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The Both& Podcast w/ Benny Perez
Hosted by Benny Perez · ENGLISH
Real conversations with influential voices in faith, leadership, and culture. Each episode features in-depth dialogue with pastors, athletes, entrepreneurs, and creatives who are shaping this generation. Hosted by Benny Perez, this podcast brings insight, inspiration, and authenticity you won’t find anywhere else.
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The Hidden Danger of AI, Isolation, and Church Hopping w/ Michael El-Takrori | Both& Ep.17
4d ago00:57:40Tap to summarizeWhat happens when a generation has unlimited access to information but struggles with transformation?In this episode of the Both& Podcast, Pastor Benny Perez sits down with Pastor Michael El-Takrori to discuss the challenges facing today's generation, from AI and technology to church hopping, spiritual covering, mentorship, and authentic community.They explore why information alone doesn't produce maturity, the dangers of isolation, the importance of being planted in a local church, and why spiritual fathers, mentors, and real relationships are more valuable than ever.If you've ever wondered how to navigate modern technology while staying rooted in biblical truth, this conversation is for you.About Pastor Michael El-Takrori:Michael El-Takrori has spent the last 15 years serving in full-time ministry, helping people grow in their faith and discover God's purpose for their lives. Alongside his wife, Gia, he served in youth ministry for many years before stepping into multiple leadership roles at ChurchLV, where he currently serves as an Executive Pastor, Young Adults Pastor, School of Ministry Director, and Location Pastor.▶️ Listen now:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1PdWGqJ...Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast...👇 Join the Kingdom First community here:https://kingdomfirst.bennyperez.com/📣 Watch more conversations, subscribe for new episodes twice a month!
Transcribe →Demons, Deliverance & Ministry To Gen Z w/ Benjamin Perez | Both& Ep.16
2w ago00:56:15Tap to summarizeIn this episode of the Both & Podcast, Pastor Benny Perez sits down with his oldest son, Benjamin Perez, 25 year old Youth Director at ChurchLV, where he has served for the past 2.5 years —for an honest conversation about spiritual warfare, deliverance, demonic oppression, and the authority believers have in Jesus.Pastor Benny shares real ministry encounters from over 40 years in ministry; including deliverance stories, demonic manifestations, supernatural experiences, and lessons learned from helping people find freedom through Jesus.Benjamin Perez also speaks into why Gen Z is increasingly drawn to spiritual practices without realizing the doors they may be opening.In this episode:• Real deliverance and exorcism stories• The difference between oppression and possession• Why fear is one of the enemy’s greatest weapons• Sleep paralysis and spiritual attacks• Zodiac signs, tarot cards, Ouija boards & open doors• Why believers need to know their authority in Christ• How the name of Jesus brings freedom“This is not a game. This is real.”
Transcribe →From Jewish Roots to Radical Faith w/ Rabbi Jason Sobel | Both& Ep.15
May 700:58:07Tap to summarizeIn this powerful episode of Both&, Pastor Benny Perez sits down with Rabbi Jason to unpack identity, freedom, and the deeper meaning of what Jesus actually paid for on the cross.From a supernatural encounter in heaven to a life of discovering Jesus through the Hebrew Scriptures, Rabbi Jason shares how many people are living stuck, not because God hasn’t moved, but because they’re still thinking like they’re in “Egypt.”If you’ve ever felt stuck, limited, or defined by your past, this episode will challenge and free you.📖 About Rabbi Jason:Rabbi Jason Sobel is a Messianic Jewish rabbi, author, and speaker known for revealing the deep connections between the Old and New Testaments. Raised in a Jewish home in New Jersey, his spiritual journey led him to faith in Jesus (Yeshua), shaping his life’s mission to help people understand the Bible through its Hebrew roots.He is the founder of Fusion Global and serves as a spiritual advisor to The Chosen. Rabbi Jason holds degrees in Jewish Studies and Intercultural Studies and received his rabbinic ordination in 2005.He is the author of several bestselling books, including Mysteries of the Messiah and The God of the Way, and his latest release, Transformed by the Messiah. Through teaching, media, and global tours, he equips believers to walk in a deeper understanding of Scripture and their identity in God.
Transcribe →Can You Be Gifted and Still Out of Alignment? w/ Pastor Jeff T. Osborne | Both& Ep.14
Apr 1601:03:08Tap to summarizeYou can be gifted… and still completely out of alignment.In this powerful conversation, Pastor Benny Perez and Pastor Jeff T. Osborne break down a hard truth most people don’t want to hear: talent doesn’t equal readiness.Many people rush into purpose, platform, and opportunity—but skip the very thing that sustains it: process.You’ll also hear a powerful analogy about being a bullet and not the gun, and why timing, positioning, and alignment determine your impact.If you’ve been feeling stuck, overlooked, or confused about your next step, this message will challenge and realign your perspective!About Jeff T. Osborne:Jeff T. Osborne is a transformational leader, identity coach, author, and speaker whose life reflects resilience and redemption. Once facing prison, homelessness, and deep identity struggles, his journey became a powerful testimony of discovering purpose through transformation.Today, he helps individuals, CEOs, and leaders around the world break limitations, uncover their true identity, and step into alignment in both life and leadership.With over 15 years of experience, he has coached globally and spoken to diverse audiences, guiding people to grow from the inside out and live with clarity, confidence, and purpose.At his core, he is a husband, father, and leader committed to helping others live a life that is loud, large, and loved.
Transcribe →Are You Measuring Success the Wrong Way? w/ Pastor Tim Timberlake | Both& Ep.13
Apr 201:07:44Tap to summarizeCulture is loud—but truth is eternal.In this powerful conversation, Tim Timberlake and Benny Perez dive deep into why this generation is rejecting fake Christianity and craving truth—even when it hurts.They unpack:- Why mislabeling Jesus limits your life- The difference between Jesus as Teacher vs Lord- Why truth must confront, not just comfort- The danger of chasing acceptance over God’s approvalHow culture is attacking the foundation of faithThis isn’t just a conversation, it’s a wake-up call.About Pastor Tim TImberlake:Tim Timberlake serves as the Senior Pastor of Celebration Church. He’s a graduate of the Pistis School of Ministry in Detroit, Michigan. Pastor Tim is a gifted communicator and teacher who has the ability to communicate to people from all walks of life. His sense of humor, combined with his in-depth Bible teaching, gives the listener and reader the tools to transform their lives from the inside out. He takes pleasure in the small things, is an avid sports fan, and a popular thought leader. Pastor Tim lives in Jacksonville, FL with his wife Jen and son Maxwell. The Timberlake’s feel most alive when they are pouring back into others, and they seek to glorify God through their lives and family.
Transcribe →Why Your Faith Needs Community w/ Pastor Dustin Bates | Both& Ep.12
Mar 1900:48:12Tap to summarizeGod is speaking… the real question is—can you perceive Him? 👀In this powerful episode of the Both& Podcast, Pastor Benny Perez welcomes back Pastor Dustin Bates for a deep and timely conversation on hearing the voice of God, real encounters, and living a faith that goes beyond just “me and Jesus.”They unpack why it’s not that God is silent, but that we’re often distracted… how proximity to God changes everything… and why both private AND corporate encounters are essential for real spiritual growth. 🔥This episode will challenge isolated faith and remind you that your gift isn’t just for you, it’s meant to impact others. From the story of Samuel to life-changing encounters, you’ll see how one moment with God can shift your entire trajectory.If you’ve felt distant, too busy, or unsure if God is speaking, this conversation will awaken your awareness of His presence.
Transcribe →How Leaders Survive Betrayal in Ministry w/ Pastor Travis Greene | Both& Ep.11
Mar 500:48:54Tap to summarizeWhat does it take to carry both excellence AND the Holy Spirit — without losing your heart in the process?In this powerful episode of the Both& Podcast, Pastor Benny sits down with Pastor Travis Greene for one of the most honest leadership conversations we’ve had yet.They dive into the tension between structure and Spirit… but the conversation goes deeper than expected, straight into betrayal, bitterness, submission, accountability, and finishing well in ministry.This isn’t surface-level leadership talk. This is heart surgery.“Your heart is a house. Bitterness gives someone a room — and locks you out.”If you are a pastor, worship leader, creative, entrepreneur, or believer navigating leadership pressure, church hurt, correction, or betrayal — this conversation will challenge and strengthen you.Ministry flows from the heart.Creativity flows from the heart.Longevity flows from the heart.Guard it.About Pastor Travis Greene:Travis is a Grammy-nominated gospel recording artist, pastor, husband, and father. He and his wife, Dr. Jackie Greene (author, dentist, and mentor), co-pastor Forward City Church in Columbia, South Carolina. Through music and ministry, Travis is passionate about unifying the Body of Christ and exposing people to the transformative love of Jesus. When he’s not traveling or leading, he’s spending time with his wife and their three boys, Jace, Josh, and Judah.
Transcribe →Stop Processing Pain Through Culture w/ Pastor Ken Claytor | Both& Ep.10
Feb 1900:59:21Tap to summarizeIn this powerful episode of the Both& Podcast, Pastor Benny Perez and Pastor Ken Claytor confront some of the most pressing cultural conversations through a Kingdom lens.- Forgiving racism and reverse racism- Refusing victim and entitlement mentalities- Why promotion comes from the Lord- Raising children with kingdom identity- Work ethic, integrity, and biblical diligence- Why your pastor is not your puppet- Speaking with boldness without losing love- Revival, awakening, and what God is doing right nowWe don’t wrestle against flesh and blood. The real battle is spiritual.This episode will challenge your mindset and provoke deeper thought about how believers should live in a divided culture.About Pastor Ken Claytor: Ken Claytor has a heart to bring people of all backgrounds together to experience the power and love of Jesus. For over 18 years, he has shared the gospel globally while breaking barriers and redefining diversity in the local church.He and his wife Tabatha lead Alive Church — a multi-generational, multi-ethnic church with campuses in Gainesville and Orlando, Florida, and online. What began with just six adults has grown into a thriving ministry reaching thousands each weekend.Pastor Ken is also the founder of the Alive Leadership Institute, host of the Alive Conference, and a sought-after speaker. He and Tabatha have been married for 26 years and have three children.If this conversation encouraged you, don’t forget to like, and share with someone who needs a reminder that there is power in the name of Jesus.
Transcribe →The Hidden Layers of Scripture Most Christians Miss w/ Pastor Jamie Bates | Both& Ep.9
Feb 500:38:55Tap to summarizeWhat happens when you believe God is real, but struggle to feel Him?In this powerful podcast conversation, Pastor Jamie Bates of Church 1132 shares how a deep dive into Scripture transformed her faith, healed a season of doubt, and revealed the Bible as a living, layered narrative, not just a rulebook.From feeling out of place in church culture, to wrestling with disappointment, to discovering Jesus through the story behind the story, this conversation is for thinkers, feelers, and anyone who’s ever wondered if something was wrong with them for not “feeling it” the way others do.If you’ve ever felt disconnected, disappointed, or unsure how to approach the Word of God, this conversation will challenge and encourage you.About Pastor Jamie Bates:Pastor Jamie Bates is a pastor, leader, and communicator with a heart for people and a passion for seeing lives transformed by Jesus. Alongside her husband, Pastor Dustin, she pastors Church Eleven32, helping lead the church with wisdom, authenticity, and compassion.Jamie is deeply committed to building healthy families, empowering women, and creating spaces where people can encounter God and walk in freedom. She and Dustin live in the DFW area with their two sons, Jude and Genesis.
Transcribe →When God Moves Through You w/ Tim Storey | Both& Ep.8
Jan 1500:51:47Tap to summarizeWhat happens when you truly encounter the power of God?In this powerful and deeply personal podcast episode, Pastor Benny sits down with longtime mentor and friend Tim Storey to talk about the supernatural, healing, impartation, and what it means to live out the “Jesus style” of ministry.From firsthand encounters with God’s presence to stories of healing, bold faith, and learning how to move in the anointing, this conversation pulls back the curtain on what it looks like to walk in spiritual authority with humility, courage, and authenticity.👤 About Tim StoreyTim Storey is an acclaimed culture-influencing thought leader, life strategist, author, speaker, and counselor. Known for his insight and mentorship among high-profile leaders, athletes, and individuals navigating seasons of recovery and rediscovery, he has been widely recognized as The Original Comeback Coach. With decades of ministry experience, Tim carries a powerful legacy of faith, healing, and impartation, inspiring people to encounter God’s presence and step boldly into their calling.
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