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Podcast Host
With Morgan Huelsman this week, Holly and Nate are joining me. You may know them as 21 pineapples. You may know them because you've seen them all over social media. Whatever the case may be, they are a super fun mother and son duo and they're going to share their story, why they post on social media, why it's so important what they're doing. And I think you're going to get not only a lot of laughs but also maybe some tears, some heartwarming moments, the whole shebang. I am so excited right now to be joined by Holly and her son Nate, who some may know online as Nate the Great. Is that correct?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Podcast Host
Thanks for joining me today.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Thanks for having us.
Podcast Host
I'm so excited to hear about your guys's story and the main reason you're here, which we're going to talk about. And then we're going to talk about all the fun personal things. But you Guys launched a company we did called 21 pineapples.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Right?
Yes.
Podcast Host
Give me the whole story behind this.
Nate
So the 21st means the 21st chromosome. And pineapple shares are welcoming.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Right? Okay.
Podcast Host
And so 21st chromosome.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah. All kids with down syndrome have an extra one. So that was kind of. Let me just back up a teeny little bit, if you don't mind. And you can cut me off anytime you want, because I'm a talker.
Podcast Host
I would love for you to talk. All the things.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
All the things.
Podcast Host
All of it.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Okay. So what had happened was, Nate, I had a non for profit many years ago because when he was born, the doctors and the nurses all told me that they were sorry. And immediately. He was my fifth child. I realized there was absolutely nothing to be sorry about. But they robbed me of that celebration in the room. And it was horrific. So I remembered that I had promised him, literally minutes after his birth that I will never let anybody say sorry again. And I will make sure that the world sees the brightness. I just got chills. And that's my own story.
Podcast Host
Is that crazy? It's not crazy at all.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
It's crazy. So we did a not for profit. Went to hospitals and schools and educated people on simply saying congratulations. And you'd think people would have known that by now, but they still say sorry. We got sympathy cards in the mail. And I respect that. People don't know what to say. And maybe that was the purpose of our beginning, was to just say congratulations, say he's a beautiful boy, because he was. And you still are.
Nate
I am.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Absolutely. So then Covid hit. So the non for profit kind of went to the side. And then my daughter was doing a bit on the Tiger King for Tik Tok. And I thought, oh, I'm going to do one. She's like, don't you dare. You're too old for Tik Tok. I'm like, oh, game on. I'm ready.
Podcast Host
Challenge accepted.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Thank you. Thank you. Start now. So we did our very first video. Nate and I just said to Nate. We were in the car, nate, the world needs change. And what do you think it'll take to change this world? And he simply said, love.
Podcast Host
That's a great answer.
Nate
Thank you.
Podcast Host
Why do you think love?
Nate
Because I love people and they mean a lot to me.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Feels good, doesn't it?
Yes.
And. And what else? You.
Nate
You preach kindness and acceptance.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
So important.
Nate
It is.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Especially today's world.
Yeah.
So the video blew up, and I saw how many people resonated with that simple word. It was so profound and yet so simplistic. So I knew we had something, and we always did know. And we used to joke, my daughter and I, in the car, like, when will it hit? When will the world see him and know him? And we were very careful. We didn't want to exploit him in any way. And of course, we get accused of that, and anybody else does too, that tries to celebrate their child in the public.
Podcast Host
And Nate, do you feel exploited at all?
Nate
Yes, I do.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Oh, my God.
Podcast Host
Why did I know that? Why did I know?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Wait, wait, what is exploited mean?
Nate
I actually don't know.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Perfect.
Podcast Host
Okay.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Exactly.
Podcast Host
Do you feel like you're taking advantage of by making social media videos?
Nate
No.
Podcast Host
Do you like making social media videos?
Nate
I do.
Podcast Host
There we go. We have the real answer. But that was funny. That was great.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
That's why we're always scared on live shows. We're like, oh, what's he gonna say?
Podcast Host
But it's perfect because that's who you guys are.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
And the beauty is he's honest. He's like, I really don't know what the word is. That makes it even funnier. So we did the non for profit. We did the tick tock. It blew up. And then he was discovered by so many people that just felt madly in love with him. We're in la. Nate models for a designer in Hollywood.
Podcast Host
What designer?
Nate
His name is Jacob Meir. He designs Lady Gaga and Madonna.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Katy Perry. All of them.
Podcast Host
That's amazing.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Who did you meet? The fella met in the audience, who was that?
Nate
Jason Dulo.
Podcast Host
Yeah, Jason Derulo. Like, what you say? That guy?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
What did you do? What did you do?
Nate
I did A Savage Love.
Podcast Host
He was like, with him?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
No, in the. Did the. As Nate was modeling.
Yes.
Michael Jackson or not Michael Jackson. Who? Whose jacket?
Nate
Oh, Prince. Yeah, Prince.
Podcast Host
That's incredible. Did you always want to be a model?
Nate
I do.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Okay, you did?
Nate
I did.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah. We just kind of fell into it.
Yeah.
We made friends. They fell in love with him and they're like, he needs to be on the catwalk.
Nate
Yeah, I do.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
And you rocked it. He's been in so many. Not the point. We're in la.
Yes.
And here's the cool part about social media. And I know there's so much negative, but think about how fun this is. We're at a little hotel in Hollywood. He had just finished the fashion show the night before. My daughter's on Instagram and she sees these two gigantic influencers from Tik Tok are staying across the street. And how she knew it Is one had taken a picture from the window and was pointing to our hotel. I mean, come on. And that's been like that since he was born. These kismet kind of magical things just kind of happen. So let the powers that be and me and my loud voice. I found someone that knew them, and they came over to the hotel to meet Nate.
Yes.
And they tried your jacket on.
Yes.
The designer gave him princess Jack.
Podcast Host
You got to keep princess jacket.
Nate
I do.
Podcast Host
Do you have it hanging up in your house somewhere?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Podcast Host
It's like on a shrine. I wore this. This is princess jacket.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Not at all. It's in the closet with all the other ones.
Nate
Yeah.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
And. But you used it when you were Elton John.
Yes.
Podcast Host
It was perfect costume for Halloween.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Perfect.
Yes.
Podcast Host
That is a good costume.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Or just any day you want to be Elton John.
Podcast Host
That is true. You could be out and drawn anything.
Nate
Right.
Podcast Host
Or Prince. Any day. You got to do the dance moves.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Do you have them?
Nate
I do not.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
You don't have the dance moves?
Nate
I do not.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
It's time you learn.
Nate
I think I should.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Okay. So these guys come over, and we loved them. They were there working for Dwayne Johnson the Rock and his energy drink. And they were trying to figure out what they needed to change the world. And they again turned to Nate and said, hey, we're doing this thing for this energy drink. What do you think it'll take to change the world?
Love.
Now it sounds kind of robotic sometimes, Nate. I'm not gonna lie.
Yes.
Because it's the answer for almost everything. What do you want for dinner? Love. No, there's. Make a sentence out of it. Try.
Nate
No. All I want for dinner is steak.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Okay. So, yeah, you're a liar. And lobster.
Podcast Host
And really anything.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
And pretty much anything.
Yes.
And alcohol. So the guys fell in love with him, clearly. And they started to cry because of the profound beauty in that word. And the way he delivered it was so real. So I came home literally the next day and said, we're starting a company, and that's within three days. We had a running Hawaiian shirt company, and then our first shirt was Be a good human, because that's something that came out of his mouth. And.
Yes.
Sold in our first year, 2 million. Wow. We're not there anymore, but we did sell our first year.
Podcast Host
That's incredible.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
It was unbelievable.
Podcast Host
And it all started because all you wanted to do is change the world with the word love.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Podcast Host
Why do you want to change the world?
Nate
Because I want to change the world with different abilities. What they can do.
Podcast Host
And do you want to remind people that you're human and you also just want to live life too?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Nate
I love people because they make my day.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
If they're nice.
Yes.
What do you do if they're not nice?
Nate
I don't know. Scroll on Facebook.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Scroll on no one's. Has anybody ever been mean to your face?
Nate
Sometimes.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
What do you do?
Nate
I ignore them.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Perfect.
Podcast Host
I wish we could all learn to ignore.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah.
Podcast Host
Mean people. That's a good quality trait.
Nate
It is.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
You're very empathetic, though.
You're deep.
Nate
I am.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah.
Podcast Host
And why Hawaiian shirts? Why was that?
Nate
The company, the Hawaiian shirts. I actually make the patterns and the colors.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah. He's a fashionista. Always was. I don't know where you get that from.
Nate
I don't know me, but.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
So he always dressed pretty or I should say I dressed him very flamboyantly because he loved it.
Nate
I do.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Day he'll put on a suit and tie just to go to the grocery store. He just loves fashion.
Nate
I do.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
So it was kind of a no brainer. Right. Wine shirts. And then what are we doing with the Hawaiian shirts? Do you remember that?
Nate
Oh, I do.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Nothing.
Nate
The way we're changing the way the others who perceive those with one funky shirt at a time.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah. We're changing the way people see those with disabilities.
Yes.
One funky shirt at a time.
Podcast Host
And a lot of your models I've seen on social media are also fellow people with disabilities or down syndrome. Right. Are those your friends or just people you find random on the Internet?
Nate
Both.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Okay. We just go up to people on the street. Yeah.
Podcast Host
Find them.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
But you know what's cool too? If you bought a shirt, please send us the photos. We love bragging. So I've always said just about Nate. Even though it started about Nate. I wanted again to change the world and change it to be a better place for him to live and. And to be accepted included. The awareness isn't there still.
Podcast Host
But why do you feel like the awareness still isn't there? What do you feel like we've not gotten? Right.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Wow.
Nate
Wow.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
There's so much. Where do I begin?
Podcast Host
What has world. That's the purpose. Right. You guys are so good at what you're doing.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah.
Podcast Host
And I think one of the things that Two things that we get lost when we see people with down syndrome. One is recognizing that they just are human and want to live their lives too.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah.
Podcast Host
And two, that we don't really consider them still normal. We consider them. Oh, there's something about them that's different instead of just saying we're just all people.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Good point. I like to say that kids with down syndrome are more alike than they're different. And that, I think, is such a loud statement to be made that when he was born. And they should have let me have a baby at birth, a baby boy, instead, they handed me a child with a Down syndrome diagnosis. That needs to change. I don't care if you have a cleft palate missing a limb. It's still a child. And I deserved, and so did my husband to celebrate that. So I always felt robbed of that moment. But we've made up for it. You've had some killer parties.
Nate
I do.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Especially your 21st.
Yeah.
Podcast Host
I have been seeing you having a great time in Nashville.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Podcast Host
A lot of alcoholic drinks are involved.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Podcast Host
Do you like alcohol?
Nate
I love it.
Podcast Host
What are some of your favorite things? Tell us. Like, alcohol parties. What do you like to do?
Nate
My favorite beers are actually Coors Light, Miller Light, and Budweiser.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Really?
Nate
And things. What I do for fun is making Tiktoks.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
That's true.
Nate
And spending time with my mom and my sister.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Don't forget your brothers.
Podcast Host
I was gonna say, don't you have some other siblings?
Nate
I do, but sometimes. No. Sometimes they're cranky for you. No.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
You're the crankiest.
Nate
No.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah.
Nate
I'm the most famous one.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
The most what?
Nate
Famous.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
We know.
Podcast Host
The most famous and the funniest.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
I don't know where he gets that from. I'll tell you where he gets that from.
Yeah.
You were raised on Saturday Night Live skit.
Yes.
Podcast Host
That's what you guys watched together?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Yes.
He loved them. He refused to watch the movies or anything Disney.
Yes.
He would watch Hours of Will Ferrell.
Yes.
Adam Sandler.
Yes.
And I think that's where he got his comedic timing, because people always say that, like, how is he? You must be telling him what to say. Clearly, I'm not.
Podcast Host
No, clearly. I think he's got a lot of wit about him. He's just clearly off the cuff.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
And that's another thing that the world hasn't gotten. He's funny. Why can't he be funny? He's beautiful.
Nate
Thank you.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Why can't he be handsome? So many things that we've taken away from kids with disabilities because we don't even consider you disabled, to be honest.
Nate
Right.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
I mean, what do you. What's different?
Nate
My eyes.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah. They're beautiful.
Nate
They are.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
And you're great at sports. Tell them about that.
Nate
I do basketball. I do golf. And bowling. And I'm really good at golf. I could beat you.
Podcast Host
I would bet you could beat me. I am terrible at golf.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
What if she doesn't play?
Nate
You're right.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah. Okay.
Podcast Host
You'll beat me. Even if I was good at golf. It's fine.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
It's got a lot of confidence. It definitely has a lot of confidence.
Podcast Host
You have so much confidence. Where does that come from?
Nate
Special Olympics. I actually do Special Olympics since I was 8 years old. And I love sports.
Podcast Host
Okay. And confidence just in everyday life. Because you seem to not care what people think.
Nate
Right.
Podcast Host
And you go online and you be exactly who you are. So where does that come from?
Nate
My mom, actually. Because my mom is special to me. She's like my favorite person.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
All right. I'll buy you something tonight.
Nate
Thank you.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
I was thinking about that the other day. Because he's truly freaking magical. How did he get this way? I'm not saying my other four aren't. If you're listening. I think you're all magical. But what is it? What is it? And I realized how the world could change. If you could love your child or your person unconditionally. Seven days a week. You will have nothing but confidence. All he hears all day is, I'm proud of you. I love you. Wow. That was amazing. Not. And it's not fake. It's real. But I think as a society, we find the flaws in others and kind of pay attention to that instead. I'm like. Your eyes are beautiful.
Nate
Thank you.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Great lips.
Nate
I do.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
I love your shorts.
Nate
Thank you.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
And it's not. It's real affirmations. But it's the deepest love. Like I. I say a lot when we speak. It's like Technicolor love. A love I had never had before. Something so profoundly deep of. Die for your family. This is different. It's so strong. And I think about you 24 hours a day, seven days a week.
Yes.
I miss you when you're gone for a couple hours.
Yeah.
And I think that's the confidence. It's just that you've been surrounded by love and unconditional love from your siblings. They don't think of them as a kid with down syndrome.
Nate
Huh?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Do they?
Nate
No.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Right. Because what does that even mean?
Nate
I don't know.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Exactly.
Podcast Host
And that's just. You're just their brother. That's the way that they see you.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Hot brother.
Yes.
Podcast Host
You're the hot brother. And the famous brother.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Podcast Host
And the funniest.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Podcast Host
I'm seeing a trend here.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah.
Okay.
Yes.
Podcast Host
You're also the favorite child.
Nate
I know I am.
Podcast Host
Mom's not going to admit that because she can't. But I have a sense.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
I have a feeling they think so, too, so it's okay.
Podcast Host
I'm also my dad's favorite child. Apparently, it gets talked about a lot, so I. I know that feeling. Yeah, but how do you feel getting to be the favorite child?
Nate
Because I am the best child in our house. Make you feel amazing? Loving. Because my mom is very special to me.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
You're so mean to me every day. I don't understand this.
Nate
What do you mean?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
The truth.
Podcast Host
Sometimes you have ups and downs just like everybody else.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah.
Podcast Host
And are those downs really far down? Because you are so happy all the time?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
No, you're not happy all the time. It's not realistic, you say.
Nate
Yeah.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Another thing, people. The misconceptions of kids with down syndrome. Yeah. They're definitely not happy all the time.
Nate
Huh.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
And you know what I'm gonna say? You probably don't know this about yourself. You're a quick crier.
Nate
Thank you.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
His emotions run so deep.
Nate
They do.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
So he will. I don't use the word obsess, but if something sad happens or bad, he can't forget it. And it's beautiful. And yet it pains me because I know he's in pain. But again, the depth of each child is different. The. Everybody's different on how they articulate, how they show, how they present and take everybody for who they are.
Yeah.
And then excel with what they're great at.
Yes.
Podcast Host
I like the agreement in all of this. I need to know, too, for you guys, when you guys are, like, hanging out at the house together and you spend a lot of time together, do you ever get annoyed of each other?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Yeah.
Yes.
When he was a. When he was little, it took a long time to talk. I don't even remember what age I had five kids.
Yeah.
And we'd bet, you know, like, God, please let him talk now. Nate. Shut up. Shut. Stop. Nate, stop.
Nate
I don't want to say this right now, but my mom eats in her bed.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Oh.
Podcast Host
And we find that not good.
Nate
No, it's not good. But you do look like a humanized Born. Actually.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Okay, here's the deal. I sleepwalk. Okay. I've been caught.
Yes.
And I eat.
Yeah.
I'm not happy about it. I know Sharon Osborne. I get that every day. So the other day we did Lindsay, I think, had a video, and at the end, he said, at least my mom looks like Sharon Osborne. And Sharon, bless her Heart reposted it. And then Kelly said, oh, my God, I love him.
Yes.
And then, unfortunately, two days later, Ozzy, he's in heaven.
Nate
Yeah. He passed away.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah.
Podcast Host
But that is a cool reference. Do you like the reference to being shared?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
No, not at all. Thank you.
Podcast Host
And it's all because of Nate that you are.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Yeah. No, Every drive thru person is like, oh, my God, are you Sharon Osborne? And at one of his fashion shows, actually, these two girls wanted to take a selfie with me. And I was like, why? Let's wait for Nate. Like, no, just you. And I was like, okay, that's weird, but okay. And then as they were walking away, they're like, sharon, we love you. Yeah. So I took a photo of myself, and then Sharon, I put it side by side and put it on the Internet. Everyone's like, yeah, doppelganger.
Podcast Host
I do see it. But, like, you don't like that, then I'm not gonna agree.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
It's okay. No, I mean, no, of course. She's a beautiful woman and she is who she is, but I just don't see it. I used to look like Bonnie Tyler.
Nate
No, no. Absolutely not.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
I don't even know who that is.
Nate
She's a singer.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Impressive.
Yes.
Podcast Host
Okay, Nate, what is it like for you when you get recognized? Because your mom was telling me, you being here in Nashville, you've been getting recognized a lot.
Nate
Yes, I love Nashville. I love country singers very.
Podcast Host
Who is your favorite country singers?
Nate
I don't want to say his name because I did a music video. Mark Wills.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah.
Podcast Host
Oh, yeah. Okay.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Big music video.
Yes.
Podcast Host
Was that cool to be on set of a music video?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Who was the other band?
Nate
Home free.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah.
Podcast Host
Love Home free.
Nate
They are in the acapella group. And.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
What was the name of the song?
Nate
Don't laugh at me.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Nice.
Podcast Host
They're really. Can you sing? Are you a singer?
Nate
I am a good singer. Let me.
Podcast Host
You want to sing something for us?
Nate
I do, but let me think. What's a good song? What do you think?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Mom, I think you shouldn't sing. I think we should just talk. There's no band. There's no nothing.
Nate
Really?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah. Are you okay with that?
Yes.
Okay.
Podcast Host
Okay. He was proud.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
You've got viewers, right? Is that the point?
Podcast Host
Yeah, I think. Listen, I love the karaoke. Do you like to do karaoke?
Nate
I love karaoke.
Podcast Host
What's your go to song for karaoke?
Nate
I'm gonna say Bruno Mars just the way you are.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Podcast Host
24K magic.
Nate
Oh, yeah.
Podcast Host
Okay, there we are.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Shallow. I Do we can probably play that at the end. And you can sing.
Yes.
Tell them who you did sing with, though.
Nate
Oh, I sing the lead singer with Creed.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Okay.
Podcast Host
That's awesome.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Not sing with the lead.
Podcast Host
Okay.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
That's Scott.
Podcast Host
Oh, Scott.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah. And I ran into his wife the other day. Like, I didn't know her. I. Life is crazy. And after our segment, she had hers anyway. No. Mark Tranti. Mark Tanti, who is the lead guitarist and a killer shredder, I've heard. Do you know what that means?
Nate
I do not.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Me neither.
Podcast Host
He can essentially, with his guitar, he can just go to town and just play all kinds of notes on a guitar. He can shred really hard.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Nicest man. And they happen to have a child with down syndrome. Her name is Stella, and. And she's only three. She's so beautiful. So we met them at an event, and this was the coolest thing. I didn't know who they were. Sorry. Creed. And they were like, nate the Great again. Huh? What? So then we ended up becoming friends.
Yes.
Invited over to their home.
Nate
Oh, yeah.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
And then he started teaching Nate couple things on the guitar. And Nate goes, I'd like to sing with you. And he goes, okay. So Nate got to sing a. Was it a Sinatra song?
Nate
A Frank Sinatra song with Mark in New York.
Podcast Host
That's incredible.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Gigantic event.
Yes.
Podcast Host
Did either of you guys ever see your life going this way?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Never.
Nate
Never.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah. You did. You always think you're famous.
Nate
I am.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah. Which. What does famous mean?
Nate
I have no idea.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah. It's kind of just a word, right?
Nate
It is.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Fame to some people means you've made it.
Yes.
People recognize you.
Yeah.
You haven't made it yet.
Nate
Right.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Because you're still living.
Nate
I am.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
So every day you just keep getting better and better.
Yes.
Podcast Host
You're pretty close, though. If you're getting recognized a bunch in Nashville, you're hanging out with Creed.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah.
Podcast Host
You're going on catwalks.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
You know, it's top.
Yeah.
Oh, I'm sorry. What else have you done that's maybe on Amazon Prime?
Nate
Oh, my movie is out.
Podcast Host
You're in a movie?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
What movie it is?
Nate
I win. It's about abilities and bullying.
Podcast Host
Okay. Can you tell me some more? Like, what'd you do in the movie?
Nate
So the movie, it's about different kids being a movie like me.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
So you were the lead.
Yes.
Podcast Host
You were the lead.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah.
Podcast Host
You guys just buried the lead there, by the way. That's a big deal, isn't that.
Nate
It is.
Podcast Host
That's awesome.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah.
Podcast Host
Okay.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
But one thing doesn't top the other, which is amazing. You don't. I mean, it's all so fascinating to watch.
Yes.
The director saw him on TikTok. Love that and wrote a script with him in mind.
Podcast Host
That's incredible.
Nate
It is.
Podcast Host
How did you feel acting?
Nate
I love acting. Acting is my favorite thing to do for fun. It is.
Podcast Host
Okay, what about between modeling, singing and acting? Where do they lay? If you had to rank them, I.
Nate
Will say acting is number one. Fame is number three.
Podcast Host
Fame. Okay.
Nate
And the last one, I think in the middle.
Podcast Host
Modeling is number two.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
We're coming up with this.
Podcast Host
Okay.
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Podcast Host
So we were in the break and Nate was like, I'm just texting my girlfriend from the movie. Nate, who are you texting?
Nate
Her name is Kayla. She played as Juliet Tanner in the movie. I win.
Podcast Host
Okay. And you were texting her. Is this one of your friends now?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Nate
She's my best friend since the movie, actually.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Really?
Nate
We actually talk about life.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
I did not know that.
Yes.
Nate
And she's one of my best friends.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
I love. She's beautiful too.
Nate
She is.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
What?
Nate
What was she just in Miss Teen Delaware?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
She won. Wow.
Yes.
Podcast Host
So, Nate, do you ever want to date? I see you go back and forth on social media a lot.
Nate
I do.
Podcast Host
So how do you feel?
Nate
I'm amazing. I actually want to date someone and I think I'm ready.
Podcast Host
Okay.
Nate
I know my mom's over here saying no, but it will happen.
Podcast Host
I would imagine that is because mom is protective.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Podcast Host
And just concerned. I want you to share your real. This is real life.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
I know, I know. Wow. How much do I want to say here? He may have just in the last couple days been offered a show about dating. So this has actually been a gigantic topic. So that's why it was so funny. Yeah, you brought that up. Let's be honest. When girls try to give you a kiss.
Right.
What's your reaction?
Nate
Yeah. No.
Podcast Host
Yeah, we don't like that.
Nate
No.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Grosses you out.
Nate
Right.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
And some days he likes women and men. He just loves to love.
Nate
I do.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
So I personally, as your mom.
Yes.
Don't think you're ready.
Nate
Right.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
You can follow any path you want. I'll be behind you.
Nate
No, I agree with you. 100.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
So now we don't want to date.
Nate
No.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
I do, but we do. Just no kissing. Yes, that's fine.
Podcast Host
And maybe dating as in learning seeing what you like, seeing what dating is all about. Have you ever been on a date?
Nate
I have not.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Okay. Yeah, not really. I mean, you hang out with girls, but it's not like he's got his best friend back home, has a girlfriend. And I was trying to explain to him. That would look like the same thing for him if he had a girlfriend. I'd be driving, I'd be the chauffeur, and you go to a movie, you do whatever.
Nate
Yeah.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
He just loves to be around people.
Nate
I do.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
I don't know if he's necessarily looking for love right now because I think he's so full of love from everybody and everything he does. And when you're ready, I'm with you 100, right. Seriously.
Podcast Host
Maybe you're so full of love that you don't need a full on relationship. You love regardless.
Nate
I do.
Podcast Host
It sounds like that is how you live your life in general too, with friendships as well.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Podcast Host
So is there this thought in your mind where you're like, no, it's okay. I don't need that.
Nate
I think so.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
He's a yes man. I just put it in his head and he'll be like, yeah, that's it. That's it. Okay. Remember Jimmy McDonald?
Nate
I do.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
He was about 50 when. When we met. He had down syndrome. Unfortunately, he's not with us any longer. He used to say, why would I settle with just one woman? I want to love all of them. And I thought, okay, we're gonna pick that up.
Nate
Yes.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
I feel the same way.
Nate
Yeah.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
I just think that right now he's so focused on friendships and learning about that. He just graduated school.
Nate
I did.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
How old are you?
Nate
I'm 22.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah.
Podcast Host
Excited.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
So, yeah. School, meaning he graduated high school and then he went on to what we refer to college. It was a four year occupational school.
Nate
It is.
Podcast Host
And what did you study?
Nate
What did I study? Mom.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
What did you do every day? That's what she means. Like what did you.
Nate
I actually do homework sometimes.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Okay, you're lying.
Podcast Host
Okay.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
You worked at a Starbucks.
Oh, yes.
You worked at one of the museums.
Yes.
So you learned tasks like every day. You learned laundry.
Yes.
You learned how to cook.
Yes.
What was one of the things you made?
Nate
Pineapple Salsa.
Podcast Host
Is this where the pineapple comes from?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Podcast Host
Also, not at all.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
No. That was after.
Podcast Host
See?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
See, you now can vouch for the fact that this is all him.
Nate
It is.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
No. But no one's telling him what to say.
Podcast Host
Yeah, okay.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
He's a nutball. No, you did culinary after we created the company.
Yes.
And now. And then it became the year of the pineapples. You know how, like right now it's the year of the cherries?
Podcast Host
Yes.
Nate
Oh, yeah.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
To the point of nauseam. I'm like, please no one buy me another pair of earrings with pineapples on them. I love you. Thank you. No. So you learned how to fold clothes.
Yes.
Do you bring that back to the house, do chores and stuff at home?
Never.
Nate
Never.
Podcast Host
Why don't you do chores at home?
Nate
Sometimes my parents get cranky to me, so they don't pay me.
Podcast Host
Oh, so it's because you're not getting paid that you don't do them. Now you know that you work for.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Them and you do on your own company. I do, but we have to get profitable again.
Nate
Okay, Will.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
And then you can make your salary.
Nate
Got it.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Fine. You gotta work harder.
Nate
I got you.
Podcast Host
And what do you do in the company?
Nate
I am the CEO. And what does CEO mean?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Chief Executive Officer.
Nate
And that's me.
Podcast Host
You're the man in charge?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Podcast Host
Do you help design a lot of the stuff that gets put out?
Nate
Yes, I do.
Podcast Host
Do you make the ulta. Are you the final decision?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Podcast Host
Okay.
Nate
I do.
Podcast Host
That's a big role.
Nate
It is.
Podcast Host
So how are you marketing? Are you doing your marketing on social media with your guys's accounts?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
You've got so many accounts, don't you?
Nate
I do.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
So many. One has recently taken off. I think it's Nate the Great and Lindsay. And he has so many celebrities following him now that again, you kids are young, so you. I don't even know who follows. I don't look. I don't know. And we'll get a text from his sister and be like, oh, my God, Cam from Modern Family just followed you. Or like I said, Sharon Osborne just reposted. It blows my Jennifer Gardner. Yeah, like, I love this kid. Blows my mind. But that's a part of what you said. What needs to change? Well, somebody sees him as a normal 22 year old and finds his video funny. They don't say when they repost. Check this kid with down syndrome out.
Nate
Yes.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Oh, my God, this kid Nate is so funny. And that's what we're trying to show the world. Your greatness.
Yes.
Everybody has a disability. Yes, everybody. I have more than most.
Nate
Right?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah. And yeah. Anyway. Gosh.
Podcast Host
And naked, you tell me to you, what makes you a normal person? Like through your eyes.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Oh, that's an interesting word, though. Normal.
Podcast Host
I know, and that's why I asked it. Because everybody sees you a certain way.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Podcast Host
But you probably feel who you are is just a normal human being.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Podcast Host
So what makes you feel like you're normal?
Nate
Because if I'm normal, I do normal things, Right?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah.
Nate
What do they do?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
You get up in the morning, brush your teeth.
Nate
I do.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah. Take a shower.
Yes.
Your heart's beating.
Yes.
Podcast Host
You text your friends?
Nate
I do.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah. You got.
Podcast Host
You have a. A beer.
Nate
Oh, yeah. I love beards.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Cuz how you couldn't wait to get be. What age?
Nate
21.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah. Where'd we go?
Nate
Las Vegas, baby.
Podcast Host
You went to Las Vegas for your 21st?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Podcast Host
What did you see in Las Vegas?
Nate
I don't want to say about strippers.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
You did not see strippers in Vegas. Did you want to see strippers in Vegas?
Nate
Exactly.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
I know.
Nate
No.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
You know, and I told him, like, I have to be honest, right? He's. Yeah, we need a break for the laughter.
Podcast Host
It was perfect.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
I'm like, nate, strippers get naked. He's gross. I don't want to see that. And then he goes, I'd like to see strippers with their clothes on. I'm like, then that would be a model. That's not a stripper.
Podcast Host
Yes.
Nate
Right?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah. But that's the beauty of the pureness. You know, he'd heard about girls, neon signs.
Nate
Right.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
And he does have three brothers.
Nate
I do.
Podcast Host
Okay. So you've learned some things from your brothers and from your sister.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Podcast Host
What is. What do you think makes you a good brother to your siblings?
Nate
If I'm a good brother to my siblings, they do so much for me. Everything. There are my happiness in my life.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
You must have taken a nice pill before we got here.
Nate
Yeah.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
What makes you, though, a good brother to them?
Nate
Sometimes I talk to them about life and beers.
Podcast Host
Beers. We come back to beers. I feel like you need a beer. Partnership. I feel like that is the next step.
Nate
Oh, my gosh, yes.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Oh, my gosh, yes. He's Bud Light man.
Yes.
Oh, my gosh. We never thought about that.
Nate
Yeah.
Podcast Host
Thank you.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
You're hired. That's all he talked about from when he was like, 12 is, I can't wait to be 21. And then the strippers came up, and I just want to see strippers. And then. Have you ever seen a stripper?
Nate
No.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Perfect. And then. Oh, that's not true. Do you guys know who. Trailer. What is it?
Podcast Host
Trailer.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Trailer trash.
Nate
Tammy, do you know who that is?
Podcast Host
That sounds Familiar.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
She's a comedian. She's here in Nashville, and she has a nudie calendar. Oh, that somebody peeked through.
Nate
I did.
Podcast Host
Oh. What?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Why did you keep advertising, though?
Podcast Host
Yeah, we didn't like that.
Nate
Never.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
No.
Nate
No.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah. She's got some large things happening.
Nate
Yeah.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah. So I'm like, please don't think other women look like that, Nate, because they don't.
Nate
Right.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah. Yeah. We all look different.
Podcast Host
And then this puts us back to the dating. This is why maybe.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Podcast Host
We aren't ready for dating. And that's okay.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
All right.
Podcast Host
That's okay. Do you have dating advice? I know you give dating advice.
Nate
I do.
Podcast Host
Okay.
Nate
But on the first date, you would never kiss.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Okay. I like that.
Podcast Host
Never kiss on the first date. Give me your five dating rules.
Nate
Got it. Number one, flowers.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Okay. What? What do you mean? You give them to her or you get them?
Nate
You give them.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Okay.
Nate
Number two, I will say you go to a movie theater, watch a great movie. Number three, go to the hotel and just lay down.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Okay.
Podcast Host
Which hotel exactly?
Nate
I don't know the name of it.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Okay. Let's go with the W. Okay. I think that's a nice one.
Yes.
Nate
Number four, I always say just go bowling.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Oh. After the hotel you've laid down. You take it.
Podcast Host
Now we go to the movie, and then we go to the hotel and we lay down.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Okay.
Podcast Host
Which, by the way, at the hotel, do we get a room or do we lay in the lobby?
Nate
They lay down in the lobby.
Podcast Host
In the lobby. Okay. Okay. And then we go.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Too cheap to buy a room.
Nate
Exactly. And number five, Getting a beer and to get lit.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Okay.
Podcast Host
Get a beer to get lit. This is your idea of a first date?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Podcast Host
And honorable mention. Do not kiss on the first date.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Yeah. Can you hold hands?
Yes.
Okay.
Podcast Host
Okay. So what about. That's dating?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Podcast Host
I'm in a newer relationship. What would you give me advice for in my new relationship?
Nate
Okay. On your first relationship, do not kiss.
Podcast Host
Okay. No kissing. This is a theme?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Podcast Host
Okay.
Nate
Just bring flowers. It's that easy. And be kind.
Podcast Host
Be kind is good. I like your dating advice anyway.
Nate
I am.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
You got women lined up?
Nate
I sure do.
Podcast Host
Do you know how to flirt? Is flirting part of your repertoire?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Nate
I love flirting. Oh, I got one right here.
Podcast Host
It's a move that would work on me.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Perfect.
Podcast Host
We might have to tell my boyfriend that somebody flirted with me today. Sorry.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah.
Yeah. I hope he's not jealous.
Nate
You're right. Yeah.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
I'm gonna get your girl.
Nate
I actually met a lot of celebrities.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Really?
Yes.
Nate
Lady Gaga.
Podcast Host
Lady Gaga. Okay.
Nate
The Yovon.
Podcast Host
Nice. I did see that one.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Did you? Yeah.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Top five funniest clips with Theo.
Podcast Host
Of course he did.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Theo, if you're out there, we need to have lunch.
Nate
Yes, please shout out. And this guy was on the new Footloose.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Oh, who's that?
Nate
Dennis Quaid.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
He. Yeah. We went to Hollywood a couple weeks ago and we're checking into the hotel and I get a FaceTime from his designer. So I answer it, I'm sweating and I'm got my bags with me, and I just was on a 300 hour flight and I, I, oh, hi, Jacob, the designer. And then he moves the phone. It's Dennis Quaid. So of course me being me, I go, dennis freaking Quaid.
Nate
Yeah.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
My face was like. I had, I don't know, seen a ghost. So I, of course somebody screenshotted me being like. So that's what Dennis got to see. You weren't with me, right? We tried to see him. He lives in Nashville.
Podcast Host
He does not hear country right now, but.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Oh, dang fan. Big fan.
Podcast Host
Big fan.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Who are you?
Podcast Host
Who are your top five of biggest fans?
Nate
I would say Garth Brooks.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Oh, you mean of like his people he thinks the most or that love him.
Podcast Host
You could do either. Okay, which route are you going?
Nate
Garth Brooks. Blake Shelton.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Okay, but you've met Garth. Brooke, you didn't meet Blake, did you?
Nate
I wanted to.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Okay.
Nate
And I really want to meet this really good singer. Oh, he has really good movies out. Jack Black.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Okay. Sing.
Yes.
Podcast Host
School of Rock.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Oh, my gosh. I'm sorry.
Podcast Host
You can't do that to Jack Black.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
I'm so sorry.
Yes.
Jack met Tanner.
Podcast Host
Yes.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Tanner is a fella on Is it Love on the Spectrum.
Podcast Host
Correct. Yeah.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
We're sending Tanner some merch. I just talked to his mom, so we're super excited.
Podcast Host
That's awesome.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
But I never showed you that clip. You will be so jealous.
Yeah.
Podcast Host
He got a hug. Jack Black.
Nate
Yeah.
Podcast Host
But those are your top three. Who you would want to meet.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
That's it. Not two more.
Nate
I actually do. Okay.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Who?
Nate
Let me think.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Who do I love?
Nate
Who do you love? Pink.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah, but no, who do you love? Who do you keep saying you're gonna take from me if he ever comes?
Nate
Travis. Kelsey. Oh, he is sexy.
Podcast Host
You know what? I agree with you.
Nate
Yes.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Quit saying you want him. I want.
Nate
He might be my husband.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
No, Travis.
Podcast Host
Kelsey, you're gonna get fought over if you go into this household.
Nate
Oh, yeah.
Podcast Host
Okay. And your fifth one.
Nate
Okay, my fifth one. Let me think. Actually, this is a hard one. Who is it you love every I.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Don'T have any idea.
Nate
You don't? Adele.
Podcast Host
Ooh, Adele.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
That's a great one. She's got a killer voice. We love everybody though. We do Very blessed.
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Okay, so you've met all these people. You've got to do a lot of these cool things. What's been your favorite part? Say, from starting the company to this point right now? What has been your favorite part?
Nate
I always say starting my own company.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Nate
So 21 pineapples. It's a great company. And I made Hawaiian shirts, tumblers, hoodies, and everything. Everything.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
How many. What happened the other night when you went out to a bar here in Nashville with your sister?
Nate
I got recognized again and that.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
But what. What happened? Do you even know you sold five Hawaiians that night?
Podcast Host
Yes, I lost marketing.
Nate
I am.
Podcast Host
Do you hand out your card to people?
Nate
Yes, I do.
Podcast Host
And you're like, go buy a shirt. Yes, I'm gonna need one of those so I can go buy a shirt I got you. Well, they fit. Women's or they just for men?
Nate
Both.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Okay. Sex. We have T shirts, too. Yes, we got a lot of stuff.
Nate
You do.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
I've never met a better salesman. Oh, I believe.
Podcast Host
I believe it.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Oh, my gosh. Yeah, because, you know, we're talking about earlier. The filter's gone. That fear that we all have to approach somebody or to be vulnerable. The beauty is. I don't think you have that right. Sometimes you hesitate, you know? But if you get encouraged, Nate, you can do it. You can do it. He will. And believe me, we've had nothing but a beautiful receptions back.
Podcast Host
Are you afraid of anything? Is there anything you're afraid of?
Nate
I'm afraid of wigs, dolls, and clowns.
Podcast Host
There is a theme there. I see it.
Nate
Okay, that's it.
Podcast Host
Has something happened with wigs, dolls, or clowns?
Nate
Actually, I wore a wig before I was facing my fear.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah. I was impressed.
Yes.
But then it came back.
Yeah.
People want to think I am a breast cancer survivor.
Nate
Oh, yeah.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
So people want to think it's because of that I had all these wigs. It's not true. He. What did you have when you were young? Do you remember what that was called?
Nate
I do not.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Pica.
Nate
Huh.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
And pica is where you eat things that you aren't supposed to eat. And your flavor of choice was fuzz.
Podcast Host
Oh, that Makes a lot of sense.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah. So the texture of a wig just freaked him out. I don't know. I don't get it.
Podcast Host
When did that go away?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
It's not. It's still there.
Podcast Host
It's still there.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
So if we want to traumatize them, we'll take a wig and just run around the house with it and chase them. That's what my boys will do to.
Nate
Yeah.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Entertain themselves.
Nate
Yeah.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
He can't go near one. I can't touch it.
Podcast Host
But he doesn't still eat, does he? That went away.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Are we done with eating fuzz?
Nate
No.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
You're still eating it.
Nate
Yep.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
No, you're not. We couldn't even have a Santa hat in our house. Who would eat the insides of the ball? And the carpets? Emma. It's such a strange thing, but it's a common thing.
Nate
It is.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah.
Podcast Host
I have seen lots of stories about this.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Right.
Podcast Host
And to you, it tastes good.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Really?
Yep.
Did it have a flavor?
Nate
Only ketchup. I actually ate bird poo.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Oh, my God. You did.
Podcast Host
I like the realization of mom and.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Son right here, where it has traumatized one of my best friends who was with us.
Yes.
Yeah.
Podcast Host
When he.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
He brings it up all the time to get her. He know. Because he knows it's a trigger for her.
Nate
Right.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
So he'll be like, do you remember the time I ate bird poop? And she's like, why do you do this to me? Of course I remember. I was there. Yeah. He loves sticking it to people.
Nate
I do.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah.
Podcast Host
Are you a bit of a prankster?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Podcast Host
What is your favorite prank to pull on people?
Nate
Only jokes.
Podcast Host
Just jokes?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Podcast Host
Like corny jokes. Do you have a good corny joke?
Nate
I actually do.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Oh.
Nate
What time do you go to the dentist?
Podcast Host
What time?
Nate
Tooth hurting?
Podcast Host
Oh.
Nate
Yeah.
Podcast Host
Okay. I need. Can you give me another one? Do you have another one on deck?
Nate
I do not.
Podcast Host
And that's just one.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Okay.
Podcast Host
I got one for you.
Nate
Got it.
Podcast Host
What do you call a nosy pepper?
Nate
I don't know.
Podcast Host
Guess. Holl up. In your business.
Nate
Oh, my God. That's a good one.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
I don't get it.
Nate
That's a good one.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
I don't think I got it.
Yeah.
Get up. Hella in your business.
Podcast Host
Jalapeno business.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Oh, yes.
Podcast Host
Maybe my delivery was wrong. He can deliver better.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Podcast Host
That's okay.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Or Mom's not with it.
Yeah.
Which is what you'd like to say. That's hysterical.
Nate
Eating in bed is not good.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Okay, enough.
Podcast Host
We came back to that.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Always. Because. Again. Okay.
Podcast Host
We're Very good at the. Sticking it to it.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
I don't want to.
Nate
Maybe from now on I'm going to hide camera £50.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
You know what? That wouldn't. Might be not a bad idea.
Nate
Right?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah, it's.
Podcast Host
I'm curious. You say he sticks it to him. Does he point out a lot of your flaws?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Every one of them?
Yes.
Every single. And sometimes it'll come a jab and then a compliment like, ah, you look kind of fat. Oh, you look. But you look pretty. And you're like. It's like always double handed. He doesn't have a mean bone in his body. He wants to be funny. I think that's truly his goal. I think he loves getting people to laugh without even knowing it. You know, someone just asked me on social media, does he know how funny he is? No, I don't think so. I think he knows he can bring funny to someone, but I don't think he realizes just how clever and sharp he is.
Yeah. Yes.
Podcast Host
Seriously, your next thing that you attempt.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
That's why I'm calling out what's his name again? Theo.
Theo.
You need him on your show?
Yes, please.
I know.
Podcast Host
Nate, what is your favorite things about your mom?
Nate
I can't say the rest because it's not good.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
No good things. Yeah.
Podcast Host
What do you like about your mom?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Oi.
Nate
Her hair.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Why? Because you like mullets?
Nate
Sometimes her eyes. Her eyes sparkle to me. There's. Okay. There's one important thing about my mom that I have not said this before and since I was born. I love you through my heart and out. You will always be my closest friend. I will always love you.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
I'm gonna cry.
Podcast Host
Yeah, I'm gonna cry. I'm really glad I gotta be here for that.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
I think you should write for Hallmark.
Podcast Host
Oh, yeah. You could totally write even Hallmark cards.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Podcast Host
That would be fun.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Thank you, Nate.
Nate
You're welcome home for me.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
I do not usually can spit one out.
Nate
Okay, fine. Roses are red, rabbits are blue. You could be a villain. But sometimes you are.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
I just.
Podcast Host
You know what, Nate? I really appreciate that we went from loving her through everything, your heart and soul, to yes, you are a villain.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
What's a villain?
Nate
You don't know what a villain is?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
No.
Nate
Something bad about you?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
What do I do that's so bad?
Eat in bed.
Nate
Too much.
Podcast Host
Okay.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Pounds it.
Podcast Host
What do you. Is there certain things you don't like, just in general?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Nate
About my mom.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Podcast Host
Not about your mom.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Ouch.
Nate
Oh, no.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Keep it going. I got a thick skin. It's okay. Not like I haven't heard it before.
Yeah.
It's a daily thing.
Podcast Host
What about just people in general? Or people get icks and they think something is gross, and they're like, oh, that's a. I don't like that about that person. What are your icks?
Nate
Wow. About my sister Lindsay. I have. Okay. No, I have lots.
Podcast Host
I appreciate that. We just got.
Nate
We have lots because when I went to her bathroom. Oh, boy, she has hair.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah, she does.
Nate
In her shower.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
I saw it.
Nate
It's disgusting. It's like my mom's wigs, actually.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Okay. I went in to look after you said that to me the other day.
Yes.
And there was a clump of hair in there.
Nate
I'm not gonna lie.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Okay, so that's a nick.
Nate
Right?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Okay.
Podcast Host
Clumps of hair. That's. I think most men feel that is a nick.
Nate
Right.
Podcast Host
Understandable.
Nate
If you, like. If you find a man going out in the shower with you, don't do that.
Podcast Host
Don't have clumps of hair.
Nate
Right.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Women and men shower together.
Nate
What do you mean?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
You said, if you're a man. What are you talking about?
Nate
I don't know.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Lindsay's shower.
Nate
I have no idea.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Exactly. Got a dirty mind.
Nate
I sure do. But sometimes I could be a lesbian.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah, we went through that phase.
Podcast Host
We like the juxtaposition. Variety is good.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
We would go around Chicago. He was young, and these were the times we were like, can you please stop talking? And he would just go up to random strangers and be like, I'm a lesbian. And then once he was old enough to understand what that meant, I sat him down. I'm like, hey, Nate, that's cool and all, but you can't be. So then we were at a restaurant in Chicago. He was sitting with a bunch of policemen in the back. And all of a sudden, and I'm with my girlfriend up in front, and the policeman yells out. And he goes, hey, Holly, I just heard. You're the lesbian. And my girlfriend's like, oh, this is going to be great for me to find somebody now. And so then I'm like, nate, I'm not. Your dad does not appreciate that at all. Learn some new stick. So he was funny. Out of the womb. And then after that, stopped. Because I'm like, that's just not funny. What did you say to people?
Nate
Strangers finding my birth parents.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
I'm looking for my birth parents. I'm standing right there.
Nate
Yeah.
Podcast Host
At least you've always been entertained.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
But that's the cool part. Like, where did you get that? But then I'd see, like, he'd do the Anita more Pepper from Saturday Night Live, that dirty one. And I'm like, oh, gosh, it's the Saturday Night Live videos. Like, I've left him too long in the room alone.
Yeah.
And he'll put his own twist on it.
Nate
I remember.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah. We just have to be careful that you don't say anything inappropriate.
Nate
Right.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
You know?
Yeah.
Okay. We love lesbians, by the way.
Nate
Thanks.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Okay. Sure. You're thankful for. But okay.
Yeah.
Podcast Host
I love to end. I think I could sit here and talk to you guys all day, but I know you have beers to drink and places to be.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Podcast Host
So what I like to end my podcast on is always a piece of advice or inspiration or motivation and not an away from your company. Because don't worry, we'll plug that. We'll do all of that. But I want to know from you guys, each of you, to share something in that realm. It can be inspirational motivational advice you want to give people.
Nate
Okay. Can it be my brother or no?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Let's see what you have to say first.
Nate
Okay. It's going to be inspiration one. So my brother Nick, he got married to another beautiful lady. Her name is Taylor. I think they are a beautiful couple. I am so proud of them. My brother Nick is very loved by others, like. And I am a really good brother to him. And sometimes I could be cranky to him.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
I don't think you understand questions.
Nate
Right.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yeah. It always turns out to be something weird.
Podcast Host
That's okay. Here, we'll try this again. Okay.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Podcast Host
To all the people that are listening to this, what would you want them to know that fits under the realm of you want to inspire them. Just like you said. You want to change the world with love.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Podcast Host
Or with telling them, hey, I started my own company.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Podcast Host
And you see me as a kid with down syndrome. I see myself as a CEO.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Podcast Host
Something in one of those realms. What would you tell to all the people that are listening?
Nate
I want people to listen about how I'm saying our things are right. Like seeing. Like, if I have one word to describe you, mom, we'd be loving. Because you mean a lot to me and you are my personal gift.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Wow.
Yes.
Personal gifts.
Podcast Host
Hey, mom, are you taking notes?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Because this is some good stuff. Stuff. I think what you're trying to say is.
Yes.
Just love. To love.
Nate
I do.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
And people should learn to love. To love.
Yes.
Right.
Nate
Be a good human.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Be a good human.
Podcast Host
Be a good human. And why should people be A good human.
Nate
It's that easy. It's just brightening up their days.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
I love that.
Yes.
I think we got a new shirt coming.
Nate
You do?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Okay, my turn.
Nate
Go ahead.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
I never thought in a million years that this would be my life. Ever. When Nate was born 22 years ago, it changed the entire trajectory of my life. So for all those that are facing change, I also am a cancer survivor. So hardship or just the unknown, I want you to embrace it and accept that it is what it is. And once you learn to accept it, whatever it is, your life will change and you'll see it in a more beautiful, clear light. Lose the fear. Embrace the good. And I'm going to tell you something. Down syndrome is the best gift I've ever had in my entire life, and I would wish it upon anyone.
Podcast Host
Nate, how does that make you feel?
Nate
Amazing.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
I got myself chills.
Podcast Host
I got two.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Literally, like, wow, Holly, you're so profound. You freaked out yourself.
Podcast Host
Yeah, I love that. Holly, Nate. Thank you guys both for joining me today, talking about everything. Please go check out their company, make Nate a millionaire so he can keep being famous and model and singing stuff. What's the name of your company?
Nate
21 pineapples.
Podcast Host
And go get yourself a shirt. A tumbler?
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Yes.
Podcast Host
A Hawaiian shirt. Specifically, yes would be really cool.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
What are you gonna buy when you profit?
Nate
A golf cart and girls.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Okay, we don't pay for girls, but.
Podcast Host
Okay, that comes back to strippers. And that is where we end. So I love this for us. Thank you guys both for being here. It's great to have you.
Holly (Nate's Mom)
Thank you so much for having us, Truly. Thank you.
Podcast Host
I don't know about you guys, but Nate's advice is hitting a little close to home. Make sure you check out their website, 21pineapples.com to get your fun Hawaiian shirts for an incredible cause. And of course, follow them on social media and all the good things. You can watch their funny videos. It'll give you so many different good laughs at 21 Pineapples Shirt Company. As always, I'm so happy you're here and you're listening to this podcast. I hope you got all kinds of emotions out of this episode and I can't wait to talk to you guys next week.
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The Bobby Bones Show — August 24, 2025
Host: Morgan Huelsman (Premiere Networks)
Guests: Holly (Nate's mom) and Nate ("Nate the Great")
Company: 21 Pineapples
This episode highlights the uplifting and humorous journey of Nate, a young man with Down syndrome, and his mother, Holly, as they share how Nate went from receiving sympathy at birth to becoming the CEO of 21 Pineapples—a clothing brand changing the narrative on disability. Through candid conversation, laughter, and unfiltered honesty, the pair discuss reshaping societal perceptions, building an inclusive company, loving fearlessly, and living authentically. The episode is filled with heartwarming moments, genuine advice, and a celebration of embracing what makes us all unique.
Name Meaning: The "21" refers to the 21st chromosome (the cause of Down syndrome); pineapples are symbols of welcome and acceptance.
Birth Experience: Holly discusses the negative and apologetic response she received from medical staff after Nate's birth, fueling her drive to advocate and celebrate children with Down syndrome.
Initial Advocacy: Holly’s early work involved hospital and school outreach, encouraging people to congratulate parents rather than offer sympathy.
TikTok Origins: Nate and Holly’s first video, featuring Nate’s answer to "What will it take to change the world?"—“Love”—struck a chord and went viral.
Intentional Representation: Holly was cautious not to exploit Nate but wanted to showcase his spirit, humor, and abilities.
Modeling for Big Names: Nate has modeled for designer Jacob Meir, whose clients include Lady Gaga and Madonna.
Viral Encounters: Social media led to "magical" encounters, like meeting major TikTok influencers and other celebrities.
Launch Story: Inspired by a spontaneous moment after a moving social encounter, Holly and Nate started 21 Pineapples, with the first shirt reading "Be a good human."
Sales Success: The company sold $2 million in its first year.
Mission: Representation and normalization—most models for their Hawaiian shirts have Down syndrome or other disabilities.
Awareness Gaps: Holly notes society's progress is slow and discusses the need for deeper celebration and inclusion.
Sense of Humor & Personality: Nate’s comedic timing comes from watching Saturday Night Live, with free-spirited, witty exchanges throughout.
Sports and Confidence: Nate is active in Special Olympics, attributing his confidence to unconditional family support.
Honest Emotions: Both discuss misconceptions—Nate is not happy all the time, but deeply empathetic and a "quick crier" when hurt.
Sibling Dynamics: Playful ribbing about being the "favorite child" and family quirks.
Projects:
Celebrity Interactions: Lady Gaga, Theo Von, Dennis Quaid, Garth Brooks, and mentions of aspiring to meet Travis Kelce and Adele.
Dating Talk: Discussion on relationships, with comedic and sincere rules from Nate.
Romantic Relationships: Candid chat about readiness, boundaries, and being full of love regardless of relationship status.
Living "Normal": Nate outlines feeling normal by living a regular life—sleep, hygiene, texting friends, enjoying beer. [35:09–35:31]
Company Role: Nate is hands-on as CEO, involved in design, final decisions, and marketing. [33:25–34:42]
Fears & Quirks: Nate fears wigs, dolls, and clowns due to childhood sensory issues (pica) and the texture of "fuzz."
Jokes & Pranks: Nate's humor shines with classic jokes ("What time do you go to the dentist? Tooth-hurty!") [49:00–49:03], and his love for gentle pranks and pointing out family "flaws" with honesty wrapped in affection.
On Perspective at Birth
On Changing the World
On Confidence and Family Support
On Humor and Identity
Advice and Inspiration
On Their Mission
On Fame
The conversation maintains a mix of uplifting energy, candid honesty, and playful humor. Holly and Nate bounce between laugh-out-loud stories, heartfelt admissions, and impactful advocacy, all with the tone of a loving, close-knit family who invite listeners to see beyond disability and embrace humanity.
Website: 21pineapples.com
Instagram/TikTok: @21pineapplesshirtcompany
Watch: Nate in the movie I Win (Amazon Prime)
“Be a good human. It’s that easy. Brighten up their days.”
— Nate [57:15–57:20]