
Bobby is back from his Aruba vacation where he had the time of his life with his family. Jay is trying to learn lyrics to a Slipknot song to sing at the next God Damn Comedy Jam. | A caller from San Diego calls in to tell what it was like to be in prison for ten years. The guys learn about the history of The Stonewall Inn and the creation of the Gay Pride Parade in New York City. | Jay performs with Shane Gillis and gets to meet celebrities backstage. He talks to Charlie Cox, the actor who plays Daredevil and couldn't tell if he was blind like his character. Then he has an awkward encounter with two members of his beloved Eagles and totally embarrasses himself. *To hear the full show to go www.siriusxm.com/bonfire to learn more FOLLOW THE CREW ON SOCIAL MEDIA: @thebonfiresxm @louisjohnson @christinemevans @bigjayoakerson @robertkellylive @louwitzkee @jjbwolf
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Big J Okerson
Every day, our world gets a little.
Robert Kelly
More connected, but a little further apart. But then there are moments that remind us to be more human.
Big J Okerson
Thank you for calling Amica Insurance.
Christine
Hey, I was just in an accident.
Big J Okerson
Don't worry. We'll get you taken care of.
Robert Kelly
At Ameca, we understand that looking out.
Big J Okerson
For each other isn't new or groundbreaking. It's human.
Robert Kelly
Amica, empathy is our best policy.
Big J Okerson
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Robert Kelly
Can't you just do Piano Man?
Big J Okerson
No, it's not. Not going to move the crowd. I mean, you got to bring up the thing. Christine, bring up.
Robert Kelly
First of all, Piano man always moves the crowd.
Big J Okerson
It does it always. You know what? I'm wrong. If I did Piano man, it would.
Danny
It'd be a real moment.
Robert Kelly
But you did Piano Man. The place would shut down.
Big J Okerson
It would be huge.
Robert Kelly
Yeah.
Danny
You know what? Can you just do it?
Big J Okerson
Well, we're doing three nights. It'll be all right. Maybe one of those nights.
Robert Kelly
I will do the Piano Man. I'll play the piano. Because you didn't know that I played the piano.
Big J Okerson
I've already. You don't play the piano, buddy.
Robert Kelly
Whoa, stop. Yes, I do.
Danny
Piano Man. Piano.
Robert Kelly
I play. What? What does that mean?
Big J Okerson
Okay. You play Piano man on piano. Piano Man, I play.
Robert Kelly
You don't know that I play piano. You don't even know me.
Big J Okerson
You know Billy Joel's got dementia, so pretty soon we could all play piano as good as him. Don't worry, it's coming. I already bought a mask for this, so I have to live to the mask. The mask is going to be uncomfortable, but it's important. Christine, bring up that video, please. It's very stressful. It's the one from years ago. I watch it a lot.
Robert Kelly
I'm gonna go now to see you succeed at doing this or fail. Fail. If you fail, what are you gonna do? Because if you jump off the bike, you can't get back on.
Big J Okerson
No, no. It's back when he has the dread. Still, it's in our. It's. I watch it a lot. Don't you worry.
Robert Kelly
And this. Can you explain to the listeners so we don't get yelled at?
Big J Okerson
No, that's not it.
Robert Kelly
This is slipknot. We're gonna look at the video. There you go look at Bob Kelly back. Corporate Bob.
Big J Okerson
Skip to about minute.
Robert Kelly
Corporate Bob's back. Explain this video. We're a radio show.
Big J Okerson
Right there. That's good. I'm explaining. She just. I'm getting her to the right point. This is slipknot live 2002 performing I believe in London. And then he does that little part that I just did, but they stop it at the end. And this was when me and my ex wife, when Carla, we went on one of our earliest dates. I took her to see Slipknot.
Robert Kelly
This is a great concert.
Big J Okerson
And at this point, this place went nuts. They didn't do. I thought they did this song we had to see. But he didn't do this for the first time, so he doesn't do the part. And he spends the next four minutes making everybody get down. Go, Christine. You can skip ahead now a bit.
Robert Kelly
They did not do this at the concert we went to.
Big J Okerson
They did not do this.
Robert Kelly
No, because.
Big J Okerson
Bummer.
Robert Kelly
Well, no one wants to get down on the garden floor.
Danny
They did the song.
Big J Okerson
They did the song. They just. They just.
Danny
They didn't do it, like.
Big J Okerson
No. So they played the. They played the album straight through. That's what they did. They played the first album. That's what it was. So I think you can go right here. I'm gonna try to recreate this moment.
Robert Kelly
I'm gonna stand in the middle of the CR and be the only one that doesn't get down.
Big J Okerson
That's what me and Carla were. That's what me and my ex were. I didn't know what was going to happen. And then it was the most terrifying thing I've ever been a part of.
Danny
There was nothing in you that was like, we should probably get down. Everyone around us is down.
Big J Okerson
We started to get down. Then I was like, we don't have to be down. I don't know this band and I don't know what the fuck I have to get down for. And I. And then I saw some guys, though. What happened was I was locked in at that point. Once everyone is down, you're the one standing in the lawn. You can't go anywhere. And then this happened. I was like, let's get to the part already. And that'll be you, bobby, the little DJ in the middle of this audience. This is about 50,000 people. And then watch this energy. Yeah, Bobby. Yeah, we're surfing you.
Robert Kelly
I might. I might just watch from the sidelines.
Big J Okerson
I might jump in the audience at the end of this. You can now, but I got that mask.
Robert Kelly
If you did. You couldn't have done this last year.
Big J Okerson
And I'm making Josh wear the N with the big nose.
Robert Kelly
If you jump. If you jump. Last year before he lost the weight, you'd.
Big J Okerson
You would have kill people. Yeah, without a doubt. Oh, it's going to be great, though. Oh, we're going to bring it down.
Robert Kelly
Bobby, what's up, buddy?
Big J Okerson
Tell me about your vacate. Tell me everything. Leave out nothing. What happened? Did you have sex?
Robert Kelly
Not only did I. First of all, I'm gonna say this. Best vacation I've ever been. It's the best vacation.
Big J Okerson
No sex.
Robert Kelly
No, that was. There was two bad things about the vacation.
Big J Okerson
No sex. And if there was sex, it would have just been with your wife.
Robert Kelly
Which is the same. Yes. Bad sex, good sex. I mean. I mean, look, she read a lot, which is also. That's so. That gets me hard just seeing a chick, you know, she had a black bikini on, so there was black and then white stomach. She looked like an Oreo cookie. For most of the week.
Big J Okerson
Sure.
Robert Kelly
I was like, you got to tan that stomach because it looks gross.
Big J Okerson
Then she burned up, right?
Robert Kelly
Then she got a little tan on the stomach.
Big J Okerson
I was.
Robert Kelly
You got to get the front. You gotta. You gotta tan that little white patch up because it's bugging me.
Big J Okerson
But then if it starts to get red, do you worry about that? It's not gonna look good. Like that kind of that. Like that pinky red and then super white tits is weird.
Robert Kelly
Well, I am a fan of the.
Big J Okerson
Tan line.
Robert Kelly
The tan line, sure. I love it. And here's the thing.
Big J Okerson
But coming off of burn is not.
Robert Kelly
Well, she had. She had. We burnt up the first day a little bit. Then we eased off and then she tanned it up. She looked down. Dawn right now, naked looks good.
Big J Okerson
You don't have to tell me.
Robert Kelly
I mean, I wish you didn't say that. I don't know what. What does that mean? But anyways, the. Is she sending you pictures?
Big J Okerson
No. No. Me and your mom talk about how lovely your body is.
Robert Kelly
Oh, that's nuts. But is that on the.
Big J Okerson
The aura frame sometimes I said our videos of me going, dawn's got a lovely figure. I don't know what Bobby's bitching about. Dawn is a lovely figure.
Robert Kelly
Well, she's got nice cans.
Big J Okerson
Sure.
Robert Kelly
No, she looks great when she tans up. I get very attractive.
Big J Okerson
Where it needs to be over there.
Robert Kelly
Yeah, it is.
Big J Okerson
You don't have to tell me, dude, the little butt.
Robert Kelly
But I. Yeah, we had no sex at all. We got a suite too he had a separate room. But we. It was the best dude.
Big J Okerson
We were so just. Max whacked off a bunch.
Robert Kelly
Well, here's the funny part is that there was around 4:35 o' clock every day. Max said, hey guys, I'm going to the nap time. I'm gonna go chill for a little bit. And Don was like, why does he keep going up to the room? I was like, don, he's going up to. Just don't step. Don't use any of the towels near his bed.
Big J Okerson
Yeah.
Robert Kelly
Because he's going upstairs.
Big J Okerson
Stop overthinking it. Just say see you, bud.
Robert Kelly
To nice relaxing time by himself. He's man. He's having a good time. So let him do his thing. So around 4:35 o' clock. Hey guys, I'm going to. I'll be back. I'm just going to go.
Big J Okerson
It's an Aruba meat beat. It's a tradition.
Robert Kelly
We. What is now, it wasn't last year.
Big J Okerson
A Reuben meat beat.
Robert Kelly
Yeah. It was not last year. It was the best dude. We did. We did something one day and then nothing the next. You understand?
Big J Okerson
Sure.
Robert Kelly
So we planned like wave runners the second day we were there.
Big J Okerson
That's fun. And next day, everybody got their own wave runner.
Robert Kelly
Well, Don jumped on the back with me.
Big J Okerson
Okay.
Robert Kelly
And Max got his own.
Big J Okerson
Yeah.
Robert Kelly
Which was crazy, cuz.
Big J Okerson
Illegal. I think.
Robert Kelly
100%.
Big J Okerson
Yeah.
Robert Kelly
He said he was 16. He lied. Who gives a. These people don't care.
Big J Okerson
They don't care. They're island idiots. He could have been the king of that place. The stupid fucking Arubans.
Robert Kelly
He drove. He drove the. I got a four wheeler.
Big J Okerson
They couldn't solve the most obvious murder in history.
Robert Kelly
They solved it. They didn't want to. It's the only murder they've ever had on that island.
Big J Okerson
The guy confessed eight different times and they still never got him on that. He's still. He's in jail for a girl he killed in Peru. He's not even in trouble for Natalee Holloway.
Robert Kelly
Still, I think he's dead. No, I think he's dead.
Big J Okerson
Don't you dare.
Robert Kelly
I swear to God, I think he's dead.
Big J Okerson
His brother just got promoted. Big promotion.
Robert Kelly
I think he's dead. I'm pretty sure he dead.
Big J Okerson
Do you think that was the thing? You think his brother wouldn't get promoted until he killed his brother?
Robert Kelly
I don't know, but he's definitely. Yeah. Is he dead? Is not dead serving a prison sentence? Remember Patrice's j. Oh, it is for.
Big J Okerson
The murder of Natalee Holloway. Are they sure?
Robert Kelly
Yeah, they got him.
Big J Okerson
What about. I thought the other girl serving in Peru, but that's weird.
Robert Kelly
He. He admitted to the Natalie thing, and he. When he. But he had caught for the Peru girl. You remember Patrice's joke about that, how racist people are? And he goes, well, what's that? Chicken Aruba that got killed. Everybody yells out, natalie Holloway. He goes, what's that other. That black bitch in Peru? He goes, they were like, exactly. You racist piece of.
Big J Okerson
Yeah, no one remembers that girl's name.
Robert Kelly
No, she's the Peru chick.
Big J Okerson
He got attacked in jail in 2024. He got injured.
Robert Kelly
No, I thought he got killed.
Big J Okerson
I worry about that, by the way, Every time you think maybe jail, they're overhyping. How dangerous and scary it is. You see what's the guy that shot Megan Thee Stallion? Allegedly shot Megan Thee Stallion in the foot. Got stabbed like 14 times in jail. Black low. You grabbed your mic. This is black news. Yes. Tory Lanez is who you're talking about. And that video is terrifying. He gets stabbed, like 14 times. Right?
Robert Kelly
Yeah, sorry.
Big J Okerson
It's fucking crazy.
Robert Kelly
Yeah.
Big J Okerson
And he's, like, famous.
Robert Kelly
Yeah.
Big J Okerson
Ish. Not to me. The point of Tory Lane's three times for me to know the. You're talking about, like, oh, the one who shot Megan Thee Stallion. I know she is because of that booty. She got that fat booty. But she's gotten thinner enough. That black Lou likes her now. Delicious.
Robert Kelly
And I like her. I like. I don't like a fat bow tie.
Big J Okerson
Megan the Stallion. She might be a lot for you.
Robert Kelly
I mean, a lot.
Big J Okerson
She might be too much for you.
Robert Kelly
I wonder, buddy.
Big J Okerson
Oh, there's. Tory Lane's getting stabbed in prison.
Robert Kelly
Is this him getting stabbed so much?
Big J Okerson
He gets stabbed so much.
Robert Kelly
So. Okay, what is this? What? Where is this?
Big J Okerson
It's in prison.
Robert Kelly
But what prison? What prison has video?
Big J Okerson
Let's say. Let's start using the clues. Let's use the clues and see which prison this is. Let's see. It's mostly blacks and Hispanics in there.
Robert Kelly
California.
Big J Okerson
Okay.
Robert Kelly
It's gotta be California.
Big J Okerson
Hang on. Whittle this down. Wow. The Aryan nation seems to be represented. Blacks, Hispanics, very few Asians.
Robert Kelly
What is in front. Is that a mirror in front of the stabbing?
Big J Okerson
Could this be any prison in the globe?
Robert Kelly
It says what prison he's in, right?
Big J Okerson
Yeah.
Danny
Let me look.
Big J Okerson
Well, he might not say it now because he's gonna get stabbed again. You put on a wig and change his name. I wonder why I got stabbed in prison so many times. So if the stabbings, the wild stabbings and violence are real, why are we to say the butt fucking is not real? The aggressive gay sex that they force you into. Force, force.
Robert Kelly
Now let me ask a question. If you went to jail, would you be a shock collar or would you be. Would you have little pigtails and give up that puss?
Big J Okerson
There's no in between.
Robert Kelly
Yeah.
Big J Okerson
Can't just like chill by myself and be the guy who reads and like trains birds to do stuff.
Robert Kelly
Now that guy doesn't exist. That was old school jail.
Big J Okerson
No.
Robert Kelly
Yeah, he's gone.
Big J Okerson
No, but I talk to the birds.
Robert Kelly
You're going to pick a race. I would say you, you would pick the black race.
Big J Okerson
I might, I might play retarded.
Robert Kelly
If you play retarded, they're going to not have you. They're going to, they're going to fuck you anyways.
Big J Okerson
No. Yeah, I'm going to fuck a retarded guy. There's no reason to.
Robert Kelly
Why not? It's funner.
Big J Okerson
Well, I don't understand. Yay is prison, but fucking for pleasure. Call in the show if you've been to prison and witnessed or been a part of aggressive buttfucking and don't call them with your bullshit story.
Robert Kelly
Eight, six, six, nine, six, nine. 1969.
Big J Okerson
Nice. If you have 1969.
Robert Kelly
I got it.
Big J Okerson
Nine, six, nine. 1969.
Robert Kelly
You, you, you have to, you have to be a killer or get.
Big J Okerson
No.
Robert Kelly
Yeah, that's my question.
Big J Okerson
That's what I'm saying. Where's the in between?
Robert Kelly
You have to, then you have to be the guy that gets people.
Big J Okerson
But how are you looked at as like, you got to be butt guys in a certain way to be deemed like the cool butt fucker where they're not looking at you as like, I think this guy's gay. He's just having sex with guys constantly. Someone's got to be there to go, no, he just fucks people who owe him to let them know you don't. He doesn't hold debts like that. You're gonna get fucked in the ass. Like, it's like, it's a masculine thing. I'm bitching you out, but because you owe me money and you can't afford to pay it. But I don't know how you can trick people in that sense. I would go, you just had sex with a guy, man.
Robert Kelly
But what it. But here's the thing. When you fucking guys in jail is not gay.
Big J Okerson
No, it's gay.
Robert Kelly
It's gay when you come out. If you do it, if you continue to do it.
Big J Okerson
No, it's gay. It's gay. And I know that inside they're gonna say it's not gay. But that's my point. I think it has to be put under the guise. If you want to have gay sex in prison, the move is you make it like, let me loan a guy. It's almost like doing the right thing. You loan a guy some money.
Robert Kelly
Yeah.
Big J Okerson
And then you know he can't pay you back. And then you go, hey, I need that money back, like today. And when he goes, no, then you go, I'm fucking you to prove a point. But it's just because you love him. You want to kiss him on the back and shit.
Robert Kelly
But what if he was like, yo, man, I'm going to fuck you. I ain't giving you shit. And you're going to give me more money. Now I'm fucking you, Jay. Hey, Jay.
Big J Okerson
Then you're going to have to aggressively fuck him. Yeah. You're going to have to take his ass.
Robert Kelly
So you're going to. You either take an ass or give an ass.
Big J Okerson
You're gonna get prison raped. Yeah, I guess if you fight back and say, I'm gonna, in fact, be fucking your ass.
Robert Kelly
Yeah.
Big J Okerson
I don't think. Yeah. Remember Ted, Alexandra had that great joke about that.
Robert Kelly
What was that?
Big J Okerson
He would say if he went to jail, he just. He goes, I'd be a difficult rape because I would just try to rape them back. And they would just go in a circle and he goes. And then the word would spread that I'm a difficult rape. And they'd go. They go, hey, that new guy goes, do you know that guy? If you had to rape that guy, he rapes you back. He goes, rape you back. Can you do that? He does it.
Robert Kelly
It's not worth it. It's not worth it.
Big J Okerson
To rape.
Robert Kelly
Big J is just a pain in.
Big J Okerson
The ass to way he worded that. He goes, you can do that. He does it.
Robert Kelly
What if you just put Kept in your ass all the time, like a rape deterrent, Almost like bear spray.
Big J Okerson
I have to assume if you're going to a guy's ass that you've already negotiated in your head, there might be some mud on your. There's going to be mud on your pickle.
Robert Kelly
There's going to be mud for sure, but not. But if you have a lot of mud up there. Like if you pack it up there and the guy takes it out and he's like, yeah. And then he's. It's almost like when you get bear Sprayed your eyes. You know what I mean? If you take. If I was gonna rape you and I pulled your pants down and there was poop all in there, I'd be like, I'm out. I'm not doing this right.
Big J Okerson
You draw lines, though. You know what I mean? Like, I don't think I. And also, I have to say, and I'm. Correct me if I'm wrong. This is not me being racially insensitive at all. I'm saying I don't think your average black wiener is gonna be shallow enough. It's like, there's gonna be. It goes far enough that you couldn't empty your colon out enough to not get a little turd on your black wiener.
Robert Kelly
But you're known, see? You're known. What if they're fans of the bonfire and they know how clean your asshole is?
Big J Okerson
If they're in, prison's probably skank's fans.
Robert Kelly
What if they know they're like, yo, man, I heard this guy on a podcast. His asshole's tight and clean. It's so clean deep up. He cleans it out every time he takes a poop.
Big J Okerson
It is my ass always clean. But I will warn you this. It's got, like, a pulling in thing with. I've only learned this with suppositories. It's got a. It, like, it pulls in.
Robert Kelly
It's turning me on. Why would I not want that? Why would I not want a muscle that pulls it in?
Big J Okerson
You might get stuck is what I'm worrying about.
Robert Kelly
Like what, like a Chinese thumb torture?
Big J Okerson
Yes. And then I gotta walk to. And then I have to go to my one hour of recipe with a guy strapped to my asshole. Oh, we have a call. Did he get fucked in jail?
Danny
He says he has some truth.
Big J Okerson
He has some truth for y' all. Oh, I like that. Dante Nero, Danny in San Diego. I'm gonna be in San Diego in two weeks. Hey, you think this guy's gonna fuck me?
Robert Kelly
I hope he does, Danny.
Big J Okerson
I hope you don't try to fuck me. Not a chance. Oh, thank God. Well, now can I be honest with you? Now, that hurt my feelings a little bit.
Robert Kelly
That hurt my feelings. Why wouldn't you want to fuck Jay? Jay has a beautiful asshole.
Christine
Yeah, not that I haven't heard a lot about his asshole.
Big J Okerson
Yeah. Just so you know, we don't have to have sex, Danny, but it would be beautiful if we did.
Robert Kelly
Yeah.
Big J Okerson
Geez Louise.
Robert Kelly
You don't have to reject him, Danny. You can say I would, but I'm just not into It.
Big J Okerson
Yeah. I'm not in the guys, or else I would totally.
Christine
I might be able to wear that as a badge of honor, huh? That I had sex with Big J. I do.
Robert Kelly
I do. I wear it as a badge Bobby.
Big J Okerson
Keeps around his boy scout sash.
Robert Kelly
How do you think I got this job? He wanted Mike Fenoya. I said, no, no, no. I got these video.
Big J Okerson
Mike Fenoya wouldn't lay with a man. It says, Danny did 22 years all in. Like, in and out.
Christine
It says, yeah, I don't like doing. Doing drugs and crime was basically my way of life for a lot of years when I was young and dumb. And so I did a lot of terms in prison all over California.
Big J Okerson
All over California. And was it because we were trying to see if this prison was in California. We're just looking at. Was it mostly blacks and Hispanics with the Aryan Nation typed in there somewhere? Okay, okay. All right. So maybe this was California, Bob. We were looking at.
Robert Kelly
First of all, they have Puerto Ricans out here, not Hispanics.
Big J Okerson
Okay?
Robert Kelly
New York has Puerto Ricans and Dominicans. No, Hispanics.
Big J Okerson
No, there's Hispanics.
Robert Kelly
They don't call them Hispanics.
Big J Okerson
Oh, yeah?
Robert Kelly
What are you, Cristella Alonzo?
Big J Okerson
She got hot, huh?
Robert Kelly
Yeah, she did.
Big J Okerson
What happened to her?
Robert Kelly
It's called Instagram.
Big J Okerson
Things.
Robert Kelly
Filters, filters. Hey, Danny, are you Spanish? Are you white?
Christine
I'm white.
Robert Kelly
You're white. So you did. You have to. Because certain prisons out there, you have to. You have to go with your race, but other prisons, you don't have to. Right?
Christine
Pretty much the California system was, if you did it, then you kind of left yourself hanging out there to be victimized. So you kind of did, you know, just by default. You didn't have to, like, join the Aryan Brotherhood or the Nazi Lowriders or anything like that, but you did kind of have to stick with your own people. And then you. Then they break it down to, like, you stick with your homies that are from San Diego, you know, we call it a car.
Big J Okerson
Danny, real quick. What are the Nazi Lowriders? Christine, can you look that up? I never even heard of that.
Robert Kelly
Is that Spanish? Nazis.
Danny
White power.
Christine
It's a prison gang out here, okay?
Big J Okerson
They're a white power gang. The Nazi Lowriders. Now who's more fun? Those are the Aryan Nation.
Robert Kelly
I was a Nazi lowrider. They got a better name.
Big J Okerson
I know, but I feel like the Aryan Nation now. I feel like American History X was more of the Aryan Nation, and those guys were. I don't know if, you know, were pretty good at Basketball good enough to take the court away from the black people of the area in a very legit fair game that ended in a 5 foot 5 guy doing a reverse dunk. And so I assume that would be more fun. The Nazi lowriders seem like they're too militant.
Danny
Wait, it's not all under the Aryan Nation like the Aryan Nation umbrella and you have like the Nazi low rider, Christine?
Big J Okerson
I don't know. You used to suck them all off. You tell us just one. Did you not get any information while you were blowing these Nazis back in the day?
Robert Kelly
You blew a Nazi?
Christine
They're different.
Robert Kelly
Clicks what is that? What is that? A dancing Nazi?
Big J Okerson
Neo Nazi? It's a Nazi who likes Disney.
Robert Kelly
Is that a Nazi from the 80s? Yeah, the lowrider Nazis seem like they meet at a Denny's on weekend with all their nice old cars.
Big J Okerson
Oh, the lowriders. Yeah.
Robert Kelly
Yo, we're gonna meet motherfucker.
Big J Okerson
Oh, the nl. The NLR Car club. That doesn't sound quite as bad as Nazi lowriders. Okay, so. So you didn't have to join either of those. You were able to just kind of be with the other whites. I would try to find the old guys who read and give advice to the young bucks.
Christine
You know, I'll say this, man. For the most part, people leave the old guys alone. Yeah, old dude. And nobody's victimized nobody because people there's, there's in a whole prison yard, there's a lot of guys that are like, that were like me, you know, I mean we're caught up in the dope and caught up in the doing to support our habit. But we weren't like evil, you know what I mean?
Big J Okerson
Sure.
Christine
That wanted to just hurt other people all day long. There is those, there's a few of them, but there's not as many of them as, you know, decent hearted people. So it's a, it's a trip. It's a complicated situation. Now those, those ones that can stir up the yard and cause riots, you know, the, the knucklehead ones. Sure. But. But for the most part it's kind of like people just stick to their own, do your own thing, stay out of other people's business and you know, just kind of.
Robert Kelly
Did you have a time? Did you ever sell like. Oh, were you in like a room with like bunk beds?
Christine
I, I done, I've been on minimum yards and I've been in, you know, yards with cells. I like the cells a lot better.
Big J Okerson
Yeah, I bet.
Robert Kelly
Did you ever walk in and have a selly where you're like, ah, fuck, this guy's gonna be a problem. Or all your cellies good. And I say cellies like, I've been in prison.
Big J Okerson
You were in boy prison?
Robert Kelly
I was in.
Christine
Not really. It was, you know, you get to know somebody and then you realize, yeah, I gotta get a cell change.
Big J Okerson
Danny, sounds like you're getaway driving a crime right now.
Robert Kelly
Just robbed about.
Big J Okerson
Sorry, guys, I'm getting away driving a bank robbery as we speak week now. Now that the question we all want to know. Danny, gay sex, is it happening non stop? No. Does it happen at all?
Christine
There's some, there is some. There's some gay people on the yard that we would call punks that they would, you know, enforce. Then sometimes some straight dudes or whatever would hook up with them and move them in their cell and all that. But, you know, whatever. A guy's doing life, right, who cares? But for the most part, no.
Big J Okerson
But it wasn't just like in the shower one day you owe a guy a couple bucks and he thinks the retaliation is your ass. I feel like it's going to be violence before that.
Christine
Yes.
Big J Okerson
Yeah.
Robert Kelly
So. So if you don't want to get fucked in the ass, you can fight your way out.
Big J Okerson
Yeah. No, I think what he's saying is no one's constantly trying to fuck your ass the way we're imagining.
Robert Kelly
So if a guy, if a guy's trying to fuck your ass and you're fighting, but then you're giving in and then you're fighting again, is that like a turn on? Is that a. Is that a wanted thing? In prison, do you still. Can you get, can you get respect where you're like, I tried to fight, but then he. Then I presented and then I tried to fight again?
Big J Okerson
No. You know, I hearken back to American history X again.
Robert Kelly
Nice.
Big J Okerson
When they, when the Nazis butt fucked Edward Norton in the shower, there was a conversation between. I believe it was a four man project. One, two, one for each limb. Three, four, five guys. So one guy told four other guys, he goes, hey, you guys wouldn't mind. I'm gonna fuck a guy in the ass in the shower. I need you to hold him down. And then, by the way, I don't know if you remember the scene. Bobby comes quick.
Robert Kelly
Why wouldn't you? It's probably a nice tight butt.
Big J Okerson
Yeah. I mean, Edward Norton was built in that movie.
Robert Kelly
Shredded.
Big J Okerson
If there was any time. Yeah.
Robert Kelly
It would take 25 minutes to come in our ass.
Big J Okerson
It would take so long to come in my ass. Unless you like Soft ladies. I think black guys would love me.
Robert Kelly
In prison do now do you have to shower with other men in prison? Is it one big open shower like that?
Christine
Yeah.
Robert Kelly
Okay, sometimes.
Christine
Sometimes they're. Sometimes they're single ones. But like you would just jump in with the homie just because you're trying to get a shower real quick and get back to yourself.
Robert Kelly
Oh, jumping with another guy in a single just to get it over with.
Christine
Wasn't any day about it.
Big J Okerson
Did everybody laugh at the people who had little wieners? No, no.
Christine
Majority of people.
Big J Okerson
Full on. Full on acceptance. Is it full on acceptance happening there? Because maybe this is a place I could go.
Christine
It is in fact, in fact, if a new homie rolls up on the yard and jumps in the shower with you and has a big strong, he gets compliments.
Big J Okerson
What a great place.
Christine
Stay away from my girlfriend.
Big J Okerson
Damn, man.
Robert Kelly
Now were they. Were there gay guys in there like Tracy Morgan in the longest yard where they dress like they were definitely gay wanted. They were the.
Christine
Yeah.
Big J Okerson
He. She's. Yeah.
Christine
They'd roll up their shirt and have shorts all in their crack and tuck their. And some of you looked. You're like, damn, looks like a woman.
Robert Kelly
They would make Daisy Dukes.
Christine
Been a few years, you know.
Robert Kelly
Wow.
Big J Okerson
And how fast do the guards get involved if someone was getting butt, do they have to go like, do they get involved or they just like finish up and let's get out of here?
Christine
Well, if it's a fight, they're gonna.
Big J Okerson
Come right away for fights. They'll come, but not a butt fuck.
Robert Kelly
God, man, what a.
Christine
Well, I would hope that if two people are willingly participating in that they wouldn't do it in front of.
Robert Kelly
So. So there's guys having sex with each other in jail, but quietly. It's. It's, you know, hey, we're gonna fuck tonight. And there. And you guys, you guys hear them banging.
Christine
I never heard it.
Big J Okerson
Oh, so you had to just jerk off the thoughts that sucks of it.
Christine
But I never heard it personally, I.
Big J Okerson
Bet you could smell it. Where do you jerk off, Danny? Where do you wet.
Robert Kelly
Does it smell like pennies? And where do you.
Big J Okerson
Copper, Danny, where do you jerk off in that son bitch right now?
Christine
Well, if you, if you're. If you got a cell, you get some. Get, take, take advantage of when you got cell time when your cell. He's out at work or he leaves to go to the yard, you stay in.
Big J Okerson
Oh, if you ever walking on somebody jerking off in jail, you got to give them the room back again. You come in, you Go. Oh, sorry, dude. You go. Sorry, dude. Finish your thing.
Robert Kelly
It's kind of what my son did this week on a vacation in Aruba. Yeah, he was like, I'm gonna go use the cell for a couple minutes.
Big J Okerson
Because my cellies are outside. Time to slam the ham.
Robert Kelly
Hey, did you ever get caught wanking.
Big J Okerson
It.
Christine
By a female guard? Once.
Robert Kelly
Wow.
Big J Okerson
Perfect.
Christine
I know, it's kind of a turn on.
Big J Okerson
Goddamn right.
Christine
It was kind of gave me a look and kept walking. I was like, okay, wow.
Big J Okerson
Did she give you a look like, nice piece or just like, what are you doing? Either one would work for me, by the way.
Christine
Yeah, yeah. What are you doing?
Big J Okerson
What are you doing? It's supposed to be like this and then she takes over. God, that would have been so much harder. That's exactly what he fantasized about, though. As soon as she walked away, he's like, let me help you with that. Was she hot or was she a big fat pig? It wouldn't matter when you're in jail.
Christine
She was decent.
Big J Okerson
That's what always happens to these poor, these poor fat, ugly prison guard ladies. These jacked and in shape and good looking prisoners make them think that they're worth something because they'll fuck anything while they're in jail. Then they help them escape and then they never see them again and they just ruin the prison guard's life. Did you any things like that? Anybody, a prisoner or something there that was like, shouldn't have. That seems to happen all the time.
Christine
I seen, I, I have seen a couple female correctional officers get escorted off the yard, but I think it might have been more for bringing in drugs, but it could have been that too.
Big J Okerson
In their holes.
Robert Kelly
But hey, Danny, Danny, doesn't everybody have to have. Hey, Dan, doesn't everybody have to have a thing in jail that you do? Don't you have to like, like, don't.
Big J Okerson
You have to like deserted island?
Robert Kelly
No, but like, you can't just be professor.
Big J Okerson
You can't do Star.
Robert Kelly
I got it. We got it. Don't you have to have like, like you, you're. You're selling drugs or moving something or do stuff for the gangs or do you, you can just do your time and not fuck with anybody in prison.
Big J Okerson
Skipper, the Farmers.
Robert Kelly
Yeah, you can.
Christine
All right, but you know, when you're young, when you're young, like I was, you're, like I said, you're part of, you're part of your San Diego homies. You're part of the, that, that group. And if that group ever, ever has problems with another group. Then you kind of have to show up, right? Or then. Or you get. You get Ixnade from the car, and then it's. Then it's no good.
Robert Kelly
Yeah. Well, we meet, me and Jay, and all of us are like that. Out front with Bennington show. They showed up today on 49th Street. We were like, yo, man.
Big J Okerson
Swept their lunches out of their hands.
Robert Kelly
They were like, yo, man, beat it.
Big J Okerson
48 over here, black girl. And I slapped his lunch tray down. Yeah. And then I. His ass right there on the sidewalk.
Robert Kelly
I was right next to him holding black girl's legs apart.
Big J Okerson
Yeah, he kept his own. He kept his own hands on the wall. I think a part of him liked it. Danny. Danny, you're clean and sober now.
Christine
Oh, no.
Robert Kelly
Oh, Jesus.
Big J Okerson
I'm sorry.
Christine
Oh, no. There you are.
Big J Okerson
Oh, you. Thought I said, are you clean and sober now?
Christine
Oh, yeah, Yeah. I don't do drugs.
Big J Okerson
Hell yeah. You learned your lesson. That's good.
Robert Kelly
How long you been out?
Christine
My own company. Been married 18 years. Since 2007.
Robert Kelly
2007. Now, do your kids know about your past?
Christine
I don't have any because I was too busy being in there to ever have any. And I'm glad I didn't because they'd probably present like their dad. But I have. My wife has three kids that are older and then grandkids. So I got a family going on, and it's fun.
Robert Kelly
Do they know about. Do the kids know?
Christine
Yeah, they know.
Big J Okerson
They probably think it's so cool.
Robert Kelly
They probably don't fuck around at all.
Big J Okerson
Yeah, because they think it's so cool. Until you inevitably murder their mother for drugs.
Robert Kelly
I'm gonna tell Max I was in real jail just to keep him in line.
Big J Okerson
No, dude, you were in boy jail. That'll resonate with him more now because he's a boy.
Robert Kelly
His boy jail.
Big J Okerson
Now you don't have any answers about man jail, Bobby. Then they call Uncle Danny for that.
Robert Kelly
Well, here's the thing. You don't, you know, you don't fuck somebody in boy jail because you're getting out in three months. You're just gay.
Big J Okerson
Yeah.
Robert Kelly
Yeah.
Big J Okerson
I mean, yeah.
Robert Kelly
You're like, I'm gonna suck your dick for cigarettes. It's like, well, you're getting out in a week. You could wait.
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Christine
I personally wasn't I didn't have any connections, but you can buy. Yeah, you can buy them because man.
Big J Okerson
If I was in prison I would say that's what I would do. I get hooked on drugs. Because I bet getting the drugs in jail and doing drugs in jail is such a great feeling because you really get to escape the shittiest thing for a little bit.
Robert Kelly
Yeah, but that's when you get into the sex. That's when you get into the getting fucked for the sex.
Big J Okerson
Well, once I'm whacked down the drugs, Bobby, then I'm a little more open to the gay sex.
Robert Kelly
That's true.
Big J Okerson
And before you know it, I'm running Nazi low Riders. That's right.
Robert Kelly
With your ass.
Big J Okerson
That's right. Just don't tell mam. Rosenberg that her little grandson, the baby that she helped raise, is the head of the Nazi lowriders. Yes. Black Louisiana, what's up? Shit, dude, get shot. You wanna get butt fucked? Mike from Atlanta has a fantastic question for Danny. I think it's in reference to what Bobby was talking about before, about not wiping your ass. Oh, does not wiping your ass protect you from getting butt fucked? It's called a brown out, I think in the jail biz. Are you familiar with this, Danny, where you don't wipe your ass to make sure you don't get aggressively snuck butt fucked?
Robert Kelly
That's what we call all the award shows.
Christine
I think the east coast is a whole nother story than the West Coast.
Big J Okerson
Nice. Whole nother story. Holy.
Robert Kelly
Well, I don't like that you're saying the east coast is just a bunch.
Big J Okerson
Of steers and queers over here. Yeah, that's it, dude. Just a bunch of butt blacks and Puerto Ricans in prison. Not out there in California. Dude. Nice weather. They're in a better mood.
Robert Kelly
It's a dry heat.
Big J Okerson
It is. It's got to be a better mood.
Robert Kelly
It's a dry heat.
Big J Okerson
Are you happy you were in California prison, Danny, versus say like a fucking Kansas or some shit? Or where's that place? Where's the place with Arizona where you make sure we're pink like a lady Sleep outside?
Christine
Yeah.
Big J Okerson
Sheriff Joe Arapayo.
Robert Kelly
Is that. Is that Arizona?
Big J Okerson
I think it's Arizona, yeah. He makes them sleep outside in the heat and wear pink like ladies. And then he walks around them like. He walks around like, like. What was that lady who. Just like those people who have like zoos that they're just like, no, I trust all these animals. And you're like, you know that rhinoceros can kill you with one move of its arm. It's like. But then he wouldn't do that to me. And then it happens to them inevitably. Fucking. Well, Danny, we're glad you're out. We glad you turn your life around.
Robert Kelly
Yeah. Glad you didn't get fucked.
Big J Okerson
But I'm glad you didn't have kids. But you still get to beat someone else's kids. I appreciate that. That's nice.
Christine
I didn't think. I didn't think I'd get through. This is pretty easy. I like. This is the first time I ever called a radio show.
Big J Okerson
Well, you're the only prisoner who listens to us. Thank you, Danny. I'm glad you didn't get your butt. I'm glad you have drugs.
Christine
Last year at the American Comedy Store. I'm still waiting to see Bobby, but I might catch you in a couple weeks.
Big J Okerson
I'm gonna be there in two weeks, buddy.
Robert Kelly
I was just there three weeks.
Christine
Comedy Store again.
Big J Okerson
Absolutely. American Comedy Company again. We'll go find someone to butt on the street. We'll take it.
Robert Kelly
Do me a favor. Take Jay's ass when you see him. Just take it a little bigger than me.
Christine
It might be a challenge.
Robert Kelly
Here's the thing, dude.
Big J Okerson
Nah, I'm not gonna fight.
Robert Kelly
Nah, he's not gonna fight. Push him up against a brick wall outside in an alley and just stick your hands down the back of his jeans, buddy.
Big J Okerson
The green room. The green room in American Comedy Company has a tabletop. Ms. Pac Man. I'll lay on that. And you just come in the little secret room and have me be safe, my man. And we'll talk to you soon. Thanks, Danny.
Christine
Take care.
Robert Kelly
Is it. Is it bad that I'm bummed out that there's not a lot of ass raping in prison?
Big J Okerson
That I thought, well, I mean, it's happening. I just thought there was. I thought there was. That gays have gotten so much braver now, just being loud and proud. Like, if you go to prison gay, there's a faction of guys waiting there for you that are also gay, that are like, you know, get over here, bitch. And then they all fucking gay off.
Robert Kelly
Together and they're shredded.
Big J Okerson
Right? This was probably more like in the 60s, 70s, where people weren't outwardly probably being closeted, some of that aggressive gay fucking, but now you could just. There's guys that are probably there waiting to be fucked.
Robert Kelly
So you think there's like this gay pride in prison?
Big J Okerson
Oh, yeah, yeah. They're really priding up. When I see gay pride thing the other day, I'm like, I don't think we need this.
Robert Kelly
It's Gay Pride month.
Big J Okerson
Yeah, but it was Gay Pride month. But it was something celebrating Gay Pride Month. Like, why, like, oh, was it when we went to the movies yesterday? We saw a movie yesterday and it was like, Cinemark celebrates Gay Pride Month. And it was just like a commercial of just like, guy, guy couples and girl girl couples. Like, but mostly guy guy couples. They always hear the most jarring ones and just talk about it. I'm like, why is this a thing? And are we eventually gonna not have Gay Pride Month? Will it eventually go into the ether because it's so normal?
Robert Kelly
Well, I mean, I think it's there now. Even the Gay Pride parade is just a fucking parade. It's not a. It used to be.
Big J Okerson
No, it's a wild. It's a moving sex orgy coming down Fifth Street. Hide your children.
Robert Kelly
I didn't say it was a hot parade. It's a fucking hot parade because DJ.
Big J Okerson
Lou goes every year and he's the fucking. I believe he's the grand marshal this year.
Robert Kelly
I've been to a bunch, and they're all horrific.
Big J Okerson
No, get away from me.
Robert Kelly
But why do you go if you think they're horrific?
Big J Okerson
I was forced to go sexist sex dude.
Robert Kelly
With who?
Big J Okerson
My ex.
Robert Kelly
And I was also forced to go to Fire Island a few times. So that do your gay days are over now. Yeah. Wow.
Big J Okerson
You got enough, though, when you were on the inside, right? It was like prison. You had to get butt fucked a little bit.
Robert Kelly
Yeah. Is that where you got that bracelet? Did the Gay Pride people give you that bracelet? No, this is from my little nephew. I'm talking about the other one.
Big J Okerson
That's also. Tell your little nephew. Tell your little nephew to make bigger bracelets. They're too tight. Hey, tell your little nephew he's a stupid idiot who didn't make a bracelet. Right.
Robert Kelly
We went fast, though. We went from, you know, seeing a Ellen kiss on TV with the world erupted. Sure to nobody gives. I mean, there's gays in every single show. There's gays in everything now.
Big J Okerson
Yeah, but it's almost what I'm saying, like the, like. Because gay Pride, it's celebrating literally the sex part of it.
Robert Kelly
The fucking part.
Big J Okerson
Well, that's what. That's what makes somebody gay is their attraction and sexual attraction to same sex. So you're celebrating that. It's a weird thing. It would be like celebrating gay or straight sex.
Danny
Well, yeah, I think it's more about celebrating the rights. It's like, it started as a riot, and that's where it all stemmed out of.
Big J Okerson
Oh, now we're taking pride in riots. Christine, I knew you were A fucking homo.
Danny
I am a homo as a riot. Stonewall in. That's the whole thing.
Robert Kelly
What?
Big J Okerson
The ride at Stonewall Inn.
Danny
Harass the guys. Like the cops would go in and harass the gay guys for being gay. And one day they fought back.
Big J Okerson
All right, gay. Stop being so gay in this gay place.
Robert Kelly
Take that cop uniform off.
Big J Okerson
They have nothing hotter than a cop coming in to break up your gay club. He hates us. That's so horny.
Robert Kelly
Goddamn gays kept me wearing cop uniforms.
Big J Okerson
All right, guys, seriously though, break it up. Okay? All right. This is my jam. But seriously, you guys gotta hold up. Stop taking my Jay. Stop taking my belt off.
Robert Kelly
Stop. You're doing it again.
Big J Okerson
Lost in it. Oh, guys, I'm here. I'm here.
Robert Kelly
Someone's gonna go, I'm here.
Big J Okerson
I'm queer.
Robert Kelly
We need somebody going to get Jay again.
Big J Okerson
I'm Officer Queen.
Robert Kelly
Somebody to go get Jay. Jay's dancing officer.
Big J Okerson
Officer Gabo in the house. Who wants to spin my gun?
Robert Kelly
Can I just say something?
Big J Okerson
And then. And then homosexuality was born. That was the story of the Stonewall Inn. That's my one man show called Stonewall in riot today. It's a laugh riot.
Robert Kelly
So they did. They did the Stonewall.
Big J Okerson
There's a preview audience. So we're in preview still.
Robert Kelly
Did they do. So they did that and then they started the parade.
Danny
I don't know when exactly the parade started, but it was all stemmed out.
Robert Kelly
But now I think it's.
Big J Okerson
Once the gays found out that under the guise of parade you can outwardly on the streets on floats. I think that the next day I believe the parade started.
Robert Kelly
I've never been to the gay parade. They really on a float.
Big J Okerson
They said if you're on a float.
Danny
It did start the next year.
Robert Kelly
Are they real? I'm sorry, Are they really on. Are they really doing sexual acts out on a parade? I've never been.
Danny
No, they're not fucking on the floats. But it's really.
Big J Okerson
I bet it's happened.
Danny
I bet it has happened.
Big J Okerson
Absolutely. Bet someone is. Someone underneath the float who's driving a little car or something has been getting their dicks. Absolutely it is. Listen, you remember Wayne Rada? The thing that he always said. Still, that is one of my top five funniest things that made me laugh. I asked if him and his boyfriend were going to the Pride parade and he goes, no, me and Ray love each other. We don't have to walk around in buttless chaps to prove it. And that's sort of. And by the way, I'm making a joke, obviously, because there's a bunch of these things that are. Everyone's dressed appropriately. It's like gay firefighters and stuff. But right behind that is, like, Max's Bar and Grill. And it's just like Tranny's Helicopter in their dicks.
Robert Kelly
Do they really have their packers out?
Big J Okerson
No, they're in now. It's also become other guys. You can't see them because they're buried in butts. You see?
Robert Kelly
No way, dude.
Big J Okerson
Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I bet you there is outdoor gay sex every Pride parade. Several times.
Danny
100%.
Big J Okerson
Yeah, several times.
Danny
Is there sex at the Puerto Rican Day Parade, too?
Big J Okerson
That's against their will. Those are rapes.
Robert Kelly
Yeah, those are called rapes.
Big J Okerson
Damn it, Christine.
Danny
Just good old fun gay sex, guys.
Robert Kelly
Do you remember?
Big J Okerson
Oh, yeah. No one's getting raped. No one's getting raped. A gay pride.
Robert Kelly
You know, New York was so simple when the Puerto Rican Day Parade, rapes were the only thing we really had to worry about. Like, once a year, you'd be like, I got to stay in today. And that was the only.
Big J Okerson
Now it's, you know, you got to worry about your Max going out to get a fucking soda on the corner. Ended up covered in rainbow lipstick on his wiener.
Robert Kelly
Yeah. If you order a bagel, you get fucking lit on fire.
Big J Okerson
Now, I will say this. I would guess Lou. And the problem was you went. DJ Lou. You went with a girlfriend to this thing. You were dragged there. If you went.
Robert Kelly
Wait a minute. Dragged?
Big J Okerson
He got dragged there.
Robert Kelly
Yeah, I get it.
Big J Okerson
Cat eye makeup.
Danny
He was supposed to meet me and didn't come. And poor Tom had to drink all his beers by himself.
Big J Okerson
Well, yeah. Cool. It turns out Lou came early, so whenever you come, you realize, what am I doing to get the Pride Parade? Oh, that's right. I don't even like this. Let me get out of here. If you go as a straight guy and go alone and hang out on that route with real supportive gay pride shit.
Robert Kelly
On the gay route.
Big J Okerson
On the gay route, you could definitely pull pretty hot, because there's a lot of hot chicks that are straight or bisexual who go to this thing for the party of it. So if you go and just be like, God, this is so great. They're so great that gay people are finally getting the thing. You could probably get your dick sucked by some hot chicks and hook up. Would you say that, Louis? A lot of hot chicks there.
Robert Kelly
It's very sexually charged, but.
Big J Okerson
Right. I'm saying they're so horned up that if you pretend that you overly give a shit about gay rights.
Robert Kelly
It's easy.
Big J Okerson
You might get pussy there. Yes. Yeah.
Robert Kelly
If you can hang in there long enough. But it is too much.
Big J Okerson
I really. I do care about gay. I hope gays have all their rights, but not enough to go watch guys have sex on floats.
Robert Kelly
There's a lot of ugly women at this parade.
Big J Okerson
Absolutely.
Robert Kelly
I mean, there's a.
Big J Okerson
But I like to believe that all the fat ones are lesbians.
Danny
These corporations are all like, buying buses and stuff now. And it's just like the employees are walking with them. Like, I don't know if it's like they. All the gay employees from the company or it's the.
Big J Okerson
Let me tell you something. Those are all Starbucks employees we're watching in this parade right now. And it's the ugliest people I've ever seen. Where I always find there's always pretty cute chicks working in a Starbucks. So I will say this is their gay. These are their gays that work there. Starbucks gays.
Robert Kelly
That was. What's his name? What's her name's brother who on that float who's a chick who dated Pete Davidson.
Danny
Oh, Ariana Grande.
Robert Kelly
That's Ariana Grande's brother. The guy that was on the float before that.
Big J Okerson
That. Was that true?
Robert Kelly
Yeah, I know that because he's. He was on Henry Danger and I was a big fan of Henry Danger.
Danny
He's a gay icon.
Robert Kelly
He is.
Big J Okerson
Okay.
Robert Kelly
He is gay.
Big J Okerson
What's his name?
Danny
Frank something Grande.
Big J Okerson
Is that Frank Grande?
Robert Kelly
Yeah. He is gay.
Big J Okerson
Yeah. Yeah.
Robert Kelly
Even real gay. He was the first gay Max went. That guy's gay.
Big J Okerson
Is that guy wearing a Legion of Skank shirt?
Robert Kelly
Don't you have a Gay Legion of Skanks hoodie?
Big J Okerson
Yes.
Robert Kelly
Yeah.
Big J Okerson
A pride hoodie for sure. What is ever. Absolutely. We've made a game.
Danny
No, no, it's not a skank slide.
Big J Okerson
Oh, no, I know.
Danny
Yeah. I think I kept the pride one.
Big J Okerson
Oh, look at that. That guy's a sailor.
Robert Kelly
I don't know if he's a sailor.
Big J Okerson
Oh, okay. All right. My bad. Sorry. We're just watching some pride parade over here. If you guys aren't following home watching Pride Parade. Look at all that pride.
Robert Kelly
Yeah, there he is right there.
Big J Okerson
Oh, look, that guy's face is covered in pride. He's covered in that other guy's pride. And I think there was some pride left over from some guy last night. So funny. I watched the trailer for Gerard Carmichael's new special, and it is funny. Like, the. Like, the guys really had like a Two halves of a career. Like the half that's not gay. And now it's all about being gay.
Robert Kelly
Is that what it is now?
Big J Okerson
Yeah. The new trailer is talking about his boyfriend.
Robert Kelly
What's he wearing? Something fur.
Big J Okerson
Very stylish.
Robert Kelly
Yeah.
Big J Okerson
Gay.
Robert Kelly
Must be freeing for a guy to come out and just be like, all right, now I get to wear what I want to wear.
Big J Okerson
Well, to come out and already be fucking famous is huge because now you're getting top, top tier dick. Although in that show, remember, he wanted to Tyler the creator, who was not interested.
Robert Kelly
Yeah.
Danny
Well, it's also like, I mean, he's not that famous for a black sitcom star.
Robert Kelly
The creator, he's not that famous to turn a guy gay.
Big J Okerson
No. Tyler creator, I think does pretty gay.
Robert Kelly
Is he gay too?
Big J Okerson
I mean, he's definitely not straight. Right. Am I right about that?
Robert Kelly
Black us up, Lou.
Big J Okerson
He's never confirmed it, but he. I feel like he is gay. Maybe full on gay. Yeah.
Robert Kelly
Everybody in music now in hip hop and is gay.
Big J Okerson
Well, Wendy Williams, if you believe the queen, will tell you that they've all been gay since the very, very beginning.
Robert Kelly
I mean, it's coming. I mean, to fruition. Right.
Big J Okerson
But isn't it starting to seem like the great. And I'm not gonna say he's a sage wise savant, but I believe Corey Holcomb's saying, if you're involved in big time show business, you're gay. You've gotten in the ass.
Robert Kelly
Yeah.
Big J Okerson
You've been inside of a man before.
Robert Kelly
I think that's true.
Big J Okerson
I don't know if it's true, but I think it may be. Listen, why would Wendy Williams say everybody has done gay now? Listen, it can't be true. I don't want to believe this. Method Man. I don't think so. But also, keep in mind, like almost a 2. Remember the Tupac ruse that everyone kind of figured out through time that he's gay? Well, it's like, you know. Well, no. By the time he was at his most popular, he'd gone to jail. Thug life. He had done the movie Juice and then started living his life like that, like Bishop, like the character. And started getting into a bunch of trouble and being. But you forget, this is like an art kid who was a dancer. He went to school for dance and poetry and shit. Yeah. That's always the thing. They always say, he's like. He seems so gay in this interview. I don't even know if I've ever felt that he was gay. They show this interview a lot.
Robert Kelly
Yeah.
Big J Okerson
And everything seems gay. But he's so boyishly. He's like a pleasant kid.
Robert Kelly
He is gay in this video.
Danny
He's not a gangster.
Robert Kelly
Buddy, listen to his. If you listen to him talk, he is gay.
Big J Okerson
I like to do my super silly raps.
Danny
Well, isn't he at art school with.
Big J Okerson
What'S her face, Jada Pinkett? Yeah, that's right.
Robert Kelly
And she's gay.
Big J Okerson
And they both went bald.
Robert Kelly
And then Will's gay and everybody's gay. Everybody is gay.
Big J Okerson
It's possible.
Robert Kelly
Yeah. That's why we've never made it. We never made it beyond.
Big J Okerson
Wendy Williams made it. Telling people who are gay. So why don't we start telling who is gay out there?
Robert Kelly
I think it'd be easy just to be gay.
Big J Okerson
I was with Shane this weekend. Gay.
Robert Kelly
Is he gay?
Big J Okerson
It's crazy how gay. Non stop gay.
Robert Kelly
Jesus.
Big J Okerson
I stay outside the whole time because I won't be a part of it.
Robert Kelly
Well, so it's only inside gay. It's not outside gay.
Big J Okerson
Inside in. There's these rooms afterwards where people come after the show and it just gets gay. So I go outside and smoke cigarettes.
Robert Kelly
Is there food? Is that where the food is?
Big J Okerson
There is food, but a lot of times I don't eat the food.
Robert Kelly
Yeah.
Big J Okerson
Because I don't want to go in the room with all the gay. Yeah, that's what I tell myself because I'm so bad at meeting people. That's funny because, buddy, I whiffed pretty good this weekend.
Robert Kelly
Being gay.
Big J Okerson
No. Well, no. I try to not. I try to overly not to be gay in these situations. And then in a panic moment, I'm wildly gay and I blow it huge.
Robert Kelly
What do you mean?
Big J Okerson
So we did the show in Omaha. First night we were in Iowa. Next night, Des Moines, Iowa, home of Slipknot, by the way. Spit it out. We were in Iowa and we did the show and at the. They didn't see me at all. Well, first thing that happened was we got. It was like through Christine. The person who does hotels or something for Skank Festival was doing Comic Con out there. And he goes, the guy that plays Daredevil wants to come to the show.
Robert Kelly
The TV show?
Big J Okerson
Yeah. Okay, Daredevil.
Robert Kelly
Well, there's two Daredevils. There's the movie.
Big J Okerson
Do you think it was Ben Affleck? Yeah. You think I wouldn't have said Ben Affleck's coming?
Robert Kelly
I don't know. You might have been trying to be a little mysterious.
Big J Okerson
Okay.
Robert Kelly
You might have been like the guy who plays. And I'd be Like, oh.
Big J Okerson
And then I go and I think it's the guy from tv. In walks Ben Affleck.
Robert Kelly
Yeah. You could have went that way.
Big J Okerson
I'm sorry.
Robert Kelly
It's okay.
Big J Okerson
No, I'm sorry.
Robert Kelly
No, it's okay.
Big J Okerson
Well, anyway, Charlie Cox. So he English correct. Didn't see that coming. But very. And also in talking to him for a good seven minutes, not sure if he's blind in real life or not still.
Robert Kelly
He is.
Big J Okerson
Is he? No, I don't know if he is.
Robert Kelly
How's he going to read the script?
Big J Okerson
I don't.
Robert Kelly
Braille.
Big J Okerson
Do you think no blind person's ever been in something before?
Robert Kelly
No, they don't. Dude, you don't know that. That's against SAG and after Rules.
Big J Okerson
By the way, you answered your question with a joke. That was the real answer. How's he read the script? Braille.
Robert Kelly
Yeah, I know.
Big J Okerson
Probably sometimes you throw these jokes out.
Robert Kelly
There and they don't land.
Big J Okerson
Jay, he might be blind.
Robert Kelly
What am I blind?
Danny
Not blind.
Big J Okerson
He's not blind. No, he's not.
Robert Kelly
He's not blind.
Big J Okerson
Well, every picture he sort of looks like he could be blind.
Danny
He's just used to looking blind.
Big J Okerson
Maybe, but he's very nice guy. But they will.
Robert Kelly
He fucking really does.
Big J Okerson
He looks blind and everything.
Robert Kelly
Wide eyed.
Big J Okerson
I told you. I just spoke this guy for seven straight minutes. Not sure if he wasn't blind. He left that night. Until this moment confirmed by the Internet is now I know he's not blind.
Robert Kelly
He's not blind.
Big J Okerson
Very nice guy.
Robert Kelly
Small, right? Petite.
Big J Okerson
No, not petite.
Robert Kelly
Not muscular though. Not like big superhero.
Big J Okerson
No, no, no. Yeah, but he was. So they came in the beginning of the show and went to go watch the show. I guess afterwards he stopped in and said hi. What was really funny about that was again, it's always perspective of what you know. I love the show Daredevil. I've watched all the seasons on Netflix and I watched the new one. I thought it was great.
Robert Kelly
It's great.
Big J Okerson
The new one particularly was great.
Robert Kelly
The new one was probably the best. Yeah, it was real violent.
Big J Okerson
Yeah. D' Onofrio.
Robert Kelly
D' Onofrio and Punisher.
Big J Okerson
Punisher came back. It was really good.
Robert Kelly
Can't remember his name. What is his name?
Big J Okerson
Who?
Robert Kelly
Punisher.
Big J Okerson
Oh, the guy. John Barenthal.
Robert Kelly
He's the fucking best.
Big J Okerson
Yeah, he's great. So first of all whiffed in that interaction because I did say new season was great, man. And then I said, what a comeback? What implying? Well, because it got canceled from Netflix and then picked up by Disney?
Robert Kelly
Yeah.
Big J Okerson
I said, I don't know. Isn't that a weird way to put it? What a comeback. It makes it seem like I'm acknowledging the show fell to pieces at one point. That was a weird way to say it.
Robert Kelly
How are you gonna say it?
Big J Okerson
I should have just said, great, new season, and stop there. Yep, I keep talking.
Robert Kelly
Yep.
Big J Okerson
So come back. So then I remember seeing Shane. I go, hey, they're gonna come back after the show. But I saw him out there. I go, the guy who plays Daredevil's here. I go, he's here with the guy who does the hotel reservations for Skank Fest. But he does Comic Con, I guess, too. And he brought Daredevil two or three times. I said that, you know, the guy who plays Daredevil is coming and changes eventually. He goes, I've never seen Daredevil, dude. I don't. It doesn't mean anything to me.
Robert Kelly
Wow.
Big J Okerson
It doesn't hold me with him. And then the rest of the night. The rest of the night, the whole joke kept becoming just me coming around the corner going like, daredevil's here. He's already sent. He's texted me three times pictures of Daredevil and says, daredevil's here.
Robert Kelly
That's so funny.
Big J Okerson
So then at the end of the show, towards the end of the show, I should say, I'm sitting outside smoking. Shane's got about 10 seconds.
Robert Kelly
The chick that's in True Blood is here. Dude, what the fuck? Huh?
Big J Okerson
I watched True Blood and we know you did. I did. Werewolves, vampires. Why would I not watch that? There's also shape shifters there, and everyone wants to have sex with that girl with a big gap tooth.
Robert Kelly
Don't forget about the fairies, you fairy.
Big J Okerson
There's also fairies. She was a fairy. Oh, that's why she was a fairy. Oh, God, what a show. So what? Why are they in that show? Now I got to care about Jacob versus Team Robert. Was it Team Jacob and Team Twilight? Yeah. What is it? What's the guy. What's the boy's name? Edward. Team Edward and Team Jacob.
Robert Kelly
He looked around the room. Even Christine didn't know what you're talking about.
Big J Okerson
I saw three of them in the theater.
Robert Kelly
Oh, my God.
Big J Okerson
I had a child and she saw one of them with me. Okay. What?
Danny
Jay loves vampires.
Big J Okerson
J love vampires. I want to be a vampire boy.
Robert Kelly
Imagine you dress like Blade, one of Blade's henchmen.
Big J Okerson
I'm just going to get killed by a blade in a party scene.
Robert Kelly
You're the guy that gets killed in the middle of the movie.
Big J Okerson
So I was outside smoking. 10 minutes left of the show. And who shows up? Not from the show. They haven't been there for the whole show. It is, and you'll get this right when I say the names. Black Lou, but Sidney Brown, Cooper DeJean, the two cornerbacks for the Philadelphia Eagles.
Robert Kelly
Okay.
Big J Okerson
Cooper De Jean is the one. Remember, he turned 22 at the Super Bowl. And he got the pick six, the interception for a touchdown.
Robert Kelly
Yeah.
Big J Okerson
Crazy. He walks in. I see them both walk in. I acknowledge them both, but I give just, like a head nod. What, to them both when they go in? Well, they go into the arena.
Robert Kelly
Yeah, Yeah.
Big J Okerson
I was sitting on a, like, you know, a bench. So I was like. I was like, oh, hey, guys.
Robert Kelly
You've already went up.
Big J Okerson
Yep.
Robert Kelly
Oh, okay. So you have no.
Big J Okerson
Nothing.
Robert Kelly
Yeah, you have nothing. You have no juice.
Big J Okerson
No juice.
Robert Kelly
Yeah. You're just a guy.
Big J Okerson
So I go in for the. Shane's last few minutes, and I'm watching those guys, like, wait there for him to get off stage in the same area I'm at. And they. And so Shane gets off stage. He comes in, he's talking to them. We all go back in the green room, the big green room. And I'm talk. He introduces me to them. You know, I shake hands with him, the two of them. And then, you know, we made some joke about Daredevil being here, too. And then he goes. He goes, I haven't watched the new season. Sidney Brown said that. So I was like, oh, it's good. He was like, oh, yeah. He goes. I remember. He goes, didn't I meet you in Philly? He did see me at the Philly show. And I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cooper De Jean is just sitting there. And I go, all right. And then, I don't know, a gate opens somewhere and like, 40 more people come in the green room. And there was a celebrity softball game in town, is why these guys are all here. So a bunch of players from the Broncos and stuff come in. Livingston. I want to say a player. He's a player on the Broncos. Comes over. Couldn't be friendlier. So he's a big fan of me. Shaking hands with me. He's so nice. And then he. Then he goes. And fucking. They start all kind of having a conversation.
Robert Kelly
He was a big fan of Daredevil, too.
Big J Okerson
No, he did not say that. I dip out of the room and I leave. And I go outside, just start smoking my cigarettes again. I talk on the phone with Fenoia for a while. Christine a little bit, just killing time. And I'm waiting for a long time. We're flying back that night still, but we're not leaving there till like 11:30, shows over about 10:15. So I'm outside for a good hour just smoking cigarettes. And then I'm like, oh, I see a few people start trickling out outside. So I'm like, oh, I guess it's winding down in there a little bit. And there's my moment. Cooper De Jean, Sidney Brown walk out to go to their car. Now they've been introduced to me and Sidney Brown sort of remembers me. This is the interaction. Sidney Brown starts walking out and I go, I go, hey man, have a great year. And he goes, huh? And I went, you guys have a great year. I go, I'm not gonna. Then Cooper De Jean's looking at me, but they're walking away while it's. And this is how the sentence trailed to them. I go, I'm not gonna come this year. Cause I came last year. The only game I went to last year super bowl was the Atlanta Monday night. When they, when you go, okay, they were gone. I panicked, dude. I tried to get it all out at once. Out of the Eagles fly. I'm teary eyed, almost as hell, embarrassed. I'm so bad at it, dude. I'm so bad at it. I don't know what to do.
Robert Kelly
I had to take my headphones off because I couldn't listen to the rest of it. Jay, how are you so cool in here at Skank Fest on stage? I saw the picture of you. You sit down in front of thousands of people and you turn into a fucking cheddar in front of what's the shredule?
Danny
I love it.
Robert Kelly
In front of fucking sports guys, dude, you just performed solo sitting down in front of arena full of people. You're the star.
Big J Okerson
I almost told him I was gonna because like everyone's saying, they're like, dude, just go talk to him. I go, what am I gonna say? Hey, 22 year old boy, I'm gonna go down on opening day and get cheesesteaks and your jersey and then I'm gonna wear it like I'm your girlfriend.
Robert Kelly
Well, you could not.
Big J Okerson
I'm wearing your name on my back. You could not say that, right, but I'm going to.
Robert Kelly
But you could also walk up and go, hey, what's up man? I'm, I'm Big J Okerson. I did the show tonight. I'm. I'm on the blah, blah, blah. Oh yeah, cool, man. What's up? Hey, man. Nothing.
Big J Okerson
Big Eagles fan, dude.
Robert Kelly
Big Eagles fan. What's up, dude? How you doing, man? How's it going? You see the chain yet?
Big J Okerson
Just inform them that I was not going to come to a game this year because I am the mush for the it was. And they didn't stop to finish hearing me. They eventually, while I was talking, both turned their heads to continue walking away, and they knew I was in the middle of talking. They were just like, oh. They were all like, all right. What?
Robert Kelly
Because.
Big J Okerson
And I bet when they turned around, they looked at each other and did like a Jeez. Yeah, it sucked because you turned into.
Robert Kelly
An F A N.
Big J Okerson
An F, a N, N I T. A real fan.
Danny
Yeah, just football, though. He told me he had a J.
Big J Okerson
Lo.
Robert Kelly
A real orange peel fan.
Big J Okerson
We got to take a break. I just want to make sure. Yeah.
Robert Kelly
Wow.
Big J Okerson
Hang on. Black was giving us Jacobs double cum shot. Double load to the face. That must mean it's time for commercial. Bobby Kelly's going to be at that dojo of comedy in Mars Plains, New Jersey, June 6 and 7. That's this fucking weekend, everybody. After that, he's going to be in Portland, Maine, Rochester, New York, all on deck for tickets. And all tour dates go to Punch up Live.
Robert Kelly
Robert Kelly and Big J is going to be this weekend governors in Levittown, New York, Friday and Saturday night. After that, he's going to be in San Diego, taking it in an alley up the button by the prisoners. If you're a prisoner, go down, get down now. If you're any prisoner.
Big J Okerson
Oh, any prisoner, just get out of prison. I need you to be there.
Robert Kelly
Jay's giving.
Big J Okerson
I need you to be there and hold my hand while I get tagged in the ass in an alley.
Robert Kelly
All you got to do is bring a pack of cigarettes and some weed. You get free JS Charlotte, Tacoma for tickets and all the tour dates.
Big J Okerson
I'm not confrontational. I might say no. I might not say no.
Robert Kelly
Go to Big J. You are not.
Big J Okerson
If you go, dude, I brought you cigarettes. I'll go.
Robert Kelly
All right.
Big J Okerson
Yeah, it is true. All right. Just a little bit. For a little bit.
Robert Kelly
Bigjcomedy. Com. Make sure you check out our podcast and go to our YouTube page and check that out. We'll be right back. It's a boss.
Episode Summary: "Boy Jail" The Bonfire with Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly | Release Date: June 10, 2025
In the "Boy Jail" episode of The Bonfire with Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly, hosts Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly delve into the gritty and often humorous aspects of prison life, particularly focusing on the sexual dynamics and social hierarchies within male correctional facilities. Joined by caller Danny, who shares his firsthand experiences from his time in prison, the hosts navigate through sensitive topics with their trademark blunt humor and unfiltered honesty.
The episode kicks off with a caller, Danny, sharing his experiences in prison, offering listeners an inside look into the complexities of inmate interactions and survival strategies.
A significant portion of the discussion centers around the prevalence of sexual abuse and the mechanisms inmates use to protect themselves or assert dominance.
Navigating Sexual Assault:
Deterrence Tactics:
The hosts and Danny explore how race and gang affiliations impact inmate experiences, including protection and victimization.
Gang Influence:
Racial Segregation:
The conversation shifts towards the evolution of Gay Pride, both inside and outside prison walls, and its portrayal in media and public events.
Gay Pride in Prison:
Public Perceptions and Media:
Throughout the episode, the hosts intersperse serious discussions with humorous anecdotes and playful banter, keeping the tone light despite the heavy subject matter.
Celebrity Interactions:
Humorous Takes on Serious Topics:
As the episode wraps up, the hosts encourage listeners to engage with the show, share their own experiences, and tune into upcoming live shows and events.
Big Jay Oakerson:
Robert Kelly:
Danny (Caller):
In "Boy Jail," Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly tackle the harsh realities of prison life with their signature blend of humor and candor. Through Danny's candid recounting of his experiences, listeners gain insight into the intricate social structures, the prevalence of sexual violence, and the coping mechanisms inmates employ. The episode not only highlights the challenges faced by prisoners but also underscores the importance of understanding and addressing these issues with both empathy and a touch of humor.
Note: The hosts' discussions include sensitive and potentially triggering topics related to sexual violence and abuse in prison settings. Listener discretion is advised.