Thursday Post Show (12-5-24)

Summary

The Bobby Bones Show – Thursday Post Show (12-5-24) Summary

Release Date: December 5, 2024

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Overview

In this episode of The Bobby Bones Show, the hosts delve into a tragic incident involving the United Healthcare CEO, Brian Thompson, discussing the circumstances surrounding his untimely death. The show also features an inspiring segment with Fisher, an 11-year-old battling brain cancer, and his mother Falena, highlighting their journey with St. Jude Children's Research Hospital. Throughout the episode, the hosts engage in candid conversations, interspersed with light-hearted banter and community interactions.

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1. Tragic Shooting of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson

Timestamp: [03:24] – [14:05]

The episode begins with a somber discussion about the murder of Brian Thompson, the CEO of United Healthcare. Fisher, one of the hosts, provides a detailed account of the incident, analyzing the potential motives and methods of the shooter.

• Fisher: “6:45am yesterday morning, the United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson was headed to an investor conference in New York City. He was one of the big speakers. Gunman approached him from behind, fired several shots. He was pronounced dead at a local hospital” ([03:49]).

Fisher expresses skepticism about the shooter being a highly trained hitman, citing the botched execution: the gun jammed, and Thompson was initially shot in the calf before being fatally wounded.

• Fisher: “He shot him in the calf at first. This is why I don't think it was like a hired, super skilled hitman” ([07:06]).

Further analysis suggests the possibility of the shooter being someone with insider knowledge or personal motives, though evidence remains inconclusive.

• Fisher: “There are a hundred theories as to what it could have been, and those are just people making up stuff” ([07:06]).

2. St. Jude Radio-a-thon: Fisher’s Battle with Brain Cancer

Timestamp: [38:39] – [58:46]

The show transitions to a heartwarming segment featuring Fisher and his mother, Falena, who share their experiences dealing with Fisher’s brain cancer diagnosis and treatment at St. Jude.

• Falena: “It started off with just a few random headaches, and it progressed really fast... On Saturday, we couldn't get the headache to go away. He was miserable” ([40:27]).

Fisher recounts his time at St. Jude, highlighting the support and facilities provided by the hospital, which played a crucial role in his treatment and recovery.

• Fisher: “There is a lot of stuff for you to do... Makerspace. There's music lounge. They have 3D printers...” ([50:26]).

The hosts emphasize the importance of partnering with St. Jude to support children like Fisher, urging listeners to become "partners in Hope."

• Jourdan: “You can become a partner in Hope and help people like Fisher...” ([46:07]).

Fisher shares his aspirations post-recovery, expressing his dreams of becoming a professional Enduro racer.

• Fisher: “I'm hoping to either exceed my dream and be a professional motor... racing through the woods” ([59:12]).

Falena discusses the financial relief provided by St. Jude, ensuring that families never receive a bill, allowing them to focus solely on their child's health and well-being.

• Falena: “There's no bill because of people like you that are listening... Our family was going to be able to keep it together” ([51:10]).

3. Community Engagement and Listener Interaction

Timestamp: [14:05] – [38:39] and [58:46] – [84:41]

The hosts engage with their audience through various interactive segments, including gift card drawings and listener voicemails. They discuss the logistics of their gift card raffle, aiming to create suspense and excitement among participants.

• Jourdan: “Pick a number one through nine... And then it's like, oh, you find both of those things out at the same time” ([35:27]).

Listener voicemails add a personal touch to the show, with messages ranging from support for mental health to humorous anecdotes about office stealing.

• Listener James: “I left you a voicemail about a month ago about going to rehab... I am healing myself by myself, and the rest is yet to come” ([84:35]).

The hosts address a voicemail about mental health, emphasizing the importance of seeking help for oneself rather than relying solely on others.

• Jourdan: “If you're gonna get sober, it has to be for yourself... You're doing it for you and it will affect everybody else” ([86:05]).

4. Light-Hearted Banter and Office Dynamics

Timestamp: [14:05] – [84:41]

Throughout the episode, the hosts maintain a balance between serious discussions and playful interactions. They joke about office theft, cursing policies, and personal anecdotes, fostering a relatable and entertaining environment for listeners.

• Jourdan: “If people start stealing, I'll just work from home for the rest of my life” ([81:55]).
• John Paul: “You don't have to have turkey and all that” ([83:00]).

These moments of levity provide a break from the intense topics, showcasing the hosts' camaraderie and ability to connect with their audience on multiple levels.

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Notable Quotes

• Fisher on the Shooting: “He shot him in the calf at first. This is why I don't think it was like a hired, super skilled hitman” ([07:06]).
• Falena on Financial Relief: “There's no bill because of people like you that are listening... Our family was going to be able to keep it together” ([51:10]).
• Jourdan on Mental Health: “If you're gonna get sober, it has to be for yourself... You're doing it for you and it will affect everybody else” ([86:05]).

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Conclusion

This episode of The Bobby Bones Show offers a profound exploration of both tragic and inspiring stories, highlighting the resilience of individuals like Brian Thompson and Fisher. Through heartfelt discussions and engaging interactions, the hosts emphasize the importance of community support, mental health, and overcoming adversities. Listeners are encouraged to contribute to meaningful causes such as St. Jude, reinforcing the show's commitment to making a positive impact.

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Transcript

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[John Paul]

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[Jourdan]

And I'm Jourdan or Joho.

[John Paul]

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[Jourdan]

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[John Paul]

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[Kate Max]

Come on, Bobby.

[Jourdan]

Bobby.

[Kate Max]

Transmitting across America.

[Jourdan]

Everybody. Thank you for being here. The St. Jude radio a thon with today on the broadcast version of the show. And this is the podcast version which we're going to do some content as well. We appreciate you guys that listen to the podcast and we hope you became a partner in hope. And if you did, awesome. And if you're here just for the giggles, great. Or not always just giggles. Just for the compelling content. I know everybody's got a little something here. I'll go first. That CEO that was shot in New York.

[John Paul]

Oh, crazy dude.

[Jourdan]

And I've watched so many videos. First, let me just explain what happened. 6:45am Yesterday morning, the United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson was headed to an investor conference in New York City. He was one of the big speakers. Gunman approached him from behind, fired several shots. He was pronounced dead at a local hospital. Police say the gunman arrived at the location about five minutes before. However, that's been since. There have been multiple witnesses say this guy was waiting there for hours and hours. So. But I'm just going to read from the story from NBC News. Talking to NBC News, his wife, Paulette Thompson said there have been some threats. They were tracking down what they called several good leads. That is from NBC News. Now, this is just gonna be me talking about it because I got on the algorithm of it last night on TikTok. And first of all, the guy's in full head and mask and nobody thinks anything of it because people. Sometimes people wear masks now because of COVID Yeah.

[John Paul]

And it was that kind of mask.

[Jourdan]

No, but it doesn't matter. It doesn't. And it's cold at the same time. In New York, it's a combination of people already wear masks and it's cold, so you're just covering your face anyway, so you don't think anything of it. He's dressed in dark. He has a gray backpack on. And initially it was. He arrived right when the guy arrived. So it was like he must have known exactly when he was there. But then again, watching the eyewitness, some of the people were like, no, he was there. He was at a Starbucks. They have footage of him at a Starbucks called. The bad guy was at the Starbucks and waited for hours. Apparently walks up. I believe it was a.22 pistol. And what they call a suppressor is what we would call a silencer. So when you hear them talk about a suppressor, that's like in the movies when it's a silencer. So it did have that on it. The gun jammed while he was shooting. And you can see him unjam it and shoot because. Because he shot him in the calf at first. This is why I don't think. And it was purpose. This is me giving an opinion. This is why I don't think it was like a hired, super skilled hitman is because of all the things that went wrong. What's up?

[Unknown]

Your phone ringing?

[Jourdan]

No.

[Unknown]

Okay.

[Jourdan]

Just me chilling.

[Unknown]

Is that just me? Is anybody's phone ringing?

I think you're just hearing your interrupting Bobby's story.

[Jourdan]

Yeah, it was just a straight interruption. Ain't no problem.

[Unknown]

No, I thought. I wanted you to check because in case it's an emergency.

[Jourdan]

No, it's all good here. No missed calls or anything.

[John Paul]

Okay. Yeah, carry on, Buzz.

[Jourdan]

So the reason that I don't feel that it was a hired hitman, especially one of high skill, because it could have been a hired person to kill, but he shot him in the calf at first. And if you're using a handgun and you shoot, and very rudimentary version of this is if you shoot in your hands or below your shoulders, it's going to shoot low. The guy didn't know what he was, did. He did hit him. He didn't know what he was doing, so he shot him in the calf, unjammed the gun, shot him in the back, took off, got on the E bike, got, got out of there. As of right now, they still don't know who he is. So I think there was some history of using that weapon because you don't unjam a gun like that without knowing how to use it. But I don't think it was someone who was like a million dollar hire to hire a hitman to kill a CEO because of how. Because if that were the case, he'd walked up, put right beside his head and killed him and walked off. Same thing because he was five feet away from him. Like that's probably how that would have gone down.

[Unknown]

Also, he probably wouldn't gone to Starbucks beforehand.

[Jourdan]

Like that seems so weird that you gotta stay awake. You've been out There all night.

[Unknown]

Like you're just hanging it. Like you're gonna go to Starbucks when, like, you know there's gonna be video of you in the Starbucks.

[Jourdan]

And they have his mask on, though. And how. What I would counter on that is he knew he's gonna be on video anyway everywhere, because he was. He's on video with the mask on and the gun. They got him like, four or five different places, including Starbucks. And it looks like the same picture. He didn't take his mask down in Starbucks.

[Unknown]

Do we know what he used to pay with at Starbucks yet?

They haven't said that. That's what I want to do.

[John Paul]

Did he buy a drink?

[Jourdan]

And it's like, if he had his phone with him, he's cooked.

[Unknown]

Well, they found a phone. They found a phone in the alleyway where he fled, and they do believe the phone belongs to the person. And they are trying to get a search warrant to go through the phone.

[Jourdan]

Which, if it wasn't a burner phone. Again, not somebody who is hired to do this at a high level. Now, there are a hundred theories as to what it could have been, and those are just people making up stuff. But a person that would have been hired to do this on a high level would have probably. One, had no electronic device on them at all because there's no tracking. Two, would have walked up and just put it at his head and boom, and walked away. Because he basically did the same thing. Just two shots, but 7 to 10 to 12ft away. Wouldn't have shot him in the calf. What they're so all that is the non feel, non emotional part of it, right? That is the. I cannot believe we just saw that happen. Broad daylight, got away on an E bike. E bike to their Walked, walk, Got back on an E bike, had clothes you could change in and out of, had a great backpack, nondescript clothing.

[Unknown]

All of that also fled into Central park, where they said there's not very much, very many cameras. So that's probably why he went into Central Park.

[Jourdan]

I changed his clothes. Like, rode the bike in a Central Park. I changed his clothes. Yeah. And got out and got out of there. Is this updated, Mike? Yeah, this is the mask gunman who stalked and killed, used ammunition with the words deny, defend, and depose. So on the bullet. I had not read that until right now.

[Unknown]

Yeah. Which is the title of a book written a few years ago talking about how health care uses these words to delay your. To avoid paying you out insurance things.

[John Paul]

What are the words?

[Unknown]

Deny, delay.

[Jourdan]

No, deny, defend, and Depose.

[Unknown]

There you go.

[Jourdan]

So also, this could also be what they call like a false flag. Somebody could be doing this to throw the sin off. Where if they're doing this, someone goes, well, it must be because they're upset about insurance. When it's somebody going, well, if we do this, there's just so much right now that that doesn't make me feel like that is real. That could be a red herring.

[John Paul]

You did say that the wife said that they had threats.

[Unknown]

Yes.

Yeah, but I think, I would think that all those insurance CEOs. Yeah, I feel like that's all the time. I think that's a common thing.

[Jourdan]

People are so mean too. I was looking at comments and every one of them was like, I would give condolences but my insurance wouldn't come. Like in the comments section. These. But also people are also. I was also irritated because they're like stealing the joke too from other people. So the first thing I was like, you're a sad human. Why would you do this? Somebody just died. And secondly, I'm like, you just stole that joke from another person's Instagram comment and used it. Now you're getting all the likes. Loser. He was a guy who moved up through the company too. He wasn't one of these CEOs that was like hired head, hunted from another company. He's like somebody who started low level and rose up. I understand the that the trouble that. And there was some insider trading stuff that, that had started to circulate and there was some AI stuff where it was like they were using a company. This is just going to be my memory and I could be wrong about the numbers here, but they were using an AI company to say yes or no to things and was proven the AI company was like 90% wrong and they were still using it anyway even while knowing that like that that's something that I read. But there's going to be so much misinformation out there now because people just want to get clicks that now it's like we'll just wait and see. But the problem is with wait and see is. Okay, we're still waiting to see what happened. Jeffrey Epstein. And you know what he did that was from the inside or he was murdered. That was for sure from the inside. The cops murdered the cops. Take a break. They turned the cameras off. So who knows what we know except this guy. Also, you don't really know what your CEO is doing. Like let's say you work at the company and he was speaking at this conference and it was known, but he was there way early. Like, you don't know. It wasn't like it was said, this guy's going to be here on this day because it wasn't the day he was talking. There's just a lot of things that don't allow you to have the full scope of what's happening. Because we only are. We only know what we're being told.

[Unknown]

Because it's sort of like, okay, was this guy professional or not? Because it seems like some of the stuff he would have to know or how he would have to know what he knew would be really a little more professional. Ish.

[Jourdan]

I would say that you can be in the know without being professional.

[Unknown]

Okay.

[Jourdan]

And also have some skills.

[Unknown]

Okay. So it's like not.

[Jourdan]

Or just be in the know and hire somebody who is like a drug addict that will do anything for drugs or money because they're in a bad place. And you know what they do? This is what happens with a lot of these, is that they will hire somebody. I say they. I'll just use that generically. That they'll hire somebody with a situation like this and they'll pay them and they'll give them, and then they'll make sure they OD on the drugs afterwards. So there's no trail back to the. I'm not saying that's this one, but that does happen as well. Then you never know because, like, that.

[Unknown]

That really happens. In real life or just on tv?

[Jourdan]

No. Oh, I don't know. On TV that happens. Oh, in real life that happens. It's a sucky story. And I couldn't believe it happened right there. And then I was thinking, what about the people that saw it happen? And I was like, what if I saw it happen? What would I do? Run.

[John Paul]

Yeah. Shots fire, you run.

[Jourdan]

It's like, guess people are like, why didn't someone just jump and take him down? And then I think, let me think about what I would do. I'd run. You don't.

[John Paul]

You don't know who those people are.

[Unknown]

Or where it was like. And exactly where it was coming from. Maybe you hear it and then you're like, oh, is that. If it's. Oh, it's.

[Jourdan]

A silencer, too.

[Unknown]

Yeah, true.

[Jourdan]

They were right there. Like, they saw. Because again, it's 10ft. So people that saw him. Silencer doesn't mean that makes no noise.

[Unknown]

Right.

[Jourdan]

But a bullet goes faster.

[Unknown]

Suppressor. That's a better way to put it. Suppressor.

[Jourdan]

Because TV gives you a wrong impression of silencers. For the most Part. So anyway, that story sucks. I feel terrible for the family there because he's in such a high position. There are a thousand different theories as to why or what.

[John Paul]

Yeah.

[Jourdan]

Or how.

[Unknown]

Yeah. Could it. Do you think there's any. I mean, I don't. I was reading about the. Him being investigated for the insider trading, whatever. Could it have been an inside job of.

[Kate Max]

He.

[Unknown]

They're worried he was going to squeal. Like he was going to say, hey, this is what's happening.

[Jourdan]

Sure.

[Unknown]

How does this guy know that he's coming out that door that early in the morning?

[Jourdan]

And if he waited for hours and hours and the conference was in that hotel. Right. There is bits of intel that would lead you to think that. But you're right, do. Yes. That could be one. But I mean.

[Unknown]

Yeah, I was just.

[Jourdan]

I'm not attaching myself to a theory because I know nothing except what's being told here. And then I know what I don't know, and that's most of it, but that if I were an inch like a CEO of a different insurance company today, I would have full security around me big time.

[Unknown]

And they. They said he bought bottled water and two bars from the Starb Bucks. And they did find a bottle of water in the alleyway where the gun was or the phone. So they think that that bottle of water is his. So they're going to test it for DNA.

[John Paul]

Okay.

[Jourdan]

And if they find DNA on it, this guy was not a professional.

[Unknown]

Right. And also, did he use Apple Pay or cash?

[Jourdan]

Probably cash. Unless he's just.

[Unknown]

That's what I want to know. Like how.

[Jourdan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Unknown]

And firearm experts thinks it is someone that has military or a lot of gun training because the way it jams and the way they are able to jam it.

[Jourdan]

So him doing that was him having weapons training or a lot of the.

[Unknown]

Calf part, he just got nervous or the gun malfunction.

[Jourdan]

You know, he was definitely shooting a little low and the first one didn't jam.

[Unknown]

The first one shot he was trying to really not.

[Jourdan]

Well, my friends that live in cities think I'm like. Since I'm. They think I'm like the biggest hillbilly and I'm medium hillbilly and have decent gun experience, but never with handguns. And it's like I had a.410 and 12 gauge and 36 when I had a rifle. And so I know like general basic Arkansas gun. Right. Hunting.

[John Paul]

Hunting gun.

[Jourdan]

Yeah. Yeah. I can tell you the difference in all the gauges of shotguns. I can tell you different kinds of birdshot, buckshot, slug. I can do all that. But they're hitting me up like I'm some gun expert to give analysis. I'm like, guys, I'm a hillbilly with guns. I don't know about. The only thing that I could tell you was he knew and has used a weapon at how calm he unjammed the thing because it did jam. And a lot of times they jam with a silent with the suppressor because that's not common. So anyway, we'll move off because I'm wildly uneducated on it. I just want to talk about the story, and that sucks. And I hope they figure it out. That's it for me. You want to take a minute roll real quick?

[John Paul]

Yeah, let's do it.

[Jourdan]

Okay, let's do the mid roll here. Boom.

[Kate Max]

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[John Paul]

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[Kate Max]

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[Jourdan]

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[Kate Max]

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[Jourdan]

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[Kate Max]

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[Jourdan]

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[Jourdan]

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[John Paul]

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[Jourdan]

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[Jourdan]

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[Unknown]

A story I can't stop thinking about. It's not a new shooting. It's something that happened years back. But DATELINE just released a podcast about it, and it's about this guy that shot two teenagers that broke into his home.

[Jourdan]

Okay, what's the problem?

[Unknown]

The problem is why I can't stop thinking about it is he's in jail for the rest of his life for murder.

[Jourdan]

So a couple questions. He didn't know them. They broke into his home.

[Unknown]

Right.

[Jourdan]

So I'm not confused on that. Were they running away from his home, like in his yard and he shot him?

[Unknown]

No, he was waiting for them in the basement because I guess his home had been broken into leading up to that. And he. He had guns himself and two guns were stolen. So he was an older man who was obviously scared for his life. And he set sort of like the way they presented it in court were like he set this up as a trap. Like he made it seem like his home was empty, he wasn't there. He parked his truck down the road and then he was waiting in the basement for whoever was breaking in. He didn't know who it was going to be. And when they came down, he didn't even wait to see their face. He just shot the first kid. And then his cousin, a girl like was looking for him and she was like waiting for him to come out. She starts to go down the stairs. He shoots her. Well, the problem is I think maybe he had started to go a little bit, you know, something was not right because he was like recording this.

[Jourdan]

He probably broke into his house before though. And these people had broken into his house. Correct.

[Unknown]

And so he was there. They pitch it as sort of. Don't quote me on the exact words, but premeditated in a sense because he was sitting and waiting and he set a trap.

[Jourdan]

But again, what's the but they broke in?

[John Paul]

Yes.

[Unknown]

Like they broke in and these are I think good kids making a bad choice. And I felt bad for the family talking in the podcast and whatnot. But I just thought, man, what would. How I just keep thinking about if I was on the jury, what would I do?

[Jourdan]

Not be guilty if it's what.

[Unknown]

Yeah, but he's in jail for the rest of his life.

[Jourdan]

I wonder why there's some in that case. Like I wonder what they got him for that.

[Unknown]

That audio got him that. The fact that he had the recording, the. It wasn't a video, it was just an audio recording. And he hear him talking to himself beforehand, like, you know, kind of going over like I'm gonna get him or you know, talking about that. But. But I'm like he's scared and he may. And maybe he was going a little crazy because of it. I would maybe too. But I did another part is he waited cuz he was scared. Apparently his lawyer said after he did it and you have on clip, he went and hid in the closet cuz he didn't know. Are more people coming? Whatnot he didn't report it till the next day. And that's always trouble if somebody's been killed and you don't report it immediately.

[Jourdan]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

So anyway, I can't stop talking about thinking about it.

[Jourdan]

And if not, it's crazy, but there must be something we're missing, because if someone breaks into your house and I feel all threatened, I'm shooting them. Right. I mean, that's it.

[John Paul]

Yeah.

[Jourdan]

If I feel threatened, I'm going to.

[Unknown]

Eliminate the castle doctrine.

[Jourdan]

Sure.

[Unknown]

You have the right to protect your castle.

[Jourdan]

And the only time I've seen people get in trouble, because I don't. I didn't know this story is if people are, like, still on your property and they're like, running away and you still shoot them.

[Unknown]

Right.

[Jourdan]

Even if they're on your property. Like, you can go to jail for that because they are now not a threat and they are eliminating themselves from being a threat.

[Unknown]

Okay. So to that point, the second person, the second teen he ended up shooting, he. He did not need to shoot her multiple times, but he did. And then like, specifically, like in the. But I mean, I think he was. I don't know if you're in that state of mind. I don't know how crazy you are. I just don't know that it's like murder in jail for the rest of your life. Like, maybe you need some mental help. I think he was scared. And when you're in fear and then people are breaking, like they literally broke into the home.

[Jourdan]

So that's the part too where I'm like, I would have been shooting. And you say, do you feel. After my house got broken into two and I had been pistol whipped and had a couple. I was. I was crazy at my house, any noise, I had a gun right beside me. So it's like, he's crazy. You know what makes you crazy? Whenever you feel like you could die at any minute because you've had experiences that have led you to think that you could die at any minute because people have broken in or people have attacked you.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Jourdan]

I just wonder what the jury, like, why the jury? I'd need to see why.

[Unknown]

Like, you could listen to it. I don't know. I mean, it's.

[Jourdan]

The court heard Smith's whispers at the time of the shootings. I don't see them as human. I see them as vermin.

[John Paul]

What does that mean?

[Unknown]

I think he brought, like, a little. In my mind, I was thinking, like, you probably have to convince yourself, like, I've got to protect myself. And right now, if I see them as human. Like, I'm not going to be able to protect my home. And I'm scared, and I'm tired of living scared. So I'm gonna take care of business.

[Jourdan]

Smith's decision earlier on Thanksgiving Day, move his vehicle from the driveway allowed prosecutors to present the idea that he wished to bait the intruders in the act of premeditation. But if you're just moving your car, you're not baiting. It's not like you're piling up presents inside the window going, anybody that can get to these, you can have them.

[John Paul]

And leave the door open.

[Jourdan]

Good luck. Yeah.

[Unknown]

No, they had to break a window to get in.

But he. I guess what they're saying, baiting is by presenting the fact that you're not home knowing.

I mean.

[Kate Max]

Yes, he said it.

[Unknown]

Yes.

[Jourdan]

Just because you present that you're not home does not mean you have the right to break into somebody else.

[Unknown]

I did not. Right. But he had the motive that he was going to kill these people.

[Jourdan]

Premeditated.

[Unknown]

Because he set a trap and said, I'm going to move my truck down the road.

[Jourdan]

That's not a trap.

[John Paul]

Like, if you put your garage. That's a trap. Yeah.

[Jourdan]

That's not a trap in your garage.

[John Paul]

Is different down the street. There's no.

[Unknown]

To make the appearance you're not home. That's saying, I'm gonna put Christmas presents in my car with the windows down and then wait for someone to shoot them.

[Jourdan]

Doesn't make it okay for somebody to break it even if you're not home.

[Unknown]

I didn't say it was okay for them to break in, but to try to lead them to break in for. To give them reason to break in.

Yeah. Because he's tired of living scared. Like. Yes. Like, however you want to put it.

[Jourdan]

Begging someone to break in by saying, I'm not home.

[John Paul]

No.

[Jourdan]

That is extremely irrational.

[Unknown]

It is setting the stage.

That's why the jury found him guilty, because he baited them. He came up with a plan to get them in his house so he could murder them.

[Jourdan]

But he can't plan for them to break into his house. Like they had to break into his house.

[Unknown]

No one had broken into his house multiple times. It was multiple times. If no one had done it ever before, then he wouldn't have been in fear. And when you're in survival mode, you fight flight. Freeze. He was fighting.

[John Paul]

Correct.

[Unknown]

For his own safety. In my opinion, baiting would be, again.

[John Paul]

Big flashing arrow, door wide open.

[Jourdan]

Like, baiting is not something that would happen anyway because he could be gone.

[Unknown]

I just wish he would have been driven. I mean, because these poor, this, these kids, their poor decision to break in when they think it's an innocent thing. I mean, breaking in is not innocent. But. Right. If they think he's not home, they're going to go in, steal some money, steal some whatever, and probably run out.

[Jourdan]

But maybe kill him if they run into him. Right?

[Unknown]

Like, yeah, but that. See, okay. See, I don't think these teens would have. But he didn't know that.

[Jourdan]

But it doesn't matter.

[Unknown]

Two of his guns were previously stolen. So in his mind, he's like, they could come back and use my own weapons against me.

[Jourdan]

And when someone is in a situation of their life, is threatened, they may actually do something that is threatening to yours, even if they did not plan to do that.

[Unknown]

Right. Which is the. Which is where I'm just like, God, like.

[Jourdan]

Yeah, that would. That sucks.

[John Paul]

Like, I have these, like, I'd say every two months, like, these kids come through my neighborhood and they just go through car doors and if they're unlocked, they steal stuff.

[Unknown]

Right? Yeah.

[John Paul]

And I have thought myself, like, I would love to see them doing that. So I can call the cops and like, tell them exactly where they are and they get busted. But, like, I've even thought maybe I get some nails, pop their tires. When they go that way, I throw it all on the road, so when they have to come back down the road, their tires are popped.

[Jourdan]

Then the cops given a kidney, though. Were you really not gonna.

[John Paul]

No, I've literally thought this, but I never know when they're gonna do it.

[Unknown]

He's thought it, Bobby.

[Jourdan]

I know, but he's saying it.

[Unknown]

He's literally thought about donating a kidney too. No, I know you can think all kinds of things.

[Jourdan]

Yeah, that sucks, Amy. And.

[Unknown]

Well, no, I don't. I mean, it's the whole story just was. It happened back in 2012, but for whatever reason, dateline, I don't know the podcast and my heart break for the family of the teenagers. And it's just a.

[Jourdan]

Is there a chance this guy gets released? Because again, depending on how small the town is and you know, there people sometimes running for office make things happen certain ways they win and lose case. You know, there's just a lot happening. And if there's a light shined on it now from back in 2012, obviously I did not know all the facts other than what I'm reading. I'm reading it as we're doing the bit here, but I think not having Your car in front of your house is not bait for someone to break in.

[John Paul]

No chance.

[Unknown]

But the audio was not in his favor. It's not good. And him shooting her multiple times, not good. But again, he wasn't in his right mind because he had somebody threatening you.

[Jourdan]

You're never in your right mind. Correct. And that's crazy. Okay, let's do a couple other things here. So there's that we have our St. Jude radio thon that we have been doing all morning. I do want to bring Jessica on. Is she on the phone or no?

[John Paul]

No, I thought that was going to be for something else.

[Jourdan]

Oh, got it. Oh, got it. We'll do it. We'll do it off the show. Yeah, no problem. So if you are listening to the show and you want to be a partner at Hope, we're going to, we have one of the families we're going to talk to coming up in just a little bit. We want to do the Christmas gift drawing.

[John Paul]

Yes.

[Jourdan]

Because we need to do this now so we know whose is who. So yeah, Kevin can bring all this stuff in.

[John Paul]

This is where we draw our gift cards.

[Jourdan]

Yeah. Oh my gosh. We're going to. Yes. So but we're going to bring them in and actually talk it out for a second because we only have like seven or eight minutes to do this. I'm thinking. So Macy's gave us all these gift cards. The good thing is we have to spending our own money, which we never spent a whole lot anyway because it was always like a $40 limit or something. But Macy's gave us these gift cards and there's one from 10 and I have the key coming in. I will not draw. I will take whichever one is last. That way I have no influence on what bag is what bag, but I will have the key to know what's what. So can I have the key? You can set the bags right there. Thanks, Kevin. What sucks for Kevin is he was in it until we only had eight. Now he's eliminated because there's only eight. He was nine.

[John Paul]

What's the key?

[Jourdan]

The key?

[Unknown]

Teacher key.

[Jourdan]

Like all the answers. Okay, so there's, there's one ten dollar gift card. Oh my gosh.

[John Paul]

You put them in the middle.

[Unknown]

Yeah, one fell into the.

[Jourdan]

There's one $25 gift card. There's one 50. No, there's two 50 gift cards. There's two 75 gift cards. There's a hundred, a 500 and a 1000.

[Unknown]

I mean 500 sounds awesome, but then you go, there's a thousand And I'm just like, I would. 500 doesn't count.

[Jourdan]

Playing the odds here. Hey, did you get the 1001 and a 5001? That's two.

[Unknown]

Not bad.

[Jourdan]

Versus 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 versus 7. So you're looking at a 2 and 7. 500. That odds to get that one is awesome. That's. You want to get them. So first, I'll say this about Macy's. It's the best offer of the season. Take an extra 30% off top gifts, plus 15% off their best beauty brands. They have the perfect gifts this holiday season. Uggs Crocs, a wall of water bottles. Lots of great stocking stuffers. Let Macy's be your guide to gifting. Shop@macy's.com. they do have everything, so. And maybe we don't even draw until tomorrow. We can just draw names now. But here's the thing. I'm not totally set on the most interesting way to do this. I've walked through every scenario in my head. I've walked through. We draw a name. Let's say I draw Amy's name, and then I pull a bag and do. I pull it immediately and go, I only got $10. I've done the thing where it's like, we don't say who we have and we draw the bag, but we know how much money there is on the card.

[John Paul]

There we go.

[Jourdan]

Because then the person does that. That's an interesting wrinkle. I've done the thing where it's. We have the bag and nobody knows who they. Who has. I don't know. Amy, I'm gonna go to you. What do you think the best idea for the most drama? This is a bit. This is not real. This is not.

[Unknown]

You want me to pick which one's gonna be the most drama? Ask Lunchbox.

[Jourdan]

No, I'm not asking him because he's rageful and irrational. I'm asking you because I don't think I'm irrational. It's for the most compelling part of the bit. Like, what's the best way to do this as a fun. Fun doesn't mean everybody has a good time. But for the listeners to go like, oh, my God, I can't believe that. What's the most suspenseful way to do this? Where you.

[Unknown]

I think that you capitalize on two moments of suspense. The first moment being you find out right away what the dollar amount is for whatever person. And then it'll be funny to see what they end up getting like with that.

[Jourdan]

But what about knowing who the person is like, what, in your version?

[Unknown]

Yeah, like, if it's. Okay, so I guess how.

[Jourdan]

Because I have in my head, I have it drawn out exactly how I do it. But I want to hear your word before you say that.

[Unknown]

Well, here's what I'm thinking. Like, you. Like I say I draw lunchbox.

[Jourdan]

So you draw a name first.

[Unknown]

I draw the name first. It's like, oh, I got Lunchbox. And then I draw my gift card, and I'm like, it's $10.

[Jourdan]

So you want to know that that's out there.

[Unknown]

Yes. And then it'll be fun to find out later what I got for $10 for him. Because it's like a double, because otherwise we're waiting and then I' to give him the thing I got for $10. And it's going to be like, oh, you find both of those things out at the same time.

[Jourdan]

So I'm 50% with you on that. I think we draw the name and I think we draw the. If you say. Because it's just not interesting. If I draw you and then I say I have $10 for you, I don't even care to hear what you get for $10.

[Unknown]

Right.

I do.

It already lost the luster.

[Kate Max]

What?

[Jourdan]

The luster of the. That is gone.

[Unknown]

Okay.

As the guy that's full of rage and irrational. If you told me right away, I'd lose interest. If you told me $10 right away.

[Jourdan]

Where. If it's like I draw somebody and. And we don't say what the gift card amount is.

[Unknown]

Okay.

And then you're waiting until we do the day, and you're sitting there the.

[Jourdan]

Day, even when they open the present.

[Unknown]

What if the person doesn't know, but the listeners do?

[Jourdan]

Maybe.

[Unknown]

What if it's like.

[Jourdan]

Hold on, let me finish. Let me finish the explanation here.

[Unknown]

Okay, Sorry, I got excited.

[Jourdan]

I think what it is, is draw the name, get the gift. You draw the gift card, but you don't say what the. How much it is. They open the gift without knowing how much the gift card was until after they opened the gift. And then it's like, I had X amount of dollars. Morgan, you saying something?

[Unknown]

Or the reverse could also be that.

[Jourdan]

We don't say who we get. We say what our gift card is. That's basically the same. But yes, it's that we're leaving one of the elements unknown.

[John Paul]

So you.

[Jourdan]

But if we draw the name and we have the name, we know, like, who's our friend or enemy already. Yeah, because. Because what makes it interesting is if lunchbox gets you or you get Lunchbox, because he's just gonna be pissed.

[John Paul]

But the power is interesting. The power is interesting.

[Jourdan]

Like, but if you don't have the power over who is, it doesn't matter.

[John Paul]

Yeah, but everyone's gonna want to hope that that power is for a certain person.

[Jourdan]

That's a good point, too.

[Unknown]

Yeah. I don't know.

[Jourdan]

Okay, so we're gonna do. Because we have to go. We're gonna straw names today only. We're not gonna draw bags.

[Kate Max]

Wait, But I won't be here tomorrow.

[Jourdan]

We'll draw names. It's a good point.

[G]

So we have to do.

[H]

I will.

[Jourdan]

No, we don't. You can just do yours.

[John Paul]

Okay, today.

[Jourdan]

Just. Morgan will do hers today. So do we have something for names? We had a wheel. Great. Do we have time? Yeah, I can put everybody's name on it. Yeah, bring it in. It's just we got to keep spinning it and pull names. It's fine with me. We have an interview in, like, five minutes. Yeah, let's do this. Don't worry about that. Who are the names on the thing? Just read the names of other people participating, please.

[Unknown]

I don't know.

[Jourdan]

Oh, yeah, do Amy. Just, like, read them so I can write. I don't know. Yes, it's on the way. Okay, Amy. Thank you, Morgan. All right, hold on. Bobby. Lunchboxing. We're bringing a new character for this.

[Unknown]

Well, you said there was someone was in Lunchbox.

[Jourdan]

Tiffany. Lunchbox.

[Unknown]

I think we can spin.

[Jourdan]

Berth. Mike D. Mike D. Go ahead. Abby. Abby.

[Unknown]

Rick.

[Jourdan]

Murray.

[Unknown]

Well, he said Kevin was in. Kevin's never been in.

[Jourdan]

Done.

[Unknown]

And, Morgan, just spin. It's right there.

[Jourdan]

2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. That's nine people.

[John Paul]

Should be nine. Yeah.

[Jourdan]

We have nine gift cards.

[John Paul]

Becky. Nine.

[Jourdan]

Okay. Okay, so, Amy, you're gonna go first. Pick a number one through nine. Nine, you have Scuba Steve.

[Unknown]

Okay.

[Jourdan]

Lunchbox. Pick a number. Four, you have Amy. I'm gonna take a picture on my sheet, though, by the way, so you guys don't think I'm changing anything.

[Unknown]

Lunchbox.

[Jourdan]

Boom. Got it. Okay. Lunchbox is Amy. Okay. Morgan.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Jourdan]

Pick a number. Two, you have Ray. Hey, Ray. Eddie, if you need to know the numbers that are left.

[John Paul]

I got it.

[Jourdan]

Go ahead.

[John Paul]

Number three.

[Jourdan]

That's me. Mike D. What's left? One. Five, six, seven, and eight. Okay, I'll take one. You have Abby. You've already picked Amy. Yep.

[Unknown]

I got.

Oh, man. I got Scuba Ray. Man, they got. I got a chance.

[John Paul]

Pick crazy. Eight.

[Jourdan]

Eight, you have Eddie.

[John Paul]

Okay.

[Jourdan]

Crap.

[Unknown]

Come on, Ray.

[Jourdan]

Ray Mundo, get me. You have Scuba. No, Scuba's already on the list.

[John Paul]

Amy has me.

[Unknown]

I have him.

[Jourdan]

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, so there's only eight, then.

[John Paul]

Wait, that should be nine.

[Jourdan]

Did you. Oh, Morgan. That's Morgan. That's Morgan. That's Morgan. You have Morgan. That's right. That's Morgan. And then there's two left. Ray, have you picked a number? There's two left. There's six and seven, and then, Abby, you'll pick.

[Unknown]

I think Ray just picked.

[Jourdan]

Oh, you did pick. You have Morgan.

[Unknown]

Wait, I have Ray.

[Jourdan]

So Ray has me also. Ray, do you have more? Okay, so you guys have each other. The odds of that were happening were 10%. So I have a pick, and Abby has a pick, and I. Mike, you can look so you can see what the numbers are, so I'm not cheating or anything. Abby, you can pick number six or number seven. Seven. You have Mike D. Bobby has me, and I have Lunchbox.

[Unknown]

And he's the most honest person in the world. So when he gets that thousand, I'm getting all thousand dollars.

[Jourdan]

You don't know that.

[John Paul]

You don't know that.

[Unknown]

Yeah, you're gonna have to bring proof of receipt.

[Jourdan]

Yeah, but here's another wrinkle. Do you have to spend the whole card?

[Unknown]

You don't.

[Jourdan]

I say no. I think the option is you. You don't have to.

[Unknown]

You don't have to.

[Jourdan]

We'll talk about it. We'll talk about it. These are rules. We're inventing a new game because, you.

[Unknown]

Know, if Lunchbox gets, I have him. If I get the thousand. So you're saying he could get me something for, like, 20 bucks and keep 980.

[Jourdan]

I'm thinking that could be a wrinkle.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Jourdan]

Morgan, I need you to draw a bag.

[Unknown]

You know he will.

[Jourdan]

And then just draw the bag and take it with you. Tell me the number. You don't open it. Just tell me the number. You're picking nine. Okay? And so I'm the only one that knows how much that is. I don't want you to look in it. Just give it to Scuba Steve until you get back. Okay. From your trip. But we know which one is yours. Your number is nine. Nine. Nine. All right. Nine. All right, let's do this. Is Fisher. We're gonna play this from the show this morning. Be a partner. Hope if you can. Here's Fisher and his mom talking about. Fisher went to St. Jude and St. Jude's awesome. And we've spent, you know, today's show and tomorrow's show raising Money for the hospital, because that's what's up. And we'll just go to the interview now. Thanks.

[Unknown]

The Bobby Bone show and the B.

[Jourdan]

Team giving St. Jude kids the greatest gift. Hope.

[Kate Max]

1-800-795-1800.

[Jourdan]

That's the number you can call to become a partner in Hope. We'll get back to that number in just a second. Heck, I'll say it again. 1-800-795-1800. Special guests in studio now, Fisher and his mom, Falena and Fisher, how old are you, buddy?

[G]

Eleven.

[Jourdan]

Eleven years old? Yeah. So how long you been 11 exactly? I know.

[G]

A year.

[Jourdan]

A whole year. Are you about to have a birthday?

[G]

Yeah. Oh, December 19th.

[Jourdan]

Let's go. Okay, that's coming up quick. Maybe I'll give you a present or something before you leave. You want a present? I don't know what I have, but I probably got something. Huh. So Fisher has brain cancer, right?

[G]

Had.

[Jourdan]

Had. Okay, good. Because this is why I want your mom. Will you tell me about the process? Like, how you learned, like the very early on how you learned Fisher had something like the cancer. You later realized it was cancer. But how that happened.

[Unknown]

It started off with just a few random headaches, and it progressed really fast. It went from a few random. The next week was every morning. The following week was every morning and every afternoon. And then that following week, on Wednesday, he got sick at school. So they called me to go get him. They thought he had a stomach bug. But when I picked him up, he was like, mom, this headache. So we went to urgent care who told us it was a sinus infection. And I was like, he's just not a complainer. So I scheduled him to see his regular pediatrician. On the Friday he was passing all of his neurological tests. He showed no symptoms of, like, a balance, inconsistency or anything. So she kind of felt the same. That, you know, in baby, it is his sinuses. Give it a couple more days.

[Jourdan]

Did you feel they were wrong? Like, as a mom, did you feel that? They probably didn't have a total grasp.

[Unknown]

Of it in my gut. I don't know. There was just a part of me that was like something's just not right. But I don't know. We're just a pretty laid back family, so I didn't throw up any immediate red flags for sure.

[Jourdan]

Were the headaches different than, like a normal headache?

[G]

Not really.

[Jourdan]

So. So there was no reason for you to think other than you'd probably. It could have been sinuses or something. Right.

[G]

The only thing that I thought is, why am I getting them every day consistently?

[Jourdan]

Because you've never had that happen.

[G]

Never.

[Jourdan]

So then what do you do after they say sinus infection?

[Unknown]

We were just gonna take them antibiotics and give it a couple more days. But on the Saturday, we couldn't get the headache to go away. He was miserable. We tried to make a trip to the camp thinking, you know, if it is migraines that are starting from him kind of getting older, maybe if we.

[Jourdan]

Distract him, what's the camp?

[Unknown]

Our deer camp got him. So we, you know, thought, let's get a distraction for the weekend. And on the way there, he was in so much pain that I was like, this is clearly not a sinus headache. We made it there for an hour or two, loaded back up, and had my husband just drop us off at the door of the er.

[Jourdan]

Okay, so they want to know, okay, you've had headaches, and you tell them you went to the urgent care. You went to the doctor. This is what they've said. So what do they do? That's different.

[Unknown]

In the lobby, he kind of stumbled, and I got a little alarmed. So I went and tell the nurse, like, that's unusual. Something's not right. I guess we were just blessed by that nurse. She kind of pushed the issue quick. And within about 10 minutes, we were in the back. He had already had his ct and they were starting an iv, and they had already given him, like, pain medicine. And within 45 minutes of being there, the doctor came in and told us that he had a mass on his brain and that there was an ambulance waiting for us to be transported.

[Jourdan]

What do you remember about that, Fisher, that day, like, the hospital and all that? What do you remember?

[G]

All I really remember is getting out of the camper, walking in, going to sleep, and waking up in a room, really.

[Jourdan]

And it's going to be hard to describe the emotion, but when they say there's something on his brain, like, what do you think? As a mom?

[Unknown]

It was like, I think I was just stunned. There was a part of me, like I said, that had that kind of gut feeling that, like, something wasn't right, but I never thought that. And it was just so much to take in, and it went so fast.

[Jourdan]

Where did they take him from there?

[Unknown]

They took him to the St. Jude affiliate in Baton Rouge. It was about midnight when they got us there.

[Jourdan]

And what happens when you arrive there? Do they go to work immediately trying to figure out what.

[Unknown]

They had doctors waiting already that were there to talk to us. Multiple doctors. They already had A game plan already had him on the schedule for in the morning, what was going to happen. Their goal for that night was just to make sure he stayed comfortable and to get a team together for the morning.

[Jourdan]

I imagine you didn't sleep much.

[Unknown]

Yeah, just it was an unusual feeling. Like yesterday I was looking back because yesterday was one year that we walked into the er, so like, to walk in and read the oncology floor, like, you never think, wow, this is going to be me and, you know, my child walking through an oncology floor. So I remember, like that night when he was sleeping, it just kept, like, I just kept replaying when you walk through, you know, it's that St. Jude affiliate, but it's the oncology floor.

[Jourdan]

And it had to be like, is this even real?

[Kate Max]

It.

[Unknown]

I think it took a couple days.

[Jourdan]

Yeah. Like, it. Like what? Because you're right. You never actually picture it being you or even worse, your kid.

[Unknown]

Like, I remember my grandmother, my entire life with the St. Jude kids on her refrigerator because, you know, she would donate and never in a million years do you think, wow, that might be my kid's picture.

[Jourdan]

You know, when do they. And what do they tell you? Like the next day or the next couple days when they can give you more information about it.

[Unknown]

They told us the mass was stable, that he wasn't bleeding or anything. His situation was rather critical because there was so much the pressure that he was holding in his head could have started causing life threatening things like on the spot.

[Jourdan]

And that's the headache. The pressure, yes. Of the 10 masses, that's the headache. And that's why it hurts so bad.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Jourdan]

Wow. So. And I have a lot more I want to get to, but officially wearing a cowboy hat. There I saw some signatures. Who is that? What's happening?

[G]

Sam Hunt.

[Jourdan]

You met Lainey Wilson at Sam Hunt.

[G]

Yes.

[Jourdan]

Where'd you meet them?

[G]

Laney was the exact day on my last chemo. Sam was. They're both at St. Jude.

[Jourdan]

That's pretty cool.

[Unknown]

That's awesome.

[Jourdan]

Do you like Lanny? You big Laney fan? Yeah, she's pretty awesome. So, okay, here's what we're gonna do here. And by the way, if you're listening and we're gonna talk more about specifically St. Jude in just a second, you can become a partner in hope and help people like Fisher. You can text 1-800-795-1800. I guess you call that number now. 1-800-795-1800. Call the number. We have a phone bank here. Are ready to answer. $19 a month to help the kids at St. Jude fight cancer because no family receives a bill because of people like you that are listening. 1-800-795-1800. Do you have a favorite Lanny Wilson song?

[G]

One of my really good friends that I met there, it was Wild horses and wildflowers.

[Jourdan]

That's a good one.

[G]

She was there in music therapy. They let her make her own song. She called it A Wild Ride Through.

[Jourdan]

Radiation, the Bobby bones show, and St. Jude. You guys can become a partner in Hope. So I'll give you the number to call, and then I'll give you the number to text later. But the number to call. We have people standing by right now. 1-800-795-1800. Become a partner and hope. $19 a month and you will help kids at St. Jude fight cancer. And I don't just say those words. Like, we have Fisher here, who is 11. He's about to be 12, though, like, almost immediately. Hey, life changes when you're 12. Do you know that? Like, armpit. You can't even stop your armpit hair from growing. It grows so much. You can have down to your knees in, like, a day. Don't scare him, man.

[John Paul]

You don't scare them.

[Jourdan]

I'm just saying 12 is a whole different ballgame. Fisher had brain cancer. And we were talking with Falana, his mom, a few minutes ago, and we got to the point where you were at, like, the St. Jude affiliate in Baton Rouge. At what point did the doctor say, hey, we want to send you to St. Jude in Memphis? Like, how does that conversation happen?

[Unknown]

When they made a game plan that they were going to go ahead and do his first brain surgery to remove the tumor on the front of his brain, they said, we're going to do this. He'll be stable, and then we're going to send everything to St. Jude and have their team look at it, and then you'll get a better game plan. So we did the surgery the following day, and then they told us, oh, you'll have about two weeks before. It was holidays. It was Thanksgiving break. We were about 10 minutes from home, and one of their doctors called and said, we need you to turn around, man. He's, you know, he's got one of tumors that's going to cause an issue. He gave us till. He said, I need you, you know, on the road by like 2am so.

[Jourdan]

Wow, where do you live?

[Unknown]

Do you live in South Louisiana?

[Jourdan]

So do you start? Because I think what I would start doing is Googling everything About the brain. I mean, I'm. I'd be an expert. The cerebellum. The cerebrum. Yes, yes. And probably getting myself in trouble, like learning.

[Unknown]

You do?

[Jourdan]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

Before we had our team conference with the doctors, you know, everybody's like, don't go down that rabbit hole. But as a parent, you can't, not because you want to know, you know, how do you fix it? And you do you read all the things that you probably shouldn't read. For his case, his cancer type is. It's. It, like, it's a lot. It can go many different ways. There's all subgroups and subtypes and markers. And you kind of, you know, I have no medical background at all.

[Jourdan]

And it's the brain. Right. It's the brain, which we know nothing. I mean, I know nothing about the brain. It's. We know nothing very little about the brain. And so I can understand where a lot of anxiety would set in because of just in general cancer with your kid.

[Unknown]

Yep.

[Jourdan]

But then brain.

[Unknown]

And then they tell you, like, like any of the surgeries, we don't know what's going to come out of it. Not just the cancer, but what side effects is he going to have? Will he be able to walk again?

[Jourdan]

When you get to St. Jude Fisher in Memphis, what's that like?

[G]

Giant, Very big. Most of the people, all of the people there, they. They don't look like they're not happy. Not a day that I was there. No one's not happy to be there. Even if they are inside, they don't show in it at all.

[Jourdan]

Such a positive vibe.

[G]

Yeah.

[Jourdan]

And you get there and like the doctors, like, how do they talk to you?

[G]

Pretty calm, collected.

[Jourdan]

Yeah. The fact that you were collected at 11, amazing. I just learned that like last year to say collected. Look at you. So tell me about like the process, like, what starts to happen. How long were you there? Total?

[G]

Two months in 23. And then we had the break for Christmas that we went back for my birthday and Christmas and then we were there for 10 months. So. Right. About.

[Jourdan]

About a year. All in.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Jourdan]

Did you make a lot of friends there?

[G]

Oh, yeah.

[Jourdan]

Really?

[G]

Yes.

[Jourdan]

A lot of kids that are going through similar things. What do you guys do there for fun?

[G]

I mean, around there you. Sometimes you can get free and go places, but most of it, they have their second floor. It is been too long since it's been there. What?

[Unknown]

Makerspace.

[G]

Makerspace. There's music lounge. They have 3D printers. They always have like different crafts out every day. They Have a wood engraver, vinyl stuff.

[Jourdan]

It's a lot of stuff for you to do. Oh yeah. When you say go free, like they don't let you go to like Beale street, like hang out. No, you're all coming like 10 or 11. Got it.

[G]

Like the put put places.

[Jourdan]

We talk a lot about how when people become a partner in hope, which is why we, we do these shows, which is why we've done it for years, that the 19amonth goes to help the kids at St. Jude fight cancer and the families never receive a bill. Can you speak on that? Never receiving a bill. Part of it.

[Unknown]

I can't imagine going through the day to days of keeping track of the medicines or the appointments or what's working or what's not working and then on the back end worrying how are we going to pay? You know, it's a lot there, but there's no stress, nothing you're not worried about. You know, simple things of like, can we go eat out tonight? Because that's what he's hungry for. Because they allow you to have your entire focus on your child. I was never worried about, you know what Bill is my husband getting at home. You know, how is this going to affect our family long term? Will we ever come out of it? Because we knew that him being here, not only was he getting taken care of, you know, but that our family was going to be able to keep it together.

[Jourdan]

And that's why we encourage you guys that are listening that if you can become a partner in hope, the $19 makes such a difference. So you can call 800-795-1800. We got people here waiting. You'll get the black crew neck sweatshirt. It says Pimp and Joy. It's the Bobby Bone show. So what about whenever you guys did chemo, radiation, how long was that? And just from knowing other people that have gone through it, it's terrible for everybody involved. How long did you have to do it and how intense was it that.

[Unknown]

For him they chose six weeks of radiation. It was 30 rounds with 20 being all over and the last 10 being aimed directly at the tumors remaining. His cancer was higher risk and it was being aggressive. So they chose to add chemo with that. So every day he woke up and did chemo and then went to do radiation, after which you don't see that often with children. And then he got a short break and then we started the hard chemo. That was four chemos or three chemos together over a four day span. He would do that and then as soon as his body showed like it was recovering, they would just start another round.

[Jourdan]

At what point did you feel like we are progressing, like we might actually do this?

[Unknown]

I got hopeful when a couple weeks after radiation ended, they said we were seeing a response. So be hopeful that even though he was stage three, we're seeing a response. So that was probably our first turning point, and I think it was what gave us, you know, something to look forward to and help us through that next couple months that were pretty hard.

[Jourdan]

When did you finish chemo, Fisher?

[G]

First round or second round?

[Jourdan]

All done. When were you all done? The last. In the last few months?

[G]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

August.

[Jourdan]

Did you do it ring a bell?

[G]

I was asking them. They didn't have one.

[Jourdan]

What?

[Unknown]

He was very upset. Over no bail?

[Jourdan]

No.

[G]

I saw a video of it, and the second it was done, I'm like, where's my bell?

[Jourdan]

Exactly. How did it feel to finish it?

[G]

Amazing. I got to go do the things with my friends that I've always done.

[Jourdan]

That's the best part about being home and. Yeah. Not having to worry about that anymore. What's your favorite memory from being at St. Jude?

[G]

There's a lot.

[Jourdan]

Give me a couple. There are no wrong answers here.

[G]

Mean Laney, meeting Sam. Probably meeting a lot of my friends there.

[Jourdan]

Yeah. Pretty cool how they keep that environment, huh?

[G]

Yeah.

[Jourdan]

Like, it kind of sucks. Let's be honest. That why people are there. But it's such a positive place with everyone that is there. What would you tell another kid, Fisher, that's listening right now, if they're starting to go through something like this?

[G]

You. You're the one that knows what to say.

[Jourdan]

I don't.

[Unknown]

If one of your friends.

[Jourdan]

Yeah. What if one of your. One of. One of your friends. What would. Any case, they're like, what to worry about? Yeah. What would you say?

[G]

They're nothing to worry about.

[Jourdan]

Like, St. Jude's got you.

[G]

Yeah.

[Jourdan]

That's awesome. What would you say? Oh, you know what's great? I just keep thinking about that your. Your. The magnet on the fridge or like, your grandma's fridge that have St. Jude kids.

[Unknown]

It's hard. Even now we get home and I've gotten two since we've been home, and it's kids that we met that were living in the same housing as us.

[Jourdan]

You know, that are now on. Like them. Yes.

[Unknown]

And it's pictures. It's the most unusual feeling, but, like, it hurts your heart to see them and then realize, you know, like, it's not just a picture. Like, it was a kid we met and we played outside and drove remote controls with or. And there's just no way for people to know that kid's story, you know.

[Jourdan]

And to a lot of parents out there, I would say most, I think, wow, this probably will never happen to me. I mean, that was you who thought this, like, this would never happen to you. This just happens in, like, on tv.

[Unknown]

Absolutely.

[Jourdan]

But it did. And if someone's listening now, they're thinking about it being a partner in hope, like, what would you. What would you ask them?

[Unknown]

That you please consider this. There's no way to describe watching your child go through the treatment that they need, but not having to worry about if you can pay for what's going to save their life. I will forever be grateful for that.

[Jourdan]

So if you're listening now, you can text the word Bobby to 785833, click the link from St. Jude to donate. That link is okay to click. If you text the word Bobby, which is my name, to 785833, you'll get a link from St. Jude. Click the link, fill it out. For 19 bucks a month, you can help kids like fisher at St. Jude Fight Cancer. Another great thing is any of the research they do, they share it openly and freely with everybody. Every hospital, everyone. So. So even if you know, you're. You're. You're not at St. Jude and you're at a hospital somewhere else, like, that research that these, you know, people that are listening, that become partners, that they're funding, it goes out to help other kids all around the country. So, Fisher, you're pretty cool, kid. You never know. Some kids aren't that cool. You're pretty cool, man. I gotta admit, you're pretty cool. Happy birthday.

[G]

Thank you.

[Jourdan]

It's pretty cool. I get to be 12 now. Remember the armpit hair thing? You already odorant. Okay, good. Because some kids don't wear deodorant because they're like, my armpits don't stink yet. But, like, now it's time. I'm just gonna be that guy. I'm gonna be your friend and let you know, like, it's time to start wearing deodorant, even if it doesn't smell that bad. But not too much cologne. Do you ever work alone?

[G]

Oh, my gosh. My brother.

[Jourdan]

Oh, he. Okay, so you know what it's like then. You know what the breathe in the car. Yeah, yeah. Okay.

[G]

Of cologne that are extremely strong and you're only supposed to, like, touch it.

[Jourdan]

One little one. What's he do? How old's he he's like.

[G]

He's 14.

[Jourdan]

Okay.

[G]

He, like, holds it down bad.

[Jourdan]

You have an example, then you can do a little cologne, but don't do the holding it down. I feel like you're a smart guy. You got this.

[Unknown]

You can spray it and then walk through it.

[Jourdan]

And only once, and only on special occasions, mostly deodorant. But then if it's like, you know, you got something, do a little cologne. Big day, you know, big up here. Maybe you wear a little cologne. You know, I don't. I don't ever work along.

[G]

Okay, so this is every day for you, though.

[Jourdan]

I know, but it's, like, pretty special. I get to meet people like you. This is pretty cool for me. Pretty cool day for me. You're out there. You're listening. Now become a partner in Hope, the number 1-800-795-1800. Or text the word Bobby to 785833. Thank you guys for coming up.

[Unknown]

Thank you.

[Jourdan]

You have made such a difference. I know you may just be thinking by yourself and buy these goofballs show, but, like, you have made such a difference in being up here, sharing your story. And I think this and people hearing this, I mean, will be the version of somebody singing on a refrigerator. And one day that, you know. You know, the world works in weird ways. All right, Fisher, I'm gonna be watching for you. What do you want to do when you grow up? What's the deal?

[G]

I'm hoping to either exceed my dream and be a professional motor. Not motocross, Enduro racer.

[Jourdan]

Okay. I don't know. I know motocross. I don't know what enduro is.

[G]

It's.

[Jourdan]

Is it, like long time riding a bike for like, hours and days, like.

[Unknown]

Racing through the woods.

[Jourdan]

Oh, like cross country running, but for motorcycles.

[G]

Yeah, but motocross is. Tracks, see everything. And it's only for, like five minutes. My races are the younger kids. It's like 20 minutes. Races that I do, it's like 45 minutes.

[Jourdan]

They're wimps compared to you. Keep going. Yeah. You got this. So that's what you want to do?

[H]

Yeah.

[Jourdan]

You have a bike. One time, my friend had a moped, I got on it. You know, moped is. It's like a weenie bike.

[G]

Yeah.

[Jourdan]

Yeah. I wrecked it like five minutes. Fell over immediately. Never got on it again. So I'm scared of those. You're. But you're a bigger dude than I am. Okay, Fisher, you're the man. Flanny. Thank you so much. Everybody out there, become a partner and hope, if you can. If you can't afford it right now, we totally get it. If you can. You're looking for a reason to help change lives. 1-800-795-1800, and we'll be back. Wakey, wakey, eggs and baking. It's time for the Bobby Bones pre show. Here's your host, Bones. That's on me.

[John Paul]

You weren't ready.

[Jourdan]

No, it wasn't that. I think I explained it to Ray wrong. Oh, yeah, I think I explained it to you. Keep us up. I think I explained it to Ray wrong. Did anybody hear my explanation?

[Kate Max]

No, you said just do a normal intro.

[Jourdan]

Okay, that's what I thought. And I think Ray thought normal intro was pretty sure I meant regular morning show because we're doing two shows, right? We have the St. Jude show, and some of our affiliates can't carry the St. Jude Show. And also I want our podcast listeners to have content for today as well. And so I was not as descriptive as I should have been. I said, ray, give me the normal Bobby Bone show morning intro that they hear at the front of the podcast. I think what Ray heard was give me the morning the pre show. So you know what? That's on me.

[John Paul]

Sounded good, Ray.

[Jourdan]

Yeah, no, it sounded great. I was confused. Yeah. Hit it. Hit it. Hey, welcome to Thursday show morning studio Morning. Okay, so we're doing the St. Jude radio thon. That's not this show. This is going to be content that we would have done had we not done the St. Jude radio a thon. But we appreciate every single partner in Hope. We'll give you a chance to be a partner in Hope in this as well, because we kind of hang our hats on this. We're very passionate about it, and we hope you guys, for 19 bucks a month, can be a partner in Hope. I can actually give you the number, and then I got a lot of stuff to talk about. But if you want to text and be a partner in Hope, which you can all the way through Sunday, I think you can text the word Bobby to 785833. And so become a partner in hope. Text the word Bobby to 785833. You get a pimp and Joy sweatshirt that's made just for today. You. You really do. It does help. I mean, parents don't pay bills. There are no bills for travel or housing or food. And so more of that to come. But we are very passionate about it. We spent two days, you know, of the show doing it. So if you can become a partner and Hope that would be awesome. I'd like to say I haven't had a meal in three days. M E A L meal. I know I say that a little Southern. I've had a stomach bug for about three days, and I'm like 60% better, which is great, because you know how, Amy, when you're sick for a long time and then you finally are just a little less sick, you're like, hallelujah, I feel great. Like, run a marathon. Like, you feel so good. And so there's a bit whenever I, like, push to talk. We were doing, like, commercials and stuff, and you got to have a little more energy. I had to pause and be like, oh, I might throw up or I might puma pants.

[John Paul]

That'd be terrible.

[Jourdan]

It will be terrible. Not too good to say. It's happened before and recently, so. But I'm feeling pretty good. But I haven't had a real meal in three days. Crackers, that type thing.

[Unknown]

Yeah, stuff that you can keep down.

[Jourdan]

But I only say that now because I'm starting to feel better, which is awesome.

[Unknown]

What do you think is going to be your first meal?

[John Paul]

Why'd you say it like that?

[Unknown]

Meal. That's how I say meal.

[Jourdan]

I didn't think anything weird about it. People make fun of me.

[Unknown]

Don't you hear?

[Jourdan]

Say meal. Because I. It's like two syllables, and it's like I am straight from the cement pond at the Beverly Hillbillies.

[John Paul]

You're saying, like, mill.

[Unknown]

No, I say meal.

[Jourdan]

Meal. Anyway, I don't know. It'll be something light and tight, you.

[Unknown]

Know, I don't know if you're craving something.

[Jourdan]

No, I have no need to eat anything. Like, I don't want to eat anything. I need to, but it's like I'm not even hungry. When I woke up this morning, like, I had my first little thing. First little, like a bagel type thing, like a sourdough bagel that my wife got me.

[Unknown]

Oh, that reminds me. I'm gonna picking up sourdough bread today.

[John Paul]

That didn't sit very well or what?

[Jourdan]

It's the talking. It's like that.

[Unknown]

Oh, gosh, let me speak for you. So you. You got the bagel?

[Jourdan]

Nothing came out, so I got it. And let's guess, let's finish this. I'm just ready to be hungry. Because when I'm hungry, my body is healing. Yeah, I'm ready to probably be like, I'm starving, man.

[John Paul]

So you doing chicken noodle soup?

[Jourdan]

Soup, yeah.

[John Paul]

Crackers and soup.

[Jourdan]

Had a little soup, but I. The Chick, you know, I don't want to talk about sick. Yes, but no Sprite broth for the most part. A little ginger ale, little orange juice.

[John Paul]

Oh, there you go.

[Jourdan]

All the stuff that really doesn't matter. But our grandma's made us think that when we were young, so. But there was no post show yet. There's nothing. Yesterday I did the show and then I left because I was. I should have worked from home and worked from the studio at home. That was my bad. But I did it. Showed up, almost put my pants, but didn't and get out of here.

[John Paul]

Good that you didn't.

[Jourdan]

Feeling good here today though. Do we put James on? Is James still on the phone?

[Kate Max]

Ye.

[Jourdan]

No, you know, are you talking? Did he hang up? Put him on hold. You guys know James. James calls voicemail all the time.

[John Paul]

Oh, yeah.

[Jourdan]

James in what state? Everybody? Virginia. Yeah, that's right. Can you put them on? Hey, James.

[H]

Hey, Bobby.

[Jourdan]

What's up, buddy?

[H]

You're awesome.

[Jourdan]

Oh, you're awesome.

[H]

Before you met. Even before you met Caitlyn, you've been such a. You don't have any children yet or even. Even a lady, you know, wife at that point. But you've always been so supportive of the children. But. So, yeah, I'm trying to arrange to get one of the pimp. Pimp. Enjoy. And by the way, it always sounds like pimp and Joy, but it's actually pimpin P I M P I n Joy.

[Jourdan]

You're trying to arrange to get.

[H]

Well, one of the sweatshirts. But what do you want?

[Jourdan]

Yeah, whatever you want. What do you. Just tell us what you want. I. I'm running the show here. What do you want?

[H]

Well, just a large St. Jude's and a large pimp and Joy and I am going to contribute. Huh.

[Jourdan]

I get them both for you.

[H]

All right. Hey, y'all are awesome. I love by bone family. And I was telling Scuba y'all just have an awesome family team and I really mean that. And y'all personified that because I came down to Jackson's Good Time Bar and Grill and Abby made her debut.

[Jourdan]

You came out to the show?

[John Paul]

He drove 10 hours. Dude, he drove 10 hours to come to the show.

[Jourdan]

Wow.

[John Paul]

He's like a legit supporter.

[Jourdan]

Abby's met, I think James, we, like, try to set her up with him for a minute.

[H]

I've never met Abby.

[Jourdan]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

Wait, wait, you went to the show and didn't say hi?

[John Paul]

He kept his distance. Let him tell you what he did.

[H]

Well, her co worker, Chad, I went to the bathroom at the end of the show, and Abby, there was a side table, and I guess Amy and maybe Shatira and Stevenson were. I didn't look because I was there to make sure somebody showed up. And I told Scuba about my high school girlfriend, and she threw up pre New Year Eve party, and nobody showed up, and she got so trashed. So we didn't get to go to any of the other events because she was so done.

[John Paul]

But that happened.

[H]

Hey, James, what happened if nobody shows up? And that's why I drove, to make sure that somebody was there. And I. And I'll tell you what. Also, Abby's parents weren't there, but her mother's best friend was because I met her only because I sit next to her. I know the story about all y'all, but I love the. That's why I call it the Bob Bones family Show, because you're always so enthusiastic and you give so much wisdom, but you really are a family. Y'all really care about each other sometimes.

[Jourdan]

But that's a real family.

[John Paul]

No, we're family.

[Jourdan]

Yeah, we're family. Any of these shows, you hear, like, they're all friends all the time. Best friend, best friend. That's. They're full of crap. Don't even like each other in real life. And he's in these shows. You hear podcasts they fight with each other on, and then they come back the next day. I mean, isn't that what family is?

[John Paul]

Yes, exactly.

[Jourdan]

Want to punch them in the freaking head. But then you're like, I guess, tell.

[Unknown]

Us how you really feel.

[Jourdan]

Yeah, yeah. Hey, you can this way, too.

[John Paul]

No, for sure. But if you're, like, on the side of the road with a flat tire, we'll go help you.

[Jourdan]

For sure.

[Unknown]

Eddie, say what you want to say. If you need a kidney, I'll give it to you.

[John Paul]

We'll give you a kidney.

[Jourdan]

Hey, James, I think we'll make sure we have your address and stuff. We'll just send you a whole bunch of stuff. We appreciate you calling, appreciate you being a part of the crew here, buddy. We feel like whenever you leave a voicemail or you call, we love it. So please don't stop. Okay.

[H]

Hey, can I tell you the ultimate? Tell me something good.

[Jourdan]

Would love to hear it.

[H]

I mean, I live. It's my life. January 2019. I was. I was fine. Belt fine. But I was installing a rural mailbox at the wrong house on the wrong street. My brain obviously wasn't getting enough oxygen, and so I flopped over, and if I'd been on the right street at the right house. My anonymous guardian angel would not have been driving by and saw me flop over and apparently she started cpr. Got hold. I call them the second first responders AKA the Fort Washington Hospital shout out our Fort Washington rescue squad team and when they got to me, my heart was beating one or two times a minute. So they got me into rescue mobile and they're racing me to Fort Washington Hospital and along the way they had to zap me three times and they're racing me through the emergency room door and I flatlined on them and flatlined 33 minutes. But the medical teams, the professionalism and the coordination amongst all of them, Fort Washington Hospital knew that with their staff that I was way above their capabilities saved my life. They already had a medevac on the way. They got me on life support and airback me medevac me to for MedStar Washington D.C. i was on life support there nine days. They ran brain scans and brought me back to life and I didn't come out for I was on the 8th, I came back, started to come back to on 24th and I got released on my 57th birthday four days later and. But there's more to the rest of the story or there is a rest of the story. So I flopped over and one of the spectators, one of the neighbors, my vehicle was parked in front of the driveway. So she, she found it, you know, proper to move it and found one of my business cards. So I'm a small company, I only have three people that work with me. Their names are me, myself and I. So if me or I don't do it. But she called that number and you know, obviously that's just going to go to voicemail and. But she had the perseverance and the competency and thought the solution to the problem didn't think the problem, the problem's already there, but she thought the solution. That's why I came up with that line, when you have a problem, think the solution. So what she did was she googled my company and because I bought my home from my sister 15 years prior, never had a landline. My sister's number was still associated with to her old address and that's how my family found out.

[Unknown]

Oh wow.

[Jourdan]

Oh my God. Wow.

[Unknown]

This is crazy because otherwise, yeah, they wouldn't have known where he was.

[Jourdan]

And so what you're saying too is that your this was going to happen to you regardless, like physically your body was going to give out and had you been at the other place where you were Supposed to be that person that did all this work would not have been there to have seen you fall over and then follow through like that.

[H]

I come from a very Catholic family. Four of my five aunts were Catholic nuns. My fifth one never took her final vow because she took care of my grandmother was elderly. Bishop Sullivan of Richmond is my second cousin. I guess that's the way we're always put told my my father's brother married Bishop Sullivan sister. So I don't know if that second cousin put a math but two of my answer buried it St. Mary's across from Notre Dame. And so is one of our close family friends, Sister John Frederick. And if you've never been to the grotto at Notre Dame, I'm telling you it's the most humbling experience in my entire life. I mean it is so. It's just, it's so warm and humbling and just awesome. I don't know. But I'm not the Five Bones family. But that is, that's my love story. And, and, and you know, my favorite county is PG County. I live across the river. I call it unfair Tax County. It's really Fairfax County. I call it Unfair Tax. That's a predominantly lost the wealthiest black community in America. These are a night I don't. My father's like, what are you doing working over there? Don't you read the paper? Don't you watch the news? I said dad, I don't work in apartment townhouses. I work at single family homes. And dad, I'm telling you, these are the most kindest, nicest, most grateful, God fearing people. So anyway, I was living with my father last three and a half years of his life, you know, and I was working over in PG County. And this is way back in 2000, 2001. I've been in business six years and always, you know, just. I'm just telling you it's an awesome community. So anyway, all these people would mail their checks to me and they always had a post it note or a thank you card and it was all PG county. And my dad started referring to my mail as my love letters and. Yep. And I'm telling you what, I'm colorblind. And I know your show is as well. I know how close you are to like Tame Brown and Darius Rucker and, and Amy with, you know, adopting three kids.

[Jourdan]

No, we understand. I know, we understand what you're saying and listen, we can't. We eventually have to move on to something else here. But we really appreciate that. I also like in Real life, I'm colorblind, but also I'm not colorblind. Like, I do see color. And I think every. Everybody that has a different color of skin, you always goes through different things. And, you know, someone goes, oh, I don't see color. I kind of think that's a lie. I do see color. And I do understand people go through different things because of how they were born and what they were born into. But I do understand your sentiment and also agree with your sentiment, but that. That's crazy. Is it? The whole. The whole crazy. I'm glad we gave James some space here to air that out.

[Unknown]

His own personal. Tell me something good.

[John Paul]

It's his life.

[Jourdan]

A great listener and a great caller. And we've never spent one day, one.

[Unknown]

Day, 10 hours, one day I want to call and leave us a voicemail about why he was doing the wrong mailbox. I know that that worked out in his favor, but, you know, we have stories sometimes where people, you know, throw a wrecking ball into the wrong house and it's like, whoopsie. I mean, a male, you know, how do you make the. What was the mix up? You know?

[Jourdan]

Well, sometimes they can't. They wrecking ball the wrong house. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Did you say that?

[Unknown]

Yeah, I did.

[Jourdan]

I was reading a text from somebody saying, this is a long call. Right when you said that.

[Unknown]

Well, that's why I said to call back and leave us a voicemail. So that way we don't.

[Jourdan]

I know. I. Sorry, I wasn't.

[John Paul]

I'd also like a voicemail to see, like, what happened when he would flatline for 30 minutes. Like, what did he see?

[Jourdan]

Great.

[John Paul]

But you can leave a voicemail for that.

[Jourdan]

James, buddy, we're going to send you that stuff. Thank you for listening and we'll talk to you soon. Okay, man.

[H]

Hey, take care of the Bar Bond family team and take care of the children. They're just fighting for their laugh. And the other thing is, you can say, Bobby, because you've never been a father, but you've always been supportive of St. Jude's and like, you know, I'm an uncle many times over, actually, I'm an great uncle. And a couple years from now, assuming the Lord gives me extra time, more extra time, I'll be a great, great uncle because I come from a very Catholic family, very small clan. But I'll tell you what, they're breeding like. Well, they've been breeding pretty quick my whole life.

[Jourdan]

Well, look, listen, we could do a whole hour With James, I feel pretty easily. I definitely wanted to give James to stretch out and talk to us a little bit. Don't want to be rude, but I do have to move on, James. But we. We really appreciate you. We're going to send you some stuff. Okay, buddy?

[H]

All right. Take care of the family. Your Bob Bones family. Take care of the children.

[Unknown]

Thanks, James. Bye.

[Jourdan]

The fact that he drove 10 hours to make sure Abby didn't have a party by herself, Amazing. That's why that guy gets to talk for 15 minutes, and let's just sit back and listen. Dang.

[Unknown]

And it's like, you never know the gain of something that happens, like, when it's rough. But, like, Abby benefited from his. This guy's. James's girlfriend's party that she threw years back where nobody showed up and she drank too much. Like, then that. That benefited Abby.

[Jourdan]

I always, like, people started calling my black friends, too, just to be like, I know you like black people. Let me list out your black friends. And I have more black friends than that. But, you know, yeah, I can. And I'm like, you know, I don't any. I don't think he was doing it from. No at all. I think he was just like. Like, you like everybody. And I always think it's funny when it's like, here's your one. Here's your one.

[John Paul]

I did think you're talking about your eyes. Eyes.

[Jourdan]

Me too. Colorblind. And I'm like, I am that colorblind. But I just want to say I'm not colorblind toward what people go through being different from different places and different races. Like. But yeah. Yeah. I always love when someone can listen to black friends. They forgot Charlemagne. They forgot. I got, like, nine others, but there's never a complete list. We can, you know, want to do that, Ahmad?

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Jourdan]

I got lots of Mexican friends, too. If we didn't do that, we go down that 140. Okay. Man, I had. So I had a huge list to get to of stuff. Well, yeah. Thank you. Could you guys hear Scuba say that or just.

[John Paul]

No.

[Jourdan]

Okay. Thank you. I do want to talk about stealing. We can't. I know it's nobody here, but I'll burn the building down if people start stealing from this office. Office.

[John Paul]

Oh, no.

[Jourdan]

People are taking stuff from my office, which there's not. I don't put a lot in there because of the last building we were in. People stole, like, good stuff, meaning it doesn't matter if they stole bad stuff. I'm still pissed. But they still, like, I had, for example, I've known Laney Wilson since before she had a record deal. And she had written this real nice thing. And it was like, you know, once artists, if I've had a relationship with them or if, like, helped them or whatever. And she definitely didn't need my help. But I'm not saying that, but I'm saying, like, I was a big supporter early, early, early. And we had her do Million Dollar show with us. And so she wrote this thing and it was like, whatever. Somebody stole it out of my office. That was just one of many things, like, that was valuable to me because that has, like, sentimental value. Now. Could I get Lanny to sign something tomorrow? Yeah, but that's not the point of it. So we started like, somebody still raised Hot Pockets.

[John Paul]

Oh, yeah.

[Unknown]

Toaster Strudels.

[John Paul]

Toaster Strudels from the freezer.

[Jourdan]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

You know, even better.

[Jourdan]

Freezer. That was a little different. If anybody starts. If we. I'll burn the building down. Okay, Don't. If scuba. What do we know?

[John Paul]

I'm not really sure what's happening, but I sent an email to two important people. It says the water is gone in our Green moon Green Room. The fridge was stocked on Monday and we had a pack in the cabinet. Now nothing. It's not just about the water disappearing. It's the principle of it.

[Jourdan]

Yeah.

[John Paul]

Someone came into the green Room.

[Jourdan]

Oh, you said this. Yeah. Yeah, someone came in my office. Oh, no crap about the girl. Yeah.

[John Paul]

Well, no one stole from your office this time.

[Unknown]

Well, the Green room is.

[John Paul]

Well, the green room is still our space.

[Jourdan]

That's why I said this Is our space open, though.

[John Paul]

Yeah, but it doesn't matter. You shouldn't walk in someone's like, I wouldn't walk up to your desk and just start taking your pencils.

[Jourdan]

It's just a little easier to. If a place is wide open.

[Unknown]

And so you're only going to burn it down if it's your office.

[Jourdan]

Yeah, because it's locked. Locked. Yeah. Someone has to get in there with a key and has to know somebody.

[John Paul]

Yeah, that's different. Yeah, but no one stole from your office this time.

[Jourdan]

If. I'll just say this about the green room. If, like, you work in this building, they shouldn't take anything of ours. But there's a wide open community refrigerator. I'll probably take water, too, from that. I'll be honest.

[Unknown]

The Green room's not a community refrigerator.

[Jourdan]

But it's wide open. It's like, to the.

[John Paul]

There is a community fridge in the.

[Jourdan]

Kitchen over here in the green rooms open and there's a water in there. I probably would take one of those. Oh, I wouldn't burn it down for that.

[John Paul]

You about to take all the waters?

[Jourdan]

Yeah. No. That sucks.

[John Paul]

One bottle, sure.

[Jourdan]

Fine.

[John Paul]

They take like a case. My point is case and a full fridge.

[Jourdan]

Let's just. Let's. The whole case.

[John Paul]

Like whole case.

[Jourdan]

Now I feel bad for now. I think they're thirsty.

[John Paul]

They need water.

[Jourdan]

They need water. But they ask. Now I'm sympathetic to their problem. Just ask. I give them a key to my office. It totally switches. Yeah, we can't have stealing here. I want. I'll knock him in. You heard me say it. Wow. If people start stealing, I'll just work from home for the rest of my life.

[Unknown]

Okay, but how. Okay.

[Jourdan]

And that's up to you guys to figure out what you're doing.

[Unknown]

Okay. Okay.

[John Paul]

And deal with that.

[Jourdan]

If they saw the whole case. That's dirty, dog. If somebody's like taking a water or two, that's not a big deal from like the main. From that area. But a whole case.

[Unknown]

Well, and is in a matter of three days.

[Jourdan]

I know. All right.

[Unknown]

It's a lot of water.

[Jourdan]

I feel like this has all been trivial so far. But what isn't about our show, I.

[John Paul]

Will say though, like, I walked by one of the conference rooms and they had these nice tumblers that said I heart media on it. And I was. I thought about getting one, but good thing I didn't. Cuz they had a meeting right after that for all those people.

[Unknown]

Yeah, they were laid out for people in the meeting.

[Jourdan]

Hey, Community.

[John Paul]

But I did think about it.

[Jourdan]

Hey, sounds like community to me.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Jourdan]

Okay. Okay.

[Unknown]

J. There was a meeting the other day. That room was so full of people. And I was like, who?

[Jourdan]

I don't even know who.

[John Paul]

They were all dead.

[Jourdan]

I don't know who comes up.

[Unknown]

Oh, they. They were.

[John Paul]

Yeah, yeah.

[Unknown]

Yesterday. No, I met the dentist. This was different. This was like. I don't know, they looked like they worked here doing something.

They're having a party.

[John Paul]

They're renting space. They rent out space or let people use space to work in office. It's a thing, I guess in larger cities where you can use space.

[Unknown]

Boardroom sharing.

[John Paul]

Well, it's almost like that we work. But a version of that where it's like, hey, come by, like my wife.

[Jourdan]

For example, in San Francisco, we work room.

[Unknown]

I think we just figured it out. Okay, this all makes sense now because I feel like I've seen most people that work in our office it's got.

[John Paul]

Microphones and a board to record.

[Jourdan]

You guys will never believe it.

[Unknown]

Okay, this totally makes sense.

[John Paul]

Like, shared workspace.

[Jourdan]

That's.

[John Paul]

But I saw that show, and that show was awesome. Like, we work was cool. They had parties and stuff.

[Unknown]

You mean the documentary that was. Or the scripted show about the show with Jared Leto.

[John Paul]

Right.

[Jourdan]

And then came back.

[Unknown]

Oh, what do they call that when it's a. It's a real.

[Jourdan]

A biopic.

[Unknown]

Is that what it's called?

[Jourdan]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Jourdan]

Okay.

[Unknown]

Biopic.

[Jourdan]

We got. We got other stuff to do. Real stuff to do. You good? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm good. Oh, I'm a 75% here, but I'm good.

[Unknown]

Oh, wow. You've already gone up 15% because earlier I was 60.

[John Paul]

James did that.

[Jourdan]

Let's do. And what we're gonna do too, just so everybody knows, I know we're live on the stream right now, but we're gonna put this as the second half of the podcast that goes up today.

[Unknown]

Okay.

[Jourdan]

Scuba. When we put this as a whole podcast. Yes, put this as a second half instead of the first half because we're going to break in a minute.

[John Paul]

Okay.

[Jourdan]

But we'll put this as the second half because we got, like, stuffed that we need to do. I'd rather put this at the front.

[John Paul]

I see what you're saying. Yes. I know where you're going with this.

[Jourdan]

Thank you. Let's go, Ray. Give me voicemail number four. Des.

[Unknown]

What up, Bobby Bones? I left you a voicemail about a month ago about going to rehab. And, man, do I sound silly being.

[Jourdan]

Like I'm going for this person, I'm doing it for this?

[Unknown]

Hell no.

[Jourdan]

My mind was changed very quickly.

[Unknown]

I am healing myself by myself, for.

[Jourdan]

Myself, and the rest is yet to come, man. Love y'all. I made it.

[Unknown]

Oh, love that.

[Jourdan]

Well, I don't know how I feel about that, but first of all, Dez sounds 12 in this clip. Does it Des sound very young? Not. That's a woman.

[Unknown]

What's her personality?

[John Paul]

Des? Woman.

[Jourdan]

Got it. Yeah, it's either a young boy or.

[Unknown]

A woman, but she sounds very excited.

[Jourdan]

Play the original for me. Hello, Bobby Bones. I'm currently taking off on a six.

[G]

Hour drive to a mental health facility in Denver, Colorado.

[Jourdan]

My last chance to save my family. I've struggled with addiction and mental health my whole life. Just wondering if you could tell my.

[Unknown]

Wife Jessica that I love her and.

[Jourdan]

I'm gonna miss her and I'm doing this for her. And this is the most gangster I've ever Done. I love you guys and you're gonna.

[G]

Get me through this.

[Jourdan]

Thank you. Sounds more adult there, because she's crying, I think. And she also mentions wife, which is, you have to be an adult. Yeah, no, I don't like the first voicemail at all. I know you guys are like, hey, good. I don't like it at all.

[Unknown]

Why?

[Jourdan]

Do you know how hard it is to do it by yourself?

[Unknown]

No, no, no, no. I think what she's saying now, she went, she went, she's out. She spent her days there. And she's saying because you encouraged. What happened was she sent that note and then you said, hey, look, I know that you're saying you're doing this for your wife, but you need to do it for yourself. And this is her follow up message saying, like, because that's so true, like, if you're gonna get sober, it has to be for yourself. It can't be for anybody else or it may not stick.

[Jourdan]

Can I hear that one again then, Ray? The first one.

[Unknown]

What up, Bobby Bones? I left you a voicemail about a month ago about going to rehab. And, man, do I sound silly being.

[Jourdan]

Like, I'm going for this person, I'm doing it for this.

[Unknown]

Hell no. My mind was changed very quickly. I am healing myself by myself, for.

[Jourdan]

Myself, and the rest is yet to come.

[G]

In love, y'all.

[Jourdan]

I made it.

[Unknown]

Yeah, she made it through the program. So she went to Denver, she made it out, and I think quickly there she learned, oh, I need to be doing this for myself. Nobody can do this for me, so I've got to do it by myself and for myself.

[Jourdan]

But obviously, I guess by myself is where I got a bit thrown.

[Unknown]

I see how that's confusing, but I just remembered what you told her after the first voicemail.

[Jourdan]

Which was what?

[Unknown]

Which was that, yeah, that's great. You're wanting to do this, but do this for yourself. Because she was like, I'm doing it for my wife. And it's, yeah, it has to be for yourself, then.

[Jourdan]

That's awesome. Yeah. Because my initial reaction is you can't do it by yourself.

[Unknown]

Correct?

[Kate Max]

Yeah, like, correct.

[Unknown]

You need support. But which it seems like she got the support. And that's when she also quickly realized that, oh, I can't do this for. I mean, sure, you want. You want to sober up for your family, that makes sense. But when at the end of the day, it has to be for you.

[Jourdan]

That's why I wish today were Thanksgiving.

[Unknown]

Why?

[Jourdan]

Because I'm thankful for you to set me straight on that.

[Unknown]

No problem.

[Jourdan]

Walked right into that.

[John Paul]

Today can be Thanksgiving.

[Jourdan]

No, can't be sure. Just a few days ago.

[Unknown]

Any day you practicing gratitude as you doing your Thanksgiving. So.

[John Paul]

Yeah, man.

[Unknown]

That's what you call it.

[Jourdan]

Yeah.

[John Paul]

You don't have to have turkey and all that.

[Jourdan]

I like it, though. But I haven't had a meal in a few days.

[John Paul]

So that's why you're saying this.

[Jourdan]

Yeah, yeah, that's all. Hey, look, I just root for you to have the support that you need. This is one of those situations just from dealing with personal experience that you need support. And I hope you got it, and I hope you have it, and I hope you are doing it for you, because then you will be doing it for everybody else. Like it can. You're not doing. You'll be doing it for you and it will affect everybody else. I should say. Great. I. I'm glad Amy interpreted that because I did not interpret that correctly. Okay, let's see what else.

[John Paul]

That first voicemail is tough to hear though, man, when she's driving there.

[Jourdan]

Oh, and I really hope that's what happened. Yes, that's what she went. I wanted to say something about cursing. Somebody had DM me, said they heard me curse on a. Like a podcast or something. I didn't, but I don't care. Cursing to me is not bad. I want people to understand something about me and not cursing. I haven't cursed in my definition of cursing in, I don't know, seven, eight years at this point. I don't not curse because I think cursing is bad. I don't not curse because there are certain disciplines I like to have inside of me to just stay sharp. And there are things if I say, like pissing off people, like, well, that's curse word. Yeah, but to you. But I don't not curse because I think there is something inherently wrong with a word I'd like to. So if I curse, big deal. Don't care. I like when people don't curse. I'm like, why don't you curse a little wimp? I don't curse because when I was writing kids books and I was doing a bunch of comedy and I was writing, even doing this show, we don't curse in the studio. So I was like, I'm just going to discipline myself to not say any curse words. And the curse words to me are the ones that would get me fined by the fcc. The S word, the F word, the C word. That's a tough one. And that's not. That's not even really A curse word. It's just a nasty one.

[Unknown]

Oh, that's the worst.

[Jourdan]

Yeah, it's a nasty one.

[Unknown]

Those.

[Jourdan]

To me, that's cursing. And it's not because I feel like not cursing makes me better or more in favor in God's eyes in any way whatsoever. Because I think a sound is just a sound.

[Unknown]

Oh, God, the C word. Okay.

[Jourdan]

And with that, I would compare it to this. If I say the F word and I say it, that's a sound. If I were to travel to Pakistan or Paris or to somebody who doesn't speak place that doesn't speak English, they don't know English, and I say that same word. It means nothing to them.

[John Paul]

I bet they know that.

[Jourdan]

No, I'm saying they don't speak English, so it doesn't matter what the word is. Let me just go for a second. So you can say any curse word in English. If they don't understand another language, to them, that's just a sound. The same way they would say a word in Mandarin and we wouldn't know what that was. Just a sound. So there is nothing inherently bad about a sound. But if I went to a country that did not speak English and I stole, well, there is something inherently bad about stealing or killing or like, those are actually bad things that regardless of boundaries of where you live, language culture, like, those are bad. Regardless, words are just words. I feel like I'd say every sound. I could say every curse word ever. And it makes me know better or worse than anybody else that's anywhere near me or far from me. So if I do happen to say a curse word, which I haven't, I don't give a. Because it's not about that. It literally is not about me. I don't curse. I'm doing a moral thing. People that claim moral are often the opposite, because the people that live moral don't have to claim moral. It's like, you know, who is the meanest in my Instagram comments or TikTok comment? And not TikTok so much, but Instagram comments or Twitter or Facebook people that publicly proclaim Bible verses in there, or only loving the next person next to me. You don't need to say that stuff if you're living that stuff. So whenever someone is like, I heard him curse. He's such a hypocrite. No, no, I'm a hypocrite. I curse all day if I want to. I don't think it makes me better or worse than you. Probably. I'm probably worse than you anyway.

[John Paul]

But there's no way you curse, though. There's no way.

[Jourdan]

Oh, I know my version of curse, but to some people, like, say pissing off is curse.

[Unknown]

Or did the dic.

[Jourdan]

Sometimes you say, well, I won't talk about that as a human body part, but I'm like, that dude is such a dick. Like, I don't feel like that. Also, that's not a bad. That's not a curse word to me. It could be a word that is. I wouldn't say around a kid. I wouldn't be like lunchbox in a car with Eddie's kids.

[John Paul]

Right?

[Jourdan]

Like, you know.

[Unknown]

Like, I'm catching strays over here for.

[Jourdan]

No, I would never say that around a kid. But I don't consider that to be a curse word to me. So therefore I don't say it because it's a self discipline.

[Unknown]

Right.

[Jourdan]

The same thing with the P word. I would never refer to a woman's body part ever. But if somebody's like a wimp every once in a while, I'd be like, why? You missed your pussy. Come on.

[Unknown]

Oh, don't.

[Jourdan]

But I would say there's a difference. I would never refer to a guy's body part. Is that with a D word? Or a woman's body part. Is that with a D? But I can't believe.

[Unknown]

Most unattractive thing ever.

[Jourdan]

But I'm just showing there's no rationale to this. There are no rules that I'm right or wrong about. Oh, I'm living by my standards that I've set myself. And everybody else can suck. I'm just kidding. But. But yeah, that's. That's the deal. So I got a whole DM about it. It was like, you say you don't curse, but we heard you say the F word. I'm like, no, you didn't. First of all, no chance. There's no chance.

[Unknown]

No chance.

[Jourdan]

Secondly, who cares? I wouldn't say it on the air because I don't want to get defined by the fcc.

[John Paul]

But, like, could you go into, like, a board meeting, like, in a company and be like, all right, here's the deal.

[Jourdan]

Like, yes. Like, some could see.

[Unknown]

Or human.

[John Paul]

Like a human. I feel like automatically they'd be like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Unknown]

Well, depends on the amount the culture.

[Jourdan]

Absolutely. It depends on the culture that's set early. It's just like, even head football coaches, there are some that are ffff. And that's the culture. And there are some that are exactly the opposite of that. Or I would say, let's. Let's not use bad words. Let's use demeanor. If we're ever after a show and I just start screaming at everybody and I'm like, what would that tell you about me that day, Amy? If I. If I'm so mad at. And I'm just yelling at, I'm just gonna say you. I've never yelled at you. But I'm just saying, if I'm like, but I'm yelling, what would you think?

[Unknown]

I. Based on your demeanor, I would think something is wrong with you. Really bad. Like, also, like, maybe, like, I don't know. Go. We need to check him in somewhere. Like, something's totally off if you're screaming or yelling, because that's not the way.

[Jourdan]

You or somebody here did something that was. Is completely detrimental to what the entire our world is that we built. It must be something so severe. It's never happened. I have never just yelled at anyone. I've never. But if I did, it would be like, I'm not okay. Or something is really not okay here. Right.

[Unknown]

Right.

[Jourdan]

One of the two things. Something's to a level. So I would also think if you go into a boardroom and there's a boardroom. When we've been in boardrooms.

[John Paul]

No, I just.

[Jourdan]

We work here one day. Now all of a sudden, Eddie's got boardroom.

[John Paul]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

Hey, I like going in there sometimes. Sometimes I'm like, oh, this feels. I don't know.

When I'm working, Eddie does go sit in there.

So do I.

[Jourdan]

Like, imagine this. If a CEO who doesn't. All of a sudden, it's like, we gotta effing do this. And you're like, oh, this is serious today.

[Unknown]

Yes.

[Jourdan]

Like, way more than ever before.

[Unknown]

Well, if you're saying it like that. If you were to say that, it'd be like, okay, he means business. But if you're, like, going off and angry, then that would be weird because.

[Jourdan]

But same, same. Because the culture has been said of what you don't do. So when the culture is shifted to where it never is, something is really off, either the person or the situation. And it's got to be fixed.

[Unknown]

Right.

[Jourdan]

And the person could be the person saying it or the person receiving it or the situation of everyone involved. Anyway, it makes me want to curse, just to start cursing to piss everybody off. But I only do it for me. I don't do it for anybody else. I don't do it to be like, oh, he doesn't curse. I do it because I'm like. I don't want to slip up In a situation or when I was writing a lot of jokes, be able to use that as a crutch for humor. That's where a lot of it came from. Because, man, you can be so funny with the F word. It's so. It's the funniest word ever.

[John Paul]

Yeah.

[Jourdan]

And I was like, I don't want to do that.

[Unknown]

It's also very therapeutic and all.

[Jourdan]

And I wanted to work completely clean so I could be. I could do private events because they pay a ton of money when a company brings you out to tell jokes to a thousand workers at X Company. So that's what it is. So F off everybody.

[John Paul]

What's funny is, like, my wife and I don't curse, obviously, around our kids, but the second we're alone, we're like sailors all of a sudden. It's so weird.

[Jourdan]

Yeah. Lunchbox walks a very fine line, though, of doing it close to the door. And at times, you can almost hear it in here.

[John Paul]

Yeah.

[Jourdan]

And that's why we don't. We don't. Nobody's allowed to curse in this room at all. Yeah.

[Unknown]

It's a no. No in this room. I know that.

Even if, like, we're not even close to being on air.

No, no, no, no, no.

[Jourdan]

Just because of the implication of it being on the air. So there's no cursing here. But that's also not a moral thing. That's a. We don't want to go to FCC jail.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

But Lunchbox, do you cuss around your kids?

[Jourdan]

I.

[Unknown]

Not on purpose.

Well, no, but wasn't your kid, like.

Saying, my kid, you know, he knows how to use some of them.

Okay.

Yeah.

[Jourdan]

I imagine if you say them, they slip out.

[Unknown]

Yeah. It happens. Like, you drop something on your foot. It's hard to say.

Oh, you say, oh, I don't. I don't really let it slip out in front of my kid. I mean, I guess I have accidentally, but the other day, I used one intentionally because I needed to.

[Jourdan]

You needed to know.

[Unknown]

I needed. I meant business, and I was dead serious about what I was saying, and I added it in and I even said, yeah, you heard me say that? Because I need you to know how serious I am. Yeah. Yeah.

[Jourdan]

I mean, it would be like if I came in and we're like, what the. You guys be like, oh, like something real bad about to happen or.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Jourdan]

Okay, so here's what we're going to do, because this we just did, like, half an hour. We're going to have to break for a few minute, so we're Going to go off the stream. We're going to. This is the end of the podcast, though. But if you guys are watching YouTube or whatever, we're going to be back in a few minutes and we'll do the beginning of the show. But everybody good on all those things?

[John Paul]

Oh, yeah.

[Jourdan]

Okay. And by the way, become a partner in Hope. Why the f not? That would be awesome if you would. No, seriously, we spent the whole show today doing the radio thon for St. Jude, and we feel like we owe it to you guys that also come to us for content to do a separate side show, which is what we're doing here. So if you guys can become a partner in Hope if you don't listen to the show that's live in the morning, please do text the word Bobby to 785833. That would be awesome. 785833. You'll get the Pimp and Joy sweatshirt. It's 19 bucks a month. You help kids. And the whole thing with helping kids is it helps our families. Nobody pays a bill at St. Jude. Apparent. There are no bills because of partners in Hope. And there are times I understand people like, well, I want to donate to my local hospital, and that's great. Love it. Do it. But St. Jude is not local to us. But the reason that we are so involved in St. Jude is because it's local to everybody in the way of they take kids from every single city in the whole country, and all you need is to have a cancer that they research, diagnose, try to heal. Heal is not the word. What's. What am I looking for?

[Unknown]

I feel like heal. Okay, fair enough.

[Jourdan]

And treat. Treat. Good. Thank you.

[Unknown]

Okay.

[Jourdan]

From it. And they go immediately. And all the bills are paid for. So it's. Is it in your town? Probably not. Does it help your town? Absolutely.

[Unknown]

Yes. 100%.

[Jourdan]

And all the research that they do, because a lot of hospitals, they do research so they can have and almost own that. So people have to go to their hospital. St. Jude doesn't do that. That research goes out to every hospital. That's why we are involved with St. Jude. So. But sometimes you don't have the ability to do it. Trust me. Been there. It's 19 bucks a month. Also, sometimes you're just like, I want to do this because it's important to me. And that's great, too. So we're just saying if you want to be a partner in Hope, that would be awesome. 19 bucks a month. Text that Bobby to 785833. And you'll get a link. When you text that, I should say that you'll get a link back from St. Jude because it won't like take out of your phone bill. You get a link from St. Jude and then you fill it out and it takes 19 bucks a month after that. Okay, thank you. We're ending the podcast now. This is it. Hope you enjoyed the first half, which we haven't done yet, but if you're listening to the podcast, you already heard it. All right, bye.

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[John Paul]

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[Jourdan]

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[John Paul]

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[Jourdan]

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[John Paul]

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[Unknown]

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[Unknown]

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[Jourdan]

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[Unknown]

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[Jourdan]

You listen to podcasts.