Dancing Magicians with Jim Florentine

Summary

The Bonfire with Big Jay Oakerson & Robert Kelly

Episode: "Dancing Magicians" with Jim Florentine
Date: September 5, 2025 | SiriusXM Faction Talk

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Overview

In this episode, Big Jay and Bobby welcome their longtime friend and fellow comedian Jim Florentine for a rollicking, inside-baseball discussion about the state of comedy, wild road stories, backstage tales from rock concerts, the evolving landscape of radio (with a focus on the rumored future of Howard Stern on SiriusXM), and the quirky world of "dancing magicians." The trio blends showbiz gossip, personal anecdotes, and their signature sharp humor to craft an episode full of laughs and surprising revelations.

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Key Topics & Discussion Points

I. Howard Stern's Future & SiriusXM Drama

(02:19–12:58)

• Stern Contract Rumors: The crew discusses the intense speculation about Howard Stern potentially leaving SiriusXM, with Florentine offering predictions based on industry rumors and his personal experiences.
  • “He's my prediction, he's going to sign for like two years, a two year contract.” — Jim Florentine (04:41)
  • “The rumor is they're going to make him an offer he will refuse, but I guess he could also not refuse it.” — Bobby Kelly (04:56)
• Impact of Stern's possible departure:
  • The effect on staff, the network, and their own show’s positioning if Stern leaves.
    “Now that fucking... You told the Sterns leaving. The money's going to be rolling in.” — Big Jay (07:49) “We’re bump up. I think we're just going to take a little of that Stern cash.” — Bobby (07:57)
• Stern and the Podcast Boom:
  • Debating whether Stern would ever do a podcast, with consensus that he prefers the traditional radio format and loyalty to his long-standing staff.
    • “I don't think he’ll do a podcast. He wants to still take care of his staff... get a couple more years out of it.” — Jim Florentine (06:02)
• Showbiz Culture:
  • Reflections on how the radio and podcasting world has changed—pipelines to fame, old school versus new media, and the challenges of building or replacing an institution like Stern.
    • “There’s so much stuff coming out now, if he's going to do a show a week, it's going to fall completely through the cracks.” — Big Jay (05:38)

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II. Howard Stern Show Anecdotes & the Comedy Circuit

(12:08–24:24)

• Behind-the-Scenes in Stern’s Studio:
  • Jim’s memories of wild in-studio moments: Jenna Jameson on the Sibian, Gary Busey wrestling with the staff, and what it was like for comics guest-hosting on Stern’s show. (12:44–13:41)
    • “I was there when Gary Busey… had a fight and they were rolling on the floor… I didn’t know if it was a joke or fake for the E Cameras.” — Jim Florentine (13:01)
• Comedy Road Stories:
  • Touring with Stern universe comics; the chaos of club and casino gigs; crowd expectations; how fame from Stern’s show would instantly sell out venues.
    • “He would plug a gig, 20 million people listen. Every show would sell out.” — Jim Florentine (17:42)
    • “The whole crew would go out and do the shittiest comedy shows ever.” — Bobby (17:53)
• Artie Lange’s Legendary Mayhem:
  • Hilarious and harrowing stories about performing and traveling with Artie Lange at the height of his substance abuse.
    • “By the time he's done with his set, he was fucking trash.” — Big Jay (15:35)
    • “To be bullied into drinking yourself sick is pretty hilarious. My audience go, boo. You're not going to drink 10 shots of Jagermeister?” — Bobby (16:25)
• Jay and Bobby’s Old-School War Stories:
  • Clashes between the Stern show and Opie & Anthony, Patrice O’Neal’s sensitivities, and the tribal nature of mid-2000s radio wars.
  • “You had to kinda pick a team... Patrice went over and did the show, but... it was just weird.” — Big Jay (21:05)

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III. Radio Money, Staff, and Career Paths

(23:10–32:08)

• How the SiriusXM System Works:
  • Payouts, staff raises, and how success trickles (or doesn’t) down from stars like Stern to crew to supporting shows.
  • “Everyone got huge raises when they came over to Sirius from Krock… with his $500 million contract.” — Jim Florentine (23:19)
• Comedy Industry Truths:
  • Reflections on how fleeting opportunities can be, what “making it” means across eras, and the strange hierarchy of showbiz.
    • “It is funny, for Artie — that was his dream job, it's like you really didn't hang on to it.” — Bobby (13:45)

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IV. Rosie O’Donnell "Price is Right" Segment

(24:46–27:46)

• How much to sleep with a celebrity?
  • A riotous, extended riff on what sum they’d need to sleep with Rosie O’Donnell, challenging each other to admit their "real" number.
    • “The real answer is $400. It's $0 or a million dollars. There’s no in between.” — Bobby (25:46)
    • “Yeah, I'd fuck Rosie O'Donnell for the story.” — Big Jay (26:09)
    • “But if it was Rosie, I would FaceTime you while I’m down eating her out.” — Big Jay (26:19)

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V. The Comedy/Magic Club Circuit

(44:13–47:58)

• Dancing Magicians and Comedy Openers:
  • Tales of emceeing for local magician-comics with wild acts—flaming candles, animal tricks, questionable masks, and small-town crowds.
  • “He came out, he had a half mask face on, and he did around 10 minutes of dance at the beginning… and then a dove just shot out.” — Big Jay (44:47)
  • “Starting off in the black comedy club, when a white magician comedian would get on stage… the audience gave him the respect of a demon.” — Bobby (45:28)
• The World of Magic Collectors:
  • Discussion of magicians’ secret props and bizarre collections, like Danny Braff’s collection of famous false thumbs. (46:32)

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VI. Music Industry Backstage and Rock Star Encounters

(51:06–59:16)

• Meeting Ozzy Osbourne and Metal Legends:
  • Florentine recounts getting to meet Ozzy after many previous encounters, seeing him in a wheelchair, and reflecting on the emotional weight of seeing aging rock stars.
    • “We’re saying goodbye to him; we're not going to see him again.” — Jim Florentine (51:28)
    • “When you met Ozzy, was it after or before [the show]?... There was a VIP thing, and they said Ozzy’s gonna come out.” — Big Jay (54:01)
• Visiting Rock History:
  • Sneaking into the location of the Black Sabbath album cover shoot with Jim Norton, having Ozzy post their picture, and the thrill for classic metal fans.
    • “We snuck in… Ozzy put it on his Instagram, so all the guys saw it.” — Jim Florentine (54:47)
• Legendary Tragedies & Tall Tales:
  • The infamous Randy Rhoads plane crash story is explored in depth, with rumors of sabotage and cocaine, as well as other music lore.
    • “The bus driver… thinks he crashed it on purpose.” — Jim Florentine (60:44)

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VII. Prank Calls, Special Ed, and New Ventures

(32:28–40:29)

• Jim Florentine’s Return to Pranking:

  • Jim discusses bringing his iconic “Special Ed” character and prank call style back, using incoming telemarketer calls as material.
    • “These are incoming… telemarketers call you and you fuck with them?” — Big Jay (39:04)
    • “Yeah, one guy wanted to kill me… said he’d come over with a shotgun.” — Jim (39:10)
  • Hilarious fallout from one prank involving a fake home abortion, resulting in police breaking down his door.
    • “The lady believed it… my credit card company called the cops.” — Jim Florentine (39:30)

• Technology & Recording Antics:

  • Musings about the nostalgia and terror of old house phones, how recording prank calls has changed, and the horrifying memories of weird phone calls in haunted settings.
    • “Christine got some antiquey looking rotary telephone… the horror movie-like terror I would feel whenever it rang.” — Big Jay (40:54)

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VIII. Memorable Quotes & Moments

• “To be bullied into drinking yourself sick is pretty hilarious.”
  — Bobby Kelly (16:25)
• “That was the thing. When Artie wants to leave, you leave. You just follow him. So I just followed him. And I left you in the dust.”
  — Jim Florentine (18:30)
• “Bus drivers are crazy. I mean, they're... their jobs nuts, dude.”
  — Big Jay Oakerson (64:01)
• “He would plug a gig, 20 million people listen. Every show would sell out.”
  — Jim Florentine (17:42)
• “Yeah, I'd fuck Rosie O'Donnell for the story.”
  — Big Jay Oakerson (26:09)

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Notable Timestamps

• Howard Stern contract gossip: 02:19–06:56
• Howard’s legacy and show business changes: 10:41–12:58
• Being in Stern's studio during infamous moments: 12:44–13:41
• Artie Lange’s wild drinking stories: 14:12–15:59
• Opie & Anthony vs. Stern tribe wars: 21:05–21:33
• Rosie O’Donnell "what's your price?" game: 24:46–27:46
• Prank call revival and home phone gags: 39:04–41:42
• Magic acts and comedy emcee tales: 44:13–47:58
• Meeting Ozzy Osbourne and Sabbath nostalgia: 51:06–56:06

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Tone

As always, the episode is loose, irreverent, and brutally honest. Friends for decades, Big Jay, Bobby, and Jim needle each other endlessly, moving easily from cynical showbiz analysis to crude, laugh-out-loud confessionals about their wild lives on the road and in the clubs.

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For New Listeners

Expect sharp-tongued banter, unfiltered stories from both the stand-up and rock worlds, and a heavy dose of inside jokes. But beneath the roasting, there’s thoughtful reflection on careers, friendships, legacies, and the strange, often ridiculous ways fame and infamy are made.

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Additional Links

• Jim Florentine Tour Dates & Special
• The Bonfire Show on SiriusXM Faction Talk, Channel 103
• Subscribe to The Bonfire Podcast

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Whether you’re a diehard Stern-head, a comedy nerd, or just a fan of off-the-rails conversations, this episode spotlights everything wild, weird, and wonderful about life in the worlds of stand-up and radio.

Transcript

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[Jim Florentine]

And now the bonfire with Big J Okerson and Robert Kelly.

[Bobby Kelly]

Jam on it. A jam on it. A jam. Jam the jam. The jam on it. Look at Luther is. You never look more like a DJ when you threw those headphones on right there. Everyone's going out to Sebastian on his 13th birthday. Welcome to manhood. Mazel tov. This is new shoes. But I can't wait.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I can't.

[Bobby Kelly]

I see it on the grand dance floor there, nana. Still got it. 75, long and lean.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

We got a crash on 93 north heading up to New Hampshire. So if you're heading up that way, you might want to take an exit and spin around and try to get over to Route 1. Or maybe 495 is backed up now, too. So hang in there, people. And we're here for you, Jay. We got the show today.

[Bobby Kelly]

I can't wait, baby. I can't wait. We have Jim Florentine joining the show today.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

But funny comedian Jim Florentine, he's playing the improv all weekend. 7 shows.

[Bobby Kelly]

17 shows. 17 shows we have right here. You know from Crank Yankers.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. Special ed can't do that now. Jim Florentine. Go to Jim florentine.com.

[Bobby Kelly]

He'S busy right now. I. We're letting him. We're vamping while he's saying goodbye to his friends out there. They're doing a little practice event for something tomorrow with Howard Stern. If you don't know if you live under a rock. Howard Stern has been aggressively fired by Sirius xm.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That's not true.

[Bobby Kelly]

Oh, no, you can't.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No, Jay, that is allegedly. You have to say the word allegedly.

[Bobby Kelly]

I heard. I heard they handed him his walking papers, literally. They called him in to the office.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Isn't it weird that you said he's gonna. He's not gonna be re signed and you want to take a spot? And then it happened. That news came out.

[Bobby Kelly]

It is wild. I said, we asked Jim about this.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

There he is, everybody.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Ladies and gentlemen, a friend of the show. A friend in life. I've known him for 30 years.

[Bobby Kelly]

30 years. Yo, that's the.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Jay doesn't like anybody sitting next to him. Dude, don't look him in the eye and don't touch him.

[Bobby Kelly]

I look him directly in the eye when he's.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

When he's across from you, but not next to you. You don't like side eye?

[Bobby Kelly]

Oh, I don't touched.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You don't like to be touched or side eyed.

[Bobby Kelly]

Bobby's gonna touch you, though, Jim. You will be touched by Bobby.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, I touch a lot of people.

[Bobby Kelly]

He's a touch talk.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I'm a touch talker. Jim Florentine, everybody. It's gonna be at side spinners in Tampa August 15th through the 17th. Tickets and all the tour dates go to Jim florentine.com. he's got a special, you can't please them all, streaming right now on Amazon Prime. What's up, brother?

[Jim Florentine]

What's going on, man?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

How you standing? Let's stand. Let's stand. Yeah, okay. Stand. He's filming. He's filming. He's filming.

[Bobby Kelly]

He's filming you guys right this second.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Okay. Yeah. What's up, buddy?

[Jim Florentine]

It's good to see you.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Are you wearing. What the. Are you. Where you. Would you go to? The Netherlands? Why do you have. Why do you have Dutch guy shorts on?

[Jim Florentine]

I was over in Amsterdam.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Why. Why are you painting during the day? What the. Do you. Do you have a side gig? What's going on, brother?

[Jim Florentine]

What's going on?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Nothing, dude. Good to see you, man.

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah, it's good to see you.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

How's the. How's the girl? Situate. You got a girlfriend? No.

[Bobby Kelly]

No.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. You just still clanging and banging?

[Jim Florentine]

Not as. You know.

[Bobby Kelly]

That means working out.

[Jim Florentine]

My audience is getting older.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Not when you're in your 50s. That's sex.

[Bobby Kelly]

Clanging, banging.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

Clanky bones. Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Clanging and banging. It's your bones. Yeah. Back. Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

You were out there seeing all the stern people are out there.

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

Gathering up sad times. Well. But no one even knows what the hell's going on.

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He's Jim. Does Jim. Breaking news right now. Tell us what's happening, you know?

[Jim Florentine]

Well, I don't know, but I do.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

We need.

[Jim Florentine]

He's my prediction, he's going to sign for like two years, a two year contract.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

So that's what they said.

[Bobby Kelly]

Oh, you do? Yeah, that's what they said.

[Jim Florentine]

No, that's what I just admitted it. You just, I mean, listen to a show for years and every time there's a contract cup, I don't know if I'm going to recite. Even though he didn't come out and say at this time.

[Bobby Kelly]

Well, the fact that they're saying, the rumor is they're going to make him an offer he will refuse, but I guess he could also not refuse it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

They're going to give the Jim Norton. They're going to give him the Jim Norton. We want to pay you less.

[Jim Florentine]

Well, yeah, he might get less, but then he'll negotiate maybe less days.

[Bobby Kelly]

Is it even possible to.

[Jim Florentine]

Or at this point with all that money he has, he'll probably just say, even if it's a big cut, a 50% cut, why not do it for a couple more years?

[Bobby Kelly]

I agree.

[Jim Florentine]

My staff. Because he's got a staff of 95 people.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Less days. How many, how many days?

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, I couldn't guess how many less days you could possibly do. He takes off, he goes, hey, we'll be back after this season.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, yeah, dude.

[Bobby Kelly]

Now listen, by the way, he's earned all of it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He's worse than Yellowstone.

[Bobby Kelly]

He's earned all of these. He's earned all of these things for sure. There's no debate about that at all. But it's like, what does he want to do? But it's so hard to follow. I mean, with the amount of stuff that comes out now, especially like audio, like medium, just podcast coming out like constantly that like, if he's going to do a show a week, it's going to fall like completely through the cracks.

[Jim Florentine]

What you mean a podcast? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think he'll do that because I think he wants to still take care of his staff. Yeah, yeah, because he knows they don't make a ton of money, get a couple more years out of it. Hey, Jim, real health insurance.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

We had a real big viral clip last week with Kim with some gossip. Maybe you can just lie and give us some fake gossip so we get another viral clip.

[Bobby Kelly]

Baba Bowie told you flat out out there, yeah. Howard Stern is not coming back and he's been sleeping with men in Florida. You heard it here first, everybody. Howard, Jim Thornton, he's gonna be at.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Side splitters on the 15th through the 17th.

[Jim Florentine]

I don't know, I don't have any. I just.

[Bobby Kelly]

Howard Stern's on the Epstein list. You heard it here first, folks.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

What are you freezing up on that for?

[Jim Florentine]

No, I'm just. You know, a lot of rich guys would take Epstein's plane down to Palm Beach.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Jim Florentine]

All the rich guys leaving New York would go, hey, gonna hitch a ride down there. And they jump on the plane.

[Bobby Kelly]

Could have been charted. I've. I've been on planes before that belong. They tell you who the celebrity is it belongs to. And that is a thing that. That celebrity kills somebody. You're on the ledger for that plane still. So that's what I'm saying.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Well, that's what they're saying a lot of.

[Bobby Kelly]

So if my world. If Dr. Phil rapes a child, I'm going to be somehow culpable in that.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Even if it's the guy who plays Dr. Phil.

[Bobby Kelly]

Even if it's a guy who plays. If.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Adam ray himself as Dr. Phil. They say that a lot of people. The reason why they didn't release the list is a lot of people were on that plane just for that reason. Leonardo DiCaprio, all these. Bruce Willis is on the ledger. You don't remember, but it's like, they didn't go. They were on the plane, but they, you know, they weren't fucking kids.

[Jim Florentine]

Well, yeah, they didn't go to the island. They went to Palm Beach.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Right? They went.

[Jim Florentine]

So all the rich guys. Bon Jovi lives down there. Rush Limbaugh might have been on that plane.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. Just bought a place down there.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, I'm probably going to get down there.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, we got the bonfire pad. You want to go, let us know.

[Jim Florentine]

With this serious money you guys are making.

[Bobby Kelly]

Oh, hell yeah, dude.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Now that fucking. You told the Sterns leaving. The money's going to be rolling in.

[Jim Florentine]

I know. I'm going to get a raise on Ozzy's boneyard. I'm making another $25 out of them.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, I think me and Bobby, I think this. We're bump up. I think we're just going to take a little bit of that Stern cash. Yeah, I say we settle in about three mil apiece, easy by next year.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Three million a piece. And you know what? Maybe parking.

[Bobby Kelly]

And then also parking. And then also Howard Stern's old studio completely outfitted with everything it has.

[Jim Florentine]

Look, maybe they're thinking about you guys taking this place. They're not going to be a slot.

[Bobby Kelly]

I appreciate that.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Seven of these $9,000 cameras. Yeah, yeah. We have to hire a Filipino to come in and use a handheld dj fucking go something.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jim Florentine]

But that's going to be an open slot if he does go, so you never know.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Well, we do. We do.

[Bobby Kelly]

I do know for a fact. Well, here's what I would say. It would have to take at this point, the way people consume the stuff and on demand and everything we are. Some people's. A lot of people's morning show because they listen to it Tuesday through Friday in the mornings because they listen to it on demand. The idea now of like having a job where you got to get up. I mean, it killed Artie Lang almost the job.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, the heroin helped, right?

[Bobby Kelly]

Well, he was just in the worst. Like he never slept. Like, it's a life of like he was going to make a gazillion dollars. And I get it on the road every weekend. And then waking up to be at a job alert and funny at 6am it's fucking wild. I wish we had it on camera. The way you leapt into that chair.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Ah, yeah, that was.

[Bobby Kelly]

I mean, it was dangerous. Dramatic motion for unnecessary. But I liked it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Very stunt guyish. Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

You're like Luke Duke.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Luke Duke.

[Bobby Kelly]

Which one slid across? Was it Bo? Always slid across. Right. And Luke just jumped in.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Luke was a driver.

[Bobby Kelly]

No, who was the driver? Bo.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Bo, He. The blonde?

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, he's the blonde, isn't it? Bo and Luke Duke?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, it's Bow and Luke Duke. But which one was the blonde? Which one was. I don't know. Which one was Luke?

[Bobby Kelly]

Well, the dark hair guy. I forget their names now. The. The dark hair one, Luke Duke went crazy. Then he become like a nutty. Like, not religious, but like, did he get political? Tom Womack? Tom.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't know. I mean, me and Jacob would not think he's crazy. We would think he's actually, you know, dealing with common sense, reality. Yeah, you know, woke. Woke Hollywood. People like you would probably think he went crazy.

[Bobby Kelly]

Why? Is. Because, Amy, the. Amy Schumer's done a lot of nice things for me in my career and I acknowledge that that bothers you.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I'm just saying that you don't like Jesus Christ, our Lord and savior. You think he's bullshit.

[Bobby Kelly]

I'm a Hollywood Jew.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You are.

[Bobby Kelly]

You know, I'm a fucking Hollywood Jew. I'm a. As a fan, you have to be. I'm also even getting that new hearing that news that Stern, like could be done. It seems surreal. Like if he does stop, it's fun. I mean, here's the thing. It's going to happen one day. If it's this contract or not. But, I mean, it's.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He's been doing radio for how long, jay?

[Jim Florentine]

Since, like, 82?

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, forever. I started listening when I was 12, so I know when I started listening, it's.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It's crazy. And he's been number one for how long? I mean, for 30 years. 40 years, easy.

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

I mean, 30.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, he. He changed radio. I mean, he did it all. I mean, now, I mean, if I had that much money and I had all that stuff and a wife and all kinds of dogs and cats or whatever, I'd be done. I don't know. I don't know. I would just stomp. I'd be like, I'm out. But, you know, it must be hard because all these guys that work for him, did they save their money? Did they do the right thing? Because, you know, all that kind of.

[Bobby Kelly]

Money, though, like, that about. I was just talking to somebody about this, that all that kind of money creates a boredom that I guess has to be nuts when you could just make impulse decisions. Like, I'm bored, so I'm gonna, like, I'm gonna buy a Lamborghini this week. It doesn't even hit your bottom line at all, because it's just that that's boring. It's supposed to be a very boring life. I think Howard Stern, if he's not doing this.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

I don't know if he knows if he wants to just be. You know, I mean, just, like, he has a life where it's like, there's nothing to want anymore.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Sucks that our staff, whether our show's on the air or not, are the same.

[Bobby Kelly]

Everything's absolutely fine. They're like, nothing changes.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It doesn't get any better or any worse.

[Jim Florentine]

I think he wants to go out his own way. Like, he's not just gonna. Just that this is gonna be it. And he won't even do a podcast. I don't think he'll do a podcast.

[Bobby Kelly]

No. He said so.

[Jim Florentine]

I think he would sign another year and do a whole, like, year celebration. All celebrities coming in the following last year, like Derek Jeter did his last year of baseball. Like, every city goes in, whatever. So I think that's what he would do, people.

[Bobby Kelly]

But that last run, hurrah, again, who knows? I mean, you only hear, like, the vocal haters of stuff. Of things. But, I mean, that's what literally, people are turning on him about, is that it's just, like, a Hollywood show now kind of idea. So it's interesting to see, like, if his last Hurrah year. He goes, you know what? Let's get Jennifer Aniston back in here. Because that's what everyone's kind of like, that'd be great.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Just brought this Sibian back in.

[Jim Florentine]

Oh, I was. I was in studio when Jenna Jameson was on the Sibian.

[Bobby Kelly]

Wow.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

What'd you do?

[Jim Florentine]

It was insane.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah. You were there for some. Some heyday.

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah, insane. I was there when Gary Busey. Him and Gary Busey had a fight and they were rolling on the floor.

[Bobby Kelly]

I was in studio.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Did you see grab him?

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Like, just got too physical.

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

But he headlocked him and drug him on the ground.

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah, he, like. He, like, gave Robin a bear hug, and then he went over to Fred and then he went over to Howard. He was like, grabbing him and wrestling with him.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Jim Florentine]

Howard stood there. It was only like my second day on the air. He's like, how come you didn't jump in? Howard saying, I go, look, I didn't know if this was a joke or fake for the E Cameras.

[Bobby Kelly]

I wasn't doing, oh, is that a Jackie chair? Like, run.

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

When you're over there having people in it for like a week, that was cool as a fan, too, as people I knew were, like, getting shots to hear Jim on there. Craig Gass, I think, did a week.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Fitzy.

[Bobby Kelly]

Did Fitzma do a week?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, Fitzy did, too. Yeah. That was like the job. Everybody was. I mean, that job would have been great. Now, do you think that I know already got it, but do you think if you got it, you'd probably still. You would still be there? You wouldn't have that?

[Jim Florentine]

I wouldn't. I would have never. Never it up. I would have stayed there forever.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Right.

[Bobby Kelly]

Of course. Oh, yeah. I mean, it is funny, like, for already saying that was his dream job. It's like you really didn't hang on to it at all. And it wasn't the job that was killing him. It was like, obviously the way he chose to, like, run it like that. But it is interesting. People that are just broadcasters do not understand, like, especially me and Bob. I do a zillion hours a week on Broadway and then we travel all weekend. Howard Stern doesn't have to do that, you know, I mean, like, it's interesting to see, like, somebody put that time into it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Jim Florentine]

The money was just too tempting priority out there because I would always do the shows with them on the road. I remember, you know, getting like 80 grand casino for one night, you know, 20 years ago.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Right.

[Jim Florentine]

Well, I would do that. And then I would towed already, too. And then everybody would give him drugs, whether he was sober or not.

[Bobby Kelly]

Oh, yeah.

[Jim Florentine]

Door to hand them to me to give it to him. So I would just throw.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

But even during the show, people would walk up with shots.

[Jim Florentine]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

His whole set. By the time he's done with his set, he was fucking trash.

[Bobby Kelly]

I went with him to Pittsburgh one time, and they had a guy with him. This one's like a handler, sort of. It was his old tour manager. Something came to kind of be his handler and just sort of make sure he stayed straight and narrow. And we drove out to Pittsburgh and then. Talk about a scary thing when you. I have his car, basically, like, I'm driving and his people are all with him. And he just came in. Clearly somebody in the audience offered him, like, drugs. And their chicks, I guess, were hanging out and stuff, and they were going back to this guy's house to do drugs and art. Just the fabricated fight he started with his handler to just be like, you know, I mean, screaming at him in front of the audience and everything. Like, just outside the comedy club, the Pittsburgh Improv, just to be like, fuck you. You don't tell me what to do. And then just going, come on, guys. And just Artie walk off into the night with two couples. Just some random trash people. It was pretty wild.

[Jim Florentine]

One time at the funny bone in St. Louis, he was middle on stage. He had to do three shows on that. It was the five o' clock show. And the waitress comes up to the stage in the middle of his set with 10 shots of Jagermeister on a tray. And he goes, who's this for? They go, it's for you. The audience bought him for. He goes, look, I got two more shows. I can't do that. I was open, and the whole crowd just started booing them. And he just took 10 in a row and put them right down. And he was passed out in between the shows. You could barely get him up for the seven and then the nine.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I used to do that with cupcakes during my shows.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

But I'll tell you, killed me.

[Bobby Kelly]

The. The. The recoil. And that's not as bad. Gino Bisconti did that once on Legion of Skanks, like, jokingly, because they. They brought him, like, a glass of, like, whiskey, like, a tall glass of it. And I think Lewis made some joke about him. Just do it. And he just did. He, like, chugged it where we were begging him to stop while he was doing it. I'm like, I think this is going to put you in the hospital. Like, you can't do that. That's fucking wild.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Not Gino.

[Bobby Kelly]

To be bullied into drinking yourself sick is pretty hilarious. My audience go, boo. You're not going to drink 10 shots of Jagermeister. You're not going to Davitel numbers when he drank.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You're not gonna do any of that heroin. You.

[Bobby Kelly]

You know, this guy's afraid of the.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Lady H. This guy's afraid of rehab, man.

[Bobby Kelly]

What is this here, Christine, you have up now?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Do you still just. Howard ever talk to you? Do you ever talk to him? He ever email you or text you or anything?

[Jim Florentine]

I hear from him through email or Facebook once in a while.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, he'll hit you up. Yeah. What does he say?

[Jim Florentine]

He's. Hey, how's it going? I listen to your show in Ozzy's Boneyard. Hope everything's good and all that. Yeah, I'm still in touch with everybody over there. I still do the wrap up show over there. The main show. It's all a list celebrity. They're not gonna have a dirt bag like me on.

[Bobby Kelly]

It's those days. I used to.

[Jim Florentine]

The guy had me on years, man. I can't complain.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Jim Florentine]

If it wasn't for him, but who knows where I'd be right now?

[Bobby Kelly]

No.

[Jim Florentine]

So absolutely huge.

[Bobby Kelly]

You said you went on good years too, to go on. I know I've said that. That it's like the. It's just those days are over where you're gonna have a reason to get on now. Where it's like, hey, I have a new special album.

[Jim Florentine]

It's on YouTube. She sure you don't want to have me on?

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, yeah. At very best, it'll be a thing where you could be a part of like we can introduce him as like a comedian judge for like whose trans cock is this? Or something. Which I would do. I would absolutely do.

[Jim Florentine]

No, he would plug a gig. 20 million people listen. Every show would sell out. You know, Funny Bone, Pittsburgh, all five shows. Mine would sell out.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Jim Florentine]

That's how crazy it was back in that day, dude.

[Bobby Kelly]

They would have. The whole crew would go out and do the shittiest comedy shows ever.

[Jim Florentine]

I know.

[Bobby Kelly]

I was part of them and I did them too.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

We did. We did. You Stuttering John and Artie. Right in, in. In the. Was it Universal Studios?

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah, right.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Is that where we went?

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. That was wild.

[Jim Florentine]

There were animals.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

They were animals. And then you guys all left me and I had to get a ride back to the hotel from a Couple that was at the show who I think wanted to. Around. But I was so panicky. I. And I didn't even know where we were staying. I like how to figure. I had like, guess.

[Jim Florentine]

Well, that was the thing. When Artie wants to leave, you leave. You just follow him. So I think that's when he just wanted to get the hell out of there. So I just followed him. And I left you in the dust.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, I mean, hot dust. I mean, thank God. I. I had to like. Like Sherlock Holmes. It was near this thing with this other thing next to this, and they were like, I think it's this. And they drove me back.

[Jim Florentine]

That's how we had to walk through that whole crowd to get to the venue. And Audi was freaking out.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And Stuttering John, where the. Have you talked to him?

[Jim Florentine]

Do you talk to that guy once in a while?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

There's the stuff I watch on YouTube. There's podcasts multiple dedicated to just shitting on Stuttering John. I've never met him once in my life.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Really?

[Bobby Kelly]

I have no. I have no opinion either way on it, but it is hilarious. They just have podcasts. It's like. Like they did with Corey Feldman now. It's just the whole podcast is just shitting on.

[Jim Florentine]

But now he. He went away. Whenever he leaves, they got no material because they would just watch his podcast and then talk about his clips.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Jim Florentine]

So then he disappears for like six months and they start digging back from like 20 years ago. Here's an old clip from. From 1996. We're gonna rip. Because he. And he's like, good, I'm gonna starve, you guys.

[Bobby Kelly]

But he does give me stuff, though. He'll get hammered and just like, dude, his.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

His hammered rage.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And he just starts spitting it. It's pretty funny.

[Bobby Kelly]

Pretty funny.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Does he live with his mom? He lives down in Florida with his mom, right?

[Jim Florentine]

No, no, his mom's in Long Island. He's down in like Cape Coral.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Because I remember when he was. I mean, he was working on the Tonight show and he had the wife and the kids and the car, and he was running those shows. And it was almost like I was just coming up. This was like before Torgasm or anything of that. And I got on that show, I was like, holy shit. I got close. Getting close to Stern's universe was fucking cool as shit.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah. But it was thing you're putting it. It is wrong what you're doing, though. You're doing what people see in you with somebody who is Nowhere near, like, the talent or reason for people to be excited as you. Like, Howard Stern anointed these people, so that would be frustrating. Doing those shows is seeing people outside be like, move me out. Move it, fatso. I want to touch JD and reaching out and like, whoa, man. They're fucking like, celebrity.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Once you did the show, though, all those fans were on, you know what I mean?

[Jim Florentine]

They were. But you know who would get the biggest applause is Beetlejuice. He would just go out there and mumble and then a mic, you know, one can follow him. We had to put him on last, of course.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It was hard for me too, because I was with Opie and Anthony and Obi. You know, they started that fucking beef. So it was almost like you had it. There was a point where you had to kind of pick a. Pick a team. You know what I mean?

[Jim Florentine]

Right.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It was kind of weird. Patrice went over and did the show, but that was. It was just weird.

[Bobby Kelly]

And then he got mad.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He got mad because of him.

[Bobby Kelly]

The fat, fat Brazilian comedian goes to Brazil.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Fat comedian that goes to Brazil. He goes, I'm not going on the show anymore. I was like, why? He goes, because I don't want to be the fat comedian. He thinks I'm the fat comedian that went to Brazil.

[Bobby Kelly]

He took it very, very first.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, that hurt his feelings.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, which I got. And what's funny is, I think when Stern, like, Patrice passed away. When Patrice passed away, whatever that used to be.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Fat.

[Jim Florentine]

Bald.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Bald guy from Boston.

[Bobby Kelly]

When Patrice died, it came up on the show. Someone pointed it out, you know, some news or whatever, that Patrice died, and he said the thing goes.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

He goes, I think that guy, like, didn't, like, like me or something. He was mad at me at the end. And then he just kind of redoes it again. He goes, I don't know, cuz I just, like I described him, I guess, is like. Like, fat guy, the fat comic went to Brazil. But it's like, he's a big fat guy and he went to Brazil. Like, what's my thing? And he was just describing. It's like, what's the big deal, man? Which did fucking make me laugh. I know. I keep hearing this, too. There's. There's rumors that he's psyched about the contract coming to an end. I like all the speculation. And in the meantime, he just popped on the air on Saturday. I'm just like, here's just an interview with me and Lars Ulrich. I'm not going to talk about it at all. I think it Was a prerecorded interview or something.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Smart. He's smart. He love. I mean, he's all this buzz going around. How great is that? He loves it.

[Bobby Kelly]

It's two schools of thought. Some people are saying he's not liking this at all.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Really?

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah. Well, he has nothing to really stand to gain from. Like what? He's probably not. Yeah. But what he's not liking is it's not free publicity. What they're saying is all the things are going, he's gonna leave because his numbers aren't what they were and they're not gonna pay him what they're. He doesn't want that to be the story.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

But I don't. I don't know, though. I think that if he's gonna. If he. If he's doing it for his team to continue to make money, he can come and he probably. And he loves broadcasting. You know that he loves doing the show. He loves.

[Bobby Kelly]

Well, he says he hates it, but he. Yeah, he loves it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He loves it. He loves doing radio. And if he's gonna come back on a small thing, make some money, and he's gonna have to divvy that money out to his crew. Cause I'm pretty sure he takes that money he makes and he has to pay those guys through that.

[Jim Florentine]

Sirius pays now.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, really?

[Jim Florentine]

It used to be the original contract. He had to take it out of his money.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Okay.

[Jim Florentine]

But everyone got huge raises when they came over to Sirius from Krock.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Jim Florentine]

You know, already went from like. Like 300,000, like 800 because they had so much more money here. With his $500 million contract, right now.

[Bobby Kelly]

Jacob makes 2.1 million a year.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. He puts it all into sweatshirts. It's all Tesla and sweatshirts. Yeah, Tesla sweatshirt. And he bought a turtle. Did he buy a turtle farm? Did you have one? Did you wind up buying that? He bought a turtle farm in Vermont. Yeah. He bought the road that the turtles cross. Yeah, it's a turtle crossing more so. Right.

[Bobby Kelly]

Oh, it would be here because of Howard, though.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

What's that? I just want to work where Howard worked. I thought. I thought it was because of Dan and Big J. But no, I was before them.

[Bobby Kelly]

He was here way before us.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Really?

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah. Even. And DJ Lou, too. DJ Lou has. He went through the.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He was on.

[Bobby Kelly]

He had to go through the failure process of Jim Brewer and Pete Corieli, But Jim Brewer, remember that colossal failure.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That was actually a hit for a while.

[Bobby Kelly]

Is it really? Then why is he here with us now?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, because he. Yep. All Right. You're right. It ran for eight years.

[Bobby Kelly]

What's that?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

We were on the air for eight years.

[Bobby Kelly]

I've been on the air for 11 years.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Well, you're the winner then. How does it feel? I've been up for two and a half years. I was with Rosie o' donnell for two years.

[Bobby Kelly]

You hate her, though.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

You said she was abusive.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

She was. But if you're good at your job, she gave you a lot of gifts. You said she made you may. She made you eat her out when.

[Bobby Kelly]

You were bad and called you the F word.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. Yeah, she did. She called you an orange peel face while you ate her out. Shut up, Bob.

[Bobby Kelly]

Is there any truth to that?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Is that. Did she made you dry a Suzuki truck?

[Bobby Kelly]

She made you keep that soul patch on your chin because she would fart in it?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, that's what she did. Right? Isn't that what happened, too? Did you have to shave around pits and actually do it?

[Bobby Kelly]

We're already getting sued. Let's just open this thing up.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Open it up.

[Jim Florentine]

What if she offered you like 50 grand as a bonus and you had a banger one night?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

50 grand. For 50 grand, it's. Yeah, I'd have to negotiate a little higher. Come on.

[Bobby Kelly]

Liar.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You're lying.

[Jim Florentine]

How much?

[Bobby Kelly]

You know, can I, Jim, to what you're saying here? Me and Bobby had a conversation outside that was interesting on something like this, and Rosie o' DONNELL is a great example for who to use. He goes, how much would it cost for you to fuck this person? And the real number, when it was this big ugly lady outside you were pointing out, I was like, see, here's the problem. The real, the real answer looked like.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Tim Dillon in a sundress.

[Bobby Kelly]

Absolutely. The real answer.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Give me a little context.

[Bobby Kelly]

The real answer is 400 bucks.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

Nothing crazy.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

450.

[Bobby Kelly]

Maybe 450 bucks. But the thing is, if you're saying that to the world, your number, you got to give. You have to go, oh, dude, like, you know, a million dollars, probably I would do that when the answer is really $400. So you might as well just say for free because do it for the story.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, do it for the story.

[Bobby Kelly]

It's $400. It's $0 or a million dollars. There's no in between or anything.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Like, yeah, you'd. I mean, I'd fuck Rosie o' DONNELL for the story. That'd be great. And I, you know, if you.

[Bobby Kelly]

But if, but if not, it's not Rosie o'. Donnell. It's just someone who looks Like Rosie o'.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Donnell. But if it was, if it was Rosie, I would FaceTime you while I'm down eating her out.

[Bobby Kelly]

You know, I'd be like, are you blowing Glenn Beck?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Is that Glenn Beck's microphone? No, it's just a white Rosie pussy.

[Bobby Kelly]

She looks so bad. Her mouth looks like an.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I know she's got that because she's Irish. I forgot. You forget. She's just a mick.

[Bobby Kelly]

She got an mouth.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, she had that dried up potato mouth.

[Bobby Kelly]

I'm not, I'm not gonna fight. I'm not gonna argue this with you all day, but I'll say it again. ROSIE o'. DONNELL There's a period of time where her face was all right.

[Jim Florentine]

It wasn't bad.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, no, it was all right.

[Bobby Kelly]

Cute face. Cute face. Enough that I would have gone through. It's beyond that. It's past. That's when she was like, first doing comedy.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, right there.

[Bobby Kelly]

Huh?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I, I liked Rosie o'.

[Bobby Kelly]

Donnell. She hates you. Oh, no, she'd love you. Oh, she loved Chris Munch down on your chooch.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Love it. You love your little, little jumpers you wear all the time with jeans. She loves that outfit. Jumpers, whatever. That thing is yours. A leotard with jeans. It's a tank top. No, that thing tucks in downtown.

[Bobby Kelly]

Oh, Bobby likes a picture. Bobby likes a picture that all of your shirts touch your.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, I want all your shirts to have a button down there, you cooch. I want a button near your button. Yeah, she was all right.

[Bobby Kelly]

She did go through some busted looks though, too, huh?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

She looks like Joe Mackey half her career.

[Bobby Kelly]

And now she lives in Ireland, right?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, she lives in Ireland and they're, they're taken to her. She's on TV over there all the time. She's. I think she's, she's gonna become an Irish citizen. Well, Trump was trying to take her citizenship for talking, which is.

[Bobby Kelly]

I love it just for her.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I mean, this country stands for whatever.

[Bobby Kelly]

Let me see. That's the funny. Is that Dave's bit, Dave Smith's joke or whatever he said about what they try to Conor Trump. And he was like, what about what you said about women calling women fat? And he was like, just Rosie o'. Donnell.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

She's a pig.

[Jim Florentine]

Oh, yeah, you go, yeah, you call just Rosie o'.

[Bobby Kelly]

Donnell.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I met, I met her at an airport at. I think it was Westchester Airport.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah. In the bathroom.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. We diked out and it was, I was like, hey, I'm a guy. She's like, I don't Care. You look like a woman.

[Bobby Kelly]

Tell her to your voluptuous body.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Tell her to your voluptuous lesbian. Did you have a tub of. That's when I was fatter and I was eating a cruller. Was blowing it. No, I met her and she looked at me and I looked at her and I, you know, I didn't want to fuck it. She's like, hey. I'm like, hey. She's like, yeah, where you going? I was like, going to Key West. I think I was going to Key west or something.

[Bobby Kelly]

She said hey first.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

She said, hey.

[Jim Florentine]

She knows you.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't know who said hey. It might have been me, but it was hey, hey. It was hey, hey. I think it was her. It was actually her.

[Jim Florentine]

Does she know?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I was nervous.

[Jim Florentine]

She knows you.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

She might have known me at that point from Louis.

[Jim Florentine]

Okay.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

A lot of like, people, stars or famous people knew me from. Because I was one of the only reoccurring people on Louie, you know.

[Jim Florentine]

So I died on the way. So I was never going to be recurring.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Dude. There was an episode of Louie that we filmed this stuff where I had. Dude, it got weird. Like there was having sex with me from behind and then he was just going to my lips and then I had a. Norton was in it. He had a rabbit head on and was doing weird shit.

[Bobby Kelly]

Oh, was it a David lynch episode?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It was some weird. It was a dream sequence.

[Bobby Kelly]

But was there a David lynch episode of Louis or something?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

They made weird, man. I remember. But he edited a lot of shit that we did out. Thank God.

[Bobby Kelly]

I bet that's what it was. It was that episode played.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He was like his coach to be.

[Bobby Kelly]

A late night host.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No, this was a dream sequence, okay? Last one of the last seasons. Norton was in it. Norton, we're all in this dream and it was some weird. I don't know, weird. Some weird stuff. I remember there was one part where I had a. I had a rat. A horse head on or.

[Jim Florentine]

You sure you're not just wishing this?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, maybe this is just when I. A fantasy I had.

[Bobby Kelly]

Is this your dream journal you're reading?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I am on peptides and I'm sleeping a lot deeper. I might be. I might be. Peptide Gaydreaming. That's funny. If that episode never existed. I made it all up.

[Jim Florentine]

The are you talking.

[Bobby Kelly]

There is no season three of Louis.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

What?

[Bobby Kelly]

Well, here's the hope and Howard Stern figure something out. They're gonna keep his catalog. I hope for at least a while that's that.

[Jim Florentine]

I think they have it Till for two years.

[Bobby Kelly]

At least.

[Jim Florentine]

Two years after.

[Bobby Kelly]

Two years after. But I think they want to negotiate. Keep that more. I think people would stay subscribed out of the combination of laziness versus just like, oh, but you could always listen to, like, the Best of Howard, which is definitely a kill time.

[Jim Florentine]

But I feel like if it ends badly between them, between Sirius and Howard, he's not gonna give him their catalog past that one year after. He won't.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Now, is there anybody. Is there anybody out there who. In radio. I mean, do they make radio guys? Is there anybody out there that is like, as I could step into that morning spot on Sirius?

[Bobby Kelly]

How about your Mike, Calta? You love him.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I love my cow. To my number one best friend. Hurtful. Not to you.

[Bobby Kelly]

Not to her. Because it definitely wasn't her.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No, definitely. I mean, if you. I'm your number one best bag friend. You are my bag slut girl.

[Bobby Kelly]

Hey, you're embarrassing me in front of my heavy metal friend, Buddy.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I'm sorry. I apologize. Listen to me.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yes.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You're my number one best friend. Comedy friend.

[Bobby Kelly]

Okay?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And radio friend. He's my number one best friend. Universe friend.

[Bobby Kelly]

Oh, God.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

Any radio.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And he listens.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

So I have to make sure.

[Bobby Kelly]

I say, oh, yeah, I'm sorry. I can let you come over and borrow my jet skis.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, and also his jet skis. He also.

[Bobby Kelly]

Kelto doesn't have jet skis.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Also, somebody's going to be on his show this week, you know?

[Bobby Kelly]

Oh, yeah, Calta, Friday morning.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. You can't trust Florentine Florence. He will throw you the bus just for shits and giggles. He did play a retarded puppet for a lot of years.

[Jim Florentine]

I'm bringing it back, too, now.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Are you bringing him back on your own?

[Jim Florentine]

On my own.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You own it. You're not going to travel like ship with no hello.

[Jim Florentine]

Yay. Dude, I probably could have made $2 million in one tour if I did that back in the day.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Here's the tour.

[Jim Florentine]

I just couldn't do it. I said, what am I going to do after that?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I'll tell you.

[Jim Florentine]

Like, I can make this money, but how do I go back on a tour? So I couldn't do it, but I could have easily done it in one year.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You and Chip should go on the road together. You go out first, then Chip, and then you guys come out together.

[Bobby Kelly]

If you just did. Forget even touring on it. If you just did. If you have the puppet itself and you could do just like an Internet show with the puppet people, would lose their fucking minds.

[Jim Florentine]

That's what we're trying to do at Cast Digital. I'm working on it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, boy.

[Bobby Kelly]

Oh, Jesus Christ.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Jesus Christ. You really took this, the wind out of this fucking sale.

[Jim Florentine]

No, I don't know. I mean, yeah, but I do the pop. I don't do the body.

[Bobby Kelly]

Brain Coffee presents the special ed show.

[Jim Florentine]

I don't work the puppet.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Let's see.

[Jim Florentine]

Norton just does it in his regular character. I'd have to be under a table.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No, Norton is the puppet.

[Bobby Kelly]

The Puerto Rican Rattlesnake presents special ed.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, but he's got. But Lewis is going to do the puppet for a couple weeks because he can't get somebody to do it.

[Bobby Kelly]

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[Big Jay Oakerson]

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[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, you can.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You can get somebody to do the puppet. Get a little dude to do it or a puppeteer to do the puppet, and then you do the voice and doing. Do a YouTube show.

[Jim Florentine]

You know who did it for me is Dylan over at gas. Oh, yeah, yeah. Because he said that he was in. When he was a kid, he loved crank anchors. He went a pup. His mom got him a puppet. He was a puppeteer. That was because we were filming the there. He's like, I'll do it. I go, good, please, I don't want to do this. And he's amazing at it. Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

That's awesome.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Those are all his friends when he was a kid. Now he has Big J. Now Big J is his big puppet.

[Bobby Kelly]

That's hilarious. Dylan's gonna be here after the show. We're live streaming tonight.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You should have special ed on tonight. No, no, Tonight. Carried away. You need to prepare. So do you have to now when? Because when you did special ed, you just called people up as special Ed. Right. Are you going to do that? Like prank phone calls?

[Jim Florentine]

Well, these are incoming. I do them, you know, I'll do an incoming telemarketer. So it's a little different than the crank angers who's outgoing calls.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

So do you have all these telemarketers call you?

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And you with them?

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, that's great. Have you. Did you make somebody snap yet?

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah, one guy wanted to kill me, said he could come over and now some other dude came out, he's going to kill me with a shotgun.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Did you know you're a puppet?

[Jim Florentine]

No, that was when I was doing my regular voice. Oh, you just did with him?

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, Jesus. Jesus. Right?

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah. I've had cops come to the house, kick my door down.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No, stop it. Why?

[Jim Florentine]

Well, I did a call where I was pretending I was giving my girlfriend a home abortion.

[Bobby Kelly]

Nice.

[Jim Florentine]

Not a vacuum going on. And she was screaming. And the lady believed it. She had my number. She hung up. She had my address right in front of us. My credit card company said I called the cops.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You should have got a bloody steak and stuck it in the end of a vacuum.

[Jim Florentine]

I had no idea. Like me, I went out, do a good coffee or whatever like that. I came home, my door was busted and all the neighbors were out there to go to. Cops are here, ems, ambulance, because they thought some woman was bleeding upstairs. So they kicked my door in the ch.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That's up, man.

[Bobby Kelly]

Are all the classic stuff still up on YouTube? I used to watch those all the time. The telemarketing terror or terrorizing telemarketer stuff with you and Don. Those were so great.

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah, we just did an album like two about a year ago. Yeah, yeah, we're gonna do another one.

[Bobby Kelly]

It's difficult to do now with like everything.

[Jim Florentine]

Well, I got a whole. I got home phone, so I got it connected so the. The phone just rings constantly.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, you have a phone phone?

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah, I got a phone phone, so. And I got a recorder hooked up to the phone.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Right.

[Jim Florentine]

So I remember I didn't do them for like five years. And I took the home phone out, I didn't need it, and I plugged it in and as soon as I plugged in, it was the same window company called me from five years ago. I don't know if it was the same guy, but it was the same companies.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Hello, is Jim there?

[Bobby Kelly]

Well, funny. It's funny.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You have a recorder. Do you have to push playing record at the same time?

[Jim Florentine]

I don't even have to. It's just like a little thing. It just automatically records as soon as.

[Bobby Kelly]

I pick it up.

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah, that's a smart.

[Bobby Kelly]

Christine got some antiquey looking rotary telephone that she plugged in at our apartment. The last apartment we were in here and I never even thought about it because we're not. I wouldn't even. I couldn't tell you what the number is or anything, but she had it plugged in. And the terror, the horror movie like terror I would feel whenever it rang. It just seemed like. Like who could be calling on that? It gotta be a ghost. Oh, and also I think it was a broken antique phone. So the 50 times that happened in the couple years we lived there, 10 of them or so I picked it up and you just go, hello? Hello? But no one hears you, no one's saying anything. So I think it's a broken phone. So it would just ring and then so I'd answer it and it would never be. It was like fucking with me.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It was actually just a ghost in the phone for me. From the haunted house.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It also wasn't a ring. It was like a. Remember, it was just like a buzzing sound almost.

[Bobby Kelly]

I don't know, it was uncomfortable.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It worked when I first got it and then I dropped it. Never worked again. It's like. That's like in the hotel room when somebody calls you from the hotel room phone. That ring is so shocking. I know you know, I mean, I like to. I like to do that to like, if I'm on the road with a comic, I'll call from downstairs, the front. Just because I know. And they just go. They always answer. Hello? Hey, what's up, man? What the. I didn't even know was a phone in here.

[Jim Florentine]

That's the first thing I do, is unplug that phone when I get in the hotel.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

So loud. To hear regular. A house phone is shockingly loud.

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Because mine is my. My ringtone is Otto.

[Jim Florentine]

And George got kicked out of a hotel for making prank calls. He was calling people in the hotel, different rooms and with them.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I love that.

[Jim Florentine]

You trying to talk dirty. Yeah. They booted him out.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He still talks about it like one wasn't a puppet.

[Bobby Kelly]

Well, George was there.

[Jim Florentine]

He was always there. George.

[Bobby Kelly]

Who has George?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

David Copperfield. That's true. He didn't get the last one.

[Jim Florentine]

No, he's got the one before that.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Okay. Yeah, he bought it.

[Bobby Kelly]

David Copperfield.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Jim Florentine]

David Copperfield took his old George and said, I'll build you a brand new one. Just give me the old George I could put in my museum.

[Bobby Kelly]

Really?

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah. So it costs like 10,000 or whatever the new one you get. Because the old George is all up.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Jim Florentine]

Nada. Used to keep him in like the. In a locker in, you know, Penn Station or the Port Authority and then go score drugs and should he be in there for like three days in a duffel bag?

[Bobby Kelly]

Hell yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

So it'd be funny if a spy got the wrong locker and instead of getting the codes to the nukes, he got George.

[Bobby Kelly]

I'll tell you what, now that I'm out in Jersey too, I keep seeing when you drive by like firehouse and stuff, it'll be like whatever, comedy night. Like, you really want to peek in and be like, what's going on here?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Right. Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

What's the local scene like? Who are they loving on? Is it still Chips Cooney? Is Chip Cooney still there?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, Bob Nelson.

[Jim Florentine]

Those things were great to do in the beginning. Those firehouses, those were great.

[Bobby Kelly]

They never W's Elk Lodges.

[Jim Florentine]

Right. Cuz that no one comes out in that town except for that show. So it's all these local people you didn't even know lived in the town.

[Bobby Kelly]

Like dollar beers and.

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah, everyone.

[Bobby Kelly]

Oh yeah, no, those things were game savers for sure. Without a doubt. I've done all kinds of in the beginning. But to go see what the scene is now would be very interesting to see who's turning out for the there's always going to be a local magician, comedian. That's the funny one.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Gemini. Remember Gemini?

[Jim Florentine]

Nobody.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You don't remember Gemini? Oh, he did it. He did a. During the pandemic, he did a children's show. I thought I told you about this. It's. It's fascinating. He did a children's show, this comic from Jersey, and I worked with him in Boston at a Holiday Inn. When I first started comedy, I had an emcee for him, and I think he killed his rabbits because I think one of the.

[Bobby Kelly]

Oh, Jesus.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

One of the waitresses knocked over the lighter fluid into the cage and it kind of suffocated the rabbit or some.

[Bobby Kelly]

Oh, Jesus.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

But I remember he came on. I didn't understand. I was. You know, I'm working with stuff. Sweeney and Gavin and Tony V and, you know me, Patrice Byrd, Dane. And then all of a sudden, I'm working with this guy Gemini. And he came out, he had a half mask face on, and he did around 10 minutes of dance at the beginning of just magic hands and all kinds. And then a dove just shot out of it. I was like, what the. Where am I? And There was probably 15 people in a side room at a Holiday Inn. And I was just like, this is wild.

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah. Because what you would have to. If you were emceeing, you'd have to go light his candles.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Jim Florentine]

You know, introducing the magic of Gemini. And then you go run over, light the candles, and then walk off stage. And he'd make his grand entrance.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, man, he made an entrance.

[Bobby Kelly]

I will tell you. Starting off in the black comedy club, when a white magician comedian would get on stage, he would always not be doing well with his jokes. But then the audience gave him the respect of a demon, of an actual live demon. That they were there and just wanted to get through it with them and get it. We'll get him out of their lives. When you start pulling out, is this your card? And it was. No one was ever like. It was always like, hell, no. And they run it like no one enjoyed it. No one enjoyed that magic at all. You know, it's a funny. I went to it whenever I'm out in Sacramento, this motherfucker's Satan. Whenever I'm out in Sacramento, there's a couple. The guy. The husband's a photographer. He does pictures for me whenever I'm out there. Him and his wife are. He's a really good magician, and she's like the magician's assistant on the stuff they do. Like, big ticket, like magic Stuff. And it's really a. It's a strange fucking world. The world of magic. Yeah, like the. Yeah, the.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

We know Danny Braff was magician. He has a collection of thumbs.

[Bobby Kelly]

What?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He has a collection of famous thumbs from, like, Penn and Teller. And, you know the false thumb. Yeah, it's the. It's the false thumb that you do all the tricks with. He has like 50 of them signed by all the famous magicians.

[Bobby Kelly]

Well, this guy, when you go to his house, at one point, he goes, I gotta grab something from the garage real quick. And I was following outside, I was smoking. And he opens his garage and it's like a magician's garage. All it was missing was like people in torture things. It was like all these devices and then, I mean, cages full of doves.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

There was a. There was another one of him in a thing of water, just looking down at you.

[Bobby Kelly]

It was sentient. It waved at me and it was like.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Sentient. What a word.

[Bobby Kelly]

It was aware.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. I love magic. I don't give a shit. I love any type of magic.

[Bobby Kelly]

What's killing magic? I've had a long conversation about this television, having it on television, because even the people that are the best, you can just watch like frame by frame and see what they're doing. I saw one of my favorite magicians recently, Shin Lim. He's the Asian guy who won America's Got Talent. I saw his. The moo. I saw like, because they just have so much cameras going on them. I saw him, like, get the card, like retrieve a card to change something. You're like, yeah, don't do that. Yeah. I want to believe his sorcerer.

[Jim Florentine]

You ever see Copperfield show in Vegas?

[Bobby Kelly]

No.

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah, it's good.

[Bobby Kelly]

I've seen Chris Angels and it was horrible.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Was it.

[Bobby Kelly]

It was so bad.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Why was it like.

[Bobby Kelly]

Because it's all. It's. It's all showbiz, magic, everything. It's like, look at this crazy. It's more all about the prop is like a giant machine with this spinning saw that's going to come down and definitely never hurt him.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Jacob's leaving because you're talking about magic and he believes in Jesus Christ.

[Bobby Kelly]

Jacob, I'm telling you, Jesus is real. But Chris angel isn't.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, man. Where are you going, Jacob?

[Bobby Kelly]

You're gonna poop? No.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You got a poopies.

[Bobby Kelly]

Are you gonna masturbate?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You get tinkles. Where are you going? Outside.

[Bobby Kelly]

Are you gonna masturbate until you poop?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You want to buy more Tesla stock? What's going on with him?

[Bobby Kelly]

Follow him with a camera.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. Follow him, please, wherever he's going, and report back to us. Well, yeah, I love magic, dude. I love it. And Criss Angel. I heard. You know, he has a restaurant. He has a restaurant and mind freaks. And it's all. It's all. Yeah, it's all magic. You know, the whole menus. Magic.

[Bobby Kelly]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Harry Houdini, Poke.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't know. Yeah, dude, you gotta bring it up. I always hate that when you go to a comedy club and they have all the comics except for you. Drink.

[Bobby Kelly]

I know. I'm proud of Hulk Hogan. I do believe we've looked it up several times now, right? His restaurant isn't like, you know, the Giant, the Big Boot Burger or any kind of that bullshit, right? The Irish whipped into the rope, potatoes.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

The figure four French fries.

[Bobby Kelly]

Figure four french fries.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

They're all mixed up and tangled.

[Jim Florentine]

Supposedly the place is happening like they do Monday karaoke. He used to always be there on Monday. All wrestlers come down. It's in Clearwater.

[Bobby Kelly]

I think his son has to be there because his ankle monitor says he can't leave the area. That kid was just constantly arrested and you have to see an old, broken down Hulk Hogan, like, show up. I just watched a body cam the other day of him showing up, Hulk Hogan going to his son, who just did it again, like driving super fast and hitting something. And then he's got to go like, you all right, son? He goes, they're saying they got to take you down and process you, but, yeah, you're doing all right, brother. It's just like, your son's such a up.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Stop. Up.

[Bobby Kelly]

That kid is a up.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He's a fuck up. And the wife fell off.

[Jim Florentine]

Well, when she starts banging his friend, you know, she was like, the son, 51. Yeah, the son's friend. And he was like, 19. A kid. It is, but it might fuck up the kids at some point.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Up the kid? But have you seen her face? She got black things on her face, like. Looks like burn marks.

[Bobby Kelly]

Brooke Hogan's doing fine. Swimming in black dick. As soon as I. What do you think? She cried right in. What's first? The black dick she cried into after a Hulkster died?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

50 cent.

[Jim Florentine]

Now she's married to a hockey player.

[Bobby Kelly]

Is she really?

[Jim Florentine]

Brooke? Yeah. I think they got a couple kids. Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

How do you know that?

[Jim Florentine]

I know my.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You do. You do know.

[Jim Florentine]

You.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

We were talking about that before you came in. How you know your.

[Jim Florentine]

Oh, really?

[Bobby Kelly]

Steve, Stephen, Aleski, Alexi. Wow, I didn't see that coming at all well, you know. Hey, everybody out there who's mad about Hulk Hogan, just know that before he died, he got to see that his daughter married a white fella and not a black guy the way he was. Seemed very concerned about.

[Jim Florentine]

Right? So maybe he's like, I can die now. Yeah, yeah, she's got some white dick.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

The day after she got married.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. Ozzy did the same thing. We didn't even talk you into. You met Aussie, right?

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

How was it?

[Bobby Kelly]

Oh, you actually got to meet him on that.

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah, me and Jim got to meet him after.

[Bobby Kelly]

Is that your first time meeting him ever?

[Jim Florentine]

No, I met him probably 15 times, but just to see him one more time.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, it's crazy.

[Jim Florentine]

Like, when we saw him, I was. Me and Jim go, that's. We're saying goodbye to when we're not going to see him again.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

I mean, yeah, at this point, you.

[Jim Florentine]

See, he was in a wheelchair, you know, Parkinson's.

[Bobby Kelly]

So.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

So the concert, how, like, where were you sitting?

[Jim Florentine]

I was like, the fourth row in the front, really. Well, we had backstage passes, me and Jim, because we're doing interviews for Ozzy's Boneyard.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Okay.

[Jim Florentine]

So we're going back and forth, interviewing bands and going back out in the crowd so we could just come from the side and go.

[Bobby Kelly]

Right. I didn't even think that you were sent there.

[Jim Florentine]

We weren't set there. We tried to, but they didn't want to do. I said, I'm going anyway.

[Bobby Kelly]

They saw you get content and stuff.

[Jim Florentine]

But then they were there, and I was like, all right, let's do it. You know? So, no, me and Jim said, we're going no matter what.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Did you get your tickets from Ozzy, the family, or.

[Jim Florentine]

We got them through Family. Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

So, okay, so you're backstage. Everything was from.

[Jim Florentine]

That wasn't from them, though. That was from serious. Because Ozzy's Boneyard, they were there, okay? So they hooked us up. And then Jim knows. Sharon's assistant, Sharon Osborne's assistant. So we got backstage passes who were there the night before watching all rehearsals, really, which was great. Not Sabbath or Metallica, but we saw a bunch of the super groups and all that stuff.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Now. Now, Jay thinks it wasn't that good, but I think that Youngbloods version of Change was great.

[Bobby Kelly]

It was great.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It was great, wasn't it?

[Jim Florentine]

It was phenomenal.

[Bobby Kelly]

I'm not enjoying this kid Youngblood, I.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I thought he was great. I thought he stepped up and knocked it out of the.

[Jim Florentine]

Nobody knew who he was. The old metal heads there Even though he's huge over in England. Not so much here. He's a rapper, but he's friends with the Osbornes. I think he lives next door to him.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Jim Florentine]

And he went. I saw him in rehearsal doing it. I was like. I thought he was an actor. Look at him. Like, he looks like a.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He looks like. Like a. Like somebody who would play.

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

A rock guy.

[Jim Florentine]

Right. So. And he sang, and I didn't know who the. And they said, notice he's got young blood. He. Yeah, it was amazing.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Jim Florentine]

And he actually sang, you know, like, instead of the backing vocals or all that. The backing tracks, yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And no, Ben Bent was out there with him, too, right?

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah. Nuno and Frankie Bellow from Anthrax.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. And I mean. And the place went nuts.

[Jim Florentine]

Nuts.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Because there was a moment where they're like, who the is this guy?

[Bobby Kelly]

You know, I love about. I love about Frankie Bello from Anthrax. That guy's a fan of music. That guy is side stage at almost 100% of shows I go to. Yeah, he's just there. He was at Marilyn Manson and Wellmont. He's at. What did we just go to? He was Pantera. They came out and did walk with them. It's like, pretty.

[Jim Florentine]

Like, He's a great guy, too.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, Very nice guy.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

So when you met Ozzy, was it after or before?

[Jim Florentine]

After the show.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

So you met him after.

[Jim Florentine]

There was a VIP thing, and they said, ozzy's gonna come out. And we're like, me and Jim. Like, there's no way he's coming out after. He just did two sets. I go, yeah. I would go, well, might as well just hang out. We got nowhere to go anyway. And then all of a sudden, he got wheeled in with Sharon and the rest of the family.

[Bobby Kelly]

No.

[Jim Florentine]

So all everyone was starting to crowd around them. And then we got in there real quick. He's like, jim, Jim, you guys are nuts for going in there, going to see the album cover. I never knew that Barn was still there. You guys were crazy. And then. And everyone else jumped on him. And then it was over. Then all of a sudden, Sharon Sid from Slipknot, you know, asked. Yeah. To marry. So it just happened that quick. But we got to say, you know, quick. Saw him and everything.

[Bobby Kelly]

Did you do that? You guys went to the Sabbath album cover?

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

Place. Yeah, it's still there.

[Jim Florentine]

It was still there from 1970. And we snuck in, too.

[Bobby Kelly]

No. Yeah.

[Jim Florentine]

There was a gate open, and we ran in there, we took pictures and. And Ozzy put it on his Instagram, Ozzy and Sharon. So all the guys saw it, right? Like, all the rock guys saw it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And did you hop the fence and Jim kind of went through it?

[Jim Florentine]

No. There was a gate that opened the store.

[Bobby Kelly]

Did Jim burrow under?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. Did Jim use one of his family wormholes to get under the fence?

[Jim Florentine]

It was spiked, the fence. So I think he would have. He might have sat on top for.

[Bobby Kelly]

A little while, get a little taste of the good stuff now.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

How annoying. I love Jim, but when you go somewhere with famous people, the photos. Did you have to take a shit?

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah, dude.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Take a photo. Take a photo.

[Jim Florentine]

We're just lurking. Us to. Just lurking.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Are you like Jim? Because I'm. I'm. I'm a little more shy. When we used to go to ufc, I would have to sit there and take photo after photo, and he would. He would like, who's that? I'm like, that's Jon Jones. And like, I want to get a photo. I'd be like, hey, I'm terrible.

[Bobby Kelly]

Are you good at that? I have so little photographic evidence of anyone I've ever, like, met, famous or cool. I never think to ask for the picture.

[Jim Florentine]

No, I love it. I always ask for the picture.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, I do it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You like Jim?

[Jim Florentine]

Even when I met Ozzy back in the early 80s when he was first coming out with Blizzard of Oz, he would go do these record store signings. I got pictures with him.

[Bobby Kelly]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

So this is you in front of the Black Sabbath barn, is it?

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah. That's the original album cover from 1970. It still looks like 95 the same.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Wow.

[Jim Florentine]

I think they put the picture up.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Of the COVID Yeah, they did. It was at the beginning of.

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Wow, that's pretty cool.

[Bobby Kelly]

Norton wife didn't come? No, she was at home going through changes. Come on, Bobby.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Damn good.

[Bobby Kelly]

Thank you.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He met Randy Rhodes when he got the sign.

[Bobby Kelly]

She's going through changes.

[Jim Florentine]

What's that?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You met Randy Rhodes when you got. When you went.

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Signing.

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah, I met him a couple times.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You met Randy Rose. Wow.

[Jim Florentine]

That's Ozzy's house that he grew up in. His childhood home.

[Bobby Kelly]

That's cool. How do you get this information? Is this, like, pretty public information?

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah, we looked it up. Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Florentine looks exactly the same.

[Jim Florentine]

I took that picture. Randy Rose, Rudy Sars, or Tommy Aldridge. 1981. Awesome picture.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That is great.

[Jim Florentine]

That's after. That's like. That picture is after. I. I offer. I told Ozzy, here, take my watch. I had a shitty old Casio watch. That was rusted out. I bought it at a flea market. I go, obviously I'm a big fan. I want to give you my watch. He goes, no, man, that's okay. I go, no, seriously, I'm a big fan. He goes, no, I don't want your watch. I go, please, I came from New Jersey. Please take my watch. I don't want your watch. I don't want your watch. And then all of a sudden security goes, all right, come on, move it, move it. I kept snapping pictures and that's him looking at me like, who that? I don't want his watch.

[Bobby Kelly]

He's a good looking guy.

[Jim Florentine]

Ozzy. Oh yeah. So I got Randy Rhodes and Ozzy and then man the signatures that day.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That's.

[Bobby Kelly]

That's so cool.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Where's Ozzy though? I don't see Ozzy.

[Jim Florentine]

He wasn't in that picture. He's just in the one right there. That's Ozzy right there in the white. Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

Wow. And it's just a Blizzard of Oz tape signing.

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah. Well, yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

What a great album cover, right?

[Jim Florentine]

Phenomenal.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. That's the concert. I went, I went. I saw him in Boston two weeks after Randy Rhodes died. He did a concert. He had the castle and.

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah. That was a dire man.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Tour diary of the Madman. Yeah, it was crazy.

[Bobby Kelly]

I always thought this was a weird thing. I went to go see it was a Craig Gas bringing us backstage to something. It was the Merry Mayhem tour, I think they called it. And it was Rob Zombie.

[Jim Florentine]

I saw you at the Meadowlands.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah. And the band Soil.

[Jim Florentine]

Yep.

[Bobby Kelly]

The Izod center or whatever it was called. And this band Soil. Soil we were talking to backstage said that their bus did not. They hope Ozzy doesn't find out that their bus is the refurbished Randy Rhodes like bus. And like why like why would that still be in like the rotation of buses at all? Why would that still. That must be been told that to them and just believing it. That couldn't have been possibly been true.

[Jim Florentine]

Well maybe it was the last bus that he was in.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't.

[Bobby Kelly]

Well, they said though. They said it was the butt. It's a refurbished bus that got hit by the plane maybe like from the thing.

[Jim Florentine]

But I mean but that's. That was what, 80 the odds of that.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, that's what I mean. It's like refurbished.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Didn't. I mean there's what's his name didn't bottom same way John Bonham die from a plane crash too like.

[Jim Florentine]

No. How did he drinking.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh really?

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah. Dragon himself to Death.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, okay.

[Bobby Kelly]

You're thinking of Lynyrd Skynyrd.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

[Bobby Kelly]

All of them except Artemis Bile, who then got shot by a person.

[Jim Florentine]

No, that's not true.

[Bobby Kelly]

Really?

[Jim Florentine]

I always thought that story was too.

[Bobby Kelly]

Oh, it's.

[Jim Florentine]

No, because he, you know, he went up to the house, the guy came out with a gun and thought he was coming to rob it. And he's like, no, no. We just got in a plane crash. He almost got shot after he got in a plane crash and walk with like, a broken shoulder, huge gas. And he walked like two miles to.

[Bobby Kelly]

Tell it on Howard. By getting shot, though.

[Jim Florentine]

It's always the rumor. But I looked it up, and they said it's not true.

[Bobby Kelly]

I thought. I thought if he was more John Denver.

[Jim Florentine]

No, the guy came out, he thought he was ready to shoot him, but.

[Bobby Kelly]

I thought when he. I know. I believe he didn't get shot, but I'm. Because it's such a crazy story. But I think we told it on Stern. He told it as he did get shot. So then he also owed Artie Lang a bunch of money, so that was a big thing. He's got the guy from Leonard Skin. Artemis Pile owes already Lang five grand. I didn't know that he let him borrow five grand. It was on. It was on the shows. The only reason I know it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

So Randy Rhodes was in a plane and it smashed into the bus. Yeah, yeah.

[Jim Florentine]

Rudy Sarzo says that it was because the. The bus driver was high on coke and his ex wife came to visit him, and they were going through a divorce, and she was just hanging out right by the outside of the bus, and he was just going up, you know, buzzing the bus, like going real close. And he thinks she. He did it on purpose.

[Bobby Kelly]

Really?

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah. The. The bus driver, he had a lot. He had a pilot's license, but he drove all night. He was high on coke, and his ex wife was standing right there. He thinks he crashed it on purpose.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Where'd he get a plane?

[Jim Florentine]

They parked on a Runway like a little private airport.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Dude, coke, man.

[Bobby Kelly]

If you got coke, you can get whatever you want.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Dude, you get a spaceship, dude.

[Jim Florentine]

It was a private airport outside Orlando. They got there in the morning and he had a pilot's license.

[Bobby Kelly]

The bus was broken, too. They were waiting there, piloted by the tour bus driver. Clinton flipped the band's tour bus during a low flying pass crash into a nearby house.

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah, flipped over and went into a house.

[Bobby Kelly]

And a makeup artist who gets no love. She doesn't get. They don't ring bells for her at makeup artist conventions or nothing? They don't have a makeup artist. Or what if it's like. What if the makeup artist is, like, someone we know? It's like Mary Kay or Estee Lauder. Just like, names of things we didn't know.

[Jim Florentine]

But there's a famous story that Richie Blackmore from Rainbow, when he was in Rainbow, he had this tour bus driver he had for years, and the guy went on vacation, and this guy filled in like a week before. And Richie got on the bus and he saw the guy. He goes, you're the fucking devil. He goes, no, I'm not getting on this bus with this guy. I want a different guy. He brought the guy back from vacation, and it was the same bus driver a week later.

[Bobby Kelly]

No shit.

[Jim Florentine]

Killed the Randy Rhodes.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, he had a feeling.

[Jim Florentine]

He had a feeling.

[Bobby Kelly]

Final Destination.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Jesus Christ.

[Bobby Kelly]

He saw it coming.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That's weird.

[Jim Florentine]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

So weird.

[Bobby Kelly]

It is Australia. When I was on the bus with Mayhem Fest, we had a. There was a guy, like the guy who was driving the bus. Older black dude, chubby guy, very friendly. I think his name was Richard. And a guy who was doing pyro for one of the bands, five figures. Something was on our bus, and they just didn't get along, you know, I mean, he was. He would complain. He's like a complainer guy. I'm talking about the crew guy was the shitty guy, at least in personality. It was always like, where is this guy do? Where's he going? We got to be there this time, you know, wheels up at whatever. He was just a shitty about everything with this guy. And the guy was had enough. And then on the tour, at one point, I guess while we were all asleep, which I don't think you're supposed to, he met up with his son, like, at one of the truck stops. And then his son, he was following his son to drive somewhere. We were gonna get to the venue on time. Still, I don't to do with that, but at one point, we were stopped for a while, and the bus was running. And everyone starts waking up going like, where are we? The sun was like flipped over. Jaws of life pull him out of the car accident. The sun right in front of the tour bus. So the guy was out there, the. The driver was out there watching, and the pyro guy goes off the bus at one point. He's like, hey, man, I'm sorry you're going through here. But, like, you gotta, like, we have to get there instead to show up. So it's like, we gotta call in like whoever to pick us up or someone else has to drive us or something. We can't, you know, we have a job to do and whatever. And like, I hear him, but come on, man. You know, I mean, it was a weird time to approach that. And then at the very end of the tour, the guy's son was. Ended up being okay ultimately. But at the end of the tour, the very last day, he went up and just put the bus drivers, went up and punched the guy square in the. Like, knocked him down the ground hard with a punch. And that guy tried to get him fired in the. John Reese. Do you know that is. Yeah, the guy who used to manage Guns N Roses and then he owned Mayhem Fest. Big dude like a white suge knight just told the guy to shut the fuck up. The pyro guys like, eat it. Just eat it, dude. Yeah, you were a cunt.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Bus drivers are crazy. I mean, they're.

[Bobby Kelly]

They're their jobs nuts, dude.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

When we're on tourgasm, our bus driver, I used to sit with him like. Like no one else really talked to him because he was so fucking crazy. But I remember I would just wake up because I smoked and he would let me smoke up in the front and I would sit with him at like 2:30 in the morning and just hang out all night with that dude. I remember one night, he's like, I had my computer. He's like, man, you got the Internet on them like, yeah. He goes, look up. He goes, look up. Nice puss. Bad foot. And I was like, what? And I looked it up and it was. It was so bad. It was a chick who had her leg blown off and it was just like meat was hanging off like curtains. But you could see her pussy underneath the likes the medical gown, right? It was just a really nice pussy. No, it was just this terrible, terrible foot wound.

[Bobby Kelly]

Jim Florentine's gonna be at side splitters in Wesley Chapel, Florida, August 15th and 16th and in Tampa on the 17th for tickets. And all of us tortured, it's go to Jim florentine.com and Jim Special, you can't please them all. Streaming on Amazon prime right now. We'll be right back with Jim Florentine. It's the bonfire.