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MOVIE MIKE: The Best and Worst Live-Action Remakes of Animated Movies + Movie Review: Did Materialists Bring Rom-Coms Back? + Trailer Park: Eddington - Why Is Pedro Pascal So Popular?
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Today I want to talk about what the best and worst live action remakes of animated movies are. In the movie review, we'll be talking about materialists. Some people felt duped by this movie because they really leaned into the marketing of rom coms are back. I want to talk about how the genre of rom coms has evolved. And in the trailer park we'll be talking about Eddington, which stars Joaquin Phoenix and Pedro Pascal. I want to do a whole deep dive on Pedro Pascal because he is in so many movies right now. And I want to talk about when somebody gets so busy, are they able to dedicate enough time to each role to really have a presence on screen that resonates with audiences? Or can you be so in demand that your overall product starts to diminish a little bit? We'll talk about that. Thank you for being here. Thank you for being subscribed. Shout out to the Monday Morning Movie Crew. And now let's talk Movies from the Nashville Podcast Network. This is Movie Mike's Movie Podcast. I thought I was going to have an easier time coming up with my best live action remakes of animated movies, and I know I've been critical of them really heavily in the last couple of years, but I thought they've been doing them for so long that surely there are enough good ones to make a top five. Surely you can't be serious. I am serious and don't call me Shirley. But I really had to fight for my top five. I tried to include other studios that were not Disney, but when doing my research, primarily all the live action remakes of animated movies come to us from Disney. So that is just their business model. It appears that only one non Disney movie made it into my top five. So before we get into the best and then the worst and then I also have five that I think should have live action remakes done. I want to talk about the first ever Disney live action remake came out back in 1994. Can you guess which one it was? Because before this they had done live action animation hybrid movies that were kind of remakes but not really what we consider to be a remake right now. This was the first movie to adapt a classic Disney animated feature and turn it into a full live action film, which. Oh, we're going to get into some discussion later about how some of these don't even feel live action to me. But can you guess the movie that came out in 1994 and it's based on the original animated Disney film that came out back in 1967. It was the last animated feature film to be personally overseen by Walt Disney before his death. Can you guess the movie? The answer is the jungle book in 1994. I remember when this movie came out because my cousin had it on VHS and I became obsessed with the character of Mowgli primarily because I was also a brown skinned kid who liked running around without his T shirt on. So anytime I'd be outside, I always gravitated towards climbing trees. I always said I wanted to be like Mowgli, but this was the first to do it and I thought they did it well. Does this movie hold up? I don't know. I haven't seen this movie since the 90s. But the jungle Book was the first live action remake and then they remade it again in 2016. The Jungle Book came out directed by Jon Favreau. So that movie does not quite make my list. But. But I wanted to give you a bit of a history lesson before we dive into my top five. Let's get into it now. At number five, I have the Little Mermaid which I gave a 3.5 out of five. It came out in 2023. I thought Haley Bailey did a fantastic job as Ariel. Javier Bardem I thought was also a good king. But hands down, I think the person who really solidified this as being a good movie to me was Melissa McCarthy as Ursula and. And this was a Disney movie that actually had benefit from turning it into a live action movie because you have a world that I was actually interested in exploring under the sea. They actually made that look pretty good. And I thought overall the story followed pretty close to the original animated version, which I think what Disney usually tries to do, especially with these old classics, is go back and fix plot holes or update things that maybe seem a little bit outdated. I like the Disney movies that really stick to the original story as much as possible. But the Little Mermaid was one that I actually went to see in theaters and was entertained throughout the entire film. The major problem I had with it was Flounder, who looked just grotesque. He is one of the worst looking on screen characters of all time with the use of cgi. He looked like he was in pain. His eyes were bugging out. And overall that was the hardest part of me getting into this film. And overall that is going to be the theme here. It is really hard for me to become invested in realistic looking animals because there's a different level of magic when you're watching an animated movie and you're not trying to associate them with a real thing. You could go out back in a pond and find or go out to the ocean. It's so much harder to do. But the Little Mermaid comes in at number five. At number four, I have Beauty and the Beast starring Emma Watson. And maybe the reason I love this one so much, I remember going to see it in theaters alone back in 2017. Oh, I saw a lot of movies alone in 2017. I was in my second year of living in Nashville by myself. I don't even think I was really actively dating at that point. No, by 2017 I probably was. I think the entire time I was here I was sort of dating, but I was really bad at it. And I spent a lot of time going to movies alone. And quite frankly, the memory I associate with Beauty and the Beast is going to watch it alone and then doing a review for it in my car afterwards on Snapchat. But I think it's because I am such a huge fan of Emma Watson and unfairly, she is an actor who I just associate with Hermione Granger. Unfair of me and all of the Harry Potter cast. I think I've come out of feeling that way about Daniel Radcliffe because he's done a lot of great movies like Swiss Army Man. And Emma Watson has been an actor who has been really selective about her work post Harry Potter. So much so that she hasn't really retired from acting, but she's kind of taken a hiatus where she's much more concerned about other things going on in the world and what film she is going to do next. But I thought overall this movie actually made me care more about Beauty and the Beast, which I know how groundbreaking that movie was when it came out back in 1991. It became the first animated movie to be nominated for best picture in 1992 at the Oscars. And it was because of how groundbreaking the animation was, the level of artistry, which was a theme of the 90s Disney Renaissance era, the level of storytelling, the technical achievements. And this was pretty revolutionary at the time because I'm still in 2025 fighting for animation at the Oscars. We're just talking about this last week as well. But a major milestone for this movie to be nominated for Best Picture way back in 1992, because it had critical acclaim, it had commercial success, and overall just left a lasting impression on animation. And because I was a baby when it came out, I wasn't really alive to know about its impact. And later as a young kid, it wasn't really a movie I gravitated towards. It had some really fantastic songs in it. But I always just saw the movie as being an old classic movie that I remember one of my aunts having in those classic big Disney VHS cartridges and we borrowed it from her and watched it and I thought, okay, that's a pretty good movie. But it wasn't until I watched it in 2017 in a live action format that I thought, oh, I actually get the story more. I feel a little bit more connected to Belle, even though I feel the story is more vibrant in animation, which again, that's going to be a theme throughout this list is I'm always going to prefer the animated version or the live action version because even little things like the color of Belle's dress and the way it looks in the live action version isn't as iconic as it is in animation. But those things aside, it stays pretty close to the original story. Maybe adds another storyline in there that some people feel is a little bit unnecessary. But I enjoyed how they kind of changed Gaston's character a little bit in the live action version. Maybe the connection between the Beauty and the Beast wasn't as strong in the live action version because I feel like there's much more romance. Whenever it's an animated beast and an animated lead female character, it starts to become a little bit harder for them to have chemistry in a quote unquote Live action movie Even though it's they didn't get a real beast, but it's still one I would revisit today, so it has some rewatch ability. But at number four, I have Beauty and the Beast. At number three, my most recent addition to this list, I just watched it how to Train youn Dragon, which I give a 3.5 out of 5. I love the animated version and this was one where pretty much they stayed really close to the original story. I would say beat for beat, if you watch the animated version and then go watch the liveaction one, it is pretty much a reflection of that original story because you have the same director, Ol Dean, who also worked on Lilo and Stitch is now one of the first people ever to not only be a part of the animated version of a movie, but also the live action version of a movie. And I think that really showed as well. So much so that he brought back Gerard Butler, who is the voice of the dad in the animated version and is now playing him in real live action. Now, could you get some of the other actors to do that? No, because they're all much older now. I mean, you couldn't get Jonah Hill, although that would be funny. You couldn't get Christopher Mince plass, who is aka McLovin and super bad Jay Barel, who voices Hiccup in the original animated version. I think he brings a lot more life to that character. And that's no disrespect to Mason Thames, who played Hiccup in the live action version. I thought he did a really good job. And I just think overall, the qualities that I love about Hiccup in the animated version aren't quite there in the live action version. His quirkiness, aside from the way that his hair looks, I think his overall mannerisms and what make Hiccup Hiccup, you see more in the original version. But with all that being said, the action is there, the dragons look good, the fire is there, the village is just how you see it in the animated version. And. And what DreamWorks did with this blows a lot of what Disney did out of the water. And the only reason that two and number one rank higher isn't a visual thing. I think visually this one takes the cake out of any other Disney live action remake. And it comes down to wardrobe and set design and just overall how this feels like a movie that doesn't feel like a family movie. Even its runtime is almost two hours. And I think aside from the fact that there's not blood and guts in it. And at times maybe not exactly like it, but it's almost like taking the story from how to train your dragon and making it look like a Game of Thrones episode. Again, not as hardcore and dark as you would get in a Game of Thrones episode. But I think if they really wanted to push it a little bit further, which the how to train your dragon movies do get a little bit darker, going from one to two where things start to get a little bit more serious. As you can see, I'm now going back and re watching all of these movies, but I think if they wanted to go there, if they wanted to age it up just a little bit, they definitely could. And that is something that Disney is not doing. And I think it's a great time for this movie to come out 15 years after the original. And I overall was really quite excited of how well this can be done. And again, if it wasn't for the classic storytelling and number two and number one on this list, I think this one could have easily had a chance to rank higher. I was also exposed to this movie when I was a little bit older, came out in 2010, so I was already 19 years old. But now to people who were kids when this movie first came out, I think you probably resonate with it a lot more seeing it in live action. And I think now by seeing how much more I was inspired by this movie and how it really compares to everything else, I'm bumping it up on my rating scale. I now give how to Train youn Dragon four out of five flames. And at number two, you probably think this one would have been number one for me because this room I'm sitting in right now is littered with this character. I have Lilo and Stitch, which I gave a 4.5 out of 5. I've seen this movie twice now in theaters. I loved it more the second time because I got to see things that I kind of missed the first time around. I can't wait for it to come out on Disney plus, which is probably going to be a while, so I could re watch it for a third time. This movie inspired me to go back and re watch all the animated Lilo and Stitch movies that are on Disney plus Stitch has a glitch, which I wonder now if and when they make a sequel to the live action Lilo and Stitch if they're going to follow that story, which I think could be a good story for them to follow because that's all about Stitch trying to battle his inner badness and him trying to do good things, but then he has a force making him be bad when he doesn't want to be bad anymore. I think that story will probably take a little bit of tweaking to make work for another full feature film. And the only reason this one didn't come in at number one is because after watching it for a second time, after reading more about it, I feel that Disney did not invest enough in this movie. They didn't believe enough in it that it was going to be a success. And now that it's one of the biggest movies of the year, they're like, oh, yeah, we have a big property on our hands that people love and are passionate for. And it's that and the fact that it wasn't even at first going to be a feature film. It was originally going to be put on Disney plus, maybe as a series. And I started to see that the second time around because I thought, oh, man, they did kind of cut some corners here. And I think that is primarily for me, Visible with Pleakly and Jumba, who weren't even their full selves throughout the entire movie. I feel like they cut corners in making them revert to their human form. And for the most part, you see Zach Galifianakis instead of Jumba throughout the movie. So that led me to believe and solidify that. I think they didn't believe in it enough from the start. But hopefully now, seeing all of the support for Lilo and Stitch, seeing all the fandom, and again, they'll probably do this now because they're like, okay, we can capitalize a whole lot more on this. We can sell a whole lot more of Stitch merch by investing more into the sequel to this. I hope they get better visual effects. I hope they bring back some characters that they didn't include in the first one. So I have higher expectations now for Lilo and Stitch 2 whenever that happens. But that is why I have Lilo and Stitch all on my list at number two. And at number one, I have 2019's the Lion King. And I feel like this being at number one is kind of cheating because it's not really a live action movie. They did not go out to Africa and film a bunch of wild animals. It is computer generated graphics now. Is it really sophisticated and thought out and cinematic computer generated graphics? Yes, we was it technology that was. I don't even think it was that groundbreaking at the time because they did it with the 2016 Jungle Book version. That was kind of the precursor to this one, which was also directed by Jon Favreau. So what I loved about it is it stuck completely to the story. It is essentially the 1994 movie brought to life with different animation. So it's almost like when you have a formula that is so good, you have this recipe that all you need to do is follow it. Your mom leaves you behind a recipe to her world famous chocolate chip cookies. All you have to do is follow that recipe, take them out when the timer is up, and don't burn the cookies. That's all you have to do. You have the recipe. Which is astounding to me that they don't just do that for every other movie. And stop this whole discussion of people being outraged every time a film comes out. And they change some things. If they just stuck to the original plot of all these movies that everybody loves, I think there would be less outrage. Or maybe they want the outrage. They need people to be discussing them, be ranting about them, because maybe that drives more people to see them because outrage sparked curiosity. But still, at number one, I have the Lion King, which is still a 4.5 out of 5 to me because the original is a 5 out of 5. And that is the highest rated live action remake. There's no way you can achieve anything better than the original. So I'll never rank one of these movies A5. I don't think I could ever rank any remake of five, because you just can't be better than the original. Some honorable mentions here. I thought Aladdin was pretty good, but I think if you didn't have Will Smith as Genie, I probably would have loved it more. He really just kind of killed that character for me. The other movie I wanted to put on this list, but I don't think it counts is Cruella, because I loved Emma Stone as Cruel Deville. But it's not really a remake. It is a prequel to 101 Dalmatians, which also had a live action version in 1996 with Glenn Close. That I believe is a pretty bad version. But as a kid I enjoyed it. But I think that is probably on the lower end of live action adaptations. And I only like it for nostalgia purposes. And like I mentioned earlier, 1994 is the jungle Book was the first to do it. It would have made it if I was making a top 10. And there is a weird connection because Jason Scott Lee was the actor in that movie who played Mowgli. He also went on to be the voice of David in the animated version of Lilo and Stitch and Then he happened to be in Mulan in 2020, and then they brought him back again. Since he was the voice of David in the original Lilo and Stitch, they brought him back as the person who owns the restaurant that Nani works at. So dude has been in the Jungle Book, Lilo and Stitch both animated and live action, and was in the liveaction remake of Mulan. We did the best. Now let's do the worst. Speaking of Mulan, I have it at number five. I just think that movie did not feel like Mulan. Was it a bad movie? No. But when you're remaking a classic Disney movie that has a lot of comedy in it and you take away all the comedy and you don't have the dragon voiced by Eddie Murphy anymore, you don't have the dragon character at all. It just took all the life and Disney magic out of that movie and just made it feel like a really Cold War movie. Overall, the action and everything was fine, but it was so forgettable. And also the fact that it came out in 2020 and what they were doing at the time was making you pay full price to watch movies on Disney Plus. I remember paying $20 to see Mulan and feeling so robbed by that. So at number five, I have Mulan. At number four, I have Alice in Wonderland. From 2010, I decided to include not one, but two Tim Burton films because I think it just ruined some classics by making them overtly Tim Burton and taking away everything that made the animated versions great. And this was what I felt was a string of just bad Tim Burton films. I'm not sure he's entirely recovered from this, but because at number three, I have 2019 Dumbo, that just felt like a complete mess and took all the charm out of Dumbo. At number two, I have Snow White, which came out earlier this year. And that was primarily just because, again, whenever you make something live action, you take away the comical joy out of it. There was no joy in the Seven Dwarves that were really creepy looking to me, all the drama that went into that, I also feel like took away from any hopes of that movie being good. I don't think Gal Gadot deserves as much hate as she gets for her acting, but there are some isolated moments that you could pull from a performance in that that just feel so flat. And I honestly think she is doing what directors want her to do. She is placed in these roles that they maybe at times set her up to fail. And I think that's primarily on the director, because was her performance really flat in this movie at times, yes. But also what she was saying that she has no control over that was on the page, was also bad. The only real redeeming quality of Snow White was the fact that the costumes look pretty good. But overall, the set design, the production, the special effects were atrocious. The songs were pretty forgettable. And maybe earlier I gave the award to Flounder as being the worst looking animated to live action character as far as design and overall how it looks compared to all the other characters in the movie. But hands down, I think I have to take that award away and give it to Dopey because I still have nightmares of how bad they made him look. Get him away from me. But at number one from 2022 is Pinocchio. This movie was so bad, Robert Zemeckis, who Tom Hanks worked with on classics like Forrest Gump, they did here together, maybe they should stop working together. Actually, I thought when you have somebody like Tom Hanks and Robert Zemeckis coming together to work on arguably one of the top five Disney classics of all time, this movie was regurgitated garbage, meaning that it was something that I ate, expelled from my body and then took that in my body and did it again. Because that's what they did. They took something that was good and just made it a heap of trash. I was personally offended by Pinocchio. I Rage watched this movie to the end because about 15, 20 minutes into it I was like, this is bad. Pinocchio looks bad. The story doesn't work. All the characters that are supporting Pinocchio are terrible. There are no redeeming qualities of this movie. I rage watched it till the very end because if I don't fully watch a movie, I can't review it. I'm like, I'm going to watch this movie just for the fact that I could rip it for 10 to 15 years. The worst, not only the worst animated to live action movie, one of the worst Disney movies of all time. I gave it the lowest rating you can possibly give a movie in my book, a 0.5. That is bad. And we'll wrap it up talking about five animated movies that I think would benefit from live action remakes. Even though I feel like no animated movie needs to be. I just know it's a business. Wherever there is a level of fandom and ip, eventually there's going to be a live action remake of it. I would say we're probably another 10 years away from a despicable me. It's just gonna happen, guys. It is Inevitable. The one on my list I think would actually really work and not feel like a cash grab is the Iron Giant. Because I feel that is a movie that is underappreciated. We all watched it as kids maybe and didn't understand it at the time. But if you go back and rewatch that movie as an adult, it is really emotional. And if you think about the story in that, if you think about the visuals, if they remade it now, it would kind of feel like Transformers for kids. And we have the technology now, we've had it since 2007 to make realistic looking metal characters. I just think that would look fantastic if you could create that energy that you get from an MCU movie or a Transformers movie and take away it having to be cool and appeal to like a PG13 audience and just make it for PG audiences. I think there's something there. I think there is a level of film right now that is under serving that level of fandom because the movie is all about friendship and sacrifice. And you could still get Vin Diesel to voice the Iron Giant. It would be fantastic. A goofy movie. As much as I would want an animated sequel and as much as I don't even know how a live action remake of the movie would be, it could look atrocious, it could look like a horror movie. But I just want that level of Here is this movie that has this deep rooted cult following from the 90s. To have a moment now, much like Lilo and Stitches having that just feels validating. Because in the same way that I don't feel like people fully appreciated Lilo and Stitch when it came out in the 2000s, that that character has really grown a just passionate, rabid fan base over time. I think that is what has happened with a goofy movie. So I would like for that film to finally get its flowers. And if it takes a live action remake to get that, I'll take it. One of my favorite animated movies as a kid, Pokemon, the first movie which I rewatch probably once a year. They did make a CGI remake of it back in 2020, which was Pokemon Mewtwo Strikes Back Evolution, which basically follows the plot of the first movie pretty much entirely and just recreates it with cgi. That is the movie I've been waiting on my entire life. I've just wanted to see exactly what I loved and experienced as a kid. Just make it live action. I've been wanting that. I remember having dreams of that when I was 10 years old. I. I don't want Detective Pikachu I don't want a spin off. I just want a liveaction version of the first movie. Next up on my list I have Dragon Ball Super Superhero, which is a full length animated film based on the series. And this is the movie that really got me back into Dragon Ball. Even though I grew up with it. My memories of watching it in Mexico with all my cousins in Spanish was how I was first exposed to Dragon Ball Z. And then as an adult I went back, I saw this movie first and that inspired me to go and watch all of Dragon Ball super, which I watched all 131 or 33 episodes of that show and now have gone back and restarted Dragon Ball Z from the very beginning. But Dragon Ball Super Superhero I think would translate perfect into a live action movie, even though they have failed doing this and failed so badly. Was the movie that came out back in 2009, Dragon Ball Evolution. That movie was a disaster. You have such high expectations for how you think these characters are going to look. Piccolo looked atrocious. Goku looked atrocious. There were no redeeming qualities about that movie. And if we're getting an R rated Ninja Turtles movie, they're working on the Last Ronin, which is a live action adaptation of the graphic novel. I think if we gave that similar treatment to a Dragon Ball super, that would finally make it hit. And finally, because there have been rumblings of this of who would play Miles Morales. I would want to see a live action remake of Spider man into the Spider Verse. I think this all comes down to casting. Can you find the right person to play Miles Morales? Can you find the right director? And how does it fit into everything else that the MCU is doing? Is it going to be a part of the mcu? I think you have to keep it completely separate, much like you do with all the Spider Verse movies. And I think there are a lot of fans who want to see Miles Morales in Secret wars or in Doomsday. I don't think that is going to happen. But can you imagine the pops across the country that that would get much like we had back with no Way Home. Could you imagine how crazy people would go if that's how they decide to debut Miles Morales as Spider man and either do it probably wouldn't be Doomsday. It would probably be Secret Wars. They debut them in Secret wars and then announce that there's going to be a live action Miles Morales movie. That would be epic. That's why I want to see it. Although that could go downhill really fast. Just keep it out of Sony's hands. We'll come back and I'll give my spoiler free review of materialists. Hi, Zoe Saldana. Welcome to T Mobile. Here's your new iPhone 16 Pro on us. Thanks. And here's my old phone to trade in. You don't need a trade in. When you switch to T mobile, we'll give you a new iPhone 16 Pro. Plus we'll help you pay off your old Phone up to 800 bucks and you still get to keep it. There's always a trade in. Not right now. @ T Mobile. I feel like I have to give you something in return for karma. That's okay. I don't really have much in my purse. Oh, let's see. Hand sanitizer. It's lavender. I'm good. Seriously. Hmm. Let me check this pocket. Oh, mints. Really, I'm fine. Oh, I have raisins. I'm a mom. Wait, wait one sec. I've got cupcakes in the car. 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They're wearing Kobe's shirt. They're watching Black Panther and the challenges of being a black founder. Close your eyes and tell me what a tech founder looks like. They're not going to describe someone who looks like me and they're not going to describe someone who looks like you. I created There are no girls on the Internet because the future belongs to all of us. So listen to There are no girls on the Internet on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm a mate. Rail Girl. Let's get into it now. A spoiler free movie review materialist starring three superheroes in a non superhero movie. You have Dakota Johnson AKA Madame Web, Pedro Pascal, who is going to be Reed Richards in the new Fantastic Four movie. And you have the one and only Chris Evans AKA Captain America. Can Dakota Johnson recover her public image or her image with me? Not that she cares about how I feel about her movies after Madame Web. And I was actually a big Dakota Johnson fan prior to Madame Web. And even I thought, man, if an actor does One movie, is it really going to change my perception of them? And it wasn't just that the movie was bad, it was also how she handled it that made me think a little bit differently about her. But I loved her in Peanut Butter Falcon Cha Cha, real smooth. And I think most people still associate her with the 50 shades of grey movies and I never even got into those movies. But what this movie is about, she plays a young New York City matchmaker. She works at this business where it's kind of like a bumble, except instead of doing it on the app, you work with a person who helps you find people to date. So kind of like a travel agent would find you places to go and set up your trips. You go to this person. It's very high end concierge, like, okay, here's what I want, here's what I'm looking for. And her job is to set people up. And she's really good at her job. At the start of the movie she has been responsible so far for nine marriages and she loves doing it. Problem is it starts to affect how she sees people. She sees bank accounts, she sees height and weight, she looks at people just as stats. And she has an ex boyfriend played by Chris Evans. And then she meets a new guy who is a super rich, successful guy, charming, good looking, played by Pedro Pascal. So what we have is a classic love triangle between does she want to go back to her ex who has a lot of imperfections and you find out more and more details, how long they were together, why they broke up, or does she want to go all in on this new guy who is coming in, sweeping her off her feet and able to give her a life that she only imagined having because dude has a lot of money. And there are three things this movie did and brought back that has me excited for romcoms, which the rom com genre has evolved a lot since the 90s and early 2000s where we might associate a lot of Adam Sandler movies where the overall tone of them is a lot more comical, probably leans more into the comm. And I think there are still those type of rom coms coming out. Look at anyone but you. With Sydney Sweeney and Glen Powell, you still have a genre that leans more into those classic things that just make you feel good, just make you not really have to use your brain a whole lot. And they're very predictable. And the materialist also still falls into that rom com genre, but the comedy is much different, it's much more subtle. So the three things I feel it is Bringing back one was the classic trailer. A version that they released of the trailer for the material list had a 2000s esque volume voiceover which I thought was perfect. We have not seen that in a very long time. In the world of matchmaking this weekend, your client is getting. No one plays the game better than Lucy. Six two. Doctor, lawyer, banker. I get along much better with girls in their 20s, but love isn't part of her equation. I don't want to fight about money with my boyfriend. You know how hard it is to make you happy. This the m the eternal bachelorette. I'm gonna die alone or get a rich husband. Because that style of trailer is so outdated. You don't really put out trailers where you have the big voiceover guy anymore because it just doesn't really fit in today's world. Doesn't really make people want to see movies anymore. I think trailers have a really hard time fitting so much into two and a half minutes. But I really enjoyed the version they put out with that voiceover because it kind of gave me a different perspective going into this thinking, okay, they're gonna try to bring back that 2000 style rom com but make it feel very modern. Number two, they brought back smoking, which is not good whatsoever. I don't promote it, don't encourage it, but just to see smoking in a movie again, I thought was a really interesting play because that's just something you don't see anymore. Back in the 80s and 90s, you'd see it all the time and not even think about it. I think just the idea of putting smoking in a movie in 2025 is a really bold statement. So to me, that was saying, let's bring back some of these classic Hollywood things. Is it weird to say things from the 90s and early 2000s are classic Hollywood things now? But it is because much around the 2000 where we started to see really how bad smoking was and stop trying to promote it to young people, which I still believe, like you should not be promoting smoking or vaping or anything like that. That just has a crazy effect on your body. But I think there's something, I hate to say it, there's something cool the way it looks on screen knowing that they're not smoking real cigarettes because I don't really see Dakota Johnson's character and think she's going to be one to smoke. And when she does, it makes me feel a different way about her. And number three, it brought back really witty D dialogue, which I think that's a thing that doesn't really get emphasized enough in modern romcoms is having great quotes, having great monologues, having moments that are so impactful that you could pull them from this movie and start to place them onto these other iconic moments in romcoms that we all remember. Because if people are still saying the monologue from When Harry Met Sally is one of the best rom com monologues of all time, I'm going to throw something through the window next to me here because I'm tired of the same old things getting referenced all the time. We need new moments like this. And why haven't we had new moments like this is because nobody is writing them. And now in this movie, there are those moments where it hits you in the feels, not only on an emotional level, but even on a comedic level, where all the movies with great movie quotes that we used to have back in the 2000s, 2010s. It was one of the only movies I've seen this year that I. I thought everything on the page was as important as everything being shown on screen. Not just the big stars, not just the director. They thought, we need to make a great script and turn it into a great movie. Not just, okay, let's take a decent script and then kind of figure it out as we go. Maybe in editing through marketing, we can make this movie profitable. There was also a lot of great chemistry between Dakota Johnson and Chris Evans, between Dakota Johnson and Pedro Pascal, which really emphasized the love triangle. And as the viewer, you are rooting for different people to end up with other people. And that was the fun part about it. And I know people, I guess, hate the love triangle trope at this point. I know even some actors will say, I don't want to be cast in a movie where there's a love triangle. And people will be like, okay, we won't put you in a love triangle. They get there and they're like, read the script. I'm in a love triangle. So I feel like that formula is probably a little bit cliche, but in this case, it works so well because at times I was like, oh, I want her to end up with this guy. No, no, I want to end up with this guy. No, she should definitely end up with this guy. I think the love triangle, as cliche as it might be, it works, especially in this movie, because the two guys are so different. One of them is down on their luck, but he's the old boyfriend. And there's always those feelings you have towards your X in this situation with Dakota Johnson. And then you have the New guy who is flashy and new and has all these things he can flaunt and money that he can just throw around. This movie comes to us from director Celine Strong, who I mentioned in last week's episode, had her debut with Past Lives and I think is really starting to create a style for herself, which I love. The use of intimate cinematography in this. I also love that even though we've seen New York City a thousand times in movies, it really felt like a character within itself because you had these really big up close and personal shots between all the lead actors, but then also peeled back a little bit and showed you New York City in a fresh way. And I thought that was really like the backdrop of it that fit perfectly paired with a really great score throughout the movie that was subtle and the way it set itself apart from other rom coms and maybe even this was just a budgeting thing that they didn't have money to spend on a lot of songs that were well known because that's what you see in a lot of rom coms. It's just like, all right, let's throw in some songs that are popular right now that'll hit with the demographic. We want to go see this movie. But instead of that, they use a really great score that at times was like really kind of charging and pushing the tension along. I thought that fit perfectly with the backdrop of New York City and all these really great, well dressed people. Dakota Johnson's fashion was at a 10. Pedro Pascal was also like, very sophisticated and rich looking. And then you have Chris Evans, who just looks good in anything. But Celine Strong has this blend of modern and classic romance. And I think that's what really made this movie set itself apart from anything else out there right now. And what really is giving her films right now a very unique profile. So the cast was stacked. Three really great actors who are very highly in demand right now. So much so that I wonder how many dates they actually had with Pedro Pascal to film this movie because he is in so many things right now. I mean, Last of Us, Fantastic Four dude just pops up everywhere. And I think at times that just kind of showed a little bit, because how can you be so in demand and in so many things and also dedicate enough time to really have your character have enough presence throughout the movie? I'm starting to feel the same way about Sydney Sweeney too, where she's in so many things right now and using the marketing for all these movies and posters and trailers. And then you actually watch the movies and you think Man, I bet she was just filming this in between filming something else. But the social commentary was also top notch. There were some lines that were really impactful from these characters that you really felt it when they said them. And the balance of humor was also perfect. One of my biggest complaints though, in movies right now, that just triggers me and we got to stop doing this. Stop putting the iPhone alarm sound. In movies, use a different tone. Use something else. Because whenever I hear that tone that I start freaking out. I feel like I'm waking up out of a dream. I'm about to be late for work. Let's stop putting the iPhone alarm sound. In movies, even the phone ringing is kind of annoying. If you're going to bring stuff back, just bring back them. Having for some reason a classic alarm clock. So this movie really lived up to my expectations. It is rare for me to find a perfect movie, but this one I think is really close. It's hard to compare it to Past lives too, because they are two very different films as far as the story. 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I'm Nyla Simone, breaking down lyrics, amplifying voices, and digging into the culture that shapes the soundtrack of our lives. My favorite line on there was, my son and my daughter gonna be proud when they hear my old tapes. Y now I'm curious. Do they, like, rap along now? Yeah. Cause I bring him on tour with me, and he's getting older now, too, so his friends are starting to understand what that type of music is. And they're starting to be like, yo, your dad's like, really the goat. Like, he's a legend, so he gets it. What does it mean to leave behind a music legacy for your family? It means a lot to me. Just having a good catalog and just being able to make people feel good. Like, that's what's really important and that's what stands out, is that my music changes people's lives for the better. So the fact that my kids get to benefit off of that, I'M really happy or my family in general. Let's talk about the music that moves us to hear this and more on how music and culture collide. Listen to we need to Talk from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast adventure should never come with a pause button. Remember the MoviePass era where you could watch all the movies you wanted for just $9? It made zero sense and I could not stop thinking about it. I'm Bridget Todd, host of the tech podcast There Are no Girls on the Internet. On this new season, I'm talking to the innovators who are left out of the tech headlines, like the visionary behind MoviePass, Black founder Stacey Spikes, who was pushed out of MoviePass, the company that he he founded. His story is wild and it's currently the subject of a juicy new HBO documentary. We dive into how culture connects us. When you go to France or you go to England or you go to Hong Kong, those kids are wearing Jordans, they're wearing Kobe's shirt. They're watching Black Panther and the challenges of being a Black Founder. Close your eyes and tell me what a tech founder looks like. They're not going to describe describe someone who looks like me. And they're not going to describe someone who looks like you. I created There are no girls on the Internet because the future belongs to all of us. So listen to There are no girls on the Internet, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's time to head down to Movie Mike's Trailer Park. If an actor is in everything, are they really in anything? That is my deep question for the Trailer Park. And what I mean is if an actor who is so hot, so in demand, does so many projects that says, oh, everybody wants to work with him, they're making so much money. For most actors, there's a very limited amount of time where you are this hot, where all the projects are firing, everybody's calling because you're putting money in other people's pockets. And I can't hate on an actor for taking as many roles as possible because in a creative field, you often don't know when your next role is gonna come. But if somebody like Pedro Pascal, which we've been talking about in this episode, when talking about materialists, how I started to notice that I don't know if he's on set this entire time. I decided to talk about the new trailer for Eddington, because here we are again. Pedro Pascal in Another movie coming out this year. If he's in so many movies, is he really in anything? I want to do a investigation on how many movies an A list actor like Pedro Pascal actually has time for in a year. I want to talk about how that affects how we start to feel about these people. Is there over saturation? But the movie is coming to us from director Ari Aster, who has done horror movies like Hereditary and Midsommar, which Midsommar, I think you probably say it Midsommar, but I like to say it fancy. Like Midsommar is a horror movie that I recommended to a lot of people early on in this podcast because it is one of my favorite horror movies of the 2010s just because it's so dark and twisted and unconventional. And I feel like when Hereditary came out, everybody loved that movie. I'm just a bigger fan of Midsommar and when I recommended that, I didn't realize how kind of messed up and twisted that movie is and not a lot of people like it. That is the one I probably got the most pushback for recommending. So now I don't really ever recommend Mid Summer anymore because I think that's just a style of horror movie that I just personally like. I'm a fan of Ari's directing and I think he is a pretty interesting director overall, even though his last movie didn't do as well. But he's still a relatively new director and now he is taking on a very polarizing topic in his new movie. Because Eddington follows the story of political and social turmoil in a fictional city of Eddington, New Mexico, caused by the COVID 19 pandemic. It is taking place in a fictional town. Joaquin Phoenix and Pedro Pascal are in this heated small town race for mayor. And the movie is going to dive into how chaotic it was at that time. It's going to cover social distancing, protests, conspiracy theories. Eddington is coming out in theaters on July 18th. Before we talk more about this and about Pedro Pascal, here's just a little bit of the Eddington trailer. These are your streets. No, they're your streets to be fake. You know how death works. Yeah. People are going to be looking here now. Keep your own office going, but you're going to run mine. So vote Joe Cross. Take back our community. Hell yeah. Save our soul. This movie looks very stylistic. Trailer closes out in a very dramatic way. It stars Joaquin Phoenix, Pedro Pascal, Emma Stone, Austin Butler and Luke Grimes. Joaquin Phoenix appears to be the main character. He is the small town sheriff in this fictional New Mexico town where he challenges the mayor, played by Pedro Pascal, in a Pandemic set situation. The movie is being described as a western thriller in and black comedy film. So Pedro Pascal is playing a guy named Ted Garcia, who is the mayor of this town running for re election. Joaquin Phoenix plays the town sheriff named Joe Cross. His wife is played by Emma Stone, playing Louise Cross. Austin Butler plays a guy named Vernon Jefferson Peak. And Luke Grimes plays Guy, which I always thought that was an interesting name. I always thought it was a fake name because I only ever heard it in movies. I remember from Never Been Kissed, the guy in that was named Guy. I've never met a guy in real life named Guy, but in this movie, Luke Grimes plays a guy named Guy, and he's also a officer at the sheriff's office. And director Ari Aster originally thought this was going to be the first movie he was going to make. It was actually written five years before he even started Hereditary, but then decided to make Hereditary Midsommar first. And it wasn't until he started promoting his third film, Beau Is Afraid, which also stars Joaquin Phoenix, that he said, my next movie is going to be one about the COVID 19 pandemic, which is also weird to refer to it as the COVID 19 pandemic, but that's how it's being described. So let's talk about Pedro Pascal, because it seems right now that he is everywhere. And I think every actor aspires to have this level of heat on them where everybody wants a piece of them, their schedule is full. And I think to reach that level of fame, at some point, people have to be sick of you. And. And Pedro Pascal, it seems to a lot of people is maybe just an overnight success, but he's been doing this a long time. His breakout role first came to us in 2014 when he was in an episode of Game of Thrones. And even that came later in his career. He was 39 years old when he was on Game of Thrones, and he's now 50. So why is he so popular now? I decided to do some investigating because I think the thing that really started to put him in the minds of everybody was him landing the role on the Mandalorian, which started back in 2019. And I think the thing that has really cemented him as of late was being cast as Joel in the Last of us in 2023, where I think people started to look at him differently. And that show was so good and so groundbreaking when it came out, it started to show people his emotional range. His dramatic power. People started to kind of put the pieces together of other movies and TV shows they've seen him in like, oh, he was the guy at Narcos, but now it's like, oh, he's the star of this show. But for Pedro Pascal, I think his next big role and the thing that's really good a cement him in this a list here is going to be his role coming up as Reed Richards in Fantastic Four. That is just going to cement him there. And that is kind of the pinnacle of anybody's career. Can you be in a big Hollywood production and put butts in seats? So if that movie proves to be as successful as I'm hoping, I think that is going to cement him in. Okay, so it's not really that he's an overnight success. It's that his long haul career is starting to pay off. And to us it just feels like, oh my gosh, we see him and everything now, but really he's been grinding for so long. Very rarely in Hollywood does somebody become an overnight success. You just have to put in your dues doing small roles and eventually landing that one that really just starts to land with people and then you become this in demand. Because if you look at the movies he's been in just the last five years, I mean, he was in Wonder Woman 1984 in 2020, which I think I'm the only person who enjoyed that movie. But that also came to us at a time where we weren't getting any movies. It was in 2020, which ties back into this movie now, Eddington, because I was just so happy at that point to have a good movie, superhero movie that I was able to watch at home. That movie and a lot of other movies that came out that year that were new have a special place in my heart. Have I gone back and re watched that movie since? No. So I'm just happy what that movie did for me when it did come out. He was also in the Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent with Nick Cage, which I thought was an underrated comedy. He was in Drive Away Dolls last year, which was a really quick role. Pretty much just in it at the beginning. And this is where you start to see how limited he has been in some of these movies. He was in Gladiator 2 last year. He was a voice actor in the Wild Robot last year. He was also in the Uninvited Freaky Tales. And then this year has been in Materialists. Eddington will be in Fantastic Four. And then it looks like he is also going to be unless they change the release date again. But in Avengers, Doomsday, because that's kind of what we're all building up to. And on the TV side, of course, he has been in the Last of Us. And if you start to look at all these projects, I have to imagine a majority of his time had to go to dedicating time to film Fantastic Four. Because on average, top tier A list actors usually only do one to two movies a year. It breaks down to. First of all, actors are picky at this level because they often wait for the best projects, the best directors, the biggest paydays and roles that are going to maintain their brand because that is what they have to think about now. It's not just about, okay, I need to be able to earn enough money this year. It starts to be about, I have to think of myself as an entity and what is going to make sense in my filmography right now. So Pedro Pascal is an interesting person because he can do anything. He has a very wide range where he can do the smaller budget, a 24 movies like we're already seeing them in this year, but then also can do big movies like Fantastic Four and then go back to HBO Max and do Last of Us. So he has that on his side where he doesn't have to account for a big action movie every single year because you're going to run out of good scripts if you do that. He can actually hop around to different genres, different mediums, and just search for the best scripts. Another reason they usually only do one to two movies per year is because fans like us start to have expectations on them and they always want to continue that hot streak. So sometimes they might do three or more films in a year, but if one of those dips just a little bit, as we've seen, and we're talking about earlier with Dakota Johnson, that can start to change the way you feel about your favorite actors. But if you have your action guys like the Rock, Jason Statham, they can probably get away with doing two to four movies a year because they're kind of always living in that same genre. Their range of characters isn't as vast. So they're kind of doing the same thing over and over again and just trying to find a movie, at least one that really hits. And they also will take on smaller cameos and smaller roles, but oftentimes through a little manipulation in the promotion, you can put them right there on the poster and say, we got Pedro Pascal in this movie and his face is right here. But then when you Go watch that movie in theaters or click it at home. You might think to yourself, man, he really wasn't in that as much as they promoted him. He was all over the trailer. But when I actually watched the movie, he wasn't there as much. So they do that trickery as well. So that is somebody who is still on the up and up might not be as established as other A list actors because if you look at people like Leonardo DiCaprio, he typically only does one movie every two to three years. It is very unusual for him to do one movie a year, which I think he's at least leaning more into at least doing one every two years right now. Like one battle after another is coming out later this year with him and Benicio del Toro on September 26, somebody like a Ryan Reynolds or Kevin Hart might put out two to three movies per year, but maybe two of those are live action and one of them is an animated movie that takes less of their time to sit down in a booth and do all the lines. But if you think back to the height of the mcu, Scarlett Johansson at times was doing two movies a year, two of those big projects. So pretty much an average A lister will do one to two major films per year if they are A list and really busy and usually on the rise and kind of a hot streak. So your Pedro Pascals, your Sydney Sweeney's, your Austin Butlers, your Timothy Chalamet, your Zendaya's, they could do up to three, maybe four movies a year to mix in genres, have bigger and smaller roles, and they also don't want to have a bunch of movies coming out close to each other because then it kind of becomes a mess to promote, which is what kind of Pedro Pascal is running into right now, because Materialist just came out, Eddington is coming out on July 18th, and right after that, on July 25th, we have fantastic Four. So here's what I'm talking about. It's all just jumbled up. So hopefully that is a great 1, 2, 3 movie streak for him. I think even if Eddington doesn't live up to expectations, it's not really good to Dingham because I think the hype of Fantastic Four is going to be too great. So good for him. A great time to be his publicist and probably a great time to be his money person. And that was this week's edition of Movie Minds trailer par. And that is going to do it for another episode here of the podcast. Before I go, I got to give my listener shout out of the week. This week I'm going over to my YouTube channel, which is YouTube.com Mike D. I think I just hit 600 followers. I'm trying to get to a thousand. So if you're listening and you love YouTube and you want to watch individual movie reviews over there and interviews as well, go subscribe. Hit the bell. You get brand new videos every single Monday, the same day that this podcast gets released. But this week's listener shout out of the week goes to Phow, who commented on last week's review where I talked about is Wes Henderson still cool after watching the Phoenician Scheme? And Fallow said, I find Wes Anderson movies to be a bit hit or miss. When his films land, they're amazing, but when they don't, I tend to find myself stuck in some abstract purgatory. Good vid though. Appreciate that Fallow, which I kind of forget that I'm a really big Wes Anderson fan overall and that they're not for everybody. So appreciate you guys indulging me in talking about one of my favorite directors last week. But at times I do feel that way about his work too, where I wasn't the biggest fan of the French Dispatch and even if I love one of his movies visually and can't get into it emotionally or story wise, it does get tough for me too. So I could see that. So maybe to Sometimes it feels to people who aren't a fan of his work a little bit like having to watch a movie for homework. And that's not fun. But I honestly think the Phoenician Scheme was one of his more emotional movies that actually had a good storyline to follow along with all the kookiness and symmetrical visuals. So appreciate that Fallow. 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