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Hello and welcome back to Movie Mike's Movie Podcast. I'm your host, Movie Mike, and today I'm Sitting down with Tom Baznan and Tim Key. They are the stars and writers of the Ballad of Wallace island, which is a fantastic movie in theaters right now. We'll talk about all that went into making that movie and why you should be supporting independent films like this right now. Some great music in it, some great comedy. In the movie review, we'll be talking about Snow White, which is getting dragged through the mud right now. People calling it the worst liveaction Disney movie of all time. I might be defending it a little bit, but we'll get into that and then we'll keep the theme alive in the trailer park. We'll talk about the Freakier Friday trailer which which has Lindsay Lohan and Jam Lee Curtis returning this summer. Thank you for being here. Thank you for being subscribed. Shout out to the Monday Morning Movie Crew. And now let's talk movies from the Nashville Podcast Network.
Tim Key
This is Movie Mike's Movie Podcast.
Mike
Batting into my conversation with Tim Key and Tom Basden. They are the stars of the Ballad of Wallace Island. Not only did they star in the movie, they also wrote it. It started as a short way back when and now is a full length feature out in theaters right now and I highly recommend it. It's about Tim Key's character, who is this super fan of a group called Maguire and Mortimer. They are a duo. Tom Basden, who sits down with me in this interview, is the male in the duo. And then Carey Mulligan is the female in the duo. And they were a really big deal back in the late 2000s, early 2010s. They were like together. There's some romantic tension and then the duo broke up and haven't seen each other since. But this guy won the lottery. He is a super fan, kind of weird. So he invites them to come play his island for a lot of money and that is the first time they reunite. They get hired to play this show, but can they pull it off? The movie is a mix of comedy music and has some really heartfelt moments. I found this movie to really resonate with me because I am oddly nostalgic for music of the 2000s, particularly indie music of the 2000s, which anytime I hear an acoustic guitar and some mellow music and mellow lyrics, that takes me back to college. But Tim and Tom are from the uk. They've been in the US touring this movie, going around to screenings, telling people about it. And I just think it's really great that a movie like this can be made right now. So let's get into it now. My conversation with Tim Key and Tom Bazdin, the stars of the Ballad of Wallace island, sitting down with them in my favorite theater in Nashville, the Bell Court. If I said Bob Barker, would you get the reference?
Tim Key
Okay.
Tom Basden
Yeah. Well, only because he beat up Adam Sander.
Mike
I don't know who he is.
Tim Key
Yeah, I liked our conversation about Bob Barker.
Mike
Yeah, we're going. To those listening or to those watching, we are holding really long microphones. That is the Bob Barker reference. Oh, is it? You guys being from the uk, I wondered like, does Bob Barker get over there?
Tim Key
No. Well, no, but there is a guy in. In the UK who has a longer microphone than this.
Mike
Longer than this?
Tom Basden
Yeah, he's not around anymore.
Tim Key
We're not messing around in the uk.
Mike
It just goes straight. Like it's long. Give me the longest microphone you can find.
Tim Key
Terry Wogan. It's longer and it's thinner.
Mike
Okay, I'm gonna go Google area.
Narrator
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Tim Key
Really?
Mike
Sure.
Tom Basden
Freddie Mercury used to perform with a microphone on the stand that didn't touch the ground.
Tim Key
No, it's a different thing.
Tom Basden
So it'd be like a kind of four foot long stand that he would hold.
Tim Key
No, no, that doesn't. That doesn't connect.
Tom Basden
Doesn't connect with the conversation at all.
Mike
Does it feel weird to you guys that I feel like I know each of you after watching this movie?
Tim Key
I think that's terrible because my character's quite specific in the movie.
Mike
That's what I wanted to know. How much, how much of yourself did you put into each of your characters at all?
Tim Key
Well, I'm zero, but do you want to.
Tom Basden
I think there's a huge amount of Tim in Charles and there's a fair bit of me and Herb, I would say.
Tim Key
He was asked this last night and I thought, we haven't talked about this, but that was an incredible insight when he said that his character is 17 year old himself and my character is his mother at the time. And I think it's. I know his mother. Love his mother to pieces, but yeah, I can see there's a lot of his mother in my character.
Mike
Now. You guys both have a background in comedy, which I've toured doing stand up. The thing about doing stand up is you get an immediate reaction, you know, if a joke is good or not, based on how the audience responds when you put out a movie. What is that like now when the movie's coming out? People are starting to watch it. You're starting to hear rumblings of reviews. How is that different from that instant Comedy approach.
Tim Key
It's totally different and kind of mind blowing. We did, we did. The first time we saw the film was in Sundance. And I think with any kind of new stand up show, it just starts as a tiny acorn in front of 30 or 40 people and gradually grows and you gradually work out what works and what doesn't and improve it and get it better and better. By the end of it, you might be playing to quite a big room, but with complete assurance that everything sort of works. Whereas with this, we didn't have any screenings at all. We didn't know what exactly we had. We knew we liked it, but we didn't know exactly how much would sort of grow to be more affectionate of our own movie. The first time we saw it was in front of 1400 people. And it's kind of petrifying because, you know, you could be sitting. It could be a very long hour and a half. You know, you're waiting in that first 90 seconds to see whether this movie can create any kind of a connection with an audience. You hope it will, but yeah, that is the difference. There's no. You get everything all at once right at the end when all of the work has been done and you're just sort of praying that people will like it.
Mike
And how does that feel, watching yourself back for the first time at Sundance, seeing like, oh, like, that's my performance. I'm seeing people reacting here, like, are they good? Is this emotion going to come across?
Tom Basden
I mean, it's, it's, yeah, it's really exciting. And I mean, I always just found it very moving when I was watching it Sundance, I don't like watching stuff that I'm in very much.
Tim Key
Yeah, yeah. If you see his body of work.
Mike
Isn'T that weird though, in the creative space where it almost feels weird to take in your own work, something you work so hard on. And you're like, if I sit around listening to my own jokes or watching my own movies, it feels like I'm self absorbed here. But it's like, I'm proud of this.
Tom Basden
But I don't know if it's self absorption as much as you just want to sort of. You just want to focus on the thing that you're working on in a way. And once you've done it and you've finished it, it's lovely to talk about it and it's lovely to sort of see people enjoying it. But in a way it can be quite torturous to watch stuff and go, oh, that could have been a Bit better. I could have done that there or I could have, you know, And I think that's what's funny about when we watch the film now, because we both come from comedy. I think it's actually a really good thing that we didn't watch it with audiences at a point where we had the chance to go back into the edit, because I think we'd have put some jokes back in, is the truth. I think when you watch it with an audience and they start laughing, you go, oh, they would have loved that joke. And they would have loved that joke that we cut. And you forget that. Actually what you're doing is you're crafting a story that's got to be sort of coherent and it's got to have a certain pace and rhythm to it. And if you start cramming it with jokes because you can tell that the audience likes certain jokes, you then balance the whole thing. So actually, I'm very glad that we didn't get the chance to. To fiddle with the film after people had seen it.
Tim Key
We might have been quite greedy and self sabotaging, but our director is very. He's got a very good eye for it and a very good. He's more. He's wiser than us and sort of knows that actually if we get to a certain point in the movie by, you know, 80 minutes, then that would just be much, much better for the movie. And so it doesn't help if us two are saying, be great to have a decent joke about a vacuum cleaner after five minutes.
Mike
Mo. So going in, like, the filming process, talking about like, oh, we would have changed some things. Was everything that's in the movie exactly what was on the page?
Tom Basden
No, no, but, you know, a fair bit of it. I think there's obviously, you know, you can tell watching it. I think that there's a fair bit of improv, particularly in that first act between Herb and Charles. You know, there's scenes where they go quite loose and we sort of play around a bit, but a lot of it is pretty, you know, it's pretty tightly written and we wanted to kind of. We wanted to be able to sort of drive the story on at certain times in the film and didn't want it to feel loose at all. So, you know, in the edit, you're kind of trying to calibrate when you. When you want little periods that feel quite meandering and feel quite characterful, but nothing's much is happening. And periods when suddenly you go through the gears and a lot happens in the Space of five or ten minutes.
Tim Key
I'd say most of the improv is. A lot of the improv is. Instead of a little interaction that's two lines long, those lines might just get chopped into five bits and just happen really, really quickly. More like what a conversation would be like. So you get. I think, yeah, if it was written like that, it would be so weird on the page, I think. So we know exactly what we want to say. And then after we've done it a couple of takes, maybe it then becomes a little bit more detailed.
Tom Basden
I think that's true. I think. I think it's. It's like a blueprint for us that we stick to pretty closely. But we. We couldn't. Other actors couldn't do it because it's not like we say the exact words as they're written because it just wouldn't kind of feel right.
Tim Key
But then when the other actors come in, they can do it because they're just really good at acting.
Tom Basden
Yeah, that's true.
Tim Key
It's not like Carey Mulligan is kind of going, now, how on earth are you doing this?
Mike
That brings me to my next question. With the scenes with Carrie and you, petrifying, figuring out the songs, you know, reuniting after all this time, how much of that was actually you two learning those songs for the first time?
Tom Basden
I mean, you're very perceptive.
Mike
Like, it was.
Tim Key
To what extent hadn't you prepared for that scene?
Tom Basden
We hadn't had a lot of time. The mad thing was that Carrie turned up the evening before she started shooting and she brought her baby, who was a few weeks old, maybe, what, seven, eight weeks old. And, you know, and as soon as she was there, she threw herself into it. And we, you know, was very happy to kind of talk through character and rehearse some stuff and try out the songs and all these things. But we didn't have a lot of time and we just had to kind of go with our gut a little bit and what felt right and just, you know, as you say, hope that you can organically create an atmosphere as two actors that feels very, very close to what the two characters are doing. And I think. I think we did do that, but it's a risk, you know, you don't quite know what you're going to get. But that's. That is what's sort of lovely about it, I think, for us, and was particularly nice during the shooting was. It was. It was a genuine surprise to all of the crew and to Tim. Like, when we started playing songs in Front of him. You'd never heard us play songs before.
Tim Key
No. So that's that first time you see my character listening to their music. That's also the first time my nature's character, my character in real life. Me. Yeah, yeah, I. Is the one I'm looking for. The first time I had heard it as well.
Mike
That is the moment that hit me the most emotionally. Seeing you react to your love.
Tim Key
Yeah.
Mike
In the. In the first moment when you hear it and then also at the concert performance. Where do you go to there? Because I could feel the backstory of your character come out of what's. What he's been through. But where do you go to as an actor to get that performance?
Tim Key
Yeah, well, I don't know. I mean, actually that first time where I see them around the dinner table, I think there's a lot going on. I feel like for me and Tom, that we are. We are quite kind of passionate about this project. It's taken a long time to come to fruition. I think all of that is going into it. So when they're. When they're singing, I loved hearing them sing. But also there's a slight pinch yourself moment that you're. The movie is being made and that Carey Mulligan is in front of you singing with your pal. And the music's so nice. And I think it was a real moment for all of us where the crew were really invested. We were shooting it really quickly. Probably only did that take about that. That scene about two or three times. And Griff, the director is like behind the camera. Just. You can see that he's kind of like welling up. It's kind of a moment for. For all of us. So, yeah, there wasn't really a great deal of acting. It's just sort of. This is. It was quite a moving moment. I wasn't. I wasn't. I wasn't drawing on other times where, you know, beloved folk duo's had sung to me. This is insane that this is happening. So it kind of came. I think if it was hard to draw emotion, I think I'd struggle. It sort of came quite naturally.
Mike
Can you guys speak on that a little bit? Because I don't think people realize not only how hard it is to get a movie greenlit, how hard it is to get a movie made, but to get a movie in theaters and to be here, sitting here today talking about that, like hearing you reflecting on that moment on the set, which is huge.
Tim Key
Yeah.
Mike
Like, how important is it to support a movie like this?
Tom Basden
Well, I Think it's vitally important. And I think it's been so lovely for us to go to screenings this last week and see these full cinemas of people just really enjoying it, but also genuinely, you know, surprised by this story that they knew nothing about. And going into a cinema completely blind, you know, not seeing a reboot or a sequel or something that they kind of know what it is. After five minutes, they're seeing a completely new story and just going with it, just being taken up by it and being carried along by the other people in the room. And there's something that's just magical about that. And, you know, I'm quite greedy for it. I think having seen it, you know, experienced it the last few days, I just feel like I just. Just really want everyone to see it that way.
Tim Key
Yeah, yeah. I think. I think we don't take it for granted. I think, you know, we do lots of different things in lots of different areas, live and tv. And I think you sort of know when you. In doing this one, that we've kind of. Something is connecting and I feel very lucky that, I mean, this could not see the light of day. We could make a. Obviously, the first thing is no one could have filmed it because no one likes the script. Once it's filmed, there's a chance it's a movie which not many people see. So to see it playing in a cinema is kind of. I don't think we take it for granted. No, I don't think we do take it for granted.
Tom Basden
Of course not.
Tim Key
You know, it may never happen again for us.
Mike
So I think. I love the movie and a great movie inspires you to do something. Do the numbers 7, 11, 18, 27, 45, 48, 47, 48 mean anything to you?
Tom Basden
Our lucky numbers.
Mike
They're the lucky number. Where did those originate from?
Tim Key
It's a great question.
Tom Basden
What do you mean, why did we pick them?
Mike
Yeah, why did you pick those?
Tom Basden
But you went and bought a lottery ticket, didn't you?
Tim Key
Yeah. When we made the short film years ago, I must have bought the lottery ticket. But it feels like they're good numbers now. I like when I'm, like, saying them on screen. They've got a good rhythm to them. I love 47 and 48. Who could think of writing that? Brilliant. But no, they're not. Or are they such a long time ago, maybe they are significant. Maybe we each picked one or something.
Tom Basden
Maybe it might have been a lucky dip. In the uk you can do a thing called the Lucky dip, where you get the computer to pick your numbers for you. It might have been that.
Tim Key
Yeah. But, yeah, the director is starting to play those numbers now.
Mike
Well, I believe in doing things.
Tom Basden
Here we go.
Mike
Getting inspired by movies.
Tim Key
Into the inside.
Mike
I went today and I got the lottery ticket to play the numbers.
Tim Key
Has the game happened yet?
Mike
There's one. I bought two tickets. So one is happening tonight.
Tom Basden
Yeah.
Mike
And there's one happening Friday night.
Tom Basden
And if you win, would you feel compelled to split it with us?
Mike
I would feel compelled to hire you to comb the worm at my house.
Tom Basden
Yeah. Good.
Mike
Okay.
Tom Basden
Yeah, Great.
Mike
If you guys won the lottery, who would you hire to come play your house?
Tim Key
Yeah. Yeah.
Tom Basden
You go first, I think. Do you know we were talking about Happy Gilmore earlier, weren't we?
Mike
We were.
Tom Basden
Adam Sama's got some really good comedy songs that he did when he was first starting out, and I'd quite like him to come around and he could maybe do a couple of them, and then we'd sort of have dinner and that'd be. That'd be nice. I'd like to hang out with him.
Mike
So, you know, I saw him randomly at the airport, and it was like seeing a ghost. Because it's like somebody you've seen for so long in so many movies. You're like, that person shouldn't be here right now.
Tim Key
Yeah. When you see a really famous person, it's weird. Yeah. I had that when I first met Ricky Gervais. Just. It doesn't seem right that he's an actual human being. He sort of sat there. I'm thinking, that's. That is mad. That's actual Ricky Gervais. I mean, it sort of goes away, that feeling after a while. Once you sort of talk to someone.
Tom Basden
Yeah. It's a weird feeling.
Tim Key
Dolly Parton, probably.
Mike
Dolly. Dolly is great. She is somebody who, like, people who are really famous and really successful, they do the little things. And she came into our studio once and had no reason to say hi to me, but I hear, like, these heels coming down the hallway with hair in them. Yes. And this voice comes down and says, who is in there with hair wilder than mine? And I'll never forget it. She had no reason to talk to me. Like, I'm a producer in the back, hanging out, and she comes by and, like, makes my day.
Tim Key
You were seen by Dolly Parton?
Tom Basden
Is Dollywood in Nashville or near Nashville?
Mike
It's in Gatlinburg, so it's like a bit of a drive. We can't make it there tonight, if that's what you want to do.
Tom Basden
Not Tonight. But I'm just talking while we're.
Mike
We had a movie to watch.
Tom Basden
No, but how far. How far are we talking?
Mike
Probably like four hours. Oh, okay.
Tom Basden
That's.
Mike
You're like. I hear it's close.
Tom Basden
It's close for America, but that's not close for us. That's a long way for us.
Mike
Something else that stuck out for me for the movie was the wardrobe. I feel like wardrobe gets overlooked. Like, nobody gives love to the wardrobe. But for actors, does that put you in the mindset of your character of, like, when you put on the clothes they're wearing to kind of transform into them?
Tim Key
Yeah, the first time we did it was with the short film, which we've seen, like, several times over the years. And. Yeah, that's definitely my dad's cardigan. Where I must have, like, gone home for the weekend right before shooting and just raided his. His wardrobe, basically. So it kind of feels like. Yes. Sentimental. Watching that one and this one they had seen at the wardrobe department, that short film. And then they just created. Yeah. Beautiful. I mean, weirdly, my Charles costume is also Herb's costume for the majority of the film because he gets wet and has to go into my clothes. So it's kind of a sea of these. Yeah. Charles Heath clothes. And it looks. Yeah, I agree. When you. Yeah, it. It. They've done a really great job on the costume.
Tom Basden
Yeah, I think you're right, though. I think that people often focus on costume when it's like sci Fi or something or like Wicked or something, where it's just like completely sort of otherworldly kind of costume, as opposed to characterful costume, which is just. Just clothes that exist in the world, but they're just selected in such a way. They tell you so much about the character.
Tim Key
Yeah.
Tom Basden
And I love that about. Particularly Charles's costume and this. The kind of the, you know, the cardigans with the whale embroidered.
Mike
Honestly, I saw your green cardigan, I'm like, I gotta find that. Like, I want to wear that.
Tim Key
Yeah, that first. The first shot of the. When you see Charles for the first time, facing away from camera, putting the record on. That's a pretty spectacular cardigan.
Tom Basden
Yeah, it is.
Tim Key
It's doing a lot of whale on the back.
Tom Basden
Yeah.
Tim Key
There was talk at some point of that being merch, so I'll look into that.
Tom Basden
That exact one. Or getting loads of them.
Tim Key
I mean, merch can't just be one card. Getting loads of them is the bedrock of merchandise, isn't it?
Mike
Was Maguire Mortimer based on any real duo? Because I have an affinity for anything 2010s. Like, that was when I was in college. That's like the music I go to when I need to feel comfort. Was it based on a specific band?
Tom Basden
I mean, I'm the same. I sort of very much, you know, sometimes in my head I still think it's kind of 2010. And then I forget in terms of a lot of the music that I'm sort of, you know, is kind of glued to my brain. It's sort of from that period. The. No, no specific bands, I think, but people like maybe Gillian Welch and Dave Rawlins, that kind of like double act and, you know, I don't know, really a little bit of David Crosby and Roger mcguinn kind of like, you know, those kind of groups where there was a sort of falling out. Buckingham Nicks a little bit. You know what I mean? Like that kind of bands who were together and then fell out again. But yeah, in terms of the kind of sound, certainly sort of that, I don't know, sort of Ryan Adams kind of like 2010 sort of period, that kind of influenced me quite a lot, I think.
Mike
Well, I love the movie. I hope everybody goes to watch it. I really appreciate the time. It's been really great hanging out with you guys.
Tim Key
Really nice to speak to you.
Mike
Thanks so much.
Tim Key
Thank you.
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This is a con.
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Tim Key
After you, Chulito.
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Mike
Let's get into it now. A spoiler free movie review of Snow White, the new one, Live action in theaters now. Although I don't really know if you can spoil this movie. The original one came out in 1937. If this movie is spoiled for you, it's probably because you are the target audience, which is kids and families. I'm not going to be harsh on the spoiler rules on this episode because it's an old story. It's almost 100 years old. So what this version is about, you have Gal Gadot, who plays the Evil Queen. Rachel Zler is Snow White living in perfect peace and harmony with her mom and her dad until her mom falls ill. Her dad meets up with Gal Gadot, they start hanging out, they get married, but then he dies. So Gal Gadot, the Evil Queen, takes over and she ruins the kingdom. She turns all the farmers into soldiers and takes all the riches for herself and then banishes. Snow White actually tries to kill her after she's talking to her magic mirror and says, who is the fairest of them all? And he's like, it's not you anymore, lady. You were the most beautiful person, the nicest person up until Snow White came around and started to be more fair than you. And the Queen can't have it. The Queen's like, no way. I gotta be the fairest of them all. Look at this skin. It is the best skin. You don't lie to me. Magic mirror. So what does she do? She plans and tells one of her huntsmen, take Snow White out apple picking, tell her to put on a really nice dress that's blue, yellow and red and go out and pick some apples. And once she's done picking those apples, you kill her. But then obviously she doesn't die, because otherwise she would have died in the first act of the movie. But obviously the huntsman gets a little bit of like, oh, I can't kill her. Go into the forest and never come back. Hide from the Evil Queen. And that is where she encounters the seven Dwarves. And you have to decide, what does she want to do? Does she want to go back and fight against the queen? Does she want to find out the truth about her dad? Is she gonna live up to the princess that everybody wants her to be? I would say that is kind of where this one differs from the original 1937 version. It plays and puts more of an emphasis on Snow White being a little bit more independent, which obviously you would do in a 2025 movie. I think that is what Rachel Zegler was trying to say whenever she was first interviewed about this film. That I feel put a lot of bad taste in people's mouths about this, where she kind of didn't really praise the first one. She's like, the first one is so old. Which is right. When you look at a lot of classic Disney movies that are based on these fairy tales, they are very outdated. I think even the theme of having seven dwarves is a little bit outdated. And you run into some controversies when trying to update these movies because it's like, how do you honor the original ones but also update them to reflect today's moderns and today's standards? I think that is what she was trying to say, but it came across as she didn't want to be a part of this movie, didn't like the original one, and was kind of hating on the entire ideology, which I think was just a bad way to answer that. You could have answered that much differently. While not sounding like you're trashing the movie that you're about to make an adaptation to. I would have been like, you know, the first one, it is a classic and there's a reason for it being a classic. But I wanted to approach this role differently and bring new life into Snow White, the character. Look at me. I don't look traditionally what you would think of Snow White. And we want to also update the values and not have it so focused on her needing saving. So that is what they kind of try to a little bit steer this story in. But I don't really think they nailed it because pretty much it's the same one beat for beat. There's not really a moment that this one becomes its own, which has been kind of the formula with all the Disney live action remakes. They just take the first one, quote unquote, make them live action, slap the sticker on it and put them out in theaters and hope that nobody notices and hope that people just enjoy that first one so much that they don't really care that they're seeing exactly what they've seen before. And I realized it while sitting in this theater. I realized when I saw all the outrage online, people saying how bad it was because I was going into it thinking, this is going to be terrible. I've been pretty outspoken on not liking a lot of these live action remakes. I think Pinocchio by far is the worst of all time. Little Mermaid had its moments. That's probably the best one in recent history. But once I walked into that theater and I saw families enjoying the film throughout and laughing, I think the most heartwarming thing that kind of Hit me in the feels was afterwards I saw another group of of kids and parents coming in and it was a dad taking his daughters to go see this movie. And they were taking a picture in front of the cardboard cutout of the Snow White display in the lobby and they look so happy. And just the thought of a dad taking his two daughters to go see this movie, that is who this film is for. And the Disney adults are gonna be outraged because it's not for them. They don't really update it. They don't really add any adult themes to it. So obviously you're going to have a problem with it for the most part. In my theater, even though this was a March release when I saw it and kind of on par with all the other March releases, is pretty lowly attended just by looking at the first week numbers. It was rough. Snow white open to $43 million domestically. And before this, the two movies I saw that were also number one at the box office. Novocaine opened at $8.7 million and that was number one. A number one movie made $8.7 million. 8.7 million would maybe get you top five, maybe. And before that, leading up to Snow White, Mickey 17 was also the number one movie in America with 19 million. That's pretty low. I was surprised to see it make this much. And I think it's because the people who are actually going to see this movie aren't the people writing reviews online. They aren't the people trashing it and saying how lifeless it is. It is just families with young kids looking to have a good time at the movie theater. And I think I try to remember that when talking about movies and recognizing when movies aren't for me. And I think that is why I love going to the theater, actually seeing the people who are putting their money where their mouth is and going to the theater to watch these movies. Because sometimes I get so sucked into the comment section of people replying to things, people posting things on X or on Tick Tock and all the comments are just like, ah, this is stupid, this is terrible. Nobody wants this. Who asked for this? And sometimes I get in on those as well because there are moments that I feel slighted against from Disney and I think they are the major offender. But if you looked at those comments and actually asked those people like, hey, what is the last movie you saw in theaters? Well, I don't go to the movies anymore. So why are you commenting online? Why do you care? Why are you trying to take away that joy from somebody a Kid going to this movie isn't going to look at reviews. They see the poster, they see the trailer online, or they see it while watching tv and they're like, I want to go see that. I want to go see the new Disney princess movie. Because if you ask the kid in that moment, what are they going to say? 5 out of 500%. I loved it. So I think that is why I still love going to the theater and actually seeing people take in these movies and getting that audience response and listening to people laughing, people cheering. Because I think that is a bigger indicator of what is actually happening with movies. Instead of a small comment section that we focus on so much. Every time I see a negative comment, it just sticks with me. There's still a comment that haunts me to this day. I did a review of Priscilla and somebody compared me to fat Elvis. And I think about that all the time. The one just meanest comment ever. But it's always that one comment. It's always the comment section, the negative ones that stick with us and seem like the loudest. But I don't think we need to always make those the narrative for everything. And that is why I like doing longer movie discussions here. Because there is nuance to reviews. You can have good things to say about a movie and also bad things to say. There will always be multiple layers, but when you just see a score, when you just see the outrage, it's like, man, that's a bad representation of it. So overall, I felt the movie just wasn't for me. And I don't think it's the worst live action Disney remake that they've ever made. I got a little bit into it. The problem I had, it just felt so awkward. The acting was pretty bad. And I know everybody's ripping Gal Gadot to shred, saying she's a terrible actor, saying she doesn't deserve the star she got on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, posting compilations of her acting. Like Kal El. No. And I think she did what she needed to do in this movie, even though it is pretty flat. But it wasn't just from her. There was one moment where one of the huntsmen and I wrote down the line because it stuck with me so much. He yelled to Snow White, go, before I change my mind. And it just felt so empty. That was probably the worst line of acting out of the entire movie. And there was a lot of that from everybody involved. And I also think coming off of Wicked, there is such a higher standard for a musical, even looking at the budgets. This movie cost over $250 million to make. Meanwhile, Wicked only cost $145 million, which I know they made two at the same time, so they probably ended up spending like 300 million. But whatever that point being, when you just look at the numbers, where did the $250 million go? It wasn't to the set design. The set design looked really empty. It wasn't to the CGI because the seven Dwarves looked creepy. I was freaked out by them the entire time. I think Dopey in the live action is probably the worst Disney character ever put on screen. He took the slot from Flounder from the Little Mermaid in 2023. That flounder looked like he needed to be taken out of his misery. But Dopey didn't work because all the other seven Dwarves, they looked more cartoonish and more like mythical creatures. Dopey looked a little bit too human realistic. And it just felt weird. I felt like at some point he was going to pull out a knife and stab Snow White himself. It just felt really creepy. And even all the animals and I know it's hard to make lifelike animated animals, but you're Disney, you're spending $250 million on a movie. And all the characters looked so bad. And again, I know the kids probably aren't going to care so much about that. I've just seen things look more realistic with a smaller budget and for something that's supposed to be a classic. And when they put out a movie like this, it's supposed to be able to live forever. This is not going to live forever. The 1937 hand drawn hand animated movie. There's a reason people can still go back and rewatch that movie. I think when they made that, it cost $1 million. There is just something being lost here. Maybe they spent too much money getting it. And I think the reason they cast her, which is another thing people say, like, why do they keep casting her? I think it's because she looks flawless. Like her skin is flawless. There were mega close ups on her and you're like, man, she is like the perfect human when it comes to her face complexion. And when you put her in all the different costumes, that's the other thing. Wicked kind of ruined. Had amazing set design, had amazing costume and wardrobe and makeup. And it just felt like Wicked was the Broadway musical and this was the High School Musical. And you have movies coming out like Wicked that are top tier, that people are just itching to re watch listening to the soundtrack. Nobody except for these kids and families are going to listen to the Snow White soundtrack. I would say the major standouts, of course, the classic hi ho, whistle while you work and outside from that. None of the other songs really hit that hard. I kind of like the Princess Problem song. So it wasn't that the songs were bad, they just weren't as memorable and at that a level tier that you need for a musical right now. So I went into it thinking it was going to be the worst Disney live action remake. It is a little bit lifeless, it is a little awkward, but I realize again, these kids and families don't care about that. They still paid money to go see it. It did better than I thought it was going to. I think in its theatrical run it'll probably do okay, maybe earn back its production budget. But again, I still feel that you could probably wait to watch this on Disney plus for Snow White. I give it 2.5 out of 5 poison apples.
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This is a con.
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After you, Chulito.
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The FBI went around to all their neighbors and said to them, do you think these people are good Americans? It's got heists, tragedy, a trial of the century, and the God damnedest love story you've ever heard.
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I picked up the phone and my thought was, this is the most important phone call I'll ever make in my life. I couldn't believe it. I mean, Brendan, it was divine intervention.
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Tim Key
It's time to head down to movie Mike's Trailer Park.
Mike
You thought things were freaky before. Hey, did you think things were freaky before? They're about to get freakier. Freakier Friday is coming out in theaters on August 8th. Hey, you think things are freakier before I knew you thought things were freakier. Lindsay Lohan is back. Jamie Lee Curtis is back. And apparently I have lost my mind because after watching the trailer for this, I honestly thought it was gonna be continuing the theme here of Disney live action remakes, legacy sequels. I thought it was gonna be rinse, repeat, something we've seen time and time again. When I started looking up how many new original movies Disney has released, I thought maybe in the last five years. It has been over a decade since we've got a movie like the original Freaky Friday, which came out in 2003. 2003. It's been 22 years and we do not get Disney movies like this anymore. And I guess it's because I grew up in such a privileged time where it was the norm to get a live action Disney movie that had no affiliation with any big Disney property. It wasn't a Cinderella. It wasn't anything based on their legacy movies. It was just these original fun movies. Sometimes it was Tim Allen as a dog, but a lot in the early 2000s, it was Lindsay Lohan. It was movies like Freaky Friday. If you look at Lindsay Lohan's first five movies with Disney, which I'll also include her Disney Channel original movies in 98, the Parent Trap, that was Disney 2000. Life size, the Disney Original Channel movie, great movie. Followed that up with Get a clue in 2002, then moved into theaters with Freaky Friday in 2003 and then in 2004 also with Disney Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen. That is a great five film introduction for Lindsay Lohan. And we just haven't had those original movies anymore after that. She did mean girls in 2004. That's when she really blew up. Then she did also with Disney, Herbie Fully Loaded, which was a remake. But she also did movies like Just My Luck, A Grand Prairie Home companion, Bobby in 2006, Georgia rule in 2007. Also in 2007, did a movie called I Know who killed me. In 2009 she did labor pains in 2010 she did machete, which was an interesting casting for her. And then finally she did the Canyons in 2013. And that was the last major movie that Lindsay Lohan put out. She went away. She has since returned and had a bit of a resurgence over on Netflix. Movies like Falling for Christmas, Irish Wish. But when Freaky or Friday comes out in theaters this summer, this is gonna be her apex of her career as part of her comeback. This is the first time Lindsay Lohan is going to be in theaters for over a decade. And I have to say, after watching this trailer, it just feels good. It feels right. Does it feel a little cash grabby? Yes, it does. But before I get into that, here's just a little bit of the Freakier Friday trailer.
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Oh my God. What was that? Oh, no, not again. What's happening? It's all right. Who's in my body?
Mike
It's okay.
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It's me. Heartbeat's mom. Wait, what? If you're me and I'm you, then who is that?
Tom Basden
I'm grandma, Sweetheart.
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My face looks like a Burkin bag that's been left out in the sun to rot.
Mike
So what this movie is about, it takes place years after Tess, who is played by Jamie Lee Curtis, and Anna, who is played by Lindsay Lohan, went through everything that went down in Freaky Friday. Now Lindsay Lohan's character has a daughter and a soon to be stepdaughter. And it looks like the old people trade places with the young people as heard in that clip. So pretty much what happened in the original movie. But now there are four people involved instead of two. And oftentimes when you hear the long awaited sequel, it's just a way for them to build anticipation that isn't quite there. But I would have to say Freaky or Friday is actually a sequel that I saw people wanting a lot of times from Disney. We get sequels that nobody wanted, nobody asked for, and then they're like the long awaited sequel. Who was awaiting for this? Nobody was anticipating this sequel. But I think it's because Lindsay Lohan has had this resurgence and her movies are so nostalgic, all the ones I've been talking about here, that people actually want more from her. People are actually rooting for her. And this movie actually looks like it's gonna be a lot of fun. This is the first time a movie that's come out in theaters from Disney actually has a little bit of that magic that they captured in the early 2000s. It feels like a real live action Disney release that isn't just your taking an animated movie and making it live action. So I think this is a great step for Disney. Also, the fact that they're not pushing this straight directly to Disney plus tells me that they spent some more money on it. The only real problem I have with this, because I gotta have a problem with it, is it looks just a little bit too polished to me. And this is something that's just a personal preference for me and I have to get over it in 2025. But back in 2003, the first freaky Friday movie and a lot of those movies that we grew up with were actually filmed using real film. When you compare a shot from that or from the parent trap to 2025, freakier Friday, they look vastly different. Some would say the 2025 frame would look better because it's more clear, a little bit more vibrant. But to me, there's just something about those old classic movies we grew up with that actually look like they were filmed on film. And I know it's more expensive to shoot it on real film. Also, it's a much slower process where you can just do it digitally and crank out this movie a lot faster, which is what they're going for here. But every now and then, I wish when they did these remakes that they actually try to make it look somewhat like the original. And I think by shooting it on real film, what actually make it feel like that and it's not too much I'm asking for here? I don't think so, but I just feel like that adds a little bit to the lasting effect of these movies and just doesn't feel like a quick cash grab, putting it out in theaters as quickly as possible, trying make a buck. Because when it comes to these legacy sequels, they always kind of do the same thing. And I'm okay with it. In this situation, Whether it's Freaky or Friday or when it's Girl Meets World, whenever they bring back the legacy actors and now they are older and have kids of their own, it's kind of the same thing over and over again where it's the young kids. In this case, it's going to be the Gen Z kids making fun of the millennials and making fun of the boomer. In this situation, Chad Michael Murray in there, which that whole scene, it's like, oh, man, he's really back. Like, he was itching for this. He needed this. He had been waiting for this ever since One Tree Hill went away. And he's done all these random Christmas movies, which, I mean, it's just hard for actors to stay relevant and keep working. So I'm not hating on him for that, but I can only imagine he was just waiting and couldn't believe when he got the call from Disney that they wanted him back because they easily could have done it without him. Didn't really need him. He still looks good in the trailer. He's 43 years old, so probably right at that right page for this role to still make sense for him. So good for him. Get that money. Get that bag. So I don't really care about him returning. Who I do care about that looks like is returning in this movie are the members and the band Pink Slip because you get a shot of Lindsay Lohan playing guitar and it looks like Christina Vidal and Haley Hudson are listed as cast members on Freakier Friday. So we're getting that Pink Slip reunion. I had a huge crush on Christina Vidal back in the early 2000s. Her and Brink. Oh yeah, that was my girl. So is this movie gonna be cheesy? Oh yeah. Is it gonna be predictable? Oh yeah. Because I just feel it's gonna be the exact same thing we got in Freaky Friday. Probably beat for beat. There's gonna be a fortune cookie involved. They're gonna switch bodies. They're gonna freak out. Like we heard in the clip and we see in the trailer, they're going to try to figure out how to come back. They're going to do all the same things that happened in the first one. Make some Gen Z references, talk about TikTok. You have Jamie Lee Curtis using lingo that she can't use and the young kids cringing and making fun of her. All those things. There's going to be product placement out the butt. So even though I think the case is cash grab, I'm still all here for it for Freakier Friday. It's coming out on August 8th and that was this week's edition of Movie Mike Trailer park. And that is going to do it for episode here of the podcast. But before I go, I got to give my listeners shout out of the week. This week I'm going over to my YouTube channel, which is YouTube.com Mike Diestro. If you ever forget that or any of my socials. They are always linked in the episode notes. But this week's listener shout out goes to Venom Z7682 who wrote on my the Electric State Review who said I agree, definitely not as bad as the reviews are making it seem, I do feel like it is just getting hate for the sake of it. Trying to find anything they can justify for not liking it. Which I do believe is the case when it comes to review bombing. When it seems like one big publication or reviewer puts out a statement and then everybody who kind of copies the same opinions think, well, if they said that about that, they don't like it. I can't be out here liking that too. I don't buy into that. I will never read another review and say I gotta form my opinion based on what they think. That is also why I speak so much on emotion in my reviews. Because I can't sit here and say I know a whole lot about the technical aspect. Even when I talk about cinematography. I talk about how that cinematography makes me feel and the angles and the placement of things and the effect it has on the viewer. I'm not breaking down what lenses they use or what kind of lighting because that's not me. And I'm never going to get on here just to hate on a movie for the sake of hating it. I'm not above hating a movie. Sometimes I do watch movies that I straight out don't like, and I get heat for that as well. But it will always be my genuine hatred for a movie. But I do believe movies like this, movies we talked about earlier, like Snow White, which now has the lowest rating on IMDb ever, are going to be subject to that from time to time. So I appreciate that. Venoms. Thank you for watching over there on YouTube. And this week we did have a guest. So if I post over on socials I will give out the secret emoji. I'll make a post over on Facebook, Twitter, my Instagram and Tick Tock probably. But you can comment with the guitar emoji and that is where I'll pick next week's listener Shout out of the week. So if you're new to this, anytime I post about having a guest, just throw the emoji in the comments and it's a way to say, hey, I listened to the interview and I enjoyed it. Sometimes when podcasts I listen to post things and I enjoy it. Sometimes I just don't know what to say. I'm like, oh, should I say, oh, great episode? Should I say something about a comment that they've made? And sometimes just putting an emoji is easier. It's saying, hey, I watch this. I recognize this. I'm not the best at commenting sometimes because it feels weird, so just drop an emoji. So thank you for being here. Next week is going to be awesome too, because I'm sitting down with the stars of Hell of a Summer, which is a new horror movie coming out this Friday. Actually, Finn Wolfhard, who you probably know from Stranger Things, he plays Mike on there. He was also in it. It was also in Ghostbusters, Afterlife and Ghostbusters Frozen Empire. Great actor. He directed it. He also stars in it, made it with a couple of his buddies who are also big actors that we'll talk about. So be back for next week. Be subscribed to this podcast wherever you listen to podcasts right now because you're not going to want to miss that episode. Tell a friend thank you for being here and until next time, go out and watch Good movies. And I will talk to you later.
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Host: Premiere Networks
Episode Title: MOVIE MIKE: How ‘The Ballad of Wallace Island’ Inspired Mike in Real Life with Tom Basden and Tim Key + Movie Review: Snow White + Trailer Park: Freakier Friday
Release Date: April 6, 2025
Overview:
In this segment, Movie Mike sits down with Tom Basden and Tim Key, the stars and writers of the independent film The Ballad of Wallace Island. The discussion delves into the film’s creation, the challenges of independent filmmaking, and the personal connections that the creators have with their work.
Key Points:
Origins of the Film:
Tom Basden explains that the movie began as a short film and evolved into a full-length feature. The story centers around Tim Key's character, a devoted fan of the music duo Maguire and Mortimer, portrayed by Tom Basden and Carey Mulligan. After winning the lottery, he invites the duo to perform on his island, leading to their reunion.
Creative Process and Improvisation:
The conversation highlights the balance between a tightly written script and moments of improvisation. Tom mentions, “There’s some romantic tension... can you really pull it off?” [05:23]. Tim adds, “It’s like crafting a story that’s got to be coherent and has a certain pace and rhythm” [08:36].
First Screening Experience:
Tim reflects on the anxiety of presenting their work at Sundance, where they faced 1,400 viewers for the first time. He contrasts this with stand-up comedy’s gradual audience feedback, stating, “It’s petrifying because you could be sitting... praying that people will like it” [06:54].
Emotional Connection and Performance:
The actors discuss the emotional depth required for performances, especially in scenes involving music. Tim shares, “This is insane that this is happening. So it kind of came… quite naturally” [13:23]. They emphasize the authenticity brought to their roles without over-relying on preconceived notions or excessive scripting.
Importance of Supporting Independent Films:
Both Tom and Tim stress the significance of backing independent projects. Tom remarks, “It’s a bit magical seeing full cinemas of people just really enjoying it” [15:15]. Tim concurs, highlighting the rarity of such opportunities and the gratitude felt for the film’s success.
Notable Quotes:
Overview:
Movie Mike provides a spoiler-free review of Disney’s live-action remake of Snow White. He critiques various aspects of the film, including acting, set design, costume, and the adaptation’s faithfulness to the original 1937 animated classic.
Key Points:
Plot Summary and Modern Adaptation:
Mike summarizes the film’s plot, noting the modernization of Snow White’s character to be more independent. He acknowledges Rachel Zegler’s intentions to refresh the story but feels the execution was lacking.
Acting and Characterization:
The review criticizes Gal Gadot’s performance as the Evil Queen, labeling it “pretty flat” and pointing out awkward acting moments. Mike states, “He yelled to Snow White, go, before I change my mind. And it just felt so empty” [35:14].
Set Design and CGI:
Despite the film’s $250 million budget, Mike feels the set design appears empty and the CGI, especially the portrayal of the seven dwarves, is unsettling. He describes Dopey’s animation as “the worst Disney character ever put on screen” [38:26].
Costume and Wardrobe:
While acknowledging the effort in costume design, Mike notes that the wardrobe doesn’t significantly enhance the characters, contrasting it with more vibrant designs in other Disney productions like Wicked.
Box Office Performance and Audience Reception:
The film opened to $43 million domestically, a relatively modest figure considering its budget. Mike observes that the negative online reviews don’t reflect the enjoyment of the target audience—families and children.
Personal Reflection and Final Verdict:
Mike expresses disappointment, rating the film 2.5 out of 5 "poison apples". He appreciates that families enjoyed it but remains critical of the overall execution, especially compared to the original classic.
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Overview:
In this segment, Movie Mike discusses the upcoming sequel to Freaky Friday, titled Freakier Friday. He reviews the trailer, reflects on Disney’s legacy sequels, and shares his excitement and reservations about the film.
Key Points:
Nostalgia and Return of Cast:
Mike reminisces about Lindsay Lohan’s early 2000s Disney films and notes her resurgence with Netflix projects. Freakier Friday marks her return to theaters after over a decade, alongside Jamie Lee Curtis.
Trailer Analysis:
The trailer showcases the familiar body-swap premise extended to four characters. Mike appreciates the return to original magic but expresses concern over it appearing “too polished” [46:16].
Comparison to Original Films:
Mike contrasts the original Freaky Friday with the sequel, highlighting the absence of legacy sequels that weren’t directly tied to established franchises. He suggests that Freakier Friday feels more authentic compared to other Disney remakes.
Expectations and Skepticism:
While excited about the nostalgic value and potential fun factor, Mike worries about predictability and over-polished production. He hopes the film captures the charm of early 2000s Disney originals without becoming a cash grab.
Personal Anecdotes and Host Interaction:
The discussion includes light-hearted banter about lottery numbers and personal experiences with celebrities, adding a personable touch to the review.
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Overview:
Movie Mike concludes the episode by engaging with his listeners, acknowledging shout-outs, and teasing upcoming content, including an interview with the stars of Hell of a Summer.
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Listener Shout-Outs:
Mike appreciates listener feedback, specifically highlighting Venom Z7682’s comments on handling review bombing and maintaining personal opinions independent of online negativity.
Future Content:
He announces an upcoming interview with Finn Wolfhard and other actors from Hell of a Summer, promising insights into their roles and the film’s production.
Social Media Interaction:
Mike encourages listeners to interact via emojis on social platforms to earn shout-outs, fostering a community around genuine feedback and engagement.
Notable Quotes:
This episode of The Bobby Bones Show offers a multifaceted exploration of recent films and their impact, blending in-depth interviews with critical reviews and enthusiastic previews of upcoming releases. Movie Mike effectively combines personal insights with industry discussions, providing listeners with a comprehensive look at contemporary cinema.
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