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Podcast Host
We're back with another Sunday sampler. The music panel returns on the Bobby cast. And Eddie and I were talking to Chris. Chris is way younger than us and he did not know Milli Vanilli. We talk about that. Also, some real controversies in music. We'll start with in the vet's office with Dr. Josie. She sits down with a highly acclaimed dog trainer, Nikki Varva, to talk about training the most common behavioral issues in pets. What she has to train the most, the kind of dog she has to train the most. Good. All of this is awesome. You can check out this show and many more. Just go search them up after you listen to this podcast. So let's get started. Here's a clip of in the vet's office with Dr. Josie. You're listening to in the Vet's Office.
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Dr. Josie Horczak
With Dr. Josie Horczak.
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Nikki Varva
Taylor is so handsome. I was just telling Nikki we've had dogs take poops in the studio. My dog bit Bobby last season and Sailor's sitting here like a perfect angel.
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Dog Trainer
So we had a long talk on the way. You know, I was like, hey, behave. You're a trainer's dog. You know, don't embarrass me.
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Nikki Varva
The bar is very high.
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Netflix Representative
It's very high.
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Nikki Varva
Well, we'll jump right into our case of the week. Uh, we always talk about something that I've seen in practice. A lot of times owners don't really know what's going on behind the scenes in the trenches, as we say. And so the case for this week is a sad one, but I think it's important to talk about because we do see it from time to time. It was one of my owners called me and said, hey, you know, I left a bag of veggie straws out on the counter and he had three dogs. And one of them got up on the counter, got the bag of food, brought them down. He came home from whatever errand he was running and it was, I think, pretty gruesome. There was blood everywhere. Two of the dogs had ganged up on the smaller dog and beat him up pretty Bad, which it's. It's a sad story. It's not a great case of the week, but I think it's an important one to talk about because so often we think about dogs fighting each other at the dog park or getting into altercations when they're on the leash. But I, in practice will see dogs that live together and that are siblings fight and, and hurt each other all the time. So I'm a big proponent of when you're leaving the house, putting them in a crate. What do you think about that?
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Dog Trainer
100%. You know, that honestly right there could have saved that fight. You never know. I told you this. Nobody can ever guarantee you what your dogs are going to do when they're by themselves. Whether it's a single dog or multiple dogs. The safest thing that you can do is just put them in a crate.
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Nikki Varva
Right?
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Dog Trainer
Put them in a crate. And, you know, I mean that people say that's a band aid, but honestly, that could have saved a big fight or losing a dog, you know, and to that extent, yeah.
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Nikki Varva
And sadly, we do see the, the big dog, little dog altercations where we do lose these dogs. I mean, they can. It can be a life or death situation. And I find that owners feel guilty about the crate, but it is so important. And I have found that dogs really like their crate.
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Podcast Host
They do.
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Dog Trainer
They love it. We put a lot of human emotion on it. You know, they. They call them a cage or. I want my dog to just be a dog. Well, at the end of the day, they are a dog. And they. We can't expect them to live in a human life and be able to do the things that we expect them to do when at the end of the day, they're a dog. And so the crate, honestly, is a great way to put, you know, your dog in a safe spot to where they do feel comfortable. It is like their own room. It's how we escape, too. We like to go to our own rooms and kind of relax. That's a great place for your dog to go as well.
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Nikki Varva
We, Cody and I, will refer to our dog's crate as their condo. Yes, they have their own little condo. And they can just relax. They can take a breath, like, they don't have to be on. They don't have to be on alert. So I think it's important for them to be able to take a break, just like you and I.
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Dog Trainer
Absolutely, absolutely. You know, if you think about it, when dogs are. They're active 24, seven, you know, so they honestly really enjoy being able to go into their crate and take a nap and turn off, you know, so it's great. And again, it's something that can really, I tell people all the time, to prevent things from happening. Your crate is your number one thing that can prevent things from happening.
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Nikki Varva
Yeah, absolutely. All right, next up, we will dive into some of our listener calls.
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T-Mobile Representative
Hello, Dr. Josie, your nephew Hank is five months old. He's a Portuguese water dog, and he started humping. My question is, is this for sexual reasons or is there any other reasons why this would be happening and how can we minimize that?
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Nikki Varva
Okay. That was my brother in law, Tanner, who just got a puppy. And I get this question all the time. I'm sure you do too, as a trainer.
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Dog Trainer
Oh, absolutely.
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Nikki Varva
Where dogs, puppies, a lot of times, as they're maturing a little bit, and even adult dogs will hump. And whether they're neutered or in spayed.
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Dog Trainer
Or not, or even a female dog.
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Nikki Varva
Even a female dog, we will see humping. And it does not necessarily, I would say the majority of the time does not equate to them being sexually aroused. More than not. I find that it is, and I would love to hear your opinion too. I find that it's. They are excited and overstimulated and they're kind of displacing that anxiety and excitement and it turns into humping. But it's not, hey, I want to have sex.
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Dog Trainer
Exactly. It is. It happens a lot when dogs are very overstimulated. So it's an outlet, so it's something that they can do. Now some dogs will go into displacement. They get excited and maybe go run and pick up a ball because they're just trying to put their energy into something. And some dogs, of course, just start humping. Um, you know, yes, at times it can be a dominant kind of thing, you know, where two dogs are sizing each other up, you know, kind of deal. But normally it's. It's always just overstimulation.
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Podcast Host
Yeah.
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Nikki Varva
So brother Tanner, no worries. Hank is. Is good to go. He's probably just really happy to be alive.
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Dog Trainer
Exactly. He's not attracted to you. We're good.
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Podcast Host
Yeah.
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Nikki Varva
All right, next up.
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Podcast Host
Hi, my name is Anne and I volunteer at a pet shelter in Delaware, and I had a question about dogs. We noticed one day all the dogs were going wild when one man approached. Now, he's worked with these dogs before, but they were very, very agitated by him this time. And he happened to be wearing a bright orange, almost a hunter orange shirt. Could this have been something that would have triggered the dogs. Is that common for them to be triggered by certain colors?
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Nikki Varva
I have two thoughts when I hear this, the first of which is dogs are pack animals. I think if maybe the other dogs had interacted with this person before, but I think if one starts barking, they can all sort of trigger each other and then spiral a bit. The other thought, and not to get too scientific, is that dogs only have two cones in their retinas. Humans have three. And so dogs can't really make out red or green colors. They can really only make out blues and yellows. And so I feel like orange kind of falls into that red category. And it can look like a very dark color to them. So it is very possible that a big man wearing that color of shirt could be causing them to be a little bit more fearful than usual.
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Dog Trainer
Yeah, absolutely. And also, you gotta think in a rescue is my thing would be, do you have a new dog? Has the new dog? Is this the one that started the barking?
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Podcast Host
Right.
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Dog Trainer
Because then it causes everybody to bark. So a lot of times when somebody says a dog or dogs have done something out of the norm, it's normally not out of the norm. You gotta think about what triggered it prior. You know, did the guy come through a different door, did you know, there's all kinds of different things you go into it. But definitely, you know, dogs, again, I've seen dogs act differently when they've actually been able to see a color, you know, whether it be, I mean, I have a chair in the yard that's blue. And now the dogs are like, oh, my God, what is that? Yeah, like, because they've never been able to see it before, you know what I mean? So it does, you know, dogs definitely can, you know, change to routine or something that's different in their life and act different to it. But definitely in a kennel situation, if one barks, they're all going to explode.
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Nikki Varva
Absolutely. And I, I think one thing that you just said that I think really rings true for me is routine. Dogs are such routine, natured creatures. And just like you said, if anything is different from the usual, it can really throw them off.
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Dog Trainer
Absolutely.
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Podcast Host
You know, going off the topic of what is or what isn't country, one thing I've noticed about, and I've been going through TikTok a lot lately, just because it's 11pm, I can't sleep, I can't help myself, I grab it and I pull it out. A lot of 90s country stuff comes up through the TikTok feed stuff that isn't technically 90s country, but asking around with writers and family and friends, basically anything from like 1986 to 2007 is 90s country. That's funny that it would go up that high. Yeah, yeah. The late 80s stuff, for sure. Like a lot of the Randy Travis stuff gets put into that. And some of the George Strait from the late 80s. Most of the Shenandoah hits, you know, are from the 80s. Wow. Didn't realize that. Yeah. Two dozen roses. That's a great point, because I definitely would have considered that 90s, where I guess it's the music that was wildly popular in that era. Since most of it was the 90s, it's just all considered nine. And you think like some of Tim McGraw's or like some of his early 2000s feels like 90s, but it does already 2000. Faith Hill, like a lot of 2000 songs. People think that Jessica. Jessica Andrews and who I am is a 90s country song. That's 2001. That's, you know, I mean, it's close. It's not 90s, though. There's some people that think 2004 songs are country or a 90s country. You know, like Live like youe Were Dying. Somebody once referenced on TikTok as a 90s country song. I'm like, you're five years off. That's like, not even close. So I guess it's just people that hear old, good, semi contemporary country music. If it's good and semi contemporary, it must be 90s. It must be 90s country. It's funny that that is all classified that. But I do feel like a lot of the 80s, even some of the late 80s, like Garth. The early Garth stuff.
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T-Mobile Representative
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Podcast Host
89. 89. Yeah, like that. The dance. 89, 90s. Because it was just really popular in that era when it popped, which just so happened to be the 90s. Yes. Most people, too, don't think of 2000s country in the same way as 90s country. Well, I agree, except I'm married to someone that is 12 years younger than me. And I. I felt the same way. I was like. I always said, like, 2000s sucked. 2010, like. Like 2014. I was like, man, just not a good era. And she's like, are you kidding? Easton Corbin? Are you kidding? And she starts listing off Joe and. And Joe Nichols. She's like, if I did a new Highwayman, I'm not kidding. This is what she said. She had to be Easton, Joe Nichols, Craig Morgan. And I forget the other one was Heck, yeah. But she. That. That's. That's Redneck Yacht Club. Her jam that. That era is like her. What is the guy that played your rehearsal then? It was Josh Grayson. Josh Grayson. Josh Grayson. That would be her. Because she was a 2010 and that could have been 2008 to 2000. I mean, that's the era I grew up on. She. It's her at that. Some of the Tim McGraw stuff that I don't even know is her favorite Tim McGraw stuff because it happened after the early. And before he kind of had this, like, reinvention. Yeah. Like. Yeah. Because he never retired, but, like, hit hard again, like. But I. I agree. I always thought that I was like, that's the worst generation. But because she was right in it and she's from Oklahoma, she was like, no, no, no. This is my favorite. So I agree. The only person I've ever heard that from is my wife. Though it gets overshadowed because 90s country is this very prestigious thing to a lot of people, even people that didn't grow up in the 90s. And then obviously anything post Florida Georgia Line breaking out is its own entity as well. So you have that 2000-2010 kind of era that's kind of lost in the shuffle there. But still, there's a lot of songs that are played on the radio that were from that time period. I used to think, too, it was just the age of the people that got to make the decisions. That's funny. Meaning the people that, you know, us executives, people that are playing, like, putting songs in movies. The 90s, because that was their thing. Yeah, right. I don't think that as much anymore. The 90s, it was so commercially massive. Like, see, I always wondered that, like, because we lived it or technology maybe took such advanced steps that that might have been a problem. Well, no, but it popped so hard. Like, the. The concerts, I mean, it was huge. They. Yes,'90s country was huge. But I. But I crossed over in the mainstream so much that people that didn't know country music started. It was like the 70s whenever. Like, disco or. And then even like the disco cowboy type stuff where people in New York City would start wearing cowboy hats. Yeah. Like, it got that big. Where did that again? In the 90s, they did a halftime show at the Super Bowl. Like, there was a 90s country.
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Caroline Hobby
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Podcast Host
There's a bunch of artists which would be pretty. I mean, you would never think that would happen nowadays, that they would pick. Maybe. Maybe right now I would for the first time. But never up until Right now with Morgan and more. I think that we have three football stadium acts right now that aren't that are under 40. Morgan, Luke, Zach Bryant. Who he says he's not a country artist, but that just makes him more of a country artist. They stream so much more than anybody else. Yeah. So. But I agree, there's no country artist. Okay. Shania did it, but she also was a pop artist. Yes. So, yeah, that's. I. But I stand by 2010's bad era. I'm with you. Yeah. Bad era. I don't know any of that stuff, Eddie. I do. And it's actually pretty good. My wife plays it. She's like, what about this one? And I'm like. I'm like, yeah, it's a good flirt. Yeah. Little food for your soul. Little food for so life ain't always pretty, but hey, it's pretty beautiful. Laugh a little more things tight. Tighten up your core. Said EK. You're kicking it with four things with Amy Brown.
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And since Thanksgiving is next week, we'll start with the conflicting feelings of gratitude and sadness, disappointment, maybe even anger. I just want to remind you that it is okay to feel grateful and heartbroken at the same time. Grief is messy and holidays magnify the messiness of it, for sure. Like everything just amplified. So I want to normalize all emotions. They are all allowed. And my hope is, though, that you're able to experience moments of happiness and joy alongside your sadness. I suppose it really does depend on how fresh things are for you. I get that. But Wherever you are in this stage of your life, these are some tips or some things you can do to survive the holidays with your heart break or your heart that is aching right now. Incorporating traditions is something that can feel really special. Like if you've got your mom's pie recipe and she always made it and she's no longer with you, well, your new tradition is going to be make that pie. Or if she had a favorite pie, she didn't make it, but it was somebody else's recipe, but she loved having it at Thanksgiving or Christmas. Or your new tradition. Even though maybe nobody else really likes that pie, but your mom always did make the pie. It's a simple way to feel their presence and have them a part of the day even though they're not there. Or if it's not a loved one that you lost but the end of a relationship, you can create new traditions instead of trying to recreate past holidays. You know, just embrace the opportunity to start fresh. Like for me, starting some new traditions have helped shift the focus from what is different about my life that I didn't think was going to be different and what's missing from my life, it shifts it to what's possible. Like maybe you host friends coming over, like if you're in a divorce situation, maybe you don't have your kids, then your, your ex, whoever you're co parenting has them. Well, what can you do to bring other people together? At plan a casual day with close family and friends. Or if you're solo, indulge in something that you love, like ordering your favorite takeout, scheduling some movie marathon. Like your favorite actress is Julia Roberts. Watch every movie she's ever been in in order that they came out. Like, give yourself a little challenge like that. What else could you do? You could take a long walk. We talked about being outside and the first thing and how good that is for you. But maybe go take a drive to a really pretty place where you can actually take a hike instead of just walking around your neighborhood or your neighborhood park. Like, is there a really cool place you could go to to hike and remember that it's okay to say no to situations that feel overwhelming. I think even if you've committed because your family and friends, if they know if you've experienced heartache and you're grieving the loss of something, they're going to understand if you've changed your mind and you're not going to go. So if you're not up for that big family gathering, do something smaller or do something by yourself. That's up to you. I will say there's a difference, though, in locking yourself in your room and isolating yourself from everybody because you don't want to face it all and then creating solitude for yourself because that's what you need at the time. So just try to assess where you are with that. Allow yourself to grieve what's different and then also look for small moments of things to be thankful for. It's that gratitude piece. Like maybe it's the piece of having a little extra time for yourself or a new chance to redefine what the holidays look like for you in your own way. I'm going to be alone for Thanksgiving without my kids, and it's still new to me. It's still weird. We haven't been divorced that long. I think maybe once I've got like maybe five years under my belt, it'll finally feel real. But Thanksgiving be in my house. I've got some friends and I have things to do, but I'm just not going to have my kids, which is going to feel weird. So a way to look at that though is, oh, look at this time I'm going to get for myself to maybe focus on some things that I've been putting off or I get to rest a little bit. If it's a loved one that's passed on. Something else you could do before the meal is go around the table and have everyone share a favorite memory. That is a special way to turn grief into gratitude. And then it keeps that person alive in a way, a part of the family, like they're still there. You could also light a candle for them or play their favorite song while you're all cooking and prepping the food. And these are just little things that can be really good for you and your family, depending on who all is involved in the grieving process. And the main thing that I want you to let soak in is that it is okay to laugh, to feel happy, and to enjoy the holidays. Your loved one would not want you to feel guilty for continuing to live your life. So next week, whether you're surrounded by people for Thanksgiving or you're spending the day more low key, know that it is okay to miss the people or the life you thought you'd have. It's okay to cry and to celebrate all at once.
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Iheart hey, let's talk about Thanksgiving for a second. If you want to bring fun at Thanksgiving, get the new game let's Hit each Other with Fake Swords. That's the name of the game. Let's Hit each Other with Fake Swords. This is the game you want this year because it is so much fun. We love the game we play in the studio. Now imagine dueling your best friend with fake swords. It is silly. There'll be a lot of laughing. It's a card game too. The holidays are the perfect time to get a new game that everybody will love. The game is called let's Hit each Other with Fake Swords. It's at Target. Get it now at Target before it sells out. Gotta get sleep. Gotta get sleep. Gotta drink water. Gotta get sleep. Sometimes we put that stuff off thinking we can catch up at a different time. But if you're not sleeping well, you're not feeling well, you're not performing well. That could be performing at work or as a parent or it really doesn't matter. Like, you've gotta get sleep. And the key, at least one of them is your bed. If you have a bad bed over. That's why I love my sleep number smart bed. It is awesome. So a couple of things. One, my sleep number setting is 30. That's my firmness. But you and your partner, you can have a different firmness. It's all good like that. And so my average sleep IQ score over the past week or so has been like 83, which for me has been pretty good. But I can always look at the data and see when I woke up, why I woke up. It's awesome. I love the bed. I can't recommend it enough. You know, it helps you stay asleep. And now during sleep numbers. Black Friday sale, say 50% on the sleep number. Limited edition smart bed plus special financing for a limited time. Find sleep number smart beds at every price point. Only at a sleep number store or sleepnumber.com.
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We'Re going to do it live. We are the 1, 2, 3 sore losers. What up, everybody? I am Lunchbox. I know the most about sports. Give you the sports facts, my sports opinions. Because I'm pretty much a sports genius, y'all. It's sin. I'm from the north. I'm an alpha male. I live on the north side of Nashville with baser, my wife. We do have a farm.
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Podcast Host
It's beautiful.
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T-Mobile Representative
A lot of acreage, no animals. A lot of crops. Hopefully soon. Corn, pumpkins, rye, I believe. Maybe a little fescue.
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Podcast Host
To be determined.
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T-Mobile Representative
Over to you, coach. And here's a clip from this week's episode of the Sore Losers. The fight heard round the world. Dude, what an absolute damn joke. I watched that girl fight. That girl kicked the other girl's ass and somehow she lost. I believe the other one was the incumbent. She was a bigger girl. She was from Ireland. Don't fact check us on any of this stuff, but I think that she just. It. It was that blow to the eye even. Those are braids that slashed her. That's illegal. You're not allowed to leave with your head. I mean, that is a ref. That's how the judges scored it. And I'll hang up and listen. Cut over her eye was so nasty, so gross. Poor thing, though. She had to. She had to battle through it. And God bless the surgeon they had on the side. He was put in jail he was putting. What's that stuff you put on your kids, man? Super glue? Yeah, no, it's called something else, but it's like Tiger bomb. Yeah, Cup. Cup bomb or something, man. They were putting that all over it. And it. Some points. It almost looked like you were seeing portions of her eye you've never really seen before. Okay, now let's get to the main fight. First of all, add to the first that fight, they take 35 minutes of nothing to get ready for the main fight. Absolutely wasting my damn time having Jerry Jones and Cedric the Entertainer interviewed by some lady that I don't know who she is. Ah, this is big for the Cowboys. This is a big game. Cheerleaders look great. Oh, yeah, we're here. Cowboys. Damn. We're just decided to host this thing and then Michael Irvin's on there. Like, what are we doing? I missed all that. I was frozen. Oh, you're frozen? Yeah, I was in a. I was battling. It was me versus Netflix was actually the prelims. And then right before they're about to walk out, my Netflix goes frozen again. And then it says, you might want to check your Internet. Seems like you're having Internet problems. I'm like, no, Netflix. I promise you, I'm not having Internet problems. It's a Netflix problem. They're like, here are three steps to check your Internet. And it's like, one, go to the router. Two, is the router color. And I'm like, no, no, no, I don't need to go to the router. It's your stream that ain't working. The question is this. Were you battling this fight? Was it you versus Netflix or did your. Was your wife in on it, too? The kids are helping you? Because Bazer wouldn't help me. I was on my own. I was on a damn island fighting this thing. And then I. She said some. Actually, she did help me with that. She told me on Twitter it says if you go two minutes delayed, it'll be good. It was actually golden.
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Podcast Host
I never had.
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T-Mobile Representative
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Podcast Host
I don't.
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T-Mobile Representative
I don't give a. About his car who wins this fight. And I immediately think, this is the dumbest thing I am. I have ever watched. I was like, this is wwe. The dude is coming out in a car, and it is going so slow. My wife went. I don't know what she went to do. If she went to go change laundry, do laundry, brush her teeth, get something to drink. I have no idea what she did. She comes back five minutes later, and she goes, he's still in that damn car. She goes, he's really gonna ride that all the way to the ring? I was like, it appears so. Did you not see the other.
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Dr. Josie Horczak
No.
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T-Mobile Representative
He was spraying his own cologne on him. His brother Logan. Yeah, he had his spray guy. The Logan was spraying the cologne on him. And I'm like, this is so stupid. Oh, we were in AD, bro. We were in a 100 commercial. We are in an advertisement. People say, we're in a simulation. We're not in a lifelong advertisement. Why weren't they just drinking prime the whole time?
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Podcast Host
Kidding me.
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T-Mobile Representative
That stuff sells itself. Oh, he's got to work on the axe spray. Okay, well, anyway, and then they have 52 bodyguards walking down the thing with him around the car, and the car gets to, like, where it turns, and it's like, oh, the car doesn't know how to turn, so you have to get out of the damn car and walk the rest away. And I'm like, this is so stupid. This is so dumb. Get to Tyson, because this is where it got sad, bro, when he started waddling into the ring. Hold on. Then they're like. And now the introduction for. What is his name? Logan Ball. Jake Paul. Jake Paul. Where the damn is. I can't remember his damn name. Logan. Jake Ball. He's an entrepreneur. He's a YouTube, and he's a boxer. He's an influencer. He's a this, he's a that. Ladies and gentlemen, Jake Paul. And I'm like, did we have to say he's a YouTuber. Like, who gives a shit? Like that? That doesn't need to be in the announcement. Like, what are we doing? Like, what is going on? Anyway, so then they. I didn't know you're gonna have hot takes on the intro. I would have paid more attention. Dude, I was puckered. I had every parlay. What was there to be puckered about? About once they said Mike Tyson's name and he comes out and here's the. I needed that to go eight rounds. There is nobody with Mike Tyson.
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Podcast Host
Bro.
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T-Mobile Representative
He said, damn it, I'm going alone, man. I don't.
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Podcast Host
He didn't.
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T-Mobile Representative
Dude, that was kind of sad. He didn't have one person in his entourage. Not a single person. That's gonna be us. Was with Mike. That's gonna be us, dude, we're gonna be so alone when these cameras and made. Oh, my gosh, dude, we're going to be so alone. Even more lonelier than if these things had never been there in the first place. And he. They show him, and the first thing I see is a damn knee brace. And I'm like, oh, my God.
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Podcast Host
Take this personally.
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T-Mobile Representative
With Morgan K.
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Morgan Huelsman
This is a really special episode for me and one that has been an idea of mine for so many years now. I am joined by Mrs. Manning, who was one of my high school teachers and, as I like to say, my angel in high school. That really helped save my life in a lot of ways. How are you, Mrs. Manning?
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Bose Representative
I'm doing fabulous. I am so happy to get to sit here and chat with you today, and you are too kind. I just happened to be somebody who was able to be in the right place at the right time. So I'm glad that you think of me that way, but you might be a little too generous.
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Morgan Huelsman
Mrs. Manning was a safe space for me when I was going through a really horrible bullying situation in high school. These were girls who I had once upon a time thought were my friends, and that quickly changed, and I didn't like being at school. It was a really dark time for me. So we're going to pull on some past memories here, though, Mrs. Manny. We're going to see if you recall things in kind of a similar way for me, but from your experience as a teacher. We're going to kind of walk this back a little bit. At this time, you were a math teacher, which was ironic because it was my most horrible subject. And I still, to this day, I'm not good at math.
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Bose Representative
Stop that. Stop that. I want to know. Can you still remember the distance formula song?
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Morgan Huelsman
No.
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Bose Representative
Okay. Now my heart's broken and it was.
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Morgan Huelsman
Never a reflection of you as a teacher. I just was never good at math. And you know this. You know this because not only did I spend a lot of time host all of this happening, but pre I was in there getting tutored often Because I was so bad at math.
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Bose Representative
You have to quit this. You had straight A's in every class you ever took ever. Like, truly a real straight A all four years of high school. So you may not have liked it, but you were definitely better than you think.
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Morgan Huelsman
Okay, well, I'll try and start changing my narrative on that, but it was rough for me. But from your experience at this time, and we'll get to, like, the career change that happened later. But when you were a math teacher and you had your student who, you know was going through something and became this, like, safe haven classroom for you, what was that experience like for you?
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Bose Representative
You know, being in the classroom is so unique because you've got 25 different stories that are sitting right there in front of you. And if you take the time to really get to know each one of them, like, what a privilege to get to be a part of that small piece of that story and hopefully get to be a bright spot in somebody's day, you, girlfriend, you had a lot going on, and a lot of people may not see that on the outside. You obviously are beautiful and always have been, but you had these leadership positions and you were involved and you were athletic and you were smart. But all of those things are great. They don't necessarily shield us or protect us from some of the ugliness that's in the world. And so if you take the time to see what's really going on underneath the surface, it's pretty special if you can try to do something to help make that a better experience for somebody.
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Morgan Huelsman
Yeah. And you. Not only were this safe space in the school when the bullying situation was happening for me, there was often being rumors spread about me on multiple levels. And the reason I would often find a safe haven in your classroom, it was because I didn't want to be around people as the classes were changing and getting looked at. As a kid who's 16, 17 years old, I didn't want to be around 300 people who seemed to think that there was all these horrible things happening in my life and none of them were true, but I couldn't do anything about it. And so being able to come to your classroom just between Pretty much every. I guess I don't know what they're called anymore, but every single break in between classes, I was just, like, running. I would even be across the other entire end of the school and come there for a few minutes and then run back to the other side because it was just that safe place for me. How did you manage that? Where you're like, do I need to do something about this or do I just need to let her keep doing this until. Because I don't know that you knew a lot of the stuff that was happening until it kind of progressed further. What was that for you where you were like, how do I navigate this situation and still make her feel safe?
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Bose Representative
You're right. I kind of came into it late, so I don't know if you remember, but shocker to the people who know me, I don't have a lot of background in cheerleading. It was absolutely not my wheelhouse. But I kind of got to step in and kind of help finish out a season and. And that is one of the ways I got to learn a little bit more about what was going on kind of with you and just wow. Just wow. Truly, I can attribute that one experience to why I went back to school and I decided to get a degree in counseling instead of administration because I looked at what was happening within this group of girls and the power struggle and the bullying. That's not what a lot of people think of as bullying, but that true relational aggression that happened and I went, I'm not prepared to deal with this. I need to. If there's somewhere I can make a difference and try to do better by my students, this is something I need to learn more about. So, yeah, coaching Cheer for me was a real catalyst that shot me into this new career path and I'm grateful that I was there and I'm glad that I could help you. I would never do it again. No chance.
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T-Mobile Representative
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Caroline Hobby
Hey, what's on your mind?
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Podcast Host
She's getting really not afraid to feel tired. Soul to soul, just let it flow.
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Caroline Hobby
No one can do it quite like Caroline.
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T-Mobile Representative
It's time for Caroline.
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Dr. Josie Horczak
And the only set of rules for me now is like, do I actually. Does this feel honest to me? Does it feel real to me? Is it going to have an impact on my listeners? Is it going to help other people? Because for me, you know, I also. I changed what my idea of success was, like, what success looks like for me. Okay, what was it and what is it? Well, before it was, you know, it was radio hits, it was awards. You know, it was the kind of industry accolades. And I did. I got a lot of those when I was in Canada. And I'm. I'm very grateful for them. And it was really fun winning those awards and going to the afterparty and, you know, everybody's praising you and everything. But then you see how quickly those same people don't give a about you when you're not winning anymore, and you realize how fleeting and how actually kind of invaluable, like, how not valuable those things really are. And I also, you know, recognized how much I had fixated on those things in my life, thinking that they were the only things that made me valuable. It all stems back. It all stems back to that. Yeah. And it's like, you know, I. I always. Any. In anything I'm doing, in any endeavor, I always am thinking big picture, big, big, big picture, zoom all the way out to, like, when I'm, like, old and like, it's about to be my time to go, what are the things that I'm gonna think about? What will I look back on? What is going to comp. You know, what will my legacy comprise of? What are the things that people are going to remember about me and say about me when I'm gone and what I created? I'm not going to think about the money I made or the awards on the shelf or, you know, and people aren't going to say, oh, that Megan Patrick, she sure made a lot of money. Like, why would I care about that? No, I want to write songs. You know, it's why I wrote songs like Blood from a stone and boy who cried drunk and whether you love me or not. Because I have, I have a platform and I have a voice. And I believe that God gave me these gifts for something more than just making a career out of it. I believe that he gave me these gifts to help others because I think that I have a talent outside of just singing to motivate and inspire people and make them want to be their best selves. And just leading by example of like, hey, you know, if I can do this for myself, if I can, you know, rise above all these things that have happened to me, then you can too. And opening up the conversation, especially, you know, like, with blood from a stone, it's a very kind of like, there's a lot of like, stigma around especially I think, daughters that, that no longer have relationships with their mothers. You know, it's like, I feel like the daughters are expected to sort of be. Become the caretaker of, like, their parents as they get older. And like, you're. But you're always the one that. That's the oldest daughter, right? You're supposed to take care of everybody else. And, you know, I. There's a lot of judgment that comes from people who haven't grown up in like, an abusive situation and they're just. But it's your mother. Like, how could you just like, do that? Like, you're, you're a bad person. Like, how could you just do that to your own mother? And, and it's. It comes down to this, this simple question of like, okay, well, have you ever met like, an asshole, like someone who is not a good person who abuses other people? And the answer is like, of course, yes. For most people, it's like, okay, well, that could be someone's mother, father, brother, sister, you know, whatever. Like, being blood related is not. Is not. Doesn't give the excuse to abuse the people closest to you. And at the end of the day, like, if that's the person who is hurting you the most, like, why should, why should you feel bad about setting those boundaries? And that conversation needs to be had about how damaging it is. And I feel like there are a lot of people in my generation because therapy and mental health has become a bigger conversation. You know, they are going to therapy and going, oh, actually the most damaging thing in my life is a parent. And, you know, I Think it just needs to be normalized, that it's okay for you to set those boundaries and not have that relationship with a family member if it's, if it's damaging to you. So I just hope it opens up that conversation and I hope it gives permission to a lot of other people who have been through what I've been through or where I'm at. I hope it gives them permission to move on. And I'm not saying that it's not so painful for me. Like, of course it is. Like, she still exists, you know, she still is my. The person who gave birth to me. And there are moments where, you know, something big happens or, you know, moments where you're like, I'm going to call all the people I love and tell them about this moment. And I have that fleeting moment of I'm going to call her and then I remember, like, that's. That doesn't exist for me. But also the person I wish I could call doesn't exist either. That's. I have to remember that, like, that's heavy. That the person I. The conversation, the conversation and the moment I'm wishing to have doesn't exist for me. It's not in the cards for me. But that doesn't mean that I, you know, that God hasn't provided me with so many other people that, that fill, that helped to fill that hole. My amazing mother in law, you know, my stepmom, like, I'm. I am incredibly blessed with so many people that love me for just who I am, regardless of the money I make or the success that I have. I have, you know, surrounded myself with good people that love me for all the right reasons. And so I just, I keep my focus on that and not what I don't have. I mean, some people don't even get like one good parent. I have an awesome dad, you know, and we're very close. So did your parents divorce young? So your dad was in there in the. How was that?
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Podcast Host
Because you wrote a song called Iron.
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Dr. Josie Horczak
Man which could not portray your dad more oppositely than your mom. Yeah. So they were married like 35 years.
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Podcast Host
How.
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Netflix Representative
So how did that separation happen where.
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Dr. Josie Horczak
Your dad was so awesome and your mom was so toxic? Well, I think he, I think he took the brunt of a lot of it. He tried to shelter us and shield us from a lot of things, you know, and he stayed as long as he did for us, you know, for me and my sister.
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Podcast Host
He didn't want to leave you.
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Dr. Josie Horczak
You know, and also, like, he was also in an abusive relationship, you know, so. Yeah, and we've all had to do a lot of healing. My dad, my sister, me. But thankfully, you know, we've been able to do that together. We've had a lot of long talks and conversations and, you know, I can always call them when I'm going through something, you know, that pertains to her. I mean, obviously putting out this song, you know, I didn't really know how that would be received or if something was going to happen. You know, I still. She still hasn't spoken to me or reached out. She does other things, though, like, you know, before. Before the song came out. Yeah. She would, like, comment on stuff, like on social media. Like when I got. Yeah, like when I got my first gold record, you know, she left a comment like, oh, just so proud of you, honey. Like, love you. And it's like, even after. Spoken in a year, even after that email. Yes. And it's like. And that's when I realized, oh, she doesn't. She doesn't really care about being my mom, but she still wants to be Megan Patrick's mom. And that just further, you know, just further spoke to the. The whole the golden child thing. She was still trying to hang on. She thought that she could just kind of hang on to the pieces of me that. That, you know, reflected well on her. Like, oh, well, I'm successful, so by proxy, so is she, you know, and. But without actually having a relationship with me. And that was really. That was really hurtful. You know, that was. That was a step beyond. It was, like, worse than the silence because it just goes to show, like, just how much she really doesn't care, you know, how any of that affects me. And she will do whatever she wants to do for herself. And, you know, there's been a lot of things that she's done where she has sort of peripherally tried to be around me or attach herself to me without ever actually acknowledging the letter or acknowledging the issue, you know, at the root of everything. And so for me, and I'm sure there's some people that would say, oh, that's. You know, she's just trying to reach out in her own way. No bull. That's. No. If she wants a relationship with me, she can start with, I'm sorry, and let's talk about all the ways that I've hurt you and how we fix that and how I can do better.
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Caroline Hobby
Hey, it's Mike D. And this week on Movie Mike's Movie podcast, I got a little vulnerable talking about a New movie called A Real Pain starring Jesse Eisenberg and Karrion Culkin, who you may know from Succession. This movie hit me in such a way that I wasn't expecting and I talked about things I've never talked about before. They play two cousins who are the complete opposites. And I think I saw a lot of myself and Jesse Eisenberg's character. I talked about it here in this review. Had a lot of nice messages of people reaching out, saying they appreciated me being so open about it. So I wanted to share this with you. Now here's a little bit of my spoiler free review of A Real Pain. Be sure to check out the full review on my podcast, Movie Mike's movie podcast. Let's get into it now. A spoiler free movie review of A Real Pain starring Kyrian Culkin and Jesse Eisenberg, also written and directed by Jesse Eisenberg. You have two very opposite people here. Jesse Eisenberg plays a character named David. Karrion Culkin plays a character named Benji. They are cousins. They are at this point in their like mid to late 30s where they're kind of had a falling out. And you learn more and more details about their relationship as the movie unfolds. But the movie starts with them going on a trip because their grandmother just died. They're going to Poland, and it's the first time they've seen each other in a very long time. And what I loved about the start of this movie is within five minutes you know all the details about these characters that you need to know. And that was a really strong opening because starts out with Jesse Eisenberg's character driving to the airport. He's in an Uber and he calls his cousin like five times because he is so anxious and just telling him, hey, there's traffic here. If you haven't left yet, I hope you've left by now. Hey, calling you again. Don't want to leave another message. And that tells you everything you need to know about that character. Being very high stress, just very tightly wound, worrying about every single detail on this trip. And then you have Kirian Culkin's character who hasn't replied any of his phone calls, hasn't listened to any of his messages. And he's just hanging out at the airport. He's like, yeah, I've been here for like a couple hours, few hours because I like to come here and people watch. So that really tells you the complete opposite nature of both of these characters. And the more and more you learn about each of them, the more I realize how much I am like Jesse Eisenberg's character. And I have to say, it didn't make me feel that good because that's something I've been struggling with recently, because being so anxious and worried about just the little parts of life and having things in order, worrying about your job in this movie. He is married, also has a very young son. So not at that phase of my life yet. But all the characteristics of Jesse Eisenberg I saw myself in, and all the characteristics of Benji, played by Kyrian Culkin. I saw what I've been trying to achieve my entire adult life. And there's some moments in this movie where they butt head so much because they're so different. And you could say they're like an odd couple. But I feel like that's such an old reference to an old movie of, like, one's really clean and one's really messy. How will they get together? It's not really like that. It's more that Jesse Eisenberg has changed over the course of his life to be more adult because he is in his mid to late 30s. And Kyrian Culkin is very much just still carefree and has a much different approach to life. Doesn't give a crap about anything. And that is something that I have strived to be a little bit more. I would love to be more carefree, and not just because I feel like I would have less stress. I think I would always carry the stress with me because that is something I've had since a very young age. But I think there are moments in this movie that I thought I want to be more charismatic and be able to light a room up when I walk into it. And I feel that that is something that I've just tried to do. But because over the course of my life, I've always been known as the quiet guy, which I hate. I mean, I come on here and I talk 45 minutes to an hour a week about movies, and I could do that every single day, and I would still be the quiet guy. And there was something about this movie bringing out Benji's character, of him being able to connect with people. That is something I've been just trying to do my entire life of. If I ever go hang out with a new group of people, oh, I feel very tense. That is hard for me to make new friends in a small group, big groups. I go on stage and tell jokes. That's no problem to me. I ain't connecting that way. Because to me, that doesn't feel real. You give me 500 people, a thousand people, it doesn't matter. I've done that before. That is easy to me. But connecting with just a small group of people, I can't do it. And if I went to hang out with people, like, for a weekend and like, hey, here's Mike, and you hang out for the entire weekend, I don't feel like I would bond with those people. And I feel that that is something I've tried to do because I have met people that I enjoy after just an hour of meeting with them. And I want to be around them more. I want to know what they have thoughts about. And there are people I like so instantly that I always wish that I could be that type of person. Some of my friends are those type of people who can just talk to anybody, strike up a conversation and get all these details out of people because they are so warm and friendly and inviting. And there's a moment in this movie where Kiri and Culkin learn something about the other members of this tour group that they go on, because they go on this trip to Poland. But they are joining this tour guide who has, like, a very interesting cast of people with him. And you have Kyrian, Culkin's character, who is learning all these things about other people because he's genuinely curious. He likes talking to people, and they all start to like him. Some of them don't like him for that same reason, but some of them form, like, a really strong relationship with him just because he has that warm nature, that charismatic nature, who he is, somebody who just comes into a room, says what he says, and people connect with that. And I've always wanted to do that because I feel over the course of my life that sometimes I feel that people just don't like me. Not just that they don't like me. It's that I don't do enough things for people to have an opinion on me or I don't say a whole lot. I don't put a lot out there. So it's not that people don't like me because they're like, I don't like that guy. It's just because I feel that I kind of blend into the background sometimes that people don't like me, but they also don't like. They don't hate me. And I think that's almost worse. That is something I've just been fighting because, like I said, going back to that example, if you met people, spend a weekend with them, I feel like I'm so forgettable for that reason. And I think people genuinely think I'm a nice person, I'm a nice guy. But there's just something about not being able to connect with people in that way that I've just been striving to do for my entire adult life, maybe even since I was a teenager. I didn't have friends then, but I feel like even growing up now, like, I just want to have that. And there are moments in this movie where it really was like, did they make this movie just for me? Jesse Eisenberg, did you, like, hack into my computer and find all my journals and all my notes and listen to this podcast of all these things I struggled with? And I haven't watched a movie that just nailed that aspect of my life because this is probably something I should talk about in therapy. But it just really struck a chord with me and unearthed something in me. So for a real pain, I give it 4.5 out of 5. I would say that 0.5 is more of the emotional impact that had on me. So for any other person who doesn't struggle with that, it's probably still a 4 out of 5. A really great movie, though. Definitely. Check it out if you want to get in early on. Some of the movies are going to be nominated for Best Picture.
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Podcast Host
Thanks for listening to this week's Sunday Sampler. New episodes from all the shows are out, so go check them out. The Bobby Cast 4 Things with Amy Brown Sore Losers Movie Mike's Movie Podcast Get Real with Caroline Hobby Take this Personally with Morgan Huelsman. Any of those you like that? Go check out the full episode. Subscribe. Have a great week. Bye everybody. What's up? It's me, Don Toliver. If I could describe the open earbud.
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Caroline Hobby
I would describe it as very seamless. It's like you clip it onto your ear and then sometimes you can forget.
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Podcast Host
It'S there, but it's not going anywhere.
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Caroline Hobby
Because it's like clipped.
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Podcast Host
It's kind of crazy. If I could bring my music with.
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Caroline Hobby
Me wherever I go and just make.
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Podcast Host
Life easier and seamless without interruption.
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Caroline Hobby
To be able to have the music.
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