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MOVIE MIKE: What ‘A Goofy Movie’ Means To Me + Ryan Coogler on Representation in Film + Movie Review: Sinners + Trailer Park: Another Simple Favor
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Movie Mike
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Movie Mike
Hello and welcome back to Movie Mike's Movie Podcast. I am your host, Movie Mike, and today we're getting a little bit personal. I'm going to talk about what a goofy movie means to me. If you're a long time listener to this podcast. You know I'm a huge fan of it. Disney plus came out with a documentary. I watched the entire thing. I went back re watched the movie and I have all my feelings on why this movie changed my life. In the movie review, we'll be talking about Sinners, which is directed by Ryan Coogler. I also got to talk to Ryan Coogler about representation in film. So we'll get to that. And in the trailer park. Oh boy, a lot of drama. Another simple favor. It's a sequel that's coming out as Blake Lively. It has Anna Kendrick with all that's going on in. Oh, just the behind the scenes of this movie. Will this movie be able to eclipse all that and rise above and just be good on its own, or will it be terrible? Thank you for being here. Thank you for being subscribed. Shout out to the movie crew and and now let's talk movies from the Nashville Podcast network.
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Sam Mullins
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Movie Mike
The documentary I watched was called Not Just a Goof. It's on Disney plus. Before I get into what a goofy movie means to me, what I learned after watching this documentary is that Disney didn't really know what they had. They almost messed up, they almost fumbled the bag, and I would argue they still don't really know what they have because a goofy movie has such a big burning fan base and it is arguably one of the only Disney cult classics. Where Disney was when this movie came out. I'll start with the inception of it because it was kind of in the late 80s that was starting to form this storm that led to a goofy movie. Because in the mid to late 80s, Disney was in what is referred to as the Xerox era, where. Where their animation just wasn't cutting it. It just wasn't making them a lot of money. Xerox refers to the process they were using, which was a lot of repurposing of backgrounds. The character design was kind of lazy. And overall the movement and the feeling of the movies really just wasn't popping on screen. The movies weren't making money. Even though one of my favorite Disney movies, Oliver & Co. Is a part of this era, if you go back and watch that movie, you can kind of see how it doesn't have that same feeling of animation that came in the Renaissance era. That came with movies like Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, and eventually Lion King that just blew the lid off of everything. So they started to look around at the characters that Disney has had since the beginning. And you Have Goofy, who has been around as one of Mickey Mouse's best friends, but has never had a full length feature. So they thought, all right, let's make a movie about Goofy. And they get a guy named Kevin Lima to direct the whole movie. And Kevin Lima has to decide, what do I want to make this story about? How do I flesh out a character who is really only known for his insane wackiness, his physical comedy, his one liner is like, that is Goofy. He's very over the top. And how do you make a person like that human? And how do you give him characteristics that an audience is going to identify with? So Kevin Lima decides that this should be a story about Goofy and his son. And it has to be about them bonding. And that is the heart of a Goofy movie. If for some reason you've never seen a Goofy movie, here's what the movie is about. A Goofy movie is about Max, who has a crush on a girl, and his dad happens to be Goofy. He goes through this big elaborate scheme to impress her by dressing up and acting out a performance of a musician named Power Line in front of the entire school. He gets busted. Goofy thinks that, oh man, Max is gonna end up in jail. He's gonna end up being a really bad kid if I don't get through to him because his best friend Pete has convinced him of this. So Goofy decides he's going to take his son Max on a cross country fishing trip and that's going to solve everything. Problem is, Max has already promised to go out on a date with his crush Roxanne. And instead of saying, I have to go with my dad, he lies to her and saying, my dad is actually friends with that Power Line guy that we're all a big fan of. And we're going to Los Angeles so we can be a part of his show. And you know what? I'm going to wave to you once he brings us up on stage during that final number. While you're at this party that I'm supposed to be at, and it's going to be awesome and you're going to be mine. And the reason I say Disney didn't know what they had is because there were a lot of changes that happened during this time of a Goofy movie getting made. There were some changes in the Powers that Be, the head of the studio, who was the champion of the movie, and what they were trying to do was make a movie for a relatively low budget. I believe it was $10 million that they were working with. And that is essentially an animated TV show budget. But they were trying to say, could we make it on this amount of budget, but still make the amount that we make for a movie like the Little Mermaid? And once that head of Disney was no longer a part of the picture, the next guy who came in was like, what are we doing with this? Why are we spending so much money on a Goofy movie? We got to just get this thing out. And they downgraded the premiere. They scrapped all the merchandise, and they thought, this is not going to do any good. It rolled out into theaters. It got really bad reviews from critics. Siskel and Ebert hated it. Everybody said that to Kevin Lima, like, you ruined the character of Goofy. This is not the Goofy we know. And they didn't realize what they had because once they started putting it on the Disney Channel, the VHS rolled out. It started connecting with audiences. The movie came out in 95. Like I mentioned, I was probably 4 years old. I didn't go see it in theaters, but I remember having that VHS tape. And this movie was so impactful on me because it didn't feel like any other Disney movie out there. It wasn't animals talking to each other, even though, I mean, Goofy is like a half man, half dog. But it wasn't like Lion King. It wasn't like under the Sea feel like a fairy tale. It didn't feel like there was this overarching big moral like you would find in a traditional Disney movie, even though there are a lot of big themes and a lot of big morals in a Goofy movie. But aside from that, it also felt so 90s, if I had to say. What is the most 90s movie of all time? I think I'm going with the Goofy movie. If you look at the music in this movie, the fashion in this movie, that is one of the only Disney movies that is so representative. And I'm only talking animation here. One of the only animated Disney movies that represents this time period just so well. From the opening number of seeing Max with the big sunglasses, the oversized clothes that are so colorful, the baggy jeans, the baggy shirts, you have the goth kids. Everything about this movie is so 90s. From the technology, it is fantastically 90s. And what Disney didn't see is how the movie was connecting with audiences, because you really couldn't show your fandom for the movie, aside from buying as many VHS tapes as you could afford, which why would you do that? We would buy one that we'd pass around among all the families. They didn't have merchandise. There was nothing for me to grasp onto to show how much I love this movie. But as a kid, I couldn't see a difference in animation between a Goofy movie and the Lion King. Maybe later, once we had Toy Story and A Bug's Life and it got a little bit more digital, you could kind of start to see the difference. But to me, it was just a great story. I also love the fact that there was no real hero or evil person, which in most animated Disney movies, there's always like, the Evil Queen, the bad King, somebody awful that the hero has to fight and overcome and in some way defeat. This is such a grounded story that I think that they were worried that it wasn't going to connect with audiences, that it needed more of the goofiness and the wackiness, because there are so many moments of just realness and rawness in a Goofy movie that it takes a lot of risk. It's also a shorter movie. In re watching this movie, I was surprised that it was under an hour and 20 minutes. But that's probably why I watched this movie so much as a kid, because it was just on a continuous loop. So I think that was my main takeaway from watching the documentary, is that Disney is all about capitalizing on things, monetizing things. They're just not in the business of making cult classics, which here, 30 years later, we're still talking about this movie. And the fact that this movie is 30 years old is a little unsettling to me as well. I think the other thing after watching this documentary was how much attention to detail there actually was. Primarily with the final scene. Whenever Goofy and Max finally make it to Los Angeles, make it to the Power Line concert, there's a whole big dance number that I didn't realize. They had a real person come in and dance as Power Line, real backup dancers. They had someone stand in as Goofy. They had someone stand in his Max. And they filmed this all like they would a normal music video. And what the animators did was actually take all those dance moves and make that final number that we see on the screen. That is amazing to me. And they said that that scene wouldn't have worked if they had not done that. And that's kind of expensive to do to bring in real dancers to actually pull that off. But that's such an iconic moment. Kevin Lima just really wanted to make a great movie and just how kind of dejected he was once he lost his champion, once he realized that it wasn't getting recepted the way he thought because he worked so hard on it with all the animations and all the notes and all the things that went wrong. Movie almost didn't see the light of day because when they were animating it, they realized that there was this little black dot in the left corner of the screen that they had to go back and reshoot a whole bunch, which. Not film it, reshoot. But when you actually animate a movie, you're, like, taking pictures with an actual film camera. And there was a black dot in the corner the whole time, and they had to redo that, get a new contraption to do that. And that was really expensive. There were so many times that this movie easily could have been shelved. Whenever they filmed a scene of Max and Roxanne kissing, the two voice actors actually kissed in real life. And that was a little awkward. I don't think they needed to do that. I've never really heard an animation ever, because it's also kind of rare that people are in the same room when it comes to animation and recording things. Usually they do it all separate. That's kind of the appeal sometimes to animation is actors can come in, do it on their own time. I think the last time I really remember this happening was when they did the last animated Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie, and they had all the teenage actors actually in a room recording those lines together to kind of give it that feeling of camaraderie. But for the most part, they're never in the same room. In this case, Jason Marsden, who is the voice of Max, had to kiss Roxanne in real life. I don't know if that was necessary. I don't know if, as a kid, that emotion came across, but that was kind of wild to see. So that is what I learned from the documentary. Now, what this movie means to me as a kid, this was kind of my guidebook to those preteen and teenage years. Max is 14 years old in the movie. And what I took away as a kid from watching a goofy movie is in order to impress a girl, you gotta be a rock star. That opening scene was so influential on me because that's what I wanted to be. When I was 13, 14 years old, I wanted to be a rock star. Because up until that point, no girls showed me any attention. And I thought, man, if I could just be like Max trying to be like Powerline, that is the way I got to go. And that is what I did. I learned how to play guitar, started playing in a band, and for the majority of middle school and high school, that was really my only, like, hey, this is what I got here. I could play guitar. That was my only cool factor, and that is what I relied on. And just like Max in a goofy movie, I would get hyper fixated on one girl. I always had one crush, and my only goal in life was to get that girl to notice me. And I thought if she would just show me or give me the time of day, that's all I need. And that is exactly how I felt. And I was exactly Max in the situation where I had a girl in mind that I was all about just trying to impress and hadn't even had a conversation with her, didn't know if she knew I existed or not. And it taught me about the links that we go through as teenagers to impress our crush. And the crazy thing upon re watching this movie was that I don't really remember Roxanne actually being into him and showing those feelings back. I was like, max, you got this, dude. She's already talking to you. To me. I never got to that point. I never got to the point of impressing a girl, even learning how to play guitar, being in a band, playing shows, and trying to be somewhat level of cool. That didn't work for me. And while I was watching this, I was like, max, you had this. She actually got nervous around you. Dude, why don't you do this? Earlier, you didn't need to dress up like power lines. You probably just would have dated you. But I think that was the one point that they didn't really make in the documentary. What they focused on more was the story of Max and Goofy. And I did learn from that as a kid. What I took away from it then and why it resonated so much with me is that I learned, just because your dad can't express it, it doesn't mean that he doesn't love you. My dad and I have an interesting relationship. I love my dad. He's been a great dad. He has always been there to provide for me, to show me that he loves me. Showed me a lot of affection as a kid. But I think whenever I got a little bit older, it was harder for him to express that to me. And even though I knew my dad loved me because I saw the links he went through to put food on the table, to try to be there as much as he could once I got older, he didn't really express it to me as much. Even though I knew the love was there, we just kind of got a little bit more separated in those feelings. Because I think as I got older, started being into Things that he didn't understand, like music with trying to impress girls. We started to have less in common. Where when I was a kid, I worshiped my dad. I was all about my dad, wanted to go on the road with him, riding in his 18 wheeler. And once I became less interested in that, I think he thought we kind of drifted away a little bit from watching a Goofy movie and realizing that and seeing it from his perspective, it kind of allowed me to know that, oh, my dad is kind of probably worry that we're not going to be as close as we once were. And I think it was the scene with Max and Goofy after they have the encounter with Bigfoot and they realize that they're not in a good place. And they're remembering back on stories of when Max was a kid, which again, this movie was based on the series Goof Troop, which, oh, that was a good series. Oh, 90s animated shows. Oh, that was my jam. But in that series, Max was a little bit younger. And in this scene in the movie, they're talking back and remembering the things that Max would do as a kid. And he mentions hi dad soup, where Goofy would make him soup and Max would spell out things in his soup like, hi, dad. And they're like remembering all the things that he would spell. Max is making a joke about it. And then Goofy's like, oh, yeah. Or like, I love you. And then there's silence because they're just not really communicating on that level where Max doesn't want to be like his dad. At the beginning of the movie, he has that nightmare that he's hanging out with Roxanne. And then he turns into Goofy. That laugh kicks in, his teeth get big his mouth, and it's now he just turns into Goofy. That is his worst nightmare. And Goofy's worst nightmare is that he's going to end up in jail. And all the things that he does in efforts to prevent that from happening, all the advice he is taking from Pete in that moment, they are just like, oh, we're not good right now. Even though the other doesn't want to say it. And that was kind of the other thing that I started to learn watching it now in my 30s, even though don't have kids, Kelsey's not pregnant. And I know a lot of people in my age now do have kids. And they talk about re watching it in their 30s and feeling more for Goofy. And I can see that here too, because what the movie also focuses on and what it teaches you is there are different levels of parenting because you see Goofy who just wants to love his son and let his son be who he is and know that he's raised them in a way, even though mom's not in the picture, they make references in the TV show that she has passed. They don't really mention it a whole lot in the movie, but you kind of assume that something happened to his mom. So he's been a single dad just trying his best. But he believes in his son, even though he knows that his son's not traditionally all the things that Pete wants his son to be. Because Pete is just training his son to respect him. That's all he cares about. He doesn't care if he likes him. He just wants respect. He wants him to get things done. He wants him to be at his side if he calls for him. He just wants them to respect him. Goofy just wants him to love him. And I think people who re watch this movie now as an adult with kids, you probably start to side with Goofy because you think, Max, why don't you just want to hang out with your dad? Why don't you just want to spend time with him instead of running away and doing all these things to push him away? And you can probably start to feel like, well, my dad felt of that fear of drifting away from your kids. And it's just inevitable. It's a part of life that you're going to change, your relationships are going to change, and you're going to look back on those early days and realize they've gone by so fast again. We don't have kids, but even when I hear people talk about how time moves so fast that your kids grow before you know it, I'm already getting sad at the fact that my kids are growing up too fast and they don't even exist yet. So I think that was the main takeaway from the documentary and what I feel now more watching it with those eyes. What this movie also means to me, it's a great representation of pre teen angst. Just that feeling of, like, nobody understanding you, wanting to do what you want to do, but still being a kid, still managing to find yourself in trouble. But at the end of the day, you still want to do the right thing, which is what Max battles throughout this movie. He starts to feel bad about his plan. Even when him and Goofy start bonding. There's the point of the movie where they're really getting along. But Max knows that the reason they're getting along is because he's kind of faking it. He's changed the map so they don't end up at their fishing spot. They end up at the Power Line concert in la. And Goofy thinks just by easing up on him a little bit that he's allowed him to take a breath. And that is what has made their relationship flourish. But there are a lot of moments like this that go back and forth of them being good, not being good, being a little bit closer, but then being ripped apart. And you really see them be tested throughout every phase of this movie. And it does it really quickly. And there's just not really Disney movies like this anymore where you feel this real life tension between two characters and get this level of emotional depth that I don't know that they were really thinking that this was going to come across the way it did. Because it also has a lot of fun gags. There's a lot of things that Goofy does that are traditional things that he would do. Max gets in on it a little bit. A lot of still ridiculous 90s things that make this movie fun. But it has one of the biggest hearts out of any animated movie ever. And I think that is why it has such a dedicated fan base now and also why it resonated so much with families at that time. This was one of my go to movies with my family that we would watch over and over again. So I pulled my top five quotes that my mom loves from a Goofy movie. At number five is a big part of the movie. You see it early on and you see it come into play later in the movie. It's Goofy teaching Max an old family tradition.
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Sam Mullins
Let me show you a little family secret handed down through about 12 or 13 goof generations. The perfect cast. The perfect what? The perfect cast.
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Movie Mike
I think every time I've gone fishing, I have mentioned the perfect cast since then. At number four, the nerd who goes off very uncharacteristically and starts basically cat calling the girl at the assembly at the beginning of the movie.
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Sam Mullins
Yo, Stacy, talk to me.
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Movie Mike
Talk to me.
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Sam Mullins
Talk to me, baby.
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Movie Mike
I always just thought that was funny. At number three again, it wouldn't have been an animated 90s movie without Paulie Shore and his character's obsession with Cheese. Yeah. At number two, this would be probably one of the movie quotes that my mom says the most. Two in one out of any movie ever out of the 90s. She quotes these all the time. And. And it's this one. Whenever Pete is telling Goof that his son Max is trying to pull one over on him and he gives him this advice. Check the map. Goof My mom says that all the time, just out of context for no reason. So that has become one of my favorites as well. But at number one was whenever they go to the possum park, because Goofy is taking them to all these places that he loved going to as a kid, things that he did with his dad because now he can do them with his son. And they go to this old ratchety possum park, which is funny in itself. And they witnessed one of the most horrific animatronic shows of all time. And then afterward, Goofy wants to get a picture with two of the possums that are just hanging there on this branch. And Goofy embarrasses Max by also hanging on the branch and everybody just laughing at them. And then some random kid drops this gem of a line. That's a great line. Dork and Dork Jr. Calling Goofy a dork for wearing the possum hat that he bought him at the gift shop. And Max for wearing it as well after getting attacked by a possum. So those are my top five quotes from a Goofy movie. Highly inspired by my mom, who also loves this movie, along with my entire family. We'd watch it all the time on VHS until for some reason my cousin decided to borrow it. And not an everyday normal cousin. My cousin, who at the time lived in Memphis, when we lived in Dallas, outside of Dallas, in Waxahachie, we were watching it and I remember him saying, oh, this is hilarious. You have to let me borrow it. You have to let me borrow it, bro. You live 12 hours away. You live in Memphis. You can't ask me to borrow it. And my mom, even though knowing we love this movie so much, she had us be nice and let him borrow a Goofy movie and maybe another movie that I can't remember at the moment. But I just remember after that, never watched a Goofy movie again on vhs because my cousin wanted to borrow it. So shout out to my cousin if you still have it. I would like that back, please. My top five songs from the Goofy movie. Even though there might only be six or seven, my top five on the open Road, that's whenever him and Max are first going out on the open road. I feel like that's probably the song that most critics saw and thought this is dumb. And it doesn't really fit all the other songs in the movie. I think it's important to it, but it has the most TV level vibes out of everything else. But I still enjoy that scene. But I could see now watching it with my movie reviewer Eyes. At times it feels like maybe they could have had a different song here, but it's still nostalgic to me. At number four, I have Lester's Possum park, which is the song that. The animatronic possum scene. That was a great scene. I still remember my mom also quoting the little girl who was in the audience just loving it, laughing the entire time. Great song. A little terrifying, but great song. Number three, which is a great top three after today, which is the big opening number at the beginning of the movie when Max is declaring that after today, his life is going to change because Roxanne is going to be all about him. That is just a fantastic sequence of animation and music. It also really speaks to how much I love summer. As a kid, I lived for summer. Last day of school was my favorite day of school because I cherished every moment at home during the summer. There was a period in time where I tried to see how long I could go without wearing a shirt in the summer because that was me saying that's like total relaxation mode. And I think I made it almost a week. But I love summer. And that is what that scene said to me. At number two is standout, which at the very beginning of the movie, that just has like a different feeling to me as a kid. Like that scenes felt so big to me. Re watching it now, it doesn't feel as big to me, obviously, but still, I love the lighting and the animation. Especially when you see Max on stage and he has the big shades and you have like the static behind him. That is just such a well orchestrated scene and the song fits it perfect. And that is pretty much the reoccurring power line song that is played until the ending. At number one is Eye to Eye, which I think is one of the best Disney songs of all time. Won't get the credit it deserves, but that song is a hit. They made a hit for this movie. I think if you would have put that song on the radio in the 90s, it would have been a hit. Eye to eye at number one and also would rank in my top ten Disney songs of all time. And for my final top five, the top five Foods I Wanted to Eat From a Goofy Movie. At number five, there's a moment where Max and Goofy are having a good time. They go to an amusement park and Max gets this amazing combination of junk food. And I always remember wanting that chili dog that he had on that plate. Goofy eats it, then he gets sick on a ride. But that always looked really good. To me, at number four, I have the Cheddar Aces. I always wanted to get cheese in a can as a kid, but my mom would never buy it for me because she thought it was too expensive. She was like, we're just getting regular cheese. And I tried it later, probably either a friend's house maybe when I was like 12 or 13. And I was really underwhelmed. I was let down at the fact that it was not as delicious as they made it look in this movie. But I would love that leaning tower of cheeza that I wish I could have eaten. At number three was the High Dad Soup. Not only did I love any character based soup as a kid, but any character based Mac and cheese. I was a big fan of the SpongeBob Mac and Cheese. Also the Pokemon Mac and Cheese. Any kind of noodle you could fit into a letter or a character I was all about. The soup looked delicious. It also really sparked my interest in cigarette lighters. I don't think I knew what they were until I watched this movie. And cars don't have them anymore. But I remember we had a 94 Bronco that had a cigarette lighter. And after watching this movie, I was like, oh, I know what this does now. I pushed it in and then I popped it out. And I did not realize how hot it gets so quickly. And I burned myself with it. So I still don't think you could heat a actual can of soup with this. But I learned the hard way that those things get hot really quick. And sometimes that is why they have to edit out scenes in movies. Because dumb kids like me try things they learn from movies. At number two is the diner. Breakfast. Movies in general had me believing that in my life I would be eating a whole lot more of breakfast foods in the shape of faces. Because Max gets a plate of food at this diner. The eggs are the eyes and the bacon is the smile. And I thought, man, at some point in my life, I'm going to go to all these restaurants where I get egg eyes and bacon smiles. I don't think I've ever had egg eyes and bacon smiles, But a goofy movie had me believing that it'd be in my diet a whole lot more than it ever was. But add number one and this would also go in my list of my top 10 movie foods of all time. The motel pizza that they get with that insane cheese pool. Max and PJ are pulling this pizza out of the box and it's like, oh, my gosh, that looks so good. In this random motel room. With the waterbed and the neon kind of lighting that looks like maybe there's a lava lamp in the corner. But all I could think about as a kid was like, oh, man, that looks so good. How do they make it look so delicious? And the sad thing is that type of pizza just doesn't exist where the cheese looks that rich and thick. So that is why a Goofy movie means so much to me. If you were a fan and still haven't seen the documentary, I still highly recommend it on Disney plus. I shared some of the big things, but I still think there's a lot you get out of it. Now that the movie is 30 years old, I think the question you have to have is, should they make another one? Which they did make a sequel. An extremely goofy movie that I also enjoyed is When Mac Goes to College. Extreme sports were huge at that time for me too. I was all into Tony Hawk, tried skateboarding myself, and my cousin broke his ankle. Different cousin, by the way. And my mom said, nope, you're not skateboarding anymore. But still love the sequel. But I think that is the question, because in 2025, Max would be 30 years older. He would be 44 years old. Probably what Goofy was in this movie. Although I have to imagine he was probably in his 30s. 30 was. Seemed way older back in the 90s. It was like, wow, you're 30 years old. Or maybe it's just because now I'm 33, gonna be 34 this year that I'm thinking, ah, 34 is not old. Maybe it is to a lot of kids still, but 34 in the 90s, just the way it was depicted on screen, just felt a lot older. Like Costanza and Seinfeld was like my age now, and he looks like he was 58. But you have to wonder, is it time for another Goofy movie? Will it be announced by the time I put this episode out? Because sometimes that's how it happens. I start talking about something and not knowing it's actually a thing. Where you have Max now in the position where Goofy was not being able to identify with this kid. I have to imagine if they were to make it another one, Max would have a girl just to kind of create a different dynamic. Kind of be like a girl meets world situation. And then Goofy is the grandpa. I think there's a story there. Power line on his reunion tour. Oh, man, I don't even care how much of a cash grab that would be. I think that would be monumental. And I think now with the fan base that this movie has Having older audiences that were a fan of the original who now have kids. That's not a straight to Disney plus release. That is a put it out in theaters make up for fumbling the first movie. I would gladly contribute to that cash grab. So that is what a goofy movie means to me. I'll come back and give my spoiler free review of Sinners and talk to the director Ryan Coogler.
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Sam Mullins
Introducing Instagram Teen Accounts A new way to keep your teen safer as they grow. Like making sure they always have their seatbelt on. Alright sweetie pie, buckle up. Good job. Or ring the bell on their bike. Okay kid, give it a try. Nice. Or remember their elbow pads.
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Movie Mike
Knees too.
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Sam Mullins
Okay. Yep, there you go. New Instagram Teen Accounts Automatic protections for who can contact your teen and the content they can see. Like your must watch list. Our network is all over the place because T Mobile helps keep you connected from the heart of Portland to right where you are on America's largest 5G network. Switch now keep your phone and T Mobile will pay it off up to $800 per line via prepaid card. Visit your local T Mobile location or learn more@t mobile.com KeepAndSwitch up to 4 lines via virtual prepaid card. Allow 15 days qualified unlock device, credit service report in 90 days device ineligible carrier and timely redemption required. Card is no cash access and expires in six months.
- [36:05]
Camila Ramon
Time is precious and so are our pets. So time with our pets is extra precious. That's why we started Dutch. Dutch provides 24,7 access to licensed vets with unlimited virtual visits and follow ups for up to five pets. You can message a vet at any time and schedule a video visit the same day. Our vets can even prescribe medication for many ailments and shipping is always free. With Dutch you'll get more time with your pets and year round peace of mind when it comes to their vet care.
- [36:35]
Sam Mullins
I'm Camila Ramon, Peloton's first Spanish speaking cycling and tread instructor. I'm an athlete, entrepreneur and almost most importantly a Perreo enthusiast. And I'm Liz Ortiz, former pro soccer player and Olympian. And like call me a Perreo enthusiast. Come on, who is it? Our podcast Hasta Bajo is where sports, music and fitness collide and we cover it all the arriba sit downs with real game changers in the sports world like Miami Dolphins CMO Priscilla Shumate who is redefining what it means to be a Latina leader. It all changed when I had this guy come to me. He said to me, you know you're not Latina enough. First of all, what is that? My mouth is wide open. Yeah, history makers like the Sucar family, who became the first Peruvians to win a Grammy. It was a very special moment for us. It's been 15 years for me in this career. Finally, things are starting to shift into a different level. Listen to Astavajo on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Brought to you by Novartis, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports Network. Ever wonder what it would be like to be mentored by today's top business leaders? My podcast, this Is Working can help with that. Here's advice from Google CMO Lorraine Tuhill on how to treat AI like a I see AI as an incredible copilot. You may use different tools or toys to get the work done, but ultimately, as editor, as creator, as maker, you own it and it needs to be good. AI is just the latest flavor of that. You're still the judge of what good looks like. I'm Dan Roth, LinkedIn's editor in chief. On my podcast, this Is Working. Leaders like Indra Nooyi, Ray Dalio, and Rich Paul share strategies for success and the real lessons that have shaped them. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Movie Mike
Before I get into this week's review, here is me talking with director Ryan Coogler, who not only directed Sinners, he also wrote and directed Black Panther 1 and 2, is currently working on three. He did Creed, and he's just a really cool guy. So here's me and Ryan Coogler. Hey Ryan, you're one of my favorite directors, and I think something that you're going to be remembered for is, is the representation. I think that was huge for me. Like In Black Panther 2, having the first major Mexican character in the MCU was like, amazing. Was that something that you set out to do early on or something that kind of developed over time, the power of representation?
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D
It's something that I set out to do early on, but it also wasn't something that I consciously thought about, man. Like, I grew up in Oakland, California, like in the 90s, when it was just an incredibly diverse city, man. I wasn't able to travel because I didn't have the money to, but I felt like I had the whole world right outside my door. You know, people from all parts of the world were there and they were proud of their cultures, you know what I'm saying? And they were sharing. We would share with each other. We were over each other's houses, eating each other's food and listening to each other's music. That was how I grew up. When I got enough means to travel and I discovered that Oakland really prepared me for what the world was, man, you know what I mean? I got dropped off in Hong Kong, I'll never forget. And I was like, yo, this is like being. This is like being downtown San Francisco, you know what I mean? I almost knew my way around, you know? And for me, if I have this ability, this blessing to be able to have a camera and write things that people are gonna have an opportunity to go see, I do feel a responsibility to do my best to present the world as it is, you know what I mean? And I always find that rewarding when I'm watching a movie and the world feels like that. So I feel like that's my responsibility to continue to give that to audiences. So it means the world for you to share that with me.
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Movie Mike
Foreign let's get into it now. A spoiler free movie review of Sinners, starring Michael B. Jordan, who plays two characters. They are called the Smokestack Twins. And they went to Chicago to work for Al Capone doing some gangster stuff, robbing people, putting bullets in people. And then they decide to move back home to the great state of Mississippi and they want to open a juke joint. They bring some booze with them from Chicago, they bring some other things you're maybe not supposed to have in the 1930s, and they buy some property with the idea of starting this juke joint to give their community a place where they can go spend money, gamble, party, dance, play music, play the blues. All these things where they can do under a roof where they can find salvation and not be persecuted by anybody, have their own little piece of home in Mississippi. But things aren't going to go as planned because things never go as planned, especially in the 1930s. This movie is a supernatural action thriller, and even though it does take place in that time period, it doesn't feel like a period piece whatsoever, which is always something I struggle with. And maybe it's because I'm dumb, but anytime a movie is set back in the 30s, it's always hard for me to get through that just dialogue barrier where it feels like people are talking and just saying words just like. And it's hard for me to feel the emotion in a story like that. So oftentimes I don't seek out these movies. But you have director Ryan Coogler, who Is one of my favorite directors right now. He has earned that level of respect for me. Like, who cares about my level of respect and what I think? But anything he does, any movie he puts out, I am gonna go watch it. And this is the fifth time he has worked with Michael B. Jordan. Frequent collaborators. That means these guys know each other. Ryan Coogler can probably push Michael B. Jordan in a way that other directors can't. And he probably needed a lot out of him because Michael B. Jordan is playing two characters, Smoke and Stack, the Smokestack Twins. And it was their way of working together that made this movie feel like it was fresh. And that even though it was set back in the 1930s, the dialogue, the interactions with all the other characters felt like it could have been taking place right now, given some of the wardrobe. But I think there's only one other director who has done that in recent history, and that is Quentin Tarantino. He does that a lot. Who goes back in time, rewrites history, and still makes it feel fresh. Adding in maybe some words that they probably didn't say back in the 30s, but it kind of breaks that barrier a little bit. And it's a really fine line to walk because sometimes when you do a quote unquote period piece and you have little inaccuracies here and there, people want to strangle you for it. But in this case, it totally makes sense because Sinners blends these two different genres, maybe even a little bit of three different genres into one movie. And it walks this line of, here's this element of a period piece, but then here's this drama, here's this supernatural thing. You have a bit of horror elements in there. And in 2025, where I started to think that nobody could create a movie that I'd never seen before. And you always hear people wanting to blend genres in a film. Ryan Coogler has done it in a way that exceeded my expectations. And it is so rare to wow me in this way that led me to loving it. The movie felt like three different films in one. And you just can't get that when going to the movies nowadays. Where I was so invested in the Smokestack Twins and learning about their backstory, seeing them be ruthless, seeing Michael B. Jordan portray two different characters. One who is a little bit more ruthless, a little bit more just, I'm gonna rough you up. I don't care who you are. I'm gonna prove how hardcore we are. The other who has a little bit more empathy. And that unravels as the Film goes along and two pretty well defined characters, which is hard to do. It is also hard to make a movie where you have one person playing two characters and not have it look weird. And I think it's because I spent a lot of time looking at the screen trying to pay attention to where Michael B. Jordan was there. And the other one was the superimposed image of him where they had a stand in and probably through special effects, put his face on his body. I could kind of point that out from time to time, but that's only because I was super hyper focused into it. I think for the most part, this is the best I've seen it done because oftentimes you have scenarios where they're placed on two different sides, but you have moments where they need to interact. They need to hand a cigarette to the other one and you can't really get around that. I will say I did notice different elements of the story that allowed the two characters to be put into different directions. And I think that just becomes a money thing because the more you spend on having them together in close proximity, having to interact with each other, the more expensive that gets. So that is just clever filmmaking. But in no way was that distracting. Thought they did a really good job with that. Hailee Steinfeld is fantastic in this and I think people really haven't seen how great of an actor she is. And this is one of those roles where I was like, oh, she's actually really good at. At not only doing the Marvel voice acting stuff that I think has really put her onto another level. Edge of 17 back in the Day was one of my favorite coming of age movies. But now I got a totally different look at what she can do. And I love this for her. She was a really great addition to this cast. It just has a lot of standout performances from everybody involved. So the acting was top tier, the cinematography was top tier. This movie was filmed on IMAX cameras. It is made for the big screen from the first opening scene, which I loved. I love a great opening scene, especially when it's shot for imax because you get this really big scope of Mississippi in the 1930s. The movie opens in a very chilling way where it starts at the end because the entire movie takes place in one day, which is another category of film I love. But what you see at the very beginning of the movie is actually the ending of the movie. So you see one of the characters, preacher boy, go up to the church. He is just covered in blood. Looks like he's just been through Hell, and he's holding a guitar neck that is broken off. And just the look of him walking into the church. They have these really low angles where you get the entire scope of the church. That scene looked fantastic. From the very beginning of this movie, I knew I was in for something special. And that is exactly what I got. This movie was essentially three different movies in one. And in 2025 where I thought there's no way a director could make a movie that would include things that I'd never seen before done in one film. Ryan Coogler shattered that idea. I thought everything had been done. I think you could still make a great movie, obviously, otherwise I would not be on this podcast right now talking about movies. But to go from just an almost straight ahead 1930s drama to a supernatural, almost horror esque movie by the end of it, and you have these supernatural events happening. You have these moments where it even shatters those genres. There's these really big expositions where Ryan Coogler makes statements on music, makes statements on racial tensions that allow the film to go into these almost fantasy lands. And the entire time I am writing with them, I don't feel it ever gets too weird because it always kind of stays grounded, even when it goes very supernatural, very, oh, this is kind of starting to feel like a fever dream. It still wrangles you in because it keeps that emotion. And I just haven't been moved by a film like this in a really long time. This year it is the first time that I started a movie, didn't know how it was going to get through all these elements and loved it by the end of it. I love the journey of all these characters. I think that blending of genres is something that I think the big directors can do. And what is going to keep film alive, that is what is going to make it feel like a spectacle, something that you want to pay money to go and see because it leaves nothing on the table. In an era right now where some movies are afraid to take a risk because it's going to alienate the audience, it's going to become too unmarketable. If you start blending different genres of movies, you include the undead and you include racial tensions and you include fire and you include shootouts, all things can exist and you can make a statement by the end of it, which is something Ryan Coogler has always done. By the end of a Ryan Coogler film, you are going to have a message that he got across to you. Because not only does he make movies that are entertaining, not only does he make movies that are a pleasure for the eyes? He also makes movies that are so impactful. Think back to how much of an impact Black Panther had on a young kid watching who had never seen a superhero with the color of their skin. That was impactful even for me at that time, where I still was probably an adult when that came out. And he did it again for me in Black Panther 2, where we had a Mexican guy playing a villain in a big MCU movie. So he's not only great about getting messages across in his movies, but also including a very diverse cast that has a lasting effect. And I think that is something that transcends just making a great movie, is making a movie with representation on a scale of a big budget movie that is going to reach a lot of people. And I think that's why this one works so well. Sinners was just effortlessly entertaining. And you don't have to be a big fan of horror movies to enjoy this. I would say if you are okay with the level of gore that you would find in a Walking Dead episode, there is a decent amount of blood, but nothing that's too overly graphic. Which I have kind of an interesting relationship with gore and blood because whenever it's in a horror movie, I don't care. It doesn't affect me whatsoever. But Kelsey loves watching medical dramas, and I think it's because those are more realistic, like people getting shot or people getting impaled by something and you have a doctor performing surgery where blood is gushing out. That is hard for me to watch. That is stressful for me. But she finds so much enjoyment in that. On the other hand, she can't watch a horror movie. If somebody gets, like, stabbed by Michael Myers or has their head ripped off in a horror movie, she can't do it. She gets freaked out and scared. But when it comes to Sinners, it's not really your traditional horror elements. And I think sometimes when anybody hears that it's a horror movie, you automatically check out because you're like, I don't do scary. I think if you give this one a chance, if you can handle a decent amount of blood with a good little splash of supernatural, I think you can handle the gore and scary elements and centers as far as where it lands. On my ranking of Ryan Coogler films, it is really hard to beat one, which is Black Panther for me. That movie, I feel, is going to have the biggest legacy. It has the biggest imprint on the MCU and was one that was not only great and entertaining, made a bunch of money, but also critically acclaimed. So one, I don't think it's ever going to come down from Black Panther. I kind of feel the same way about two, which is Creed. That movie reignited the Rocky franchise. It really made Michael B. Jordan a mega level star and is now spawned, well, an entire rebooted franchise of all the Creed movies that I'm all invested in. If they decide to make another one, I hope Ryan Coogler returns to direct another Creed movie. Number three. You also can't get away from the emotional impact of Black Panther 2, the passing of Chadwick Boseman and how that movie not only felt like saying goodbye to the Black Panther character, but also saying goodbye to him as an actor. That top three is going to be very difficult to crack and I love this movie so much, but I can't love it more than Black Panther 2, can't love it more than the first Creed, and I can't love it more than Black Panther. But I do love it right there at number four. So for sinners, I give it 4.5 out of five smokestacks.
- [52:47]
Sam Mullins
Introducing Instagram Teen Accounts A new way to keep your teen safer as they grow. Like making sure they always have their seatbelt on. All right, sweetie pie, buckle up. Good job. Or ring the bell on their bike. Okay, kid, give it a try. Nice. Or remember their elbow pads.
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Movie Mike
Knees too.
- [53:05]
Sam Mullins
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- [53:46]
Camila Ramon
Time is precious and so are our pets. So time with our pets is extra precious. That's why we started Dutch. Dutch provides 247 access to licensed vets with unlimited virtual visits and follow ups for up to five pets. You can message a vet at any time and schedule a video visit the same day. Our vets can even prescribe medication for many ailments and shipping is always free. With Dutch, you'll get more time with your pets and year round peace of mind when it comes to their vet care.
- [54:16]
Sam Mullins
I'm Camila Ramon, Peloton's first Spanish speaking cycling and tread instructor. I'm an athlete, entrepreneur and almost most importantly a perreo enthusiast. And I'm Liz Ortiz, former pro soccer player and Olympian. And like call me a Parrero enthusiast. Come on, who is it? Our podcast Hasta Bajo is where sports, music and fitness collide and we cover it all the Arriva Hasta sit downs with real game changers in the sports world like Miami Dolphins CMO Priscilla Shumate, who is redefining what it means to be a Latina leader. It all changed when I had this guy come to me, he said to me, you know, you're not Latina enough. First of all, what is that? My mouth is wide open. Yeah. History makers like the Sucard family who became the first Peruvians to win a Grammy. It was very special moment for us. It's been 15 years for me in this career. Finally, things are starting to shift into a different level. Listen to Astavajo on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Brought to you by Novartis, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports Network. This is Courtside with Laura Carrenti, the podcast that's changing the game and breaking down the business of women's sports like never before. I'm Laura, the founder and CEO of Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment, your inside source on the biggest deals, power moves and game changers. Writing the playbook on all things women's sports, from the heavy hitters in the front office to the powerhouse women on the pitch. We're talking to commissioners, team owners, influential athletes and the investors betting big on women's sports. We'll break down the numbers, get under the hood and go deep on what's next. Women's sports are the moment, so if you're not paying attention, you're already behind. Join me Courtside for a front row seat into the making of the business of women's sports. Courtside with Laura Carrenti is an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. Listen to Courtside with Laura Carenti Starting April 3rd on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Brought to you by Novartis, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports Network. It's time to head down to Movie Mike's Trailer Park.
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Movie Mike
Seven years after the original, we are getting a sequel to A Simple Favor came out in 2018. Now in 2025, we're getting another Simple Favor. Anna Kendrick is back. Director Paul Feig is back. Most importantly, at least right now, Blake Lively is back. Blake Lively is a very interesting actor to me. I wasn't a fan of Gossip Girl. I know how big that show was. I know that's why she was so famous. I don't feel like, however, her fame from that TV show has translated into into movies. And up until last year with It Ends With Us and now all the drama and legal issues surrounding that movie, I don't feel like she had a signature role. If it wouldn't have been It Ends With Us, I would have said A simple favor from 2018 was her signature role. She's been in a lot of big movies, but as far as like her as the star of a movie that people identify her with, I don't think she had it there. She was obviously in Green Lantern, which is where she met Ryan Reynolds. She was also in the town. The Shallows was probably the highest grossing movie that she starred in, which probably made a little bit more than A Simple Favor, but I still don't think people think Blake Lively and they think the Shallows. So up until last year with It Ends With Us, which is now her highest grossing movie At $242 million, it was a Simple Favor. So that's probably why they are making a sequel to this movie now, which was originally announced back in 2022. And the way that movie ended, I just didn't think there would be a sequel. And I enjoyed A Simple Favor. It reminds me of 2020, even though it came out a couple years before. But there was a period of time during the early days of the Pandemic where Kelsey and I watched a movie every single day. We ran out of movies to watch that the other hadn't watched. And A Simple Favor was one that I never watched. But I love Anna Kendrick and I enjoyed Blake Lively in it. I thought overall it was a pretty good thriller. This one from the trailer feels very different though. And what it's about is a murder goes down at the wedding of Blake Lively's character. She essentially blackmails Anna Kendrick to come to her wedding after Blake Lively's character spent five years in prison from the events of A Simple Favor, which is another interesting thing because I do have a 10 year spoiler warning. That's kind of my grace period. If a movie is over 10 years old, I feel it is okay to spoil, but I almost feel like there should be a Bit of a clause in there because whenever a sequel comes out, this trailer spoils that one. And you can't really talk about what is going on in this one without kind of revealing what happened in the first one. So they spoil it themselves. Because you couldn't even have this movie, have this trailer without leading you to what happened in the first movie. But a lot happens in this trailer. We'll break it all down. But before I do, here's just a little bit of another simple favor, which is coming out on prime on May 1st.
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Sam Mullins
Emily, how are you here? I'm getting married. Maybe my maid of.
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Movie Mike
Did I mention it was in Capri? Capri? Why am I here? You think I want to make you.
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Sam Mullins
Pay for stealing my life?
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Movie Mike
What did she say to convince you to come to this farce?
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Sam Mullins
Fratricide, identity fraud, girlfriend stuff. I have a surprise. Your own true family. You probably don't remember me.
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Movie Mike
It's your Auntie Linda.
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Sam Mullins
You brought your sister into a wedding.
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Movie Mike
She's an insurance policy.
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Sam Mullins
Because I won't kill you both.
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Movie Mike
This movie was filmed on location in Italy. Blake Lively's character is out of jail. She met the love of her life, who is this extraordinary Italian businessman. And she goes to Anna Kendrick and says, hey, friend, remember me? You want to be a bridesmaid in my wedding? And Anna Kendrick does not want to go. But it looks like Blake Lively has some kind of blackmail on her and gets her to go with her assistant. And while they're there, our murder goes down. And I had to watch this trailer three times because it felt so jam packed with a bunch of random moments and scenes. And it took me a while to even realize that a murder happened during all this. There's a moment in the trailer where you realize, oh, somebody's going to die. And Anna Kendrick is standing there with a hotel worker, maybe opening the door to her hotel room. Hotel worker screams. And Anna Kendrick is just kind of staring. So I feel like this genre is kind of back. The whodunit, the murder mystery, the dark comedy. I feel like this one has a little bit less of a serious tone than the first one. It's almost like they're really leaning into Blake Lively's character, the wardrobe, her dressing at times, and very interesting, like suit jackets and hats. I always find the wardrobe that Blake Lively wears in movies to be kind of interesting. I don't know if it's fashion that I just don't understand, but it's bold, so I think she fits this role really well. I think this is a movie that she is really excited to make Anna Kendrick I love in anything, whether she is in front of the camera, behind the camera directing. And you get kind of classic Anna Kendrick vibes in this trailer. Her mix of comedy, really good acting, and just somebody that you root for. It does feel a little bit like a random sequel to me because like I said, the first one didn't really feel like it ended on a note of all we're getting another one. But I have to imagine that there was just that demand there to make it. And with it coming out on Prime, I feel like they're trying to build some franchises over there. So that's probably a little bit of an influence. But director Paul Feig is back directing this movie. Who? You might not know his name, but he has directed some really big movies like Bridesmaids, the Heat, spy, Ghostbusters from 2016, the original symbol Favor, which I mentioned. He also directed last Christmas in 2019. He also created Freaks and Geeks. He didn't direct it. I think you think Judd Apatow and you think the person associated with Freaks and Geeks, which was a show back in the 90s that launched the careers of so many people like Seth Rogen, James Franco and Jason Siegel, just to name a few. And Paul Feig was also the skinny camp counselor in Heavyweights, the guy who would get made fun of by all the other kids because he was the one who actually lost the weight. I love Paul Feig, and looking at his list of movies and how this one kind of fits in, I feel like the project is in good hands. If you have the original filmmaker at the helm, it doesn't feel cash grabby to me. Where this movie gets interesting is all the negative press that it's getting. Because what is going on in Blake Lively's personal life and all the battles she is having to face online just promoting anything right now. And from the things I've read and before kind of doing some research on this, I thought her and Anna Kendrick did not get along. But it seems to me that whenever they were at south by Southwest, Anna Kendrick actually defended her. And where I feel Anna Kendrick's frustration is coming from, she said that she has no feud with Blake Lively, but I think she's frustrated by all this negative press that it is getting because everybody doesn't want to talk about the movie. They want to ask about, hey, what's your relationship like with Blake Lively? And all the headlines that are getting written about this movie is all going back to the legal case between her and Justin Baldoni, which is ongoing, which according to a New York Times article, she did sue her co star for sexual harassment and retaliation. Justin Baldoni denied these claims. He also followed a 400 million dollar defamation counterclaim against Blake. But all defendants have denied the allegations. So with this ongoing, it brings me to the question, is all press good press? Is even bad press good press? I don't think it's that way anymore. I think that bad press can really bring you down. It can affect ticket sales in a world where you can get canceled so quickly for saying something, even though maybe all the facts aren't there. Once somebody has a perception of you now they're going to feel that way. So I think in today's culture, not all press is good press because I feel that is where all the attention is going. And it's also hard to build hype around this movie when everybody just wants to put Blake Lively's name in headlines to get clicks. Not about this movie, but about everything else going on with her and Ryan Reynolds all getting dragged into it. Taylor Swift getting dragged into it. There's just so much happening. I have to imagine that the press tour for this movie has been excruciating, even though so far it has had pretty good reviews from critics, had a pretty good reception at south by Southwest. So I think the movie is going to do well on Amazon because you have two big A list stars attached to it. So in the end, I think that will translate to streams to people watching the movie. But, oh, it's hard to say that that press is wanted. So in some aspects it is good because it does bring that attention. It will get those numbers there. But I don't think that is how you want to promote every project right now. It's even affected me the way I talked about this trailer. I had to bring that up because it felt like I'd be leaving a piece of the puzzle out. But that being said, the trailer does look pretty good. I feel like it's going to have more of a comedic vibe than the first one. I don't feel like it's going to be as intense. I can kind of see the direction it's going in, but I have to imagine there's some kind of twist ending that's going to happen and maybe they're trying to build out an entire franchise here. I am a little bit surprised though that it's not coming out in theaters and going straight to prime instead. So I'll definitely be giving it a stream on May 1st on Prime Video.
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Sam Mullins
And that was this week's edition of Movie Mike Trailer Park.
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Movie Mike
And that is gonna do it for another episode here of the podcast. But before I go, I gotta give my listeners shout out of the week. We had an interview last week. Thank you everybody for all the nice messages and comments. That ended up being a pretty powerful interview. That during it I just felt this shift in energy talking about the Oklahoma City bombing on its 30th anniversary. So if you missed that episode, just go back one in the feedback. And this week's listener shout out is to the person who DM me on Instagram with the American flag emoji, which was the secret emoji from that interview. So shout out to Jackie Hardwick who said, I'm from Oklahoma. That was such a sad day. I can't believe it's been 30 years. Which I think overall was the sentiment of all the messages and comments I got from all you Oklahoma listeners of remembering that day so vividly and it's still not being any easier to process. And that just living with you for so many years that those of you have went and watched the documentary and sent me a message about it of how it's just like reliving that day. So even hearing that from people who just lived in Oklahoma and then talking to Walter who was there, it just gave me a whole new perspective on life of people who go through really traumatic things and how important it is to navigate and talk to those people, check in on those people, because that is a lot of weight to carry. So thank you for listening. Appreciate Jackie for sending that message. Thank you for all the nice comments and messages. Highly recommend that documentary if you haven't checked it out yet, it is Oklahoma City bombing American terror on Netflix now. So check that out. Thanks to Ryan Coogler. Thanks to you for listening. But how about we throw in another secret emoji for next week's listener shout out Hit me with the vampire emoji on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook or X. I'll pick the first person who sends me that and shout you out on next week's episode. And until then, go out and watch good movies and I will talk to you later.
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Sam Mullins
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Movie Mike
Roger Caron was 16 when first convicted.
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Sam Mullins
Has spent 24 of those years in jail. But when Roger Caron picked up a pen and paper, he went from an ex con to a literary darling from Campside Media and iHeart Podcasts. Listen to GoBoy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. You feelin this too is a horror anthology podcast. It brings different creators to tell 10.
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Movie Mike
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Sam Mullins
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