The Book Review Podcast

Book Club: Let's Talk About 'Pride and Prejudice'

Host: Gilbert Cruz
Date: September 26, 2025
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Overview

In this special book club episode, the New York Times Book Review team dives into Jane Austen’s timeless classic, Pride and Prejudice, celebrating the 250th anniversary of Austen’s birth. The episode offers an illuminating Austen primer from resident expert Sarah Lyle and then segues into a lively group discussion among Book Review editors about the novel’s enduring appeal, its sharp wit, innovative narrative style, and why it remains so vital centuries after publication.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Jane Austen: The Person Behind the Icon

Segment: 02:14–19:58

Austen’s Life, Social Context, and Personality

• Biographical Sketch: Seventh of eight children, born 1775; “Her father was a clergyman. She died at age 41. Money was always an issue for the family.” – Sarah Lyle (06:24)
• Austen’s wit was legendary; much of her personal correspondence was burned by family—likely to protect reputations due to her “very, very sharp” commentary.
• On marriage: Austen never married and insisted (even when proposed to) that people “should really marry somebody they loved, not just get married out of convenience.” – Lyle (08:41)

Austen’s Craft and Innovations

• Observational genius: “She takes a small life and makes it big because of her imagination and the way you can describe it.” – Lyle (09:49)
• Literary innovation: Mastery of “free indirect style”—narration that fluidly adopts a character’s voice or perspective while remaining in the third person (15:12).
• Austen’s defense of the novel as a serious literary form: “It really plumbs people's emotions...much more heartfelt than those other types of books.” – Lyle (15:12)
• The famous opening line of Pride and Prejudice is, in fact, “parroting the view of mothers of single daughters throughout the region…an example of [free indirect style]” (17:02).

Rereading Austen

• “I think everyone should read it again and again. I really do. It really, really rewards rereading.” – Sarah Lyle (19:47)

2. Setting the Table: What Is Pride and Prejudice?

Segment: 22:46–25:57

Plot & Character Overview

• No zombies—just the original “enemies to lovers” Regency romance (22:49).
• Focus on the Bennet family, five daughters, marriage and economic survival. “Marriage was high stakes...especially for young women in a family of five girls whose parents did not have a big fortune.” – Emily Aiken (24:43)
• “The economics of it all is really foregrounded” (25:17), especially the entailment of the Bennet estate.

The Iconic Opening Line

• Collective attempt at memory and recitation:
  • “It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune must be in want of a wife.” (25:35–25:57)

3. Why Does Pride and Prejudice Still Feel Fresh?

Segment: 26:13–30:57

Timeless Concerns & Contemporary Resonance

• “There is nothing about this book that feels fusty or old or dated...the concerns and the embarrassments and the infatuations...feels so fresh and present.” – Jen Harlan (26:31)
• The core questions of love, compatibility, status, and family approval remain “so universal” ("It still matters who we date...we still, it still matters that we share values" – Greg Coles (27:35)).
• “This is the human social game that we're all playing even now in 2025.” – Emily Aiken (28:28)
• Austen “invented a genre...the romantic comedy, the Happy Ever After, the marriage plot" (29:08).

On Dialogue & Language

• “The novel for me was a celebration of romance as repartee...the pursuit of love through the sparring of wit...just the most thrilling thing to watch on the page.” – Emily Aiken (29:55)
• “They have such good chat and good banter in this book and that really does make the difference.” – Jen Harlan (30:57)

4. Experiencing Austen: Rereadings and Audiobooks

Segment: 31:10–34:37

Evolution as Readers

• “Every time I read it...I find myself laughing at different moments each time.” – Jen Harlan (32:34)
• Discovery through audio:
  • Pride and Prejudice as “so transporting” when narrated by Kate Redding (32:36), Rosamund Pike (33:06), or Kate Beckinsale (34:12).
• “She [Pike] is a wonderful, wonderful embodiment of every character. And I was just—I was enchanted. When I got to the end. I started back at the beginning.” – Emily Aiken (33:47)

5. On Miscommunication, Letters, and the Art of the Social Game

Segment: 35:41–39:58

• “One of the tropes I really dislike...is the miscommunication trope...And yet I feel like here that felt so rich and dynamic and didn't feel frivolous.” – MJ Franklin (35:55)
• “So much of it is not misunderstanding each other, but it's the role that gossip plays in the book...And Darcy wins her over with a letter." – Greg Coles (37:40)
• “Remarkable...Letters move back and forth within an afternoon. It's interesting...news moved very quickly” (38:37).
• “I was really conscious of how much darker the novel seemed to me...the levels of deception...everyone is deceiving." – Emily Aiken (38:46)

6. Deception, Social Comedy, and Family Dynamics

Segment: 39:58–45:36

• The “pretty privilege” of Wickham, the dangers of self-deception, and the various ways the social and economic forces shape the lives of characters.
• “Mr. Bennet...they tend to make him a little bit...warmer and more sympathetic...But I found myself really resistant to him on this read." – Jen Harlan (40:43)
• “Elizabeth has some of his tartness and acidity...They both play [the social game] begrudgingly and thinking that they are above it and yet they are so engaged.” – Jen Harlan (41:51)

7. Beloved Characters, Enduring Scenes, and Literary Techniques

Segment: 43:17–47:47

• Favorite comic moments: Mary’s awkward singing, Mr. Collins' oblivious (and hilarious) proposal, Lady Catherine’s high-handedness.
• “Mr. Collins...is truly one of the best pompous, oblivious, odious characters in literature." – Jen Harlan (45:06)

Reading Austen Today

• Book’s tropes have defined modern romance: Enemies-to-lovers, he falls first, miscommunication, romantic lead from different worlds.
• “Mr. Darcy qualifies [as a proto-shadow daddy].” – Jen Harlan (47:49)
• Debates whether the book is “ultimately conservative...or a liberal book on this issue or on romance?” – Emily Aiken (49:39)

8. Feminism, Individual Choice, and Progressiveness

Segment: 49:39–52:43

• “Elizabeth as somebody who speaks her mind and is independent, it is by nature a progressive, a liberal figure choosing a conservative path." – Greg Coles (51:23)
• “She refuses to conform to class conventions. She tells Lady de Bourgh...she speaks her mind to her class superior.” – Emily Aiken (51:51)

9. Literary Innovation and Efficiency

Segment: 56:14–57:41

• Austen's use of free indirect discourse—“part of what makes it...so delicious and immersive”—allows access to multiple characters' minds (56:14).
• “There is not a single word in excess. I marvel at the economy and elegance of literally every sentence.” – Emily Aiken (57:19)

10. Reader Comments: Voices from the Community

Segment: 54:43–55:06

• Readers of diverse backgrounds praised the structure, wit, and enduring truths in Austen’s work. “I reread it about once a year and I have done so for two decades. I love that.” – PM Brigg (54:43)

11. Recommended Reads: What to Pair with Pride and Prejudice

Segment: 58:03–63:59

Direct Retellings and Modern Takes

• Sonali Dev’s "Pride, Prejudice and Other Flavors": A gender-swapped, Indian-American retelling; “navigating class differences…and great descriptions of food and tastes” – Jen Harlan (58:28)
• Emily Henry’s "Book Lovers": Enemies-to-lovers banter, big city vs. small town, sisterhood, and the “mean brunette from New York” trope (60:20–60:31).

Literary Counterpoints and Companions

• "The Marriage Plot" by Jeffrey Eugenides: Modern academic novel in dialogue with Austen’s themes—“a wonderful send up of the academy, but it’s also a kind of a love letter to Jane Austen and her ilk.” – Emily Aiken (61:05)
• Barbara Pym, Elizabeth Taylor, Muriel Spark: For English social comedies in Austen’s tradition (62:43).
• More Austen: Persuasion highlighted as a “counter melody” to P&P—“grappling with real regret and grief about love lost. And there’s…so much mourning in it.” – MJ Franklin (63:11).
• "Washington Square" by Henry James: For a darker take on love and social constraints (63:59).
• Sally Rooney’s novels: “Novels of manners that use love to open up social critiques.” – MJ Franklin (65:53)
• "Such a Fun Age" by Kiley Reid: “Sharply observed...social commentary.” – MJ Franklin (66:01)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Austen’s staying power:
  “When I think of the phrase the OG and also the goat, like both of those, I’m like, that’s Jane Austen. Like, she did it. Everyone has just been trying to live up to her game.” – Jen Harlan (37:18)

• On Austen’s comedy:
  “When she puts dialogue into people’s voices, it’s so, so funny. And...it takes a lot of skill to write like that, but you also have to have a really sharp satirical eye.” – Sarah Lyle (18:45)

• On Elizabeth Bennet:
  “She is that girl, as they say. 250 years later.” – MJ Franklin (37:29)

• On the rewards of reading and rereading:
  “Time really can change your perspective on a book.” – Beth from Oak Park (54:43)

• On language and craft:
  “Omit needless words. Each sentence is perfectly structured and designed, forming a complete and tightly woven tapestry.” – Dee, listener comment (54:43)

Conclusion

This episode captures the heart, humor, and enduring innovation of Pride and Prejudice, while also celebrating Jane Austen’s relentless intelligence, distinctive literary voice, and cultural impact. The hosts and panelists all agree: whether you’re reading it for the first or the fiftieth time, Austen’s classic always has something new to offer. The conversation closes with a round of lively recommendations for what to read next, as well as an invitation to join the community for next month’s book club pick.

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