Goosed Up To Win

Summary

The Bonfire with Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly

Episode: Goosed Up To Win
Date: August 4, 2026
Platform: SiriusXM Faction Talk Channel 103

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Episode Overview

In this lively episode of The Bonfire, hosts Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly reunite after a whirlwind week. Their unfiltered comedic banter provides an inside look at their lives on and off stage, finds humor in life’s irritations, and recounts an epic, career-defining experience for Jay—opening for Shane Gillis at a sold-out Lincoln Financial Field. The conversation stretches from tales of outdated payment methods and awkward encounters with fans, to a deep dive into sports loyalty, flooding woes, and the surreal realities of sudden fame.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Payments & Old-School Habits (00:48–02:31)

• Jay and Bobby open the show ribbing a friend (T-Shirt Kevin) for sending handwritten checks as merch payment—something they find charmingly dated and inconvenient.
  • Jay: "I haven't gotten a check since college." (01:27)
  • The crew jokes about how they’d even cash a check these days ("Want to give it to a bum...If you could figure this out." – Jay Oakerson, 01:39).
  • The air is comedic: boisterous, full of affectionate mockery.

2. Portland Shows & A "Confusing Boner" (02:35–05:36)

• Robert praises Bonfire fans from his sold-out Portland shows.
• He shares a story about meeting a trans comic and the awkward, eye-opening moment his son Max experienced.
  • Robert: “He just left...Max, what's going on?...He goes, ‘Dad, I wasn't ready for that...she had these really nice boobs...but when she talked, it messed my brain up. I didn’t understand what was going on.’” (03:54–04:43)
  • Jay: “Confusing bone. I was right. My guess was actually right.” (04:44)
• The hosts riff about generational differences in gender/sexuality and share a moment of crude (but warm) father-son comedy.

3. Domestic Mayhem—Dogs and Floods (06:03–12:11)

• Jay recounts his week: their dog injures her paw (graphic, humorous detail about the trauma and trip to the vet).
  • Robert: "She looks like an idiot." (07:57)
  • Jay describes the surprising calm that followed (08:28–08:54).
• The Philly area is hit with tornadoes and flooding, causing mayhem at Jay’s house and his friend Lewis'.
  • Jay: “The garage flooded...carpet was floating...wasn’t the end of the world...but it sucked.” (10:10–10:30)
  • They delve into homeowner nightmares, French drains, and doing battle with the elements.

4. Comedy, Careers & the Sports Fan Dream (12:12–21:10)

• Banter about fame, staying grounded, and not handling success well:
  • Jay: “I think I’m on the verge of madness. Like, on the edge.” (13:24)
• Jay excitedly reveals that Eagles senior advisor “Big Dom” offered to hook him up with tickets any time (19:21):
  • Jay: “I’ve been doing comedy 28 years, and I think it was all for that moment.” (19:44)
  • Robert interrogates, teases, and advises Jay on how to actually capitalize on these connections.

5. Basketball Star Roster Moves & Sports Loyalty (14:16–17:48)

• Discussion turns to the Philadelphia 76ers’ superteam and the pressure to win with LeBron and a star-studded lineup.
  • Jay: “They just...fired that old general manager who liked old guys...this young guy’s really done a good job.” (14:23–14:38)
  • Robert: “I have no respect for LeBron...I like guys who spent their career with one team.” (14:42–15:04)
• Reflection on the legacy athlete ideal versus today’s constant trades/roster stacking.

6. Stadium Stories: Opening for Shane Gillis at Lincoln Financial (28:37–46:48)

• Jay recounts a career “pinch me” moment: opening for Shane Gillis at Lincoln Financial Field, home of the Eagles, to a capacity crowd of over 70,000.
  • Arrived early, went through surreal preparations, wandered the locker rooms, and took in the pre-show chaos.
  • Met Eagles players Cooper DeJean and Jordan Mailata, who introduced him on stage.
  • Chopped it up with Bam Margera and basked in a singularly warm moment with Dave Chappelle backstage:
    • Jay: “Chappelle...came over...gave me such nice compliments. Man, that was inspiring.” (46:36–46:37)
  • Discusses the pressure, the spectacle, and how performing for a giant, supportive audience can feel “unfailable”—unless you truly go rogue, in which case, “they would just start booing you.” (38:19–38:32)

7. The Aftermath & Staying Down-to-Earth (44:55–46:56)

• Jay details the post-show: congratulatory run-ins, affirmation from club security (“all loving laughs over here, man.” (44:47)), and his natural tendency to avoid the afterparty life (“I just go home…the next day, I left for Winnipeg.” (45:18))
• Chappelle’s heartfelt praise is the emotional high point for Jay, closing the loop on years in comedy:
  • Robert: “Inspiring…You inspired.” (46:59–47:02)
  • Jay—still grounded, slightly self-deprecating: “Story sucks.” (47:02)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

About Comedy & Fame

• "I think I'm on the verge. I think I'm on the verge of madness. Like, on the edge."
  — Jay Oakerson, (13:24)

• "You want money? ... You know what comes with money? What, fame? No, look at me..."
  — Robert Kelly to Jay, (22:48–22:51)

On Performing in a Stadium

• “I’ve been doing comedy for 28 years, and I think it was all for that. It was just for that. Right there on the road to Victor.”
  — Jay Oakerson, (19:44)

• “Chappelle...came over...He was like, man, that was inspiring. He gave me like such nice compliments.”
  — Jay Oakerson, (46:36)

• “You murder, you go up and do that and then I guarantee, you're in your hotel room by fucking, I don't know, 11:42.”
  — Robert Kelly, (45:18)

On Sports and Loyalty

• “I have no respect for LeBron...I like guys who spent their career with one team.”
  — Robert Kelly, (14:42–15:04)

• "They're going to be the talk of the NBA this year...But the big argument...‘There’s only one basketball.’ That's the big thing they say.”
  — Jay Oakerson, (15:41–16:08)

Making Fun of Nicknames and the Philly Vibe

• "Can I tell you something? Usually when people have nicknames, they never match up to their nicknames...He's Big Dom."
  — Robert Kelly, (20:01–20:06)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:48–02:31 — Opening riff on outdated payments/merch, the “check” bit.
• 02:35–05:36 — Portland show story, trans comic encounter, Max’s honest confusion.
• 06:03–12:11 — Dog injury/vet trip, Philadelphia flooding/homeowner challenges.
• 12:12–14:16 — Career trajectory, Jay’s “verge of success” musings.
• 14:16–17:48 — 76ers, LeBron, and sports loyalty talk.
• 19:21–21:10 — Jay’s dream come true: Eagles ticket hookup from “Big Dom”.
• 28:37–41:00 — Jay’s backstage/stadium run-up opening for Shane Gillis.
• 41:00–44:55 — Walk to stage, audience chants, emotional highs, stadium security.
• 44:55–46:56 — Aftermath, Chappelle’s praise, bringing it down to earth.

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Tone & Style

The episode is raucous, genuine, and laced with characteristic Bonfire irreverence—playfully crass, deeply honest, and rich in backstage comedy lore. Jay and Bobby’s rapport is at its best: teasing, heartfelt, endlessly riffing. Even the biggest moments are handled with humility and a refusal to take themselves too seriously.

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For Listeners New & Old

Whether you're a diehard Bonfire fan or new to the show, this episode offers a perfect entry point: the joys and stresses of stand-up life, hilarious trial-by-fire fan interactions, a taste of sports-obsessed Philly, and the truth that even after career highlights, these comics are most at home cracking jokes and keeping each other grounded.

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Transcript

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[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

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[Guest or Co-host]

And now the bonfire with Big J

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Okerson and Robert Kelly. How annoying. We both got checks. Just Venmo me for a love of God. Yeah. I love T shirt Kevin. I love him so much.

[Jay Oakerson]

It's like my nana.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

I love him. But he. He. He texted us checks like, it's you love your nana. I love my nana. She's gone, but I still do love her. And I love. I love T shirt Kevin. Thank you so much. Got comic wearables.com. get your DJ Lou T shirts. They're available now exclusively only there blog. But I haven't gotten a check since. I think it was in college.

[Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like a handwritten check.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Yeah. I haven't seen somebody write cursive for real.

[Jay Oakerson]

This will never make it to a bank.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

I know. I don't know what to do. I'm not going to see Don. I don't know.

[Stephen Dubner]

I don't know.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

I don't do banks.

[Jay Oakerson]

Want to give it to, like, a bomb and be like, if you could figure this out.

[Supporting Guest or Co-host]

Guys, do you know you can deposit them from your phone now?

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Hey, do you know that I got married so I don't have to fill out forms and spell and deposit things? Changes, changes, changes. He wriggled his checkup that.

[Commercial Voice or Guest]

He just.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

He just balled his checkup and threw right in the camera. Kev Venmo.

[Commercial Voice or Guest]

All right.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

The fact that you're a merch guy and you don't. You sent a check. What kind of business are you running?

[Jay Oakerson]

God bless him. It's a breakdown, too.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Did you add it up with an abacus?

[Jay Oakerson]

4 Big J shirts in the fiscal year. Weird.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Yeah, man.

[Guest or Co-host]

Weird.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Here's 98 bucks.

[Jay Oakerson]

You had a crazy time off.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

I had an amazing week with some. I really had a lot of fun, everything. First of all, I wanted to thank the Bonfire fans who came out to Portland. Two sold out shows. Two of the funnest shows I've done. I mean, in a long time.

[Jay Oakerson]

Oh, hell yeah.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Awesome. So it was great. We had a. This funny.

[Guest or Co-host]

Dude.

[Jay Oakerson]

There's a fishing town.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

There was a. She's a comedian. She's trans. Oh, not. But no, she's cool. She actually said, I am coming to the show with my boyfriend. Oh, cool.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

And so I'm outside after the first show, and she comes up, hey, what's going on? But Max is there.

[Jay Oakerson]

Oh.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

So Max was standing there, and then I was like, hey, what's going on? Sweet girl. I don't know how to say. I'm not trying to be mean at all. Sweet girl. Very, very pretty with her boyfriend. Great. But when she came up, she was like, hey. No. She went, hi, Robert. How are you doing?

[Jay Oakerson]

You know, her voice hasn't figured out yet.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

So I'm just. I don't care. I know. I understand.

[Commercial Announcer]

They do.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

But then Max was there, and he goes, dad, I gotta go. And he just left.

[Jay Oakerson]

Masturbate.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

He just left. And I was kind of like, oh,

[Jay Oakerson]

I hope he's not ready to talk to you about that boner.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

So I went. I ran around the back. I said goodbye, going to the show. And then I went around the back. And he was just in the. In the back of the little lounge, the theater there. There's a bench at the stage door. And he's just sitting there kind of with his hands on his head, like he's thinking. And I go, max, what's going on? What's wrong? He goes, dad, I wasn't ready for that. And I go, listen, bro, trans people, you know, trans people. He goes, no, no, dude, I don't care about that. I get it. She's trans. I just didn't know that she was. And she walked up and her. She had these really nice boobs. And I was like, whoa. I was kind of like, wow. And then when she talked, it fucked my. He goes. It messed my brain up. I didn't understand what was going on.

[Jay Oakerson]

Confusing bone. I was right. My guess was actually right.

[Stephen Dubner]

Yeah.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

You know what I'm saying? Right? He got up because he was like, oh, look at those tits. And then. Hey, how you doing, Bobby? What's going on? He was like, well, I don't know.

[Jay Oakerson]

Hey, partner.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

A boob job. Boob job's a boob job. Wow. Yeah. I said, a penis is a penis, too. So I was like. I was like, it's all right. I go, it's a process, dude. It's a Process you work on. I think the voice is last.

[Supporting Guest or Co-host]

Yeah.

[Jay Oakerson]

Let him know.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

I think voice come before tits, if you ask me. I think it should. It should go. It should go. Choice boobs.

[Jay Oakerson]

I think odds are at this point, Max is growing up in a time where he's probably gonna have sex with a trans.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Nah, dude, he's. He's all man.

[Jay Oakerson]

Doesn't mean anything anymore.

[Supporting Guest or Co-host]

Yeah.

[Jay Oakerson]

Wanted to suck on those titties. He wanted to suck on that guy's titties.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Yeah. Be great if I. I sucked on a dick and he was sucking on a teeth. Have a real dad and son experience.

[Jay Oakerson]

That would be good.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Just high F each other.

[Jay Oakerson]

That would be good.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Just looks, down goes. Dad, you gay.

[Guest or Co-host]

Whatever.

[Stephen Dubner]

Keep.

[Jay Oakerson]

Keep sending. Dawn off on ebikes. You'll get there. Your mom, every. Every six months, she loses more of her face in gravel. In gravel rash, dude.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

So I, like, my weekend was great. My week off was great. But your week, like, was.

[Jay Oakerson]

I mean, it was all over the place, too, though. We had. Our dog got hurt that sucked.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Your dog got hurt?

[Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

From what?

[Jay Oakerson]

Never had that before. Oh, so scary. She had her nail caught in pavers, I think, and ripped one of her nails off, almost off and, like, bleeding everywhere. Oh, God, she was hurt.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

It sucked the pavers in the backyard, dude.

[Stephen Dubner]

What?

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

It got jammed in there. Oh, don't play that. Don't. That's actual sound. I know, but I don't like. That's probably one of my least favorite sounds, that sound and. Hey, Bobby, how you doing? Is that your son?

[Jay Oakerson]

Is that your son? He's ripe for the picking.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Max, don't be scared of my voice. I'm working on it. Listen, I drink mimosas and Malibu on the beach.

[Jay Oakerson]

These very fake boobs can be wrapped around your very real prick.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Yeah, my balls could be on your father's chin at the same time.

[Jay Oakerson]

You ever have a hot chick's balls rest in your eye sockets?

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Do you know what a hot pocket is? That's when you suck on my tits and your dad blows my ass.

[Jay Oakerson]

There might be some turds back there, but grow the fuck up. It's nothing a shower can't handle.

[Guest or Co-host]

So that.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

That's.

[Jay Oakerson]

You might be plowing through some mud back there, but listen. That's the name of the game. That's the name of the game. You want to roll with the big boys.

[Guest or Co-host]

Yeah.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

You got to eat that cream out of the devil dog if you want to have fun with me.

[Jay Oakerson]

This is where the big boys come to play.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Oh, is that the paw. Are you sure it wasn't attacked by a demon?

[Jay Oakerson]

Yes.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Oh, my God.

[Jay Oakerson]

We actually had to place the. We had to play sweat for demons, like, two weeks ago.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

You did. Okay, that's not.

[Jay Oakerson]

Show the saddest picture.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

God, that's coming through for some reason. That's so Is that the sad picture right there?

[Jay Oakerson]

Well, that's. She hates this thing.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Of course she does. She looks like an idiot.

[Stephen Dubner]

She.

[Guest or Co-host]

It looks like.

[Jay Oakerson]

She looks like she ran real fast and shoved her ass up a Smurf or head up a Smurf's ass. That's the inside. Look at that.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Look at that little baby. Oh, my God.

[Jay Oakerson]

It was such a bummer.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

They have dog chairs and the vet. Yeah. Is that a little doggy chair?

[Jay Oakerson]

No, this is a couch.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Oh, I thought it was a little doggy couch. That would be great to get a doggy couch for the dog.

[Jay Oakerson]

She was so. She had no idea what was going on. What a scary day for her. She broke her nail. Fell in the pool after she broke her nail.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Did that hurt?

[Jay Oakerson]

We thought she jumped in the pool and we're kind of like, oh, shit, she did it. She finally jumped in. Instead of like taking the stairs, she fucking handed. And then she came up to the step. But she swam. She wasn't making crying noise. She was already over the nail breaking off. I guess it hurt. And then didn't anymore. And then she came out. There was just blood, like blood everywhere. And then when we cut, you know, tried to, like, grab her leg to kind of look at it, like, it did hurt her for a second. And then she hid in the trees and wouldn't come out. She was, like, afraid of us, which is the worst feel. Shaking. It was pretty scary.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Should be afraid of you. You guys did it to her. Yeah, I know.

[Jay Oakerson]

And then they bandaged up her little tootsie.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Oh, is she back to normal now or.

[Jay Oakerson]

No, she has to wear that stupid thing on her head.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

She has to look like that?

[Supporting Guest or Co-host]

Yeah, Only for about a week for how much blood there was and how nerve wracking it was. I mean, I was like hysterically crying. It was awful.

[Jay Oakerson]

It's apparently not that big of a deal.

[Supporting Guest or Co-host]

They were able to pull it out. They sedated her.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

They pulled the nail out.

[Supporting Guest or Co-host]

Well, they sedated her and then they.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

So she has no nail?

[Jay Oakerson]

No.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

It's going to grow back, right?

[Supporting Guest or Co-host]

They said it may or may not.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

She's going to be one of those. Freaks. I can't wait to trash your dog. If she nail doesn't go back that

[Jay Oakerson]

big tornado day, Keith's gonna come over

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

and go, your TV's too small and your dog's missing the nail. I hate it. I hate it.

[Jay Oakerson]

The day of the tornadoes, garage flooded.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Did it flood?

[Jay Oakerson]

Backyard, actually, just in general was like. The water wasn't draining, like, fast, so it was like. The backyard's like that. What do you call it? The carpet outback. Like, the indoor, outdoor carpet was like. The edges of it were, like, floating on one.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Was that coming in your house?

[Jay Oakerson]

Not that almost. I mean, it's right there.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

The little. The little table.

[Jay Oakerson]

No, but it didn't. Thank God. But it was close. But it did. It did pour into the garage.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Did it? Did it? How deep was it in the garage?

[Jay Oakerson]

10ft, maybe.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

10ft. That's not bad.

[Jay Oakerson]

No, it wasn't the end of the world, I said. Sucks. Still, it doesn't matter.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

It goes flashbacks.

[Jay Oakerson]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you did, right? For sure. I hate flooding.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

I.

[Guest or Co-host]

It's.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

It's my biggest fear of owning a house is flooding. Yeah. My old house, the backyard, when we first got it. The backyard where the little rock garden I made. The reason why I made that rock garden, because it used to flood.

[Guest or Co-host]

Oh.

[Jay Oakerson]

Because you'd like to be serene and find your center.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

It was that too, but I. It used to flood, and it would go into the crawl space. We didn't know that.

[Jay Oakerson]

Oh, really?

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

So the first, like, few months there, whatever, it flooded. I mean, deep. Went into the crawl space. I opened up the crawl space, bro, and it was like a little lake. So I had a higher guy to come in and do a brand new drainage thing and then do another one in the backyard. And I had to get a French drain. All this stuff.

[Jay Oakerson]

Everyone's got to get a French drain.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Yeah.

[Jay Oakerson]

Lewis flooded again. French drain.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Did he flood again?

[Jay Oakerson]

I have to ask somebody about a French drain, apparently.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Did he flood again?

[Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Oh, God. He's probably pissed.

[Jay Oakerson]

He's getting it all handled, though, now. Now it's gonna be, like, fixed. The problem will be fixed. But the thing is, it's. He had the thing, I guess, you know, it's booked to be fixed. Like, the work is booked. And it's booked for, like, whatever this week or something or. But I'm saying this happened last week, you know, he's already booked. But, like, in the time waiting for them, it was another crazy torrential rain.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

You can't control mother Nature, Jay.

[Jay Oakerson]

True that.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

She wants no shit. When she wants it, that bitch is like, just regular. They do it. That's True spiel.

[Jay Oakerson]

True spiel.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

It's true spiel.

[Jay Oakerson]

What day of the week is October 10th? Can somebody look that up?

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

It's on a. I know. Automatically it's a Thursday.

[Supporting Guest or Co-host]

It's Saturday.

[Jay Oakerson]

So what?

[Supporting Guest or Co-host]

Saturday.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Yeah, but I was talking in the Spanish sun calendar. It's a Tuesday.

[Supporting Guest or Co-host]

Yes, well, you said Thursday.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

I said Thursday. But on. If you go to the Spanish sun calendar, that's. It's on Thursday. But if you go to our cat, you talk about our calendar that we go to, like, as Americans. It's a Saturday.

[Jay Oakerson]

Am I already booked?

[Supporting Guest or Co-host]

Oh, I'm not looking at that calendar. Hang on.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Are you looking at the Sun. The Spanish sun calendar?

[Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. Now she is.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Okay.

[Stephen Dubner]

Yeah.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Look at that.

[Jay Oakerson]

Hmm.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

I mean, Paco has a whole other calendar he looks at.

[Jay Oakerson]

I'm home.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

No, you're booked, damn it. Where?

[Supporting Guest or Co-host]

Seattle. You're booked every weekend for the next 50 weeks.

[Jay Oakerson]

That's fine.

[Commercial Announcer]

Jesus.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

What are you doing?

[Jay Oakerson]

Huh?

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

You have to, because you're.

[Jay Oakerson]

You're my life, dude.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

You're on the verge right now.

[Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, you're.

[Supporting Guest or Co-host]

Dude, you.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

I'm telling you, I was talking to Norton about this today. You're on the verge of becoming one of the.

[Jay Oakerson]

Oh, you mean success.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Success. You're on the.

[Jay Oakerson]

Oh, I thought. You're saying I'm on the verge of, like, a fucking. Like, I need to fucking stay on the road.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Oh, you're not gonna handle success well, but you're on the verge of it. I'm not saying it's gonna. You're gonna.

[Jay Oakerson]

Actually, I think I'm on the verge. I think I'm on the verge of madness. Like, on the edge.

[Supporting Guest or Co-host]

Oh, yeah.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Yeah. You're gonna get the opportunity, but you have a potential to fucking t. Troll. Come over, dude. I mean, you. Dude, you did something. I. I see it. I see the progress.

[Jay Oakerson]

Let me ask why I asked for that day is because I'm already out on the road. Doesn't matter. I wish there was some way we could, like, zoom in together or something, because game one, I believe, of the NBA season of the now 41. 41 of their games will be nationally televised. That was announced today. The Boston Celtics will be facing the Philadelphia 76ers, game one of the season, with LeBron. Oh, yeah. And Jaylen Brown. And. So Tyrese Maxey and. And.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Oh, God.

[Jay Oakerson]

BJ Edgecomb and Joel Embiid and Anthony Simons.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Yeah.

[Jay Oakerson]

And Kentavius Caldwell. I mean, they just. I don't know what's happening. They fired that old general manager who liked Old guys. Not that LeBron is old, but like he would just bring in like old like kind of washed up guys and this young guy has really done a good job.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

I. I have no respect for LeBron. I like.

[Jay Oakerson]

I would say that if he went to the Boston Celtics.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

I like. I don't like guys that came to the Celtics. I like guys like Bird and.

[Jay Oakerson]

And white guys.

[Guest or Co-host]

No.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

I like Magic Johnson guys who with aids. Huh. No no.

[Jay Oakerson]

You like bisexual Michael Jordan bisexual.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

I like guys who spent their spend majority of their career with one team.

[Jay Oakerson]

Of course.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Yeah, I like that. Yeah, I like that. I like that. Brady spent the majority of time with the Pats at the end. I get it. You kind of have to.

[Jay Oakerson]

That always does suck though the end switching. But he also switched in one another championship. But that's different.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

But Bird spent his career with the cells.

[Jay Oakerson]

I'm not a fan of it. I think he. My heart was actually like I think he should go back to Cleveland.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Should go back to Cleveland.

[Jay Oakerson]

That's where he should have went.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Should have went.

[Jay Oakerson]

But I you know once they say once the decision's made, you might as well just go, yeah, this be a fun year.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Here's what happens. They did that with the Yankees with a rod and they wound up he sucked he them and that's why the Red Sox won.

[Jay Oakerson]

They're going to be the talk of the NBA this year. That's all that matters. But I don't if maybe it's terrible season. Who knows? It'll be fun though. It's gonna be fun.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

I mean dude, if you guys don't win the chance. Here's a problem with it.

[Jay Oakerson]

Only expectations to win the championship.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

If you don't win, you guys fucking blow. And it's LeBron's fault.

[Jay Oakerson]

No, if they don't do it, it's because they can never met it said. That's. But the big argument I keep hearing is there's only one basketball. That's the big thing they say. And I'm like yeah, that's true.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Right.

[Jay Oakerson]

You have five stars on the floor at almost at all times. So there's only one ball. So it's like who wants to be the guy?

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Yeah, whatever they say stupid like that. Anyways, you have the best team ever assembled almost. You have a dream team like the one that would send to the Olympics.

[Jay Oakerson]

It's a pretty wild team.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

It's nuts.

[Jay Oakerson]

It's pretty crazy.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

It's nuts that you guys have so the only that will fuck that up is ego. If that's what the concern is if they don't. If they don't mesh well. Because that's what I'm with, a rod. He didn't mesh well. He was a rod and he thought he was the motherfucker.

[Commercial Voice or Guest]

He.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Remember the time he slapped the ball out of the first baseman's hand?

[Jay Oakerson]

Says it in the beginning right there. He's a rod. The guy's a total fucking rod. Like knob and a knob. A knob.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

He's an a, an A knob.

[Jay Oakerson]

He's a knob.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Yeah. I mean, it's going to be fun.

[Jay Oakerson]

Now that'll be.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

What if they win? What if they win every single game?

[Jay Oakerson]

Pretty awesome.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

And everybody in the country becomes a Sixers fan.

[Jay Oakerson]

I gotta tell you, I don't know. I don't know if I will ever be welcomed into that organization as like, jay, please come down and watch a Sixers game. We'd love to get you seats. And were there any kind of regularity with that? I don't know if that day will ever come.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

I think it will.

[Jay Oakerson]

But when I was waiting.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Hang on.

[Jay Oakerson]

Let me tell you something. Say one thing.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Don't. Don't bury the story.

[Jay Oakerson]

I'm not. I'm telling you one thing about it.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Okay. Well, you should tell us the story standing. It's a pretty epic night. You should get to that.

[Jay Oakerson]

I will.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

You're kind of going in the middle of the story.

[Jay Oakerson]

No.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

And telling us the kind of punchline before you give us the setup.

[Jay Oakerson]

No punchline. This is before I've done anything for you.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

This is amazing.

[Jay Oakerson]

Anything on the story?

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Okay. I'm just saying. Just check it.

[Jay Oakerson]

This is standing waiting at Lincoln Financial Field. The guys, Big Dom and his right hand guy whose name is, let's see, Brian. I have it. I shouldn't have guessed. I have in my phone, but he's. Yeah, Big Dom. They told me. They said to me in most casual

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

of ways, this is before the show. Okay.

[Jay Oakerson]

Yo, you ever. You ever get to come down the games? Yeah, I do. I try every year to get to like, at least one down here and I always go to the one in. In New York.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

I'm glad you summarized it for us here, but I know it's probably longer. No, no. I've been watching for a long time. Me and my, you know, my. My pop, my stepdad, my mom used to have sex with a bunch of guys. But the one guy that I did connect with, we used to watch all the time. And you know, I love. I always wanted to come to a game. I mean, you know, I'VE been invited before, but I always pay. I love my favorite game. Let me know. Let you guys know that. Oh, my God, I'm such an Eagles fan. I love this game.

[Jay Oakerson]

You're making. You're making an assumption based off of texting.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

That's different verbiage.

[Jay Oakerson]

Verbally, you're better, you know? No, well, not better. And I also verbally, I want to get out quick.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Did you bring up Kid Rock concert?

[Commercial Announcer]

I didn't.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Okay.

[Jay Oakerson]

I try to get out quick if I can.

[Guest or Co-host]

Yeah.

[Jay Oakerson]

And this was brought to me, by the way.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Right.

[Jay Oakerson]

They started talking to me and they said, do you ever. I said, I tried to go to those two every year, like two a year. And they. So casually, he goes, well, when you're coming now, you let us know. Get you all taken care of.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

When you're coming now.

[Jay Oakerson]

When you want to come to a game now, just let us know and we'll get you all taken care of. And I went, can you not say that if you don't mean it? And they were like. He's like, no, totally. He goes, dom says, there's a Big Dom guy, Dom we're all good for. He goes, jay, if he wants to come to a game, right, or take care of himself, he goes, yeah. And I went, I've been doing comedy for 28 years, and I think it was all for that. I think it was just for that. It was just for that. Right there on the road to Victor.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

You should have.

[Jay Oakerson]

He's famous. Big Dom's famous for. He'll, like, get in the fights with the other team's players on the sideline if they come over.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Can I tell you something? Usually when people have nicknames, they never match up to their nicknames.

[Jay Oakerson]

He's Big Dom.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

This motherfucker. They looked at him and gave him that name. Oh, yeah, he's. He's a guy. He's exact type of Philly guy you don't want to with.

[Jay Oakerson]

I don't even know what he's like. He's like. He's their security.

[Supporting Guest or Co-host]

Technically, senior advisor to the general manager.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

That is a made up mob

[Stephen Dubner]

chief.

[Jay Oakerson]

Security officer.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Yeah, that's made up. Hey, we're gonna put Big Dom on the payroll, all right? Had a security officer, probably.

[Jay Oakerson]

He's my age.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

What a. What a cool guy to know. I love guys like that.

[Jay Oakerson]

From South Philly his whole life.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Now he's wearing a necklace. He's got a couple of necklaces on.

[Jay Oakerson]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

That guy's massive. Look at his. Look at his head.

[Jay Oakerson]

Oh, yeah, that hat.

[Supporting Guest or Co-host]

He's wearing an Italy necklace.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

I want to meet this guy. I'm gonna become a goddamn Eagles fan. He's my boy. Is your boy. Have you. Have you texted him?

[Jay Oakerson]

None. Not at all.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

You should have.

[Jay Oakerson]

No, but the other guy.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Did he hit you up?

[Jay Oakerson]

The other guy did.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

What'd he say?

[Jay Oakerson]

Dude, make sure you let us know when you want to come to games. Like. Like real, you know.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

And what'd you say?

[Jay Oakerson]

Absolutely. I'll take you up on that for sure.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Do you have Dom's number?

[Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. And you number.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

What do you got for Dom?

[Jay Oakerson]

Dm.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Maybe he didn't get his number.

[Jay Oakerson]

I think it's number.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

You guys number.

[Jay Oakerson]

I don't know.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

You should text Dom.

[Jay Oakerson]

I'll get a hold of.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

You should just.

[Jay Oakerson]

I don't know if his name's. We're calling this guy. This isn't the guy. No, it's another guy.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

This guy right here. Big Dom.

[Jay Oakerson]

I don't have his number.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

You don't have his.

[Jay Oakerson]

I can message him, I guess.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

But you don't want. Don't message assistant. Do not message him. Do not met. Do not DM him. Look at me. Look at me. Do not dm. Oh, guy. Don't think about it.

[Jay Oakerson]

I won't. I wouldn't. Here's the thing, you know, ultimately, I don't know if I'll ever even try to call in this. This thing.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

You have to.

[Supporting Guest or Co-host]

You should pick a game like tomorrow.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Yeah, you should, buddy.

[Stephen Dubner]

You.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

You need to look at the schedule.

[Jay Oakerson]

Also, do you remember when I met a guy? When I did go to the Sixers game and sat up front, Remember I told you I met a guy, was like a Goldman Sachs guy or something. That guy messaged me after this night and was like, dude, you gotta let us host you in one of the boxes for a game this year for the stuff.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

And I was like, you gotta do that? No.

[Supporting Guest or Co-host]

Jay doesn't like being hosted.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Can I say, listen, this is your problem. This is why everybody loves you. It's because you. You just in every. You're an everyday dude. You don't want to be hosted. You don't be a problem. You don't want to be any on the cuff with anybody.

[Jay Oakerson]

I don't want somebody have to walk me around.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Yeah, you don't want that stuff. You don't want it. But you. But if you want fame. Do you want fame?

[Jay Oakerson]

No.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Do you? Let me ask you another question. Do you want money?

[Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Stephen Dubner]

Yeah.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

You want a lot of money? You know what comes with money? What, fame? No, look at me. Look at me.

[Jay Oakerson]

Not if I stop comedy and invent something cool.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

You're not inventing anything.

[Jay Oakerson]

You don't know that.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

First of all, we invented the flanker. What else did we. Didn't we invent something else? Didn't we? We had a whole invention.

[Jay Oakerson]

I'm gonna make a girl. I'm gonna have to make a girl. Electric bike. Electric bike just for girls. And then when you get it, it's just gonna be a fucking big mixer bowl. Here you go. Idiot. Get back in the kitchen.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Yeah, make a cake. Dumb.

[Jay Oakerson]

Stop trying to be. Stop trying to be a guy, you dumb.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Yeah. Hey, here's some checks you should deposit. Do. I don't know how to do this.

[Jay Oakerson]

You stupid.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

And go dye your roots. You embarrass me. Down at the lake.

[Jay Oakerson]

The night Bloody whore.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

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[Commercial Voice or Guest]

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[Jay Oakerson]

So I got to go down and open for Shane.

[Guest or Co-host]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jay Oakerson]

At the Lincoln Financial Stadium. And it was crazy. I was there all day, which probably maybe was like the better move. Ultimately it was. Got a little like. Boring is the wrong word. It wasn't boring, but it was like long. I got there like 2:30.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Why'd you get this early?

[Jay Oakerson]

He said there was a mic check I had to do. And then when you got there? I didn't.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

There's no mic check?

[Jay Oakerson]

No. When I got there, they. They directed me to the stadium and they were just like, you'll grab your microphone from her and then you go up there. There'll be a stool up there for you. And your song starts at 11 seconds in. And I went, I don't think so. I think it starts in the beginning. And he goes, you want to hear from 11 seconds in? He played it for a second and I went, do it from the beginning. And he played in the beginning and I went, from the beginning is good. He goes, okay, I will see you at showtime. And then just sent me off into the world. But you couldn't really leave. I could have, but I'm glad I didn't actually in that regard too. Because that area was not prepared for, you know, 45% more people than you've ever had at a football game there. Because the floor now, it's a sold out football stadium.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

You know, they have contact. They don't have concerts or something there.

[Jay Oakerson]

Not with that many. I don't think they were prepared.

[Supporting Guest or Co-host]

What was it? It was definitely the most amount of

[Jay Oakerson]

people's ever been in that place.

[Supporting Guest or Co-host]

Wasn't there something at one of the other stadiums?

[Jay Oakerson]

They said, what do you mean?

[Supporting Guest or Co-host]

I thought that there was something going on because all the stadiums are right next to it.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

No, all the stadiums are right next to each other. In Philly, they're right next to each other.

[Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, it's a really neat setup.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

That's crazy.

[Jay Oakerson]

It's a neat setup in certain things. It's could be a. If there's, you know, an Eagles and a Phillies game happening, that happens. Oh yeah.

[Supporting Guest or Co-host]

Wow.

[Jay Oakerson]

That's weird, but it's also a cool thing where there's sometimes where you can go to an Eagles game and then, you know, you go to like the 4 o' clock Eagles game, it ends at 7 o', clock, and you can go to the Sixers game. That's fun. That's a fun night.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Wow. That's crazy.

[Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Where's the Spectrum? Where was that?

[Jay Oakerson]

That.

[Supporting Guest or Co-host]

It's so it would have been like.

[Jay Oakerson]

It's the parking lot of the Vet Basic or the. Of the Link, more or less.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

I've. I've been there a couple.

[Jay Oakerson]

Oh, that was it. That's. That's.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Where is it?

[Jay Oakerson]

It's right there. It's. It's in the middle. In the middle one in the middle.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

The little one in the middle. That's the Spectrum.

[Jay Oakerson]

It's right.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Yes, that's it.

[Jay Oakerson]

That's the Spectrum.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

I've been there a couple times. I saw the sixers play with Dr. J. Yeah, nice. No, no. Charles Barkley. Oh, Charles Barkley. And I saw Monsters.

[Jay Oakerson]

I was gonna go earlier in that. Geese Osby. I don't know if that was me either. White basketball player.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

So. So you're there now. Are you the only comic there?

[Jay Oakerson]

Oh, yeah.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Why? So no other person is there on the show except for you?

[Jay Oakerson]

Right. And then I think. I think McCusker came and left at one point. Like, he went to do his mic check that it wasn't necessary, I guess, and left. And then I. So we just kind of hung there all day.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Was it. Where was your green room? You have your own green room. What was it?

[Jay Oakerson]

It's called the Lincoln Lounge. Right there.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Oh, wow.

[Jay Oakerson]

Pretty cool. Brian Dawkins picture behind me. The lighting's all Eagles, like, green and white, which is neat. This shit. I don't know what that is, that room. It's strange, huh?

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Probably for the wives and family.

[Jay Oakerson]

I don't know exactly. What's weird about it is had also had two, like. On the one side of it was just like wall of TVs. The other side of it had two, like, gates that can open up that would be like countertops. So it was almost like a concession. It could be a concession stand, sort of.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Also, the Celtics have all the green room. The. The dressing rooms for the Celtics. But they have a room like that for the wives. Yeah, for the wives to all hang out with, you know, VIP backstage type shit.

[Jay Oakerson]

What I did have access to all day, which I did make use of couple times going back in was just going. Be able to go into the locker room and stuff. And that was pretty neat.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Yeah.

[Jay Oakerson]

And then what you call. Then. Then whose locker were you.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Whose locker did you like, get the.

[Jay Oakerson]

No one's locker.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Oh, you didn't. You didn't know. Oh, they don't tell you?

[Jay Oakerson]

They're not. They're not labeled yet. They're not in the. They're not in the building yet.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

So they get different lockers. Isn't it. Doesn't the guy know, like, somebody worked there? Like this is what's his name's locker?

[Guest or Co-host]

No.

[Jay Oakerson]

I think it could change probably.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

I thought they're very superstitious about that shit.

[Jay Oakerson]

Some of them are. The first ones when you walk in were apparently Brian Dawkins lockers. But then Cooper DeJean himself said. I don't know if that's true. Someone said it does. They were like, that's Brian Dawkins. Where? He had the double locker.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

He had a double locker?

[Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, because he had Brian Dawkins and Weapon X. And explain that. Well, Brian Dawkins is the man, right. Takes off his street clothes and puts them in his man locker and then he becomes Weapon X.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

So he's two different people. One who plays football and one who is a person.

[Jay Oakerson]

Have you not watched 40 hours of documentary on this guy?

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

No, I have not. I'm sorry. I apologize.

[Jay Oakerson]

I did. So I thought maybe so.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

So he had two lockers. You had told us.

[Jay Oakerson]

I look so awful in that picture.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

You look great in that picture. What are you talking about?

[Supporting Guest or Co-host]

You were wearing the sleeveless. So I'm not posting it, but it's off. I thought you love picture.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

I think you look great. Let me see that picture again.

[Jay Oakerson]

Oh, my God. Belly looks.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

So somebody told you that that was his. His locker and Weapon X, he had two locker. That was his spot. Somebody told you that? And then what did you do?

[Jay Oakerson]

And then later I asked Cooper De Jean if that was true. Trying to make conversation with him, and he was like, I don't. I have no idea.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

And then you just. Did you say something after that?

[Jay Oakerson]

No. Moved on.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

You just took it?

[Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, took it and go.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

That sucks when somebody set you up with. With facts that are.

[Jay Oakerson]

No, he's actually at this point I will say Cooper De Jean, of all people on the Eagles currently at this point, I've now met several times and like, it's the most comfortable I be and still being uncomfortable around one of those guys because, like, he knows who I am now for sure.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

He knows who you are, but he's not treating you like who you are.

[Jay Oakerson]

No, no, no. Nor should he because he's who he is.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Yeah, but you're who you are. You just went out and performed in front of 70,000 people.

[Jay Oakerson]

So what was dope was as the night moves on now, people start showing up.

[Guest or Co-host]

Yeah.

[Jay Oakerson]

First thing I see is Cooper DeJean and Jordan Mylotta. They drive. They take me over to them to be like, they're gonna be introducing you on stage. Which I was like, well, that's fucking pretty dope. That's crazy.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

That's awesome.

[Jay Oakerson]

So I was pretty excited about that. And then it's just hanging around and you start seeing more people. Bam Marger is there. You know, then Shane people start showing up. My family starts showing up. When my family shows up, Dave Chappelle shows up.

[Commercial Voice or Guest]

Wow.

[Jay Oakerson]

Dave Chappelle has. I've known him, not known him, but I mean like I've been in his orbit years in places. 25 years.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Yeah.

[Jay Oakerson]

Right when I got to New York, right when I. My first place in New York is when I got. Was helping out on the Chappelle show a little bit like doing some punch up stuff for Neil and almost got the show was. And after that still he was never like. I mean we walked by each other almost like touching chest to get by each other in hallways and like hey, hey.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Yeah.

[Jay Oakerson]

No acknowledgement ever. Maybe he was at the roast. He came over and gave me such like an adoration like before, before anything. Still never said my name. So I'm never quite sure if he knows exactly who I am. Which is funny.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

He thought you would Jelly roll.

[Jay Oakerson]

It's possible.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

It' yo, man, your music's God damn it speaks to me, man. I never liked country till I heard your song, man.

[Jay Oakerson]

I think you made him a country western guy. Your accent went there for at the end.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Oh man, I'm going to.

[Jay Oakerson]

He haul in my union.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

You want to that guy, get him back. I don't know how to do it.

[Stephen Dubner]

Dude.

[Jay Oakerson]

Chase after him. Go chase after him. You love me so much. So.

[Stephen Dubner]

But he.

[Jay Oakerson]

So he comes over to me and my family and starts like, give me like a big like sweetest hello. And then, you know, I'm like, oh. They show like, hey, this is like my mom and you know, and Carla and Isabel and he go. He's hugging everyone down the line. So nice. Crazy. And then.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

And this is before you perform? Performed?

[Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Wow.

[Jay Oakerson]

Well before I performed and then, you know, it all started. Once it started happening, it started happening kind of quick. It all was going quick. So then Bam Marger did like an intro. They played a tires Preview. Tire Season 3 preview, which is fucking great. And then Jason Kelsey goes up and introduced Meek Mill, who comes out and does dreams and nightmares. Right. That's the song. The big Philly song comes out and does dreams and nightmares. I don't know the song. I mean, I've heard it played now a bunch of times, but I don't know it at all. But watching Isabella mouth the words while she's filming it, because it's also, like, a very spoken word beginning before it gets in the music. It's like. And then there's something in the star rise. And she just, like. Just all. Every word, mouthing it. And I was like, she's having a ball. And so then he. Then Jason Kelsey went back up and then does, like, essentially, like, a version of, like, his speech, his famous super bowl speech, where he dressed like the Mummers. Yeah, it's killing, of course, too. And he brings up McCusker. McCusker did great. And, like, which made me feel far more comfortable, you know, I mean, because I was like. I didn't. I wasn't really nervous about it leading up to it at all. It wasn't, like, keeping me up at night or. I wasn't overthinking it. I'm like, the biggest show. The biggest show ever. It's like, sure. But I do feel that way. It's kind of the same job, different place. What the Am I gonna. I don't do anything different.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Well, here's the thing about it, is that there's no X factor. Well, if bomb. You bomb in front of 72,000 people,

[Jay Oakerson]

I don't know how you could. Well, now, here's the thing. If this was, like, an Eagles game and they go for the halftime show, Jay Okerson's gonna go do 15 minutes of comedy. Like, that could go horribly bad. This is, like, so goosed up.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

To win for somebody who's bombed in front of 14,000 people, it sticks to your bones.

[Jay Oakerson]

I've bombed at those Mayhem Fest. I bombed at a couple shows.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Yeah, dude, it's. It's in your DNA.

[Jay Oakerson]

No, no.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

I'm pretty sure Max has it.

[Jay Oakerson]

But I'm saying the point was, I feel like this was an unfailable situation.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

I. I understand. Because it is a comedy show. They're there to see Chain.

[Jay Oakerson]

Unless you went full, like, character, and you were like, go, Dallas. And you were. If you were just doing a thing and they would just start booing you, but, like, they were so.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Can I say something, though?

[Jay Oakerson]

Even if you do ready to play.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Okay. It's gonna hurt. You want in front of that many people you gotta murder.

[Jay Oakerson]

Well, Matt did great. So he set the like tone for good, which was great. And then. But I mean so while he was on was when the guys were telling me like the they're gonna get me tickets now or you know that I could be hooked up right when I come. Which was exciting.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

And that's a little nerve wracking because if you bomb then you're not getting those correct tickets.

[Jay Oakerson]

I'd say that for not being afraid at all, not being nervous at all. I will say something so funny how white that audience is though. When McCusker was on, I just looked just kind of scan over the audience because I was now standing on the floor. Yeah, up and on the 50 yard line, but like off to the side and I'm looking and I saw one person and one person only. His black wife. I mean I saw. It was so funny. And then I elbowed Big Domino. I said turn the punch bowl. And he was like what? I go, yeah, nevermind. It's an old joke. Turn the punch bowl. Oh, you don't listen to Bonfire. No, it's an old joke. Don't worry about it. Feels wrong.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Who would have got that joke?

[Jay Oakerson]

I think Don Big Dom would have got Big Dom. Big Dom.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

I'm like, right, right, exactly right.

[Guest or Co-host]

That's.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

I was saying the same thing.

[Jay Oakerson]

No, Britney's Sweetheart. But yeah, it was funny but it just. It was such a white event that I just looked over and I just happened to see 70000 people just like walking down an aisle. I was like, oh, wow. So Matt did great. And I said. And he went up, he went off. And then they were just like. Because Jason Kelsey didn't go back up. And I was like, oh, I thought they said Jordan my lot and Cooper De Jean. I thought they were going to go up on stage and like say something, but they just had them like in like a tunnel and put a camera on them. And then they film me of course from the fattest angle, directly up from my dick. But they. It's pretty cool moment though because walking to. It's me walking to the stage like they did. They film it like they, they got you walking, going back to them.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Please tell me you had a cigarette. And as you. They said your name, you flicked it.

[Jay Oakerson]

No.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

And stepped on it like. Like Olivia Newton John.

[Jay Oakerson]

Back it up, Bob. You haven't seen this yet, right?

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

No, I haven't seen any of this. I wanted to Wait.

[Sierra Miller]

It's pretty.

[Jay Oakerson]

Hopefully you guys can hear pretty good. Wow. Couldn't guess what that noise is. Sounds like we're outside. All right, guys, we're outside now. We're gonna watch outside. It's nice.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Oh, my God. What's she doing?

[Jay Oakerson]

Nice day outside.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

What's happening here? All right, here we go.

[Jay Oakerson]

Wow. Pause it for a second.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

That sounds like they're booing.

[Jay Oakerson]

Back it up. Do you know what that is?

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

What is it?

[Jay Oakerson]

So it's so funny. This happens. Isabelle. Isabella actually disappointed me by asking me. This actually bummed me out when she asked me. I go, what's wrong with you? But Louis. And they're not alone. Fifteen other people have come to me, and they go, why were they booing? They don't think they're booing me. Because the Eagles guys are on right now. Cooper DeJean and Jordan Mailata. They're not booing them. They're saying Coop. Oh, so that's that thing. They go, coop. So everyone was like. Isabella said she got nervous, right? Because I thought they were booing you. And they saw you walking up because it wasn't Shane yet or something. I was like, oh, that would have sucked.

[Guest or Co-host]

Blown.

[Jay Oakerson]

I was like, lucky for me, I saw when. You know, I knew. I didn't even. I didn't know that was going to happen necessarily, but it doesn't. It did not make sense when it started happening. I'm like, oh, they're going for Cooper.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

That would have put you behind the eight ball. Because you think if they're like, guys, one more guy before. And boo.

[Jay Oakerson]

Ah.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Because they were doing that on Shane's tour, You know, when they were announcing, they would have.

[Jay Oakerson]

Don't you remember the ones we did in Florida? Somebody got shitty with me.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Yeah, yeah. Because they were like, one more.

[Jay Oakerson]

They were like, next. When I was up there, they were like, next. They go, next. What?

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Yeah, they were there.

[Jay Oakerson]

He's gonna come out early if I'm done.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Yeah, exactly.

[Commercial Voice or Guest]

Yeah.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

You had to trash them a little bit together, but that would have sucked for the 72, 000 people. All right, let me see. Let me see this.

[Jay Oakerson]

It's pretty neat.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

So, I mean, this is. I mean, that's so crazy, man.

[Jay Oakerson]

It's insane.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Look at that stupid couple right there. Can't find their seats.

[Sierra Miller]

Let's go.

[Jay Oakerson]

They keep going back and forth to us.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

There you are. You're on the Trinitron, walking up. Look at you.

[Jay Oakerson]

Wow.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Dude, there are no as you're walking up.

[Stephen Dubner]

Wow.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Listen to that.

[Sierra Miller]

Dude.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

They know who you are, bro.

[Jay Oakerson]

A lot of them did. That was neat. When I was waiting to go on, too. A lot of people were getting stoked and they saw me.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Come on, can we do better than that?

[Jay Oakerson]

Wake the up.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

You guys ready to laugh now?

[Jay Oakerson]

Are you guys ready?

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Yo, you guys ready? I'm pretty sure I can hear your girlfriend in the background.

[Jay Oakerson]

Thank you, Jamie. Thank you, Jamie.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Oh, I would have loved if you yelled out, thank you, Jamie, after one of your jokes.

[Jay Oakerson]

Thank you, Jamie.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Everybody laugh now.

[Jay Oakerson]

What was really cool during the day, though, because I was there so early, was seeing how many of, like the, you know, you first walk into something like that. Everyone's gotta be. Right away, like, we gotta go through your bag. Take your belt off, Bob. You gotta go through the pressure sauce. You're like, sure, whatever. I get it. Security. And then over the course of the day, those guys all came up, like, whether it be individually or together, at points, and they were just like. And a lot of them were doing the. They go all loving laughs over here, man. And I go, ah, all right. Just like the. Just all, you know, just like the orange shirt guys and the security guys, like, all loving laughs over here, man.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

They were cool, bro. That is.

[Jay Oakerson]

They started letting us in and out without having to bother with the security every time.

[Supporting Guest or Co-host]

As long as they saw us. They said, if we don't lose sight of you.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

This is what I love about you, though. You're in that night. All that craziness. That is a once in a lifetime thing that doesn't hap. That happens to 1% of the fucking population. Gets to do that in our community. You did it. You murder. You go up and do that, and then I guarantee you're in your hotel room by fucking, I don't know, 11:42.

[Jay Oakerson]

No, I just go home. I was supposed to leave the next day for Winnipeg next morning.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Oh, so anticlimactic.

[Jay Oakerson]

No, I did the thing. It was a little anti. Well, no, it wasn't on after the shows. Was kind of cool. So then after show, when I was done, yeah, I went out to go smoke. And then who comes? I mean, hustle and out to, like, smoke. And I was like, I wonder if he's gonna say something to me. Bam Margera.

[Commercial Voice or Guest]

Yeah.

[Jay Oakerson]

And he came over and he was chatting and having a good. I mean, he loved my bush jokes. Pussy, hair, bush.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

It's a good joke.

[Jay Oakerson]

I don't do politics. I mean, he was loving that. And then he's like, Mike, he's like, will you wait? Are you gonna be right Here because my wife wants to meet you.

[Supporting Guest or Co-host]

Wow.

[Jay Oakerson]

Sure. And then they brought them out. We were hanging with them for a while, then trying to think of some of the cool moment, but one of the coolest, again, just to double down. The thing was, Chappelle was leaving at the end of the show, and he was getting in his car, like, in the tunnel. And, like, you know, he just kind of looked over at me and I gave him. I was like. I was like, you know, it was a good scene. And then he came out of his car and ran over to me. And I said to my mom. My mom was right there. I go, oh, you're about to see something really cool. And he came over and he was just like. He was like, man, that was inspiring. He gave me, like, such nice compliments.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

You were inspiring.

[Jay Oakerson]

He said, yeah, it was awesome.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Are you sure he doesn't give jelly roll?

[Jay Oakerson]

It's possible. We have to wrap it up. Just when I became inspiring to Dave Chappelle, Jacob, I run the rules.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

All right.

[Jay Oakerson]

All right. Well, I guess we could talk more about it later.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

We'll talk about it tomorrow on the

[Jay Oakerson]

live show if I feel like it.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Oh, come on.

[Jay Oakerson]

Story sucks.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Inspiring. You inspired.

[Jay Oakerson]

Story sucks.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

I said, whatever.

[Jay Oakerson]

We love you guys. We'll be back. So now we're shades inside.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Shades inside.

[Jay Oakerson]

We'll catch you guys tomorrow on the bonfire. Jacob says we have to go. He hates my story. Crackle, crackle. Until tomorrow.

[Stephen Dubner]

Hey there. It's Stephen Dubner, host of Freakonomics Radio. And we have just made a new show, a TV talk show. It's called Better in Person. We have the kind of guests you don't see on every other show. And we have the kind of conversations you don't hear anywhere back.

[Jay Oakerson]

I'm like, yes, chef.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

Be home with the pork. You have the opportunity to make this

[Jay Oakerson]

little corner of the world into your ideal world, your dream world.

[Stephen Dubner]

You can watch better in person on the Freakonomics YouTube channel. You'll find a new episode there every week.

[Bonfire Host (possibly Big Jay Oakerson)]

This is how a conversation works.

[Commercial Voice or Guest]

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