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Bobby Bones
All right, let's go around the room. Let's go to. I'd like to look at you on the faces and see who I feel good about. Morgan, you go first.
Morgan
All right. So everybody knows Mr. Feeney, right? Oh, yeah. Well, him and his wife are about to celebrate 75 years together. Really exciting. But they've had an open marriage for a long time. She came out in her memoir, talked about things, affairs she's had over the course of their whole marriage.
Bobby Bones
Not an affair if it's open.
Morgan
Yeah, and it was like a pin. She said that it was an affair, but then said that they had an open marriage.
Amy
But.
Morgan
But they've also never discussed having an open marriage, so. Interesting.
Eddie
That is interesting.
Bobby Bones
Is it open if you've never talked about it being open?
Eddie
No, that would be an affair.
Bobby Bones
Or is it closed and you just go, eh, that sucks. Move on.
Eddie
No, you kind of have to discuss this.
Bobby Bones
I think so, too. I did see the story. He's in his 90s now. Right.
Amy
Wow. Yeah.
Lunchbox
So is she. But it was so weird. Like, if you actually read it, it says that they did this back in the 70s. And then that he went, she did it first. And then he had a little affair with a producer or something. And then she was like, I'm not for this open marriage thing.
Amy
Yeah.
Morgan
And she said there's never a discussion as what they were gonna do. But she said that after 75 years together, you know, it'd be abnormal if we weren't attracted occasionally to other people. So there's. There have been times, both of us on each side, that things have happened.
Eddie
Are they still married?
Amy
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. And they're both alive.
Eddie
Wait, she's 99.
Bobby Bones
Wow. Why is she writing a memoir?
Eddie
Right. Is she famous?
Morgan
She's an actress.
Bobby Bones
Got it.
Morgan
So I think that's where that's coming from.
Bobby Bones
Who is she?
Morgan
She was in Love of Life.
Bobby Bones
Don't know what that is. I saw the headline, feeney admits to open marriage. But it sounds like maybe they both had affairs and then they were both just like, we're both okay with it. Let's just move on and not do it again.
Lunchbox
Yeah, that's what it sounded like when I read it.
Amy
No, but she said we never sat down, made any rules. We just live our lives, and if he's away for a year, he's away for a year.
Eddie
Sounds like her side of the story.
Lunchbox
Yeah, but if you read farther down, I'm telling you, like, she said this, like, in the 70s, this went on then she was like, this open marriage thing's not for me.
Amy
Okay, gotcha. But he would leave for a year.
Morgan
Yeah. She said our lives just went on. We never got unhinged. But our lives did go in different directions occasionally. It's like they haven't had an open marriage, but it was not.
Bobby Bones
It sounds like they had a post understanding. Not a pre understanding, but a post understanding. Oh, after they both cheated, there's an understanding. Well, we both did. It ain't for us anymore. Let's move on. If you never talked about it before, but then you did it, and if you did it and you didn't want the other person to know and they found out, and then you both found out and you're like, ah, we're okay with it. I feel like that's kind of a post understanding. But regardless, Mr. Feeny, when I first read it, I thought they had it now, and I think they're in their 90s. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Morgan
So, I mean, it worked for them, they're celebrating 75 years together.
Bobby Bones
I'm definitely not going to relationship shame anyone if they're happy. If you're not hurting people, do whatever you want. You can poop on each other. I don't give a crap. Hey, pun. But if it works for you, it works for you. If you don't hurt anybody else, that's awesome. Do whatever. Do whatever your relationship allows you to do if you're both happy. All right, Amy.
Amy
Speaking of relationships, Taylor and Travis are getting married, and I was reading a little bit about their prenup situation. Apparently, they're trying to figure out what state they're gonna file the prenup in, because every state has different laws. Taylor is worth an estimated 2 billion. Travis comes in at about 90 million, which. That was a lot higher than I thought.
Bobby Bones
Hey, he broke poor. He broke.
Amy
That's definitely not broke. That's way higher than I thought. If you were to say, what do you think Travis Kelsey's worth?
Bobby Bones
I would have said 45 million.
Amy
Yeah, about that. Half. That half of what he is. So it's worth a lot. I feel like when you both make that much, can't you just, like, I don't know, write down, like, you keep what's yours, I keep what's mine. Sign here.
Bobby Bones
It's about more than that. It's about, like, intellectual property that's created, too, while they're together.
Amy
Okay. Minus our intellectual property.
Bobby Bones
I think there are just a lot of those elements of creation that you have to decide. She creates it, and it's part of her Taylor Swift empire. Music. Anything that's.
Lunchbox
She has so much more going on. I mean, she has so much more that she's gonna have to have all this stuff written because he has, what, a couple footballs and a podcast.
Amy
The lucky states in the running for the prenup. Rhode Island, Missouri, Kansas, Tennessee, and New York.
Bobby Bones
Also. They don't know this is true.
Amy
This is just speculation from folks through our sources.
Bobby Bones
Exactly.
Eddie
That's kind of my problem with all this Travis Taylor news.
Lunchbox
Never happened.
Eddie
He knows, like, what's real.
Bobby Bones
They're locking it all down.
Eddie
Yeah.
Amy
Okay.
Eddie
Because I used to fall. That used to be my beat, too. I used to fall for all of it. And then I'm like, no one knows
Bobby Bones
this could be happening. I'm sure they are discussing a pre.
Eddie
Yeah. But, like, oh, the venue has been. They know where it is. Like, no. And then they come out later. Like, no, they don't. That was not it.
Bobby Bones
I would imagine that a lot of it is Again, the intellectual property they both create remains theirs regardless of how much money is made from it while they're together.
Amy
So they could also go the Ben and JLO route and go without a prenup.
Bobby Bones
Well, if you have so much, that is an easy thing to do because a judge is not going to go, hey, you've only made 90 million. I think she needs to do spousal support for you. So if there is a level, you get to where it is actually somewhat accepted that you don't need a prenup if both people are significant, because a judge literally is not going to go, Travis Kelsey needs spousal support.
Eddie
Yeah. And if they're pretty level. Right.
Bobby Bones
Like, but they're not level.
Lunchbox
They're not 90 million.
Bobby Bones
Oh, I thought you meant.
Eddie
No, I'm saying JLo, Ben.
Amy
I feel like JLO has way more money than Ben Affleck.
Bobby Bones
I don't know.
Eddie
Yeah, I don't know about that.
Bobby Bones
But we speculate on things that we kind of know they made. We have no idea the investments they've made.
Eddie
Sure.
Bobby Bones
We have no idea the property they've sold. We have no idea. So whenever you see this stuff online, this person's worth this much. It's only based on the things that they know the folks are doing professionally. A lot of the stuff is done with financial advisors. And you're probably making more money off things you're not doing publicly than you are.
Eddie
Yeah, I was, I was at the dentist and I saw a rod is like, own this, like, denture company. There was a poster with a rod like, hey, my dentures.
Bobby Bones
Miles Teller ended up selling a company and making like $100 million or something. Yeah. And he's like, I'm still gonna act. But it's like, when you make money, you have to invest the money. And sometimes you make more money by investing the money than you did even in your high dollar jobs when you're acting or playing ball. So cool. That's what's up. He said pretty cool.
Eddie
Pretty cool.
Lunchbox
That's pretty cool.
Eddie
That much money.
Bobby Bones
But you could also make money making medium money.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
And make more money than you would make if you were. But it's not just about having high money. It's about having medium money or even low money. Man, people were just railing Eddie for that one podcast we did when you were just telling him about his.
Eddie
They were railing me?
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Amy
Wait, for what?
Eddie
For what?
Bobby Bones
When you were telling him he needed to. His. His medical card, he was like, you guys don't understand.
Amy
And, oh, maxing out your HSA card.
Eddie
Were they talking to Amy?
Bobby Bones
Amy didn't understand.
Eddie
No, you. Oh, me?
Bobby Bones
Because if you were going to spend that money anyway, you're say overall saving so much money for the year, you have more money, but it doesn't matter. But yeah, you were getting hit pretty hard.
Eddie
Yeah, and no one knows my financials, so.
Bobby Bones
But then. No, that's not the point. It's.
Eddie
It's the point.
Amy
It sounds like you don't know your financials.
Eddie
I do.
Lunchbox
Your wife does.
Eddie
I know my expenses that don't have to do with medical.
Amy
I know, but you're.
Eddie
I need.
Bobby Bones
Okay, but I'm going to give you 30. 30 seconds.
Eddie
No, no.
Amy
Okay, well, here's what I'll say. I don't think you under. You may understand your financials, but I don't think you understand what we're saying.
Eddie
I understand what you're saying.
Amy
No, you don't. There's no way you do.
Eddie
I do, I promise.
Amy
No, because if you did, you would change it.
Eddie
So I have these things that I pay off. Right. That aren't medical, that are personal. Like I support someone else.
Amy
Gotcha. Okay.
Eddie
And. And I need that money to help them.
Amy
Okay.
Eddie
But if you're someone, and if I take my portion of my paycheck to put in my hsa, I won't have enough to do that.
Bobby Bones
But here's what you're. What you're not understanding is you end up spending way more money medically. You would have more money to take care of whomever overall.
Eddie
Right.
Bobby Bones
If you did that.
Eddie
Yeah, because it wouldn't be. I. And I understand, like, that's not taxed. Right, like that.
Bobby Bones
But also you're talking about 250 extra dollars. You're not talking about 10,000.
Eddie
Yeah. Whatever that max is. I think that's what brought up the whole thing. Right. Like, are you maxed out in that? And I thought I was. I need to double check. I don't know I'm maxed out or not. Okay, but.
Bobby Bones
But you think it's like some sort of $80,000. It's like 250 extra dollars. And we're going. If you max out the 250 bucks and it's on and it's not taxed, you're actually making more money for the whole year that you can do all these things. You're talking.
Eddie
Yeah, I know. I know what you're saying. Well, it's pretty cool. Like when I got my, my root canal, it's pretty cool to like pay some of that with My HSA card lunchbox.
Bobby Bones
I look at this card and have a million dollars in there.
Lunchbox
Yeah, I don't.
Eddie
I checked on that.
Lunchbox
I gotta call them and get a card. I have no idea how to get a card.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, but you've been paying on it, huh? Yeah. Are you sure?
Lunchbox
I know I have because on my paycheck it says hsa.
Bobby Bones
Amy said it rolls over.
Amy
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Lunchbox
So, I mean, I just.
Bobby Bones
What if you signed up though, for the non rollover?
Amy
That would be terribly sad.
Eddie
And it goes away after the year.
Bobby Bones
I don't even know if that's a thing.
Lunchbox
Oh, that would be terrible.
Bobby Bones
But it sounds like something you would accidentally click.
Lunchbox
Probably.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, yeah.
Amy
Also, I don't know if this is accurate. I'm on TikTok. Jennifer Lopez is worth 415 million and Ben Affleck 251 million.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, I would think they don't need a prenup.
Amy
Yeah, it's a lot.
Lunchbox
I mean, he's so comfortable. He just gave her a $50 million. I mean, that's.
Eddie
Oh, that's right. That just happened.
Amy
Yeah, 50 or 60.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Okay. Amy, thank you for your story, Eddie.
Eddie
Okay, so this is cool. There is an old lady, she's in hospice. You know, it's. She's the. Towards the end, it's not cool. But while she was at hospice, she was talking to the people that work there, and she was telling them that, like, I would love before I die to talk to one of my students that I taught. And they're like, well, who was that student? They're like, well, it was Michael Jordan, you know, back in North Carolina. I taught him in high school. And they're like, that's cool. So they reached out to Michael Jordan, said, hey, would you want to talk to your old teacher, Miss Etta? She's talking about you. And they got nothing. They got radio silence. Well, last week, out of Nowhere, Michael Jordan FaceTimes said, hey, let me talk to Ms. Etta. So they talked. They FaceTimed each other and they talked a little bit. And it was pretty cool that she got to get Michael Jordan on the line to talk before, you know, she dies.
Bobby Bones
I saw the picture. Yeah, I know. It was a weird one.
Lunchbox
Yeah, that was very weird.
Eddie
No, but I mean, that's cool. That was on her bucket list.
Lunchbox
Her bucket list was to hug him one last time.
Eddie
Well, but that wasn't that.
Bobby Bones
I know. I don't like to be that guy. Can I have permission to be that guy? I don't like to be that guy.
Eddie
Be that guy.
Bobby Bones
I don't want to be that guy.
Amy
Well, let Daniel be that guy.
Eddie
No, Daniel's not that guy.
Bobby Bones
Daniel's not the guy. Lunchbox is that guy.
Eddie
Correct.
Amy
Oh, sorry, sorry. Let lunchbox be that guy.
Bobby Bones
Lunchbox. You can be the guy.
Lunchbox
I mean, this is weird. It's just. She just wants to be associated with Michael Jordan.
Bobby Bones
Oh, that's not my guy.
Eddie
What do you mean?
Bobby Bones
Okay, we're doing two. You're worse than Michael.
Eddie
She's about to die.
Bobby Bones
My thing is, Michael Jordan has a private jet that can get him there in five minutes to give her a hug.
Lunchbox
He could have done anything, like fly on over.
Bobby Bones
She wants a hug, you give her.
Amy
Oh, you're saying Michael Jordan was lame by doing a FaceTime?
Bobby Bones
I didn't say lame because he didn't have to do that. But I'm saying I'm being that guy. I don't like to be that guy.
Lunchbox
He could have literally been there in 10 minutes.
Eddie
I get that. But he did call.
Bobby Bones
I hear you.
Eddie
He didn't have to do that.
Bobby Bones
You're right.
Eddie
And a lot of people don't do that.
Bobby Bones
And that's why I don't like being that guy. And I'm that guy. Right now, where I'm thinking, man, she asked and you. It meant enough for you to call. I don't know, hop on your Jordan jet, go say hi and bye, and
Eddie
then on your way.
Bobby Bones
But I want to be that guy because I don't think it's fair to be that guy.
Eddie
Have you seen his jet?
Lunchbox
I mean, because he flies every week to the NASCAR race.
Eddie
That's business. That's his business.
Lunchbox
But make a pit stop. I mean, it ain't that hard.
Bobby Bones
Well, I don't know that I'd pit stop for an event. I'd probably do it now. You know, I'm saying yeah, because she's.
Lunchbox
No, no, that's what I'm saying.
Eddie
Like, she's on the clock. She.
Lunchbox
They said they didn't hear from him for like a week. I mean, yeah, that's.
Bobby Bones
I mean, but also, he might not have got it. There are layers to get to Michael Jordan.
Eddie
Who knows what they tried to do? Like, Michael Jordan dot com, like, how did they try to get a hold of him?
Lunchbox
But once he got to him, I mean, you're right. But, yes, I think it's a little weird that she wanted. She just wanted to be associated with Michael Jordan one last time. She wanted to meet someone famous.
Bobby Bones
But I think it would be cool to be associated with Michael Jordan one last Time.
Clint Black
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. I don't mind that part of it.
Eddie
Especially when you knew him as a. When he was a kid.
Morgan
Is it also possible? Maybe.
Bobby Bones
Are you gonna be that guy? Remember her?
Eddie
I remember all my teachers.
Lunchbox
I remember all of what I mean, pretty much. You remember all your teachers?
Morgan
No.
Eddie
Well, Ms. Kowalski. Kindergarten.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Eddie
Mrs. Mead. My first grade.
Lunchbox
Ms. Anderson.
Eddie
Ms. English. My third grade.
Amy
Ms. Toliver.
Eddie
Ms. Cisneros. My fourth grade. Fifth.
Amy
Ms. Purvis.
Bobby Bones
I moved to a bunch of schools, only had some teachers for like.
Amy
I can't think of my fifth, sixth.
Eddie
Ah, Miss Samora. On my fifth grade.
Lunchbox
You can't remember fifth grade, Miss Willis, come on.
Bobby Bones
I think you can remember most of your teachers.
Eddie
Yes.
Bobby Bones
Ms.
Lunchbox
Beard. Was science in fifth grade.
Bobby Bones
I probably remembered her anyway. I'm glad that he called her. I don't want to be that guy anymore. So I'm going to take that off. I'm taking off the that guy cap. Okay. Lunchbox.
Lunchbox
We all make mistakes, you know. You win awards, you're all excited. Jackson Smith and Jigba is a wide receiver for the Seattle Seahawks Super Bowl Champions. And he won Offensive Player of the Year this year. And the NFL mails him his award. He opens it up and he got the Defensive Player of the Year award.
Bobby Bones
Oh, they sent the wrong.
Lunchbox
They sent the wrong award.
Eddie
That's interesting.
Lunchbox
So he opens it up, he's like, oh, I got it. I'm gonna put it on my shelf. And it's the wrong award.
Bobby Bones
I found an award in my house the other day when I was going through stuff and it wasn't to me. And so I had an award and it was for Andy Roddick, who is one of my dear friends, but he played tennis back in the day. Was like world number one. For a long time I thought, why do I have this Andy Roddick Award? And then I remembered I went and accepted it for him at an Austin Music Awards. Cause he couldn't be there. He's playing tennis and. And I remember it made me laugh. But I remember getting up and giving a speech. I said, hey, if you win, I'll be there. I'll accept it. And then I got up and gave a speech about how he only wanted to thank me for me being his inspiration for the whole award. I haven't thought about that in forever. Made me laugh out loud. I laughed at something I did. I usually hate everything I do.
Eddie
And it's actually funny that you accepted it and then never gave it to him.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, I kept it. I still have it. Yeah. I got up and I said, I got this note from Andy. I would not be able to be here without Bobby Bones. He is the wind beneath my wings. And I just talked about all me for the whole time.
Amy
That's funny.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, that was pretty funny. Remember when we made Carlos get up and do the same. Same speech over and over again?
Lunchbox
Oh, my gosh, I was hilarious.
Bobby Bones
Back when we were in Austin, the Austin Music Awards, we would win the morning show of the year award. And so Carlos was a producer on the show for a long time. Very close with Carlos, and we said, hey, man, you go up? And I wrote it out. I said, I'm not going to give the speech. I want you to do it. And he's like, all right. So he gets up and the speech was like 12 lines. I said, but when you finish, just start over. He said, okay. I said, when you finish that time, just start over. Do not stop until they come and take you off the stage. I think he got through like three and a half.
Eddie
That's a long time.
Bobby Bones
And then they finally came out, they, like, played the music and they got them off. Man, those were the days.
Eddie
These awards ceremonies were big, though. I remember they were like, in a full, like, auditorium. A lot of people there.
Bobby Bones
Mm. Yeah, that's a good one. We did one too, where we made lunchbox wear a suit.
Lunchbox
Okay, this is. This is rude. We were having a show dinner at a nice restaurant, Ruth Chris Steakhouse.
Bobby Bones
I was like, guys, big show dinner. It's on me. Let's have it. Everybody's got to dress up, wear suits. And we're all. We all show up. T shirts and shorts. And he shows up in a suit.
Lunchbox
They said, to go to this restaurant, you have to wear a suit. And I'm like, man, sounds probably about right. Downtown restaurant, not something I've dined at. And I roll up in a suit and I walk in, I'm like, you sons of guns, didn't you.
Amy
Wasn't it like your dad's?
Bobby Bones
It was his dad's.
Eddie
You didn't have a sandman.
Bobby Bones
He didn't have a suit.
Lunchbox
I was like, oh, this is bad. It was pretty bad.
Bobby Bones
We also did one of those awards things to Carlos, too, where we told him it was a Hawaiian themed. And so we're all dressed up and he shows up in full Hawaiian gear, Hawaiian shirt and shorts. That was a good time.
Eddie
No, dude, the worst was when you got up to accept the award and you said that I was a Chilean miner. Oh, that's got out of the Mine.
Lunchbox
That was great.
Bobby Bones
Do you remember that story where the Chilean miners were trapped in the mines?
Amy
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Eddie came with me to the award
Eddie
ceremony, and you didn't give me a heads up. I was just sitting at the table,
Bobby Bones
and I got up, and they had just been freed. And I said, not. This isn't just about me. You guys saw the Chilean mine story where they've all been freed. My friend down there, I brought him tonight because he was one of those
Eddie
miners, and it was a standing O, and people.
Bobby Bones
I got him. I started clapping for him.
Amy
Did you wave?
Eddie
Yeah, of course.
Bobby Bones
Then he played the part. The rest of the night, people would
Eddie
come up and be like, wow, what was it like in there? I'd be like, oh, very dark. Very dark. It was scary.
Amy
Oh, my gosh.
Bobby Bones
Oh, man.
Eddie
So stupid.
Bobby Bones
What a day, huh? What a day. One other thing, and I'll. We'll break after this. Eddie thinks he saw Lunchbox flirting with Morgan yesterday.
Eddie
It's just bizarre, dude.
Amy
What?
Eddie
It's just bizarre.
Amy
It's weird you would say this.
Bobby Bones
I know.
Lunchbox
Me too. But here we go. This is Eddie. You know what? This is like the third time in the last three months that Eddie has tried to insinuate that I'm cheating on my wife.
Eddie
Can I say it's amazing.
Lunchbox
I'm gonna start putting rumors you're cheating on your w. Can I say.
Eddie
Can I say what I saw?
Amy
I feel like this is.
Eddie
Can I say what I saw? It was very bizarre.
Amy
Okay, say what you saw.
Eddie
Morgan's leaving, and as she's walking to the door, Lunchbox goes, hey. And she turns around. He goes, imagine where you would have been if I wouldn't have said, hey, like, what?
Lunchbox
What?
Eddie
And then, like, she was like, oh, lunch, whatever. He's like, hadn't done that to you in a while.
Clint Black
Huh?
Eddie
And then I was like, they have these little games that they play. Like, what was that?
Morgan
Mind you, not games that we play.
Amy
He plays by his own.
Eddie
Is it weird to you, Morgan, explain that game.
Morgan
It's not a game for me. He just does it to me all the time, like. And I think he actually needs something.
Lunchbox
Thank you, Amy. Thank you.
Eddie
What is it?
Amy
It's funny.
Morgan
It's funny to you because it hasn't happened to you 50 times. He does it to me all the time. I'll be like, fully down the hallway, and he'll be like, hey. And he'll be like, ha.
Amy
Well, I guess I'm just picturing him trying to be like, hey. And then he's like. And Then you stop and you turn around.
Lunchbox
So you waste time.
Amy
Yeah, it's a time.
Lunchbox
It's a time was there. And you're just like, oh, how far would you have been if I wouldn't have stopped you? God, she gets so mad. It's funny.
Bobby Bones
It's kind of flirty.
Eddie
That's what I'm saying, man.
Bobby Bones
It feels kind of flirty.
Lunchbox
It does feel flirty.
Amy
Do you do it to men?
Lunchbox
Yes.
Amy
Okay.
Bobby Bones
Name a man. You've done it. No, you don't name a man.
Amy
I've done it to people for years.
Lunchbox
I've done it at the old building, people that were walking down the hall.
Eddie
Have you done it? You've never done it to me,
Clint Black
Eddie.
Lunchbox
Because you're not around me.
Eddie
No, because I'm not a woman.
Lunchbox
Okay. That's what it is.
Clint Black
Yeah.
Eddie
I thought that was crazy. A little bizarre.
Lunchbox
Okay.
Amy
And you witness it.
Eddie
And he was like, hey, hey. And she was like, what? Then he goes, imagine where you would be if I wouldn't have said, hey. What?
Bobby Bones
You sound like Matthew McGonagh.
Eddie
That's so weird.
Amy
He doesn't. And Lunchbox doesn't sound like Matthew McConaughey.
Commercial/Announcer
But.
Eddie
And that's part of it. His voice was like, hey.
Lunchbox
No, no, it was not like that. Now you're being an idiot.
Bobby Bones
He wasn't, though.
Amy
We'll do it.
Lunchbox
He's acting like I'm being seductive. He goes, hey, I didn't say it like that at all. I go, hey. And she goes, what? And I was like, how far you think he'd been if I had not stopped you? Oh, why do you do that? And she leaves. That's it.
Eddie
How long you been doing that game?
Lunchbox
Oh, years, man. Years. I've probably done it to Abby. I've done it to a lot of times.
Bobby Bones
Hey, Abby. Abby. Has this ever happened to you?
Amy
Literally? Never.
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Never.
Eddie
What is happening?
Lunchbox
Well, you should see Eddie fort with the girl at the front desk. Morning, Mal. Every morning we walk by, every morning we go to the bathroom, he's. Morning, Mal.
Bobby Bones
I say. I say morning. Or too. No.
Lunchbox
But the way he says it, he's like, I want to get in your pants.
Eddie
What are you.
Bobby Bones
Dang. He really had a nerve with Lunchbox. No, no, no.
Lunchbox
On the cruise ship. On the cruise ship, he got up in front of everybody and goes, hey, be careful. Lunch is going to try to invite all you women to his room.
Bobby Bones
It's like, what about a wedding ring?
Eddie
Somebody was saying something about yes. Like, guys make this the week of yes.
Amy
And then I Said that.
Lunchbox
And then Eddie goes, except for when Lunchbox invites you to the room, because he's going to try to get you women to his room.
Eddie
I didn't say all that. You did. That was.
Lunchbox
Did he say that?
Clint Black
Yeah, because he wasn't wearing his wedding ring either.
Lunchbox
But it was just like.
Eddie
Like, where was your wedding ring, dude?
Lunchbox
At my house.
Eddie
I was going on a cruise. Why would I bring it?
Lunchbox
But do you see what I'm saying? Like, it's just like, the last three months, he said it at least three times.
Eddie
It's a joke, dude.
Lunchbox
Okay, so if I started saying you're trying to bang other women, your wife would be okay with it. But if I did that to Eddie, he would be pissed.
Eddie
I never said, good morning, Mal.
Lunchbox
You did.
Eddie
You literally say morning to Mal on the cruise ship.
Lunchbox
No more morning to Mal on the cruise ship. You insinuated I was trying to bang chicks by saying, don't say yes when Lunch tries to invite you to the room. Ladies, he's gonna try to get you in there. I mean, it's like.
Eddie
Joke. Okay, it was a bad joke.
Lunchbox
If I said that in front of a crowd, you would be okay with it.
Eddie
Hey, I apologize.
Lunchbox
No, no, I'm asking you. So if I get up in front of a Nissan stadium and say, hey, Eddie wants to go home with all
Eddie
you women tonight to settle down, I'm asking you.
Bobby Bones
Yes.
Eddie
Yes.
Bobby Bones
You had a nerve, dude.
Eddie
I did.
Lunchbox
Okay, I'm gonna start making sexual jokes about Eddie and his relationship.
Eddie
I wouldn't like it, dude.
Lunchbox
No. It's gonna happen now. From now on, I'm gonna start handing out your number to women and say, hey, Eddie wants you to call. Well, it's no big deal, right? It's just a joke.
Eddie
Oh, boy.
Lunchbox
I'm asking you.
Eddie
You're not asking, dude. You're really not.
Amy
Ray, has Ray. Has he ever done the. The hey to you?
Bobby Bones
Never.
Eddie
Amy, don't.
Lunchbox
I quit flirting with Amy. She's single, man.
Clint Black
Exposed.
Bobby Bones
Some sort of exposed nerve got touched there. Okay, well, no, no, but you can't, like.
Lunchbox
I know.
Eddie
You're right. We can't joke about that.
Lunchbox
Like, it's just. That's the third time in, like, three months. Okay, I see.
Bobby Bones
Another time. That's two. What was the other time?
Lunchbox
Another time we were at something and he said, lunchbox.
Bobby Bones
What, though?
Lunchbox
I can't remember exactly what it was, but I remember it and going, here we go again.
Amy
Was it still on the cruise or.
Lunchbox
It was off the cruise. We were back.
Eddie
Bahamas.
Amy
No, like, we Were back.
Eddie
Back in America.
Lunchbox
So.
Eddie
Okay, all right. No more. I won't joke about that anymore, dude.
Clint Black
But.
Eddie
But. Okay, how could I rephrase the.
Amy
It's just me, like, hey, Morgan and Lunchbox have this cute little game they play.
Bobby Bones
Oh, no one knew.
Morgan
Okay.
Amy
You know, but that's not saying, like, they're flirting.
Morgan
I'm part of the game.
Amy
Okay, maybe you just say Lunchbox has this game he plays with Morgan, with girls, with. Well, so far, he's only played it with Morgan.
Clint Black
Sure. Too.
Bobby Bones
That's true, too.
Eddie
Okay.
Amy
Unless. I mean, there's other people.
Bobby Bones
But I've never been walking down the hall. He's done it to me.
Eddie
He's never done it to me.
Bobby Bones
Ray. He said no.
Amy
Can you imagine if he did that to you?
Bobby Bones
I wouldn't stop.
Eddie
Has he done it to you?
Clint Black
No, but he does do a lot of these, like, joke things where he's
Lunchbox
always like, happy New Year.
Clint Black
And he says it every day, and he said it for six years. So I think he, like, does these things where, like, they're just games and we all play into it.
Amy
That's fun.
Clint Black
We do.
Lunchbox
Hey, it's Saturday on the Best Bits,
Clint Black
and Morgan gets hella pissed. So we. There's like, this thing.
Eddie
Hella pissed.
Amy
Wait, why?
Eddie
But it airs on Saturday because they
Morgan
yell at each other and interrupt a segment. Like, we'll be talking, and one will come in and interrupt us talking to each other, and it's just loud and obnoxious.
Lunchbox
I can't believe you're here on a Saturday. What are you doing here on a Saturday?
Morgan
He basically just has a lot of inside bits that he likes to do, and I am the.
Lunchbox
No, that's what Scuba. That's between me, Scuba, and I. Like, that has nothing to do with Morgan. That is me and Scuba's joke, and Morgan hates it.
Bobby Bones
I guess my point is that he
Clint Black
has a lot of these little things, and we just roll into it.
Amy
You know what is so cute? My son now comes home from school, and when he walks in, he goes, hey, hey, hey, hey. Like, every time. And it. It's starting to get. It gets deep. It's gotten deeper and deeper as the year has gone on. But it's so cute. I just. And I asked his dad, when he comes home from school and walks in your house, does he go, hey, hey, hey, hey. And he's like, well, I'm not normally there when he's home. And I was like, oh, dang. So I feel special. I feel like we have this little thing, like, bugs Morgan. Yeah. It's just cute. Like, he comes in and he. I just love that he does that. It's like his little I'm home. Yeah, I hope he never stops that. I hope he's 30 years old when he comes to visit. He walks in my house and goes,
Clint Black
hey, hey, hey, hey.
Bobby Bones
Morning. Morning, Mal.
Eddie
Morning, Mal.
Bobby Bones
Okay, I'll stop.
Amy
I'm trying to move on.
Eddie
All right?
Morgan
Hey, hey.
Eddie
My kids walk in and I'll be like, who is it? And they're all like, it's me, dad. We do that.
Morgan
And you're.
Amy
You're like, which ones?
Eddie
Kind of cute.
Amy
Have y' all seen that thing where m moms are all turned around and they're lined up and kids say their. Say hey, mom. And then the moment. Whose kid? That's their voice. She has to be the one that turns around. That would be so nerve wracking. If you have a room full of kids and they all say, hey, mom. But whatever. Mom hears their kid's voice, they have to turn around. Like, what if your kid says, hey, mom, and you don't. You don't turn around.
Clint Black
Dang.
Eddie
It's hard because I've been at, like, a trampoline place and somebody says, dad. And I turn around like, oh, gosh. And that wasn't. It was.
Amy
Yeah, but you would know your kid if it's quiet and it's a game and your kid says, hey, dad, you would know.
Clint Black
I think so.
Amy
I would think so too. But then how embarrassing if there's like a glitch and you. Yes. Well, if every other mom is turning around to their kids saying, hey, mom, and then you're the mom that doesn't
Eddie
recognize it, they'd probably get their feelings hurt for sure.
Bobby Bones
I'm gonna take a break.
Amy
That's not on Yalls algorithm.
Bobby Bones
I feel like you guys are just extending now for the sake of extending. So we're gonna.
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Bobby Bones
We have some big news.
Eddie
What's the news?
Bobby Bones
Huge news. We created our own podcast called hey Jonas. We invented a podcast. Well, we didn't invent it, we just contributed to it.
Clint Black
We're the first people to do podcasts.
Bobby Bones
Pretty. Yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts starting, but this one's extra special.
Clint Black
So how did we. How do we actually come up with the name hey Jonas?
Bobby Bones
Guys, I honestly don't remember.
Lunchbox
I think it was on a call
Clint Black
about what we should call it and. Well, we were thinking. I'm originally calling it one of the
Bobby Bones
early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes, I have a very different memory of this.
Clint Black
We were talking about a thing a
Bobby Bones
bit for the podcast where people could call in and say, hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, hey Jonas. And offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that. Guys, listen to hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.
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Eddie
The worst?
Commercial/Announcer
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Me.
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Is there anything to the idea that because you're from Harvard, you only got in because your parents made a huge donation to the group the Yardbirds?
Bobby Bones
Right.
Clint Black
That's the name.
Commercial/Announcer
The Harvard Yard.
Lunchbox
But they're open.
Bobby Bones
Do you have a name suggestion?
Amy
We're open.
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Bobby Bones
Humor me.
Clint Black
I need some jokes to make me
Bobby Bones
seem funny on the Bobby Bones Show. Now, Clint Black. There he is. Clint Black is here.
Clint Black
Hey, that guy's great.
Lunchbox
Oh, wait.
Bobby Bones
Wait till he comes in. You're not gonna like him. Clint, good to see you.
Clint Black
Good to see you.
Bobby Bones
I got your book in my hand.
Clint Black
Awesome.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. It's out today. So before we get into the book, whenever I see you in my head, I just start singing your songs. Like, I.
Clint Black
That happens to me when I. When I see you.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. What are you. What are you saying?
Clint Black
No, I'm. That way, when I. When I see people, one of their songs pops into my head, and so. And then I start hating those people.
Bobby Bones
No, when you walked in, I was like, and I'm leaving here, and I was like, I shouldn't sing it. Do people ever sing your songs around you?
Clint Black
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Just randomly?
Clint Black
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Are they trying to get you to notice them, or is it, like, mine that's kind of a bit subconscious? That comes out, I think.
Clint Black
Yeah, they're. They're trying to say it's you. Hey, I see you.
Amy
Oh, that's how they get your attention.
Bobby Bones
For me, that wasn't it. I was trying to avoid your attention when you walked in.
Clint Black
Yeah. I need a Coming Here a Better man song sequel.
Bobby Bones
Go on.
Clint Black
For when I enter the room, go. Instead of leaving, I'm coming here a better man. I'm leaving. Much worse off. I don't know.
Bobby Bones
Do you. Do you get tired of playing the songs you've played so many times?
Clint Black
No. No, I don't. I'm still trying to get better at playing them.
Bobby Bones
Okay, so we're gonna do the humble thing.
Clint Black
No, it's true.
Bobby Bones
You're a virtuoso.
Clint Black
Every. Every night. Every night's a challenge because the venue's different. The way I can connect with the audience is different. And, you know, don't you feel that when.
Eddie
When.
Clint Black
When you play, you're just. It's like, I'm gonna. I'm getting better. I'm. I'm gonna. Tonight's gonna be my best performance.
Bobby Bones
And, yeah, I feel like I know what's gonna work, but I can't wait to do the stuff that I'm not sure works, because then I can. Like, if it's a joke, I don't know if it works. Like, I'm excited about it, possibly probably not working, but I'm like, oh, this is the moment where I get to feel. Because I know the stuff that's gonna work. Like, I got jokes that I know are gonna get big laughs I've done 10,000 times. But it's like, the stuff where I'm like, this may not go well. That excites me. And I get so excited about it. Pre and afterward. I could be like, oh, that sucked. But I like that feeling, like I'm about to do something new and do
Clint Black
you share the cringe with the band? Look around, you go, hey, that was really bad.
Bobby Bones
I think the cringe is shared with everybody in the room, for sure.
Clint Black
I mean, there. There are shows where the jokes aren't going over its proximity or size of venue or everybody's already drunk and they're just. And you just know they're not going to go over. But I love doing them, and so I'll do them anyway. And when there's no response, it's, you know, during the headlights out there. You just.
Bobby Bones
Just hit a chord.
Clint Black
No, I just look back at the band. That was bad, wasn't it?
Bobby Bones
Did you ever have a stage where you played behind chicken wire?
Clint Black
No, we're okay.
Bobby Bones
Because I like Blues Brothers.
Clint Black
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Where they, like, throw the bottles and stuff. Yeah, yeah, that. That have been a cool story if you had that one, though.
Clint Black
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Didn't have one of those.
Clint Black
I'll go find one.
Bobby Bones
Okay.
Clint Black
I don't know if they still exist.
Bobby Bones
No, no, no. I know you played like.
Clint Black
It's. Now the singers are throwing the beers at the audience.
Bobby Bones
Well, now the audience. Those phones at people.
Clint Black
Yeah. So Riley.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, that's one of them. But they'll throw a phone, hit them or throw it near. And their goal isn't to, like, maim the singer. It's so the singer picks it up and records a video with it. But you can't be. You can't throw stuff. I saw Eric Clapton on stage the other night, and someone threw a. Hit something. It wasn't a phone hit him. He was like, show's over. Walked off, walked off. Just like, I'm not doing this.
Clint Black
You know, it's. It can. It can. It can harm you. You know, people don't realize that. I mean, Riley's ear was cut, you know, but if you get hit in the wrong place, get hit in the eye, you know, it could do some damage.
Bobby Bones
You played, like, restaurants, though, right? Like, lounge is when you're. Because you were doing construction. And then would you go play at night? Pretty much every night.
Clint Black
I couldn't when I was doing construction. I was exhausted at the end of the day. And. And I think, you know, every now and then, maybe on a Saturday and Sunday, you know, playing in a barbecue or something like that. But no. And. And that's why every day on the. On the construction job, I just. Why am I here? Why am I. I should be singing. And I finally quit.
Bobby Bones
How hard was it to quit, though, and do something where there is no stability? Construction stability. Yeah. Music. No.
Clint Black
Stability.
Lunchbox
Yeah.
Clint Black
It was tough, but it wasn't a hard decision. It was just, you know, I'm done with this. Let's go starve to do what I think I need to be doing.
Bobby Bones
Did you save up like a good nut to do that, though?
Clint Black
No, no, no. You mean, did I have a plan?
Bobby Bones
Yeah, yeah. No, no, no. Savings account to get you through for a little bit.
Clint Black
I'm Clint Black.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Clint Black
I didn't have a plan.
Bobby Bones
So your book here, Killing Time.
Clint Black
Yep.
Bobby Bones
Excellent. And I'm always curious about the. What you have to reevaluate, what new memories, like, come back into play that you haven't thought about in a long time whenever you're finding pictures. Because when I did my books, I have to find the pictures. I'm like, oh, man, this really reminds me of something. Or I get a feel. Like in your picture search for this book, like, what came up that you hadn't thought about in a while?
Clint Black
Oh, I can't remember. You know, it was such an exhaustive process of getting all the stories down into some form, finding and looking through all the photos. You know, they. They jog. They jog your memory. You know, I remember being there. I remember, you know, getting my paper route ready and.
Bobby Bones
What do you mean?
Clint Black
You know, just getting the newspapers. You had to do the inserts and all of that stuff. So it'll take me back to that back porch when I was doing that. And. And I remember falling asleep on top of a stack of newspapers, and my dad had to come find me. People are calling. They want their paper.
Bobby Bones
Oh, wow. You fell asleep for that long? It wasn't five minutes. It was. He fell asleep so late. They didn't get their papers.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
This picture of you as a kid on the COVID Yeah. When was that, you think?
Clint Black
I was five. That would have been, you know, 67.
Bobby Bones
What is that picture? What's the memory with that picture? Why'd you put on?
Clint Black
I don't have one. It's just the earliest thing we have of me being a cowboy is that, you know.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. You got big boots on, like a little.
Amy
And a hat.
Clint Black
Stick pony.
Bobby Bones
Oh, that's a stick pony.
Amy
What, you think that was coming out
Bobby Bones
of those things that hobos had on the stick that they get on the train with? I thought Clint was doing, like, the hobo train thing.
Clint Black
Yeah. Oh, it's a. I was going to run away, but I had a. A horse, so I had saddlebags and stuff.
Bobby Bones
Got it. What about this picture in the middle here? It's like, maybe you sing in like a festival or show or something.
Clint Black
Yeah, I think, I think that was the, the Wheeling Jamboree. I'm not sure.
Bobby Bones
In the town of Wheeling.
Clint Black
Yeah, I think that was Wheeling, West
Bobby Bones
Virginia, I gotta tell you. Yeah. Good looking dude. You good?
Clint Black
Goes without saying.
Bobby Bones
I'm saying like I get it, like I didn't get it then as a
Clint Black
child, but you know, I, I, I went through that, you know, heartthrob thing and tried not to, you know, like say that I don't, I don't want, I want to be a serious artist and everything. But was, it was so good for the, the CMT thing happened and immediately my face was recognizable and the what, what that did for my career, it was. I don't know how to talk about being handsome.
Bobby Bones
Well, I brought it up.
Clint Black
I'm going nowhere.
Bobby Bones
CMT thing though. You mean the network starting to emerge and like the, immediately.
Clint Black
I mean the single had no legs at all.
Bobby Bones
Which one?
Clint Black
But the video did A Better man. So a Better man came out with the single. And the better man. A better man is the video is really what sparked things off. Did you people were showing up at bars.
Bobby Bones
That's a weird, weird question, but answered as honest as you can. Did you guys consider yourself like a good looking dude?
Clint Black
I was happy with my looks. I, I didn't think of myself as, you know, I didn't want to be like up there like Tom Jones, you know, and hey, you know, charming the ladies with my looks. I didn't want to do that. So I didn't think about it a lot. And I, and I, and I was, I was ego suppressive, you know, don't think too much of yourself.
Bobby Bones
Where'd that come from?
Clint Black
It came from friends when I was just starting to play and sing, telling me I was going to be a big star and then in the same breath saying, don't let it ruin you. So this was said to me many times. And I, so I came into the business worried about ruin, worried about ego getting out of control and placing myself above people. And I sort of realized looking back, I developed a mechanism of discounting compliments, you know, by 30 or 40% so that, you know, if you think I'm that great, I'm gonna think less, you know.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Mine is if you think I'm good, you just wait. You're gonna really be surprised that I'm not.
Clint Black
I like the self deprecating stuff. Yeah. You know, man, if you saw me play, you wouldn't believe how much I practice.
Bobby Bones
You talk about Reba A little bit in the book and. And hearing Reba's music. When did you get to know Reba?
Clint Black
Well, I got to know her backstage at the Opry and at award shows. Backstage, being around her like that. I opened for her at some shows, but we're all going 100 different directions, so it takes time to. To develop friendships and get to know other artists, because we're never around at the same time. So it's like those. Those Opry's and award shows are like the. The homecoming where you get to see everybody who did you feel like you
Bobby Bones
became close friends with when you moved to town, that was an artist you had no relationship with at all until you got here.
Clint Black
Steve Warner. Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Well, you guys both are, like, just fantastic musicians, too.
Clint Black
Is that why I just liked Steve? Steve was fun and funny, you know, Steve will make you laugh. I mean, I thought I was gonna bust a spleen one time, and he knew it. And I'm saying, you know, I'm dying laughing, and I can't stop. And I'm really begging him to stop what he's doing. And he's like, oh, this is working. And then he comes in for the killer, and he could have killed me with it. So I think you hit it off that way first. And then you say, you know, we need to write a song together, which is like, you know, the. The way, you know, you ask another singer for a date, you know, don't want this to be awkward. And I take. Can I take you out for a burger?
Bobby Bones
You know, and so did you guys write pretty well together?
Clint Black
Yeah, yeah, we wrote. We wrote a lot of songs together over the years, and a couple of them, you know, like, Nothing but the Tail Lights, you know, big hit, Been There, and then a bunch of deep cuts that are favorites of mine. One of. One of the favorite songs. I'm gonna do it in an event I can't talk about yet, but it's America still in love with you. Our love letter to this country.
Bobby Bones
So.
Clint Black
Songs I'm really, really proud of, and. And some of them in my most favorite compositions. And along with that, you know, when you're. When you're not doing that, he's showing you a guitar lick, and. And, you know, and then I steal them. I go away, and I change them a little. And in their mind.
Bobby Bones
And then you claim you wrote it. Yeah. Why? Why? Killing Time is the name of it. I mean, you got a bunch of songs that kind of better man would have worked as a title. Killing Time.
Clint Black
Yeah. One of the things I've always known about myself is the premium that I put on time. And. And I was a very fatalistic. Growing up, I didn't think I would live a long life. And so time was always coming to a close for me. 16, that's it. I mean, because we were losing friends to car and motorcycle accidents and drug overdose or cancer. And. And so I, I just knew. And the Vietnam war was looming and I just thought, you know, something will get me. You know, I can't imagine something will get me. Something will get me, you know, like it got my friend or. Yeah. And. And then 18 came and I was like, okay, 21 is probably it, you know, and then 21 came and 25 came and I'm like, okay, better start flossing. You know, might live a while. And I. And I sort of walked away from that idea. And it wasn't something that kept me awake at night, but. But that's, that's. That was my, you know, latter teen years. So Time, you know, killing time Buying time Spend my time no time to kill till the end of time There's a lot of not thinking of. Off the top of my head. I've written a lot of songs on that subject. Life gets away and that just comes from just knowing, you know, you just. You don't know how long you have. When I started thinking about what would I name the book, it was. There wasn't. No, this was the first thought. Killing Time is my biggest hit and. And it's the irony of that. I have not been killing Time. I've done a lot. It's not. It's not all in the book because that would be boring. But it's just the obvious choice.
Bobby Bones
To me that was named the album too.
Clint Black
Right.
Bobby Bones
Killing Time.
Clint Black
Yeah. And it was the. And the album was finished and Hayden and I wrote that song at the last minute and. And did a quick demo, sent it in. Everybody said, oh, yeah, that's. That has to go on the album. But we cut the track for that and. And Hayden actually recorded that six string Jerry Jones bass part that you hear in the intro at Master Phonics while we were mastering the album. That's how close we were to missing the window of getting that song on the album.
Bobby Bones
Did you have a name what the album was going to be until.
Clint Black
No, no, not until Mary Hamilton was head of the art department at RCA and we did a photo shoot with Senor McGuire, Jim McGuire down in Galveston. And. And then I was sitting with her at RCA looking through the photos, picking ones that we wanted to, you know, put in the, and for artwork, and she came across that cover photo, and she said, look at you. You're just killing time. I was like, yeah, yeah, that's, yeah, yeah, that's what I'm doing.
Bobby Bones
And then. Did you write the song after that?
Clint Black
No, no. This, okay. She, she had this, the list of songs, and she just, she just put that title with photo.
Bobby Bones
1989 is when that came out. Are you a good guy remembering what happened in certain years? Because I am not.
Clint Black
No.
Bobby Bones
Okay.
Clint Black
No. The, the. My least favorite word throughout this process was timeline. Your timeline seems off. You know, and fortunately, I had Craig Shelburne helping me, and Craig would do research, I would write a story, and Craig would say, yeah, that didn't happen in 1994. He saved me from being wrong.
Bobby Bones
Whenever you recorded Killing Time, that's the last song on the album. Was that the first single on the album?
Clint Black
No. Better Man. Better man than Killing Time and that. I think Nobody's Home came after that.
Bobby Bones
Kind of a generational run there.
Clint Black
Yeah, yeah. Five number ones. And then it was, it was history making. So that made me a news item, you know, because that hadn't been done with a debut album in any genre any, any time.
Bobby Bones
Man, did that feel crazy. Are we going so hard? You didn't even really understand what was happening.
Clint Black
It felt crazy. You know, you're everywhere you go, you're an event. You know, you're in a truck stop and people know you went to a mall and somebody screamed and you just, you feel it everywhere you go. And a song member Little River Band song Cool change would get to me at times on the bus when I needed that cool change. I needed to get away from that guy. And just for a minute, could you
Bobby Bones
not wear a cowboy hat and it'd be a little easier?
Clint Black
Yeah, no, I, I, if I went to the mall, I didn't wear, I didn't wear my cowboy hat.
Amy
That'd be weird. You'd be looking for attention.
Bobby Bones
He's wearing his cowboy, walking around the guitar singing, yeah, yeah, leave me alone, everybody. Hell, I'm leaving here.
Clint Black
Can you give me some space?
Bobby Bones
Yes, please.
Clint Black
God.
Bobby Bones
Did you ever have one of those instances where you fell off stage, like, in, in your, your heyday, and then you just have to, like, play hurt for a while?
Clint Black
Not in my, not in my heyday, but a few years ago, I did what you heard. I, I ruptured a disc in my lumbar and cracked the femoral head. My hip.
Amy
Oh, my.
Clint Black
And I didn't know it. I knew I. I knew I hurt my back and. And I was in surgery about four days later getting that fixed.
Bobby Bones
How did you fall off the stage?
Clint Black
I didn't actually fall. I turned. Well, I turned it into a jump because it was either that or fall. So the one night my. My crew forgot to put the white tape along the edge of the stage, oh, man, was I. I'm going out there. I'm singing. Put yourself in my shoes. So I'm holding the mic like this and, well, like this. And for those of you listening at home, this is much better. Look. And I'm walking out singing to the crowd, and I realized my momentum is going to carry me over the edge and. And so I just made it a jump. I'm jumping. I can't see the ground because the lights in my eyes, it's a concrete floor in a hockey arena in Canada. And when I land, my right leg is straight and I land on the heel of. In my boots. And the. The jolt was electric. It went through my body. I didn't fall down. I. I missed a few lyrics. Hayden was looking back and he said. He said he looked back at the dick on the drums, and when he turned around, there was a weird clinko. It's weird. He's not singing. So I walked around and security person helped me find my way through the curtains and, and back to the stage. I started singing, you know, right away.
Bobby Bones
You finished the show?
Clint Black
Finished the show. I had. I had one day off and, yeah, iced my back. I got some muscle relaxers and spent the day in bed. And then I had two more shows in Canada, finishing in Vancouver. And by that time, my. My right leg was numb all the way down to my foot. So I'm. I'm. I'm kind of. Yeah, I'm fine. You know, nobody can tell. But there were a few times when I almost fell down just because I couldn't feel my leg. It was, you know, I. The buses cross the border. I go to the Seattle airport. I get on a plane. By the time I make it to my seat, I tell the attendant, flight attendant, I'm going to need a wheelchair when we get to la.
Bobby Bones
And you're not joking.
Clint Black
No.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Clint Black
And I hated that. And so then I had somebody call the hotel and ask him to put a wheelchair, have a wheelchair for me to get me to my room. And. And so, first of all, I'm hating being wheeled through the airport in a wheelchair, you know, but I can't. I can't walk. And so I. I get to the hotel, I get up to my room, I get in bed, and I look over at that wheelchair sitting there. You. I'm not gonna. You're not a part of my future. And. And I went and had an injection. Didn't help. And I was in surgery the next morning and it was a little bit of a slog, but I was back on tour about 10 days later. Yeah, that's great.
Bobby Bones
You write about that in the book.
Clint Black
Yeah, yeah. There's a list of about a third of the surgeries I've gone through as a result of my first injury. There's about 29 surgeries and procedures. I'm the Six Thousand Dollar man now.
Bobby Bones
Did you ever have throat issues, like surgery on your throat, like any sort of polypy thing or anything?
Clint Black
No, no, nothing like that.
Bobby Bones
Do you think a little bit of that's because you had to sing so much when you first started out that you develop like a really strong, like hours at a time performing?
Clint Black
We've started the interview, right?
Bobby Bones
No, no, we're not recording it.
Clint Black
Okay. Yeah, yeah. So I'll tell you the truth off air.
Bobby Bones
I don't know if you're kidding right now.
Clint Black
I'm kidding.
Lunchbox
Okay.
Amy
I don't think. I can't tell.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, I know.
Amy
I'm like, you're still talking.
Bobby Bones
So dry. I don't know what he's doing.
Clint Black
Not able to express things with my face.
Bobby Bones
Go ahead.
Clint Black
Yeah, I. I sang so much, played harmonica so much that actually the. The first surgery had to go through the front of my throat and move my vocal cords and all of the veins and arteries out of the way to get to my spine. And I was supposed to take 45 minutes. It took an hour and a half. And the surgeon said that half of that time was figuring out where to put the veins and arteries. You know, they were. They're just. They were so big because you'd worked them so hard. Yeah. Wow. So he had to take all that time to move all that stuff out of the way.
Bobby Bones
Did you have anything in the book that you hadn't thought about in a long time and then you just reappreciated it so much because you kind of relived it.
Clint Black
Yeah, all of that. All of the surgeries and recoveries. I got pretty good at recovering quickly and getting back to work and getting off pain pills after like two days, three days max, and getting back to normal. I got pretty good at that. So, you know, my psyche was always about getting going again and going back through that, talking to My surgeon and getting all the information and getting all that right and looking at the totality of it got me. It's getting me now. You know, if this, If. If these things had happened to me, you know, 30 years earlier, they wouldn't had nearly as good a fix for them back then, and I would have probably suffered more. So I look at that and I'm just. I'm so grateful that I had a great surgeon who had confidence in. And he was pushing the envelope, doing experimental stuff, developing his own plates, you know, for stability plates, and. And, you know, he was on the front end edge of stem cell injections, which I had working with Korea, who was ahead of us, and. And so I was in really good hands.
Bobby Bones
What's your guys's rule about playing in the rain?
Clint Black
As long as it's not dangerous if the crowd is sticking around? There have been some situations where we were made to stop and it was. There was just too much water getting in. People could get hurt or killed. But when you're playing for a crowd in the rain and they're staying, you know, you. You just. You just given, you know, where's that 110%? Where's. Where's 120? You know, what can I do that's better than what I do?
Bobby Bones
Because you're grateful for them for standing in the rain. So you're gonna play.
Clint Black
I was just gonna try to give them everything I've got as opposed to my normal 80%, which.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, you just kind of show up and go through the motions. Was there ever a moment with Killing Time? Better man, those two songs early on that if, like, one little thing wouldn't have happened, one random thing wouldn't have happened. Maybe those songs don't become really successful.
Clint Black
Yeah, I was making the. Doing the promo tour, playing songs for program directors who decide what. What's going on the air.
Bobby Bones
And what year was this?
Clint Black
You think this was 89? This would be. Well, no, it would have been late 88 or January of 89. And. And so we're at KZLA. Bob Guerra sitting in. In his office, hand him the tape of the single. He hits play, listens to chorus and a verse and hit stop and says. He goes, you know, if you get that into the top 20, I can add it to our playlist. I'm thinking, oh, that sounds terrible. How do I get into the top 20 without you already playing it? And the song was straight from the Factory, which is the first cut on the album, Western Swing. And I had this little feeling that Western Swing isn't going to go over in every market. A term I would later use, cities is what I called them. But, you know, cities, big cities, you know, they may not play a western swing song. I had a cassette in my pocket of the other songs, and the one I wanted to be the single I had. It was the first. First song on the cassette. I wasn't sure if it was okay. And Carson Schreiber was the promotion guy for West Coast. And I kind of looked at him, I looked at Bob, and I said, can. Can I play another song? And Bob said, sure. So he put it in Better Man. He listens to the verse. In the chorus, he hit Stop. My heart stopped. And he said, I'll add that out of the box.
Bobby Bones
So he added it immediately.
Clint Black
No, no, not. Not yet. It wasn't the single, and this was just introducing me. But he said, I'll add that out of the box. And we walked out into the parking lot, and I grabbed Carson. I said, we have to change the single. And he agreed. He called Joe Galani, told him the story, and they changed the single.
Bobby Bones
Had you not gone to your pocket, your career may have had a completely different trajectory.
Clint Black
Yeah, it may have been a slower startup if. If it did get legs, but A Better man went number one. And that was noteworthy because debut singles going number one, don't. Don't happen all the time.
Bobby Bones
Then it was Killing Time.
Clint Black
Killing time. And those two songs became the number one in two singles of the year. And Billboard, which was another noteworthy news item, and the last time it had happened was 35ish years earlier with Hank Williams senior. 35 years earlier with two songs I sang in the Bars, your Cheating Heart and Collage and. And now my story has a connection to Hank Senior.
Bobby Bones
You know, was there a point where you started to go to award shows and you felt like you belonged? Like, when did that start happening?
Clint Black
No, it took a couple of years. You know, I was. It was a lot of deep breathing. And you can see if you see me getting my first CMA Award, my first award, I get up, you know, in front of the microphone holding my award, and I take a big breath. It just, you know.
Bobby Bones
Do you know what it was for
Clint Black
the Horizon Award, which is Best New Artist?
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Dang, that's awesome.
Clint Black
It was. It was, you know, and I'm looking out at, you know, Reba and Haggard and Skaggs and Straight and, you know, everybody. Everybody else, they're all right there in front of me. It's just, okay, be normal thing. I kept Saying be normal. Yeah, you just. You look good. You're standing well, you know, how do I. It's another funny thing, you know, people don't think about. They see new artists performing and sometimes, you know, we look goofy. I still look goofy. But we're all having that conversation. I'm sure you've had it.
Bobby Bones
Not completely.
Clint Black
Just.
Bobby Bones
Imposter.
Clint Black
Don't stand that way anymore. You've been standing that way too long. Billy Joel's singing, you know, Honesty, such a something word. I wonder, maybe I have tuna sandwich tonight. Don't go changing. I had that last night. Try and please. You know, I'm thinking, you know, I'm leaving here. Better man. Okay. Stand on the left leg. I always cut. I always cut people slack when I start to get judgy because I know, you know, that we're all just trying to be normal. But it's not normal to be up there doing that, you know.
Bobby Bones
The book is out today, so. Clint Black Killing Time.
Eddie
What do you want?
Bobby Bones
What do you want people to know from the book?
Clint Black
Like, overall, I didn't overdo it with the commas.
Bobby Bones
Okay.
Clint Black
I really was judicious with that. You know, you can read sentences right through without anything. You know, speed bumps to slow you down. I get tired of those in books.
Bobby Bones
What kind of music did your brothers play around you when you were young?
Clint Black
Well, my dad, big time country, like Frank Sinatra, but. And Tony Bennett. Outside of that, it was all. All country. And then when I was about 8, my brother started bringing home the Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin, Wishbone, Ash, you know, just anything that was happening on the Texas radio. Yeah. And, and so, you know, this. As the years went by, it was. It was more and more of that rock and roll. By the time I was 13, I was starting to look for my own records, you know, getting the redheaded stranger, some Loggins of Messina, Jim Croce, Dan Fogelberg. And so I had all that country stuff, you know, as my base. And then my, my brothers, you know, the, the rock and roll. And then, and then I started going for the singer songwriters, you know.
Bobby Bones
I hope everybody goes and buys the book. It is out today. Clint Black Killing Time. I hope you sell a million.
Clint Black
Thank you, man.
Bobby Bones
That'd be crazy if he sold a million, though.
Clint Black
What are you saying?
Bobby Bones
That'd be crazy if you sell a million? Because that's a lot. That's a big deal.
Clint Black
I expect it can't stream.
Bobby Bones
I guess you can stream a book. They should buy the audiobook. Did you do your audiobook?
Clint Black
I Did my audiobook. You go through this process, and it's like, okay, I finished the book. And then the editor gives you notes. Oh, I gotta go through the whole book again. And then you go, okay, that's done. And then the editor gives you more notes and you do it again. And then you do that again. And then the. The legal gives you notes. And then now you have to go through it with legal. And then now it's. Okay, read this one more time. And that's it. We have to read it one more time. And that's when it starts impacting me emotionally. When my dad died, I broke down reading something I wrote and reread already five times. And like that last time, when I'm going through it meticulously, it got. I broke down and sobbed and. And then I'm done. And then, okay, we need to schedule the audiobook recording. And now I'm reading it, and you can hear my voice shaking at times trying to get through that. It took me five days to read it on tape.
Bobby Bones
So get. Killing time. You can order it or you can listen to it. You can download it and listen to the audiobook, because that counts too.
Clint Black
That's right. And I'll be saying things in it.
Bobby Bones
Do we hear the commas?
Clint Black
You know, I. I had to really become an actor in order to, you know, do the pauses, observe the periods, deliver on the exclamation marks.
Bobby Bones
I'll be listening for that, you know. Yeah, yeah, I'll text you and be like, kind of.
Clint Black
There's a little music in there at the top.
Bobby Bones
There is.
Clint Black
Put some. Me and my guitar in harmonica.
Bobby Bones
Oh, you have in the room with you?
Clint Black
No, I did that later.
Bobby Bones
What do you mean?
Clint Black
After we finished recording the book, then I. Then I came up with some music.
Bobby Bones
Oh, and added it to it. Yeah, yeah, guys, go get it. It's out today. Clem Black, killing Time. There he is. The lovely, lovely Clint Black. There he is. I thought lovely twice. Lovely twice.
Clint Black
If I had a nickel for every time someone called me lovely, I'd have a nickel.
Bobby Bones
I said it twice, though. 10 cents. All right, there he is. Clint Black, everybody. We're gonna wrap this up. All right, thank you, everybody. We will see you tomorrow. Bye. This is an I heart podcast. Guaranteed human.
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A quintessential Bobby Bones Show episode: personal, offbeat, earnest, and hilarious. Clint Black’s appearance injects wisdom and warmth—his stories about luck, resilience, and Nashville friendships give weight to a show just as comfortable joking about dinner pranks or debating celebrity net worth. If you missed the episode, you’ll walk away with new appreciation for country history, some life/finance tips, and plenty of smiles.