Book Club: Gabriel Garcia Marquez's "One Hundred Years of Solitude"

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Book Review – Book Club: Gabriel Garcia Marquez's "One Hundred Years of Solitude"

Introduction

In this episode of The Book Review Podcast hosted by Gilbert Cruz and MJ Franklin, the New York Times Book Review team delves into Gabriel Garcia Marquez's seminal novel, One Hundred Years of Solitude. Released on November 22, 2024, the episode serves as a comprehensive exploration of the novel's themes, characters, and enduring impact on literature, especially within the realm of magical realism. Joining MJ Franklin in the discussion are Greg Coles, a senior editor, and Miguel Salazar, a fact checker and Garcia Marquez expert.

Synopsis of "One Hundred Years of Solitude"

MJ Franklin opens the conversation with a brief synopsis of the novel:

"100 Years of Solitude is the story of the creation and eventual destruction of a small rural village named Macondo in Colombia, on the coastline of Colombia, as seen through successive generations of its founding family, the Buendias." [03:09]

The novel chronicles the rise and fall of Macondo, intertwining the fortunes of the Buendia family with the broader historical and political landscape of Colombia, all through the lens of magical realism.

Initial Impressions from Hosts

The discussion begins with the hosts sharing their initial thoughts on the novel. MJ Franklin expresses a deep appreciation for the book:

"It is indeed one of the great works of literature. I loved it even as I resisted aspects of it." [06:17]

Greg Coles shares his experience as a first-time reader, highlighting the intimidation factor of approaching such a renowned work. Miguel Salazar reflects on his second reading, noting a shift from focusing on plot details to appreciating the rhythm and prose.

Themes Discussed

1. Magical Realism

   A significant portion of the conversation centers on the novel's use of magical realism. MJ Franklin acknowledges her initial resistance to the genre:

   "I thought sometimes it can feel a little arbitrary or a little tweet... but it's also very fun." [06:55]

   Miguel Salazar elaborates on how magical realism serves as a narrative device to blend the extraordinary with the mundane, enhancing the novel's allegorical depth:

   "It seems like he would take stories that he felt were being told to him in just this really plain monotone... And he tried to channel that in this book." [09:54]

2. Imperialism

   Miguel Salazar frames the novel as a parable for imperialism, drawing parallels between the fictional Macondo and real historical contexts:

   "Throughout these 100 years of the novel... the arrival of not just the Buendia family, which are essentially the colonizers of the land, but also American interests through the banana company." [04:53]

   He further connects this to Garcia Marquez’s own reflections on Latin American history and external influences.

3. Solitude

   The concept of solitude is explored as a central theme, reflecting both a curse and a human condition:

   "Solitude seems to be a big theme of the novel. But Garcia Marquez doesn't seem to actually be saying anything about solitude, except maybe that it's part of the human condition." [15:38]

   The hosts discuss how solitude permeates the lives of the Buendia family, shaping their destinies and interactions.

4. Family Dynamics and Repeating Names

   A notable literary device in the novel is the repetition of names across generations, which the hosts analyze extensively:

   "Every Jose Arcadio is this kind of a person, and every Aureliano is this kind of a person." [25:29]

   This repetition serves to emphasize the cyclical nature of history and the inescapable patterns within the family.

Character Analysis

1. Ursula Buendia

   Ursula emerges as a pivotal character, embodying strength and resilience. She is portrayed as the matriarch who holds the family together despite numerous adversities:

   "She just knows her family so well... She holds everything together." [30:19]

   Her character is celebrated for her intelligence, longevity, and pivotal role in maintaining the family's cohesion.

2. Pilar Ternera and Petra Cotes

   The discussion highlights other strong female characters who significantly influence the Buendia family:

   "Pilar Ternera... and Petra Coates... very strong women in this book that are outside of the family structure but appear in the family because they end up birthing a lot of the children who are part of the Buendia family." [33:05]

   These characters contribute to the family's dynamics and the novel's exploration of gender roles.

Translator and Translation Quality

The quality of Gregory Rabassa's translation is lauded for its idiomatic and seamless rendition of the original Spanish text:

"Rabassa's translation appeared in 1970. One of the New York Times Book Review's best books of 1980." [38:11]

Miguel Salazar commends the translation for preserving Garcia Marquez's rhythm and wordsmithery:

"The rhythm of the book... is just really well done. And Rabassa does he translated..." [40:06]

Reader Engagement and Comments

The hosts read and reflect on listener comments, showcasing diverse perspectives:

• Lisa Martin from NYC appreciates the novel's descriptive beauty and its diversion from current events:

  "Beautiful words and long descriptive sections. It is a challenging but welcoming diversion from current events." [Reader Comment 1]

• Richard from Oro Valley, Arizona likens the novel to a comprehensive understanding of humanity:

  "Perhaps no other novel illuminates the shared universality of human experience with equal wisdom and humor." [Reader Comment 2]

• HDM from Massachusetts offers a mixed review, suggesting that while Garcia Marquez is talented, certain elements may overshadow deeper themes:

  "The underlying subtext about loss and ultimate solitude not complex enough to carry the brunt of his storytelling genius." [Reader Comment 3]

Additionally, Barbara from Oakdale and Kimothy from Boston share personal connections to Garcia Marquez's works, enriching the discussion with their intimate reading experiences.

Reflections and Conclusions

MJ Franklin and Miguel Salazar ponder the overarching messages of the novel, contemplating its themes of history, memory, and the human condition. They recognize the difficulty in encapsulating the novel's essence, likening it to the multifaceted narratives of the Bible:

"It's hard to say what it's about in the same way it's hard to say what the Bible is about, except it's about storytelling." [15:38]

Miguel emphasizes the novel as a lament against the tumultuous history of Latin America, particularly Colombian conflicts influenced by external powers:

"He's speaking against the civil wars... let us have our Dark Ages in peace." [16:40]

Upcoming Book Club Announcement

As promised, the hosts unveil the December book club selection:

"In December, we'll be discussing Small Things Like These by Claire Keegan." [42:29]

They invite listeners to join the upcoming discussion scheduled for December 20th, highlighting its relevance to the holiday season.

Conclusion

The episode concludes with heartfelt thanks to the contributors and listeners, encouraging ongoing conversations within the virtual book club hub:

"Please keep the conversation going. You can find our book club hub at nytimes.com/gabrielgarciamarquezbookclub." [41:49]

The hosts express their enthusiasm for future readings and adaptations, particularly referencing the upcoming Netflix screen adaptation of One Hundred Years of Solitude.

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Gabriel Garcia Marquez's inspiration from Faulkner:

  "He actually had a road trip through the American south before he moved to Mexico City to write this." [04:53]

• Description of the magical rain of yellow flowers:

  "There was a light rain of tiny yellow flowers falling... the streets were carpeted with a compact cushioning." [22:23]

• Amaranta's vow to prevent Rebecca's marriage:

  "Don't get your hopes up... I'll find some way of stopping you from getting married, even if I have to kill you." [35:05]

Final Thoughts

One Hundred Years of Solitude remains a cornerstone of literary study, its rich tapestry of magical realism and intricate family sagas offering endless avenues for exploration and discussion. This podcast episode by The Book Review not only dissects the novel's multifaceted layers but also fosters a community of readers engaging deeply with its timeless narrative.

Transcript

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[Gilbert Cruz]

Hello, I'm Gilbert Cruz, editor of the New.

[MJ Franklin]

York Times Book Review, and this is.

[Gilbert Cruz]

The Book Review Podcast on this week's.

[MJ Franklin]

Episode is our monthly book club discussion hosted by MJ Franklin, and this time.

[Gilbert Cruz]

Around, he and a group of editors.

[MJ Franklin]

Are talking about 100 Years of Solitude.

[Gilbert Cruz]

By Gabriel Garcia Marquez. Let's turn to that now. Hello and welcome to another book club episode of the Book Review Podcast. I'm MJ Franklin. I'm an editor here at the New York Times Book Review, and for this month's Book Review Book Club, we're talking about 100 Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez. We chose 100 Years of Solitude for a few reasons. First, first, for our jobs. We spend so much time exploring what's new in fiction, what's happening in contemporary literature, and one thing personally, that helps me stay sane and grounded is stopping, pausing and revisiting a classic. Second, the timing seems perfect because in December, Netflix is releasing a screen adaptation of One Hundred Years of Solitude. I'm someone who likes to revisit the original work before diving into an adaptation, so now seemed like the perfect time to dive back into this iconic novel. And joining me in that deep dive are two of my incredible colleagues. First, we have Greg Coles, a senior editor here at the Book Review. Welcome back, Greg.

[MJ Franklin]

Thanks, M.J. glad to be here.

[Gilbert Cruz]

Also with us is Miguel Salazar, a fact checker at the Book Review. And if you're a dedicated reader of the Book Review, you'll know that Miguel is a Garcia Marquez expert. In April 2023, Miguel wrote our essential Guide to Garcia Marquez, breaking down which of Garcia Marquez's books you should read based on what type of mood you're in. There is context, there's analysis there. It's a great and helpful pie. So go check that out. And then, Miguel, you were on the podcast last to talk about that piece. That was about a year ago. So after a long while. Welcome back.

[Miguel Salazar]

Hi mj.

[Gilbert Cruz]

As always, I have some programming notes. At the end of the episode, we'll reveal our December book Club book. So stay tuned until the end to find out what that selection is. And then second, as always, there will be spoilers in this conversation. If you wanna avoid spoilers, pause this episode, go read the book, and then come back to us. Or if you don't care about spoilers, let's just dive in. Before we get started in diving in, I think we should set the table, as it were. Can someone give us a brief synopsis of what this book is about? What is 100 Years of Solitude?

[MJ Franklin]

Oh, I can.

[Gilbert Cruz]

Thank you.

[MJ Franklin]

Big picture. 100 Years of Solitude is the story of the creation and eventual destruction of a small rural village named Macondo in Colombia, on the coastline of Colombia, as seen through successive generations of its founding family, the Buendias.

[Gilbert Cruz]

I love it because that title, 100 Years of Solitude, is a purely descriptive title. 100 years, one solitude of one town, people experiencing solitude in this town, et cetera.

[MJ Franklin]

But he gives it all to you right there.

[Gilbert Cruz]

Miguel, you pointed out in your Essentials guide that this is a parable for imperialism. Can you tell us more about that framing?

[Miguel Salazar]

Yeah, Like Greg said, this story is about the town of Macondo, which it doesn't really exist. There is no town called Macondo in Colombia. Garcia Marquez was inspired a lot by Faulkner. He actually had a road trip through the American south before he moved to Mexico City to write this. And I think that actually left a big impression on the way he understood that Faulkner took composite parts of the south and made this town out of it. And that's what Garcia Marquez does with this book. He said, you know, it's based on the town where he grew up, called Aracataca, which was where he was raised by his grandparents. But at different points, it becomes the city of Barranquilla, which is a larger Colombian coastal city. And throughout these 100 years of the novel, like Greg mentioned, yeah, we see the arrival of not just the Buendia family, which are essentially the colonizers of the land, but. But also American interests through the banana company. And what follows all of this throughout the book is a lot of death, violence, destruction.

[Gilbert Cruz]

Just a fun teaser for everyone.

[MJ Franklin]

It's a lot of sex, too.

[Miguel Salazar]

A lot of sex.

[Gilbert Cruz]

And also some big revelations of some what seem like ordinary things. Ice. That's how the book opens. Many years later, as he faced the firing squad. Colonel Aureliano Buendia was to remember that distant afternoon when his father took him to discover ice, that iconic opening. But then also we get. There's a train. Like, that's a huge thing. Someone gets a telescope. So you really are seeing this kind of Town, work through. As Greg said, modernity, the train really.

[MJ Franklin]

Feels like the moment where it's all gonna come crashing in.

[Gilbert Cruz]

To start, my question is to the table. What did you think of it? Like it, Hate it, Feel complicated about it? Tell me your broad thoughts. Big picture about 100 years of solitude.

[Miguel Salazar]

I'm curious to know. Greg, I think you mentioned this is your first time reading it, so I'm curious.

[Gilbert Cruz]

It is.

[MJ Franklin]

So this is a book that I grew up hearing about constantly. I knew it was one of the great works of world literature, felt a little intimidated to read it, and it was never on a syllabus. And as with everyone, there are holes in my reading life, and this was one of them. And I might never have gotten around to it if you had not asked me to do this. And so I seized.

[Gilbert Cruz]

Love a book club. Love a book club.

[MJ Franklin]

Seized the opportunity. I'm really glad that I did. It is indeed one of the great works of literature. I loved it even as I resisted aspects of it.

[Gilbert Cruz]

Tell us more. What did you resist?

[MJ Franklin]

We haven't talked at all about the magic realism aspect of this. And it's very famously the book that sort of founded a new wave of magic realism. Obviously met Kafka, wrote magic realism. The Bible is filled with magic realism. It's not a new thing. But this book established a new wave of it and a very specifically Latin American wave of it.

[Gilbert Cruz]

And are you not a magical realist?

[MJ Franklin]

I can roll with magic realism. I thought sometimes it can feel a little arbitrary or a little tweet. When anything can happen, you think, why is this happening? And it maybe leans a little heavy on symbolism sometimes, but it's also very fun. There's flying carpets and there's buried treasure. It's a very exuberant novel. There's a virgin ascension into heaven. There's murder and pedophilia and bestiality and so much incest.

[Gilbert Cruz]

Again, a fun little teaser. What's in this? How are they gonna make this into a show? Graphic content. Warnings abound.

[MJ Franklin]

What? I resisted more. And I'm actually a little bit surprised if this is the first time it's ever been made into a show. It seems perfectly suited for a TV show because it's a very episodic novel. And that's what I resisted as a narrative. It's just there's one thing and then the next thing and then the next thing, which lends itself well to TV because that's episodes. But in a novel, it can get a little bit hard. It does end up being about just the life of the town and the life of the family. But just as you're getting invested in a character, that character, I won't say dies. They live well into their hundreds.

[Gilbert Cruz]

Exit left, pursued by ice or bear or army or train or lover or. What about you, Miguel? What did you think of this book?

[Miguel Salazar]

This was my second read, and I think when I read it the first time, it was almost 10 years ago, I still feel like I was a relatively young reader coming to this book with a similar kind of, like, background to you, Greg. It was like this book that had been talked up for so long. I'm Colombian, so Garcia Marquez is like our one greatest writer that everyone references. And so I felt I just had a civic responsibility to read this. And I was really preoccupied with just keeping track of all the names and the plot. And I felt like just. I was worried about keeping tabs on everyone this time around. I read it in a few days and let the narrative kind of wash over me. I felt like I was more attuned to the rhythm of the prose and the way the book is constructed. It is episodic. I'll agree with that, Greg. I also think it's a bit rhapsodic. It's a bit like song, like the way in which, within the chapters, characters will appear, disappear, come back. Garcia Marquez has said he was inspired by the way his grandparents would just tell him stories when he was a kid. And it really captured his imagination. And this ties into the magic realism of it because it seems like he would take stories that he felt were being told to him in just this really plain monotone, perhaps, like, matter of fact delivery. And he tried to channel that in this book. And I feel like that really comes across as you're reading it, because as we're reading about Remedios floating off into heaven, that's just like one part of the chapter and the narrative just continues on.

[Gilbert Cruz]

That explanation of mimicking the way his family used to tell him stories makes so much sense to me because, like, when you're listening to someone speaking or narrating a story, you're with them, and then you flag a little bit and you're back in and you're with them and you're like, wait a second, where did this character come from? And you're. You really just follow, I think, more an oral tradition, like the sweep of a story than we're used to when we're reading a novel this time around.

[Miguel Salazar]

I tried to read it that way, I think before I would pick it up, put it back down, read it on the subway, finish my reading session mid chapter, sometimes in the middle of a page. This time I tried to just sit down, get through a chapter before I even did anything. I will say one other thing I noticed that really struck me this time around was just given the reputation the book has and I think the flowery nature or the flowery image that it evokes, the Macondo image and what magical realism evokes, I think in pop culture. The book is really dark and it's really even. Up until the very end. I was struck because I had forgotten a lot of. Especially the second half of the book, besides the Banana Massacre. Just the series of deaths and horrors that befall the Buendias and Macondo. Especially the final scene of Ursula Amaranta, Ursula, who's one of the final descendants, who gives birth to the child that brings upon this sort of apocalyptic. Yeah, the pigtailed child.

[Gilbert Cruz]

But at the same time, this is one of the reasons. So my general thoughts are that I really loved this book quite a lot. That duality that you mentioned, it's like, very dark and yet very flowery. And, Greg, you said exuberant. I just was so fascinated by it. I found this book to be very charming, even as its indictments were razor sharp. I found it to be playful and dark. The sweep with the family and the repetition of the name. I was so charmed by it. That's the word that keeps coming to mind. And so that example of the child that's born with the pigtail that brings calamity, that scene is also very funny because Ursula, the matriarch of this family, has been trying to avoid exactly this. And she's always wrong. She's like, we can't have children. They're gonna have a pigtail. It's gonna be bad. And she's always wrong. And so when you finally get that, it's this really fun and funny callback. And then it brings about something so disastrous.

[Miguel Salazar]

Yeah, I agree. And I think one thing that I feel like makes the book so funny sometimes is the dialogue. Even though I feel like it's not necessarily sparse, but there's not so much of it. And it's never like a back and forth tic tac kind of exchange. It's always just a long. This goes back to my observation of the rhythm. There's always like a long description and then followed by one line, one very dry, humorous line that even though. Even if there's been a death or something, it's usually very perceptive. And funny and cutting and then we move on. And that really helped. Yeah, cut through a lot of the darkness for me. I think I was a little too I was paying a lot of attention to the imagery and I got a bit lost in it. And just the image of these ants carrying a little baby away that I think I hadn't remembered that.

[MJ Franklin]

And it leads up to that so beautifully because in the chapter before that amaranta, Ursula has been going after those ants all the time. It's been her whole project coming into that house. It's kind of she takes over the cleaning of it and she's really intent on getting rid of the ants. And so then it's this beautiful foreshadowing of that.

[Gilbert Cruz]

Everything is so beautifully seated and foreshadowed. And I want to dive more into that. But first I want to read some reader comments, because this month we had an expanded reader hub inviting readers all over the world to talk talk about this book with us online. There's a virtual book club hub. You can find [e-mail] gabrielgarciamarquezbookclub. It's a long URL, but you can find really fun, thoughtful, robust conversations with fellow readers there and a few reader thoughts of the book. Lisa Martin from NYC writes, I tried to read this book many years ago and put it down, finding it too long winded. I find that I now have more patience with it and am enjoying the beautiful words and long descriptive sections. It is a challenging but welcoming diversion from current events. Richard from the Oro Valley in Arizona writes, if a space alien were to visit Earth and ask how to best understand humanity in all its wonder, we could do no better than suggest a closed reading of 100 Years of Solitude. For there's perhaps no other novel which illuminates the shared universality of human experience with equal wisdom and humor. And Last one. I know I'm reading a bunch, but last one. This one I think is really it's a mix, but I think it's really thought provoking and fruitful. HDM from Massachusetts notes, I tremendously enjoyed reading the novel, but having finished it, I am surprised by the lack of any deep moral impact that Tolstoy, Flaubert, Kafka, Dostoevsky, and he lists a bunch of other authors, not to mention Shakespeare had on me. I'm not sure what to attribute it to, a case where overwhelming literary firing power crowds out deeper levels of perception? Or is the underlying subtext about loss and ultimate solitude not complex enough to carry the brunt of his storytelling Genius. So that's a bit of a mixed one. He's saying that he thinks Gabriel Garcia Marquez is an immensely talented writer, but there's something about it. Maybe it's the magical realism, maybe it's the sweep. There's something about this book that is getting in the way of his appreciation of some of the themes.

[MJ Franklin]

It's really interesting because one thing that I found myself asking as, especially as I was getting closer and closer to the end of the novel, was where is all this leading in terms of a takeaway? What is the big theme? What is the big kind of philosophical import? And except for this notion of solitude, it's there in the title. You're primed to look for it almost every other page. Somebody is experiencing solitude. And sometimes it's a curse, and sometimes it's a blessing. Sometimes they seek it out. So solitude seems to be a big theme of the novel. But Garcia Marquez doesn't seem to actually be saying anything about solitude, except maybe that it's part of the human condition. And so I agree with HMD a little bit that I'm not sure. Miguel, you said that you think the book is about imperialism. I'm not sure I took that away from me either. It's hard to say what it's about in the same way it's hard to say what the Bible is about, except it's about storytelling. It's about the generations of this family. But I'd have a hard time encapsulating what the takeaway is.

[Miguel Salazar]

I see it as a lament, in a way. Garcia Marquez has this speech he gives decades after this book was published, after he's won the Nobel Prize, where he is talking about literature in Latin America, and he writes and he's saying he's speaking against also a lot of the civil wars that the late 20th century has seen in Latin America and Colombia and Central America. There was a lot of bloodshed that is honestly very similar to the events that occur in 100 years of solitude. And he laments the involvement of European and Western US interests, whether it be through banana companies or mining companies. And he's basically, at one point, he says, let us have our Dark Ages in peace. And I think that feels like, to me, it unlocked a bit of how he sees the history of Colombia and Macondo. Towards the end of the book, I don't know if you noticed, there's a character named Gabriel. He's one of the jokesters who hangs out at the bookstore, at the Catalonians bookstore. And Aureliano has this conversation with him about this banana massacre that everyone seems to have forgotten and it seems to have been wiped out of history. And they both have this bond where they remember this one moment that no one else does. And I feel like that, to me, is a bit of the heart of the book. It seems like it's like this alternate history of Colombia that isn't necessarily put front and center in the history books. And I've seen this and I've heard this from readers, from Colombian readers. I wasn't. I'm not. I know my history, but I don't. I'm not intimate with the history of Colombia, especially back into the 19th and early 20th century. But it seems like he's commenting on this while using this like technique of magical realism to to tell the story as if it were told by someone who's out on their porch in Macondo commenting on how they've seen the world develop.

[MJ Franklin]

It's also worth bearing in mind that Gabriel Garcia Marquez worked as a journalist even while he was writing novels. And so I had that in mind for the Banana Massacre and for a lot of the tone of it where it's just he's reporting these extraordinary things in a very matter of fact, almost journalistic tone. And I think some of that he says that's how his grandmother told these stories where magic things happened. And she just said it like she was also reporting on the weather. But I think that some of his journalism background also comes into that.

[Gilbert Cruz]

That's such a smart point and I think we should dive in more. But first we should take a quick.

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[Miguel Salazar]

I wanted to talk a little bit more about the Magical Realism because I feel like when I started the book again, this time I felt a of fatigue about it. But as the book progressed, I think I realized that there is reasoning behind a lot of the magical realism. And some of it I think Garcia Marquez has said is, or his mom has even said that in interviews, that his books are written in code. And she's the one with the key. And it's because she remembers the stories.

[MJ Franklin]

That were told in parchments.

[Miguel Salazar]

Yeah, it's like milk.

[MJ Franklin]

Yeah, this is parchments.

[Miguel Salazar]

Yeah. Because there's stories from his infancy that she picked up from her parents, who were his grandparents, who he lived with early on in life. And she remembers, she can say, oh, this is what this happened to this family.

[Gilbert Cruz]

The other thing that I think the Magical realism does, though, several things. One is that I think it helps stop this book from becoming pedantic. Right. This is a journalist writing about imperialism, Civil War, cultural memory, modernity. It could feel so heavy handed. In a way, he needs something to shake up like just the political and social and cultural critique and indictment here. And he adds all of this magical realism, which both takes it away from feeling like a political tract, but is also captivating. Miguel, I think you mentioned images earlier and that's what I get from the Magical Realism here. These beautiful images that are stuck in my head.

[MJ Franklin]

What's your favorite?

[Gilbert Cruz]

So I have these deckled edges on my pages and I was trying to find quotes and I couldn't find anything. Cause they're hard to find. But one that I did find that stood out, it's on page 140 of my copy. And it's just a short time later when the carpenter was taking measurements for the coffin through the window, they saw a light rain of tiny yellow flowers falling. They fell on the town all through the a silent storm. And they covered the roofs and blocked the doors and smothered the animals who slept outdoors. So many flowers fell from the sky that in the morning the streets were carpeted with a compact cushioning. And they had to clear them away with shovels and rakes so that the funeral procession could begin.

[MJ Franklin]

For me, one of my favorite images from the Magical Realism is the death of a different Jose Arcadio. Later, when his trail of blood, he's shot. We never find out who did it. And his trail of blood leads from where he was shot to his house. It turns corners, it climbs over furniture and dodges things and ends up in the room.

[Miguel Salazar]

I think it's Ursula's kitchen, and she.

[MJ Franklin]

Sees it and screams because she knows what happened.

[Miguel Salazar]

I remember those two from my first reading. They were super memorable. I'm always going to remember the yellow butterflies that follow Mauricio Babylonia everywhere. That's one of the images that's, like, most associated with this book. But also it's. I was just recently in not Colombia, but Guatemala, visiting my girlfriend's family, and we went out for a hike, and there were just yellow butterflies everywhere. And it's one of those moments where I can see, even though I'm in a different country in Central America, I can see that at some point, Garcia Marquez probably saw all of these butterflies and took that memory from infancy or from a different part of his life and stuck it in the book. And it just felt very. It felt like it tied the story of Macondo together. Because I'm, like, in Guatemala, but it feels like I'm, like, in Macondo, so to speak. But also just like a really beautiful image of a man being followed just by. Just swarmed by yellow butterflies.

[Gilbert Cruz]

It adds a pleasure complex to the book for me that, given how sweeping it is, given how episodic it is, I also had. So I've read this twice. The first time I read it was in one big gulp, and I loved it. And I could remember 0% of it also about 10 years ago, actually. And then this time I read it. I was interrupted frequently because of just work reading and project reading. It's like book award season, so you're dipping in and out, trying to gobble up as much as you can. And so I kept stopping and starting again. And that was such a challenging reading experience. Cause I was like, wait, which Jose Arcadio are we talking about? Which earlyano? What generation are we in? But even as I was trying to get my footing again, I would stumble on this magic, this supernatural thing that hooked me, that made me enjoy, even as I was trying to find my place again.

[MJ Franklin]

Can we talk about the repeating names?

[Gilbert Cruz]

Mm.

[MJ Franklin]

I wonder what you think of them. I started out resisting them a little and just thinking, really that they're hard to keep apart. Then it started to feel comic to me, and then it just completely won me over by the end, where I thought, what he's doing here is. At one point, I think Ursula is the one who makes it very explicit. Every Jose Arcadio is this kind of a person, and every Aureliano is this kind of a person.

[Gilbert Cruz]

But then the twins are born later and you're not sure who's.

[MJ Franklin]

And they switch around and then they're switched. Even in death, they're buried in the wrong graves.

[Miguel Salazar]

Yeah. She's convinced they were switched because they're just so unlike their names.

[MJ Franklin]

Right. So maybe they're buried in the right graves.

[Miguel Salazar]

Yeah. I think at the end that was the final little twist. They were buried in the right grave.

[Gilbert Cruz]

But that's a good question. Yeah. What did you make of the names? And can I read a reader comment that gets to that point?

[MJ Franklin]

Yeah, sure.

[Gilbert Cruz]

Christian from Arizona writes, I'm in awe and angry at Marques's choice of with the same names. It was one of the main causes for my confusion. Successors were not only named for their predecessors, but in perfect irony, they repeated the same mistakes that they made. Watching the repetitive actions and behavior play out time and time again was exhausting. I think, similar to Greg, I was both, like, intrigued and had fun with it. And then I was confused by it, and then I was wowed by it once I realized there's a repetition and a rhythm and a structure. And these names aren't just names, but they're signals and they're labels and their archetypes and their fate. And then I was confused again. And in the end I came on the side of appreciating it just because I think it does kind of jostle the reader out of their comfort zone. I think it shows a demand for to meet Gabriel Garcia Marquez where he is and where Macondo is and where the story is. It's not a passive reading experience, and I think it makes you lean in. And once you lean in and spend time and savor this book, you enjoy it all the more.

[Miguel Salazar]

I'll just add to that that in my family there's five different Jaime's, Jamies, and there's like different combinations of. It's either in the middle name or the first name. And everyone, like, I have uncles with that name, so it feels in some ways familiar to me. But also, yeah, it also, I think, forced me to think about the characters beyond just identifying them, beyond just their name and really thinking about in the context of the family, who is this person?

[MJ Franklin]

We all have different editions of the book in front of us here, which is fun. And yours might have a family tree at the beginning or might not. Mine does. And you start out looking at it like any family tree of any historical big kind of family epic novel, except that all the names are the same. And the more you read into the book and get the stories behind the more deranged that family tree is the 17 Aurelianos. And this child conceived by this out of wedlock. Once you can interpret that family tree, you just appreciate what a marvel it is.

[Gilbert Cruz]

I was gonna say point that family tree out as well, because it is almost comically unhelpful. I started looking at it all the time because I was like, oh, this is like helpful grounding. And then I was like, wait a second. Okay, so this person's name has switched with this person, and then they were born out of wetlock, but they were pretending to be birthed by this person. And this person came over and took over and just a direct family tre.

[Miguel Salazar]

And it's like this person was married to this other person, but actually the child is from this Ilar Turnera.

[Gilbert Cruz]

And then both brothers dated this person. I guess now that we mentioned. You mentioned names that Reader question. Can we just pivot to some reader questions? Iqbal from San Francisco writes, what struck me was how strong the female characters, especially the matriarch, are in terms of holding the family together despite the indiscretions and recklessness of the males in the family. These are feminists for the ages, I guess. I'm wondering for the table, what did you make of the women specifically in this book who stood out to you? Did this feel like a feminist book?

[MJ Franklin]

Absolutely. The matriarch, Ursula, stands out to me. There was a time, because the book opens with Colonel Aureliano Buendia, that I took him as the linchpin that everything circled around. He's the one who goes off to war. We do follow him for quite a while as the main character. But I think, in fact, Ursula, who lives well beyond him, is she 120?

[Gilbert Cruz]

140. How old is she in the end?

[Miguel Salazar]

I don't even know if she knows.

[MJ Franklin]

There are a couple of more than a couple of fake outs in the book, but there's a fake out in that opening sentence with Colonel Aureliano Buendia facing the firing squad. We assume the book is opening with a death foretold there, but it's not. He doesn't die in that firing squad. And then there's another fake out later where Gabriel Garcia tells us that he lives into old age, but in fact that the colonel lives into old age. He dies in his 50s, and Ursula really outlives him by significantly. And I think that Ursula is probably the character holding everything together, and she's this wonderful character who goes blind, but nobody realizes it because she fakes it so well.

[Gilbert Cruz]

Because she just knows her family so well. She. I think he writes that she realizes that every person walked the same path and said the same things at the same time every single day.

[MJ Franklin]

And when there's a variation, she can decipher what that means. She finds somebody's lost ring, and she.

[Miguel Salazar]

Teaches one of the young buendias. By the time she's blind and really old, she teaches him to. And to identify colors. And that's how she learns what colors everything is. I just feel like she's so crafty and smart.

[MJ Franklin]

And then she can tell by the texture.

[Miguel Salazar]

By the texture, exactly.

[MJ Franklin]

He tells her what color it is, and after that, she can identify them.

[Miguel Salazar]

And she is what holds everything together because she almost outlives everyone. And then after she dies, I feel like it's only a matter of maybe a decade or a decade and a half until everything just the apocalypse comes after the prophecy and even before that.

[Gilbert Cruz]

Storm wipes everyone out. Like, they literally cannot keep up the house in the same way. Like, the dirt that she kept out couldn't stop coming in because she, even though she's blind and frail, was just this force.

[Miguel Salazar]

Right. I love Ursula. I think she is getting a lot more, I think, love and attention upon, like, this, like, second wave of reading of Hundreds of Hell to. There are two other characters that I think are super pivotal also, because Ursula is really focused on the domestic affairs of the house. She actually does everything. But the one thing that it seems like she doesn't do is just socialize or teach her children how to interact with the world. And it seems like the men, Jose Arcadio and Aureliano, they end up going out into the world, and they actually learn to be men through these women. Pilar Ternera, who's working at the brothel and lives, I think, almost as long, if not longer, than Ursula. I think she does.

[MJ Franklin]

Doesn't she end up running the brothel of the zoo? Brothel, yeah.

[Miguel Salazar]

And the other one, Petra Coates, I think is her name, who ends up giving essentially charity to the family after Sula dies and hiding it. And she's hiding it because. And. But these are the two women who I think really teach a lot of the men in the book just how the world works almost. It seems like they're a little bit lost until they meet them both, like in a. It. Like in a sexual context, but also just in terms of the way that Pilara is using the cards, which I assume are like tarot cards, to predict the future and tell them and give them confidence. Yeah, I Think those characters are a little underappreciated and not so talked about, but they're also very strong women in this book that are outside of the family structure but appear in the family because they end up birthing a lot of the children who are part of the Buendia family.

[Gilbert Cruz]

Well, you just said made me realize that there's a lot of the men in their lives are fated by the names they're given, which Ursula has a huge hand in throughout the book and the cards. So the idea that we think of these men going to war and shaping Macondo, but really it's women in these kind of, like, slant ways through the names, through the cards, through not necessarily the family structure, but who are shaping.

[MJ Franklin]

This family, this anchor, often through romantic relationships too. I think I was interested when you said, oh, but there are two other women. And I was like, who is he gonna say? Because you might equally have said Rebecca? Or is it Amaranth who leads them on and then rejects them out of. Ultimately, a sense of fe. Is what Ursula concludes, that she's a coward in matters of love.

[Gilbert Cruz]

Two things I wanted to say is the showdown between Rebecca and Amaranta over Pietro Cresci.

[MJ Franklin]

Oh, the piano maker. Yeah.

[Gilbert Cruz]

One of the great duels in literature. It is so incredible. And I have a quote written down, which is at one point, I think Rebecca is about to go on a trip and think she's about to get married. And Amaranta says she whispers in her ear, actually giving her a goodbye kiss.

[MJ Franklin]

Yes. She embraced and whispers, don't get your hopes up.

[Gilbert Cruz]

Even if they send me to the ends of the earth, I'll find some way of stopping you from getting married, even if I have to kill you. I got chills. Chills so good.

[MJ Franklin]

And that delayed marriage that just stretches out so long, and every time it looks like it's finally gonna happen and isn't, it just becomes a running joke. That is hilarious.

[Miguel Salazar]

It is. Yeah. It's both tragic and hilarious and.

[Gilbert Cruz]

And I guess, spoiler alert, in the end, neither of them marry him.

[Miguel Salazar]

Yeah, there was that one point. The letter that he receives about his dying mother. No one can tell who wrote the letter, but we all know it's Amaranth.

[Gilbert Cruz]

I feel like now we're diving into the weeds of some of our favorite characters and the intricacies of their dynamics. So I just wanted to pan out a little bit and ask, is there anything else you want to talk about? Anything? You're like, wait, one more thing. I don't want to end this conversation without Talking about.

[Miguel Salazar]

There's a lot of things I'm thinking about, but something I'm really thinking about now in the context of just the idea of the sort of, like, literary movement this book was a part of and helped spawn. Now there's a large contingent of Latin American writers who have been translated into English, like Garcia Marquez, who are not writing magical realism, but horror. And I thought. And I've seen writings both from people, I think, who are part of that movement and people just like readers, who have disavowed magical rhythm or have said that the magical rhythm of Garcia Marquez doesn't really apply anymore to Latin America, that it's more that the reality that they're processing through this other genre, horror, is better suited through just the imagery of horror. But like I said before, I was taken aback by the final few pages of the book because they felt like scenes that I could have pictured in the Mariana Enriquez book. And even though I am in this world of Macondo, it felt like just by tweaking the writing style, but keeping this plot, maybe, or keeping. Or at least keeping that part of the book, it felt like there's. It's. I felt like it was a fitting end to the book. And also it felt like a sort of passing the baton almost moment to me now knowing what I know. And now having read a lot of.

[MJ Franklin]

This current generation hasn't disavowed him as.

[Miguel Salazar]

Much as they think he has. Exactly. I think there is like a lineage there that even if people are trying to bristle against or distinguish they're writing from, he's still woven himself into the fabric of the literary tradition in the sense that it's really difficult to get away from. That's what I took away from the ending, especially. But I love this book. I love how it keeps surprising me in different ways, in small ways.

[Gilbert Cruz]

What about you, Greg? Closing words.

[MJ Franklin]

So some things that we didn't touch on that. I don't want to go unsaid. I don't read Spanish or speak Spanish. I want to comment on Gregory Rabasa's translation, which I think is just extraordinary. It felt very idiomatic. It felt very easy to read. And I wanted to talk about that. This book came out in 1967. Rabasa's translation appeared in 1970. One of the New York Times Book Review's best books of 1980.

[Miguel Salazar]

Worth mentioning.

[Gilbert Cruz]

We were on it. Look at this go.

[MJ Franklin]

And I regret that it took me so long to read it, partly because I have read lots of Toni Morrison. I've Read lots of Salman Rushdie. I've read lots of the writers who are writing in his shadow. And therefore the impact of the book felt a little blunted to me. It felt wonderful, but it didn't feel like it landed with a meteor because I was already familiar with the ground that it had created that had grown up around it somehow.

[Gilbert Cruz]

This feels very fitting, given the theme of, like, history and family and lineage in this book, that you have been privy and knowledgeable of the lineage that he created without. And then he is the patriarch. And he's the patriarch.

[Miguel Salazar]

On a note on the translation, before we move on, I know Edith Grossman is the other translator who's worked on a lot of Garcia Marquez's books, but I found this translation really smooth and. And I've only read fragments of the Spanish, but even reading it, I could picture the original and trying to reverse engineer back into how Garcia Marquez wrote it. He's a wordsmith, and I did have to look up a lot of words in each chapter. Aside from that, I feel like the rhythm of the book, as I mentioned, is just really. It's just really well done. And Rabassa does he translated, I guess.

[Gilbert Cruz]

Before we go, the last thing I wanted to say is one of the things that I've been loving about reading this and talking with readers about this book is hearing about how they first came to Garcia Marquez. We have this space in our book club hub called Garcia Marquez Memories, and people were sharing the first times they read his work. And I wanted to read out a few. Barbara from Oakdale writes, one Christmas during the 1990s, I lived alone in a house in the country. A very deep snow halted all travel. I started to read 100 Years of Solitude without stopping. The first magical sentence was addictive. When I had finished it, I immediately started to read it again. Lived in the village of Macondo for quite some time. Yes, the ending is precious and powerful. The book is still on my nightstand. Someone named Kimothy from Boston wrote, I was madly in love for the first time when I started reading Love in the Time of Cholera. Different book, but still Garcia Marquez. My boyfriend was reading it. He was a literature major, so I picked. That was over 30 years ago. My love of this book far outlasted that relationship, but I'm so grateful to the lasting memories of both. And those are two. But that space, Garcia Marquez Memories is just full of just very delightful stories. So I wanted to tell people to go check that out and then to also read this book. I was just re delighted and lit anew reading this after even having read it before. Hopefully 10 years from now I'll be back here on the show.

[MJ Franklin]

I'm looking forward to reading it again.

[Miguel Salazar]

Ten years from now once Netflix relaunches, does another adaptation.

[Gilbert Cruz]

Exactly. That's all the time we have for today. Miguel, Greg, I just want to say this was so fun. I want to say a huge thank you. Thank you for joining us.

[Miguel Salazar]

Thank you, M.J. thanks for having us.

[Gilbert Cruz]

And thank you to everyone who read along with us online. Please keep the conversation going. You can find our book club hub [e-mail] gabrielgarciamarquezbookclub. Continue to share your thoughts and talk with other readers about the book there. Also, I teased it at the beginning and now we are here, the moment where we reveal our December book club book. In December, we'll be discussing small things like these by Claire Keegan. We figured it's the holidays, so let's dive into a smart, deep novel, but also a slim novel set during the season. That conversation will air on December 20th. We hope you'll join us. And until next time, happy reading.

[MJ Franklin]

That was MJ Franklin in conversation with Greg Coles and Miguel Salazar About 100 Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez. I'm Gilbert Cruz, editor of the New York Times Book Review. Thanks for listening.