TAKE THIS PERSONALLY: The Truth About Generational Trauma, Religion, and Awakening The Consciousness

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Podcast Summary: "TAKE THIS PERSONALLY: The Truth About Generational Trauma, Religion, and Awakening The Consciousness"

The Bobby Bones Show – March 15, 2026
Guest: Danny Morell
Host: Morgan Hueman

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the journey of personal transformation, generational trauma, religion, and the process of awakening consciousness. Host Morgan Hueman speaks with author and speaker Danny Morell about his new book, Awaken Your Highest Self, and together they navigate sensitive and often taboo topics like family wounds, the impact of early childhood experiences, redefining masculinity and femininity, and breaking free from limiting societal and religious structures.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Personal Transformation and Shedding Old Selves

• Danny’s Evolution: Danny discusses moving from his earlier “relentless” business persona to embracing healing, peace, and authenticity.

  • “That guy that wrote that first book, he doesn’t exist anymore.” [03:14]
  • "If you are relentless, it shows that you are actually wounded." [04:03]

• Catalyst for Change: The combination of his mother’s passing and a divorce triggered by an affair forced Danny to confront and awaken to his true self.

  • “All of it happened at once… I was pushing down the parts of myself that were not happy… all of that came from a need within myself to get you to like me, because I didn't like me.” [04:37]
  • “All of these questions started asking that I think most of us humans are afraid to. And when I asked them and had the courage to face the answers and the truth, that's when my life changed forever.” [05:37]

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2. Generational and Childhood Trauma

• Masculine & Feminine Energy: Danny explains how our energy is formed by our parents' energies and our earliest experiences.

  • “That masculine and feminine energy is literally created through the masculine and feminine inside of our mother and our father… it’s all based off of what you received or didn’t receive from your mom and dad.” [06:19]
  • “Our parents didn’t know how to do any of that.” [07:17]

• Collective Awakening: Society is experiencing an unprecedented collective awakening, triggered in part by global events and technological disruption.

  • “There’s a reason for that, on an energetic level, the collective consciousness is starting to awaken… because whether we realize it or not, there’s this thing called AI... And that’s why we’re all starting to have these conversations.” [07:21]

• Cycles and Healing: Danny shares that childhood imprints (even those we don’t consciously remember) set the tone for our adulthood, relationships, and patterns.

  • “We’re just operating, all of us, from our deepest woundings until we heal them.” [22:54]

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3. Fear vs. Love & The Movement from Separation to Oneness

• Energy Dichotomy: Danny outlines two energies—fear and love—underpinning all human experience.

  • “We can either live in the energy of fear or love. Now, when you look at the energy of fear, right underneath fear is separation… when you are in love, right underneath love, you’re in oneness.” [08:45]

• Awakening Process:

  • "When you are unconscious, you're literally unaware… when you awaken and become conscious, you go 'holy shit, wait a minute. Life isn't happening to me. Life has been happening for me.'" [10:17]
  • “When we’re in separation, we’re also in victim energy… When we’re in oneness, we’re in creator energy.” [10:49]

• Notable Quote:

  • “Fear controls and love allows.” [11:45, 29:22]

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4. Boundaries, Family, and Social Trends

• Nuance in Cutting Ties: The surge in people setting boundaries or cutting off family members is a complex issue.

  • “What I think you see happening is people are choosing to just cut people off completely… they're not allowing themselves the space to integrate the pain and heal it together. And that’s where the magic actually is.” [14:04]
  • “Real love cannot breathe in secrecy. It can only breathe and cultivate in truth.” [16:50]

• Co-creation of Relationship Wounds: Even painful situations (like affairs) are co-created, not just one-sided.

  • “Affairs are co-created… there's a lot of truths that you were afraid to speak out. And the truth is that real love cannot breathe in secrecy.” [16:50]

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5. Healing Ancestral and Early Wounds

• Example of Childhood Trauma: Danny shares a client’s breakthrough—tracing her adult relationship patterns back to a single phrase from her father at age 4-5.

  • “If you jump in there or you fall in, I’m not coming to save you… That was the imprint… I am not valuable enough or worthy enough to be saved or protected.” [24:33-25:12]
  • “Whether we realize it or not, that reaction gets literally imprinted into our nervous system.” [25:39]

• Ancestral Pain:

  • “This pain is literally imprinted in us and in all of our ancestry until we heal it. And that’s what’s actually happening right now. We are collectively healing these wounds… that isn't even ours.” [27:11]

• On “Woo-woo”:

  • “Isn’t that their way of trying to protect themselves?” (When people dismiss ancestral healing as mystical.) [28:33]

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6. Finding Peace, Integration, and Authenticity

• What We’re Really Seeking: Achievement, followers, and material goals are ultimately quests for peace.

  • “What we are looking for… is peace. We just have not been shown how to access peace. Real peace.” [29:34]
  • “Real peace is not needing to do a thing. Real peace is not needing to achieve anything.” [29:59]

• On Change and Potential:

  • “Our deepest fear is actually how powerful we actually are.” [33:40]

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7. Religion, Spirituality, and Inner Divinity

• Separation vs. Oneness in Religion:

  • “Religion causes us to believe that God is like out there somewhere… what you end up discovering is you are actually one. It was actually Jesus’s message… I and the Father are one.” [37:09]
  • “Church actually blocks you from embodying… keeps you stuck in belief… the enemy you’ve been calling the enemy is just your shadow.” [40:16]

• Embodiment Over Knowledge:

  • "God... and love is actually not about knowledge. It's about embodiment. That's what you just said." [40:14]

• Separation in Religion:

  • “If I believe that my way is the only way, then I am what I am—right, and you are wrong. And if I am right and you are wrong, then we are in oneness or in separation? Separation." [42:31]
  • “And if we’re in separation, are we in love or fear? Fear. And if we are in fear, are we in victim energy or creator energy? Victim energy.” [42:53]

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8. Tools for the Journey: Plant Medicine, Human Design, and Self-Understanding

• Plant medicine and Breathwork:

  • "Plant medicine is a very important tool for us human beings… it takes you deep within yourself so you can bring up those parts… you’ve been shoving down." [31:30]
  • Each book chapter includes breathwork exercises for self-exploration. [32:28]

• Human Design:

  • "Go get your birth date, your birth time, and your birth location and type it in… There are certain different human design types. There’s generators, projectors, manifesting generators, and reflectors." [44:45]

• On Co-creation in Conversations:

  • “What you're feeling… is that curiosity that was in you gave me the space to say what needed to be said… we're co-creating this moment.” [45:51]

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9. Breaking Old Narratives: Social Media and Collective Truth

• On Breaking Narratives:
  • “All narratives are literally being destroyed… everything is out in the open because that's how we actually transcend darkness." [47:47]
  • "The more that it comes up into the light, the more that all human secrets… are just going to dissolve. And the more that they dissolve, the more that fear dissolves.” [48:25]
  • “And the more that fear dissolves, the more liberated we actually are, and love finally does win.” [48:28]

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10. Final Advice, Forgiveness, and Healing Family Wounds

• Danny’s Closing Wisdom:

  • “Absolutely everything in your life that has happened prior to today, all of it has happened for you. And the thing that keeps you from seeing that is the resistance that you have for it.” [49:10]
  • "The most important thing that you can heal is the relationship that you have with your mother and father. Because any negative energy that you have with your mother... is negative energy that you have with yourself... and your heart... with your father, it's negative energy that you have with your masculine and other people." [49:21]

• On the Cycle of Pain:

  • "The only pain that your mother and father could have ever passed down to you is pain that they received as little boys and girls from their mother and father." [51:01]

• Path to Forgiveness:

  • “You could literally just tell God, say, I'm ready to forgive my mother. I'm ready to forgive my father. I don't know how to do that… bring me the people… the circumstances that would allow me to forgive them.” [51:36]
  • "The pain that I harbor towards them is actually pain that I'm harboring towards myself." [51:51]

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Notable Quotes

• "If you are relentless, it shows that you are actually wounded."
  — Danny Morell [04:03]

• "Fear controls and love allows."
  — Danny Morell [11:45, 29:22]

• "Our deepest fear is actually how powerful we actually are."
  — Danny Morell [33:40]

• "Church actually blocks you from embodying... it keeps you stuck in belief... the enemy you've been calling the enemy is just your shadow."
  — Danny Morell [40:16]

• "Absolutely everything in your life that has happened prior to today, all of it has happened for you."
  — Danny Morell [49:10]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 02:22 – Introduction to Danny Morell and his new book
• 03:14 – Transformation from “business Danny” to a new self
• 04:19 – Personal triggers: mother’s death and divorce as awakening
• 06:19–08:05 – Childhood, masculine/feminine energy, and parental influence
• 08:45–11:32 – Fear vs. love, separation, and oneness
• 13:32–16:50 – Nuance in cutting off family and healing through connection
• 22:33–26:53 – Imprinting of trauma in early childhood
• 27:54–29:34 – Ancestral trauma and collective healing
• 30:20–33:47 – Peace as the true aim of life, fear of potential
• 36:00–43:27 – Religion, separation, and embodiment of love
• 44:44–47:19 – Human design as a tool for self-understanding and relational insight
• 47:47–48:28 – Breaking down societal narratives and walking into authenticity
• 49:09–52:26 – Steps to healing parental wounds and forgiveness

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Tone and Atmosphere

The conversation is deep, candid, and compassionate, characterized by honesty, vulnerability, and mutual curiosity. Both guest and host maintain a tone of non-judgment, promoting openness, healing, and genuine inquiry over rigid beliefs or blame.

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Resources Mentioned

• Book: Awaken Your Highest Self by Danny Morell (awakenbook.com)
• Danny’s Instagram: @dannymorell
• Human Design Tool: podcast.dannymorell.com/human design

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This summary encapsulates the heart of a powerful dialogue between Morgan Hueman and Danny Morell on challenging societal conditioning, awakening to deeper spiritual truths, and undertaking the hard but liberating work of healing one's own wounds—so that we, in turn, can break cycles for future generations.

Transcript

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[A]

Take this personal with Morgan Human as we continue to look inwards at our own lives and have some personal reflection in this series. This episode is going to continue us on that journey and I could not be more excited to share this episode with you guys. His name is Danny Morell and we were walking on the same path during this interview. I think it's something really special. Let's do this. Excited to be joined by Danny Morrell. Danny, you have insane Amounts of things happening on social media because you've blown up there. For all your words of wisdom and the incredible stories that you share. Thanks for coming on the podcast.

[B]

Thanks for having me.

[A]

You have a new book that's out by the time this podcast is out in the world. Awaken your highest self.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's not your first one. You're an author. You're a speaker. You know the drill.

[B]

Yeah. In many ways, it does feel like my first one, because my first one was, like, from my old life. In the book, I talk about the story of business, Danny, and this is very much coming from a completely different version of me. Like that guy that wrote that first book, he doesn't exist anymore.

[A]

So is it weird for you when you look at that book that you wrote and you're in this different place of your life now? Does it feel weird that it's almost two completely different people?

[B]

It's so much of two completely different people that I literally tell people, please don't read that book. Really? Yeah. I was in my ego. I was in drive. And I just. To share this point, the name of my event used to be Relentless. Think of the energy of that name. And that was very much the sales, the business, the driving. And then once I healed my heart, I realized there's nothing to really be relentless about in life.

[A]

Interesting.

[B]

As a matter of fact, if you are relentless, it shows that you are actually wounded.

[A]

Okay, so break down for me when the transition happened. Right. When you finally were like, okay, I'm not actually relentless. I'm this other person. What happened in your life?

[B]

So it was twofold, and it all happened right about the same time as it does for us when we're ready to awaken. It was the combination of my mom's passing and my divorce, which was triggered by an affair. So I know that's a lot. We can get into all of it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, all of it happened at once. Because, to be honest, I wasn't picking up on the signs. I was, like, bypassing myself. I was pushing down the parts of myself that were not happy, that were afraid to speak his truth and be in his essence and in his masculine. Quite frankly, I was really avoiding the parts of myself that had some really deep pain that no one had ever told me to process or to work through. I was just, like, the perfect good boy that did everything the right way. And the truth is that all of that came from a need within myself to get you to like me, because I didn't like me. And when my mom passed away. It's like, literally, it was when she transitioned, it was as if she went to the other side and was like, oh, my God, I didn't know how to love him back then, but I'm going to love him from here. And love sometimes puts you through some pretty tough circumstances because it loves you enough to have you go through them. And so that's what started happening. I started asking questions, like I mentioned in the book, are you happy? And I already knew the answer, and the answer was no. I was just avoiding asking myself the question for most of my life. Do you love what you do? The answer was no. Are you in love in your marriage? The answer was no. All of a sudden, all of these questions started asking that. I think most of us humans are, like, afraid to. And when I asked them and had the courage to face the answers and the truth, that's when my life changed forever.

[A]

So when you look back at that time, do you feel like a lot of what impacted you is just how you were raised, the things that you were taught, the values that were instilled in you?

[B]

Yeah, I think it's deeper than that. I talk a lot about this in the book. We all have masculine and feminine energy. Yeah. And that masculine and feminine energy is literally created through the masculine and feminine energy inside of our mother and our father. Because if you think about it, like, when you're a child, you are defenseless. You can't speak, you can't run. You. You're just there laying on your back. And so when you look up and you open your eyes, you got these two people, which some of us have one or some of us have none. And so that's when everything starts, is it's all. All based off of what you received or didn't receive from your mom and dad. Literally, the way that they looked at you, the way that they showed their love with you, their capacity to allow you to hold your feelings, the space that you had to be your authentic self. And as I'm saying that, I think we can both agree our parents didn't know how to do any of that.

[A]

We weren't even having these conversations. Yeah, exactly.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Ten years ago, before now.

[B]

And there's a reason for that, is on an energetic level, the collective consciousness is starting to awaken. Hmm. And it's starting to awaken because whether we realize it or not, there's this thing called AI that's starting to show up, that it's literally trying to replace us. And I'm not trying to be a Conspiracy theorist. I'm just telling you, like, just look around. Look. You didn't have driverless taxis or you didn't have robots before. And when we're unconscious, we're like, wow, that's cool. No, no, no, no, no. This is very scary. And that's why we're all starting to have these conversations, because they. The more that we talk about it, the more aware we become, the more that we can heal, and the more that we can start coming from a place of authenticity versus fear.

[A]

And you mentioned that, because it's interesting, when you say conscious awakening, that's really happening right now. Collective one. And I was going to ask you about this from your perspective because we are seeing such a huge shift happening in society right now where we are just learning a lot of things that really had an impact of how we believed and see. Saw the world.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And all of that's coming crashing down.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Everything that we believed, everything we thought, all the things that were so just deeply ingrained into us, everything. And now everybody just feels like, literally,

[B]

what the f. Yeah, what do I do?

[A]

What happens now? What's your perspective on that? When we talk about that?

[B]

I think there's two parts to the world and there's two energies that we can live in as human. First, I'll start with parts of the world on an energetic basis. This is not something you think. This is not something you consciously do. This is energy. Everything is energy. Everything that you see, everything that you experience, every one that you see and experience. And as such, we can either live in the energy of fear or love. Okay. Now, when you look at the energy of fear, right underneath fear is separation. And this is really deep. But when we live in separation, then we are separate from each other by race, economic class, religious beliefs, all of these things that society puts in between us. And as a result, we're separate from God. And as a result, we are separate from ourselves. In other words, when we are in separation energy, it's me, like, against life. And when you are in love, right underneath love, you're in oneness, where instead of it being like me and you, if we go deep, if I have the time, I could probably guarantee you that there's parts of your life story that are very similar to parts of my life story. And we could probably cry together, and we could probably help each other heal. And it's a very beautiful thing. But, like, out on the street, I don't know, you might judge me and I might judge you. You know what I'm saying? And this is the difference between, like, consciousness and unconsciousness, right? Yeah. When you are unconscious, you're literally unaware. You are unaware of this beautiful, spiritual and energetic side of life because you've been following the program for so long like I did. And then when you awaken and become conscious, you go, holy shit, wait a minute. Life isn't happening to me. Like, life has been happening for me. Like that guy that I called a narcissist that I hate. Holy shit. He was actually my life's greatest teacher. Oh, my God. And if he was my life's greatest teacher, then instead of hating him, then maybe I can love him. I can appreciate him. See what I'm saying? That's the difference, is when we're in separation, we're also in victim energy. Like, he did it to me. When we're in oneness, we're in creator energy. I called him in.

[A]

So do you feel like that's what you're seeing, too, is a lot of people are either awakening or coming into this crossroads of. I either am gonna stay in this separation or I am going to choose to make the jump, to make the uncomfortable choice.

[B]

This is even more beautiful. Let's take it a step further. Because think of choosing as, like, masculine. It's so beautiful that you said that word. Because the other thing is that when we live in fear and separation, we live in the mind, which is the masculine. And the mind is constantly trying to protect us. Constant control. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Because fear controls and love allows. The feminine is the heart. Yeah. And the thing that we are the most afraid of is returning to our heart. Why? Because if you go back to what I said earlier, when we were little boys and little girls, our mother and father, the people who should have loved us, should have protected us, should have put us first. Should have. Right? They didn't. They couldn't. It's a perfect part of life. They couldn't meet our heart's needs. And that made us say, I'm not going down there no more. I'm going to stay up here. And there's really severe examples of that, by the way. But ultimately, what happens is you return to oneness and you return to love by returning to your heart, by returning to your feminine. This is man or woman, by the way. By returning to the one place that maybe we unconsciously told ourselves that we never would. And the reason why I said this is not a choice. This is literally about an allowance. It's always there for us. It's just. Will we allow ourselves to remember we Will we allow ourselves to start seeing the patterns in life that continue happening? You keep attracting the same kind of partner. You. You keep attracting the same client. You keep attracting the same money. You make it, and then it finds a little ceiling, and then. And it falls. And all of it is just a reflection of what's happening inside of here.

[A]

Yeah, very much so. And you mentioned this conversation of, obviously our parents didn't have this, so it was hard for us to even have this. And you were talking about losing your mom. I'm curious, because a huge thing that's happening on the Internet right now, too, is this disconnection from our families. Right. We very much are. People are learning their boundaries. They're learning the things that they went through, the things that they had experienced, and then disconnecting. What's your take seeing this? I don't want to call it a trend because it's not. There's a level of it where it's, we know better, we do better.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But there's also just a lot of conversation happening around that. And family's important, but there's also boundaries that are important.

[B]

There are. There's a balance in this. I think that what you're seeing happening on the Internet with families and people leaving their families is terrible because we are made to be in family. We're made to be in community. And there's some families that have done some terrible things. So every situation is a little bit different. I've seen some people, and I've actually worked with people that I have actually guided them because of and because of trauma and because of control and manipulation, where it's actually time to. To create a little space for a season. What I think you see happening is people are choosing to just cut people off completely. And as a result, they're not allowing themselves the space to integrate the pain and heal it together. And that's where the magic actually is. And I think that we're missing out on a big piece of what could be providing healing when we say no to our family. Yeah.

[A]

It very much is what's happening. You're just seeing people in general, too, cutting off. Just a quick something happens. Sometimes it goes a lot deeper than that. Obviously, social media only tells one side of the story.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But you see this just cut off, and it's just very blatant, very blunt. There's no nuance to it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And when it comes to relationships, I am on the side of belief that there's a lot more nuance to that story, 100%. And teaching people just to cut cold turkey is not quite helping us.

[B]

Really bad, really bad this brings up. I don't know why I brought it up but like when I got divorced, part of what happened obviously because I had an affair. My ex wife had a lot of pain. And I acknowledge that and I completely understand that. The issue is that pain got transferred into my kids in an unhealthy way. I don't blame anybody. It is what it is. And so when I saw that happen, my kids decided for quite a few years to not spend the night at my house and to not be around me. And that broke my heart. But I understood it and I allowed it. And all I did was I stayed here and. And worked on myself and worked on my heart and worked on the parts of myself that quite honestly was afraid. Afraid to speak his truth in his marriage. Afraid to be himself in his marriage. Afraid. I was a people pleaser and that people pleasing. What it did is after 13 years of doing that, I found an outlet. You understand what I'm saying? Yeah. That's what. There's a nuance in everything, even in affairs. And people hate it when I say this, but affairs are co created. It's not one day your partner just all of a sudden decides I'm gonna go sleep with somebody else. There's a lot of things that have been unsaid. There's a lot of things that have been unallowed. There's a lot of parts of both of you that didn't show up a hundred percent for each other. There's a lot of truths that you were afraid to speak out. And the truth is that real love cannot breathe in secrecy. It can only breathe and cultivate in truth. And we're afraid to speak our truth. And I can speak for the men. The man's number one priority in an awakened relationship is to connect to and live from his truth and his essence. No matter how she reacts to that truth in that essence. Because the only way that the woman can ever actually feel safe in a man's presence is if he is living in his truth.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I have can see from experience of the different partners that I've had in my life. Makes sense very much. You understand the safety that you feel with someone who is genuinely the best version of themselves.

[B]

Can I say, or just themselves.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Maybe not even the best, but you know what you're dealing with. Yes. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And that. Yeah.

[A]

And I say best version because it truly feels like how could they get any better Such a great human being. Yeah, but I've also been with people where I'm like, man, this is rough for both of us. And you're not happy, I'm not happy. What are we doing? Yeah, but you can't fix them. Everybody has to make the choice to do that for themselves. And I do applaud you for speaking on something from your perspective, because an affair is difficult for all parties involved 100%, and owning the role that you play in it is difficult. Health insurance should make getting care easier, but sometimes it can feel like the opposite. That's why UnitedHealthcare is committed to putting care at the heart of health insurance, with empathy, transparency, and real human connection. I mean, doesn't care feel different when it's personal, when. When you can tell that the person on the other end of the phone, the screen, and the Service genuinely cares? UnitedHealthcare is working to make that happen every day. They're also helping people make healthcare decisions with confidence, giving them the information that they need to better understand their benefits, costs and claims. Because UnitedHealthcare knows when you understand that stuff, you can better get the care you and your family need. UnitedHealthcare is also working to make care more accessible. They're doing it by helping connect people with more top doctors, clinics, specialists and such right in their own communities. It makes getting care easier and feels way more personal. You know, care can show up in a lot of ways and everyone at UnitedHealthcare is committed to bringing it every day. Learn more about how UnitedHealthcare is committed to [e-mail] Care Thy Ticket Lady Jennifer of Coolidge.

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[B]

No. It's really a commitment to authenticity. It's the only way I know how to live my life. Like you, I'm an open book. And the reason why I'm an open book is because I've got nothing to hide. And I would rather be that way than to hide anything. Because if I'm hiding something, it means that I'm actually in shame of it. It means that I feel guilty of it, which means that I haven't processed it, which means that I haven't healed from it, which means that I literally can't. The work that I am doing today.

[A]

Yeah, and you couldn't speak on it. You couldn't go in this because you haven't owned that part of who you are.

[B]

That's right. And I can trace my affair down literally to the first two weeks of my life. And this is what the book is going to help you do. The book is going to help you, like, access, like, where did this come from? Where did this trauma, this darkness, this confusion, this anxiety. Where did it come from? All you have to do is allow, and the book will take you there. The first two weeks of my life, my mom had a C section, so she wasn't there. So remember what I said. When you're born, you're defenseless, and you're just looking up and you're just looking especially for that mother. The mother literally is teaching you how to be with yourself. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So what I correlated life was in those first two weeks of life, is not feeling wanted, not feeling safe, not feeling nurtured. So then I was my entire, like, young adult life as a man looking for a wife. Because I thought that was the answer.

[A]

I thought you wanted to feel love. You wanted to feel all the things

[B]

that you hadn't felt not consciously, by the way. This is like the deepest thing we have to understand. We're just operating, all of us, from like our deepest woundings until we heal them.

[A]

And isn't that just so wild to think about, that the deepest wound come from a part where we really don't even remember?

[B]

Oh, no.

[A]

You get older and you're like, dang, I can't remember. Seven years beyond, Right? You're one through seven. I have no idea what happened. Couldn't tell you. And it's crazy that so much of an impact of our life is from those moments. We can't even get to them.

[B]

Well, we can. Okay? This is what I dedicate my life to.

[A]

This is what we're going for.

[B]

I'll give you two examples. So a woman I was working with never felt safe around men. If you don't feel safe around men, guess what? You'll attract men to validate that story. Men to not feel safe around.

[A]

Yeah. Which is only going to make you feel less safe. You're just perpetuating the cycle.

[B]

Because now you can say, see, I told you I wasn't supposed to feel safe with him. It validates the story. So she came to me. She came to the event. Awaken your high self is an actual three day event. She came to the event. It blew her heart wide open. She started working with me for a year to really uncover this. And we use tools like plant medicine, breath, work, meditation, all of it to help you uncover what is literally uncoverable. It's that deep. It was her third awakening. She pulls me aside, she's crying. She goes, you'll never guess what happened. I said what she said, I was taken back to when I was a little girl. Summertime, by the pool. And I was walking, like just by the edge of the pool, innocently. And I looked in the water, and my dad looked in the water, looked at me and said, if you jump in there or you fall in, I'm not coming to save you.

[A]

It was that moment.

[B]

That was the imprint. That was the imprint that showed her, like, I am not literally valuable enough or worthy enough to be saved or protected by the one man that is supposed to save and protect.

[A]

So tell me why something like that is such a catalyst in our lives. Tell me why something that feels to the outside world innocent. Right? You're going to hear people talk about this of where they're like, I've said stuff like that, that before, and it didn't mean anything. Right. You know, that's the argument, right? But tell me why Because I believe it. Words matter.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Why is that such a catalyst in our life? Why are those moments such catalysts?

[B]

Because you feel. Because you feel them, you have a reaction to them. And whether we realize it or not, that reaction gets literally imprinted into our nervous system. Because our mind, our masculine, is designed to protect us.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

The masculine think about a man and a woman. The masculine is literally designed to protect the woman. That's his duty.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Yeah. And what is the woman inside of you? The woman is the heart. And what is the masculine? Your mind. So your own mind, it's as within. So without your own mind is consciously and unconsciously just trying to keep you safe.

[A]

Always protecting you.

[B]

Always protecting you.

[A]

That's why it's always the barrier to everything. Why your mind is always the first thing.

[B]

That's right. Because it's just right. No, no, no. You're not gonna hurt me. So with the mind, in this case, a little girl at age I think she was 4 or 5. Like, think about how young she was learned. The man will not jump in to save you and protect you, even if your life dependent on it. Then what did that mind decide to do? Okay, well, from this day forward, protection mode.

[A]

To save her.

[B]

That's right. That's right. And it actually goes so deep as to protect you from men, because men showed you that they weren't going to be there for you. The way the story ends up, however, and this is the beauty of the work that we do, is she actually saw herself falling into the pool and her father coming in and holding her and saying, of course I would have jumped in, and of course I would have saved you. And after she saw that, she saw how the words that he said. This is the deepest thing that you have to understand. The words that he said to her were actually imprinted in him. And they. That pain is literally imprinted in us and in all of our ancestry until we heal it. And that's what's actually happening right now. We are collectively healing these wounds and this energy that isn't even ours. Yeah.

[A]

There's a lot of talk about ancestral healing and how we are carrying the trauma, the wounds, the things that our ancestors went through.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

And the experiences. And if you think about it, and you go all the way back, we're just now starting to have the tools and the resources to understand our traumas, understand different levels of this. So can you imagine the work that's being done to try and heal generations of that?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

And it is. It's Very much a conversation of understanding. And it's interesting to me when people will say, that's like, woo, woo. There's no way. And I'm like, is there, Is that really no way when you really think about it?

[B]

But again, isn't that their way of trying to protect themselves?

[A]

Yeah. And does that make you then see the world too? When you have interactions with people that are questionable and people that just want to put up blocks and because change is hard and all the things, doesn't that make you then just want to be like, I really want to help you. I really hope you want to see this other side?

[B]

No.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And I'll tell you why. Because I remember when that was me. And that's where you can really connect to the understanding that all of life is perfect and everyone is on their own journey. Fear controls, love allows. The control in me is like, I really want to help you. And the love in me goes, when it's your time and allowing, pick up the book, carry.

[A]

You'll start the work to find the journey.

[B]

And it's all okay. Yeah.

[A]

There has to be a piece with that as well.

[B]

Beautiful.

[A]

When you reach that point, that's it.

[B]

And that is ultimately what we're all looking for.

[A]

Peace. Oh, my gosh.

[B]

Yes, that's it. What we are looking for in the business goal, in the follower goal, in the relationship goal, in the how do I look in my body goal. What we're actually looking for is peace. We have just not been shown how to access peace. Real peace. We think peace is through achievement. We think peace is in doing. We think peace is in being relentless and going after what we want in life. But real peace is actually the opposite. Real peace is not needing to do a thing. Real peace is not needing to achieve anything. Real peace is understanding that there's nowhere to go. There's nothing to relentless about. Because you've always been exactly where you need to be since the moment born.

[A]

Let me ask you, when you did the crossover, you talked about the very beginning of this, where you were this person and now you're a different person.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Does it feel like. Because I feel like when you're the person on the front end of your life, the world feels like a weight on your shoulders. Everything feels heavy. Your chest feels heavy, you tense up, your jaw is always tight. The second part of your life is the weight gone, the jaw tensing. Gone is the peace that you feel. A whole body experience.

[B]

I think there's a third part.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And that's the work that you get to do in between those of those. Both of those new realities. And what came to me to share with you was I went through a really deep process where I was afraid of death. That's how deep this can get. Because fear is fear. Yeah. Yeah. And I just happened to, like, want to face all of my fears. And so when I did, that's what happened. I spent a year where I barely slept. I think I slept three nights. And because of that fear, afraid to go to sleep.

[A]

Fear of not waking up.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Fear of just what could come.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

So how do you.

[B]

How much I was in control by going through it and facing it. And that's where I say a lot of people don't like it when I say this, but that's where I say. And all I can offer is the thousands of people that I work with. This has changed. My plant medicine is a very important tool for us human beings to. To. To participate. Whether it's ayahuasca or mushroom, cannabis used in a ceremonial way. It's the thing that takes you deep within yourself so that you can bring up those parts of yourself. Been like shoving down. And I actually built book that way to. To take you into those depths of yourself. And that's why I decided to include my breath work. So you'll see, you'll get in the chapters and you'll go to the link of the breath work and be able to download it and lay down and listen. And I'll lead you through it. Get ready. You're going to have a beautiful experience.

[A]

And it's like, this is really for people who are ready to take that next step is what I'm hearing. Like they're in that phase of their life where they're ready for this change. They're ready to take whatever step is necessary to become the highest self.

[B]

Yeah. You're starting to notice that there's parts of your life that you have been unhappy with for quite a few years now. And you're starting to ask yourself, like, why is life this way? And you want answers, and no one seems to be giving you answers. And the book won't give you the answers. The book will guide you to find the answers within yourself. I think that's what's so beautiful about it.

[A]

And I don't know if other people have felt this way when they've started to do work with you. So I'm curious because I often say it because change is hard. Change is a really hard experience. We get used to comfortability. There's so many securities in not changing. But I think for me, and I'd probably speak for a lot of people, there's a scariness to knowing that your potential is so much higher, and it's almost like you're afraid of that.

[B]

It's our deepest fear.

[A]

Okay, so that's normal. I'm not strange in having that feeling 100% normal.

[B]

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[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And that's what actually led me to my most beautiful awakening, is that what we don't realize is that religion causes us to believe that God is like out there somewhere. And what you end up discovering. Think about separation. When you end up discovering is you are actually one. It was actually Jesus's message. It's actually what got him killed. It wasn't that he came like for our sins or any of that, because that's a whole nother story, but it was that he actually was speaking. I and the Father are one. And to all of the religious zealots then, like, that completely contradicted everything that then. And they told the people. And that's what got him killed. Jesus literally was the physical embodiment of what is possible for human life. It's.

[A]

I love that you brought this up because I did want to touch on this with you. I really was so intrigued watching your videos talking about religion and spirituality because you're one of the first people that I see that's not afraid to touch on this topic because it's something that people are afraid to talk about.

[B]

Oh, no, I've been very afraid.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And you Part of my journey.

[A]

But now here you are today, and you're in this space.

[B]

Yes, because think about it. Think about it. It's. Remember what I said? Like, true masculine is about embodying your own truth. So it's the truth I discovered. What was going on with the fear was I was attached to your reaction to the truth that I discover, and I was attached to that. And I'm no longer attached to them. And for a while, I was angry about it because I feel like, oh, my God, they've been lying to us. So it was that energy. And even that energy is gone. I just want to share your experience. My experience. And then if you want to test it, go experience it yourself. What I can guarantee you, if you go deep enough, you will find the exact thing that I found and the

[A]

reason why it drew me so much to so much of your work. And you talking about it. It's funny, because you were afraid of the responses, but what your mind was protecting you from seeing was all the people you could connect with of speaking to it. Right, Right. That's what happens. But I loved it because church has always been incredibly difficult for me. I've had really bad experiences in churches, just horrible. We could be here all day talking about those moments, but I decided very early on through those experiences that I just. Church wasn't for me. But what was for me was just living a life full of love. I wanted to take care of people. I wanted to be the person that somebody could come up to and feel comfortable talking to. I wanted to take care of my neighbors. I wanted to show up for my community. I wanted to be there for strangers. I wanted to live in love. That's what I wanted.

[B]

That's it.

[A]

You are the first person I've really seen just have that conversation about. It's not about what you think it's about. It's really about this inner piece of you that just should be wanting to give love instead of demanding. Everybody sees things a certain way.

[B]

Okay, you know what you're saying right now? Let me show it to you.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Watch this. So if I do this, let's see what comes up for you. If I'm doing this, what am I doing? What part of me am I feeding right now?

[A]

Your mind.

[B]

Which means that I am receiving knowledge. Yeah, right. You know what you just said? What you just said is God is actually. And life and love is actually not about knowledge. It's about embodiment. That's what you just said. And that's what we have. A hard Time finding in church people that embody, because church actually blocks you from embodying. The only way that you can embody is to go into, is to discover, is to feel, is to let go of, is to surrender. It's to have the human experience. It's to face your shadows, is to face the darkest parts of yourself. Church actually blocks you from doing any of that because it keeps you stuck in belief. It keeps you stuck in waiting for a savior that is not coming. And it keeps you thinking that there's an enemy that doesn't exist. The enemy you've been calling the enemy is just your shadow. So you are actually detaching yourself from both of the parts of yourself that if you were to bring them together, you can integrate them and become the living embodiment of love.

[A]

Wow. I just felt like I went to a serpent and I know we're not in a church. That's exactly what I needed.

[B]

What does that feel like?

[A]

I loved hearing somebody speak to the things that are happening in my head that I can't get anywhere else.

[B]

Yeah. You know what I mean?

[A]

And that's why I loved you talking about it was because it's so hard to find people who are one, willing and two to just have that open conversation and just have the conversation that looks a little different.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It doesn't mean it's wrong. It doesn't mean anything's wrong or right. Like, I really don't identify with wrongs and right. It's very much of how does it make you feel and what is your way of perceiving it and the openness that comes with it.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

And so listening to you say that is like, somebody sees the way that I see. And that was really cool.

[B]

And when you talk about, like, wrong or right, wrong or right is the ego's way of protecting its story.

[A]

Putting you into these categories of, like, what you're doing here is wrong and what you're doing here is right.

[B]

That's right. So watch this. This is what religion does, by the way. If I believe that my way is the only way, then I am what I am. Right and you are wrong. And if I am right and you are wrong, then we are in oneness or in separation.

[A]

Separation.

[B]

And if we're in separation, are we in love or fear?

[A]

Fear.

[B]

And if we are in fear, are we in victim energy or creator energy?

[A]

Victim energy.

[B]

And if we're in victim energy, can we ever actually create the human embodiment and life that we actually are capable of creating? No. Absolutely.

[A]

Isn't that wild?

[B]

I feel like you're

[A]

just like all in the same way and I really appreciate it. It's just. It's so cool to me, you know, it lands though. Yeah.

[B]

Because it's universal truth. It's not. And the way that universal truth is you can go into it and test it. Test it. Go experience it for yourself. This is why I say, like, you know, you come to my three day event. I literally start off every event saying, you're not here for me. Because if you're here for me, you're right back in the church. You're right back listening to the preacher. You're right by believing and what? No, no, no, no. And I said you're not here for knowledge. You are here to literally get naked with yourself so that you can experience and feel, feel and challenge and test everything so that you can become the teacher, the leader, the guide, the spiritual version of yourself that has been trying to come online literally since you were born. And that only happens when you actually stop believing and you start becoming.

[A]

I know this isn't a church, but I just. You're really good at preaching and it's really good and not on a. Preaching is probably the wrong word.

[B]

So let's talk about that.

[A]

Yeah. Because you made me feel certain things and like, just captivated, just understood, just wanting to attract the energy that you have, per se.

[B]

Okay. It's really interesting. So have you done your human design yet?

[A]

No.

[B]

Okay, you need to. Okay, so go. Nowadays you can just do it for free on any chat, GBT or anything like that. Go get your birth date, your birth time and your birth location and type it in and say you're a human design expert. Tell me my human design and if people. And if you want remind me and I'll get it for you for free, go to podcast.dannymorel.com backslash human design and you can get. It's a full customized story of you, your life. There are certain different human design types. There's generators, there's projectors, there's manifesting generators, and there's reflectors. And all of this is based off of your time and date of birth. And all of this. Reflectors are less than 1% of the human population. I'm a reflector. So what that means and what you're feeling right now, and by the way, what I am feeling right now is that curiosity that was in. You gave me the space to. To say what needed to be said so that you can hear what you needed to hear. See we're co creating this moment right now. That's the way it happens.

[A]

That's so cool.

[B]

Yeah. Because I've been on podcasts before. Like, this is, I've spoken about this. I was on Lewis Howe's podcast.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I was a mess because his energy is very like this and I was very like this and I. I wasn't myself. And yeah, that's how it happened.

[A]

Because you're crow. Isn't that cool too? Because also you think about partnerships. Right. The most important thing that you choose in this life is a partner that you're going to spend your life with.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And when you think about people making

[B]

those choices without the tools, that's why I'm saying, go get your human design. Go get the. His human design. Go stick it in a GPT and say, tell us about each other. I'll give you an example. So when you look at energy and when you look at human designs, you'll notice that like different parts of you are defined or undefined as a reflector. Energetically. I'm undefined and I have an undefined spleen. What happens when you have an undefined spleen is. And I bet you a bunch of couples will relate to this. What happens when you have an undefined spleen is that like, you outsource parts of your power onto your partner and you don't do the things that you know that you should do for yourself, but you actually blame them for it. And all of this is happening unconsciously and it's all energetic and no one has ever told us like, how this stuff works. That's why I talk so much about it. Because once you discover it, you want the world to know.

[A]

Yeah. You want to be the vessel to allow people to experience the things you're experiencing.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

And so you're in this place now and you're like, I have it, so why wouldn't I share it?

[B]

Why wouldn't I? Yeah. And when I said I used to be afraid of it is I literally used to think if I share this, they're going to kill me because it was my deepest fear of the fear of death. Yeah. See how it.

[A]

And when you, I'm assuming when you say they, it's just anybody who just thinks that you could be anyone hurting a narrative that's been created and what

[B]

is happening right now because of social media is all narratives are literally being destroyed. The political narrative is being destroyed, the religious narrative is being destroyed. Everything is out in the open because that's how we actually transcend darkness. It's. We've been shoving it down forever. All of the Epstein files, what happened with Charlie, Kirk, all of this stuff, it's all coming up into the light. And the more that it comes up into the light, the more that all human secrets, they're just going to dissolve. And the more that they dissolve, the more that fear dissolves. And the more that fear dissolves, the

[A]

more liberated we actually are in love finally does win.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

Gosh. Yeah.

[B]

I still.

[A]

I know it's not preg, but like, I still feel it and it feels good. It's a great feeling. And it's cool to hear you talk and just to connect with somebody who truly puts a lot of my feelings into words. Because it's a weird feeling when you have all these things and you just. They feel jumbled and they don't quite make sense, but then when somebody says them, you're like, ah, that's what I meant. That's what I wanted to hear.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I do love to end this podcast in a space because I have a feeling I could keep you here all day. I'm not going to. You have places to be, things to do. But I really like to end this podcast in a space where either it's a piece of advice, motivation, inspiration, or maybe something we just didn't get to. That you feel heavy on your heart to share.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And go anywhere.

[B]

Yeah. The greatest piece of advice I have for anyone listening is that absolutely everything in your life that has happened prior to today, all of it has happened for you. And the thing that keeps you from seeing that is the resistance that you have for it. And the most important thing that you can heal is the relationship that you have with your mother and father. Because any negative energy that you have with your mother, negative energy that you have with yourself and your heart, any negative energy that you have with your father, it's negative energy that you have with your masculine and other people, because your father literally teaches you how to relate to others. So when you are attracting partners that aren't meeting you, that aren't loving you and that aren't choosing you, it is somehow connected to the relationship that you had with your father. And when you're in a constant state of anxiousness and worthy unworthiness and self doubt and fear and not feeling connected and not able to own your truth, it's because of something that you experience with your mother. And this is why healing is so important. And I would say that if you want to start, understand once and for all that, the only pain that your mother and father could have ever passed down to you is pain that they received as little boys and girls from their mother and father. And that's when you get to go, wait a minute. It's either I resist and hold on, or I let go and I allow myself to forgive them and see them and see their pain in them. And that's where everything heals is when you can look back, offer forgiveness, offer love, and your whole life will literally change forever.

[A]

You mentioned the little boys, little girls moment. One of the my favorite things to. To say to people when I hear they're having difficult relationships with family is you do realize it's also their first time going through life too, right? They're still learning.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

And again, didn't have a lot of tools and resources that we have now. And there has to be grace given. I'm not saying you have to forgive and forget in that moment, but understanding that they're also a human that is experiencing things for the first time too.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

Almost takes out the relationship and makes them more human.

[B]

That's right. That's right.

[A]

And that's what you mentioned.

[B]

It opens you up to allowing you. You could literally just tell God, say, I'm ready to forgive my mother. I'm ready to forgive my father. I don't know how to do that. I don't know how to forgive. I don't know how to open my heart. I actually don't want to do this. Every part of me is telling me to keep holding anger towards them, but I can see how that's hurting. So meet me where I'm at. Show me the path. Bring me the people. Bring me the circumstances that would allow me to forgive them. Because I'm finally starting to realize that the pain that I harbor towards them is actually pain that I'm harboring towards myself. And all you have to do is speak that into existence and forget about the how and watch how literally life will magically start to bring you whatever help and support. Support you need to forgive the people that you need to forgive the most.

[A]

That's so powerful. And truthfully, I don't know that we could hit on anything more important in this moment. So that's a perfect place to end. Check out Danny's book, awaken your highest self. You'll love it. If you loved him. The book is just more of that.

[B]

The website is awakenbook.com perfect.

[A]

And he has all. All kinds of content. Your Instagram.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Danny, Morell yeah, there. There's all kinds of stuff there too, so check it all out. But it sounds like I'll be doing some meditating coming up in these next few weeks. So Danny, thank you for being here.

[B]

Thank you for having me. Thank you.

[A]

I know interviews like this one can be challenging because they may bring up our own belief systems or internal values, but that's where so much of our own personal work begins. I hope this interview opened up something in you like it did for me. You can check out Danny's new book, Linked in the Show Notes. And while you're there, subscribe it up. Let me know who you want to hear from on this podcast. And don't forget you can watch on YouTube or follow along on social media media takethispersonally. I'm so happy that you're here. I love you.

[B]

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