
Jay's favorite witch-rock band is back with a new tune about wizards and nonsense. Hekate's Torch casts a spell on the ears of the Bonfire as they deliver a masterful opus. | Jay and Bobby perform arena shows in Florida with Shane Gillis. Bobby gets confused while on stage because the clock doesn't count down and he can't do math. They also gamble and play football on the beach where Bob finds a father figure. | Theo Von reportedly has a meltdown while filming his comedy special in NYC. *To hear the full show to go www.siriusxm.com/bonfire to learn more! FOLLOW THE CREW ON SOCIAL MEDIA: @thebonfiresxm @louisjohnson @christinemevans @bigjayoakerson @robertkellylive @louwitzkee @jjbwolf
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And now the bonfire with Big J.
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Okerson and Robert Kelly. That's so funny.
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Come on, guys. Def lip. Sorry this song doesn't make you happy. It describes what women are.
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Oh, I just got my kneecaps taken out before the show.
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Oh, what happened to you?
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Nothing. Nothing. This should have been a phone call on Sunday, yet it was. Hey, have fun. But before you have fun, why don't you go yourself? No.
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What happened?
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Nothing. I didn't even know that song was about women.
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Come on.
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I swear.
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Turn it up, Lou. Women, women, lots of pretty women Men, men, they can't live without them Women, women, lots of pretty women Men, men, we can't live without them Skin on.
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Skin, let the love begin Women, we.
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Can live Win, win, win, win, win, win, win. I knew it was coming. I love women. It was a. Who hurt you today for decade? Jacob. What he do?
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No, he didn't do anything.
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He did something.
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He's. He's just, you know, corporate Jacob stepped in the room.
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What did he do?
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Oh, Corporate Jake in his tie.
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Oh, that's interesting.
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Yeah.
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Because. Yeah. With Black Lou's cowboy shirt there, I thought maybe he'd be wearing a tie.
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Oh, shit.
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Oh. Oh. You stayed up so late last night to watch that tie. I'm so sorry. Yeah, yeah, it looks like it sucked. Remember Micah Parsons personally stopped you from winning the game at the end? Remember the guy that left your team personally made the tackle that stopped you from winning the game at the end? Damn. I watched the whole game. It is unfulfilling, Right? Yeah. It's the worst feeling in the world. Do you remember why do they see this? Christine years ago, McNabb, when he was on the Eagles, the game ended in a tie. That's when I found out you could have a tie. Because he didn't know. Like, I think he ran the clock out of the over. The first of what he thought was the first overtime. He ran the clock out because he was gonna take it because they were, like, in a bad position, I guess or something. He was gonna take it to the next quarter and they were like, that's the game. It's a tie. He's like, huh? He could just end it. Like, he didn't know. He's like, he just ended a tie.
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Yeah.
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That's weird.
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When did this. When did this happen? When did they put this in? 2008? No, no, this has always been.
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I think it's been there. It just happens rarely enough, I guess. I guess it happens more now because they both get a chance at a possession. I think that's what's about to happen. Yeah. I always hated that other rule where it was a bad rule. Terrible sudden death. Whoever gets the coin tossed. It was like. Was like lopsided, like, 70, 75 of the games they win if you win the coin toss.
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Yeah.
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Damn.
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That's.
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Yeah, that's. It was the Bengals 13, 13 in overtime. And he was like, I didn't even know you could do that. I didn't know that go down. What he says. He said, I didn't know that. I've never been part of a tie. I never even knew it was in the rule book. Some finding it inconceivable. That's hilarious.
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It does suck.
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Not them patriots yesterday, though. 40 some points, huh?
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Yeah. But where. All right.
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Who'd you play against? The Jags.
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The. Was it. Yeah, it was a Panthers. Who was it?
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Panthers.
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It was a Panthers.
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I think it was Panthers.
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It was Panthers.
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It wasn't the Jaguars.
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I Was in and out of it yesterday, though. Dude, I was wiped out.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. I got home.
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I'm.
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I think flying. Doing that early. First thing out.
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Yeah.
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Is getting to me.
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Oh. For anyone that's confused by what we're saying here. Me and Bobby were both. We opened for Shane this weekend in Hollywood, Florida.
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Hollywood, Florida. Fort Lauderdale.
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Hollywood.
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The Hollywood? Yeah.
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Two shows.
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Two shows Thursday, Friday, and Great venue, man.
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That's a big deal.
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It's a great venue.
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Hard Rock Live.
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High Rock Live is a beautiful theater. Yeah, it's great. It really is nice.
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Cool place.
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It's. Yeah, it's awesome. Awesome. Casino Mall. They have a mall inside.
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Your nephews came and I brought him into a room, and I was like. I was like, shane, Bobby, come over. Jacob's nephews are here. They want to take a picture. And Bobby was just like. He was like, that's.
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That's not true. That's 100%.
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He told me the opposite.
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I didn't even see them.
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Yeah, they were brought into a separate room.
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Yeah, that's. That just shook my heart because I.
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Did it, you know? You didn't do it.
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I know. I. I know I convinced you.
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You did it.
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I don't know.
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That's awesome.
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No, I didn't. I. I was looking forward to seeing your nephews. That would have been great. They loved you, you guys.
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That.
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Yeah, well, what's not to love?
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They're all such wonderful Florida Jews. Everyone was like, I listen to you all the time when I'm in law school. Things like that are being said from across.
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I realized that I texted you, like, no, they're.
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They're not going to be a problem.
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They're good kids.
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One's a doctor, one's a pilot.
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Yeah, they're not kids.
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One's a lawyer, and one's gonna be a lawyer.
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They're actually doing better than everybody in this room.
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Your nephews were actually the only ones doing coke at all, so that was weird.
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Was that the one doing coke?
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The only. Those two.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was pretty wild.
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They were gone, but they said it's for studying, so I believe them. I want to believe them.
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It's weird that he's bisexual, too.
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It was weird that he told me he does bisexual stuff.
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Yeah, that was the guy he was with, the older guy.
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Yeah. He said he blamed you for asking him for shirtless pictures so much. I don't think it's your fault. But you guys do with that at Thanksgiving?
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I didn't take a picture with him. There but later that night, back in my hotel room, I do have some pictures if you want to see them.
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Yeah, he sent some pictures.
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Yeah, I gave him a full body back rub. I didn't know it was your nephew. I figured that's you wanted.
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You probably figured he goes, damn, you're tense. And he knows that you're tense, but you won't let him touch you the way a boy would.
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Yeah.
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So, yeah, your nephews definitely got molested by Bobby.
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Yeah, I wouldn't say molested.
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They did say we didn't see Bobby.
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Yeah, I was. Yeah.
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He was behind him the whole time, rubbing him down. Yeah. They had no idea what was happening, but that was Bobby behind them.
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It was such a. It was. It wasn't as crazy as the weekend before last. The weekend before was nuts. I was with Shane in Tulsa and Houston.
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Told you, I bring the vibe down.
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No, you don't bring the vibe down. You couldn't. What happened in Houston was just nuts, which I can't talk about.
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What?
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Come on. No, I don't. You can't talk about.
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Everybody got lazy. Not good story.
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It's. I can't talk about it ever. I can't ever know nothing. It was.
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It was probably borderline, like, illegal. It was crazy. I'm surprised it wasn't the newspapers. But he can't talk about.
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It was magical. Let's put it this way. It brought. It brought old Bobby back. Really? You've never met. You've never met old Bobby. We have. Oh, no. Not seeing how your moves. Oh.
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In Vegas.
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Oh.
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And I think the thing was they were all hanging out with. Oh. I thought it was gonna give us a. Women, women, women and men.
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Men. It was great.
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I'll have sex with both of them. Women, men, men. How many can I fit of them?
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But Shane really takes. I mean, he really does. I mentioned we should play Texas hold' Em and he was like, we should get a table. And he just like, power is so crazy to me that you can just be like. Just go get a table. And he got like a special VIP table in the back just for us and our own dealer and our own, like, people to sit around us while we played the lowest minimum Texas hold' Em you get. You know what I mean?
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It was crazy. It was like two dollars buy in.
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Two dollar buy in. Yeah.
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You had to break a five dollar chip.
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It was so. But it was so good because none of us knew how to play really. Especially me. His assistant, me, didn't know how to play, which is the funnest because nobody can really clock you because you're winning on. You're just going all in on nothing.
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Oh, first night, see, I did. I got my shit handed to me. The second night we played, first night, I cleaned everybody out and left and dipped out because. Yeah, because I was. And that's what it was. Nobody can read me because I still know what I'm doing. I'm like, all I'm doing is thinking while I'm looking at it. I go, I guess I'll still play. You know, maybe like. And then ladies go, like, you could raise or check. And I'm like, check is nothing, right? And raised it. And I look at my cards again, I go, I guess raise it. And I'd be like, 15 to go. You have to raise double, so it's got to be 20. I'm like, okay, then that.
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Yeah, but you knew.
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And then people just start folding around you like, ah, the fucking Jay's got something. I'd be like, is a 3 and a 6 anything? No, you didn't wear shades, Bobby, so that they couldn't see your tell.
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No, I didn't have. I didn't have my transitions on. But it was so. It was so weird because it got to the point where Shane. Shane was tipping the dealers so much money and they were changing every 20 minutes.
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What the fuck was that?
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So I'm like, this is costing him so much money.
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Lou got nervous. What the fuck was that?
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What?
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It's weird. They change. I'm saying that they change dealers every 20 minutes. That was wacky.
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Well, they changed deals every 20 minutes and he had to tip every. He was tipping every one of them. So this game was starting to cost him so much more money than he could possibly win from any of us.
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I think he did okay on the shows, though.
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I think he did all right. No, I think he did make. I forget that he's making.
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You know, I'm crazy. I think they paid him for those.
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But here's the thing to give out. He kept. At one point, the second night when you left, it was just us four. And he just was like, all right, this. Let's go, let's play. And he's like, all in. Like, firsthand. As soon as he's like, all in. And you're like, I wanted to. Not like, I wanted to fold, but I felt bad trying to win his $262 he had in front of him. Because every time, the longer the game goes, the more money it would cost him. He would have to tip These dealers money. So he's just prolonging. I'm like, fold. Fold. Me and Tommy all fold. He said, come on, you fucking pussies, let's play. And I'm like, yeah, but this 280 means something to me. And I know it means nothing to you, but I'd feel bad because you're paying me so well. I just take my money.
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$10,000 stack. He tipped every 20 minutes.
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No, he didn't.
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10,000.
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He did not. He was 200.
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That's the kind of money he's got.
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He was $200 and he carries it.
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In a duffel bag and they're all wrapped with those little stickers that say 10,000.
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That was the week before.
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Talking Sirius XM money. Yeah, I'm talking SiriusXM scratch. I'm talking old Jason Ellis money.
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I almost wanted to become a dealer just. Just to get tipped out by Shane. He was.
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He's so generous.
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He is f crazy, but he is.
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That's his nature, which is great. And he should be. I mean, it's like he's making a bazillion dollars.
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Making a bazillion dollars. But I've been with people who make a bazillion dollars and don't tip bad people. Let's put it this way. I played Texas hold' Em years ago with somebody and they certain physical comedian and they physical, very physical. And he beat all of us and took all our money.
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Is he a guy? Did he write. I think I know you're talking about. Did he write a. A ballad that will melt your heart unless you're frozen?
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Yeah, he did. He did write a ballot. Okay. And then at the end of it when he. We were playing for more money, we all had to put 500 in and he won and took all our money and then went, yes, and then left. And we're all like, oh, he's going to give this back. Right? Because we need this like for food during the day, you know, and like that. And he just took it. And then he took all that money and went to a high end slot machine and won 5,500 and then took that. And then that was it. And I believe.
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I think I know you're talking about this guy. Did this guy ultimately fuck a child until they were old enough to marry?
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I don't, I don't. That's. That's allegedly.
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But we're talking the same person, though.
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They might have met on game night. I don't know.
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Okay.
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I don't know. But it was definitely Games involved. I don't know if it was a.
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I think we're talking about the same person, Buddy. Did his brother take all of his money?
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It might. Maybe that's why he was taking our money. Because it was in him. Maybe that's what I was saying.
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But this is my. This is my therapy.
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I remember that the opener though had no money. He was actually taking snacks from the green room and putting it in a napkin like a hobo and wrapping it up to eat later at night. Because he didn't have money for the room service. Cuz we had to use our own credit cards on the room service. He took all of our money. Hey man, that's winner. Winner. He was a winner. That's a good song. What is this? Who made this?
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Things go in the past.
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The past dictates the future.
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My favorite story ever. But we're all living in. Play it again.
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So playing with Shane I felt a lot better, let's put it that way. And I believe.
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Stealing my friend's money, he tipped the.
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Dealer a 25 chip coin.
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Only tip a hot white chip. Here's $25. Bobby, go get yourself and Gary something to eat. Every thing I'm doing, you have to somehow get in and break a rule.
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It was a different time. I think money, money was more then, right? Yeah, it was. It was funny. Tommy Pope was my favorite though. That. That guinea is the best. We were walking down the. Me and him woke up early on Friday morning and we walked the beach. But he comes out and like he's just a good looking human being. Just gorgeous. And he came out in shorts and a. And a. He had a shirt on. But then he saw I had no sleeves. He goes, I'll be right back. And he came back with no sleeves. We were walking down the beach. I've never seen gay men. It was like. It was crazy, dude.
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Well, he's got the mustache. They were just got that mouth muff.
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He's got that mustache. He's got a five o' clock gray, five o' clock shadow. He's got Elvis hair and he's got this gold chain and these tights. And he's walking down and I'm. I just feel like a fat. Next to him, I'm just a fat friend. And these guys are just stopping in their tracks, I mean literally breaking on their rollerblades just to get a gander at this fucking gorgeous whop. Man, he's good looking. I had one. One gay guy look at me, but he was just me looking back at me. It was just two queens. Like, hey, I'll never. I'll never get him, but I'll definitely get you. We were on the beach throwing the football. This is why I knew I never had a father. We're throwing the ball back and forth, and he. And all of a sudden, he goes, hey, loosen your grip. That's all he said. And I was like, okay. And I loosen my grip. Spirals. Just spirals. Spirals. I never was taught how to throw a football.
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I'm gonna teach you how to bowl.
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Soon. This. This cocksucker went, hey, loosen your grip, kid. And I just loosened it.
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Just.
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He goes, there you go. I was like, thank you, Tommy. Thank you, dad.
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You showed me everything.
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Oh, God. I was playing. They had the water ball, and him and Shane were just throwing the ball at me. And I was. Dude, it brought me back to when I was just a kid with no dad. Because every time I caught a good one or threw a good Sharon, like, good one, Bobby. That was a good. That was a good toss. I was like, thanks. Thanks, guys. Thanks for being my dad. Even though they were talking, I could hear them talking. I could hear the water was just. That's fucking kid. He's not as bad as I thought.
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He was gonna be. Oh, by the way, first night, I got heckled. Really?
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Yeah. That. Me up.
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I was on stage and why the. I was like. I welcomed it. Like, when she said it, most people didn't hear.
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Yeah.
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Like, just the people around her heard. I waited for it to stop. And I was like, what'd you say? I always have to engage it. I was like, what'd you say? And then she wouldn't answer. I was like, I didn't hear what you said. I just didn't hear you said. She was like, bring Shane on. I was like, you think I'm holding him up? You think this is impromptu where he was gonna come on? And I was like, wait, wait, wait. I'm gonna do some time.
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It fucked me up because I have to go on after you. And if. If you didn't. If, like, you know, now I know that there's people just waiting for Shane, and they got fucking five minutes.
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So. So then I said that. I was like, you know, I'm gonna hold. And the crowd started booing her.
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Yeah.
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And I was like, don't boo. Or I go, she's just drunk. And whatever. I go. I go, you know, I said something. I was like, is she just drunk? Oh, yeah. It was like the same thing. I was like, if you boo or Too. We can't tell. We're not, we're like bullying over her saying something else stupid. And then the crowd stopped booing and then she started booing me and I was like, are you booing me? And she goes, yes. I go, I just tried to save you cunt face. Then they kicked her out apparently.
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Well, Shane was pissed. Shane said that the last week. He's like, sometimes they, he got a little nervous because sometimes they start yelling out, bring out Shane.
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Yeah.
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And he got, as soon as she did that, he got pissed and like left. And then she was just dragged. He did some, something cuz she got dragged out of there.
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No, he didn't call that. That was just security just did that I think.
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No, no, it was, I was, I was right there. They. He called, he talked to what's her name and handled it.
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Oh really?
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Yeah, yeah, I was right there because.
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You seem surprised when they came in, she was like, they kicked that girl out. He was like, oh really good.
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Yeah, I think Rose Grace was, she was like the, the guy came up to her and then there was like.
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A little talk and Shane's assistant.
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Yeah, it was then I went out there. The, they had the, they have a count up clock which is awesome because you know exactly where you're going to be. And they didn't do it this time. They just had a clock. So then my brain was. I look down at nine, I go, okay, I got, I got you know, six more minutes. And then I looked down, it was nine five. I was like, what's nine five?
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You've only been five seconds.
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I've been talking for a long time.
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Just five seconds.
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I don't know what nine five me.
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How do minutes feel like seconds when you're up there?
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And then I thought the cl. The guy just stopped the clock on me. And then I didn't know where it was. Then I looked, I'm like, oh, that's the time. And then I don't know how to do math quick so I don't play black. So I was like, I got up here at what time? So I'm in my head trying to add up how many.
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Story short. Bobby stopped talking for a full four minutes on stage, standing looking freaked out at a clock. The audience was puzzled. There was crickets, but they were waiting for something to happen. And then Bobby just went, he looked up and when it said 9:06 he yelled marshmallows. Threw the mic into the audience place, went nuts and then ran off stage.
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Bobby.
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I just realized though the catch you had with Tommy Pope was actually the first positive football interaction you had with a comic. The last time you had played football with a comic, he made you pay for your knee surgery.
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Oh, the other guy. Yeah, I've done. There's a lot of parallels to my last tour and this tour. Yeah, yeah. Last time I. I broke my knee, dude. And then this, this, this, this time I actually learned how to throw a spiral.
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Listen, what's he going to do? Pay for all your. Dude, the guy's got to self produce an album of ballads.
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Yeah, that's true. I mean, I did pay for both knee surgeries.
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Do you think that falling just hits the shelves magically? You think the guy writes falling and then it's just out there? Doesn't work like that.
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Yeah, it was very to go. I've been on these tours before. I've done these arenas and this one was so this week was great too because you were there because we were just, you know, it Was just fun and silly and a good time, you know? And you were going out. I mean, this is the funny part. I was talking to Galvin from the Mike Calta show, who went to the show in Orlando, and he said, everybody came out and it was in the round and everybody's working the round. He goes, big J came out, sat down, and faced one way the clock the whole time. He didn't fucking turn at all. I go. I go, we should. We got to get. We got to get Jay a lazy Susan. Like, just the stool that turns every plus break turn the.
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One of the cities. One of the cities. One of the cities. In between laughs, I heard a guy go. I was like, you know, it was like a good laugh. And then the laugh died, you know, it was like slow. And then I hear someone go, turn around. No. Look over your shoulder. No, Jay.
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What makes you pick the side, though? That's an interesting.
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Where the clock is.
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So. So wherever the clock is, you're gonna sit down.
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Yeah.
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Oh, that's fucking hilarious. That was funny.
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And I try to do, like, dia. So, you know, it's in a corner. So I sit down and face the corner, like, next to it, like, right across from it.
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Right.
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So I use, like, the seeing space of, like, basically there and there, like, three quarters of it.
B
Right?
A
Because I'm looking over here to see the clock.
B
Yeah.
A
And kind of playing around, like this way. Let me tell you something. In an arena of people, it is pretty funny. I don't think you know this. Me and you talk to the exact same two people.
B
Oh, really?
A
The couple, I didn't know. They must feel like celebrities. The fact that they were like, yo, there's 30,000 people here. And two of them talked directly only to us.
B
There you go. It's such a ballsy move because I go out and I'm just like. I want to keep moving to get, you know, this. This dude goes out, sits faces one way literal back towards 10,000 people.
A
They'll sort it out. There's screens. There's screens for this very reason.
B
10,000 people have his back, and he just fucking murders this whole 15 minutes.
A
If I was doing an hour, I would turn. I would quarter turn every 15 minutes. Started to. I started to turn. I go. I told the crowd, I go, every five minutes, I'm gonna turn. And then I did five minutes, and I finished up over there, and then I turned. And then this couple that I was talking to, though, over the. Before I turned, there was just still more, like, just a. More juice in There to squeeze out. So I was like, I'm gonna go back over here. I just turned back and put my stool back in front of them. I go, yeah. I don't. I don't know. I like these people.
B
Yeah.
A
Let's make a music video for falling. Like an emotional. Like a real Chris Isaac black and white. Me and you fall in love, maybe.
B
No, we should just do it. To all the things he's done to me.
A
I don't know. I see me and you going through a tumultuous like, you slam the door, and I throw a plate at the door.
B
No, no, no. I got it. Everything that happened to me on through my years with him, you are there to pick me up. You come in when I. When I break my knee.
A
Yeah.
B
You're the one that I look up and you're just. Hand is there and you bring me up.
A
I know. And then you know when you have to commit suicide by paintball gun to get yourself out of the game.
B
So Dane wins.
A
Kill yourself, Bobby. Take yourself out of the game. Oh, Dane, come on, dude. I want to play the game too. Shoot yourself in the chest with your paintball gun. All right, bud.
B
Yeah.
A
You're out. Bob's out. Try to ruin his fun.
B
Breaking rules. The poker game. When I lose my money and I needed that 500.
A
Oh, that's so fun, huh?
B
It's called forward.
A
Oh, what do I say? Falling.
B
Yeah.
A
All right. Forward, Forward, Forward. Honest mistake. I wish we could go forward till.
B
Your legal age, Jacob. Does it bum me out that she.
A
Doesn'T really post anymore?
B
I.
A
It does bum me out.
B
And when the she does, it's all like, she belongs to him.
A
Religious stuff. You're the perfect age. If we were in Tijuana.
B
Yeah. Such a difference between that tour and then, like, on that tour, on edge a lot. Well, before you even what I wore, I would heard, I would be like, hey, man, you wearing that? Like, what?
A
We haven't even heard Shane's ballad yet, though.
B
But it's coming.
A
It's coming, it's coming. While we're talking about legends of music, I will let you know that I look today. And it's worth a peek. Hecate's torch is still at it. And there's something I kind of wanted to look up. What time is it? Oh, good. Hecate's torch. Remember them? Forced to embrace everything.
B
Yeah.
A
They keep making music. And they are. They have a show, a date on the books that they're playing.
B
Live show.
A
Live show. It's in Canada. That's where they're from. Where? It's where they live. That's where the. I don't know if you remember this. That's where the wizard frog sorcerer was at. And then the witch mermaid fat came to Canada because the dream of Canada sorcery. And they have a cat.
B
I forgot. I did forget. Thanks for Hecate.
A
Christine, if you could please bring up the about us, please. I'm sorry, I got a quick reminder. I'm explaining it bad.
B
It's a great website though, with the flames.
A
Hecate's torch is a compelling force in the underground music scene. Okay, okay, hang on a second. What the happened?
B
They changed it because they go to publicists.
A
What the is that about?
B
They're trying to make it. Dude.
A
Now what happened when the mermaid left Poland because she had to find a sorcerer?
B
Is that the our story?
A
Yes. Yes. Oh, thank God. Once upon a time, in the middle of the torrid Amazonian jungle, lived a red haired witch who started singing at the age of five. Having lived as a mermaid in a past life, her most precious gift was her voice. As you could hear, she loved her land and her people. But many times she had visions of herself living in a snowy land, surrounded by mountains and in the companion of her true love.
B
But she's a mermaid, right?
A
So you think she'd have to past life.
B
Yeah. Gotcha.
A
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
B
Yeah, yeah.
A
On a beautiful full moon night, her mother, Hecate, the queen of witches, told her that time had come to embrace. Forced to embrace her destiny and moved to Canada where her new life awaited. Meanwhile, in the land of the freezing tundra, lived a wizard poet and musician who had lived as a dragon in a past life. And he, as our Amazonian girl, also dreamed of fighting his true eternal love. Unfortunately, he was fighting three Deweys in court. No, he didn't say that. Arriving in Canada or which mermaid creates a public event to celebrate her goddess. And guess who shows up? The wizard dragon. And that Hecate's torch forced to embrace.
B
Isn't that a robot?
A
Oh, look at Don on guitar. Just Don. Okay, look at this. Okay, so is Tyler Finley playing drums for them? The cat's in the band, by the way.
B
Is that Tyler Finley playing drums?
A
Yeah. Yeah.
B
No.
A
Yeah.
B
Wow.
A
They got him.
B
They got Tyler.
A
I know. I would sue them if they were. If I saw him on my grandfather's plot. God, do I hate at a cemetery.
B
Do I hate top hats? I fucking hate them. It's the dumbest hat.
A
Yeah.
B
So bummed out that Lincoln wore a.
A
Top hat, but you know, it's funny. It's interesting. I don't know. You don't like top hats? No, but he wears one. And you do want to watch what he does, which means that you have been forced to embrace. Thank you.
B
I just don't understand a top. What is a top? What is. Every hat has a purpose, right?
A
Yeah.
B
What is the top?
A
Is that just things keep a rabbit in.
B
It's to keep stuff.
A
You've been consistent with that. I believe you even said slash. You don't like Slash?
B
I hate his because I know his head smells. He never takes it off. Just a stupid, sweaty leather top hat that he keeps on. I don't like it.
A
Can you go? Yeah. Let's hit the new videos because they've got new one that's pretty fantastic. It might be the queen of witches. The lyre. The new lyrics are.
B
They didn't update the their YouTube with the new song, buddy.
A
You know, busy witches are.
B
Well mermaid witches.
A
Past life. Mermaid witch.
B
So let me ask a question. She was a mermaid before and then became a witch, Right?
A
I guess the mermaid died.
B
Is the evolution of a mermaid. Okay, I got you.
A
Okay. Right there with the knife is a great one.
B
This is me. If I met the wrong guy, this is you.
A
I assume this is you. Every weekend I'm gone in the backyard dress Dawkins up in a dress Dawkins up in a cape.
B
Rebecca. Dresses of the dude.
A
The Halloween Bash music festival at Mount Doug. If anybody in Victoria, British Columbia is listening to this, do you know what that is?
B
Right?
A
In Canada.
B
That's an island.
A
Huh?
B
You have to fly to it. That's an island.
A
All right. If anybody's listening to this who knows anybody who lives on the island, it's.
B
Hard to get to.
A
Just so you know, you're going to be in what can only be described as the bash of the century. The Halloween Bash Music festival. The festival that features how many? Not one, not two, but three bands. That's one hell of a festival. One day, I assume. One day festival, I guess.
B
I hope it's a two day.
A
The festival begins at 4pm and ends at 8pm.
B
Else is happening besides the band. It ends.
A
It's four hours. That's plenty.
B
That's not a festival. That's not even a concert.
A
It's four hours.
B
It's four.
A
It's half a ufc.
B
That's a skank fest pre party. Can we. Can we contact them? Is there a number we can call them?
A
Just look to the sky. Speak to a fire.
B
Hang on. Christine, do you have any. Do you have any feathers? And dream catchers to contact them.
A
Do you have a way we can. Is there something we can cast to bring them here?
B
Yeah. Can you. Can you kill a squirrel and put it in your Louis Vuitton box? I don't do any shit. I don't sacrifice things.
A
No, she does it the wrong way. She goes out and kisses a goat. I have to kiss a goat. I have to blow a fucking newt.
B
She cuts her own hand and puts it in goat milk and then drinks it.
A
Yeah, I thought I needed a goat head. Oh, I thought you said give a goat head the head of a goat. You meant.
B
Oh, I had to get a little witch hat for a dog. Take your. Take your drip cup and do a seance with it.
A
Christine's got our backyard. Our backyard's got grass, privacy, and plenty of fire. Christine's definitely done weird shit out there. There's a hole in our grass. No reason you dig a hole. Never seen a dog digging that hole once.
B
That's where she puts her drip cup. She drips it instead of the toilet.
A
She's very possible.
B
She goes in the. She waddles out in the backyard with it in. Then no tips.
A
I'm telling you, whatever she summons is coming in and out of that hole.
B
No. Dawkins found a fucking dead baby bird in a hole and now she's looking for more. Wow.
A
Nope. It's the only hole.
B
Christine.
A
Christine may have killed the bird.
B
She killed the bird.
A
That's possible.
B
And did some type of thing.
A
I didn't even bat around the idea that Christine more than likely killed that bird. It just hit me now and I don't like it.
B
I didn't kill the fucking bird, Christine.
A
You murdered a bird.
B
Thank God Rebecca was there to be a man and clean it up for me. Rebecca just came out. It wasn't even dead. She just grabbed it with her fist and smushed it.
A
Yeah. Finish it off.
B
Yeah. It's not gonna fly.
A
It's not right to leave it. Damn it.
B
Did you. Did you hear what happened to Theo? Poor Theo Vaughn. Man had a breakdown on stage filming a special dude.
A
I thought it was like a moment more than a breakdown, they said. I read the stuff. It was like three. Like, a third of the crowd left.
B
He says. I don't know. He said. He's. He was on stage and he didn't know where he was, and he was having a hard time, and he kept.
A
Asking for help off stage. And then there's a video of him saying to the Crowd. I'm trying not to take my own life.
B
Yeah.
A
Which seems extreme.
B
I feel bad. Theo, I don't know him, but he's. He seems like a sweet guy.
A
You know, when you've met him, he's been very nice.
B
Yeah. Like a sweet dude. It just sucks because he's killing it right now. He's just every. You know, I mean, his podcast is going nuts.
A
We had the thing where he went off on the guy at the bar and stuff. Maybe going through it. Might be on drugs or. So I don't know his history.
B
I think he's sober, dude. I think he's. He's clean.
A
Right. But I'm saying maybe he's not right now. I don't know that to be true. I'm just. I'm making guesses on why the behavior's erratic.
B
Right. You know, maybe. Maybe that's just a sucky thing.
A
You're special at your special. Yeah. Stressing over it.
B
Yeah. It's just, you know, everybody. Those are your fans. They're coming to see you.
A
Yeah.
B
Film this thing. And. And it just sucks that it's out there.
A
You know, Maybe he crossed Hecate's torch and they laid down some kind of a.
B
Maybe Christine's dead bird had something to do with it. Maybe Christine put a spell on him.
A
Yeah. Yeah. He had a rough one. They said it's a beacon. Right.
B
The Beacon Theater. Sold out. And then people all over the place saying that he was.
A
He's.
B
They're saying that he kept asking, where am I? What do I say? What do I say next? Which, I mean, in a special, if you up, I have no problem with you saying, I fucked that up. I'm doing it again. Yeah. I know. Me and you would never do that. I've never done it, but I've seen people do it. I've seen.
A
I'd walk away.
B
What do you mean?
A
I'd just walk from the joke. I'd be like, I'm not. We'll get it next. Next set.
B
What if you didn't have another set?
A
I've already whiffed it twice.
B
You whiffed it twice?
A
Jokes out of the set.
B
You're done.
A
Yeah.
B
That's pretty ballsy. Well, your director would probably stay, do it again. No, you wouldn't do it again because you'd know.
A
I'd rather correct it in ADR somehow.
B
Good word.
A
You know, I mean, have the. Like, have a pickup or something on it versus going out there and saying it again. Having them fake a reaction.
B
You'd rather Go out. Would you go back. Would you go back out and do it without the crowd and then have them put the crowd in it?
A
No, no, Bobby. I'm also trying not to kill myself.
B
So I don't have a problem with it. I've seen people do it. I've seen Keith do it. Keith up a joke on his half hour. And they stopped and they came out and they said, yo, you gotta do that again. And he was like, all right, whatever. I was like, fine with that because it is a special.
A
Oh. I think on my half hour, they may have made me go out and say a few lines.
B
Just lines, right?
A
But not like a joke again. I've heard. I've heard, like, Birbiglia, historically, like, stops the set and just goes. I'm gonna take that again from the top, everybody.
B
Yeah. Nikki Glazer did it during that Degenerates thing. She stopped, like, 13 times.
A
Really?
B
Yeah, she. We all went out there and did, like, 15 minutes, 20 minutes straight.
A
Yeah.
B
And then she was her up.
A
So she puts you, like, in a position where it's like. As the audience do, you see them come out of it, and it's like. So then I says. So I says to her, God damn it, it's a guy. It's not a girl. I gotta. Can I take that from the top? Do you mind if we go? Mm, okay. Yeah. So I says, you know, put it. The smile back on is such a weird thing. That's act. That's straight acting at that point.
B
But that's the only people that know that are the people that are there. And then you watch her degenerates. She murders. Like, it's flawless. Because I watched it. I was like, I want to see what. You know what I mean? If there's any hijinks. And there was nothing. It was like, wow. And then there was a couple things that I up little things, you know, that will bug me. Nobody knows. But I was like, you know, maybe I should have stopped and went, hey, guys.
A
I don't know. To me, it's the ideas. You're capturing that hour as told in that moment.
B
I think so, too.
A
So, like, that's how I would.
B
Yeah, there he is right there. What did he say?
A
He's trying to end his own life. I hope it's not really.
B
I hope he's all right.
A
Serious.
B
I think I have to squat and do a peace sign to take a picture.
A
I think it's also. That also might be, like, him saying, like, to be funny or something. I don't know what's going on.
B
Yeah. I hope he's all right.
A
By the way, by a lot of account, people are like, oh, it was terrible. And I left. There's a bunch of people that are saying, like, I don't know. There's still plenty of funny stuff he did.
B
Well, here's the thing, though. Richard Pryor, Sunset Strip, first night, bombed. He bombed.
A
Yeah.
B
Nobody knows that he ate his dick. The first show didn't get laughs. Mitch. Mitch Heberg bombed his half hour special.
A
While he was literally passing out on heroin.
B
He bombed. No laughs. And they, you know, but people bomb all the time. You know what I mean? On special, my first special, the lady fucking died. I mean, she passed out and the whole thing stopped. I had an eye headache. I felt like someone was sticking a knife in my eye. Literally, I felt it like I'm off stage watching them drag this lady out, and my eye just started hurting. And then it felt like somebody was sticking a knife in my eye. And then I look over at Lou and he goes, we're good. And I walk back on stage and I remember it was 5, 000 degrees in there and I had that leather coat on that. Because I was trying to recreate Elvis's comeback special, Stupid Fat. I remember. I remember I felt so sweat go over my eyeball at one point. Like, the drip just went over my lid through my eye. And I was like, this is. This is so bad.
A
I've never bombed a special, thank God, but I have bombed almost 100% of the filmed showcase things I've done in Where Hecate, His Torch Is Home. Canada.
B
Yeah.
A
I have eaten shit on 100% of televised things I've done in Canada. HBO the nasty, my first nasty show that they recorded and put that out. That went well. But any of the gala. I've eaten shit exclusively on galas, the TV show they make you do. Kevin Hart's TV show. By the way, I gave Bobby. Bobby got turned on. I could have had Bobby this weekend. I could have fucked him when we were backstage Saturday night.
B
Hang on real quick. Why are you laughing?
A
I don't know why she's laughing.
B
Why you find this funny? I said, I'm sorry. It's okay. I'm just saying. Go ahead. I remember what it is. Okay, Go ahead.
A
It's. I came. Bobby was watching Shane from sidestage, and I went and grabbed myself two beers. I was gonna sit and watch them, so I grabbed a beer to drink and a. And a full one to bring over there. And when I walked In. I sit next to Bobby. He goes. He goes, that's cool. He goes, you got one for Shane? I was like, if I was gonna be somebody's chick, I would have done it for Kevin Hart 25 years ago. You think I'm gonna start now? Hey, champ, I got. I want to be the one to give him a beer after a show.
B
Yeah. My dick got immediately hard.
A
I was like, if I was going to be someone's chick, I would have done it for Kevin Hart 20 years ago. But I didn't start now.
B
I didn't say. I didn't say. The way he said it. I go, would you get Shane a beer?
A
Yeah.
B
I said, like. I didn't say. I didn't say, like, it was a good thing.
A
Oh, yeah, let's re.
B
Let's rework that story. That's fair.
A
It's true.
B
I went, what do you get? Would you get Shane a beer? Because Shane's getting off, and he was going to hand him his. I was like, what are you a. He goes, if he leaves. Because I was being the dick originally, like, you loser. And he leaned in. He goes, if I was gonna be somebody's bitch, I would have done it 20 years ago. Little Kev. I literally went, oh, my God. That's the hottest thing you've ever said to me.
A
So sexy, what you just said.
B
So sexy.
A
Very, very fun weekend.
B
Yes. Very fun weekend.
A
We got so much more to talk about. So much. Both our teams won.
B
Yeah.
A
Is this the Torch?
B
Yeah.
A
This is early Torch forced to embrace Big J. It's.
B
Big J's gonna be at the Helium Comedy Club, Portland in Portland, October 2nd, this weekend. Fourth this weekend, a funny bone in Columbus, the 10th and the 11th. Then he's gonna be in Washington, D.C. austin, Tampa, New Orleans for Skank Fest. For tickets and all the tour dates, visit BigJ comedy.com and visit his YouTube channel, YouTube.com/at Big J Okerson for his live shows that he does now, which are amazing, and his specials are both up there. And one of the. I mean, let me tell you, this weekend, bro, I really. I was talking to Carter. I was like, between you and Shane, it's like, I'm watching people do comedy at the highest level.
A
Oh.
B
Like having to follow you. Like, you go out there and you just sit down. You murdered every second of the show. And I was like, this is. Thank you. It's crazy. Good to see.
A
Killed it, dude.
B
It was.
A
The whole show was powerhouse.
B
Yeah, it was. Great show.
A
Bobby Kelly's going to be at the comedy at the Carlson in Rochester, October 10th and 11th. After that, Tampa, Florida, Emmaus, Pennsylvania, New Orleans for Skank Fest.
B
That's my birthday weekend, by the way, so feel free to bring presents.
A
To which one?
B
The Rochester.
A
Rochester.
B
That's my birthday weekend. Feel free. Presents. And by presents, I mean your presence show up.
A
Yeah, bring your presence. Show your tits.
B
There's nothing worse than girls not selling out in Rochester, New York.
A
Tour dates go to Punch up that live Rochester Robert Kelly and his YouTube page, YouTube.comoberTKellyComedy you can catch him every Tuesday night, 7pm at the Fat Black Pussycat Lounge at the Comedy Cellar. We will be right back. It's the bonfire.
B
Hey everyone, it's me, Andy Cohen. Buckle up because I have a podcast called Daddy Diaries where I take my listeners on an as it happened recount of life as a daddy to two kids, dozens of housewives and the occasional fella. Listen to the Daddy Diaries to hear about my high highs and low lows of parenting housewives drama. More Daddy Diaries available wherever you listen to podcasts.
In “Forced To Embrace,” Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly return to SiriusXM’s “The Bonfire” to dive into the realities of touring as comics, hilarious behind-the-scenes stories with their comedian friends, run-ins with eccentric music acts, and the wild, sometimes absurd moments that come from years in stand-up. This episode mixes candid confessional, signature banter, and riotous storytelling—especially from their recent adventures opening for Shane Gillis in Hollywood, Florida—with poignant reflections on comedy’s toll and triumphs.
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“Forced to Embrace” is a packed, hilarious, and human episode of The Bonfire: part confessional, part roast, and part love letter to the stand-up grind. Jay and Bobby’s ability to bounce between ribald humor, pathos, and whip-fast callbacks makes for an episode that’s as heartfelt as it is side-splitting. For regular listeners or newcomers, it’s a quintessential slice of modern comedy podcasting.