TUES PT2: Did Our Stock Tank?! + Bobby With Dr. Josie On Pet Advice, Aliens And The Apocalypse (Podcast)

Summary

Summary of "TUES PT2: Did Our Stock Tank?! + Bobby With Dr. Josie On Pet Advice, Aliens And The Apocalypse" - The Bobby Bones Show

Release Date: March 11, 2025

Overview: In this comprehensive episode of "The Bobby Bones Show," host Bobby Bones navigates through a rollercoaster of topics ranging from the recent downturn in the stock market to heartfelt discussions with Dr. Josie, a dedicated veterinarian. The episode blends financial insights, personal anecdotes, pet care advice, and even dives into speculative theories about dolphins potentially being extraterrestrial beings. Throughout the conversation, Bobby maintains an engaging and candid tone, making complex subjects accessible and relatable to his audience.

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1. Stock Market Concerns and Personal Investments

Timestamp: [04:44 - 19:40]

Bobby Bones opens the episode by expressing his anxiety over the recent decline in the stock market. He shares his personal experiences with investing, particularly in cryptocurrency and small stocks through an investment app. Despite not being a seasoned market expert, Bobby recounts his attempts to navigate volatile markets, highlighting the unpredictability and emotional toll of investing.

• Notable Quote:

  "The Dow Jones closed 890 points lower. Not even sure what the NASDAQ is."
  — Bobby Bones [04:44]

Bobby discusses a stressful day on Wall Street influenced by presidential comments on economic outlooks and tariffs. He candidly admits his limited understanding of market complexities but remains optimistic about his investment strategies, including his ventures into bitcoin.

• Notable Quote:

  "I do not have a deal with Robin Hood. It's just the one that I found to be easiest."
  — Bobby Bones [06:24]

2. Technical Challenges with Podcasting

Timestamp: [19:40 - 25:35]

Bobby shifts focus to the behind-the-scenes aspects of podcasting, detailing the challenges his show faces with digital feeds and corporate decisions. He expresses frustration over unrelated content being automatically inserted into the podcast feed, citing it as a revenue and listener engagement issue. This segment underscores the complexities of maintaining a pristine and listener-friendly podcast in a corporate environment.

• Notable Quote:

  "I would not have put it in the feed initially. But now we can't take it out because everybody loses money."
  — Bobby Bones [25:35]

3. Conversation with Dr. Josie: Pet Advice and Personal Stories

Timestamp: [35:34 - 93:19]

a. Personal Pet Stories and Challenges

Timestamp: [35:34 - 51:44]

Bobby introduces Dr. Josie, a compassionate veterinarian, and delves into their personal experiences with their pets. Bobby shares his emotional journey with his bulldog, Stanley, highlighting the health issues stemming from breeding practices. Dr. Josie provides professional insights into managing chronic conditions like Inflammatory Bowel Disease (IBD) in dogs, emphasizing the importance of regular medical care and pet insurance.

• Notable Quote:

  "He has double digit, at least, at least 10 surgeries. So that's the number one reason is that they are sick when they're not sick."
  — Bobby Bones [43:08]

b. Pet Care Advice

Timestamp: [51:44 - 83:58]

The conversation transitions into practical pet care advice. Dr. Josie underscores common mistakes pet owners make, such as overfeeding and neglecting crate training, which can lead to behavioral and health issues. She advocates for pet insurance, especially when acquired early in a pet's life to avoid pre-existing condition exclusions. Additionally, they discuss the dangers of certain human foods for pets, including chocolate, grapes, xylitol, and marijuana edibles, sharing real-life scenarios of animals affected by these substances.

• Notable Quote:

  "I'm pretty sure people should crate train their dogs."
  — Dr. Josie [78:56]

c. Speculative Discussion: Dolphins as Extraterrestrials

Timestamp: [83:58 - 89:00]

In a lighter yet intriguing segment, Bobby introduces a speculative theory that dolphins might be extraterrestrial beings due to their advanced intelligence, complex communication systems, and mysterious behaviors. He discusses how dolphins surpass many technological advancements humans have achieved, particularly in echolocation. While Dr. Josie approaches the topic with skepticism, the discussion highlights the fascinating capabilities of marine life and the mysteries that still surround them.

• Notable Quote:

  "Dolphins have highly advanced brains with their brain to body ratio meaning size second to only humans."
  — Bobby Bones [54:27]

d. Emotional and Professional Challenges in Veterinary Work

Timestamp: [89:00 - 93:19]

Bobby and Dr. Josie explore the emotional toll of veterinary work. They discuss the delicate balance between caring deeply for animals and maintaining professional composure during stressful situations, such as emergencies or euthanasia procedures. Dr. Josie emphasizes the importance of mental health and personal coping mechanisms, like playing pickleball, to manage the emotional demands of the job.

• Notable Quote:

  "I think two things can be true. I care so much, but I'm also very calm under pressure."
  — Dr. Josie [76:38]

4. Closing Remarks and Final Thoughts

Timestamp: [93:19 - End]

As the episode winds down, Bobby reflects on the conversations with Dr. Josie, reiterating the importance of pet care and the complexities of maintaining a podcast in today's digital landscape. He encourages listeners to engage with Dr. Josie's own podcast for more in-depth veterinary advice and shares personal stories that underscore the bond between humans and their pets.

• Notable Quote:

  "If someone says, 'Hey, I'm thinking about getting a Great Dane, but I got a one bedroom apartment, third floor,' you should ask your veterinarian."
  — Dr. Josie [79:36]

Conclusion: This episode of "The Bobby Bones Show" masterfully balances timely financial discussions with heartfelt, practical advice on pet care. Through authentic storytelling and expert insights from Dr. Josie, Bobby offers listeners a multifaceted experience that is both informative and emotionally resonant. The episode not only addresses immediate concerns about the economy but also deepens the listener’s understanding of responsible pet ownership and the emotional intricacies of life as a veterinarian.

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Transcript

[Bobby Bones]

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[Alec Baldwin]

Hey, it's Alec Baldwin. This season on my podcast, here's the thing, I speak with California Governor Gavin Newsom. Is there any chance of increased tax breaks for the movie business?

[Gavin Newsom]

We're gonna double it.

[Alec Baldwin]

You are?

[Gavin Newsom]

I proposed that a few months ago. And that was right before the fires. What do the fires only reinforce the imperative? And also, working with all our friends, you know, the who's who of Hollywood saying it's time to double down on bringing production back to California, particularly this time of recovery and renewal, I said to my legislative friends, I said, there's no budget. I'll veto the budget if we don't get it done. It's going to get done.

[Alec Baldwin]

Listen to here's the thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Eric Andre]

Hey, what's up, y'all? This is Eric Andre. I made a podcast called Bombing about absolutely tanking on stage. I tell gnarly stories and I talk to friends about their worst moments of bombing in all sorts of ways. Bombing on stage, bombing in public, bombing in life. Like the time I stole a girl's phone during a sentence, she jumped on stage and threw a big haymaker p to my nose. Listen to Bombing with Eric andre on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

This is John Cameron Mitchell and my new fiction podcast series, Cancellation island stars Holly Hunter as Karen, a wellness influencer who launches a rehab for the recently canceled. In the future, we will all be canceled for 15 minutes. But don't worry, we'll take you from broke to woke or your money back. Cancellation Island's revolutionary rehab therapies, like bad touch football, anti racism, spin class, and mandatory ayahuasca ceremonies are designed to force the council to confront their worst impulses. But everything starts to fall apart when people start disappearing.

[Dr. Josie]

Karen, where have you brought us?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Cancellation island, where a Second Chance might just be your last. Listen to Cancellation island on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Bobby Bones]

This is the Barbie Bon shape. I don't want to use my pass. We get one dream pass a year. I don't want to use my pass. So I'm not gonna use my pass. I'm not gonna submit it. I'm not gonna clock it in like a. You guys ever have to use one of those when you go to work, you gotta take and put it into the old time clock. The punch card? Yeah. Did you ever have that?

[Lunchbox]

Maybe. When I was a hostess in 1996.

[Amy]

I had it at Dunkin Donuts. You would click do it. And it was awesome.

[Bobby Bones]

I had it at Hobby Lobby because they really wanted to know what time you got there. And so it was a stamp. Stamp right on it. So I'm not going to take my dream card and put the stamp in it. And you could be like, what's a dream card? Well, on this show, you get to talk about a dream once a year. Because I hate hearing about dreams because they don't mean anything. But I'm going to tell you guys, I had a dream that I took a note of that there's a possibility I will be using my dream card in the next two weeks to three months. And if I happen to use my dream card, you may all pee just a little.

[Lunchbox]

Because of the dream or that you used your card?

[Bobby Bones]

No, because you will be so physically moved that you will not want to stand up because there will be a little dribble. If possible, I might send you guys an email the night before saying wear.

[Lunchbox]

Denim or wear a pull up or something.

[Bobby Bones]

No, we just wear denim because they have pull up that seems like it's a little too puffy. Like, we tell if you walked in a diaper, we'd know. But I'm gonna say wear denim because it could be one of those. I would say in the next two weeks to three months, possibly. So that's the thing. But I'm getting off of it completely. Secondly, I have a list here of stuff. Lunchbox. You have your phone up or do we need to wait 20 minutes?

[Amy]

No, I got my phone right here, ma'am. Who do you need me to call?

[Bobby Bones]

I don't really need you to call anybody. It's too early in the morning. But I'm gonna read this first and then I'm gonna have you pull up your app for the stocks you've invested in.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Really bad day yesterday for the market. Really bad day. I'm not even a market guy. I know nothing about the market, except I've been putting some money in, like, crypto, and I have this app where I put, like, 20 bucks, 30 bucks on, like, little stocks that I like. It was another stressful day on Wall street yesterday as stocks continue to take a beating. The Dow Jones closed 890 points lower. Not even sure what the NASDAQ is. I'm going to be honest. I feel like that's, like, the junior varsity of the Dow Jones. Anybody else have any thoughts on NASDAQ and how it compares?

[Lunchbox]

No thoughts at all.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, good.

[Dr. Josie]

Are they, like, leagues?

[Amy]

You know, that's what I was wondering.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, you have the majors and the minors, and so I thought it was, like, junior varsity as well. Right. But I think, you know, I'm gonna go to Mike on this. I'm gonna do one of those things where I go, mike, will you look this up for me? It looks like it's just two different ones. Then why do we care less about the Nasdaq, though? Is it a different group? You can only get in if, like, you don't pass all the requirements. It's like the. Okay, it doesn't matter. Mike's gonna look it up for us. Even more so contributing to yesterday's mood on. On Wall street was a comment from the president, who declined the rule out the possibility of an economic downturn, even a recession resulting from tariffs. Now, that being said, I go over, I look at my. My app, which I do not have a deal with Robin Hood. It's just the one that I found to be easiest. Lunchbox, you have yours up?

[Amy]

Got it.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. What do you see bitcoin as?

[Amy]

Oh, man. I've lost a total of $19.23 investing in Bitcoin.

[Bobby Bones]

How much did you put in to begin with?

[Amy]

I put $320.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. So not terrible. As opposed to what it was last night. Last night, a single bitcoin, which I do not own. This is just. It's the price of one full bitcoin, and you can buy parts. A single bitcoin got down to, like, 75,000. Oh, it's back up to 81. But when I told lunchbox to buy, it was at, like, 88 or something. And then I recommended he sell it. Now I'm out of it for what he does, but it got down to 70. So I spent, like, 300 bucks last night on more bitcoin when it got way low. Oh, really?

[Amy]

Why don't you call me Man, I.

[Bobby Bones]

Don'T really call you. Yeah, I know.

[Amy]

That's what I'm saying. But you've been my advisor on bitcoin, so that's the one time you should have called me.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't want to be an advisor. I just wanted to tell you when it was low, I don't know the last time I've ever called you.

[Amy]

Yeah, I don't either.

[Bobby Bones]

It has to be more than five years.

[Amy]

That's probably. I'm looking at my phone. It says 2004.

[Lunchbox]

Are you really?

[Bobby Bones]

You have a log of that?

[Amy]

I have no idea, guys. It's been a long time.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, that's funny though, because I actually believe.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah, because your phone is that old, so we thought maybe you had log.

[Bobby Bones]

Of it now, to be fair. Hey, Morgan, what do you think the last time is I called you?

[Lunchbox]

I mean, it's been years since you've called.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I don't call anybody. Every once in a while, I will call Eddie, but I don't even know the last time I call called Eddie. If you call me, it's a big deal. We need to talk about something. It's an emergency. Yeah, just a call. Not even like three calls in a row or knock at the door. I will call Amy semi frequently just because Amy and I have stuff to talk about, but I don't even the threat of Amy is. And I do say threat.

[Lunchbox]

Oh, threat.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, the threat.

[Lunchbox]

You're calling it a threat.

[Bobby Bones]

I do. I do.

[Lunchbox]

I'll go ahead and just get ahead of it myself. Is that I talk too much. Talk, talk, talk, talk, talk.

[Bobby Bones]

Let him say it.

[Lunchbox]

No, no. I'm eight miling in myself here.

[Bobby Bones]

Is that a girl? Yes. Good reference. Let's go. Yeah, I talk, talk, talk, talk.

[Lunchbox]

Y'all taught me that. And yes, And I'll work on it. And I know I've. I've made major improvements over the years, especially with Bobby. Like, if I sense it's, like, going on too long, I'm like, okay, cool. Thanks. Talk to you later.

[Dr. Josie]

Click.

[Bobby Bones]

And I'm like, I. I don't even say why I called Amy. Like, she'll. She'll go the opposite side completely. With Amy, it' Because if we're talking about something, whatever is pertinent. Amy and I have been friends for so long, I mean, 20 years, that she knows I know how our communication styles are. But if it's like, hey, I want to talk about a banana that I found. We'll talk about the banana. It's no issue. She doesn't Talk too long about the banana. But as soon as she goes, yeah, bananas are yellow. You know what else is yellow? Cowardice. You know who else is cowardice? Oh, I'll tell you about the last hundred cowards I've met and how I feel in therapy. I've been too coward. And I'm like, oh, my God, I'm gone. I'm gone, I'm gone. I can't get out. But she has. Well, I think you've gotten better. But we don't talk on the. I don't really talk on the phone. So we really haven't had to use your new communication skills on the phone. I do think you are much better about it here.

[Lunchbox]

Really? Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. You don't chase as many squirrels.

[Lunchbox]

Okay, thank you. I will receive that.

[Bobby Bones]

That's a common one.

[Lunchbox]

And say thank you.

[Bobby Bones]

Sure is. I just don't like talking on the phone.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

My point is bitcoin bad. And then I'll move off this.

[Amy]

But I just bought more because Bobby did it. I did it.

[Bobby Bones]

I bought it in the 70s. But look at Nvidia, dude.

[Amy]

Oh, I saw it, man.

[Lunchbox]

But that's okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Is it in the red?

[Lunchbox]

Ebbs and flows, guys.

[Amy]

Red 1.

[Bobby Bones]

Is it in the red?

[Amy]

No, it's in the positive, man.

[Bobby Bones]

What do you have overall, Nvidia, we are plus point.

[Amy]

We are plus 8%. We were at like 35%.

[Bobby Bones]

Can you. Will you click the little thing to tell you how much money Overall?

[Amy]

Yeah, we're plus $339.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, cool. And how much do we put in?

[Amy]

So we put in like 4,000. We did $200.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm always so shocked that we gave him that much money to. That's your response every time. Oh, my God. Yeah. Same thing. Like I said, oh, my gosh. For a different reason.

[Amy]

It's been rough, man. I didn't want to wake up to this news.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. So anyway, there's that. Just wanted to put that out there.

[Amy]

Maybe we should go nasdaq. Maybe that's the problem. Maybe we're doing this one in the.

[Bobby Bones]

We should go nasdaq. We didn't know what the Nasdaq.

[Amy]

We should go to the NASDAQ one.

[Bobby Bones]

It looks like the difference is NASDAQ is technology stocks. Okay.

[Amy]

That's where we need to.

[Bobby Bones]

The Dow Jones is like 30 major US companies like Coca Cola and McDonald's. But I imagine you could be. If it's 30 major, you could still be a technology stock. Because Nvidia, Apple, etc. Is in. Yeah, because like, Microsoft is also in that. Former Olympians placed on the FBI's 10 most wanted list with a $10 million reward. Ryan James Wedding, a 43 year old Canadian and former Olympic snowboarder has been added to the FBI's 10 Most Wanted Fugitives list. He's accused of leading a transactional. No. Transnational drug trafficking organization responsible for distributing large quantities of cocaine and fentanyl across America. Whoa, man. When you make that list, because you're with all the, like Chapos and Super Joppos and cartel. I mean, I don't know who else makes terrorists. You make top 10 like you're in post offices. That's what they're called. Hadn't been there in a while, guys.

[Amy]

What year did he compete recently? Like 22 maybe or maybe?

[Bobby Bones]

No. 2002.

[Amy]

2002.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. So it's still semi recently. The Reward supplements the FBI's existing $50,000 offer, but again, there's a $10 million reward. He competed in the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, representing Canada in the men's parallel giant slalom event. That is from CBS News. It's pretty crazy. You're an Olympian and now you're on the. Hey, he does it all at a high level.

[Amy]

That's nuts.

[Bobby Bones]

If you want to raise successful kids, they say, give them chores. Researchers set out to determine whether children who do chores at home are more successful at school. Their study showed that kids who did chores had better academic performances and problem solving skills than kids who weren't given regular chores. Experts recommended starting with a couple of chores every week for them to be responsible with and move to a more important daily chore. Eventually, after a couple weeks, there's a reward payment system that should be implemented, even if small. And this is from the Australian Occupational Therapy Journal. I never got an allowance. I don't think we had the money to give an allowance. I had chores, but it wasn't so much chores for the sake of doing them. I had jobs I had to do or the house broke down. Like one, I had to mow the yard. I didn't get paid for mowing the yard. Two, the tiny bit of plumbing that I've learned is from constantly fixing the sink and the toilet because they were always broken. And by the toilet I mean just whatever that back part is that has the water in it. The tank. Yeah. I didn't study formally, guys. This is informal. So I did have chores, obviously. Took the trash out, did the dishes, et cetera. But Amy, what kind of chores do your kids have?

[Lunchbox]

So they have some where it's like this is just expected of you because you live here, which is the taking the trash out, cleaning the sink, like unloading the dishwasher, loading it and making bed cleaning room. But then there's other stuff they can do and that's ever evolving like a. More.

[Bobby Bones]

Why are you talking like a robot Making bedroom cleaning room.

[Lunchbox]

Make bed clean room. Because I've been playing that poetry for Neanderthals.

[Dr. Josie]

They.

[Lunchbox]

Sorry, it's a fun game. So then there's other things and this is what evolves. Like, it depends on the task and it will often be alongside something they want. And depending on the dollar amount, that's what the chore is that they have to earn. Or they can add it to a birthday list or Christmas list and be patient and wait.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, that's good. That's cool. Do you teach them delayed gratification, like, purposefully?

[Lunchbox]

Yeah. But I am also real bad of like, I'll spot you this now and then slowly, you can pay me back.

[Bobby Bones]

Loan shark. Loan shark. Then you break their toe while they're sleeping if they don't give it back.

[Lunchbox]

I do both. And then I know they bank on me for getting. And I'm like, shoot, I know that they still own me. And then, you know, they get away with it. But I think we have a.

[Bobby Bones]

Would it be awesome at the bank? The bank forgot sometimes.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah, but they don't. They keep a log. That's the thing. I need to keep a log. A digital log.

[Bobby Bones]

I want to go to the bank of Amy. Or sometimes he just might forget. Yeah, I have a shirt on today. My wife got me one of the greatest gifts. It is a. The shirt is from 1981. It is an Andy Kaufman on the front, who's really one of my favorite historical figures ever because of how he did comedy. Not a stand up comedian, a performance artist, but Andy Kaufman, he used to wrestle women. And so he would be like, I'll beat any woman in wrestling. And he would just have women and he'd wrestle them and beat them all. Small women too. And so the shirt on the front is him, the women's wrestling champion of the world. This is Andy. And on the back there's some. But my wife found this on like a vintage site. It's from 1981. It's really one of my favorite cooler gifts. Pretty proud of it this morning. First time I've worn it even. And I even sent it to be cleaned at the cleaners before I wore it the first time.

[Lunchbox]

I don't do this vintage?

[Bobby Bones]

Well, no, I just love it. I don't want it to be messed up.

[Lunchbox]

Oh, like you don't want to put it in your own washing machine.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, first of all, let's be honest. I don't wash clothes. My wife does the laundry. She's pretty good at it. Meaning my stuff doesn't get shrunk a whole lot. However, if I do wash clothes, stuff gets shrunk a whole lot, which is why when I say I don't wash clothes, I hate washing clothes, and I prefer not to wash clothes. But my wife also will block me from washing clothes. And if I'm like, hey, I'm gonna wash this, she's like, why don't you wait a minute? And she also has two bins, two hampers, one for things that. If it's like a suit or something, like, I have to wear a suit today. Because as soon as we're done here, I'm flying to D.C. i'm going to speak to Goldman Sachs today. Speaking of money, well, you better learn.

[Lunchbox]

The difference between the New York Stock Exchange and nasdaq. Hurry, quick.

[Bobby Bones]

He has time.

[Morgan]

Okay.

[Lunchbox]

Study it on the plane.

[Bobby Bones]

No, I just learned from Lunchbox and Mike.

[Amy]

Oh, yeah, we call them.

[Bobby Bones]

It's. Yeah. Goldman's Dow Jones. Yeah, I'll say that. How's. Hey, what's up, everybody?

[Lunchbox]

What up, Dow?

[Bobby Bones]

Don't look at the Dow Jones today or the dj.

[Lunchbox]

Like, do act. Like, do short.

[Bobby Bones]

I can't do that. I can't do that. They'll think I'm a loser. But I've never spoken to a. I've done a lot of either charity groups or I've done privates. I've even done privates where, like, I went to Vegas and I did a private for 10,000 people. So I did speaking and stand up.

[Dr. Josie]

It doesn't seem very private.

[Bobby Bones]

Not. Sorry. Private would mean you can't buy tickets.

[Lunchbox]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

You knew that. Oh, I didn't know. I didn't know. I thought maybe. I'm glad you said that, though, because it makes sense, because I'm talking in language that is used internally, so. Good. I'm glad you said that anyway. But I've never done something like where I'm going to D.C. and speaking to Goldman Sachs, which is pretty crazy because they want my advice. I want to invest in. They heard how I was helping Lunchbox, and they're like, we want in.

[Dr. Josie]

Oh, yeah.

[Lunchbox]

That's crazy.

[Amy]

Really? Did they ask about my.

[Bobby Bones]

They did. Yeah. We're using you as an example of what not to do. Oh, you're the Before. We're doing it before and after. Pretty cool.

[Lunchbox]

Well, I mean, you can finish the laundry thing, but we need to circle back with like what you are going to talk about. Like we just told you.

[Bobby Bones]

No, I don't want to say until I'm done.

[Lunchbox]

Okay, but what's the theme? Like, what really are you gonna like? What really are you. Motivation, life experience, like handling adversity, all that sort of.

[Bobby Bones]

But I have made a couple accidental investments. Oh. That. That I only made them because I grew up very poor. But I've learned from. I've kind of learned from that experience on what and how to do a couple things and they want me to speak on that. So I accidentally have a skill set that I'm speaking on and I'd be happy to let you guys know tomorrow or something.

[Lunchbox]

So you really are talking about investing.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes, but again, not because I'm smart. Because, I mean, because I backed.

[Lunchbox]

It's in different ways.

[Dr. Josie]

I get it.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. If I told you. I don't. I don't think it's a. I don't want to say too much till I can tell you tomorrow.

[Dr. Josie]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

And you would know this more than anybody, Amy, if I told you what I've done and how I've backed into this. But I've done something because I've been so fearful and I'm so scared of money that I invested in a certain way. Didn't even know how to invest. I basically read a book called Rich Dad, Poor dad and then finally got a couple people that I trusted. And so I was like, I don't know what to do with money. What if I just. And it worked. So I did it again. And I've almost made as much money doing this as I have my career.

[Lunchbox]

Why don't you give us this talk?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Give us the book.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

What is that?

[Lunchbox]

We wanna during commercials.

[Amy]

Like you've never given this speech to us.

[Bobby Bones]

I know. Cause I'm scared. We're private, man. It may not work. I don't even believe in it, but I don't even know that. It's like a low key.

[Lunchbox]

But you're gonna tell like real professionals.

[Bobby Bones]

No, it's not. It's not that I'm telling them to do it. I'm explaining why I did it and what happened.

[Dr. Josie]

Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.

[Bobby Bones]

So going to do that. Coming up in a second. I had Dr. Josie, who is our vet. Stanley's been really, really sick. So she's been here every week. She was over here yesterday and I was trying, and I was like, hey, let's do a podcast. She has a podcast called in the vet's office with Dr. Josie. And I was trying to explain to her why dolphins are aliens. And I think she thought I was a little crazy. Um, but you're gonna hear that coming up. And then she really gives some great advice on animals and if you're gonna get a pet or how to take care of your pet or pet insurance. So that's gonna come up inside of this as well. I wanna say one other thing about the podcast here. Over the past 15 years or so, this podcast has been basically my digital child. We were podcasting, I mean, really before podcasting was a thing. We've been podcasting for roughly 20 years now. Everything from podcasting, and while we're doing it writing, I would have somebody sit in the room and write notes to everything we talked about so we could load it up so people could listen to the podcast. And fortunate, like in the book Outliers. Like, I was just podcasting 20 years ago, and so I thought, we'll just podcast and people would be like, wow, you're so ahead of the curve, or, why are you wasting your time podcasting? That's never going to be a thing. So now everybody podcast. I love podcasts. I listen to podcasts more than I do anything else. And so I take great pride in being able to provide content on this podcast. So allow me to be in the weeds for just a second. So we do the show, and now what we're doing is we do one full. We just put the whole radio show up for now. We've tried different things. We put up an early bird and then we put up the whole rest of the show. And people would complain. This is what I've learned now after this last iteration, is people are complaining about every single thing. I. I already knew that was the case, but I'm trying to find what I think is easiest to consume. People are complaining about how we're doing it now, but a quick explanation. We're taking the whole radio show, at least for a while, and we're loading the whole radio show up as one podcast. So from we go on, boom, 5:00am Till it's over, you're going to hear it now. Sometimes we double up bits two and three hours away because our. Our company's like, hey, the attention span of the average listener is 22 minutes. So if you have something really good, put it on a 5 and put it on at 7:30. Something that I was very much against all of my career because it felt lazy to me because I was like, I don't want to double up a bit because I want to do more content, because I don't. I don't want people to feel like I'm not doing work. I don't want to feel like I'm not doing work again. I hold myself to an incredibly high standard. But then it was, you know, I think this is better for the show. If people are listening live and they didn't get to hear a segment that we thought was awesome way early, why not let them hear that same segment again? So, right. Dealing with this. And so now we're trying this way. So segment one, for the most part, is going to be the full radio show. The second, part two is going to be the podcast. I think eventually in the history of the show, it is really moved to a point where the podcast, aside from the radio show, has become instrumental in the success of our digital numbers. But I think in the future, looking ahead, I think at some point we might just be a podcast. I don't know. I hope that's not the case. Although I do hate waking up in the morning. I don't see that happening anytime in the near future. But you just never know. Right? So there's so much stuff we want to talk about on the main show that either a, we don't get to. Because it doesn't even become something we can't talk about till later in the show. Because, like, it's an idea. I have it eight, 48. Or it's something I think we need more than five or six minutes to talk about. And because we have to run on it what they call a clock during the radio show because we have to get to commercials, we play a few songs, not many. There's a clock I can't go on for 15 minutes. So we use the podcast for some of that. It doesn't mean the content used to be like post show stuff we didn't get to. It is not that anymore. It is now stuff that I think we need to sit down and stretch your legs out and spend some real time talking about it. Or it could be bits that I'm like, I wonder if this is even any good. And if not, we can just pivot off of it now. We used to do a show back in Austin where we only. We just turned. There was no music. We just turned the mics on and went for five hours and we talked the whole time. Because we're a syndicated show now, and we're in all these markets, and we're in new markets all the time. That is not good for us, especially ratings, because we go in these new cities and people don't want to hear people talk forever that they don't know. And I think we all understand that. So it has been a bit of a transition. The other thing has been the podcast feed, which, again, I get really irritated when, like, random things show up in the feed because, again, I've tried to keep this thing as pristine and as easy as possible to navigate. That being said, I don't own the feedback. And so some of my frustrations are when things pop up in that feed that I have no idea what they are. A couple of things, like, I've never put the Bobbycast really in the feed. And last week it went up in the feed on Friday night, and I can tell you why in a second. But like, that Bobbycast is a podcast that I've been doing with Mike for how many years? Started in 2016, so almost 10 years. Yeah, almost 10. If I were gonna just take my stuff and throw it in a feed, I'd be putting that in there. Cause that thing does really well.

[Alec Baldwin]

But.

[Bobby Bones]

But I sure would love the extra hits on the Bobby Boncho feed. I've never done that, though, because I don't want to do it. Now you can say, well, what about 25 whistles it's in the feed. That would have never been in the feed had DraftKings not said, hey, we want to sponsor you to do a sports show. I wasn't doing sports at the time. I really never thought I'd get back into sports. Love it, but I never thought I would. But DraftKings was like, we want to do this. We will pay your company X amount of dollars to put it in the Bobby Bone show feed, and we'll pay you. Now, the reason they didn't say, we'll just pay you to do it from scratch is because any podcast launching from scratch is just not going to have a lot of listeners. It's going to take six months, nine months, a year. So why would they pay a bunch of money and start brand new? So it started in the feed. Well, now if we take it out of the feed, we regress and everybody makes less money, including the company, including DraftKings. So 25 Whistles is in the feed. Wasn't my choice. I would not have put it in the feed initially. But now we can't take it out because everybody loses money. Streams will go down. The NFL Podcast that I do. I don't own that. So where I do have ownership in other of my podcasts or podcast network, I don't own the NFL feed. But what the NFL and the company did is they traded, hey, we'll do feed drops here. If you do feed drops there, because NFL owns it and the company owns it. This is the one that I do not own. I actually have literal bosses on this that say occasionally, hey, what if you do this instead? Which means do this instead. So that's in the feed because of the same reason. And now if it gets pulled from the feed, numbers go down and then sponsorships go away. Why do we have less numbers? So it's not my perfect world that those sports shows are in the feedback. I get it. I'm okay with it. I mean, listen, it is my show. Like, this show's my show. Those are my shows. But I wouldn't have done that from the beginning because I'm so precious about the feed. A couple weeks ago, podcast started popping up from the Buy Bone show or the Nashville Podcast Network, which I own. That was not me who put them there. I would not have put them there. As a matter of fact, at one point, I was like, hey, Scuba, why are these in there? And he was like, I don't know. We'll figure it out. And I also understand, because the company owns these and they want to generate revenue, so where they would just stick them all week in random spots. I said, hey, can we do this? Can we put them on the weekends? Because shows aren't happening on the weekends. So we do the shows on Friday night. I think they put a Bobby cast this week. And then, like, Movie Mike popped up on Saturday, Lunchbox Sore Losers. And Ray popped up on Saturday, Amy's Four Things on Sunday. So that way it's cleaner. And if you want to hear those shows, they are right there. Maybe people who aren't exposed to them on the Bobby and Show feed gets them right there. The only ones that I really have problems with are the ones that have nothing to do with us. And we're addressing that now. And. And they can just tell me, bobby, shut up. Honestly. Because I don't own the feed. And so. And I love Granger. Granger's great. I mean, I would say Granger is a friend, but his, like, podcast is popping up on our feed, and people are like, what's going on? I don't know. I don't know why it's popping up in the feed. And so that's weird to me. Because he's not part of our world. Buddy is part of the company's world. And if the company's like, we. We're putting it in there, I gotta go. Like, yes, sir. Can I have another. Basically trying to work it out. But I did go to our bosses and go, hey, cool. Like, I'd prefer it not to be in our feed. Not. Because I don't love Granger. And while my contractor's coming up, and I don't know if this is the company playing it's. Or I'm just getting erotic, the company's like, you know, if you don't resign, you know, we can. We can go to Granger and. And I don't know if it's them playing like a head game as well. I don't think it is, because I love Granger too much. This is nothing against him, but I went to somebody in the company, I said, hey, you want to put Granger in the feed? Fine. Then you need to put our show somewhere else big. So we're going to. If we want to do this. Okay, play Granger. Granger. That's a great job. And Granger has gone from being a platinum artist to a guy that loves the Lord, and that's what he talks about. And I'm all for it. We're about to launch a podcast about that ourselves. But I'm like, hey, put us in Elvis Strand's podcast feed then. And so I just want everybody to know I also, because I spent so much time trying to keep it as easy to navigate as possible, it bothers me, but not so much that I don't understand it, because I do, because I don't own it. I work for a company, a company that's been great to me. And if the company says, you got to do this, yes, sir, can I have another? But I just want everybody to know, like, where. Because I get so many messages and DMs about this. That's exactly. That's as fully transparent as I could possibly be. And I think now how we have it with the other podcast being on the weekends, I think that works pretty well. And if they want to keep Granger in the podcast, all good. Love Granger. But let's put our show then and other people's podcasts and annoy them. That's what I say. And we could use the extra streams. Our podcast is a monster, but monsters have to eat too. The monster wants to grow here, but that's all. I love our company. I completely support and understand what they want to do. If they continue to do it, nothing I can do. Not going to fight it, but I just want to explain it because I'm just getting kicked in the nuts over it every time I get in my dms. So, Mike, I feel like that's fully, that's, that's transparent as possible. That's very transparent. Probably more than I should have been. Yeah. So now I'll get to Dr. Josie, who I think this is so interesting, but thank you, guys. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. You know, who is your support system? That's always an important question even to ask yourself, like, who is my support system? Who do I rely on whenever I have questions and I can trust their answer with no bias. And that's hard because we all have a little bias in us. And whose support system are you a part of? Right. It's always great to reevaluate who you're there for and why you're there for them. And at times your therapist can be a massive part of your support system. 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[Gavin Newsom]

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[Alec Baldwin]

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[Gavin Newsom]

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[Alec Baldwin]

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[Bobby Bones]

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[Bobby Bones]

Okay. We are at my house. It's me and Dr. Josie, and this is on the Bobby Bowen show podcast. So I had to learn how to reset everything up. I haven't had to turn on all the equipment, run audio. I haven't had to do this myself in years. So if this makes it to anyone's ears, thank you so much. I do want to start with, I hurt my ankle playing pickleball and you just asked if I needed an X rayed. Can you X ray humans?

[Dr. Josie]

I can if you're out there listening. Licensing board. Please don't come for me. But.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes, but, like, in, like, a dire situation.

[Dr. Josie]

Of course.

[Bobby Bones]

God, it reminds me of Walking Dead. Whenever the vet has to work on the humans, I would imagine if that happened and zombies happened and the world was. Or not even zombies. Let's say we were in some sort of getting attacked by Russia or China and people were dying and we're all having to fight for ourselves, you probably would have to be a human doctor real quick.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah. You want. Honestly, you want a veterinarian on your team more so than a human doctor? Because nowadays human doctors are so specialized. You've got your people that only deal with GI tracts, or you've got your doctors that only work on hearts. Like, as a veterinarian, we do it all.

[Bobby Bones]

That's a good point. So on our show, we often talk about who would be the most valuable if the world ended. And, like, I'm kind of ready.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah, I could see that. Minus your bum ankle.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, mine's my. And if this were caveman days or zombie days, my bum ankle, I'd probably dead. Because that's all. That's all it takes and you're dead. Or if it's the 1700s, like you out, bad ankle, body onto. Might as well kill him because he's no use to us anymore.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you have an X ray machine at your house?

[Dr. Josie]

I don't have one at my house.

[Bobby Bones]

I did for animals. For animals.

[Dr. Josie]

For animals. I did just start a concierge business where I go to people's homes and take care of their animals, but I don't have an X ray machine at my house. They're like hundreds of thousands of doll dollars. But I have a practice that I can call and if I need to take an X ray, they'll let me come by and bring the patient with me.

[Bobby Bones]

How has that been from having. Because you had a couple of. What do you call them? Not offices, but you had a couple of business clinics. Clinics. How has that been? Because I know that now. You are concierge and you sold your clinics.

[Dr. Josie]

I sold my clinics. I woke up one day and I was managing 30 people, and I said, you know, I don't really want to do this anymore. I think I just want to take care of animals. And so instead of taking care of people, instead of managing people, which is very challenging. And I didn't go to school to do that, so I learned a lot and I loved every second of it. My team was amazing. But, yes, sold the practices. And now I get to drive around every day with my best friend, who's also a vet nurse. And we go to people's homes and take care of their pets in the home, which is awesome because the pets are so. I mean, you know us well. Stanley now know. He's on to me. He knows why I'm here. But the dogs are just. And cats are just so much more chill in their own house.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, it's a good point. I think about that because they're in a foreign environment. If they're inside of a house or a business, they're not used to. They probably pee all the time when they're somewhere they're not supposed to.

[Dr. Josie]

They're scared. Yeah. I mean, yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Anywhere I go, I'm not used to. I pee.

[Dr. Josie]

I know. You need to stop doing that.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Okay, so here's. I'm gonna have a lot of. I have a vet question or eight coming up. I do want to talk about why I think dolphins might be aliens. I don't know if you've ever heard this theory.

[Dr. Josie]

I have not.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, I'm gonna do that in a second. Okay. But first, oh, by the way, Josie has a great podcast. You guys subscribe to it. If you don't mind, just, heck, listen to it first. He had a really good episode with Morgan Gilsman.

[Dr. Josie]

Morgan.

[Bobby Bones]

Morgan number two.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

But you guys check out Dr. Josie in the vet's office with Dr. Josie. It's really great, especially about animals, but also she has a lot of great guests. Justin was a really good guest.

[Dr. Josie]

Justin Anderson.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah, we are. Season three is getting ready to launch in about three weeks, and we've got some awesome guest lines up.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, you guys check out in the vet's office with Dr. Josey. So we've had some issues with Stanley. So Stanley's my bulldog. Stanley is. I don't even know how old he is. Like 100 now, but really, he's like 5.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah, he's 5. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I love Stanley more than anything in the whole world, but I Will tell people, don't get a bulldog. And people get upset at me for saying that. They're like, why would you tell people not to get a bulldog? Whenever you have a bulldog and you love them so much, don't get a bulldog. For a couple of reasons. And this is me talking, not you, because I'd like for you to tell me if it's how you feel about my direction here. Number one, everything's wrong with them as soon as you get them. Everything's wrong with them because they have been inbred for generations to look a certain way.

[Dr. Josie]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

And so when they are in bread, their. Their health is terrible because of that. It's the same. It's like the tree doesn't have branch, it's just a straight trunk.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

So when I got him, he was all, I think I got a broken, broken dog. Because those dogs. And I tell you, my friend Andy Roddick, the tennis player, had a couple of bulldogs and he's been rich for a long time. And even he said to me, when I said, hey, I'm getting this bulldog, I'm taking it from a friend. He was like, oh, don't do that. He said, they cost a ton. I was like, well, I'm not going to really pay much for it except to get it here because it's sick. He was like, you're. He said, take it from me, you're going to pay so much. You're going to go, oh, my God, why did I do this? And he loves his bulldogs. And he said, don't get a bulldog. And I did anyway. And again, I will say, I love that dog. I would cut off a finger if it's like, he's gonna die tomorrow or I cut off a finger, I will take a hatchet and chop off my pinky. I'm not kidding. I for sure would like, that's my dude. So I'm not talking about him specifically. I know, but I got him and he was sick when I got him. He was a. I have a friend whose mom, she doesn't so much breed them, she raises them. And so it's not like a breeder where she constantly pumps them out, but she had like six and she kept two. Gave a couple to friends and. But one was like, sick and had a messed up eye.

[Dr. Josie]

Poor Stanley.

[Bobby Bones]

And my friend was like, hey, if you'll take. If you'll just pay for them to fly, like for her to fly them over, you can have them.

[Dr. Josie]

That was the cheapest part of.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, it was a cheap by far. It was a cheap. And I was like, I'm in. And Dusty, my dog for, for 12 years had died and I was never going to get another dog. Never. When we had to put him down, it was the worst. It was, it's. I still hear Jack Johnson, which, you know, the, the friend song. And I still get sad about that because that's the song I listen to with him all the time. I listen to it when I. We had to put him down and I was like, I'm never getting another dog. I'm not going through that again.

[Dr. Josie]

There's nothing worse.

[Bobby Bones]

There's nothing worse. And so we had to put him down by myself, with the doctor. It sucked. And by the way, when I ever had to take his ashes, I went back to Texas and I dumped his ashes in every yard we ever lived in together. And we into people's houses that were living there now. So I was like, who's this crazy.

[Dr. Josie]

Person in the front yard?

[Bobby Bones]

No. Yeah. I was like going over the backyard fence. No, I know. And my first book, now maybe my second book because he was sick, my second book I dedicated to him and I was like, this is to Stanley. I know you'll never read this mostly because you're a dog and you can't read. But I, but like not Stanley, but Dusty. So I was never getting another dog. My friend was like, you take one of these bulldogs, it's sick. I was like, you know what? Fine, maybe I'm. I can love something. And immediately money, money, money, money, money.

[Dr. Josie]

Two knee surgeries later, eyeball surgery.

[Bobby Bones]

He's had double digit, at least, at least 10 surgeries. So that's, that's the number one reason is that they are sick when they're not sick.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah. Even just their confirmation just makes them.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't know what that means.

[Dr. Josie]

Like just the way that they're built like they're.

[Bobby Bones]

Is that what it's called? Confirmation?

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah, they're tiny little airways. I went to when I just did a dental on him six months ago and I went to intubate him which is when you put their breathing tube in under anesthesia.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Dr. Josie]

A dog his size, normally I would use. We'll just say like a 8 or 9 size breathing tube for him. I had to use like a five. Like go down so small because his airway is so narrow. I could barely.

[Bobby Bones]

We had the surgery though too on him.

[Dr. Josie]

I know you did, but I mean I think he breathes better than if you didn't have the surgery. But that's what's Crazy.

[Bobby Bones]

We had the surgery on his tongue or whatever. Or whatever they do. And so number one is the fact that they are sick and you just have to pump money into it. I'm not kidding. And this is not a flex. I bet you that I. And this even before my wife, I bet you I've put 80, $90,000 into him.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah, I bet you're right.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Just surgeries. 10,000 here.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And I would do it again, but luckily, at this point in my life, I have the money to do that. If this would have been 20 years ago when I was broke. No chance.

[Dr. Josie]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

So that's number one. Number two, they don't live very long. And I'm already sad that he's going to die soon. And he's five. I get sad all the time thinking about he's going to die soon.

[Dr. Josie]

It's called anticipatory grief.

[Bobby Bones]

It sucks.

[Dr. Josie]

It sucks. You know, I have more owners say to me, I was more sad when my dog died than when my own mom or my own grandma died, because they get into bed like they're with us every single day, sleeping with us, like it's such an intimate relationship.

[Bobby Bones]

So what's wrong with Stanley? Because you've been here. Not that you're not here anyway, because we are. We're real life friends.

[Dr. Josie]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

Not even just real life buddies. Like we're real life friends. Yes. But you have been here a lot. What's wrong with Stanley?

[Dr. Josie]

Stanley was. Has always not had the best stomach, but lately he was having a lot more diarrhea, as you know. Actually, this is very funny. Caitlin sent me a picture. And Stanley will sit up next to the wall, and his little butthole will be pressed up against the wall. And he was having diarrhea, so he was inking little butthole stains all over your walls and.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, yeah. Whenever, whatever. What's the artist in. In Europe that does all that?

[Dr. Josie]

Like Banksy.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. When Banksy does it. Thank you. When Banksy does it, it's art. When Stanley does it, he's ruining the wall.

[Dr. Josie]

He is printing his butthole all over your wall.

[Bobby Bones]

I know. It's like, so. But this was, like, happening for a month and a half. We were trying everything.

[Dr. Josie]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

So what ended up happening? Like, why. What are you doing with him every week now?

[Dr. Josie]

So we ended up running some blood work. He had really low protein levels. And coming to find out he's losing protein through his GI tract because he has inflammatory bowel disease. Ibd.

[Bobby Bones]

Did we do that?

[Dr. Josie]

You did not do that. No, that is probably there's some genetic component to it because he's a bulldog and. And it can just happen, just like humans. Some. My sister has IBD and I don't, you know, just.

[Bobby Bones]

I have ibs. Is that worse than ibd?

[Dr. Josie]

It's very similar.

[Bobby Bones]

And they may have got it for me. Yeah, we both have it. I also go out in the yard and. And why have Caitlin watch me poop just to see.

[Dr. Josie]

Are you doing butthole prints on the wall?

[Bobby Bones]

I was telling Caitlyn, I was like, I did that. Trying to get her not to be mad at Stanley.

[Dr. Josie]

Stanley, yeah, like that was me.

[Bobby Bones]

And Eller is a metal, like a machine. Oh, like metal. The Trojan horse.

[Dr. Josie]

Guts of steel.

[Bobby Bones]

Just everything about her. But again, she's like seven different kinds of dogs. One that we just the mutts adopted off the street. Who wasn't inbred.

[Dr. Josie]

The Mutts. Actually, what was it, a month ago you called me or Caitlyn called me at like 9 o'clock at night. And you're like, ellar just ate a whole raw loaf.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh my God, I forgot about that.

[Dr. Josie]

Of sourdough bread. And most people are like, oh, whatever, it's bread, it's not a big deal. But I actually was like, this could be a huge problem because sourdough bread that's not cooked will go into their stomachs and then that like heat and acidity of the stomach cooks it. The bread raises it, then releases ethanol.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, it cooks it. That's why. Yeah, because it's hot in there.

[Dr. Josie]

Yes. The bread will expand and then not only that, but the yeast turns to ethanol, which is alcohol, which absorbs into their bloodstream and they get drunk, like life threatening drunk. So yeah, we had to make her throw up.

[Bobby Bones]

That's rough.

[Dr. Josie]

That was rough.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, so we called and I forgot about that. That was a crazy night. So we called you and you were like, do this, do this, and if this does this, I'll be right over. And then you said, call whatever that number was. We called as well. And so we called whatever that number was. The 1-800-make-US pay you on the credit card. Just, just poison. It's like dog Poison control. I guess it is.

[Dr. Josie]

It's a bunch of toxicologists for animals.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Dr. Josie]

Your dog ever eats something and you don't know, you should call aspca, the Toxin Poison Control Hotline.

[Bobby Bones]

So we call and they're like, all right, we'd like to help you. That'll be $90, pay up front.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And we're like, dang but we were so worried because Kaylin had made this sourdough loaf that she likes to make bread. And she had put it on a part of the counter that Eller couldn't have gotten to. But Ellar got. Went chair.

[Dr. Josie]

She's a ninja.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. She went chair to the top of the counter, pulled it all the way down, didn't move the plate. So that's how we didn't know that she had it. We just. We didn't know it was just gone.

[Dr. Josie]

She, like, parkoured off the wall because.

[Bobby Bones]

Caitlyn made two, and the other one wasn't even touched. Wasn't even moved. The plate hadn't moved. And so we called, and they were like, that's really bad. It was exactly what you said. And they said, do the.

[Dr. Josie]

Give her hydrogen peroxide.

[Bobby Bones]

And that's what we did. And then walk the crap out of her.

[Dr. Josie]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

So that's. I just walk, walk, walk, walk. Hydrogen. And she was like, look, finally, because we weren't for sure, she ate it because it was just gone. We weren't for sure. And finally, when she threw up, because I walked with her for 30 minutes.

[Dr. Josie]

Straight, we didn't think she was gonna throw up. So I'm like, all right, I'll come over.

[Bobby Bones]

Yep.

[Dr. Josie]

And then.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. You were gonna induce the vomiting.

[Dr. Josie]

The second I pull into your driveway, she throws up.

[Bobby Bones]

And it was a loaf of bread.

[Dr. Josie]

It was so gross.

[Bobby Bones]

It was so gross. Yeah. So is that any bread or just sourdough?

[Dr. Josie]

That's mainly. Mainly sourdough, but really any kind of raw. Anything with raw dough with yeast in it can cause that issue.

[Bobby Bones]

Dang. So bulldogs.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah. Back to Stanley. He has ibd.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. And he's been real. And you've been having to take his blood every week?

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah, I've checked his blood. I have to give him a cobalamine injection every week for six weeks. So I just. I should have a key to the house at this point.

[Bobby Bones]

He doesn't back away from any guest when they come to the house. He has started to think twice when you come over.

[Dr. Josie]

It makes me so sad.

[Bobby Bones]

It's the first time ever. He doesn't just blindly love whomever's at the door. He will run at you and go up.

[Dr. Josie]

He comes to the door, and then he sees me, and he's like, oh, no.

[Bobby Bones]

He stops.

[Dr. Josie]

Uhhuh.

[Bobby Bones]

Where Eller doesn't. She's all about it. She pees a little. Loves it, the whole thing. But Stanley isn't. But when you gave him a shot the other day, didn't hurt. It didn't hurt him at all.

[Dr. Josie]

No, he doesn't flinch. He's like. He's just. He's smart.

[Bobby Bones]

I agree. He's just stubborn. He's a stubborn boy, but very smart. Like, he listens to commands and does things like to. Caitlyn is Eller's alpha. Eller doesn't listen to me at all. Eller comes to me because I will love on her and I don't boss her around very much. Caitlyn is Eller's alpha. St. I am Stanley's alpha, and he listens to everything I say. Nothing to Caitlyn.

[Dr. Josie]

He has selective hearing.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, my God.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Very selective.

[Dr. Josie]

It's a thing.

[Bobby Bones]

And so when someone says to you, hey, I'm thinking about getting a bulldog, what do you say?

[Dr. Josie]

I say, you should have a very large savings account. And I wouldn't. I don't really recommend it. I. I mean, gosh, I hate all those people out there with bulldogs. They're such lovely dogs.

[Bobby Bones]

I agree. Love, love mine, but they just have.

[Dr. Josie]

A lot of issues.

[Bobby Bones]

Very expensive.

[Dr. Josie]

Very like.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, just naturally. It's not even. You have to get a bad one.

[Dr. Josie]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

If you have a normal one, it's going to cost you a lot of money.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah. No matter what. Even the most. Well, I mean, and Stanley is beautiful and his confirmation is amazing. Like, his body is gorgeous, but he is. He's just a. They cost a lot of money.

[Bobby Bones]

What's happening now? Is he almost better?

[Dr. Josie]

We are. He's going to have IBD forever, so he'll probably be on medications for the rest of his life. But we're just kind of getting him out of the weeds right now. But we just rechecked his bulb work today. I'll text you tomorrow. We'll go from there. But he's definitely getting better.

[Bobby Bones]

Average lifespan of a bulldog, eight, nine.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah, that sucks.

[Bobby Bones]

It sucks.

[Dr. Josie]

I had a great day. And the same thing like, she died at 6, 7 years old is just not long enough.

[Bobby Bones]

Really. It's like massive. Well, massive. Anything except animals. Like, elephants live forever, but, like, massive humans die quicker. Yeah, that sucks. Okay, let me talk about dolphins for a second.

[Dr. Josie]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

You ever do a dolphin?

[Dr. Josie]

Like, I have never done medicine on a dolphin. I took one class in vet school about fish or aquatic animals.

[Bobby Bones]

Otherwise, I do people bring in fish.

[Dr. Josie]

We will anesthetize fish.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't know what that means.

[Dr. Josie]

Like, put them under anesthesia. You sprinkle a little something into the water. Camera, what it's called. And then the Fish swims up to the top, belly up and is.

[Bobby Bones]

It looks dead.

[Dr. Josie]

Looks dead. And people will do full blown surgeries on the fish.

[Bobby Bones]

No.

[Dr. Josie]

While they're in the water? Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

You don't.

[Dr. Josie]

I do not. I only do fluffy things. Dogs, cats, a horse here and there. But I do know vets that do that.

[Bobby Bones]

So will they do those on like really expensive fish? Is that how, how and why a fish would be done?

[Dr. Josie]

I think, like, they'll do it on like if you have a goldfish you love. No way they'll do it.

[Bobby Bones]

I was reading a story yesterday about goldfish that when released into streams, lakes, ponds, rivers, how they're growing into 10, 15, 20 pounds because. Yeah, because they stayed the shape of whatever they're in. And people are putting gold and they're monster. They end up being monster fish.

[Dr. Josie]

Monster goldfish.

[Bobby Bones]

The guy's hands are like three feet apart and he was holding the fish and it was gold. And I would have thought it was some oddly colored, like large mouth, but no, no, it's a freaking goldfish that someone put. Let out.

[Dr. Josie]

And goldfish are savage. They will eat. Like if you have a goldfish and you put other little fish in the tank, the other fish are goners. The goldfish will eat them.

[Bobby Bones]

No way. You ever feel bad that goldfish just sit in a bowl with nothing to do? There's like no playground equipment. There's like they just flip around, you.

[Dr. Josie]

Know, I haven't really given it that much thought till right now.

[Bobby Bones]

Makes me sad. Like there's like they don't even know what's going on.

[Dr. Josie]

Maybe we should start a goldfish.

[Bobby Bones]

They do nothing.

[Dr. Josie]

Like save the goldfish. Playgrounds for goldfish.

[Bobby Bones]

Like a go a goldfish bowl a. Makes me feel so sad.

[Dr. Josie]

It is sad. They need some enrichment.

[Bobby Bones]

There's nothing terrible. We used to have sucker fish.

[Dr. Josie]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you know sucker fish?

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah, I do.

[Bobby Bones]

Where they would suck on the side, but they would clean all of. They would clean the tank.

[Dr. Josie]

At least they had a job.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes. Like they went to work, they had their lunch pail. They found their. Their fulfillment.

[Dr. Josie]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, dolphins. So you never worked on a dolphin?

[Dr. Josie]

I have not.

[Bobby Bones]

Dolphin's not a fish, though.

[Dr. Josie]

It's not.

[Bobby Bones]

Dolphin's a mammal.

[Dr. Josie]

That's correct.

[Bobby Bones]

Dolphins might be aliens.

[Dr. Josie]

I can't wait to hear this.

[Bobby Bones]

So dolphins have highly advanced brains with their brain to body ratio meaning size second to only humans and barely. So we're talking size of body to brain same as ours. Almost exactly the same size. Because you think about the size of our brain. It's not near the size of everything else combined, but it's pretty massive when compared to anything, any other animal's brain compared to them. So highly developed brains, brain to body ratio. Very close to humans. They have extreme self awareness, meaning put them in front of a mirror, they know it's a mirror.

[Dr. Josie]

How do you know this?

[Bobby Bones]

Well, I don't. I read. I read doctors that have written this.

[Dr. Josie]

I need to look this up.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, well, I spent a lot. It's a whole. It's a whole hole I went down. So they, they passed the mirror test.

[Dr. Josie]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

There are times where I'm walking in front of a mirror where I don't think it's a mirror. I think it's another part of the store. You ever do that?

[Dr. Josie]

Absolutely.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm like, d. This Jew store goes forever.

[Dr. Josie]

It's huge.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. And it's like there's a mirror right in front of me. So I don't even pass the mirror test all the time. They have problem solving skills, emotions, even cultural learning. More advanced than primates.

[Dr. Josie]

I mean, they are so smart. You see them.

[Bobby Bones]

And the reason we don't see them more is because literally they're in the water and we don't see in the water. Some believe. And this is where it starts, Their intelligence could rival that of an advanced extraterrestrial species. Okay, now it goes on. Their communication is mysterious. Dolphins use a complex system of clicks, whistles, and body movements that scientists, even after studying for decades, do not fully understand.

[Dr. Josie]

It's like Morse code.

[Bobby Bones]

Dolphins can understand what we're doing. We still cannot understand what they're doing. Tell me that ain't crazy.

[Dr. Josie]

That is crazy.

[Bobby Bones]

Next, some researchers believe their form of communication could be as or more complex than the human language, potentially even carrying information in ways that we don't comprehend. They talk about if there are advanced civilizations, how they will not speak, but they can feel through each other. A bit of telekinesis even, that dolphins seemingly around other dolphins have that even without the clicks or whistles.

[Dr. Josie]

Haven't dolphins been used in war?

[Bobby Bones]

Yes, well, yes. So in 19. In the 1960s, NASA had funded, and this guy was named John C. Lilly. They funded him. They said, hey, teach dolphins English because we think they can freaking learn to understand English. They even speculated in written works that they might have extraterrestrial origins. So that's where it came from. Unlike most mammals. Again, these are mammals, whales and dolphins, Both mammals that live in the water. Which is both weird because really mammals don't.

[Dr. Josie]

Correct.

[Bobby Bones]

Live in the water. Dolphins evolved to thrive in the ocean. Some theorists suggest dolphins did not originate on earth but they were placed here. Their sonar abilities, which is called echolocation, are more advanced than any technology that humans have developed. Their echolocation does things that we cannot do even through radio or long distance form technology.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Like of all the technology that we've developed we cannot do it as well as they do naturally. Some. And this is when I got into the UFO enthusiast. So this goes a little nutty. They claim, and I have read this too, that aliens, we'll call them aliens. That they don't come from deep space, they come from below. Because we only know like 5% of the Earth's surface. That's all we've mapped under the Earth. The ocean surface.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah. There's a ton of it that we don't know.

[Bobby Bones]

95. We have no idea what's down there. We've never been to the bottom of it. We don't know what's. And over 90% of it at all. And that dolphins come from the deep ocean. And that since aliens. I hate the word aliens. But they've been hiding underwater and it aligns with the dolphins behaviors and their communication skills. Now when you go back to more science reality. Do I believe dolphins are aliens? No. But I do believe dolphins are so crazy intelligent scientifically. Dolphins evolved from land dwelling mammals millions of years ago. Their intelligence is earth based, shaped by survival needs. The alien idea is a very fun idea. Yes. But we as humans do not have some of the abilities that they have. As what? We're just like dumb water animals? Some people feel. So we fully don't understand how they communicate. Which is crazy. We're supposed to be smarter than them.

[Dr. Josie]

And they're getting the last laugh.

[Bobby Bones]

How?

[Dr. Josie]

Because they're smarter than us.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes.

[Dr. Josie]

Did you see the video of the angler fish?

[Bobby Bones]

I don't know what that is.

[Dr. Josie]

Oh, I have to send you this.

[Bobby Bones]

The video of the whale that ate the dude on the. In the boat.

[Dr. Josie]

Yes. When he was kayaking.

[Bobby Bones]

That's freaking crazy.

[Dr. Josie]

And then spit him out.

[Bobby Bones]

That's.

[Dr. Josie]

Can you imagine that?

[Bobby Bones]

Crazy. Yeah. I got him in there and was like I don't like this.

[Dr. Josie]

This is gross.

[Bobby Bones]

And I was reading more about it. And so that kind of dolphin eats a lot of krill. Breaking news to that dolphin. That was not krill.

[Dr. Josie]

So it's a big, big piece of krill.

[Bobby Bones]

It is. Again they have to speculate because you can't interview a whale.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

That once the guy in the boat went down the well was like, this is not krill. So I'm gonna go ahead and spit it back out. But the dude's lucky he wasn't chomped and killed even to be let go. But he's like, he wasn't chomped.

[Dr. Josie]

Yes. Those jaws are huge.

[Alec Baldwin]

Hey, it's Alec Baldwin. This season on my podcast, here's the thing. I speak with California Governor Gavin Newsom.

[Gavin Newsom]

I watch Fox. I pay attention to Newsmax one American news. I don't turn my back to the critics, but there is a sort of California derangement syndrome out there that is just sort of ridiculous. This notion that this is the only state that has challenges. It's just comedic, but it's damaging. We record breaking tourism last year. We have a surplus again. We have a state with population growing again. You wouldn't know that. That's not prevalent. It's not part of the discussion.

[Alec Baldwin]

Engulfed by the fires.

[Gavin Newsom]

It's been engulfed in the fires. It's, you know, it's a failed state, you know, California. But for me, you know, it's pride. For me again, as a guy who lives here, cares about the state, is to make a case anew for it. And I'm a little Clintonian about it. There's nothing wrong with it. It can't be fixed by what's right with it.

[Alec Baldwin]

Listen to the new season of here's the thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

This is John Cameron Mitchell and my new fiction podcast series Cancellation stars Holly Hunter as Karen, a wellness influencer who launches a rehab for the recently cancelled. In the future, we will all be canceled for 15 minutes. But don't worry, we'll take you from broke to woke or your money back. Cancellation Island's revolutionary rehab therapies like bad touch football, anti racism, spin class and mandatory ayahuasca ceremonies are designed designed to force the council to confront their worst impulses. But everything starts to fall apart when people start disappearing. Karen, where have you brought us Cancellation island, where a second chance might just be your last. Listen to Cancellation island on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Alec Baldwin]

I'm Mark Seale.

[Mark Seal]

And I'm Nathan King.

[Alec Baldwin]

This is Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli.

[Bobby Bones]

The five families did not want us to shoot that picture.

[Mark Seal]

Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli is based on my co host Mark's best selling book of the same title. And on this show we call upon his years of research to help Unpack the story behind the Godfather's birth from start to finish.

[Bobby Bones]

This is really the first interview I've done in bed.

[Mark Seal]

We sift through innumerable counts.

[Bobby Bones]

35 pages isn't very much.

[Mark Seal]

Many of them conflicting.

[Bobby Bones]

That's nonsense.

[Mark Seal]

There were 60 pages and try to get to the truth of what really happened.

[Bobby Bones]

And they said we're finished. This is over. Not only is not going to work, you gotta get rid of those guys. It's a disaster.

[Mark Seal]

Leave the Gun Take the Cannoli features new and archival interviews with Francis Ford Coppola, Robert Evans, James Caan, Talia Shire and many others.

[Alec Baldwin]

Yes, that was a real horse's head.

[Mark Seal]

Listen and subscribe to Leave the Gun. Take the Cannoli on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Morgan]

I started to live a double life when I was a teenager. Responsible and driven and wild and out of control. My head is pounding. I'm confused. I don't know why I'm in jail. It's hard to understand what hope is when you're trapped in a cycle of addiction. Addiction took me to the darkest places. I had an AK47 pointed at my head. But one night a new door opened and I made it into the rooms of recovery. The path would have roadblocks and detours, stalls and relapses. But when I was feeling the most lost, I found hope with community and I made my way back. This season joined me on my journey through addiction and recovery. A story told in 12 steps. Listen to Crumbs as part of the Michael Luda Podcast Network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dr. Josie]

Do you? I didn't realize you had such a fascination with marine biology.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't. It's aliens I have fascination with.

[Dr. Josie]

I see.

[Bobby Bones]

Except I don't call them aliens. And I think that they're probably from another dimension. Now let me explain dimensions.

[Dr. Josie]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

And how I had to be taught it. We're. We're on the same line right here. Me and you. We can talk, we can see each other. I can throw something. You can catch it when I watch television show. If I'm on Netflix, I'm watching. We're watching a show now called the Recruit. Meh. It's okay at the same time. That's the more watching at the same time on an. There's another stream that's running or another channel that's happening at the exact same time, but we're just not on it right then. It's still happening.

[Dr. Josie]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

So if you're flipping, even if you're flipping channels, I'm watching Saturday Night Live, but over on cbs, something else is happening at the same time. But the, the dimension that we're in right then is that NBC dimension. So do I think there's probably things we don't know about and haven't been able to understand? Yeah, probably.

[Dr. Josie]

I think so.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, if you were to explain a PlayStation 5 to a pilgrimage that have been like, there's that. That's not a thing.

[Dr. Josie]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

That's not a thing. And first of all, a TV image coming from another place and then you're able to control it and then you're able to play against other. The concept would be so mind blowing, they wouldn't even understand what you were trying to explain to them, much less be able to say no to it.

[Dr. Josie]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

So do I think that there's probably a version of that now? Yes, because there's always been a version of that. Every single civilization.

[Dr. Josie]

You're right.

[Bobby Bones]

So I don't know that there's really a dimension where there's other people living or alternate universes. What I know is I know nothing. And for me to say that something is not happening would be absolutely the most ignorant thing I could do.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah, I agree with that. I think to give it like a blanket. No.

[Bobby Bones]

And that's what drives me crazy.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

When people go like, there are no way. Right. How can you say that with every single civilization there has been in the decades or centuries to follow, things that would have blown the minds of those civilizations. And it's happened at a consistent rate for all of time. So for us to think that's not going to happen to us in three centuries, that would be looking at history and saying something that's happened over and over of all time is not going to happen to us. And that would be ignorant.

[Dr. Josie]

That's silly. So we're just like teeny tiny little ants. Kind of is crazy if you think about it.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. The fact that you don't want to get me. So. Yes. I'm not so much interested. Kaylin. When I get on it.

[Dr. Josie]

Well.

[Bobby Bones]

And I have a couple friends. What I know. When we go to dinner, it's all we're going to talk about is like, does.

[Dr. Josie]

Do you look forward to that? You're like, yes, I can't wait to go to dinner and talk about aliens. Are you like, oh, no, this is tax.

[Bobby Bones]

It's not so much aliens either. But like that, like double slit theory.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

So quantum physics, string theory, like, I love all of that. And I like for people to either challenge me back on it or to go. Not only that, I read this and none of us think we're right.

[Dr. Josie]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

I think that's the great part. None of us are fighting that. We were absolutely right. But we're all going, what if this is true? It's never been proven false. It may not be true, but we continue to produce these things that weren't true at this time. Forever.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah. You're open to all the possibilities. And so do you like Interstellar the movie?

[Bobby Bones]

It's one. It's one of the greatest movies ever.

[Dr. Josie]

Made of all time.

[Bobby Bones]

It's one of the greatest movies ever made.

[Dr. Josie]

I. I had never seen it. It just had the 10 year or 20 year.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, depending on if you watch the movie. Maybe 500 year.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah. Oh, God. But anyways, it was an IMAX and I just saw it and I lost my mind. It was the coolest movie of all time.

[Bobby Bones]

And that movie was done by a physicist. Like he was the one that, that. So all of the theory inside of it is actual theory. And to me it's crazy that you can get. Let's say we got in a car and it was to go. We were to go 10 light years away and we went 10 light years in a day. And then we came back on Earth.

[Dr. Josie]

A hundred years have passed.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Dr. Josie]

Literally, it's like mind blowing.

[Bobby Bones]

It's like millions of years have gone by, but for us it's only been a couple days. But because we're going. So it's crazy. Yeah.

[Dr. Josie]

It really.

[Bobby Bones]

And I don't even try to understand it, but the only thing I understand is I know nothing.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And so when people are so anti. No way. This. I'm like, I don't really know if I can like jive with just like talking with you.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Because you're not open.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah, you got to be open.

[Bobby Bones]

I have some, some vet questions for you.

[Dr. Josie]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Because I'll talk. I'll talk Simulation theory.

[Dr. Josie]

We are really going down a dark.

[Bobby Bones]

For hours.

[Dr. Josie]

12 hours later.

[Bobby Bones]

Why did you become a veterinarian?

[Dr. Josie]

I became a veterinarian because this is really the tackiest answer of all time in cliche. But I love animals. I grew up in a house that was, I'll say, tumultuous. My parents, my mom is a wonderful mom. She worked a lot. My dad dealt with a lot of addiction. So he was gone a lot. He was in and out of rehab. And it was just like the only Constant I had in my life was my dog. I know it sounds so silly, but I just.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't think it sounds silly at all.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah, I guess, you know, you had your old dog when you were growing up. What was his name?

[Bobby Bones]

Well, depends which one I had Bradley.

[Dr. Josie]

But the one that went to the farm. Yes, okay, Bradley, we'll get to that. But you know, like, when you're young and. And I. Yeah, it was just a crazy childhood and I felt like this is the one thing with unconditional love that I can really count on. So I just. Yeah, I've always loved animals. And then when I turned 15, I got a job at a vet clinic.

[Bobby Bones]

Wow. Doing what? Whatever.

[Dr. Josie]

Cleaning poop?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Dr. Josie]

Feeding the dogs, taking care of them when they woke up from surgery. And then I have never worked anywhere in my entire life except in a vet clinic.

[Bobby Bones]

What's the most rewarding part of the job?

[Dr. Josie]

I am making, well, a. Of course taking care of the animals, but I'm making an impact in people's lives. I mean, people love their animals and they're so close to them. And so I feel like, you know, taking care of their pets is essentially taking care of the people as well. And they're just so grateful most of the time. And that is really rewarding.

[Bobby Bones]

What's the most challenging part about the job?

[Dr. Josie]

The most challenging part? I think people would expect me to say, like, euthanizing or those parts of the jobs, but I don't think that's really it. I think the most challenging part is, I think, like, a lot like when you work with. I think some humans, like, just don't understand and like, probably think you're out for money sometimes or like, and you know, vet bills are really expensive. And I think it's hard. Like I've spent my entire life dedicated to saving animals and then for that, for them to think that can be. That can be challenging.

[Bobby Bones]

How do you feel about vet insurance or pet insurance?

[Dr. Josie]

I think it is the best thing ever.

[Bobby Bones]

You do think you do like it?

[Dr. Josie]

Absolutely. I think everyone should get pet insurance, but you need to get it when your animals are puppies or kittens.

[Bobby Bones]

Why?

[Dr. Josie]

Because then they don't have any pre existing conditions.

[Bobby Bones]

Is it more expensive with pre existing conditions or you just can't get it?

[Dr. Josie]

It's more expensive with pre existing conditions and they won't cover anything that kind of falls under that pre existing condition box.

[Bobby Bones]

By the way, for everybody listening right now, Bradley was my Boston terrier I had when I was a kid, and I love that Dog. I loved that dog. And I didn't have a bedroom growing up, so slept on the couch, and Bradley slept on my chest every night on the couch. And Bradley would have nightmares and bite my nipple, and he was like. Like out of a nightmare. And he wasn't aggressive, except Boston terriers were crazy. And that could be misconstrued as aggressive because it would just jump.

[Dr. Josie]

They're like. They are like little aliens.

[Bobby Bones]

Crazy dog. He was crazy. He was out of his mind.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah. And very gassy dogs.

[Bobby Bones]

He bit somebody, apparently. I think he just jumped on him. And so my stepdad, he had a buddy, had a farm, sent him to the farm. And I was always sad they had to go, but I was. You know what? I thought we were gonna get sued. So I was telling Caitlin the story. This is like 20 years later. And I was telling her the story, and she just kept laughing. And I was like, why are you laughing? They took my dog away. She's like, I'm not laughing that your dog was taken away. I was like, this. And I was like, getting mad because I love that dog. And. And that's when he left. And she was like, do you really think that dog went to a farm? And I was like, what are you talking about? She goes, that dog didn't go to a farm. She goes, that's, like the. The oldest dog cliche ever. And I'm like, well, I'll call Arkansas, Keith. Right from the country. And so Arkansas, Keep this country if you've ever heard him. And I called him and I said, hey, what happened to Bradley? And he said, oh, I had to shoot him because they were going to put him down. And I said, what? And I was. I felt 12 again. And I said. And he goes, oh, yeah. He said, you really thought he went to a farm?

[Dr. Josie]

I said, like, I was a child, but I wasn't.

[Bobby Bones]

I was like a teenager. And I also. Both. Both. I wasn't six, and I'm a man.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Now. And I. I was destroyed inside my guts again for a minute. And Caitlin was teetering on laughing because I'm, like, the biggest idiot, but also feeling bad for me again because it, like, ripped my heart out again. And I was like, oh, my God. He goes, yeah. When he bit whomever, they were going to come take him away and put him down. He said, I didn't want him to do that. He said, and we lived in the country. He's like, so I shot him.

[Dr. Josie]

Send them to the farm.

[Bobby Bones]

So they told me, send them to the farm. I'm Such an idiot.

[Dr. Josie]

No, you're not. That's sad.

[Bobby Bones]

This is like two years ago. I thought this story happened.

[Dr. Josie]

That's very sweet and naive. Oh, that's why you have ibs.

[Bobby Bones]

It. Part of it is stress. The doctor says that big time. He's like, you're so stressed out.

[Dr. Josie]

1 million percent.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, how about, what's the number one mistake pet owners make when it comes to the dog's health? Is it food?

[Dr. Josie]

Yes, 1 million percent. They overfeed, and it's not their fault. They look at the back of the bag, which always tells owners to feed more than they should. Because I really think pet food companies want to sell more dog food.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, yeah, that's a great point.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah, it's.

[Bobby Bones]

I would compare it to expiration dates on our human food where they put the expiration date way earlier. So we either eat it to buy more or it's rotten. That when it's not right. Rotten or spoiled, so we throw it away and buy more.

[Dr. Josie]

Do you eat food after the expiration date?

[Bobby Bones]

I don't really eat a lot of food that has. I drink a lot of orange juice that has expiration date, but I never get to it.

[Dr. Josie]

Ah, you're crushing.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't even look at expiration dates. I can't say, really, yes or no. I had some bread the other day because I only eat sourdough because my stomach's all jacked up, and I ate a piece of bread, and I told Caitlin. I was like, that sourdough bread was a little weird. Like, the. Like, what brand was that? Because it had blue on it.

[Dr. Josie]

Oh, boy. Mold.

[Bobby Bones]

She was like, why did you eat blue? I was like, I don't know. I never had that brand before. Like, I don't know if that was. That's mold.

[Dr. Josie]

And this is also why you have ibs.

[Bobby Bones]

What? Yes. So I. So I don't know the answer to that because obviously I don't look at stuff before I eat it. Yeah. Caitlin probably throws it out if it gets to a point where it smells bad.

[Dr. Josie]

That's fair. The old sniff test, it never goes, never fails. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. I don't sniff anything.

[Dr. Josie]

Oh, no, I. I gotta. I take a big sniff.

[Bobby Bones]

How do you handle the emotional side of the job? And before you answer, I'd like to say something that I think sometimes people think is insensitive of me. When I talk about veterinarians or surgeons or doctors, emergency room doctors, I like for them to be numb. And it's just a normal day whenever everything's going crazy. When it's bad and people, the dog's been hit by a car, I like my doctor to be like, just another day. Because I need them to be thinking, yeah, their normal, rational self. They got into it because they wanted to help people. But whenever it comes time to have to go into action, I still need them to be like, hey, I've done this 100 times. Let me just. Let me just get in. And I care, but. Because if you're not, your heart rate's not elevated, you're actually making decisions your normal way.

[Dr. Josie]

For sure. I think. I think two things can be true. I care so much, but I'm also very calm under pressure. And I also realize that it's not always, you know, when owners are crying and we're euthanizing the pet. Of course, I'm so sad. And yes, maybe a tear will leak out here and there, but also, it's not my. I have to be strong for them. So I think you can care, but also remain calm. And then I think it's really important to take care of your mental health, like, outside of work. So for me, that looks like playing pickleball with Caitlin. And you, even though you beat me every time.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I'm a stud. Except for my ankle, which I need to have X ray.

[Dr. Josie]

Maybe we should redo it now. And then I could win and just, you know, doing things outside of work that, you know, are a release and, you know, an outlet.

[Bobby Bones]

I need you. When you're doing surgery on whatever the animal is, my animal, I need you to be like, I've done this 100 times. I'm just gonna do this the best of my ability. And I've done it right so many times. So here we go. Humdy dumb. Humdy dumb.

[Dr. Josie]

For sure.

[Bobby Bones]

I need that from the people that are doing that, because, again, if your heart rate's not up, you're acting and reacting in a way that is best for both of us, for sure. And that could feel a bit insensitive to say, but I'm talking about that's why emergency room doctors, they're a bit numb to it, and we need them to be a bit numb to it. Yeah, they're not to care.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Not to care, but we need them to be a bit desensitized so they're not acting hastily in any way. That is not good for anyone.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah, totally.

[Bobby Bones]

And it's a. That's a bit of a contradiction.

[Dr. Josie]

It is. I mean, I think it's just like I said, you can care a lot, but you still have to remain calm under pressure, and everyone's different. I have some clients that want their vet to be, you know, crying with. I don't know, everyone's a little bit different on what they want. Maybe not everybody wants that, you know, hardcore. And they want, like a little bit more bedside manner. But I think there's a good balance of finding both.

[Bobby Bones]

What's the biggest mistake new pet owners make when they bring home a pet?

[Dr. Josie]

Not crate training a dog. Big mistake.

[Bobby Bones]

Really?

[Dr. Josie]

As a puppy? Yeah. Yeah, it's a big mistake. A. It sucks because you're putting them in the crate and they're screaming bloody murder like you're torturing them. And your first instinct is, I don't want to do this anymore. But if you don't create them, they. It's really hard to potty train them. They can be destructive. I've seen so many dogs eat socks, hair ties, all the different things.

[Bobby Bones]

So you ever see people say crate training is wrong? Is that a thing?

[Dr. Josie]

I'm sure people say. I'm sure people will comment on this saying that, but if anyone who has spent any long amount of time around a lot of dogs knows you should crate train them. And that doesn't mean you have to create them forever, but just really that, like, first year of life is so important.

[Bobby Bones]

Could. We haven't had a baby yet. Caitlin's not pregnant. But when I say that we've. I have to say that every time.

[Dr. Josie]

I'm sure.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes. Every time she's not pregnant. At some point we're gonna have kids. Right. But with a baby, aren't you kind of crate training a baby when you put in the crib?

[Dr. Josie]

Exactly the exact same.

[Bobby Bones]

Or is that wrong for me to say? It's kind of what it feels like.

[Dr. Josie]

No, it's the exact same. When they go in their crate, it's like, here's a little timeout. Take a breather. You don't need to be parkouring off the walls 24 7. Just like putting a baby and you need to take a nap. I also don't have kids, so what am I saying? But I'm pretty sure it's the same.

[Bobby Bones]

How can someone know if a certain breed or type of pet is right for their lifestyle? Because I would imagine a lot of harm people to get big dogs and the opposite.

[Dr. Josie]

That is a great question you should ask your veterinarian.

[Bobby Bones]

But if you don't have a vet yet because you don't have an animal.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah, well, you should know that, hey, I'm getting a dog. I want to go to a vet, call the clinic and if they're not willing to answer that question for you or help you out, they're probably not the right clinic for you. Or you can DM me on Instagram.

[Bobby Bones]

So you could say, hey, I'm thinking about getting a Great Dane, but I got a one bedroom apartment, third floor.

[Dr. Josie]

Which by the way, Great Danes are amazing apartment dogs. But you wouldn't know.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, I wouldn't think that. I would think it would be way too big.

[Dr. Josie]

And they're perfect for apartment.

[Bobby Bones]

Is it because they don't have a lot of energy? They need to have their couch potatoes. What? Okay, let's say I was getting an Australian shepherd.

[Dr. Josie]

Never ever would I get one in the apartment.

[Bobby Bones]

Because they have a lot of energy.

[Dr. Josie]

So much energy. And, and I think the AKC has where you can go on and like google the different breeds and like what they, what their energy levels are like. That's a good resource to look at.

[Bobby Bones]

What are the most important vaccinations and treatments for a new pet?

[Dr. Josie]

Oh, boy.

[Bobby Bones]

A lot.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean you're going to be doing. It depends on where they come from, but they are. I would have the expectation that they're going to need quite a few vaccines and probably some like heartworm testing, fecal testing. When you first get them. The big one is rabies. People think we don't have. They're like, oh, my pet doesn't go outside. Or they don't do a lot outdoors. Like they don't need the rabies vaccine. But we see rabies all the time here in Tennessee, in fact. Really all the time. In fact, I just had a client the other day who had a bat in her house. The Cat 8, was eating the bat.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, yeah, that feels rabiesy.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah, the bad rabies. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

So did the homeowner also have to get the shots?

[Dr. Josie]

The homeowner also has to get the shots.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, man. Final question about day to day vet life. There have to be a lot of.

[Dr. Josie]

Foods also, by the way. Sorry. Now I'm thinking about this on my rabies tangent. If we get rabies as humans and we don't know it, you die.

[Bobby Bones]

You would die.

[Dr. Josie]

No cure. Okay, cool. It's terrifying.

[Bobby Bones]

That's what's crazy.

[Dr. Josie]

I know it's terrifying.

[Bobby Bones]

And what sucks is you got to get other shots. Well, it may be less now, but in your stomach it's three.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah, three in the stomach.

[Bobby Bones]

Foods that animals aren't supposed to eat. Some. We know the legendary chocolate and dogs.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Is that true? Or is that like an old wives tale?

[Dr. Josie]

It's true. No, it's true. You don't want them to eat like a large amount of chocolate. Like, if Eller was in here right now and we gave her a chocolate chip, she'd be fine. We don't want to give her.

[Bobby Bones]

But if Stanley saw a chocolate chip from 100 miles away, he probably had diarrhea for a month.

[Dr. Josie]

It's over.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Dr. Josie]

One thing that a lot of people don't know is xylitol, which is an artificial sweetener. So that's in some peanut butters. I don't know why, but dogs love chewing gum. It's in a lot of chewing gum. And if they eat xylitol, they get really low blood sugar and can die.

[Bobby Bones]

How do. But are some peanut butters like, okay?

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah, like the more natural ones.

[Bobby Bones]

So you should. Is that so let's say you put something in peanut butter and your dog takes a pillow.

[Dr. Josie]

Mm.

[Bobby Bones]

What if it has xylitol in it?

[Dr. Josie]

If there's like a little bit. It's not the end of the world. But like anything with. I would look. I mean, I definitely would scan the ingredients to look for xylitol. I mean, Ms. Peaches, you know, Dave Fortnoy's dog, she ate a pack of gum and had to be hospitalized for days.

[Bobby Bones]

Wow. What about grapes?

[Dr. Josie]

Grapes are very dangerous. Grapes and raisins. And we really honestly don't know 100. Why. But one dog could eat a handful of grapes and be okay. Another dog can eat one grape and go into like full throttle kidney failure.

[Bobby Bones]

It goes right to the kidneys. Like, the kidneys.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Is what.

[Dr. Josie]

Kidneys shut down. Yep. I know there's really. I'm trying to think. Garlic is not great. Onions aren't great.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, anything else that's like a killer we see.

[Dr. Josie]

I have, I would say since marijuana has been more legalized in certain states and whatnot, we see a lot of dogs that get into edibles. Edibles. They're super duper high. They hospitalize, are so high.

[Bobby Bones]

What if a dog eats an edible or two?

[Dr. Josie]

They're gonna be high. They'll like be.

[Bobby Bones]

Are they gonna die?

[Dr. Josie]

They won't die. They probably just need to take a long nap. They might pee on themselves a little bit. They're like, can't really walk. I did have a dog eat a bag of cocaine.

[Bobby Bones]

Wow. Wait, the cocaine in the bag, they.

[Dr. Josie]

Ate the whole back of.

[Bobby Bones]

Did the. Did the bag stay in. In.

[Dr. Josie]

I don't. I'm not sure.

[Bobby Bones]

Did you have to pull the cocaine bag out.

[Dr. Josie]

He. We found out like kind of. It had been a couple hours after he ingested it and he was already losing his mind.

[Bobby Bones]

The dog was. So the cocaine got in his system then.

[Dr. Josie]

Oh yeah. He had seizures.

[Bobby Bones]

Did the dog die?

[Dr. Josie]

He did not make it.

[Bobby Bones]

Really? Wow.

[Dr. Josie]

Hospitalized for like a week, trying to. But he. It was just. I mean. Yeah, he overdosed.

[Bobby Bones]

The. I guess the problem would be if you're the guy with the cocaine and the dog ate it. Do you take the dog in because he just swallowed your very illegal drug that you have to admit that you had.

[Dr. Josie]

That's the thing. And I. We always tell owners if your pet gets into drugs and I've had dogs get into heroin like some crazy things. Do not. We will not judge you. We are not going to report you unless it's like a neglect case. We just want to save your animal. We will never call the police unless you're neglecting and abusing your dog.

[Bobby Bones]

I can just see and understand someone whose dog has got into something highly going, I don't want to go to jail. So sorry, dog.

[Dr. Josie]

Yep. We'll also have like teenagers. Like I've had a 15 year old boy in there with his mom and dad and they're like, what's wrong with our dog? And I'm like, oh, your dog is high on marijuana. And then the son has to like come clean in front of the parents. Just like, you know, there's always something going on. It's like the dog that ate the underwear.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. And that wasn't her underwear. It was somebody else's underwear.

[Dr. Josie]

And that's how he found out she was cheating on him.

[Bobby Bones]

That. Yeah. Well, that's a bad way to find out.

[Dr. Josie]

Yep.

[Bobby Bones]

But at least he found out.

[Dr. Josie]

Surprise.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. I think that's. I think that's pretty much it.

[Dr. Josie]

I was very impressed with you setting up the. Thank you audio and the microphones.

[Bobby Bones]

I haven't done it in years. So we're hoping this records. I see the wave files so I know something's happening. Like this. I had to do all this for the first 10 years of my career. All. I mean, I had to learn how to do everything because I had to do it all. And then I would have to do different things and expected to be doing different things. A higher level. So it was like, we'll have somebody run audio. We'll have some. So I kind of forgot how to do it all. But we figured it out.

[Dr. Josie]

You press all the buttons. You only pinched your finger once. Hard headphones.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, my God. Hard. I ripped my have skin on my hand.

[Dr. Josie]

I'm like, here I go. I'm gonna have to suture your hand.

[Bobby Bones]

Just like you would do if zombies attacked and we needed a doctor. It would be you.

[Dr. Josie]

When the grid goes down, I'll. I'll be here.

[Bobby Bones]

What kind of ribbon do you have at graduation when you do vet school, do you have a special like. Like animal ribbon or something?

[Dr. Josie]

What do you mean? Like tassels?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Dr. Josie]

You have an oath and a hood, like a full shabon.

[Bobby Bones]

You have to say an oath. Is vet.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah, you say, you know, just like.

[Bobby Bones]

Is it secret, like a handshake or.

[Dr. Josie]

It's not. No, you read it out loud and I couldn't tell you off the top of my head, but it's basically. I vowed to do no harm to any anim.

[Bobby Bones]

You think we'll ever be able to communicate with the animal with some sort of, like, system?

[Dr. Josie]

I hope so. I would love that. I'd love to know what my dogs are thinking, but I don't know. I'll stay open to it. Just like I'm open to dolphins being extraterrestrials.

[Bobby Bones]

I think if the world lasts because also have a theory. This is like the third or eighth time civilizations happened on Earth. Like, it could have been wiped out and we started over. We have no idea.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

If something hits and boom, everybody goes down. It's all microorganisms and it's million billions and billions of years. We have no idea if that's happened, how many times it's happened, how many versions of this have happened. But I think if the world lasts. Yes, absolutely, that'll happen. If we don't have to reset the system and start over for sure.

[Dr. Josie]

Imagine if you did do marijuana.

[Bobby Bones]

If I did, I wish I did.

[Dr. Josie]

Can you imagine?

[Bobby Bones]

And I would like to relax. I'm never relaxed.

[Dr. Josie]

Your brain would be. What would all the theories you could think of then.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. But I feel like I would just be able to, like, take a deep breath and just because I. When I go to the dentist, they have to jack me up with laughing gas.

[Dr. Josie]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

And I don't laugh, but they have to put so much into me because I'm so tightly wound.

[Dr. Josie]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

And they'll go, man, we got you on like 70%. Do you feel it? No. So. But they hit me. And I get so high on laughing gas. Once I hit a point, Earth disappears. And I remember. I'm not kidding. I'm sitting there. Once I'm in space, you're an interstellar for sure. I'm. But I'm very aware that I'm in space.

[Dr. Josie]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm so aware of where I am. I know I'm at the dentist, but I also know that nothing on the entire planet matters but love. And this is what I'm telling.

[Dr. Josie]

This is so beautiful.

[Bobby Bones]

It was the craziest thing because I was so aware of everything that was happening, but I was able to peel away every part of bull crap that doesn't matter. Bull crap that kind of matters. Physical things that I don't need.

[Dr. Josie]

All.

[Bobby Bones]

All of it. And I just remember thinking, dang, now that I don't have all this stimulus everywhere affecting me in different ways. And the only thing that kind of matters is, like, the relationships I have and love. And then once I get. Once I was, like, normal again. I was like, gotta go to work. But I remember thinking that I was like, oh, man. Like, I don't. I wasn't even tripping.

[Dr. Josie]

No. Yeah. You were just so clear.

[Bobby Bones]

It was. I felt like a fresh bean.

[Dr. Josie]

And you weren't laughing.

[Bobby Bones]

No.

[Dr. Josie]

You probably were just laying there. I was drooling out of it. Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

But I knew exactly where I was. I knew exactly what I was doing. I knew exactly what was happening to me as far as. Yes. At the dentist's office. But also, I was in a state that I had never been in before, and I was experiencing something that I've never experienced before. And I had the awareness to go, this is pretty awesome. I also had the awareness to go, well, when this wears off, I'm not going to feel this way anymore.

[Dr. Josie]

How interesting.

[Bobby Bones]

It almost felt like Inception.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Where you're in a dream, but, you know.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I was so whacked out. But I knew everything that was going on, and I knew that what I felt was the truth. But I also knew once I was able to get out of it, it was gonna. It was all gonna come back. But I wanted to remember that. And I kept telling myself, hey, remember this, Remember this? Remember this, because you're gonna get out and all the things that don't matter are going to start mattering again. But I do remember it.

[Dr. Josie]

So when people are like, go to your happy place, Bobby.

[Bobby Bones]

You're like, oh, no.

[Dr. Josie]

Laughing gas at the dentist.

[Bobby Bones]

I wish I'd take a.

[Dr. Josie]

That's where it was.

[Bobby Bones]

I take cases of it.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Or done tubes.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah, yeah. It's. It's like container aerosolized.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you for talking with me. You guys check out Josie's podcast in the vet's office with Dr. Josie. It's really great. One final thing. I was looking at your Instagram. You had a dog that had a swollen on its leg, like a big knot, right?

[Dr. Josie]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

And. And it was a bullet.

[Dr. Josie]

That's my dog.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, well, I know. I mean, it's your dog.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. So tell. Tell that story.

[Dr. Josie]

My husband and I were on vacation in Mexico, and we're walking down the street, and this little street dog comes up to us, and she's so cute. And I was like, well, we'll just keep walking. We'll see what happens. She followed us in and out of a couple stores. The next thing I know is I am at the vet clinic in this tiny little Mexican town getting her rabies vaccine. My husband's in the corner, like, are you kidding me? Like, why are we. We're supposed to be on vacation. And we brought her home, and I went to. Well, a. She did have a little swelling on her back leg, but before that, I. Immediately. As soon as I got her home, I went to spay her.

[Bobby Bones]

You get to bring her home because you're a vet?

[Dr. Josie]

Yes. Now, rules are, like, even more strict, to be honest. Most people wouldn't be able to do that. But I do sign off on, like, international travel for animals. So I went to Kinko's. I wasn't Kinkos. I was like a Mexican Kinko's and printed off some paper, signed her papers, and then we flew home with her, and I went to spay her, and I got into her, and I usually don't do surgery on my own dogs, really. Like, that just kind of crosses a boundary for me. But with her, I'm like, I've only known her two days. Like, it'll be fine. I'm just gonna spay her. And I'm scrubbed in. Get in there. And then I'm like, oh, my God. And I had my nurse call my husband, Cody, and I said, cody, we did not bring home one dog. We brought home 11. She was pregnant with 10 puppies. Yeah. Whoopsie daisies. Yep. And then she had this big old swelling on her back leg, and so I cut into that, and it was a bullet in her back leg.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, my God.

[Dr. Josie]

I know. It's terrible, isn't it?

[Bobby Bones]

I don't get sad when people die in movies or shows if I don't, like, have a long, long, long relationship with them. You kill a dog or an animal, I'm out.

[Dr. Josie]

There's a special place. It makes me cry, especially because animals, they don't Know.

[Bobby Bones]

I know.

[Dr. Josie]

And there's. They are the most pure creatures on the earth. They would never do anything wrong on purpose.

[Bobby Bones]

So the fact that they don't have ethics is the greatest thing, because there is nothing wrong if you don't make what is right. And so animals don't have that. They just live. They don't do anything wrong. They don't do anything right. Because there is nothing wrong.

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And without wrong, there's no right. Without right, there's no wrong, and that doesn't exist. So. So they don't do anything. They're so pure.

[Dr. Josie]

It's pure. It's the perfect word. There's a reason dog backwards is God. I don't know if everyone believes in God and whatever you believe in, but I think it's so.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, I think that mixture of letters, it just happens to be.

[Dr. Josie]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

A fun little thing to say. Awesome. Thank you. And you guys Again, check out Dr. Josie's podcast and also go to her Instagram, which is Dr. Josie V. That.

[Dr. Josie]

That. Yeah, I just posted a picture today. I was here giving Stanley his shot, and I went to the bathroom and Ella was like, I'm coming with you.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. She was right in front of you. And I was like, that's why I thought you were my house, because I called you. I was like, are you at my house?

[Dr. Josie]

Yeah. I was like, no.

[Bobby Bones]

And you're like, no. I was like, oh, okay. Can you be at my house? And you're like, yes. So at Dr. Josie Vet. And you guys check out in the vet's office with Dr. Josie. Josie. Thank you.

[Dr. Josie]

You're welcome.

[Alec Baldwin]

Hey, it's Alec Baldwin. This season on my podcast, here's the thing. I speak with California Governor Gavin Newsom. Is there any chance of increased tax breaks for the movie business?

[Gavin Newsom]

We're going to double it.

[Alec Baldwin]

You are?

[Gavin Newsom]

I proposed that a few months ago, and that was right before the fires. What are the fires? Only reinforce the imperative. And also, working with all our friends, you know the who's who of Hollywood saying it's time to double down on bringing production back to California, particularly this time of recovery and renewal. I said to my legislative friends, I said, there's no budget. I'll veto the budget if we don't get it done. It's going to get done.

[Alec Baldwin]

Listen to here's the thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Eric Andre]

Hey, what's up, y'all? This is Eric Andre. Well, I made a podcast called Bombing about absolutely tanking on stage I tell gnarly stories and I talk to friends about their worst moments of bombing in all sorts of ways. Bombing on stage, bombing in public, bombing in life. Like the time I stole a girl's phone during a set in. She jumped on stage and threw a big haymaker punch to my nose. Listen to Bombing with Eric Andre on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

This is John Cameron Mitchell and my new fiction podcast series, Cancellation island stars Holly Hunter as Karen, a wellness influencer who launches a rehab for the recently canceled in the future we will all be canceled for 15 minutes, but don't worry, we'll take you from broke to woke or your money back. Cancellation Island's revolutionary rehab therapies like bad touch football, anti racism, spin class, and mandatory ayahuasca ceremonies are designed to force the council to confront their worst impulses. But everything starts to fly fall apart when people start disappearing.

[Bobby Bones]

Karen, where have you brought us?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Cancellation island, where a second chance might just be your last. Listen to Cancellation island on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Alec Baldwin]

I'm Mark Seal.

[Mark Seal]

And I'm Nathan King.

[Alec Baldwin]

This is Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli.

[Bobby Bones]

The five families did not want us to shoot that picture.

[Mark Seal]

This podcast is based on my co host Mark Seals best selling book of the same title. Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli features new and archival interviews with Francis Ford Coppola, Robert Evans, James Caan, Talia Shire and many others.

[Alec Baldwin]

Yes, that was a real horse's head.

[Mark Seal]

Listen and subscribe to Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.