
Wu-Tang Clan legend & filmmaker The RZA visits the Bonfire for the first time. Jay is a super fan of the rap group and everything they create, so he is overjoyed for this interview. Bob gives his take on the new movie "One Spoon of Chocolate" and gets RZA laughing. Jay shied away from meeting him one time because of a cold reception he got from Fat Joe. | Bobby is taller with his elevation sneakers and hates his artwork for Skankfest. | Christine gets sent a nude from a camper and Jay can't wait to see it! RZA's One Spoon Of Chocolate is out in theaters now! *To hear the full show to go www.siriusxm.com/bonfire to learn more! FOLLOW THE CREW ON SOCIAL MEDIA: @thebonfiresxm @louisjohnson @christinemevans @bigjayoakerson @robertkellylive @louwitzkee @jjbwolf
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Big Jay
And now the bonfire with Big J.
Announcer
Okerson and Robert Kelly.
Bobby Kelly
We got this last minute interview. Yeah, we came in early. We got a last minute RZA interview that we're going to interrupt the Lost tapes with. But, ooh, yeah, we're excited.
Big Jay
We're really excited now, before it's happened. Let's see how it goes.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah. So enjoy.
Big Jay
What if he turns on us hard?
Bobby Kelly
We'll run. We'll throw Jacob at him. And then we run.
Big Jay
Jacob. You deal with him. This is a very exciting interview for me.
Bobby Kelly
It is.
Big Jay
Yeah.
Bobby Kelly
And we saw. I saw his movie last night, went to the premiere and. Very funny. We were. We went into the theater early. Theater 5. It's a bunch of little theaters.
Big Jay
You and Christine.
Bobby Kelly
Me and Christine. My. My date last night. We're a great couple, by the way.
Big Jay
Power couple.
Bobby Kelly
Power couple. We walked right in like nobody stopped us. And we're sitting in there. We grabbed the seats in the back. Small theater, Theater five. And then Bo.
Big Jay
Keem Woodbine.
Bobby Kelly
Woodbine walks in with his friends, looks at us and goes, oh, we're in the wrong theater.
Big Jay
Really?
Bobby Kelly
And then she goes. She goes with theater. You in theater five? She goes, no, this is the right one. He was like, oops, sorry.
Big Jay
Christine said that?
Bobby Kelly
No, the lady.
Big Jay
Oh. I was gonna say, Christine has no idea who Bokeem Woodbine is.
Bobby Kelly
No, she has no idea. But I did. As soon as I saw him, I was like, what's up, man? I'm a big fan. But he. He looked at two corny white people, was like, yeah, man, I'm famous. I'm supposed to be with other famous people. We're in the Nobody theater.
Big Jay
Bokeem Woodbine Played his stepfather in the Wu Tang Clan TV show.
Bobby Kelly
He also was awesome in Fargo.
Big Jay
Pokemon was good in Fargo.
Bobby Kelly
This movie was. Was awesome.
Big Jay
Yeah. Revenge flick.
Bobby Kelly
Revenge flick. It was fantastic.
RZA
He's still down the hall.
Big Jay
I just don't want to interrupt. Interrupt a free tape.
Bobby Kelly
Nah, you can. You can interrupt anytime you want. We love you, dude brain. What do you need, dude?
Big Jay
Ready in about, like, 5ish minutes.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, we're ready, buddy. Yeah, the movie.
Big Jay
That's Liam, our conduit to the rza.
Bobby Kelly
He's our conduit to all of the famous people.
Big Jay
To all of the famous people. But right now, the RZA.
Bobby Kelly
One more note.
Big Jay
So you guys have 20 minutes. Is that okay? Yeah. Okay, cool. Thank you so much.
Bobby Kelly
Thank you, buddy.
Big Jay
That guy, I was going to let him know how much traffic I sat in, but, I mean, we did come here.
Bobby Kelly
Our show's at 5.
Big Jay
We're here at.
Bobby Kelly
We're here. 11.
Big Jay
You were here at 11? Yeah, I was at 11ish. I was in the tunnel.
Bobby Kelly
I love a good ish.
Big Jay
Yeah, at 11ish. I was in the tunnel till about 11:30.
Bobby Kelly
Well, you're here now. And we got the. The Riz coming in. Can I call him the Riz?
Big Jay
I wouldn't.
Bobby Kelly
Well, during the movie, Bo Keem was. Him and his pals were. You know, they were talking.
Big Jay
Yeah. It was black people movie theater.
Bobby Kelly
And I was like, christine, I should jump in. She's like, don't.
Big Jay
You should.
Bobby Kelly
I was like, come on. I got stuff, too.
Big Jay
You should go. Hey, did you guys know there's elevators in federal penitentiaries? Yeah. Yeah.
Bobby Kelly
This movie, though, was a little difficult as a white dude.
Big Jay
It's white supremacists.
Bobby Kelly
It's. It's. It's. It's white supremacists, but to the 35th power.
Big Jay
Yeah. They're very violent to black people.
Bobby Kelly
It's. It's Uncle. He. He made it so. He made him so bad that you could. As.
Big Jay
You know, I'm gonna tell Riz that you thought it was a tragedy because all the black people got. All the white people got hurt.
Bobby Kelly
I actually watched it in reverse. You want to throw to the interview? Yeah, let's go to the interview. Here he comes right now.
Big Jay
Everybody there is a.
Bobby Kelly
Hey, what's up, man? How you doing?
RZA
Let me go and give you some love. What up, brother?
Big Jay
Nice to meet you, man.
Bobby Kelly
How you doing?
Christine
Thank you.
Big Jay
So.
RZA
So you tell me that I'm doing. This is comedy now.
Bobby Kelly
Comedy.
RZA
I could run. I could run one of my jokes now.
Bobby Kelly
Please, please.
Christine
No, no, no.
RZA
All my jokes, I still.
Bobby Kelly
So, yeah.
RZA
If you got one, say it now. I'll say it after you.
Bobby Kelly
Okay, okay, okay. They
Big Jay
talk about your little white penis. Bobby, I have a small penis.
RZA
I won't be able to sell it out.
Bobby Kelly
This is my first joke I ever did. You ready? My grandmother was born with two thumbs and one hand. She made a great pie crust. Oh, crate for the act out. You got to wait for the act.
RZA
You got to act it out.
Bobby Kelly
He didn't get it until I did the act out. Then he got it.
Big Jay
Apologies, apologies.
Bobby Kelly
How you doing, man? I, I. We saw the movie last night. I got to say, man, you created your own style. I've seen some mixtures of people's style in it, but it's your own thing. I was so. I mean, dude, there was so much stuff in that movie, and you did it, right? You went for it. You didn't hold back. It was like watching a movie back in the 80s and 90s, right. The way, the way they used to make movies. They weren't. You weren't trying to please anybody but yourself. A little uncomfortable for being a white guy, right, in the movies.
RZA
Well, I was trying to please the audience in the sense of have fun.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah.
RZA
Feel uncomfortable.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah.
RZA
Get mad, get glad.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah.
RZA
You know what I mean? This. I said I was gonna say a joke, but I'm not gonna say a joke. But do you remember the scene when the sheriff is talking to his son about this personal shit you got going on? Jimmy is bad for business. And then the son says, what do you mean, bad for business? We made a half a mil last week. And his father leans over and says, you know, boy, you get your strength and good looks from my side of the family, but you get your brains from your mama's side of the family, buddy.
Bobby Kelly
It was so funny. Let me tell you why, dude. One of my favorite movies is Smokey and the Bandit. It was such Buford T. Justice.
RZA
That's my man.
Bobby Kelly
I heard, junior, when I get home, I'm gonna smack your mama in the mouth. Daddy, my hat fell off. I hope your goddamn head was in it, buddy. When he said that line, I was like, he created. This is a modern day beauty justice. He was so good, man.
RZA
Good shout out to Michael Herney, the actor who's a Michael Herney, actually was a civil. Is a fighter for civil. Civil rights. So most of these actors I know, in a movie, you would never.
Bobby Kelly
Buddy. Oh, my Lord. I mean, he was scary, dude.
RZA
Yeah, yeah. He was in this movie a lot of the actors, I just want to say. Cause you've seen it. There was really a master class of casting and acting.
Big Jay
Yeah.
RZA
The guy that plays Jimmy, who was our lead villain, is married to a black woman with two children. And he's from London. He's a Brit.
Big Jay
I bet that was awkward dinners after shooting.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah. Hoping there's not method.
Big Jay
I gotta take this character home with me. It's gonna be a rough dinner.
Bobby Kelly
Why are you in my house?
RZA
Yeah, right. I seen him, was totally shaving.
Bobby Kelly
Right.
RZA
He shaved everything. He walked. We didn't recognize him. He came in looking like. Like he could be a Brad Pitt guy.
Bobby Kelly
He had to.
RZA
Yeah. Yeah, there he goes.
Big Jay
Yeah.
Bobby Kelly
If he was in New York, he'd get the. Kicked out of in Times Square. Is that guy.
RZA
Yeah, that's him.
Bobby Kelly
He was. He was so. Dude, the. The reason why, you know, like, you make these movies about race, you know, look, I'm a white guy, right? I get it. You know, it's going to be uncomfortable. But you went so, so over the top with these guys that everybody should hate. These guys everybody hates. And I love that you named the town Karensville. There's these little, little things you put in Karensville. It was hilarious. And then you gave a little homage to Quentin with the red apples, of course.
Big Jay
Well.
RZA
Well, this whole movie takes place in the Tarantino's universe. You see, when. When the guy. So that's. That's. You know, when you watch Django, just talk. Let's go backwards a beat.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah.
RZA
Nobody, no black man wanted to be Sam Jackson.
Bobby Kelly
Right?
RZA
Okay. That character was the epitome. Even Minister Farrakhan said if that character, if you see that character, you'd be like, you don't want one ounce of that character in you.
Bobby Kelly
Right? Yeah.
RZA
So these characters here in our film don't. Hopefully there's not an ounce of these motherfuckers in you. I could curse here. Yeah.
Bobby Kelly
You can say fuck it. Yeah. Everything.
RZA
Fuck it, yo.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, you can say whatever you want.
RZA
All right. Fuck it. Fuck it, fuck it, fuck it, yo.
Big Jay
Fuck it.
RZA
Yo, what's up? Yo, Amazon.
Big Jay
Fuck it, fuck it, fuck it.
Bobby Kelly
Other white guy. What's up? Fuck it.
Big Jay
Hey, what up, Taylor?
Bobby Kelly
What's up, Taylor? Jay, stand up. He grew up in Philly and he came up in the black rooms. And one of his little catchphrases was it.
RZA
That's it.
Bobby Kelly
I swear to God.
RZA
That got you uneasy too.
Big Jay
That was me just trying to get through.
RZA
He's cool.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah. He the. The opening scene, though. I didn't Know what to expect. I didn't understand. I didn't. I didn't know what type of movie it was going to be. But the opening scene when the kid was coming down and the playing the basket. I love that you had the actual dribble and the.
RZA
The sounds and stuff.
Bobby Kelly
The sounds in there. And then I was like, oh, this is great. And then what? Ha. It just. Out of the gate, it went wrong. Like, it was like, what the fuck is happening?
RZA
Well, as a filmmaker, my goal is to hit every emotion, bro. It's like, I want you to go to the theater. I want something to happen while you're watching. I want you to look over, maybe like, oh, you see that too? Of course everybody sees it, but how is everybody reacting to it? And what's the energy of it? And of course, you know, being from the Tarantino world, I hate to say that, but that's the facts. That's what I learned from. Right. You're going to have a spoonful of different genres in here. You nailed it with the Buford Sheriff.
Bobby Kelly
Right.
RZA
And we could have went to. I mean, there was a point when the parents came into the jail and they was like, where's my daughter? He said, hold on now, hold on. I love his voice. So that's why I keep.
Bobby Kelly
He's so good, man.
RZA
This guy's good.
Bobby Kelly
He created somebody you want to see again. Yeah.
RZA
But that particular scene, he reminded me of Heat of the Night. Rod Steiger.
Bobby Kelly
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
RZA
You know what I mean?
Bobby Kelly
Yeah.
RZA
And, and, and, and, and so. And yet there's a scene when we get the. The Bell's bondsman.
Bobby Kelly
Oh, my. That. It doesn't. You did create a. Like a multiverse. I'm like, this does. This world doesn't exist.
RZA
Where the hell does this guy come from?
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, the truck and the.
RZA
The.
Bobby Kelly
This is what I love, too, dude.
RZA
Not to.
Bobby Kelly
Not to be a pervert, but you had some nice TNA in there. You. I mean, you should. You know what I'm saying? This had horror genre in it, too. It struck me that door of the deli was frightening to me.
RZA
Right.
Bobby Kelly
When you. Every time you showed that gas station door, it was you from that first scene. That door was terrifying to me.
Big Jay
Yeah.
RZA
Respect.
Bobby Kelly
It had, like this horror vibe to it. When you went to that guy, the bail bar, it was like this. It had this horror thing. And then with the. I don't know, what is it? Party orgy at a vfw. I don't know, but Jesus, I missed out on that white Guy part. Where was that?
Big Jay
I thought it was interesting. When you relocate to Ohio, I'm such a Wu Tang Clan aficionado that I was like, oh, that's from. You moved to Ohio when you were younger for a while.
RZA
Yeah.
Big Jay
Yeah. And also bumping into Bokim Woodbine in the theater. I was like, you fight your stepfather in the Wu Tang saga?
Bobby Kelly
We were in the theater, and it's boutique theater.
RZA
Oh, you guys. You guys went last night?
Bobby Kelly
I went last night.
RZA
Ah.
Bobby Kelly
So I was gonna wear my shirt, but Jay wouldn't let me goes, dude, don't be a nerd.
RZA
You should have took a fucking. You should have got a shot in mezcal, bro.
Bobby Kelly
I don't. I was sober, so I can't, but I will.
Big Jay
You don't. You don't drink?
Bobby Kelly
No, I don't, but I will if you want me to. If you put me in Wu Tang.
Big Jay
If you say so, yes.
Bobby Kelly
Beatbox. Yeah. Come on.
RZA
In the building. In the building. We in the building.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
RZA
We in the building. In the building.
Big Jay
Well, that was a dream come true.
Bobby Kelly
I gotta go. I'm leaving. I'm quitting everything.
Big Jay
It's funny. I want to ask you about that.
Bobby Kelly
Hang on. I need to take a breath.
Big Jay
Go ahead, go ahead, because I have a good qu. I was going to say something made me laugh. Years ago, you and I were both at the same Comic Con, San Diego, and we're both flying back to New York on the same flight. We were only a couple seats away from each other. And I am so bad with that that I go. I planned my entire flight. What am I gonna say when we get off this plane? I'm not gonna bother you on the plane. When we get off the plane. How do I give my. How do I give my little lay down now? I've failed at this before. This happened with Fat Joe to me. And when I got off the plane, he walked off the plane too. And I go. And my plan was to go. I've been a fan since Flo Jo came on the box.
RZA
Oh, I'm like, that's gonna get him. That's a good one.
Big Jay
He came off. I waited. I go. I go, hey, man, I don't want to bug you too long. I just want to tell you, I'm a huge fan. I've been a fan since Flo Joe came on the box. And he just looked at me kind of, like, shitty, and then took an AirPod out and goes, what's that? And I went, fan. And I just left. So when we get off the plane. I think you were off performance. You were kind of gone. And then I think you were waiting for your family at baggage claim.
RZA
Okay.
Big Jay
And then I was like, now's my time. And then I saw like a mirrored view of what was about to happen with a short, kind of bald headed, chubby, like white dude.
Bobby Kelly
You just described me.
Big Jay
Yeah, yeah, but this guy was just, pants were tucked in and he was like balding on top. And him just coming over to you and just laying all of the, like, man, Wu Tang got me through this and got me through that. And I'm watching it going like, that's. He didn't do it for you. I'm like, this is not what his dream was when he made the Wu Tang class. That one day a little short fat guy would be like, hey, man, music really speaks to me. Does it? So my question almost, that is like, it's reached so many people and it's, you know, I thought it was interesting. We went to go see Ghostface and raekwon at Terminal 5 a while ago. And I think it's interesting that looking at the crowd and seeing so many white faces. Raekwon chooses to say ninja. He says ninja and everything because I think he doesn't want it to come back, like, see the crowd coming back with it. Ghostface doesn't give a shit.
Bobby Kelly
What's the word?
Big Jay
He's not saying ninja. Ninjutsu.
Bobby Kelly
What's the word? Oh, ninjitsu.
Big Jay
Okay,
RZA
well, in our movie. Hold on, look, that word is. Let's talk about, talk about the word for a minute. But as far as Wu Tang being so, you know, accepted by so many different people, I think when you look at these nine guys, you got a whole community. Staten island, you got our Italian brothers there, our Jewish brothers there. We in school. I'm in school with Castellano's grandson, bro.
Big Jay
Oh, really?
RZA
I'm serious. You know what I mean? So you feel all that in the music? The Woo Gambinos, like we, we, we, we, we chose that to represent our, our island. And I think that New Yorkers, white, black, green, yellow, all felt that. That's why it did that. And of course, if you, in order to become platinum, you need some white brothers. All right.
Big Jay
You're not going to get was. We laughed. We laughed so hard. We went to go see you guys with Run the Jewels.
Bobby Kelly
Uh huh.
Big Jay
And that's the shirt I should have worn. Yeah. At Run the Jewels.
RZA
That was a nice one. You guys made it to that one.
Big Jay
Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, we.
Bobby Kelly
That was my first time seeing you. And he. He was like. He actually was like, you're coming. Make sure.
RZA
Ah, nice.
Big Jay
I got a chance to see. I saw you guys that first rock of the Bells with Rage back at. Well, this was in Phil. This was outside of Philly. Pnc. Not a pnc. Camden Waterfront.
RZA
Camden, yeah, Camden.
Big Jay
It was Camden Waterfront at the time and Old Dirty. It was such a great thing. And then talk about what a fan I was. And also stupid in this regard because you guys went on first and I was there. I remember I was so excited to see you guys. It was great. And then when we were in between bands, I was just. I think Rage only at that point had the one album out and that song didn't hit me right away. So I remember looking at my girl, Famous Last Words. I went, hey, you want to get out of here? And beat traffic. And then we left. And I never saw Rage against the Machine till two years ago again. Oh, man, the guy couldn't even walk anymore.
RZA
Which is a. Yeah. Which is a. Seeing Rage is rare. Zach and Tom shout out. Tom is a brother. Me and Tom, actually, at the Christmas he did. Tom does these Christmas parties in la. So this Christmas he does the party. He's like, you know, Bobby, you're gonna be in town. I'm doing the Christmas thing for the charity. And I would say, yeah. And he gets on. He gets me on stage. And it's me, Chuck D, Stevie Van Zandt, right. Tom Morello and Arza. And we do Wu Tang Clan Ain't Nothing to Fuck With.
Big Jay
Oh, yeah, yeah. I saw a video of this, I think.
RZA
Yeah, yeah, that's real shit. Yo. So. But going back to the word, right, in the film, you know, there's a lot of vulgar use of the word, right?
Bobby Kelly
Yeah.
RZA
But I think, you know one actor, Mr. James Thompson, who does a great job and also a very nice guy. I gotta tell you, these actors were acting, you know, when James came to the set. Because James is actually probably the most aggressive guy. He's the one at the end that they pull off and they like. He still want to say the word one more time before he goes and shit.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he was. He was a mean looking. He's.
Big Jay
Yo.
RZA
He made. He's a mean looking guy. Nicest guy in the fucking world.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah. He does not. His face does not look nice. He looks like he was born racist. You know what I mean? I'm from Boston. No, no, I grew up with those. That. That little pug nose.
Big Jay
Yeah.
RZA
Yo, bro. And when. You know what? When we. So when I do. And I do my movies, I have to get. I bring the whole cast together. I bring the whole crew together, too. But the N word was so much in this movie that we had to have hr, like, prepare everybody.
Bobby Kelly
You had to have an N word pep talk.
RZA
Yeah, straight up, bro.
Big Jay
Yeah.
RZA
But the guy who had the most lines haven't. You know, he auditioned. I get on the roll. Now I gotta meet him. And I said, well, let's have a cast dinner so everybody can meet each other. He comes. He's the nicest guy. He sits beside the producer's wife. The producer is Paul hall, who did Higher Learning and Shaft. His wife was like a news reporter in her day. Beautiful Black woman, maybe mid-60s. James sits beside her for the dinner. And, you know, so I'm not paying attention after the dentist, he's like, that guy James is the nicest guy I ever met. Because all I know is from the look, I haven't had a chance to really get with him yet. And I was like, james,
Bobby Kelly
he is
RZA
the nicest guy that I ever met. And he is a good guy. We started playing poker games every weekend. So on the weekends, it'd be Don Cheadle, Abazar, rza. My man John Lugo from Staten island would fly in and shit. And half the cast, the grips and all these guys all play poker. And this fucking guy James comes and sweeps the fucking table.
Bobby Kelly
Shit, right?
RZA
And I said, he's winning because they're scared of him. He looks scary.
Bobby Kelly
He looks scary, man. The characters you choose, everybody was a character. It wasn't like a movie you see like this, and it's just one or two. And everybody had their thing, their little. Created this own little universe of themselves. The movies. The movie's amazing. And you. It's almost like I feel we're losing Tarantino, but I feel.
RZA
Got me.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, we got. I'm serious.
RZA
You guys got the rza.
Bobby Kelly
I mean, I'm not saying that because you're right here and you are the rza.
Big Jay
It's a lot of it, though.
Bobby Kelly
It's a lot of it. No, I'm serious.
Big Jay
Well, I wanted to ask how much does your. Because, like, when you're making a movie, how much does your musical mind, like, play into that? Because I always thought. I mean, I know you didn't direct Ghost Dog, but I've always said, like, you might as well have, because it's. The movie is the tone of your music. Well, the whole, like, movie, like, kind of Moves to, like, the tone of your music. I feel like I respect that.
RZA
But that's Jim. Jim. Jim was one of the first guys to get me into Hollywood and get me even thinking about film as well. John Woo was the one that took me to a lot of lunches and gave me the, you know, just the wisdom of watch movies and do this. But Tarantino became my professor. He's the godfather for me, and I studied with him for six years before I finally understood to say that. But as far as music, Music, sometimes, like a man with the Iron fist, the music was there along with the script for this movie. Maybe one or two songs.
Jacob
Really?
RZA
Yeah. Like. Like the opening credit sequence, which is a very awkward Beatles sounding song.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, right.
RZA
I played that on set. I knew that that was gonna open my movie. And then there was the Marvin Gaye song, that Happens.
Bobby Kelly
Oh, yeah. It was a good scene.
RZA
I knew that I wanted it. I didn't think I was gonna get it, but I got lucky on that. And the estate, they appreciated me and they gave me the rights. But then the score. I didn't know how to score this film, bro. I gotta be honest. Nah, I was too close to it. And so Mark Abraham, who was a producer of my first film, I had him come take a look and I said, I need your help, Mark. I. Like, I don't know, you know. You know. He said, I know somebody that can help this. He said, I got a buddy. And it was Tyler Bates. Now, Tyler Bates, of course, did all the John Wick films. He does Guardian of the Galaxy, and he's also a producer of Marilyn Manson.
Big Jay
Yeah, I was gonna say he works with Marilyn Manson. I'm a huge Manson fan, too, so.
RZA
Yeah, so. So. So he watches the film and he says this. What we. What we all just said what you just said? He said. He said. He said I couldn't afford him. Let's be straight, okay? He said, I'll do it because I want people to see this film. He said, I think it's an incredible piece of art. He said, but also, I want people to watch it and make sure that they're not on that screen.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, yeah.
RZA
I said, okay, I get that. And he. So he started doing it, and he was writing great music. And then maybe in the middle, the music supervisor, Gilly, he was like, hey, Bobby, I'll keep doing people's voices.
Bobby Kelly
I like it.
Big Jay
Okay, cool.
RZA
He's like, hey, Bobby, you know, why don't you and Tyler collaborate on some of this stuff? Like you're sitting here you're sitting. Cause you're taking pictures of us in the studio.
Bobby Kelly
He's a white guy, right?
RZA
Yeah.
Bobby Kelly
Okay. Yeah, the voice is good.
Big Jay
Thanks.
RZA
He said, why don't you guys collaborate on this? And I was like, I don't know what you think, you know, Tyler. Tyler's like, yeah, let's do it together. And so we ended up doing it together.
Big Jay
That's probably a kick for him to work with you too. Yeah, it's like, out of network sort of for him.
RZA
Yeah. I don't know. But. But for me, to be honest, he's amazing.
Bobby Kelly
Yo.
RZA
The dude got a guitar with all these pedals, but he only plays the guitar with a bow.
Big Jay
Oh, really?
RZA
So all those sounds you hear in that movie, bro. He's bowing the guitar through some foot pedal, bro.
Big Jay
That's wild. Let me just let you go. Is there two things I could say real quick that I thought was funny? I forgot very recently that I. I auditioned for Wu Tang American Saga, and I went in to read for a part, and they were like, no, but would you mind reading for this one? And it was a scene of a white guy saying the N word. And when you're buying your first BBC. Oh, that's sick. And then I was like, yeah. And it's like two white girls doing the auditions. They go, yeah, yeah. I go, all right. I go, you think I'm gonna get this part? And they're like, why go? Because now you're just gonna have a video of me saying this if I don't get it? I didn't get it. I'm like, oh, great. Well, that's there now for the rest of it. And then the other thing is, do I owe you money? Because every time I walk on stage, every weekend, I come out to can't stop me now. Is that okay?
RZA
That's super.
Big Jay
Okay.
Bobby Kelly
All right. Make sure you check it out. Thanks for coming in, man. The movie is fantastic. It is from the second it opens. It's coming out tomorrow. One Spoon of Chocolate. Release exclusively in theaters tomorrow. Go check it out. It's awesome. If you like Quentin Tarantino, John Woo, all those guys, you're gonna love this movie. So thanks for coming in, man.
Big Jay
Thank you for being here.
RZA
Peace.
Christine
Thank you.
Big Jay
I think you should have wore your elevator shoe.
RZA
I'm loving the humor. I could spend all day in this.
Big Jay
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Bobby Kelly
Sorry about that. Oh, I left $100 worth of. $150 worth of cigar at the newsstand or at Starbucks. Yeah, it's, it's, it's hard. It's because I'm not used to being at where I'm at right now elevation wise.
Big Jay
Well, I gotta tell you, I want to give everybody a little peek behind the curtain on today. It's of course it's Tuesday. It's Thursday. For you listening, it's our pre record. And me and Bobby arrived at the, at the parking lot at the same exact time.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah.
Big Jay
And then we waited for Christine, pulled up shortly after and we all started walking over. And once or twice on the walk, a guy noticed me and said, you know, big fan or whatever.
Bobby Kelly
No, no, no, no. It's more than that. It's way more than, hey man, big fan. I'm fine with that. It's. Dude, you're the man now.
Big Jay
You that you're jumping ahead. You're jumping ahead, Bobby. You're jumping ahead.
Bobby Kelly
I'm burying the lead. Go.
Big Jay
No, it's not. You're burying the lead.
Bobby Kelly
I'm gilding the lead.
Big Jay
I Feel like you heard that first, buddy. That's not what happened first. The guy said, dude, really big fan. I said, thank you very much. And then Bobby turned around, as you often do, and starts accosting this person. Yeah. Motherfucking him. And. And what about me, motherfucker? And then the guy goes, he goes, I've seen you.
Bobby Kelly
No, no, you're missing a key fact.
Big Jay
I'm sorry.
Bobby Kelly
Key fact. I do give them. I look at them eye to eye and I give them the opportunity. I don't just accost people, Jay. That's not who I am. I give you the opportunity. I'll make a couple faces, maybe raise the eyebrow up. And I look at you and I give you an opportunity to go, oh, shit.
Big Jay
No, you hey, hey. Them first. Because we're in transit. We're walking past each other. We were at this point 10 yards away from this guy, and you're cursing at him down the street. He then says, he's like, oh, no. He goes, I've seen you, man. He goes, you're so funny. He goes, I know your bits. He goes, I've seen you at least 10 times. And Bobby goes, and I've killed it every time. And he goes, absolutely. And then he goes, so what the fuck? And he goes, but he's the man. And then Bobby went into full motherfucker mode.
Bobby Kelly
I went into sixth gear.
Big Jay
He went into sixth gear in the sixth gear. We had to turn him around and walk him back. And then about three more times, Bobby kept just accusing other people on the street of recognizing me when they didn't even do anything. He goes, that guy fucking knows you, you fucking cop. And he's angry. And I now, now I'm like, why is this making Bobby so irate? Is making him particularly. Yeah, I rate today.
Bobby Kelly
Today. Yeah.
Big Jay
And I know why now.
Bobby Kelly
Yep.
Big Jay
Because I didn't see it. Because I see Bobby as a. As a ten foot tall giant. The guy dominates a room.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah.
Big Jay
He's the biggest personality. I know what's up. But he is wearing today his lift shoes.
Bobby Kelly
That's right.
Big Jay
That have added three full inches to his height.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah.
Big Jay
Three full inches to his height. And the fact that he wasn't noticed today hits extra hard because I think Bobby thought maybe the problem was, is people were staring right over his head not recognizing him. Now that he's eyes to chin with them, he doesn't understand why they don't know who he is.
Bobby Kelly
Today hurt extra bad. And it bugged me too, because I was standing next to you and I kept Getting inching, like, closing. So I'd be like, dude, he's not realizing we're almost eye to eye right now.
Big Jay
He doesn't even realize that you're eye.
Bobby Kelly
And I stood next to Christine, too, and she was looking up at me. Didn't realize it.
Big Jay
I just thought you were physically dominating me.
Bobby Kelly
No, I was.
Big Jay
That's how I took it. I was like, today. I don't know if you notice, I gave Paul. I gave you Paul as a sign that I trust you. You are the leader.
Bobby Kelly
It really. That motherfucker, though. He came out well, Bobby, you go
Big Jay
at them so hard, they go immediately defensive. Versus going like, you don't give him a chance. Here's what you don't give a chance to. You don't give him a chance.
Bobby Kelly
I do give him a second. I look at him. I get you.
Big Jay
If you go back, looking's not fair. We're in transit, and I am a spectacle.
Bobby Kelly
You are a spectacle. I need to be a spectacle. I need to dress like. What's that guy's name? He said Dandy. Bobby.
Big Jay
What was his name? Oh, Flamin Bob Dandy. If you were flaming Bob Dandy all day long, buddy, you would dominate the streets.
Bobby Kelly
I could sell photos.
Big Jay
Absolutely.
Bobby Kelly
I would sell photos to families.
Big Jay
People are gonna go, holy shit. Oh, my God, it's Times Square. Flaming Bob Dandy. It's Times Square zone.
Bobby Kelly
I need to add zing. Some flare. I need something.
Big Jay
I told you, I got red boots on today. I got the thing flying out of my pocket. Always. I got the wallet chain. I got jingle jangles. I got earrings.
Bobby Kelly
Don't forget the skyrocketing career.
Big Jay
I'm tall.
Bobby Kelly
Don't forget, don't forget. Don't forget the skyrocketing career.
Big Jay
Skyrocketing.
Bobby Kelly
Come on, dude.
Big Jay
Because two people said hi to me on the street.
Bobby Kelly
It's not even the way they said hi, though, if there was. Hey, big fan. I'm fine with that. I get big fan, Big fan. Me and you do this all the time. Anytime we do an event together, we count how many big fans we get, and we, you know, it's. I'm fine with that. Right? And. But the last couple days, it's been, dude, you're the fucking king. You're the. Like, they're given an extra thing, and I'm looking right at him. It's like, if you know comedy, if you know him, you should at least know who I am. Not even from the bonfire, just from the history of New York comedians.
Big Jay
There is no big J with that
Bobby Kelly
Bobby Kelly and this guy, for him to go, dude, senior Tet. 10. 10 times. 10 times.
Big Jay
For the first time, for the first time ever, those words hit Bobby right in the chest. Because this guy was a shorter gentleman himself.
Bobby Kelly
And I'm sitting here in high heel sneakers and it's bugging me because my feet are hurting.
Big Jay
You're wearing heels? Trying to impress the world.
Bobby Kelly
I thought today was gonna be the day.
Big Jay
Dude, Flamin Bob dandy though, is gonna change things.
Jacob
He looks like a.
Big Jay
Where were they cigarettes thing.
Bobby Kelly
Nice. I'm glad I did that before.
Big Jay
Oh, you're gonna dominate. I think I probably charged you for them.
Bobby Kelly
No, those guys love me. He gave me free stuff yesterday.
Big Jay
What?
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, the dude. I hit it off with Muslims, man.
Big Jay
That's what I mean. They love big personality.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah. You see you. I'm a big personality with the blue collar everyday man. You're a big personality with these jerk off.
Big Jay
No, these jerk off ties. Those are Sodor fans.
Bobby Kelly
That's. Yeah. The jobs.
Big Jay
We were telling Bobby outside. Me and Christine were saying to Bobby outside that, remember we would go out, we would do smoke break and we would have to count how many times people stopped and just call Dan Mafee. Yeah, Mafee.
Jacob
Yeah.
Bobby Kelly
The people he hates the most.
Big Jay
He hated them.
Jacob
Loathed them.
Bobby Kelly
Of course he did. And he's one of them. You played one on TV. McPhee.
Big Jay
Oh, my God. A guy breaking stride in a three piece suit to come dap up Dan was the funniest thing in the world. And Dan's wearing a dusty Rhodes shirt. He's wearing a dusty road shirt, mom jeans. And some guy in a fucking three piece suit and a fucking monocle running over to tell him how much he loves them.
Bobby Kelly
Some douchebag that wants to talk about Ripple and xrp. Guys like what has no idea.
Big Jay
Yeah, explain. A short squeeze in the financial game again.
Jacob
The more I look at this picture of you, Bob, last year's skank fest. You're an obese. Pennywise, before he turns.
Big Jay
There's nothing obese about this picture.
Jacob
It's gigantic.
Christine
No, it's the outfit.
Jacob
It's the outfit, sure, but it doesn't flatter him.
RZA
No.
Big Jay
What are you talking about? It's the puffy arms.
Bobby Kelly
Jay, Jay, Jay.
Jacob
The outfit.
Bobby Kelly
Short king is missing.
Big Jay
He's taking a shot.
Bobby Kelly
He's taking a shot because he had the shot.
Jacob
I don't think you are. I'm saying that's the way they drew you.
Bobby Kelly
Hey, Jacob. It's all right, man. I Understand that I'm no longer part of your little gang anymore and you're bummed out. I understand it. Dude.
Big Jay
Christine, do me a favor for Jacob's sake.
Jacob
Is that flat out at all.
Big Jay
Go on either side of Bobby's of the body down there with your fingers on the screen here. It's not fat at all. No, no. Of his size. The red.
Bobby Kelly
The red.
Big Jay
Where's the red underneath the end of November.
Jacob
I don't know what you call the Pennywise collar.
Bobby Kelly
You call me obese. That is like saying the N word to a fat guy.
Big Jay
But you're fine.
Jacob
I didn't draw it.
Big Jay
Yeah.
Bobby Kelly
Why don't you type that down?
Big Jay
No, but you're implying that they made Bobby obese. Because that's the funny thing is to make him obese.
Jacob
But I'm showing the costume so wide.
Big Jay
Look, look. No, no. The red and the blue right there are his sides. They didn't make him fucking heavy at all.
Bobby Kelly
I'm not heavy at all.
Big Jay
What you're seeing is the arms.
Bobby Kelly
He's lashing out.
RZA
He's lashing out.
Jacob
Okay. But the let covering everything you want me to see.
Bobby Kelly
You're lashing out. You made an assumption because you're hurt because you're the smallest guy in the room.
Jacob
Why would you didn't grow Bobby. You bought a lie.
Bobby Kelly
What are you talking about?
Jacob
You're wearing your lies on your feet.
Bobby Kelly
A lot of you want.
Jacob
Yes, that's right. You would have the lie like you will. I don't embrace the lie like you do.
Bobby Kelly
I feel fantastic. How tall I am.
Jacob
I wasn't gonna get them. I had no intention. Now I kind of want them.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, you want them. Dude. They feel good.
Big Jay
I'm actually. I've actually shrunk a little bit. I'm six two now. But I'm six four with fame.
Bobby Kelly
God damn it.
Big Jay
But my street fame puts me at about 6 4.
Jacob
That's what happens when you're the man.
Big Jay
The cost of being the man.
Bobby Kelly
What did the guy say yesterday?
Big Jay
I don't like how Jacob attacked you for being this is this couldn't. You couldn't be less obese here.
Bobby Kelly
No.
Big Jay
Are you.
Jacob
I don't know how you're accusing me of. Of making a knock where I cannot see his waist from.
Big Jay
But why are you assuming that's a
Jacob
fat robot on that one?
Big Jay
That's a big fat robot.
Bobby Kelly
All right, we agree on this one. Fat robot is obese.
Big Jay
But you're trying to attack Flaming Bob Dandy. And Flaming Bob Dandy is not fat.
Bobby Kelly
Flaming Bomb Danny is awesome. Fat robot. Do you know much more expensive fat robot would be to build?
Big Jay
Yes.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah. It doesn't make sense that they made
Big Jay
a fat robot with the cost of tin.
Bobby Kelly
And they gave me a microphone from the 30s.
Big Jay
Yeah, well, it's space also. That's a space microphone for your space tits. I always forgot about your giant space flap tits.
Bobby Kelly
I didn't even notice my space flap tits.
Big Jay
They gave you flap tits and pepperoni nips. What the.
Jacob
There's an actively trying to make him.
Bobby Kelly
There is a conspiracy.
Big Jay
That is an obese robot for sure.
Bobby Kelly
Obese robot.
Big Jay
Flaming Bob Dandy was removed from history
Bobby Kelly
and they made me into Miami Vice Gay.
Big Jay
You like it, though? You like the picture it was.
Bobby Kelly
Look at.
Big Jay
I think if we would have had a chance to see Flamin Bob Dandy, I think at first you would have been like, what the. I think we could. I think we could have convinced you in the Flaming Bob Dandy.
Bobby Kelly
First of all. No, you wouldn't. I would have took Flaming Bob Danny immediately. I love. Because that's who I am inside anyway. You don't know that about me.
Christine
No, if I sent you Flaming Bob Dandy, it would have been a thing.
Bobby Kelly
I know. It wouldn't have been. I would have loved Flaming Bob.
Big Jay
No, you would have needed people to talk you into.
Bobby Kelly
You made me into Bobby Josh Adam Myerson.
Christine
That's a sexy Bobby.
Big Jay
Robert Adam Myers.
Bobby Kelly
But Flaming Bob Danny, sexy to men. I like Flaming Bob Dandy.
Big Jay
Flaming Bob. Danny's got something to say. I don't know what. That microphone he's got in the other picture. Why is his microphone so long? It's got extenders on it.
Bobby Kelly
Liked men.
Jacob
Your pursed lips on the. The picture on the right. You have pursed lips.
Bobby Kelly
They made me gay. Any way you shake it.
Jacob
There's no.
Big Jay
It is Bobby's pose.
Bobby Kelly
I want you to get me that outfit for this year's Skank Fest.
Big Jay
I'm wearing Flamin Bob Dandy.
Bobby Kelly
Flamin Bob Dandy's making an appearance at the bonfire.
Big Jay
One million percent, 100%.
Bobby Kelly
I'm making it. Flamin Bob Dandy's coming.
Big Jay
Fuck, yeah. That might be a Josie machine.
Christine
I know, Mike. I was like, I have a person I'm gonna send this to right now.
Big Jay
She's currently doing. She's currently doing suits for Ari.
Bobby Kelly
And I'm gonna do. I'll do the walk. The Skank Fest walk as Flamin Bomb Dandy, buddy.
Big Jay
And then. And then I think you do have to. Flaming Bob Danny.
Bobby Kelly
The Bonfire Show I will Flamin Bob. Danny's gonna be walking around. I'm gonna be in the cigar lounge as Flamin Bob Dandy.
Big Jay
I might be your lovely assistant. I might be Flamin Bob Dandy's lovely assistant.
Bobby Kelly
What are you gonna dress as?
Big Jay
I don't know. I might have one of those fucking little bunny tails on my ass,
RZA
but
Bobby Kelly
I should have a little collar on you.
Big Jay
Yeah. And I'll be Bear Bear, Bear, Bear. I'm your bear bear.
Bobby Kelly
You're my bear bear.
Big Jay
You keep me on a leash. Yes, I like that.
Bobby Kelly
I like that. And I make you give paw.
Big Jay
Oh, buddy. Yes. Dude. You are a flaming homosexual drag queen. And I am your slave. Yeah, I like that.
Bobby Kelly
I love it.
Big Jay
I'm your slave boy. And you gotta call me. Oh, Bear Bear. Yeah, Bear bear.
Bobby Kelly
My bear bear.
Big Jay
This is Bear Bear. And I go, I'll roar.
RZA
Yes.
Bobby Kelly
It's gonna be. That's gonna be fun for an hour. And then we'll be like, look, we gotta get out of this.
Big Jay
It's totally fine. I will totally sit there with a leash on my neck tethered to you the entire show, you know.
Bobby Kelly
Perfect. That hair thing would fit on my bald head.
RZA
Yes.
Bobby Kelly
Oh, God. My. My God, it frames me in so nice.
Big Jay
I can't wait to see the appearance of Flamin Bob Dandy at the thing. Flamin Bob Dandy might be like one of the hits of the festival.
Bobby Kelly
Flamin Bob Danny in New Orleans. I should write a whole 5 minute set as Flaming Bob Dandy.
Big Jay
Please, please.
Bobby Kelly
Flamin Bob Dandy.
Big Jay
Oh, and we gotta find you a catchphrase. Like you gotta be like
Bobby Kelly
my catchphrase. Hey, guy. You know I'm saying I got a pop.
Big Jay
Flaming Bob Dandy.
Bobby Kelly
Fat robot. Really just still bugs me.
Big Jay
It should that you.
Bobby Kelly
That that was even considered Fat Bob.
Big Jay
It should be the reason that you think you and Christine will never be as close as you could have been.
Bobby Kelly
Yep, that's true.
Big Jay
Like there's always the sticking point will be that.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, bring up fucking blind old Bob Elixir Kelly. Bring up him.
Jacob
The point is though, with all these that Christine is the last. Yep, yep.
Bobby Kelly
You were there.
Jacob
What's the word I'm looking for?
Bobby Kelly
She's the.
Jacob
If. If it doesn't. If she's not there, this. This all gets through.
Bobby Kelly
No, but she's there. And it would have went through if I didn't go.
Christine
No, I sent the email that gave him the art.
Jacob
That's for the last line of defense. Was the word I was looking for.
Bobby Kelly
They.
Christine
They and I missed it.
Bobby Kelly
She's the. For me. She would be the last thing.
Christine
That's not the one you want.
Big Jay
They gave Bobby a plan B and a double sided dildo staff.
Christine
Yeah. That he's going to use on this screen.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah.
Big Jay
They gave me a job that doesn't look like that. It looks like he's a fucking weird gay priest who walks around the double sided dildo and what is the can?
Bobby Kelly
What am I holding?
Big Jay
You're gonna plan B. You're gonna give that girl plan B so she doesn't get pregnant.
Bobby Kelly
I'm 55. I'm not getting anybody pregnant. And if I do, they have a hair lip and a fucking sister on their back. Yeah, it's not happening.
Christine
That's why they want the plan B.
Bobby Kelly
You know what it is? They always make me into some gay guy too.
Big Jay
Someone.
Bobby Kelly
I have a. I have a like a hint of gay in everything they do.
Big Jay
I feel this with some people in my life. There's some people in my life, I feel this. Some people have it in for you.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah.
Big Jay
And they don't even know it.
Bobby Kelly
I think they do.
Big Jay
I don't know if they do. I think they're like, no, no, we're cool. But there's something. They have something.
Bobby Kelly
It's.
Big Jay
And I don't know, something about Lewis hires artists.
Bobby Kelly
Yep.
Big Jay
That got something with you now. They might just be reflecting Lewis's something with you.
Bobby Kelly
It's. It's. I. I guarantee there's some type of whisper in somebody's ear from Lou Dog that goes, hey, from the old Diggy make. Do me a favor. Make sure Bob's is up or fat or gay or something. Something like that. 100%.
Big Jay
Really?
Bobby Kelly
Yeah. Something, something. He whispers in there. Hey, do me a favor. Make mine look badass. Make Jay look awesome. Make skinny Dave look like a. A Navy seal and make Bobby look like a.
Big Jay
Do you think. You think it's because fat robot?
Jacob
No.
Big Jay
Do you think that's because you chatgpt the forward in his book that you wrote?
Bobby Kelly
First of all, I didn't chat GPT.
Big Jay
Yeah, we read that forward at the festival. It couldn't have been more like good guy. At one point I. I guessed the next line. Did you know that at one point I was reading along Bobby's Ford and he goes, he goes, Lewis is the kind of guy that doesn't like, you know, take no for an answer. And I was like the kind of guy that gets up in the morning and says, how are we gonna attack the day. And then the next line was like. And he does. He never stays down. He always gets up and. But I'm like, holy shit.
Bobby Kelly
Literally said the line verbatim.
Big Jay
Oh, I forgot. When they made Bobby a fucking. A twink alien.
Bobby Kelly
Can I just say something, though? There's no middle ground between fat robot and then this. There's no, like, hey, can you just make me. You didn't have to.
Big Jay
Why does he have dark nip spaghetti strap dress on?
Bobby Kelly
Because they. There's a conspiracy.
RZA
What do you mean?
Big Jay
Where. Where he's wearing a spaghetti strap dress with see through nipples.
Bobby Kelly
Right there.
Big Jay
You keep moving it.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, that.
Christine
This here.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah. Yes.
Christine
We talking about robot arc?
Bobby Kelly
No, those.
Big Jay
No, they're tattoos, first of all.
Bobby Kelly
That's like. I'm. You don't have to make me too skinny. You can make me in the middle. I'm in the middle. Skinny. I'm not skinny. I'm. I'm fine.
Big Jay
But why do you have to be gay or fat?
Bobby Kelly
Yeah,
Big Jay
Christine, why do you think the artist makes Bobby have to be gay or fat?
Bobby Kelly
Right in the middle?
Christine
And he hates this too.
Big Jay
What's in the middle?
Bobby Kelly
Well, first of all, okay, it is.
Big Jay
But again, you wouldn't be having any of this. This Bobby has no leg to stand on if they just did anything that would make the face look like Bobby Kelly instead of just basic bald guy. You can. Anyone could draw.
Bobby Kelly
It looks like I look like every Yankee fan ever.
Big Jay
Yes, exactly.
Bobby Kelly
That's what I look like.
Big Jay
A firefighter. You look just like a guy.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, I'm every.
Big Jay
It doesn't look like you, but there's. There's. There's enough uniqueness to Bobby's face to get his face.
Bobby Kelly
Thank you. I have uniqueness in my face.
Big Jay
All they got was the bags.
Bobby Kelly
And also. Can I just say something? You just made poo come out. That's how angry I don't want poo
Big Jay
to come out, buddy.
Bobby Kelly
Here's what bugs me too, is that everybody's jerseys. Like, if you look at Lev's, it's tight, it's fitted. They gave me. Look at my arm. Look how wrinkly I have nice shoulders, man. I have. If anything that I have that's good is my arms and my shoulders and my lips.
Big Jay
Wait, which picture are you talking about? Look at the one on the right.
Bobby Kelly
The one on the right. For this year's skank fest, they gave me some wrinkly, oversized jacket.
Christine
It is a distressed jacket.
Big Jay
No, Bobby, the jacket's cool.
Bobby Kelly
No, but look at my arms. Look at My arms, they could have tightened that up a little bit.
Big Jay
Look how broad your shoulder is, Bobby.
Jacob
You're a vampire hunter, not a fashion model.
Big Jay
No, the picture looks awesome. Except it's not you. It would be a cool character in a cartoon.
Bobby Kelly
But they made me the old vampire hunter who is helping the new vampire hunter become a vampire hunter by giving him elixirs. Yeah. I want you godfather. What?
Christine
You can't be the godfather and be a young buck.
Bobby Kelly
Well, make me.
Big Jay
Listen, Bobby, you used to be a double sided dildo carrying priest.
Christine
Yeah.
Big Jay
Who would give women abortion medicine. But.
Bobby Kelly
And don't forget the fat robot with saggy fucking pepperoni tits.
Big Jay
Right then though, you found your true calling in life. Elixir wielding vampire hunter.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, I don't get any of it. Now look, I'm not going to throw you under the bus here, okay? But every year your photos, as they should be, are fucking insane. There's no question you've never not looked better than
Big Jay
you actually look. For sure.
Bobby Kelly
You know what I'm saying? In these, when you have creative license, you can choose to do what you want. You don't have to make somebody.
Big Jay
Oh, that sucks.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, that one's not good.
Jacob
Terrible.
Bobby Kelly
That one's. That was.
Big Jay
It's actually using one of my worst pictures too. That was just taken by some guy that. Some guy that. Chris Italia.
Bobby Kelly
I'd rather be going to do your
Big Jay
head ch for you.
Bobby Kelly
Bob Dandy looks way better than Bob Dandy looks.
Christine
Jay was kind of a fat robot too.
Bobby Kelly
Where they made you a fat astronaut.
Big Jay
Yeah, I was a fatronaut. Yeah.
Bobby Kelly
They really did give you a triple X spacesuit.
Christine
I think he just posted it me.
Big Jay
Oh, yeah. I don't.
Christine
Or maybe we had it redone. I don't know.
Jacob
I will say as a vampire, a
Christine
lot on me
Jacob
if we're going with vampire lore, a vampire hunter. Elixirs are completely useless, so it doesn't make any sense.
Bobby Kelly
Doesn't make sense. You use elixirs on who?
Big Jay
Who?
Bobby Kelly
Witches. Witches.
Big Jay
How can we never get a picture of the bonfire crew in a thing?
Bobby Kelly
That'd be a good one.
Big Jay
The bonfires there.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah. How can we do that? We have Jacob. Jacob could be a little cat.
Christine
We don't really do them for the podcasts and radio shows, but we can.
Big Jay
You have no respect for performers though. They're performing at the show.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, they are. And you're part of the show and it's part of your crew. There's never been a bonfire skank fest photo that we could have ever once
Christine
Ask Lewis about it.
Big Jay
Do you think it's. Cause there's not enough room next to Bobby and me's fat robot to fit the rest of the crew? Because I would argue, I would understand the real estate on a tapestry that big would be a lot.
Christine
I came across an awesome Jacob picture from Skankfest. I sent it to him.
Bobby Kelly
He didn't even say anything. First of all, you don't. Do you have to run by every. You guys run the festival. Can we just be honest about that? You run it. You and Becca, Rebecca run it. Christine.
Christine
No, you have to ask Lewis.
Bobby Kelly
Everything. Yeah, everything goes by you, Louis. Wow. Jesus Christ. I'd watch out for both of them. I'd watch out for both of them.
Christine
Well, me and Lewis will say Rebecca. They'll say Christine. Me and Rebecca will say Louis. It just goes around and around, all right?
Big Jay
Until nobody answers your question.
Bobby Kelly
Unbelievable. Well, I just want it tightened up, that's all. I just want a tighter jacket and I want to weapon.
Christine
I told you, you're going for the lead filter.
Big Jay
And also because I don't think Christine understands right now, can you make it, for Christ's sakes, a little bit taller? Look how tall Bobby is.
Bobby Kelly
I mean, come on.
Big Jay
Come on.
Christine
He's almost touching.
Big Jay
Go stand next to Bobby and let him dominate.
Christine
I don't want to upset.
Big Jay
Let him dominate. You fucking physically get over there and be dominated.
Bobby Kelly
Kids, come on. Come here, my little guys.
Jacob
This is all a lot.
Bobby Kelly
Guys.
Big Jay
Look at this teeny little crew.
Bobby Kelly
Come stand next to Gulliver.
Christine
Am I the same height?
Bobby Kelly
No, put your arm down.
Big Jay
Stop trying to get up here.
Bobby Kelly
Jacob.
Jacob
Look at.
Bobby Kelly
Look at all these little guys. Look at.
Big Jay
All right, Christine, you might want to dip down a little tiny bit because you are towering over Bobby high heels on. Right. She did say that. So. So if you could, like, if you could. If you could kneel down. You kneel down about, I don't know, a foot. Oh, my God, he's bul. They're bul. Bobby right out of the. Christine showed her head over Bobby's head.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah,
Jacob
well, only reason you get any ass is cuz you tall.
Bobby Kelly
I.
Big Jay
It's cuz you tall.
Bobby Kelly
I'm taking Max. I'm taking Max in June. Uh, primitive camp camping.
Big Jay
Oh, yeah.
Bobby Kelly
We're gonna go up the mountain and you find a spot and you make camp and, you know. No, nothing.
Big Jay
Right. Take a woman, make her yours.
Bobby Kelly
Oh, no, there's no women. It's just me and Max.
Big Jay
Use her to breed.
Bobby Kelly
But I said, hey, maybe Ari will bring Ari. And he goes, this is what Max said. He goes, yeah, I'd love that, but he's probably going to show us his penis.
Big Jay
Yeah, that's what Max has.
Bobby Kelly
I was like, yeah, you're probably right, buddy.
Big Jay
Man, Uncle Ari's known, huh? Yeah, Uncle Hari is known. What is this first thing? Christine, you got a wiener in the email this morning.
Bobby Kelly
Oh, my God.
Christine
Yeah. Or the guy messaged me something else and I just saw it, but I just sent to the group. I used to tweet them, but since you called out to have people send them to me, it feels bad. So I just sent him to the group.
Bobby Kelly
Sitting there, having coffee with Don, talking about our day. All of a sudden this thing flops out of my throat.
Big Jay
I didn't see it.
Bobby Kelly
Oh, my God.
Christine
I said, if I get dick pics, we all get dick pics.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, well, thank you very much.
Christine
You're welcome.
Bobby Kelly
Really?
Christine
I think it's a video doesn't flop around.
Bobby Kelly
I didn't push the. I didn't push the button. I'm not gonna push the button.
Big Jay
We can't bring it up here to see it.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, you can bring it up.
Jacob
How can a penis be that big?
Big Jay
I just see a flop around penis. Are you saying you sent it to the group? Because you're like, if I have to deal with it, you have to deal with it. Do you hate dick pics?
Bobby Kelly
Oh, God, I guess.
Big Jay
Depends.
Christine
It depends. Listen, if they're solicited or I want them, that's nice, but that. I'm like, do I not like dicks?
Big Jay
Let me see.
Bobby Kelly
That's pretty.
Christine
I thought I liked dicks, but what does it say? He's annoying me.
Big Jay
I'm a huge fan of you and the bonfire. That's got a massive cock.
Bobby Kelly
It's a massive cock and it has pretty. Has like. It's too big.
Big Jay
Sure.
Bobby Kelly
Too big.
Big Jay
Yeah, I'll accept that.
Bobby Kelly
It's too big. And he's very thin. It's.
Christine
It's.
Bobby Kelly
It's actually.
Big Jay
But this upsetting Christine is what? Surprised. Not upsetting you. But everyone's gotta deal with. Oh, no, no. But you're sharing it with like a. If I have to deal with. Everyone's got to deal with. Not like, check out this huge, awesome dick.
Christine
Yes.
Big Jay
That's not what you're doing.
Christine
No, I'm sending it like, hey, guys, I don't know if that dick's gonna make anyone's day.
Big Jay
You did know that. You did know it would make my day.
Christine
I mean, except for my own boyfriend,
Jacob
but the Rest of know, he's a size king.
Christine
I know Jay likes a nice swinging dick.
Bobby Kelly
He does. Jay loves a nice swinging dick.
Big Jay
Yeah, that's true.
Bobby Kelly
This guy, though, he looks. He looks very. Here's the thing with this dick. It's. It's perception, right? It's perspective.
Christine
I don't know about that.
Bobby Kelly
I'm just trying. I'm just trying to come up with excuses.
Christine
I think it's, like, hitting his.
Big Jay
Is it on the screen yet?
Bobby Kelly
It's hitting his.
Christine
No, I have to. I have to find it on my.
Bobby Kelly
He's. He's a real thin, thin guy and he's. He seems small.
Jacob
He seems.
Big Jay
Whatever you gotta tell yourself, dude. Yeah, my dick would probably look like that on that body.
Bobby Kelly
I mean. I mean. No, this is. I mean, it has. This is why the swing has three different swings. It has shaft swing, mid swing, and then tip swing.
Big Jay
Oh, it's literally whipping.
Bobby Kelly
It's going in three different directions on the swing.
Big Jay
Or is it just doing that move? Like. Like, if you give me a pencil, I can do it where the pencil's going floppy, but it's not. It's optical illusion.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, the. Yeah. Dude, this thing is Christine.
Big Jay
Why am I not looking at this copy?
Christine
Because I don't know my Instagram password. I'm trying to figure it out.
Bobby Kelly
Doesn't know their Instagram. It's swinging dick. One, two, three. I love Cox.
Big Jay
I love Cox 69.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah.
Big Jay
You know how much I love Cox 69?
Bobby Kelly
It's so easy, though, to send that pic. Like, if I was to send a pic to Christine of my penis, that's taking a risk. That's taking a chance.
Big Jay
High risk.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah. This guy. Low risk.
Big Jay
Extremely low risk.
Bobby Kelly
Low risk. Big.
Big Jay
I just thought this would be something that Christine would go, oh, nice. A guy wanted me to see his big, huge cock.
Bobby Kelly
Like, if I sent the. If I was naked in the camera and I pushed my belly button and then my penis popped out like a mushroom, that's a risk, dude.
Big Jay
I get DMs sometimes and it's just. It's a guy being like, hey, look, here's a video of me and my chick and she's sucking my dickers. I'm like, great.
Bobby Kelly
I get none of that.
Big Jay
It's not all the time. And of any stretch or just like a random girl, it's like, I know you like naked pictures, so here's a naked picture, and it could be from an abominably terrible looking person. And I still go, oh, though. But hey, hey, can I just say you tried.
Bobby Kelly
Can I say something real quick?
Big Jay
Yeah.
Bobby Kelly
I love naked pictures.
Big Jay
Well, you gotta say that more.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, but people are sending me. Dude, this cigar is great. Have you tried it?
Big Jay
Okay, here's a new watch. Yeah, I mean, my wife's really hot, by the way.
Jacob
Gentlemen are emailing you.
Big Jay
He's like. He's like. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go send Jay a picture of my wife's asshole. Hey, here's a new watch I just picked up. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go. My wife's gonna go take a piss on camera for Jay.
Bobby Kelly
I want some titty pics. I want some gash.
Big Jay
Save your tits. Straight gash for this guy. Hard fat wang for Christine.
Bobby Kelly
And big floppers. Big floppers for Kelly to Dandy Bob.
Big Jay
Yeah, I'm pussy butthole. Bobby's tits. Christine's wang and boy butt and man asses also. You can just send Christine. She seems to be upset by your dick pics, so I guess start just sending your asses. Yeah, but send it male asses.
Bobby Kelly
Make sure you spread it open as far as you can. She likes to see deep inside.
Big Jay
Christine, in hindsight, would you prefer male asses or dick pics?
Christine
Dick pics.
Big Jay
Okay, well, I guess keep it to dick pics then, fellas, for shits and giggles.
Bobby Kelly
If you feel like it's though.
Big Jay
What? No one's curious about somebody's ass, but we're all curious about their dicks.
Jacob
She said, I don't want dick pics, but now she's saying I take it over an ass.
Big Jay
Just trying to look good in the eyes of God.
Jacob
But an ass pick is like asshole pick.
Christine
Jacob, not ass.
Jacob
No, he said ass pick.
Big Jay
Bobby said spread open.
Bobby Kelly
I suppose. Spread. I mean, you're gonna send a pic. You don't send just the ass pick, stupid.
Big Jay
What are you gonna do?
Bobby Kelly
Take your thumb and your index and open it up and then actually do like a puppet show.
Big Jay
Hey, Christine, how are you? Yeah, do it until those fucking. Those road lines are fucking flat. Gotcha.
Christine
Spread. Assholes are for gay men.
Big Jay
Yeah, that's.
Christine
Who wants to see that?
Big Jay
Also, Cox are, too. But Christine likes cocks like a gay man.
Bobby Kelly
Did you get that, Lou? Pretty sure it's clean.
Jacob
Oh, man.
Bobby Kelly
Thank God.
Christine
Finger my ass. That's for love. It's edited. Oh, yeah. You can't do shit,
Big Jay
Christine. How long do I have to sit here not looking at this guy's cock?
Christine
You saw it. I'm trying. I can't.
Big Jay
I feel like Rebecca would have Enjoyed that penis picture more than Christine did. Luckily. Luckily, that guy had me in his life to make him feel good about that fucking dong.
Christine
Hey, I sent it to you and you didn't even respond.
Big Jay
I don't.
Christine
You're too busy to look at the bonfire group text.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah. You really don't.
Big Jay
No, I do when I can.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, no, you don't.
Christine
You're missing dongs.
Bobby Kelly
You're missing dongs.
Big Jay
I am upset I missed that dong.
Bobby Kelly
You're missing dogs.
Big Jay
But I was happy to see it for the first time with you as a team. Is it nice to watch somebody open a present in front of you? The joy of giving the gift is that watching the person enjoy it.
Bobby Kelly
You know what? It does suck. I came in knowing what it was. Yeah, I wish I saw it already.
Big Jay
You already made your peace with it. You already, you know, you feel like, all right, that exists. I'm gonna meet this guy at a show and know that I'm shaking hands with a man who has a three times the size car.
Bobby Kelly
I had to open in front of dawn to pretend I wasn't fascinated.
Big Jay
I gotta tell Christina to stop doing this. I'm gonna go in the other room and text her.
Christine
I guess if anyone wants their, you know, dick to be admired by Jay, send them my way.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, yeah. And if you have any boobs, please stop sending them to Jay and send them to me.
Big Jay
I just want pussy and asshole.
Bobby Kelly
Jay.
Big Jay
Jay. Only, like, just right down the barrel. Right down the double barrel.
Christine
It's not butthole. Keep it.
Big Jay
What a fun show. What a funsy one is.
Bobby Kelly
Are we done?
Big Jay
Yeah, buddy.
Bobby Kelly
Get the.
Big Jay
We are done. Well, we're done for the day.
Bobby Kelly
We're done for the day.
Big Jay
We're done for the show.
Bobby Kelly
The man says we're done. We're done, Lou.
Big Jay
We're done.
Bobby Kelly
You know what? You are the man. You are the man.
Big Jay
Bobby Kelly's gonna be at Hilarities in Cleveland, Ohio, May 15th and 16th. Stanford, Connecticut on May 21st. And after that, New Orleans, Mobile, Alabama, Long Island, Austin, Texas. All on deck.
Bobby Kelly
I should do a Dandy Bob tour while I'm in. When I'm down in New Orleans.
Big Jay
Yeah, test run it. Test run. Dandy. Flaming Bob. Dandy for tickets. And all of his tour hits go to punch up dot live. Robert Kelly, his YouTube page at Robert Kelly Comedy. And of course, like Clockwork, every Tuesday night. Not this last Tuesday night, no. But every other Tuesday night, 7:00pm, the Fat Black Pussycat Lounge at the Comedy Cellar.
Bobby Kelly
And Big J, he's going Comedy Connection. In Providence this weekend, one of my favorite clubs. He's gonna be there this weekend, April 30th through the 2nd, right. And then after that, he's gonna be in Los Angeles for Story wars. And he's got a show out there, too. He's gonna be doing a lot of stuff out there for Netflix is a joke fest. And he's heading back to Austin after that. For tickets and tour dates, go to bigjaycomedy.com YouTube.com bigjokerson for his live show and a special. And make sure you send those butt pics. Send them all over. Puss in butt. Puss and butt.
Big Jay
Puss and butt. Well, pussy, butthole, titties. To Bobby.
Bobby Kelly
Yep.
Big Jay
Your big, huge, fat monster cocks. Christine.
Bobby Kelly
And all of the above to Jake.
Big Jay
And flood Jacob with all of those.
Bobby Kelly
Flood it.
Christine
Siriusxn.com and make sure you do this.
Bobby Kelly
Skankfest New Orleans, November 13th through the 15th Mardi Gras World badges are on sale right now. It's going to sell out. So please go to skankfest.com and get your tickets right now. It's going to be epic.
Big Jay
It's going to be epic. And also, of course, keep reminding you, Ari Shafir's new storytelling show. He did the coolest thing with the show. Just the way he's like, making it with all the comics are involved, everyone promotes it, everyone making money off it. He's the right thing. He's. He's fucking awesome. His new storytelling show, the End, is currently out $6 an episode. You could buy them all in one shot for 30 bucks.
Bobby Kelly
Seven seats. Seven. Seven.
Big Jay
Seven episodes.
Bobby Kelly
Seven episodes. It is probably the. I can't believe the comics he's got on this. All your favorite comics. They're all. I would say, how would she put it? Shock comics.
Big Jay
Shock comedians.
Bobby Kelly
Shock comedians.
Big Jay
It's almost exclusively shock comedians.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, it's all shock comedians.
Big Jay
So that's not your. If you're looking for a Lenny Marcus, you're not gonna find it.
Bobby Kelly
No, you're not. It is unbelievable.
Big Jay
Also, if you're looking for a Louis J. Gomez, you're not gonna find it. Oh, it's been a real point of contention. We'll catch you guys next. Oh, I won't be here next week.
Bobby Kelly
You won't be here.
RZA
Oh, I love you.
Big Jay
I'm gonna be calling in, though.
Bobby Kelly
Yeah, calling in. Colin Quinn's come in. We got Rich Voss. We got some special guests. So it's. We'll hold down the fort.
Big Jay
I'll be giving you live up updates from Netflix and we're gonna be off the week after that.
Bobby Kelly
We're off the week.
Big Jay
Oh, and then we're back. Yeah.
Bobby Kelly
And then we're back.
Big Jay
Yeah.
Bobby Kelly
Have a great weekend, guys.
Big Jay
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Episode: "One Spoon of RZA"
Date: May 8, 2026
This episode of The Bonfire takes on a high-energy, irreverent tone as comedians Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly host an in-studio interview with hip hop legend and filmmaker RZA. The show blends riff-heavy behind-the-scenes anecdotes, a thorough discussion of RZA’s new revenge thriller "One Spoon of Chocolate," and laugh-out-loud moments among the Bonfire crew. The hosts tackle everything from film references and uncomfortable race conversations to crowd dynamics at concerts and the age-old comic struggle: who gets recognized on the street.
Timestamps: 01:01 – 04:27
"What if he turns on us hard? We'll throw Jacob at him. And then we run."
– Bobby (01:21)
Timestamps: 04:27 – 23:04
"As a filmmaker, my goal is to hit every emotion, bro... I want you to go to the theater. I want something to happen while you're watching."
– RZA (10:10)
Timestamps: 07:04 – 20:40
"We had to have HR, like, prepare everybody... an N-word pep talk."
– RZA (18:56)
Timestamps: 15:13 – 17:57
"In order to become platinum, you need some white brothers."
– RZA (16:06)
Timestamps: 32:14 – 41:16
"Today hurt extra bad. And it bugged me too, because...I kept...inching, like, closing. So I'd be like, dude, he's not realizing we're almost eye to eye right now."
– Bobby (35:19)
Timestamps: 41:16 – 53:24
"That's a space microphone for your space tits. I always forgot about your giant space flap tits."
– Big Jay (42:01)
Timestamps: 55:03 – 62:38
"If I get dick pics, we all get dick pics."
– Christine (55:37)
Timestamps: 62:43 – End
"These characters here in our film, hopefully, there’s not an ounce of these motherfuckers in you...Fuck it, yo." (09:10–09:24)
"He only plays the guitar with a bow. So all those sounds you hear in that movie, bro, he's bowing the guitar through some foot pedal." — RZA (24:01)
"If you know him, you should at least know who I am...Not even from the Bonfire, just from the history of New York comedians." — Bobby (37:15)
"If I get dick pics, we all get dick pics." (55:37)
"In order to become platinum, you need some white brothers." — RZA (16:06)
"I'm making it. Flamin Bob Dandy's coming." — Bobby (43:34)
| Segment | Timestamps | |-------------------------------------- |--------------| | Setting the scene, movie premiere | 01:01–04:27 | | RZA interview, film discussion | 04:27–23:04 | | Casting, Tarantino talk, HR stories | 07:04–23:44 | | Audience, Wu-Tang, crowds, race talk | 15:13–17:57 | | Street recognition bit | 32:14–41:16 | | Skankfest art, Flaming Bob Dandy | 41:16–53:24 | | Listener submissions/dick pic riffing | 55:03–62:38 | | Wrap-up, plugs, crew chatter | 62:43–end |
"One Spoon of RZA" is a quintessential Bonfire episode: a rapid-fire blend of behind-the-scenes comedy, no-filter cultural discussion, and genuine appreciation for their guests and listeners. The RZA interview is equal parts hilarious, insightful, and affectionate—a love letter to old-school genre filmmaking, artistic risk-taking, and the wild community that surrounds The Bonfire. The second half is pure Bonfire chaos: inside jokes, festival planning, and NSFW fan interaction—reminding listeners why this show remains a staple for comedy insiders and fans alike.