
The New Jersey transit strike causes Jay to be late again for the show and he enters while DJ Lou was trying to hook Jacob up with a date. It's up for debate whether Jacob was rejecting the girl or was the rejected. | Bob gives an impassioned speech about healthcare in America. | Bobby asks everyone in the room if they believe in God and everyone has their own relationship with their higher power except for Jay. Bob tries to make Jay pray from the heart and he has trouble, so he quotes lyrics from Nu Metal bands. They research Dante's Inferno which is the nine circles of hell representing different sins and their escalating punishments. For tour dates go to Bigjaycomedy.com & Robertkellylive.com. *To hear the full show to go www.siriusxm.com/bonfire to learn more. FOLLOW THE CREW ON SOCIAL MEDIA: @thebonfiresxm @louisjohnson @christinemevans @bigjayoakerson @robertkellylive @louwitzkee @jjbwolf
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Bobby Kelly
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Jay Oakerson
June 6th.
Bobby Kelly
How many discounts does USAA auto insurance offer? Too many to say here. Multi vehicle discount.
Jacob
Safe driver discount, New vehicle discount.
Bobby Kelly
Storage discount, Legacy.
Jacob
How many discounts will you stack up?
Bobby Kelly
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Jay Oakerson
That made me feel really good. Thank you, guys.
Bobby Kelly
Buddy, what's going on? We. We. I didn't get the text. Apparently Lou tried to set up Jacob with a girl. She saw the picture of Jake and went, no.
Jay Oakerson
Really?
Bobby Kelly
Ye. Not the one that Jacob poo pooed. I gotta see that. Where is it? I didn't get it.
Jay Oakerson
Wait, you poo pooed her then she poo pooed you?
Bobby Kelly
No, different girl.
Luis J. Gomez
Poo poo J. I didn't know about the first one. He didn't bring up.
Bobby Kelly
Are you out of your mind? I'll dump dawn for her.
Jay Oakerson
Let me see.
Bobby Kelly
I will dump dawn right now for her in the middle. Not my girl. Not the guest. Are you?
Jay Oakerson
Yes, one right here.
Bobby Kelly
Jacob.
Jay Oakerson
No. Jake. Are you kid. Are you serious?
Bobby Kelly
Tell her I'm available. Tell them me and Jay are able. Me and both. Me and Jay are both available.
Jay Oakerson
Me?
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, we both.
Jay Oakerson
I'm okay.
Bobby Kelly
Come on, dude. Okay. Come on. Bring her.
Jay Oakerson
Are you really?
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, dude, I like that. I like those big lips.
Jay Oakerson
Really?
Bobby Kelly
I like those little high cheekbones, strong jawline. Yeah, she got nice tatas.
Jay Oakerson
Really? Looks like her eyes are in her temples.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, dude, I like that.
Luis J. Gomez
Always count on Jay.
Bobby Kelly
You know what? See, I mean, we're looking at the same girl, right?
Jay Oakerson
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Very hot.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah. Oh, I'm looking at the guy.
Christine
Is that not Jacob?
Bobby Kelly
That is J. That's Jacob with Captain America Drug Shot in his veins.
Jay Oakerson
Jacob. Jacob, you poo pooed her or she's one of poo pooed you. This one in the picture, they poo pooed each other.
Bobby Kelly
No, this one Jacob said. I don't know.
Luis J. Gomez
What does the other one look like that poo pooed me.
Bobby Kelly
I don't have that one.
Jay Oakerson
I want to see the one who poo pooed Jacob.
Luis J. Gomez
This one I want to see poo poo away I wasn't good enough for.
Bobby Kelly
I like that one. I like that. But you know what? Here's the thing. I haven't had anything in a long time, so if you show me any, I would actually bang Evelyn if she got over that poison sickness. She's in, In Canada.
Jay Oakerson
What if that's what did cure her?
Bobby Kelly
If it was.
Jay Oakerson
Out of.
Bobby Kelly
What if people are starting to catch on to Evelyn? By the way, I've seen some other videos. Yeah, I think we've spread the word.
Jay Oakerson
Picking up steam.
Bobby Kelly
She's picking up some Evelyn steam. They're starting to do little videos with her. But I would, I'd fool around. I'd do a little something something.
Jay Oakerson
Well, something something. Oh, dude. Oh, dude. The muck between her legs.
Bobby Kelly
I'm out. You know what?
Jay Oakerson
I. Thank you.
Bobby Kelly
I can't even joke around with that now.
Jay Oakerson
Thank you.
Bobby Kelly
Took it too far.
Jay Oakerson
Hey, Jacob. Guys, can I ask you a radio question? This is a real radio question. I'm just wondering. This. We all know Bobby is a. Is a very aggressive homophobe who says the F word a lot.
Bobby Kelly
But, but stop, stop, stop.
Jay Oakerson
What?
Bobby Kelly
That is outrageous.
Jay Oakerson
Right? Sure, that's fine. But what I'm saying is I'm not a homopho.
Bobby Kelly
I, I love gay people. I have gay friends.
Jay Oakerson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bobby Kelly
What are you talking about? I live. Some of the closest people in my life are gay.
Jay Oakerson
Bobby, I'm on your side here.
Bobby Kelly
I love gay.
Jay Oakerson
Bobby.
Bobby Kelly
I love gay.
Jay Oakerson
Don't you want to ask you a question?
Bobby Kelly
Did you make a. Don't. What you didn't. Don't get. I don't want that as a side clip. That's a job.
Jay Oakerson
Yeah.
Bobby Kelly
I don't. No, it's not a job.
Jay Oakerson
That's a record. I, That's a record.
Bobby Kelly
I, I, I love gay people. I just From Boston. And that word is like whenever you.
Jay Oakerson
See gay people in one of the.
Bobby Kelly
No, that's not. We've never.
Jay Oakerson
We're on the same. I'm not. You haven't even Let me get to the point I'm trying to make. I'm trying to save you here.
Bobby Kelly
Okay? Save me.
Jay Oakerson
And try to let you be able to do what you want to do.
Bobby Kelly
Okay?
Jay Oakerson
I listen to the XL stations always for music. And if you listen to LL Cool J's Rock the Bells or any of our stations here, when they play 90s hip hop, F word said a lot and they just let it fly. So why is that okay? And Bobby is not allowed to let his incredible. Which clearly weighs on him. It's exploding out of him, his homophobia.
Bobby Kelly
I'm not homophobic. I love gays. I love to be gay.
Jay Oakerson
I got it, Bobby. I got this. I got this for you. Why can't Bobby say the F word if DMX can, is my question.
Bobby Kelly
First of all, I should be grandfathered in because I am from the 80s.
Jay Oakerson
You're from the 80s and 90s.
Luis J. Gomez
That's the word.
Jay Oakerson
What?
Luis J. Gomez
It's recorded songs from a different era, so it's grandfathered in.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, I'm from a different era.
Jay Oakerson
Bobby's from a different era.
Luis J. Gomez
You're live on the air now.
Bobby Kelly
Right. And I love.
Jay Oakerson
I know, but the things he's saying is from the 90s. What about if the things he's saying are from the 90s? Is that okay, then?
Bobby Kelly
I love gay people, I love trans people, and I love everything in between, especially lesbians. Lesbians are my favorite people.
Jay Oakerson
Why?
Bobby Kelly
Because they're fun.
Jay Oakerson
No, they're not.
Bobby Kelly
I've always got along. No, touche, my friend. I've always got along with. Lesbians have been part of my success, okay? In my life, lesbians. There's always been a lesbian woman.
Jay Oakerson
Are you calling Dawn a lesbian?
Bobby Kelly
She's close. She's close at this point of her stage.
Jay Oakerson
Oh, is this the Indigo Girls?
Bobby Kelly
There's been lesbians, Cindy.
Jay Oakerson
Okay?
Bobby Kelly
When I worked with the mentally retarded and I lived with them, she got me the job and she helped me lose weight for the last night at Eddie's.
Jay Oakerson
By the way, your one man show should be called Dykes and Retards.
Bobby Kelly
No, that's. That's. I can't say that either way. You can't.
Jay Oakerson
It's not. You're from the 90s.
Bobby Kelly
I know. I am from the 90s, but I can't say that now.
Jay Oakerson
There was no homophobia or racism in the 90s. Do you guys even listen to me when I talk?
Bobby Kelly
Can I say something?
Jay Oakerson
Yes.
Bobby Kelly
I was thinking about this and Don brought it to my attention. And another friend of mine, Big Shoulders Joe, who was a, you know, staunch Republican, big fan of the show.
Jay Oakerson
Your daddy?
Bobby Kelly
No, but he was Like Jay's right. Italian guy. I was listening. Jay's right. There was less racism in the 90s. Yeah, there was. We, we got along better. There was no problems between us in the 90s.
Jay Oakerson
See, that's an over stretch too. There were problems in the 90s. There's probably still a lot of very unfair police to black people. I'm sure.
Bobby Kelly
He said there was no problems between the whites and then they used their N word. So I think there's problems now.
Jay Oakerson
Okay. Yeah, well, now. Yeah, well, I just think now it's like there's money to be made in making sure. It's like everyone's kind of at odds.
Bobby Kelly
Ooh, political. J what are you and Dave starting a show together?
Jay Oakerson
No, I still don't know anything Dave's stuff at all. I don't understand any of Dave's things. Yeah, I was listening to him on Tucker Carlson. I tell him I keep having an idea I want to do so bad where I'm like, Because again, I have no emotional attachment to politics stuff. I will not get heated in a political debate at all.
Bobby Kelly
I do, I have a lot of thoughts.
Jay Oakerson
Yeah?
Bobby Kelly
Yeah. You want to hear something?
Jay Oakerson
Sure.
Bobby Kelly
Throw something. Ask me any question.
Jay Oakerson
Health care.
Bobby Kelly
Health care, man. Let me tell you something. We should deserve our health care and we all should get health care. But. But you know what? If you want premium healthcare, you work for it. It's a merit based.
Jay Oakerson
But you can't. Yeah, you can't get good insurance if you work for it.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, you work for it. I work for it. I got it.
Jay Oakerson
Yeah, but you can't get good insurance just by working for it.
Bobby Kelly
Listen, man, I don't want to wait in line.
Jay Oakerson
Right, Gotcha.
Bobby Kelly
I think people, seriously, you want to hear the serious thought on that? I think people who don't make enough money a year should get free health care. They should get free everything. If you don't make this certain amount of money a year, you should get free and it should be picked up by the rest of us who make 250,000 or more a year. We should pick up the slack, make.
Jay Oakerson
It more, 20, $50,000 a year.
Bobby Kelly
And we should let those people who don't make enough money, they should be taking care of everything should be taken doctors, they need to make money because you want the best doctor, the best brain surgeon, the best. And there's the only way you become the best is by being competitive and having a merit based system. Right. When you start having everybody getting paid shit money or whatever, the same money, nobody's Gonna strive to be better than the other guy. And we're never gonna evolve medicine, you know, so you should have that. You should make a lot of money if you're a doctor, but you should also do stuff for free. You should have to do free things for people that need it. So I think that the people that make the money should pay and the people that don't should get it for nothing. You can have best. I call it Medicaid. Best of both worlds.
Jay Oakerson
It's a mouthful.
Bobby Kelly
Well, you gotta go B. Best of B O M B W. B O, B W M B O.
Jay Oakerson
B W. Can we get it to be a K? Maybe? So we could be like B O B K, like Bobby K. Yeah, sure. Best of both kinds.
Bobby Kelly
Best of both kinds. That's it.
Jay Oakerson
Best of both kinds.
Bobby Kelly
I like working, shopping, things with you. Dude, we should run for president.
Jay Oakerson
Bob K. Bob K. Best of both kinds. There you go. I just know I can't get good insurance. I'm not allowed to.
Bobby Kelly
I told you how to do it, you don't listen. You've.
Jay Oakerson
No one's told me anything.
Luis J. Gomez
I told you how come you can't get good insurance?
Bobby Kelly
He can't get insurance.
Jay Oakerson
You're not allowed to.
Bobby Kelly
That's not true. You don't listen. I said you go through your Skanks podcast, you can go through sag, right?
Jay Oakerson
Give them money, the issue you're having, your podcast or yours individually solely. I can't do that because Gas Digital would have to pay into insurance company.
Bobby Kelly
So what? Why won't they pay into it for you and Dave and Louis?
Jay Oakerson
Well, it's Lucy Gomez and Ralph Sutton. I don't think they're big time owners of a company, do you know what I mean? Where they're doling out insurance for people.
Bobby Kelly
Well, you could just. You put money into the thing, they.
Jay Oakerson
Should pay into it.
Bobby Kelly
They should pay Skank's money into that and you'll. I think it's. You have to make a certain amount of money a year and you're all set.
Jay Oakerson
It's not that much you'd think, right? Anyway, can't get good health care. But no, I. Well, anyway, my idea with Dave is because in listening to him the thing, I was surprised, like how much Dave is. Like I was saying to him last night, it's like you've lived a whole life since he's gone off. He got married, he's got two kids now. He's like a big dog in that political pundit world.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah.
Jay Oakerson
Especially after the Rogan thing. It like, fired him up. But it is funny to hear his things. And it's like, I'm like, oh, you're not. This anymore, like, is that little we talk about politics is like. He was very. He's very religious.
Bobby Kelly
Oh, we talked about this on Monday.
Jay Oakerson
Yeah, yeah. Pro life.
Bobby Kelly
I was thinking about this on the way home. Like, how long. If he gets. If he gets really into religion, Right. How long is he gonna be able to do the core values of the legion of skanks?
Jay Oakerson
Really? Louis just does the core values, if we're being honest.
Bobby Kelly
But how is that gonna. Seriously, how is that gonna. Is he gonna have to go to, like, confession every once a week to. For a show? You know, like. Because once people start believing in.
Jay Oakerson
He said he prays, which is so gay.
Bobby Kelly
I pray.
Jay Oakerson
Right.
Bobby Kelly
Why is that gay?
Jay Oakerson
Huh?
Bobby Kelly
Why is praying gay?
Jay Oakerson
No.
Bobby Kelly
Why?
Jay Oakerson
It's not.
Bobby Kelly
Dude, I'm talking to a guy who has Botox in his armpits. Fingernail polish.
Jay Oakerson
Yes.
Bobby Kelly
Gets his eyelashes done, dyes his hair red.
Jay Oakerson
Eyelashes done.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, you do.
Jay Oakerson
Don't say that.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, you do.
Jay Oakerson
It's not true.
Bobby Kelly
You get them fixed.
Jay Oakerson
No.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, you do. You get them framed up.
Jay Oakerson
Eyebrows.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, eyebrows, whatever. Your eyelashes are gorgeous. You're right. I'm sorry. It's the only natural thing on your face.
Jay Oakerson
Thank you.
Bobby Kelly
Right.
Jay Oakerson
And that's not true.
Bobby Kelly
And as Trump says, you use the fato needle.
Jay Oakerson
I did use the fatso needle.
Luis J. Gomez
And when you list it all at once.
Bobby Kelly
I mean, dude, you're basically fudgeing Joan Rivers of comedy right now.
Jay Oakerson
Thank you.
Bobby Kelly
I'm just saying. And then you're so behave. Yes. And. But there's a guy who prays, which is just a moral compass that somebody's getting in a day saying, hey, yes.
Jay Oakerson
You'Re praying to your God.
Bobby Kelly
What's wrong with that?
Jay Oakerson
Nothing.
Bobby Kelly
It's a moral compass. Anybody who prays to a God is, whether it be the universe, Jesus.
Jay Oakerson
So if you weren't praying to God, you would go out and rape and murder?
Bobby Kelly
No. You're using your brain to think of serene serenity things or good things, instead of allowing your brain to think of wants, needs, sex.
Jay Oakerson
I think it's lovely.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, it's a. It's a positive thing for somebody to pray. Now, your problem is this. Let me just see. That he's praying to an imaginary person that doesn't exist.
Jay Oakerson
Sure.
Bobby Kelly
Is that what your problem is with it?
Jay Oakerson
Yeah.
Bobby Kelly
Okay, I get it. I understand. I mean, look, you can't. You can't fight it because it is, you know, Organized religion is.
Jay Oakerson
That's the point about the. Why I think it'd be funny to talk to Dave about this stuff on something is because like I'm fine either way. Dave could believe in God. I'm not. I'm never mad at anybody who believes in anything.
Bobby Kelly
Can I, can I suggest to solve.
Jay Oakerson
I think it's funny that you knees and pray to God.
Bobby Kelly
Can I say, can I solve two things at once? You have a new podcast that's yours called Finding my God through Dave Smith that you can take all that money.
Jay Oakerson
And put it in the sag action.
Bobby Kelly
And then you get insurance. Now you get insurance.
Jay Oakerson
What is it called now again?
Bobby Kelly
Finding God.
Jay Oakerson
Finding God through Dave. Finding God through Dave.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah. Starring Jay. Jay.
Jay Oakerson
That's right, Jay Jay.
Bobby Kelly
Antichrist. Okerson.
Jay Oakerson
J. Antichrist overs.
Bobby Kelly
No, man. I don't like me.
Jay Oakerson
I'm not anti religion at all, by the way. Well, you call not religious.
Bobby Kelly
You call people who are pray gay. That's anti.
Jay Oakerson
I think the act of praying is gay.
Bobby Kelly
I'm pretty, pretty sure that's anti.
Jay Oakerson
You're getting on your knees to kiss the holy penis.
Bobby Kelly
But you get. You don't get on. You know why you get on your knees?
Jay Oakerson
Because you're gay. Because you need money for drugs?
Bobby Kelly
No, the other side. Robert Downey Jr. Did less than zero. Well, worst scene ever. Oh, he had come on his mouth.
Jay Oakerson
Was it the worst?
Bobby Kelly
When he had come in his mouth.
Jay Oakerson
Did he have jizz on his lip?
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, it was like jizz. He got caught. Not blow.
Jay Oakerson
Oh, I know. He was chugging when they walked in.
Luis J. Gomez
The less than zero scene.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah.
Luis J. Gomez
Oh God.
Bobby Kelly
It made me. It just made me think of him differently. Even though it's fake and it's an acting.
Jay Oakerson
Who was he blowing exactly?
Luis J. Gomez
What are you doing? Iron Man.
Bobby Kelly
Oh yeah. He was blowing a guy. Some guy.
Luis J. Gomez
They had to stop him.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah.
Jay Oakerson
Less than zero scene.
Luis J. Gomez
Help.
Christine
Help me out. I've never seen this guys blowjob scene.
Bobby Kelly
Less than zero. Yeah. I mean it's so sad.
Jay Oakerson
Is it?
Bobby Kelly
I don't know, dude. It was Robert Downey Jr. Just to see him.
Jay Oakerson
You could tell. Black loose. Mary doesn't know how to spell blowjob. That might be it. Penguin Room.
Bobby Kelly
He was blowing. What's his name?
Jay Oakerson
James Spader.
Bobby Kelly
James.
Jay Oakerson
Was he blowing him? I don't think he was blowing him. I think James Spader was having him.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, I think.
Jay Oakerson
Yeah.
Bobby Kelly
Was he tricking him out?
Jay Oakerson
He's pimping him. I don't know. To get his money back.
Bobby Kelly
I don't know. Was He. James Spade was a piece of. In this. Great. He was so good.
Luis J. Gomez
He always has weird sex in movies. Like, bizarre.
Bobby Kelly
I remember.
Luis J. Gomez
Can't do regular.
Bobby Kelly
And this is. This is Miami, right? Or is this Hollywood?
Jay Oakerson
It was la, I believe.
Bobby Kelly
Was it la? Okay.
Jay Oakerson
Yeah, I think so.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah.
Jay Oakerson
It's not in this one? No.
Bobby Kelly
It's not the scene. No. Does he. Doesn't he go through. He goes through the party. Yeah, he goes through the party and catches him in the other room.
Jay Oakerson
Well, he went all the way to the end of this. And that would be the biggest scene.
Bobby Kelly
Can I. Can you go back to that lady right there? Go back to that lady. Click on right there. She is the richest woman in.
Jay Oakerson
You said. Yeah.
Bobby Kelly
She's worth billions.
Jay Oakerson
I know, which is good because she got UG fast.
Luis J. Gomez
How is she worth billions?
Bobby Kelly
Her. She invested in a company with her husband who is, you know, had money. She started a company called Tesla and. No. And she has. I don't know the name. What the company does. Billions of dollars. She is set forever.
Luis J. Gomez
Good for her.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, Good for her.
Jay Oakerson
Barbecue sauce. She's a barbecue sauce heiress.
Bobby Kelly
So you. But here's the thing with praying, is that when you get on your knees, it gives you the focus where you're actually. You're humbling yourself.
Jay Oakerson
Of course, dude.
Bobby Kelly
In your mouth, Jay. You can't talk about. We're trying to listen. You're getting on your knees.
Jay Oakerson
It doesn't say he found God. It's called finding God. Oh, here it is.
Bobby Kelly
All right, let's go back.
Jay Oakerson
Go back, go back. I missed it. I missed his mouth on his. The way I hoped.
Bobby Kelly
He's. Yeah, he's.
Jay Oakerson
Andrew McCarthy set the scene up. Yeah. He's walking through a party to find his old friend Robert Downey Jr. Yeah.
Bobby Kelly
Going down.
Jay Oakerson
He's a drug act.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah.
Jay Oakerson
He's whacking off a guy.
Bobby Kelly
No, he was just. No, he was blowing.
Jay Oakerson
He was getting ready to.
Bobby Kelly
I think he put it on. He put it on. Yeah.
Jay Oakerson
He didn't have jizz on his lip.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, he does. Go to the next scene.
Jay Oakerson
You wanted him to have jizz on his lip.
Bobby Kelly
Go to the next scene, buddy.
Jay Oakerson
There's no next scene.
Bobby Kelly
There's a next scene when he's fighting with him and he's got.
Jay Oakerson
Come on his lip.
Bobby Kelly
He's got jizz on his lip, man.
Jay Oakerson
Do you wish there's his on his lip?
Bobby Kelly
I don't, buddy, first of all.
Jay Oakerson
What?
Bobby Kelly
I don't wish any jizz on any lip.
Jay Oakerson
Except I feel like if there was jizz on your face. It would be all over your face. Or none, because you swallowed it. I feel there's no in between. I guess you could do a half open mouth. Some face. Some open mouth.
Bobby Kelly
What?
Jay Oakerson
Jacob, what's your preference when blasting a fat batch on a lady? What do you prefer? Face, tits, stomach, Mouth.
Bobby Kelly
Why you can't believe in a God?
Jay Oakerson
Why?
Bobby Kelly
Because you can't talk like this and then go back to God. You'd have to go. You would have. You have to.
Jay Oakerson
You can't. What's the palate cleanse?
Bobby Kelly
The what?
Jay Oakerson
What's the palate cleanse for one to the other?
Bobby Kelly
You would have to ask for forgiveness. If you were really. If you were into religion, like Catholicism or Christianity, sure, you'd have to ask forgiveness. Those two every night?
Jay Oakerson
Yeah.
Bobby Kelly
I mean, the other ones are worse.
Jay Oakerson
So if you every night say you're sorry for the things you say on the show.
Bobby Kelly
No, never. No, I never say sorry for comedy.
Jay Oakerson
Do you ask God to give you the strength to not be a raging homophobe who walks through streets yelling at for everybody?
Bobby Kelly
I do not.
Jay Oakerson
That's right. You don't do that.
Bobby Kelly
I don't know. I don't do that.
Jay Oakerson
Yeah, I guess you don't.
Bobby Kelly
This is absurd.
Jay Oakerson
What you're saying is absurd.
Bobby Kelly
And what you're saying is you're going to hell for that. Because that's a lie.
Jay Oakerson
The lie that I said will be going to hell. You just said you have to believe in hell.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, but you do believe in hell.
Jay Oakerson
I don't.
Bobby Kelly
Yes, you do.
Jay Oakerson
No, I don't.
Bobby Kelly
Yes, you do. And I hope hell is Christine not making the bed every day and leaving crumbs everywhere.
Jay Oakerson
No, she can make the bed. She. Her making the bed every day. But I can't fix the fact that she's left some fucking sheet out the bottom. Why?
Bobby Kelly
I hope. Yeah, that's probably my fault. Oh, it's interesting to me that people. I understand. I understand both sides. Like, people don't believe in God at all. I mean, me and Patrice used to philosophize about this all the time. We used to talk about karma.
Jay Oakerson
My two favorite philosophers.
Bobby Kelly
Well, I mean, that should have been our podcast, Philosophizing with Patricia.
Luis J. Gomez
The country is swinging back towards religion because for a few years it became it's all. But then it was replaced with nothing. Like, everyone became nihilistic and now they're. Yeah, and so they didn't replace it with anything. So now they're swinging back.
Jay Oakerson
Well, Dave said that in the thing with Tucker Carlson, where He's like, there are no. Really atheists. Like, no one practices atheism. Yeah, I guess kind of true, I guess. Like atheism, something you say when you just go, I don't really believe anything or give a shit. Do you believe atheist?
Bobby Kelly
Do you believe in anything? Do you believe in, like, manifesting, like believing, like seeing something, believing it and it coming true, coming to you, like getting what you want in life? Or do you believe in energy? Do you believe in anything other than nothing?
Jay Oakerson
Energy?
Bobby Kelly
Like. Yeah, like. Yeah, like vibration. Some people say that where it's vibration, like you have to vibrate. The whole world is, you know, vibrations and magnets and magnetic, you know, magnetism and all that stuff. And you can bring stuff to yourself by thinking it, but that's a vibration.
Jay Oakerson
Like vibrators and magnets. That's your next question.
Bobby Kelly
No, but people believe in that. People believe in vibrations. Some people believe in.
Jay Oakerson
It's almost my point.
Bobby Kelly
There's too many different beliefs, but they're all the same. If you look, if you. If you break them down. All religions are pretty.
Jay Oakerson
I remember Jesus talking about vibes, but.
Bobby Kelly
He'S talking about positive thoughts.
Jay Oakerson
Jesus was the ultimate vibe curator, though.
Bobby Kelly
But he talks about positive.
Jay Oakerson
Quite a vibe, huh?
Bobby Kelly
He talks about positive thinking.
Jay Oakerson
Sure.
Bobby Kelly
Which is a positive vibe.
Jay Oakerson
So Tony, like a Tony Robbins. That's a good.
Bobby Kelly
Well, that's another form of. I think another form of religion for people is like that. That type of, you know, believing in all that stuff, you know.
Jay Oakerson
But what is the give a shit about that then? Are you praying to Tony Robbins?
Bobby Kelly
No. You're actually, you're actually. I think that. I think they're actually using their own brain as the power.
Jay Oakerson
Some people think that religion to most people is harmless and then it causes a lot of. For people.
Bobby Kelly
I think there's a theory that you're God and all the other people around you are. You've just. You've become different people to live different lives, to experience different things.
Jay Oakerson
Because Pristine. What I am God.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, that's what she says.
Jay Oakerson
I am your God now.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah. Every time you handed that check. Put that in the bank and pay for all this.
Jay Oakerson
God says, put this in the bank.
Bobby Kelly
Let me see this. This is Dave Smith on Tucker Carlson talking about.
Jay Oakerson
Interesting. Very interesting atheist interview.
Bobby Kelly
It's so funny because Dave Smith on TV looks very manly.
Jay Oakerson
Yeah.
Bobby Kelly
You know, but in life.
Jay Oakerson
Handsome fella.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, very handsome fella, but in life. I mean, a little thin dude, you know?
Jay Oakerson
Yeah. I had my daughter. I found God the day my wife delivered our first child, I go out and I'm in the. The hallway in the maternity ward. For the first time, it hit me that, like, something could go wrong. This is kind of the thing. I mean, that's what he says, Bailey. He thought something could go wrong, and he was. Got overcome with emotions. So that makes sense. I understand people finding it when you're begging. Now, I've done that. I've been like, if you. God, if you're there and you make this. Whatever things feeling, please let me get Metallica tickets. Please, God, do not. I do not want to hear Max cry. Can we please get into this? God, if you're there.
Bobby Kelly
Listen, God, please let the Cure end early. Let this concert. And now.
Jay Oakerson
No, I think when I. Like when I get anxiety for the first time, like, really bad, where I was going to the hospital, I felt like something terrible was happening to me.
Bobby Kelly
Sure.
Jay Oakerson
In that time, like, desperately, I asked to feel better, and I would do whatever to turn everything around and whatever, but I didn't. Didn't adhere to any of that. And I still, you know, medication helped. That's what helped.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, I know, but I think. I mean, I've had moments in my life. I mean, the. The night I. The last night I got arrested when I was 15. Rochester, New York, in the police station, all night, being interrogated, lying. Them opening the door and seeing the other two kids who I was with, crying, who ratted me out, knowing I'm going to jail, going into that jail, which is the worst jail I've ever. Juvie jail I've ever been in in Rochester, New York. It was like real prison. Getting into this cell, and I got on my knees and I prayed to God.
Jay Oakerson
Was that his name? Was it Jesus?
Bobby Kelly
No, it was by myself. But I prayed to God. I was like, listen, man, whatever. Whatever direction you need me to go in right now, I am willing to do whatever you need me to do. Whatever. I just need. I know I need to stop drinking. I need to stop using drugs. Because when I stopped that, things were going, all right, I need your help. Whatever you want me to do, I'm willing to do. The next day, which is a weird thing, my mom and my Bobby spread.
Jay Oakerson
The word that gays are bad.
Bobby Kelly
That's not true.
Jay Oakerson
And straights are good. Tell them with the F word.
Bobby Kelly
Robert, that's not. I. Don't say it.
Jay Oakerson
Sorry.
Bobby Kelly
You Orange peel face. Sorry. Sorry. So, Robert, first of all, God is not Count Dracula.
Jay Oakerson
You have to go crush a lot of pussy and wear overalls with no shirt and no Underwear and no underwear. Masturbate into a towel and put it on your friend's door knob. This is my word.
Bobby Kelly
That is the word of the Lord. But the next day, Bobby's been following.
Jay Oakerson
The Lord since he put a comerag on my doorknob.
Bobby Kelly
The next day, my mom and my stepfather, who gave up on me, like, literally were like, we're done. Blah, blah, blah. They showed up, and they were a hundred. They were. They were. For some reason, they believed me. They came in. I'm like, listen, I need to get sober. I need to get it together. I'm willing to. And they brought. They came in. They believed me. They. They were shipping me back to Boston on a plane in a week. They came back up with all kinds of stuff for me when I went back to the other jail. And they were like, we got you. Whatever you need. We believe. For some reason, they believe me. And it was weird because over the last four years, I was a fucking piece of shit, in and out of jails, in all these foster homes. And the first time I got on my knees and prayed and asked for help, I got it. That's weird shit. And I've been sober ever since. And there's been a couple times in my life in sobriety that that's happened to me. Now, do I believe in Jesus Christ and all that stuff? I don't know. I think religion is fascinating.
Jay Oakerson
Vishnu.
Bobby Kelly
Who?
Jay Oakerson
Vishnu.
Bobby Kelly
Vishnu's. Yeah, he's fascinating. But I. I do. I think religion.
Jay Oakerson
But I think the guy who gives you the thetans. Pollywog. What's the name of the. The one for the Mormons.
Bobby Kelly
That's not more as a science.
Jay Oakerson
Scientology? I mean.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, more. But all the religions, if you look, they're all based on the same thing. They're all based on. Don't bang your neighbor's wife. Treat people the way you treated. Ha. You know, don't kill people. It's a moral compass for people to actually have a guideline in life. So we don't. Just the strong don't murder everybody. I think so. I think it's a good thing.
Jay Oakerson
Praise Zenu.
Bobby Kelly
You don't know Xenu.
Jay Oakerson
Do you know Xenu?
Bobby Kelly
No.
Jay Oakerson
Is that you pray to.
Bobby Kelly
No, I don't pray to Zito.
Jay Oakerson
Now, what if I'm not a Scientologist, but I pray every night to Xenu? Is he gonna hear my prayers?
Bobby Kelly
I don't know.
Jay Oakerson
Do I have to do people and be weird?
Bobby Kelly
Tom Cruise, I mean, believes in this stuff. I don't know. Zeno I don't. I think it's. I think your brain is so powerful that if you. If you believe in something, that if you believe in something that's positive, whatever religion is, if you believe in something and it's positive, you will find serenity and things will happen in your life and open things up. Sure, I think that.
Jay Oakerson
I think that. I believe that. I believe you keep a positive thing, for sure. I just think some people need it to be attached to something super supernatural, which I'm not even against. I don't know if it's true.
Bobby Kelly
I don't know about the supernatural stuff either, because it does. It does freak me out because I have Jewish friends, I have Catholic friends, I have Christian friends, and there is a little hint of different stuff. I have, you know, Ryan Hamilton. I have. Whatever the. He is freaky Mormon, right? He's a Mormon nerd. Luke, like, Luke, the guy from God Rest His Soul from God Rest the Show Soul from Outdoor Boys. He's a Mormon. He. Anywhere he went in the world, he would go to church on Sundays with pajamas. They would wear. No, they wear ties and white shirts.
Jay Oakerson
Yeah, but weird magic underwear.
Bobby Kelly
Do they?
Jay Oakerson
Yeah.
Bobby Kelly
What do you mean?
Jay Oakerson
They have to wear weird underwear? Yeah. You're allowed to have many wives, but they often be ugly with beards.
Bobby Kelly
There's no hot Mormon wives, right?
Jay Oakerson
I mean, they are under the surface, maybe they get all right. But I mean, like, at first. Look when you see him with their stupid fucking bun. Yeah, those are stupid pajamas.
Bobby Kelly
I don't understand. What is this? See, this is the stuff that gets like. I would think that if Jesus came back today.
Jay Oakerson
Are you wearing your pajamas?
Bobby Kelly
Robert, if Jesus came back today, he probably dressed more like you than he would like, you know, in that garb, he's not gonna get. He's gonna be like, dude, it's cold. Get me one of those hoodies that chubby guy's wearing.
Jay Oakerson
It's new Christ. And you with umlauts. Christ, new Christian.
Bobby Kelly
He's gonna have jeans and a. He's gonna have a. He's gonna have, like a sling bag.
Jay Oakerson
And Jesus said from the mountaintop get up now get down with the sickness get up and then get down with the sickness We've had this. Your mother. Get up. Come on. Get down with the sickness Jacob. Your very father got up get down with the sickness.
Bobby Kelly
What'd you say, Jacob?
Luis J. Gomez
I'm more with you.
Bobby Kelly
What do you mean? About the gays?
Luis J. Gomez
No more the religion than Jay. But one time, every time we've had this discussion Every time it gets to the. The idea of heaven, it falls to pieces because it's just wacky.
Bobby Kelly
Well, I. I mean, I don't.
Luis J. Gomez
We've talked about it.
Jay Oakerson
Maybe you'll understand it if I explain to you this way. Jacob. Boom da ooh dama da boom da boo da ima.
Bobby Kelly
It must be. Can I say this to you and don't take it.
Jay Oakerson
You want to be New Christ or Jay?
Bobby Kelly
I want you to be anybody you want to be.
Jay Oakerson
I like New Christ.
Bobby Kelly
Do New Christ. Okay, don't take this as an insult. This is to Jay.
Jay Oakerson
Yeah, okay.
Bobby Kelly
Please don't. But you can be New Christ. You can relay it to Jay.
Jay Oakerson
No, I want to feel it as Jay.
Bobby Kelly
Don't take this as an insult, please.
Jay Oakerson
I'm too fat to not believe in God.
Bobby Kelly
I didn't want to say it, but. Yes. You're not there yet, dude. You're almost there, but you're not there. No, that's not what I was going to say. Isn't it funny when you're fat? You think that's everything.
Jay Oakerson
Can I say to me without you getting upset, something fat tagged onto it.
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Bobby Kelly
No, I want to say this and I and I don't insult. I don't want you to take as an insult. It must be nice to not believe in anything like a religion type thing where you can always just be silly and not have these moments.
Jay Oakerson
Sure.
Bobby Kelly
Do you know what I mean?
Jay Oakerson
Yeah.
Bobby Kelly
You don't have the moments where I think when you do believe or you do have some type of spirituality where you not forced to have these moments but they're you're open to it and when you're not open to that I would just say quote unquote silliness. Right. It must be nice to just not have. You can always goof on and be stupid and not take these have these serious moments. Like.
Jay Oakerson
No, I mean still have serious moments but they're more like yeah, but you're.
Bobby Kelly
Not going to look at a sunset and be like man, that's God.
Jay Oakerson
You're gonna be like no, but I could be like that's beautiful. I saw that moment have you have.
Bobby Kelly
But you have that moment where you're like you don't understand what like what it goes into making that.
Jay Oakerson
Yeah.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah.
Jay Oakerson
I just don't know if it was made, like.
Bobby Kelly
But if I said that to you, if I was like, man, look at that. Look how beautiful that is. You'd be like, buddy, I'll go sit.
Jay Oakerson
And watch a sunset with you.
Bobby Kelly
Really?
Jay Oakerson
Of course.
Bobby Kelly
And we can enjoy it.
Jay Oakerson
Yeah.
Bobby Kelly
But at one point. Are you going to be silly?
Jay Oakerson
Yes.
Bobby Kelly
Okay. That's what I'm saying.
Jay Oakerson
You have to spend time being serious for Christ. When you look at a sunset.
Bobby Kelly
I'm just saying that people believe in.
Jay Oakerson
You have a certain amount of time that you have to, like, devote to seriousness with Christ.
Bobby Kelly
There's people. I'm saying it's not a. I'm not saying it's a bad thing or a good thing. I think it must be nice to not have to have these moments. And I think when you believe in something, you kind of forced or in your brain, like, this is a thing, you know what I'm saying? Where you'll be like, hey, man, you know, you get to enjoy for a second, but then you get to be a goofball and not take it in.
Jay Oakerson
DJ Liu, first of all, very stylish shirt. Second of all, you look a beetle.
Bobby Kelly
No, no, not the band. A bug.
Jay Oakerson
DJ Pepper.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah. Your facial hair is annoying everybody.
Jay Oakerson
DJ Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band.
Bobby Kelly
You look like a jazzy bug.
Jay Oakerson
You're not religious, right, Lou? You are.
Bobby Kelly
I believe in higher power. I was raised Catholic, but I'm starting to feel the higher power thing again.
Jay Oakerson
Damn it. That's right. That's right.
Bobby Kelly
Spiritual process.
Jay Oakerson
No drinking. Jacob, you believe in God, right? Hardcore.
Luis J. Gomez
No.
Bobby Kelly
Don't let him bitch you out of God.
Luis J. Gomez
Sometimes I. I do believe in God.
Bobby Kelly
And that's it. You don't have to have a. I.
Luis J. Gomez
Mean, when the barometer, I go right to it. So I guess I can't say.
Bobby Kelly
Well, that's like my joke. Like the hits, the fan for us, we get God, the hits for Jay, he gets Joe Rogan's podcast.
Luis J. Gomez
Yeah.
Bobby Kelly
You know what I mean?
Jay Oakerson
Yeah.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah.
Jay Oakerson
It's true. Black Lou.
Bobby Kelly
Hey, you believe in God? Yes, he does. When's the last time you've been to church, my Jay?
Jay Oakerson
Real question. Real question.
Bobby Kelly
God damn it.
Christine
I haven't been to church in a long time. I'll say that I do believe that there's something out there. I don't know 100 what of what it is. I hope that there is so I can see certain family members again. But I will say, if it is all real, that where we are right now, I believe is purgatory.
Bobby Kelly
You Think this is purgatory?
Christine
Absolutely. There's no other rhyme or reason or explanation that comes close to people dying early. Kumia brought this up a long time.
Bobby Kelly
Ago, but I'm sorry. Anthony Kumia.
Christine
Absolutely.
Bobby Kelly
You're gonna quote Anthony Kumia right now?
Jay Oakerson
The guys at Genius. Everything he says is dead on.
Bobby Kelly
I mean, I don't. I don't disagree. I just. I thought I was the only one.
Jay Oakerson
No, the guy. He's our Jesus.
Bobby Kelly
Yes.
Jay Oakerson
Anthony Kumia for Jesus.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah. What was the quote?
Christine
There's no rhyme or reason.
Bobby Kelly
He has a bunch of quotes. Some of them we can't say.
Jay Oakerson
Yeah. He goes, I believe it was Anthony Kumia said, jesus is black. My ass.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah. I believe Anthony Kumi was the one who says this is the way they act all the time.
Jay Oakerson
Yeah. They still act like they're in the Bible. Animals. We got refrigerators now.
Bobby Kelly
If you leave it out, they'll take it. All right. God. What was his quote? Besides those.
Jay Oakerson
Anthony Nietzsche. Kumio.
Christine
But basically, there's no reason that a grandmother with seven grandchildren at the bus stop dies because a rock ricocheted and hit her in the head. And then you have on the other side, gang bangers and shootouts who just live to walk away. Like, it has to be, oh, this is your time to go type of thing, because your sentence is up. And that's kind of what purgatory is about. Like, you come to purgatory, you do your time of your sins in your past life, and then you go to heaven or hell if it doesn't work out.
Bobby Kelly
But it's complicated if it's purgatory. Don't you. Don't you ascend? Oh, so you think. So you go to where you're supposed to go after this. You go to Hell or heaven. So, I mean, Purgatory, there's like. Would you. Dante's Inferno. Did you read that book?
Jay Oakerson
No.
Bobby Kelly
It's a good book. It's about nine. The nine levels of hell and everybody. It's really up.
Jay Oakerson
What level you think I'd be on?
Bobby Kelly
You'd be on nine and a half. He'd actually.
Jay Oakerson
Top tier is that. I know. Lower you get, probably the better. In hell.
Bobby Kelly
I think the. I don't think it's just. It's different things.
Jay Oakerson
Penthouse to Heaven. I don't think it's sub basement.
Bobby Kelly
I don't think 9 is hot. Higher is worse. I think it's just. Yeah, it's different levels for different things.
Jay Oakerson
Dante's Inferno.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, Dante's Inferno.
Jay Oakerson
Pretty good. So wait, the Person running hell is Dante.
Bobby Kelly
No, Dante went into.
Jay Oakerson
He got his ear pierced in hell.
Bobby Kelly
He went down this.
Jay Oakerson
Hey, I got a devil claw in my ear.
Bobby Kelly
No, Dante did a documentary, the devil. Let him come in and do a doc. A quick doc called Dante's Inferno.
Jay Oakerson
Here's the nine circles in descending order. Limbo.
Luis J. Gomez
Seven.
Jay Oakerson
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. What are you talking about?
Luis J. Gomez
No, the movie seven.
Jay Oakerson
Oh, yes.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, but go ahead, go ahead. What does it say?
Jay Oakerson
But this is nine. Yeah, Limbo. Yeah, that's where you don't know what's going on.
Bobby Kelly
For the unbaptized and virtuous pagans. That's. You experience a life of quiet and misery that you'd go there?
Jay Oakerson
Oh, possibly.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah. But maybe. Maybe you go here too. What's the next one? Lust punished by an endless temptation of fierce endless tempest. Tempters of fierce winds representing the power of lust.
Jay Oakerson
I do have lust I love. I like lust.
Bobby Kelly
You want to go to two?
Jay Oakerson
So far I'm okay on two.
Bobby Kelly
I'm actually in two right now, living in with her.
Jay Oakerson
Okay, so three is gluttony.
Bobby Kelly
Gluttony.
Jay Oakerson
I mean, we both punished by being stuck in a slushy cold rain, surrounded by pigs and guarded by Cerberus. Okay, that sounds right. I think I'm there. So far I'm on rank rung.
Bobby Kelly
Three I don't like. I don't like three. Three I don't like. Slushy rain is my worst type of.
Jay Oakerson
Four is greed.
Bobby Kelly
What is Cerberus?
Jay Oakerson
Real quick, come on, dude.
Bobby Kelly
What is Cerberus?
Jay Oakerson
It's a person. It's a demon.
Bobby Kelly
Guarded by Cerberus is a demon?
Jay Oakerson
Yeah, I just didn't know Cerberus is a demon. The demon who guards the level three of hell.
Bobby Kelly
Is it?
Jay Oakerson
Yeah, it's Dante's boy.
Bobby Kelly
No, what is it? A monstrous multi headed dog. It's a dog that guards the gates of hell.
Jay Oakerson
Yeah. What did I say wrong?
Bobby Kelly
You said it's a demon. Yes, it's a dog. A multi headed dog is not okay.
Jay Oakerson
It has a serpent's tail and snakes growing out of his back. It's a fucking demon, dude. Sorry. This guy never watched Supernatural.
Bobby Kelly
I did. I started.
Jay Oakerson
I'm joking.
Bobby Kelly
I do love Supernatural.
Jay Oakerson
Okay. Greed. I'm not very greedy.
Bobby Kelly
No, you're one of the. You're probably one of the most generous people I've.
Jay Oakerson
I know I'm not greedy.
Bobby Kelly
I was talking to Don about that the other day. I go, jay is one of the most generous people I've ever met.
Jay Oakerson
I just want everybody have a good time.
Bobby Kelly
You do, man. You really do. And I've been with the greediest.
Jay Oakerson
Yeah.
Bobby Kelly
Greedy. Are you crazy? I told you. When a bruny canyon came back down to go to a stupid sub shop and Dane made me pay with my last 20 hit a black Amex which has no limit. You can buy a house.
Jay Oakerson
Yeah. That was the first time you got on your knees.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, it's the third actually.
Jay Oakerson
Greed is punished by pushing heavy boulders and fighting for possession of them. Forever unable to rest. That's not my hell. I'm not going to that hell.
Bobby Kelly
No, that's not your hell.
Jay Oakerson
Anger.
Bobby Kelly
Okay, I'm in this.
Jay Oakerson
Here we go. Punished in the sticks. A river of fire with souls constantly fighting and tormenting each other. Oh, I'm worried about that. I'll just get out of there. I hope I'm worse than this.
Bobby Kelly
I. I'm. I'm going to. I be there. I have anger and I hate it.
Jay Oakerson
Heresy punished in fiery tombs. Eternally imprisoned and tormented. I don't like that. That's just being heretic is just being like anti religion, right? Anti God?
Bobby Kelly
I think so, yeah.
Jay Oakerson
Look up heresy. So we have that, right?
Bobby Kelly
That is you. I know that is you. That's what you do.
Jay Oakerson
I know you.
Bobby Kelly
You call people who pray gay.
Luis J. Gomez
Yeah, you're a heretic.
Bobby Kelly
You're a heretic, dude. You're angry, generous heretic.
Jay Oakerson
Belief or opinion contrary to orthodox religion, especially carry.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, you're an angry, chubby, generous heretic.
Jay Oakerson
All right, so I've made my way down to what? Circle of hell? I believe I made the six so far.
Bobby Kelly
Six?
Jay Oakerson
Violence. This is not me.
Bobby Kelly
No. Well, let's see.
Jay Oakerson
Further divided into sub levels with those who committed violence against. Against others, nature and God facing various punishments, including being boiled in a river of boiling blood. Buddy, that's not blood.
Bobby Kelly
You're violent against God if you're talking against them.
Jay Oakerson
No, I haven't committed. I haven't committed violence against God. That would be like. That'd be like burning down a church or something.
Luis J. Gomez
Well, that's just a move of Uber drivers.
Jay Oakerson
Yeah, tell that to my three headed dog.
Bobby Kelly
Fraud.
Jay Oakerson
I mean Uber drivers or drivers that I've.
Luis J. Gomez
Road rage.
Jay Oakerson
Oh, they're drivers in other cars, you're saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But in, in fact they brought the violence out.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, but what do they do? Those are the demons.
Jay Oakerson
Huh?
Bobby Kelly
You're fighting demons. You're fighting them in God's name.
Jay Oakerson
Oh, yeah, maybe. Well, that's probably where I'm not going to be on that level of hell. I don't want to boil in a boil. A ring of a river of boiling blood. That's a lot of bees.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah.
Jay Oakerson
Eight is fraud. Yeah, you definitely done that punishment in a complex series of ditches, each with different tortures for specific types of fraud.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah.
Jay Oakerson
Am I a fraud?
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You didn't get that fat without us seeing you get that fat. You were sneaking food somewhere.
Jay Oakerson
No, no, no. It was. Well, I was definitely not temper. I wasn't sneaking it, but it was. I'm a fraud in many ways, I'm sure.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, yeah, you were doing.
Jay Oakerson
Sure.
Bobby Kelly
You were doing a lot. A lot of late night fatso eating.
Jay Oakerson
So. Yeah. All right. That one I'm gonna be.
Bobby Kelly
Hey, me too, dude.
Jay Oakerson
I'm gonna be in a ditch.
Bobby Kelly
We're a fat. We're food. Fat frauds.
Jay Oakerson
Frauds.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah.
Jay Oakerson
And the ninth is treachery. The lowest circle, the penthouse where those who betrayed others are frozen in ice with Satan himself located at the center. Okay.
Bobby Kelly
It's not you.
Jay Oakerson
What?
Bobby Kelly
Not you.
Luis J. Gomez
Satan is frozen.
Jay Oakerson
I guess I haven't committed treachery.
Bobby Kelly
You're not. You've never. You've never.
Jay Oakerson
I'm not treacherous.
Bobby Kelly
No. You've never done anything. Betrayed anybody. You're not you. You've never betrayed. You've been betrayed. Yeah, but you've never betrayed intentionally. You have intentionally betrayed.
Jay Oakerson
Yes.
Bobby Kelly
Tell me one. Open up, my son.
Jay Oakerson
Any cheating?
Bobby Kelly
Oh. Oh, yeah. Then I guess we're both going there.
Jay Oakerson
Yeah. It's all I'm talking about.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, but you can. In my religion. No. You can ask for forgiveness and is wiped away with a couple Hail Marys. I'll father the glory be lovely. Is awesome.
Jay Oakerson
That's really nice. What a good God you have.
Bobby Kelly
We do. I have a great God.
Jay Oakerson
It's a really good God. Well, so it looks like I'm going to be kicking it all around the go up fifth. Fifth level of hell.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah.
Jay Oakerson
According to Dante. Dante Nero.
Bobby Kelly
A river of fire with souls better known as base.
Jay Oakerson
Philip.
Bobby Kelly
Wow.
Luis J. Gomez
You can't get out of there, huh?
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, you can get out of there. You got to believe in God, ask for forgiveness and then do good things. But he's not gonna do that. He's gonna continue.
Jay Oakerson
Well, if I'm boiling and boiling blood, I'll probably turn it around. First of all, now everything's been proven.
Bobby Kelly
You can't turn. You gotta turn around before you go. You can't, buddy.
Luis J. Gomez
Constantly boiling.
Jay Oakerson
Why can't I ask for a little bit of evidence?
Bobby Kelly
Buddy. You can do it now. You can be baptized and you can.
Jay Oakerson
Why can't I get evidence right now that'll make me turn it all around?
Bobby Kelly
You're doing the thing again. You're doing the heresy.
Jay Oakerson
I'm asking.
Bobby Kelly
He's asking for you to believe blindly.
Jay Oakerson
Show me something. Take Jacob right now.
Bobby Kelly
No, don't. Stop. No.
Jay Oakerson
If you're listening.
Bobby Kelly
No, Jake. Don't.
Jay Oakerson
Take Jacob.
Bobby Kelly
No. Stop. Jake. God. I. I rebuke.
Jay Oakerson
Squeeze his heart with your hand until it pops.
Bobby Kelly
I hope Jacob dies just to prove you point to you. How funny would that be?
Jay Oakerson
Yes, Robert. Let the bodies hit the floor. Let the bodies hit the floor. It's me. New Jesus knew Jesus.
Bobby Kelly
The actual. The drawings of Dante's Inferno were amazing in the book. They're pretty creepy. Look at that stuff.
Jay Oakerson
Do you know. You know what's crazy? The other day I was going through this. I was like. I wonder if like my spelling's good anymore. Like, I worry about my cognitive thing. And I looked up the word drawing and there's only. There's only one R in it.
Bobby Kelly
I'm sorry. Drawing?
Jay Oakerson
Yeah, drawing. It's drawing. It turns out.
Bobby Kelly
Drawing.
Jay Oakerson
Can you believe that?
Bobby Kelly
I said drawing.
Jay Oakerson
Yeah.
Bobby Kelly
What did I say?
Jay Oakerson
There's not that second R at all.
Bobby Kelly
Draw.
Jay Oakerson
Yeah, I know. I'm with you. Draw ring is what. It sounds right to me. Draw ring. But it turns out it's wrong. So me and you both have egg on our face here. Two fools.
Bobby Kelly
I don't like that. I don't like. I don't like that one. That was too much.
Jay Oakerson
What too much? We're both fools. This one. We look like two idiots.
Bobby Kelly
They're going to make another level of hell for micro correcting pieces of shit.
Jay Oakerson
The tenth circle of hell. Get Dante on the phone. Is this a Verizon deal?
Bobby Kelly
It's my accent. We add ours where there isn't and we take them out where they are.
Jay Oakerson
No. That's what Chinese people do. We do just about fire.
Bobby Kelly
Tonight I'm gonna be at Parks Casino. Throw a plug in the middle.
Jay Oakerson
Hey, why not watch this.
Bobby Kelly
I'm gonna be a Park casino tonight. Come on down, Philly.
Jay Oakerson
I'm gonna be home. But you should get your asses down to Bethlehem, Pennsylvania.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, man.
Jay Oakerson
Tell you a casino.
Bobby Kelly
It's gonna be weird to go back there. I want to go down. I'm going down early. I'm going to Wednesday. I'm going in. I went in early today to do.
Jay Oakerson
Okay. Steak from Oregon Stakes.
Bobby Kelly
No. President's Thief. Who I love.
Jay Oakerson
Yeah. But you should also get a steak from Oregon Steaks.
Bobby Kelly
I don't. I want. I. I like the other place I went to. What was the other. What was the place I went to? I ordered it the other. I tried, but I couldn't find it on Uber Eats. But I found. What's the other place that everybody goes to?
Jay Oakerson
Pat's. Geno's.
Bobby Kelly
Nope. The good one. It's a big Pats.
Jay Oakerson
Gino's is the.
Bobby Kelly
No, it's. It was another one. Unbelievable. They should actually delivered it right to the cigar lounge where I was at. And I. I ate a steak and cheese and smoked a fat back.
Jay Oakerson
We ate a cheese steak. Steak and cheese with guys.
Bobby Kelly
A bunch of guys.
Jay Oakerson
Jacob loves guys.
Bobby Kelly
What was I saying? Oh, I'm so. I'm going back. I want to go rent a car and I haven't been back to the home I lived in. The. The.
Jay Oakerson
The bad kids home.
Bobby Kelly
The. The. My parents, my mom.
Jay Oakerson
There's.
Bobby Kelly
They moved there and we lived in a. When they started putting those new. When they started taking farms over and putting in those townhouses where everybody kind of. There was like five different versions of the house. So everybody kind of had the same layout.
Jay Oakerson
Did Andrew and Cersei move with them?
Bobby Kelly
I'm sorry, what did you say?
Jay Oakerson
Your brother and sister, Andrew and Cersei.
Bobby Kelly
Andrew and who?
Jay Oakerson
Circe.
Bobby Kelly
Circe.
Jay Oakerson
Did we commit to Circe?
Bobby Kelly
No, it's not Circe.
Jay Oakerson
Did we ever find out what it was?
Bobby Kelly
Yes, we did. You said it and I said it. Red Sox song.
Jay Oakerson
Jeffrey. Caroline. Yeah, Caroline Bossetti and Andrew and your older sister Lisa.
Bobby Kelly
They were not. They were not alive yet. Lisa was. It was just me and Lisa. At that time.
Jay Oakerson
How old were you?
Bobby Kelly
I was 13 or 14.
Jay Oakerson
Oh, so you're. You're like me. You're older than some of your siblings by a lot.
Bobby Kelly
No, my sister was actually old.
Jay Oakerson
Well, the. Lisa's older, but the other two.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah.
Jay Oakerson
Are substantially younger.
Bobby Kelly
We didn't. Me and Lisa didn't talk at this time. I was full. Drinking, punk drugs. I was totally.
Jay Oakerson
We didn't really talk before you found new Jesus.
Bobby Kelly
Well, this was. I found Jesus years later. Cuz I actually. We moved there Ben Salem. And it. It was like. It was weird. It was like everybody had these houses, you know, like I grew up in. You grew up in Philly. I grew up in Medford. These old houses. You know what I mean? It's like, you know, streets that have been there for a long time. These were streets that they just made, you know, 10 years ago. It used to be a farm before that. Now all of a sudden, they had a mall. Ben Salem Mall I used to go to. So this is weird to me. This whole area was almost like, I don't know, like the movies in the 80s, like, Valley Girl type.
Jay Oakerson
Robert, it's me. New Jesus. Do you feel like your life at this point was cut into pieces? Was this your last resort? Suffocation? No. Bleeding.
Bobby Kelly
Bugs me how white Black Lou is. Sometimes it really does.
Christine
I'm ready to jam.
Bobby Kelly
Ah, he just gets so pumped up when you're singing these stupid songs.
Jay Oakerson
Don't talk about New Jesus like that.
Bobby Kelly
I'm sorry. You're right. Jesus. I apologize. I'll follow.
Jay Oakerson
What's your problem, bro? What's up, bro? You want to go?
Bobby Kelly
I think I want to. I think I'm gonna go back to the neighborhood, try to find the place where I went to school. The place I got arrested.
Jay Oakerson
The priest who raped you?
Bobby Kelly
No. There's no police. No, I never got raped by a priest.
Jay Oakerson
So you're just homophobic out of nowhere.
Bobby Kelly
I'm not homophobic.
Jay Oakerson
I. No, I forgot familiar. So you're not homophobic.
Bobby Kelly
Very happy with the gay community, I hope. I wish them all the best.
Jay Oakerson
You're gay with the gays.
Bobby Kelly
I love the gays. I'm a gay with the gays.
Jay Oakerson
Yay.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah. I want to go check it out, because I did that in Rochester. There I went. When I first went back up to.
Jay Oakerson
The farm, you said you went to.
Bobby Kelly
Right, I went to the farm. It was still there. The pig. One of the pigs. I don't know if I. I think. I think it was still around.
Jay Oakerson
No, they just told you that maybe you're like, oh, my God. Is this Squeaks? And they're like, yeah. I knew it.
Bobby Kelly
Come here.
Jay Oakerson
He recognizes me.
Bobby Kelly
The first day on the farm, when I was working there, I showed up with, like, a wife beater, and. And I had Jordache jeans, and I.
Jay Oakerson
Had a pair of Jordaches.
Bobby Kelly
I had mirror shades. And I showed up on this farm thinking I was a badass from Boston. And I went and they met. I went over to the barn. They were showing me where I have to clean all these stalls that I didn't know. And there was a. They had a mentally person working there. And he walked up with this cat that was just lying. Just relax. Like, hanging out of his arms. And as I got closer, I saw that he had his finger in its vagina.
Jay Oakerson
Okay.
Bobby Kelly
And I was like. I was like, no, you can't do that. He was like, oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm not supposed to do that. But the cat was looking at me like, yo, man, why don't you back off? You. Why don't you stop being a blogger? Let this man do what he's got to do.
Jay Oakerson
And you think there's a God based off of that?
Bobby Kelly
There's. I believe. Believe in. It does. Christine, we were talking about believing in God. Christine, do you believe in God? Do you believe in Aegon? Yes.
Jay Oakerson
Wow.
Bobby Kelly
Now I'm gonna say this now. He believes in one. I believe in one. He believes in one. He believes. The only one that's going to all five levels of hell is the person you live with. Fifth level, hell, he's going to fifth. I just, like. I feel like I've, like, had a open dialogue with God forever. Like, I do pray, right? I do. You know, but at the same time, I'm. I feel like I'm also just talking to myself, you know? It's like I feel like everything is in my head. Like whatever idea I have of God is just my own thoughts. Right? Okay. That's a version of God. I mean, it's better than what you got.
Jay Oakerson
It's new Jesus here again. I'm doing the best I ever did. Go away. I'm doing the best I ever had. Now. Go away.
Bobby Kelly
Does new Jesus talk through song? Is that his thing?
Jay Oakerson
Exclusively through new metal songs. New Jesus.
Bobby Kelly
New Jesus.
Jay Oakerson
Bobby said Jesus, if he came back, would be dressed like me. So now I'm new Jesus.
Bobby Kelly
Well, I'm thinking that Jesus, if he came back, would not dress an old garb. He probably dressed in something comfortable, like a hoodie, maybe some shorts, some Jordans, right?
Jay Oakerson
Yes.
Bobby Kelly
He's not gonna go back to sandals. That's why I don't understand, like, Muslim religion. The acidic Jews. Certain religions that dress in that way, it's like you evolve God.
Jay Oakerson
One thing's for sure, they do it all for the nookie. Come on. The nookie. Jacob, do my come ons. The nookie.
Luis J. Gomez
Come on.
Jay Oakerson
So you can take that cookie and stick it up your.
Luis J. Gomez
Come on.
Jay Oakerson
Stick it up your ass. He doesn't know new metal.
Bobby Kelly
You don't know new metal.
Jay Oakerson
He must be a Jew.
Bobby Kelly
He is a Jew.
Jay Oakerson
I knew it.
Bobby Kelly
He's a Jew.
Jay Oakerson
Jews are too dorky to get new metal.
Luis J. Gomez
New metal was not my thing.
Jay Oakerson
And that's why you're going through the seventh circle of hell. Hearsay, heresy against new metal.
Bobby Kelly
You are here. I mean, you are heretic. You think praying's gay?
Jay Oakerson
It is.
Bobby Kelly
It's not gay.
Jay Oakerson
The action's gay.
Bobby Kelly
No, it's not. Don't put your glasses on.
Jay Oakerson
You're going down. You're going down cock level to your Lord.
Bobby Kelly
So if pray what? If you pray and just get up, put your hand. You just pray sitting on the edge.
Jay Oakerson
Are you sexy?
Bobby Kelly
Huh? It's not sexy. It looks like you're trying to eat your glasses.
Jay Oakerson
If I do what to pray. If I do what to pray?
Bobby Kelly
If you just sit on the edge of the bed and pray without getting on your knees.
Jay Oakerson
What about it?
Bobby Kelly
Is that gay?
Jay Oakerson
Doesn't it not work then? Don't you have to be on your knees?
Bobby Kelly
No, you can pray right now.
Jay Oakerson
Yeah. How about if. Can I do it when I'm laying on my back and then have God maybe crawl between my legs that way?
Bobby Kelly
What?
Jay Oakerson
Like on all fours?
Bobby Kelly
What?
Jay Oakerson
Oh, I don't like being blown standing up.
Bobby Kelly
Are you talking about God blowing you?
Jay Oakerson
Oh, no, I'm blowing God in this story.
Bobby Kelly
I don't understand how you.
Jay Oakerson
Am I blowing new Jesus? Because that's gonna be a lot of buckles. I feel like to take off. That guy's wearing a lot of belts.
Luis J. Gomez
What would you pray for, Jay?
Jay Oakerson
Huh? If you did bigger wiener.
Luis J. Gomez
Okay.
Jay Oakerson
But like a problematically large one.
Luis J. Gomez
Give an earnest prayer for that.
Jay Oakerson
Huh?
Luis J. Gomez
Doing a. Try it, try it. Try an earnest God.
Jay Oakerson
Give me 3, 4 inches on my penis. So I can really be a problem for any girl who's got a normal sized vagina. I really wanted to know I was there. I wanted to close.
Bobby Kelly
To get through your eyes and do it.
Jay Oakerson
I wanted to have to get through. Do you want to bend down in front of you, Bobby?
Bobby Kelly
Yeah. I would like this. If you really mean it, I would say that you come over and bend down and pray to God.
Jay Oakerson
Yeah.
Bobby Kelly
About what you want. And this is what you want to.
Jay Oakerson
Pray into your lap?
Bobby Kelly
Yeah. You don't have to get on your knees. I would say you'd have to like squat down, put.
Jay Oakerson
Yeah, yeah. I mean, I can also just kind of like bend in half and work you from that angle.
Luis J. Gomez
I think they have to be selfless prayers. Like you want a giant penis. But is it for them really or is it for you?
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, do a prayer pre. For selfless prayers for. Not for you, for somebody else.
Jay Oakerson
I pray that Christine had a smaller pussy.
Bobby Kelly
No.
Jay Oakerson
Oh, that's still you. I thought my wiener was going to be.
Bobby Kelly
First of all, your weaning didn't make her bigger.
Jay Oakerson
No, no. One month.
Bobby Kelly
All Right. Her has definitely shrunk over the years.
Jay Oakerson
She might have vaginal rejuvenation.
Bobby Kelly
100. She does very pop that ding dong in those shorts.
Jay Oakerson
This ding dong hasn't seen that vagina in forever.
Luis J. Gomez
Yeah. It's not selfless, man.
Jay Oakerson
I wasn't selfless at all.
Bobby Kelly
It is selfless. Try to make it selfless. Make it about the woman, not about you.
Jay Oakerson
God, I pray that you imagine all the people. It's easy if you try.
Bobby Kelly
I think that's what I'm preaching. I feel like you're stealing somebody else's prayer.
Jay Oakerson
Okay.
Bobby Kelly
Okay. Try again.
Jay Oakerson
God, it's Jay. Sup?
Bobby Kelly
You can talk to God.
Luis J. Gomez
Stay with it.
Bobby Kelly
You can talk to God the way you want to talk.
Luis J. Gomez
Stay with it.
Jay Oakerson
I wish that I would have told my father in the living years. Say it loud, say it proud.
Bobby Kelly
No, I.
Jay Oakerson
Say it clear.
Bobby Kelly
No, listen, this isn't. I believe this is. No.
Jay Oakerson
Was that Mike of the Mechanics? Okay.
Bobby Kelly
Pretty sure that's somebody else's words again.
Jay Oakerson
Yeah.
Bobby Kelly
You got to learn to talk from your heart.
Jay Oakerson
It was PETA. I think it was a Mike Rutherford side project.
Bobby Kelly
Why don't you talk from your heart? Say a prayer from your heart that comes from you.
Jay Oakerson
Okay.
Bobby Kelly
To God. Ready?
Jay Oakerson
Prayer from my heart.
Bobby Kelly
From your heart.
Jay Oakerson
God, Till now I always got by on my own I never really cared Until I met you but now it chills me to the bone how do I get you alone? How do I get you alone?
Bobby Kelly
Wait a minute.
Jay Oakerson
That was heart.
Bobby Kelly
No, I know. I know. Not heart. The band. I'm talking about from your heart. Oh, not heart.
Jay Oakerson
Specific apologies.
Bobby Kelly
The two old chubby girls.
Jay Oakerson
Okay, that's not a nice thing to say about them.
Bobby Kelly
Okay, well, I. Not them. You need to come from your heart. So how about something from your soul? Inner from. Inner. From inside you.
Jay Oakerson
For my soul.
Bobby Kelly
From your soul.
Luis J. Gomez
One of them.
Jay Oakerson
Dear God, say it loud. Black and I'm proud. Hot pants.
Bobby Kelly
What? What? What?
Jay Oakerson
Oh, hot pants.
Bobby Kelly
What?
Jay Oakerson
Not that many words. Hot pants.
Bobby Kelly
I don't.
Jay Oakerson
Amen. Jesus.
Bobby Kelly
Listen, I think this is another. You're doing another song? This is another song, bro. You gotta. I'm telling you, every time I say, come from the heart.
Jay Oakerson
You said from the soul.
Bobby Kelly
From your soul.
Jay Oakerson
That was soul.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, but no, you need to come. You need to be original. Original.
Luis J. Gomez
There's a cadence.
Bobby Kelly
It has to be original. Has to come from you, inside you.
Jay Oakerson
Okay.
Bobby Kelly
To God. Okay. Okay. Let's go. Let's do this. Go.
Jay Oakerson
Dear God, should I pack it up? Should I pack it in? Should I let you begin. You came to win. If I battle you, that's a sin. Come on. No, that was right there. That was right there.
Bobby Kelly
This isn't other people's words.
Jay Oakerson
Okay, but I'm not a.
Bobby Kelly
You're speaking through limericks.
Luis J. Gomez
You're.
Jay Oakerson
Hi.
Luis J. Gomez
You're hiding, Jay.
Bobby Kelly
You're hiding.
Jay Oakerson
Dude, I'm not hiding.
Bobby Kelly
You're hiding something.
Jay Oakerson
Stop it.
Bobby Kelly
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Podcast Summary: "Nu Metal Jesus"
The Bonfire with Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly
Release Date: May 30, 2025
In the "Nu Metal Jesus" episode of The Bonfire, hosts Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly delve into a whirlwind of topics ranging from religious beliefs and personal anecdotes to humorous takes on Dante's Inferno. Joined by regular guests Jacob, Luis J. Gomez, and Christine, the conversation is a blend of sharp wit, candid discussions, and unfiltered humor that epitomizes the show's trademark style.
A significant portion of the episode centers around the hosts' perspectives on religion, prayer, and spirituality. The dialogue reveals a mix of skepticism, personal experiences, and humorous interpretations.
Robert Kelly shares a personal story about finding solace through prayer during a tumultuous period in his youth:
"[24:18] Bobby Kelly: ... the night I... got on my knees and I prayed to God... and I've been sober ever since."
Jay Oakerson engages in a playful yet critical discussion about the nature of prayer and organized religion:
"[03:48] Jay Oakerson: ... everyone kind of at odds... Bobby is not allowed to let his incredible... exploding ... homophobia."
Humorous exchanges highlight differing views on praying:
"[55:07] Jay Oakerson: Bobby said Jesus, if he came back, would be dressed like me. So now I'm new Jesus."
"[56:23] Bobby Kelly: If you just sit on the edge of the bed and pray without getting on your knees."
The hosts creatively incorporate Dante Alighieri's Inferno to humorously categorize their own behaviors and traits, assigning themselves to various circles of hell based on their personalities.
Jay categorizes himself as a fraud, placing himself in the eighth circle:
"[44:33] Jay Oakerson: Eight is fraud. Yeah, you definitely done that punishment in a complex series of ditches..."
Robert Kelly humorously associates himself with the second circle related to lust:
"[40:45] Bobby Kelly: I'm actually in two right now, living in with her."
Lighthearted banter about their standings in hell's hierarchy includes:
"[35:55] Jay Oakerson: You're a heretic, dude."
"[45:12] Bobby Kelly: What is Cerberus?"
"[43:32] Bobby Kelly: You're an angry, chubby, generous heretic."
The episode transitions into a spirited debate on health care policies, with Robert proposing a merit-based system while Jay counters with practical challenges.
Robert advocates for merit-based health care, emphasizing personal responsibility:
"[08:00] Bobby Kelly: We should deserve our health care and we all should get health care. But... if you want premium healthcare, you work for it."
Jay counters the feasibility, highlighting issues with insurance accessibility:
"[08:20] Jay Oakerson: But you can't get good insurance just by working for it."
They brainstorm solutions, suggesting innovative approaches like bundling insurance through podcasts:
"[14:05] Bobby Kelly: And then you get insurance."
"[10:43] Bobby Kelly: I think people who don't make enough money a year should get free health care."
Throughout the episode, the hosts and guests share personal stories that provide depth and context to their perspectives.
Robert narrates his rehabilitation journey, crediting prayer for his sobriety:
"[24:21] Bobby Kelly: ... I got on my knees and I prayed to God... I'm starting to feel the higher power thing again."
Banter about past arrests and upbringing brings a relatable and humorous dimension:
"[51:00] Jay Oakerson: How old were you?"
"[51:03] Bobby Kelly: ... I was full. Drinking, punk drugs. I was totally."
The dynamic between Jay and Bobby is marked by sharp humor, playful insults, and camaraderie, keeping the conversation lively and entertaining.
Playful insults and back-and-forth jokes are a staple:
"[46:12] Jay Oakerson: You have to go crush a lot of pussy and wear overalls with no shirt and no Underwear..."
"[56:11] Jay Oakerson: But like vibrators and magnets. That's your next question."
Humorous debates on language and spelling add a layer of comedic relief:
"[47:45] Bobby Kelly: ... 'drawing' has only one 'r'."
"[30:18] Bobby Kelly: It must be. Can I say this to you and don't take it."
Towards the end of the episode, the hosts reflect on their discussions, blending humor with introspection.
Discussion on therapy and mental health awareness, sponsored by BetterHelp, underscores the importance of mental well-being:
"[59:07] Bobby Kelly: ... Mental health awareness month right now encourages everyone to take care of their well being and break that stigma."
Final humorous exchanges continue until the end, leaving listeners with a mix of laughter and thoughtful moments:
"[61:56] Bobby Kelly: Listen, I think this is another. You're doing another song?"
"[62:26] Bobby Kelly: With usaa, you can bundle your auto and home and save up to 10%."
Robert Kelly on Prayer and Sobriety:
"[24:18] Bobby Kelly: ... I prayed to God... I've been sober ever since."
Jay Oakerson on Merit-Based Health Care:
"[08:00] Jay Oakerson: ... I think the people that make the money should pay and the people that don't should get it for nothing."
Humorous Dante's Inferno Classification:
"[43:17] Jay Oakerson: It is."
Host Camaraderie:
"[55:07] Jay Oakerson: Bobby said Jesus, if he came back, would be dressed like me. So now I'm new Jesus."
"Nu Metal Jesus" exemplifies The Bonfire's ability to intertwine humor with meaningful discussions. Through a blend of personal anecdotes, philosophical debates, and relentless banter, Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly deliver an episode that is both entertaining and thought-provoking, staying true to the show's ethos of blunt humor and unfiltered honesty.