The Punisher w/Sharay Hayes & Dante Nero

Summary

Episode Summary: "The Punisher" with Sharay Hayes & Dante Nero

Podcast Title: The Bonfire with Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly
Host/Author: SiriusXM
Episode: The Punisher w/Sharay Hayes & Dante Nero
Release Date: July 17, 2025

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Introduction

In this riveting episode of The Bonfire, hosts Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly welcome Dante Nero, also known as "The Punisher," a seasoned male stripper with a controversial past involving a high-profile trial with P. Diddy. The conversation delves deep into Dante's unique career, personal struggles, and the legal battles that have thrust him into the spotlight.

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Meet Dante Nero

Dante Nero introduces himself to the audience amidst playful banter and humorous exchanges with Big Jay and Robert. The hosts express their admiration for Dante's charisma and longevity in the male stripping business.

• Robert Kelly [01:34]: "Jacob and Bobby, you guys look like goddamn for your 50s."
• Big Jay Oakerson [03:40]: "He really does look good. I didn't think you would look this good."

Dante shares his history in the male stripping scene, highlighting his status as a top performer on the East Coast in the 90s and his eventual friendship with fellow stripper Jacob.

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Behind the Scenes of Male Stripping

The discussion shifts to the intricacies of the male stripping industry, including the nuances between interactions with female and male clients.

• Dante Nero [08:24]: "So it's both. Right, but women are not overt. They won't say how much for sex. They'll say how much for one-on-one, or how much do you do massages?"

Dante explains how he navigates client interactions, emphasizing the importance of setting boundaries and maintaining professionalism to avoid entrapment or coercion.

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Legal Troubles and the P. Diddy Trial

A significant portion of the episode centers around Dante’s involvement in a trial with P. Diddy, where Dante testified against the rapper. The hosts probe into the details of Dante's testimony and the dynamics within the courtroom.

• Dante Nero [42:03]: "I had to really give those details."
• Robert Kelly [45:31]: "They brought him dressed in a Punisher outfit on the stand. Was he glaring at you?"

Dante recounts his experience in court, describing the tense atmosphere and the strategic maneuvers by the prosecution to implicate P. Diddy in sex trafficking charges. He details the misinformation presented during the trial and how it affected public perception.

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Personal Struggles: Erectile Dysfunction and Authoring "In Search of Freezer Meat"

Dante opens up about his personal battles with erectile dysfunction, a challenge that deeply impacted his profession and self-esteem. This struggle motivated him to author his self-help book, In Search of Freezer Meat.

• Dante Nero [53:42]: "Most guys, when you start decline sexually, you kind of just roll with it. But in my line of work, that just cannot happen."
• Big Jay Oakerson [54:17]: "You went what?"

Dante narrates his journey through various treatments—pills, electric shock therapy, and ultimately, his breakthrough after consulting a urologist who diagnosed his issues as purely psychological.

• Dante Nero [54:16]: "It's all in your head."

His book aims to address male masculinity issues and provide solutions for those grappling with similar challenges.

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Insights and Reflections

Throughout the episode, Dante provides candid insights into the complexities of male stripping, the stigma surrounding male sex work, and the psychological toll it can take. The hosts and Dante discuss the importance of mental health, resilience, and the stigmatization of erectile dysfunction among men in high-pressure professions.

• Dante Nero [56:26]: "I had to set my boundaries before they made me cross them."
• Robert Kelly [51:22]: "But now everybody knows the law. Are you nervous about maybe them coming after you?"

Dante emphasizes the necessity of self-care and seeking professional help to overcome personal demons, reinforcing the themes of his book.

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Conclusion

The episode wraps up with a humorous yet poignant demonstration of Dante's book concepts, blending comedy with serious discussions about masculinity and mental health. The hosts encourage listeners to explore Dante's book and reflect on their own experiences with similar struggles.

• Dante Nero [54:34]: "This will stay hard. I could fuck while on fire."
• Robert Kelly [54:40]: "We all do."

Notable Quotes:

• Dante Nero [08:24]: "So it's both. Right, but women are not overt. They won't say how much for sex. They'll say how much for one-on-one, or how much do you do massages?"
• Dante Nero [53:42]: "Most guys, when you start decline sexually, you kind of just roll with it. But in my line of work, that just cannot happen."
• Robert Kelly [51:22]: "But now everybody knows the law. Are you nervous about maybe them coming after you?"

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Key Takeaways

• Boundary Setting: Crucial in male stripping to maintain professionalism and avoid personal entanglements.
• Mental Health: Addressing psychological issues like erectile dysfunction is essential, especially in high-pressure careers.
• Legal Implications: The P. Diddy trial highlights the complexities and public perceptions surrounding male sex work.
• Resilience and Adaptation: Dante's journey underscores the importance of resilience and seeking appropriate help to overcome personal challenges.

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Listen Live: For those who missed the episode, The Bonfire is available every Monday through Thursday at 5 PM Eastern/2 PM Pacific on SiriusXM’s Faction Talk, Channel 103. Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ for ad-free listening and early access.

Transcript

[Robert Kelly]

When work gets crazy, I like to.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Stop by the bar after, have a few cold ones. I don't drink at all until 4 o'. Clock. We limit ourselves to one bottle of wine a night.

[Dante Nero]

Excessive drinking has a way of sneaking up on us. A few drinks, a few nights a week, it can add up. And suddenly we're at greater risk for long term problems like heart disease, cancer and depression. Reason enough to rethink the drink more.

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[Dante Nero]

And now the bonfire with Big J Okerson and Robert Kelly.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You gotta love the bass. There he is. What's up everybody? It's Robert Kelly and the hilarious, funniest guy walking. So grateful to be doing a show with him. Cause he's one of the best, if not the best right now. This is too much, Big J Okerson. It's never too much. Couldn't look you in the eye when I said it. That's how much I meant. Was uncomfortable.

[Robert Kelly]

I don't want to hear it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't want to. You should hear it.

[Robert Kelly]

I hate it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And the crew is here. Everybody's here. And we got our great friend. One of my long. I mean, I've known you for so long.

[Robert Kelly]

Are you trying to remember his name?

[Jacob]

25.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It's Dante.

[Robert Kelly]

Nero Dante.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Dante Naro. I want to tell you how great that slap. You like it?

[Jacob]

I love it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

Should we bring him in? Should we? Do you want to go grab black glue?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Can you explain to the people like me who don't know who he is.

[Robert Kelly]

Yes.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Who we're bringing in?

[Robert Kelly]

Well, this was. He was very big in the trial.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

Of P. Diddy. Because he was the guy when they said that she would have sex with paid male prostitutes and he would come in wearing a burqa when they were going.

[Jacob]

No. Diddy would come.

[Dante Nero]

Well, yeah. Yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

Diddy would wear.

[Jacob]

You should let him tell you.

[Robert Kelly]

No. Yeah, absolutely. Either way, he fucked Cassie in front of Diddy a bunch of times.

[Jacob]

Noice course of two to three years.

[Robert Kelly]

Wow.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Wow.

[Robert Kelly]

And he's also promoting a book freezer Meat about his battle with erection.

[Jacob]

He still strips too?

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

How old is he?

[Jacob]

50 something.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Where's he striped? Like Florida.

[Dante Nero]

Wow.

[Robert Kelly]

How long ago was the Diddy stuff?

[Jacob]

I don't know.

[Dante Nero]

I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

[Jacob]

But I. I could just say how I know him, right? So there was a time this, There was a time 90s where there were everything. There was male strippers in everything. Like that was the. You know, like if you had comedy and you had a stripper, it just was kind of the way. And he. I was kind of the top guy on the east coast and he was like a young dude. I was. That just was a good dude. And he came around and he was just one of the young youngins and some dude wouldn't pay him and so I ended up slapping the dude with a pistol and I got his money with the pistol.

[Robert Kelly]

Classic.

[Jacob]

Yeah. And. And we've been friends ever since.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Holy.

[Robert Kelly]

All right, man. Pleasure to meet you.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Hi, buddy. How you doing?

[Dante Nero]

I'm Rob.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Robert. Nice to meet you.

[Robert Kelly]

I just want to say. I want to say something right here. Jacob and Bobby, you guys look like goddamn for your 50s. I just want you guys to look at yourselves. Did it smack you right in the face? Jacob?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I mean, telling you the second he walked in. I got it.

[Robert Kelly]

Jacob's only. Jacob's only 49.

[Dante Nero]

I'll be 52.

[Robert Kelly]

Man.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He really. He really does look good. I didn't think you would look this good.

[Dante Nero]

I appreciate it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I understand. I understand why they hired you. Hey, how much do you cost now?

[Dante Nero]

It's negotiable.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

150 just to spit on my wife's and then I'll take over.

[Jacob]

Thanks for the l.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

She has a shitty accent too. You need your erectile dysfunction book on hand.

[Dante Nero]

Ah, beautiful.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Is that all you got? Your. Your sucker.

[Robert Kelly]

We should introduce them. We have to introduce.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You are such a good looking guy.

[Robert Kelly]

Very good looking guy.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. Dante, you are too.

[Jacob]

Thank you, bro.

[Robert Kelly]

You look fantastic.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Dante, you look fantastic.

[Robert Kelly]

Dante's 83. He looks unbelievable.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Did I ever tell you that, Dante? Can I ever tell you this, that you. You remind. You have the same face as my dad.

[Dante Nero]

Really? Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Like the same mouth.

[Robert Kelly]

Your rich daddy?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It's not rich. He was in Vietnam. He has no money. Just introduce our guest.

[Dante Nero]

I'm sorry.

[Robert Kelly]

Sorry. His new book, In Search of Freezer Meat. A self help book on male masculinity issues caused by erectile Dysfunction. Available right now on Amazon, it is Sheree Hayes, known everywhere now as the Punisher.

[Dante Nero]

Yes.

[Robert Kelly]

Welcome to the show, my man.

[Dante Nero]

Thank you, man.

[Robert Kelly]

I appreciate you being here.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah, I'm happy to be here.

[Robert Kelly]

Very, very exciting.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Have you met Frank Castle?

[Dante Nero]

I have not. I've not.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah, any version of him at all.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Except anyone you guys should meet that.

[Dante Nero]

Would be kind of cool. I would dig that.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I gotta be honest, dude. I.

[Robert Kelly]

But this Punisher actually does take care of your problems. Like a hero.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, he does.

[Robert Kelly]

If you can't satisfy your lady, like this one over here, he.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He takes care of realistic problems that most men have.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah, yeah. There's a market. There's a market.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I gotta be honest, when my. I'm friends with Dante, he calls me up, he's like, I'm gonna bring. I got the Punisher. And I lit up. I was like, oh, yeah? Yes. And I was so excited. And I passed out all the information to everybody on the crew. We got the Punisher, Dante. They're friends. They used to strip together. Doesn't make sense to me. I. I would never pull up my wing wang against this guy. And. And I.

[Robert Kelly]

They were a team. They weren't working against each other.

[Dante Nero]

And then.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You don't have. Stripping is. Jay. I guess you just. You didn't do it.

[Robert Kelly]

I know the girl. Strippers are bitchy with each other. I watch Jocelyn's Cabaret, so I'm not trying to make. I'm not trying to impress my black friends here, but I have a subscription to Zeus. Hey, I don't want to get excited, but you guys want my Zeus login available, So I.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And then they called me up and they inform me that you were the, you know, the updated, the more contemporary Punisher.

[Robert Kelly]

Well, no. This must be a whirlwind for you. Of all the stuff, having been out there so publicly, nationwide, worldwide. Really?

[Dante Nero]

Yeah, man, I. I didn't expect all this, but. But I'm embracing it, man. Like, you know, to get this type of publicity, this type of notoriety, it's embarrassing in the beginning, but I think I landed on my feet, you know, like, in terms of doing the interviews the way people perceive me for. For being flashed on CNN as a prostitutes doing pretty good. You know what I'm saying? So.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

But a male prostitute doesn't. For some reason, it has. It doesn't have the. It's kind of cool. Yeah.

[Dante Nero]

I mean, how many guys go through their life and say, women paid you.

[Robert Kelly]

To have sex with nobody in this room? I think, oh, I thought you just Had a question.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I did not. I got paid once.

[Robert Kelly]

Really?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No.

[Robert Kelly]

I don't know. Maybe you banged an old lady.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No, I paid an old lady to jerk me off once.

[Robert Kelly]

Anyways, the idea, it's almost like the nude beach theory. When you go, everyone there is awful. If. If A is paying, or is it often time the guy is paying or a couple's paying you to come?

[Dante Nero]

So it's both. Right, But. But. So the guys are very overt with it, you know, hey, dude, how much to sleep with my wife? You know, And I. I got a call on the way over here, believe it or not. You got a call, dude, man, can we come? Sends.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Me and Jay want to observe and.

[Robert Kelly]

I have a burka.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, we're gonna bring. We're gonna bring Paco. We're gonna film it. Listen, we'll make an awesome clip. You're gonna get a lot of views.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah. But the male stripper thing is a segue in because women are not overt. So they won't say how much for sex. They'll say how much for one on one, or how much do you do massages? So they kind of create a scenario.

[Jacob]

Where it could lead to sex.

[Dante Nero]

And, you know, so that gives me the opportunity to filter. Right. Because then I could say, hey, cool, whatever. You mind sending a photo? And if it's a workable situation.

[Robert Kelly]

I know what you mean.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah. Then I'll make the proposition.

[Robert Kelly]

She's like. It's a three swipe to see her whole body.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Dante Nero]

If it's Dante in a wig, we got a problem.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Her name's not. Her name's Peggy. She's a redhead.

[Jacob]

As if you could get me.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

One time. He could.

[Robert Kelly]

How often is it an individual woman where it's like, someone who's very attractive?

[Dante Nero]

Believe it or not, man. More than you would think.

[Robert Kelly]

Wealthy people don't want to meet people like new.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah. So we have a trend going on now where you get these very, like, divorced, wealthy, you know, kind of business women, and they'll just pop up to the club by themselves.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

There's a club?

[Dante Nero]

Yeah, so. So I run a male strip club on a weekend.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, really?

[Dante Nero]

Yeah. Called Hunklemania. Right.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

So is it underground or is it like a brick and mortar?

[Dante Nero]

Like, you can go, no, brick and mortar. We use, like, a nightclub in New York City. I'll get it from, let's say from 7 to 11.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Right.

[Dante Nero]

And so that'll be bachelorette parties, birthday parties. That's the majority. But every now and then you'll get just These women that show up alone, and they're usually always good looking, cute, well together girls. And you're like, why. Why is. Why is she in a male strip club by yourself, you know, on a random night? I'm not celebrating anything. And that's kind of like their way of kind of surveying their options. Right.

[Robert Kelly]

I guess you also just get to kind of like one off with like a guy, you know, is like, jacked.

[Jacob]

Yeah, right.

[Robert Kelly]

And you could see his pecker flinging around on stage. Or you can't pull your dick out.

[Dante Nero]

On stage here you can now. You can't. Not here. We used to. In the past that we used to do these one off shows where anything goes, but when you're in the city and it's every weekend, there's liquor licensing there, stuff like that. So you got to really follow.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You got to keep it in a little thing.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah, yeah, the, The. The. You know, that. The. The banana hammock, you know, not. Not the eye patch. You want to get something that hangs.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I have a kiwi hammock.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It's just my nuts.

[Robert Kelly]

How's your back? Because Dante's, I believe, permanently crippled from lifting fat women to do the flying.

[Jacob]

That was picking up the chicks.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

With.

[Jacob]

In the chair.

[Robert Kelly]

I watched those videos. The only thing that seemed. Those seem fun to watch. Yeah, something like that. What? Seemed crazy to me, we watched those not long ago. The lock in parties.

[Jacob]

Oh, the teddy bear.

[Robert Kelly]

Those are nuts. Yeah.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

Well, I don't know. They go like, New York lock in, break. Everyone just. And it's just a bunch of dudes and I guess they bring a bunch of like, girl prostitutes in and they just.

[Jacob]

Well, that was a thing for a while. I knew a couple of dudes who like, cameo.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

Used to do these locked door parties where you would get a text message where it was at. They didn't know where it was at. And then it would just be. All the str. Strippers would come and the strippers would. The female strippers would pay to come in. And then guys would just show up in droves and they would lock the door. Once they start, they would lock the door and it was just. They would have a room where you could pay to get in the room and they would. They would trick in the room. I actually.

[Robert Kelly]

But like, a guy's just like lining up, like, and a girl's just sitting there, like, talking to one of her friends while guys like, all right, all right, move over.

[Jacob]

I did a. A live sex act at one of those parties with Remember Ebony A's?

[Robert Kelly]

Yes.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

Because this dude. Somebody didn't show up. And they were like, could you. I was like, okay.

[Robert Kelly]

Oh, Bobby's confused, and so is Jacob. It's a. It's a black porn star.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

God, you guys are so proud of your filth. You have filth. Knowledge is your pride and joy, you hear? He went, yes.

[Robert Kelly]

We were interviewing on SDR show.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yes. Stupid. He called you dumb, right? He said, you know. Yeah, face, everybody knows.

[Robert Kelly]

78 on SDR show. A couple years back, we were interviewing Heather Hunter.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

And she brought a friend with her, and she was like, I'm surprised you knew who I was. To me. And I was like, oh, come on. I knew all the hot black porn stars at the time. And I was like, heather Hunter. I go, you Janet Jackme? And then her friend goes, I'm Janet Jackmer. What was the approach Punisher, for them calling you to get? Was it just like any other phone call you got?

[Dante Nero]

Yeah, it wasn't through.

[Robert Kelly]

Like, it didn't seem very secretive.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And, like, did you ever preface that? Did you have a reputation where it's like, this is the best dude? Well, like, you know, like, comics. Like, this guy's funny. That. And we'll get, you know, calls. Are we going to have you do this? Do you, like, known for being the best or the biggest or the baddest?

[Dante Nero]

No, not at all, man. Not. Not that I would know of. Like, when she called, she called as if she was just doing a regular birthday party. Said, it's my birthday. I got some friends over. I just want to hire a person to dance. So I think I'm showing up to a hotel room full of friends, and she pretty much opened the door in a bathroom bathrobe that suggestively nude, and it was like, well, this is definitely not a birthday party.

[Jacob]

He's also being modest. Let me say this for the record, because when, like, he was the generation after me. Right?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Right.

[Jacob]

And I was one of the top guys. Obi Wan at the time.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You were top guy. I don't say that like, I'm sorry to make you mad.

[Dante Nero]

No, no.

[Robert Kelly]

I mean, it sounded like. It sounded like you didn't believe him. I believe you.

[Jacob]

I don't know. I don't.

[Dante Nero]

No, no. He was really like. Like. Like the. Like, you saw, you. I've got eras. Like, you had Michael Jordan and you had Kobe Bryant.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Dante Nero]

So you had Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant. He was Michael. Yeah, he was Michael.

[Jacob]

When I left, he was definitely Kobe. What was your stage name again, mandingo?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Sorry, Prince. God, what a great stage name. I mean, it says it all, doesn't it?

[Robert Kelly]

You have to have a big dick.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That'd be.

[Robert Kelly]

Or you're just being pull up. Pure irony. You have to have. You're right. If your name's Mandingo, the biggest or the smallest.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

The smallest dick. When you show up and he goes, what?

[Robert Kelly]

Because if you have the smallest dick and his Mandingo, they will come back the next week. Like, no, you have to see this. They make a big deal about his name is Mandingo. And then he just got a little.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

But it's small. Exactly.

[Robert Kelly]

Right.

[Jacob]

But when I stopped, his name was. He was the guy.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Right? He was the guy.

[Robert Kelly]

Did you stop for comedy, Dante?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No.

[Jacob]

Yeah, I stopped. I stopped in 99. I started. I started doing comedy in 2000.

[Robert Kelly]

Okay.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

So they must have heard about him. You must have heard about you and be like, this is the guy.

[Dante Nero]

Probably.

[Jacob]

Probably. I would say so.

[Robert Kelly]

It's like a lot of word of mouth business. Was it like app based? Mostly.

[Dante Nero]

Well, so you. I. I used to advertise on Google, so if you Google search. That came up. But I, I did have a reputation in the city. Like if you were going to hire.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

Is this the first famous people. Without giving names. Are the first famous people you've been mixed up with?

[Dante Nero]

Nah, not necessarily.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, spit it out. Who was it?

[Dante Nero]

Who was it?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Clinton. The Clintons? You ate Clinton's.

[Dante Nero]

Listen, honestly, man, you'll be surprised.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Really? How surprised? If. Give us three guesses. If we get it, you tell us.

[Robert Kelly]

Do you. Tina Turner while Ike wore a beekeeper's outfit. Go on, suck his dick now.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Is it. Is it famous in movies or politician type thing?

[Dante Nero]

I'm. I'm talking about like household. Tv.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

TV people.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is. This is. This is normal stuff, man. Right? It's normal.

[Jacob]

Wow.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

God, that's awesome. Like famous famous. Like one awards.

[Dante Nero]

Like fame is famous, like another billionaire type of thing.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No, that's. That really brings it down. You Tom Cruise.

[Robert Kelly]

Got it.

[Dante Nero]

No, if any, it would be Tom Cruise's wife. Let's get that right.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And the Punisher, you know, so you never. But that must be a thing too. You must run into it where there's some gay stuff where guys like, hey man, I'll give you this. And you got to have some boundaries.

[Dante Nero]

Right? You got to set your boundaries from the beginning. Right. You know that that's always going to persist. Like seriously, for a male dancer or whatever. You get like the solicitation for gay stuff, like daily. Right, right. So if you got to set your boundaries quicker, like for some reason there's a thing where for some reason gay guys pursue straight guys. I don't, I don't know what that's about.

[Robert Kelly]

Are delicious tight asses.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Which one am I? Hang on a second.

[Robert Kelly]

Which are beautiful, untapped.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Am I the gay guy or the straight guy? I don't, doesn't. I don't know.

[Dante Nero]

So, so, so that, that's, that's a constant. But you, you, you know, you kind of, you, you set your boundaries straightforward, you know, so well.

[Robert Kelly]

That's all. But you do have to get over. It's like a maturity to that too. Especially like young black culture. There's such a machismo and like homophobia kind of like built into it. Do you do have to get over. Even see like in pornographer and like porn pornography. Talking to school in porn. A lot of dick touching and DP stuff. You know, I mean, you have to get over like a little bit of that, like homophobia or like fear of like, of this habit if a guy. You have to be okay with a guy jerking off in a room while you're his chair.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah. And I mean, I struggled with that. Like, that was part of my.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I struggled when Dan left. I struggled to get this job. A lot of guys jerking off in a room for me to sit in this chair. So it's fair. That's why, that's why Norton left you also.

[Jacob]

You got to set those boundaries before those boundaries are questions. Like for instance, like I, I said I would never sell my body. Right. But when I made that point, nobody wanted to buy it. Right? So it was like early on when nobody gave a about me and I was like, I don't sell my body.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't.

[Jacob]

And then when I got solicited, I was like, I don't, I don't. I don't sell them. I don't do that.

[Robert Kelly]

Is that what happens when I say I do is it goes. I don't even want to play arenas, dude. I like clubs, theaters, dude. That's for boat weird ever theaters. I like to be connected to the audience. Everyone could play a arena.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I love doing Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday and not selling out all them. That's not art.

[Jacob]

Well, there's a reason because I. We know a guy who, you know, got called for, you know, I want you to come my wife down fire you down to Florida.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Mike Calca.

[Jacob]

I'll give you, I'll give you 1200 and the guy was like, all right, and, you know, we'll hang out. Then called him back again. He was like, I want.

[Dante Nero]

We.

[Jacob]

We're gonna. My wife.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh.

[Jacob]

Then it was like, I want you to. Me and my wife. Now, he said he didn't do it, but this dude that he was paid, like, dudes have long money. So say if you go 12, 1200 to his wife. And then you go. He. You go, I don't really want to fuck you with your wife. He goes, all right, five grand, you know?

[Dante Nero]

All right?

[Jacob]

Then he goes, I want you to fuck me and my wife. And he goes, 50 grand.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It goes back down for me. I go back down to 2200.

[Robert Kelly]

Okay?

[Jacob]

Now we're talking 20 to 50 an hour.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I get a discount.

[Robert Kelly]

Now we're brainstorming.

[Jacob]

So. So, you know, you got people that have long money like that. If you don't set the boundaries, then you can always cross them because you're at that moment.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Is there a. Is there. I'm not saying this. I mean, but is there a. If a guy was like, listen, man, I'm gonna give you a million bucks cash. No one's gonna know about it. And I want, I want. Me, you and my wife are gonna do some weird shit.

[Dante Nero]

I mean, look, man, me and my friends play this game, right? And we say, stupid stuff, yo, 10 grand, you walk through Harlem with a dildo on your head. You know what I'm saying? Like, stupid stuff like that.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Jay sent my dick for a bento box of desserts, right?

[Robert Kelly]

There's Biscoff butter in it.

[Dante Nero]

And I, I. I will say this 100%. I am a 1000% straight guy. Right?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Me too.

[Dante Nero]

You say something crazy, like a million dollars, sure. I'm gonna say, I'm gonna hire the best therapist. I hire the best therapist, I'm gonna make it through on the other side. But I'm cashing that check.

[Jacob]

You know what I'm saying?

[Dante Nero]

Like, there is a number that you just. Hey, yo, I gotta take one for the team.

[Robert Kelly]

You gotta do what you got.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It's cash. I'm gonna give you cash. And I have use code bonfire. You get 10% off.

[Dante Nero]

Bonfire.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

Better help is I have a great therapist, too.

[Dante Nero]

So, I mean. But look, the real, the realistic part about it is when all you selling is your looks, the world is full of beautiful people, right? So the idea of somebody handing you a million bucks for something like that or whatever is like, yeah, right. You know, I'm saying. So those propositions, I'm sure they happen like somebody getting struck by lightning. Right. But you know.

[Jacob]

Yeah, it doesn't happen.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I remember I said that. Went to Norton one night. I think I told you this. I was like, would you let a guy if he had a million dollars cash? No one ever knows you're gonna give me a million dollars cash and you have to suck his dick? He goes, yeah, I paid a black chick 500 to shit on my chest yesterday.

[Robert Kelly]

So.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you.

[Robert Kelly]

I say, I assume he said you said a gay stuff happened or. Offers come in every day for that, but never for money that's ever made.

[Dante Nero]

You blink twice, so you don't let it get there. Sure. Like he said. What he said was, you know, I just. You just shut it down before he makes.

[Robert Kelly]

You have to make a decision.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you shut it down. But, but, but like I said, honestly, being I've been in the business 30 years, right, the amount of money for a sexual experience is gonna cap. You know what I'm saying? And where it's capped at is something I would never consider.

[Robert Kelly]

But you said also you're selling looks. But it's not just look. Like, especially if somebody wants to watch, you have to be selling like putting on a show too, to some degree, you know? I mean, you can't just like. You can't just fuck for like the, the pleasure of the girl only you have to like. Yeah, you're put on a show too, I guess, right?

[Dante Nero]

Yeah, yeah, of course, of course. And, but, but a lot of. But look, sex is sex, right? Like, it's. It's. But so creative you're gonna be, right? It's how many different ways you're gonna do missionary, doggy style, whatever the case may be. So. So. Yeah, so. So there. So there's a. There's always a visual attraction or something that the ambiance is what I want to see, you know? And then you create it the best you can, right? But it's interchangeable. It's like us with hot girls, right? You see this one girl and she's like, oh my God, most beautiful chick I ever seen. And then you, you. You sleeping with her for six months and now not so much. You know what I'm saying?

[Robert Kelly]

Is that the old. Whatever you call that, like the saying, it's like for every smoking hot chick, there's a guy who's sick of her right around the corner.

[Jacob]

Let me just say for the record, this, I'm tearing up because what he just said then takes years to learn. It just feels so good. That you.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, Sensei's proud cock. Miyagi is proud of you.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah, it was a lot of wax on, wax off. A lot of wax on, wax off.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

So. So when you go into these, do you have, like. Do you have to have like, outfits and stuff like that? Or is there like a. Hey, be a cop. Or you have like that crazy silly.

[Jacob]

Do you do bring up his pictures? The Punisher? Yeah, he does.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You show up in a vest.

[Robert Kelly]

It's like a character.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It kind of makes a pretty good interest, you know? It. It. It'll be the. If you go to my Instagram at get punished dude, it'll be like the second picture.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

So when you go in there and you like. So you go with these girls, though, are you. You have to be safe, right? You wearing condoms? Are you? And these. These guys want you to go down on women. And. And I mean, is there any instance where it's like, oh, this chick smells and this is dirty and I'm scared.

[Dante Nero]

And really, I mean, I'm gonna screen, right?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Right?

[Dante Nero]

I'm gonna screen whoever I. I go. So. So the benefit that I have is that I never worked for an agency, okay? So the guys that work for an agency. Cause the agency gets a commission. Wherever they send you, you gotta go, right? You know what I'm saying? So you could walk into, literally, like I said earlier, Dante with a wig. And you gotta do what you gotta do, right? Because I do my own thing. I can get the call, send a photo. When it's guys calling for their wife, they wanna send you a photo. Oh, check my wife out. She's so hot. You know what I'm saying? So you get an idea of what you can do. And one smart thing that I do is I never answer the phone as myself.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

How do you do it?

[Dante Nero]

They'll call.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Hello?

[Dante Nero]

Yeah. Yeah, this is Tony. Like my alias is Tony, right? So I say, this is Tony, I'll say, hey, let me see what I can put together for you. And if it's. If it's chick looks good, then, hey.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Send over the picture of the chick. And if the gabagool's right, we'll fucking do the. We'll do the bingos.

[Robert Kelly]

Bing, bang, boomy.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, that's you.

[Dante Nero]

Wow.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I wore that for Halloween last year. It's so fucking wild.

[Robert Kelly]

Same size, too.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Except the part in the chest with the hole that's in my car was coming up. Yeah, same size. Wow, dude, you're in shape.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And you have a big penis. Geez. God. Loves you.

[Robert Kelly]

That's a thousand questions about that, too. But I don't want to ask about the book first. Or the first.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Let's not. Let's not go to Impetus yet. Let's go. Let's go to the him. Wow. Is that you?

[Dante Nero]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Are you in the movie Apocalypto? Holy.

[Robert Kelly]

Dante was carved from the ruins.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Prince dude, do you still have that outfit?

[Jacob]

Probably.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Will you wear it to Max's birthday next year?

[Jacob]

Absolutely.

[Robert Kelly]

Bring back the old routine.

[Jacob]

Hey, you notice how mine's is in black and white? Right?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Prince Mandingo and Punishers.

[Robert Kelly]

You come to Max's birthday party.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You'Re.

[Robert Kelly]

Gonna have your po. Your Polish wife from Massachusetts gonna call the cops on both of them. They're dressed crazy.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No, she's not. I think she has a thing for Dante. That's so funny.

[Robert Kelly]

Christine would send me out for cigarettes. Go grab cigarettes.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Why don't you go do your manjaro?

[Robert Kelly]

Listen, take your manjaro.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That is so funny. The difference between the photos. Your photo is so badass. Dante's looks like something they found on a cave wall.

[Robert Kelly]

Dante's the model for the first Kama Sutra.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You can see they used to have a prince. The cave.

[Jacob]

There's folklore for my picture.

[Robert Kelly]

That was before the white man came and brought dise. Famine and disease brought by the white man. It was a better time.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Tower wearing this outfit like they said, like one of the time.

[Dante Nero]

I mean, you don't show up to the building.

[Robert Kelly]

Punisher 3F, 8:15pm I'll see you guys in an hour. I got Punisher coming up.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Send him up. Oh, there's only one day a year he could show up like that. One day a year, he can show up to the hotel like that.

[Robert Kelly]

So I do want to start at the beginning. So you. When you get a call, it's like any other. You said.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah. I just think I'm going to a birthday party. She doesn't even say who she is. She says her name is Janet. And I just show up. We set a time that's a normal thing. They call you get a location, a time. Give them a price.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. Ms. Jackson, if you're nasty. Did she say that? No.

[Dante Nero]

Okay.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He does. He's a musical genius.

[Robert Kelly]

Can I tell you something? Why? Yeah, I was gonna go, Janet. I was just gonna say, Ms. Jackson, if you're nasty. And then you spoke up and you said it. And I was like, I feel like. I feel like Dante. You're doing so good. That was such a good one.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I love you.

[Robert Kelly]

Man, Ms. Jackson.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah, so, yeah, so. And then, honestly, I think it's a party. So I quote 200 bucks at the time to do a little striptease was $200. And so I show up, she's in the bathrobe, nude. She brings me in, it's empty. And then so I just go along with it, like, hey, so you want me to change here to dance? She immediately was like, look, I don't want you to dance. I'm trying to make this scene. We're gonna put baby oil on each other, make it look sexy, and then my husband's gonna come out at some point and watch. And before I could even answer, she said, handed me a stack of money. So as soon as I got the money, I was like, in here. Straight into the bag.

[Robert Kelly]

Crazy hot.

[Dante Nero]

What's up, yo? Crazy.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

How much did it wind up being?

[Dante Nero]

Two grand.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Wow. Nice. From 200.

[Dante Nero]

200 to two grand. And then the cool thing about it is it would be two grand. But when they would call, I would go Friday night, Saturday, Sunday night. So it's like two grand. Two grand. Two grand.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That's six grand.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah, it's full of like. Yeah, it wasn't that.

[Robert Kelly]

Oh, so when you go, you go, miss several days in a row. Yeah, hotels.

[Dante Nero]

Always hotels.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Was it longer, shorter some nights?

[Dante Nero]

No, it was always the. So the. The. The sex itself or the sexual interaction was always like normal. 30, 45 minutes. But sometimes I'll be waiting.

[Robert Kelly]

Jacob hasn't blink since you said 30, 45 minutes.

[Dante Nero]

So. So Jason's eyes is dry as.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Buddy, I just pretended like I didn't hear it. 34, 45 minutes.

[Dante Nero]

45 minutes.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Normal, stuck out. No, you didn't.

[Robert Kelly]

30, 45 minutes.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You didn't have saltines like 10 minutes in N, man.

[Dante Nero]

30, 45 minutes. No, no, no, man. So. So. But dude, sometimes I'll be there for hours. They have me get there at 2am we won't start.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Was it messing around at 5am Was it good, though? Like, she looks so hot. She looks smoking hot. But having sex with her did it, like, was it. Wow. She. She was so. Was she that good?

[Dante Nero]

So I'm gonna tell you the first time, I couldn't even do it right because literally, man, him. Him walking out basically butt naked with the covering.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You knew it was him.

[Dante Nero]

I did not. Oh, I did not.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, you knew who. When she opened the door for the first time, you knew it was.

[Dante Nero]

I didn't. I didn't recognize.

[Robert Kelly]

She wasn't that famous.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah, I didn't recognize her.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

So you didn't know you just had just a couple?

[Robert Kelly]

Jacob Lawrence.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah, I thought it was just a couple. And I thought I was like, yo, the chick is super hot. I did try to do Google searches and stuff like that, but because she introduced themselves as married. I'm googling married celebrity couples, and I'm not getting. Anything's not coming up. Cause they're not married. So even though I'm there and she's super hot, I could not.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You couldn't do it. So what'd you have to do? You just have to do other things.

[Dante Nero]

So the first time I just did the massage thing or whatever. They still paid me the two grand. She asked me, do you want to finish? Or whatever. I tried to play the high road. Like, no, I'm just here for you guys. I don't. Don't worry about it. I don't want to.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

What was he doing?

[Dante Nero]

Dude, the whole time he was across the room, he was completely naked with that hijab on. And then he was just mad whacking, like, pacing. Pacing back and forth, giving directions. Hey, move to the left, move to the right. Move the camera.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You didn't know it was P. Did anyone. Was that where he was just yelling at you? Come on. I do it.

[Dante Nero]

I did not.

[Robert Kelly]

Come now.

[Dante Nero]

Come now.

[Robert Kelly]

Come now, come now.

[Dante Nero]

Come now.

[Jacob]

Take that.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Take that.

[Jacob]

There you go.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, dude. Thanks. I was hoping Jay would fill me in. My master.

[Jacob]

He was waiting to see if you were going to come up with a reference.

[Robert Kelly]

He gave instruction to you or to her.

[Dante Nero]

He never spoke to me. Never spoke to me.

[Robert Kelly]

Disrespectful.

[Dante Nero]

Everything was. Everything was directed to her, and that was the direction she gave me. She said, don't look at him, don't acknowledge him, don't talk to him. Act like he wasn't there. So obviously autistic kid.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah, so he'll freak out if you say the word orange.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Also, don't touch his ears.

[Dante Nero]

Yes.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Furiously whacking off.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah.

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Today and get ready to save more Lowe's we help you save Loyalty program subject to terms and conditions. Details@lowe's.com terms subject to change so the after the first time she was like, hey look, I want to call you again when we're in town or whatever. So I knew when she called I just Would like over medicate. Like any pill I could find, I'm taking. And that day, that first day, I took a Cialis, but did not work. I had too much anxiety, right? So the next time I was taking like Cialis Viagra, I rolled down to like these different shots. Got something called trio power Zen 3000.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Have you tried Body Brain Coffee by Louis J. Gomez? Just a suggestion.

[Dante Nero]

I have not tried.

[Robert Kelly]

There's Tomcat Ali, the guy who fought John Claude.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Just a real quick plug. Paco, get that to Louis.

[Dante Nero]

So back to your question about my enjoyment of it. I was so overly medicated. I don't know if anybody, like took like a high milligram pill. You almost go numb. Like you'll get the erection, but you feel right. I can't feel anything. Like it was issues trying to orgasm.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I did that. And when I went to Brazil, I wanted. Because you just go in and get Viagra at the pharmacy. And I just. I was like, give me all you got.

[Robert Kelly]

And I was just.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I popped a pill and my head turned red and I was just like. It was just. I felt nothing.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah, you feel nothing. Yeah, I mean, that's. That's.

[Robert Kelly]

I was like that opiates or something like oxys or something. I get. I can get hard, but it would feel like nothing was happening, right? You just like forever until everyone's dry.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

So now real. Just a side question. Does Puffy. Did you see his penis? Is he got a piece.

[Dante Nero]

I. I did not, man.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He never looked.

[Dante Nero]

I'm. Dude, he's. He's whacking.

[Robert Kelly]

If you'd have known it was P. Did. He probably would have looked though, just to.

[Dante Nero]

No, I mean, at some point I did realize who it was. Like, I didn't. It didn't go the whole time. Like, I. I did this with him for two and a half years. So I found out. About a year. Fifteen months in, looking at the tv.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Dante Nero]

You know, they put me.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Look, I know he's getting out and he's gonna be around and you don't want. But just. You saw it. Look at me, Freddy. Come on.

[Dante Nero]

Yo, listen.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yo, yo, yo.

[Dante Nero]

I would say it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You got my back. You got me.

[Jacob]

Okay, look, listen.

[Robert Kelly]

You're worried that black Lou's gonna take us back to black people, but he only hangs around with white people.

[Jacob]

You got. You gotta understand. Black dudes don't want to see a guy's piece.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, it's only white guys. Okay. Yeah.

[Dante Nero]

And then I'm already trying to concentrate in this moment. I don't want A peace visual. You know what I'm saying? Especially active piece. Like, I could hear the. Like, I don't want to know what that.

[Jacob]

Who's making macaroni and cheese?

[Dante Nero]

Yeah, dude. It was disturbingly loud.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It is a white guy. That is a white guy thing. Let me just take a quick peek. I remember me and Sherrod hooked up in Vegas, and I was like, I got to look at it. And, holy shit, did I stare for a long time. Can I give you a little advice also? Celery juice.

[Dante Nero]

Celery juice.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That's the tip.

[Dante Nero]

Oh. Oh. I'm past that. I'm bionic.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Hey, Jacob. Jacob. He's a professional. You watch women's volleyball by yourself with your fucking tips, sipping celery.

[Robert Kelly]

Jacob.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You're right.

[Robert Kelly]

Would you mind telling Punisher what's the best position to get all of your big, humongous, fat cops inside of a woman?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I have nothing to teach you.

[Dante Nero]

Celery juice.

[Robert Kelly]

Hey, Jacob, when you're throwing back shots, what do you do to stop the pussy from queefing because it can't handle your big, enormous skirt? Would you like to tell Punisher?

[Dante Nero]

Maybe some advice?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I feel foolish. Punisher, you know, you ever do a rubber band workout? Every Saturday. Jacob runs a little thing on Zoom if you want to jump in.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah. Hey, Punisher, little piece of advice for me, too. You know, if you eat pussy for 30 of those 45 minutes, doesn't matter if your dick's that big or not.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That's called the Patrice o' Neill technique. Technique. I got a little tiny wee wee, and I'm black. Just eat a. And use a vibrator on a clit. That's so. So you're doing this with her, and there's a point where you're going back and back. You're making this money. So it's a regular thing, right? And is there a point where it does. You do perform and you guys are hitting it and it's. Do you ever enjoy it? You ever, like, get into it?

[Dante Nero]

Yeah. So, I mean, so it's an ego thing, right? Like, I'm still sleeping with this super hot chick, right? So there's always an ego.

[Robert Kelly]

And they're paying you to, right?

[Dante Nero]

Yeah, there's always an ego aspect to it. You know, her reactions and stuff is. You know, I feel like the man. And. And there was one time specifically where we. We. We was always in the living room, but we moved to a bedroom. So now he is close. He's, like, hovering around the bed and literally in the middle of me. Her. He takes a stack of money.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Dante Nero]

And he slams it on the bed, you know what I'm saying? Like, at a strip club. And we're both like, what the hell? And he's like, yeah, I like that shit. So I'm like, well, all right. I'm putting my work in. You know what I'm saying? Like, like, you know, like, I'm getting. I was like, this is gonna be a good day of pain today, you know?

[Jacob]

But you get him on the run. You keep them on the run. You go, go, go, go.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah, yeah. So. So I. I got some cues, but, you know, dude, it was going on for so long, for so many years.

[Robert Kelly]

Did they know that you knew who they were?

[Dante Nero]

I think. I think so. It was shortly after that time. I seen it on the tv.

[Jacob]

When.

[Dante Nero]

Then he ditched. Oh, really? Yeah. So at some point, he just said, forget. He was just. He still was wearing, like, a baseball cap. I don't know why, but he's wearing a baseball cap.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

But disguise went. The disguise got less and less. He went in one last time. He had a monocle.

[Robert Kelly]

Yeah. He said, funny mustache.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Dante Nero]

So it went to, like, a baseball cap. And then it was again. I never spoke to him. Never. I never even had direct eye contact with him, so.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And that was a rule. That's just YouTube.

[Robert Kelly]

But he's also giving you. I guess he's like, you know, by of some accounts, a dangerous guy, but he's given you a lot of info. Like, at that point, you know, I mean, like, you have. You have something on him immediately. There was never anything like, anything or like, they never asked you any of this like that. Like, like, it's trusting. It's very trusting of you to be like, once. He's like, yeah, fuck it, I'm wearing the baseball hat. He knows there's a person out there who knows he's into this thing.

[Jacob]

Yeah. But it's still six stacks a weekend. Like, why would you.

[Dante Nero]

That.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It's also. It's also, you know, a professional thing until. But he.

[Robert Kelly]

But until.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I mean, he. They. There are other guys that they involved in this that he did make sign NDAs.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, really?

[Dante Nero]

Like that. But it's not good.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You were.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah, it just never got that. It just never got to that point with me.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Now, there was a thing where I, I. I followed the trial a little bit, but there was a thing where he. Someone had to come, and then she had to take that.

[Dante Nero]

That was me.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Okay, can you explain that to me? But slowly, with your shirt off. Dante, you take your shirt off too. Jacob. Fuck it. Go ahead, take yours off.

[Dante Nero]

So. So I have very specific instructions, right, that once sex was over, I, I, it was like, almost mandatory that I have orgasm. Yeah, right. So. And then I was instructed that I needed to orgasm specifically all around the outside of her vagina, which at first I was just like, oh, this is cool. You know, Money shop, right? I didn't think anything of it, but I noticed, you know, because we used so much baby oil, the scenes would be covered in sheets. We would start in towels, but right after I would finish, he would pop up and walk out the room. And she would just get up and immediately follow him. And I noticed she was following him in a way where she was kind of making sure none of my semen. Like baby kangaroos off of her.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, like baby kangaroos in her pouch.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah, yeah. She's like, she's like walking, like, trying to stop. And then she would follow him in. So I started to suspect, all right, they're doing something with it. And then she confirmed on the stand that she would take it off of her and rub it on his nipples. Like, which I gotta tell you, Punisher.

[Robert Kelly]

I gotta tell you, I never saw this kind of behavior when I did Bad Boys, a comedy backstage area. There did not nobody's spirit of. I did meet Screech. I met Screech there.

[Jacob]

Didn't they, didn't they make you wear Sean Jon close.

[Robert Kelly]

They made me wear Shawn John clothes. And he was technically. When you signed the contract, you remember that he was your manager for three years, but with. No, he won't do anything as your manager if you get anything for three years in comedy after doing that show. He gets a temper like managerial cut. Because he'll soon. Yeah, you got that because you were.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

On pd and then you have to come and rub it on his nipples.

[Jacob]

Now here's the thing. Did they not have a Sean John Burker at the. No time. Did you not see that?

[Robert Kelly]

And that lady looked for everything in my size. They had to dig deep to find a 3x short sleeve. Zip up Sean John.

[Dante Nero]

There it is. There he is.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You never went to. You never went to a party like these, These freak offs. Were you ever flown in for that?

[Robert Kelly]

It was the freak off.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they had, they had these other things that were the.

[Dante Nero]

That's a misconception. Everybody thinks there were these. I even me, myself, large audience, but not. It was always quiet. Another guy.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, I mean, they made it so those Kids there was freak offs. There's a thing in the basement where they went and they did ceremonies.

[Dante Nero]

Black blackmail footage. All these celebrities are supposed to be recorded doing crazy stuff. And it was all just, it's just.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You jerking off on her, spilling on his nipples.

[Robert Kelly]

We got to take our first commercial break because we're going to come back. There's so much more to I'm going.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

To say right now. The other, the other, the other punishment. I'm so glad we would have been talking about.

[Robert Kelly]

God, I'd be way out of question. So you ride motorcycles with Norman Reedus. What's that like? Sheree Hayes, the Punisher's book is in search of freezer meat. We're going to talk about that when we come back to a self help book on male masculinity issues caused by erectile dysfunction available right now on Amazon. What be back with Dante Nero and the Punisher. Mr. Bonfire, it's the bonfire. We're back. Robert Kelly, big Jokerson here. We got Dante Nero hanging out with us.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

Sheree Hayes, the Punisher. Talk us everything about this trial. Oh, so much info. That's crazy. Is it weird to see it on play playing out in public like that? And you kind of know stuff and you also know when things are wrong.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah, yeah. So the crazy thing about it is because obviously nothing's coming out because it's, it's federal so they can't put the cameras in there. There's somebody like dictating the. What's supposed to be said in the court and it dudes like 25 of the information, man. Like I came off to stand and I'm looking at it like, yo, I didn't even say that. You know what I'm saying? Like it's, it's so much misinformation that was put out there and out of context that everybody's now trying to have an opinion or tried to have an opinion of what would happen, what would, what the verdict would be if he was guilty. It's, it's really like bad.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

When you were on the stand, he was there.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Looking at you. Was he stand? Was he like, like glaring at you? Like, oh, is he cool?

[Dante Nero]

Everybody was glaring at me. Every, the whole, everybody. Because his whole family's there. He got nine attorneys.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Right.

[Dante Nero]

They're all glaring at me.

[Robert Kelly]

Who called you in to court?

[Dante Nero]

The prosecution.

[Robert Kelly]

How did they find out the thing though, that it was you? Like, oh, she, she gave them.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah, she gave them.

[Robert Kelly]

So you would have not ever tried to jump into this at all hell no, man.

[Dante Nero]

I didn't want that.

[Robert Kelly]

Because also, you don't really have anything behind the scenes more than just like the sexual thing. You didn't see them argue and stuff?

[Dante Nero]

I didn't see anything. I. I didn't even think they were going to use me. I thought my testimony was. Was. Was insignificant. Insignificant, right. So I was in denial, like, literally up until like four days before I got on the stand. I was like, ah, they're not gonna use me. They're not gonna use me. They're just doing their due diligence. It was like, you're going up Monday. I'm like, what? You know, like, I was not.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Were you nervous? Like when you walked when you saw Diddy and he's looking at you dressed.

[Robert Kelly]

In your Punisher outfit on the stand?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Did you dress it up?

[Dante Nero]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

Punisher, he goes gone. Big glass of celery juice.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, it was definitely chili in there.

[Dante Nero]

It was definitely chilly in there.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Dante walked him in with his dance.

[Robert Kelly]

Man, Dingo.

[Dante Nero]

That was the Jewish version. Now it was absolutely nerve wracking, man.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

So funny because he Is he just staring at you the whole time.

[Dante Nero]

So I'm so. I'm trying to. It's funny. It's almost like when we did scenes. I'm trying not to look peripheral, right?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You knew how to do this.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I have some practice, right? So I am not. I avoided eye contact with him. Him at all costs. Man walking in, I gotta avoid his family because they don't know what I'm gonna say. And then I'm walking in for the prosecution, right? So it's just like, who is this guy?

[Robert Kelly]

Like usually ask him. Like, they go, is the defendant. Do you see the defendant in the room? And you should have made him put a burqa on him, start wiping off and be like, that is him.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah. Which I was happy with that because even with that did have to do that part. But they did photos like on a. Like on a iPad. Like, I didn't have to like, look. No, I didn't.

[Robert Kelly]

Thank God. What a weird thing to do.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Did you have to? Well, did. When you're on the stand, did they tell the story about him. Her taking his. Your jizz and rubbing?

[Dante Nero]

They didn't say that part, but I had to. Which was like. Like his daughters is in there, right? So I gotta say his dad butt naked with the job, masturbating. You know what I'm saying? Giving directions. I had to really give those details.

[Robert Kelly]

Big up to each other. Like this. That's dad.

[Dante Nero]

All right.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That's dad. Yeah.

[Dante Nero]

So, yeah, so that was rough, man. And so what I did purposely was I just blocked them out. But I did do the eye contact thing on the way out. Like I just had to get on the way out a little.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You just rubbed your nipples. You're like, what's up, son?

[Dante Nero]

Nah, I didn't do that. But surprisingly, which I was happy with, there was no, like, his face was just like, like almost like a cool. You know what I'm saying?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Like, you didn't, you didn't him. You just told him. You didn't lie.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah, I just told the truth. Nothing was biased. It wasn't, you know, trying to throw him up. Yeah, nothing. Trying to throw him under the bus.

[Robert Kelly]

With the energy in the room, like of the courtroom. Did you, do you have a feeling or were you blown away that he got off, I mean on like the major charges.

[Dante Nero]

So I, I, I always thought he was going to get off. It's just. Right, of course you did, right.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You did your job right. Punisher you $2,000 a night. Sure.

[Dante Nero]

Take that, take that, take that.

[Robert Kelly]

So nine, five, nine.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Dante Nero]

So I always thought with the sex trafficking charge, right? Like, this is his girlfriend. They've been in a relationship for 10 years, right. And now you got text messages between both of them. Forget the sex stuff. Just, I love you, I care about you. You can tell her in a relationship. Then there's hundreds of messages. Oh, this freak off was so hot. I enjoyed it. All this consent. And then the prosecution says, but you only got to pick one time where you think she was coerced and you can convict him on that. And I was like, that's, that, that's any guy, right? That's any guy. You can now you, you sex trafficked your wife or your girlfriend if she didn't want to and you rolled over. Come on, let's do it. Like you can't shift that to that. So I never thought it was.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Well, it's crazy. They went for the fences and if they just went for the abuse or the, the violence when he beat. But they could out of it.

[Dante Nero]

But they couldn't.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Why not?

[Dante Nero]

Statue of limitations.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Long ago. So they had to go for the fence. Yeah, they had to. They had for Rico and the man acted.

[Robert Kelly]

So is the actual traveling for prostitution, is that, is he convicted of, is the thing you were involved in?

[Dante Nero]

No, I wasn't even involved in that. So I think what they're trying to do is say that his, that Cassie and the Other girl, Jane Doe, that they were trafficked.

[Robert Kelly]

Oh, okay.

[Dante Nero]

And. And so they. They didn't associate the. The male sex workers, but they do have his credit card statements with plane tickets bought, like, hotels booked. And so they're. They're saying because the prostitution took place and the girls traveled down or met them certain area, but it's like, that's every guy. Like, what most guys in the good position. How many people haven't flown a girl somewhere? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like. Like Uber.

[Jacob]

How about Uber?

[Robert Kelly]

Christine took a mega bus to see me in Virginia once.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I had a chick take.

[Robert Kelly]

It was the fun.

[Dante Nero]

That's traffic. Especially if you paid the $12.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I had a chick from Staten island to the ferry.

[Robert Kelly]

I don't think I did.

[Jacob]

That's it.

[Robert Kelly]

I don't think I paid her $12.

[Jacob]

Oh, you're good.

[Dante Nero]

You're good. If you paid the 12 for the.

[Robert Kelly]

Mega bucks, you wanted it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Did you. Did you now with all the. I mean, now everybody knows the law. Everybody knows that, you know, you did pro. Your prostitute. Prostitute, I guess, is, you know, it.

[Dante Nero]

Is what it is.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

But. But now are they. Are you nervous about maybe them coming after you for that and knowing of being more aware of, oh, this guy's around. We could catch this mother, you know?

[Dante Nero]

Absolutely, man.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah.

[Dante Nero]

Absolutely. Absolutely. Any. Any of the solicitations that I get. Yeah. I don't even want to respond, really.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

So are you getting. Are you. You must be getting way more.

[Dante Nero]

Way more, really.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

So you could be making a lot of money right now, but you got to pull back because they might be trying to catch you.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah. I feel like everything is entrapment now. And I don't. I'm. I'm. I'm paranoid, like, big time.

[Robert Kelly]

If you. Christine in front of me, I'll give you the 300 I made on P. Diddy's Bad Boys of comedy.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I got a Starbucks card. I'll give you if I can watch.

[Robert Kelly]

I don't have that Diddy money, but, you know, I got some fun stuff.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Jacob's got celery in his bag.

[Robert Kelly]

If you have to refuel, if you have to juice up before we get started.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

So right.

[Jacob]

Right now in the corner with a ninja.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He's just eating it raw like a rabbit. He's going straight in the vein. So. So you. You. I mean, you're in your 50s. Is there. Is there a. You can't. I mean, you're not gonna retire, right?

[Dante Nero]

No, not at all.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Right. Is this all you do?

[Dante Nero]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Dancing.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

Well, now, so to get to the.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Book and an author. Yeah, you're an author too, which is great.

[Robert Kelly]

That you put out, which is so. It's so funny to think that you would have a book about erectile dysfunction problems when you're paid to fuck. It's gotta be a scary. That's like, you know, it's a singer losing their voice.

[Dante Nero]

Absolutely, man. It created like my sense of urgency. Most guys, when you start decline sexually, you kind of just roll with it. But you know, in my line of work, that's. You just. It just cannot happen. So I went on this frantic, frantic, like, I need to solve it. I need to fix it. And I made a lot of mistakes because for me it was a mental problem, right? And so I'm constantly trying to fix a mental problem with a physical solution. I'm popping pills, I'm. I'm getting this gains wave electric shock treatment. You know what I'm saying? They'll open up your blood vessels. Like, I mean, just thousands of dollars on stupid stuff. And then I finally go to a good urologist. He gives you almost like a penis mri. And he's like, bro, there's nothing wrong with you. It's all in your head.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It's all in your head.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah, Pro tip.

[Robert Kelly]

If you would just have a smaller penis, it wouldn't take so much to fill it.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

True. You know what? I gotta back him up on that. Yeah, good point.

[Dante Nero]

Good point. Yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

Pro tip.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Me and Jay gotta fill up one.

[Jacob]

Chemistry class that you went to.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

We got 3.3inches to fill up. Not that hard. I can push my belly button, it fills up.

[Robert Kelly]

But I'm telling you to think. It's break glass.

[Dante Nero]

So. So now I got a choice, right? It's either now going to some sort of therapy and figure out why I'm not getting erections because my mom didn't hug me. Right. Or it's just give a foolproof fix. So I went for the implant.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You went what?

[Dante Nero]

Yeah, I got the straight.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Stop. Why don't we. I mean, why don't we bring this up?

[Robert Kelly]

You didn't right away.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I forgot. I. I heard about. I forgot about it. I can.

[Robert Kelly]

I was gonna say I definitely told you this.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Can I see it? Shut up, Jay. Stop cockblocking me. I'm easing into this.

[Robert Kelly]

He's not going to show you.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You. Why.

[Jacob]

But if you give him over this.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

If you give him.

[Robert Kelly]

If you give him the contents of your bag, he will show it to Christine.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I have a. I don't. I don't know if you're a Chinatown T shirt from Chinatown and a Guns N' Roses T shirt from Marshalls, if you're interested.

[Robert Kelly]

That means it's slightly irregular, but now.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And I have some type of gum. No, but I don't want to see it. But I do. But I don't understand it.

[Robert Kelly]

We all do.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Is it like a Reebok pump? Like a sneaker?

[Dante Nero]

Kind of.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

It really is. Yeah. So.

[Dante Nero]

So I'll break it down for you, right? On either side of. Just show it on either side. On either side of your pee hole, you have, like. It's called a corpus, but it's basically like two straws, right? So that. So from the tip to enter your testicles, these straws run, and that's what gives you your erection. Blood goes into there. So I don't know if you ever paid attention to this. I didn't. But on your testicles you have, like, a little crease.

[Robert Kelly]

That's where God sews you up, like a build a bear.

[Dante Nero]

So they make a small incision in this crease, and it allows them to access the bottom of the straws. So they put implant cylinders from the base to the tip. They drop a pump, which is. The pump is about the size of your testes. So you feel like you got three nuts, right? And they drop that in, and then they make a reservoir with a little bit of saline. So apparently we have some space by our reservoir, by our bladder, where they can place the reservoir. And literally, they sew you up. You heal in two weeks. And my man, when I'm hooking up with a girl, kind of casually reach down to my testicles, give it about 20 VBOC pumps.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't want to ask to see it.

[Robert Kelly]

How do you release it?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Can you do it? This is fucking crazy.

[Robert Kelly]

Would it make you feel better? Now, I did bring Christine in from New Jersey, so I did traffic her here, if you'd like to show her.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That's the man act.

[Dante Nero]

There we go. There you go.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Okay.

[Dante Nero]

Christine.

[Robert Kelly]

Seeing if they have one on Amazon for me.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

So where. Where is the pump? Where is that?

[Dante Nero]

Look, right there. See that thing in the testicles?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Okay, so if you grab your balls right now and you squeeze, it will fill up.

[Dante Nero]

Yes, absolutely.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

And there's no way you can do that right now.

[Dante Nero]

Oh, I can do it right now, bro. I'm like.

[Robert Kelly]

And you still have the, like the. The sexual feeling, like, all feels exactly the same.

[Dante Nero]

So everything feels the same. So all your nerves and. And. And feelings and stuff like that. Let's say it's in the. The outside to maybe. Let's, let's just for number's sake, let's say a centimeter in from the top to end. And this stuff is placed beneath 2cm. So it's apparent like, you know, somebody gets like a. Breaks their leg and they get a steel rod.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Sure, sure.

[Dante Nero]

You know, the rod's in there, but you don't feel it. You don't feel the outside of your leg and say, okay, that's where the rod is. So you. All you're feeling. Everything is exactly the same.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

So the first night they were going to give you $200 just to dance for her, Correct?

[Dante Nero]

Yes.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Okay, I'm gonna give you 100 bucks to show us right now. Jay, he's a professional and I want to treat you as such. Jay, will you pass that to him right now? Yes. Yeah.

[Robert Kelly]

Is this 20?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That's a hundred dollars. This is the best in the biz. I'm not around giving him 20. I'd give Paco 10.

[Robert Kelly]

Can you watch a video? Is there videos. Is there videos of it happening?

[Dante Nero]

Listen, listen, man, I'm, I'm. For the sake of whatever. You guys are plugging my book, I will give you a demonstration on some non gay.

[Jacob]

No.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

No problem. No gay. This is science.

[Robert Kelly]

Me and Bobby will punch each other in the dick if we get hard.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yes. If anybody gets hard, they get punched in the dick.

[Dante Nero]

All right, Just, you know, except for.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Paco, you can't control it.

[Dante Nero]

Celery juice. Just be okay, bro.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

You know, the only reason why I, I this. We're never going to get the chance in our life.

[Robert Kelly]

Are you okay with a girl and a Filipino trans in the room?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Yeah. Wait, how does it. Jacob, shut up, Jacob.

[Robert Kelly]

Jacob, you keep talking, you're going to ruin it.

[Dante Nero]

I'm all about the flow, man.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

He's not going to come, you weirdo.

[Robert Kelly]

You want to be. You want to be the reason that a robot dick can't get hard?

[Dante Nero]

Yeah, it's foolproof.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Are you going to blur this out, Paco?

[Dante Nero]

Yeah, this is my, my white boy moment.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Okay. Yeah, white boy.

[Robert Kelly]

You are totally gonna be Five Sigma cap after this white boy moment.

[Dante Nero]

All right, we're in the game.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Okay, here we go.

[Robert Kelly]

Oh, it's already hard. It's already hard.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I just want you to. Christine. Christine just literally ran around you to see it.

[Robert Kelly]

Christine, look, it's already hard. I guess.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Got.

[Dante Nero]

I got the.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Okay, you got.

[Dante Nero]

Okay, now you're gonna see it coming up.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

Oh, my Lord. Okay, so you pump it this is, I mean, science. This is science.

[Dante Nero]

Yeah, it take. It takes about a good 20 pumps.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

So you have to.

[Dante Nero]

And you can't. Like I said, there's no way a woman be able to tell.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

So there's no. There's no nuts in there, right?

[Dante Nero]

Yeah, no, there's nuts in there, but it seems like I have three nuts.

[Robert Kelly]

You think they took his nuts out?

[Big Jay Oakerson]

My question is, why wouldn't that hurt? You have to. You have to be careful not to squeeze your nuts. Right?

[Dante Nero]

Well, I know the difference between my nuts and pumps.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

I don't. I don't.

[Dante Nero]

All right, so there we go. I'm. I'm ready to roll.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

That's crazy. The greatest. Tesla, space, Mars, everything. That is the greatest. Congratulations. Yeah, this is for you. That's a tip. And then I want to say I paid you to have sex with me.

[Dante Nero]

Listen, this will stay hard. I could fuck while on fire.

[Big Jay Oakerson]

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[Dante Nero]

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[Big Jay Oakerson]

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[Dante Nero]

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[Big Jay Oakerson]

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[Dante Nero]

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