Podcast Summary: The Bobby Bones Show

Episode: TAKE THIS PERSONALLY: The Cost of Loving the Wrong Person: From “Perfect Life” to Unsubscribing

Host: Morgan Huelsman (Premiere Networks)
Guest: Jenny Prem, Author & Speaker
Date: February 22, 2026

Episode Overview

In this emotionally charged episode, Morgan Huelsman continues her series focused on love, relationships, and the often unseen realities behind seemingly perfect partnerships. She welcomes author and speaker Jenny Prem to discuss the harrowing journey of loving the wrong person—specifically her tumultuous relationship with a narcissistic partner she refers to as "Chad." Through candid storytelling, Morgan and Jenny explore the cost of denying red flags, the covert dynamics of narcissistic abuse, the eventual path to healing, and Jenny’s work helping others "unsubscribe" from what no longer serves them.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Jenny’s “Perfect Life” on the Surface (02:11 - 05:14)

• Jenny had a successful 20-year corporate career, financial stability, and a seemingly perfect relationship.
• Describes how she was "living her best life" before meeting "Chad," who aggressively pursued her despite her initial reluctance, largely because she was content with her life and hesitant to get involved with a man who had children.
• “I was living my best life, working my big, fancy corporate job with my big salary, my fancy car, my fancy clothes, and thought that was...everything that defined success for me at the time.” – Jenny (03:23)

2. Relationship Red Flags & Manipulation Tactics (05:14 - 08:39)

• The relationship accelerated unusually fast: meeting his children within weeks, intense declarations like "We should get married" over trivial similarities.
• Retrospective recognition of red flags: rapid escalation, lack of boundaries, love bombing, mirroring.
• Key terms explained:
  • Love bombing: Intense, excessive affection early in the relationship to manipulate attachment.
  • Gaslighting: Manipulating someone into doubting their perception/reality.
• Jenny: "This was before I knew terms like love bombing and future faking and mirroring, which is all of the manipulation that was happening at the time." (06:45)

3. Life Inside a Narcissistic Relationship (08:39 - 14:19)

• Outwardly, everything looked perfect—“white picket fence, the family, the two kids, and the dog”—but inwardly, Jenny was being gaslit, isolated, and her health suffered from severe stress (shingles, hair loss, etc.).
• Friends doubted her reality due to the perfect public image ("there's no way. He would have to be an absolute psychopath for this to be going on." - 10:38).
• Discussion on why it's so hard to leave: psychological manipulation makes reality blurry, repeated cycles before truly leaving (average of seven times).

4. The Breaking Point & Harsh Discoveries (14:19 - 20:53)

• Trusting her intuition, Jenny uncovered the truth when a friend confronted her with evidence of Chad's cheating.
• Chad not only cheated, but was also financially and emotionally abusive, living a double life, performing unauthorized medical procedures, and manipulating multiple women for personal gain.
• “He would perform chiropractic treatments on people and he's not a doctor... He gave a woman a stroke.” – Jenny (16:42)
• Jenny speaks about the necessity (and challenge) of becoming an “evidence-based decision maker” in the face of continued gaslighting.

5. The Fallout: Abuse, Betrayal, and Taking Her Power Back (20:53 - 43:20)

• No physical abuse except for the risk he posed by having unprotected sex with multiple partners (“To me, I do think that's a form of physical abuse putting my physical health at risk.” – Jenny, 25:19).
• The immense emotional toll: humiliation, depression, having to get tested for STIs, and violated personal/physical/emotional boundaries.
• Gaslighting escalates: “Had I known that you had any trust issues in this relationship, I would have never uprooted my children and their stability to move them in here.” – Chad, as recalled by Jenny (35:31).
• Jenny describes taking decisive action—removing him from her home, controlling how he retrieved his belongings, and reclaiming her autonomy.

6. Healing, Growth, and "Unsubscribing" (43:20 - 56:04)

• Both Jenny and Chad’s ex-wife formed a supportive bond, helping each other heal and realize the abuse was not their fault (“Her understanding that he did this to me finally made her realize that she wasn't broken.” – Jenny, 21:37).
• Discusses the process of rediscovering self-worth, setting boundaries, and learning to trust herself again.
• “When you get rid of all the toxicity, those relationships really start to strengthen and deepen as they really start to flourish.” – Jenny (47:25)
• Introduction of her "Unsubscribe" concept: letting go of anything (habits, people, mindsets) that doesn't serve your growth, and focusing on intention over busyness.

7. Building a New Life & Helping Others (50:13 - 56:04)

• Jenny’s journey from corporate leadership into authorship, podcasting, and professional speaking was born out of the need to share her story and support others.
• Her latest book, Unsubscribe, centers on the idea of releasing unhealthy attachments to create space for what matters most.
• “So the idea is to do less, but with intention. When we stop doing all this stuff that doesn't actually matter…we can actually focus on what truly matters.” – Jenny (53:34)
• She maintains close, healthy relationships with Chad’s children and their mother, prioritizing love and healing.

8. Love After Trauma & Finding Peace (56:04 - 61:26)

• Jenny is “not against love” but is extremely intentional about not settling for anything less than reciprocal value.
• She finds fulfillment in personal contentment, supportive friendships, and meaningful experiences.
• Addresses the ongoing journey of healing: “You're always growing. You're always healing.” – Jenny (60:38)
• Jenny’s experience dealing with her father’s death overlapped with her growth from previous trauma, providing her resilience in grief.

9. Dadisms & Final Reflections (62:59 - 68:14)

• Jenny shares treasured wisdom from her late father:
  • “You live life through rose colored glasses.”
  • “You are the architect of your own destiny.”
  • “I'm just doing the best I can with the tools I got.”
• Final advice: Give yourself grace, do the best you can with what you have, and be grateful for how far you’ve come.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “I can't. You look amazing.” – Morgan (03:20)
• “Narcissistic abuse is so covert...it, on average takes people seven times to leave.” – Jenny (08:39)
• “It's almost like micro traumas consistently that you're experiencing from the psychological abuse where you start to question yourself and what reality really is.” – Jenny (08:56)
• “I felt like my home had been violated...my emotional, psychological safety had been violated. I had been financially violated, physically violated.” – Jenny (28:04)
• “If you're with the wrong person, you will become the wrong person.” – Morgan (44:17)
• “I don't believe that everyone is like your dad. Like, I don't believe that everybody treats people like that. I think this is a really one off situation.” – Jenny (64:33)
• “I'm just doing the best I can with the tools I got. So give yourself that grace today, right?” – Jenny's dad, shared by Jenny (67:28)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:11] — Jenny’s background and the “perfect” partnership facade
• [05:14] — Early relationship red flags & manipulation
• [08:39] — Narcissistic abuse, gaslighting, and isolation
• [14:19] — Breaking point and exposure of double life
• [20:53] — Emotional, financial, and physical betrayal
• [33:00] — Confrontation and regaining personal power
• [43:20] — Healing, boundaries, and building a new identity
• [50:13] — The ‘Unsubscribe’ philosophy and Jenny’s new work
• [56:04] — Modern family, love after betrayal, fulfillment
• [62:59] — Remembering her dad, sharing wisdom, and advice

Final Thoughts

This episode serves as a powerful, empathetic testimony to the unseen struggles of abusive relationships and provides hope for healing, growth, and personal evolution. Jenny Prem’s journey from a victim of manipulation to an empowered, purpose-driven advocate offers compassion, wisdom, and practical advice for anyone looking to “unsubscribe” from pain and step into a life of intention and joy.

“Do the best you can with the tools you have today, and that’s all you need.” – Jenny (67:28)