been listening to this show since when you guys were on top 40 when I was in Dubai. Actually, the reason I found you, I think I was just looking for, like, radio shows to listen to on the way in. Because with the time difference, you know, we use, like, prep sites and prep sheets for those of you aren't in who aren't in the industry. There's loads of prep that you can get for morning shows. Most of them are tailored for morning shows. But by the time I was on the air doing a night show, it was already, like, done. It was, like, used. It was old news. So I would always listen to, like, west coast or not west coast, but, like, Western, Western time zone or North American radio shows. I found you guys and, like, I stole. Tell me something Good. And loads of stuff like that. So, Yeah, I always. I always remember listening to you guys and. Yeah. Just never, never stopped, really. And when I remember your last show on Top 40 radio, moving to country, and I was like, wow. I was like, do they know country music? I feel like all I've heard them is talk about Ke$, and Justin Timberlake.

[Bobby Bones]

That's funny.

[Miles]

Justin Bieber.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Miles]

But you guys have. You've absolutely killed it. So congrats.

[Bobby Bones]

That last show is funny. I have a picture in my house of the last show that's in an office. I never thought. I hadn't thought about that last show until you brought it up last time we were talking because you had said you'd heard that show.

[Miles]

I remember when you all left the studio, one by one.

[Bobby Bones]

One by one. Yeah.

[Miles]

I was in a coffee shop in Dubai crying, listening to that. Yeah, I still remember it.

[Bobby Bones]

That's awesome. So this is how crazy his workplace is. They did one. They allowed him to come down here and he's working from studios here. Did they pay for you to come down here?

[Miles]

No, I just paid for my flights. I got a really good deal on the hotel.

[Amy Brown]

Do you fly down here? Virgin?

[Miles]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Bobby Bones]

Air Canada, they have that here, do they?

[Miles]

No, we don't.

[Bobby Bones]

International.

[Miles]

I think there's Virgin America. I took a New York to LA flight with Virgin.

[Bobby Bones]

No, I mean for to Nashville.

[Miles]

No, maybe not to Nashville.

[Bobby Bones]

I've flown Virgin America before. It's awesome. You get on, there are like lights.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

When you walk, there's like red lights, green lights.

[Miles]

I believe they were one of the first airlines, I think Virgin Atlantic, to have a standup bar, like in the 80s.

[Eddie]

Oh, that's smart.

[Michael B. Jordan]

That's on the plane.

[Bobby Bones]

I didn't see that.

[Eddie]

We need to bring that back.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Hey, how far is Toronto from here? Is it long?

[Bobby Bones]

Very far.

[Miles]

Two hours.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. New York.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Stop it.

[Miles]

Yeah, you should come up.

[Michael B. Jordan]

Two hours.

[Miles]

Yeah, come up.

[Amy Brown]

I've never been.

[Eddie]

I should go to Toronto.

[Miles]

Just don't come in winter. It's too cold.

[Eddie]

No, I would never do that, Mike.

[Bobby Bones]

We went and it was not quite winter, but it was getting there. Yeah, it was getting a little cold. It's. It's cold, but it wasn't like super cold. And I was like, if this is like mid cold, this sucks. Everybody was super nice. Everybody's awesome.

[Miles]

Well, your show is obviously on. The iHeartRadio Canada country affiliate is called Pure Country.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Miles]

So obviously your show goes on the same time as mine, so we're head to head competitors.

[Eddie]

And you know what's weird is this dude, he met one chick in Canada and he's marrying her.

[Miles]

Yeah, that's right. I got to Toronto that week in September and within a week I met my now beautiful fiance, Heather.

[Bobby Bones]

So you met more than one chick? You just met her and then it was over?

[Miles]

Yeah, I was like, can you get me a permanent residency? And she was like, yeah, done.

[Bobby Bones]

When did you get engaged?

[Miles]

We got engaged in May 2023.

[Bobby Bones]

And. And you're not married now?

[Miles]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

When are you getting married?

[Miles]

Okay. Yeah, we are. No one knows that. We had to. Yeah, we had.

[Bobby Bones]

We don't have to reveal it here.

[Miles]

No, it's fine.

[Lunchbox]

Breaking news.

[Miles]

That's okay.

[Amy Brown]

So you're married. Oh, just her status legally.

[Miles]

No. So it's not. It's nothing to do with that.

[Bobby Bones]

We're getting married.

[Miles]

Yes.

[Amy Brown]

Oh, man, this got off real.

[Miles]

Have you ever seen 90 Day Fiance? That's me. No, basically we're getting married in Scotland, where I'm from and most of my family live it's in a castle. Amazing venue. Can't wait. That's in July. But to actually get married officially you have to provide like a certificate by the time you get over there. So we went to a park recently in Toronto with this wedding officiant and it was the most like, it was like homeless people in the park. We're getting married. It was like a 10 minute ceremony. So we got the legalities, the formalities of it over and done with. So we are officially married.

[Bobby Bones]

Congratulations.

[Miles]

Thank you.

[Eddie]

So will you celebrate your anniversary like in July or will you celebrate it in the homeless people in the park in July?

[Miles]

Maybe we'll do something in the park as well.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I do. So Miles is here. He's gonna be in the next couple days. But I do have to get to the. This spill the tea because I know we put it in the teaser and we had a little issue with our video at first. So, Ray, do we have this ready?

[Michael B. Jordan]

Yep.

[Bobby Bones]

So someone here on the show. This has not on Miles, by the way. This is not about Miles. I put this in. No, no, no. I put this in the description of the video. So I needed to make sure we do it. So people that are here are like, I never heard that. Spill the tea. So someone on the show anonymously wanted to spill the tea on somebody else. So first, Ray, would you play spill the tea?

[Eddie]

Let's spill the tea.

[Bobby Bones]

And so this is anonymous. They're using the Voice changer. It's 31 seconds. Hit it, Ray.

[Ryan Coogler]

This message is about Eddie.

[Bobby Bones]

Does he not understand when you water.

[Ryan Coogler]

A plant that you need to have something underneath it to catch the water? Eddie brought us plants and thought, oh, what a great gift. But one sits outside the studio, and Eddie continues to water it, and he.

[Michael B. Jordan]

Pours a bunch of water in it.

[Bobby Bones]

And the water just comes out the.

[Ryan Coogler]

Bottom of the plant and leaks all.

[Bobby Bones]

Over the table and floor. But Eddie doesn't care about keeping our.

[Ryan Coogler]

Workspace clean, our common areas clean.

[Michael B. Jordan]

I'll just pour water in this plant.

[Ryan Coogler]

Who cares if leaks all over the floor? Eddie, do better.

[Michael B. Jordan]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

That's anonymous.

[Lunchbox]

I wonder who that was.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, that was so not enough. Yeah.

[Eddie]

Surprised I don't know who that was.

[Bobby Bones]

Eddie, your answer to that.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah, I really couldn't understand much of it because it was anonymous. But I guess, like, you're being sloppy.

[Bobby Bones]

There's water everywhere from you with this plant.

[Lunchbox]

But that's not my plant. I don't even know what they're talking.

[Bobby Bones]

Are you watering it?

[Lunchbox]

No. Oh, then I don't even know who. Like, I gave you.

[Bobby Bones]

I didn't accept it. Right.

[Lunchbox]

So I gave yours to someone else. It's not even here. And then I gave Amy one. And Lunchbox. Lunchbox said he took his home.

[Eddie]

Yep.

[Lunchbox]

So I guess that's Amy's.

[Amy Brown]

I'm not watering it, so I don't know, man. Who's watering it?

[Bobby Bones]

Scuba, do we know anything about this? I don't know.

[Lunchbox]

There's one over here on the table.

[Michael B. Jordan]

Over.

[Lunchbox]

It's got some water underneath it, so I'm not sure. Oh, maybe the cleaning lady waters it.

[Miles]

Maybe.

[Bobby Bones]

Let's just get rid of it.

[Eddie]

Let's just say this. I mean, whoever it was Anonymous may have been sitting there and watched Eddie unscrew a bottled water and pour water into it. Right there on that table.

[Bobby Bones]

Eddie is water it. So I did.

[Amy Brown]

I don't remember that, obviously. Lunchboxes who.

[Lunchbox]

So, yeah, he just threw himself under the bus. He's the. He's the anonymous.

[Bobby Bones]

But I think he took that and said, I'll die on my sword.

[Eddie]

Yeah, because you denied watering it. So I was like, all right, if you're gonna lie about watering it, I'll go ahead and reveal myself on this one.

[Bobby Bones]

So why are you water. Why don't you take it home?

[Lunchbox]

I guess I will. Yeah. I guess if Amy doesn't want it.

[Amy Brown]

Well, how do you know that's fine?

[Lunchbox]

Because Lunchbox took his home.

[Amy Brown]

Where's Bobby's?

[Lunchbox]

Bobby's? I gave it to someone else. In the building.

[Amy Brown]

Oh, that's mine.

[Bobby Bones]

Then she's like.

[Eddie]

She was like, how am I getting busted here? Hold on.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I want. Let's get all the plants out. Can we? We're getting the habit of leaving, like, stuff out there. Let's not get in the habit. I don't care who Scuba puts in charge of every day, making sure that the. Our little lobby is. I'm not saying spic and span, but we got some stuff from Walmart last week. On Friday, they sent in a bunch. They have a new food line. People send stuff all the time. This stuff still sitting there, like, half eaten.

[Eddie]

Yeah, we're snacking on it.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, move it in the snack room because it's been there for, like, four days. I don't want it.

[Amy Brown]

Anything you take in the snack room, then.

[Bobby Bones]

Then the sales ladies take it home. It doesn't sit in the lobby for four days because it doesn't look good. Yeah, we look like slobs.

[Eddie]

Question.

[Bobby Bones]

What.

[Eddie]

What if we just get, like, a bottom for the plant and then it's like a welcome? Like, it's a. It's a. It's not a bad plant. It's just. It needs a bottom.

[Bobby Bones]

We can't even keep snacks. Not looking like they're tossed. And there's garbage everywhere all the time. So we'll work on plants and maybe vases, pictures. Yes, all that.

[Amy Brown]

Later, I was gonna see if we could get a. I forget the exact kind. I'll look it up. But there's a particular plant that's really good for the air in here, and I want to.

[Bobby Bones]

No plants in here. What?

[Amy Brown]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

No plants in here.

[Amy Brown]

No plants in here, Bobby.

[Bobby Bones]

No plants in here. Okay, but it'll get knocked over. This carpet is terrible. We can't have anything nice.

[Lunchbox]

Somebody's gonna water it.

[Bobby Bones]

We can't have anything. We'll be gone for a week vacation. It'll die.

[Amy Brown]

Don't you want cleaner?

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, why don't we get, like, a pet porcupine and a terrarium in here as well?

[Eddie]

Gumball machine is good for morale in the studio.

[Bobby Bones]

We. We have learned the one thing we've learned. We can't have anything nicer living because it dies or it breaks.

[Michael B. Jordan]

Dang.

[Bobby Bones]

Am I wrong?

[Lunchbox]

No, no.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, a fish would be cool and it would die. Yeah, that would be cool. So the tank breaks in here. Water everywhere around all this equipment.

[Amy Brown]

Spider plant. That's what it is. A chlorophyll.

[Eddie]

That ship has sailed.

[Amy Brown]

No, a chlorophytum. Chlamycid.

[Lunchbox]

I gave you a money plant. You didn't even want that.

[Bobby Bones]

Why do you want a spider plant?

[Amy Brown]

Because air lunchbox brings in diseases. And if we have a spider clin.

[Eddie]

It keeps says Ms. Covid.

[Bobby Bones]

That's true. She'd have Covid in here for a week.

[Amy Brown]

Okay, yeast infection now.

[Bobby Bones]

We're on it.

[Miles]

Let's go.

[Amy Brown]

Even get me started on the tuberculosis you gave me.

[Bobby Bones]

Exactly. Disease.

[Lunchbox]

Okay, syphilis.

[Bobby Bones]

We're out of here. Thank you, everybody. Miles. Good to see you. Miles. Gonna be here for a couple days.

[Miles]

Thank you.

[Bobby Bones]

I think that's all for now. We're gonna go. All right, shut her down, boys.

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[Bobby Bones]

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[Miles]

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[Bobby Bones]

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[Eddie]

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[Bobby Bones]

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[Eddie]

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