TUES PT 2: Bobby And Eddie Have A Heated Debate On Fate vs. Free Will + Luke Bryan On Getting Hit In The Face, Free Stuff, Refunding Arkansas Show And Being Misunderstood

Summary

The Bobby Bones Show

Episode: TUES PT 2: Bobby And Eddie Have A Heated Debate On Fate vs. Free Will + Luke Bryan On Getting Hit In The Face, Free Stuff, Refunding Arkansas Show And Being Misunderstood
Host: Bobby Bones
Guest: Luke Bryan
Release Date: August 12, 2025

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I. Interview with Luke Bryan

A. Incident at a Recent Show

The episode kicks off with Bobby Bones welcoming listeners to the second part of the show and introducing a special guest—country superstar Luke Bryan. The conversation quickly delves into a recent incident where Luke was struck in the face during a performance.

• [04:34] Bobby Bones: "Did you get hit in the face with something at a show?"
• [04:36] Luke Bryan: "I did. It was like this little beach ball thing, like a hacky sack. But it... the way it takes off and goes."

Bobby humorously references a misleading headline about the incident:

• [04:53] Bobby Bones: "Well, it looked like somebody hit you with a nuclear bomb."

Luke clarifies the nature of the object and expresses his frustration over the exaggeration:

• [04:58] Luke Bryan: "People throw things at artists and they're idiots and it's the deterioration of the moral fabric of how you ought to act."

B. Handling the Aftermath

The discussion transitions to the repercussions of the event, including the impact on Luke's family and the spread of misinformation via social media.

• [05:23] Bobby Bones: "So your official statement is what?"
• [05:25] Luke Bryan: "People throw things at artists and they're idiots..."

Luke elaborates on the challenges of misinformation:

• [05:42] Luke Bryan: "They put it on video and they chunk it up there. So that's terrible."

C. Refunding Shows in Arkansas

Luke shares his experience with performing at Rogers Bentonville, Arkansas, highlighting a series of unfortunate events that led him to refund a show.

• [07:10] Bobby Bones: "You probably take them."
• [07:11] Luke Bryan: Discusses the challenges of performing while ill and the subsequent decision to refund tickets, emphasizing his commitment to delivering quality performances.

D. Misunderstood as an Artist

Luke touches upon how certain aspects of his personality and performance are misconstrued by fans and the public.

• [19:13] Luke Bryan: "The most misunderstood thing about me? I think that I really care about this stuff..."

Bobby counters by highlighting Luke's musical prowess beyond his stage persona:

• [19:37] Bobby Bones: "I think you're not just a dude who gets up there and shakes his butt and sings. Your music acumen is extremely high..."

E. Discussing His Music and Live Shows

Luke discusses his favorite songs to perform and the energy they bring to his live shows, mentioning tracks like "I Don't Want This Night to End," "Play It Again," and "Country Girl."

• [23:46] Luke Bryan: "I think when you look... I don't want this night to end, Play It Again and Country Girl are... just the fact that I get to do those for the rest of my life..."

He also talks about his upcoming "Farm Tour," highlighting the unique experience of performing on actual farms with large audiences.

• [24:54] Bobby Bones: "Farm tour, three dates. September 18th, 19th, and 20th..."

F. Future Plans and Closing the Interview

The interview wraps up with light-hearted banter about potential future shows and playful suggestions for themed performances in Rogers.

• [26:24] Luke Bryan: "Get ready, Rogers. We're coming to redemption. I'm gonna do some Pavarotti songs..."
• [27:00] Luke Bryan: "We're gonna do a sweepstakes where a fan gets to win. And we can have our..."

II. Heated Debate: Fate vs. Free Will

Following Luke Bryan’s interview, the show transitions into a spirited debate between Bobby Bones and his co-host Eddie on the topic of fate versus free will.

A. Opening Statements

• [32:49] Bobby Bones: Initiates the debate by questioning Eddie's belief in fate, particularly in the statement, "Do you believe everything happens for a reason?"
• [32:51] Eddie: "No, that is crazy."

Bobby elaborates his stance on free will:

• [32:55] Bobby Bones: "I believe we all make choices and then if not, nobody would have to do anything ever..."

B. Eddie’s Perspective on Fate

Eddie shares a personal anecdote involving Owen Wilson to illustrate his belief in fate:

• [33:01] Eddie: Discusses how being kicked out of military school led Owen Wilson to meet Wes Anderson, ultimately shaping his acting career.

C. Bobby’s Counterarguments

Bobby challenges the notion that everything happens for a reason by highlighting the existence of evil and suffering:

• [34:00] Bobby Bones: "Why do pedophiles... go to hell? That's not fate."

He argues that attributing events to fate minimizes the importance of personal choices and efforts:

• [34:29] Bobby Bones: "Fate put us here" is his main contention, emphasizing that personal decisions drive outcomes, not predetermined destiny.

D. Theaters of Evil and Accountability

The debate intensifies as Bobby brings up severe examples to question the validity of fate:

• [43:34] Bobby Bones: "If everything happens for a reason, why do pedophiles... people go to hell?"

Eddie attempts to reconcile fate with free will, suggesting that while opportunities might arise (fate), individuals must act on them:

• [46:08] Eddie: "You have free will, but your fate is there..."

E. Amy Brown’s Mediation

Amy intervenes to clarify definitions and offer a balanced view, suggesting that while certain events may feel orchestrated, personal choices play a crucial role:

• [55:08] Amy Brown: "Everything happens for a reason suggests a purposeful, often beneficial underlying cause for every event. While fate implies a predetermined course of events that cannot be altered..."

F. Conclusion of the Debate

The conversation concludes without a consensus, highlighting the complexities of reconciling fate with free will. Bobby maintains his stance on free will, while Eddie holds onto his belief that certain events are fated.

• [55:38] Bobby Bones: "There's too much evil in the world for me to believe that those things happen for a reason."
• [56:11] Eddie: "I believe in free will, but fate is there..."

III. Key Takeaways and Insights

1. Luke Bryan’s Resilience: Luke’s ability to handle unexpected challenges, such as being struck during a performance and dealing with illness, underscores his dedication to his craft and his fans.

2. Free Will vs. Fate: The debate between Bobby and Eddie encapsulates a timeless philosophical discussion:

   • Free Will Advocate (Bobby): Emphasizes the power of personal choices and accountability. Highlights that attributing events to fate can diminish the role of individual effort and decision-making.
   • Fate Proponent (Eddie): Believes in the idea that certain events are meant to happen for a reason, using real-life examples to support his viewpoint.

3. Impact of Personal Beliefs: The intense nature of the debate illustrates how deeply personal and subjective beliefs about fate and free will can shape one’s worldview and responses to life’s events.

4. Role of Circumstances and Decisions: Amy Brown offers a nuanced perspective, suggesting that while certain circumstances might feel destined, the decisions made within those contexts are pivotal in shaping outcomes.

Notable Quotes

• Luke Bryan on Being Hit:
  “People throw things at artists and they're idiots and it's the deterioration of the moral fabric of how you ought to act.”
  [05:25] Luke Bryan

• Bobby Bones on Free Will:
  “I believe that the more work you do and the more prepared you are for when an opportunity happens, the better chances you have to make that opportunity happen.”
  [41:29] Bobby Bones

• Eddie on Fate and Opportunities:
  “You have free will, but your fate is there. Whatever you want to do around it is up to you.”
  [46:33] Eddie

• Amy Brown on Faith and Decision-Making:
  “I think that we can have circumstances... and I have to make certain decisions to nurture it and then see what was going to come from it.”
  [48:28] Amy Brown

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IV. Conclusion

This episode of The Bobby Bones Show offers a compelling blend of celebrity insight and deep philosophical debate. Luke Bryan's candid recounting of his recent challenges provides listeners with a glimpse into the realities of life on tour, while the ensuing discussion between Bobby and Eddie on fate versus free will invites listeners to reflect on their beliefs and the factors that shape their lives. The episode underscores the importance of balancing personal agency with the unpredictability of life's events.

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[Bobby Bones]

Everybody welcome part two of the podcast. Appreciate all the part twoers out there listening. We're going to get to our interview with Luke Bryan now that was on the show. So enjoy this. And then after this, the big debate about are things meant to be or do we have free will? It was like a half hour long. So we just put this in this part so you guys could hear the whole thing. So enjoy. Here is Luke Bryan on the Bobby Bones show now. Luke Bryan, good to see you, buddy. Okay, I have questions. 1. Did you get hit in the face with something at a show?

[Luke Bryan]

I did.

[Bobby Bones]

That's recent.

[Luke Bryan]

Yes, very recent. Very. Well, yeah. The most frustrating thing is, first of all, it was like this little beach ball thing, like a hacky sack. But it, I don't know, the way this stuff takes off and goes.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, it looked like somebody hit you with a nuclear bomb. According to the headline. It's like, Luke Bryan almost dies because he gets hit in the face with a nuclear bomb.

[Luke Bryan]

Well, yeah. I mean, when I'm sitting there singing and it's. I'm just doing my deal and it comes into my frame, obviously I flinched and it got me. But then the problem with it is, is, is then it makes all of my family members and friends that don't have all the social media to go watch what actually happened. Then they call me and then it turns into I got hit by, like I said, a baseball.

[Bobby Bones]

So your official statement is what?

[Luke Bryan]

My official statement is people throw things at artists and they're idiots and it's the deterioration of the moral fabric of how your ass ought to act.

[Bobby Bones]

I agree. Don't throw stuff. Literally don't throw stuff. Just don't throw stuff.

[Luke Bryan]

I mean, listen, I mean, it's always, you know, this is not a new thing. I mean, listen, that was a, that was a great thing to get thrown at me. It was a little beach ball. I mean, I've had eleven hundred dollar cell phones get thrown at.

[Amy Brown]

Oh gosh. Why?

[Bobby Bones]

Somebody wants to take a video with it.

[Luke Bryan]

Yeah. They put it on video and they chunk it up there. So that's terrible.

[Bobby Bones]

That's like throwing a rock at you. That thing is that big and heavy.

[Luke Bryan]

Let's just, let's just, let's just showcase entitlement. I've got an 1100 dollar iPhone that I'm gonna throw at an artist to get a picture.

[Amy Brown]

But they're not gonna get it back. Do they just like go to their cloud and get.

[Luke Bryan]

No, they realize that it gets kind of scooped up by either security guard. Then, then they get, then they, then they get to begging for it.

[Amy Brown]

If I were you, I'd be like, tell that security guard they don't get their phone back. You don't get. If you throw your phone at me, you don't get it back.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, then they can say somebody grabbed my phone and threw it up there. Can. I would lie. Yeah, I would lie. I'd make up a great lie. Okay.

[Luke Bryan]

You know, when the thing came in, like when, when the little ball or whatever it was came in, I mean, the first thing I do is I saw, I see red. Like I, you know, and I get my composure and then I'm like, I mean, it's, you know, it's just A bunch of kids, you know, being. Being silly and I mean, it's not like I could. I wanted to jump off in there and. But you know, and you're a big old boy.

[Bobby Bones]

You probably take them.

[Luke Bryan]

Well, I don't know.

[Bobby Bones]

Bigger than most.

[Luke Bryan]

It is his last song of the night. It's Country Girl. It's fun. It's a highlight of the show. Everybody's fun. I got pissed for three seconds and finished it.

[Bobby Bones]

You ever been punched in the face?

[Luke Bryan]

I got punched in the face a couple times as a kid. Like neighborhood brawls, like.

[Bobby Bones]

Cause I wonder if that's what the feeling is at first. Like, if you get hit, you're like, oh God. Because you don't know what it is. And I assume when you get punched.

[Luke Bryan]

In the face, well, that the only. The more. The more thing is, I saw it coming at me. I didn't know if it was like a zincan or whatever, but I mean, I had one of my neighborhood buddies. Yeah, he. It kind of escalated faster than I thought. And he just popped me right in the lip and we had to figure it out later.

[Bobby Bones]

But did you pop him back?

[Luke Bryan]

No. I mean, he was a big kid. He got me good, you know.

[Bobby Bones]

Let me ask about another situation. You were in my home, Arkansas, and you refunded the whole show. We played a clip of that.

[Luke Bryan]

Yeah. So here's the deal. I've been playing that venue. Is it. It's Rogers Bentonville. And for some reason, that's the third terrible show I've had in a row there.

[Bobby Bones]

All three sick or just the other ones?

[Luke Bryan]

All three sick. All three. Chess Cole. And this time I was on stage as Covid was getting me and I didn't know it was. And then I just, I just. I mean that crowd and that audience has been so amazing to me. I mean that, that little. That, that. That venue is amazing. I love it. It's a brand new venue. All I want to do is go to Rogers, Arkansas, put on a great show in my life. Like, it may become like. It's going to become like your white.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, dude, yeah, yeah.

[Luke Bryan]

It's going to become a thing for me. And so the bottom line is, yeah, I got on stage, I woke up that morning. I never warm up. I don't. My voice typically is ready to rock. I woke up that morning and I could not breathe. And I said, jesus, this is happening in Rogers again. I started warming my voice up at 5:15pm I've got my guitar on the bus and I sang from 5:15 to my VIP thing at 7:30, I did some easy songs in my VIP.

[Bobby Bones]

So what's an easy song for you to sing?

[Luke Bryan]

Well, like, hunting, fishing is pretty easy for me. Country song came on. My current single is not like, a crazy vocal. Got to move a lot of air, and, man, I get on stage, and what. What. What's been happening to me is the. Like, my first couple of songs have been going great, and then I'm like, okay, I'm going to breathe, and I can't breathe. And then I just got up there midway or a couple songs in, and I said, here we are, Rogers. We're. I'm fixing to deliver another terrible show for y'. All. So I refunded the money, had two more shows that week. It was crazy because I had two more shows that week. I had sang so hard in Rogers, I probably blew my voice out. I wouldn't have done the other shows anyway. I mean. And then I got home, and I had these symptoms of just weirdness. And then I was like, yeah. I mean, I took a test, and it was Covid. And then I held up in my bed for or the room, watched a bunch of new shows and stuff like that, whatever. Stayed indoors, and then had some festivals the next week. And then I was just like, I just don't want to be on stage doing horrible concerts. That's like the worst. That's, like, where I'm at my lowest form of not being happy when I have to go try to. And so Eric Church stepped in and did those festivals.

[Bobby Bones]

How does that call go?

[Luke Bryan]

Well, we. Man, if the fans can take away anything from this interview is when this is going on, like, your brain and every fabric of your body becomes focused on getting better to do the concerts to the point to where it's like I said, it's about the lowest I get as a human being because I'm so frustrated that I'm sick, because I want to go out there and just smile and sing with ease. And when it's all clicking, that's when you see me being goofy and fun and cutting up. But when I'm having to just focus on every word to go out anyway. So we got a team of people gathered up, and I'm singing. I'm doing all my tricks at home. I go sit at my piano at home. I try to sing the hard songs. Nothing's coming out. I got 11 tractor trailers, and I got 12 tour buses idling in Nashville trying to determine do they leave Nashville and drive to Kansas. Well, if we send, you know, 11 all that. If we send the whole circus to Kansas on Tuesday to get to Kansas in Wednesday morning, I wake up, and my voice is worse. Then we got to turn all the trucks around. And, you know, that's a. That's a $500,000 loss right there, and maybe more. I don't know. I'll have to check it at the end of the year. We got to settle the taxes, But. But, you know, so it's a. It's a very, very frustrating, stressful, and we want this thing to go off for the fans. Well. Well, you know, we realize it's probably best. Well, we start. You know, I call my. My booking agent. We start calling people, and Eric's like, hey, I'm. Eric's had the weekend off, and he. He was able to go kind of. I think he did it acoustically or with Joanna Cotton and they. And he. He kind of subbed in. And. And I'm like, I love. I love the fact that I'll owe Eric, you know, if it happens to Eric at some point, you know, very happy. Stepped in. I. And. And I think maybe Friday and Saturday, I probably could have limped through the shows, but still, I don't even want to limp through them. I mean, man, I've been doing this for so many years, and it's like, I think the fans have. I think the fans. What's funny is in people are like, well, why did you let everybody know you had Covid? I'm like, because when you start reading socials and then the whole nother dynamic of what starts, people, then people are coming up with a whole nother narrative of why I'm not able to do the shows, which, you know, you can't chase all that. But. But, yeah, it hung around on me for about a month. I'd have a great show. I'd have a rough show. Like, I'd have a show in this. So, you know, in summer, allergies are me. For me, or have been tricky my whole life. I was like. I was the little kid on the inhaler, you know, when. And I was the kid that drank. Drank the pink, you know, the pink of my whole life. When I got sick. I mean, I don't think. I mean, my mama would be like, snotty nose, take this. It's probably. Anyway. Probably could have built a better immune system.

[Bobby Bones]

What songs of yours are the hardest for you to sing?

[Luke Bryan]

Man, I think, you know, roller Coaster is a very, very tough song. Like, Waves was really, really tough. But here's the deal. When my Nose and chest and lungs and voice are all in harmony. Man, I'm. I'm pretty. I'm pretty. I'm having a good time up there. But roller coasters are really tricky. 1.

[Bobby Bones]

You ever record one and go, man, now I gotta go sing this every night. Because it was very difficult to record in the studio.

[Luke Bryan]

Well, we, you know, me and my producer, we've been really good about my producer who's been with me for years. He knows where my voice is supposed to be and we'll go, we'll go in with a new song and I'll try to get him and he, he'll. He's got a note on the guitar and he's like, this is your note. And I'm like, but I can do it. He's like. And then after the fact, after we have the showdown in the studio, we argue it out. Then he always wins. And I'm glad. But you know, I think, man, I'm really lucky in I have a big old loud, booming, healthy voice that thank God I've never. When I'm going through this too, like me and my ent. Is that right?

[Amy Brown]

Ear, nose and throat.

[Luke Bryan]

Ear, nose and throat. We are actively talking 30 minutes a day trying to determine what's going on. And right when I get like, right when I got back from Rogers Friday morning, I went into the chair, he runs a camera up my nose. You know, I have that happen. You know, we're constantly checking my vocal cords and they're like, I mean, they're like I told somebody like the swamp things arm. You remember the swamp Thing's arm that got chopped off? No.

[Bobby Bones]

What's this?

[Luke Bryan]

You never. You don't remember the movie Swamp Thing?

[Bobby Bones]

Not a movie guy. Really?

[Luke Bryan]

Oh God.

[Bobby Bones]

Is that a big one?

[Luke Bryan]

Like it's like a big old easy 80s movie.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. I didn't even watch like Godfather.

[Luke Bryan]

Arm chopped off and it grows back. It's like my voice.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm looking at it now, it looks disgusting.

[Luke Bryan]

Swamp things arm?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Oh, is that what your nose Clear.

[Luke Bryan]

Was in that movie Fun fact. That was like. That was like her movie where you're like a nine year old kid and you're like, who is that?

[Bobby Bones]

I don't think I've ever seen Swamp Thing. I'm looking right at it. Okay, here's a few quick ones here. What's the coolest thing you've ever got for free?

[Luke Bryan]

The coolest thing I ever got for free was probably back in the day when I got to go to Carl Black Chevrolet and get my first truck.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh yeah.

[Luke Bryan]

And they used to do that with a lot of artists. And when you roll into a Chevrolet truck lot and you get to pick the biggest jacked up, shiniest wheels and drive off hips. Pretty badass.

[Bobby Bones]

The biggest fish you've ever caught?

[Luke Bryan]

I mean probably I've called like a 200 pound sailfish, but we've caught some 300 pound light bull sharks in the Gulf.

[Bobby Bones]

How long do you sit and fight that thing?

[Luke Bryan]

A bull shark? Yeah, they're fun on the first one or two but like when you're out there grouper and snapper fishing, they kind of. You'd rather, they kind of just.

[Bobby Bones]

You'd rather not. You have other priorities.

[Luke Bryan]

Yeah, we, you know, like we pulled us like. And then you make the mistake of pulling a bull shark onto the deck of your boat and don't ever do that because it's a bull shark. But you know, you want the big photo, you know, sitting there like, ah. But after. Yeah, what does it do?

[Eddie]

Does it just kind of.

[Luke Bryan]

Man, you know, they can do a couple leg swipes.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh wow. That like.

[Luke Bryan]

Oh yeah. It's like pulling a. Yeah, it's a problem.

[Bobby Bones]

How do you get it out?

[Luke Bryan]

You just start poking everything. Your gaffs, you just shove. Shovel it out the back door and just. And then. Yeah, they're bleeding everywhere and you got. I don't know.

[Bobby Bones]

What do you think the most misunderstood thing is about you?

[Luke Bryan]

The most misunderstood thing about me? I don't know. I think that. I think that I really care about this stuff and I think, gosh, that is.

[Bobby Bones]

Can I lend you one? Since I'm out, I'm out. Outside perspective, please.

[Luke Bryan]

That maybe that'll help me understand the most.

[Bobby Bones]

I think you're going there a little bit. But I think that the misunderstood thing about you is you're not just a dude who gets up there and shakes his butt and sings. And that's you as an artist. Like your music acumen is extremely high. I think the things that you do that people show on social media, a whole lot gets taken over for what you really are. And that is somebody who really understands music at even a molecular level. You play, you sing, you write, you play piano. Like I think, I think that would probably be what I think is the most misunderstood thing about you.

[Luke Bryan]

Well, I think when I was at. When I was in Vegas and I could go out there and do a 30 minute set on piano and guitar. And when you're in Vegas, 30% of the crowd may not even be be country music fans. And when I could kind of hold the room for that moment. I was like, I think that helped people maybe understand that. Yeah, you know, I don't understand why Luke Bryan wears tight jeans and that becomes the centerpiece rather than all, I mean hell, all the other tight jean wearing guys from.

[Bobby Bones]

Maybe you wear them better.

[Luke Bryan]

Everything about that, I mean, I mean some of them guys in the 90s, I mean, I mean their genes really showcased the front of their anatomy.

[Bobby Bones]

You're right. So let's work on that. Let's showcase some front man.

[Luke Bryan]

That can't really happen.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. This song going number one country song came on. Why did you pick this song?

[Luke Bryan]

Well, listen, I mean I think about where I'm at in my career. I think, listen, I mean I've had such a blessed career that I can be a. That I can be the fun guy that does kind of beach songs, party songs, bar songs, you know, back roads tailgates and the fishing songs and the hunting songs and, and I think, I think that, you know, I think people. There was a phase in my life when I was a 20 year old kid that for four years the only thing I played with my band was honky tonks that look and feel just like the honky tonk in country song came on. I mean we, we rolled into biker bars and we had to play David Allen Coe and we had to play. We had to play all the, the Haggard and the. And the Haggard and Willie and the. And, and, and Jennings. We had to play all those for years. So this, this, you know, this in. Etc. When I bring up Earl Thomas Connolly and. And all these, you know, Keith Whitley's of the World. I mean I played that stuff for years as a, as a, as a 19 year old kid. So this, this song really kind of pays homage to that kind of honky tonk lifestyle. And it's kind of a, you know, it's kind of a throwback sound for me and I think as long as I can, I can play in all the spaces of little lanes. And the fans feel like it's really authentic to me as an artist. I mean I love standing up there and just kind of delivering that song in a real relaxed singing situation where I'm not like let's party, let's go, you know. You know, so I've loved having it on the, having it out on the radio and obviously as it's nearing number one, you know, you start to see the fans kind of sway to it and had a real cool moment, you know, somewhere I was playing it and just Naturally, the fans threw their. Their. Their. Their lights up on their phones, so it felt really. Felt really cool. So I think as. As I'm entering into this phase of my career, I think, like, I'll look back and. Or I'll look ahead and go like, well, what I want to. What do I want to stand on stage and play this summer for the fans. Let's. Let's try to write the song, find the song, put it out, and go make a moment. It's kind of where I'm at.

[Bobby Bones]

What song does your audience go the craziest for during a live show?

[Luke Bryan]

I think it's a tie. I mean, I think when you look, well, this. I can't really tell between I don't want this night to end, Play It Again and Country Girl. I mean, Play It Again and Country Girl are. I mean, they're just. The fact that I get to do those for the rest of my life and watch people react to them is about as. I mean, you know, when you're doing, oh, my God, this is my song. And just watching the energy, it's really special and pretty. Pretty crazy.

[Bobby Bones]

Farm tour.

[Luke Bryan]

Farm Tour has been amazing. We. We went to California this year. It was. It was a riot. It was amazing. We got them coming up in the fall this year, and farm tours. Farm tours wild. I mean, 15, 20,000 people in a. In a. In a. In a wheat field. It's pretty.

[Bobby Bones]

It's literally somebody's farm, too.

[Luke Bryan]

It's people's farms. Occasionally we couldn't find a farm that worked, but, I mean, we walk out there and there's these farm and families, and they are happy we're there, and it's a good deal.

[Bobby Bones]

Farm tour, three dates. September 18th, 19th and 20th, Wisconsin, Illinois, and Michigan. And also Luke's country song came on tour, still rolling through September or even longer than that.

[Luke Bryan]

Yeah, we were wrapping around, like, right around Labor Day or after Labor Day. But when I had to reschedule, I think Dallas and Lafayette, Louisiana, that puts me into the rescheduled stuff in September. But I've kind of, you know, just so the fans know. I mean, my son Bo is playing football, so I've kind of loaded up, like, you're gonna see my summers be really, really heavy so I can do his football games in the fall.

[Bobby Bones]

Congratulations on another big song.

[Luke Bryan]

Thank you.

[Bobby Bones]

Great to see you. Glad you're healthy. Are you gonna go back to Arkansas, you think, ever? Well, I have to, because I'll go with you and we'll make a big deal. Let me know.

[Luke Bryan]

Yeah, let's do that. What I'd love to do is, like, do two nights there and like, just do two completely different shows. Two nights at like. And call it, like Flim Jam or something.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't like the name. The name's pretty disgusting. But the idea is great.

[Amy Brown]

Oh, yeah. In your throat.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Amy Brown]

No, no, because these are gonna be awesome shows.

[Bobby Bones]

Wait, we gotta come up with a Swamp Thing Nights. You know, all that just feels. But if. If you decide you want to do it, I'll.

[Luke Bryan]

A razor blade. Razorback throat.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, right. Oh, that's good.

[Luke Bryan]

There we go. Just give us a minute. Well, get ready, Rogers. We're coming to redemption. I'm gonna. I'm gonna do some Pavarotti songs. I'm gonna do two opera songs. Acapello, you know, Acapella, Star Spangled Banner. I'm gonna really show.

[Bobby Bones]

Showcase the vocals.

[Luke Bryan]

I'm gonna do my Christmas version of oh, Holy Night.

[Eddie]

Oh, Whitney Houston, Let it Roll.

[Luke Bryan]

I'm gonna do. Yes. Some. Some Whitney, some Celine Dion.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes.

[Amy Brown]

Can y' all see what. He's very passionate right now about this. And he's kind of like got his fist in the air.

[Luke Bryan]

My heart will go home. I will build a. I will build a temporary tip of the Titanic.

[Bobby Bones]

And you'll get on it, and we'll get on there.

[Luke Bryan]

We'll. We'll do a. We'll do a sweepstakes where a fan gets to win. And we can have our.

[Bobby Bones]

You hold the arms out and you hold them.

[Luke Bryan]

So there we go. Get ready.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Luke Bryan]

Night two.

[Bobby Bones]

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[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, Eddie, what do you have?

[Eddie]

Do you guys believe in everything happens for a reason? No, that is crazy.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't. I believe we all make choices and then if not, nobody would have to do anything ever. You just sit back and let fate happen. So no, I don't.

[Eddie]

But anyway, why Dude, I saw a TikTok that's gonna blow your mind and maybe change your mind on this. It's Owen Wilson talking about kind of something that happened when he was a kid and kind of helped him become an actor.

[Unknown]

I went to military school. I got kicked out of high school.

[Luke Bryan]

For what? Cheating.

[Unknown]

So something that seemed like a terrible thing at the time, getting kicked out. And my poor dad was on the board of trustees. That's embarrassing for my family and, you know, to be kicked out for cheating. But if I hadn't gone to military school, my roommate at military school, who was good friends with Wes Anderson, and that's how I ended up meeting Wes, so we would never have gotten into, you know, the entertainment.

[Eddie]

Come on. Come on. If he wouldn't have gotten kicked out of school and gone to military school, where he met his roommate, and his roommate knew Wes Anderson, the big director, he would never become an actor. Everything happens for a reason.

[Amy Brown]

Well, in the way he became an actor, he wouldn't have.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. I think. In my opinion, I think fate or everything happening for a reason is a way for people to feel comfortable with what's happened in their life. Like, that is a bit of structure that you can go, well, it's supposed to happen this way because it's supposed to happen this way. But I think using this story specifically, you are minimizing all the hard work that they did in military school, all the risks they took in writing and moving to la. You're minimizing all that and just going, well, fate did that. Fate didn't do all that.

[Eddie]

We had to do a little bit of work, but he would have never been Sanderson.

[Bobby Bones]

What if they didn't do the work? Like, we're going to end up somewhere, regardless of where we end up, based on decisions and choices that we make. And wherever we end up, we can go. Yeah, fate put us here. What if he was supposed to be a heart surgeon, but he ended up cheating and he wasn't now a heart surgeon to save 500 people because he cheated on a test and now he's an actor and not really saving any lives?

[Eddie]

You don't think that there's anything crazy about him meeting Wes Anderson threw a mistake where probably when he got caught cheating and got kicked out, he was like, this is the worst thing in my life. Like, it's over. Like, I'm going to military school. What's going to happen?

[Bobby Bones]

I think people make decisions and choices and then they either suffer the repercussions of them or if it's a positive one. They, you know, collect the rewards from it. And I think everything is based off of that decision, or even micro decisions. It's a domino effect. I do not think that, to me, that actually is the opposite of what fate is. That is, had he not done all the work, all the little minor things with Wes Anderson through all those years, none of it would have ever happened. And by you going, that's fate, and he's now famous again, it minimizes all the work that went in. And I think if fate was absolutely real, we would have to do nothing. We could sit on the couch all day and do nothing and just let it happen. Like, that is what you're saying fate is.

[Eddie]

But then your fate at that point is to just sit on the couch and do nothing.

[Bobby Bones]

So what you're saying is fate is whatever you decide it to be, so you get to actually make the choices as to what happens with you.

[Unknown]

Some people, like, this is like McConaughey when he went to the bar and met the director. That's fate. That is fate.

[Eddie]

That's fate, man.

[Bobby Bones]

No, that is something that happened. And he made some great decisions after that chance meeting that ended up turning into those situations, those opportunities.

[Amy Brown]

Bobby, are you open to a combo of it?

[Bobby Bones]

I'm open to anything. Except for his explanation of Owen Wilson being where he is because of faith.

[Amy Brown]

And that's like the viral thing online right now is your butterfly effect. And, like, what decision did you make that then led to all these other different things in your life now, because of that one decision, like me running into Bobby at Culver's and being a listener of the show and being like, is that Bobby Bones? And then deciding to go over and say hi to him. I could have just. I could have just.

[Eddie]

You don't think somebody put Bobby Bones there for you?

[Amy Brown]

Maybe I'm with a combo of it, but also, like, a lot of other things had to happen after that meeting.

[Bobby Bones]

For then, no, it's fade. You got all this for just fate.

[Eddie]

Well, I think we all are here because of faith.

[Amy Brown]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

You don't think it's because the choices that you've made to do hard work?

[Eddie]

No chance.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, maybe you not. But Amy, for sure, not all of us.

[Eddie]

All of us do this clip.

[Bobby Bones]

When I hear minimizing any effort or any. Anything that people are doing to actually get places, you're minimizing by going, no, it's just bound to happen whether you put in the work or not.

[Eddie]

But some people don't work their butt off so hard. And then end up just doing. I mean, they get a good job and they're fine, but they're not doing their big dream job. And.

[Bobby Bones]

But that's. But that's their fate then, according to you. Because it is.

[Eddie]

Then they weren't meant to do that.

[Bobby Bones]

For whatever reason they're choosing.

[Amy Brown]

Maybe they are choosing to not. So I work to put themselves in certain situations where maybe something.

[Eddie]

No, but I'm saying some people work at something and never get there because that was just never meant to happen.

[Bobby Bones]

Maybe they didn't make a correct strategic decision based upon an opportunity they had.

[Eddie]

Dang. I saw this clip and I'm like, it's gonna change Bobby's mind. None of this part.

[Amy Brown]

He said he's open to a combo of it, though. Because I have a combo of it. And sort of like when you get caught cheating, okay, now you can either let this take you down a path of like, oh, yeah, I'm a loser, or okay, what is now possible for me because of this?

[Bobby Bones]

It's also being prepared when something happens. And it takes time, energy, effort to be prepared when something happens. Nobody I know that's walked into an opportunity. They weren't completely unprepared for the opportunity. They had been practicing getting ready, and then they meet someone that allows them to continue that journey and, like, even.

[Amy Brown]

As part of our faith. Because, Eddie, I know you're a Christian and, like, in our prayers or our desires and expressing those, like, it's not like God's. Like, okay, pray for it and just sit back like, yeah, you gotta make. You have free will like you can.

[Bobby Bones]

But if you don't do the action, you should still get it according to you, right?

[Eddie]

No, the opportunity, though, like, the opportunity is not the right thing.

[Bobby Bones]

But that's not everyone. But you're not explaining. Sure.

[Eddie]

I think opportunity of being an actor was there for Owen.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, it wasn't there. Wes Anderson was nothing. Neither one of them were. They worked together. Neither one of them wasn't. Like, Wes Anderson was already a massive director.

[Eddie]

No, but they weren't supposed to be together and make movies together.

[Bobby Bones]

You could have met someone else.

[Eddie]

You and I being together and make music together and do things together. The way we met too, is weird. Like everything you and I.

[Bobby Bones]

But what you're saying is we did meet and we were able to forge something. I could have met somebody way more funnier than you. That's my true.

[Eddie]

No one funnier than that.

[Bobby Bones]

They could have.

[Amy Brown]

Take that back.

[Eddie]

Take that back right now. It's fate.

[Unknown]

I think it could be a little.

[Amy Brown]

Bit of, like, who knows if you're praying for something? Like, it could be like, you get a little nudge from, you know, God to be like, hey, maybe you should go get that coffee today. Or, hey. And then you're like, oh, man, I kind of just had this, like, feeling during my prayer time this morning. I should go to this coffee shop today. And then, boom, I met somebody. So you were put in the right place at the right time because you were actively willing and praying, but you're also doing other things. Like, I think it could be a combo.

[Bobby Bones]

I believe the decisions you make are the decisions that you make for your life. Every decision, every micro decision ends up being a product. Whatever that product is, is based on you and the work that you put in, the decisions you made, the work you didn't put in, the decision you didn't make. And I think that there's a comfortability for people to think that everything is happens for a reason, because that means, well, regardless of what happens, it was supposed to happen for a reason. I do believe that's like a safety structure people have.

[Eddie]

Okay. And I don't think I would change your mind.

[Bobby Bones]

Owen Wilson being in a golf show on Apple plus was fate.

[Eddie]

Boy, late. What do you mean? Like, that later.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, like, but. But all that's a product of that.

[Eddie]

I know, but that's just crazy. What if he.

[Bobby Bones]

What if he's done, like, some bad stuff we don't know about, but it's only because he got famous because Wes Anderson and him work together. So fate. Was him supposed to any.

[Eddie]

You know, sometimes. Sometimes that's put there, too, to learn a lesson.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, no, I believe we have complete free will.

[Amy Brown]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Oh, well, 100%. No, you can't raise my right hand right now because I wanted to.

[Bobby Bones]

You can't believe both. You can't believe.

[Eddie]

You can't.

[Bobby Bones]

But it's.

[Eddie]

Things are put in front of you for a reason. Sometimes you get opportunities over and over, and then you don't take them. And then after a while, you're just like, all right, well, you're not going to do it anyway.

[Amy Brown]

Oh, that's like you with donating your organs or your business.

[Eddie]

Like, maybe my fate is to donate a kidney, but I just keep putting it off.

[Amy Brown]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

But then, no, your fate. You have to live to your fate, apparently, is what you're saying. You have to do it if it's supposed to be done.

[Eddie]

I think it's gonna happen regardless.

[Bobby Bones]

If you believe in fate. You can believe that you just sit back and really not put in the work and everything's gonna happen. That's fate.

[Amy Brown]

But can you believe in fate and putting in the work? Cause that's where I am.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, you can believe in whatever you want. There are no rules and what you can and can't believe. I can't even prove that my side is right, but I definitely don't believe it.

[Eddie]

Definitely not.

[Bobby Bones]

I believe that the more work you do and the more prepared you are for when an opportunity happens, the better chances you have to make that opportunity happen.

[Amy Brown]

Absolutely.

[Bobby Bones]

And I think people that possibly don't do that just believe in fate.

[Amy Brown]

Probably pretty. A little bit of fate that you went to the Dancing with the Stars show and ended up being there and you all got to go.

[Bobby Bones]

I already knew that. I think I had to work hard to get invited back as I won the championship.

[Amy Brown]

I know you did.

[Bobby Bones]

And so. But yeah, I think all of that is.

[Eddie]

Is your wife though. Your wife also.

[Amy Brown]

You were putting in the work to make yourself available for meeting somebody and wanting and finding somebody to love.

[Bobby Bones]

It could have been a different scenario. It could have been. Not at all. But I think all those decisions played into a way that, that presented itself because of all the work, all the effort, all the strategy put forth through my career through that show. Listen, I was offered a different show instead of going on Dancing with the Stars. I didn't do it right. I could have easily done that show and died in a car wreck walking to the set. Yeah, but that would have been. That.

[Eddie]

That would have been your fate.

[Bobby Bones]

No, it wouldn't have done it. No, it wouldn't. So you just count. You just contradicted yourself. You just contradicted yourself then. Because that's not my fate. Because I didn't do it.

[Eddie]

No, it would have been if that would have happened. What I'm saying is what's happening now is your fate.

[Bobby Bones]

What's happening now is a product of all of the decisions and micro decisions I make every single day. And if I believed otherwise, then I would do nothing. I would not put in the work.

[Unknown]

So there's no fate at all. It's all just hard work.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't think. Well, one, I don't believe really in luck either.

[Eddie]

Oh man. I've seen you in Vegas.

[Bobby Bones]

I know.

[Eddie]

Here we go.

[Unknown]

I've seen you at the roulette.

[Amy Brown]

There's a little bit of that too. Cuz for some people they're just lottery winners.

[Bobby Bones]

Some people have. Some people have their hook in the water more than others.

[Amy Brown]

I'M not even talking about you. There's just some people out there that.

[Bobby Bones]

And I think people that always claim other people are lucky or I got fate are the people that don't do the work. That's what I think. That's my real feeling on that. But I can't prove that I'm right, and you can't prove you're right. So we can sit and discuss this all day long. You know, people have done complete dissertations, like some of the greatest theologians of all time. They've, you know, but what do they know?

[Eddie]

Like, it's what. It's fate, dude. It's not what they're thinking.

[Amy Brown]

Some people are unlucky.

[Luke Bryan]

Like.

[Eddie]

Oh, yeah.

[Amy Brown]

Do you see that bit going?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. I think it's easy to say it's your fate because then that means that somebody else. Something else has complete control over you. I believe something else has given me complete control of my own actions and they have put the burden on me to make good or bad decisions. Like, lately, it's fate for, like, a child molester to be a child molester? Well, no, I'm just asking, is it fate for a child molester to be a child molester? Because you think everything that happens is happening for a reason.

[Eddie]

That's.

[Unknown]

I'm going to distance myself from Eddie now.

[Bobby Bones]

Right?

[Eddie]

That's something where I don't. Like, I don't.

[Bobby Bones]

No, no, no. Your. Your blanket statement is, of course, I.

[Eddie]

Mean, that's their fate.

[Amy Brown]

A lot of evil in the world is very hard to understand, but that.

[Eddie]

But that is still fate.

[Bobby Bones]

So child molesters are by fate. Child molesters.

[Eddie]

I have to think about that one, man. Think about that one. But okay, I don't know. Fate. It's a crazy conversation. And when I saw this clip, I thought this would change your mind, but obviously it didn't.

[Bobby Bones]

If, like, a version of me came to me in, like, a dream and had a little talk with me, you'd believe it. And then I met, like, the ghost of fate past and stuff. Maybe I believe it, but I just. I'm wired to believe, based on all my decisions and the things I've been able to do, that it's all decisions and micro decisions. But it is. It is more comfortable in life to believe that there is an absolute plan for you. I believe there was. I was made. Given autonomy over myself to make absolute decisions. And if I. And if I make bad decisions, that's on me. So do you think the fate is for some people to go to hell?

[Eddie]

No. I mean, that's. Again, you're taking things.

[Bobby Bones]

But you're not answering a question. No, you're talking about something bigger. You're talking about something bigger. So is. I'm just asking, do you believe it's the fake? Because if people go to hell, which, as a Christian, you believe.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

If some people. Is it their fate to go to hell?

[Eddie]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, but everything happens and is all fate.

[Eddie]

Yeah, but you can change that.

[Bobby Bones]

No, no, you can't change.

[Eddie]

You literally can change that one.

[Bobby Bones]

You cannot. If it's all fate, you cannot.

[Eddie]

100%.

[Bobby Bones]

Fate means there is an absolute plan. Here's the beginning, middle, and end over.

[Eddie]

You can also, too. I believe you can ch. You can battle your fate, and that's where your free will can take you somewhere else.

[Bobby Bones]

But that's different than what fate is, because by your logic, then where you battle and where you end up was actually your fate to begin with.

[Unknown]

This is getting ugly for Eddie.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, that's all right.

[Eddie]

It's not ugly for me. I believe. I still believe what I believe. I just like.

[Bobby Bones]

So you believe what you believe, even though you hear other perspectives that are countering what you've said you believe?

[Eddie]

I don't really. Those perspectives are just to throw off what I believe?

[Bobby Bones]

No, no, no. It is. It's a presentation of what you believe.

[Eddie]

You say it's just comfortable. Like, my life isn't comfor 247 even.

[Bobby Bones]

If I believe that's what makes you comfortable.

[Eddie]

Like, sometimes being your friend isn't comfortable, but it's still fate.

[Bobby Bones]

But I'm saying that's what makes you feel comfortable. That regardless of what happens, it was supposed to. You can't do better because it was supposed to be this way.

[Eddie]

Correct. And you can change the trajectory of.

[Bobby Bones]

The definition of fate is. You can't change it.

[Eddie]

You can. You can. You have free will, but your fate is there. Like your fate, whatever was happening, there's a scenario that's put around you. Whatever you want to do around it is up to you.

[Bobby Bones]

No, that's called free will. That's not fate.

[Eddie]

The scenario that you're in is fate.

[Bobby Bones]

No. The beginning, middle and end. The end is fate. I don't think you know what fate means.

[Eddie]

I do. I know what I believe fate is. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Fate is the development of events beyond a person's control. You're saying you can control fate at some point, but the actual definition of fate is you can't control the events at all. So you're saying now you can control fate, then you don't believe in fate.

[Eddie]

I believe in free will.

[Bobby Bones]

No, that's.

[Eddie]

I believe in different than fate.

[Bobby Bones]

I just know it's not.

[Eddie]

We still have free will, but fate is there. Whatever.

[Bobby Bones]

Free will and fate the same thing. Answer the question.

[Amy Brown]

Well, remember how I believe in, like, a combo?

[Bobby Bones]

Just answer the question. Is faith and free will the same thing?

[Eddie]

You can't believe in a combo.

[Amy Brown]

Exactly.

[Bobby Bones]

No, no, I didn't say that.

[Eddie]

That's what you're saying.

[Bobby Bones]

No, I didn't. You're not even hearing now. You're so. You're so blocked.

[Eddie]

You're saying if one is one, fate is fate. Free will is free will. Then you can have both. Believing in both is a combo.

[Bobby Bones]

But you say you can change fate. That's not the definition of fate. Fate is not the ability to change it. It is.

[Eddie]

You have no faith in believing in both. Is believing in both possible?

[Bobby Bones]

You can believe in anything. You can believe that I'm a dinosaur.

[Unknown]

I don't.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't care. But fate itself. You're not a dinosaur, but fate itself is predetermined. And there's. The definition of. It is an absolute end.

[Amy Brown]

It is absolute. See, I don't know the exact, exact definition of fate, but I think that we do. We can have circumstances of like, wow, like I talked about meeting you, I think that that was a situation that was right place, right time. That was like, part. This is part of my story. Like, this was.

[Bobby Bones]

I think you're more of a destiny person then.

[Amy Brown]

Yeah, I guess. I don't know what it's called, but I. I see where Eddie is coming from. I see where you're coming from.

[Bobby Bones]

He's not using the correct words because he doesn't believe in fate then. Because fate is iron. Fate is ironclad. It's absolutely predicted.

[Eddie]

Well, you brought in fate. I was literally just talking about everything happens.

[Amy Brown]

But, like.

[Bobby Bones]

So, no, you brought in fate.

[Amy Brown]

It is.

[Luke Bryan]

No, no.

[Eddie]

Everything happens for a reason. Is that fate.

[Amy Brown]

It is kind of crazy at times when things are orchestrated in a way that, like, don't make sense and it starts to come together and you know that it seems more supernatural than just like. It's like, this was divine.

[Bobby Bones]

But I think it could have come together in a different way and you'd have felt the same way and you wouldn't have known. They wouldn't have come together had they happened in a different way. That is, you had never had the comparison.

[Amy Brown]

That is true. I think that. Yeah, I think that there are just circumstances to me, that have felt I guess the word that I would use now that's coming to my mind would be orchestrated and divine and felt like an opportunity. That, yes, I had to make certain decisions to nurture it and then see what was going to come from it. But I think was, I'm grateful that it was put in my path and I think could be a gift.

[Eddie]

Sure.

[Bobby Bones]

But that's not fate.

[Amy Brown]

Okay, well, that's just part of my faith.

[Eddie]

The words are very similar, whatever the word is. I don't know.

[Luke Bryan]

Yeah, I think.

[Bobby Bones]

I think I've shifted, Eddie. I feel very successful here today.

[Eddie]

No, no, I brought you. No, I brought you a clip to shift you.

[Bobby Bones]

Yours was about fate.

[Eddie]

The clip didn't shift you at all.

[Bobby Bones]

No, it further cemented that we are presented with opportunities constantly, but we're only presented to them if. If we get us, if we like Amy would have she not decided to go to a restaurant? I would never met her. She had to make the decision.

[Amy Brown]

Well, it was not even just like, I had to make the decision to come over. I wasn't for sure for sure that it was you. And I had to awkwardly come over and say, are you Bobby Bones? And then things snowballed from there. Like, a lot of different things had to snowball and make it possible. Like, or even when I was deciding to leave my job to come join this show, I remember feeling very uneasy about it and going to my mom and my mom, like, being like, well, let's pray about it. So we prayed about it. And then my mom, I felt like I looked to her as a guide. And in that moment, she told me, like, if there's any or any age where you can just up and make a shift like this when you're single and don't have any responsibilities. I made that move, but I did it prayerfully. And then I started to see, like, oh, wow, maybe Bobby was placed at that restaurant for a reason. And now this is my path. But I had to make choices.

[Bobby Bones]

There's too much evil in the world for me to believe that those things happen for a reason. I believe those are choices people make. The evil is what makes it. Like child molesters, murderers. Like, that's not faith.

[Amy Brown]

I mean, I think that saying is one of the most. One of the things we need to eliminate when something terrible happens to somebody or, you know, and sometimes a comforting phrase, quote, unquote, comforting that people think is. Is like, oh, well, you know, everything. Everything happens for a reason.

[Bobby Bones]

And that's my point. That's a comfortable structure that people say so they feel. So they feel better about whatever the situation is. Mm.

[Amy Brown]

Yeah. But I do think that certain things do happen to us and how we handle it and how we move forward. Like that. That question. What. What is now possible because of this? And that can be your trajectory. Do you want to go, like, down this path that's probably pretty terrible because something terrible happened to you, or do you now get to shift it and use it for good and come alongside others that have gone through terrible things and.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, but that's. You get it and make that decision.

[Amy Brown]

Yes. That's your free will.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

So do we believe in. It's. If it's your time to go, it's your time to go.

[Bobby Bones]

No, I don't. But again, I can't prove anything is true or false, because I can't. It's not a tangible thing. There is. There's nothing that you can prove it. My only point was, by Eddie's definition, he's not accurate in his belief.

[Eddie]

I don't even know what definition you're talking about. Like, there was no definition.

[Bobby Bones]

All I literally said it was faith.

[Eddie]

All I said was, do you believe in everything happens for a reason?

[Bobby Bones]

And I said, no.

[Eddie]

You put a word into it. Like, I just. That's all I'm saying with this clip that I brought you to is, like, do you believe in everything happens for a reason? Good things, bad things? That's it.

[Bobby Bones]

No, because, again, I would have to believe that child molesters, murderers, pedophiles, all happen for a reason, and I don't believe that. Or that you go to hell, and that's a reason. That's why I don't believe that.

[Eddie]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

And I think, again, it's a comfortable structure to think that, because that's an easy way out to blame your problems on something else. That's my personal belief.

[Amy Brown]

Okay, Bones, I kind of just want to go to lunchbox. Where do you fall on this heaven now, man. Bye.

[Unknown]

Eddie brought it. Starting with fate.

[Eddie]

Like, no, I never said fate. I never said the word fate.

[Unknown]

Hold on, hold on.

[Amy Brown]

He said, do you believe everything happens for a reason?

[Eddie]

That's all I said.

[Unknown]

That's what he said in the beginning?

[Eddie]

Yes.

[Luke Bryan]

Oh, man.

[Unknown]

I thought you introduced fate.

[Eddie]

No, Bobby, but you bring in words and definitions. I'm like, dude, I didn't study everything.

[Bobby Bones]

Happens, but everything happens for a reason is fate.

[Eddie]

Like, you are cerebral. You think, you read about things, you learn about things. I'm like, that's great. There's other people.

[Luke Bryan]

I didn't have time for that I'm.

[Eddie]

Like, dude, I believe this because I've seen it with my own eyes. I believe it. That's all I'm saying. And then this TikTok clip came up. I'm like, ooh, I'm gonna bring this for Bobby. Okay, that's it.

[Bobby Bones]

What do you got?

[Amy Brown]

Okay. While often used interchangeably, everything happens for a reason and fate are not precisely the same.

[Eddie]

Let's go, baby.

[Amy Brown]

You want me to keep going?

[Bobby Bones]

No, I don't believe everything happens for a reason.

[Eddie]

But who's saying this, too? Like, that's what I'm saying. Like, who's saying this stuff?

[Bobby Bones]

But again, if everything happens for a reason, I Googled it, and we can end this.

[Amy Brown]

But I didn't.

[Bobby Bones]

If everything happens for a reason, why do pedophiles. Why do people go to hell? Why do. Why is there murder? Why are the babies die?

[Unknown]

Yeah, there's no good out of that. There's no good out of that.

[Amy Brown]

What I wanted to know, because I haven't thought about this, and I do want to think more about it. This is bringing up a good question. And I. Eddie, you should want to research it and figure it out so we can do that. But it's. I just Googled is everything happens for a reason, the same thing as fate? And now I'll read more into it. I don't have to do it here with y', all, but it says here they often are used interchangeable, but they're not precisely the same. And now I'm curious to see what people say about it. And I'll read different articles.

[Unknown]

Yeah, because, like, this is just an AI child. Pedophiles.

[Luke Bryan]

What?

[Unknown]

Everything happens for a reason. What reason is that? Like, tell me what that's.

[Amy Brown]

I think as a person of faith, that's one of the most difficult things to understand is the evil of the world.

[Bobby Bones]

And that's what keeps me from believing everything happens for a reason. Or fate is. That is the evil of the world. And people go, what's a greater plan? A greater plan that a kid gets. No, I don't. That's not a great plan that I believe in. If a kid has to be.

[Amy Brown]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Or we're using the worst.

[Amy Brown]

I know. Or natural disasters. I mean, all of it. Yeah, it's. It's hard to comprehend.

[Bobby Bones]

It is hard to comprehend. Okay, good talk, everybody.

[Eddie]

You know, that was heavy.

[Amy Brown]

I haven't even finished.

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, don't bring a knife to a gunfight.

[Luke Bryan]

What do you mean?

[Eddie]

I brought a clip of Owen Wilson.

[Unknown]

What was the clip? I Don't remember the clip.

[Amy Brown]

I do.

[Bobby Bones]

Owen Wilson would have never. If had he not met Wes Anderson. He would have never been.

[Eddie]

No, no, no. If he wouldn't have gotten kicked out of school for cheating.

[Amy Brown]

I mean, Eddie was doing more of like. Yeah. So at Lunchbox. Have you seen the butterfly effect online? And people make all these videos now.

[Bobby Bones]

I do believe in that one small action affects actions everywhere.

[Unknown]

Oh, yeah, that's a ripple effect. Like the starfish thing you used to tell us.

[Luke Bryan]

Well, no, that's.

[Bobby Bones]

We got too many effects happening here.

[Amy Brown]

I haven't even finished my coffee. Can we.

[Eddie]

I need a drink.

[Bobby Bones]

No. I would do this for four hours.

[Eddie]

I know you would.

[Bobby Bones]

This is like what I read and I love it. And I know I'm also. There's no way to be right. But that doesn't mean I don't have feelings on it. But also, I'm not going to scream. I'm the only right one because I believe that would actually be against everything I'm also arguing for.

[Amy Brown]

Okay, can I just say one quick thing about. Because this is what Eddie was saying, I think this might help him. But it goes on to say here, everything happens for a reason suggests a purposeful, often beneficial underlying cause for every event. While fate implies a predetermined course of events that cannot be altered. So you were. When you brought in fate. Yes, that is the definition. Cannot be altered. But I don't know that Eddie was. Eddie, were you saying that?

[Eddie]

I never talking about. I was never talking about fate.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, you were, because you were like, everything is supposed to happen is supposed to happen.

[Eddie]

That's fate according to Amy's definition. It's not.

[Amy Brown]

No, no. AI overview.

[Eddie]

AI overview.

[Bobby Bones]

All right, I thank you guys and we will see you tomorrow on the show. Send us all your messages. Thanks for being a part tour and you guys have a good rest of the Tuesday. All right, bye everybody. This episode of the Bobby Bones show is brought to you by Chase Sapphire Reserve. Traveling is one of life's greatest joys. Honestly, can anything be more exhilarating? Yeah, it can. With Chase Sapphire Reserve, it's your getaway to the world's most captivating destinations. First, you'll earn eight times points on all purchases through Chase Travel. And the card gets you into the Sapphire Lounge by the club at select airports nationwide and access to one of a kind experiences. Whether you are booking a once in a lifetime trip or your next weekend escape, discover more with Chase sapphire [e-mail] Sapphire Reserve cards issued by JPMorgan Chase Bank NA member FDIC subject to credit approval terms apply.

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