THURS: Bobby On Michigan Coach Being Fired And Detained By Police + Bobby Is 9 Days Sober + Bobby On His Wife Giving Birth + Day 1 Of Our St. Jude Radiothon!

Summary

The Bobby Bones Show – December 11, 2025

Episode Theme:
A lively mix of current events (with a focus on a Michigan coaching scandal), personal updates from Bobby Bones and friends, and heartfelt stories from their annual St. Jude Radiothon, raising awareness and funds for children battling cancer and other illnesses.

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Main Topics Overview

• Michigan Football Coach Scandal: Discussion of the firing and subsequent criminal incident involving Michigan's head coach, with comparisons to past coaching scandals.
• Bobby Bones' Personal Updates: Reflections on sobriety from social media, impending fatherhood, and candid marital banter.
• St. Jude Radiothon Launch: Emotional interviews with patients and families, plus real-time fundraising efforts.
• Other Stories & Viral Moments: Chat about internet trends (mukbang, viral news), sperm donor controversies, and addiction.
• Listener Call-ins: Personal stories about St. Jude’s impact.

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Detailed Breakdown

1. Michigan Football Coach Scandal

(Starts ~03:11)

Key Points:

• Firing and Allegations:

  • Michigan’s head coach, Sharon Moore, was fired "for cause"—typically meaning contract violations, not poor performance.
  • Initial understanding was an improper workplace relationship: "He got Petrino'd," referencing another coach scandal (05:35).
  • Allegations escalated: an affair with a staffer, door-delivered plan B, and a significant salary raise for the staffer (05:43).
  • “If he'd have been a real good coach...I don't think they’d have fired him. I think they’d have covered it up.” – Bobby Bones (06:08)
  • Police arrested Moore after he allegedly broke into the mistress's home, threatened her, and held a knife to his own throat. His wife tracked him using phone location apps (06:48).

• Cultural Reflection & Viral Spread:

  • Podcast crew discusses how the scandal spread beyond sports media—with Amy confirming it appeared across her social feeds (07:21).
  • The conversation includes broader points about how outward intelligence in sports doesn’t always translate to personal judgement.

• Analogies for Personal Growth:

  • Amy brings up a therapy analogy: “You can’t go to the hardware store and expect to get bread” (09:14), with Bobby offering a Southern twist: “You can’t get Mountain Dew from a turnip” (10:02).
  • The group reflects on the importance of calibrating expectations in any relationship.

Notable Quotes:

• “They cut him. It was the motorcycle where he's got the big neck brace on. So I'm like, dang, he got Petrino'd.” – Bobby Bones (05:35)
• “If he'd have been a real good coach...I don't think they'd have fired him.” – Bobby Bones (06:08)

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2. Bobby’s Sobriety and Mental Health Updates

(13:09, 14:15)

• Bobby proudly announces being “eight or nine days sober” from Twitter and social media comment sections (13:09).
• He explains the improvement in mental health:
  • “It was benefiting me none to look at them. It was only detrimental to my mental health, to me wanting to fight people.” (14:58)
• Plans to only check comments/social once a week.
• Lighthearted conversation about addictive social media platforms and algorithms designed to “create enragement.”

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3. Viral Trends & Side Stories

(Mukbang: 16:05, Bang Bus/Bonnie Blue: 18:30, Sperm Donor: 32:40)

• Mukbang Discussion:
  • Group discusses the internet food-eating trend (mukbang), Nick Avocado’s viral videos, and the odd satisfaction these bring (16:05–16:41).
  • “Who doesn’t know mukbang?” – Bobby Bones (17:16)
• Bonnie Blue Arrested in Indonesia:
  • Talk of American adult performer Bonnie Blue being detained for participating in adult film activities in a country where it’s illegal (18:30).
  • "Bang bus" puns abound; discussion of international legal differences.
• Sperm Donor Controversy in Europe:
  • Chris shares a story of a sperm donor whose donations (200+ children) carried a cancer-linked gene, leading to tragic consequences (32:40).
  • “There should be a label. Like, they should know if you’re hanging out with your brother.” – Chris (37:00)
  • Conversation segues into the need for genetic screening, region-based donation limits, and real-world examples (like Iceland's sibling checker app at 38:00).

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4. Personal Anecdotes & Riffing

(Labor/Marriage Humor: 29:08, Addiction: 40:09)

• Fatherhood Banter:
  • Bobby jokes about his wife’s upcoming labor:
    • “When you go into labor, can you not make it so much about you?” (29:08)
    • He admits it was a deliberate attempt to get a rise out of her; the show laughs over marriage humor and comedy differences between partners.
• Addiction & Willpower:
  • Reflection on genetic predispositions to addiction; Andy Dick’s overdose and the spectrum of experiences with substance abuse (40:09).
  • “It’s not a willpower thing. It’s a chemical in the brain…It’s a dormant disease and you wake it up.” — Bobby Bones (41:16)

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5. St. Jude Radiothon Features

(46:49, 48:59, 57:01, 59:02, 63:45)

Radiothon Kickoff & Real Stories:

• Patient Spotlight:

  • St. Jude patient Anzi (diagnosed with rare blood disease, Fanconi anemia), mom Tamara, and their journey to St. Jude, which covered all costs and provided rapid, specialized care (49:10–54:06).
  • Anzi shares innocent details—math is her favorite subject, she likes therapy dogs, and recent adventures at the Opry (51:50, 54:33).

• Listener Call-ins:

  • Paul from Lake Charles, LA, shares his granddaughter’s positive experience as a St. Jude patient (57:01).
  • Abby from Florida, former St. Jude patient (ages 3–18), details surgeries, relapses, and the hospital’s supportive care (59:02).
    • “They do everything in their power to make you just feel absolutely at home and comfortable.” – Abby (59:15)

• Radiothon Progress:

  • Lunchbox updates fund-raising goals and regional callouts (56:47, 62:48).
  • The show repeatedly emphasizes that families never pay St. Jude for treatment, travel, housing, or food.

• Impact Stories:

  • Eddie tells the story of Valentina from Ecuador, whose cancer was successfully treated at St. Jude (46:55).
  • Bobby recounts Javon’s story—multiple cancer battles, setbacks, and eventual full childhood and college life thanks to St. Jude (63:45).

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Notable Quotes & Segments with Timestamps

• “If he'd have been a real good coach...I don't think they'd have fired him. I think they'd have covered it up.” – Bobby Bones (06:08)
• “You can’t go to the hardware store and expect to get bread.” – Amy (09:14)
• “It was benefiting me none to look at them. It was only detrimental to my mental health, to me wanting to fight people.” – Bobby Bones (14:58)
• “Bang bus. They get on a bus and have...” – Bobby Bones (18:50)
• “There should be a label. Like, they should know if you’re hanging out with your brother or something.” – Chris (37:00)
• “It’s not a willpower thing. It’s a chemical in the brain…It’s a dormant disease and you wake it up and now you have the disease.” – Bobby Bones (41:16)
• “They (St. Jude) do everything in their power to make you just feel absolutely at home and comfortable.” – Abby (59:15)
• “Families never receive a bill from St. Jude. When I say that, like, that’s the literal truth, right? — It is absolutely the truth.” – Bobby Bones & Tamara (55:58)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Michigan coaching scandal begins: 03:11
• Bobby’s coaching analogy and personal anecdote: 05:20–06:07
• Reactions and deeper takes on the scandal, spread to non-sports feeds: 06:48–08:13
• Therapy analogy and relationship boundaries: 09:08–09:44
• Bobby’s social media sobriety & mental health: 13:09–14:58
• Mukbang & internet trends: 16:05–18:15
• Bonnie Blue in Indonesia/Bang Bus: 18:30–22:12
• Sperm donor genetic story: 32:40–41:18
• Addiction as a disease, not willpower: 40:09–41:39
• St. Jude Radiothon (Valentina’s story): 46:49
• Patient (Anzi) and Mom interview: 48:59–56:25
• Listener Paul from Lake Charles: 56:47–58:54
• Caller Abby, St. Jude alumna: 59:02–61:36
• Bobby’s “Tell Me Something Good” (Javon's story): 63:45

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Episode Tone & Takeaway

The tone rotates between irreverent, warm, and deeply compassionate. The show balances comedic riffing and real talk on hot headlines and personal misadventures, with earnest, moving support for children’s healthcare through the St. Jude Radiothon.

Ultimately, the episode is a mix of sharp takes on viral stories, candid sharing about personal and relational growth, and compelling stories that underscore the life-changing work of St. Jude.

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For Listeners Short on Time:

• Interested in sports scandals? Start at 03:11
• For heartfelt St. Jude stories? Jump to 46:49, 48:59, or 59:02
• Want social media and mental health insights? 13:09–15:57
• Laughs and internet culture? See 16:05–22:12

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If you want to help St. Jude:

• Call 1-800-795-1800
• Text "BOBBY" to 785833

"Families never receive a bill from St. Jude...because all the family should have to worry about is helping their Kid Live." – Bobby Bones (55:58)

Transcript

[Bobby Bones]

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[Amy]

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[Bobby Bones]

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We got a lot of stuff to talk about. We are today we did on the radio show the Radiothon. So if you want to be a partner in Hope with St. Jude, we would love it. The phone number is 1-800-795-1800 19 bucks a month. We'd love it. That's not what we're going to do primarily on the podcast, but just wanted to say that up front. Amy, did your algorithm feed you the Michigan football story?

[Amy]

Yes, it sure did.

[Bobby Bones]

I didn't know if it was big enough to cross over.

[Amy]

Oh, yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

So Sharon Moore, the Michigan head football coach, was fired yesterday, which just in the sports world was big news because of the timing of it. Because the coaching carousel, which is what they call it, has already happened, meaning the biggest jobs open, coaches from big to mid schools going to the biggest jobs and they got to fill those other jobs they just opened. And they call it a carousel because it's all these coaches shifting places. So usually by now all those jobs are full and filled. So they're like, Sharon Moore has been fired. Now, he only really got the job because the head coach that was at Michigan went to coach the Chargers. But that head coach Harbaugh in Michigan had gotten to a little trouble for cheating, for stealing signs from the other sidelines. They won a national championship. He now has suspended like 10 years from coaching in college. Michigan's been the source of a bit of scandal. Nothing like what happened yesterday, though. So Sharon Moore gets the job. He was on that staff and he's had a pretty good couple of years, not really to Michigan standards. They lost to Ohio State this year for the first time in years. So I don't think he was going to last there anyway. But that has nothing to do with what we're about to talk about. He gets fired, which is weird because all the coaches that are possibly in the mix for a new job have already got their job. So you realize something's up and they say for cause. And if you're fired for cause, you don't get the rest of your contract because that means you did something that violated one of the terms. That's not sucking at coaching. If you suck coaching and you have a buyout, they have to pay you all the rest of it. If they feel like you're not doing your job good enough, that's not for cause. And it started to say for cause, and then it started to come out that they caught him having an affair with a staffer. Now he's married with four kids.

I am close ish to this story because this happened to me with my favorite team a decade ago, where our head coach, Bobby Petrino, got fired because he was having an affair with a staffer, and he had hired her and given her a raise, and.

They cut him. It was the motorcycle where he's got the big neck brace on. So I'm like, dang, he got petrinoed.

So that starts to come out. And they show who she is, and she's the daughter of a big NFL scout, and she was his, like, executive assistant, and he gave her a big raise. And they were showing, like. Because Michigan's a public school, so they were showing, like, all the financial documents. And then the story started to come out, allegedly that, like, doordash brought plan B to the office to drop it off, and he had her take it.

[Chris]

Whoa.

[Bobby Bones]

And someone reported that. And it seems like people in Michigan knew for a while they were just trying to. And. And if he'd have been a real good coach, I'm going to tell you, I don't think they'd have fired him. I think they'd have covered it up, but they didn't. He ends up getting fired, and then we hear about it. Then last night, they're like, police have now arrested Shrone Moore. Arrested. I don't think what he did was illegal. Turns out, according to stories, allegedly he busted into his mistress's house, who he, according to stories, allegedly had an abortion with after he got her pregnant and threatened her life and then held a knife to his throat.

[Amy]

Oh. He was crashing out hard, big time.

[Bobby Bones]

And his wife tracked him using the app because they f. They, where am I? App or follow whatever it is I.

[Chris]

Have with my wife.

[Bobby Bones]

Just Apple cops got him at a church.

[Amy]

Find my phone.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. And at a church. That's where they intercepted him, they said.

[Amy]

But, like, he was in a parking lot near one. Okay. I thought I was in there.

[Bobby Bones]

No, no, no.

[Lunchbox]

That's what I read. When I read it, I was like, oh, man. He went to go, man, that's crazy hard.

[Bobby Bones]

Crash out.

[Amy]

Hail Mary.

[Bobby Bones]

I see you with your double entendre. Hail Mary.

[Amy]

You catch that?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. It's a crazy story. And what I was thinking was, I wonder if this got over to non sports.

[Amy]

It did. Yeah. Because also, I follow people. Like.

What'S his name? No, I can't even think of his name. But He's a. He's a sports. No.

[Chris]

Herbie saw a guess.

[Bobby Bones]

No, because he's like, down the middle.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

You know.

[Amy]

Well, like a lot of times Moshe will post Tim stuff, so. No, not Tim Tebow. Emmanuel Acho. Acho.

So he, you know, he's from Texas.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes, he's from Texas. I can tell.

[Amy]

So I think I saw him do a whole breakdown and then, yeah, it popped up on a few different news feeds. So I don't know that it was so much. I think it was like actual people that I follow, but they were choosing to focus their energy on it. Cause it was such a big story, which he. He. He does sports often, but he also does other stuff.

[Bobby Bones]

Wild story.

[Chris]

That's crazy, because when I caught it, like at, I don't know, four o', clock, it was just that he'd gotten fired. But man, the. The way everything unfolds as the night goes on.

[Amy]

But I mean, I was. I'm like, okay, how does such to get in the position he's in? He's an intelligent man. Okay, I guess I'm assuming.

[Bobby Bones]

Go ahead.

[Amy]

I would assume most head coaches like that.

[Tamara]

Like you.

[Amy]

You're smart. You order plan B to your school.

[Bobby Bones]

Now, again, this is alleged, allegedly, but the same people that were tweeting about this were the ones that weeks ago were saying something's coming. And they wouldn't say exactly what it was. So it had kind of been known.

[Amy]

Yeah, it's just sort of like, you know, respectful.

[Bobby Bones]

Let me fact check that for me, Mike. I saw it in like three different.

[Amy]

Places, but they're just like, okay, no one's ever gonna know. I'm just gonna doordash Plan B to the university, I believe, or to my office, I believe.

[Bobby Bones]

I saw on your Instagram story.

[Amy]

Mine.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I'm trying to remember the quote. It was like, you don't go to a bar and ask for WD40.

[Amy]

Oh, yeah. No, you don't go to the hardware store shopping for bread. Like, if you need bread, same thing.

[Chris]

I feel pretty good how you interpreted that.

[Amy]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's.

[Marla]

It's.

[Amy]

Yeah, yeah. Kat said she uses it a lot in therapy for people to understand. Like, sometimes you have expectations of certain people for certain things, and it's like, you can't go to the hardware store and expect to get bread.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, I think a very into. That fits in this because, yeah, he's really smart at football. It doesn't mean the other parts of his life that he's got it all figured out that he's not having struggles or.

[Amy]

Yeah, yeah, no, I get it. And then. And yeah, when you're like, you want.

[Bobby Bones]

Football, you go to that WD40.

[Chris]

Yeah, I'm still kind of lost on the hardware store.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah, I don't really get it.

[Bobby Bones]

So remove anything we're talking about because it's a great, great. I say a lot of times you can't get Mountain Dew from a turnip.

[Amy]

Oh, that's a good one, too.

[Bobby Bones]

That's more of the southern version.

[Amy]

So it's just in your expectations of people. Sometimes you keep going. Even if it's your partner, your wife, your husband, your best friend, they can't always offer what you need. And if you keep going back to that, well, it causes resentment for no reason when that person can't give you that. So she uses the analogy as a therapist oftentimes. Like, if you're looking for bread, don't go to the hardware store. If you're looking for bread, you need to go to the grocery store. So that might not be bread. Is you fill that in with whatever it is and the store is whatever you need. And then you go to the appropriate person to fill that. Like, it might be. Your best friend is great at offering XYZ and your husband can't give you that, you know.

[Chris]

Got it. Yeah, that's pretty good.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Chris]

Yeah, you're right. I've heard a bunch of different ones.

[Amy]

It helps with proper boundaries in relationships and knowing the capacity of what someone has to give you so. So that you don't build a resentment.

[Bobby Bones]

So I don't think you go to him for relationship advice and how to keep a happy marriage.

[Chris]

You got a question about coaching?

[Bobby Bones]

You want to know how to run a spread offense?

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes. So, okay.

[Amy]

Yeah. Yeah, that's terrible. He's got four kids. I just. When all this stuff gets so public, I don't know how old his kids.

[Chris]

Are, but yeah, no one really thinks about.

[Lunchbox]

What about the chick? I mean, is this good for her? Like, is she going to become famous because of this or is this bad fame?

[Amy]

It depends on what she. If. What she cares about.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. I think if there's fame, it's infamy a bit. She probably just wants it to go away.

Yeah, it's bad news for all parties. And there are clips of them standing by. And again, she was his executive assistant, so obviously they're together a lot. But there are clips of them, like pre game, standing by each other, talking. And now people are finding every specific time they were together on camera or walking but again, that job promotes them being together, but them being together promoted her to get this job.

[Lunchbox]

I mean, she went from like 50,000, 50,000 to 90,000.

[Bobby Bones]

And you can't do that. I mean, that's what Bobby Petrino did, the Arkansas coach. And what sucked is we were so good. We had won 10 and 11 games. We were finally winning. It was awesome. I wanted him to hide it and they didn't. And he left. Then he came back as offensive coordinator and then.

Is wild, man. I'm sad about that more than anything else.

[Lunchbox]

So she gets fired too, right?

[Bobby Bones]

I'm sure. Yeah, I don't know for sure, but I'm sure. She was the executive assistant to the head coach in the Michigan athletic staff directory. She joined the university in 2021, working in on campus recruiting. Her salary saw a significant increase from 58 to 90,000, which fueled online speculation amid the scandal. She's a daughter of Jeff Shiver, a veteran scout for the Chicago Bears. So all I wanted to know is if that made your timeline your story. What social media platform Instagram.

Do you do Twitter at all? No.

It'S a bad place, ma'.

[Chris]

Am.

[Bobby Bones]

I think I'm like eight or nine days sober now.

[Amy]

Good for you. Now you have it gone.

[Bobby Bones]

No, I don't check any at replies at all. I don't see anything said to me. I don't. I never check anything. I don't look at comments anywhere.

[Amy]

See, I don't even know that it's bad over there because I just don't go.

[Bobby Bones]

Good for you. You're not going.

To Iran?

[Amy]

Is that what it's like?

[Bobby Bones]

So you don't know how?

[Amy]

I mean, because I don't have a desire to go to Iran.

[Bobby Bones]

So it's bad news. I like the for you part of it, for the most part. Although these social media companies, their job is to get engagement. And you know how to get engagement, Create enragement. And so they want to do things not only give you what you're asking for, but they also want to slide in little things that trigger you as well. So you get upset. That's how they stay alive, you getting upset and engaging with certain things.

[Tamara]

What is it good?

[Amy]

Is it good for sports or what news is awesome? Okay, see, because. Yeah, that's what I. I don't ever even really think about it unless you talk about it or. My boyfriend's on it a lot, but he must be on it for news. News and sports because he's not. He's not. He's not posting. He's Just reading.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Nine days sober, I believe.

[Chris]

Wow.

[Bobby Bones]

Which is hard because I naturally go right to Matt. Replies, I want to see what everybody has to say about anything I said or anything I've done. But I don't. And I have found that I'm much happier. I don't go into Instagram, comments on my stuff. Much happier. I don't look at anything. But I did. I told Mike, we did a bobbycast. That's up. I told Mike, I said, I think I'm gonna just dedicate, like, Tuesdays for days when I look at stuff.

[Chris]

Every social media.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Not just Twitter, Tuesdays, not just social media, because I look at social media and I go into other people's comments, and it's so toxic in other people's comments at times. And I'm like, man, I hope they don't believe this stuff. And then I would look at mine, and I just get so mad, and I'm like, why can't I subscribe to what I tell other people?

[Amy]

Right?

[Bobby Bones]

So it was benefiting me none to look at them. It was only detrimental to my mental health, to me wanting to fight people. I fight people on Twitter all the time. Like, that's, like, the one that's like my fight club. You go into a basement, get all your anger out, Arkansas, lose a football game. I just fight with somebody.

Call out their family.

[Amy]

Oh, see, I don't know. He just hasn't been that. I don't. I don't experience negativity, really. I mean, I watched a girl yesterday, for, like, three minutes.

Heat up a potato in a microwave and then scoop a hole in it and squish some cheese down in it and then ate the potatoes like a sandwich. And I watched her do the whole thing. And I was like, what is wrong with me? Like, why did I just watch this? And that's weird. First of all, I'm intrigued now and kind of want to try it, because she acted like this is the best snack known to man. And that's kind of where I am.

[Bobby Bones]

You know, I like it. It's a healthy place.

[Chris]

I watched polar bears in Alaska. This guy just sitting in his truck, like, live streaming, watching polar bears, probably like 30 minutes in. It's pretty crazy.

[Bobby Bones]

That's a whole show. And Mike, I was at physical therapy, and one of the assistants to my physical therapist was talking about mukbang. Yeah, I knew all about it.

[Amy]

The people that eat the.

[Bobby Bones]

She do them or she watches them. She watches them. But she was talking about it. She goes, are you guys familiar with Mukbang. And not only was I familiar and I knew what it was, and I was the only one of, like, the six people around because different people are getting worked on. I said, what about the dude that lost all the weight, recorded all the videos ahead of time? And she was like, yeah. She said his name. Nick Avocado. Yeah.

[Amy]

And then we talked about, does Nick Avocado do mukbang?

[Lunchbox]

He did.

[Bobby Bones]

And then he. I think maybe over a year or two, lost a bunch of weight and then posted all this stuff. Like, Eric, I just banked all this stuff. So a lot of the food that he was eating, he would post it, have it on a schedule, and it'd come out every few days, and he would just eat big dude. But what had happened was he had recorded a bunch for, like, a year or so, right? Yeah. He'd go to, like, McDonald's, order the entire menu, and then eat it on camera and then. But he would. As he was posting all the videos, he was actually losing weight, but you wouldn't see it in the videos because he recorded so many ahead of time. So just one day, he comes back and he's like, 100 pounds lighter.

[Amy]

Oh, wow.

[Bobby Bones]

It's crazy.

[Chris]

That sounds familiar. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

We talked about a long time ago, but I felt pretty in the know because I was like, mukbang, of course. Who doesn't know mukbang? And everybody else is like, what's mukbang? And I was like, you guys have no idea.

[Amy]

Yeah. I get fed mukbang from time to time. I had to Google it.

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, here's another one.

[Amy]

Good job, mukbang.

[Bobby Bones]

You get fed mukbang, you don't even know what you're doing.

[Amy]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now I did it.

[Bobby Bones]

I did it again.

[Amy]

I knew the when I did Hail Mary, but I had to Google it. And at first I was like, what is this?

[Bobby Bones]

It feels like it's dirty stuff.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Because I felt. Because it was girls. And I was like, is this something?

[Bobby Bones]

It's. The word bang is in it weird. And muck rhymes with, you know, sexual.

[Amy]

Thing on my face.

[Chris]

I didn't think about that. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Imagine if just the F was changed.

[Amy]

Yeah. Like, I thought this was, like, the.

[Bobby Bones]

Only thing M is f. It's a whole different thing. That's the worst.

[Lunchbox]

Yes.

[Amy]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I was like, oh, but this one girl that I ended up watching for a while, I think I went, like, 20 reels deep of her mukbang, and she would like, so you did it again. Mukbang.

[Bobby Bones]

No, no, no.

[Amy]

I didn't mean to do that part. Okay. So she would make these frozen candies, and the way her microphone was, when she would bite into them, it was very satisfying.

[Chris]

The sound was.

[Amy]

Yeah, it was like this crystallized candy. Do you know what I'm talking about, Mike?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Did you see Bonnie Blue got arrested? Yeah.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah. Poor girl.

[Amy]

Who's that?

[Bobby Bones]

So she went to Bali, which I wouldn't have known really, where the country is, but it's Indonesia, and she went to Bali and they were doing like, a. On a bus. They were having sex with all these people. She's the one that did, like, 200 people in a day or something.

[Amy]

Oh, it's like a thousand.

[Chris]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't remember the number. Speaking of mukbang, it's called a Bang Bus. Bang bus. They get on a bus and they have.

[Chris]

Really? That's a thing.

[Amy]

I know she doesn't want people to feel bad for. I feel for her like something I don't like. She thinks it's fine.

[Bobby Bones]

But they came in. Why would you go to a foreign country? Because she's not in jail. They arrested her, but they took her passport. So now she's, like, stuck in Indonesia. And they confiscated, like, everything in the bus, and it was like.

[Chris]

They arrested her for being in the bus, being part of the bus.

[Bobby Bones]

They arrested her because there are certain countries you can't do pornographic things even in your own. Like Indonesia. I don't know a lot about Indonesia. Sounds more like a college team than it does a country, but you can't do that. They arrested her. They're holding her in the country.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Lunchbox]

Fifteen years, maybe in prison.

[Amy]

That is not where I want to be held.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't want to. It's. I'll tell you a funny thing, is that. So the World Cup's coming to North America. It's going to be Canada, United States, Mexico. And so they're going to be summer of next year. And so they have a Pride match, which is in Seattle. And I believe the two teams playing the Pride match are.

[Chris]

Egypt was the one.

[Bobby Bones]

Egypt and Iran, where you can't even be gay legally. Now, the Pride match was already determined that site in that time. But then they do a random draw, and the two teams in the World cup playing the Pride Match are two teams where you can't even be gay legally.

[Amy]

Sorry, why is it called the Pride Match?

[Bobby Bones]

Well, it's like, to promote unity.

[Amy]

Okay. And I didn't know if there was. I didn't know pride was for something totally separate in soccer, like, you know, like a pride.

[Bobby Bones]

No, it's not. It's for what? It's here now.

[Amy]

It's a group of lions are called.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Amy]

So I didn't know if it had a totally different meaning. So this is for the celebration of equality and.

[Bobby Bones]

And it's the two countries that celebrate it the least that actually will put you in jail for it. Now. They didn't plan it all this way. No.

[Chris]

Because it is selected.

[Bobby Bones]

It's so funny that that's what it is.

[Amy]

Yeah. That's weird.

[Bobby Bones]

You'd think they would just like, move it.

[Chris]

They select and be like, I'm going to select again.

[Bobby Bones]

The June 26 match in Seattle was assigned to Iran and Egypt.

And it is the Pride match, the World Cup. The two worst possible teams. Countries to play in that. Hilarious. I'm a big pride guy, so it's funny to me that the two countries where it's illegal to be gay are playing in the Pride match.

[Chris]

Is us going to be good for, like, the World Cup?

[Bobby Bones]

You can ask Lunchbox. That's.

[Lunchbox]

I mean, we should be all right.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, our group is very weak.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah, that's.

[Bobby Bones]

We for sure cheated.

[Chris]

Oh, our group that we're in, like, the division or whatever. The group.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. FIFA is very shady. So they were shady for us for a change.

[Chris]

Good.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. We have a very, very weak. And I don't know much about. I watched it. Wayne Gretzky can't read.

[Lunchbox]

He looked bad, man.

[Bobby Bones]

He's old, though.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah. Just he. And he had. And he was such in a hurry. He didn't understand. He just kept drawing bulls. Like, wait, wait, stop, man. Stop. We gotta explain. And he's like, oh, sorry, sorry. It's hilarious.

[Bobby Bones]

So, okay, I think we're caught up on this stuff. I want to talk about. Well, it's a sports that crosses over into pop culture.

[Amy]

Oh, yeah. No. And Bonnie Blue, I'm intrigued by. That's her own sport.

[Bobby Bones]

That is a sport. That is an endurance sport.

Where you do have to train your body, I.

[Amy]

Mean, and your mind somehow. I don't know.

[Bobby Bones]

They did confiscate a bunch of Viagra from the bus.

[Amy]

I'm not surprised.

[Lunchbox]

Did they take the bus?

[Bobby Bones]

I don't know.

[Amy]

Did she. Was she aware of the.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, because somebody had warned her. I read in the story there was another person was like, don't do that over there.

I don't know why. There's so many places if you're gonna do something like that, you do it. When you do, you just.

[Chris]

Where it's legal.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Lunchbox]

Man in fame. So cool now, like, she's famous for this stuff. That's crazy. She's making a lot of money.

[Bobby Bones]

No, she's in jail.

[Lunchbox]

She's not going to be locked up in a house. She's not in jail yet.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, they did arrest her. Yeah, but they took her passport, so she doesn't get to come home.

[Chris]

I have seen pictures of Bali. Bali is really pretty.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. I don't know why I know Bali. It feels beachy.

[Amy]

People go there. You maybe see, like, I don't know, it pops up in my feed every once in a while. Like, people go there to.

[Bobby Bones]

What's it find themselves.

[Amy]

Find themselves going to Bali.

[Bobby Bones]

Is Bali even Indonesia or is it just near Indonesia?

[Amy]

I thought it was part of it.

[Bobby Bones]

But maybe again, the province of Indonesia.

[Amy]

Oh, yeah, that's it. Province.

[Chris]

That sounds like a fancy word.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't know what other countries are near Indonesia? Singapore. Singapore. It's above Australia, right by the Philippines, kind of below Thailand. India.

[Chris]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. I never am over there.

[Chris]

Never made it to that part of the world.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, I've been to Australia, but I never really just stopped by is there's no opportunity for me just to stop by. All right. Around the room. Amy.

[Amy]

Oh, man. Hold on. Sorry.

[Bobby Bones]

Dang. We're 20 minutes in. You weren't ready.

[Amy]

No, I didn't write it down.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Amy]

There was a man who got arrested.

[Bobby Bones]

Because he sent something a little strange.

[Amy]

Through a bank tube. You guys want to guess what he may have seen?

[Chris]

I mean, it could be anything, you.

[Bobby Bones]

Know, I'm talking about one of those.

[Amy]

Tubes when you go through the drive through at a bank and you can send it shoots it straight up.

[Bobby Bones]

Is it sexual in nature?

[Amy]

Not sexual.

[Chris]

No.

[Lunchbox]

I can't guess. Poop.

[Bobby Bones]

Not poop.

[Chris]

I'm gonna guess like a fire. Firework. Firecracker.

[Tamara]

Oh, no.

[Bobby Bones]

It'd be terrible, but it'd be like. I'd understand why people would think that was funny.

[Chris]

If it didn't hurt anyone, it'd be funny.

[Bobby Bones]

What is it?

[Amy]

A bag of crystal meth.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, he accidentally sent it to me.

[Chris]

That's not fun.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, you don't send that off on purpose. Oops.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, he sent it through.

[Amy]

And they believe he was also under.

[Bobby Bones]

The influence at the time of doing this.

[Amy]

So he sent it in there thinking.

[Bobby Bones]

He was sending money, but like, hold on.

[Chris]

So if it's an accident, right? Like you accidentally put your crystal meth in there, it goes in the bank and that. You're like, oh, crap, I Hit send. Can you just tell us the teller, like, hey, can you send that back real quick? That was an accident.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah, it's really.

[Bobby Bones]

You can send it back, but they don't have to. And they're probably gonna call the cops. Why would you even have it?

[Lunchbox]

But the teller, like, what is.

[Bobby Bones]

You call a cop.

[Lunchbox]

Just send it back and let him be. Leave him alone. Let him do his meth.

[Chris]

I wasn't gonna say all that, but.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, like, it's like the situation could happen, and I'm sure it has happened. If people actually put their weed in there or whatever it is, or their gun.

How that happens, anything illegal, sure, that can happen. And they easily could have sent it back and said nothing of it. That person chose because it is illegal to call the cops. And then also, if they're on camera and they see it and. Yeah, let me walk through a scenario that car crashes and kills somebody.

[Amy]

Yes.

[Chris]

They're going to go all the way back to the bank.

[Amy]

No, I was thinking, like, you have an opportunity to intervene while this person's problems are not your problems. It's like, this could be the rock bottom that, like, Bobby's saying, save someone else's life or gets this person the help they need or whatever.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, I was also saying, like, you're. You could be on the hook if you purposefully put it back in and then he kills somebody.

[Amy]

Oh, you would be on the hook.

[Bobby Bones]

If you purposefully gave him his drugs back and then he's so high that he crashed into somebody. And somehow that footage, the security footage of you pulling it, of course.

[Amy]

Oh, I felt like your conscience might be.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, that would be too, but.

[Amy]

But I didn't know legally, maybe.

[Chris]

I feel like you can easily be like, oh, I didn't know what it was. I just gave it back to you because he asked for it.

[Bobby Bones]

You could plead ignorance.

[Tamara]

Yeah, true.

[Chris]

Plead ignorance. That's what I would do.

[Bobby Bones]

Your honor.

[Lunchbox]

I'm ignorant.

[Amy]

Plead ignorant. I mean, I. I've never seen meth.

[Bobby Bones]

I thought you were gonna say I'm ignorant all the time. I'm pleading ignorance all the time. All right, Amy, you're up.

[Amy]

So the highest form of intelligence isn't logic, speed, or memory. It's something called metacognition, and it's when your brain can literally observe what is happening and correct errors in real time. Like, let me give you an example, because I think that we all. This would be our high intelligence. Okay. Like, if you do something and then you pause and say. And you think to yourself, wait, why did I react like that? That is real time awareness. And this neuroscientist is saying that that's the highest form of intelligence. So I'm curious.

[Chris]

Oh, I do that all the time. Who has that all the time, dude?

[Amy]

Like, who has that? Like, if you're behaving a certain way and you're like, wait a second. Or you react to someone, you're like, oh, why did I do that?

[Bobby Bones]

I'll let Eddie go first since he's screaming that he had a superior intelligence.

[Chris]

I do it all the time. Like, I'll say something even on the show, be like, why did I just.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, that's different. That's you having, like, highly intelligent. No, that's you having remorse and regret for something stupid.

[Chris]

You say, oh, that'. That's not the same thing.

[Bobby Bones]

It would be like, in the early part of a crash out, we talked about crash out. So I'll use this as an example where you have awareness that you are crashing out. Bobby, you're able to stop that crash out, even though every part of you is saying, continue the crash out. And part of what a crash out is is the inability to stop the crash out because your hormones, you're emotionally, you're tired, Everything is off for whatever reason. So to me, what I hear is when you start the crash, it's not even stopping before it happens. I think when you start, because we at times do that, if you can have awareness of it when it's such an unaware area that you're doing it.

[Amy]

Sort of like when you might be in that, like, Bobby's using crash out. But also, like, you're in the middle of sort of flipping to. You know, sometimes you're acting rational, and then you flip to, like, not rational. Maybe if you're having an argument with your wife.

[Chris]

Yeah. Or like, mad at the kids.

[Amy]

Or you're mad at the kids. Yes. And you crash out.

[Chris]

I've been working on that one a lot. So am I working on my intelligence?

[Bobby Bones]

But, like, in the early part of it, you're able to stop it, not feel. Feel sorry for it after all.

[Chris]

Right, not that.

[Amy]

And you're able to recognize. Ooh, okay, I am activated right now. I am triggered. I am angry right now. Like, and you're labeling the feeling in real time instead of, like, having a whole situation happen. Anyway, I just thought it was interesting that, like, oh, wow.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Amy]

If we could concentrate on that. Like, that helps our brain grow.

[Bobby Bones]

Mine often happens in triggered moments, and sometimes I choose to continue to be triggered.

[Chris]

But you're choosing it?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Chris]

And you're aware of it?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. I often know when I'm triggered. I often know right when the switch hits, and I'm like, should I go forward or not? And most times I don't anymore. Sometimes I do. I think I have awareness of it, though. I told. Maybe you told my wife. I said I had 100% awareness.

[Amy]

You said it on the show.

[Bobby Bones]

But then did you tell her?

[Amy]

Yeah, we were talking about it, and.

[Bobby Bones]

My wife goes, you're 100% aware.

[Chris]

Ha ha ha.

[Bobby Bones]

And I said, how did you know that? That wasn't even a clip.

[Chris]

She texted you?

[Bobby Bones]

No, she told me in person.

[Chris]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

She goes, Cause Amy told me you're. I said, I am. I'm the most aware person I know.

[Chris]

She goes, ha ha ha.

[Amy]

She's probably the only one that maybe knows of times where maybe you're not aware.

[Bobby Bones]

I think she's not aware at how aware I am.

[Chris]

Oh.

[Bobby Bones]

She can't keep up.

[Amy]

Is that what you told her?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Chris]

I mean, it's pretty smart to say, like, I can choose. Like, I'm aware, but I choose to do whatever.

[Bobby Bones]

I told her last night. I said, hey, when you go into labor, can you not make it so much about you?

[Chris]

Oh, boy. Why'd you do that? Like, why would you say that?

[Amy]

Like, you just asked me for you right now. When that came out of your mouth, were you like, why am I this way?

[Bobby Bones]

No, I, like, why am I up this way? Cause I literally was just trying to trigger her. Like, to me, that was funny. And she knows it immediately and then just turns it back on me. She goes, yeah, that's a good point. Like, what should we celebrate about you while the baby's ripping out of me? And I'm like, well, there are many things. Cause this is a both of us thing that we're both getting into. I just don't want all the focus on you. You, like, I'm there, and who knows how long I'll be there. Like, my feet could hurt. Like, there are things that I'm going through. And so now it's just turned into an Abbott and Costello act. But, yeah, she didn't really take the bait. She's not a big bait.

[Amy]

She didn't take the bait.

[Bobby Bones]

She doesn't think I'm very funny anymore. She can basically. Anymore. She can predict everything I'm about to say before I say it.

[Chris]

Yeah, that's marriage, dude.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, but it's not on the other side because she makes me laugh so hard. She's the funniest person I've ever met. And she will make me laugh out of nowhere. Like, she can hit me in places I do not see coming. So I hear you. It's marriage. And I get so frustrated that she won't use that and monetize it.

[Chris]

Her humor.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes.

[Chris]

So what does that say about us, though? Because, like, I'm no longer funny, too. But there was a time, dude, where I was like, chris Rock. Oh, if we go. Meaning to your wife, if we go.

[Bobby Bones]

To dinner and we're four or six deep, and I've got the table just.

[Amy]

Laughing like, four or six people deep. Because, you know, that sounds like that's what people say. We're like, three deep drinks.

[Lunchbox]

I was like, what? What's going on?

[Bobby Bones]

If we got four or six people and I'm really giving them the business, like, I'm on, and they're just, ah, I got little comebacks. I'm telling funny stories, and they're just going to town. I'll elbow my wife and be like, you don't even get to appreciate this anymore because you do not think this is funny. She's like, I've heard the story three times. I'm like, yeah, I worked it out on you. That's how I got it. So funny. So. But, yeah, she's. She's really not impressed how funny I am. She's funnier than I am. And I'm often like, let's do something you should do social media. You should be on the podcast. She's like, I don't. That's not my desire. Like, I don't. I don't. I'm good. I'm like, you're wasting it. She goes, I'm not wasting it. Did you laugh? Yes. She goes, it wasn't a waste. I don't need to perform it for people to. So that's often the conversation. But I did hit her with the hey, let's not make this labor all about you.

Crazy. I thought that was funny. Yeah, that's what's up. Who did that story?

[Amy]

I did.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. That was a good one.

[Lunchbox]

A little late.

[Amy]

Phew.

[Bobby Bones]

Even though you weren't quite ready.

[Amy]

Good job, Amy. I was. I forgot to write it down on my piece of paper. And then we were so into that other story, I just forgot.

[Chris]

I have a question. Why Amy? Why have you been doing, like, falling into Forrest Gump?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, like, she's been doing that a lot.

[Chris]

Alabama accent.

[Bobby Bones]

She'll go, yeah, I wonder how today's gonna be. I think it's gonna be pretty Good.

[Chris]

Like she. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you say that.

[Amy]

I don't know. I don't know. I probably got it from somewhere.

[Bobby Bones]

It's always in mid sentence too. Like you'll start doing it and then you're talking as you. You never just launch into it.

[Amy]

Is it like the Christmas movies I'm watching? I don't know.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't know what it is.

[Chris]

Like you'll be like, yeah, that's weird. We didn't have that in Texas.

[Bobby Bones]

It's, I don't know, like a weird emphasis you're putting.

[Amy]

So back to. So I heard myself do that one a minute ago and I was like, why did. In my head internally, I was like, why did I do that accent? I don't know. It's Eddie. It's like you. When you're like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Cilantro.

[Bobby Bones]

He does stay consistent with how. With the words. He puts the emphasis on cilantro. Yeah. Spanish. Yes. What's your story?

[Chris]

There's a guy that's being investigated where they're investigating the whole thing in Europe. Who. He was a sperm donor and he had this cancer causing gene and he has fathered over 200 children in Europe and people are dying. Like kids are dying.

[Bobby Bones]

I didn't know that could be a thing.

[Chris]

Having the gene, like absolutely.

[Bobby Bones]

Having the genes that's so prevalent in your sperm that it's giving people cancer.

[Chris]

Yeah, that's what they're saying, that there's genetic cancer, that he has this gene. It's a cancer causing gene and he didn't know he had it. He says he didn't know he had it, but he's donated so much sperm that they are just finding out everyone that he's fathered and in the investigation they've already found like a few kids that have already passed away of it.

[Bobby Bones]

And I understand how you can have. Because that may have sounded kind of dumb. There's genetic cancer because I know genetic.

[Amy]

Well, no women can do genetic testing for breast cancer or.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess what I. But we really don't know. Environment versus genetic versus. And they all probably have a relationship with each other to create whatever's happening with our bodies. Right. A person can have a genetic cancer causing mutation in their sperm, but if it's a mutation, is it always present in the sperm?

[Chris]

Not necessarily.

[Bobby Bones]

So this guy.

Was donating sperm and not all of it had the cancer in it though.

[Chris]

Probably not. But I mean it's still. It's. I guess what they're trying to find out though. Is like, how many? Like, how is this okay? Like, you gotta double check to make sure that this genetics aren't in that sperm before someone donates. That much.

[Amy]

I know that's a lot. Like, it makes sense.

[Bobby Bones]

That much. I wish we could just put it all in like a bucket and see how much it is overall. That would be crazy.

[Amy]

So he's saying he swears he didn't know.

[Chris]

He says that he had no idea.

[Bobby Bones]

Then that's not on him.

[Amy]

That's not on him.

[Chris]

That's on me.

[Amy]

Unless he's like some secret sadist.

[Bobby Bones]

Unless somebody told him about it and he kept doing it. That's not on him. I'm reading about this now. The donor can carry a rare, previously undescribed mutation in the TP53 gene. The gene normally acts as a tumor suppressor, but in its mutated form, if significantly increased, it does a lifetime risk of developing various cancers, often at an early age.

While most of the donor's body cells did not contain the mutation. Is this about this guy?

[Chris]

He said up to 20% of his sperm contained it.

[Bobby Bones]

So that's not a small amount, but I felt like it was 100%, which I didn't know. There could be a cancer gene in every batch of every sperm.

[Chris]

Yeah, yeah.

[Amy]

Also, sorry, how many babies has he said?

[Bobby Bones]

Hundreds. I don't think he knows.

[Chris]

I said nearly 200.

[Amy]

See, now this is where this is getting really tricky because I imagine he's donated to one particular bank which is in a.

[Bobby Bones]

Probably multiple departments, multiple banks.

[Chris]

Because I've seen this before where like people have to have to do multiple banks because the one bank so much.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Okay, well, still, is he one county over or where is he? Because like, then you've got all these babies that are. That's a lot that you run the risk of those kids going to school together and dating.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Lunchbox]

What cross pollination.

[Chris]

There's a documentary that's out about that. This guy that they were trying to arrest because that was his thing, to donate sperm and just be a father of as many kids as he can. And they were. They would have. All the moms would have parties to be like, we need to figure out who his kids are. So they would get on Facebook and all these social media platforms to get together and they would get all the brothers and sisters together.

[Amy]

Yeah. It was only one day.

[Bobby Bones]

A man with 1,000 kids.

[Chris]

That's it.

[Amy]

Oh my gosh.

[Chris]

That's crazy, dude.

[Bobby Bones]

So I want to counterpoint your point though.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Obviously there are a lot of people that can't have babies or they're as like men. Their sperm doesn't work. And there are reasons that maybe the wife or a single person is going to get a. Obviously the sperm is needed. And if enough people. If there aren't people giving the sperm, some people aren't going to have babies unless there are people like this are given a whole lot of sperm.

[Amy]

No, I understand that, but hopefully there's some.

[Bobby Bones]

They need to mail it off to other states. Is that what you're saying?

[Amy]

They're just like, you need to like.

[Bobby Bones]

After your 10th a month, it's got to go one state over.

[Amy]

Yes. Like, you just need to like. Like there's only a certain amount of sperm per capita. Like.

[Bobby Bones]

I hear you.

[Chris]

There should be a label. Like, they should know. Like, you should know if you're hanging out with your brother or something.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, you should be talking. I just didn't want to. There to be the stigma of you can only donate so much sperm because the sperm is needed. But you're saying you just don't think the sperm shouldn't live.

[Amy]

We had. Surely they have.

[Bobby Bones]

You trade sperm with Minnesota sperm. We'll send you some of this guy and you send us some of that guy.

[Amy]

Yeah, like. Or yeah, do it cross country. Like literally different countries.

[Chris]

I think that's what. In that documentary, whatever, whichever one you were talking about, I think that's what they were trying to do is create laws to where you can only donate sperm in this area a certain amount.

[Bobby Bones]

Like really to prevent that. Literally. And that's what.

[Amy]

That was your point to be so unfortunate. Like, you fall in love and you're like, why do I have so much in common with this person? Oh, because I'm related to them.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, and you're like.

In. In Iceland. I think they had an app where. Because again, that's a country that's pretty contained. Not a lot of people in. I believe even in Reykjavik, which is the capital. It's the capital. It's the biggest city, but it ain't that big.

[Amy]

Yeah. They do have a.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes, it's called Sibling identifier Icelandings app. A mobile app that lets users bump phones to check if they're too closely related. Like cousins, second, third cousins, before dating. Using a vast database of family trees to prevent accidental incest. A real concern in the small nation of Iceland because again, not a lot of people getting out, a lot of people coming in, unless it's tourists. The app gained international fame with the slogan bump the app before you bump in Bed.

[Amy]

That's funny.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Lunchbox.

[Lunchbox]

Do you want happy or sad?

[Bobby Bones]

Whatever is the most compelling story.

[Lunchbox]

Andy Dick.

[Chris]

That's sad.

[Lunchbox]

There was video of him just slumped over on an LA sidewalk. He had an overdose, and they had to give him Narcan to reverse the effects. And he came out and said, yeah, man, I enjoy a crack every once in a while. I was out, and this guy started telling me about how he was sad and he whipped out some crack. He goes, I, you know, I could use some of that. He goes, I don't see anything wrong with it.

[Chris]

Yeah. He was, like, on the streets and he saw, like, some homeless guy who.

[Lunchbox]

Was, like, down on his luggage.

[Chris]

Down his luggage. They started talking and he had crack. And he's like, I decided to just do crack with him.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah.

[Amy]

And then the Narcan brought him back.

[Lunchbox]

Yep.

[Amy]

And now he's talking about it.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah, he said, yeah, that was me. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, I saw the news story that he had overdosed, and they brought him back. They used a Narcan on him. There's a book that I read called in the Realm of Hungry Ghosts, and it's Gabor Matei who wrote it. And it's about addiction and how some people. And I'm not saying this is true to Andy Dick's story, how some people are just. We're talking about genetics. Like, genetically, they don't really have the ability to be addicted. And they can do meth and they can do crack, and they can do. They can drink, and it might feel good to them, and they may do it more because of that, but there is not the addiction part of it with them. That's why there have been professors who have been fired from universities for being like, hey, I don't mind doing heroin. I do heroin occasionally to feel good. People are like, that's crazy. But they're like, I'm not an addict. I just use it. And that does happen with people where they can just go and enjoy it and then go back. It seems like he's had a lot of issues with it. So I'm not even talking about him specifically, but.

[Amy]

And you don't know.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. You don't know until you try.

[Amy]

Until you try. And it's like, is that work?

[Bobby Bones]

It's Russian roulette.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Especially with the hardcore drugs, because a lot of them, if you do have the addiction, it is so hard to get off.

[Paul]

And.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. And it can kill you or ruin your life and then kill you. But for some people, there is not that they can do heroin. And just go, well, that felt good. I may do it again in three months. Let's see. But you don't know unless you try it.

[Chris]

Even with, like, drinking. My brother can't have one drink without having, like 20. I can have one drink and not finish it.

[Bobby Bones]

Ray can have one drink and be drunk. It's wild.

[Chris]

All different kinds.

[Bobby Bones]

It's wild. Ray can have one sip and be like, ah, yeah, junk.

Yeah, that sucks. He's had a lot of.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah, he's had a lot of issues, man. Pretty bad. Sad, though.

[Amy]

And that's why I think it's important to sometimes people with addiction or alcoholism or something. Like, people question their willpower, like, especially if they've been sober for quite some time and then they relapse. It's like, oh, well, what's their. It's not, it's. It's just so much bigger. It's not a willpower thing.

[Bobby Bones]

No, not at all. It's a chemical in the brain.

[Amy]

Yeah. So it's.

[Bobby Bones]

It's like a.

[Amy]

It's just a reminder. Because some people don't understand that. And I can understand not getting it unless you've.

[Bobby Bones]

It's like a dormant disease.

[Amy]

You dive into it.

[Bobby Bones]

It's a dormant disease and you wake it up and now you have the disease. The disease is like, hello, I'm now here. You've triggered me. Rock and roll. And so now you have a disease. And some people don't have the dormant disease in them.

[Amy]

Correct. Yeah, yeah.

[Chris]

Like herpes. That's dormant, right?

[Bobby Bones]

Not in everybody, no.

[Chris]

Don't people get like, you know, cold sores or whatever?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, that's a virus.

[Amy]

But sometimes, yeah, it's asymptomatic. Like, you may not know. It's not like you have warts anywhere.

[Chris]

No, not the warts, but like people that get cold sores. Like, it's dormant for most of the time and then you get.

[Bobby Bones]

For most of the time. But it does pop up.

[Amy]

I thought you meant like herpes.

[Bobby Bones]

Herpes.

[Amy]

I thought you meant.

[Chris]

That's herpes too, right?

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, she thought you meant the herpes down there.

[Amy]

No, down south. That was her face.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, let us take a break.

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[Amy]

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[Bobby Bones]

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It'S time for the Good News with producer Eddie.

[Chris]

Valentina is four years old. She lives in Ecuador. Well, last July she felt a lump in her belly, told her mom, her mom took her to the er and the doctors were like, we don't know what this is. They did a numerous amount of tests and they realized it was childhood cancer. It was a rare form of cancer in her kidney. So they tried to do chemotherapy. Nothing was working. The tumor kept popping up. So they did what they had to do. They took her 2,500 miles away to St. Jude in Memphis. She was accepted. So the doctors there knew exactly what to do. They've been working on her. They did surgery on the tumor. It's removed. And her parents say that it's just been a blessing that they actually took her to the hospital.

[Bobby Bones]

When you support St. Jude, you're helping an organization that's helped push the overall childhood cancer survival rate from 20% to more than 80%, which is drastic. And so that's why we're here today. Together with St. Jude, we are fighting until no child dies from cancer. And that's a story about a girl in another country that's coming to Memphis. Now, honestly, we don't live in Memphis. And so you're like, why do you work with St. Jude? It's because they take kids from everywhere, every state. They take kids from all over the country, all over the world. And not only that, all of their research that they do, they share freely and openly. That's why. So if you want to become a partner in hope and help fight childhood cancer, the phone number is 1800-795180-01800-795-1800. You will for sure be helping kids wherever you live, whatever town you're in, whatever state you're in, whatever country you're in. 1-800-795-1800, become a partner in hope. Families never receive a bill from St. Jude, and it's all because of you. 1-800-795-1800. That's what it's all about. That was. Tell me something good. The Bobby bones Show and St. Jude. All right, we're here with Tamara and Anzi. Hi, Anzi. How you doing? You tired? I feel you. So Anzi is going back and forth to St. Jude right now in active treatment. Is that true? So how long ago did you get diagnosed, and how long have you been going to St. Jude?

[Tamara]

She got diagnosed in August of last year. We found out that she had Fanconi anemia, and she required a transplant back in April.

[Bobby Bones]

And that's a rare blood disease, right?

[Tamara]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

So. And I'm sure, like me, you probably didn't know a lot about it until they said that Anzi had it. Right. So there's a lot of education that happens right then.

[Tamara]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

And so what. I mean, like, what is that? Because I don't know exactly what that is.

[Tamara]

It's a genetic type of aplastic anemia. So basically, her body had quit making red blood cells, white blood cells, and platelets.

[Bobby Bones]

And when a doctor tells you that, how do they explain it to you?

[Tamara]

Well, I'm also a nurse, so I.

[Bobby Bones]

Feel like, yeah, that helped a lot. They.

[Tamara]

Yeah, I did understand a little bit about it.

[Bobby Bones]

So can you explain it to us then? Because we don't have any idea.

[Tamara]

I mean, basically, her body had just quit making. Was starting to stop making blood cells. Like the bone marrow was just not working properly.

[Bobby Bones]

And when they tell you this, how long until they say to you, hey, there's an option with St. Jude?

[Tamara]

The day that our primary care doctor sent the referral to the St. Jude affiliate. They wanted to see her that exact day.

[Bobby Bones]

Wow. Yeah.

[Tamara]

So I'm assuming you just go, oh, yeah, it was. They're amazing. I mean, we were. We were actually on a waiting list for a different hospital, and it was going to be like a four or five month waiting list. And St. Jude got us in literally the same day.

[Bobby Bones]

So when you go to St. Jude on day one, what happens?

[Tamara]

Well, we actually started out with the affiliate clinic. We see the Johnson City affiliate clinic. And then eventually they took her to Memphis about two months into trying to figure out what really was going on. First the affiliate clinic tried to figure out exactly what was going on. And then once she got a diagnosis, she went to Memphis in about a month after that.

[Bobby Bones]

And I think we talk a lot about St. Jude. We work with them a lot, and we talk about cancer a lot and childhood cancer, but this isn't that. This is a rare blood disease.

[Tamara]

Right, right.

[Bobby Bones]

And I hadn't heard, you know, when a lot of the kids come in, that either I've worked with, they come into the studio. It's rarely this. Did you know they worked with blood diseases?

[Tamara]

I did, but, you know, it was. I feel like a special circumstance in a way. I mean, they do have other disorders that they work with as well, obviously. But, yeah, I mean, it's a. It's a critical illness and it's a DNA repair disorder. So it could have very easily turned into a leukemia had she not had the transplant.

[Bobby Bones]

Ansley, do you have any pets?

[Amy]

I have a dog.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah? What's the dog's name?

[Amy]

Izzy.

[Bobby Bones]

Did you name him?

[Amy]

No, mom did.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, yeah? Yeah. Do you still get to see him a lot? Yeah. How old?

[Amy]

He's four.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, wow. What grade are you in?

[Amy]

I'm in second grade.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, dang. That's a really cool grade. Do you like second grade? Is there a school at St. Jude?

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

What do you do there?

[Amy]

I learn about stuff and equations.

[Bobby Bones]

Equations. What? What's your favorite subject? Math, I would think if you said equations. Yeah, that's a lot of math. What is school like for her, Tamara? Like what? What's school like at St. Jude?

[Tamara]

Well, they have a great program where they try to keep up with the curriculum that she has in her hometown. She just gets assigned a certain teacher, and then they have STEM labs and lots of different programs there at the school. So she was getting about an hour.

One to two hours a day at St. Jude as well, along with her treatment.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, how thankful are you for what St. Jude does.

[Tamara]

Oh, my goodness, we're so thankful for St. Jude. Literally.

They'Ve saved her life.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, how did you know that something wasn't right?

[Tamara]

So she went in for a six year old, well visited, and she's always been on the smaller side of things.

So she was really like starting to come down on the growth chart, like she was barely even on it at that point. And they did that. She'd had some reoccurring infections and just a couple other little things, and it just led to blood work. And then once they did the blood work, her platelets came back and they were really low. And then that's when she got the hematology referral to St. Jude.

[Bobby Bones]

A lot of parents listening now who maybe aren't affected by this. And I'm sure you thought you never would be affected by this. And if people are listening and they're wondering, like, why St. Jude? Like, what would that answer be from you?

[Tamara]

St. Jude is amazing. I feel like.

They have. We get top notch care there. They've just been so amazing with everything. Also, you know, we've never received a bill. We've never received a bill for anything. I mean, she's. She has hearing aids, she has so much medication. Just transportation going back and forth to Memphis lodging. I mean, honestly, we would have probably lost everything that we had had it not been for St. Jude, which is.

[Bobby Bones]

Why we do this show. And if you're listening now and you want to support St. Jude, I'll give you the text number. First. You can text the word Bobby to 785833 and then you will get a link back. That link is okay to click. That is from St. Jude. That's how you donate. Text the word Bobby to 785833 and when you do, you'll get this special edition Pimp and Joy shirt made just for today. So that is a text again, Bobbi to 785833. You guys had a night at the Opry?

[Tamara]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

Is that why she's tired? Yes. Yeah. What did you guys do at the Opry?

[Tamara]

Well, she got to meet lots of stars last night. She got to introduce Kelsea Ballerini and dance with her on stage, meet several other St. Jude kids.

[Bobby Bones]

And did you have any friends at St. Jude that you hang out with at all? Do you have any friends at. In school or anything at St. Jude?

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Are they pretty good friends?

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you have any. You want to shout out any of them? Say hi to. Say hi to them.

[Amy]

His name is Autumn and Gigi.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, well, we'll tell them. Hi. Well, I'm so glad that you came by. Did you have fun? Are you tired? Are you sleepy?

[Tamara]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, me too. I'm sleepy, too. I'm sleepy, too. Did you have fun at the Opry? Yeah. What did you get to do there?

[Amy]

I got to dance and make new friends.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, that's cool. Do they have therapy dogs at St. Jude?

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you ever pet them?

[Amy]

Yeah. Cause they sometimes they hang out at the school because there's a little carpet.

[Bobby Bones]

Really?

[Amy]

And their owners let people pet them.

[Bobby Bones]

That's really cool. Well, it's been really nice to meet you. Thank you for coming by. All right, you guys can also call this number, 1-800-795-1800. If you don't want to text, you can call now. 1-800-795-1800. Families never get a bill from St. Jude. When I say that, like, that's the literal truth, right?

[Tamara]

It is absolutely the truth.

[Bobby Bones]

Because, you know, they believe that a family should only have to worry about helping their child live. St. Jude leading the way in the way that the world understands, treats and defeats childhood cancer and other. Just like with Ansi, other life threatening diseases like a rare blood disease. So. And they share their information openly. I think that is so important too, because there are kids all over the world being helped by the research that St. Jude does. Well, thank you guys for coming in.

[Tamara]

Thank you for having us.

[Bobby Bones]

And Anzi, I hope you get a good nap. I'm going to get a good nap too, today, so it's going to be awesome. And if you're listening out there again, you can text the word Bobby to 785833 and click that link from St. Jude. Thank you guys for coming in. The Bobby bones Show and St. Jude. Let's jump over to Lunchbox and check in and see if we're getting closer to our goal of 75 partners in Hope with St. Jude.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah, Bobby, I'll get to that about our goal in a minute. I'll give you an update, but I got Paul on the line right now. Paul, what's going on?

[Paul]

Oh, nothing. I just wanted to call in and tell y' all my experience with St. Jude and how great it was.

[Lunchbox]

Okay. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

What?

[Lunchbox]

Tell us about St. Jude. Did you go to St. Jude? Did you volunteer there? Tell us your story.

[Paul]

My granddaughter was getting the run around in Lake Charles, so my daughter finally got in the car, took her to Texas Children's Hospital in Houston, and within 20 minutes of getting in there. They diagnosed the problem at di. So one of the doctors that was seeing my granddaughter McKinley, she sits on the board at St. Jude's and we didn't have to pay for anything. It was just so wonderful. Very welcoming feeling from the time we got there. You know, just a class situation, you know, having. Having to go there. You have to go somewhere. That's where you want to go.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah. This is Paul from Lake Charles, Louisiana, listening on 101.1 WNOE. Please text Bobby B O B B Y to 785833 and click the link from St. Jude. You can become a partner in Hope and you can help families like this. This grandpa, his granddaughter goes to St. Jude. They didn't receive a bill. Everything was paid for. You heard it from his own mouth how amazing that place is. He said, quote, if you have to end up somewhere, you want to end up at St. Jude because they're so amazing. When you become a part. Going to see. Receive that special edition Pimp and Joy camo T shirt made only for today. Call us 1-800-795-1800. Our goal this hour is 75 Partners in Hope. We are close to our goal. Need about 10 more people. And hey, where is Tampa? 103.5 in Tampa. Where are you at 94.9 TNT in Tallahassee. Come on. We got Lake Charles calling in. Where are you guys? Hey, Paul, man, thank you so much. Have a great day. I'm gonna go answer some more phones. Trying to get these. Trying to get these Partners in Hope.

[Paul]

Yeah, I'll be one of them.

[Chris]

All right.

[Lunchbox]

Later.

[Bobby Bones]

Paul, Bobby, Bones. Yes. Let's go over to Abby in Florida, who is on the phone. Abby, good morning. Thank you for calling.

[Abby]

So I heard you guys talking about doing the St. Jude radio sign, and I just wanted to call and say that I was a St. Jude kid. I went there from about 3 years old till about 18 when I graduated.

[Bobby Bones]

Wow.

[Abby]

And they are absolutely amazing. They are everything that you hear about. They honestly do everything in their power to make you just feel absolutely at home and comfortable. I am super ecstatic that I get to go back now and do live studies for them. So I get to go back and see my old family, my old doctors and my nurses. And because they are. They are my family. I've been there forever, so it's nice to see them.

[Lunchbox]

Wow.

[Bobby Bones]

You were there from 3 to 18. Can you share your story? Yeah.

[Abby]

So I was diagnosed with an oligodendroglioma, which is a brain tumor. When I Was three years old. It was surgically removed. Six months later, another one came back, and that vicious cycle kept happening. So I'd have surgery after surgery to remove a tumor until I had my fourth brain tumor. And they were afraid if they surgically removed it, it would paralyze me. So they decided to do radiation for six weeks, and then after that, they've been gone. I did radiation at 7 years old, and I haven't had a tumor since.

[Chris]

Wow.

[Bobby Bones]

And you go back and you would go back a lot, right? All the way up till 18.

[Abby]

Yep, I would go back. I eventually graduated to only going back once a year just to double check on things. Initially, it was every couple months to every six months to then a year.

[Bobby Bones]

So when we ask people to be partners in hope, like, what do you think we should say to convince them? Like, if they're thinking about it, they.

[Abby]

Like I said, they do everything in their power to make you feel absolutely at home and not worried about the treatments that are going on. So, for me, I was very much so afraid of anything to do with hospitals and lots of needles and all that fun stuff. But they would hire social workers just to come and paint and do arts and crafts with us. I remember doing.

I think it was a Mardi Gras parade. Like, they literally gave everybody beads. You got to dress up in those fuzzy.

[Bobby Bones]

So.

[Abby]

And walk around and parade around the entire hospital. And it was just a great way to distract us and get our minds off of the heaviness that was going on around us.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, I appreciate you sharing your story, and I'm happy that, you know, you're going back now on your own just to help out. It's not because you're still sick or dealing with those brain tumors. So really appreciate you calling and sharing your story with us, Abby.

[Abby]

Yes. Thank you for allowing me to have a great day.

[Bobby Bones]

Thanks, Abby.

[Abby]

Thanks.

[Bobby Bones]

Bye. Everybody listening. That's just one example, and one of the things we didn't mention there is that families never receive a bill from St. Jude for treatment or travel or housing or food, because all the family should have to worry about is helping their Kid Live. And St. Jude, obviously, they do all the treating, all the doctors, but then they do things like if you're 17, they build a prom for the kids. If you're 7, they do the painting. They also, as they're doing the clinical, they share all their discoveries openly. So this is. It's kind of like open source. So whatever they discover, they share with hospitals all around the world. So, like, your kid could actually be affected positively wherever you are because of what their hospital has found. So we're asking you guys if you want to be a partner in Hope. It's very easy. You can call 1-800-795-1800, be a partner in Hope. 19 bucks a month to help the kids at St. Jude fight cancer. The Bobby Bones show and St. Jude gonna go over to Lunchbox now. Let's see how we've done with our goal. We set the goal at 125. That's what we're looking for. Partners in Hope. You guys can still be a partner in Hope. We would love it. 1-800-795-1800 19 bucks a month. Be a partner in Hope. Let's go to Lunchbox now. How's it going?

[Lunchbox]

Our goal this hour is 125 partners in hope. Our biggest goal yet. But I got bad news. We're not there yet. We need about 50 more people to reach our goal. So kiss in 96 in Little Rock. Come on. We got a couple calls from Wichita. Represent Morgan and Abby. 121, the bowl in Wichita. We need more you people. Who's going to outdo you? You're going to let Little Rock beat you? Wichita. Come on. Give us a text. B O B b y to 785833. That's b o b b y to 785833. Then you click the link from St. Jude. We need 50 more partners in Hope. Let's go. Pick up your phone, start texting that number. Text Bobby B O B b y to 785833. Gotta go.

[Bobby Bones]

It's time for the good news with Bobby.

All right. Javon was 2 years old and he was diagnosed with acute lymphoblastic leukemia. So he's two. It's three years of treatment. He gets to five years old. And they were celebrating because he had gone through all the treatments. So they do a thing where they check on the bone marrow and that test revealed that the cancer had returned. And so he goes through it again. It's another three years. He gets out of that. They celebrate again. And so he has some normal cancer free childhood, but relapsed again in 2010. Now, during the relapse, he broke his leg. And so they did blood work, realized we got to put you back in the hospital. For 100 days he was in the hospital. He then went into a coma. And then he was unable to recognize his mother after the coma. Now still a kid. So St. Jude the whole time with him with him. With him, you know, and the goal at St. Jude not only is to help these kids, like fight cancer, beat cancer, get out and live a normal life. They've already been through with him three times at this point. So he finishes, gets out of the coma, starts to go to school. He since then, after attending St. Jude, which at school learned music because he was there for so long, he then earned scholar, a scholarship to play trombone at the University of Memphis. He was on college game day. And so he's gone through multiple treatments. Basically, I spent most of his childhood at St. Jude, and now again he's playing in the Memphis band with the trombone. So all because of St. Jude, all because people like you listening now donated and became a partner in Hope. Because nobody gets a bill if they go to St. Jude for anything, travel, for treatment, for anything, medicine. It's all covered because of Partners in Hope. 1-800-795-1800. That's the number you can call right now if you want to be a partner in Hope. You really will make a difference. 1-800-795-1800. Make a difference, support St. Jude and become a partner in Hope. That is what it's all about. That was. Tell me something good. Hey, thank you guys for hanging out. Thanks for listening to the podcast. Obviously, we put a little St. Jude on here from today's radio thon, but we still wanted to do a full podcast for you guys. And if you do want to be a partner in Hope, we would love it. If you're a podcast listener, the number is 1-800-795-1800. And they'll continue going if you continue calling and saying, hey, I want to give 19 bucks a month to help the kids at St. Jude. That would be awesome. So to all the podcast listeners, we'd love it if you stepped up and did this. And if you do, hit me in the DMs and just say, hey, podcast listener who's a partner in Hope. We'd love that. So, 1-800-795-1800. We're back. Tomorrow we'll do another radio thon, but we'll do another podcast as well with content and current events. Thank you, guys. Hope you have a great rest of the day. We will see you tomorrow. Bye, everybody. This episode of the Bobby Bones show is brought to you by Chase Sapphire Reserve. Traveling is one of life's greatest joys. Honestly, can anything be more exhilarating? Yeah, it can. With Chase Sapphire Reserve, it's your getaway to the world's most captivating destinations first, you'll earn eight times points on all purchases through Chase Travel and the card gets you into the Sapphire Lounge by the club at select airports nationwide and access to one of a kind experiences. Whether you are booking a once in a lifetime trip or your next weekend escape. Discover more with Chase sapphire [e-mail] Sapphire Reserve cards issued by JP Morgan Chase Bank NA member FDIC subject to credit approval terms apply.

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