WEDS PT 1: We Attempt To Scam The Scammer + The Size Of Bed That Leads To Divorce + Morgan Has Vertigo Again

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Bobby Bones Show – February 12, 2025

Episode Title: WEDS PT 1: We Attempt To Scam The Scammer + The Size Of Bed That Leads To Divorce + Morgan Has Vertigo Again
Host: Bobby Bones
Episode Release Date: February 12, 2025

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1. We Attempt To Scam The Scammer

Overview:
In this segment, Bobby Bones and his team—including Amy, Ray, Lunchbox (Morgan), and Eddie—decide to turn the tables on a potential scammer who reached out to Amy to book her on a fake podcast. Their goal is to expose the scammer by engaging him in a controlled conversation.

Key Points & Discussions:

• Identifying the Scam: Amy received an email from someone claiming to be Kaylin Lowry Lowry of the "Teen Moms Podcast," which the team suspected to be fraudulent. Bobby explains their strategy to bait the scammer:
  "[04:25] Bobby Bones: We only brought it on the air because we thought it was funny that Amy was getting invited on the podcast, not Lunchbox, because he's a massive fan."

• Setting Up the Trap: The team attempts to set up a Zoom meeting with the scammer while taking precautions to avoid potential hacks.
  "[06:00] Bobby Bones: Okay, reply. Okay, this is what you do. You set up one. Now this is what you do. You set up a meeting and say, hey, tried to get in it wouldn't let me. Would love to talk to you."

• Interaction with the Scammer: As the scammer joins the Zoom call, Bobby and the team maintain their composure while subtly exposing his deceitful intentions. The conversation becomes increasingly suspicious, leading to the scammer hanging up abruptly.
  "[14:05] Bobby Bones: He hung up. Well, dang. He said."
  "[15:34] Bobby Bones: You are safe. Don't be scared."

• Outcome and Reflections: The team reflects on the encounter, recognizing the thin line between humor and genuine threat in scams. They emphasize the importance of vigilance and caution when dealing with unsolicited requests online.
  "[16:03] Eddie: I think they would have had our whole."
  "[16:05] Bobby Bones: Okay, Ray, we're gonna end the recording of this. This will all be up on the podcast."

Notable Quotes:

• "[04:55] Morgan: Somebody said it's fine, though, so let's do Amy's."
• "[15:25] Ray: Like, who said, yeah, like, you're safe."

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2. The Size Of Bed That Leads To Divorce

Overview:
Bobby and Amy delve into research suggesting that the size of a bed can influence marital satisfaction and divorce rates. They discuss how physical closeness during sleep impacts emotional bonds between partners.

Key Points & Discussions:

• Research Findings:
  Amy introduces the topic by presenting findings that suggest larger beds, particularly king-sized, may correlate with higher divorce rates due to reduced physical closeness.
  "[25:46] Amy: Yeah, no, it's a king bed apparently is leading to more divorces."

• Hormonal Impact:
  The discussion highlights how close physical proximity during sleep releases hormones associated with love and bonding, contributing to happier relationships.
  "[26:03] Amy: ...small bed allows you to touch each other, which releases hormones that are associated with love."

• Personal Anecdotes:
  Bobby shares his personal challenges with maintaining closeness in a larger bed, humorously describing the chaos it brings to his marriage.
  "[26:30] Bobby Bones: On the surface, I completely understand, and I can see where that makes total sense. It... I throw hands. Not even to fight. I yell at random times..."

• Solutions and Tips:
  The hosts offer practical advice for couples to foster closeness, regardless of bed size, emphasizing intentional "cuddle time" and communication.
  "[28:22] Bobby Bones: It's important to make close time intentional."
  "[25:05] Bobby Bones: Or that doesn't work. You know how you get your, your kids? Like a card with a, like a pre spending limit on it."

Notable Quotes:

• "[26:30] Bobby Bones: On the surface, I completely understand, and I can see where that makes total sense."
• "[28:00] Amy: ...make sure that your tone is good and your intent."

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3. Morgan Has Vertigo Again

Overview:
Morgan (also referred to as Lunchbox) opens up about her ongoing struggle with vertigo, discussing its symptoms, causes, and the impact it has on her daily life.

Key Points & Discussions:

• Understanding Vertigo:
  Morgan explains vertigo as a condition where one's sense of balance is disrupted, causing sensations of spinning or tilting. She compares it to the feeling of being drunk.
  "[30:36] Lunchbox: When you're laying down in bed and your eyes are closed, it feels like you're so intoxicated you can't get the room to stop spinning."

• Causes and Triggers:
  She touches on potential causes, including viral infections like COVID-19, which may have exacerbated her symptoms, alongside other possible factors like hearing loss or vitamin deficiencies.
  "[34:22] Bobby Bones: Did the Vertigo happen before you had Covid so bad you. Because you had Covid how many years ago?"
  "[34:52] Lunchbox: Written on that Covid in Vertigo. There hasn't been yet."

• Managing Vertigo:
  Morgan discusses the maneuvers and therapies prescribed by her physical therapist to reposition the tiny calcium crystals in her inner ear, which are believed to cause vertigo when displaced.
  "[32:45] Lunchbox: So I do have to go get water in my ears to do a test to see if I have any weaknesses that are potentially causing this vertigo spell to keep happening."
  "[32:10] Lunchbox: Yeah, me and Lunchbox, too, so."

• Impact on Daily Life:
  Morgan shares how vertigo affects her routines, including driving and overall mobility, and her cautious approach to prevent relapses.
  "[38:14] Bobby Bones: That's interesting because if you like, tear and ACL and then it heals back..."
  "[38:45] Bobby Bones: Retro reference. No one will get but me."

Notable Quotes:

• "[30:39] Bobby Bones: What version you had, that one you talked about?"
• "[34:15] Bobby Bones: Well, now I have read specific things that. Because Covid reacted differently in everybody."

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Additional Highlights

A. Stories of Celebrity Concert Outbursts

Throughout the episode, Bobby and the team share anecdotes about various celebrities leaving their shows mid-performance due to frustration or technical issues. Examples include Kid Rock, Justin Bieber, Axl Rose, Selena Gomez, and more. These stories blend humor with commentary on the pressures of performing live.

Notable Moments:

• Kid Rock's Stage Tantrum:
  "[49:15] Ray: You know what?"
  "[52:14] Bobby Bones: An artist does not want. Just, let's take the people part of it out."

• Selena Gomez Cutting Her Set Short:
  "[53:08] Bobby Bones: In 2024, during a performance, Shakira walked off stage..."

B. NASA Asteroid Probability Update

Bobby shares an alarming update from NASA regarding an asteroid's increased probability of impacting Earth in 2032, raising concerns about preparedness and potential global consequences.

Key Points:

• Probability Increase:
  "[44:04] Ray: Oh, my goodness."
  "[44:05] Amy: What? Why did it increase?"

• Implications and Speculations:
  The discussion touches on the government's efforts to plan for such events and Bobby's humorous desire to contribute creatively to counter-terrorism scenarios.
  "[47:33] Bobby Bones: ...they bring in the greatest creatives and try to imagine terrorist situations."

C. "Tell Me Something Good" Segment

In this uplifting part of the show, the hosts share positive news stories to balance the more serious topics discussed earlier.

Example Story:

• Heroic Rescue During House Fire:
  "[28:45] Bobby Bones: That's what it's all about."
  "[30:19] Morgan: That was."

Notable Quotes:

• "[57:50] Eddie: Noah Lee is a student at the University of Massachusetts..."
  "[58:44] Bobby Bones: He's getting paid."

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Conclusion

In this episode of The Bobby Bones Show, listeners are treated to a blend of humor, heartfelt discussions, and intriguing stories. The team effectively balances light-hearted segments with meaningful conversations about personal challenges and societal issues. Whether they're turning the tables on scammers, exploring the nuances of marital relationships, or delving into health struggles, Bobby and his crew provide engaging and relatable content for their audience.

Recommended For:
Listeners interested in a mix of comedy, personal anecdotes, practical advice, and entertaining storytelling will find this episode both enjoyable and insightful.

Notable Timestamped Quotes:

• On Scamming:
  "[06:00] Bobby Bones: Okay, reply. Okay, this is what you do..."

• On Bed Sizes:
  "[26:30] Bobby Bones: On the surface, I completely understand..."

• On Vertigo:
  "[30:39] Bobby Bones: What version you had, that one you talked about?"

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End of Summary

Transcript

[Bobby Bones]

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[Lunchbox]

Snakes, zombies, Sharks, Heights. Speaking in public. The list of endless. But while you're clutching your blanket in the dark, wondering if that sound in.

[Bobby Bones]

The hall was actually a footstep, the.

[Lunchbox]

Real danger is in your hand when you're behind the wheel. And while you might think a great white shark is scary, what's really terrifying and even deadly is distracted driving. Eyes forward. Don't drive distracted. Brought to you by NHTSA and the Ad Council.

[Morgan]

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[Bobby Bones]

Our family legacy is this ranch.

[Amy]

My protector. Live my life.

[Morgan]

Listen to the official Yellowstone podcast Now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Eddie]

Hey, it's Alec Baldwin. This past season on my podcast, here's the thing. I spoke with more actors, musicians, policymakers, and so many fascinating people like writer.

[Bobby Bones]

And actor Dan Aykroyd.

[Ray]

I love writing more than anything. You're left alone. You know, you do three hours in.

[Bobby Bones]

The morning, you write three hours in the afternoon.

[Ray]

Go pick up a kid from school.

[Bobby Bones]

And write at night.

[Ray]

And after nine hours, you come out with seven pages and then you're moving on.

[Eddie]

And actor and comedian Jack McBrayer.

[Bobby Bones]

The most important aspect is the collaboration with people that I like, I trust are talented. That has been the most amazing gift to me about this crazy business that we've chosen. Meeting these people who have such diverse talents and you're able to create something together. Listen to.

[Eddie]

Here's the thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts, the Bobby Bone Show.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, so you're listening to this on the podcast. Here's how we're gonna do this. We're gonna play the first segment of the show coming up in a second. And it is, if you've been keeping up, we've been doing a bit where this person tried to scam Amy by booking her on a podcast. We've been trying to scam the scammer. We're actually gonna play the full audio of what happened yesterday while we were trying to scam the scammer. So it's pretty long, but this is us getting on the computer, trying to get the guy in, talking to the guy. You hear it all. And then the segment that you'll hear after that, the. You know, the start of the show will be what started this show today. All this audio you're gonna hear did not air on the radio show, but we had to do it so we could tell the story. But for you, the podcast listener, we want you to hear exactly what happened if you don't know what's been happening. Amy was. I got an email to be booked on Kaylin Lowry Lowery from Teen Moms Podcast. We felt it was a scammer because people try to do this with our show. So we're like, let's just set it up and see what happens. And we kept getting closer and closer, and then finally this happened. Okay, enjoy Bones. Okay, so as we do this, it's 11am Central Time on Tuesday. So this is being recorded right now as we're trying to catch the scammer that's trying to scam Amy. Now, the quick story is, as they're setting all this up, a guy reached out to Amy is like, we want to schedule you on this podcast. It's Kaylin Lowry Lowry from Teen Mom.

[Amy]

I just got a. I just got an email.

[Eddie]

Pregnant and Teen mom, she just got an email.

[Amy]

I just got an email from.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, let me set it up before you give us the update. Hold on. So we only brought it on the air because we thought it was funny that Amy was getting invited on the podcast, not Lunchbox, because he's a massive fan. And then we realized this is one of the. Possibly one of those scam emails. So then we decided we want to try to scam the scammer. So we're trying to set up a meeting with him right now on Zoom. Amy said, I'm happy to do the interview. They went back and forth. He sent a zoom link. We have the zoom link. We're trying to figure out just to put the code in and not the link so we don't get hacked as a show.

[Ray]

But that meeting ID looks weird, man.

[Amy]

No, I feel like it's fine.

[Ray]

It looks different.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, we're two minutes away. Hold on.

[Ray]

I have to stop you for a second here.

[Bobby Bones]

We're two. We're two minutes away from the event happening. Go ahead.

[Ray]

You're going to click on the link in our VMIX computer at our work.

[Amy]

No, no, no.

[Ray]

What are you doing then? No, I'm putting in the meeting ID and the password.

[Amy]

Yeah, you can go into your zoom. So you're not clicking anybody else's link. You enter the ID and the password.

[Ray]

The info is in. Do I click Connect? But the moment he starts taking over your screen, that's part of the scam.

[Bobby Bones]

Our whole company goes down. Do you have to get out immediately?

[Amy]

I really feel like this is an initial meeting they like to do. Gain in my trust so that I will give him my Facebook info. Because remember, guys, Facebook is the goal here, okay?

[Bobby Bones]

We have to do on somebody's computer. I don't want to hear. I don't want to take down the entire Iheart Corporation lunchbox.

[Amy]

Volunteers.

[Ray]

Amy said it's safe, so we'll do it in yours.

[Lunchbox]

Amy.

[Amy]

No, no, no, no.

[Bobby Bones]

It's just a code. Exactly.

[Ray]

Exactly.

[Eddie]

If you enter the a meeting ID and password, you could potentially be hacked. It does not matter about clicking the link, entering the password and id.

[Ray]

Okay, then I'm not doing it.

[Amy]

Okay. They're trying to get into our zoom.

[Ray]

Deleted.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. We need somebody to step up as tribute.

[Morgan]

Somebody said it's fine, though, so let's do Amy's.

[Amy]

I thought it was fine.

[Bobby Bones]

There we go. Morgan, how can they. If we're just putting in a name and password? How can they hack us?

[Lunchbox]

Well, because they're getting in on the back end. They're getting in an HTML. I wouldn't do it on our Read the email.

[Bobby Bones]

So I have an idea. I have an idea. We're going to get around it, but read the email.

[Amy]

As we were talking, an email came in just saying, are you joining in the next five minutes, question mark. Thanks. So they're ready.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, reply. Okay, this is what you do.

[Amy]

I already.

[Bobby Bones]

You set up one. Now this is what you do. You set up a meeting and say, hey, tried to get in it wouldn't let me. Would love to talk to you. I've set up a zoom. Here's the link to get in. You set up a zoom. They come to your zoom. It can't be hacked.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Lunchbox]

Then you have control over it.

[Bobby Bones]

Then you have control over it.

[Eddie]

Okay, we're gonna control the scammer Mike.

[Bobby Bones]

I will say one other thing. Do not allow them to remote access anything. Okay.

[Lunchbox]

That's a feature.

[Amy]

But if I give him a link and he clicks on it, no, that's not.

[Bobby Bones]

He doesn't get remote access. If for some reason he asks for remote access to your computer. Cause he wants to, like, show you something or pull up. That's the part where they can hack you. Okay.

[Amy]

Okay. I created a meeting. I'm going to go invite him.

[Bobby Bones]

Did you reply to the email?

[Amy]

I said, yes, I'm ready, but I'll reply. Okay. I haven't.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm going to set up another camera. Okay, so we're in the middle of it here. We're trying to scam a scammer.

[Amy]

Okay. Logging in and can't.

[Ray]

I'll pull it up on that screen.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Lunchbox]

I tried to access the link, but.

[Bobby Bones]

I can't access the link. It was unsuccessful. I've set up a meeting. Here's the link. Meet me here.

[Amy]

But it was on successful. Further, comma. That's how he talks to me. Further. I set up a link for you.

[Bobby Bones]

Because I really want to do it.

[Amy]

So we can get started.

[Bobby Bones]

Can you Google and see if, like, putting in a code? Like, if you put in a code.

[Amy]

He's in, he's in, he's in, he's in.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, my God.

[Amy]

He's there.

[Ray]

He's there.

[Bobby Bones]

Hold the camera. I'm going.

[Amy]

What do I do? I admit him.

[Bobby Bones]

No, you're good. Admit him. Admit him in the room. Admit him and be like. Yeah, you only want to do it.

[Amy]

Be casual. Hello?

[Caller]

I can hear you now.

[Amy]

Okay. Oh, sorry.

[Caller]

How are you doing today?

[Amy]

I'm good. How are you, John?

[Caller]

I'm fine, thank you. All right, so is this a good time?

[Amy]

Yeah, it's a great time.

[Caller]

Perfect. So are you familiar with Kellen? Like, who they are? Like, did you get a chance to visit the page and watch some of the previous interviews on her Facebook?

[Amy]

Yes, I'm very familiar with her. And, yeah, teen mom, 16 and pregnant. And then obviously, everything she's done since then.

[Bobby Bones]

All right, all right.

[Caller]

So this is going to be a Facebook Live event.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Caller]

So it's gonna be only on Facebook. It's not on Instagram, not on YouTube, not on any other social media platform. We just want a Facebook Live podcast session in which, like, she's looking for some different artists, public figures, musicians, just to be a part of this podcast. So she's looking for Amy Brow. So are you managing her Facebook?

[Amy]

Amy Brown's Facebook. Am I managing it?

[Lunchbox]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes, I am.

[Amy]

I am. I. I am Amy Brown.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Caller]

You're on a video.

[Eddie]

Okay.

[Caller]

I thought, like, you are. Okay, I can see you now.

[Amy]

Yeah. Are you Gonna be like.

[Caller]

It's an audio session.

[Amy]

Oh. Oh, it's. Oh, I thought we were gonna be on video. Like, can we.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, no, no.

[Caller]

This is an audio session. You will have a video session with Kaylin.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Caller]

I'll arrange a meeting with you and her. And this is gonna be, I thought, like, is someone from the management. I'm so sorry about that.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Caller]

I didn't see you on the zone. Okay, so it's gonna be a Facebook Live event. So Facebook have two different kind of live. Facebook have live stream. Facebook have live events, and in both ways, you go live. In Facebook Live event, you can invite people to come and join with you, but in Facebook Live Stream, you cannot do that. You can only do your personal life, individual lives. Okay, so have you done any live event on Facebook before in the last 90 days?

[Amy]

No, I haven't.

[Caller]

Okay, so can you double check on your page? Like, do you have the live event section active on your page? If you have a laptop or a computer in front of you?

[Amy]

So are you saying live event?

[Caller]

A live event.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Caller]

Facebook have two different types of life. Facebook have live streams and live events.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Caller]

Life events policy is if in the last 90 days, you've never done any live on Facebook, you must need to activate your life. Okay, so that's why I'm here, just to see, like, if you have live event section active on the page or not.

[Amy]

Okay, so where do I go to do that?

[Caller]

Go to professional Dashboard.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Caller]

Events. And see. Do you have anything over here?

[Amy]

Events? Yeah, I don't. I'm on. Can you help me? I don't.

[Caller]

Sure. Professional Dashboard.

[Amy]

I meant the professional Dashboard.

[Caller]

Left side. If you can read those options for me one by one. On the left, what you can see.

[Amy]

Okay, wait, so am I the host of the event or. She's the host.

[Caller]

She will be the host. You just need to join as a co host.

[Amy]

Oh, so that's why you need to use my page.

[Bobby Bones]

Yep.

[Amy]

Okay, well, I don't really know what to click on because I thought I clicked on it, but you can share.

[Caller]

The screen and walk you through from your side.

[Amy]

Okay, I don't really know how to share the screen.

[Caller]

Okay, if you have your manager or someone with you, you can just ask them if maybe they know Manager.

[Amy]

Okay, hold on. Let me. Let me get her in here. Morgan.

[Lunchbox]

Yes.

[Amy]

Can you help me?

[Lunchbox]

Yep. Why do you need access to her screen?

[Caller]

I don't need access to her screen.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah, you just.

[Caller]

I just want her to share the screen so I can walk her through. Step by step from her son.

[Morgan]

Yeah.

[Lunchbox]

Sharing the screen is sharing access. Can you. Can you walk me through the steps and I can do this on her side.

[Caller]

You can do that. Go to her Facebook.

[Lunchbox]

Okay.

[Caller]

Go to professional Dashboard.

[Lunchbox]

Yes.

[Caller]

Then on the left side, you will find events.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Caller]

Click events.

[Lunchbox]

Yes. We're in there.

[Caller]

All right, now see on the top what it says?

[Lunchbox]

There's no active posts. There's no active invitation. So wouldn't she be inviting Amy to co host?

[Caller]

No. Do you have a create and join event?

[Amy]

Oh, guys. John, I once did something like this with Angela Yee. For real?

[Bobby Bones]

Amy's falling for it. Guys.

[Eddie]

Sorry.

[Amy]

I see it here. Okay? I. I did.

[Bobby Bones]

She's getting scammed.

[Lunchbox]

We can't let this happen. So is she not creating the event? And Amy, you. You had said earlier that Amy would be co hosting.

[Ray]

The guy said.

[Bobby Bones]

Sorry.

[Caller]

So she just need to join.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah. So there's no invitation for her to join.

[Caller]

Okay. So she must have a join event. Can I share my screen with you for a second? If you want.

[Bobby Bones]

No, no, no.

[Lunchbox]

I don't feel like that's the best idea. But if. If you would be inviting her to co host an event, it would be showing up on this event tab. And there's nothing under here. Otherwise you were just.

[Caller]

Because we didn't invite her at the moment.

[Lunchbox]

Okay, so can you.

[Caller]

She will invite events. You have. Once you have the join event section, then she can be able to, like, join. But for joining an event, you must have two options. Create event and join event. Okay, let me just send you a screenshot.

[Amy]

Oh, John, hold on. Oh, he's gonna send me.

[Bobby Bones]

She's falling for again. Guys, wait, wait.

[Amy]

I love your accent. Where are you from?

[Caller]

I'm from India. My accent is not good.

[Bobby Bones]

What? Where is he now? What?

[Amy]

I love your accent. She.

[Lunchbox]

She has the option to create event or join an event. So can you send the invitation?

[Caller]

I have sent you the screenshot. Can you just open the zoom chat?

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, who are. Who are some of our last names?

[Lunchbox]

I'm not.

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, how long has he worked with Kaylin?

[Caller]

Don't be afraid.

[Amy]

How long. How long have you worked. How long have you worked with Kaylin?

[Caller]

Okay, guys, I think. You think, like, it's a fun chat. It's a fun conversation. It's for fun. Actually, it's not.

[Bobby Bones]

It is fun. We're doing a fun interview.

[Amy]

Oh, I thought we were doing a fun thing with Kaylin. Like, we're fun.

[Caller]

Okay, no worries. Take your time, guys. You're safe. Don't worry. Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

What the.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah.

[Amy]

You're not safe from what?

[Lunchbox]

I. I don't understand what you're trying to send in this screenshot. This. She has access to all of that. All you have to do. If. If you are working with Kaylin, then she needs to send the invite through on the Facebook page. Oh, he's gone. He left.

[Amy]

He hung up. Well, dang. He said. He goes. I said, I love your accent. Where are you from? I'm from India. My accent's not good.

[Lunchbox]

No. My favorite part was, don't be scared.

[Amy]

You are safe.

[Bobby Bones]

You are safe. Don't be scared.

[Eddie]

You guys think this is fun?

[Lunchbox]

Well, Amy had us on video. I had to turn off the video because you could see us laughing.

[Ray]

That was crazy, man.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, then also, I think Amy wanted to get in a couple times. I think she was convinced.

[Amy]

I did think for a minute once I saw the Angela thing, I was like, I forgot I did something like this with Angela and. And Rachel Cruz, Dave Ramsey's daughter. And it was a legit live event. And I thought, okay, that's what they're trying to make people think that this is. And it's not because he hung up. He didn't have time for our antics.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, so there we have it. Well, how did everybody feel?

[Eddie]

Oh, that was awesome.

[Bobby Bones]

He got angrier and angrier.

[Lunchbox]

I feel safe.

[Bobby Bones]

The fact that he yelled, don't be. Or said, don't be scared or, don't be afraid.

[Ray]

Like, who said, yeah, like, you're safe.

[Bobby Bones]

What produce. What producer of any podcast is going to get on with somebody and be like, you're safe.

[Amy]

You are safe.

[Bobby Bones]

Don't be scared.

[Amy]

Yeah, that was really weird, man.

[Ray]

I've never been that far into a scam.

[Amy]

Me neither.

[Ray]

That's very.

[Eddie]

But I do think if we weren't here, Amy would have gone home by a singer.

[Bobby Bones]

She played it with us here. Her eyes lit up whenever she was.

[Eddie]

Like, I've done this with Angela Yee waving his arms at you like, okay, wow.

[Bobby Bones]

So we shall end this. Well, because this can go on.

[Amy]

I'm gonna go ahead and get off.

[Eddie]

I think it was good that we didn't do it through our computer system.

[Ray]

I think it's a great idea. That's good.

[Eddie]

I think they would have had our whole.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, Ray, we're gonna end the recording of this. This will all be up on the podcast. And then.

[Amy]

But we got him to click into our.

[Ray]

But that just means that the link means nothing.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah, he was gonna get it. Getting through your Facebook is what they're.

[Bobby Bones]

They'Re trying to accomplish into your Facebook.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah.

[Amy]

So y'all would have been fine.

[Ray]

Yeah, I guess we go. Yeah, I guess.

[Bobby Bones]

It's still sketchy, but why risk it?

[Amy]

Yeah, no reason for the biscuit.

[Lunchbox]

We've been hacked before. That wasn't fun.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. A lot of my friends, they can't even get their day going without stopping by Starbucks for me. Love Starbucks. Love to get a chai tea. And if I'm ready, if I really need a big day, I'll get that double shot of espresso ready to go. But the great thing now at Starbucks is is that if you go and you decide you want to hang out in Starbucks for a little bit, they're now doing ceramics, like glassware. So if you're going to go, you're going to meet a friend and you order a drink and you say, I want it here. You're going to get it in a mug or a glass. There's also a condiment bar. It's back. Now you can add the finishing touches to your drink so you don't have to go, well, I need a little more of this. I need a little less of this. You can do the perfect amount of cream and sugar. You now have even more reasons to stay a while at Starbucks. So you go to Starbucks anyway. Next time, stay a while at your next Starbucks visit.

[Amy]

The more you listen to your kids, the closer you'll be. So we asked kids, what do you want your parents to hear?

[Bobby Bones]

I feel sometimes that I'm not listened to. I would just want you to listen to me more often and evaluate situations with me and lead me towards success.

[Amy]

Listening is a form of love. Find resources to help you support your kids and their emotional well being at sounded out together.org that's sounded out together.org brought to you by the ad Council and pivotal.

[Morgan]

Hi, I'm Arturo Castro, and I've been lucky enough to do stuff like Broad City and narcos and Roadhouse and so many commercials about back pain. And now I'm starting a podcast because, honestly, guys, I don't feel the space is crowded enough. Get ready for Greatest Escapes, a new comedy podcast about the wildest true escape stories in history. Each week I'll be sitting down with some of the most hilarious actors and writers and comedians to tell them a buck wild tale from across history and time. People like Ed Helms, Diane Guerrero, Joseph Gordon Levitt and Zoe Chao.

[Bobby Bones]

Titanic, Charles Manson, Alcatraz, Assata Shakur, the sketchy guy named Steve.

[Morgan]

It's giving funny true crime I love.

[Bobby Bones]

Storytelling and I love you, so I can't wait.

[Morgan]

Listen and subscribe to Greatest escapes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is John Cameron Mitchell and my new fiction podcast series, Cancellation island stars Holly Hunter as Karen, a wellness influencer who launches a rehab for the recently canceled. In the future, we will all be canceled for 15 minutes, but don't worry, we'll take you from broke to woke or your money back. Cancellation Island's revolutionary rehab therapies, like bad touch football, anti racism, spin class, and mandatory ayahuasca ceremonies are designed to force the council to confront their worst impulses. But everything starts to fall apart when people start disappearing. Karen, where have you brought us Cancellation island, where a second chance might just be your last. Listen to Cancellation island on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Bobby Bones]

It's the Anonymous Inbox. Anonymous Inbox. There's a question to be had. Send it into the mail. Hello, Bobby Bones. My wife has developed a serious online shopping habit and it's starting to take a toll on our finances and our home. Every day there are multiple packages arriving, clothes and gadgets, home decor, things we don't need. She insists she's finding great deals, but the credit card statements tell a different story. I've tried talking to her about budgeting and cutting back. She brushes it off or gets defensive or does it temporarily. It is causing real life tension in her marriage. I do not know how to get through to her. How do I help her see the problem without making things worse? Sign married to a shopaholic. Amy, I'll go to you so you can explain because I think this would be good for guys to hear. How to communicate, mostly a dumb guys to a woman doesn't have to be this, but how would you communicate this?

[Amy]

Well, I think for anybody, nobody wants to be, you know, pointed out, like, you're doing this wrong, you're doing this wrong and you go through all the things. It's more of coming alongside her and showing her like, this is how it's impacting us as a family and how can I support you in this? Because things need to be different. And if it's truly like she has a shopping addiction problem, then this could be something deeper. But if it's just that, like, she can't understand the finances of your home and she's choosing to ignore it, like that can get really frustrating. But you don't want to put her on the defense. So that way that that's why it's good to not just come out of the gate pointing fingers and angry. And you need to be calm when you approach the subject and have like numbers with you and maybe, you know, like things written down that's like helpful for her to see.

[Bobby Bones]

Or that doesn't work. You know how you get your, your kids? Like a card with a, like a pre spending limit on it.

[Amy]

You're not going to give your wife a pre. What?

[Bobby Bones]

That's interesting.

[Amy]

You think you're going to walk in and be like, hey, babe.

[Bobby Bones]

No, no, no, I'm not.

[Amy]

I'll get you a preloaded card.

[Bobby Bones]

Not an issue at our house. So I'm saying if your thing, if your healthy way of communication doesn't work and the dynamic is not proving to be successful, she's like, I want to buy the stuff. You don't approach her with a pre spending card. You slip it into her purse and take the other one away when she's not looking.

[Amy]

She's going to know it's like a, if it's a prepaid card, it says $100.

[Bobby Bones]

She'll know, but she'll also know the other one's not in there. Your way is healthy and I hope that works. But what if she's just belligerent like, no, I want to buy this stuff. Okay, well, we're gonna shut the card off. I would think somebody would need to do that to me if I got to that point. Like, you gotta shut me off.

[Amy]

I mean, there's. Shut me off sort of an intervention that needs to take place.

[Bobby Bones]

Pre, 13 year old kids, pre spending card. Here you go. And here's your flip phone that only has the ability to have four apps. Like we go full on.

[Amy]

Yeah. I just think that you avoid pointing fingers and make it like, I agree and make sure that your tone is good and your intent. You can't go after you've looked at the bill and you're all fired up and freaking out. Like, big picture is very helpful. Like, sometimes I didn't understand the big picture because I wasn't logging in and looking at the bank account because I avoided it. Like, I didn't have a huge problem. But inside my marriage, right when Ben and I got married, I was in my young 20s. I didn't want anything to do with finances. So I gave him that responsibility. I was like, I don't, I don't want to pay bills. I don't want to know anything. And it got to the point where by the time our marriage was Ending. I didn't even know how to log into our bank account, and I don't recommend that for anybody, but I just avoided it. So I didn't know. So therefore, she. If she's not paying attention, then you need to.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, she's paying attention.

[Amy]

She may not be, because if it's.

[Bobby Bones]

If it's causing tension, I think there's some attention being paid to it. And I think you're right. I think your. Your way is the first way to do it, and the second way to do it. I think the healthy third way to do it is because if you put anybody on their heels in a situation, you're not going to get the results that you want because they're going to be acting so defensive that they're not thinking. They'll be reacting, not responding. I think the really healthy third option is to go, okay, we both. Because this is a problem. You can put a little bit of it on you, even if it's not true. Let's say. Let's say I'm the guy in me in this relationship, and you're the girl and you're spending. What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna come to you after I've tried the other ways and be like, okay, look, we both are spending too much stuff on stuff. I'm spending money on golf, you're spending on this. Here's our both. We both need new limits, and I'm gonna make it a both issue so she doesn't feel like it's just her and by me taking part of that pressure, I think the goal then is accomplished that way. Like, we both now have a limit of $50 every pay period that we can buy stuff from Amazon unless it's a household essential. But with we. But we both have to do better. That's how to do it. Then you fake it and switch the card in the middle of the night.

[Amy]

No, no. I like that, though. No team mindset. I think that that's very helpful. And then maybe if, you know, prepaid card, maybe you know of a goal that she has, like, or a trip she wants to take or something.

[Bobby Bones]

Cut it in half. Cut the card in half with scissors.

[Amy]

Oh, my gosh. No, I'm coming back.

[Bobby Bones]

Put it on social media off of.

[Amy]

What you were just saying. I like what you said. The team mindset. And then thinking about the big picture and, like, when you have something to work towards, like in what you were saying, if you add on to it, like, hey, if we both adjust our spending, then maybe we could you know, take that dream trip we wanted. Or we can have some savings and we can retire sooner.

[Bobby Bones]

Then you switch the card out. All right, cool. All right, thank you, everybody. Bones, over to Amy all the time.

[Morgan]

Amy all the time.

[Bobby Bones]

Amy all the time. Time.

[Amy]

So, according to research, there is a particular size of bed that could lead to more divorces.

[Bobby Bones]

Twin bed. There's not a jack. There's not a queen. There's not a jack bed. Right. There's a fool.

[Amy]

Yeah, it goes twin, full, queen, king, California king.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, I was just doing card sizes, to be honest with you. Joker, jack, queen, king. Okay, so full. Okay, full.

[Amy]

Yeah, no, it's a king bed apparently is leading to more divorces. And the main reason for this is lack of closeness. So when you fight during the daytime, the extra space at night can be harmful for your marriage. And a small bed allows you to touch each other, which releases hormones that are associated with love. So couples who spent the night less than one inch apart are happier in their relationship. If there's a 30 inch gap, you're in trouble.

[Bobby Bones]

On the surface, I completely understand, and I can see where that makes total sense. It does not make sense in our marriage because I kick, I throw, I. I throw hands. Not even to fight. I yell at random times, talk. If I talk, all of a sudden, let's talk like this. It's a whole circus. When. If I sleep, it's a circus. And if we were that close, I don't think she would ever sleep. So I think, yes. I think on the surface, that makes a lot of sense to me. But I think there are situations too, where I, I. There's just so much energy that's happening with me. I've bruised her before. Like, I've kicked her in the thigh hard.

[Amy]

Wow.

[Bobby Bones]

When I've fallen asleep.

[Ray]

Dang, dude.

[Bobby Bones]

Dude. I know.

[Amy]

Yeah. I mean, not far. Maybe she needs to go to another room.

[Bobby Bones]

We need, like, an Alaskan king. We need even bigger. A bigger state. So. Yes. But, yeah, I have all kinds of sleep issues. You guys. How big is your bed?

[Ray]

I have a king. And I love the space. I. Dude, I need the space. If we're ever, like, in the middle together, I'm always like, roll over. I just don't. Yeah.

[Amy]

Do you start out close?

[Bobby Bones]

No, we'll start out close, but my wife knows much, like, when you see them throw those frag grenades, they go boom. Your ears ring. You gotta throw them and get away. So basically, that's how we sleep. I'm the frag grenade. And when it's Time for me to, like, fall asleep. She'll get away because she knows it's about to go boom. So I like to be hugged or no hugged.

[Amy]

Spooned.

[Bobby Bones]

Little spoon. I like to be little spoon. So. But I've changed that to I like to be hugged. And so. But she knows I'll start to twitch, and I've elbowed her twitching before. Like, right when I fall asleep, I twitch, and I've elbowed her before. Twitching. Yeah. I'm Dennis Rodman in the lane.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Okay. Well, just, you know, throwing it out there. Even if you do have a king bed, just try to make close time intentional.

[Bobby Bones]

The craziest way to wake myself up, talking. It's not even waking myself up, yelling, because that. Now I know what that is, because I'll go, oh, God, leave that. I'm used to. But if I'm like. And I wake up, and I'm like, who's talking? And Caitlin go, you are. You're talking.

[Ray]

That's crazy.

[Bobby Bones]

It's crazy. It's time for the good news with Bobby. Tell me something good. It was a house. It was on fire in Holly Springs, Mississippi. Luckily, Genevieve Busby, who was a former Memphis firefighter and a trauma nurse, was nearby. Sell the house, drives up to it. She's like, man, that's a big fire. So she sees another. Another guy down the street and like, waves him down. So calls 911 and her and Cody Watts. Now, Cody's dad was a retired firefighter. They broke into the house that was on fire. Like, had to kick it in. There was a woman asleep in the room. Pulled her to safety. She was wheelchair bound, so they had to put her in, get her wheelchair out of there. She couldn't get out of there anyway, even if she had been up. So firefighters arrived. Everybody's good. The woman did not have homeowners insurance, but the Red Cross is helping her with that. She did not suffer any smoke inhalation thanks to those people being there. But even more than smoke inhalation, she didn't die because I don't think she would have got out also. Man, how brave to kick in a door for any reason, even if a house is on fire. I'm like, oh, and I'm not gonna get in trouble for this.

[Ray]

You better make sure.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm gonna go and check all the windows. Like, hello. I'm gonna hit the ring doorbell. The blaze is coming out of the top. And I'm like, anybody in there? But no, they. They kicked the door in and got in. Luckily, she knew what she was doing and that somebody nearby just jumped in to help as well, or they wouldn't have been able to get her out of there, save lives. That's from News Nation. Now that is what it's all about.

[Morgan]

That was. Tell me something good.

[Bobby Bones]

Morgan's wearing sunglasses in studio, but I don't feel like they're sunglasses.

[Lunchbox]

No, they're like light blocker glasses.

[Bobby Bones]

There was an Instagram story because we were gone all last week, but you were, like, in a neck brace, crawling on the ground. What happened to you?

[Lunchbox]

I got vertigo again.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, you have to explain vertigo. I've never had it.

[Lunchbox]

So essentially, vertigo, you could kind of take it two different ways. When you're standing, it's like you're on a tilt, a whirl. Everything around you is constantly moving. Like your entire equilibrium is gone.

[Bobby Bones]

Is that what it feels like to be drunk?

[Ray]

Kind of, yeah. You think you're walking straight, but you're really not.

[Bobby Bones]

Does it feel. Does it feel like you're drunk?

[Lunchbox]

Yeah. So when you're laying down. So that's when you're standing, you're like on a tilt, a roll. When you're laying down in bed and your eyes are closed, it feels like you're so intoxicated you can't get the room to stop spinning.

[Bobby Bones]

With vertigo.

[Lunchbox]

With vertigo and drunk.

[Bobby Bones]

Is that.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

What if you got drunk while having vertigo?

[Lunchbox]

Oh, that I. I could not imagine.

[Bobby Bones]

What if I balance it out?

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

What if I had the doctor even tried that? Wow. Okay. So why did you get it? And is that the version you had, that one you talked about?

[Lunchbox]

Yes. So I had. I had it last year. I had an episode of this last year for the first time ever. We don't know what causes it. We have no idea what brings on vertigo. There's a possibility that it could be a virus that comes in and sweeps through. Basically, these, like, very equilibrium crystals that are in the back of your head are what keep you in gravity, essentially. And a virus can come through and knock those out. And when that happens, you lose all of your balance, your stability, everything that you have. And that's the only thing that we truly know actually causes vertigo. Unless you have severe migraines, irrit, like hearing loss, there's a few different things, but we don't know really, truly what.

[Bobby Bones]

Brings it on you and the mouse in your pocket or is there like some bigger, like, the medical community.

[Lunchbox]

Medical community.

[Bobby Bones]

God. Like you and lunchbox. Okay, go ahead.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah, me and Lunchbox, too, so. And we also don't know, like, when it will happen again, how often it'll happen again. I could get it multiple times over. I could get it never again.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you feel sick when you get it?

[Lunchbox]

Oh, miserable. I can't leave my bed without either falling out of my bed or wanting to go vomit.

[Bobby Bones]

So we were, I think, working in Mobile, Alabama, and they were like, hey, Morgan's sick. She's got vertigo. And again, I don't really know what that was. And if anybody's sick, I'm just like, good, hope she gets better. But then I look at your Instagram story, and it was like you were dying.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah, I couldn't move from my bed for about 48 hours without.

[Bobby Bones]

How does it get better? Do you do anything or is it just time?

[Lunchbox]

No. So I. Last time I figured out, it took me a long time. But I see a specialist. She's a physical therapist who specializes in vestibular. And she comes and does these what they call maneuvers. And there's, like, the LI maneuver, the Epley maneuver, there's the Somme maneuver. They have all different kinds. And essentially, she's flipping my body around to get these crystals to be back in place where they're supposed to.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, is it crystals? Like, I can see your future crystal. Are they real crystals or is it science?

[Lunchbox]

Real crystals?

[Bobby Bones]

You know how I am about astrology.

[Lunchbox]

I know how you feel about this. Legit. Everybody has them, okay. But they're so, so small, you can't even see them on a microscope, which is why it's so hard to study vertigo and understand what's happening. But they're, like, made of calcium. Little crystals. There's essentially in the back of your brain, the back of your head over here is a brick wall. It's what she calls the rocky wall. And these crystals sit in it, and it kind of acts as a lever for your body. And whenever something happens to you and these crystals get knocked out, they go into your ear canals, and your ear canals and your. This level are all connected. So she has to do these maneuvers to get them, those crystals out of my ear canals and back into the rocky wall where they're supposed to be.

[Bobby Bones]

Now, from a lesson we learned on this show recently, could they use a version of osmosis to balance all that out? Fill your ear with water. It goes into your head crystals. Go balance it out.

[Lunchbox]

So I do have to go get water in my ears to do a test to see if I have any weaknesses that are potentially causing this vertigo spell to keep happening. So you're not entirely Wrong.

[Bobby Bones]

What do you think's wrong with you?

[Lunchbox]

I don't know. It's possible I have hearing loss from having headphones on my ears for so many years. It's possible that I have a vitamin D deficiency or that's. Those are the only two possible things. And if those things are normal.

[Ray]

Yeah. What about the virus?

[Bobby Bones]

What about.

[Lunchbox]

I wasn't sick.

[Bobby Bones]

Can you taste?

[Lunchbox]

No, I can taste. I can't smell.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. Can you smell?

[Lunchbox]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

Did the Vertigo happen before you had Covid so bad you. Because you had Covid how many years ago? It's been almost four years and you still can't smell?

[Lunchbox]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Did it happen after you had Covid?

[Lunchbox]

Yes. And I have. You know, if you want to walk me down the conspiracy theory that I have, I do think the COVID that I had brought this on.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, now I have read specific things that. Because Covid reacted differently in everybody. Some people did nothing. Some people. There were a lot of dormant viruses or things in our body that never come in that are there. Just chilling, because I know people who got Covid, and all of a sudden they had. What's kissing disease? Mono. They got mono really bad because mono was in their body. It lied dormant forever. But Covid was like, wake up, mono. And all of a sudden they got mono like crazy. Unless that was a great line. They were, like, making out with somebody in the closet. But a lot of academic papers on Covid have shown that in some ways it affected people in no ways. And in other ways, we have so many viruses in us that never, never come up to say hello, that that's what it did. It basically rang the doorbell. And our body, at times, reacts to that. I don't think that's conspiracy. I mean, I think there's literal papers.

[Lunchbox]

Written on that Covid in Vertigo. There hasn't been yet. That's why I say, like, in 20 years, I think we'll have an idea that this had some impact on it. But, I mean, I'm already dealing with a long Covid symptom, and it's all happening neurologically for me, which is the lack of smell. I've lost a lot of my memory. So I think there is something going on that's all connected up here that I will figure out one day. I just am not lucky to.

[Bobby Bones]

It's crazy. It's been four years and you still can't smell. Yeah, like, we gotta call Mr. Guinness. Because for the record, I know people that lost their smell, lost their taste, but they've all gotten it back. Unless Cause we can't prove you can't smell. Unless this is the greatest bit, Morgan, and you are just keeping it. Cause we can't prove if you can smell or not. We can't smell for you.

[Amy]

We know she put that sour candy, which would normally, like, derail people. And she's like, I don't really. I don't really. It's not impacting my sinuses at all.

[Ray]

And the sniffing salt.

[Bobby Bones]

Unless she's committed, I don't know. Lunchbox.

[Eddie]

There are viral infections that can cause vertigo. Tell me if you have any of these.

[Bobby Bones]

Flu. No, Now. She goes, yes, I actually have it now. Yeah.

[Eddie]

The herpes virus.

[Lunchbox]

No.

[Amy]

Okay. But sometimes these viruses lie dormant. They're asymptomatic. Like, you may have it, but you don't know.

[Bobby Bones]

You also can have herpes, a different kind of herpes. That he's, like, looking at her, going, like. There's like.

[Eddie]

And COVID 19.

[Bobby Bones]

It does say COVID 19.

[Eddie]

It says Covid. It brings on long COVID Patients are seeing vertigo or dizziness. Very common.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah, it's like I said, it's being studies studied. They just don't have the full medical.

[Amy]

Can you donate yourself to.

[Bobby Bones]

If you have cooties, it says you.

[Amy]

Could get vertigo to a trial. Can she go volunteer?

[Lunchbox]

Yeah. We are talking about me becoming a long Covid volunteer to figure out what's going on.

[Eddie]

But the good news is you drove to work, right?

[Lunchbox]

Well, I'm good now.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm like, yeah, she didn't come that day. She stayed home.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah, I'm operating, like, 80% now.

[Ray]

But she's roaming the halls, though, like, grabbing the walls.

[Eddie]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, greatest bit ever. She may have us, but I'm in. You're committed to it. Andy Kaufmann's style. Like, you're there. You're not coming out of it.

[Lunchbox]

I wish. I wish this was a bit.

[Amy]

I worry about the driving because she can't, like, turn to, like, if she needs to make a quick decision and look left, look right. Like, what? She can't. She's.

[Bobby Bones]

Easy answer. She got all those ducks in the way, so she's never really been able to see because all the ducks. So it's the same thing.

[Amy]

Okay, guys.

[Lunchbox]

Okay. I wasn't driving when it was really horrible. Right now I'm super cautious because I'm in what they call the vertigo hangover after getting the maneuvers done. You're in a vertigo hangover. And so I'm just more super cautious. But technically, if I had to move my head, I could I just don't want to because I. I'm scared my body's relearning. How to body again.

[Bobby Bones]

That's interesting because if you like, tear and ACL and then it heals back, it takes a long time for you to actually put pressure on it to cut because you're nervous that it will. You have your brains, like, be. Be super careful and do not put pressure. Do not use that. That muscle because it could tear again, even like, subconsciously.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah. And that's what my brain. My head doesn't want to move because it thinks it's going to end up on a tilt to roll again. So I'm. I'm 80% better and enough to drive and function, but I don't want to. I'm very scared to. I don't want this to happen again.

[Bobby Bones]

Retro reference. No one will get but me. The Brady Bunch episode where they drop the briefcase in the courtroom to make the guy turn his head when he's in a neck brace.

[Amy]

Oh, wow.

[Ray]

I kind of remember that.

[Bobby Bones]

Kind of amazing. That's how they end the case because they drop it and he goes, huh? And then it's like the judge is like, case dismissed.

[Ray]

Next.

[Bobby Bones]

That's a story.

[Ray]

That's funny.

[Amy]

So can I tell you something I've been thinking about?

[Bobby Bones]

Nah. All right, we're out of here. Of course you can. Of course.

[Amy]

Well, you brought up neck brace. And does anybody ever sleep in a neck brace?

[Bobby Bones]

No. Okay. Hey, Ray, will you hit Amy all the time? Because I gotta feel. Just. Just three, two, one.

[Amy]

Well, I have really nothing more to this than that. I've not used a pillow the last couple of nights because I saw a video talking about how I should be laying flat on my back with my neck flat because I've been having, like, different issues with my neck getting stuck. But the problem is I'm laying flat with no pillow. But I'll wake up like this. Still flat in my bed. So if I sleep with a neck brace, that may hold me in place. Do people. Do they do this?

[Lunchbox]

Don't sleep with a neck brace. It is so painful. I've had to do it the past few days.

[Amy]

I mean, I just.

[Bobby Bones]

I sleep in stirrups.

[Amy]

I haven't even thought about this enough to even Google it.

[Bobby Bones]

All right, That's Amy all the time. There we go. I gotta call it, Ray. I gotta call it.

[Amy]

What?

[Bobby Bones]

Peter. Peter, get us out of here. Peter.

[Ray]

Bones.

[Bobby Bones]

A lot of my friends, they can't even get their day going without stopping by Starbucks for me. Love Starbucks. Love to get a chai tea. And if I'm ready, if I really need a big day, I'll get that double shot of espresso ready to go. But the great thing now at Starbucks is, is that if you go and you decide you want to hang out in Starbucks for a little bit, they're now doing ceramics, like glassware. So if you're going to go, you're going to meet a friend and you order a drink and you say, I want it here. You're going to get it in a mug or a glass. There's also a condiment bar. It's back. Now you can add the finishing touches to your drink so you don't have to go, well, I need a little more of this. I need a little less of this. You can do the perfect amount of cream and sugar. You now have even more reasons to stay a while at Starbucks. So you go to Starbucks anyway. Next time, stay a while at your next Starbucks visit.

[Amy]

The more you listen to your kids, the closer you'll be. So we asked kids, what do you want your parents to hear?

[Bobby Bones]

I feel sometimes that I'm not listened to. I would just want you to listen to me more often and evaluate situations with me and lead me towards success.

[Amy]

Listening is a form of love. Find resources to help you support your kids and their emotional well being@soundedout together.org that's sounditouttogether.org brought to you by the Ad Council and Pivotal.

[Morgan]

Hi, I'm Arturo Castro and I've been lucky enough to do stuff like Broad City and narcos and Roadhouse and so many commercials about back pain. And now I'm starting a podcast because honestly guys, I don't feel the space is crowded enough. Get ready for Greatest Escapes, a new comedy podcast about the wildest true escape stories in history. Each week I'll be sitting down with some of the most hilarious actors and writers and comedians to tell them a buck wild tale from across history and time. People like Ed Helms, Diane Guerrero, Joseph Gordon Levitt and Zoe Chow.

[Bobby Bones]

Titanic, Charles Manson, Alcatraz, Assata Shakur, the sketchy guy named Steve.

[Morgan]

It's giving funny true crime.

[Bobby Bones]

I love storytelling and I love you, so I can't wait.

[Morgan]

Listen and subscribe to Greatest escapes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. This is John Cameron Mitchell and my new fiction podcast series Cancellation island stars Holly Hunter as Karen, a wellness influencer who launches a rehab for the recent in the future, we will all be canceled for 15 minutes. But don't worry, we'll take you from broke to woke or your money back. Cancellation Island's revolutionary rehab therapies, like bad touch football, anti racism spin class, and mandatory ayahuasca ceremonies are designed to force the council to confront their worst impulses. But everything starts to fall apart when people start disappearing.

[Bobby Bones]

Karen, where have you brought us?

[Morgan]

Cancellation island, where a second chance might just be your last. Listen to Cancellation island on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Bobby Bones]

I told you guys early last week that NASA officials said there was basically a 1.6% chance that in 2032 this asteroid was going to hit Earth. And 1.6. We were like, wow, that's. It doesn't seem like a lot, but 1 in 100 to hit Earth and cause massive destruction, you don't want to have two decks of cards, and if you pick the wrong card, you die. Like, look at it that way. And so we talked about it, but in our heads, we're like 1%. What are the odds? Okay, new story. NASA officials now report the asteroid striking Earth is up to 2.4%.

[Ray]

Oh, my goodness.

[Amy]

What? Why did it increase?

[Bobby Bones]

Well, they don't really have control and they can't really direct the asteroid. So based on its movement, it's like if you watch, if you get on the ESPN app and during a game, 57 chance of winning and somebody does a little score, it's like 63 chance of winning. I did it. It moved.

[Amy]

It moved.

[Bobby Bones]

It's basically that part of the.

[Ray]

Oh, my goodness. But that asteroid's moving that much. Like, that's a whole 1%.

[Amy]

That seems like a lot in the.

[Bobby Bones]

Do we even have a deck of cards here? Or the. Remember the 100 sided dice? If we had any of that, it's the same. So it went from basically 1.6 to a 2.4% chance. That equates up to a 1 in 42 chance of impact. Now there is a 97.6% chance that the asteroid will miss, but the fact that it has gone up by 4% is crazy. And is this them just slow rolling us into 50, 50 in five years? And then all of a sudden I close my eyes just to see you sleeping.

[Ray]

Armageddon, yeah.

[Amy]

Who will be our are? Armageddon. Who will be those people for us? The oil driller gonna save us.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm gonna go ahead and go. No, not me. I want to take myself out of that.

[Amy]

No, no. Someone famous. Like, that's rude.

[Bobby Bones]

That's very rude. Because you know what? I've done a lot in my life, and you know what? I feel like I'm mildly known in regional areas of the country, and she just hit me with the nail, you.

[Amy]

Know what I mean? I'm talking like Arnold Schwarzenegger or he'll.

[Bobby Bones]

Be dead by then.

[Amy]

Jeff Bezos.

[Bobby Bones]

You think that that dude will be another planet? He'll be on a spaceship on another planet if that's happening. And all the normal people like us will just be here, set to suffer. We have 100 sided die. Okay, so if the number is 32 that it lands on, that means we're gonna suffer a terrible death. All right, roll it, please. And the number is 50.

[Ray]

We survived, but it's 2%. Right, so don't you get two numbers.

[Bobby Bones]

It's a good point. Let's do it again.

[Ray]

So we need two numbers.

[Bobby Bones]

What was number? 30?

[Ray]

33, I think you said. Right.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, sure, whatever. Let's give it a run. Here it is. Roll it. Four.

[Ray]

Oh, we're good. We're safe.

[Bobby Bones]

We do this every day leading up to it. But that is scary, right?

[Ray]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Amy]

But when you do the little game you just did, you wanna do the deck of cards?

[Bobby Bones]

I got deck cards.

[Amy]

Makes me feel better.

[Bobby Bones]

Pick any card, Amy. Okay, suit and card. Pick it.

[Amy]

Okay. King of hearts.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, king of hearts. Here we go. One card. 10 of hearts. That thing just missed us.

[Eddie]

Oh, my gosh.

[Bobby Bones]

Holy.

[Ray]

Too close.

[Amy]

Who shuffled that random shuffle generator?

[Bobby Bones]

Did.

[Ray]

Hey, if it really came too close, though, do you think they could send oil?

[Bobby Bones]

Crazy, we almost had that one.

[Ray]

What, you think they'd really do Armageddon and send, like, oil people to try to break it up?

[Bobby Bones]

Do you know, all seriousness, what I say they. What the government group does is they will bring in the greatest creatives and try to imagine terrorist situations. Like, how would you do it? Writers, artists, script writers, booker, anything. They bring them all in. They go, how would you create a crazy terror plan? And then they have everybody try to create every possible scenario they can and then go, could we stop it? And if we can't, let's figure it out. Because other people are trying to actually figure them out in real time and in real life. That's a. I would love to get that call. Like, they think I'm so smart. They bring me in to go be like, all right, think of some cool scenarios.

[Ray]

You're pretty creative.

[Bobby Bones]

I like to put myself up for that.

[Ray]

They're like, sir, we don't need jokes.

[Bobby Bones]

I want to put myself up for this, wherever this magic room is. Because this does happen. Wherever this is where they bring in people to try to think of creative scenarios so they can figure out if they can stop them already or what they need to do to stop them. I would like to be a part of that.

[Amy]

So what. What would be an example of something you'd bring to the table?

[Bobby Bones]

I don't know. I haven't thought about it much.

[Ray]

And don't give that away now.

[Amy]

What?

[Bobby Bones]

That's a good point. Because I would use it. Yeah, I like, put myself over that.

[Amy]

I thought you could just like say something, you know, off the cuff out there.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't want to waste it, really. They may want to use it for another country. For us to do. To another country.

[Amy]

Okay. Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I don't want to use that. Okay, let's play the. You do one more card though. Just for fun.

[Ray]

Just one more.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. And you pick another card. Any question?

[Amy]

What happens if we die? Do we just.

[Bobby Bones]

It sucks. Yeah. I just yell Peter. And then Ray hits the button. We get out of here.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Four of spades.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, four spades. Go ahead. And the card is three clubs.

[Amy]

Boom.

[Ray]

Still too close.

[Bobby Bones]

One number off.

[Amy]

It's not close.

[Bobby Bones]

It's the same color suit. We live another day. Kid Rock got up at a bar and he starts to do left a good job in the city. And he's getting the people to clap. And they're clapping a little bit at the beginning, but Kid Rock demands extra good clapping. And they stop clapping in the middle of the song. But that's fine. Like you can't. You kind of stop clapping. It's hard to keep up the clap. And everybody's drunk and he gets so mad. They don't clap. He was just like, screw this and walks off. Do a tantrum on stage. Have you heard it? Have you seen it? Okay, hit it.

[Ray]

You know what?

[Amy]

Wow.

[Ray]

He left.

[Bobby Bones]

He had already be in a bad mood. Cuz the people were clapping fine. And it ain't even about the people clapping. Like it's just sing the song and he's like, out of here. It was kind of cool because I think it was like Bon Jovi's bar in Nashville.

[Ray]

Yeah. And I think the keyboard. Bon Jovi's keyboard is. That was his show.

[Bobby Bones]

Big news. Didn't know Bon Jovi had a bar in Nashville. Live here.

[Ray]

Oh, yeah.

[Amy]

Oh yeah. Morgan went to it.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah.

[Amy]

That was where our.

[Lunchbox]

Our work Christmas party.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Breaking news didn't go.

[Amy]

I just remember Morgan talking about it because maybe were you saying, like, his name.

[Bobby Bones]

I played it.

[Lunchbox]

Jbj, because that's what it's called. You guys are giving me a hard time because it was John Bon Jovi.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm imagining there's some other bad stuff happening in his life, and that just happened to manifest itself right there on that stage. Because that's a kind of weak reason to walk off. Because I thought they were also clapping. Okay. And everybody's drunk. It's like one in the morning. So there you go. I pulled up some other ones. Justin Bieber. During a concert in Norway, Bieber became frustrated when fans spilled water on the stage, and then he was trying to clean it up, and they kept, like, screaming, and he's like, guys, never mind. I'm done. I'm not doing the show. And just walks off stage. Dang. Went all the way to Norway and didn't do the show.

[Ray]

That's terrible.

[Bobby Bones]

That's crazy. You're in Kid Rock at Jon Bon Jovi's. It's a long flight home. JV Day. Axl Rose, 1991, at a Guns n Roses concert in St. Louis, Axl Rose was upset about a fan taking pictures. What's funny is now everybody has a phone out all the time.

[Ray]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I imagine one person with, like, a big Polaroid.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And he's like, you in the jungle, Stop taking pictures, baby. And they didn't. Did they didn't stop. So security didn't make him stop taking pictures. So he jumps in the crowd to fight the guy and got on the stage and was like, you know what? Screw it. I'm out. They rioted. Fans and rioted because Axl Rose, again, these guys must have been having bad days leading up to this.

[Ray]

I feel like Axl Rose had multiple, though. There's like, a period there where, like.

[Bobby Bones]

Every time I turn on that day, baby. Elvis Presley. During a performance in Ohio, Presley made offensive remarks to his backup singer, Kathy Westmoreland, causing her and other members of the Sweet Inspirations to walk off stage and just leave. Elvis.

[Amy]

Oh, wow.

[Ray]

There was a rumor that they were, like, together.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That would make sense.

[Amy]

Maybe they had a little fight, huh?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, There. There are so. Dude, there's like, a hundred of these.

[Ray]

That's crazy.

[Bobby Bones]

I think if you're an artist and you tour, you get tired. Or it's substance related or it's both.

[Amy]

What about Hank Williams Jr. Walking off of our show? Our show.

[Ray]

You can count that. Well, he didn't walk off, though. He almost did.

[Bobby Bones]

No, he left. He was like, can I leave. I'm like, yeah, you should have leave. But it wasn't mean. He wanted to smoke his cigar. He was mad because he couldn't smoke his cigar. And then we wouldn't clap. He was like, rolling. Wouldn't clap. Anyone ever been to a show where you saw an artist freak out at all?

[Ray]

Oh, yeah, I've been to one.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, Morgan, go first.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah. So it was at the Cotillion in Wichita with Casey Musgraves. The crowd got super. Like, they weren't interacting with her. And it's a relatively smaller venue, so you can definitely feel the energy in there. And they were not kind of like this Kid Rock moment. They were not performing in the way that she wanted them to. And then they also got a little rowdy and were, like, kind of super drunk. So she kind of yelled at the.

[Bobby Bones]

Crowd so they wouldn't interact. But then when they interacted, it was in a way that she didn't like because it was interrupting the show.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah. So, like, people were enjoying it, but they were just moving along. It was a Casey Musgrave show, but then you had, like, a really rowdy crowd too, that were super drunk, and she got really mad when they were drunk.

[Bobby Bones]

It's tough. Casey shows are awesome, but it's not the show to be drunk and rowdy yet.

[Lunchbox]

Yeah. And it was an awkward situation all around. Like, I still had fun, and it didn't, like, stop me from going to see her other times, but it was definitely awkward.

[Bobby Bones]

In 2024, during a performance, Shakira walked off stage because you guys may remember this, but audience members were recording under her dress.

[Amy]

Oh, my.

[Bobby Bones]

They were, like, reaching up with the phone. That was a semi recent 1. 2016, Kanye at a concert in Sacramento. He went on a 30 minute rant about various topics, including politics. The music industry walked off stage. Audience was stunned. They rioted.

[Ray]

Oh, boy. 30 minutes of that, dude, I know I would have left.

[Bobby Bones]

What was yours?

[Ray]

Pearl Jam. Yeah, I saw Pearl Jam, and I think they were having some kind of, like, instrument issue or something, because Eddie Vedder, the lead singer, kept looking back at the drums. And then finally he just said, stop, stop it, stop it. And he walked off stage and about, like. I don't know, he's gone for about a minute, minute and a half, and then he comes back out and says, I'm sorry. I just wanted everything to be perfect.

[Bobby Bones]

He came back and apologized.

[Ray]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

2013, Selena Gomez @ the Los Angeles Jingle Ball. Selena Gomez cut her set short due to sound malfunctions. Like, Eddie, you're talking about there. Frustrated, she told the audience they'd be followed by cooler artists in her. Anyway, dropped the mic and walked off.

[Amy]

Wait, hold on. Like, if she left, cooler artists were coming on stage.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Oh.

[Bobby Bones]

Because she was young and she wasn't. There were sound issues and she probably wasn't getting the love from the crowd because she wasn't super famous then. So she's like, don't worry about it. Anyway, cooler artists are coming up.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

During a show in Brazil, Courtney Love had a ranting outburst after spotting a concert goer holding up a picture of her late husband, Kurt Cobain. That could also be interpreted, though, as love. Like, that's her husband who died. Nirvana's lead singer, but he was. Person was holding it up. She insulted the audience, including offensive remarks about gay people, which is odd. Out of nowhere before leaving the stage.

[Ray]

Because of the picture of Kirk.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't know. But the whole insulting gay people, that's out of nowhere, huh? Here's one more. Lil Wayne. While on a Tour with Blink 182, Lil Wayne walked off stage just 20 minutes into a set, reportedly upset about the small crowd size and feeling that most attendees were there for Blink 182. He said, Y'all are whack. Y'all are whack. I'm out of here.

[Ray]

That's cool.

[Bobby Bones]

And walked off. Nothing from you, Amy?

[Amy]

No. I've not had any drama at a show that I couldn't.

[Ray]

George Straight. Never threw a tantrum, Never kicked a speaker.

[Amy]

Not that. Nope. Not that I can recall.

[Bobby Bones]

Lunchbox anything? No.

[Eddie]

I don't go to enough concerts, I guess, because I haven't seen anybody get upset.

[Bobby Bones]

You ever go to a show and feel bad for an artist because they're obviously very sick and just fighting through it. I saw Amos Lee, one of my favorite artists, could barely talk. I felt so bad for him at the rhyme, and he was like. And he told the audience, like, I'll give you a refund or we can do the show. It was kind of funny because he kind of let the crowd pick, and the crowd sang with him through the whole show. So a little disappointing in that it wasn't like a real. Aimlessly. Amy. Know the song Sweet Pea, Apple of my eye. Don't know when. I don't know why. You're the only reason.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. So that's one of his songs. Got it famously. And so. But I do think we had more fun than it not happening at all. And I was like, that's. That was kind Of a baller move. He fought through it. He kept bringing people up to sing some of his songs with him, too.

[Amy]

Oh, that's fun.

[Bobby Bones]

And he tried the whole time. He tried. Ever see somebody sick fight through a show?

[Lunchbox]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Who'd you have?

[Lunchbox]

Luke Bryan. It was his Bridgestone show last year. He was super sick, and he kept talking throughout the thing saying, hey, guys, I'm really sorry. But he was fighting it. He was coughing, and he still, like, brought a lot of energy for someone who was sick. I could not have managed what he did.

[Bobby Bones]

An artist does not want. Just, let's take the people part of it out. If they cancel the show, that's money they're not getting. But also, they don't want to do a show so bad. So there's a fine line like they want to be there and do the show because that's. That's their job. That's their art. They love to do it. And then also they don't get paid yet. They still have to pay everybody. So, like Parker McCollum, when he had to, he went out and did two songs and had to leave sick, and he was like, well, to come back or refund. There's no way he wanted to do that. He didn't. If he was going out there, he was gonna fight through it. So Derrick's done that a couple times too. The. The trick is, is to get steroid shots and then hope to God in like four hours it kicks in. Because I've been sick before. I was in Iowa once, thought I was dying, could barely talk. Sore throat. Was doing stand up 30 minutes before the show. Oh, my God, we're feeling great. And then the next day, you feel like garbage again. You just got to fight through it.

[Amy]

Oh, you mean you got the steroid shot and it kicked in?

[Bobby Bones]

Dude, I'm talking about you.

[Amy]

Just in time.

[Bobby Bones]

It's the greatest. You feel. It feels awesome. But then the next day, it's. You feel even worse than you did the day before. It just gets you through, and you can lift a lot of weight. That's pretty jagged.

[Ray]

Steroids.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Doing bench press. It's time for the good news with lunchbox. Tell me something good.

[Eddie]

Noah Lee is a student at the University of Massachusetts, and he got to partake in the $10,000 challenge at a basketball game. You got to make a layup, a free throw, a three pointer, and then a half court shot within 25 seconds. You win $10,000.

[Bobby Bones]

Almost impossible to do.

[Eddie]

Yeah, you got to make every. I mean, if you miss one Shot. It's over. He makes the layup, makes the free throw, drains the three pointer, gets the rebound, runs the mid court. He lets it fly.

[Caller]

It's good. It's good.

[Eddie]

He wins $10,000. Insurance company reviews it. Oh, your toes were over the line at mid court. You don't get the 10k. No, you don't get the 10k. We're not paying it. Everybody's outraged. And the ad at UMass, his name is Ryan Bamford, said, screw the insurance company, we'll pay him the $10,000. No, Lee is getting paid.

[Bobby Bones]

He's getting paid.

[Ray]

That's awesome.

[Bobby Bones]

I was surprised they just didn't pay to begin with. It wasn't like, it's a million dollars and it's a big insurance company. Because I saw the video when he just hit it. It's almost impossible to do that because you can't miss one of them. And he hits all of them. There was a thing with the Bulls back in the day where somebody could win like a million bucks. You guys have seen the documentary on that where the guy in the middle of a Bulls game throws it from 3/4 Court, nails it. Even Michael Jordan comes out and jumps on him like, oh, my gosh. In the contract, it was. You couldn't have played like pro basketball ever. And he, like played in some weird semi pro league for like a year. 10, 10 years. It was nothing. And it was like such a small line that when you sign it right before you play the game. And then they didn't give them the money.

[Amy]

Oh, my gosh, that's terrible.

[Bobby Bones]

Not really sure how it ended. I think somebody ended up getting him some money somehow.

[Amy]

Maybe Michael Jordan.

[Eddie]

No, not that.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I don't know. He might have. Yeah, I can probably find the update on this one. But the same type of thing, like, they will. They'll eagle eye to see if you stepped on a line there.

[Ray]

That's cool. The university stepped up, though. Like, we'll pay.

[Bobby Bones]

That's good. All right. There you go. That's what it's all about.

[Morgan]

That was. Tell me something good.

[Bobby Bones]

And that is the end of the first half of the podcast. That is the end of the first half of the podcast. That is the end of the first half of the podcast.

[Eddie]

That is the end of the first.

[Bobby Bones]

Half of the podcast. You can go to podcast two or you can wait till podcast two comes out. A lot of my friends, they can't even get their day going without stopping by Starbucks. But the great thing now at Starbucks is, is that if you Go and you decide you want to hang out in Starbucks for a little bit. They're now doing ceramics, like glassware. So if you're gonna go, you're gonna meet a friend and you order a drink and you say, I want it here, you're gonna get it in a mug or a glass. So you go to Starbucks anyway. Next time, stay a while at your next Starbucks visit.

[Amy]

The more you listen to your kids, the closer you'll be. So we asked kids, what do you want your parents to hear?

[Bobby Bones]

I feel sometimes that I'm not listened to. I would just want you to listen to me more often and evaluate situations with me and lead me towards success.

[Amy]

Listening is a form of love. Find resources to help you support your kids and their emotional well [e-mail] that's sounditouttogether.org brought to you by the ad.

[Morgan]

Council and pivotal Calling all Yellowstone fans.

[Bobby Bones]

Let'S go to work.

[Morgan]

Join Bobby Bones on the official Yellowstone podcast for exclusive cast interviews, behind the scenes insights and a deep dive into the themes that have made Yellowstone a cultural phenomenon.

[Bobby Bones]

Our family legacy is this ranch and.

[Amy]

I protect of my life.

[Morgan]

Listen to the official Yellowstone podcast Now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Eddie]

Hey, it's Alec Baldwin. This past season on my podcast, here's the thing. I spoke with more actors, musicians, policymakers and so many other fascinating people like writer and actor Dan Aykroyd.

[Ray]

I love writing more than anything. You're left alone. You know, you do three hours in.

[Bobby Bones]

The morning, you write three hours in the afternoon.

[Ray]

Go pick up a kid from school.

[Bobby Bones]

And write at night and after nine.

[Ray]

Hours you come out with seven pages.

[Bobby Bones]

And then you're moving on.

[Eddie]

And actor and comedian Jack McBrayer.

[Bobby Bones]

The most important aspect is the collaboration with people that I like, I trust are talented. That has been the most amazing gift to me about this crazy business that we've chosen. Meeting these people who have such diverse talents and you're able to create something together.

[Eddie]

Listen to here's the thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.