Reptilians w/Ari Shaffir & Dan St Germain

Summary

The Bonfire w/ Big Jay Oakerson & Robert Kelly

Episode: Reptilians w/Ari Shaffir & Dan St Germain
Date: June 11, 2026

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Episode Overview

This lively episode of The Bonfire is packed with the show's trademark blend of blunt, playful stand-up comic banter, comedy-scene gossip, pop culture roasting, and personal stories. Jay and Bobby are joined by Ari Shaffir, Sean Donnelly, and Dan St. Germain for a loose, joke-heavy hang, riffing on everything from aliens and conspiracy theories to writer’s rooms in comedy, roast battle war stories, and notorious wild tales involving comedians.

A key thread is the loose theme of conspiracy, alien skepticism, and "reptilian" humor—used more as a device for ribbing Ari Shaffir and the guests than a literal exploration of lizard people. Other recurring bits include who’s "really an alien," odd product reviews, roast joke origins, and notorious comics behaving badly.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Ari Shaffir: “Alien” or Just Odd?

(Start ~01:12)

• Bobby teases Ari for his anti-alien stance, suggesting “maybe I do believe, but I want it silenced” (Ari Shaffir, 01:44).
• The crew riff on Ari’s mysterious absences—joking he goes “back to your planet for 8 months” (Bobby, 01:52).
• Lighthearted speculation about which comics are secretly lizard people sets the goofy, skeptical tone for the episode.

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2. Product Demo: “Grape” Breath Freshener and Comedy Product Addictions

(02:19–04:00)

• Jay, Bobby, and Ari try Bobby’s grape “nano breath device.” Mixed reactions abound:
  • “It actually burns a little. Great. I think it’s doing something bad.” (Jay, 02:54)
  • “It’s fresh ... it’s called mint ...” (Bobby, 03:36)
• Bobby confesses: “I'm a gift giver... My addiction isn't just for me, bro.” (Bobby, 03:19)
• A mini-debate erupts over whether the burning is hypochondria or something actually wrong.

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3. Gout: Comedy’s King’s Disease

(04:36–05:45)

• Ari brings up Ian Fidance’s (another comedian) gout, riffing on the “King’s disease” myth and dietary causes:
  • “You get it from eating too much organ meat.” (Ari, 05:13)
  • “Salty cock’ll give you gout.” (Bobby, 05:26)

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4. Roast Comedy: The Kevin Hart Roast Writers Room

(15:09–22:34)

• Dan St. Germain and Sean Donnelly share stories about the Kevin Hart roast:
  • Discussions about writers’ diversity (“I talked to all the writers... All white.” – Naeem’s quote, relayed by Jay, 15:26)
  • Disputes over who wrote the best roast jokes, how each comic approaches their writing, and stories of chaotic bit notes:
    • “Jay wrote them, it was like a schizophrenic shopping list ... circles, scratches ... FBI had to analyze it.” (Sean, 21:25)
  • Revealing The Rock’s showbiz performance in writers’ meetings: “when we’re pitching him, he’s, like, doing the People’s Elbow stuff” (Sean, 19:55)
• Nostalgia for old-school comics who wrote punchlines in code, sketches, or chaos.
• Roast joke favorites:
  • “He’s in the Epstein files for actual pizza.” (Sean, 18:15)
  • “Lizzo looks like the final boss of a Red Lobster video game.” (Sean, 18:23)

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5. Crack Amigo’s Opie Diss Track Debut

(10:14–11:16)

• Jay introduces Crack Amigo’s “fan-funded” diss track targeting Opie from “Opie & Anthony,” playing a large chunk:
  • “The fans hate you so much that I got paid for what’s coming out of my mouth ... From a shock jockey to a lowcal ... Only Jesus knows what’s happening behind them walls...” (Crack Amigo; sample lyrics, 10:14–11:16)
• Jay, Bobby, and Ari praise Crack Amigo’s satirical comedy-rap work, comparing it with other underground comedy doc-makers (Red Bar, etc.).
• Reflection: “I get more honored by stuff than other people ... people are like, yeah, well it’s kind of shitting on you. I go, yeah, but he made the whole thing!” (Jay, 06:33)
• They riff on inside comedy rap feuds and internet comedy fandom, connecting back to their early career days.

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6. Gambling, Scams, and Club Stories

(26:42–33:27)

• Jay and Ari share stories about Lewis J. Gomez’s bad gambling bets: “He’s sitting on her hundred [dollars], she gave you on a whim.” (Jay, 29:17)
• Jay’s cautionary tale about selling “lifetime gym memberships” during a lean period (“There’s no such thing as a lifetime membership for $150!” – Jay, 31:02)
• Discussion about “all you can eat” scams, including Patrice O’Neal shutting down a Vegas sushi place:
  • “You can’t get more unless that plate empty…you just made that up.” (Bobby, 33:08)
• Bobby recounts a time he and Patrice unknowingly recreated a famous John Pinette bit.

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7. Stand-Up’s “Rite of Passage” and Comedy’s Changing Landscape

(53:44–56:04)

• Discussion on old vs. new ways to break into stand-up; expressing concern about the current rush for viral moments or “Kill Tony”–style platforms replacing “just hanging out, getting good”:
  • “Back then, you just did stand up until you headlined” (Bobby, 54:43)
  • “You’re only as motivated as the opportunities…There wasn’t a thing of every night you can put up your set and clips.” (Jay, 54:55)

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8. “Electric Collar Comedy” – Legion of Skanks Talent Show Controversy

(~41:52–53:19)

• Jay and crew review a Reddit post accusing Legion of Skanks of nearly killing an open mic contestant by shocking someone with a heart condition:
  • “I watched Legion of Skanks literally torture people with shock collars last [night]…I watched someone almost die... It's not in the news, but what the fuck?” (Redditor, 44:41)
• Jay and Bobby break down what did and didn’t actually happen—emphasizing comic consent (“Everybody signed everything!” – Jay, 42:36) and joking about the absurd inside-baseball politics of stand-up event organizing.
  • “They wanted to get done the meeting quick ... just have them fight at the stand. I go, there’s a girl and a trans, you see if that works out... But we can't do this at the Stand!” (Jay, 51:17)
• Laughter at how worshipped “club meetings” and “pivoting to electric collars” are now a thing in showbiz.

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9. Infamous Comic Behavior & Disillusionment with Fame

(58:58–61:38)

• Behind the scenes with comics who “behaved badly”:
  • Chris Kattan: stories about addiction, missed gigs, unpredictable behavior (“He was just trying to get pills…he wasn’t there, wasn’t at the hotel…just showed up back in LA somehow.” 58:58)
  • Gilbert Gottfried: bombing, massive food orders, taking food to a hotel with no fridge. (Bobby, 59:57)
• Jay reflects on early encounters with famous (and troubled) comics, learning “they’re real people with real problems.”

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• “Maybe I do believe [in aliens]. But I want it silenced.” — Ari Shaffir (01:44)
• “I think Ari’s actually an alien. That’s why you’re so strong against it.” — Bobby Kelly (01:49)
• “You get gout from eating too much organ meat... or salty cock.” — Bobby Kelly (05:26)
• “He’s in the Epstein files for actual pizza.” — Sean Donnelly, on a roast joke (18:15)
• “Jay wrote them, it was like a schizophrenic shopping list — circles, scratches, FBI had to analyze it.” — Sean Donnelly (21:25)
• Crack Amigo’s Opie diss: “From a shock jockey to a lowcal… Millionaire taking superchats just to ring out the remnants of his OnlyFans…” (10:14–11:16)
• “Comics used to just hang around and wait for someone to no-show; now it’s, ‘Dude, put this on, you got a heart condition, think about it!’” — Bobby Kelly (53:47)
• “You’re only as much as you’re… motivated as the opportunities that are available at the time.” — Big Jay Oakerson (54:55)
• On comedy’s changing rites of passage: “We did have the table though. You did have to run the gauntlet of that fucking night.” — Bobby Kelly (55:21)
• “It’s Animal House table now. We interrupt the young Black people talking about young Black people things.” — Big Jay Oakerson (56:25)

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Notable Guests' Projects & Plugs

• Burbs Bros podcast: “Dan St. Germain and Sean Donnelly—check out their Patreon and YouTube.” (Jay, 62:25)
• Ari Shaffir's new storytelling show “The End”: Out now, “Order now, arishafir.com, it’s really funny.” (Bobby, 62:33)

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Important Timestamps

• 01:12 – Episode cold open; “Ari the alien” joke series
• 02:19–04:00 – Product trial: grape nano breath device
• 04:36–05:45 – Comedy’s “gout” discussion
• 10:14–11:16 – Crack Amigo’s Opie diss track debut and reactions
• 15:09–22:34 – Kevin Hart roast: writers room, joke origins, showbiz behind-the-scenes
• 26:42–33:27 – Stories of gambling, lifetime club scams, Patrice O’Neal sushi buffets
• 41:52–53:19 – Legion of Skanks shock collar show discussion, Reddit drama, inside baseball of comedy event “pivots”
• 53:44–56:04 – Old-school vs new-school comedy career rites
• 58:58–61:38 – Shocking stories of comics “behaving badly,” legendary letdowns

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Episode Tone & Language

The tone is loose, irreverent, quick-jabbed, and extremely candid—insult humor and behind-the-scenes camaraderie abound. Nothing is sacred, and self-deprecation rules. Language is direct, pushing boundaries but always in the context of the comics’ decades-long friendship and the expectations of a comedy “green room.”

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Overall Summary

If you enjoy the inside baseball of standup, raunchy industry stories, and comics roasting each other (and themselves), this episode delivers in spades. While the “reptilian” theme mostly serves as a running joke, the main course is always the interplay of sagely irreverent veteran comics who have seen it all—and still can’t believe it most of the time.

Whether breaking down the absurdity of club shows or revisiting old writing table rituals, Jay, Bobby, and company offer both a backstage pass to the comedy world and a brash, cathartic group therapy session for fans and comics alike.

Transcript

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[Sean Donnelly]

And now the bonfire with Big J Okerson and Robert Kelly.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, we got a fun day today

[Bobby Kelly]

oh, what a fun day we got

[Big J Okerson]

a fun day today we got. Well, we got a fun day today.

[Bobby Kelly]

Look at him. He's giving. He's giving Jacob a big, big.

[Big J Okerson]

He's got a bun.

[Bobby Kelly]

Give him a kiss.

[Big J Okerson]

Two state solution. He's calling for it. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry, Bobby. I'm gonna jump because then, well, we'll have Dan here. I'm gonna leave, and then.

[Bobby Kelly]

You're not gonna put him.

[Ari Shaffir]

Idiots.

[Bobby Kelly]

Sit down. What'd you say?

[Ari Shaffir]

I can't stay with those guys.

[Bobby Kelly]

Why?

[Ari Shaffir]

I don't stand for what they stand for. Aliens.

[Big J Okerson]

Alien bullshit.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

Ari's like me. He doesn't believe either.

[Ari Shaffir]

I don't believe it. I don't like it. It's worse than that. Maybe I do believe. But I want it silenced.

[Bobby Kelly]

I have a theory that Ari's actually an alien.

[Ari Shaffir]

Ooh.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah. That's why you're so strong against it. Because all the weird shit you do and the way you look and the thing you have to. You didn't go eight months away. You went back to your planet for eight months.

[Ari Shaffir]

Bobby, I'm gonna talk to you after the show.

[Bobby Kelly]

Whoa.

[Ari Shaffir]

I got a device I want you to see. I know you're a big gadget guy. I want you to look directly into this new device.

[Bobby Kelly]

Dude, I. I'm just. I. I don't know nothing.

[Ari Shaffir]

No, Bobby, it's happening.

[Big J Okerson]

Forget everything you've heard. It is the bonfire. Faction talk. SiriusXM103. I'm Big J Okerson. Never the small one. Clocket. Pitch that over there. Freshening his breath with my new device. With his new nano breath device.

[Bobby Kelly]

I put a new one in. It's grape.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah, should be some grape. Ari doesn't know how it works. I'm sitting in with us. Everybody back from the jungles. He is here. Yeah. Suck it in. Give me a. Oh, God.

[Ari Shaffir]

What is this?

[Big J Okerson]

We're all taking a whack, dude. It's fucking cigar breath.

[Bobby Kelly]

Better.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, suck it.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah, Jacob.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, it's grape.

[Ari Shaffir]

Friendly like that.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, it's grape right there.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah, it's great.

[Big J Okerson]

Actually burns a little. Great. I think it's doing something bad.

[Bobby Kelly]

No, it's not.

[Big J Okerson]

It's bad for you.

[Ari Shaffir]

Is it vape?

[Bobby Kelly]

No, it's the new. It's a breath freshener thing for people who smoke weed or cigars or cigarettes. And it shoots it. It vapes it into the back of your mouth and all over your mouth.

[Ari Shaffir]

That's where the bag comes from.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

I do want one.

[Bobby Kelly]

I'm going to get you one.

[Big J Okerson]

Thank you.

[Bobby Kelly]

Done. You know what? I do? I'm a gift giver.

[Big J Okerson]

You are?

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah. My. My addiction isn't just for me, bro.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah, he needs to buy. But he has it.

[Big J Okerson]

Solution though, actually. I feel like something's wrong in the back of my throat.

[Bobby Kelly]

No, that's just your hypochondriac.

[Ari Shaffir]

I feel too.

[Bobby Kelly]

No, you don't.

[Ari Shaffir]

I feel. Yeah, there's like a burning.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, it's called mint. It's called fresh.

[Big J Okerson]

No, it's like a. Like a dull pain.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, because it goes in the back with the bacteria and with this bacteria it kills it. It's.

[Big J Okerson]

I don't think it kills bacteria.

[Bobby Kelly]

It's killing the. The shit in the back spray and

[Big J Okerson]

it's making the back of my throat hurt a lot. Am I allergic to this?

[Ari Shaffir]

I can.

[Bobby Kelly]

It's actually. That's gross. Sounds like you're finger banging somebody.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, my God.

[Ari Shaffir]

There's a real problem here.

[Big J Okerson]

Something bad's happening. We have an EpiPen. People are very upset right now.

[Ari Shaffir]

I can't help it.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah, you can.

[Bobby Kelly]

Just.

[Big J Okerson]

Did you try to kill two Jews? Oh, the water hurts my throat.

[Ari Shaffir]

It goes down smooth in a way I don't like.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, it hurts. I know the way you like it. I know. Type of smooth you like.

[Big J Okerson]

I hate this.

[Bobby Kelly]

He likes black smooth.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah. We have to hear. We have Sean Donnelly also and Dan St. Germain coming in.

[Ari Shaffir]

I'm just finding out right now that's not the same person who

[Big J Okerson]

you thought they were like a day night kind of thing?

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

Bruce Wayne, Batman.

[Ari Shaffir]

Which one has gout today?

[Big J Okerson]

Ian Finance. Somehow old, tiny. And finance has gout.

[Ari Shaffir]

I did look up for Ian Finance. Like, how do you get gout? I. I saw him and I was like, wa. The rich person's disease. He goes, no.

[Big J Okerson]

What?

[Ari Shaffir]

No, he's not the rich person's disease. King's disease. I said that? And I go. He goes, no way. And then I went to the seller, I saw Val there, and I was like, do you know about Ian? He goes, and she goes, yeah, I just told him it's the King's disease. And he said. And I saw him 10 minutes later. And I said the same thing, unrelated. And he acted like, I've never heard of that before.

[Big J Okerson]

That crazy thing that was said.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

He likes a fresh conversation. He likes to freshen it up.

[Big J Okerson]

He does wipe the slate clean when he walks away from everybody.

[Ari Shaffir]

He says, but it said, you get it from eating too much organ meat.

[Big J Okerson]

Really? Well, I've always heard. I heard it's just red meat and beer and shit.

[Bobby Kelly]

People don't know you get it when you have too much.

[Big J Okerson]

A salty.

[Bobby Kelly]

Sure, salty cock will give you gout. I had gout when I was around 18 for like two weeks.

[Big J Okerson]

This is the kind of stuff NPR won't tell you.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah, they refuse.

[Big J Okerson]

Thank you, Bobby.

[Ari Shaffir]

That's why I don't donate. Where's my tote bag?

[Big J Okerson]

Hey, this place.

[Ari Shaffir]

Where's my tote bag? That I do a care.

[Big J Okerson]

This place. Bobby, you wanted to hear. I said, I saw.

[Ari Shaffir]

We both have such soft hands. No work on our parts whatsoever.

[Big J Okerson]

Pretty funny. Crack Amigo did an Opie of Opie and Anthony disc today.

[Bobby Kelly]

Oh, yeah?

[Big J Okerson]

It's pretty good.

[Bobby Kelly]

I just outgate Ari, which is an achievement.

[Big J Okerson]

That's great.

[Bobby Kelly]

I feel proud of myself.

[Ari Shaffir]

I feel violated.

[Big J Okerson]

Well, he just came back from countries where they kill the gays. They don't celebrate them, so he can't have it on him. He's got a demon in him. Do you want to hear the Opie diss?

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, I do.

[Big J Okerson]

Before you said you wanted to hear it, but we had to start the show. So this is not us saying anything about it because I don't know Opie like that, but this song did make me laugh.

[Bobby Kelly]

I just want to say this before you play it. I just like Crack Amigos songs.

[Ari Shaffir]

Everything he does. Do you like the music?

[Bobby Kelly]

Everything he does is great.

[Big J Okerson]

He just happens to never attack us.

[Bobby Kelly]

I mean, that's why I'm saying this.

[Big J Okerson]

But I would also laugh if he made a song like making like a diss track. I'd laugh. My so good. I get more honored by stuff, I think than other people. People are like, yeah, well it's kind of shitting on you. I go, yeah. But he made the whole thing like ye.

[Bobby Kelly]

It was hard.

[Big J Okerson]

The whole thing. Joe Matarize. Joe Matarise for like a split second in time. Soda Joe Mataries for a split second in time. Got it for me. He was in his car doing one of those like freaking out about that red bar guy going at him.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

And he was in his car talk. And he just goes, you know what, dude, I gotta say something. That whatever guy, Tupac. No, no. Who was the one who made all the base frequency? Base frequency. Maybe. Was it him? Maybe one of the two. One of the two guys who. The big dogs were elephant grave. One of them. He goes, I gotta say, this guy makes fantastic documentaries. We make great. He made three parts of documentary about Joe Mat that are so concise and edited and narrated and the organization of the timeline.

[Bobby Kelly]

It's so we bonded over them.

[Big J Okerson]

We bought. Yeah, we had a real. That was a. I loved watching for

[Ari Shaffir]

us when we were up at summer. He would load one up. I'm like, never seen this before.

[Bobby Kelly]

Wow. We did tummy time for hours in his room in Montreal just watching.

[Big J Okerson]

Just tearing through the Joe Matarise files.

[Bobby Kelly]

I couldn't wait to get done with my shows. Just to get back to tummy time and watch the Joe Matarize files.

[Big J Okerson]

We had so much left. Yeah. I go, Bobby, this is just half of part one. There's three full parts.

[Ari Shaffir]

He had one on Bird and he said it was like coming next Monday. And I was like, call. Bart was like, how you feeling? He goes, I don't know. I mean you can't stop it. But it was actually pretty respectful.

[Bobby Kelly]

Was it red? Red. Was it red bar?

[Ari Shaffir]

No, that's a different one.

[Big J Okerson]

Red bars. This is the guys who make the document. Red bar just goes at us like in like video clips and everything. He does go at all.

[Bobby Kelly]

He went at me one time when I was doing the in the shed thing. Remember during the pandemic, Live from the shed. He. He went. He went back.

[Ari Shaffir]

He went, shed pounds.

[Bobby Kelly]

Wow, that was a good one.

[Ari Shaffir]

Double meaning on a compliment that he attacked me.

[Bobby Kelly]

But it was, it was. You can't help but laugh cuz he's say. He's stating the obvious of all the horseshit behind me that I had up all these stupid trinkets that I had behind Me? He's. What the. Is that. Why. Why would you have that? It's like. Yeah, you're right. You make a valid point.

[Big J Okerson]

Wow. Black Lewin out to go get Dan St. Germain, and then he mysteriously vanished. You think it's aliens?

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, maybe it's. Maybe it's.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah, maybe.

[Big J Okerson]

Sean's here. He's waiting for Dan St. Germain. Yeah, he's in the lobby right here.

[Ari Shaffir]

But both of them aren't.

[Bobby Kelly]

Will you stop that?

[Big J Okerson]

Huh? Somebody went take a Duke. For me to say. I don't know.

[Ari Shaffir]

You think they went to get barbecue? You think all three of them went to a local barbecue joint?

[Big J Okerson]

So Dan St. Germain went to take a Duke or Black Lou took a Duke? No, Lou didn't. It's not my place to say what people. She said it.

[Bobby Kelly]

Black Lou had a ticket. Poop.

[Big J Okerson]

No, it's not Lou film over the

[Ari Shaffir]

thing and they get banned from waiting for Dan.

[Big J Okerson]

And I think now Sean speaking about

[Bobby Kelly]

getting banned from serious. Let's play this clip.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah, The Opie song. What's the setup? I don't understand.

[Bobby Kelly]

We were talking about crack, amigo. And then I I Opie. He said he had one of Opie and I'd never seen it. So I want to see Cracker Migo

[Big J Okerson]

we've had on the show before. He makes like the. Not parody songs, but like the. Like the disrupts diss raps about our world.

[Bobby Kelly]

Is it a Jew thing or is it what?

[Big J Okerson]

Always having a bag of chips just

[Bobby Kelly]

going to make noise.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah, for sure. It's definitely Jewish. I'm not leaving anything alone. Leave it alone. Do what you want.

[Crack Amigo]

Tim came out in the closet. Ant started burning crosses. What's crazy is that Ant can drive a Shelby drunk and bite a ho. Dropping in a teens to somehow be more likable. More likable than you, at least. Plus, he's not who this song about. The fans hate you so much that I got paid for what's coming up out of my mouth. Would have never done this on my own. Dying for your old crimes. Look at you now. From a high model to a slap body. From a shock jockey to a low cal. And I would have thought by now that maybe you'd mellow out. Barking at Mike said like five in the morning. I think it's time to put this old yellow down. Had an obsession with being number one in radio. Wanted all of that power. If everybody call him Opie, Imma call him wrong Howard. Why the is comedian up in your bio? Gotta be a mistake, son. You could never Even take a joke, brother man. Let alone make like, holy ass.

[Big J Okerson]

What the F. Who the man? Not you, man.

[Crack Amigo]

Millionaire taking super chats just to ring out remnants of his only fans. A 69 year old man with a purple mouth. Greg, still got them sugar titties, sweetie. Pull them nurles out. Only Jesus knows what's happening behind them walls. Probably got that doggy licking peanut butter off his ball. Open up your soul and take it.

[Big J Okerson]

He exerts. He repeats the chorus. He's so good. I mean, he implies in the song that he was paid to make that by like people who don't like Opie.

[Sean Donnelly]

Wow.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah, he does. I wonder if it doesn't apply that.

[Big J Okerson]

I think he says it's implicit. I think I say. I'm saying the word implied when he just flat out said that he was paid to do it because he ever

[Bobby Kelly]

made an album, like a regular album.

[Jay]

This was a fan funded diss track.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah. Fan gave him 10 bucks and he did it.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah. He's so good. Has he ever made an album?

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, like a real rap.

[Big J Okerson]

Yes.

[Jay]

I know that because Crack Amico was like formed through Real Ass podcast, I think.

[Big J Okerson]

Right. It's cracking me. I don't know. I think he did do something where it wasn't just making jokes about the comics. But he's great.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, that's really good.

[Sean Donnelly]

Good.

[Big J Okerson]

He did it going back Trump. We watched too.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

It's like, stop tripping on Trump. But it's like the jokes, the joke's making fun of how bad Trump. Yeah, but it's just the whole thing.

[Ari Shaffir]

He got mushrooms legalized.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

So he's like. He's like, all right, Iran's a hiccup, but we got mushrooms.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

He goes, you're getting married to Benjamin and Netanyahu. But. But don't worry. Get mushrooms during the cere.

[Big J Okerson]

The homeless are everywhere and the ice promise. But he goes, listen, it's a hiccup.

[Ari Shaffir]

He's about to get back on the horse.

[Big J Okerson]

He goes, what? He had a couple of flub. He had a couple of missteps.

[Ari Shaffir]

Couple flubs. Yeah. He just keeps giving it up for him.

[Big J Okerson]

He's like, come on, man, let's give him a chance.

[Ari Shaffir]

We got mushrooms.

[Big J Okerson]

He's gonna turn it around. We have mushrooms now.

[Bobby Kelly]

What was the last one we watched of Chelsea Hammer? That one was good too.

[Ari Shaffir]

He made a Chelsea one?

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, it was really good.

[Big J Okerson]

He threw DL in for a second too. The thing he did with DL stuff was awesome. Is that, like, for his little chunkiness about DL, every Other word is dld. It starts with a dldl. Yeah. Pretty neat. He's level.

[Bobby Kelly]

You're real good.

[Big J Okerson]

Hi. Live.

[Bobby Kelly]

Where's he from? Philly?

[Big J Okerson]

No, North Carolina.

[Ari Shaffir]

Like, yeah, like tennis.

[Bobby Kelly]

What, you fart?

[Ari Shaffir]

No. You want me to?

[Commercial Announcer]

Nope.

[Ari Shaffir]

And then I won't.

[Bobby Kelly]

That's my game. My game.

[Big J Okerson]

Thank you.

[Bobby Kelly]

That's my thing.

[Ari Shaffir]

Take one last clean whiff.

[Big J Okerson]

Christine, you should know that Ari was in your office today.

[Ari Shaffir]

Christine, you shouldn't know. But actually you shouldn't know.

[Jay]

What did you do to my office?

[Ari Shaffir]

It's better than you don't know.

[Big J Okerson]

It is better.

[Jay]

It was filmed.

[Ari Shaffir]

What?

[Big J Okerson]

It was filmed.

[Ari Shaffir]

Then you'll see. Nothing of out of sort, nothing untoward.

[Big J Okerson]

Start texting Alex to. Hey, take that little section out, if you don't mind.

[Ari Shaffir]

I'm not some ne'.

[Bobby Kelly]

Er.

[Big J Okerson]

Do. Well,

[Ari Shaffir]

guys, you're all being cads to me right now.

[Big J Okerson]

He didn't touch anything he wasn't supposed to touch.

[Ari Shaffir]

I promise.

[Bobby Kelly]

It's so funny. When Ari's at your house, you really do have to get nervous where he is in the house.

[Ari Shaffir]

Remember I left a bottle, glass of piss in your fridge?

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, my God.

[Ari Shaffir]

Like my wife and child go into that fridge. I'm like, oh, yeah, I guess so.

[Bobby Kelly]

Max loves lemonade too.

[Big J Okerson]

Now we found out he loves piss.

[Bobby Kelly]

Easy.

[Ari Shaffir]

Well, well, well. One of the boys.

[Big J Okerson]

One of the boys.

[Bobby Kelly]

What's up, buddy?

[Ari Shaffir]

Fresh off the roast. Writing for everyone except Big J Okerson.

[Big J Okerson]

Everyone

[Sean Donnelly]

gave him.

[Ari Shaffir]

He said he's not taking jokes from whites or blacks.

[Big J Okerson]

I did get. We have Dan St. Germain joining.

[Sean Donnelly]

Hey, guys.

[Bobby Kelly]

What's up, buddy?

[Sean Donnelly]

How are you, Bob? You look great. Holy shit.

[Bobby Kelly]

Thank you, pal. Appreciate it.

[Sean Donnelly]

God damn. You got to get a tighter sweaters because I thought you were bigger.

[Bobby Kelly]

Tighter sweaters.

[Sean Donnelly]

Tighter sweaters. I thought you have more room because you were hiding something.

[Bobby Kelly]

I am still hiding stuff. That's why I didn't get the tighter sweater. Then you'd see it.

[Ari Shaffir]

He's hiding his cheapness. He didn't want to throw out sweaters

[Big J Okerson]

or have holes in them.

[Bobby Kelly]

I always keep a fat wardrobe just in case.

[Sean Donnelly]

Just a cape.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah. I have a fat suit in my closet just in case. And it's come in handy over the years, to be honest with you.

[Big J Okerson]

Dan is. Dan's coming off of yes, writing for the Kevin Hart roast where I gotta say, I saw Naim Lin. First person that gave me from the deus that said anything about me at all. It was the very end of his. He did a Breakfast Club.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

Did you see that.

[Sean Donnelly]

No. What did he say?

[Big J Okerson]

It's gone pretty viral. I think it's just him going on there. And he goes, yeah. You know, they were only showing the writers at one point for Shane. That's like, Shane's writers only. And Naeem was just like, no, no. I talked to all the writers over Netflix. All white.

[Sean Donnelly]

Was he joking?

[Big J Okerson]

No, he was like, all white.

[Sean Donnelly]

That's not true.

[Big J Okerson]

But they were talking about. He said that Chris Spencer and then Play the thing. Play the name on the Breakfast Club clip. He says that Chris Spencer and them were Kev's writers and that people can bring in their owners. But they said Netflix staff writers was all white.

[Sean Donnelly]

I don't think that's true.

[Big J Okerson]

I hope it is.

[Sean Donnelly]

I mean, I know two black writers that were there. I know Ian Edwards, and I forget the other guy. I'm blanking on the name. First time I met. Yeah. But I thought Ian was part of the show.

[Ari Shaffir]

But Ian has, like, manners, so it doesn't come off as black.

[Big J Okerson]

That's one way to look at it.

[Bobby Kelly]

Is Lou laughing? Yeah, I'm good. Yeah, that was a good one, dude.

[Sean Donnelly]

That's crazy.

[Big J Okerson]

But they were like, each person can bring in their own writers if they want.

[Ari Shaffir]

Right?

[Big J Okerson]

And there's Netflix fighters. And then the very. I mean, there's this much left. There's a smidge left of clip. And he goes. He's like. I think he goes, me and Big J Okerson, the only ones that write our own jokes. I was like, yes. It just goes to blank. I'm like, ooh. There's no reason.

[Bobby Kelly]

Kev mentioned you too, on Breakfast Club.

[Big J Okerson]

No, he didn't.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeri did.

[Sean Donnelly]

We were like, I can't believe he said this about the writers. And then he gives you one compliment, and you're like, yeah, forget it. Don't worry.

[Bobby Kelly]

He mentioned your name.

[Big J Okerson]

No, he didn't.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeri did.

[Big J Okerson]

Nope.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeri did.

[Ari Shaffir]

Bet $100 on it.

[Big J Okerson]

I'll bet you $100.

[Bobby Kelly]

Um, okay.

[Ari Shaffir]

Shake.

[Big J Okerson]

I don't.

[Bobby Kelly]

I can't reach.

[Ari Shaffir]

I know. That's why I want you to do it.

[Bobby Kelly]

I'll shake with you.

[Big J Okerson]

No, we'll do it. We'll do an emotional shake.

[Bobby Kelly]

We'll do a salute. There we go.

[Big J Okerson]

Emotionally, 100.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

What do you say?

[Bobby Kelly]

Mentioned your name. I didn't say. He didn't say you were great. He just.

[Big J Okerson]

Ouch.

[Bobby Kelly]

I mean, listen, I said. He mentioned your name.

[Ari Shaffir]

Said. He mentioned.

[Big J Okerson]

Because there was a bunch of useless white up there. Big James.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

Because he was given the list. He said this one. That one. Then at another point, he said, big J Okerson. He said your name, which I thought was cool.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, it'd be the first time since the roast. He didn't say at the end of the roast at all, actually.

[Bobby Kelly]

The first time since, I think, 2018. First time.

[Big J Okerson]

No, I did say. I know. I said. I realized that after the rose was over, I was like, oh, at the end, when he was going around. Whose phone is going nuts?

[Bobby Kelly]

Not mine.

[Sean Donnelly]

It was Donnelly calling because I guess he's in the hallway. I don't know. Or not. I don't know.

[Big J Okerson]

He's lost in the hallway.

[Sean Donnelly]

Do you have his number? Right, Lou. Okay, cool.

[Big J Okerson]

They'll let him know if he checks in, too. Edna Lou.

[Sean Donnelly]

No, Edna. Lou is. That's like a Hug Finn character making molasses. I can't believe, by the way, that this roast thing is still a story.

[Big J Okerson]

This is pretty much the last thing. Three and a half weeks on this thing.

[Ari Shaffir]

Who did. Who wrote Scrape more shrimp than Benihana?

[Sean Donnelly]

I think that was Mullen, but it could have been JP Too.

[Ari Shaffir]

That's a good one.

[Sean Donnelly]

Yeah, it was Mullen or it wasn't me.

[Big J Okerson]

White, I don't think.

[Sean Donnelly]

And it wasn't Lawrence, I don't think.

[Bobby Kelly]

Can you say what joke of yours was the best that got the most?

[Sean Donnelly]

I remember the one I wore on Jay was the. He's in the Epstein files for actual pizza. That was mine. And then I did the. I did the. I didn't do the fat flute, but I did the Lizzo. Looks like the final boss of a Red Lobster video game. That was mine.

[Big J Okerson]

But, yeah, that was, like Shane's personality in that one. He goes, you fat.

[Sean Donnelly]

And then I did all the gay. All the. The whole gay section, too. But, yeah, it was. It was fun. I mean, it was a blast. Everybody killed it. I thought. Yeah, honestly, everybody killed it.

[Big J Okerson]

That's the bummer of Tiana. You know, besides, like, the. The thing. Team up. Yeah. We go, what writer's gonna take full responsibility for Teona Taylor?

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah.

[Sean Donnelly]

I got one joke in there, too, but I don't. I don't talk about that one. That's what I mean, this white supremacist writer. The other two jokes I got in were for the two black women on the dance. So I guess I'm not doing the white nationalist thing, right.

[Big J Okerson]

You're doing it totally wrong, I guess. Good. Well, yeah, back it up a little, tiny bit, because he said at one point, he was like. He said he had extra jokes and that they said the writers could use them if they wanted to put them in the pool or something. See, there was no black people in there. I think now you had your own writers then you might have had somebody black. But as far as the Netflix writers, it was just. I thought they were executives.

[Ari Shaffir]

They're like, no, this

[Big J Okerson]

is actually racist.

[Sean Donnelly]

I will. I agree with them on the first thing is they should have paid him if they wanted his jokes.

[Big J Okerson]

But for sure, you know, like, budget.

[Sean Donnelly]

Yeah, but were you on the Zoom? Naim could also beat the out of me, so I'm not going to talk.

[Big J Okerson]

You know, he's.

[Sean Donnelly]

He's like a legit comic who can fight.

[Bobby Kelly]

Were you on the Zoom call with him?

[Sean Donnelly]

No, I wasn't there.

[Big J Okerson]

I was.

[Sean Donnelly]

I was only there the last week in the room. I was on the one with the Rock and the Rock during it. Like, when we're. When we're pitching him, he's, like, doing the people's elbow stuff, and he's, like, feeling his goosebumps, like, during the reading. It's crazy.

[Ari Shaffir]

Really?

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah. What a blue phony.

[Sean Donnelly]

He's literally going like this, like. And then. And then there's all these executives going. We love that for you, Dwayne. We love it. Oh, my God, this is amazing.

[Bobby Kelly]

Goosebumps.

[Ari Shaffir]

Is he wearing a sack of potatoes?

[Big J Okerson]

It's a very stylish shirt.

[Ari Shaffir]

There's no. There's nothing on it.

[Bobby Kelly]

It's a dress shirt. It matches his sneakers.

[Big J Okerson]

I wrote my own shit. Me and Big J, I think, are probably the only people that wrote their whole set. And that's it.

[Bobby Kelly]

There you go.

[Ari Shaffir]

Nice.

[Big J Okerson]

Thank you, Naeem.

[Sean Donnelly]

Thank you, Naeem Zapruda film Has there been about this freaking roast, man.

[Big J Okerson]

Thank you, Naim. Thank you, Naim. Lynn Ayim, the star on social media. Thank you, Naim. Was that looked on in the room, as was anybody in the room. Like, shitty about that.

[Sean Donnelly]

About what?

[Big J Okerson]

Like, me and Naim didn't want to

[Sean Donnelly]

use the Absolutely not. Yeah, they didn't care. No, I mean, like, the funniest thing. Your jokes were fantastic. I remember the balloon thing, but the way Jay wrote him, it was terror. Like, it was a schizophrenic shopping list. Like, when I first saw it, I'm like, these can't be good because no one writes. And then I was like, is this the zodiac? Like, it literally was, like, there was, like, circles in the middle and scratches, but they were all good. Like, once you, like, analyzed him, you, like, put hieroglyphics together. You're like, oh, wow, he's a genius. He's just making us work from the

[Bobby Kelly]

FBI to analyze it.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah.

[Sean Donnelly]

Just. John Douglas.

[Big J Okerson]

I can send you this. I can send you this picture.

[Jay]

He sent that into people.

[Sean Donnelly]

It was crazy. I was like, can you not read? Oh, my God, These are great.

[Bobby Kelly]

Well, it's weird that every comic has a different way of writing down jokes.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

Like, if you look at a comet's notes.

[Ari Shaffir]

Brody's. Brody's is the best. Brody's was just like, two, four, six. John Crook. You'd be like, what? Middlebury High School. The Eagles.

[Bobby Kelly]

Russ Maneve used to just draw characters of the bit. And you're like, what does that mean? He goes, oh, that's a bit about a girl.

[Big J Okerson]

Are you serious?

[Sean Donnelly]

That was not a joke.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

Russ Maneve's set list was fucking chaotic.

[Big J Okerson]

Drawings.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, drawings on his.

[Big J Okerson]

Why did I had to do this? They were like, you have to send something in. And I was like, yeah, but it's all just, like, thoughts I have now. So I just wrote it as I was. I said, I think it says, we'll see in a second. And then he goes, cheryl Underwood is black as question mark. I'll figure it out.

[Sean Donnelly]

Yeah, I remember we were laughing about that. There was like. The last two were just Mad Libs. It's like, she's so fat. She's. I'll figure my angle at some point.

[Bobby Kelly]

That's a Philly thing, though. Keith never writes down. I don't know any guy from Philly that has a note.

[Big J Okerson]

But Keith notoriously went up on stage and ate, trying to wing it.

[Bobby Kelly]

He ate. But he did take a napkin out with something written on at the end.

[Big J Okerson]

Really?

[Bobby Kelly]

And that bomb, too.

[Sean Donnelly]

What? Roasted?

[Big J Okerson]

He bombed Patrice o' Neill at the Boston Comedy Club.

[Sean Donnelly]

Oh, it was brutal, huh?

[Bobby Kelly]

He's like. He's like, I wrote something. And he pulled a napkin that. From the Cellar out of his pocket. And then I don't know what it was, but he read it and it just went, boo bomb.

[Sean Donnelly]

The best is I've seen it where guys crumbles the list up and he throws it in back, and then the three jokes don't work, and he runs back and grabs the list and unwraps it. Oh, my God.

[Jay]

There were more circles and things going on.

[Bobby Kelly]

I love that you gave it a fancy title, though. You're so cool, Nikki.

[Ari Shaffir]

Laser isn't here because it's hurt.

[Big J Okerson]

Weak.

[Ari Shaffir]

His handler's weak with the substance. Exclamation point.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah, look at the substance.

[Sean Donnelly]

This looks like an Epstein File drop.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Jay]

Their mouths.

[Big J Okerson]

Chelsea Handler, 50 Cent. Sex. Pumpkin spice, corn chips, hazel, etc.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah. Tony Hinchcliffe.

[Big J Okerson]

Teeth.

[Ari Shaffir]

Too many. Too few.

[Big J Okerson]

I never even said that. Yeah, regular mouth. Looks like the alien's little mouth.

[Jay]

We need stables.

[Big J Okerson]

Stables up here.

[Bobby Kelly]

What does that say in highlighted.

[Big J Okerson]

Right.

[Bobby Kelly]

Right above on that line right there.

[Sean Donnelly]

What does that say?

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, a Chelsea Handler had sex with 50 Cent and Joe Coy. But I wondered. Hey, Sean.

[Guest/Producer]

Hi.

[Big J Okerson]

I wanted to make sure. I was thinking. Needed more wording to specify that Jo Koy was Asian. To just make sure.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

So I.

[Ari Shaffir]

He is sort of.

[Big J Okerson]

So for the. What do you call that? Like the. The way it hits the ears, you know, it sounded better famous now, but famous rapper and Asian American comedian versus 50 Cent and Jo Koy. Give him both a little description.

[Bobby Kelly]

What does that bold thing say? What does the bold writing above those

[Ari Shaffir]

two words in Frank Lazar?

[Big J Okerson]

It was his famous rapper.

[Ari Shaffir]

Frank Lazar.

[Bobby Kelly]

Frank Lazarus.

[Big J Okerson]

What?

[Bobby Kelly]

Right there.

[Ari Shaffir]

Frank of us.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah. Bobby, I don't know how many times I can tell you the same exact thing. It's not going to change. It's famous rapper.

[Bobby Kelly]

You don't have to yell at me, though.

[Big J Okerson]

But you're saying, no, Frank Lazar, and I'm like, nope. What you're looking at is the words famous rap.

[Bobby Kelly]

Oh, famous rap. Well, he said Frank Lazar. Okay. I'm sorry, Jay. It's the way you say it.

[Big J Okerson]

You let Ari lead me lead you into something that was insane.

[Ari Shaffir]

He didn't respect you when he said you weren't right. He could have been more, like, caring.

[Bobby Kelly]

You could have been a little more caring about it. That's all.

[Big J Okerson]

He could have respected me. When I told you, I goes, what you're seeing is famous rapper and Asian comedian.

[Ari Shaffir]

You said it to him like 10 times.

[Big J Okerson]

Yes, so many times.

[Ari Shaffir]

Just was going, no, you don't understand, Jay. You're stupid.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah, you were saying I was stupid.

[Ari Shaffir]

Who's Frank Lazar?

[Bobby Kelly]

Well, then I'll say I'm sorry to you, Jay.

[Big J Okerson]

I'm sorry, too.

[Bobby Kelly]

Hang on, Ari, shut up. Let this go down. We gotta fix.

[Big J Okerson]

I'm also sorry.

[Bobby Kelly]

I love you.

[Big J Okerson]

I love you so much. So much. It says famous rapper and Asian. Everybody joining the show.

[Guest/Producer]

Do we need. Do we need counseling, guys?

[Bobby Kelly]

No.

[Big J Okerson]

No. The other half of the Burbs Bros. Is here. It's Sean Donnelly. Yes, you can check him and Dan out. Patreon.com burbsbr where they get into it? Fuck this government. They say they're lying to us.

[Bobby Kelly]

They look like, two guys that would be into aliens too.

[Sean Donnelly]

We're rebranding the podcast. They're Lying to Us is a great name.

[Guest/Producer]

They're Lying to Us. Great.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, yeah.

[Guest/Producer]

We also have Panic Room. We have a couple other ideas.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, yeah. There's Cheryl Underwood is as black as something. And then I'm gonna say that she makes Kevin Hart look like Shaggy or a white midget. It.

[Sean Donnelly]

You can see the point where he gives up when he crosses out, like, the punchline. It's like he blew his load on the Chelsea and hot air balloons and he's like, I'll get back, you guys. I'll get back to it.

[Big J Okerson]

That became the Draymond Green and her. So. But they had to bring him in to color correct the cameras.

[Bobby Kelly]

When did you finally. When did you finally get it all done? That week.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah,

[Ari Shaffir]

we cove.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah, I mean, I had, like, pretty ironed out like, like the weekend before. And then week of, I hung out the night before Ari and Lewis came over and I wasn't like, like, like panicking over the set or anything. I was like, it's there.

[Ari Shaffir]

It's gonna be. We watched UFCS, supposedly won 500.

[Jay]

I think you sent it in Friday.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah. I also made. Lewis is now Luis J. Gomez. I want to say that Last people know is into me right now for $2,500.

[Ari Shaffir]

He's into me for 400.

[Big J Okerson]

You think?

[Bobby Kelly]

You think he's into you for only $2,500?

[Big J Okerson]

Great.

[Sean Donnelly]

That he's running your guys business.

[Bobby Kelly]

That's awesome. Why don't you get a why don't really.

[Sean Donnelly]

Don't blame him now get a forensic

[Bobby Kelly]

account and find out what the real number is.

[Guest/Producer]

Is he playing CeeLo? What's going on?

[Bobby Kelly]

You mean the guy. The guy was working B clubs, driving an Audi.

[Guest/Producer]

They just buy a house.

[Big J Okerson]

For how much? This guy with a pool for how terrible this guy is at gambling. It's amazing how he somehow is sitting up money right now substantially. So we. The night before the roast, Ari and Lewis came over. They're just going to chill, watch the ufc, kind of get my mind off of anything. So we. We're watching the fights. Kim Congdon and Alex from Gas Digital come over to watch the fights. And Lewis starts making fights on a fight that really was supposed to go one way. Yeah, hazmat's supposed to beat Sean Strickland for the belt. No, like, it was supposed to be, like, almost no problem. So Lewis goes, I'll give you guys the odds. Basically, hundred hours you guys put up $100 each against me. I'll 500. So if I lose, I'll give you guys 500. If you lose me 100, I go, sure, let's do that. Then he did that with. With Alex and Kim Congdon, and they were like, they were so excited. All right, sure. He goes, I don't trust you ladies, so venmo me the hunt your hundred dollars now. Yeah, like as like your buy in to know that you're really anti up

[Guest/Producer]

for a fight bet he has.

[Big J Okerson]

I don't trust you'll pay me you if. If you.

[Ari Shaffir]

He goes, if I lose. If I lose, I'll pay you this 500 plus 100 you get back.

[Big J Okerson]

You get 600 bucks back. All right, so. And I mean, art. He gets cleaned out that night. Obviously, Sean Strickland wins. He owes Alex Kim 600 each. He owes me and Ari 500 each. Then Kim knows Louis nuff as a fellow Puerto Rican that get up his ass right away for it. So she got her money right away. Alex is employee who has a child and struggles, I believe as an out of work husband.

[Guest/Producer]

That's like rent for the month.

[Big J Okerson]

He is still every week on Skank since which has been several.

[Ari Shaffir]

He goes, oh, shit.

[Big J Okerson]

We always. We have to be reminded to tell him, hey, dude, you have to. You actually currently have her hundred dollars.

[Ari Shaffir]

At least give that back.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah, you're sitting on hundred. She gave you on a whim.

[Ari Shaffir]

And he only realized it when he brings up this intern who still owes him $500. He goes, the guy still won't to pay me back. And then he realized who he's talking to and he goes, ah.

[Big J Okerson]

So we were doing rattlesnake merch body

[Bobby Kelly]

brain coffee and creamer.

[Ari Shaffir]

It's more like a Puerto Rican juice snake.

[Big J Okerson]

Monday after the show, we were doing one of our ad reads, and I did the call to action. I'm not drunk. I'm not anything. And when they did it at the end of the ad read, Lewis goes, dude, you got to do the call to action. Say 40% off for the ad read. And I went, I did, but I'll do it again if you want to make sure. He's like, no, you didn't say it. I go, no, I said it, but I'll do it again. It's no problem. He goes, you definitely didn't say it. Then Ari started getting them all hyped up that I didn't say it.

[Ari Shaffir]

Didn't say it, Louis. He didn't say it.

[Big J Okerson]

He goes, in double or nothing for me. On the entire bet. I go, absolutely. And he goes, now, dude, you didn't say it. I go, why do you think I'm forgetting? It happened 20 seconds ago, anytime. And I read it and said it all.

[Bobby Kelly]

You have to do whatever side Ari's on. They're wrong. That's all you got to do. Whatever side. No, he did say. He didn't say it. He did say it.

[Ari Shaffir]

I did realize. He goes. I said it before. I was like, oh, before. I might be wrong. Yeah, actually might be wrong.

[Big J Okerson]

It's too late. That was already made. And then they took them 30 minutes to load up the episode so we could have a playback in the room. And we sat there so Lewis can find out that he was crushed and now owes me, I think, $1,500.

[Guest/Producer]

Just the mush from Brown.

[Sean Donnelly]

He's so much more Irish than Puerto Rican at this point. Like, the Irish is totally. He's like 15% Puerto Rican.

[Guest/Producer]

He's like, just give me chance.

[Big J Okerson]

I know I can get it back. Double or nothing. I'm like, why would you take a bet on something I'm assuring you? I've done seconds ago?

[Ari Shaffir]

He want. He wanted Chasing the action.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah, he loves it, dude. He gets hot for that heat.

[Bobby Kelly]

I hope gambling is his new thing. He has to sell us body brain to make money, and then we own it. And then it hits.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, that's when you start getting. That's when you start getting the phone calls, like. He goes, hey, man. So it's doing pretty good. Any chance you want to buy in the body brain or something? That's what my.

[Ari Shaffir]

Trying to give out money here.

[Big J Okerson]

My brother got in trouble. He got in legal trouble for selling when he was on drugs. He sold lifetime memberships to a gym. Yeah, my parents, like, started a gym for, like, a year, and he ran it, and he was. And then when he needed money, he goes, you can get a lifetime membership right now for, like, 150 bucks forever. And people will be like, yeah, everyone said yes to that and just did it. And then they're like, there's no fucking such thing as a lifetime membership. 150 bucks for a lifetime. It was crazy. Or like 300 bucks, whatever it was. It was 400 bucks.

[Jay]

It was wild.

[Big J Okerson]

It was something crazy. It was. It was substantially. Everyone would take that deal. Yes.

[Guest/Producer]

That's like the guy from Continental. Remember con? Back in the day, Continental did have a thing. They're like 2,000 bucks. You fly, right?

[Ari Shaffir]

Always, forever.

[Guest/Producer]

You fly for free the rest of your life. Like, on a Continental. And the guy bought it. It was like 2 to 5.

[Ari Shaffir]

Like, $99 back then, whatever.

[Guest/Producer]

It was cross country.

[Ari Shaffir]

So it was like 2,500 bucks forever.

[Guest/Producer]

He built them for, like, I don't know, two or three million dollars worth of flights to. They cut him off. He was like, 65. And they just cut him off for the flights.

[Sean Donnelly]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

So it's like, that's enough. We didn't mean this much.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah, we didn't mean this many flights.

[Big J Okerson]

Has anybody ever filmed themselves getting to the point of, like, anything that's supposed to be, like, endless, where you're like, well, there's got to be some, like, footnote somewhere in a contract that says, eventually we have to close the building? Sizzler. Sir, you can't be at this buffet anymore.

[Bobby Kelly]

Me and Patrice shut down a sushi place in Vegas. Lady came over. She goes, we ordered more. And then he went, no, you have to finish. You have to finish one on your plate. Now we're like, that's not a rule. So you can't get more unless that plate empty. And we're like, you just made that up.

[Big J Okerson]

Well, you're the reason now. You know what they do now at those places. This is actually a pretty smart move, the sushi. The all you can eat sushi places. There was one by us in the thing. Order whatever you want. Keep going. You're going to pay for what's left on your plate back to them.

[Ari Shaffir]

Oh, really?

[Sean Donnelly]

So you just shove it in your mouth and throw up in front of the restaurant?

[Big J Okerson]

Do it.

[Jay]

Do it.

[Ari Shaffir]

Chips?

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah, I think it's minorly digested. That should count.

[Guest/Producer]

Also, Bobby and Patrice just recreated a John Panette bit. Isn't that, like, his famous bit where he was like, no.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, it was.

[Big J Okerson]

Really?

[Bobby Kelly]

I've never seen Patrice that mad. I think he called her an Asian. He's like, you, Asian? It's not a rule. It said, all you can eat.

[Big J Okerson]

You have to have a little.

[Ari Shaffir]

Guys, I gotta be honest with you. Asian's my line.

[Big J Okerson]

I don't like it. You're out of here.

[Ari Shaffir]

I'm not gonna say.

[Big J Okerson]

Okay. All right.

[Sean Donnelly]

Oh, that's it. Oh, my God. That's it.

[Bobby Kelly]

I think Ari's scared.

[Big J Okerson]

I saw that.

[Bobby Kelly]

I just think he's scared of these two guys because you're a alien.

[Big J Okerson]

I saw that coming.

[Sean Donnelly]

That's it.

[Big J Okerson]

I saw that coming.

[Bobby Kelly]

Christine.

[Sean Donnelly]

Ari's a reptilian. Ari's a reptilian.

[Bobby Kelly]

Undo his. Undo his little thing in the back. I bet he has an eye there.

[Sean Donnelly]

A mouse that is the craziest hairstyle.

[Big J Okerson]

Ari Shafir, little known fact, hates Asian hate. It drives him nuts. Yeah, and I've seen him do this before. This is not. This is not uncommon.

[Sean Donnelly]

I mean, most people hate west for that was like three weeks.

[Big J Okerson]

Weeks. Three weeks? Yeah, three weeks.

[Sean Donnelly]

And then they like, we're like, ah, they're doing fine. Yeah, they're doing pretty good. Black lives matter was like a season.

[Bobby Kelly]

You know, Steve Byrne put a new special and they're like, man, you know what? It's all right, it's all right.

[Big J Okerson]

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[Sean Donnelly]

Tell me what it smells like over there with that man.

[Guest/Producer]

Ayahuasca.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, Christine, you want to know what Ari did this morning? Yeah, he was wearing just a bathing suit, like a Speedo bathing suit. And he was in Christine's office using her computer and camera and microphone to do Skank's episode with us. And at one point he thought it was funny to get up. And, I mean, he put his butt cheeks on the microphone and just cracked. I mean, you know what his ass looks like. So something comes out with every fart.

[Sean Donnelly]

Oh, Jesus.

[Big J Okerson]

And I don't mean like something like shit like. I mean, like body.

[Sean Donnelly]

Dude, this podcast is becoming saw.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah,

[Sean Donnelly]

you guys have collars on people's necks. Ari's just shitting and drugging people. You need to.

[Crack Amigo]

Need.

[Sean Donnelly]

The new co host has to be Jigsaw. It has to be coming on a bicycle.

[Big J Okerson]

The fucking last night. Did you see this Bobby yet?

[Bobby Kelly]

No.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, can I send this to you? The Reddit thing, it's. This is so fantastic.

[Jay]

So last night, did something come out on my microphone?

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, it came out. When he farts, stuff comes out.

[Big J Okerson]

Like, you'd have to assume.

[Bobby Kelly]

I bet you there's a bone chip with blood on it on your microphone.

[Jay]

Switching out the mic.

[Big J Okerson]

You might want to switch out the mic, but I told him to open the window and everything. But you might want to do that thing. There's a thing in our house where you can open all the windows in the house and push a picture button and it sucks everything up to the attic.

[Bobby Kelly]

Oh, the big fan.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, those are great.

[Big J Okerson]

So we probably suck the AR out of the house if we get a Chance to. That would be pretty.

[Guest/Producer]

Doesn't stop from these headphones being sweaty.

[Sean Donnelly]

That was like, he had like three different bad hairstyles. Like, he didn't land on one. There was a LeBron receding thing, and then there was like an Amish thing

[Big J Okerson]

going on right here.

[Jay]

Jay, this picture they pulled. Hilarious.

[Big J Okerson]

Look at the T. You had the Reddit thing.

[Jay]

I. I think it's right here.

[Big J Okerson]

Yes, yes, yes, yes. So let me, Let. Let me build this up first before I read it to you.

[Bobby Kelly]

Sure.

[Big J Okerson]

This is fantastic. So we're doing the internal Olympics right now, and last night we thought it'd be funny. He goes, oh, we'll have him do a talent show. The remaining people, you know, we have to eliminate people every week. And they're all good. They're good spirited, good game. And we, we said, we're gonna do a shock collar talent show. And so they do their talent while they're getting shot collared. You know, give them a Z. And, you know, it was. We were doing more and more, especially if, like, you know, versus girls versus guys. You're going a little harder on the guys and stuff, but I mean, all within reason of everybody agreeing to it. Everybody signed everything. And then the last girl who was gonna go, it was only one girl in the contest.

[Bobby Kelly]

So fucked up. You have to sign something to do a podcast.

[Big J Okerson]

Gotta get shot collar for sure. But she also, we say the thing is, like, everybody can go, yeah, dude, I'm just not doing it. All right, yeah, that's fine. Like, but she. She had.

[Guest/Producer]

You're not gonna disqualified.

[Big J Okerson]

You're not gonna win this round for sure.

[Bobby Kelly]

You're not gonna be welcome.

[Big J Okerson]

But if it makes sense to make

[Guest/Producer]

that money to pay back Louis J. Gomez.

[Big J Okerson]

If it makes sense. If it makes sense, there's always, like a thing, you know, I mean, like, there's a thing you could have done. If you're like, I'm not doing it, but, like, I'll do that. You know, make another offer. What you will. Doesn't matter. It's all a comedy show. It means nothing. So this girl came up and she's got a big, like, a scar down her chest. So she's had. Clearly had a heart problem. And we point that out right away, and she goes, yeah, I don't think I can do it. And then the joke for the next half hours, like, are we going to do it? We're looking up if it's okay to do it. Is it okay? How long has it's been? What's your particular heart

[Bobby Kelly]

Is this going to affect the other device in your chest?

[Big J Okerson]

This chick also, by the way, is a loop. So it's like we're. She probably would have done it. Quite honestly. You should have let us do it. But, like, no one's doing it at all.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

And I think where it got ultimately was Ian Finance, like, took it for her. Like, he took the shot and he was going to get it, you know, every time. Time we were gonna zap her. But, like, he took one zap and he was like, that dude. No way.

[Bobby Kelly]

Even if it cured his gout.

[Big J Okerson]

But this is great.

[Sean Donnelly]

This is the only way it can come.

[Big J Okerson]

You're gonna love this because this might be a troll in so many ways. You're gonna hear how, like, ridiculous this gets with, by the way, spelling recounting everything. This was two nights ago. If you can go back to it. Yeah, I watched Legion of Skanks literally torture people with shock collars last. I have never been a Reddit girly, but I watched someone almost die last night, so here goes. Lol. I watched Legion of Skanks at the Stand in New York City last night, and I genuinely cannot stop thinking about how up it was. I've been a fan of Big J since, like, 2015 when that Apple TV special came out. I don't know what she means by that. And I watched some of the fan put out a special. Probably you didn't know that.

[Sean Donnelly]

Yeah, especially you read it.

[Guest/Producer]

An Apple.

[Bobby Kelly]

Oh, you didn't know about that special. That's my favorite special.

[Big J Okerson]

And they go, I watch some of his podcasts when I'm at work. Lol. The other two, I don't know that well, but I knew the two guests, Ian Fine, Danksy and Dave Atelli. I even went to Skank fest back in 2021 in Houston, which was sick. And I saw Ian and Dave when they came through Houston too. So, yeah, I've been following these guys for a while. But tonight. What the. Now it's crazy about all of that. You don't know. Lewis and R Are. You came to Skank Fest. Like, that's insane.

[Guest/Producer]

What the.

[Big J Okerson]

To say that and then spelling your name. That's why I said it could be a bit of a troll. So I'm being funny, but they go,

[Sean Donnelly]

they could have been Chris Katan fans also.

[Guest/Producer]

It could be that aloof girl thing where she's like, I don't know who these other guys are.

[Big J Okerson]

Maybe.

[Bobby Kelly]

Have you seen him lately? Little. He has, like, an AIDS stomach now.

[Sean Donnelly]

It's tough.

[Big J Okerson]

Well, this is great.

[Sean Donnelly]

It's, it's. He's got National Geographic stomach.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, yeah, he does.

[Bobby Kelly]

He has pygmy tribe chief stomach, dude.

[Guest/Producer]

He's never been contacted by society. Yeah, it's Amazon rainforest.

[Big J Okerson]

It is crazy looking.

[Bobby Kelly]

He has a cone on his dick

[Big J Okerson]

and he's got a young. He's got like a young kind of hot wife or girlfriend. She's smoking, brings him around and then he just does bits with people. But like, you could tell, he's like, he had to memorize the lines and just says, I saw him today do a thing where you stand next to a guy and the guy's like, I saw that. He's like, he's like, I'm taller than you. He goes, you're toy goes. He goes. Only like, he goes maybe like 5 inches. I think he talks like he's like, like he's turning into, like.

[Bobby Kelly]

I think he's turning into a child.

[Sean Donnelly]

Now, to be fair, I thought he did a great job playing piano alongside Dr. Moreau. I thought he was really wonderful.

[Guest/Producer]

Also, it seems like the wife's put like forcing to do all those.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, yeah. I don't know what he looks. He's cursed at. Turn into a, like a doll or a toy or something.

[Bobby Kelly]

The funny thing is, I think his head is locked in the front position because when he turns, he has to turn his whole head with his body. He can't turn.

[Big J Okerson]

Just as watching him on stage now, I bet is a bummer. If you watch him do comedy on stage, I mean, it's gotta be. I mean, he walks like it's crazy looking. He looks like he has Paul, he got palsy or something.

[Guest/Producer]

He looks like Ed Sullivan.

[Sean Donnelly]

I was just in the lobby with Hugh Jackman. This is the opposite of that. You would think like that Hugh Jackman is 25 and he's 400 years old.

[Big J Okerson]

His mas, they're probably six years apart.

[Sean Donnelly]

Probably six years apart. Older.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

Go back to the Reddit thing. I'd say this is great. Chris, you're so worked up. They held the shock button down on one guy for like 15 full minutes straight.

[Guest/Producer]

You would kill somebody.

[Big J Okerson]

You kill somebody.

[Bobby Kelly]

Well, you'd actually just get used to it.

[Big J Okerson]

Maybe you're actually right.

[Sean Donnelly]

Wait, did you guys.

[Big J Okerson]

I don't know. No.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, we do have to ask that question.

[Big J Okerson]

No, we didn't. It was brutal. But then. Okay, this is where it gets actually insane. The last girl tells them that she has a heart condition and that this could literally kill her. Could literally kill her. And they put the shock collar on her anyway. And Lewis is sitting there laughing like a maniac. Ian and Atelli are literally saying. Are literally saying, no. They're saying, no, don't fucking do that over and over. Even the people working the show in the back are telling them not to do it, and they do it anyway. We walked out when that collar went on her neck. Most of the audience walked out by then. Honestly, too, I don't know what happened after. I assume she didn't die because it's not in the news, but what the fuck? I'm not someone who gets offended by comedy. I came in there ready to laugh at dark shit. I don't care about edgy jokes at all. But this wasn't comedy. This was. Was just watching people force someone with a medical condition and is something that could actually hurt her. While everyone watches, I'm still thinking about that girl and hope she's okay. What the fuck, man?

[Sean Donnelly]

I will say, not the craziest take, not the crazy.

[Big J Okerson]

But it's also just like. It's weird. Everybody left. Like, the audience never left. The audience was there well into the commercial. He's back.

[Sean Donnelly]

He's back.

[Ari Shaffir]

I say this too. If you think Indians don't count as Asians, that's wrong. That's also part of it. So I don't know what he said while I was gone, but if it's going to Indians also.

[Sean Donnelly]

Oh, Jesus Christ. With his world musician haircut.

[Bobby Kelly]

Ah, you forgot something.

[Big J Okerson]

Would you forget your.

[Guest/Producer]

I'm roaming the Earth.

[Bobby Kelly]

Would you forget your yoga pad?

[Sean Donnelly]

He just immediately puts on black face as he leaves the studio.

[Bobby Kelly]

His spaceship's in the bag.

[Big J Okerson]

He does look like he's gonna appear over a hazy ridge, like, where it looks like there's fluid going through him. But it's just the.

[Bobby Kelly]

You know, he was at the train and he went, I forgot my bag.

[Guest/Producer]

He thought about the Indian line 20 minutes ago.

[Big J Okerson]

It's so funny. Did you say you were at Skankfest south and you didn't see Lewis to comedy? That's.

[Guest/Producer]

There you go. Was that you that wrote that? Who wrote that?

[Big J Okerson]

I don't know, but the comments.

[Guest/Producer]

It's true.

[Jay]

This has to be totally true.

[Bobby Kelly]

That's a troll. That's a troll.

[Jay]

Because you didn't even. You didn't do this. This didn't happen. She's, like, making stuff.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, this is just all made up. Nobody.

[Big J Okerson]

L. Oh, no, no. We. We zapped minutes with the condition.

[Jay]

Didn't get. She's making it out like you guys did.

[Big J Okerson]

I'll Tell you what, crazy.

[Bobby Kelly]

That didn't happen.

[Big J Okerson]

There may be nothing funnier than watching somebody do open mic comedy, though, while getting zot every couple seconds.

[Bobby Kelly]

I think they should do it. All of a mike should have that, buddy.

[Big J Okerson]

It was. I mean, it was so funny.

[Sean Donnelly]

Quality control, for sure.

[Big J Okerson]

He was doing good too. He was doing really good. But it was just like. He goes, and then she stands me up in the. And then, like. And then, you know, it's good because, like, so I called her again. We went out and it was just like. You'd see their face.

[Bobby Kelly]

You just got him a new kink.

[Big J Okerson]

It's so funny.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, you get the zots. That should be a show at Skag Fest.

[Guest/Producer]

Just.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, my God.

[Bobby Kelly]

The Electric Collar comedy show.

[Big J Okerson]

Absolutely.

[Bobby Kelly]

You give the fans bands the actual button.

[Big J Okerson]

Just the fact that he's going, like, they say tort. Like you're torturing people. He goes, I mean, there's like, meetings about this. They make it seem like we're like, everyone down and lick our boots.

[Bobby Kelly]

We're like, so funny. A meeting with Ari Lewis and Jay is a. We had a meeting about this. We shuffled this around.

[Big J Okerson]

You want full disclosure? It's the biggest I told you so in Legion of Skanks in history for me. We had a meeting two weeks ago for this one. I think it's how we ended up at this. Maybe now it was from two weeks ago. But on our meeting, they were like. I think they wanted to get done the meeting quick because they were like, here's the idea. He goes, I think it's funny. We just eliminate half them right away. We just have them fight at the stand, like, you know, boxing, like headgear boxing gloves and fight. And I go, sounds hilarious. And they go, well, there's a girl. They go, there's a girl and a trans. We see if that works out now. I think it's hilarious again.

[Bobby Kelly]

Again.

[Big J Okerson]

But wall, while I'm thinking this is hilarious and wonderful, I'm going, but we can't do this to stand. They're not gonna let us do that. And it's like, we'll just have him fight behind us. Well, how about on the stage? I go, none of these things are gonna work. And they go, outside. I go, outside. Now we're talking. And it's like, so we'll do the show outside, and then while there's a show, you know, then we'll kind of like, you know, kind of ask for forgiveness instead of permission, you know, when you're already out there, right?

[Guest/Producer]

You already did It.

[Big J Okerson]

But you know, the clubs got gotta know now. Maybe we won't tell. All right, then we will tell the club. But Lewis's thing is. So this is. Again, it's a quality I don't have in this. I'm like, but they're not gonna let you do this. And he goes, well, here's what we'll do. Half the show downstairs, the stand after a half hour or a half hour of the show downstairs, then everyone goes upstairs and we set the cameras up upstairs. And then we do the thing outside. I go, the stand's not gonna let you bring the entire audience out of a room after one round of drink. This is a crazy. They're not gonna have let us book a half hour show. And he goes. And the whole thing was just like, they will. I'm gonna call Harari. These guys, they're gonna do what we say. We're Legion of Skanks. And then Sunday had to be like, guys, we gotta pivot. They came back and said,

[Guest/Producer]

guys, we can't call it Legion of Skanks anymore.

[Big J Okerson]

That's the biggest I told you so in history. I go, all right, guys. They go, that's good. So we're gonna do. We'll talk for a half an hour, then the fights. That'll be the whole show. We're good to go. We're outta here. I go, I don't think that's a full show, guys. I don't think we're gonna be able to do the thing. Fights to go, let me talk to them. And then it's always like, Joe Harari said, no way, it's impossible. Talk to Patrick. And then he's like, just heard back from Patrick's. He said, check with Chris. The legal. Sounds like it's not going to work out at all. Chris said, no possible way in hell.

[Bobby Kelly]

We have to pivot to electric collars.

[Big J Okerson]

It wasn't even. It was like. That was like the holding water until their arms dropped thing. It was like we had no. We didn't have much of a pivot because, like, it was like, yeah, we put all of our. All of our bank and having them fist fight, walk an entire club. Hey, let's not draw attention by everyone leaving a show, walking by the other show to go past a bar of people waiting for the next show to

[Sean Donnelly]

go outside and fight.

[Bobby Kelly]

I'm so glad I'm not starting comedy

[Commercial Announcer]

right now

[Bobby Kelly]

because I would definitely be attracted to this show and want to be a part of it. I'd be like, ah. All I had to do is just hang around and just wait for somebody to. Not just to show up. Now it's like, dude, put this on. You got a heart condition. Think about it.

[Big J Okerson]

I'll tell you. I'll tell you what. I wouldn't have survived in comedy for sure. Is that like how young in comedy people want to get on, like a Kill Tony platform. And what's even more would have hit me more like, I don't know how I would have handled like it getting popular so young, like three years in the comedy or something. I couldn't imagine getting popular. But more than that, my personal. If I. If that was like, I always said it about Kevin Hart. When he got his sitcom and it was canceled before it aired and he just keeps going. I was like, that's always. To me, I would have been like, that was everything I had. That's the sitcom I wrote. That was my idea. Like, I guess I'm not made.

[Guest/Producer]

Shot my shot.

[Big J Okerson]

I'm not made for this. So, yeah, I would have. Like, if I went on Kill Tony and they. Everyone just made fun of me and on me and it was like a bad set. I choked. I would have been devastated. I don't think I could have got on again. I go, I'm just known as that guy now.

[Bobby Kelly]

There is always the other way of just doing stand up until you get good enough to headline you.

[Sean Donnelly]

Bob.

[Bobby Kelly]

I know, I know it's the old fashioned way. I know, I know, I know.

[Sean Donnelly]

But you're always.

[Big J Okerson]

But you're only as much as you're. You're only gonna be as. As motivated as the opportunities that are available at the time. So probably all the two young things for me were like caring about, like, should I get on Letterman at three years in or something or whatever kind of like half hour special. Way too early hoping about for that stuff. There wasn't a thing of every night you can put up your set and clips.

[Guest/Producer]

There was like a ladder. There was like there you could. You could do all the stuff that got you to the point where you were like, experienced enough.

[Bobby Kelly]

We did have the table though. You did have to rub the gauntlet of that fucking night.

[Guest/Producer]

That was like street fight in the Tren type scenario. They got you better at stand up. And then show business wise, what he's talking about.

[Bobby Kelly]

I used to be up at night, like, do I look good? Is this okay? Yeah, I have to go do a spot at the Cellar. Last time I had to throw my whole outfit out.

[Guest/Producer]

When I first started there. I asked for mashed potatoes. And they gave me four pounds of mashed potatoes.

[Bobby Kelly]

I remember that.

[Guest/Producer]

And I had a black and red rugby shirt on. And this kid made fun of me for 45 minutes straight.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, it was the funny.

[Big J Okerson]

I mean, it was fun.

[Bobby Kelly]

Mountain of mountain. I seeing that face, only eat potatoes. How do you not? How do you not? He should have been the potato guy.

[Big J Okerson]

All the potatoes.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, dude, it was.

[Sean Donnelly]

If Donnelly did potato performance art, it would be him.

[Guest/Producer]

Gallagher, but with a potato slapping a spoon into potatoes. But.

[Big J Okerson]

But it's true.

[Guest/Producer]

You got your. You got. I got on constantly. And that's just kind of a rite of passage.

[Sean Donnelly]

And now you go to the cellar table and it's like the table in Animal House where they put all the nerds that they don't want the crab.

[Big J Okerson]

You know, it is. We. I feel like every time we go to the cell where I was like the table that I would think you just go back and sit at. I feel like me and Bobby are interrupting young black people talking about young black people things. And we. Then we just. We sit down next to him like this. We go, oh, that feels good to take the day off. My legs

[Bobby Kelly]

interrupting progress. You know when I try to make it mean, it's. They're like, what?

[Big J Okerson]

See? Natterman's banged off into a corner eating boiled chicken off menu. It's ins.

[Crack Amigo]

Mean.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big J Okerson]

It's insane. What's going on.

[Bobby Kelly]

Nor is at a side table by himself. It's like weird now. It's weird.

[Big J Okerson]

Can you fix Sean's arm? Chair arms. Cuz it's crazy. What's happening over there? That one's got to come all the way up. No.

[Bobby Kelly]

Oh, sorry.

[Guest/Producer]

Hi, guys.

[Big J Okerson]

Hi, guys.

[Bobby Kelly]

Stop eating those.

[Big J Okerson]

Cont. That guy.

[Guest/Producer]

I'm on mcovi.

[Big J Okerson]

That is so funny with Chris Catania. Goes like. Did you get into like a. Did a plane door open while you were on it? Like, why are you compressed?

[Guest/Producer]

Why are you that dude from He Man.

[Sean Donnelly]

Ram Man.

[Big J Okerson]

That's exactly what I was thinking of. He just popped up.

[Bobby Kelly]

His stomach is just bloated. I don't. It's a weird. Because he was a good looking guy. Like he was a little thin guy. Snl, energetic, running around. Maybe all those. When he was doing that, what was that monkey bit where he'd jump on the corky?

[Sean Donnelly]

Was that mango? Mango.

[Bobby Kelly]

Mango up his back.

[Sean Donnelly]

Mango, yeah. And then probably. Probably AKA oxycontin, but mango too. Mango too.

[Big J Okerson]

I think he did. Yeah, he did. He got a neck injury like from SNL sketch.

[Sean Donnelly]

Jesus Christ.

[Big J Okerson]

And what was it For I hope

[Sean Donnelly]

he got money from that.

[Big J Okerson]

He got a painkiller addiction, which his whole career it's called.

[Guest/Producer]

Aging wrestler body.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah, I'm sorry, dude. Here, get up.

[Guest/Producer]

I didn't want to interrupt.

[Big J Okerson]

What was the thing?

[Bobby Kelly]

I got them.

[Big J Okerson]

What's the. What's the thing that broke his neck

[Sean Donnelly]

in a Golden Girl?

[Bobby Kelly]

It's alcohol, too, that he does have that alcoholic stomach.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah, well, he was a problem when I did that show, Z Rock, his show, like Bollywood Hero, I think it was called that he did was on ifc, and we were like, co. What do you call that? Like, co. Promoting the shows everywhere. And he was always like, hey, we're doing a big photo shoot for. Doing a thing for a billboard or something. Like, he's two and a half hours late. All right, we're gonna do a bunch without him. And then he ended up not showing up at all. Like that kind of dude.

[Guest/Producer]

There's Craz wrote stories about him. Some guy I know opened up for him and they would drive him around the whole weekend. And he was like. He was just trying to get pills and all this stuff, whatever it was. And he said the last day he was there, he's supposed to pick him off the airport to go to the airport. And he wasn't at his hotel. He just wasn't there. And the guy was like, I'll just go home. And then he. I guess he had. He had his number. And he was like, hey, man, thanks so much. I'm back in la. He's like, I have your wallet and your keys from your hotel room. How did you get back? La. And he's like, I just got back. Don't worry about it.

[Big J Okerson]

That is weird being let down by somebody who's like. You see, as a higher up. If I was like, picking up a. I never worked at a. A white enough club where I was picking up like a mainstream headline or anywhere that, you know, I would have gotten like a, you know, Pablo Francisco being like, hey, can you get me coke? Like that would have bummed me the fuck out for sure. You know, I mean, seeing that, like, side of someone like that, I got

[Bobby Kelly]

bummed out seeing someone like Gilbert Godfrey. I got to drive the Middle Earth to the show.

[Sean Donnelly]

Yeah.

[Bobby Kelly]

And it was at the aku. No, the Hukilao Chinese restaurant. And I was so excited. There's Gilbert Godfrey. I'm like, oh, this is great. He ordered a hundred dollars worth of Chinese food, didn't eat it, went on stage, walked every bomb for 50 minutes and didn't even Acknowledge the bombing. Walked off stage and took the hundred. Didn't even open. I thought it was going to get some food. Took the bag and took it in the car back to a hotel room without a fridge. And he was leaving the next day. I was like, what the is that?

[Big J Okerson]

It's so depressing. But, I mean, more of a let down. Like, I had a celebrity let down pretty early. I was saying I won a thing. And that part of my prize was a night or two at the Hudson Hotel, which I don't even know if it exists anymore. So I'm on 57th. It was really minimalist, but, like, nice. Fair. See? But like, tiny rooms, or at least the one they gave me. But just going down to, like, the hotel lobby, I met Leif Garrett and the actor Bill Nunn. Radio Raheem from school days.

[Guest/Producer]

No way.

[Big J Okerson]

And he's been in a zillion things. He was in the Spider man movies and stuff.

[Guest/Producer]

He's gonna do the right thing, I think, too, right?

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah, absolutely. That's where he is. Radio Rocky. Do the right thing. So he's. He was there. And then they came to my show. I was talking about my show. They came to my show with Caroline's, and then we went back to the hotel bar, and we're playing pool. I'm not really drinking at all. Bill Nunn gets obliterated, and, like, me and some other stranger had to, like, put him in his room in his bed. And I was so young in comedy still that I was like. I was like, I just met a celebrity. And then you're like, oh, God. He's a real person who has a real problem. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Guest/Producer]

He did a bunch of stuff that day.

[Bobby Kelly]

Yeah.

[Sean Donnelly]

He's a good actor.

[Commercial Announcer]

Is he?

[Sean Donnelly]

Oh, he's just act.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah, he did pass away. Yeah. Yeah.

[Guest/Producer]

He's in Not Lethal Weapon.

[Bobby Kelly]

He's in one of those.

[Guest/Producer]

He's in one of the 90s.

[Sean Donnelly]

Yeah.

[Guest/Producer]

Oh, he did die. Oh, wow.

[Jay]

2016.

[Big J Okerson]

Mo better blues.

[Guest/Producer]

He's a thousand things.

[Sean Donnelly]

I. I got. I got hammered after the Ric Flair roast, and I ended up blacking out in the hallway, and I woke up, and I just saw this guy Speedo in front of me, and it was a wrestler. Do you need some help? Thank you. And then, like, he, like, brought me back to my room.

[Big J Okerson]

I was like.

[Sean Donnelly]

I was draped over, like, eleven and Stranger things.

[Big J Okerson]

I met him on date.

[Sean Donnelly]

So depressing.

[Guest/Producer]

Next day, you're like, does that happen?

[Sean Donnelly]

I knew because I got three texts

[Bobby Kelly]

from that, we're gonna take a Break. Yeah, we got a great show for you. We're gonna get into this. We're gonna. We're gonna make Jay believe. Right, fellas?

[Big J Okerson]

The Burbs Bros are here. Dan St. Germain and Sean Donnelly. They have a Patreon. Patreon.com Burbs Bros. Make sure you check them out and check out their YouTube page.

[Bobby Kelly]

Make sure you check out Ari Shafir's new storytelling show, the End. It's out now. Order now. Arishafir.com make sure sure you get it cuz it's really funny. We'll be right back.

[Big J Okerson]

I'm in Spokane speaking. Where are you?

[Bobby Kelly]

I'm going to the mountains.

[Sean Donnelly]

Nice.

[Bobby Kelly]

With Ari and Max and Joe Russell.

[Big J Okerson]

Oh, so many farts coming your way.

[Bobby Kelly]

We might not make it back.

[Big J Okerson]

Yeah. Do you know there's nothing out in primitive camping that's going to be able to patch up the wound that is AR's.

[Bobby Kelly]

I have an filter.

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[Big J Okerson]

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[Big J Okerson]

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