The Bonfire w/ Big Jay Oakerson & Robert Kelly
Episode: Fun Black Church
Date: September 24, 2025
Podcast Host: SiriusXM (Faction Talk 103)
Episode Overview
In this lively episode, Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly dive into the exuberant world of Black church culture—its music, energy, and unique role in unifying communities—sparked by a spirited discussion of a Kirk Franklin performance. Alongside their signature humor, tangents abound, from irreverent riffs on religious experiences and gospel drummers to hilarious speculation about celebrity scandals, the economics of show business, and “Dancing With the Stars.” With regulars like Christine and Jacob chiming in, and rapid-fire banter, this episode is both a celebration of vibrant culture and a comedic free-for-all on pop culture, friendship, and the eccentricities of fame.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Black Church vs. White Church: The Joy and the Music
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Kirk Franklin's energy at awards shows kicks off a conversation about the joyous experience of Black churches, compared to the staid atmosphere of Catholic or white churches.
- Big Jay (02:13): “Christ music, dude. Kirk Franklin as we speak…there's a lot of Black people. Well dressed. It smells great.”
- Robert (04:37): “I want to join a Black church. Black drummers are so good. Black church is fun. Yeah, it is so much funner than Catholic church.”
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Observations about the musicality and inclusiveness:
- Church drummers, choirs, and singers are celebrated for their unmatched skill and excitement.
- Jay (04:44): “No one's wearing a red suit in white church.”
- Bobby (04:50): “Yeah, there's no chick singing with her bottom of her butt cheeks out, her nipples almost poking up out of her dress…for the Lord.”
2. Irreverent Takes on Religion
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Regular jokes about being watched by Jesus and dead relatives during private moments.
- Jay (01:33): “Do you think [God] sees what I masturbate to?...Can He see my phone?”
- Bobby (01:57): “I don't want my grandmother to see me either. Can dead people see you from above?”
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Humorous musings on how deeply religious people reconcile spiritual devotion with everyday desires.
- Jay (03:20): “Their whole life, all day, is ‘walk with Christ’…When do you change energy to sliding your hand up your wife’s dress?”
3. BET Awards, Lil Nas X, and Unity/Division
- Jay and Bobby compare unifying performances (Kirk Franklin) to more controversial moments (Lil Nas X).
- Jacob (07:13): “He ends it with a heavy tongue kiss…and I think his dick almost falls out.”
- The group discusses why some music can unify and some performances draw controversy.
- Bobby (07:06): “Jesus unifies the crowd… Gay Lil Nas separates the crowd.”
4. Celebrity Rumors, Absurdity, and Scandal
- The crew veers into unfiltered speculation about hip-hop mogul P. Diddy’s legal troubles, prison, and personal life, blending rumors, comedy, and deliberate absurdity.
- Jay (15:49): “Yeah, I hope he just gets out and beats the shit out of a girl in a hallway. Just celebrate it, dude.”
- Bobby (16:01): “Yo, son, I want you to come in your hand and throw it on my chest again, son.”
- Playful interrogation about Jay’s (alleged) conversations with celebrities, turning into a mock-interrogation over sexuality and private life (21:41).
5. The Dane Cook Family Heist: A Tangled Tale
- Detailed breakdown of comedian Dane Cook’s real-life betrayal by his half-brother and sister-in-law, who embezzled millions:
- Stashing cash in vacuum cleaners and spaghetti sauce, starting restaurants, and eventual prison time (23:00–34:00).
- Personal anecdotes: Bobby’s love of watches, hopes of acquiring Dane’s Rolex, and ultimately receiving a prank Diesel watch instead.
- Bobby (38:29): “No, it was a goddamn Diesel watch that he got from Diesel store…”
6. Showbiz Generosity and Gift Politics
- The awkward economics of famous comedians gifting extravagant presents (e-bikes, leg massagers, Rolexes), and how friendships can be shaped or soured:
- Jay (39:25): “Fully Loaded was a pretty good gift bag.”
- Bobby (40:16): “You piece of attack. They’re leg compression—put them on and they…”
7. Pop Culture, Dancing with the Stars, and the Corey Feldman Campaign
- An extended rally to get listeners voting for Corey Feldman on “Dancing With The Stars”—not for skill, but for “the funny.”
- Jay (48:08): “If he’s booted off, the funny dies, it dies with him.”
- Bobby (49:02): “I think all of it is wrestling with him…you’re gonna see the real Corey…he’s gonna rock it.”
- The group reads out Feldman’s elaborate bio, pokes fun at his career highlights, and reveals a nostalgia for 80s celebrity oddities (57:58–60:49).
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
On Black Church Music:
- [04:44] Jay: “No one's wearing a red suit in white church.”
- [05:00] Jay: “I'd rather watch this [BET Awards/black church] than any church I've been to in my life for sure."
- [06:17] Bobby: “Black people have so much more fun. They really do.”
On Kirk Franklin:
- [03:02] Jay: “You need Kirk Franklin out there shaking it up. Come on, Kirk Franklin, live.”
On Religious Life and Sex:
- [03:20] Jay: “When do you change energy to sliding your hand up your wife’s dress?”
Kirk Franklin, the BET Awards, and Unity:
- [07:06] Jacob: “This unified the crowd.”
- [07:13] Jay: “Jesus unifies the crowd. Gay Lil Nas separates the crowd.”
On Gift-Giving and Envy:
- [39:25] Bobby: “I've never got a good gift bag. Never.”
- [39:42] Jay: “You got those leg things. I love those. The compression leg compressions.”
On the Dane Cook Family Saga:
- [24:41] Christine: “He was actually taking cash and stashing it.”
- [25:32] Jay: “You ruined all my fun.”
- [38:47] Bobby: “I call him up…I go, dude, this isn’t the watch. He goes, what do you mean, the Rolex? I go, yeah. He goes, I’m not giving you a fucking Rolex.”
On Corey Feldman, “Dancing with the Stars”:
- [48:08] Jay: “If he's booted off, the funny dies, it dies with him.”
- [49:02] Bobby: “You’re gonna see the real Corey, and he’s gonna be a regular guy.”
Timestamps for Important Segments
| Segment Topic | Time | |--------------------------------------------------|------------| | Opening banter, Jesus jokes | 01:04–01:55| | Religious voyeurism and “phone protectors” | 01:28–01:55| | Kirk Franklin/Black church fun | 02:13–04:56| | Comparing Black and White church | 04:44–06:31| | BET Awards breakdown, musical unity | 06:08–07:13| | Lil Nas X controversy, tongue kiss | 07:46–11:01| | P. Diddy legal trouble and scandal speculation | 15:14–19:44| | Dane Cook’s family embezzlement story | 22:46–34:43| | Bobby’s watch anecdote/Diesel watch prank | 38:29–39:01| | Gift politics among comedians | 39:01–42:23| | “Dancing With the Stars” & Corey Feldman campaign| 47:01–62:01| | Feldman’s bio; oddball nostalgia | 57:47–61:15| | Episode wrap-up/comedy calendar plugs | 62:11–63:17|
Tone and Language
This episode is unfiltered, relentlessly comic, and deeply irreverent. Jay and Bobby riff boldly on taboo topics (sex, race, religion, fame), freely blending affection, mockery, and wild speculation. Their camaraderie is punctuated by quick wit, put-downs, and inside jokes, but also warmth for their comedy family. The episode is rich in pop culture references, industry gossip, and nostalgic nods, all delivered in the hosts’ trademark rambling, fast-talking style.
Final Note & Call to Action
The hosts end with a playful but earnest plea for listeners to vote early and often for Corey Feldman on “Dancing With The Stars,” promising ongoing comedy if he remains in the competition. Plugs for upcoming tour dates, appearances, and the necessity of “not being a dick” round out the typically chaotic but compelling close to the show.
“Don't be a dick. One more thing... [Vote for Corey Feldman.] We need Corey Feldman to stay on the show.” – Big Jay (61:41)
For anyone who missed the episode:
Expect a raucous exploration of comedy, culture, and friendship that swings wildly from Black church choirs to Hollywood oddballs, with detours through crime, showbiz, and relentless joking—held together by Jay and Bobby’s unique voice and bond.