Aggressive Clown Rap w/Sal Vulcano

Summary

The Bonfire with Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly

Episode: Aggressive Clown Rap w/ Sal Vulcano
Date: September 4, 2025
Guest: Sal Vulcano (Impractical Jokers)

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Episode Overview

This episode sees Big Jay Oakerson joined by comedian and Impractical Jokers star Sal Vulcano, sitting in for Robert Kelly. The pair dive into Oakerson’s recent experiences at the Gathering of the Juggalos, shining a hilarious and often irreverent light on juggalo culture, the enduring strangeness and specificity of “clown rap,” and the comedy of subculture conventions. They touch on Sal’s friendships with Insane Clown Posse’s Shaggy 2 Dope, reminisce about ‘90s comedy characters, deconstruct the tropes of stand-up comedy in film/TV, and candidly riff about the ups and downs of cruise ship comedy. The episode is fast, chaotic, and full of playful, teasing banter—with tons of insider references and sharp takes on pop culture and comedy.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Encountering Juggalo Culture

• [00:51–02:15] Jay recounts his experiences at the Gathering of the Juggalos, particularly how defining Juggalos by “smell” says more than physical traits:
  • “A juggalo smells like three days of sweat, glitter and dirt, aggressive clown rap and frivolous butthole fingering.” (Big Jay, 00:56)
• Both agree you can recognize a juggalo’s presence—“You can walk into an elevator and be like, a juggalo's been in here.” (Sal, 01:20)
• Sal reveals he’s good friends with Shaggy 2 Dope from ICP and shares how the duo travels: “He comes with, you know, lady. And he hasn't brought kids.” (Sal, 02:43)

2. Riffing on Clown Rap & Comedy Tropes

• [02:34–04:14] The pair riff, mocking clown tropes and inventing “clown rap lyrics”:
  • “If you smell my flower, whoops, it’s water. Shake my hands.” (Jay, 02:59)
  • “Electric shocks.” (Sal, 03:09)
• Jay notes clown/character rap’s longevity compared to aging nu metal themes, e.g. Papa Roach still sings about teenage angst at 60, “Your grandpapa roach.” (Jay, 04:28)

3. Nu Metal’s Shelf Life vs. Juggalo Agelessness

• [04:14–05:35] Jay and Sal joke about how angsty bands from the ‘90s have to repeat adolescent lyrics well into middle age.
  • “If you use your money properly, your children shouldn't have these feelings or understand your music whatsoever.” (Jay, 05:00)
• They playfully imagine what’s “ironic” about musicians whose kids connect with their dad’s music about pain (“I tend to find that I'm a little angsty...when my stay at home mother is making me a delicious meal with a crust.” (Jay, 05:19)).

4. Inside the Gathering: The Attendees & Rituals

• [06:13–08:27] Jay describes the diversity of festivalgoers, from surreptitious professionals (“She said she was an accountant...especially when they're half naked, and tell that they are an aggressive cutter.” (Jay, 06:14–06:38)) to “hippies there for the drugs.”
• The clean-up crew deals with everything from turkey legs to whole squids thrown on stage: “I'm not exaggerating when I say a squid. A full turkey leg.” (Jay, 07:36)
• Sal is fascinated by the “rite of passage” for those who have attended all 25 years: “If you were 20 years old in 2000...I'm sure there were 45 year olds going that have been to every one of them.” (Sal, 09:04)

5. Drug Culture & ‘Nitrous Mafia’ at Concerts

• [09:31–13:23] Open drug use is rampant at the Gathering, with a permissive “barrier system” more important than the actual drugs.
  • “You know there's people, like, booting up heroin into their girlfriend's toes right there. And he's like, yeah, but you're in front of the barrier.” (Jay, 09:46)
• Sal and Jay delve into the “nitrous mafia” running the balloon trade at concerts: “There's been violence with people protecting...who's going to be the people selling the nos.” (Jay, 12:59)
• Sal tells a hilarious story about accidentally inhaling nitrous at a Flaming Lips concert, thinking it's helium:
  • “This is how much I don't know about this stuff. I thought it was for helium...I sucked it in, and my voice is not changing.” (Sal, 11:52)

6. Nitrous Misadventures & Comedy Connections

• [14:05–15:12] Jay reflects on drug experiences never quite living up to the hype, “I'm always looking left and right at people enjoying drugs more than me...I'm just like, that's kind. Hey guys. It's kind of fun, right?” (Jay, 14:24)
• Brief digression into ‘90s stand-up: Jay references Craig Shoemaker’s “Love Master” persona and its eventual film adaptation:
  • “One of the regular, like, Evening of the Improv stuff…he always did a character called the Love Master.” (Jay, 15:12)

7. Why Do All Stand-Up Movies Suck?

• [16:14–19:50]
• Jay and Sal lampoon stand-up in movies and TV—the endless parade of cliché “struggling comedian” stories.
  • “Who care. We've explored all of the ups and downs and woes of it. We did it. It's a shitty business.” (Jay, 16:41)
  • “My family doesn't understand the struggle and how I need to do this.” (Jay, 17:05)
  • “They needed movies. So they take chances on movie theater movies…The Love Master is one such film…where, yeah, his alter ego is what's making him popular with the ladies.” (Jay, 15:54)
• They mock the overused seller backdrops, including the “stickman telling jokes.”

8. Deconstructing Comedy Clichés and Industry Realities

• [33:01–36:16]
• The conversation shifts to hack material, the comfort (and creative danger) of “killing,” and advice from Patrice O’Neal:
  • “How many people stop at learning how to kill? And that's not really the tell. Obviously you want to kill, but it's like, can you kill and then have everybody else who can kill see you uniquely…” (Jay quoting Patrice, 34:54)
• Reflect on comedians who “never leave the cruise ship circuit.”

9. Cruise Ship Comedy: Fantasy vs. Reality

• [36:17–39:27]
• Both riff on the grim realities of cruise ship comedy:
  • “It’s very funny to watch. It's like, dude, three meals a day at the old shitty buffet. Like, I can't get laid if I wanted to because if I go to someone's room, I'm in trouble…” (Jay, 36:41)
• Sal explains comics are forbidden to fraternize/hook up with guests, and the extreme penalties if caught.
• Compare it to their experiences on the Impractical Jokers Cruise, where the rules are far looser:
  • “On the Impractical Jokers Cruise...you see, fuck anybody you want. And there was a couple of loose wild sluts on the...Cruise. Believe it or not.” (Jay, 39:15)

10. Hilarious Anecdote: Hookups & ‘Local Rap Dancing’

• [39:27–41:23] Jay shares a story from the cruise about setting up a hookup, but having to feign interest in the woman’s “local hip hop music video dancing” career:
  • “You have to be nice to this girl and let her think you give a fuck about her stupid local rap dancing and tell her she's really good at it.” (Jay, 40:44)
  • “You have to lay foundation. It's quick dry cement. But you gotta lay it.” (Sal, 40:45)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On describing a juggalo:

  • “A juggalo smells like three days of sweat, glitter and dirt, aggressive clown rap and frivolous butthole fingering.”
    – Big Jay Oakerson, 00:56

• On the endurance of clown rap:

  • “Because it's written from that thing. There is no exploration on it as long as they...And also think about wearing makeup. It’s like Slipknot with the masks. You're ageless.”
    – Big Jay Oakerson, 04:00

• On nu metal bands aging:

  • “Your grandpapa roach, they Are.”
    – Big Jay Oakerson, 04:28

• On the reality of cruise ship comedy:

  • “It's like, dude, three meals a day at the old shitty buffet. I can't get laid if I wanted to because if I go to someone's room, I'm in trouble.”
    – Big Jay Oakerson, 36:41

• On hookup etiquette:

  • “This is what hooking up is. You have to be nice to this girl and let her think you give a fuck about her stupid local rap dancing and tell her she's really good at it.”
    – Big Jay Oakerson, 40:44

• On the business side of comedy:

  • “How many people stop at learning how to kill? And that's not really the tell...Can you kill and then have everybody else who can kill see you uniquely?”
    – Patrice O’Neal via Big Jay, 34:54

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Important Segments & Timestamps

• [00:51] “What is a juggalo?” — kicking off the Gathering discussion
• [03:19] Inventing clown rap lyrics
• [04:14–05:35] Satire on nu metal and aging rock stars
• [06:14] The Miss Jugglette accountant—professional diversity at juggalos
• [09:31–10:13] Open drug use at the Gathering
• [11:49] Sal’s nitrous/helium confusion story (“I thought it was for helium...”)
• [16:41] Why stand-up comedy movies are played out
• [34:54] Patrice O’Neal wisdom about comedians “learning to kill”
• [36:41] Realities of cruise ship comedy
• [39:27] How Jay and Christine had to sit through a dancer’s videos in a hookup scenario
• [42:36] Sal teases his forthcoming podcast “Minouche”

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Closing Details & Plugs

• Sal Vulcano Live:
  • Chicago Theatre, Nov 14
  • Beacon Theatre NYC, Dec 27
  • Tickets: salvolcanocomedy.com
• New Podcast:
  • “Minouche”—10-episode run, fall release on Sal’s YouTube
• Impractical Jokers:
  • Season 12 airing on TBS, Thursdays at 10pm

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Tone & Vibe

Throughout the episode, the tone is irreverent, playful, and brimming with inside jokes and self-aware asides about the comedy industry. Jay and Sal invite the audience into their world of stand-up, with all its absurdities and harsh realities, while affectionately lampooning the scene and themselves. Their chemistry ensures every tangent lands as a bit, making even the obscure asides feel accessible and hilarious for fans and newcomers alike.

Transcript

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[Big Jay Oakerson]

And now the bonfire with Big J Okerson and Robert Kelly. What is a juggalo? After three days with the Juggalos, I can describe it better by smell than I can by physical traits of a juggalo. A juggalo smells like three days of sweat, glitter and dirt, aggressive clown rap and frivolous butthole fingering. I didn't see Hansani anywhere.

[Sal Vulcano]

You can walk into an elevator and be like, a juggalo's been in here.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, without a doubt. I trust there's juggalos at this hotel. Put your microphone in front of you. Oh, yeah. It's the Bonfire faction talk series XM1 03. I'm Big J Okerson. The great Robert Kelly is off. Where is he? He's in San Fran today, right? Or he's off. I know he's going New Hampshire. He's going to spend a lot of time in New Hampshire. He needs more time in the tiny house, which is a crazy concept to me. Hey, I'm gonna take my family to a tiny house. Hey, we're gonna be really on top of each other. But he loves it up there sitting in Bobby's chair. Today we are very, very blessed to have from the impractical jokers and friend of the show and friend for life, the great Sal Volcano joins us.

[Sal Vulcano]

Thank you so much, all of you. Thank you, buddy. I'm so excited to have you.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I you guys should consider impractical joking. At the gathering of the Juggalos, they'll say all the stuff you want them to say and they're too up to recognize you guys. Yeah, I probably Shaggy.

[Sal Vulcano]

I'm pals with Shaggy. He comes out and sees us every time we. I or the guys pass through anywhere near Michigan or whatever.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, really? Yeah. Does he come with, like, kids or anything?

[Sal Vulcano]

He comes with, you know, lady. And he hasn't brought kids. I don't.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He's married for sure.

[Sal Vulcano]

Yeah. I don't know. I didn't want to. I don't know if he's.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't know if you. The clowns.

[Sal Vulcano]

Try and keep it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No, no, no.

[Sal Vulcano]

Tight to the vest.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Shaggy, the man is mad.

[Sal Vulcano]

I don't know if they try and keep it tight to the flower lapel.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Squirting lapel. We were writing clown rap lyrics all weekend. If you smell my flower, whoops, it's water. Shake my hands.

[Sal Vulcano]

Electric shocks.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Flipping dicky horn honk noses. It's.

[Sal Vulcano]

All the old practical joy. Oops, that nickel is glued to banana appeal.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Who left that there?

[Sal Vulcano]

Nailed through my finger. Real blood.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

These people love clown rap. They're into it. I'm into it. When you're there, you can't not be into it.

[Sal Vulcano]

Yeah, I feel like, like I said, the.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

The.

[Sal Vulcano]

The group, it's like a banging group. Like, it's like a banging. Like, you know, it's like you.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You immediately are thump heavy.

[Sal Vulcano]

Thump heavy is what I was trying to say.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Sal Vulcano]

But then I just, you know, I just. I do wonder what the expiration on it. Because it all feels like it sounds like that.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Well, I gotta tell you, because it's written in such, like, character, like stuff. Murder, clowns.

[Sal Vulcano]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Because it's written from that thing. There is no exploration on it as long as they. Again. And also think about wearing makeup. It's like Slipknot with the masks. You're ageless.

[Sal Vulcano]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You can't really tell.

[Sal Vulcano]

Well, I don't mean for them expiration. I mean, just listening.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Well, like, because it's a character, though, and it's kind of silly. Like, what has a much bigger expiration. We should talk about this on Skanks not long ago, which I love, making me laugh, is angsty nu metal of the early 90s. When it meant something to you.

[Sal Vulcano]

Right?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And now the fact that I said Papa Roach has to get on stage every night and go, I know my mother loves me, but does my daddy even care? And you're like, buddy, no one cares if you're mommy or. You shouldn't care if your dad or your mommy care anymore. You're fucking 60. Your grandpapa roach, they Are. Yeah. Disturbed. Has to do the song about his mommy being mean to him.

[Sal Vulcano]

You have to stay that forever at.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Least when you do this song.

[Sal Vulcano]

And if there's a market, like, if those guys, if there's a market for them when they're in their, like, late 60s, they have to sing those songs.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And if you use your money properly, your children shouldn't have these feelings or understand your music whatsoever. Right. Right. You're singing these songs of angst and your kids are fucking, like, wearing, you know, Gucci robes.

[Sal Vulcano]

Yeah. You failed. If your children are a fan of your own music.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. What would they feel about it?

[Sal Vulcano]

Right.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Like, God, this really hits me in the soul. He goes, I feel like this a lot of times in private school. This hits me when I come home and my stay at home mother is making me a delicious meal with a crust. I tend to find that I'm a little angsty.

[Sal Vulcano]

That would be so, so ironically hysterical if, like, they just weren't connecting. And the music that spoke to the kid was his father's music. It's like, you don't understand.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Listen to this. I'm certain that. Yeah. He goes, I don't want you to grow up to be some pussy dude. How are you gonna learn how to play the guitar if I just hang around and, well, father, you want to just sit around and parent you? Well, the whole time I'm curious. I would have been curious to find out at this festival. Like, there's gotta be someone in. There is like, I'm in med school. I'm a lawyer currently. Yeah. There was one of the girls.

[Sal Vulcano]

There's thousands, right?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Thousands, Thousands. There was one of the girls that was so hot in the Miss Jugglette contest and she said she was an accountant. And after the contest, I was like, so you're an account? And she was like, what? I was like, she was like thinking.

[Sal Vulcano]

Of the first professional job. She's like, I'm a surgeon.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Well, I thought it was strange that she said she was an accountant because what I noticed before, look, you can't just look at somebody and see that they're an accountant. You can look at somebody, especially when they're half naked, and tell that they are an aggressive cutter. A self mutilated. Now she was that. And I was like, is this like your punishment for getting numbers wrong? You said I was getting a thousand back. I owe 400. I've done you wrong. It was.

[Sal Vulcano]

I debited when I should have credited.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I thought you could write off newspapers, idiot. There's got to Be someone there with a good job. But God bless the people that have to go up there and. And sweep slash like zamboni off the stage because they go up there to do it. And then God forbid anybody pleasantly acknowledges, like, hey, how about a round of applause for the guys who come up here and get rid of, you know, you guys are throwing. And I'm not exaggerating when I say a squid. A full turkey leg.

[Sal Vulcano]

Oh, wow.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

At the stage.

[Sal Vulcano]

Why squid? A squid you have to buy.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Not a squid. It was an octopus. Yeah. They traveled with octopus.

[Sal Vulcano]

No. Is that a thing?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't know.

[Sal Vulcano]

Is it dead? Is it just what would be become food? I stopped eating octopus.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Don't know. Did you?

[Sal Vulcano]

Yeah. Did you see it? Too smart.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I really. That's not even. I've never tried octopus. Well, maybe once I didn't do it because in my mind it's gonna like sucker to the inside of my mouth. The suckers are on it.

[Sal Vulcano]

When you look at it, they're on it. I didn't eat it for my whole life. And then like maybe like years ago, just a few years back, I was like, I'll give it a whirl. And then I was eating it for a while. Then I like watched one solve like a very tough puzzle. And I was like. Then I was like, I'm a hard pass on this.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I saw one do a 300 piece puz puzzle. Mr. T flexing. That was the 300 piece puzzle.

[Sal Vulcano]

A puzzle I could not solve, by the way. I'm like, I won't eat you.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. He does the. Does he go over to a chalkboard and do the Goodwill hunting formula?

[Sal Vulcano]

The answer is three pieces of chalk.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Just division signs and stuff going through his head.

[Sal Vulcano]

Let me ask you about the jug.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

This picture of. I'm gonna send Christina picture of this. You can see the octopus for sure.

[Sal Vulcano]

The gathering has been going for. Is it like 20 plus years?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

This was 25th year.

[Sal Vulcano]

25.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

25 years.

[Sal Vulcano]

So it stands to reason that there's new young Juggalos being introduced in.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, yeah.

[Sal Vulcano]

And then there's the people that are the warriors that have been going for 5, 10, 15, 20, dare I say 25. If you were 20 years old in 2000. There are people, I'm sure there were 45 year olds going that have been to anyone or that might be a rite of passage or claim to fame. I've been to every one of them or something like that.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

There's some flat out older people just there in general. Hippies, in fact, because they're going there, I'd assume, for the drugs. It is an open air drug market for sure.

[Sal Vulcano]

Just.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It is a complete open air. There's zero.

[Sal Vulcano]

Was there zero fear of any repercussion? Right? Zero.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I didn't feel any. You know what? I was doing a NOS balloon front of side of the stage, like you do.

[Sal Vulcano]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

As you will. Yeah. And when I did that, the guy goes. He goes, dude. He goes, don't do that, like, in such plain sight in front of the stage. And I'm like, you know, there's people, like, booting up heroin into their girlfriend's toes right there. And he's like, yeah, but you're in front of the barrier. I'm like, got it. Okay. That's fair. I didn't have a big better argument after that. He's like, yeah, but they're behind the barrier and you're on this side of it. I was like, sure. All right, dude.

[Sal Vulcano]

Know where your barrier is? Okay.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Do your NOS balloon back there.

[Sal Vulcano]

Wait, nos? Is that what makes Dominic Toretto go fast?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It is also, yes, but it makes my voice go like this. Oh, I apologize. I'll take this backstage.

[Sal Vulcano]

Wait, this is the thing that is, like, in whippets.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Mm.

[Sal Vulcano]

Oh, okay. That's Nas. I thought that was CO2, maybe. Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Like, maybe I just call it Nos.

[Sal Vulcano]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I live my life a quarter mile at a time.

[Sal Vulcano]

Isn't that.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Sal Vulcano]

I didn't call it nas. Is that okay?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Is it not nos? It's probably not.

[Sal Vulcano]

The thing in Ready Whip is also what makes you win a Tokyo Drift. It's the same thing.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't know for sure. Okay.

[Sal Vulcano]

Because you could, like, in a pinch, just get a whole bunch of Ready Whips.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Thank God I'm not a mechanic. When Dominic Toretto, at the last moment, has to send himself over the edge and he pushes the button and just. Fucking whip cream. Oh, man. I think Nas is laughing at us.

[Sal Vulcano]

Laughing. Oh, so that's. Oh, that's what that is.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

But this doesn't make me laugh. It makes you almost pass out, is the move. Almost.

[Commercial Announcer]

It doesn't make you laugh.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Nitrous oxide.

[Sal Vulcano]

That's what I thought it was.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. NOS sometimes. Oh, okay. And recreationally as an inhaler. Yeah. So it's the same thing.

[Sal Vulcano]

Yeah. I accidentally did this at a concert. Flaming Lips, Right. I went to Flaming Lips at Brooklyn Steel. And I came out. I was with a group. I was with Ari and a few other people, and I came out and somebody. I'm just. I'm Just in a pot. It let out. There's hundreds of people in the streets. We're at a group, six, seven of us. Someone hands me a balloon. I. This is how. How much I don't know about this stuff. I thought it was for helium.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Sure. So. Oh, you guys are going to all have funny voices with each other. Yeah.

[Sal Vulcano]

So someone hands me a balloon.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Why would I think.

[Sal Vulcano]

What other reason would there be a balloon? You know? So I sucked it in, and I'm like, talking and my voice is not changing. Your voice got deep because mine.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, yeah. Really? You did it wrong.

[Sal Vulcano]

Oh, I did it. Okay. So I sucked in.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I was like, well, helium, though. You just kind of got to let it go into your mouth with the balloon. You're supposed to actually, like, like, suck it in too.

[Sal Vulcano]

I did.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And hold it, but my voice didn't.

[Sal Vulcano]

Change because we use that.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You didn't hold it in and stuff.

[Sal Vulcano]

Okay. And then I was like, what. What is this? Why is my voice not changing? Everyone's hysterical laughing, and they're like, it's nitrous oxide. I'm like, no, it's not. Why would it be in a balloon? Why would you. Who handed me this? And then they were like. I looked around. Everyone had the balloons. I'm like, what is. And then there was someone selling the balloons.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Sal Vulcano]

Like, on a. Like, like, it was like. It was actually nice. It was like all. Like, they were all balloons, like, in a row on, like, a piece of, like. You talked to poster board.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You talked to Fenoy about this? Yeah. And he'll tell you. There is what's called Christine. Look them up. The nitrous mafia. There's been.

[Commercial Announcer]

Doesn't call them looks.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No, no, you're talking about just. No, Nitrous mafia is the guys that run that, like, shit, like, outside of, like, fish concerts and everything. And I think there maybe has been violence with people protecting, like, the. Who's going to be the people selling the nos.

[Sal Vulcano]

Is that right?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I think so. Wow.

[Sal Vulcano]

Like, this is my turf.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Sal Vulcano]

Oh, my God.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And like, it's a real.

[Sal Vulcano]

What does fight amongst fish mafia people look like?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Who knows?

[Sal Vulcano]

So I had never seen this before. And I was. I was confounded. And I was like, why would someone hand me this? And I sucked it in. And like, I didn't know. I didn't know that, like, what I was sucking in. And I was like. And everyone. It was very funny to everyone else, but I was like, I. I didn't really laugh.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It's funny. Lewis didn't want to do it. And then when I was doing it, he brought up a picture. He brought up a, like, the Wikipedia page of, like, what this does to you if you do it a bunch over the course of three days. And so I just looked up the dangers of unprotected sex with frequent strangers. Gave his phone back to him. Yeah, you want to go for all the things we have problems with? Yeah. We're all gonna die. Dude, relax. Here's what unprotected sex with random strangers does.

[Sal Vulcano]

I thought you were gonna say, like, if you do, it prolonged, like, over years. But you said three days, which scares the out of me now, like, you have something wrong within three days.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You're not gonna though. You're not gonna.

[Sal Vulcano]

This was like. This was like. I would say this was maybe five. Maybe five years ago.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And your hand just stopped shaking.

[Sal Vulcano]

And I haven't felt right since.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

So nothing's been the same since that day. No, I did. That's hardest. That's the hardest I've done.

[Sal Vulcano]

It kills your cells right away, right? Something like that.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Also, again, like every other drug, I don't know why it never. I'm always looking left and right at people enjoying drugs more than me. I don't know what it is. And this one isn't like, it can be blocked by Lexapro or anything. Just everybody else that's doing it, like, lays back at one point, has their eyes closed, and they're like, whoa, man. And I'm just like, that's kind. Hey, guys. It's kind of fun, right? Yeah. I give a couple of big bops for him. I hit a couple big boppers to do, but voice is back. All right, you guys want to go get some food?

[Sal Vulcano]

Jay, will you do another one?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Come on now. You know Jay gonna come down with it. It's like, oh, man. Dude. I'm like, the Love Master. Craig Shoemaker, remember the Love Master?

[Sal Vulcano]

What is that?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

From his stand up from the 90s, shoemaker's love master. Come on, baby. Come on. No, I don't remember him. So Craig Shoemaker is a comic from Philly, but he's done a bunch of specials and stuff. Just one of, like, the. One of the regular, like, evening of the improv stuff like that. Back in that day, he always did a character called the Love Master, and it was. It was a thing he did and he. But it was a character. Come on, baby. Love Master going to make you feel good. And then, like, all things in the 90s because there was no streaming services and People don't remember this. They needed to make movies to put in theaters. They needed movies.

[Sal Vulcano]

Right.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

So they take chances on movie theater movies. On movies that wouldn't be on fucking tubi right now. Right, right, right. The Love Master is one such film. Decided to go and make a film on it where it's like, yeah, you know, his alter ego is what's making him popular with the ladies. Wow. Christine, if you wouldn't mind, the trailer for the Love Master movie, please.

[Sal Vulcano]

Wow.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It's a film star. By the way, co star, the girl from Melrose Place, Courtney Thorne Smith.

[Sal Vulcano]

Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah. Oh, chairman of the board.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yes. Yes. Yeah. This chick said yes to any comedian's movie. They say she was the yasmine bleeth of 97. Is this it? Yeah, here we go. Also, by the way, Rip. Yes. He happens to be a stand up comedian also.

[Sal Vulcano]

Yeah. Oh, in the movie.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I can't believe that any comedian puts pen to paper anymore on a fucking story that involves them or the main character being a goddamn comedian. Who care. We've explored all of the ups and downs and woes of it. We did it. It's a shitty business. Something good can happen overnight. Something never good can happen. You can end up on cruise ships and everything in between. Blah, blah, blah. We get it.

[Sal Vulcano]

There's not one story that hasn't been told.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

My family doesn't understand the struggle and how I need to do this.

[Sal Vulcano]

And then the flip side, I mean, Seinfeld covered it on also pretty good.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, let's also throw Mulaney while we're at it. And every other show that makes the person a comic. Also, wasn't Jim Jeffries also a comic?

[Sal Vulcano]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yes. Stop, stop, stop. Comic shows, Christine. I know, but you wouldn't. A heartbeat.

[Sal Vulcano]

What about that? Was there. Was it the Adam Sandler one where he was like terminal?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Ah, yeah. Then there's a sad stand up comedy movie.

[Sal Vulcano]

Yeah, there's a Sad ones.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, stop making an analogy and make it something you're going to compare to comedy. Even stop making it another comedian's life. We think it's so romantic. It's not.

[Sal Vulcano]

No, it's terrible.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It's not even terrible. You can't. You can make good stories out of the world, but like, what else is left to be told from it?

[Sal Vulcano]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Struggling guy who's working hard, guy who makes it really fast. People who can't sustain fame.

[Sal Vulcano]

What was the De Niro one? He did it. Was it called the Comedian?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I didn't even watch that one. Yeah. It was called the Comedian. Right. They were doing that at the Cellar also. Every comedy movie film is the seller. If I saw every special and comedy movie has the same backdrop of a stickman telling jokes.

[Sal Vulcano]

I saw that one on a plane, but I just remember watching it and De Niro didn't hold the mic like a comedian. I'm like, that's one thing you got to get right done right away. It's like he just didn't look like it was something he did every night.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He was giving a speech or something. More elbows out. Yeah. But by the way, the pose they have him do on the COVID of the Comedian. And if everyone will put it out, it couldn't be more of like a, hey, what would a comedian do right here? But that's what I'm. But that's just what I'm thinking. God damn it.

[Sal Vulcano]

That's like, I know.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

What a chaos for something that didn't need to be done again.

[Sal Vulcano]

That's like this weekend at the loony bin.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, fucking again. Another. Yeah. Appearing this week. Yeah. Wacky Tom.

[Sal Vulcano]

That's definitely like at a hotel. Like, like at a hotel, like, hotel comedy poster.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I know. It's just like the, the, like the subtext of the whole thing being the world of stand up comedy is so boring.

[Sal Vulcano]

Do you think that any of the material from the De Niro comedian movie, any of it, like, even a lot. Did you think any joke would land in reality? Like, if you watch it right now, would you give me a taste? Rip it apart? Or would it be like, before we.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Get crazy, give, say, a little taste of what the love master's got going on in his film trailer. And then let's jump over to some De Niro stand up. Oh, you fuck. He's got to get the impressions in, dude. By the way, 97's even pushing a Don Knotts record.

[Sal Vulcano]

It's crazy.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

97, you're like, this movie is for my age almost exclusively.

[Sal Vulcano]

Yeah. A Don Knott in the trailer. That's best foot forward 20 plus years.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

After he had final cut on trailer. He goes, guys, I know you keep saying it doesn't make sense, and we're not catching a new audience here with the Don Knotts impression out of the gates. But I'm telling you, they'll. They'll reverse engineer. They'll go backwards. I'm the fucking. Yeah, yeah, guys, I'll let you know. The Don Knotts thing goes killer every night. Yeah, dude, but you're working like in fucking casinos and shit. He goes, yeah, just Leave the Don knots.

[Sal Vulcano]

Also, this is 97 Seinfeld wrapped in 98. And famously did shrinkage.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Shrinkage, for sure. Sure. Well, he's trying to. Trying to get you to pay attention to the screen for a second. Yeah, that was Farrah Fawcett.

[Sal Vulcano]

No.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Wasn't it? No, no, that was Farrah Fawcett. These are studio favors.

[Sal Vulcano]

Oh, my God. That was Farrah Fawcett.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Hey, my dick just touched your doorbell, Miss Fawcett.

[Sal Vulcano]

Oh, my God. I gleaned nothing from the trailer, by the way. Is this about a guy who wasn't respected, then found a smooth voice, and then his life changed?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. Well, let it unfold a little bit. There's about 30 seconds left, if you wouldn't mind.

[Sal Vulcano]

Christine is the. Is the whole movie. Him talking to George Wendt.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Going out on a one date with Farrah Fawcett, and then also his act, which we all know is his life. Damn. Kurt Rambis got earlier billing.

[Sal Vulcano]

Why not just call it the funniest.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Movie of the year? Go back to the cast right there. I want to see this because there were some goodies in there. Special appearances by Courtney Thorne Smith, Farrah Fawcett, Harley Jane Korak. Can you see who that is so I can see if that's a big special appearance? And Karen Witter. No idea. You don't want to. Don't want to open yourself up to live. You say, it might be.

[Sal Vulcano]

That's so funny. And the last thing is it just might be the funniest movie of the.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, I don't want to make guarantees what.

[Sal Vulcano]

What some people are calling the funniest movie.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Don't.

[Sal Vulcano]

Don't put doubt in the. The last thing you. You do is cast doubt about this very.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

May well be the funniest movie Fat Joe has ever seen.

[Sal Vulcano]

I still tweet it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I know. I know you do. I believe I mentioned I look for it every ufc. Did I ever tell you that, Jaco? Me and just a couple years back when we were watching ufc, we were laughing because they show the tweets on the bottom of the screen while the fighters are fighting that are going, people. Oh, man. That was a 10, 9 round for sure. For so and so. This is a great. Oh, these guys are going at. They're bang.

[Sal Vulcano]

And then it's mostly just the fighters and Theo Vaughn.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And Theo Vaughn. Mostly. Yeah. And then at one point, it just has Fat Joe and just goes, yo, this may be the best fight I've ever seen, or this very well may be the best fight I've ever seen. And then. So from then on out, whenever me and Sal were watching the fights together, he would tweet because he's got the best chance of it getting on Sal. So we have Sal tweeting, this very well may be the best fight Fat Joe has ever seen. For any fight we remember the beginning of any. If we remembered this before the second or third round of any fight, he just tries again. This very well may be the best fight Fat Joe has ever seen.

[Sal Vulcano]

I tweeted it from UFC 205 to UFC 319.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

They've never put it on. You think they just shut you up. One time they'd be like, okay, it's the best thing fetched.

[Sal Vulcano]

No one up there has a sense of humor. No one. It's the same person that puts him up.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Okay, let's see. Haley Jane Harley Jane Kozak is an American actress and author. She made her film debut in a slasher film in 82 and has a recurring role as Mary Duvall on. What's that? On the soap opera Santa Barbara. She was also in Clean and Sober. Wow. Special appearance. That made her feel really good.

[Sal Vulcano]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That's the first time in her whole career they said special appearance. Isn't she in stripes? It's very possible she was in stripes. Christine, look up if she was in stripes. And also type in her name in the word nude. Well, you always got it.

[Sal Vulcano]

Just run the.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Just take it through the car wash, let her know, see if she's done the whole. If you wouldn't mind. Thank you.

[Sal Vulcano]

First, we'll do this.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. First take the IMDb and also, I'd love to see the book she wrote, if you wouldn't mind. And also, if there is. If it's available in audio.

[Sal Vulcano]

What? Courtney Thorne. What is it like? She was active. Courtney Thorne Smith. She was some. You know, and then all of a sudden, it just. I guess, well. MELROSE plays it just comes to an end, I guess. I don't see her in much.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

She. I think what happened was she hit the sitcom circuit. Good. Yeah. Off the ground and running. She was definitely in, like. I can't think of what. If we look at her IMDb, she was in Growing Pains or Family, something like that.

[Sal Vulcano]

Right.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

One of them deals she was on Nice. She was on one of those.

[Sal Vulcano]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Kind of shows for. And then went to TV teen dramas. Melrose Place. And you want to go up. You have to get out of it. And then they get all the way up. Boom.

[Sal Vulcano]

It's so high.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Sal. I don't know if you expect the only satellite radio company in existence to have their studios with a bunch of functioning chairs? Dude, they have to focus on satellites. They can't even find anybody to make these $10,000 cameras work. They're on all the time. But no is controlling them.

[Sal Vulcano]

Those are so expensive.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

10,000 a piece, I was told. And they use on the show. And they are connected to nothing. Nobody's watching them. They're not connected to a screen. I don't even know if they're plugged in. Really.

[Sal Vulcano]

I got a haircut for this.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Nice. But she did. Is this her being naked on TV's Dream on with Brian Ben Ben?

[Sal Vulcano]

Oh, wow.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That's where it was bound to be. That's where a lot of people did their PJ soles. Was in striped. My bad. Yeah, you fucked up big, Jacob. I'll let it go. Oh, she's getting it from behind. From Brian Ben Ben. I've always. That name stayed with me. Well, you don't forget a name like that. Brian Ben Ben more than the show. I couldn't tell you an episode of the show Dream on, but I remember it was starring Brian Ben Ben, and there was a lot of pictures in one of my favorite pseudo pornographic magazines called Celebrity Sleuth that showed a lot of Brian Ben Ben in the background. Because it was a show about sex, I guess.

[Sal Vulcano]

Is that right?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Dream on. You never watched it?

[Sal Vulcano]

No, I know it. I didn't watch it though. I will say though, from the look of her in that sex scene, I think I feel like she's never had sex.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It did look. Yeah. The face she made, it did seem strange. Yeah. Yeah. She was one goes. Are we sexing now? Oh, I know. We're all over the place. Is this.

[Sal Vulcano]

This is Robert De Niro.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. Who's bringing him on stage? Is that Keith Robinson or Jimmy J.J. walker? It should be J.J. walker.

[Sal Vulcano]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

If you want to watch. Maybe the funniest. If you could find it, maybe there's a trailer for this too. Would be fantastic. I mean, the best two for in all of comedy. We talked about it years ago on here, but remember they just put out on Showtime a double headline special. Jimmy JJ Walker and Michael Winslow. Oh. Oh, yeah. What a night, dude.

[Sal Vulcano]

I'm all for it. This sounds like something you and I would do when you come over my place.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, that would be like if Barbra Streisand and Cher just said, we're gonna fucking do dueling pianos tonight. I mean, that is great. It's the Elton John, Billy Joel of. Of this kind of shit. Is this gonna be De Niro? Stand up. Yeah, give me a taste.

[Sal Vulcano]

Because this is how people talk.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Sal Vulcano]

Right before you go on stage.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Well, it's the. It's the punchline effect. You know, everyone doing that, he goes, there's scouts in the audience tonight. What does that mean?

[Sal Vulcano]

Right.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Let me go to my locker and change my outfit. Scouts, they. Why? I tell you what, I'm worried about that kid. I feel like that kid. I think it's the same kid, plays a sexually confused boy in everything he plays.

[Sal Vulcano]

Oh, that was a kid.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That was a boy, wasn't it, though? Yeah, yeah. I think this kid is played a. I'm confused whether I should wear a dress or pants in several movies that's gonna hit him at some point.

[Sal Vulcano]

Is that the kid from the Justin Timberlake?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I think maybe he nails it.

[Sal Vulcano]

So they just know to go to him.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

If you need a kid to not feel that weird going to a dress around other kids, then I got the kid for you. Oh, have you guys met my sexually ambiguous nephew? We call him Lee because that can go either way.

[Sal Vulcano]

You ever see that curb with the little kid that. I guess Anna Gastey is dating her, and it's his son. And he's clearly. He's gay little kid, but she doesn't cop to him. And he comes out and he's like, hey, Jews. He's talking to Larry and Larry, like. He's like.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He sees like the flamboyant kid. Yeah, his kid's the best.

[Sal Vulcano]

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[Big Jay Oakerson]

How can you be this good of an actor and not deliver this well, no. Is he supposed to be like newer at it or something? Or is it like a long time?

[Sal Vulcano]

I don't recall. But it feels, it seems like he's.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

A great actor if he's being choppy.

[Sal Vulcano]

Right? But I don't think that's the case.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It looks choppy.

[Sal Vulcano]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Jacob's an easy mark though. Jacob laughs there. Everything.

[Sal Vulcano]

Wait, you laughed at that joke?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No, no.

[Sal Vulcano]

You laughed at how bad the joke was.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No computer. Jacob laughed. We can make Jacob laugh. We can make Jacob laugh at whatever the we want. Hey, did you hear? Our 12 babies died in that flaming truck. Jacob. Jacob. Jacob. Not cool, bro. Jesus Christ. Where's the security at this club?

[Commercial Announcer]

There is none.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Somebody call a cop. What is this? A stand? Are they filming the stand where the comics have to police their own problems? There was a problem with the stand tonight, so I had to bounce two people out. I've had to bounce the stand four times in my life.

[Sal Vulcano]

Really?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh.

[Sal Vulcano]

Oh.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

A gaggle of Jewish boys. That was an easy one. That was fun. We were just padding numbers on that one. Oh, yeah. No, without a doubt you have a lot of comedy takeovers. Sneak attack you at the I Haven't had that. Well, they would have been stopped while they brought in their gimbal camera.

[Sal Vulcano]

It's literally on a steady. She has on camera.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

She got the thing where it sits like in the front of her stomach. All right, you're on stand up takedown. We have a gu. Where's my gaffer?

[Sal Vulcano]

There's a lighting kit.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Where's my key grip? We're losing daylight here, gang.

[Sal Vulcano]

It's just so unrealistic. It's so over the top unrealistic. Like, you know, it's like so campy.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

In a way, like.

[Sal Vulcano]

Or like.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Well, they don't know how to get it done somehow. I said, I mean, punchline is just like that didn't. I didn't even care for the movie as a standup comedy fan when I was a kid. I saw it when it came out.

[Sal Vulcano]

Yeah, I saw it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't remember vc, you know, like a VHS or whatever. And I was like kind of whatever. But I mean, even just starting in comedy, I think me and Kurt Metzger probably watched that again a year in. Where you really still have no semblance of what's going on, but already realized that at no level of this are you gonna get your locker at the. At the comedy club. It doesn't fucking even make sense. And then, by the way, one day someone has to clear out their locker. What happened? He's moving on down the dirt trail, cleaning up his locker.

[Sal Vulcano]

Walk into the crowd with a milk crate, getting escorted out a plant.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. Hey, there you go. Hey, Wacky Sam, water my plant for me. I'm gonna leave it here. Hey, just cause I'm getting kicked out, doesn't mean the plant has to do. Right, chief? You can cut it off. Wow, that. Would that work in a real comedy club? Yeah. On an 8 o' clock show at a packed house. Mainstream club.

[Sal Vulcano]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

In a major city. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, hack works for a reason, you know? I mean like the most basic level of stuff. Yeah, Yeah, I think it would. That's almost the sad part of it. It's why. But again, it's. No one would do comedy for a full year straight if you like. What you would gauge to be killing.

[Sal Vulcano]

Right.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Was not what you were doing in the beginning.

[Sal Vulcano]

Right.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Does it make it because like you can. The idea is like you can get what dude said that to me. Someone gave me like advice a long time ago. It might have been Patrice. Oh, it was Patrice that said that. He goes, how many people stop at learning how to kill?

[Sal Vulcano]

Right?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And that's not really the tell.

[Sal Vulcano]

Right, right, right.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

At all. It's like, obviously you want to kill, but it's like, can you kill and then have everybody else who can kill see you uniquely? Like, oh, wow, he kills. And he's doing it like this. Like it's something like, kind of interesting what he's doing or just different or his own whatever it is. Yeah, it's very interesting. We get all. In the beginning, you have all the things we did, all of them. I look like so and so fucked. So and so. You ever see someone with a dick looks like this? And it looks like. And this is how I fucking. It's a stool.

[Sal Vulcano]

I'm half Cherokee, half.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Exactly the. You know, you need your first year comedy thing to go well, but then you have to abandon it. You also shouldn't be 17 years in the comedy and being like, so I'm half Polish and half Italian, which means my Thanksgivings are a little, you know, like, no, please, dude, stop. Everyone. You know, you know, all the. Some people are outside, Irish are outside fighting, and all the Polish side of the family's inside trying to figure out how to change a light bulb. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Especially Jacob. Thank you individually for laughing at that. Evil Jacob even likes. Evil Jacob likes an easy one. Also doesn't always have to be dick and balls for this guy. I really. It's so funny to get past all those things, but there's no reason to sometimes if, like, you get addicted to that killing.

[Sal Vulcano]

If you're getting. Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I mean, you're like, how could I try something that might not work now?

[Sal Vulcano]

And you're getting booked on shows and.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That'S just absolutely going for laughs. I mean, no hack works for a reason, but it will eventually fall onto a cruise ship.

[Sal Vulcano]

Yeah, it only works in certain areas and clubs. I mean, you can't do that.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Here it is watching people on Facebook.

[Sal Vulcano]

Well, you guys, you can do it here.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, you can.

[Sal Vulcano]

Yeah, you can.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Absolutely. The people, the comics that I know from the. When I started out like that you just followed on Facebook right away. And I'm following there. I mean, it must be my algorithm because I always look at them following their. Trying to pretend that cruise ship comedy life is a dream come true. It's very funny to watch. It's like, dude, three meals a day at the old shitty buffet. Like, I can't get laid if I wanted to because if I go to someone's room, I'm in trouble. So straight. There's so many, like, stringent rules.

[Sal Vulcano]

I get to Leave the boat from noon to three.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. In a. In a third world country where I'm constantly in danger if I leave the senior frogs, bro, I'm at a straw market every weekend.

[Sal Vulcano]

Kidding me.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I know how to haggle, get local woodworkings. I've met a few witch doctors that have. I think my shoulder doesn't feel bad anymore. I think there's some kind of a curse. He shrunk a head or something. Witch doctor. Got a few local witch doctors over off the coast of Trinidad Tobago. I got this Dr. Seuss hat with dreadlocks attached to it.

[Sal Vulcano]

I'm basically Tobago at this point. Honorary toboggan.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Also, a person who immerses himself in another country makes me sick to my stomach too. Like, no, I'm American, but, you know, I love living in fucking Switzerland. Fuck off. No, you don't. It sucks there to live for sure. It definitely. Nobody wants to go to these places. But the cruise ship life. Oh, man, it's so great. Like, you can catch me on the paradise, the carnival paradise. And then I'm going to something now featuring no black people.

[Sal Vulcano]

It gets lonely on that. I mean, when you're on a festival or something, it's fun. But when you're like the. The comic or like a. One of the couple of comics and you're on this thing for like, you sign a contract, you're on it for months and stuff.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I mean, it has to be. And I said. And the idea I.

[Sal Vulcano]

You can't sleep. They forbid you to. To meet and have sex, hook up with people. Forbidden. Yeah. Because they're famously. They're a liability.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Famously. There was a comic. Famously. It was a comic who was. When they. They saw in the video that he went from a hallway into a room.

[Sal Vulcano]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And then he was helicoptered off of the plane back to land.

[Sal Vulcano]

Oh, my God.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Because you are immediately a liability, I guess. Yeah, yeah.

[Sal Vulcano]

Wow.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Now let me tell her. Me and Christine looked at. On the Impractical Jokers Cruise, the chartered cruises, you see, Fuck anybody you want. And there was a couple of loose wild sluts on the Impractical Jokers Cruise. Believe it or not.

[Sal Vulcano]

I was gonna say there's like 15 comics or 20 comics on every time we do it. We've done six of them, I think. And I know for a fact so many comics have hooked up with people on that thing.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's definitely. They come to party on the Impractical Joker's Cruise. But that was my. Still my favorite dude. Because Christine had to really do. Christine. That was her first taste.

[Sal Vulcano]

Did you guys hook up?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, yeah. It was Christine's first taste of. In the afternoon. In the afternoon.

[Sal Vulcano]

Oh, a little afternoon delight.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It was crazy.

[Sal Vulcano]

Wow.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

She came up very aggressive. Cute girl, great body. We went. But she came back to the room. And Christine, for the first time in.

[Sal Vulcano]

Her life, I thought the boat was a rockin'. It was.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Thank God no one came knocking. You would've walked into some weird shit. But the girl before we got to hook up with her, I just kept looking and biting my lip, laughing at Christine. Cause this girl on. I think she brought an iPad to show us all of her local hip hop music video dancing that she does for local hip hop guys. And I go. And Christine's going like, I don't know if they're going to the bathroom, whatever. And she was like, I can't look at any more of these pictures. I go, this is what hooking up is. You have to be nice to this girl and let her think you give a fuck about her stupid local rap dancing and tell her she's really good at it.

[Sal Vulcano]

You have to lay foundation. It's quick dry cement. But you gotta lay it. You gotta lay it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You gotta give her 10 minutes of, you're very talented.

[Sal Vulcano]

Christine's out there with the thing, just smoothing it out.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, yeah, Christine, Christine, just pour it. Let's go.

[Sal Vulcano]

And this is you too. And this is another rap video.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, yeah. Wow. Christine, you can see her face is starting to shake and go like, I'm a girl. Why do I have to do this part? And I'm like, well, because in this scenario, she's the girl and we are the communal guy in some weird way. And you have to do all the guy stuff, sit there and say, this is great.

[Sal Vulcano]

You really hit those moves.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You really. It's like, can you. Actually, I would. I'd love you teach me, but I couldn't even possibly learn these moves. You're really good. You're really, really good. That first hour flew by quick, huh? Some of a. Well, it's always so good to talk to Sal. Sal Volcano is currently on tour through 2026. He never stops. He's gonna be at The Chicago Theater, November 14, the Beacon Theater in New York City, December 27. Am I home for that?

[Sal Vulcano]

Please? I hope you are. Please, please.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I worry. I worry. Christine, are you double checking my calendar? Christine, go through my calendar right now and see.

[Sal Vulcano]

Well, that. I don't know. That's.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That.

[Sal Vulcano]

That.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

So maybe. Yeah. All right. Well, I hope so. I want to go to that. I want you. That theater is so awesome. Well, Christine, you can go either way.

[Sal Vulcano]

Please come. Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, I'd love to find out that Christine can't come unless I go.

[Sal Vulcano]

I can go.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And then for tickets and all of his tour dates go to salvolcanocomedy.com his new podcast, season one of new 10 episode talk show Minouche, premieres in the fall on sal Volcano, official YouTube channel. What's that? What's the new podcast gonna be?

[Sal Vulcano]

It's short for minutia. It's like, it's a ridiculous thing. It's like half, half, like talking, half sketch. And it goes in and out. Oh, yeah, yeah, it's been fun. I filmed a few episodes so far and I'm gonna do them in like 10 episode batches and put them out, out at one time because I can't, like, I'm just too busy right now to do it every single week. That's why I want a hiatus with the other ones. But I want to do something where like, I wasn't. I didn't have a co host so I could film them when I, when I'm available. Because my schedule.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I never get you away from Joe derosa. I know the ultimate goal.

[Sal Vulcano]

I miss doing it with him, so.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

The ultimate goal was that.

[Sal Vulcano]

But it's good. It's. It's called minutiae. It's, it's, it's gonna be really, really fun. It's like, it's short. It's only like 30, 40 minutes. And then we're gonna break it up, put them all online. It's all like clips and stuff. It's gonna be good film.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

We gotta figure all this stuff. We're old men, so we gotta figure this stuff. I'm doing live streaming now, bit.

[Sal Vulcano]

Oh yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Where I was going through my algorithm on YouTube and just sitting there for hours. It doesn't matter how much you tell people to not tip. It's not necessary to tip. They just do anyway.

[Sal Vulcano]

I live streamed once on TikTok and I didn't even know about tipping. And when I was done it, I had all this money and I still never cashed it out.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, I haven't cashed out yet, but I said what I'm gonna do is we were watching a true crime thing and while they were questioning this woman about her, I don't know the violence that she's done or, or was done against her. All I kept noticing was they had a beautiful house, but the only picture hanging on the Wall was a photograph of Tina Turner and Mick Jagger together. No rationale for it, no nothing. He didn't take the picture of the guy. It wasn't anything. And then we looked it up. It's a picture you can buy. It cost $800 framed. And the people. So we're gonna use what the people sent to just buy it. And that's gonna be the background of my show, of my background is gonna be a picture of Tina Turner and Mick Jagger for $800.

[Sal Vulcano]

Jesus Christ. Why $800?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't know why it cost that much, but they just kept giving money. So I was like, woman use for some stupid. Then this is dumb. Like, you don't have to keep sending money. It's fine. Like buy tickets to my shows. Don't send me $50. Go buy two tickets to my show.

[Sal Vulcano]

Right, right.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

But it's been fun. And of course, season 12 still airing every Thursday, 10pm on TBS. And you know, you told me you go if you have YouTube TV, you can DVR it. Yes, it was already being done. Just how good of a friend I am. I want you to know new season's been hilarious. Thank you, buddy.

[Sal Vulcano]

Thank you.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Very so funny. So, yeah, I hope, I hope it keeps going. How many more episodes this season to air? I know, it's so funny. You're still filming.

[Sal Vulcano]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And it's airing.

[Sal Vulcano]

Yeah. I think there's one or two before they do a little break. And then there's another nine from season 12 to still come out.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Nice. Oh, yeah, dude. Every Thursday at 10pm on TBS. And we'll be right back, everybody. Where am I gonna be this weekend? Stress factory, New Jersey. Come out. Change it. Don't up. You have to change that. I'm gonna be the stress factor.

[Sal Vulcano]

Change that you're not. That you're at the gathering of the jugglers.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I mean, emotionally, I'm still together in the jugglers. Emotionally, I haven't left yet. I'm still in that fucking feel with those clowns. I'll tell you more about it.

[Sal Vulcano]

Maybe I come see you this week and hang out if I can get away, please.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yes, absolutely do. We'll be right back, everyone. It's the bonfire.

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[Big Jay Oakerson]

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[Big Jay Oakerson]

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[Big Jay Oakerson]

It'S gotta be tied.

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[Big Jay Oakerson]

Um, that's a hard question. Something that you can strive for, that.

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[Big Jay Oakerson]

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[Big Jay Oakerson]

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[Sal Vulcano]

They are the most important part of my style.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You can, like, express yourself in the.

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[Sal Vulcano]

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