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Break out the tin foil because we are about to go down some rabbit holes. I gotta
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
we need our hats.
Morgan Huelsman
We do. We need tinfoil hats. We are gonna talk about conspiracy theories and we both love this, right? We both love this. This is a jam.
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We nerd out on this and when
Morgan Huelsman
I say we this is my fiance Brayden who is joining me for this epic episode. We've had a lot of intense episodes lately which have been so so important and so good but I thought it would be fun to go down on stuff that is just interesting and really Shows the side of my human where I love to question everything. You know that about me. I like knowledge.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Absolutely.
Morgan Huelsman
I love to question things. I like to get down to the nitty gritty details of things and conspiracy theories are no exception. And that's also the same for you?
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Very much so. I think we live in a society where we're told things and we just learn to take that for what it is and that's the truth. And I think it's fun to see other sides of stories or stuff like that.
Morgan Huelsman
So it's fun, it's interesting because you're big on the history side, I'm big on the science side. Those are like where we're in. Science and history together are perfect blends. Of course we are getting married. Duh. But if you heard the episode with my 87 year old grandma, you will understand the way that I am. She was very much a science driven woman. She also questioned a lot of things, shared a lot of her knowledge with the world that she learned with me. And so it just taught me to always have a genuine curiosity about things.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Yeah.
Morgan Huelsman
So are you ready to dive? Where did your love for conspiracy theories history come from?
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
I remember as a kid going on vacation and if anything was brought up history wise, I thought it was so cool that I was standing exactly where so and so had stood. I remember going to the four corners in Colorado, obviously four states. But I remember thinking to myself how many thousands of people have stood in this exact point? And that always fascinated me that other people had existed in the same spot that I had. And I think that just over time I just became obsessed with it. I'm not obsessed with history. I'm just really fascinated by. I think it's so cool.
Morgan Huelsman
Yeah. We don't have a secret area in the house where we hold all of this. This is just him and I exploring it In TV shows, documentaries, movies, on social media, in. In articles and journals is where all the exploration has happened in museums and stuff like that and experiences in travel. We went to. Where were we at? Where the mounds were that we went to the mountains. Was that Iowa?
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
That was in Iowa, yeah.
Morgan Huelsman
So we were in what was very much indigenous land once upon a time where the mounds are super popular in specific cultures for burials or sacred sites. And Brandon was so excited when we were on the Strip. I went to go see more mounds, mounds like the Serpent Mound and these. You were just so engaged in the history which I'm excited for more of our travels, especially internationally. I feel like a lot of the History is going to play such a big role for us. So I am excited about that. But that's a little bit of our background, why we love these things, why we're getting into them. And I'm gonna say this right here, right now, none of this is true. We are not in any of these fields. We don't know anything for certain.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
This is for entertainment only, literally.
Morgan Huelsman
These are just rabbit holes we've gone down that we want to talk about and explore because we're so intrigued by them and the possibility that they could be real and some may be more factual, maybe more spiritual, who knows? We're just talking about them because it's fun to talk about things sometimes and live in a little bit of a different world where everything is black and white. And I have also said on this podcast many times, I don't believe things are black and white. It's often in the gray area. I love to exist there. And this is one of those episodes where we are going to exist. Yeah, in the gray area.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Let's do it.
Morgan Huelsman
You ready for this? You. You want to do one of yours first? We each have three. We each brought research, facts, things that we understood from all of our research to this podcast.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
And I think it's fun because we obviously discussed what we were going to talk about, but I don't think either of us know the inner workings. And so we'll get to learn, and you'll get natural reactions, and I think it'll be fun.
Morgan Huelsman
So everybody grab those tinfoil hats. We are doing this.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
There we go.
Morgan Huelsman
You. I'm excited to go down this particular rabbit hole because we have been to national parks, both of us, and they are a big part of places that I want to travel and keep going to. So the creation of national parks was to obviously conserve ecosystems, wildlife, landscapes, but also cultural resources in for future generations, some of those being the Cold War history, things to. To keep it preserved over a long time. And there's over 80 to 100 national monuments, national parks that are connected to the American military history, which is interesting. I never really knew that. I thought a lot of them were just ecosystems and landscapes that we love that are beautiful. I never really looked into the other side of it, but I think that's important because a lot of people believe that there's a lot of secrecy around our wars and around military. So a lot of people are questioning what are the national parks actually hiding, and is there something that people aren't sharing with us about the national park? So there's a belief that certain national parks contain portals or hidden gateways to other dimensions.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
What?
Morgan Huelsman
Yes.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Okay.
Morgan Huelsman
Just like the movies, you walk in and you are somewhere else. There's belief that they go to the inside of the earth. There's belief that they go to other planets. There's belief that they go to other states. There's belief that they just sit right there. These portals could mean a lot of different things, Right. So it could also be to underground civilizations. It could be to alien bases, to spiritual realms. This belief is pretty widespread on what the portals mean. A lot of people seem to think that if you stumble upon an arch or a cave or two trees that look a little suspicious walking through them, a potential portal. Now, on the even creepier side of this Is that people have stumbled upon staircases out in the wide open that look completely abandoned. And people say not to go on those staircases because they do lead somewhere. Now to. Is that scientific proof evidence? There really isn't any. There is a whole belief in the. That came out about this was the missing 411 series by a man named David. And I haven't really deep dove that side, but there is map connections where people have reported going missing, where these potential portals lay. And that's why there's a lot of Just more mystery per se around this. It's also connected to bigfoot sightings. There's a lot of people that believe bigfoot is actually an interdimensional being that's traveling through these portals to different places, which is why nobody's ever caught him.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
This is a time traveler, A furry
Morgan Huelsman
time traveler or an alien. And he's utilizing these, which is why nobody can ever place him. He knows how to travel through these dimensions and portals. So that's the base of this belief. How do you feel? There are portals and there are these interdimensional spaces in national parks.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
I want to go find one.
Morgan Huelsman
Would you go in one?
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Heck, yeah.
Morgan Huelsman
If it means you never come back out.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Jump in. You, me, Remy, hazel, jump in.
Morgan Huelsman
And we may never come back. We never know what's on the other side.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
We've been watching a lot of star trek and good things happen when you go through a portal.
Morgan Huelsman
Right? Right. So why. This might hold some evidence. So obviously, national parks are huge. Not a lot of people live in them. You have workers that live in them. You also have employees of national say you have volunteers. And when I say workers, there's people who will live at campsites to help with that. And they're like for a season. And you can only live In a national park, if you were living there before it became a national park, which there's not a lot of that. So population small, that means a lot of things can happen undetected. They're really difficult to search because they're full of, whether it be caves, difficult terrain, geothermal activity. There's just a lot of landscape around there that just makes it hard to navigate certain things. Right. And with the connection to the missing 411 missing cases and people never being heard from, there's even a report of a guy who went missing in one national park and showed up on a completely other side of the country in another national park. And he has no idea how, why. People have reports of time being lost, that they were one place and now all of a sudden hours have passed and they have no idea what happened. So these are all reports similar to people talking about being abducted by aliens, seeing aliens. So that's why the belief is hard to understand and hard to say if it's true or not. Because we don't know that portals are
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
real until you experience it.
Morgan Huelsman
Exactly.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Don't knock it till you try it.
Morgan Huelsman
So there's also this other idea around it too, is that these portals lead to underground bases and tunnel systems where there's like Area 51, Dolce Base, Mount Shasta. I don't even know if I'm pronouncing those names correctly. Those are some examples. Dolce Base people think is a joint human and alien underground facility that's beneath this mesa in Mesa. Mesa Mesa in New Mexico, which. Okay, so this is the legend behind it. It originated in the 1970s. They think that extraterrestrials and government agents conduct genetic experiments on humans and animals inside of this multi story subterranean complex. So there was a guy who believed he intercepted communications from alien spacecraft communic with a secret facility near the Colorado, New Mexico border. There's even these particular papers from Dolce Papers described the seven story underground laboratory where humans and aliens are working together. Though some of the stories claim a war broke out between the two factions in the late 1970s and there were locals along with researchers who have pointed to stories of cattle mutilations, glowing crafts, strange lights over the area, and alleged sightings of biological creatures. So a lot of things happening in this particular area connect to that story, that this is a possible existence over there. Okay, do you think that there is a world in which humans have already discovered another life form? Aliens, extraterrestrials. And there is a group of them that are, or at once were working with Him.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
There are more stars in the sky than grains of sand on planet Earth.
Morgan Huelsman
Yeah.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
I think we have no idea what's going on. And if there is other civilizations, are they way more advanced, are they less advanced? We don't know. And that's okay. That's what science has to prove it. Right. So it's like maybe there is and maybe aliens are here. Do I think so? I think it'd be pretty cool.
Morgan Huelsman
I think it'd be awesome.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
And life is still going on, so I think that's awesome. So, yeah, sure. If you need a yes or no answer.
Morgan Huelsman
Yes, it's possible.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Remy is my source.
Morgan Huelsman
And honestly, then it also connects to the Bigfoot theory with some of them that the interdimensional is connected to this underground area and that was one of the creatures that was created. It's more. It could be just a one person, it could be a few of them that were created. Who knows? But they do all connect. And there is a lot of connections here, that place to whatever it is definitely being something that we are not familiar with.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Yeah.
Morgan Huelsman
I don't know how else you explain people going missing, time being lost. A lot of people love to contribute. Anyone who's had a different experience, them as crazy as that's not possible, that couldn't happen. But again, if somebody were to come to me and say that, I'd be like, tell me more. How did that happen? What do you remember? Because I think the moment you start to question everything is when your whole world opens up to possibilities. If you don't question anything, you never evolve. Right. And so to evolve, we have to question, we have to understand. Doesn't mean you have to believe it to be true. But to question something is to have knowledge.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
I want to question that guy that ended up across the country.
Morgan Huelsman
Right.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
That's a fascinating story.
Morgan Huelsman
And I haven't gone down in a deep wormhole on the missing 411 series. I need to get some more research and evidence. So there's also another part to this. There are these things called ley lines. And this all started with a man named Alfred watkins. In the 1920s. He noticed, you'll love this, that ancient sites in England lined up geographically like standing stones, burial mounds. And all these basis of history lined up with ley lines that are invisible energy lines that crisscross the earth in certain sacred sites. So these ley lines could be connected to said portals.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Yeah.
Morgan Huelsman
Which has now evolved. This theory that he had is now obviously evolved into the portals, the interdimensional sides. But there is this Belief of ley lines, that connects a lot of things, and that's energy. And energy is a lot of things that we don't understand yet.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Yeah, absolutely. I've heard of ley lines before and how certain I think Stonehenge is on one. It's where three ley lines cross. And, yeah, there's different sites that just happen to be on these energy.
Morgan Huelsman
And you go back to when I catch some of his glimpses of the documentaries that he's watching about history and ancient sites and people going to explore them, and I have a feeling you might be walking us down there, which is that aliens are connected to a lot of that, or just people, maybe even more advanced civilizations than we thought. It's a really interesting theory that there could be more advanced civilizations than us that came before us, and it could also be connected to a lot of that. And honestly, a lot of indigenous cultures believed a lot of things about earth and ground and animals and nature. And quite frankly, I think they were very smart in a lot of what they were doing. They were one of the first people to understand a lot of this stuff. And so if we kind of go back to those ideas and beliefs before people were swayed in each direction or the other because of technology, because of the Industrial Revolution, because of how we evolved, then I feel like we should be trusting some of the people who maybe saw things that we did not see or saw before they got hidden or saw things that happened that they couldn't explain at the time, but they found ways to explain them through sacred sites or burial grounds or whatever. And I think that's a really interesting idea to walk down.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Yeah, absolutely. And right into my next one.
Morgan Huelsman
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Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
The show that you were talking about is my favorite show. I can't stop watching. I've probably watched it through 20 times. There's two seasons and it's kind of my. Some people watch Friends, some people watch the Office. No. What's Gilmore Girls?
Morgan Huelsman
I love Gilmore Girls.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Yep. Or Grey's Anatomy. People have their show they go back to. I go back to Ancient Apocalypse with Graham Hancock. He I just absolutely love. I love how he tells his stories. I love the content. So it's my all time favorite show right in this moment. So basically in Ancient Apocalypse, he is trying to prove that there were sophisticated civilizations that were not necessarily more advanced than we are now, but they're more advanced than we would think hunter gatherers were. And these civilizations lived before the last ice age. So we're talking like 13,000 years ago. So 10,000 BC somewhere in there. So a couple things that two of my favorite. I'm going to show two of my favorites. I could go episode by episode because I love every place he goes to. But my favorite by far is called Go Becky Tempe. And it's in Turkey. And it was found a farmer he was working on, it's this big hill on his land and he came across some stones and stuff and they started digging. And now it's a museum. It's an outdoor museum. And it has these giant megaliths with all kinds of carvings on them that align with the stars. And it's just like all this stuff that if you gave me my lifetime to try to figure out what the stars are doing and then create a site to show that and carve. And these megaliths are tons and tons, like heavy, heavy material. How did they get them lifted? It's absolutely fascinating. So I love go back Tempe. The structures date back to 10,000 BC and it's just. It's the question of how, like, how did a civilization 12,000 years ago figure out all this stuff? How the stars align and different animals and there's images where it definitely looks like something's coming down from the sky. And it's people with oblong heads and just stuff that makes you think. And then the second one is this one's more just how did humans produce something like that? And it's an underground city and it's called Derinkuyu. And again, cool. This guy was remodeling his home and he knocked down a wall and he found the entrance to a tunnel. And that tunnel led to an underground city. And this underground city is built like an ant farm. It can house 20,000 people. And it has. Let's see, it's 18 stories. It. Yeah, it can hold 20, 000 people. It had living quarters, stables for livestock, communal kitchens, wineries, oil presses, schools and chapels all underneath the ground.
Morgan Huelsman
And how they didn't have the technology. Again, I talk about the industrial revolution that created a lot of just industrialized things that we use in machinery and everything. They didn't have any of that. None of that was created. As far as we know. Right. As far as we have been told in history of what we have found from archaeologists and whatever, that stuff didn't exist to create such an elaborate thing underneath the ground. They think about it, they wouldn't have even had shovels for what we know, or traditional shovels or anything even manually to do that. Or did they?
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Yeah, just my stone tools. I'm going to dig out a city in rock and be able to create all these different rooms. They dug deep enough to get to the water table underneath and that created ventilation. So they have ventilation cylinders that go all the way up. And so they were able to have fire underground. Obviously it's big enough for livestock to go around. Absolutely fascinating. They don't even know how old it is just because they carved into rock. They didn't. There's nothing to date the rock. Right. Because it's just the rock. So it's. And different civilizations have writings saying that they use the facility, but no one ever has talked about when it was made. So it's fascinating stuff. And a guy was just remodeling his house and they had an entire underground city. That city also has tunnels that lead to other underground cities that aren't as big, that span for miles. And they're going to other underground cities. How would you know which way to take your stone tools and start carving into the wall to get to another? I just absolutely fascinated.
Morgan Huelsman
And how did you know that it was okay to do that? How did you. Did somebody first create the first one? They're like, oh, I can live down here. I'm fine. Oh, how did they know that they could keep digging and they would be safe to go dig? Everything we've learned about science is the Earth. The mantle, the crust, the talking about the earth. How do we know where that begins and ends, especially back then? I'm assuming they don't know about those things at least. Again, what we've been told.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
No.
Morgan Huelsman
I just think we don't give a lot of credit to what happened before us.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
No. And again, I think we don't know. And it's so fun to figure out. And it's okay to say that we don't know. You don't have to have the answer. No.
Morgan Huelsman
But how cool that there was people once upon a time who were on this very floating rock in space, who dug an underground world and lived there and lived an entire life down there.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
And another piece to that is why. Why would you go underground? Were you hiding from something?
Morgan Huelsman
Was it unsafe to be living above?
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Was it too hot? So they were like being in the ground is going to be cooler. Like why every other civilization built up. Right. Huts and teepees and whatever. They went down. And it's just why.
Morgan Huelsman
And was it created later? Was it from somebody from somewhere else who came here and created that and they were hiding so people wouldn't find them?
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Yeah.
Morgan Huelsman
But then something happened and they're not there anymore.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Yeah. Fascinating stuff. So Darren Kuyu.
Morgan Huelsman
So fascinating. We'll have to hopefully visit one day if we can. I would love go on there.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
And Darren Kuyu is in Turkey as well. So we'll just. We'll hit Go Becky Tempe and then we'll hit Darren Ku.
Morgan Huelsman
We can make that happen for you, babe. Do some history traveling. Speaking of TV shows, this is one of my theories, okay, around movies and TV shows. That they are made up by people who have either experienced said movie, TV show in their life or in a past life and or our government's way of mixing up the truth. So either we don't believe something when it comes out or we're skeptical when something does come out. So we're a little bit more questioning than really knowledgeable, if you will. So there's this belief that some writers, directors aren't inventing the stories, but they're remembering real experiences using hidden knowledge they may have and disclosing that information through a way of a movie or a TV show. Now, if we really talk about reincarnation as well, which is going to be my next conspiracy theory that we'll get into.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Here we go.
Morgan Huelsman
That maybe some of these creators have actually experienced said life in a different life in a different dimension, different timeline. And they're remembering pieces of it to piece together a story that they create for us to consume. So a lot of examples that people mention potential that they are connected and wound up in. This is like the Matrix, Interstellar, Stranger Things, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Contagion, Black Mirror. And like we've been talking a lot about Star Trek except been binge watching it. He's also been binge watching it with me. I've got him in on it now. Yes, long live and prosper Vulcans. But you want to talk about something that's crazy. The Hubble telescope just celebrated finding its 6000, 6000th planet. 6000 planets out there in space that up until the Hubble was even created about, I don't know, like 30 years or so ago now that we didn't even know were out there. We knew about our galaxy, we knew about the systems that are in our galaxy. But 6,000 planets and we know nothing about what is on them. What could potentially be on them. Is there life on them? Is there other species, other existence of things? Is there other ways to live in an atmosphere that we just believe you can't live in because are everything carbon based? And this theory of Star Trek really connects the two. Is there somebody who has seeing what that could look like with all those 6000 planets and traveling into space and going to different planets and that's what it looks like is a lot like exploration in Star Trek. And so it could also be on the flip side. That's the one that I really believe in. But I also don't put it past sadly our government to be doing predictive programming where whether it's the government elites or insiders, anybody with higher power to be real revealing the truth about the world before they happen in real life to either prepare us or deter us from figuring out the real truth. So it's almost as if TVs shows or movies could be the original form of AI. AI has been introduced. Now we question everything. What's real, what's not real. There was a purpose behind that and obviously with technology evolving it creates more questions, more lack of understanding, more lack of wanting to explore the knowledge for ourselves. And so you think about AI and how it's making everybody question everything. Now I think TV shows and movies and forms of entertainment, we're also doing that. You know what I mean? It's the original form of is this actually possible? Is this true and we don't know it? So I think it could certainly be a bit of both. If I were to gamble on whichever theory I would weigh down, I think it's both. I think you could take a lot of things. I had a guy on here that came on the podcast and he was a hypnotherapist, hypnosis a lot of what we know. And he was talking about how a lot of his work has really been people believing it's a joke because of movies and TV shows, it's really been stereotyped in movies or TV shows, it's magic or not possible or making people do Silly things. When really hypnosis is you attaching to your subconscious mind. It's an actual practice that can help you better understand yourself. But why have we been taught that it's this magic gimmicky thing that can't possibly help you. Why? Why have we been talking?
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
No, just to be conditioned.
Morgan Huelsman
Yeah. To be seeing things in a way that we are being taught to see them for a specific reason. So, thoughts, Give me your thoughts on this particular conspiracy theory.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Yeah, it's. I have some questions for Michael Bay. I'd like to know if he knows how to make a transformer.
Morgan Huelsman
Right. Because is there a planet of transformers out there?
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
I don't know. We're gonna have to ask Mr. Bay.
Morgan Huelsman
Highly possible. If you think about Earth and Earth being one of the. One of 6,000 planets out there that we have life here and we've created technology and technology has evolved and we have robots. So why is there not a belief that there's not another planet out there that evolved even further past the technology to create robots that have evolved?
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
No. I believe it was last week. We landed a probe on an asteroid that had all the basis for water and it was a carbon based rock and it came from somewhere. That's what you need for life like.
Morgan Huelsman
For life like us, though.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Yeah.
Morgan Huelsman
Right. And that's what's always interesting to me, that people, we say in some of the planets that we've explored so far, NASA and our space programs have been able to understand so far is that they don't have a basis for life that's like us. But who's to say all life is like us?
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
It doesn't have to be carbon based. It doesn't need water.
Morgan Huelsman
Yeah.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Who knows?
Morgan Huelsman
If we were created in this way to be able to sustain this particular atmosphere, what's to say that somebody else hasn't been created to sustain another particular atmosphere?
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Right. A methane atmosphere.
Morgan Huelsman
Who knows? And it started with dinosaurs. Dinosaurs were here. So think of potentially different creatures in other worlds being that. And maybe there's a world where dinosaurs evolved. Who knows? There's 6,000 legit planets in the entire vast space that we know about at this moment in time. I'm sure there's thousands more that we have not discovered.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Oh, gosh, yes.
Morgan Huelsman
And so I think there's all kinds of options and realities and transformers and I'm going to say a spoiler here about Project Hail Mary. Just give you a break to pause this really quick if you don't want the spoiler. But Rockies in the world can Be rock Aliens. Yeah. If you've watched it, you've watched it. Okay, you can continue. I'm not going to do any more spoilers, but there's so many just variations of what that could look like. So we've painted certain pictures of aliens, of UFOs, of extraterrestrials, and we have no idea what any of that could possibly look like.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
No.
Morgan Huelsman
But I think TV shows and movies help us to potentially understand that better. I think that's all a really, very real possibility.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Yeah. IRobot, another movie I have not seen, but I've heard that one's very thought provoking and seemed like one of those movies that the director pushed a narrative that you would be like, mm. And they open our minds to a different thought. And now we're numb to it a little bit. Right. And so slowly, you watch movies, you watch TV shows, you read books, and all of a sudden it seems more normal. And then we just had the. I'm not even talking about this today, but the Miami alien incident, just like Miami alien incident a couple weeks ago, there were claims. So at a Miami mall. There was. The entire Miami police department was deployed to the Miami mall. People were saying that there were nine to ten foot beings walking around the mall.
Morgan Huelsman
Okay, wait, I remember about this, but I don't feel like it was recent.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
It was like a month ago.
Morgan Huelsman
Okay. It's a little hard to tell with social media because timelines are all funky, but I do remember reports of this. And then it got scraped from the Internet.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Got scraped from the Internet. Right. And no one really knows. But then someone figured out that. And this is another rabbit hole, we won't go down it. But Miami is the alternate coordinates to Antarctica. Longitude and latitude are switched, and Antarctica has all kinds of stuff going on that we won't go down there, but which.
Morgan Huelsman
I want to go to Antarctica one day, by the way.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
You can't, because it's closed off.
Morgan Huelsman
Yeah, but you can. There's explorations that go there.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Maybe around it. You can't.
Morgan Huelsman
Yeah, there's. I'm sure there's particular places you can't go because of the ecosystem, they say.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
I would love to talk more about that, but we can't do that on this podcast.
Morgan Huelsman
Okay.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
All right. But the whole idea was this whole thing about aliens being at the Miami mall, and then it just goes away.
Morgan Huelsman
Yeah.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
We're now in tune because of Star wars and Star Trek and all alien encounters. No one kept researching it. No one kept looking for it. We're all conditioned because and if you
Morgan Huelsman
keep reading or you talk about it, you say, hey, this is possible. People are like, you're crazy, you're cuckoo. You have your tinfoil hat on. It can't possibly be real. But again, I state that there are 6,000 planets that we know about, and if you don't believe that one of those 6, 000 planets like us, we are what we think one in a million. This planet is one in a million, or one in a billion, or one in a trillion, whatever. You want to say that there is not a possibility that one in those 6,000 also has it, or more than one in those crazy.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Neil DeGrasse Tyson says that if we are one in a million, then it is scientifically inaccurate to say that we are alone.
Morgan Huelsman
True. And he's the goat, so he knows everything. And DT he's another one who I feel like he just knows things. He's been read into some things I love.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Cosmos was my show before Ancient Apocalypse. I Cosmos. Bring it back to the streaming. Bring it back. I want to watch it.
Morgan Huelsman
I need to watch it with you.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Oh my gosh, it's so good.
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So we need to get into our last two. Okay, let's get into yours. Does it relate to anything that we were just talking about? Are we going on a different rabbit hole?
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
It's in the same realm.
Morgan Huelsman
All conspiracy theories are technically in the same realm, but. Right, Take us down there.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
So this is a question again of how. Okay, so we start in Egypt. You know, I love Egypt. You do love Egyptian culture. I love that we don't know. Again, this is a very common thing. I just, I love that we don't understand completely. But the pyramids, the way they live their life, their afterlife, mummification, just everything is fascinating to me. So on this idea of ancient human history and how they did different things, there were vases that were found in Egypt and this was a couple years ago, so this is brand new stuff. But they were so smooth that engineers knew that they had to study them. They found them and it was like, okay, this is not just a regular vase, right? So they, they decided to study how precise they truly were. So at first, the first step was they used mechanical devices and so kind of these metal rings that would go around the sides of the vase and it was showing a 0% imperfection with mechanical devices.
Morgan Huelsman
How.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Okay. And these are made out of granite. Okay. So this is a hard rock. This isn't a soft rock that you could set sand down. This is a whittler.
Morgan Huelsman
You can whittle it.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Just a widow. Widow. So. So after the mechanical devices and after seeing no imperfections, they used laser technology, so they started mapping them using lasers. Okay. Zero percent imperfections using lasers. Okay.
Morgan Huelsman
Okay. And refresh me on the history. When were Egyptians around what year, what decade?
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
We're looking at. We're looking at three. Three to 4,000 years ago.
Morgan Huelsman
Okay.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
I want to say it's three, 400. It's funny, I'm obsessed with it. But. And that should be a very easy answer. But yeah. So we're three to 4,000 years ago, right?
Morgan Huelsman
Which, like, when you say it like that, it doesn't feel like that long ago, but 3,000, 4,000 years ago was a long time ago to have something like this exist.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
How exactly? How exactly? So after the laser test, they took it one step further, and they put these vases in CT scans. Okay, CT scans. If you were to take a human hair and set it on its side, they are precise. If you were to split that human hair into a thousand pieces and take one of those strands, that's how precise CT scans are. Okay. It's called a micron. Micron. Something. Right. So this is the most precise you could possibly be. Right. So in the granite with the CT scans, they found zero percent imperfections. These vases are up to airplane quality. Okay. So the smoothness that needs to be on the panel of an airplane is what? These granite vases that we are supposed to believe were made with stone and copper tools have a zero percent imperfection rate.
Morgan Huelsman
And how many vases like this still exist?
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
They have hundreds of thousands of these vases.
Morgan Huelsman
So not only are they zero imperfections and they've been crazy with this, but they've also withstand stand the test of time, which shows you the quality of them. It didn't degrade over the course of history. That's thousands of years old, and they still exist.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Exactly. Correction. These artifacts are supposedly from 6,000 to 3,000 B.C. okay, so we're looking five to 8,000 years ago.
Morgan Huelsman
Okay.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Okay.
Morgan Huelsman
Still a long time ago.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
All right. And this is where it gets a little bit crazier. So not only are they that smooth, the pattern they used is based on sacred geometry called radial transversion, Meaning that all the measurements of these vases use a harmonic ratio similar to music. So when you start. When you take these vases and you start measuring between different spots. It actually creates a harmonic ratio. Okay. So it's absolutely perfect.
Morgan Huelsman
Okay, it's perfect. And it also is harmonious, which means there was the pattern and plan behind it.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Yes, exactly. And to take it one step further. Okay, this is where it gets kind of crazy, and it's above my knowledge base, but it was awesome listening to different podcasts and reading papers on these vases. The measurements are precise enough that the measurements are precise enough that the base unit of the ratio of that harmonic ratio matches the formula for the speed of light. The numbers.
Morgan Huelsman
Alien technology.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Again, I'm saying how alien technology.
Morgan Huelsman
That is from a different timeline. Species.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
I just don't understand. Hundreds of thousands of these vases are found. They are all this precise. They all have the same patterning, and some of them are big, some of them are tiny. They all have the same ratio. How? I just don't know.
Morgan Huelsman
Aliens. Aliens.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
I'm not going to say it.
Morgan Huelsman
That's my belief. What else makes sense about that? Again, nothing about any of it makes sense. It's the whole purpose of conspiracy theories is we don't know the truth. We don't know what really is.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
But fascinating.
Morgan Huelsman
How do you not question that and that belief? What? How? How? And also, it is possible that people back then were just absolutely fascinating and so creative and so evolved beyond their times that they found ways to do things. Of course, that is a very generic belief in the system of all beliefs. But who the frick really knows?
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
That's what I always say. Who the frick really knows.
Morgan Huelsman
That's insane.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Yeah.
Morgan Huelsman
How much could we own one of these vases? Is it possible to own one of them? Are they protected?
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
They're all in museums.
Morgan Huelsman
Yeah. Can we go visit one?
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Yeah. They're in museums across the world now.
Morgan Huelsman
Okay. We need to go find one. You go visit one of these bases.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Yeah.
Morgan Huelsman
And see them. That is fascinating. How cool.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
I love it. I love it.
Morgan Huelsman
It's so cool to just think as I'm sitting here, just to. To think. I don't know, maybe I'm so weird for this. And again, I can be cuckoo and whatever, but I just think it's so cool that there's so many different possibilities and endless things that we do not understand and that, honestly, we will never understand.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
No.
Morgan Huelsman
I will probably die one day never having any of the answers of any of this, which is such a shame. I would love to know. I wish that when I'm passing into whatever comes next, that they're like, oh, this was true. And this is also true. Or that's false. That's not how that works. Like somebody finally gives me the answers that you're searching for. Because the whole thing about humans is that we desire answers. We desire to know things and file beliefs and fight for these different histories and knowledge and scientific evidence. And that's what we love to do. But it's just crazy when you get into so many more details of things that there's just truly more questions than there ever are answers.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
I've often thought if I found a genie maybe in one of these vases. Rub the vase.
Morgan Huelsman
Yeah. Aladdin could, hey, could go back to a movie.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Yeah.
Morgan Huelsman
Something really happened. There's a special person in there.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Exactly. So yeah, if we, if I get a genie and I get three wishes, my initial thought is always, I would go back in time to see how the pyramids were built.
Morgan Huelsman
Pyramids have a lot of questions around them. What's under there?
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
How did they move 2 ton stones that high up in the sky? And so it would just, I think it would answer a lot of questions. Whether there's a spaceship there moving rocks up, or was it just a scaffolding system?
Morgan Huelsman
Or are a lot of our monuments and things that we believe are these crazy wild structures from history of time? Did somebody place them there on purpose? Is it somebody from afar from the future who came back to do it to protect us later on? There's so many endless possibilities.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Yeah.
Morgan Huelsman
Now speaking of, we're gonna get into my last one. This will be like a little loosey juicy one that's right here at the end. But, and there's a lot of evidence behind this one and a lot of like research evidence based things. So this leans more on potentially research evidence based conspiracy theory where kids remember being completely different people supporting the idea of possible reincarnation, if you will, or just conscious or self subconscious reincarnation. So there was a psychiatrist from the University of Virginia named Dr. Ian Stevenson. And he conducted over 40 years, 3,000 different cases where children remembered their past lives. And he took those children and several hundreds of the cases that he studied. The children were able to verify the names of the people that they were, where they lived, the families that they had. There were even evidence of the real families of specifically where their families would live. They would take them back to those places and they could do nicknames and they could do specifics. And these children obviously had never lived there before. They had their own families. Some of them even remembered birthmarks or defects that they had that directly correlated with wounds from a life they had before. And what's wild is a lot of them where it was just a couple years that they remembered and then they woke up one day and it was all gone. Now, that side of the research that he was doing, there wasn't a lot of understanding of why that was happening. But what's crazy is this man has been published in the American Journal of Psychiatry, the Journal of Nervous and Mental Disease and Journal of the American Medical Association. He was studied, practiced research in several hundred cases. He found evidence to support that these kids were not lying. And these were kids. You could go on Instagram. I'm not going to play any of their videos because they're kids. But you go on Instagram and search kids reincarnation. And there are parents who record their kids talking about different lives that they had.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
I've seen one of them that. It's crazy.
Morgan Huelsman
And there I was watching this little girl talk about how she lived in a world that doesn't exist, how we know it. She would talk about building. She was like, that wasn't there before. These things didn't exist before. Not in the world. And she talked about how she went to this one world, but now she's in this world. And that's what happens to everybody. A kid doesn't just get that over the course of being born to 2 years old, that doesn't happen. So there has to be evidence of something else that would have these kids having this. And he explored it for 40 years.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
That's wild.
Morgan Huelsman
And there's so much evidence that supports it. It's crazy. These are real videos. They're not. I. I know we're in an AI time period, but these are real videos. Real kids. Their parents corroborate that they've been having these memories that they have these things that happened.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
And it's just as freaky for the other families too, where a little kid is coming in and knows your name and can recall certain events. And it gives me the heebies. Yeah.
Morgan Huelsman
To think that this is like a. It could be a transfer of some of your conscious mind. It could be a transfer of energy. It could be reincarnation, which I know a lot of people are so dicey about. It could be any of it. We don't know. We don't know the reasoning behind it. But there is physical cases and evidence that support that this really happens. Which is wild to me.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Yeah.
Morgan Huelsman
Which also goes to show that again, we do not know everything. What if there's evidence? There's somebody who studied this for 40 years. He had A whole team dedicated to it that they support is wild. And he was published. He was published in so many things. So it's not like he'd be like, oh, he was crazy. Whatever. He was studying the mind and trying to understand this particular form of what was happening to kids. And it always happened to kids. And kids would remember past lives in a particular age bracket. I want to say they were like 2 to 5. It would happen. And from there, then at that point, they start to forget it and they, like, almost completely forget everything that they were talking about.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
That's crazy.
Morgan Huelsman
Wild.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
It was crazy.
Morgan Huelsman
So there's this whole other world. I just love going down any of these places, any of these rabbit holes, because I again, come back to the fact that I do not know a damn thing. I don't. And, you know, I get it. We study and we teach things in school, and there's history, and I don't discount any of that. But there's also a whole lot of things that we don't have history on. There's a whole lot of things that people weren't around to record and share later. We only have monuments and creations and. What'd you talk about? The monoliths, these Stonehenge. We have all these things that we attribute to something. But what if there is more history behind them? What if there is more to all of them that we don't understand? And so I love this.
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Morgan Huelsman
love to question everything.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Yes. Can I close it out with rapid fire? I have a few.
Morgan Huelsman
Give us some rapid fire to close it out.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
If you're still with us at home, write these down and look them up because they're fascinating. Alrighty, so first one. The Ulfberht swords. They were swords made of steel so pure the technology to make them wasn't even invented for another 800 years.
Morgan Huelsman
Fascinating time traveler.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
All right, the ancient H blocks of Puma Punka. Okay? They are perfect granite blocks. Perfectly smooth, and they're carved like H's. Okay. Blocks of rock cut so precise you would need diamonds or lasers to reproduce them. Okay. There's other rocks in Ancient Apocalypse that were supposedly cut with stone. You couldn't even fit a credit card in between the joints of them. Absolutely fascinating. All right, next one. Sanjamma lines in Bolivia. They're large, perfectly straight lines covering 22, 000 square kilometers carved into the earth 3,000 years ago. So they go for kilometers and kilometers and they're perfectly straight lines carved into the earth.
Morgan Huelsman
Why?
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Why?
Morgan Huelsman
What did they know that we didn't know exactly. All right, Is it for something in the future? And they did it in the past to protect us in the future.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
And there's other places in the world that have lines like this. These are the biggest. But why?
Morgan Huelsman
And why perfectly straight lines?
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
What? Why?
Morgan Huelsman
What were they doing again? What do they know that we don't know exactly?
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Everything? A lot, I think. Alrighty. This one's really fun too. It's called the ancient genetic disc. It's a stone carving from thousands and thousands of years ago. All right. It has the cycle of human fertilization and fetal development, which would be invisible without modern microscopes, is a carved stone that shows the fertilizer fertilization of an egg and the process of creating a baby.
Morgan Huelsman
From what time period?
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Thousands of years ago.
Morgan Huelsman
And so they figured out how the life happens in a stone and they carved it.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Yeah. Look up the ancient genetic disc. It's crazy. All right.
Morgan Huelsman
These are wild. My mind just mind f. Yes.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
So another ancient text. All right. It's called the Gigas Codex. It's also known as the Devil's Bible, but we're not getting into that. It's a text estimated if you were to sit down for 30 years and write non stop, no sleeping, all right? That's how much text is in this book. All right. If you sat down for 30 years, you would complete this book. If you never stopped writing. And the calligraphy never alters. It is perfect calligraphy. Same author. Either someone is just the most amazing writer in the entire world or something funky's going on.
Morgan Huelsman
Or it was created out of technology and it was a way to record a historical thing. Has somebody read it, knows what's the contents of it. So it's all in there?
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Yep.
Morgan Huelsman
That's insane.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
And then my last one, this one's fun. It's called the Nampa figurine. Okay. It's a small carved doll and it's smaller than the diameter of a quarter. First off, it's highly detailed for how small that is.
Morgan Huelsman
Yeah.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Okay. But it was found while drilling in a level of soil that was 2 million years old. And it was inside the soil.
Morgan Huelsman
Was it a currency, a potential coin that was a currency?
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
No, it was a small doll. Oh, it was a doll the size of a quarter.
Morgan Huelsman
Oh, the side. That's why.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Yeah. So it's this big. It's highly detailed and it was found inside soil that's 2 million years old. Very deep level drilling going on. And they found a figurine that then
Morgan Huelsman
supports the theory of underground civilizations. Has to because what? How else? Yeah, obviously you can talk about the science and how the world changes over that course of time. Of course. Course that could have been on the surface level at one point or another, but drilling?
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Nah. 9.
Morgan Huelsman
So many hows and whys and understanding and things that we don't get.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
But it's fascinating.
Morgan Huelsman
I love it. Yeah, I loved walking down this road with you. You can now take off your tinfoil hat. We have concluded our entertainment services of conspiracy theories and we still stand by the fact that we do not know any of this to be true. And it's all alleged, but also, who the heck knows?
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
What did you say? Who the frick knows?
Morgan Huelsman
Who the frick even knows? And I will stand by that for the rest of my life.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Oh gosh. Wear those tinfoil hats. Do some research. Have some fun.
Morgan Huelsman
Thanks for doing this with me babe.
Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Thanks baby.
Morgan Huelsman
I know this episode was a little different than our typical topics, but I think one of the coolest things we can do is constantly be asking questions about the who, the how, the why, the what. It's the beauty of getting to be on this planet, in my opinion. I hope you enjoyed it. Whether it was for entertainment purposes or exploring your own research down rabbit holes, make sure you subscribe on YouTube at Webgirl Morgan or Instagram at Take this personally for all the content, full interviews and anything else exciting going on. I'm so happy that you're here. Catch you guys next week. Bye.
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The Bobby Bones Show (Premiere Networks) – May 30, 2026
Hosts: Morgan Huelsman & Brayden (Morgan's fiancé)
Theme: A lighthearted but deeply curious exploration of conspiracy theories, ancient mysteries, portals, alien bases, and alternative histories—celebrating curiosity and the thrill of questioning the “official story.”
Morgan and her fiancé Brayden don their metaphorical tinfoil hats and dive into their mutual love for conspiracy theories, exploring some of their favorite rabbit holes about national parks, lost civilizations, ancient artifacts, aliens, reincarnation, and history’s gaps. Both hosts stress that this episode is for entertainment and encourages living in the “gray area” between fact and belief.
Main Theory: Some believe U.S. national parks hide portals to other dimensions, underground civilizations, or alien bases.
Notable Quote:
“If you stumble upon an arch or a cave or two trees that look a little suspicious... potential portal.” – Morgan (09:00)
“Bigfoot is actually an interdimensional being... time traveler or an alien. And he’s utilizing these, which is why nobody can ever place him.” – Morgan (10:16)
Timestamps for Segments:
Brayden’s Favorite Theories: Inspired by Graham Hancock’s "Ancient Apocalypse" (Netflix), challenging the idea that pre-Ice Age humans were simple hunter-gatherers.
Notable Quotes:
“How did you know that it was okay to do that? ...Did somebody from somewhere else come here and create that?” – Morgan (29:09)
“Why would you go underground? Were you hiding from something?” – Brayden (28:40)
Timestamps:
Theory: Some pop culture creators might subconsciously recall past lives/hidden histories, or media is used by “elites” to seed or muddy truths.
Notable Quote:
“TV shows and movies and forms of entertainment, were also doing that. You know what I mean? It’s the original form of, is this actually possible? Is this true and we don’t know it?” – Morgan (33:57)
The discovery of 6,000+ exoplanets raises the likelihood of life elsewhere.
Brayden references how carbon-based life isn’t the only possible form; there may be life adapted to methane atmospheres or other elements.
Quote:
“Neil deGrasse Tyson says that if we are one in a million, then it is scientifically inaccurate to say that we are alone.” – Brayden (40:12)
Mentions a recent “Miami alien mall” incident that was widely reported and then “scrubbed” from the internet, suggesting our cultural saturation with alien archetypes suppresses curiosity.
Antarctica hinted at as a “forbidden” land with possible secrets.
Brayden’s Rabbit Hole:
Notable Quote:
“These artifacts are supposedly from 6,000 to 3,000 BC. ... the base unit of the ratio of that harmonic ratio matches the formula for the speed of light.” – Brayden (47:40–49:08)
Morgan’s Last Theory:
Notable Quote:
“He conducted over 40 years, 3,000 different cases where children remembered their past lives. ... evidence to support that these kids were not lying.” – Morgan (54:45–54:58)
Brayden closes with a succession of “look it up!” unsolved mysteries:
Both Morgan and Brayden encourage listeners to question, research, and remain open—reminding us, again:
"The beauty of getting to be on this planet... is constantly asking questions about the who, the how, the why, the what.” – Morgan (63:38)