Lordy, lordy, Sarah is almost 40! In this episode, Susie shares a wild story she heard about the OJ Simpson case that has her questioning everything. We also dive into the America's Next Top Model documentary. As two women with reality TV backgrounds, we found it triggering, and discuss why people get so offended when we share negative experiences from our time on MTV.

From the chaos of TV to the delights of recovery, we then explore the topic of EMDR therapy. We break down what experts are saying about it, why there is disagreement on why it works, and the concerns about some therapists getting fast and loose with their implementation of it. Finally, Susie discusses an interview with a woman who had no idea she was pregnant and accidentally gave birth in a toilet. We examine how it is possible for someone to be completely unaware of their pregnancy.

In This Episode:

Sarah is almost 40!
A wild story about the OJ Simpson case
The America's Next Top Model documentary and our MTV reality TV experiences
What experts say about EMDR therapy and its implementation
How someone can not know they are pregnant and give birth in a toilet

00:00 - Celebrating Sarah's 40th Birthday and New Life Priorities

02:38 - Discovering Joy in Zumba with Weights and Heels

06:36 - Unpacking the Wild OJ Simpson Son Conspiracy Theory

09:37 - Sarah's Birthday Celebrations and Mom's Recovery Journey

12:56 - Finding Inspiration in Older Olympians and Age Milestones

16:51 - Susie's Humorous Longitudinal Study Urine Sample Incident

21:17 - Healthy, Easy Meals with Hungry Root Delivery Service

23:39 - The Triggering Truth of America's Next Top Model Exploitation

37:49 - Finding Emotional Support and Feeling Lighter with Better Help

40:16 - Why People Dismiss Negative Reality TV Experiences

45:35 - How EMDR Therapy Reprocesses Trauma and Negative Beliefs

53:05 - The Shocking Story of an Accidental Toilet Birth

59:58 - Exposing Gender Bias in 'Psychotherapist' vs. 'Therapist' Titles

01:05:31 - Final Thoughts and Verbo Care Partnership

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987: Triggering MTV Experience, America's Next Top Model Documentary, and EMDR Therapy