Internet Lunatics with Richelle Ryan

Summary

The Bonfire with Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly

Episode: "Internet Lunatics with Richelle Ryan"

Aired: May 28, 2026 | Guest: Richelle Ryan

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Episode Overview

This episode of "The Bonfire" dives deep into the unpredictable, often toxic influence of the internet—especially social media—on comedy, stand-up culture, and personal reputations. Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly reflect with their trademark dark humor on their recent involvement in controversy following the Kevin Hart roast and the subsequent online fallout, particularly accusations of racism and Nazism. The episode also features an extended chat with adult film star Richelle Ryan about porn industry realities, fan interactions, and fantasies versus the real workplace. Throughout the episode, the hosts revisit the recurring theme of internet "lunatics" and the dangers of taking online discourse too seriously.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Fallout from the Kevin Hart Roast: Accusations and Annoyance

Timestamps: 03:50–15:00

• Jay and Bobby discuss D.L. Hughley accusing Jay and other comedians of being "Nazis" post-Kevin Hart roast, how the internet amplified negative reactions, and the futility of clarifying intentions online.

  • Big Jay: “My beef is with D.L. Hughley inferring that I’m a Nazi, which I think is just like... You’re a comedian spreading some shit like that. That’s pretty fucking retarded.” (04:00)
  • Jay observes the rapid escalation: “It just sucks that the Internet gets away from you. ... Internet lunatics, man. I don’t co-sign that.” (05:29)

• The hosts struggle with being made figureheads for their online fans' worst behavior.

  • Jay: "If you do that, you take away my ability to write these wonderfully hilariously racist jokes. ... I don't see a bunch of white supremacists at shows. I see a bunch of broke people, blue collar people." (09:12)
  • Bobby: “You’re not responsible for the internet, you fucking weirdo.” (16:18)

• Both hosts express how impossible it is to have a nuanced comedic exchange once it spirals online, especially involving race.

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2. Feeling Misunderstood: Clarity, Comedy, and Bad Faith Interpretations

Timestamps: 12:00–21:00

• Discussion of how accusations stick, especially the overuse and misapplication of terms like “Nazi,” particularly in comedic contexts.

  • Big Jay: “You should never go into the things and see what people are saying… It all goes away. Somebody else, something else is gonna come in and then I'm gonna remember this.” (14:01)

• Unpacking public responses and the “comments section” culture.

  • “Your point wasn’t lost, because if [Hughley] is intelligent … he’ll hear what you said.” – Bobby (16:57)

• Frustration at comedians (and others) feeling pressured to choose “sides” or perform outrage on podcasts for clout.

  • Bobby: “People are using this roast to platform themselves. They’re all clout chasing.” (25:22)

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3. The Nature of Roasts, Boundaries, and Offensive Material

Timestamps: 21:30–44:00

• Jay and Bobby reminisce about roast history, the boundaries pushed, and the reality behind-the-scenes.

  • Big Jay: "It's just a fact to point out to make jokes about [someone's appearance] … the Roadrunner wouldn't run through her if she was standing against a brick wall." (46:09)
  • Discussion of Chelsea Handler's post-roast criticism and the role of “being funny” versus pontificating.
    • Big Jay: "What Chelsea Handler's doing is bad ... It's a bad comedy thing she's doing." (22:12)
    • “Roasts were never about just friends and lightheartedness. Don Rickles was completely racist back in the day—and it was funny.” – Bobby (38:12)

• Debate over whether roast jokes are too edgy or fine as part of the art form.

  • “There’s a lot of people being called Nazis that aren’t Nazis.” – Bobby (18:07)
  • “You can not like Shane and not like Tony... But it’s the idea of calling them racist.” – Big Jay (54:09)

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4. Online Culture: Comments, Clout, and Social Media Withdrawal

Timestamps: 25:00–53:00

• The endless cycle of online outrage and clout-chasing.
  • Bobby: “This is the problem. Social media is the problem. ... Now, instant fame for nobodies who rile people up.” (51:54)
  • Big Jay: "You have to put it out there and then walk the fuck away and let them do what they want with it." (26:22)
• Host and peer responses: Should comics read the comments?
  • “I don’t look at the comments on Bonfire stuff anymore... If you’re gonna do something, do it and put it out there and that’s it.” – Big Jay (53:42)
• Discussion of comics' relationships in and out of “cliques”; not all friendships or rivalries are as serious as they’re made to seem online.

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5. Richelle Ryan Interview: The Realities and Fantasies of Porn

Timestamps: 56:20–end

• Richelle Ryan joins the show for a jokey, candid discussion on fan-directed porn, the appeal of scripted scenes, and what goes into a good shoot.
  • Bobby admits to loving exposition in porn: “I like the setup, I like the story, I like the build-up.” (60:50)
  • Richelle: “Now [fans] get to write and direct their own types of scripts… as long as it works for the talent and the setup.” (60:16)
• Reality of performers' choices and chemistry on set:
  • Richelle: “We have a very shortage of male performers in the industry. If you fail your first scene, it’s gonna take a lot to get hired again.” (63:50)
  • Jokes about ‘stepmom’ plots, favorite genre setups, and the implausibility of certain porno tropes.
  • Jay, on ‘the curtain being pulled back’: “You kinda don’t want to see how the sausage is made.” (64:28)
• Funny discussion about genre clichés and what makes a scene actually “watchable” for them.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “If you can make social media go away in one fell swoop, boy, would I make it. It’s done outweighing the good." – Big Jay (06:10)
• “You take away my ability to write these wonderfully hilariously racist jokes. ... I don’t see a bunch of white supremacists at shows. I see blue collar people.” – Big Jay (09:12)
• “What you did was amazing… People are using this roast to platform themselves. They're all clout chasing.” – Bobby (25:22)
• “Roasts used to be about friends and fun? No, they were racist. Sorry.” – Bobby (38:12)
• “I like the ones where they have to share a hotel room—where they get stuck somewhere.” – Bobby (65:55)
• "If you're gonna do what we do, you have to put it out there and walk the fuck away and let them do what they want with it. Has nothing to do with you. As long as your intentions are right." – Bobby (26:22)

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Guest Highlights: Richelle Ryan

Timestamps: 56:20–end

• Discusses writing her own patriotic “Naughty America” scene and why storylines still matter.
• Explains the fan-driven trend in adult content and the surprising shortage of reliable male talent.
• Shares her preference for having chemistry/choice with her co-stars.
• Jokes about genre, porn set routines, and the difference between fantasy and behind-the-scenes reality.

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Episode Themes

• The harms of online pile-ons and the far-reaching consequences of jokes taken out of context
• Comedians’ accountability for fan behavior on the internet
• The waning boundary between personal life and public performance
• Discussion of the evolution (and devolution) of comedy roasts: edgy versus offensive
• Pivot to lighter subjects with trademark Bonfire banter once Richelle Ryan joins

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For Listeners Who Missed It

This episode offers a glimpse behind the curtain at how comics really feel about controversy, public perception, and working in a hyper-connected world. It’s a nuanced, raw, and often hilarious meditation on the fine line between comedy and outrage—and what gets lost in translation online. The second half brings classic Bonfire levity as Richelle Ryan joins for industry laughs and forthright raunchy talk, rounding out a show that’s as much about the dark side of fame as it is about not taking any of it too seriously.

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Note:

• Skip intro chatter, ads, and outro segments for pure content.
• For the full Richelle Ryan interview, tune in after [56:20].
• Main discussion on internet fallout and social media toxicity runs [03:50–53:00].

Transcript

[Bobby Kelly]

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[Big Jay Oakerson]

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[Bobby Kelly]

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[Big Jay Oakerson]

And now the bonfire with Big J

[Bobby Kelly]

Okerson and Robert Kelly. Yeah, yeah, little Torgasm. Yeah, Torgasm esque.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I know. I can't wait till you and Dane get back together.

[Bobby Kelly]

You know, I've been thinking about that, Jay.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

I'm not opposed to it. Yes. I'm not opposed to it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Because she talked, Dawn.

[Bobby Kelly]

No, I'm talking to her about my manly decisions.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Understood.

[Bobby Kelly]

I'm a man. I make my own decision.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Apologies, apologies.

[Bobby Kelly]

She did suggest it'd be a good idea.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Okay.

[Bobby Kelly]

No, no, no. I was just thinking. I don't. I don't have. I'm at the point of my life now where I can go to bed at night and I don't have people on my pillow with me. I don't take. I don't take the day with me.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Sure.

[Bobby Kelly]

And, you know, there was a time back in the day I would. I go to sleep, I'm thinking about nine different people. Fuck them.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Fuck her. That's how I live.

[Bobby Kelly]

Oh.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I sweat at night. I wake up, I can't fall asleep.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah. I don't. I don't. And I. And I don't have him on my brain like I don't have. I never think of him in a bad way, you know, but it's fun to play with it. Sure. The thing of it, but I really. God bless the kid. And he went through hell. And he became famous too young. And all the stuff that he did, it's like, you know, I understand his dick.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Thinks he got famous just at the right age.

[Bobby Kelly]

He I mean, yeah, he's a. He's a powerhouse dude. I wish those are the stories.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That big.

[Bobby Kelly]

I know.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Take some of the best and brightest.

[Bobby Kelly]

Perfect penis, I'd say not big, not

[Big Jay Oakerson]

small, but just nice.

[Bobby Kelly]

Goldilocks.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Beautiful.

[Bobby Kelly]

It's an old Goldilocks.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Beautiful, but damn beautiful.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, I would. I wouldn't be opposed to having them on the show at all. I don't like to hold. I don't like holding people's careers back. I don't like to have that wielding power of. You know what I mean?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

Unless it's D.L. hughley.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, well, I'm actually glad you bring that up. I have to address something with the fans. This DL Hughley thing now is once again proven to me I shouldn't learn this. This is the. A grander, meaner scale for sure, probably, than the David Vox Molten dvm, you know, I mean, where you have like a. There's like, you have some sort of a relationship absurdity, baby, with the. With the audience. Do you know what I mean? Like, and like, you. We stupidly believe that you can like, somehow corral everybody in the name of, like, hey, let's have some fun and be funny.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And we'll have. Don't this guy over. Don't be shitty to him and don't attack him. And then someone does, of course, inevitably. And I thought. And I. It's like, I swear to you, because I'm so not like, involved in it, like social media back and forth, that, like, I don't pay attention to it and I don't overthink it. And then this happens. I'm. My beef in this situation with D.L. hughley.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Inferring that I'm a Nazi, which I think is just like. And whether it was. People were like, well, it's the clip. It's not on the actual. Someone said me. It's on the clip. It's not in the actual episode. It's like, well, the clip shows a picture of me when it goes through this thing. So.

[Bobby Kelly]

And the clip goes viral, by the way.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. Like, so you gotta, like, be. Pay attention to that better if you're going to do that. But I don't take back or change any thought I had about D.L. hughley's thing and the point. But, like. And I'm. I figured if the answer I was waiting for to go back on this, back and forth in this at all is from D.L. hughley. And then people who are like, you know, then there's people who are like, yeah, fuck Theo. Hughley, you're right. You're like, great. And then people are like, you know, Jay, you are a Nazi, you know, whatever. The people crawl out of the woodwork again like you're a Nazi and whatever. And then there's a bunch of people jump in the comments and go, D.L. hughley, you n word this and N word that and N word. And it's just like, I don't even. Let's say one of those 500 people are trying to make the point that I'm making about the whole thing, that you're just like willy nilly throwing out something. It's like pretty like damning and you're not being funny. If DLU is making jokes and being funny about the thing and calling us whatever, nuts, it is what it is. We make the jokes ourselves. Like about getting called that on the shows. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, but like, he wasn't making a joke. He was a comedian. So I take issue with the, like, you're a comedian spreading some shit like that. That's pretty fucking retarded. So I don't have anything. I don't know if I owe him an apology. I don't think I do for the reaction of the people. But I just almost. Just to point out how much that bums me out. Cause now the thing's lost. If I were D.L. hughley in this, I'd look at all that and be like, exactly. Everyone's a bunch of fucking racist pieces of shit.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And it's like, that's not the message I'm trying to send, man. And it just sucks that the Internet gets away from you. And that blows, man. Sucks because I said, like, why would D.L. hughes. Why would he even reply? And if he does reply, it's going to be of course with like. And look at these comments. And then I go, well, that's Internet lunatics, man. I don't co sign that. I think that's crazy. I said, if one person's trying to make a point, I think 499 are just being able to go, oh, we get to be faceless, hateful things. And no one's. There's no, there's no recall, you know, or what do you call that? Like, you're not gonna get in trouble for recourse.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, there's no find it. There's no find it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I said, what started with recourse? There's no recour for it at all. You know, I mean, it's like, you know, an egg or a picture of. That's not them or, you know, a celebrity or something. They have four followers and they just go on these things and do this. And it's like, I think it all gets put in the name of like. Yeah, yeah, Jay. Not even sort of, kind of. Well, I don't understand the thing. It's like, again, man, if you can make social media go away in one fell swoop, boy, would I make it. I really. It's the negative. It's done outweighing, like, the good is, like, it's so much. Whatever it is for promoting shows and stuff is great. Like the negative of that, like, it's just something in my mind. I'm like, you're watching me to call me, like, whatever, a pseudo F level celebrity who maybe through this thing that came at me from a, you know, an A level celebrity, arguably. You're not an F, you're a D. Okay, sure. D. C. Maybe C. Now let's say C. Let's say C plus and an A level celebrity.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Who said something. And we. There's a chance that like through our back and forth, we'll get to each other maybe or something. Whether it just goes. Stays on, like back and forth on social media or something. It's like the, the involvement of everybody else to jump in and then the whole thing's polluted and then the point is gone. And then my original point of, you know, like, you can't just say with no joke, like, these are Nazis. And by the way, I keep making it about myself because the thing is, I wasn't even in the controversial part of that roast from what everyone's complaining about, but if I was, I was. I'm just like, neither Shane nor Tony are Nazis either. And you know, almost what Lewis said in the post. Well, but almost what Lewis said in the post where he was like, the word Nazi does mean something. There's like a meaning behind it. There's like a thing there. So it's like you're just saying it wrong. And if he was on, if him and his crew were sitting around laughing, telling the story and going like this. And he goes, bunch of these. He goes, these guys are Nazis. They're blah, blah. And he's like making jokes or something. There's like something. There's no air. He's going like, he wants his audience to think like, these are Nazi dudes. Or connecting me to like mag Maga. Why? I don't give a shit. I think at this point, with my limited information, I think Trump's probably awful at this point. I kind of went from like, I don't really care at all.

[Bobby Kelly]

Country's been the safest has been in fucking ever.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

The what?

[Bobby Kelly]

Country's been the safest it's ever been.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I saw that thing last night.

[Bobby Kelly]

Jacobs, Jacob's not even. What are you talking about? Blacks have no problems. Now we stop with your, you know, nothing about browns, but no browns. There's only a few browns. We love browns.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

There's only a few left.

[Bobby Kelly]

They're all still working in the. They're everywhere. Wait, do you think ice doesn't count? Huh? Listen, listen, I'm just, I'm just joking. California liberal over there.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

California dreaming over here.

[Bobby Kelly]

She hasn't looked at a newspaper or the news and ever. I wish.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, so it's just like, you know. Yeah. I don't know. That whole thing, when I read those happening so many times. I had, I had those two.

[Bobby Kelly]

I've tried to talk nine times. No, dude, you got to get this out. Dude, go sort of get it out.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I've had this with the original guy that. The Seth Simon guy, I guess wrote something about this too, but that doesn't mean anything. But like, I've tried with him. That other girl and the guy who had the problem with like legions. That girl who like, flip flopped, whatever, that Hispanic chick. Louisa. Yeah, yeah. Like, she and I, them, I had them right on the cusp of like, well, I'll come on your podcast, I'll come on your show and we'll talk about this. And they were like right there and then fans. And she's like, well, here's what, you know, quote unquote, your fans are putting up there and it's just N word and stuff. And you're like, yo. I'm like, you're not helping. I almost got on the show, was able to make my point here, but it's like, you guys are just gonna like. It's like, ah, I'm bored and waiting for my kids to get home from school. I'm just gonna throw the N word. This lady just move on. They don't care. It's like it's them. It's just kind of like, ah, it's like, they're just like, you know, poking a thing and like, you know, running away. But it's like, yeah, I kind of got to deal with it ultimately there because they're making me the representative of you somehow in their minds. And that's not the for sure the message I'm sending. And if you do that, you take away my ability to write these wonderfully hilariously racist jokes. How could I make them if you guys are a bunch of racists out there yelling stuff or at least giving off that idea that you are just as like, I don't know. It's not a good thing. I go to Skank Fest every year and I'm on the road every weekend. I don't see a bunch of fucking white supremacists and fuck, you know what I mean? I see a bunch of broke people. I see a bunch of blue collar people.

[Bobby Kelly]

You see a bunch of people.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, so it's, I don't know, it's an interesting spot to be in. It's so funny. Cause I'm like, it sucks that, like, and again, I don't, I don't feel I owe an apology to D.L. hughley at all. Because whatever he turned on me from what he said could have been, you know, I mean, but like, Jesus, man, like, people, Whatever happened to just observing, like, watching the situation? Everyone's so involved. Yeah. It's like, who killed J.R. it's like, oh, I don't even care anymore because I've been on the Internet Talking about to 70,000 people about theories for the next. What? Jesus Christ. Just watch it and enjoy it.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, but you had to do what you did. I, I, you should never. This guy came at you on his platform, and it was especially to you to lump you in that. The, the guy who put your photo, I really believe he was talking about Shane and, and, and I think he

[Big Jay Oakerson]

was talking about Tony particularly.

[Bobby Kelly]

I think he was talking about Tony and maybe Shane, he was not talking about you. One, nobody knows who you are.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

True.

[Bobby Kelly]

No, I'm kidding.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

But two, but to introduce me is this is one of the Nazis, Shane, Tony, and that other guy that was up there.

[Bobby Kelly]

But I don't think you ever said your name. I think he didn't, I think he

[Big Jay Oakerson]

didn't say Tony or Shane's name.

[Bobby Kelly]

I think he put the clip guy found the white guys on the roast and just stuck you in it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

I really think yours was a mistake. I think if he said, if he, if he saw who you were, he would have been like, who the fuck is that? Or I don't know him.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't want to absolve. If I was out of it, if I was not in it, I probably wouldn't have, I mean, obviously wouldn't have dived in as hard on a personal level. But like, the same thing goes like, if he came to me and he was like, well, I'm Sorry you got lumped in with that. I go beyond. Tony's not a Nazi and Shane's not a fucking. I mean, it's. They're crazy.

[Bobby Kelly]

You don't.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You don't.

[Bobby Kelly]

You know, the thing is, though, you're defending. You being lumped in with that. You don't need to defend. No, no, no. Tony. Tony, first of all, loves it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Of course loves it.

[Bobby Kelly]

He's in wrestling. This is great. This is all good for him. Shane could give a fuck. You are not. You're like, I'm not a fucking Nazi. And the fact that you made that clip and said what you said, and you were funny about it, you. Your insult was actually funny.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

This Django hat.

[Bobby Kelly]

I mean, dude, come on, that's hilarious. And you came up with another slang.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Just because you take pictures with your hand on your. With your finger on your temple doesn't mean you're saying something smart.

[Bobby Kelly]

You came up with another racist slur. Django hat.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Django hat.

[Bobby Kelly]

So you had to be done, dude. And. And when you did it, it should just. You should never go into the things and see what people are saying. That. That part of it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Well, it was brought to me, and it's just kind of like. Well, yeah, And I read that, right? And I immediately. I. If it makes sense. I already don't love the tension of, like. But I thought something to be said about the D.L. hughley thing. So I. I don't like the tension. Like, we've talked about this before, like, going to bed at night, where it's like, all right, let's see what tomorrow brings. I laid that out there. Now I told my thoughts on it. Let's see how it goes. And I wake up and, like, I'm not like. I don't just have like a. Yeah, whatever, do what happens. I'm kind of like, let's go, let's see. It's like. Cause I believe in what I'm saying here. And I was like, so if D.L. hughley wants to. And then you see, before it even gets. Before I even know if it's a DL Hughley, it's a million and one. Just like that. It's like people showing me, like, by the way, some people making good. Backing up my argument. Good. But it's like almost in the same thing there. It's like, I don't need you to back my argument. I got it. I believe in what I'm saying.

[Bobby Kelly]

Thank you. Tell those people to stop. You shouldn't look at any of that shit.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It won't hurt It'll make it. And even doing this is going to make it tenfold worse. Well, here's the points lost.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, but you. If you never look at the comments or what people are saying, you never get used to put it out there. Walk the away. I remember when, when I, when I did the regs and I. My. The electricity went out and I wound up leaving and then they. The everybody Danny was like. And they started. They called me the moose or whatever. They're doing all this funny shit. Yeah, Danny called me up, he's like, bobby, this is bad. This is going to be bad for you. I was like, danny, I am never going to read anything about it. I'm going to go back to my three friends and we'll think of something funny to do. I had to leave to go. I want. I was worried about my family. I'm not letting dumb Louis bullying me into doing a fucking podcast when my wife is fucking scared somewhere. Go fuck yourself. And even if it does blow back on me, what is it going to be for two days a week? Who gives a fuck? It all goes away. Somebody else, something else is gonna come in and then I'm gonna remember this.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, no, no. Without a doubt. I'm just saying more for like the idea of like the bummer of like where I thought that could go is to have whether it be like the two of us either making points back and forth, maybe the two of us jawing back and forth on each other. That's never gonna go to me like on like a heavy racism fucking thing. You know what I mean? So it's like if me and him went back and forth. But yeah, it's like I just like, it's almost like I forget. I'm like, oh, yeah, dude, people just to go black guy versus white guy. Everyone starts jumping. And then they said, oh, there's gonna be a bunch of black people saying like, here they go, these Nazi motherfuckers supporting their Nazi guy. And you're like, ah, this whole thing fell apart. Like, I just wanted to say, don't call me a Nazi unless you're making a joke, dick face.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, but you did it in a funny way. And it's not about what I said.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You're right, it moves on immediately. But I'm just saying it never.

[Bobby Kelly]

It's never.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

So is the point. Should I never. So don't waste your time responding to anything like that on my forums because you're like, well, then it's gonna become that. I don't want it to become no you should. And I got to eat shit.

[Bobby Kelly]

You should always respond on your forums. You shouldn't look at the accolades or the bullshit. That's not for you. That's for those people. What other people think you're right or you're wrong. That isn't. That's not for you.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

People disagreeing with me bothers me way less than people trying to say somehow in the name of me, which I don't know if that's what they're doing, but I was like, if they're. It's being presented in the name of me, that they're just coming in and just being like, come on, I'm gonna say the N word six times.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, but if you stop.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It's not what I'm doing.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, but that's not what you're doing. You're not responsible for that. And you ever came at you. You have fans. I'm not responsible for the Internet, you fucking weirdo. You're not responsible for.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

But where do you draw the line on, like, the responsible for saying yelling fire in the theater? It's not a fake claim, but I'm saying, like, where are you? You know, it's the argument about Trump, like, hey, why don't you guys head over there and. And tell them how you feel over at the Capitol Building? You know what I mean? Like, it's the thing. It's like, I'm not trying to send some army of, like, racist out to scream the N word of DL Hughley, but it's like, if that's what. That's inciting, that sucks. How do you do that?

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, but you don't. You don't have control over that. You can't control when you put something out there. It has nothing to do with you.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

But then I have no point. But then my point's lost.

[Bobby Kelly]

Your point? No, your point wasn't lost. Because if he's intelligent as he says he is, when he puts his finger. Yeah. When he's wearing a hat and putting his fingers to his chin. If. If he does.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He does think like Malcolm X a

[Bobby Kelly]

lot, he's going to hear what you said and go, you know what? He made a point. And he's not. He's not going to listen to the. The people that look at the comments and listen to those people make their argument from that, that they're unintelligent people. And they're just trying to take that to say, see, he is. That those are fucking stupid people.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It's the feeling I had when I remember when it was like, they go, aziz Ansari has sexual harassment lawsuit against them. And you go, nice. Here we go. The fall of something I never quite got to watch rise and I'm not really attached to emotionally. And here comes that fall. Oh, we have so much to talk about. Making fun of little Indian Aziz and his sexual harassment charges. And then you have to read the article and go, well, this lady's a dumb crazy bitch. And now I have to go defend Aziz. He's doing fine. He doesn't need me to defend him. But I came in so excitedly hot that he was going to be a creep, and he turns out he's just fine.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah. And he never fell either.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He never fell. Thank God. Because nothing. He didn't do anything.

[Bobby Kelly]

No, dude, that whole thing, you have to be able to do that. That's what you do. You have to be able to stick up for yourself. Because there's a lot of people being called Nazis that aren't Nazis. They have nothing to do with that. And here's a guy, a public figure that's being lumped in with a fuck. Terrible thing. Calling somebody a Nazi is a terrible thing to do if you know anything about what they did. And to throw a comedian, a fellow comedian under the bus, like, that is stupid and he should be checked on that. And I guarantee you, if somebody did show him this, you he did, if he has any funny in him at all that he did go, yeah, I shouldn't have done that. I shouldn't have said that about that guy. I shouldn't have said that about these guys.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Or let the clip go out. That appears. It's what you're saying because it's his clip. It's like from his thing. It's not somebody else editing over his thing.

[Bobby Kelly]

What do you mean?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

The clip I said in the actual podcast, that picture, the way they drop like, that apparently doesn't happen. Someone said to me. But on the clip it does. Yeah, so that's the thing I saw anyway. And by the way, it's not a misunderstanding, but I mean, like, I guess it is to some degree, but I mean, like, it's just like you said, though, you should be able to have like the back and forth thing. And if you hear. Even gets this again, it's. It's the. Why I say it's the Aziz things. I'm still like, it's not even the word Nazi word. Nazi doesn't bother me one iota.

[Bobby Kelly]

It's what the people. It's the ones that. That word brings those people out.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It's Exactly. So it's like you're calling me this and my point of just being like, you're talking about the roast. Even if you're shitting on people you didn't think were good, you're not being funny while you're doing it. You're giving here like, you're giving like some earnest opinions. And one of those earnest opinions without having a thing is like, everyone's MAGA and Nazi or whatever and you show a picture of me, it's just like, that's irresponsible as shit, dude. So fuck you for fucking doing that thing. But now, exactly at the same time, it's like everyone's like, you N word. That N word said. You're like, God damn it. No, hey, D.L. hughley, that's not what I'm doing. I'm trying to tell you that you're a fucking jerk off for other reasons. Be funny, fuck face is my point. More be funny and stop pontificating and telling me what's too serious or not. Okay?

[Bobby Kelly]

I think the only thing to do right now is this gank fest has become full blown Nazi. Get a nice and dive in.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Head first, dripped out in Hugo Boss.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah. Thin leather suspenders and some. Some work boots. I mean, you already have the clothes.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

My legs are. My legs aren't slim enough for a good old fashioned. What is that called? Not the duck walk. Is that what it's called? Yeah, the duck walk.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, the duck.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's annoying.

[Bobby Kelly]

Well, dude, when you put something out there, you know, you shouldn't. You shouldn't you put it out there to him.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't know if my point ever trickles to him.

[Bobby Kelly]

I think his point. I think he saw it. I think he saw it. And if he's reading the comments, that's just ridiculous because they're going back and forth. And this is what people. This is what people do. They. They don't. If you made a polite comment like, hey, I don't like being called a Nazi, I really don't appreciate. That's not going to get viral. That's just going to go away. The fact that you did it in a funny way and then those people got in the comments and started fighting and saying all. That's how that shit, that's how people blow up.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

We know it's very, very funny. And Christina said a thing up here for a second I'd like to actually see because I saw a different one and I think this is interesting. And you know, I tell you, Cheryl Underwood was The jokes where I was like, for someone, the only person that I made jokes about that I didn't know really.

[Bobby Kelly]

Right.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Never met before and was like, I hope she doesn't get upset with these. Because, like, I don't know. I don't have anything about the husband or like that. But I'm like, you know, I don't know if she's like, if she's gonna be like, that's enough black jokes, motherfucker. You know, I mean, like. But I didn't really have much else.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And she was so nice when I met her beforehand and stuff and continued to be afterwards. Shout out foxhole. Shout out foxhole in our messages. But she's been such a good. And Tiffany Haddish, too. Such good, like, representatives of, like, the night and saying they're funny like that. This is bummed me up because she was nice to me that week, the few times I saw her, and I don't have a lot of interaction with her. What Chelsea Handler's doing is bad. I think it's as bad for. It's a bad comedy thing that she's doing.

[Bobby Kelly]

What's she doing?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

She's going around to multiple shows and saying, like, flat out, she's like, I didn't think the jokes were funny. I didn't like any of the jokes.

[Bobby Kelly]

Well, she's on film laughing at him.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I know, but she's like. But then she's going like, I. You know, but if Kevin had a good night, it was about Kevin having a fun night. I think he had a good time. But, like, I don't. And I think says, like, that Shane. And I think she's like, co signs very much that they're racists and whatever. And like, come on, man. Like that. Especially to see the thing. It was like, you know what racists don't do? Sit in the back of a room before something like that and go like, man, I hope people just laugh at this and don't get upset, you know, I mean, like, that's. We're all worrying about this, you know,

[Bobby Kelly]

or racist don't do hug Black people on TV in front of 13.5 million people.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

What do you say? Don't what?

[Bobby Kelly]

Hug black people. They don't celebrate one black guy and go, I love you, man. They don't do that.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, dude, it's. You're sitting up. The racists don't go on panels unless it's on Jerry Springer.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. Why would I go? Wouldn't I hate Kevin?

[Bobby Kelly]

Yes.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And all of his faulty success. I'M gonna say all a bunch of racist things now. All of his industry plant black bullshit. No, exactly the point. Like, why would you interact in this thing at all if I was, like, full of hate for these people? It doesn't make any sense. So. So none of the people up there are.

[Bobby Kelly]

And he doesn't know where you come from. He doesn't know that you are a, you know. Black people rule. Yeah, you should mail him that shirt, by the way.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Black people rule.

[Bobby Kelly]

Oh, my God. You should get him.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Here's some of my merch. Hey, DL before you call me a racist or a Nazi again, here's some of my merch, dog. Did you not see the shirt? You show me the Nazi.

[Bobby Kelly]

Not see the shirt. That was good. Oh, you didn't even mean to do that.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

All right, Jake, did you not see the shirt?

[Bobby Kelly]

I like that Twitter is deactivated, huh? Oh, look what you did to him. Look what you did to him.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Was my. Was that stuff I saw on Twitter. I guess it was kind of Louis telling me about it.

[Bobby Kelly]

You shut up.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I told Louis. You know what's funny? Lewis is the one who sent me the thing to say that, like, DL Healy basically called you a Nazi. And I was like, really? And then today he started going like, he's the one. Do you see the comments if I go, but you're gonna have to stop telling me because I'm getting emotional about things that I probably would have never seen. I saw a brief thing of deal. Huey talking about the roast. Maybe I even heard because I had it playing when I was in the bathroom or something or taking a shower and didn't even see those clips. Never assumed it was talking about me and probably moved on from it. So Louis reminds me, and then I get all worked up. I'm like, wait, what? They said I was a Nazi racist. I could have just spent my whole life not knowing that.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, well, Lewis lives in it. Lewis loves it. That's how he loves it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He does love it.

[Bobby Kelly]

Lewis will go and actually hear fans comments about his performances on show and adjust and try to, like, he's been on the regs going, dude, the fans don't like when we do that. Who gives?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

They're here. Yeah, they like something.

[Bobby Kelly]

It's. How many Fans? Is it 20,000 people? No, it's fucking four people. So we adjust everything for four fucking go fuck yourself.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Well, it depends the thing. Louis will go if it's something that's, like, negative, where you're like, hey, I don't want to do this. Thing anymore because people be negative. He always goes, dude, that's like five people out of, like, you know, hundreds of thousands. That's five people you're going to be worried about. Five people asked to take things out of shows. Like, Justin Silver would be like, hey, like, you take that out. Like, you guys were going. And then, you know, my people are, like, messaging my mom and stuff.

[Bobby Kelly]

That was me.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And then, like a dude. If you take it down, so you're just feeding the fire, and it's just like. It's like, you got to just go with it everything. It's like, take that down immediately.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah. It's so weird.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It's great.

[Bobby Kelly]

It's crazy. Yeah. Dude, I think that what you did was amazing. I thought it was good. It was hilarious. It was funny, and the roast was amazing. And if people all the. But people are using this roast to platform themselves. They're all clout chasing. Everybody's clout chasing when a roast happens. It happened last year, too. Any time this type of event happens, everybody's waiting to either rip it apart or see how great it was or rip apart the people that said it was bad. It's just what you. That's what the Internet lives off of. It's divisive horseshit when people fight. It's opinions going after opinions, and that's what it. That's what the rhythm the algorithm thrives on and people love to get into because it's addictive to hear something say this, and that's funny. Oh, my God, that's vicious. It's all bullshit. You can't look at any of it. If you're gonna be. If you're gonna do what you do, we do what we do. You have to put it out there and then walk the fuck away and let them do what they want with it. Has nothing to do as long as your intentions are right. Which they were, buddy.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

A million articles and whatever come out to me. I said, whatever hit me was DL Hughleys. And also, except because weeks before, when Lewis said he just bumped into him at a restaurant and told the thing, and he goes, and it could have just been yes ending, but he was like, yeah, I do a podcast with Big J Okerson, and blah, blah, D.L. hughey said. He said. It was like. He's like, oh, yeah, Big J. I know Big J. We've never met, so he doesn't know me, but if he knows of me, even I was like, oh, neat. I'm like, d. O. Huey knows who I do. You know what I'm saying so it's like it hit me on a thing. It's like. So I get that feeling. It's sick. It's the handshake out. I'm like, oh, maybe I'll meet D.L. hugh. And then he already knows who I am. That's kind of a cool thing.

[Bobby Kelly]

I guarantee you.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And then he's like, these guys are Nazis. Fuck you, D.L. hughley. A piece of shit with your dumb fucking hat.

[Bobby Kelly]

I guarantee it wasn't talking about you. I. I guarantee it. And I guarantee he would come in here and have a conversation with you. But it's gonna be. It's gonna be serious.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I did call him the F word. But that was my point making thing. That was my point making. I chose not to go N word on it unlike everybody else on the Internet. Now, a lot of people on the Internet must say most of them didn't make that decision, but I did. Yeah, I just chose to not make my point with that.

[Bobby Kelly]

Good for you, buddy.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Thank you. That's. That's progress.

[Bobby Kelly]

It is progress.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Progress. Remember why I didn't say anything racist to the, to the bus driver?

[Bobby Kelly]

I was right. Remember you saved my life yesterday. I was gonna hit by a car. Unbelievable.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Received a lot of ethnics. I consider Bobby and ethnic. He's a dumb Mick.

[Bobby Kelly]

I am.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You crazy dumb Mick. Do you have the Chelsea stuff? You got to see this. It's pretty wild.

[Bobby Kelly]

I was gonna say it's four minutes long.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

So I'm just not sure. Fine. Let me get fine. Clips she's did on several shows.

[Bobby Kelly]

But this is what, like she has to do this. Who's the other one that has to do. The one that held the Trump head up. What's her name? Kathy. She had. She has to do this. This is what they have to do. Her fan base. This is what they want. And when they, when you get. I always said you need a people in a catchphrase and you're fucking famous. These peop. They have a people. They have to appease their people. If they go against their people at all, they're fucked. They're going to lose. They're going to lose their fan base. They have to. She. Kathy Griffin has to fucking do this bullshit. Because that's her thing. She used to be fun, stupid, make fun of people. Almost like Joan Rivers. That was awesome. And now she's this thing, this. She represents. I hate Trump and mega and all that. It's like you're. You're losing so many people that probably love you as a comedian.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

She also Looks like weapons. So I mean, cheese. That's a lot of the problem.

[Bobby Kelly]

Is that the movie with Nick Cage?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No, no, no. It's the show. Bobby, weapons, please.

[Bobby Kelly]

I know.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Could you. Bobby, weapons with side by side. You can give a side by side of Kathy Griffin and weapons. This kills Christine because she loves Kathy Griffin. I know, but she also knows she looks just like weapons.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, I, I don't hate Kathy Griffin. I mean, all my friends do. She's made me laugh.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

But it's like when she was younger, she's giving us some of her specials.

[Bobby Kelly]

I do. When she start, it's like, can you just fucking do comedy and stuff? I don't know why we're getting into this shit where we have to say something.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Age. Because Simply, me being 48, I do now just circumstantially know more about political stuff than I've ever known before. And I still know very, very little. But I mean, I'm just. It's in the atmosphere. So I know the thing, you know.

[Bobby Kelly]

But you're still funny about it. It's still a joke.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Not only am I funny about it, I also just tend to not talk about it at all. I'm just like, that's not my job. It's not this stuff and I don't know anything about it unless I have a nonsensical. I said my political jokes end in just like, you know, dick and balls and what they're not about anything. Ever noticed that keeping the same workouts and eating habits doesn't always deliver the same results over time, especially around energy and body composition. As you get older, many men experience changes in testosterone which influence how the body stores fat and maintains muscle. Mars Men is a natural supplement designed to support healthy testosterone levels and overall wellness. Using ingredients like Tongkat, Ali, Shilijit, zinc and boron. It's formulated without synthetic hormones and is made in the USA with third party testing. Some users report steadier energy, improved focus and better workout performance when combined with consistent habits. Plus, it comes with a 90 day money back guarantee. For a limited time, our listeners can get 50% off for life plus free shipping and three free gifts@ Mengotomars.com that's Mengotomars.com for 50% off and three free gifts when you check out and it's also available on Amazon. After you purchase, they'll ask where you heard about them. Please support our show and tell them that our show sent you. These days, a free offer doesn't stay free for long. The hidden fee starts stacking up service fees, activation fees. Next thing you know, it's not free at all. But at Metro by T Mobile, you can get the new Samsung Galaxy A17.5G phone free and save with no activation fees. That's about $250 back in your pocket. What could you do with that? So many things. You could buy junk food or video games or maybe go buy a ticket to the theater. They say the theater is dying. Help them out. You got 250 extra dollars in your pocket. Get that more for your money feeling only at Metro. What are you waiting for? Find your local store. Just bring your number and sign up for the $40 period. Plan savings based on device discount and waived activation fee. Not available. If you were with Metro or T Mobile in the past 180 days.

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[Big Jay Oakerson]

She did more than this. What'd she say? Lynch.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah. Lynching is not as is. Is worse than rape.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Is that what she's saying? I mean, it is worse than rape. I guess it's killing someone.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah. Depends on who you get raped by. I got raped by Zach, amigo. That's. I'd rather be lynched.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

For sure.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah. I don't want to have to smell all that.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, it's a lot. It's like getting raped by 17 hoagies.

[Bobby Kelly]

I love the word hoagie.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It's such a good word for that, too. Oh, man, he's sweating on the outside and inside.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

She's gotta say this shit, though. She's got. She has, because that's her thing.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

But again, I also agree. It's like the argument. A comedian making the argument they're going. Lynching is worse than rape. It's like as an act, as a word. I don't know what I mean. You can make an argument, I guess, either direction on that, depending on who you are. I go, however, saying, someone's so tiny, they have to lynch him from a tree. There's just no. Like, this isn't being set around a Ku Klux Klan campfire. It's like, that's a funny joke because lynchings existed and it sucked. And it's something that we're laughing about now on a thing because, by the way, how funny is it they have to lynch Kevin Hart, the richest guy in the room, who's killing it, who put the whole thing together.

[Bobby Kelly]

How funny is it against that? Keith would say that joke to Kevin and we'd all laugh at it. But it's like, okay, you can say it. I can't say it. It doesn't make any sense in the environment of a roast. And they said they had this somebody going roast used to be about, you know, having fun and lighthearted and with friends. It's like, no, it wasn't. 100% wasn't. They were racist. Sorry. Don Rickles was completely racist back in the day.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Sure.

[Bobby Kelly]

I mean, everything he said was racist. And it was funny.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

The jokes, the jokes and stuff.

[Bobby Kelly]

They're all. All fucking jokes and Joan Rivers, the same thing.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Here's the only argument I can understand making, and not that I understand why doing it. I talked about this with Ari, actually, because he was saying I was wrong. I wasn't saying he shouldn't have done it. I'm just saying I get an argument by saying, like, he said you were

[Bobby Kelly]

wrong for saying that.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No, he said what I'm saying here is wrong. Cause I told him. I go. I hear an argument for saying, why is Tony there? Not because of his fame or talent or ability. He's there because he's a great roaster, and that's why they put him in there. I understand making an argument because how about not Tony and have Keith do something up there that would take too long or have. Or have Spank or one of his other writers spank that are on the road with him all the time and people like. And then the Rock makes sense and friends that are celebrities and stuff. Tony kind of doesn't make sense in that regard overall. But he got the job because he's phenomenal at what he does when he does it. He's great at it. So I'm saying for Tony to go up there.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, that's what he says. Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, he does say that about himself, but he's great. He's great at roasting.

[Bobby Kelly]

But he also killed the year before, too. He came out of the crowd and murdered.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No, I'm saying getting it. Like, he doesn't. Not just Tony deserves to do it. I understand an argument that Go roasts are supposed to be people who know. And I'd argue, yeah, Tony probably doesn't know Kevin at all. At all. They probably met at this thing, if I had to.

[Bobby Kelly]

That falls on little Kev, by the way. Of course, Little Kev is the one picking, saying yes or no to these people. So that falls on little Kev. Who could have said, I want this guy instead?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yes.

[Bobby Kelly]

He was like, I want to have the best roast possible, so I want the best roasters. Vicious, vicious, mean. And I. And then I want the Rock. I want my guy from Plastic Cup Boys. I want Big J. I don't give a fuck. Big J's there because he's one of my friends.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He said to me, too, when I saw him at the Comedy Store, that. That when I first got there, yeah. He's like, you bringing it, man. Like, you're gonna. You gotta go hard, man. And he was like. He was hyping that up. And I'm like, yeah, sure. And then it was. It was funny at the grand scheme when I did the roast, I was like, I actually didn't go that hard. Like, in this. You know, things like, say, they were, like, scrutinized. Like, I thought I was that. I guess I wasn't really that hard.

[Bobby Kelly]

You did a perfect roast. You did. Look at. If we were going to break it down. You did the roast the way I like the roast, where it isn't as. I like a couple things that are vicious. But I like what you did. It's. It's. It. I didn't have to. I didn't have to feel any way about it. All I did was laugh. There's some of the jokes. You're like, oh, well, all right. You know what I mean?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Which was funny. But I'm saying they're funny jokes.

[Bobby Kelly]

I like that row. I like that style. What's that?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You never brought up weapons.

[Bobby Kelly]

Oh, my God.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Kathy Griffin and weapons.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah. Dude. What's up with her, dude?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Didn't mean to. Well, I'll tell you what's up with her. At 218, she makes sure that all of your children go running out of your house with their arms all flapped out to the side then. I'll be honest with you, I only watched it once because I'm sick of trying to buy the hype of these horror movies that everyone says it's maybe one of the greatest movies of all time. It's good. Yeah, it's a good movie. I don't have to rewatch Weapons six times to get every nuance of it. I got it right. It's good.

[Bobby Kelly]

I've never seen it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It's good.

[Bobby Kelly]

It's not great. It's not the greatest movie of all time.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No, but it's really good. And that makes me. I'll see that guy.

[Bobby Kelly]

Didn't Nicholas Cage play something like that, too? Nicholas played. Played a serial killer that looked exactly like that.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No. You wearing long legs.

[Bobby Kelly]

Didn't he look like that?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, sure. No, but, yes.

[Bobby Kelly]

Okay.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He looked freaky and weird. Again, this is the long legs. Gotta give credit when. You gotta give credit when credit is due. We were. It was a couple years ago. We were walking out. Whenever this came out, we were walking out of a concert and. Josh, was it Rob Zombie concert or something? I think it was Rob.

[Bobby Kelly]

Rob.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Somebody goes. He goes, man. He goes, everybody in this audience looks like long legs. And I was like, he's not wrong. Everyone looks like long legs. When you go to see a band that's been around for 30 years, the audience, a metal band, the audience is going to look a lot like long legs. It's all long legs. But, yeah. And weapons is. Yeah, it's a same Company, but different.

[Bobby Kelly]

You got Chelsea Peretti. Chelsea Handler. Yes, this is. I just found. Where is Chelsea Peretti, by the way?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Married to Jordan Peele.

[Bobby Kelly]

Oh, God, if I married him, I'd be out of the business, too.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Why wouldn't you?

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, hopefully just chilling fat.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I would be a lot of Internet fodder you can watch about. You guys get into that rabbit hole ever about, like, why Key and Peel aren't, like, really even, like, linked anymore and stuff. And it's the wives. All stuff with the wives and they. And one of the things. It's funny. I don't know if they even acknowledge Chelsea so much as, like, a comedian or something. She was. But, like, they're like, yeah, his wife's like, a problem. They talk about her being a real. Like, she's one of those, like, you'll deal with me before you deal with him, maybe. But again, it's just other people accusing her of that. Who knows? But they're like, that's fun. Little rabbit hole.

[Bobby Kelly]

Her and Norton dated for a minute.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Fucking. Well, it's not insane. It's more crazy to me that she's married to a famous director. Fucking Norton. No, it doesn't surprise what's worse. Living on top of. Living on top of Hollywood Hill with. With one of the biggest directors, producers in entertainment right now. Yeah, I didn't see that coming. I want.

[Bobby Kelly]

I want women to get more opportunities in Hollywood so that maybe I could one of them, and they want to marry me so I could live in a. In a nice house and just call it quits.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, she got a new program coming out.

[Bobby Kelly]

She's funny.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Chelsea.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

All right, Bobby. She's all right. That was smarmy.

[Bobby Kelly]

No, she's funny.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't know her stand up at all. Honestly. Honestly, my passing of time with her. She was Jessica Delfino's friend who was Metzger's girlfriend when we first moved to New York. Her and Chelsea became friends. So she was around a little bit with Jessica. And then I heard she was Norton's girlfriend for a minute. And then next thing I know, I didn't see her at all ever. And then next thing I knew, she was on Brooklyn911 while she was on a TV show. And, like, I was like, oh, I

[Bobby Kelly]

think you were both in the Louis pilot. I think she's. I think that's an episode.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yes. She's in Louis. She was in Lou. Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, he shot that. An eight millimeter.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. She was definitely in Louis. So, yeah, we Came. But I'm saying. My point was. But by the time she did Louie, she had. Something else had already happened that she was. I think it was Brooklyn 91 1, maybe.

[Bobby Kelly]

No, bro, I was. I actually from the pilot called. The. What the was it called Bronx Warrants? Me, Godfrey and two other actors. And it was very similar to Brooklyn 911 type thing for the same. I think it was Fox.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

And she got that. That was after that. That was after Louis. And then they. That they actually picked that up instead of us, which sucks.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Also. Maybe I was. Yeah, maybe the thing was wrong. But either way, my point was, like, I never really saw her. We weren't like, ever in the clubs grinding out together.

[Bobby Kelly]

I saw her, I would hang out with Norton and she'd be on the show. She was. She was funny. Yeah, she was very alternative type.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

She got something because, I mean, she got a career. I mean, she jumped. She was like one of the working club comics.

[Bobby Kelly]

When I got here. Yes.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I think we just missed each other. It's not. But. Yeah, but she's.

[Bobby Kelly]

She's in la.

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

Like.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, she went to. She went to the Virus Fest with Norton. She was hanging out with us.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, she was. She was cool with all that.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, that's probably what it was. She's probably in la.

[Bobby Kelly]

I love that nose. I love that nose. I love a big nose on a girl beak. I love. I love a chick that will hit you with her nose. I do.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't know why cut a slice into your fupa with her nose when she's blowing you.

[Bobby Kelly]

I love a big fat.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Sorry, Jordan Pugh. I don't mean to say that about you.

[Bobby Kelly]

All right, let's watch this Chelsea thing. I found them making fun of Cheryl Underwood's, like, dead husband who committed suicide.

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

Like, you know, she's fine.

[Bobby Kelly]

The guy.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, pause it now. You see, it bums me out. All I did was jokes, better skin color. And Dion Cole was so nice to me and said he wanted me to do his podcast that we're leaving. So it's like, that makes me feel. When I read, I go, damn. Deal. It's like. Or his name, Dion Cole. Like, really? The. Cheryl Underwood is so black.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, but you should do his podcast and be like, bro.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, I would. He's just arguing that these guys are

[Bobby Kelly]

just going along with, like, when Josh had Kathy Griffin on. He's just sitting there letting her go on about it, and he doesn't believe anything she's saying.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I just. It's almost at the point of like, the argument about her skin color. Like, yeah, you talk about the actual shade. Like, if Michael Rapaport was on a roast with me, my jokes would be about, like, how ghostly white his skin is for what? Like, you know, a rap, hip hop adjacent guy. Do you know what I'm saying? It's like I'd be pointing out his skin tone. Cheryl Underwood is an extraordinarily dark skinned black woman. I don't know why that's an insult or everything like that. It's just like a fact to point out to, like, make jokes about. And obviously with embellishing how black she is to make the joke. The Roadrunner wouldn't run through her if she was standing against a brick wall. Do I have to say that to the world? Do you guys know that she's actually not that black as a painted tunnel on a wall? It's Just A Funny Thing is my favorite kind of comedy that bums me. I hear me going, goes. Her skin color goes. I don't. She's a. She's a long time veteran.

[Bobby Kelly]

I don't.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I've never met her. But you understand that nothing else.

[Bobby Kelly]

We have. Everybody has to do these fucking podcasts now. Back in the day, we just did comedy and you live with it. And then we talked about. And no, now that everybody has a podcast, he's got her on, which is a big get for him. And then he's got to kind of go along with that shit. He doesn't believe that. If you talk to him, he'd be like, nah, dude, that was a funny joke. That was funny. He would he. When you said that joke, I bet if you cut to him and her, they were both laughing 100%. But after the fact, they got to pick a side to go down. They got to pick the side.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Weird.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, it's weird because I said the bummer of it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I said that. Did I say that on this show yesterday when I was like. Somebody asked me about the feelings during, you know, backstage and stuff. And when you were up there, the feelings of. Did you feel people getting angry or upset at each other or watching this? And I was like, no, it's the opposite. It was that feeling, like when we went up there, it's like, hey, we're all the players in this show. It's like a cast of like a play almost. It goes, all right, we want it all to go good. I wasn't like, when somebody was having a rough Draymond Green when they were like turning on him. I wasn't like, this is great. I was like, ah, damn, dude. I was hoping he did good. Then I'd be like, if he did good and he's not even a comic, I'll go. I'll go up behind him and I'll fucking slay it. Because he's did good. He's.

[Bobby Kelly]

Were you laughing at Chelsea Handler's jokes?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't. That she did go before me. And I'm telling you, those first. Even Naim I felt. Because Naim I felt. I've heard his stuff back. Really funny stuff. That's when I was like. Those two were like the first two. And I was just. My brain was just like, maybe someone will call in a bomb threat and this whole thing can stop. Maybe I could just get out of here and this whole thing can stop and go, wait, is it gonna be weird if I leave to smoke? All those things were going through my mind that had nothing to do with.

[Bobby Kelly]

And then after you killed, you just crossed your legs and looked at the rock like a peasant.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

But Chelsea, really Chelsea, I saw her at that party and everything, and she was like, he again. Like, maybe she came in and was like, again, I don't even think on this. Maybe she is, but I don't know if she's even coming at me at all, particularly. She keeps saying Shane and Tony.

[Bobby Kelly]

She doesn't like Tony Henchlow. That's it for this. It's a weird thing. She says I had some of Shane's ex girlfriends dming me about him, which is like a weird thing to say.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Why'd you say that?

[Bobby Kelly]

She says it. It's back a little bit. Yeah, I saw that. Please, let me get to it. Hang on.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

If you wouldn't mind that.

[Bobby Kelly]

Which is shitty, by the way. That's real.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

What is happening here?

[Bobby Kelly]

Because. Because what? All right, you have two choices. You can be funny and joke around and have a good time, make people laugh, or you can be serious and bring up, like, viral horseshit that people can be. Oh, my God. It's all. It's all clout chasing. Can you sit on a couch and be funny with the uncle about the roast, or are you going to sit there and pontificate and have some type of philosophy conversation?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Philosophy. Yeah, I like that better.

[Bobby Kelly]

I know you do.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Philosophy, science.

[Bobby Kelly]

That's why I don't come over your house as much, because that's all you like to do in the philosophize. Philosophize?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, you're damn right.

[Bobby Kelly]

Everything.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Listen to that deal. Huli, you catch. You catch me on Ring camera. You could probably find a couple of things of me talking to Bobby with my hand on my temple. Bobby, let me tell you about how the world works out there. Now, young brother, let me talk to you for a second. Weird.

[Bobby Kelly]

But it's funny because this stuff is so dramatic and so crazy for a. For a week and a half and then it's never heard of again. No one ever even thinks about this.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, this is gonna be a blip. None of it's anything for sure.

[Bobby Kelly]

They consume this shit, they get all jolted up, and then it's. They're on to something else. Something else is gonna happen next week and it's just gonna be that I've gotten very good.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And I mean, it's so genuine. When I don't look. I have. I don't look at the comments on Bonfire stuff anymore. My own videos that get put out. I don't look at the comments, anything. It's just the fact that to me, it's like a comic making a video. And again, no funny in at all. Just like, not even a. If it was a political commentator. If Nick Fuentes or some lunatic like that came out and was like, I have a problem or something with Jason. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, that falls on that Said the guy who got. The guy who tried to get. Or did everything he could to get Shane fired from snl. Put something up already about that. I think calls for my hanging, which is pretty ironic. I think. So. Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

It's a big tree.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I hope it's got a thick trunk.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, that's gonna be a fucking two out of your oak.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Those people came up. Those people don't. It doesn't even shake me for two. I can go to bed easy on that. It said a comedian who I don't know who I would just have, like, complete professional respect for it just decided it goes to make my name like. Now this guy. You guys should not like him because he's a fucking not. It's like. That's a weird. Again, if it was anything that was funny, even with the word Nazi, have at it, man. But it's like just going like, he is a Nazi. Yeah, but it's not a joke.

[Bobby Kelly]

This is the problem. Social media is the problem because you're supposed to watch this and then be in your living room and tell your wife whether you liked it or not. And that. And that's it. That's as far as it should go. Unless you're a letter writer. You know what I mean? That's going to go nowhere. And now with social media, it's just instant fame for nobodies that can say something up or have a. And get people riled up. Social media, shouldn't I. I. I live for the day that I don't have to use it. That I don't have to even, like, have it. Like, who just. Joe just deleted all his social media.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Right, Joe.

[Bobby Kelly]

Joe list.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He did.

[Bobby Kelly]

Like, he doesn't go to it or he doesn't. He just has a guy fully run. He doesn't touch it at all. It's off his phone. So someone else has his stuff, puts his stuff up, and he doesn't go to it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't hate that at all.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, I think, Lou.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, I sort of do that.

[Bobby Kelly]

What's that?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I thought you like being an influence.

[Bobby Kelly]

Well, that's why Jay's gonna hate my new serious tech show. Oh, I'm bringing it back.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It's called serious tech.

[Bobby Kelly]

Well, no, I. Look, I don't mind.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Bobby. Bobby Kelly is serious about tech. But it's spelled S I R I U. I don't.

[Bobby Kelly]

I'm very different than Jay. I like watching. I don't mind when a guy gets emotional or says something serious. I don't. I don't like just comic. When a comic says something, you know, like, I liked when. When Theo Vaughn was like, I'm getting all up. I. I don't know. I kind of like that he opened up about. I. I don't mind that stuff. I get it. I get the style of stuff he likes is fine. I like watching all kinds of different things on it. You know, I don't mind somebody who's. I watch dudes that work out because I like to work out. I get it. You know what I mean? But I'm not going to watch Lewis just shadow box. I get that that's a little weird. You know what I mean?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You tried, though. God bless you. You tried.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, but I think every social media differently. I just don't think if you're gonna put something out there. I can't put something out there and worry about if Jay's gonna make fun of me in a green room.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Of course, I got.

[Bobby Kelly]

I. I know he. He could. He could not. But I can't adjust my thing to him or anybody else. If you're gonna do something, do it and put it out there and that's it. Forget about it and forget about it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Forget about it.

[Bobby Kelly]

Who gives a.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Let's put a little Chelsea back on. I want to hear this stuff, it's crazy. Why is she doing this?

[Bobby Kelly]

This is what she does, Jay.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I thought maybe I had her all wrong.

[Bobby Kelly]

I bet she likes you, dude.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Maybe. But it's just. Even if, though, it's like, I just think again, it doesn't make me. I don't think they hate her because she says this stuff. It's more of an idea. It's like, man, do you really like. I don't know. I mean, listen, you can. Not like Shane and not like Tony. That's. There's plenty of. Plenty of people in the world who feel that way. It's the idea. It's like. Because you're saying it's. I don't like them because they're racist or whatever.

[Bobby Kelly]

Come on. Well, because, you know, Shane and Tony. She has no idea who they are. I know Shane. I know people. Look at. I have. I've never had a group of people that I just. That was my group of. That's even in high school, I hung out with the nerds. I hung out with the jocks. I hung out with the. You know, the punks. I hung out with the project rats. I never had a group of people. That was my group that I fell into. And I. In comedy, the same thing. I hung out. Patrice was one of my best friends. I hung with Gary Gulman. They didn't get along. I hung. I hang out with you. I hang out with Lewis. I hang out with Tom Papa. You know, I have. Colin is one of my best friends. I talk to him every day.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

None of us get along with each other.

[Bobby Kelly]

Well. It's. It's like, you know, I love Yamanika. I love her, but she doesn't like other friends of mine. But it's. I don't care. You don't have to like all my friends to be my friend.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No, of course not.

[Bobby Kelly]

But, you know, I'm not gonna let you. I'm not gonna let you trash them.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yamanika was my solace at that party.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

She's. Her smoking in the corner. I go, perfection.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Her and Dane, I went over. I made my Mazda Miata line, and then we just sat there for 45.

[Bobby Kelly]

Tell Yamanika to tell Chelsea you're not a Nazi.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No, I know one. She's not calling me anything at all. But even, like, the idea of, like, the fact that she's just going negative about it when it's like, well, what was her negative experience? Nobody went, like, particularly, like, scorched earth on her.

[Bobby Kelly]

Well, what is she gonna talk about?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

She kept Saying all week that she was going. Every time I saw her, she'd go. It's like, oh, I'm getting all ready for everybody to call me whore and say what a whore I am and stuff like that. And I was like, oh. Oh, thank God. Yeah, thank God.

[Bobby Kelly]

What is she going to say on this podcast after the roast? She has to have a. Take these people literally.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I think it's at the best. So it shows that we. We were not a team up there working towards one thing. Some people took away from this. Their. Their own, like, took away their own full agenda.

[Bobby Kelly]

Jay's little gay dream of being part of a team.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I just thought. I thought the people that were up there. One singular sensation.

[Bobby Kelly]

Guys, Chelsea, get up here.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Come on. Usher's about to swirl it.

[Bobby Kelly]

Tony, get over here, sit your ass

[Big Jay Oakerson]

next to Cheryl Underwood and tell some black jokes. Our guest friend of the show returning, everybody. She has a new naughty America Memorial Day scene with a very special script because it was written for her as a very patriotic Miss America in these sometimes unpatriotic times. It is the lovely and vivacious. You like that? Jacob Rochelle Ryan here in the house.

[Bobby Kelly]

That was very clever. Very clever.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It was clever.

[Bobby Kelly]

It was clever.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Chelsea Handler would have liked that.

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

Yeah, she would just love me.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, she. She might love you.

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

No, she definitely won't.

[Bobby Kelly]

She's Miss America.

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

I am Miss America.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

By the way, you crushed Kevin Hart roast.

[Bobby Kelly]

You were little Nazi a little bit.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No, that's what our first half of our show today was talking about. That the. The accusations of Nazi and racism from a roast when everybody was working together. We all. Could you imagine if I was raised and then just like never stopped staring at Cheryl Underwood the whole time. You could see stabbing daggers with his eyes.

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

The funny thing is, is that you guys have conversations before that roast of, like, topics I'm sure that you can't touch on.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Sure. Yeah.

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

Like just like the Tom Brady roast. He said, like his kids were off limits and I think somebody maybe went there or.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No, it wasn't the kids. It was Jeff Ross. I think it was said not to talk about Bob Kraft's.

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

Oh, yes.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Getting the hookers.

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

Y. That's right.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And he made a joke. And then Tom Brady walks up with live thing.

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

He goes, yes.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He goes, what? Yes.

[Bobby Kelly]

Wasn't hookers massage parlor fingers in the bum?

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

Well, same thing.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No, they were paid for sex work. No, no, they were paid for. For off camera sex work.

[Bobby Kelly]

You went in for a regular massage and you can't help where it goes.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You can't help it.

[Bobby Kelly]

No, you can't. She was like, you lie. I don't know. I guess. I don't know. If this is what you do.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I understand. It's her fault because she couldn't speak English enough to understand his confusion by the whole thing.

[Bobby Kelly]

You got to act confused when it happens.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

They deserve it.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

All women are not victims. I don't even know what the point was about that. When we started, I was gonna be. Where are we going with this? I guess all women deserve it.

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

You were so great, though. I was literally filming it, sending it to Lainey. I'm like, look at our boy go.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, hell yeah.

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

Is there anything you can tell us?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Like, about what? What would you want? Like, behind the scenes?

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

Yeah. I'm in love with Tony Hinchcliffe, by the way. Shout out Toni. I kind of want to.

[Bobby Kelly]

She would definitely not like her.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, Chelsea. Henry's probably not like her.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, Chelsea not going to let.

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

I love Tony.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He's hot.

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

I want to bang him.

[Bobby Kelly]

Do you really?

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

Yeah. He looks a little short, though.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Sorry.

[Bobby Kelly]

Jacob, Jacob, hang on one second. Now let's settle down with the short. Jacob, relax.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You too, bro.

[Bobby Kelly]

Relax. Listen, I'll take it as a knock. I'm not with you.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He is short. But what is short to you?

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

Anything under six foot. No, I'm just kidding.

[Bobby Kelly]

No, that's real.

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

I like. I like the 6 foot and above club. I'm a tall, small guy fetish.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That's okay, though. But before you hurry, Bobby, I think we have a tape measure here, don't we? Why don't we measure the cruise?

[Bobby Kelly]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Don't you want to find us getting laid to the show?

[Bobby Kelly]

I don't have my high heel sneakers today.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Dude. We only have the room for a half hour after the show. We have to figure out who's gonna be allowed to come or not.

[Bobby Kelly]

It's you.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

DJ Lou is over six foot.

[Bobby Kelly]

Are you six? Sure am. What are you six? One with shoes. Oh, I'm six feet with my new sneakers. My. My high heel sneakers.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Now, would you mind? Was there any way that we can convince you to have sex with Jacob and Bobby and Black Lou standing on each other's shoulders under a trench coat.

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

Oh, my.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And I know it's three penises coming at you, but just handle the one in the middle. Yeah, there we go.

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

That's a whole lot coming at me.

[Bobby Kelly]

Don't worry. We'll put Lou in the middle.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it makes its way out of the trench coat.

[Bobby Kelly]

You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Everybody else is gonna be stuck inside the trench coat. Good God. What's the Memorial Day scene? It's very special scene.

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

Yeah. So Naughty America is now allowing fans to write and direct their own types of scripts, which I think is great. Now with the whole onlyfans burst.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, they get to come in and watch the scene get filmed.

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

No, no, no, no. Not like that. Even though that kind of would be a little cool. But now they, you know, get to write it up, direct it, cast whoever they want, you know, put in all the details and, you know, as long as it works for the talent and the setup and yeah, I got to do a very patriot. Like,

[Bobby Kelly]

I'm a big. I like the setup, I like the story. I like the build up.

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

Oh, really? A lot of guys hate that.

[Bobby Kelly]

I love it. I want. I want.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Well, people that were born guys.

[Bobby Kelly]

I. Well, I'm from back in the day. I'm 55, so, you know, I came up on Lady Chatterley and it was a buildup and then I. Even the porn had. Had. You know, they tried to make a movie. It was like they were trying to

[Big Jay Oakerson]

have, you know, Boogie Nights. The excitement of, like, we're using film.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No one cares. Nobody just.

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

You guys are always like, I scroll through all that. I'm like, well, it's kind of fun. We put a lot of effort into it. Like the setup and everything.

[Bobby Kelly]

I love that. The decoration, the dialogue back and forth. I hate when you think anybody watches.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You think everybody watches the pirate. The pirates movies were the first, like, porn movies that had like the thing. Do you think anybody goes back to them and they go, it's like, I'm gonna watch. It goes. I actually forget what the ending was.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Where they go. It's like, oh, that was dead the whole time. Okay. I usually cut this off after the third or fourth.

[Bobby Kelly]

If I see. If I see full. I like to. If I. If I'm looking for a certain genre, I'll always put full. Cuz I want to watch the whole thing.

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

Oh, wow.

[Bobby Kelly]

I want to. I want to go. And the door knocks and the babysitter comes in. They have a little conversation. And then.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Do you have a towel warmer for the thing you clean your jizz up with? Like a nail salon? You pull it out like a wet towel out of a thing by your bed.

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

Love it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Good God.

[Bobby Kelly]

What is the. What is this movie that you're doing? What is this storyline?

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

Oh, well, should I give it away?

[Bobby Kelly]

My friend's hot mom, give us a trailer.

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

Oh, okay. My friend's hot mom. I'm banging my son's best friend. He came over. Yes.

[Bobby Kelly]

This is my genre.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

This isn't a trailer, though. The trailer's supposed to be like, you've been a very bad boy. Then it would cut to you, goes, what are you doing? That's my son you're having sex with. You're supposed to be his stepmother.

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

Yep. And then, happy Memorial Day. That was the best hot dog I ever had.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And then it'll say, naughty America. There you go. There's your trailer. Bobby, can I.

[Bobby Kelly]

Is there any point where you go, you can't. You promise me you won't tell? Oh, of course. Oh, God, I love it when they don't do that in that genre. I'm like, come on, this isn't real.

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

Yeah, this isn't real.

[Bobby Kelly]

I need a. This isn't candid.

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

Don't tell me this isn't candid.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Super professional video of people having sex.

[Bobby Kelly]

It's gotta be at the right point where it's like, it started. It goes. And then you gotta kinda look up. You're not gonna tell dad, are you? He goes, no. I go, okay. Oh, God.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Do you pick who you work with in the scene?

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

Always at this point.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Always.

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

Yeah, it's good.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Do you come to the people making the scene like, I wanna do a scene with this person or do they. How does it work?

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

I usually like to pick my male co stars because I wanna give the f good scene and someone I just kind of get along with vibe with someone that really looks the part. We have a very shortage of male performers in this industry. Good ones, I will say.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

So, Jacob, you're up to.

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

Yeah, Better shortage little dicks. I feel that, like, a lot of men think they can do the job, and then when they get thrown into it, it's like, if you fail your first scene, it's gonna take a lot for a director or, you know, a team or someone to, like, hire you again because they're like, eh, he failed.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh. What I was going to say before about maybe it's not a great idea to have, like, you can win directing a scene. Like, anyone can win. Because I think there's also. If you're that much of a fan of porn and as a performer yourself, and Laney, I'm sure you've been on plenty of sets before too. Like, you kind of don't want to have the curtain pulled, like, because, you

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

know, you don't want to see how the sausage Is made.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Well, just not even for the. Not that the sex isn't. Like, we talked about this before in Amsterdam when I went to that live sex show. We were all sitting there like, all right, here we go. Live sex show start. And then they just started having sex on stage. And all of us were just sitting there like, should we go? I don't know. If they were not supposed to be sitting here. There's something about. And then at least they're putting on a show. If you're doing a scene, you're putting on a show. And then it can be like, stop. Because you're like, fuck. Fucking my God damn it, I need a banana. I'm cramping up again. Like, no, it's fucking cramping up again. Because it's cramping up. So I can't do that. And some guy sitting there waiting to jerk off to this and he's kind of like, oh, oh. She seems like she's in a bad mood and she still all right. Oh, this guy doesn't seem to be gonna be getting along with so and so well.

[Bobby Kelly]

That's why I like when my thing is when they kiss in a porn.

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

Cuz to me this. That means there's some type of connection between those two people. You know, when they, when they make out a little bit.

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

Yeah. I think it's a little weird though, as a MILF to be making out with your stepson.

[Bobby Kelly]

Well, you're sucking his dick. I mean different.

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

Like fully making out out. I'm kind of like.

[Bobby Kelly]

Well, I actually saw one where at the end, he. The guy, the son came in her. She's like, what, what are you doing? I was like, don't do that.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Well, don't do that.

[Bobby Kelly]

I mean, I guess it goes kissing and then blow her. You're right.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

If you're gonna. Your stepmother pull out. I should be on a card. She'll be on some sort of a card in your wallet. You're gonna. Your step, step parent.

[Bobby Kelly]

I like the ones where they. They have to share a hotel room where they get stuck somewhere.

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

Oh, I haven't done one of those yet.

[Bobby Kelly]

Oh, that's a good one. They. They were traveling the. You know, and they get in the hotel, there's only. We only have one bed, we're gonna have to share it. But the mom has to put on her little negligee. And then in the middle of the night, the sun looks over and half her boobs hanging out.

[Jacob Rochelle Ryan]

You need to write your own script.

[Bobby Kelly]

I'm in. That's what I'm getting at, sweetie.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I like to lay back and let other people make decisions for me. I like that. The Internet has told me that Rochelle sometimes will have sex with her inexplicably black stepson. We love you guys. Enjoy the pre record. We'll catch you Monday. No, Tuesday.

[Bobby Kelly]

Tuesday.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Right here on the bonfire. Crackle, crackle.

[Bobby Kelly]

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[Big Jay Oakerson]

We help people customize and save on

[Bobby Kelly]

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[Big Jay Oakerson]

my outdoor patio setup better be ready to play.

[Bobby Kelly]

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[Big Jay Oakerson]

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[Bobby Kelly]

ready for the season.