Cradle Of Love with Billy Idol

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Bonfire with Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly Episode: Cradle Of Love with Billy Idol
Release Date: April 11, 2025
Channel: SiriusXM’s Faction Talk, Channel 103

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Introduction

In this episode of The Bonfire, hosts Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly welcome the legendary rock icon Billy Idol to discuss his illustrious career, new music, and experiences in the entertainment industry. The conversation is candid, humorous, and offers fans an intimate glimpse into Billy Idol's life both on and off the stage.

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Guest Introduction and Early Career

[41:42] Big Jay Oakerson: "I was born in 1970. You, I was a big fan of yours my whole life."

Big Jay expresses his admiration for Billy Idol, highlighting Idol's enduring presence in the music scene. Billy responds by sharing his early days in New York and his transition from the band Generation X to a solo career.

[42:16] Billy Idol: "I love New York. It's fantastic. Especially that time period was incredible time to be in New York."

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Billy Idol’s Music and New Album

The hosts delve into Billy Idol's latest work, particularly his first full-length album in over a decade, Dream Into It, set for release on April 25th via Dark Horse Records.

[44:23] Billy Idol: "I really like this music we're making. We didn't try to redesign my music or anything. It's playing to our strengths."

Billy emphasizes staying true to his musical roots while introducing fresh elements to his new album. Big Jay commends the album's ability to blend punk influences with mainstream appeal.

[45:24] Billy Idol: "We've got to make an album that somehow we play to our strengths. We don't redesign what we do."

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Live Performances and Touring

The discussion shifts to live performances, with Billy Idol highlighting the exhilarating experience of touring and performing live.

[47:40] Billy Idol: "It's a lot of fun. It's a high you can get every night... the rock and rol experience."

Robert and Big Jay share anecdotes from their own experiences attending Billy Idol’s concerts, emphasizing the energy and passion he brings to the stage.

[47:25] Big Jay Oakerson: "We saw when you were co-headlining with Bryan Adams with Jones Beach a couple years back and it was fantastic."

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Personal Stories and Behind-the-Scenes Insights

Billy Idol opens up about his interactions with directors and challenges faced during his career, including his audition for Terminator 2 and his iconic music videos.

[52:16] Billy Idol: "The chance to get in the movie was I was going to be Michael Madsen's part, but the motorcycle accident..."

He shares the creative process behind his music videos, particularly the one for "Cradle of Love," directed by David Fincher.

[53:15] Billy Idol: "David Fincher was a genius director. He had that great idea..."

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Influences and Legacy

The conversation touches on Billy Idol's influences, such as the Sex Pistols and David Bowie, and how these inspirations shaped his music and persona.

[59:39] Billy Idol: "We were just into that scene. Velvet Underground, David Bowie, Iggy Pop..."

Billy reflects on his 50-year career, expressing gratitude for his longevity in the music industry and his plans to continue making impactful music.

[61:46] Billy Idol: "We've been watching that and dreaming into that, if you know what I mean."

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Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nomination

Billy Idol discusses his recent nomination for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, an acknowledgment of his significant contributions to the music world.

[62:25] Robert Kelly: "Billy's nominated for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Far, long overdue."

Billy expresses humility and excitement about the nomination, emphasizing the collaborative effort with his guitarist Steve Stevens.

[62:39] Billy Idol: "You've got Joan J. Alison, Marta. It's all females. It's great."

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Closing Remarks

As the episode wraps up, hosts Big Jay and Robert encourage listeners to support Billy Idol's new album and upcoming performances. The hosts share final anecdotes and express their ongoing admiration for Billy Idol's work and influence.

[63:06] Big Jay Oakerson: "Billy Idol, by the way, Dream into, it's the first full-length album in over a decade..."

[63:17] Big Jay Oakerson: "Earn a business degree on your terms at Capella University..."

Note: The timestamps correspond to notable moments within the podcast transcript.

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Notable Quotes

• Billy Idol on Staying True to His Music:

  "[44:23] Billy Idol: 'We've got to make an album that somehow we play to our strengths. We don't redesign what we do.'"

• Big Jay on Concert Experiences:

  "[47:25] Big Jay Oakerson: 'We saw when you were co-headlining with Bryan Adams with Jones Beach a couple years back and it was fantastic.'"

• Billy Idol on Influences:

  "[59:39] Billy Idol: 'We were just into that scene. Velvet Underground, David Bowie, Iggy Pop...'"

• Billy Idol on Rock and Roll Hall of Fame:

  "[62:25] Billy Idol: 'It's what music to my ears.'"

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Conclusion

This episode of The Bonfire offers a comprehensive and engaging look into Billy Idol's musical journey, his enduring passion for rock and roll, and his strategies for staying relevant in the evolving music landscape. Through humorous exchanges and insightful discussions, Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly create a relaxed atmosphere that allows Billy Idol to share both professional insights and personal anecdotes, making it a must-listen for fans of rock music and those interested in the dynamics of the entertainment industry.

Transcript

[Robert Kelly]

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[Big Jay Oakerson]

And now the bonfire with Big J. Okerson and Robert Kelly. You put your headphones on wrong. Ha ha ha.

[Robert Kelly]

I don't know. I don't know what's wrong or right. Is this cord on the left?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That's the way it's supposed to be.

[Robert Kelly]

Sorry.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Well, one says left and one says right. See that one? See the L? Right there. Right there.

[Robert Kelly]

Stop saying right there.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It's right there.

[Robert Kelly]

Where?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Right there.

[Robert Kelly]

Where is it?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Don't you hate when people do that? It's right there.

[Robert Kelly]

And it's right there. They're pointing at something that couldn't possibly be pointed to.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It's over there.

[Robert Kelly]

What do you mean there?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It's right over there. What's up?

[Robert Kelly]

What's up? It's my first spank song. I'm going to tell him that when he comes in.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You jerked off to this song.

[Robert Kelly]

The video. I know. We have to ask him about that video.

[Christine]

She's insanely hot.

[Robert Kelly]

Let's make the whole interview about the video. Girl, it is the Bonfire Faction Talk Series XM103. Big Jokerson sitting with the great Robert Kelly, as always.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Hi, buddy.

[Robert Kelly]

You wrote a cheat sheet?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No, it's not a cheat sheet. We have to get better at interviewing, of course.

[Robert Kelly]

So I much I wasn't on it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Well, don't call It a cheat sheet. Because I've been called a cheater a lot in my life, okay? I've cheated a lot in my life. I wrote a book on it. I don't know if you've heard about it. I have ptsd. When someone says you're a cheater. I just see Don with my laptop, my iPhone, my iPhone. You motherfucker.

[Robert Kelly]

There's some video recently where, like, somebody, they were trying to give his phone or something to his girl and he's getting arrested and he just threw the phone in the water. No. He goes, we'll give your stuff to your wife while you sit here. He's like, Throws it right in the water.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That was a funny Dane Cook bit when he said, you ever want to know if your guy's cheating? Go, hey, can I use your phone for a second? If he throws it on the ground and lights it on fire, he's cheating. My phone's broken. Oh, that was. I just took a sip with a lid on.

[Robert Kelly]

I would do that if they were like, hey, I'm gonna give your phone to Lewis to hold on to. Right in the water.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Lois Hill. Oh, the rattlesnake.

[Robert Kelly]

The Puerto Rican rattlesnake.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

We came up with a new nickname for him. What was the nickname? Glad you're listening.

[Robert Kelly]

Wow. Wow. Paco.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Wow. Wow.

[Robert Kelly]

It's a very exciting day. Billy Idol's coming in here. Look at. Jacob just took a big deep breath in.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Me and Dom were dancing in the kitchen at 6:30 in the morning. Embarrassing.

[Robert Kelly]

Max is embarrassing.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It was not. It was fun. We were dancing to Rebel Yell and then we danced to his new song. His new song actually is. It's. It's great.

[Robert Kelly]

Great.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It's really great.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah. Fantastic. Why are you staring at me?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I'm not. Because you. Because you're my partner on radio and I have to look at you.

[Robert Kelly]

That's my favorite part.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Hey, let me ask you again. Let me look at Paco.

[Robert Kelly]

What did you like about us, Paco, Go on.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I'm not.

[Robert Kelly]

No, I like it. I do like it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It's actually good. This is why I like. We'll talk about it with him. Why I like his songs. They're poppy, punky, but then they go heavy. It goes heavy in the chorus. I love a heavy chorus. I like a nice.

[Robert Kelly]

He still got it. I saw him with Bryan Adams.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He's got it, man.

[Robert Kelly]

So surprise. He wants to make new music still. I want to ask him about that.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Well, it's. It's. I'm just happy that he kept his shit together. Physically.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You know what I mean?

[Robert Kelly]

Like, no work.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Like, if Vince Neil came in, I'd be like, oh, boy. This isn't the Vince Neil I know. Yeah, this isn't the one I want.

[Robert Kelly]

It's under there.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I wanted Hot foot teacher. Vince Neil, Hot for teacher.

[Robert Kelly]

What'd you want, Dr. Feelgood?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

What? Your mother?

[Robert Kelly]

There you go.

[Christine]

There you go.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Your mother. No, I want your mother.

[Robert Kelly]

Nope.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Hot Fit teacher, huh? No, that's Van Halen. Sorry.

[Robert Kelly]

I let you get there yourself. You say I correct you. How?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Fatigue.

[Robert Kelly]

I say you get there yourself. I paused. Jacob. It was the first one you named, which was crazy.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Can I say something, though?

[Robert Kelly]

Yes.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Can I say something? It's still micro correction because you went. You put your hand up.

[Robert Kelly]

I didn't want. Jacob was going to correct you. He was going to micro correct you.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

But Jacob's micro correction is a little.

[Christine]

I was going to say this. I think it's Van Halen.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Thank you. That's the way you should have done it.

[Robert Kelly]

He doesn't think it's Van Halen. The whole world knows Van Halen. Paco might have known that. Paco only knows Asian music.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Well, actually. Because I think his father is actually a cover band. Lead singer.

[Robert Kelly]

Oh, absolutely. For Journey.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Sounds great.

[Robert Kelly]

You should tell everybody the guy from Journey's your dad.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Wait a minute.

[Robert Kelly]

Who's gonna challenge that? He's not a very good dad. Say I don't see him.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

What song am I thinking Of? Why am I going crazy? What song am I thinking of?

[Robert Kelly]

Hop for Teacher.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No, that's Van Halen.

[Robert Kelly]

Correct.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

What am I.

[Robert Kelly]

Are you micro correcting me?

[Christine]

A Billy Idol?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No. Motley Cruelty.

[Robert Kelly]

Girls, Girls, Girls, girls. Feel good.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Dr. Feel good. Sorry?

[Robert Kelly]

You said Dr. Feel good, though.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I know I did.

[Robert Kelly]

That's not what you're thinking of.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No.

[Robert Kelly]

Wasn't Kickstart My Heart.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It was Girls, Girls, Girls.

[Robert Kelly]

It was Girls, Girls, Girls.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, that's the. That's the Vince Neil I want.

[Robert Kelly]

I got Paco dads. Paco's dad.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Is that Paco's dad?

[Robert Kelly]

Let's hear him go.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

So good. Angelic. He sounds. He sounds so good.

[Robert Kelly]

Sounds just like it's Baby Paco and me. Papa.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Paco sounds fantastic. Hey, Paco. God, he sounds so good.

[Robert Kelly]

I'm forever yours, Pearl Harbor. Paco.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Have you seen Steve Perry now he looks like a fucking coin collector.

[Robert Kelly]

He really does.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He sucks.

[Robert Kelly]

He does not look good.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Really fucking blows. You know what I mean? That's why I'm so happy. Billy Idol is Billy Idol.

[Robert Kelly]

That we know there is something really. There is something really, really funny, though, about watching a band get older, but they have to hire some new guns because, like, the drummer quits and the drummer still, like, full dangling bandanas off of them and maybe some stage makeup and everything. And everybody else in the band is just, like, dressed like fathers because they have to bring reasonable. They're wearing New Balance shoes at a fucking concert.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Look at this fucking. Look at this pond. Look at him. Stupid hair.

[Robert Kelly]

He's like Melissa.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Now he's got the ipods in because that's how he hears what.

[Robert Kelly]

Technology's fantastic.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

The drummer for Journey was one of the greatest drummers of all time. The original.

[Robert Kelly]

Now it's this guy who's overdoing it when none of the other band is.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I would have. If I. If he put a bikini on at a pool, I'd probably fuck the lead.

[Robert Kelly]

Singer, and I'll tell you that. Absolutely. You would. Yeah. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to move past that. You absolutely have sex with lead singer.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Thank you.

[Robert Kelly]

Jay from behind. Shit. That's an Asian woman. And what's kind of good is he's not overdoing it, the lead singer, but he's keeping it cooler than Sean and the guy on keyboards.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, well, Steve Perry, too, was a. Was goofy. He had a. He had tails.

[Robert Kelly]

No, he was the Flash, for sure. But I'm saying the thing is, he got so much older with these guys. If he dressed rock and rolling now, he'd look like a buffoon.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Well, when Steve Perry.

[Robert Kelly]

But this little Asian, I could pull it off forever because I don't know how this guy might be a thousand five hundred years old.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

When Steve Perry was the lead singer and in his peak, he still pulled his pants up way too high. He had tails for a jacket.

[Robert Kelly]

Sneaks.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And it just.

[Robert Kelly]

I never understood the sneaks. Yeah, you got to go to Faithfully the video. And he didn't give him open arms. Never mind.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He didn't have a. He had. He didn't have a big enough package to wear to split his balls down the middle like that.

[Robert Kelly]

I know.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You know what I mean?

[Robert Kelly]

There's a top coat until. Let me tell you this, though, Christine. Get to the part. I'm gonna cry.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You're gonna cry? Why are you gonna cry?

[Robert Kelly]

Ugh, this song's so good.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Look at those jeans. Look how far up they are. I hate it.

[Robert Kelly]

Now. It's this verse right here. You don't hate this at all?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No, I hate that. I don't. I Hate his outfit.

[Robert Kelly]

J, let me tell you something. The guy could dress in a fucking full bear costume. I wouldn't mind when he sings this song. He's an angel. Turn it up, Lou.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I can sing.

[Robert Kelly]

That's why I feel at my heart Please, I can.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Without you living alone.

[Robert Kelly]

Come on, Bobby, make me feel. Oh, here it is.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

But now that you've come back tonight.

[Robert Kelly]

Today I need you to stay Everybody in the studio, the words are on the screen. So now I come to you with arms.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Nothing to hide Believe what I.

[Robert Kelly]

Said so here I I am with.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Open arms Hoping you'll see what you love means to me Open arms if.

[Robert Kelly]

I could learn just that song on the piano, it would never stop. My penis would never be dry. There would never be a woman's vagina not wrapped around it. On the times that I wasn't playing.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

The song, I would be pansexual. If I could sing like that, I would have to everybody.

[Robert Kelly]

No, no, no. Not a sing like that. You don't do all these things. You just gotta learn. Open Arms by Journey exclusively. And go. Whenever you go into a place, you go, oh, you guys got a keyboard.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Like, I don't know. It's. Can I just say something?

[Robert Kelly]

I fiddle around and go. Let me see if it's. Is this thing even tuned?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

One take to hold you, buddy. I'm pretty sure I nailed it.

[Robert Kelly]

You did, Jacob. Did you not see me? I was like, christine, I was cheering you on.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Perfection.

[Robert Kelly]

Can you put on the end of separate ways? Let's see if you can nail that. Because I feel like he's in a groove right now.

[Christine]

I agree with the Cradle of Love girl. I think that is the. The most I've ever. Like, a music video. Beat off.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah.

[Christine]

She's number one.

[Robert Kelly]

Oh, yeah. No, I counted this. My father said my father had mtv, God bless him. And it was. The one thing he did for me as a child was he gave me an empty house with no supervision and this an mtv so I could whack off to this in peace.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Where's he at.

[Christine]

This dork guy that.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Is he in a closet? Yeah, just. He's peeking through the window.

[Robert Kelly]

Well, he didn't know when she let her in to use the phone, I believe. And she asked if she could play a tape real quick. He didn't know that she was gonna end up all of his linens. My guess would be now as an adult. On your eyes, this woman's such a slut. She's probably just queefing out of the dude's loads all over that duvet. What a pig.

[Christine]

He just wanted to do his work. He had work to do.

[Robert Kelly]

I'm almost thinking Billy. There's a strong chance. Billy Idol never met this woman a day in his life.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No, he doesn't even know who she is. She's probably 72.

[Christine]

Question.

[Robert Kelly]

We looked her up. You see, you could find her still hot. The little child bride. These lyrics are fucked up too, huh? You know, let's not bring this one up. Hey, remember that song you were singing about fucking that child? I used to whack off to it all the time.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Is this about.

[Robert Kelly]

Well, the rebel took the little child bride. It wasn't him. He's not the rebel.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

What happened to his sister?

[Robert Kelly]

Who?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

The little sister.

[Robert Kelly]

His little sister?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No, in the wedding song.

[Robert Kelly]

White Wedding.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

White Wedding.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah, I heard that too. It was. He did not want her to get married.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Okay.

[Robert Kelly]

And so he wrote that song.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

These are all good questions we should.

[Robert Kelly]

Ask, but this again, we might be getting fooled by Internet lore.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, but that's fine.

[Robert Kelly]

So you ask, is it true that that song was written about your sister who's still married to this day and whatever? Now, could we please look up if his sister is still alive? Because I don't want to bring up the sister.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

If she died.

[Robert Kelly]

Or I could say, didn't your late sister. Wasn't she married up until she passed?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

And then you could add, that's not so bad. But if you go, your sister's still married to this day. Oh, it hurts still. And then we're fucked. Nobody wants to send us.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, she could have died like two days ago. And he didn't even want to come here. But he did it.

[Robert Kelly]

I think he moved on quick. Was it a good impression of Billy Idol crying?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

What do we do this?

[Christine]

No, that was good.

[Robert Kelly]

Thank you.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Says yes. You know why? Because it sounded like he was laughing too. I think you're crying. You have to have a little more.

[Robert Kelly]

He's British.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That's better, right?

[Robert Kelly]

It hurts. Oh, it hurts.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That's it right there. Okay.

[Billy Idol]

Who.

[Christine]

Who brought up to bring up the Doors?

[Robert Kelly]

What?

[Christine]

We want the clip. We want the sound bite.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

What?

[Christine]

He was in the Doors movie. Val passed away.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, yeah, he was in the Doors.

[Robert Kelly]

That's right. Yeah, he's great in the Doors, too.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He's great in the Doors.

[Robert Kelly]

Just his drunk friend just fucked up all the time. Steve Stevens. That's the guitar player with the crazy hair who also played Dirty Diana with Michael Jackson.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Two minutes.

[Christine]

Insane guitar player.

[Robert Kelly]

What?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Two minutes until he's supposed to be here. He's running late. Because he's rock.

[Robert Kelly]

He's running late. Did you think he was gonna be here at 2:40?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't know, J. I'm nervous. Can you fucking help me instead of hurting me?

[Robert Kelly]

Try to distract you. I'm nervous around some ideas.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't need you being mean right now.

[Robert Kelly]

Does she sound like an angel? I tried to get her to put on Separate Ways. She didn't go in.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

She's an ass.

[Robert Kelly]

Christine, can you please put on the end of Separate Ways by my journey?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Thank you.

[Robert Kelly]

Do you want to find out if Bobby's got the pipes or not?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. She doesn't think I have it. No, she doesn't think I have it. Just say it, Christine. You don't think I have it?

[Robert Kelly]

Billy Idle, by the way, Dream into, it's the first full length album in over a decade, set for release on Dark Horse records April 25th. And his first single, Still Dancing is out right now, which is very good. That's what you're listening to this morning with Dawn.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

We were listening to that and I was. I was really surprised. I. It's. It might be one of my favorite songs from him.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I swear to God, this new song is just so Billy Idol, but a face guy. It's a good song. We have to be in the mood for that.

[Robert Kelly]

Oh, you don't like Guys Without a Face?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I love it, but it's not.

[Robert Kelly]

Let's not tell him that.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It's not. See, we can't do this. We have to be a team.

[Robert Kelly]

We are. I'm saying don't say that to him.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No, but you can't say that now because what if he listens to the pre thing? What if he's in the car and he hears this? He can't. We're taped. Are you. But what if three days from now, Bobby. What if he becomes a fan of the show?

[Robert Kelly]

Bobby, can we become friends again here?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

I also was not. I was also operating as this was happening live right now as well.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

All right, thanks, buddy. Appreciate that. What are you gonna say to that? Fucking loo poo? How nervous are you, Bobby? Are you nervous the way you are with Barry Manilow?

[Robert Kelly]

I'll tell you, your nerves kick into focus.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Watch this. When he comes in, watch what happens to me. Dude, I'm a fucking laser beam. Watch.

[Robert Kelly]

You don't have to tell me.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. All you have to do is not see Jacob's face and I'm gonna be good.

[Robert Kelly]

I wasn't nervous at all. Except for the fact that we spoke to Liam from talent not a week and a half ago. And we were like, hey, should we get on a meeting or something with talent? Because that would be good. And they go, he said, no. Or did he say maybe? Yeah, maybe.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He said, I don't know.

[Robert Kelly]

He said, I don't know. They're afraid of you. Well, we killed Paco.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Takes more than a TV to kill a Filipino.

[Robert Kelly]

That's true.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

He's trying to. He's mad at himself. He's not staying in touch with his father from Journeymore.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, he's flogging himself with a tv.

[Robert Kelly]

What were we just saying?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Look at me. Look at my finger. Follow my finger. Right here. Talent. You got. They're afraid of you, Liam. Talent.

[Robert Kelly]

Liam is afraid of us at talent department.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Liam, Christine's better at focusing you than me. Thank you, Liam. Talent. Go.

[Robert Kelly]

She smokes the same pot. She knows what it does.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I mean, wow.

[Robert Kelly]

Likes the word talent.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I got you.

[Robert Kelly]

Right away I started going, I have talent. Bobby's got talent. About our talent. Oh, the talent department.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Liam.

[Robert Kelly]

Liam. Liam said, they're all afraid of us. And he said more than the talent department is afraid of us. He said that the pr, like the. The PR people for the celebrities are like, scared of us. Yeah, because I guess once in a while we'll fall in love and try to leave our significant others. As we all get fooled by AI and AI. Dance girl.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

We. That's a you. I didn't want to look at it. We didn't believe it. And then it was too true. It's you guys.

[Robert Kelly]

Guys. We all stood up. Off. Off microphone. We all stuck and pointed at our boners like, yo, it's happening.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Nobody had a boner.

[Robert Kelly]

No, you guys all did.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No, this is nuts. We are not taking the fall for your AI.

[Robert Kelly]

You're taking the fall. We all got fooled. We all got bamboozled.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You know, I really was mad at myself. I was thinking about on the way to work today. I was like, how did I not even think like AI. Oh, I think I said that I live with a guy who fucking retarded hot chick.

[Robert Kelly]

I don't think like, this is the hottest retarded.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I mean, you're right.

[Christine]

You gave your care credit card twice. You tried to give.

[Robert Kelly]

It's not posting up outside of yellow small little buses waiting for kids to come out.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It's a valid point. She had all her teeth. You're right.

[Robert Kelly]

Damn. But I didn't want Christine really necessarily to know that she is one Bodacious down syndrome girl away from losing everything she has. I feel like it's gonna hit me now. I think it's gonna. I think that's gonna come back on me now. Oh, please. To the end of the song so Bobby can show you. You still got it?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, I still got it.

[Robert Kelly]

Not the end. End to love you. Oh, it's coming, dude. The part.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, God. I think I. I might stop.

[Robert Kelly]

I wouldn't stop talking if I were you. I would just keep taking big breaths.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I got this, dude.

[Robert Kelly]

I mean, what you're going about to have to do. None of these instruments are plugged in.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It's the ugliest bass player on planet Earth, by the way. You look like crater face from Grease 1. Thank you, Jacob.

[Robert Kelly]

They all look like jerk offs when they were filming this.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

They really do.

[Robert Kelly]

Okay, Bobby.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Break those chains that bind you. One night will remind you loud and loud.

[Robert Kelly]

Wait, wait.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Whoops. If she ever hurt you. True love won't disrupt you. You know I still love you.

[Robert Kelly]

All right, come here.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I mean, damn.

[Robert Kelly]

You got it, dude.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I think I got it. I got it.

[Robert Kelly]

God, I wish. Christina. It goes. Bringing up. Bring up Paulie. Bring up Paulie. Z hitting thems.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

What if he's good? What if they. What if Journey, they lose a Filipino guy and then they hear this and then they bring me in.

[Robert Kelly]

Oh, I thought just arbitrarily you'd bring him. Paco.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Well, no.

[Robert Kelly]

Who's this? This is Paulie. So when I was on the show Z Rock, this is the lead singer of that band.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

He does vocal exercises now. You're as good as him.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He's really. I mean, it's weird. It looks like Marky Mark singing it.

[Robert Kelly]

Wow, he's. Oh, really? Jacob. Jacob just went.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Who's better, me or him?

[Christine]

I mean, you sang with more passion.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Thanks. What matters matters. Passion matters.

[Christine]

Oh, no, he's got passion too.

[Robert Kelly]

Turn it up. Here you go. Sounds just like you, dude. We should put him next to each other.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Real quick. He's got a better microphone. That's a Newman. I'm working with these shitty bonfire microphones that they give us. God, that.

[Christine]

You're not wrong.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Hey, you know, when there's a. There's a feeling I get being on the show and being a part of the SiriusXM family. Family. But when somebody bigs in the area, sure, everybody's out. Like the whole. And I feel like I'm at a barbecue. But I'm a fifth cousin where we weren't invited by the. The main family. We were invited by, like, maybe a friend. We're a friend of a friend at a party where we're just kind of hanging out with each other. Like me and. Me, you and Bennington were just kind of in the corner going, hey, man, what's going on? Like, we're afraid to get snacks.

[Robert Kelly]

I don't know. They respect Bennington and they give him good guests.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Right.

[Robert Kelly]

They have no respect for us.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Why?

[Robert Kelly]

They said they're afraid of us because once in a while we all are. Admittedly not smart enough to get fooled every now and again by a fucking super hot, AI bodacious Down syndrome.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That was it. That was you. They're afraid of you. It might be more the, like, Bret Michaels. What incident? I blame Dan. I blame Dan.

[Robert Kelly]

Probably more of a Dan thing.

[Christine]

Once it was in here, it was. It was glorious.

[Robert Kelly]

It's just Brett Michaels.

[Christine]

Yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

Maybe one of our best interviews before. I just didn't know he was going to come in. And we made a lot of fun of his hair and bandana and hair again.

[Christine]

So.

[Billy Idol]

Yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

And then we circled back around to his head and then we straight up.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Called him a liar. At least I did when he left, saying that he's not really going to take me to play baseball on the City Field with the Mets.

[Robert Kelly]

He promised Lou a catch in the outfield at City Field. I mean, he promised. He made some. He made some over the top.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

100%. Would have happened pre.

[Christine]

Would have happened pre and post. Insecurity is what is what kills us.

[Robert Kelly]

It is that's what. You're right, Jacob. That's it. That's what takes us down.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It almost makes you regret not just pulling that thing off his head and throwing it on the ground.

[Robert Kelly]

I mean, while he was here. We should just went at him completely.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You should just went. Lit the fucking house on fire.

[Robert Kelly]

Hey, what's doc. Oscar De La Hoya's niece is pussy. Like, like. Remember that when he. Daisy De La Hoya.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

What a fucking bull.

[Robert Kelly]

Well, she was the Daisy of love. She ended up having her own show. That's. Her last name's De La Hoya. It's Oscar De La Hoya's like, niece or something.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Was it wasn't New York on that show too?

[Robert Kelly]

She was from Flavor Flav.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, yeah. But didn't she go on. No, she went on another show. I forget what it was.

[Robert Kelly]

I think she ended up on the Apprentice at one point. New York was New York.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

She's back. She did this thing recently. She's. I fucking love New York.

[Robert Kelly]

She's like Lamb Chop.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That's right.

[Robert Kelly]

She did. She looks like Lamb Chop with those fucking goofy eyes. Yeah, New York. She had a fucking crazy body for a minute, but she was a flavor. Flavor eject.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

Much like Brigitte Nielsen.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, yeah, Brigitte.

[Robert Kelly]

And her name was Tiffany something.

[Billy Idol]

Tiffany.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Great. What a name, though. New York. I'm gonna change my name to New York.

[Robert Kelly]

Well, you can't do that. Flavor Flav has to name you.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Okay, well, Nate, you name me. Go ahead.

[Robert Kelly]

I'm thinking I'm gonna get something good.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Don't look at my tits when you're thinking about something.

[Robert Kelly]

Face. Look at your face.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

What's up?

[Robert Kelly]

The.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Let me give you some looks.

[Robert Kelly]

I mean, God, you have Godfather vibes. Okay, all right. I see what you're doing. Cigar Bob.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

What?

[Robert Kelly]

No.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

What the what? That's my name. Don't add my name. I want a whole new name.

[Robert Kelly]

Oh, something different there.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, like Turks.

[Robert Kelly]

Okay, I got it. Okay. Oh, I got it. I've already got it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Don't say Turks in queso.

[Robert Kelly]

I got it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

What?

[Robert Kelly]

Tiny House. Your tiny house hates it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't like it.

[Robert Kelly]

Why?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Because. I don't know Tiny.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah, but. But you're a house.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I like House better.

[Robert Kelly]

Just House?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, House. What's up, House? When he comes in, introduce me as House Bobby.

[Robert Kelly]

Can you commit for the entire time he's in here to being House?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Dude, don't call me. What'd you call me?

[Robert Kelly]

House.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

What's up, dude?

[Robert Kelly]

Can you.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. What's up, House?

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna try to keep up with you.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Christine doesn't like it. Why don't you like it? Christine? Her. Her production side is like. You don't want that. You want him to know you. You need the. You need the bump, Bobby. Bobby, you need the bump.

[Robert Kelly]

Don't let it. Don't do. You just look at her and like the water boy. You see Dawn's face yelling at you.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I see Dawn's face. Don't do it, Bobby.

[Robert Kelly]

Bump. Idiot.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Don't do it, you fucking idiot. You're not a house, Tiny. House used to be a house. You're fat as a house, but you're not House.

[Robert Kelly]

That's what I'm saying now. You're Tiny House. That's the play on the name.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't. I like Tiny. I'll take Tiny.

[Robert Kelly]

That's weird.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

How about middle? I've never heard that before in a Guy Ritchie movie. Give it up for Mill. My Middle. He's a middle man. He's a middle.

[Robert Kelly]

Oh, no, not my sister.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Why do you name him middle?

[Robert Kelly]

I'm still working on the cry.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He loves Can't Brittle. He likes can't and brittle.

[Robert Kelly]

Oh, I gotta tell him that I. I sang Rebel Yale live on television.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, on.

[Robert Kelly]

On Comedy Central. Do we have somewhere?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That's great. That's awesome. Be here in nine minutes. Nine minutes, Dougie Fresh, you're on.

[Robert Kelly]

What? Are you texting with him personally?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No, with the talent, fellow talent. Oh, shit, my phone's on. No, no, no.

[Robert Kelly]

Can you ask.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, it's Mike Feeney.

[Robert Kelly]

Do you have. Do you have slot machine jackpot hacking when Mike Feeney falls?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I have no.

[Robert Kelly]

What the hell does that mean?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I have. I changed my ringer to something more soothing because it was annoying me.

[Robert Kelly]

Okay.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I didn't like. I like that one.

[Robert Kelly]

Why don't you just leave it on vibrate like the rest of the world?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Because I like answering the phone, like.

[Robert Kelly]

Unlike you, but you answered if it's in a place you could feel it vibrating.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't. I just shut it off when I'm on the air. Dude, I'm a professional. I don't need it on. It was on by accident.

[Robert Kelly]

Goes off every single day.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Because I am becoming a professional. I'm learning.

[Robert Kelly]

We're learning.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, I'm learning, dude. I mean, talk about micro. Micro fucking edit or whatever the fuck it is, right? Yeah. That was really. I mean, gee, you don't even know when you're doing it.

[Robert Kelly]

What?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Your micro goes off every day. It goes off every day.

[Robert Kelly]

Well, Jacob's trying to divide and conquer.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No, not. We're trying to help you out of your fucking micro. Shit.

[Robert Kelly]

Jacob's trying to divide and conquer us. Do not let him divide us and conquer us.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I will not, Jay. I will not. That face couldn't divide anything.

[Robert Kelly]

Do not allow that face to conquer. Divide. Divide.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That fucking face can ruin Christmas.

[Robert Kelly]

Oh, that's right. Billy Idols up for the Rock and Roll hall of Fame this year.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, he's in. Didn't he get in?

[Robert Kelly]

I don't think they picked it officially yet. Just. The nominees are out right now.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Say. Say that we're on the Rock and Hall of Fame voting committee.

[Robert Kelly]

So you want to start the relationship with lies?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Well, you're going to call me House.

[Robert Kelly]

Well, you want to be called House now? I want to know technically not a lie. You want to be House?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

If I wanted a name. I don't know if House is the name. Christine didn't like it.

[Robert Kelly]

We'll go House, But I'LL let him know. It's short for tiny house. I got. That's house. It's short for tiny house. We just call him House.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

How about Lens Kelly?

[Robert Kelly]

Lens?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. Lens. No. Oh. Bobby strings. No, it's not real. I know it's not real. None of it's real. My real nickname is Shades Kelly that I gave myself in Jewish camp when I had a bunch of sunglasses in a fucking brief. A tape cassette, briefcase.

[Robert Kelly]

Are you. You don't have to tell people that.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It's already out there, dude.

[Robert Kelly]

Okay?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I had a. I got the tape cassette briefcase, and I took all the sunglasses I had from gas stations. Had like 15 pairs. And then I graffitied Shades inside on the flip. So when I would go in every morning, I'd open up my little briefcase.

[Robert Kelly]

And realize that you were Shades.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I was Shades Kelly. And I would take out my little sunglass for the day because I'd switch it up every day and I would put them on and everybody.

[Robert Kelly]

You're not Shades Kill anymore. You're something else.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Okay? You've grown some English, so. Because they always do like China. You're my China. What's that mean, mate? Plate. China Plate. Mate.

[Robert Kelly]

What the. Was I wearing?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

What the. What are you talking about? Today?

[Robert Kelly]

No.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, sorry.

[Billy Idol]

Looks like he's.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. All right.

[Christine]

Yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

That's off the screen.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Get it off the screen. We're professionals. Get it off.

[Robert Kelly]

Okay.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Is it coming in?

[Robert Kelly]

No.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

What?

[Robert Kelly]

Jacob just saw people in the hallway and got everyone they started.

[Christine]

One guy actually peeked in. The guy that always.

[Robert Kelly]

Did he have a snarl? Lip?

[Christine]

It wasn't Billy.

[Robert Kelly]

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[Big Jay Oakerson]

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[Big Jay Oakerson]

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[Robert Kelly]

Do you think he wants to know? One time I I filmed a girl doing karaoke with her snatch and no and I Had to do a Billy Idol song because of. If you pull on one side of it looks like it's going up like that, you know?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I think you would know that. I actually would love for you to tell that story. We'll never get anybody else, but that's fine. Dude, that's great.

[Robert Kelly]

Please tell that the girl used to work at a comedy club, but not when you worked at. You didn't like this place?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Which one?

[Robert Kelly]

Comic Strip.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I love the comic Strip.

[Robert Kelly]

It didn't like you. I was there. They told me you were banned, buddy.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

First of all, they told. They told me to my face when I tried to get in. They just didn't let me in.

[Robert Kelly]

Oh, they told me, too. After I was already in. They told me that I wasn't allowed back ever again. Yeah, the guy, the manager there, reached out to me recently.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, I remember when what's his name came up to me with his leather glove. Missing fingers. Because he had, I don't know, some weird disease where his body was falling off.

[Robert Kelly]

One of the owners, slash longtime booker of the comedy comic strip, had scleroderma and so.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Is that what it's called?

[Robert Kelly]

He was also very, very mean to you. And then once in a while, while he was pointing at you with one of his crooked fingers, it would just fall off.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Buddy. It's so crazy. He would just show up with a glove, but, like, he'd have to tape the pinky and the index finger down. Cause it was missing.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah, yeah. It was just like three of them were flaps. Yeah, there was two fingers and the other things were just flaps. Empty flaps.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It's crazy. And they'd be like, you were okay, but not good enough for us to be like, all right, you fucking Bond villain.

[Robert Kelly]

His chick found him dead in the chair. Continue to do comedy, and it's just a basket case.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

What was her name? She was in.

[Robert Kelly]

I know her name.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

She was in vh.

[Robert Kelly]

Dude, get your wings.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No, great movie. Ghost.

[Robert Kelly]

What was that?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Ghost.

[Robert Kelly]

She was in something.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

What's the movie? The ghost Kill. The samurai movie with man.

[Robert Kelly]

Ghost. Samurai.

[Christine]

Ghostbusters Dog.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Ghost Dog. Ghost.

[Robert Kelly]

Ghost.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, she was in Ghostbusters. She was slimer. Ghost Dog. She was in Ghost Dog.

[Robert Kelly]

She was. Yeah, she playing Ghost Dog.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

She played the copy. Remember the cop that pulled him over?

[Robert Kelly]

Did she?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, dude, great movie.

[Robert Kelly]

Interesting. Oh, come on. You know I love that. Oh, yeah, she was the cop and Ghost Dog.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, she was a cop and ghost.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah. Lucian. Look at him.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Dude, what a name. Lucian. What an evil club. Owner name.

[Robert Kelly]

He was a failed ballerino.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

What?

[Robert Kelly]

Ballerino.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

What's a ballerina?

[Robert Kelly]

That's what I call a male ballerina.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Hey, was he a ballerina? Was he a dancer?

[Robert Kelly]

I think so.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Wow.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He's got the body.

[Robert Kelly]

He was only 57.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He was the most powerful man. One of the most powerful men in comedy at one point.

[Robert Kelly]

Well, being wore that badge with a lot of pride and very little personality. He was a weird guy.

[Christine]

Older.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And then God took his fingers crazy.

[Robert Kelly]

He told me he passed me because. And worked me late nights because that's where he would normally put Hispanic or. Or negro comedian and. But I have that energy.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

So he told me he wouldn't pass.

[Robert Kelly]

That's what he said when I was thanking. I stopped him to thank him for working me so much. And he goes, at that point, I would. At that point in the evening, I'd usually put up a negro act or a Hispanic act. But you seem to have that energy. So I was like, so, okay, so thank you. I thought you was gonna say, you're welcome or we're happy to have you here.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You wouldn't be able to say that now. Have to beat around the bush on.

[Robert Kelly]

That one of a negro comic. A guy whose fingers are falling off from a civil war disease.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

When was. When could you say Negro? What Was that, the 70s?

[Robert Kelly]

No, it was the early aughts.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It was really late. That's nuts that he said that.

[Robert Kelly]

But he was. Does it say something about him being a ballerino?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I'm lucky I haven't seen that. He actually told. He comes to me, goes, you did great. But we have a lot of Spanish comedians. I'm Irish, because we have a lot of those too. And I was like, all right, dude, whatever the fuck are you talking.

[Robert Kelly]

Some people have stories. He would go in there and he would, like, have a snack, like, with his gloved fingers. And, like, he was just, like, falling apart. So one has a person eating soup while he was doing their thing and just, like, spitting soup on their. Like. Like on their shirt while he's telling them that they're not passed and why he liked it. I'll tell you this about Esty. Estie just goes, okay, thank you. We'll let you know when. When that happens. You're not getting booked.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. Or you looked in the hallway and she wasn't there. You'd see her shadow. She had a chair, a little stool. She'd sit.

[Robert Kelly]

Yes.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And that is your see the outline, her silhouette of her? And the whole time you wouldn't see her laughing because it was dark enough where you couldn't see anything. But then if you looked up and the silhouette was gone, you failed.

[Robert Kelly]

So. But if you had. But if you had the sack still at that point, you're supposed to know if you still had the balls to go up to her afterwards and be like, huh? She'll say, we'll let you know. And then that's just her way of, like, casting off. Because if you pass, she gives you the email immediately or whatever it is.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

She waits for you. She goes, great job. Email me. We put you on the thing right there.

[Robert Kelly]

So that's how you find out if you're. Yeah, if you're passed down there.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That's how I got passed right there. Waiting for.

[Robert Kelly]

But the comic strip Lucian wanted to bring you in to explain you for 15 minutes before. He didn't pass you, why you're not passed.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

But. But you would. I would like you would correct him and he would just come up with another excuse. Like. Like when he said, I have a lot of Puerto Ricans. I'm like, but I'm Irish. He's like, I have a lot of those too. It's like, dude, you're not passing me, no matter what the fuck. I said, I remember Starla was his sidekick.

[Robert Kelly]

Yes.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

She came up to me.

[Robert Kelly]

She has to pass you first.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

She came up to me one night. She goes, you did? I killed. I murdered. And I don't say that, but I. You know what I mean? You know, when you murder, murdered, she come up. She goes, I mean, literally, the bartender was like, dude, that was insane. She comes up, she goes, you dig? Good? She was about to say, great. She went, you did good. And I was like, I'm out. Off. I can't. I don't know what to do with you people.

[Robert Kelly]

That's great.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You guys are mentally ill. You know.

[Robert Kelly]

Lucian from the comic ship, his. The last. I mean, weeks before he died, he. I called him up to ask him. I was like, hey, I noticed I haven't gotten spots in a few weeks at that point. I was pretty staple there when I was in town, which was always. I was pretty regular there when I put it. And then one day he just stopped. He's never forget the names. He goes, I called him up to be like, hey, Luciano, just checking. I know there's a lot of people in town or something, but I just haven't got work there in a couple weeks making sure everything's okay. Or if I'm unaware of something. And he Was like, yeah. He goes, I think we're gonna be moving on from you. He goes, the. He goes, the industry doesn't seem very interested in you at all. And I'd like. I was like, jesus, what the fuck is that? I was like. I was like, I just started doing a TV show. Z Rock.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

I was like, I just started. It was like 2008. I was like, I just started doing a TV show stuff. He goes, no, but I mean, like. Like the festivals and everything. And I go, I did New Faces and I'm going to the Nasty show this year, like, in Montreal. And he goes, still, I have to make way still. He goes, I have to make way for comics, like. And he gave me names. Dana Duke and Marina Franklin. Those are two people you had to make way for.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Skyrocketed to fame, by the way. Yeah, dude. He would. Whatever. He just wanted whatever you had, whatever you could solve the puzzle that he said. And he would just make another puzzle right in front of you. It was like Hellraiser Cube. It was fucking crazy.

[Robert Kelly]

But literally, the day he died, the Greg Judge was the manager over there still. And Greg Judge called me up right away, and he goes, please start putting your avails back in. Yeah. He's like, no one's like, I have no idea what. That was so crazy.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

I was so regular there that it was insane. It just one day. He was like, nah, no one cares about you. I'm like, but I do. Good.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

They called me.

[Robert Kelly]

I would tell you if I was like, I struggled at this club all the time.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

They called me up and they're like, dude, we'd love for you to start coming up here. And went.

[Robert Kelly]

I went, no, I believe you.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't know. I get fudgeing 19 spots at the Cellar.

[Robert Kelly]

Shit. I wanted to go. That's. Man. That stage, when it was popping, was one of the best rooms.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It was all right. But I hated getting on stage that little as a fat guy getting on stage. It's like a tiny little hallway. They had a squeeze by, like, ketchup, like Costco ketchups and fucking, like, you know, alcohol. Hey.

[Robert Kelly]

Oh. All right here, everybody.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Hey, what's up? Here we go, everybody.

[Robert Kelly]

We're gonna have you over there.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Right over here, buddy. How are you? What's up? Billy. Nice to meet you, buddy. I'm Robert, man.

[Robert Kelly]

Very excited to have in the studio, everybody, once again.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yes.

[Robert Kelly]

The first full length album in over a Decade, coming out April 25th on Dark Horse Records. It's called Dream Into It. The legend Billy Idol's with us.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

What's happening, man? How are you?

[Billy Idol]

Very well, thank you. Great, yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Great to meet you, man. I'm very excited.

[Billy Idol]

Great.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. I mean, you looked excited to meet me too.

[Billy Idol]

I'm happy to be in New York and I'm enjoying it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. Now you live in LA, right?

[Billy Idol]

You live there how long? 30 something years?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, yeah, 30 years.

[Robert Kelly]

But you were before that you were East Village or not East West Village.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, West Virginia.

[Robert Kelly]

For the longest time?

[Billy Idol]

Six years. I lived in New York. Yeah. 81 to 87.

[Robert Kelly]

So you're like right down by the comedy. So where did you live in the West Village?

[Billy Idol]

Yes, 81. I just. Sheridan Square.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Okay.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah.

[Billy Idol]

Barrow Street. I was all around there.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Did New York. You seem like a New York guy.

[Billy Idol]

I love New York. It's fantastic. Especially that time period was incredible time to be in New York. Anything went. The city was bankrupt. There's people having part, you know, clubs in their, in their apartments and then they would turn into an after hours club. It was like, wow, you watch this, everything grow exponentially.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I remember that when I, when I first moved here, they had like. You'd go to somebody's apartment at like three in the morning and they make it into a club. Yeah. And you just hang out in somebody's apartment making out with some chick you just met.

[Billy Idol]

Yeah, The Continental Club started that way. It was like. It was in this guy Harvey's, you know, he had little ticky glasses. And then it turned into this massive.

[Robert Kelly]

After the Continental particularly became. I did a show there before it closed with John, what's his name from the CRO Mags, lead singer. The CRO Mags put a comedy show on there.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

We're stand up comedians. We're not rock and roll guys. You're looking at his mittens and you.

[Billy Idol]

Like hand in hand.

[Robert Kelly]

But that place was. Continental was famous. You are not drinking anymore, Bobby. But Continental was the. Wasn't it 10 shots of anything or 5 shots of anything for $10.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Really?

[Robert Kelly]

That went well into New York being very expensive. They just kept that place, which is probably why it went under ultimately. But what a deal, buddy.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I just want to say I, I look, I've been a fan. I'm. I was born in 1970. You, I was a big fan of yours my whole life. And I'm just happy. And I was telling Jay that you kept your shit together. There's nothing like when you meet somebody later in life and they're just, you know, you look like my Aunt Peggy. You still look the way you look back in the 70s and 80s, you still look fantastic. Your hair is. I wanted your hair so bad and I couldn't because I had cowlicks. So my hair, I couldn't get the spiked hair so I looked like a jackass. And my, my, my hair was weird. Your hair is the best. Your look is the best and you still look fantastic.

[Billy Idol]

Dude it up.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Billy. Take a compliment, baby. You must feel great, right?

[Billy Idol]

I do feel great. I mean, I really like this music we're making. I mean, we didn't try to redesign my music or anything. It's, it's playing to our strengths. I mean, my guitarist, Steve Stevens, he's from, from New York, far rock away. In fact, he's playing better than ever. So I think we've come up with an album that's super fresh and that was kind of the mo. We've what you want to do a nine song album and we want to make. Every song is killer, you know, every song is strong.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. The song why I love your songs, I was telling Jay, is because it's, it's, it's, it's. It goes into. That chorus is heavy. You go, you kind of go poppy punk and it's a fast beat and it's awesome. And then all of a sudden the chorus is just rocking. Your voice comes in. And this new song is great because it's, it's kind of like, you know, wrapping up your career like in the, you know, Dancing with Myself. Right, which was from your first band, Generation X. Right?

[Billy Idol]

Yeah, it was one of the last things we did. Yeah, right, was. And I kind of took that into my solo career.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Were they mad that you took that. That was your first hit, right?

[Billy Idol]

Yeah, it's one of. Well, it was more, it was more like it was a big video because that's funny enough. Dancing Herself has never really been a hits hit song in terms of Billboard or something, you know, but it's been, well, Beavis, Beavis, everybody knows it.

[Robert Kelly]

That was big push from Beavis and Butthead revived it almost at one point.

[Billy Idol]

Exactly. More recently, Tom Hanks, you know, said it was the Coronavirus anthem. So, you know, you kind of go, this song, I don't know, it's. It's got all these legs. It's got legs. It keeps, keeps.

[Robert Kelly]

Was Steve Stevens with you from the beginning of your solo career?

[Billy Idol]

Yeah, at the manager I had below Coin, he managed Kiss, but he was, he was very, you know, always had his eye on what was happening in New York and he knew Steve Stevens. So he put us. He kind of put us together in terms of story. Well, he got us to meet and once I met Steve and I saw what Steve could do, I just. I went, I can make the most eclectic albums I want to make. Because this guy, anything I want to do, he can do it, you know. And because he can play, you know, he can play flamenco guitar. He can play, you know.

[Robert Kelly]

Well, you guys. You guys look also complemented each other so much that I almost wonder was that. Did he keep up with your lady, kind of come in and pick like the Billy Idol kind of look to go with or was he always kind of as a. Because the hair was always that crazy hair that was so that's how I recognized them when I was younger. Got Moonwalker, the Michael Jackson tape. He plays guitar, I believe, for Dirty Diana.

[Billy Idol]

That's right.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah.

[Billy Idol]

He did do Dirty Diana with fantastically too. Yeah, he's always had his own look, which is, you know, so the two of us together, both can. We can both take the audience that and I was looking for that too. I wanted somebody else I could work with. I've always loved the guitar singer combination. You want the other guy to be able to take the audience so that you can sit back for a little bit and then you. Then you take the order. It's like a double pronged attack.

[Robert Kelly]

So you guys are still amazing live. We saw.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That's what me and Jay do, by the way.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah. Double pronged attack.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Double pronged attacks.

[Robert Kelly]

Me and Christine saw when you were co headlining with Brian Adams with Jones Beach a couple years back and it was fantastic. What a night. You guys, you still. You still have a blast performing on stage.

[Billy Idol]

Yeah, it's a lot of fun. I mean it's. It's a high you can get every night. You know, when you play. That's the great. Instead of like drugs and things, it's gonna fade. But the rock and rol experience, playing in a group once. Once that little. It's like a sports guy, like in the fast. You know, an Aston Martin or something, you know. You know, and it's the most souped up thing in the world and. And you're just surfing on top of this wave of sounds and you can't help but get. By the end of the night, you're like a little high, you know, from the noise and the exertion and the audience being so into it. It is still really exciting and it's amazing. I could never have thought that I'd Be saying this nearly, because next year it'll be 50 years.

[Robert Kelly]

The only thing that changes is, like, the after show rituals.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. There's no more cocaine and girls.

[Robert Kelly]

Now there's like a physical therapist making sure your shoulders right.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. You have to get a nice pack.

[Billy Idol]

There's a little bit of a difference there.

[Robert Kelly]

Yes.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I've got to say, you go right to bed.

[Robert Kelly]

Well, it's fun. I got to watch a band. I got to watch seeing the band Korn. A million years ago, when I went, when they were still young, they had a room called Chicken Heads. That was. They just put girls that wanted to come backstage in that room and then going to see them. I was trying to see this. I was trying to see the lead singer after the show four years ago or something. And he was like, I'm sorry I missed you, man. He goes, I have to go in the massage chair, like, right after the show or I can't perform tomorrow. And you're like, damn. I'm like, where's the Chicken Heads room? That was 20 years ago.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

After our shows, me and him go back to his room. We lie on our stomachs and watch YouTube videos.

[Robert Kelly]

It's not wrong.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He calls it tummy time.

[Robert Kelly]

Is that the most interesting thing? I think comics and musicians on a probably grander scale feel this. The change of, like, in some point of time, like an hour separation from a stadium of people, like, adoring you and then, like, figuring out what you're going to eat at the hotel. And, like, socks and, like, you know, just, like, shorts. Like, what does this place have microwave popcorn? Do I even have a microwave in my room? Just like the loneliness of being in a hotel or something after something that grand.

[Billy Idol]

Yeah, but we move on really fast. We don't, you know, we don't really stay very long. And, you know, next minute you move in and you're on to the next place and. And, you know, if you're really enjoying the music you're making in that with, like I say, a killer band that I've got. It's. It. It just flows too. We. And we try to make the travel as simple as possible and as fluid so that it, you know.

[Robert Kelly]

Have you ever had an offer?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Are you with Joan Jett, too, right.

[Billy Idol]

On this tour? Yes. We'll be doing.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, that's great. You guys been friends for a while, right?

[Billy Idol]

Well, I've known Joan since 1978. I met her after A Germs and Dead Kennedy's concert. Whiskey a Go Go. And it was me, Joan and 20 other girls who all had virtually nothing on. So it was rather exciting.

[Robert Kelly]

Did you ever have in your travels at terrible bus mate someone you just couldn't take anymore?

[Billy Idol]

Well, there's always something like that because there used to be a fight over the air conditioning because one person wants. It's like a. Like a meat locker and then some. Then for us singers, it's terrible to be in terribly cold air. So there'd be a fight between like. So somebody wakes up and makes it super cold. And somebody wakes up, makes it really hot. It goes on.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

We know how that is in the studio. Yeah, he usually.

[Christine]

I'm like you, the singer, Billy.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He usually has a blanket. He didn't put it on today because you were coming in.

[Robert Kelly]

And Jacob doesn't sing. For the record, he's not a singer.

[Christine]

You don't have to bring up any of this.

[Robert Kelly]

Jacob's a bit of a drummer. I have. It's so crazy when someone meets you. Like, we do like a zillion questions from a zillion years to ask you one because we were watching the video again. I've told the story many times. My first music video, masturbation to Rock the Cradle of Love by Billy Idol. And realizing when we were watching the video again today, that strong chance. You never even met that girl. I don't know if you guys were in the same place ever.

[Billy Idol]

Oh, no, no, I actually. Yeah, I took her out for dinner and everything.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Nice, nice.

[Billy Idol]

But unfortunately she wore. She wore sandals or something. I think it was a definite. You're not getting okay.

[Robert Kelly]

She dressed. She just dressed the. Yeah.

[Billy Idol]

Deliberately like.

[Robert Kelly]

No, I'm an actress.

[Billy Idol]

I'm not just, you know, it's okay, darling. I get it. She was great. She was fantastic. I had a broken leg, so I. It was very difficult. We didn't know how we were going to make a video for that song because I couldn't move. I had a cast up to my thigh. And David Fincher was a. Was a video director in those days, and he had a concept for where I could just be a picture on the wall.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah.

[Billy Idol]

And he had that whole idea that she would be trying to play the song and the guy next door had all those artworks and she was going to turn his sound. Her sound system a broken. He's going to turn. She's going to turn out really loud and all the artwork start falling apart and everything. So he had that idea and he said, billy, you just have to be a pitcher on the wall. I can shoot you from the waist up. You don't have to move. And I went, great.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That was back.

[Billy Idol]

This guy is a. Is a genius director.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That was back in the day where you had to do. The video was a big part of the song becoming a hit. It had to have a story. People had to be talking about the video.

[Billy Idol]

Yeah, a lot of the videos I'd made, I mean, I. You had to set the pace. I had to. You know, I wanted to impress upon people there's a style to a Billy Idol video. So I definitely. I. I made the running, usually, but in this case, I was a little bit flawed. I didn't know what to do, you know, I don't know, how am I going to do this? I can't move. I can't really be the usual Billy, you know, so. But he had that great idea.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Was it true that you're supposed to be in Terminator 2?

[Billy Idol]

I was. I did. You did. Do you know, James Cameron's shot? He does the, you know, the reading or whatever called Audition, I suppose I'm quite sure what you call it. And, yeah, I. I did some of the lines from the movie and. But. But I had that motorcycle accident. I couldn't run. And he said, there's a point in the movie where you're gonna have to be able to run. Can you run? And I said, I can't really. I've got this terrible limb. And that's what kind of. But there's one point in the, you know, in his tape. Audition tape where he says, I've got the police helmet on and the shades and the gun in my hand. And he goes, The T determinator 2 comes to life. The T1000 comes to life. You know, And I was like, I was gonna get to throw Arnold through a wall.

[Robert Kelly]

Damn it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Don't forget all the money. Yeah, yeah, it's a lot of money.

[Robert Kelly]

Great, too.

[Billy Idol]

The idea of being in a killer science fiction movie would have been incredible.

[Robert Kelly]

You know, you've had acting roles before, and we were talking before. We just lost Val Kilmer. And you were famously in the Doors movie, which is one of my. That's the. The movie. I think a lot of people around my age had this happen. The movie's what got me into the band. And then I got very into the band. Were you a big fan of the Doors going into the movie?

[Billy Idol]

Yeah, I was. I was a fan of Jim Morrison, especially when I came to America. I was, you know, the. The music that was in the charts was radically different from what was in the charts in England. And a lot of Those bands, they were kind of like hard rock bands that had gone pop sort of thing. They were singing like these very high harmonies. So I was going, I don't really sing like that. I mean, how anybody in America gonna be? And I started to think about, wait a minute, they like Frank Sinatra. And then I thought they like Jim Morrison. And so I thought, you know, okay, I love Jim. So I love the Doors. And, you know, we did LA Woman as a song. We used do that as a cover. And I put out a single of LA Woman. So I love the Doors a lot. And then, yeah, the chance to get in the movie was I was going to be Michael Madsen's part, but the motorcycle accident, you know, all the same time.

[Robert Kelly]

Wow.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I think your best, your best part.

[Billy Idol]

In a movie, Wedding Singer.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I mean, come on. The fact that you came out of the. I mean, you stole the movie at the end. I mean, it was the greatest.

[Billy Idol]

It was fantastic.

[Robert Kelly]

How crazy was it that you looked so people hadn't like maybe seen you in a while? They didn't think it was you thought it was someone playing because it looked too young almost to be. I remember when I first saw it, I was like, no, that's not. Is it actually Billy, that was crazy. But that had to be fun to do.

[Billy Idol]

Well, it's really good fun. Between it doing the, doing the takes and that, you know, in his trailer, a lot of you guys, comedians, you know, Sam Kinison was a great guitar player and so, so Adam Sandler, he loves playing the guitar and stuff. So in his trailer he had a bass, drums and guitar setup. So we, we were jamming in between, really. In between the setups. You know, we were jamming.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

We were talking before you came in, because your name is. I mean, first of all, it's perfect design wise. Billy Idol, right? It's great name, Billy. What a name. I believe you got that because of a teacher was insulting you, trying to insult you or something.

[Billy Idol]

Yeah, I got like 5 out of 10 or something on a. On a, you know, end of the year exam or something. I was so hopeless at chemistry, I was useless and I hated it. So, yeah, this teacher was really upset with me. So, you know, in those days, teachers wrote in long hand, you know, cursive. They wrote, you know, joined up writing, but he wrote in capital letters, william is Idle. So, you know, later on, when I was sort of going to be in a punk rock group, I started off calling myself Billy Idle, you know, Right. And then this lady, Caroline Coon, she was going to do A story on the Sex Pistol fans. We were. I was in this bunch of kids who were like Sex Pistol fans of Bromley Contingent. We were called. And she said, well, you know, I'm going to do this article about the Sex Pistols. You'll be being a fan of the Pistols. What do you want to be called in it? And I said, well, I've been Billy Idle. And she said, well, what about Eric Idle? Is Eric Idle Monty Python? He's. That's his real name. And I went, oh. So she said, you got 24 hours. Tell me what you know. Tomorrow, call me up and tell me what you want to be. So I thought about it for 24 hours and there was this guy in the Dolls, the New York Dolls, Billy Doll, you know, And I thought maybe I could be Billy Idol. Anyway, this is nuts. But I thought, I'm gonna do it.

[Robert Kelly]

And then it's your whole life.

[Billy Idol]

It actually made even more sense for the 80s because then you had Prince, Madonna, and Billy Idol. It was like, this is crazy. But how did I Dr. Into this? I don't know.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I was thinking for me, Jay Jay was going to call me House. That was going to be my name. What do you think it was a nickname? It's a nickname. House. No.

[Robert Kelly]

Okay, we'll work a tiny house.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Tiny house.

[Robert Kelly]

It's a working process. It's a working process.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. Because, I mean, this new song, it's probably one of. And I'm not just saying this, it's one of my favorite songs of yours.

[Billy Idol]

Great.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And I, you know, you're always nervous when a someone you love comes out with a new song or a new album. You're like, oh, come on, please be good. Please be good. I put it on this morning and me and my wife, because my wife's a fan, we were dancing in the kitchen to it. My son was embarrassed. But it is such a great you song because it's, it's. It's probably one of my favorite songs that you've done out of all.

[Billy Idol]

I mean, that was what we hoped and that's what we were doing. The mo for the album was we've got to make an album that somehow we play to our strengths. We don't redesign what we do. We don't try and compete with tomorrow, the modern world, because it's. That just would be ridiculous. But if we can make a nine song album that every song on it is killer and. And fresh, it's got to sound fresh or we're not putting anything out. And I think we came up with it. In fact, you know, what you're saying is, that's music to my ears.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It really is. Because you actually brought punk into the mainstream, like, so everybody can enjoy punk.

[Robert Kelly]

Well, that's what I was going to ask was punk, like. But before you got into music officially, was that that's what you were a fan of exclusively? Because I always thought it's interesting to see, like, an Alice Cooper for. Everyone knows what Alice Cooper is. There's pictures of his bands back in the year. They were more Beatles influence. So everybody's wearing suits and bowl cuts. Oh, I speak so and these iterations of people. Or did you, right from the gate, you were like, I want to be follow this kind of punk track?

[Billy Idol]

Well, we were just into that scene. We've been kind of gradually, you know, the Velvet Underground, David Bowie, Iggy Park. We were watching the Stooges and, you know, watching everything going on in America. And then the scene of CBGBs, we were watching that and dreaming into that, if you know what I mean. And it was this tiny scene, but that's what was really, you know, making us excited about rock and roll music. And then we wanted that in England. We wanted to create a scene like CBGB's in London. And that's kind of what we started. And we found out there was this band already, the Sex Pistols, who were kind of already doing that idea. They, you know, Malcolm McLaren, who managed them, had already managed the New York Dolls, you know, so it all made sense. And then, yeah, they kind of. The Pistols weren't that great. They were. They, you know, they were okay musicians, but every week you watch them, they got better, you know, and so you could see. And then they started to put in their new songs. And it was like. Songs like Pretty Vacant and Anarchy in the uk. And you went, oh, my God, these guys are writing anthems for our generation. It was like, we've got to be part of this, you know, so they opened this door up that I just sort of walked through it. And then now here I'm nearly. Next year be 50 years, you know, so it's ridiculous, but that's what happened. And somehow, yeah, it just all worked. And it was just really good fun. I mean, that was it. You know, we were just. They were telling you in England in those days that there was no future. That's what they were telling you. There's no future for your generous. Almost doing. They're almost doing that, you know. You know, you don't stand a chance. You've had it. You Know, so we just thought, well, why not do the thing you love then? You know, if there's no future, let's do the thing we love. And for me, it was music. Some other people maybe they picked up a camera and photographed the scene. And some other people who wanted to be journalists who weren't getting a shot, you know, they. They started a fanzine. So it was all kind of like, do it yourself. And. And then these. Some of these people became journalists, some of these people came photographers and I became a professional musician. And then with a 50 year next year. 50 year.

[Robert Kelly]

Did generation X come out to America with you or was that.

[Billy Idol]

We never came here. We broke up before we came here.

[Robert Kelly]

She came here completely solo.

[Billy Idol]

So. Okay. Yeah. I came here deliberately to New York to restart. To start my solo career because I kind of knew in England if I stay there, it's likely I'll end up propping up a bar, you know, and that's about it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Billy Idol]

Because in England, once you've. It's very. Things happen very quickly and people kind of get, oh, I've seen him, you know, it's over, you know.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah.

[Billy Idol]

So I sort of thought it's best if I go somewhere else and maybe have some kind of. Hopefully have some kind of success and then go back to England with that success. And then they'll be impressed. And that's exactly what. What happened.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

So you're saying I should move to England and then come back.

[Billy Idol]

Come back.

[Robert Kelly]

Speaking of comic. That's what Bill Hicks did. We have to wrap. Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

We got a rap. The new album is great. And you. Do you actually do songs with some other artists on it? You got. Yeah, have Lavine song is great.

[Billy Idol]

Joan J. Alison, Marta. It's all females. It's great.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Unbelievable, man. Great to see you.

[Robert Kelly]

We're gonna come see you when you come around.

[Billy Idol]

Yeah, we're definitely gonna imagine we're playing Madison Square Gardens.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah, I know.

[Billy Idol]

August 20th, I think.

[Robert Kelly]

Very, very excited. Make sure also Billy's nominated for the Rock and Roll hall of fame. Fame class 2025. Far, long overdue. I'd say quite 50 year career. That's crazy. And still.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And still rocking it with a hit song.

[Robert Kelly]

And still go. Yeah. Get Billy Idol in while he can perform well at the award ceremony.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Exactly.

[Billy Idol]

You never know what's going to happen.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

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[Robert Kelly]

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[Big Jay Oakerson]

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[Robert Kelly]

Edu.

[Katie Nolan]

Hi, I'm Katie Nolan from the Internet and cable tv. Or as your mom called me, that sports gal from Celebrity Jeopardy. I have a new podcast called Casual. It's a podcast for people who like sports a normal amount. No stats or spreadsheets, nary an X or O to be found, just laid back casual banter about home runs, hockey fights and good old fashioned drama. Casuals is a twice a week hang with me and my friends from across comedy, sports and entertainment where we talk about all the funny, weird, interesting stuff happening in and around the world of sports. Think Think of it as all the best things about sports with none of the homework. So whether you're a die hard fan or vaguely sports curious, Casuals is the podcast for you. You can find casuals on the SiriusXM app, Pandora or wherever you get your podcasts. And don't forget to smash that follow button. That way you'll never miss an episode. Just try it. You can always un smash it.