Best of full interview: 85 South Show Talks Ownership, The Art Of Roasting People, Legacy, Tour + More

Summary

The Breakfast Club – “Best Of” Full Interview: 85 South Show Talks Ownership, The Art Of Roasting People, Legacy, Tour + More

Date: December 29, 2025
Guests: 85 South Show (Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly, Chico Bean)
Hosts: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God

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Overview

This episode of The Breakfast Club features an energetic and hilarious full interview with the core trio of the 85 South Show: Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly, and Chico Bean. The crew dives into the realities and rewards of ownership in entertainment, the camaraderie and art of roasting, health and wellness among Black men, touring and building legacy, as well as reflections on cancel culture and authenticity. Throughout the conversation, their signature comic instinct shines, offering listeners insight into their bond, business moves, and philosophy on life while keeping the vibe playful and real.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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Touring, Growth & Comedy Roots

• Tour Vibes: The trio shares their love for being on the road, connecting with different cities and cultures, maintaining fresh material from real-life experiences while performing.
  • “Being on the road is the blessing. Like, I always tell people, you can’t complain about the blessings God gives you, because if you didn’t have it… that’s what you’d be asking for.” – DC Young Fly [06:46]
• On Venue Size & Audience Connection:
  • They enjoy both intimate venues and arena shows, always aiming to maintain that club-like, personal energy even in larger spaces. Improvisation keeps shows feeling unique.
  • “The goal is to make the arena feel like the club.” – Chico Bean [08:58]
• On Material Creation:
  • Travelling to varied cities is a source for new perspectives and comedic material. Each city leaves something new to use on stage. [07:23]

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Health, Wellness & Breaking Habits

• Motivation for Health:
  • Chico Bean discusses his journey with high blood pressure, the necessity of changing eating habits, and the importance of Black men going to the doctor.
    • “I recommend all Black men to go get their blood pressure checked, man. Cause it’s very, very important. And you end up walking around with one Jordan on if you don’t, man.” – Chico Bean [11:23]
  • The group roasts each other about age, medical experiences, and the importance of health checks (prostate, colonoscopy) with plenty of jokes.
    • “Wait till y’all gotta get them prostates checked, though.” – Karlous Miller [12:46]

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Group Dynamics & Decision-Making

• Brotherhood & Leadership:
  • Their partnership is based on family-like trust and communication, rarely publicly disagreeing and always dealing with internal matters privately.
    • “You know, the things you go through with your family… whatever the conversation is, it’s always in house. And we always take care of it. It’s never public.” – DC Young Fly [15:21]
  • Karlous Miller is acknowledged as the visionary and OG of the group.
    • “He always had that vision to see past wherever we were at in the moment.” – DC Young Fly [16:10]
• Business Decisions:
  • Decisions are made through honest conversation; support and understanding overrule ego.

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Ownership & Building a Brand

• Hard Lessons on Ownership:
  • The group emphasizes the significance of owning your content and business. Owning assets provides negotiation power and allows for walking away from bad deals.
    • “You take away the negotiation power from people when you own your product… when you own it, it gives you a level of freedom.” – DC Young Fly [19:32]
  • They stress that mistakes with your own money are learning lessons, not failures.
    • “The mistakes are lessons. So every mistake we had, we just figured out, oh, you know what? Let’s just do something different then.” – DJ Envy [21:02]

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Roasting, Comedy Ethics, & Sensitivity

• Roasting with Love:
  • Roasting is a defense mechanism and camaraderie. They rarely cross the line, making sure jokes are not malicious, and keep it meaningful for the show and guests.
    • “Even when we do roast people, even the people we roasting can laugh at. We don’t just go for what’s obvious.” – Chico Bean [23:26]
• Special Bond:
  • The ability to communicate silently and know exactly what each other is thinking—"We have a connection; you dig what I’m saying?” – DJ Envy [23:45]

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Keeping it Real in an Era of “Fake Real Talk”

• Authenticity vs. “Fake Deep:”
  • The 85 South Show prides itself on authenticity, avoiding the currently popular “fake real talk,” or motivational fluff.
    • “Being in this era… with the fake, real talk, that don’t really apply to us because we know that the people that are watching us are looking to us to confirm that what they feel is accurate.” – DC Young Fly [24:36]
  • “When people say fake deep stuff and they put the little soft music behind it… that’s some of the best motivations.” – Chico Bean [25:20]

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Success, Doubt, and Legacy

• Proving Doubters Wrong:
  • There’s satisfaction in surprising those who doubted them, but lasting legacy is more complex than just proving haters wrong.
    • “The proving people wrong part just feel good… But I don’t think the doubting part, you know what I mean?” – DJ Envy [33:10]
• Defining Legacy:
  • For each, true legacy includes generational wealth, family education, and creating an impact that outlives them.
    • “For me, it’s the picture over the fireplace... All of this ain’t for me, it’s for the people that come after me. …That’s what real wealth is to me.” – DC Young Fly [48:56]
    • “I want the family to have the education and the financial knowledge to take whatever I do and then flip that… then put our family name on some buildings.” – Chico Bean [50:00]

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Cancel Culture & Social Climate

• Changing Meaning of ‘Cancel Culture’:
  • The group agrees that cancel culture has lost its bite, especially for those legitimized by their own communities or “when God puts you on.”
    • “Ain’t no such thing as cancel culture. Especially when God put you on. Can’t no people close the door that God opened…” – DJ Envy [41:22]
  • Current political/social climate makes cancellation less relevant; real consequences should apply to bigger societal offenders.

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Supporting Black Women & Community

• Building Family Vibes:
  • The guys discuss supporting women-led platforms (like Poor Minds), creating spaces where women thrive as equals and not just as objects, providing a truly supportive, safe environment.
    • “Just black women flourish and having kings behind them that’s supporting… sometimes we have to understand that we need to have relationships with women without being sexual.” – DJ Envy [38:56]
    • “We always try to make sure our presence makes our women feel comfortable and safe, that they can be themselves.” – DC Young Fly [39:21]

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Announcements & The Road Ahead

• 85 South x Kevin Hart Movie & Tour:
  • “We just got the movie deal with Kevin Hart.” – Chico Bean [52:25]
  • Announced new tour dates for 85 South Show, spanning multiple major cities, with ticket details shared. [53:21]
  • “85SouthShow.com, channel 85 on the App Store, bmanshows.com…” [53:50]
• Aiming for More:
  • Despite their success, they see themselves just at the beginning, with more ventures ahead.

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Notable & Memorable Quotes

• On Ownership:
  • “Being able to walk away from money, being able to say no… a lot of times the opportunity isn’t attached to a dollar.” – DC Young Fly [19:32]
• On Brotherhood:
  • “We all started with nothing… and he always had that vision to see past wherever we were at in the moment.” – DC Young Fly [16:10]
• On Legacy:
  • “Leaving a legacy that is going to last beyond my lifetime. That’s what real wealth is to me. …Being able to create something that’s going to last long after I’m gone.” – DC Young Fly [48:56]
• On Roasting:
  • “Even when we do roast people, even the people we roasting can laugh at. We don’t just go for what’s obvious.” – Chico Bean [23:26]
• On Cancel Culture:
  • “Ain’t no such thing as cancel culture. Especially when God put you on… Can’t no people close the door that God opened…” – DJ Envy [41:22]
• On Authenticity:
  • “We know that the people watching us are looking to us to be able to confirm that what they feel is accurate. We owe that to the people that support us.” – DC Young Fly [24:36]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Touring & Comedy Life: [06:00–09:05]
• Health & Black Men: [09:31–12:40]
• Brotherhood, Leadership & Vision: [15:21–17:57]
• Ownership & Learning Lessons: [19:23–21:43]
• Roasting Ethics: [21:43–24:15]
• Cancel Culture Reality: [41:15–42:39]
• Supporting Black Women (Poor Minds): [38:44–41:15]
• Movie Deal & Tour Announcement: [52:25–53:47]
• Defining Legacy: [48:46–51:42]

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Tone & Energy

The episode is filled with humor, good-natured ribbing, and deep honesty. The 85 South crew keeps things light even when discussing more serious subjects such as legacy, Black men’s health, and financial independence, seamlessly blending comedy with vulnerability and wisdom.

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For More:
Visit 85SouthShow.com or follow on social media for tour updates or watch for more news on their upcoming movie deal with Kevin Hart.

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Transcript

[Ben]

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[DC Young Fly]

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[Chico Bean]

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[DC Young Fly]

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[Chico Bean]

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[Karlous Miller]

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[Chico Bean]

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[Karlous Miller]

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[Chico Bean]

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[Karlous Miller]

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[Chico Bean]

You know what I mean? Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there.

[DJ Envy]

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[DC Young Fly]

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[DJ Envy]

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[DJ Envy]

Early in the morning.

[DC Young Fly]

The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody. It's DJ that we just got in here, man.

[Host/Interviewer]

The guy we are the Breakfast Club. We got some special guests in the building.

[Karlous Miller]

My guys, 85. What up?

[DC Young Fly]

What up, Miller, Chico Bean.

[Host/Interviewer]

Welcome, fellas.

[DC Young Fly]

Man, whatever, man. Why y' all got that freaky ass picture of Big Sean on the table?

[DJ Envy]

He put it on his computer.

[DC Young Fly]

Keep throwing it at you.

[Chico Bean]

Why?

[DJ Envy]

What he was accent. He wanted to know where if you want to get the surgery came from. And so we printed out a couple pictures.

[DC Young Fly]

About to get there.

[Host/Interviewer]

I'm not getting no abs catching, man.

[DC Young Fly]

About to get a bbl.

[Chico Bean]

No, don't do that. Envy you already rich, bro. Just get fat.

[Karlous Miller]

That's you supposed to do when you get rich.

[Chico Bean]

I don't know why everybody want to be in shape. What happened to getting money and getting fat, bro?

[Karlous Miller]

Well, you want to live, though, so you want to. You want to be alive. That's all a man.

[Chico Bean]

Get out of here.

[DC Young Fly]

That's literally what you going to do. Get out of here.

[Chico Bean]

Get out of here. Just let me have one of them waters. Thank you.

[Karlous Miller]

What y' all up here for, man? I know y' all got.

[DJ Envy]

What type of is this, man?

[DC Young Fly]

Look, man, you know time for this, man. Disrespectful. What we up here for?

[Chico Bean]

Y' all been treating the guest lately. I saw the neon clip. Y' all never start a streaming career.

[Karlous Miller]

Y' all already blocked the man on Harriet Tubman, man.

[Chico Bean]

He did.

[DC Young Fly]

He on who on Harriet Tubman? Somebody on Harriet Tubman.

[Karlous Miller]

That's what he did, man. Man, y.

[DC Young Fly]

Listen, man. The content's falling off. If y' all got to interview people that know har tman. Y' all have lost Luster. And y' all had him up here. And then y'. All. What we up here for?

[DJ Envy]

Invited him up here. You know that's not true.

[Karlous Miller]

What happened was he. He reached out to me to do his stream, but then he kept asking to come up here because he wanted to announce that he was leaving Kick.

[DJ Envy]

To Go to Go to Twitch.

[Karlous Miller]

I'm like, I don't care. We've had a scream up here before. DDG been up here, so why not?

[Host/Interviewer]

He didn't even announce. He was like, I'm not announcing it here.

[DC Young Fly]

He was like, I don't even want to announce it.

[Karlous Miller]

I mean, we. I mean, we've interviewed people that I wanted to come up. I bought to say we had Big.

[DJ Envy]

Dank up here, the Detroit rapper, You know, Big Dank?

[DC Young Fly]

Oh, the one that had that lawsuit. Hey, you know what? See, man, look, man, don't understand.

[Chico Bean]

Now. You turn it back to the old you, man.

[DC Young Fly]

He didn't got that glitter on the top of his head. Now. I don't know what that is.

[DJ Envy]

What.

[DC Young Fly]

What you did to your head, man. Why is it glittering?

[Karlous Miller]

It's glittering.

[DC Young Fly]

Through menopause, man. Going through menopause, man.

[DJ Envy]

They is because of. They on tour. I was about to say that before they.

[Host/Interviewer]

You said, what the hell y' all doing?

[Chico Bean]

Y Like, we just showed up.

[Karlous Miller]

First of all, we love having y'.

[Chico Bean]

All.

[DJ Envy]

How.

[Karlous Miller]

Let's start there. Chico and D.C. be in D.C. always late.

[DC Young Fly]

I mean, you know, come up here.

[DJ Envy]

You know that he always coming.

[DC Young Fly]

Nah, he on his way. He on his way, man. Y' all had that monsoon up here the other day. We all almost didn't get in. Y' all had the. In the arms of the angel. Y' all was struggling up here the other day.

[Chico Bean]

Yeah.

[Karlous Miller]

How do y' all like? Y. Y' all still like being on the road?

[Chico Bean]

Absolutely.

[Karlous Miller]

Okay.

[Chico Bean]

Absolutely. That's.

[Karlous Miller]

It's.

[Chico Bean]

The road is where it said, as an entertainer, bro, you don't have to be at home. People giving you checks, eating good food, find women.

[DJ Envy]

What's the favorite city? I know it's different for both of y'. All. It's favorite cities, the hit, wherever.

[DC Young Fly]

No, I don't. I mean, whatever. Yeah, exactly. I mean, I love Detroit. I love Chicago. I mean, you know. You know, when you travel, you go to different places and you get responses from people that make you love the city for different things. But to answer your question, Charlamagne, like, it's. Being on the road is the blessing. Like, I always tell people, you can't complain about the blessings God give you, because if you didn't have it. That's what you would be asking for. You would be asking to be on the road all the time. So gotta love it. Cause you get to do what you love and you get paid for it. It's a beautiful thing.

[Karlous Miller]

How do y' all work on material.

[Host/Interviewer]

When you're always on the road? Like, you're always out, whether it's together, whether it's apart, whether it's wild n out, whether you're like, y' all always on the road. So how do y' all work on material?

[DC Young Fly]

I mean, because you always on the road, you see things. You see different things. You see different perspectives when you go to different cities. You know, you perform everywhere. Everywhere you go, they got different cultures and different ways of doing things. So you get to visualize all of that, and it goes into your stage show. Cause when you performing for people, they want to hear your perspective on their everyday life. And you get to see that when you're on the road. So that's the best part about it.

[Chico Bean]

Plus, when you're in different cities, you only get. You only there for a certain amount of time. So you don't get to see everything. So every time you come back, it's still. It's still new.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah. And then the tour that y' all doing, it's been a black tour. That's y' all going back to the cities that shows y' all the most love.

[Chico Bean]

It's kind of most loved. Places we had fun and places we just wanted to go back. Sometimes it's not just about the show. It's like sometimes the venue be hitting different. And we, you know, since we. We growing with the performance, some of these places, we was like, yeah, we definitely gotta come back. If nothing else, just because we like the setup in here.

[Host/Interviewer]

Now y' all doing big venues, Do y' all prefer the smaller venues? Cause it's more in touch with people. Cause y' all hop out in the crowd at times. Like y' all touch the people.

[DC Young Fly]

Yeah, but that's the good part about us is we have already performed for these people in those intimate settings. So they used to seeing us that way. So it kinda still feels the same even though we in an arena. Cause people still react the same way. They'll come to the front to sure that we see them, or we'll be able to recognize somebody that came to the comedy show when we was doing it at the comedy club and have those recollections to be able to do those type of things in an arena. So it just Hit the same for us. And that's one of the good parts about what we do, because it's always a different show. It's always improvisational, so we never know what we gonna say. Every time it's a different show. So you get to do that even though we in an arena.

[Chico Bean]

The goal is to make the arena feel like the club. Yeah.

[Karlous Miller]

Is it hard? It seems like it's hard to do. Right. Get that kind of intimacy in an arena.

[Chico Bean]

I guess there's a lot more ground to cover, but it's possible. You seen how we. We do. We'll go chico or jump off stage. Riding scooters to the 35th row. We don't care nothing about that. We really just enjoying ourselves and. And, you know, selling these joints out and trying to keep the brand going.

[Karlous Miller]

Chico, you out there looking like Chico Lean, man.

[DC Young Fly]

Yeah, man. I found out I had high blood pressure. I had to change my. Change my diet around. I went to the doct, told me I had high blood pressure. I was like, whatever. I don't care nothing about high blood pressure. And I went back to the doctor, and another doctor came in. Like, when that second police officer come and, you know, you going to jail. That's how the black man came in. He was like, brother, I don't think they did a good enough job of explaining to you the effects of high blood pressure is the biggest killer of black men.

[Karlous Miller]

Heart attacks.

[DC Young Fly]

Heart attacks, all that type of. I'm like, well, what are the effects? He said, erectile dysfunction. I was like, what? I gotta change? I won't even care about food.

[Karlous Miller]

No, man.

[DC Young Fly]

As soon as he said that's all I needed to hear. I'm like, nah, I am too young for that. But, yeah, I had to change a lot of stuff around, man. Can't eat chicken, can't eat brisket, all that type of stuff. And that was one of the most hardest transitions. I tell people now that as black men, we work so hard to build our habits because we start from nothing. So every habit that you get, you hold onto it. And what you put in your body is one of the first ones. You get some money. First thing you do is go eat good. Or what we consider to be eating good. So having to transition and shake that, we were just talking in the green room. Sugar is the worst drug in the world. Cause don't nobody stop you when you got it. You know, you can just have. Yeah, you can just have a plate full of sugar. Everybody be cool. You show up one crack rocket.

[Chico Bean]

What's wrong you know what I'm saying? Crack disrespectful, bro.

[DC Young Fly]

You know what I'm saying?

[Chico Bean]

Can't light up no crack that. Second hand cracks. Nah, don't do that.

[Host/Interviewer]

Secondhand cracks.

[Chico Bean]

Yeah, but that. We try to steal your outfit.

[DC Young Fly]

I know. Yeah, we. You know, Envy light skinned. He been dressing like this. He been dressing like this since the 80s. He wanted to be in. What's that? Ready for the World. Y' all don't know that Envy auditioned for Ready for the World and they make it. But, yeah, man, I feel better, though. That's the best part about it. I feel so much better because once I made that transition, you look at yourself and you don't really see it till you look at old pictures and be like, God damn. N was built bad. But you know what I mean, the transition. I recommend all black men to go get their blood pressure checked, man. Cause it's very, very important. And you end up walking around with one Jordan on if you don't, man.

[Chico Bean]

Listen, blood pressure hurt me so bad when I seen them lose all that weight. I just started losing weight, too. I was like, hey, man, whatever it is you doing, I'm about to do some of that.

[Karlous Miller]

I hope you going to the doctor, Carlo. Yeah, Okay.

[Chico Bean]

I got insurance. That's what you wanted to hear?

[Karlous Miller]

Yes, I got insurance.

[DC Young Fly]

That's what you wanted to hear?

[Karlous Miller]

No. Cause, man, you get to a certain age, I'm 47 now. You got to go get everything checked. Because when you start to realize what leads to heart attacks and what leads to strokes, the high blood pressure, the high cholesterol, stuff we ain't never thought about, and you go to the doctor, like, what does that mean? Then they explain it to you. It's like, oh, I gotta get right.

[Chico Bean]

Yeah, yeah.

[DC Young Fly]

I mean, you definitely got right. You got right long time ago. Once you got that stuff done in your skin.

[Chico Bean]

That's right.

[DC Young Fly]

I knew it was gonna be good. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I know. He got everything taken off, man. Yeah, yeah, he got everything taken off. He got everything taken off. Y' all don't even know. Yeah, he got rid of all that. You know, he got rid of all. He the first one ever look like Mr.

[Karlous Miller]

Terrific from Superman.

[DC Young Fly]

Yeah. You know what I mean?

[Karlous Miller]

He be.

[DC Young Fly]

He sleep with bobby pins pulling his skin back. When he go to sleep at night, he just be in the bed straight up like this. I'm like, so. You know, taking care of yourself is very important, man. And like I said, black men, for some reason, we don't like to go to the doctor, and they just want to keep drinking ginger ales.

[Chico Bean]

And the thing most black men do is walk to the store. Yeah, that's it.

[Karlous Miller]

What?

[Chico Bean]

Just walk to the stove? That's all.

[Karlous Miller]

That's it. Wait till y' all gotta get them prostates checked, though.

[DC Young Fly]

Hey, man, see that? Your freaky ass go, hey, man, why you.

[DJ Envy]

Come on, man.

[DC Young Fly]

It's so much that you could have went to before that, you know what I mean? Wait till y' all get them prostates check. Oh, it's such a beautiful experience. Come on, man.

[Host/Interviewer]

You ain't get your prostate check yet?

[DC Young Fly]

Nah, nah, nah, not yet.

[Chico Bean]

Have you?

[Host/Interviewer]

Yes.

[DC Young Fly]

You said that was prized. You know what I mean? You see Icy? Yes, I have. Yes, I have.

[Host/Interviewer]

Twice, actually, a month.

[DC Young Fly]

Twice?

[Chico Bean]

Twice, yeah.

[DC Young Fly]

What was the first one? A trial run.

[Chico Bean]

I keep getting.

[DC Young Fly]

Yeah, he got his prostate check. As you got a trial run prostate check. I'm gonna let you do it before I go to the doctor to warm myself up.

[Chico Bean]

The doctor tell him, look, we don't gotta do this every time you come.

[DJ Envy]

Why not?

[DC Young Fly]

Why not? I wanna make sure I'm okay.

[Host/Interviewer]

I gotta be healthy.

[Karlous Miller]

When you about 43, 44. If you got a history of it in your family, you supposed to go get it checked.

[DC Young Fly]

Yeah, I know they say it's you got to, but you know, I ain't got there yet.

[Karlous Miller]

No, you got to, Chico. You got to. You can't lose all why you did.

[DC Young Fly]

I mean, okay, I got you. All right? One day I will. And I'm not coming up here to talk to y' all freaking about it.

[Host/Interviewer]

They put you to sleep.

[DC Young Fly]

They give you a drug they shouldn't.

[Chico Bean]

Have to put you to sleep.

[DC Young Fly]

Anytime they gotta. They put you to sleep. You ain't get the regular joke. No, that wasn't a regular one. They sexually assaulted you. They got you on camera. You went to a freak off.

[Chico Bean]

There wasn't no to you Envy you.

[Karlous Miller]

Think about the colon. Check.

[DC Young Fly]

That ain't even the same thing.

[Host/Interviewer]

I was going to the next one.

[Karlous Miller]

No, you weren't.

[DC Young Fly]

Asshole Adventures man on Asshole Adventures out here, man.

[DJ Envy]

What's up with your man?

[Chico Bean]

He on the table, butt, nigga on his stomach. Y' all ain't got nothing else.

[DJ Envy]

Yo.

[Karlous Miller]

Man, y' all look crazy, man.

[DJ Envy]

Look, this one, I wanna know, since it is three of y', all, do y' all ever have have, like, problems making decisions? Because it is three of y', all, right? And say if one of y' all don't want to do Something. How many of y' all have to say, like, no or yes for y' all to, like, collectively agree or disagree on something?

[Chico Bean]

It ain't a whole lot of things we gotta collectively agree on. That's the best part about it. So sometimes we show up with two wrong answers and the right one. And sometimes we have days where people just make their own decision and be like, hey, bro, do what you wanna do, but you got my full support. It ain't a whole lot of things. We don't clash on nothing, really. We don't like the same type of women. We don't hang out at the same type of place. It's just we got a dope bond where it's like, we just. We brothers, man.

[DC Young Fly]

We brothers. And it's just. It's literally family, you know what I'm saying? You know, the things you go through with your family, whatever the conversation is, it's always in house. And we always take care of it. It's never public, you know, never for public consumption. And that's what makes things easier. So when we got to make those decisions, it's always a collective bargaining agreement. And we, you know, whichever way it goes, we all understand it's all done out of love. So it make it easy, you know what I'm saying? And that's what makes us special. Because, you know, you do comedy, it's a one man sport. You on the microphone. So what we do, we show that it's possible to be able to have that type of camaraderie and still get the same product and the same result, even though we're doing it in a different way.

[Karlous Miller]

And y' all trust each other. I saw an interview DC Was doing, and he was just talking about LOS being the og.

[Chico Bean]

Yeah.

[DC Young Fly]

Without question.

[Karlous Miller]

LOS being the leader. I think the question might have been, who's the leader?

[DC Young Fly]

Yeah, who's the leader?

[Karlous Miller]

And I've heard you say that, man. You know how hard that is for men to do?

[DC Young Fly]

Not for us. Because you gotta think about the place that we came from. Like, we all started with nothing. Every time we come to New York, me and Los had this conversation about how we was walking around sending $50 back home Western Union and washing clothes in the basement of the hotel. And when you have that type of vision, that's all you have is the vision at certain points. And he always had that vision to see past wherever we were at in the moment. Always.

[Chico Bean]

And the biggest thing for me, too, I think it's. Cause we was all broken together at some point. You know what I'm saying? And it was like we had those conversations, those late nights, sitting around like, bro, when I get some bread, we gonna. Hey, we gonna do this for real.

[Questlove]

You.

[Chico Bean]

That's what you own, I bet. And then it actually happened. So that was. That was one of those things that really formed the bond too. Yeah, he don't.

[DC Young Fly]

Like I said, he always had division. He was one of the ones that saw, when we were on Wilding out, as great as the opportunity there was for all of us, he was always the one like, man, look, we gotta look past this. We gotta do this, we gotta do that, we gotta do this. And I say that. Cause he's the elder. He went through certain trenches that me and I didn't have to go. They didn't really even exist once we got in the game. I was. I started in 08, and we was the, you know, the last beacon of. Of. There you go. There you go. Look at his face.

[Host/Interviewer]

That looks so mad right now. He's so mad.

[DC Young Fly]

Yeah, we was fly. We was just talking about just the vision that LOS had.

[DJ Envy]

DJ Giggle.

[DC Young Fly]

The vision that LOS had just when we first was starting out to see past the moments that we were at and, you know, have the vision to understand that this was the direction to go in. You know what I'm saying?

[DJ Envy]

Oh, yeah, for sure, man. OG always had the vision. You dig what I'm saying? Like, since day one, he just jumped.

[Host/Interviewer]

Right in and know exactly what we talking about.

[Chico Bean]

Rhode Island. Tell me I was wearing goosebumps. You, though, bro, I ain't got no.

[DC Young Fly]

You wouldn't have bought nothing either way. Only time. Only time you been. Shut up. You talking about. Yeah, we don't care nothing about that. You spend $30,000 a week on skin care routines.

[DJ Envy]

The work over the years, that. That coming along.

[DC Young Fly]

Ain't gonna lie.

[DJ Envy]

You don't look like an orange no more.

[DC Young Fly]

He looked like one of them oranges that's been sitting on the table for years. That's what it used to look like all the way.

[DJ Envy]

But no, man, OGJ always had the vision. You dig what I'm saying? Like, that. I think that what it. That it comes down to, like, if you got something going on and you know you need help. You feel what I'm saying? Then not only that, the dudes you asking for help from, they need help. You feel me? It's a. It's a group collective. And I think that's what. You know what I'm saying? Us as black folk don't do Together, bro. We don't come together, ask for help. Like, asking for help. Thinking, like, you belittling yourself or you like, man, I don't need a nigga, bro. We need each other, bro. And at the end of the day, we can grow together, bro. That's the only way we can go to the next step quicker, you know what I'm saying? Without you trying to do it by yourself. I mean, we all can do things by ourselves, but you see, as a collective, when we do things together, it's like effortlessly, you feel what I'm saying?

[Karlous Miller]

So what's been the biggest lesson in ownership y' all had to learn the hard way.

[DJ Envy]

Don't want to fuck with that own shit.

[DC Young Fly]

Yeah. Because you take away the. The. The negotiation power from people when you own your product, you know what I'm saying? People can't come and give you, you know, give you terms and conditions that you have to adhere to because you need them, you know what I'm saying? And a lot of times in this industry, people, especially the powers that be, they used to you being in need, you know what I'm saying? And they used to being able to throw anything at you and you'll take it because you don't know no better. But when you own it, it gives you a level of freedom that you don't have to worry about certain types of things happening in your negotiations or dealing with certain types of people. And being able to walk away from money, being able to say no. Everybody thinks that the opportunity is attached to a dollar, but a lot of times it's not. But you're not able to see that if you gotta get the dollar, you know what I'm saying?

[Chico Bean]

They gotta handle you way different when they know you don't need it. Like when you said it don't matter the money, sometimes you're like, no, I'm cool. Then they'd be like, well, why. Why though? What you want? Nothing. I just. I don't. I don't see what you.

[DC Young Fly]

What you see, what you need me for.

[Host/Interviewer]

What you think?

[DJ Envy]

Where we going?

[Chico Bean]

Yeah, it's way different when you. When you can say no sometimes.

[DJ Envy]

And sometimes they also think that somebody's already behind you already.

[Chico Bean]

Right.

[DJ Envy]

You know what I'm saying? Like, they just swore we always work for somebody since day one not knowing that we start this from the ground up, trying to figure it out. And I think that it's a difference between when you got people that's putting the money behind you, and then we used our own money, you See what I'm saying? Like, we can't mess up nobody else money. We done messed up a lot of our money. You know what I mean?

[Karlous Miller]

We done messed up a lot of.

[DJ Envy]

Our money, but I think that's the growing pain. That's what comes with understanding. Like, you know what? The mistakes ain't mistakes to us. Yeah. The mistakes are learning lessons. So every mistake we had, we just figured out, oh, you know what? Let's just do something different then, versus we gotta answer to somebody be like.

[Karlous Miller]

Well, why that didn't work then?

[DJ Envy]

We don't see the vision. All right, season two council like, man, we've been doing this since 2015.

[Chico Bean]

Yeah, we took our bumps with our own money. So then when we did get some of their money, we had already went through the errors and it worked out.

[DC Young Fly]

Yeah, it's a lot less pressure not having to recoup somebody else bread.

[DJ Envy]

What are you talking about?

[Chico Bean]

So you can get paid first. When you use your own bread, you ain't got to pay nobody.

[Host/Interviewer]

I was wondering, you know, you guys will roast anybody, anytime, anywhere, any place. It depends who got the most sensitive when it came to this.

[Karlous Miller]

It depends.

[DJ Envy]

For real, D.C. yeah, it depends. See, I use it as a defense mechanism. It ain't just like, I'm just waking.

[DC Young Fly]

Up like, you know, I want to.

[Karlous Miller]

Get on somebody nerve today.

[DJ Envy]

No, it ain't that. You gonna say something to me? I got something back. Like, this is my twin brother. This has always been my twin brother since the day of time. But it's just like, this is my uncle. That's your uncle. See what I'm saying? Now, how the fuck I become your uncle? I wasn't your uncle ever before. I think when you got married, that's when you.

[DC Young Fly]

Yeah, you became Auto. Yeah, she married. She un status, man.

[Chico Bean]

Look at the ring.

[DC Young Fly]

She got the ring on. You know what I mean? Yeah, she married. You know what I mean? She got married. She ain't inviting none of us to the ceremony. I tell you that.

[Karlous Miller]

It was quick. It was quick. She didn't even know.

[DC Young Fly]

She just woke up for real.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, my God, y' all so stupid.

[Host/Interviewer]

But. But did anybody get super duper sensitive? You was like, let's leave him alone.

[DC Young Fly]

Did that ever happen?

[DJ Envy]

Well, on 85 south, no.

[Host/Interviewer]

When you. When you roasted somebody, whether it was.

[Chico Bean]

In personal, you got the most sensitive you.

[DC Young Fly]

But you don't ever do it in front of us.

[Chico Bean]

You and Azealia Banks.

[Host/Interviewer]

Not me.

[Karlous Miller]

Yeah, yeah, you get.

[DC Young Fly]

Yeah, you've been that. You know. You know, he gonna Be mad.

[DJ Envy]

Is it just like, your voice? Like, did you perfect high pitch when.

[Karlous Miller]

Y' all come around?

[DJ Envy]

Like, do you answer the phone like that? No, no. Yo, Charlamagne, what do you want?

[DC Young Fly]

Sound like a Nintendo Wii character. DJ Envy, what do you want?

[Host/Interviewer]

I ain't talking.

[DJ Envy]

I don't know.

[Chico Bean]

I think it's the way that we do it. We don't never try to.

[DC Young Fly]

It ain't never from, like, not malicious.

[Chico Bean]

Even when we do roast people, it's still something that even the people we roasting can laugh at. Like, we don't try to just go for what's obvious. You get what I'm saying? Like, it ain't just the most messed up person. Sometimes we want to find somebody who you could tell when they think they, like, they can't say nothing about me.

[DJ Envy]

I think the bad part is, like, we. We also have a connection. You dig what I'm saying? Like, we don't have to say nothing. It's been plenty of times where we never had to say nothing. But we understood exactly, like, the look.

[Karlous Miller]

The little gesture that we did.

[DJ Envy]

You were like, you caught that. We don't have plenty of people on the show where we like, oh, these folk lame in here for real in real life. But we'll catch it, and we'll just look at each other and it be just hilarious.

[DC Young Fly]

Man, I'm talking.

[DJ Envy]

They don't even know what we laughing at. Like, what y' all laughing at?

[Chico Bean]

You.

[DC Young Fly]

What funny.

[DJ Envy]

You funny. You had your whole entourage.

[Karlous Miller]

Man. The thing I like about y', all, though, y' all all are still honest. Because I feel like we live in this era where it's a lot of fake, real talk out here. Like, people just saying things to go by or saying things what they think sound good. How do y' all stay grounded in truth while still keeping it funny?

[DC Young Fly]

I mean, you. I mean, you think. I think it's just the era we come from and the environment we come from. We all from different places, but we really from the same exact place. We all come from the same type of environment. And when you come out of that environment, you feel a certain connection to the truth, because that's really all you have to live on. And then you judged on that when you come from the places we come from. So being in this era, like you said, with the fake, real talk, that don't really apply to us because we know that the people that are watching us are looking to us to be able to confirm that what they we feel is accurate. And we owe that to the people that support us, you know, we owe it to ourselves first. So it's just important for us to always be able to say whatever it is that's on our minds freely without having to worry about any backlash. Because at the end of the day, that's all you have is your, you know, your balls and your word. Like Scarface said.

[Chico Bean]

I like that fake real talk. Really? Yeah. When people say like fake deep stuff and they put the little soft music behind it, that's some of the best motivations right there. Like, they'll slow the clip down. You know, sometimes you gotta love yourself first before you can love anything else second. And then they put the little piano behind you, change the little clip to that.

[DJ Envy]

Be the most cheating motherfucker on the planet.

[Chico Bean]

Follow that page with all that little fake motivation. I love it.

[DJ Envy]

I feel like, you know, I guess the fake real talk is. Is comes from the masses who would never have said nothing back in the day anyway. You know, social media done enhanced on so much of foolery, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's no more morals, no more. You see what I'm speaks to the.

[Karlous Miller]

Planet Charlemagne, the God here now. You know, the end of the year is when like a lot of business owners, I really lock in, all right? This is the time to set the foundation for next year. You got new ideas, new product drops, new goals. And when I'm building anything meaningful, I need the right tools. That's why I always tell folks, especially black entrepreneurs and small black owned businesses, Shopify is the move, okay? We use it at the Black Effect Podcast network. And I've seen firsthand how it helps creators and business owners grow with confidence. Entrepreneurship is very important to me, okay? There's nothing wrong with working for people. There's nothing wrong with partnering people. But you should strive to own your own as well. And Shopify can help others grow into entrepreneurs. It's like having a whole team behind you. Your chief of staff, your personal assistant, your co founder, all in one platform. Whether you're running a side hustle or a full storefront selling locally or worldwide, Shopify takes all the guesswork out. Shopify brings everything into one place. You can sell on your website, on social media, and even in the real world. Like some of our partners at our Black Effect festival coming up in April. Wherever your people are, Shopify makes sure your business can meet them where they're at. Plus, you got Shopify Sidekick and their AI tools. Total game changers. I love how it's like having an assistant giving you Insight, content, ideas, edits. Shopify's got your next move covered. So let me ask you this. If you're ready to take the next step in your life, whether it's merch products or anything in between, get on shopify.com ben that's shopify.com ben and make it happen. It is time to stop putting off your future and start your new role as your own boss today.

[Chico Bean]

What a matchup we got, y'. All. This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit. Chance, echo, drum beat. Everybody showing that school pride game like this. Yeah, it calls for an ice cold Coca Cola. Ah, crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there. Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Ashes fans, school colors everywhere. And in ice cold Coca Cola, that's a winning combo. No matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going.

[Host/Interviewer]

Hey, what up, y'?

[Karlous Miller]

All?

[DJ Envy]

It's DJ Envy.

[Host/Interviewer]

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[Karlous Miller]

Hey, audiobook lovers.

[DJ Envy]

This week on the podcast I'm sitting down with musician, producer and walking encyclopedia Questlove. We're talking about Mark Ronson's memoir, Night how to be a DJ in 90s New York City.

[Karlous Miller]

All right, like we talked about before.

[DJ Envy]

Mark Ronson found sanctuary in the DJ booth.

[Karlous Miller]

What's a tool or piece of equipment.

[Questlove]

In the studio or on stage that.

[DJ Envy]

Gives you the most control.

[DC Young Fly]

So I have two microphones on stage. We have the microphone that you hear as the audience. Then we have a second microphone in which we communicate with each other.

[DJ Envy]

Other.

[DC Young Fly]

I feel like that second microphone kind of saved all of our friendships. No, no band likes each other after 20 years or 25 years. Like the Beatles broke up in seven and a half years and we're going on 35.

[Questlove]

Listen to HearSay, the Audible and iHeart audiobook club on the iHeartradio app or.

[DC Young Fly]

Wherever you get your podcast.

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[DJ Envy]

It seemed like the, the immoral is becoming the. The new norm now. And it's like the old norm is becoming weird or strange. You see what I'm saying? But I think comedy still has that. That effect. Like, you have to be honest. No matter, you know what, it gives us a better feeling because now it's 10 tense. It tense. Everybody will be like, well, we can't say that. You'd be like, why, who gonna get mad?

[Chico Bean]

The fake real people said earlier, you can't. They can't say.

[DJ Envy]

They can't.

[Chico Bean]

When you, when you under somebody, you work for somebody and you got interests and you got stuff to lose. The only way you keeping it is by keeping this job. You do kind of have to filter yourself. There's a lot of things that can't be said and a lot of people.

[DC Young Fly]

Who can't say, corporate complacency, that's what that is. You know, you get that corporate money, you get them corporate people behind you got to be complacent with the money because once they what you can and can't say, that's your. That's what it is.

[DJ Envy]

Cuz 9 times out of 10 you talking about them anyway. Yeah, I think it's because.

[Karlous Miller]

I honestly think it's because people can't fight. I think that too.

[DJ Envy]

And I know, motherfucker, I ain't finna walk up on me. You not getting between three Feet saying, none of that shit you just said.

[Karlous Miller]

A lot of times people think it's corporate. It's like, no, he just don't want no problems. He just don't want no problem.

[Host/Interviewer]

I was gonna ask, does success feel better when a lot of people doubted all of y', all, right? When they doubted you at first, I remember when you first came out, they was like, we don't understand what he's saying.

[DJ Envy]

This, that, and that show for show.

[Karlous Miller]

I remember that shit when he was on MTV on Uncommon Sense was like, we don't even understand what he's saying.

[DJ Envy]

Nick said that at the audition, he was like, I don't know what you said, but it's funny. I was like, thank you.

[Host/Interviewer]

You know?

[DJ Envy]

Cause after this, I'm back to selling crack.

[Host/Interviewer]

Does success feel better when they people are doubted so much?

[Chico Bean]

Does it feel better?

[DJ Envy]

I wouldn't say it feel better. I think the proving people wrong part just feel good. You know what I'm saying? Because I think. I think everybody in here can contest. You always want support. You don't never want to just grow up and be like, damn, why you don't see the good in me? You see what I'm saying? Like, I ain't never no bad person. It just. When you prove people wrong and he be like, that feeling is kind of just like. You know what I'm saying? It just. It feels great. But I don't think the doubting part. You know what I mean?

[DC Young Fly]

I mean, I think it feel better.

[Chico Bean]

But I always show love because I don't never want to be somebody's reason. You know what I'm saying? When somebody be like, yeah, I tried to play my music for Lowe's, and then. Then he on me. And then that motivated me to go back, and now I got these hits.

[DC Young Fly]

Like, the teacher that told you you weren't gonna never. Like, every rapper got that teacher that told them they wasn't gonna be shit when they was in school.

[Chico Bean]

That's a lot. Them teachers don't be telling them students that that lady asked that boy to read out loud. He got nervous in front of the class and messed up. And then it hurt his feelings.

[DC Young Fly]

But I think success is subjective, you know what I mean? Everybody's definition of what success is is different. But I know for us, like, we done beat the game so many times in comparison to what we were supposed to be, so you can't really look at it from what people think you supposed to have, you know what I'm saying? Like, I think it feels Good just to know that the trajectory of what brothers like us were supposed to be, for us to be so many light years away from that and ahead of that, that's success. So it's really nothing anybody can say to make you feel bad when you beat the game the way that we have and we keep doing it.

[Chico Bean]

You gotta get that out the way early, bro. Wait. Once you get to a certain level of your career, you can't be focused.

[DJ Envy]

On what people think.

[Chico Bean]

Don't like you, don't love you. Who get on your page and call you ugly, because those not the people who put you in the position that you in anyway. Show you get what I'm saying. Like, we unders. That's why we call our fans. The 85% is not. The 100 is because everybody ain't gonna never like it, no matter how good it is or. You know what I mean? Nobody gonna always support what the greatness, or they gonna. They want to see you on that platform. It's some people who hope we fall out.

[DJ Envy]

I'm just saying, the longevity. Right now, we just worrying about longevity now.

[Karlous Miller]

How long can we do easy for y', all, though. Cause y'.

[Chico Bean]

All.

[Karlous Miller]

Y'. All. Y' all got y' all own lane. Like, there's literally nobody in y' all lane. There's nobody doing what it is that y' all do.

[Chico Bean]

Do you understand? The lane started as a little path that we cut absolutely behind the real path, and then we came through with some dirt for sure. Then we came behind it with a little gravel. Now we coming through.

[DC Young Fly]

It was concrete.

[Karlous Miller]

When you. When you launched the POD podcast and you say you don't want to get Chico, I want to get DC to do the podcast, did you see this turning into the. The empire it's become?

[Chico Bean]

Yeah. That's why if you go back to the early episode when it was just us in the studio with me and Chico and DC, and then we always would say, hey, man, this who the podcast for? This for the podcast. Who this podcast right here is for white women with black kids who don't know how to do their hair or, you know, this. This for everybody who ever had to use Vaseline as grease. You feel me?

[DJ Envy]

Sure.

[DC Young Fly]

For sure.

[Chico Bean]

So that. That's why we. That's how we did that. So, yeah, I always felt like. I still feel like this just the beginning. Like, we ain't did half the stuff that we know we're about to do. We got some big stuff coming up.

[DC Young Fly]

I tell you who the podcast not for who got to get put to sleep to get their prostate check.

[DJ Envy]

Dam. Who got to put sleep?

[Chico Bean]

He did.

[DC Young Fly]

He had to get.

[DJ Envy]

You had to go. You had to go to sleep game. You couldn't watch the game. What happened? You were like, you know what? That knocked me out, man. Before you put your finger back there.

[Karlous Miller]

That's not even how it go.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah, I don't know about colonoscopy.

[DJ Envy]

Colon. Ain't that the.

[Host/Interviewer]

No, the finger is the prostate.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, okay.

[Karlous Miller]

And that lasts three seconds.

[Host/Interviewer]

How many times you got your prostate check?

[DJ Envy]

He like it.

[Karlous Miller]

He go every week.

[DJ Envy]

That's. He went for a vasectomy. They was like, turn around time.

[Karlous Miller]

I got it.

[Chico Bean]

You got a vasectomy?

[Karlous Miller]

I was. I went for the consultation.

[Host/Interviewer]

And what they do when you got there?

[Karlous Miller]

They turned to a prostate exam. So I ain't go back.

[DJ Envy]

Oh, you went to go get something clip and you were like, you know what?

[Karlous Miller]

No, I went for the consultation. And, you know, after they look at your and all that, and the guy was just like, yo, what?

[DC Young Fly]

You had to get butt naked? What time?

[Chico Bean]

They take your whole second, stretch it, then put a flashlight up to it. I don't think they want to see through it.

[Karlous Miller]

I think they. I know.

[Host/Interviewer]

They turned you around.

[Karlous Miller]

Had nothing to do. He asked me a question, and then when he asked me, I think started hitting people to ask them. I'm like, man, is this supposed to turn into a prostate exam?

[DC Young Fly]

Man, when are y' all having these conversations?

[DJ Envy]

Roll on the. In the school, man, they used to put it on the light. On the light.

[Chico Bean]

The projector.

[DJ Envy]

The projector. They put the ball on the projector.

[Karlous Miller]

Yo.

[DC Young Fly]

Yeah, we gonna need to check your prostate. So you got something going on.

[Host/Interviewer]

So they checked his prostate during that exam, during a consultation. I've never heard of that in my life.

[DJ Envy]

Me either. Not going to get the full procedure.

[Chico Bean]

What made you want to get real doctors, man?

[DC Young Fly]

What made you want to. Want to get. You already had all the kids and all that.

[Karlous Miller]

Like, your wife wanted me to get one. She ain't want no more kids.

[DC Young Fly]

Oh, got you.

[DJ Envy]

She making you just cut your man.

[Karlous Miller]

I haven't done it yet, though.

[Chico Bean]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Nah, be the man. Be the man of the household. Stop being a bitch, man. What the hell wrong with you? Mama come tell you get crazy.

[DC Young Fly]

Tie your nuts down.

[DJ Envy]

Cut your nuts off.

[DC Young Fly]

Anybody got time for this? You a poodle.

[DJ Envy]

What's the difference?

[Host/Interviewer]

What's the difference between the prostate and the colonoscopy?

[DJ Envy]

Colonoscopy, Colonoscopy.

[Host/Interviewer]

They put you to sleep and they Put a camera up your ass to make sure everything that's right.

[DJ Envy]

That damn near the same other one.

[DC Young Fly]

Put a finger up your ass.

[Karlous Miller]

Colon cancer. To make.

[Host/Interviewer]

Make sure things.

[DC Young Fly]

All right.

[DJ Envy]

And that's crazy, cuz a lot of men have to go through that. You going, I'm nervous.

[Karlous Miller]

Yeah, but you going, though.

[DJ Envy]

I don't even like the doodoo.

[Karlous Miller]

Why you don't like the doodle?

[DJ Envy]

Cause I ain't got time to be going back. I'm like, man, I wish I could just pull my pants right back up.

[DC Young Fly]

Oh, my God.

[Karlous Miller]

Funny as I don't even like to do. Imagine wiping your ass and pause yourself.

[DJ Envy]

I can't do it.

[Karlous Miller]

Damn.

[DJ Envy]

D.C. yo, what is it like watching the Poor Minds podcast, man? Beautiful. That's amazing.

[DC Young Fly]

Great.

[Karlous Miller]

Beautiful.

[DJ Envy]

Just saying, first of all, just seeing black women flourish. Let's just. Let's just take a pause for that.

[DC Young Fly]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Without question. Just black women flourish and. And having kings behind them, that's. You know what I'm saying? That's supporting. And don't look at them as sexual. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, this is a family vibe. You dig what I'm saying? Like, I mean, we ain't got time for all that. Like, sometimes, man, we have to understand that we need to have relationships with women without being sexual.

[DC Young Fly]

Creating a safe space, especially as black men. Creating a safe space.

[DJ Envy]

And for them, too, to come and.

[DC Young Fly]

Be secure without having to feel like they subjected to all of the things that come with the stigmas of being a woman, especially a black woman in this industry, you know what I mean? We always try to make sure that our presence makes our women feel comfortable and safe, that they can be themselves and not have to worry about getting judged or, you know, being looked at as objects, you know what I'm saying? And be able to really project their talents out the right way. And that's something that we find really important because talking to our uncle and everything, like, she, you know, she'll let us know that, you know, the fights that she. We've been around her for years, like, and she's had to push through so much just because of the type of person that she is, and she ain't going for shit, you know what I'm saying? So that makes it very difficult for black women in this industry. So we want to create an environment where we, you know, you don't have to worry about none of that coming over here. Whatever it is you do, that's what we looking at you to do. Nothing else.

[Chico Bean]

They just as dope as they ever were. Like, they didn't have to get dope. Like, I went and did the podcast with them a long time ago at. At Dre's house. They were just in the living room just, you know, sipping wine, talking, and I was like, y' all got something. And I know that y' all some attractive women. People gonna want to hear y' all opinion on certain stuff. And just to see where they took it is crazy.

[Host/Interviewer]

That's dope.

[Karlous Miller]

I just pulled mine's nab, too.

[Chico Bean]

Got that money back. Everybody thing about we said the family environment, bro, we want to be around talent that we respect because we know that these people have something different than just. You know what I mean? Than just being our friends. We respect the talent that they have. We'd love to see Money Bag go on stage or Clayton English get to talking, you know, deep conspiracy theories and then, you know, broken play and poor mind. So it's like, these are the things that we want around us. People that we can have fun with, people that we can kick. And we know once they can get our attention because we kind of tough critics, we know that the mass is gonna mess with it.

[Karlous Miller]

Do y' all think cancel culture. Cancel culture lost its power or.

[Chico Bean]

They never have that don't nobody get canceled.

[DJ Envy]

Let me tell you something. Ain't no such thing as cancel culture. Especially when God put you on. When God put you on, can't no people stand outside the building and be like, shut them off. Excuse me, I will push you across the street. You dig what I'm saying? Like, you can'. Close the door that God opened. Especially because you got mad at something that. What? Cause you don't understand.

[DC Young Fly]

I think the current climate of the country doesn't breed cancel culture. You know, you look at who the president is, you know what I mean? It ain't going down like that no more. I think the social norm of what is acceptable and not acceptable change with the administration. So it's a lot more things that you can say and do now because the powers that be aren't gonna chastise you for that. So I think that trickles down. I don't think it's the same no more. Like, five, six years ago, you couldn't say nothing. You know, you done been canceled more than anybody on in the country. So now I just think that the. The way that the world is set up now is no way for you to be able to tell somebody what they can and can't say. You know, as long as you're not doing it maliciously.

[Chico Bean]

They should keep the council culture, but it shouldn't just apply to like social media and like celebrities and entertainers. They should start canceling the people who ruining the country.

[DC Young Fly]

Yeah, right.

[Chico Bean]

For sure.

[Karlous Miller]

That ain't gonna happen.

[DJ Envy]

They should because those are the people that's in control of the council culture, coach.

[Chico Bean]

Exactly.

[Karlous Miller]

And Carlos, you got a college hill season. What's it? I don't know what season it is. You coming back for another season?

[Chico Bean]

Just not another season. I did the season as a season three.

[Karlous Miller]

Oh, so you already shot all that?

[Chico Bean]

Yeah, we shot it. They just.

[Karlous Miller]

Oh, I just saw a new commercial.

[DC Young Fly]

Way to let a know you ain't watching what we got going on.

[Karlous Miller]

True.

[DC Young Fly]

God damn Sl I asked this man bought some that last year.

[DJ Envy]

Know the man going to get it cold and check he ain't said none of that.

[Karlous Miller]

Speaking of that, I'm just randomly on Hulu like two days ago, maybe three over the weekend. I'm like, Chico being LOL live. Yeah, Chico did that Instagram page. I'm like, talk. I missed this.

[DC Young Fly]

Yeah, I don't know how you missed it. You don't give a.

[DJ Envy]

That's how you miss it, man.

[DC Young Fly]

You don't give a. Yeah, I did, man.

[Karlous Miller]

It was.

[DC Young Fly]

I shot it last year with lol, man. And it's dope. You know, I did did it out in Vegas and you know, it's just an introduction to what people who know me and know what I do have already been accustomed to. So it's just introducing yourself to a new audience and it's fun to do. Like, we've all done those type of things where people. That's the beauty of what we do. We've been doing this for so long, but there are so many people that still get introduced to us every day. Every single day. So you never in a position where everybody knows you. Most people still don't know who you are no matter what you've done. So. So that's just another opportunity for me to be able to put my talents out in front of the world. And I'm proud of it, man. It was a dope opportunity. And shout out to Kevin Hart and laugh out loud. And everybody that gave me that shot.

[Chico Bean]

Called me before he did it. He was like, what you think? I was like, bro, you better do that.

[DC Young Fly]

Yeah, for sure.

[Chico Bean]

Because it's a great platform. Kevin Hart, one of the biggest comedians that there ever was. For him to say, hey, I got something for you. I want to share my audience and put you on this Platform, shoot a special. It ain't even got to be an hour. Just to let the people know. Know that you dope and you wanted them. Once he gave me the opportunity to do it when he first launched it, I got to be into, like, the first set, and that first did it, and it was. It was dope. And I still see those clips like it's. They shot it dope. And it's just one of those things that can live forever.

[DC Young Fly]

Yeah, that's really.

[Host/Interviewer]

And I'm gonna see you during cousins Festival in the next couple.

[DC Young Fly]

Oh, yes, yes, yes. The cousins festival, man. Oh, Jack, you coming? Jazz. Oh, it's fun, man. It's dope, man. It's push a T. And them in Virginia do it. It's a festival. Where they got an outdoor festival, then they got an indoor festival. That's a concert. So they got Jeezy this year. T Pain.

[Chico Bean]

What day is it?

[DC Young Fly]

August 30th. Yes, August 30th. Yeah, come through, man. It's dope. We did it last year, you know, and DJ Envy was outside. They got the DJ sets.

[DJ Envy]

DJ Envy?

[DC Young Fly]

Yeah, all of that. DJ Envy, all of that.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah.

[DC Young Fly]

Two grown men wiping his forehead during the scene that it was just random, just coming up, doing like this to his forehead. DJ Envy, they pull his hat back and wipe his forehead, and then he go back to DJing.

[Chico Bean]

He was DJing playing was.

[DJ Envy]

No.

[Questlove]

Yeah.

[DC Young Fly]

Then out of nowhere, you push it. Yeah. N. For real. He was playing, and all of a sudden you just heard, follow me. I'm like, why don't you follow me?

[DJ Envy]

Who this is in the arm? DJ Envy. DJ Envy.

[Commercial Voice]

Thank you.

[DC Young Fly]

Yeah, but that's gonna be fun, man. It's gonna be dope. You know what I mean? So.

[Karlous Miller]

And shout out to DC too, man. Man, you had three outfit changes at the beach, man.

[DC Young Fly]

Listen, let me tell you something, man.

[Karlous Miller]

Come on.

[DC Young Fly]

My man was the best dressed at the beach. Straight up.

[Karlous Miller]

Hey, boy.

[Chico Bean]

Hey.

[DJ Envy]

That's all to come for you.

[DC Young Fly]

Hey, man, that would be the best. No, no, seriously, man. I was watching them suits.

[DJ Envy]

I was like, look at my nigga, man. Now, let me tell you something. Clothes might not have been the best dress, but when it come to suits, my daddy taught me well. He said, listen, man, you might not gonna have the Jordans and all that shit, but I'm gonna show you what tailored suits. I've been getting tired, gotta coordinate. I've been getting tailored since I was a youngin, you know what I'm saying? With the vest before, it was cool. To have a vest in between the suit. All that used to be country at one point in time. So it was just like, when you get into these, you know what I'm saying, these certain levels of your career, you want to show people. You know what I'm saying? Growth. You want to show people like this where you belong. You want to show people like, all right, this is how you do it. Because hood you got. We gotta look. Yeah, I'm from the hood. We got a certain look. But I'm like, guess what, man? We could get clean.

[DC Young Fly]

Dynamic.

[Commercial Voice]

It's all about.

[DJ Envy]

All about being diverse, man. Got to be clean. And that's my element right there. And I was like, you know what? It's time for me to show the foe how you really do this. So every time I. If you see my name on any red carpet, you better come with it, because your boy is coming. And I got one of the best stylists in the world shout out to Mo. She go crazy. She black. Really good.

[Karlous Miller]

DC did it the right way, too. When you talk about that, because you've been. You know, you've been living out loud forever level. So you went from what that mean.

[DC Young Fly]

What. What?

[Chico Bean]

I don't like how you said that.

[Karlous Miller]

Living out loud, man. Living his life out loud. People saw him grow up on social.

[DC Young Fly]

Now that you think about it, yeah, that don't sound right.

[Chico Bean]

He was doing something else.

[Karlous Miller]

But people saw it go from the fuck you mean? To being clean at BET Award, you.

[DJ Envy]

Know, I mean, you know, it come from just growth. Just growth, man. I feel like everybody just have to grow. Every. Every step that your career takes, understand your purpose and understand where you at. You know what I'm saying? Like, yes. You probably never saw yourself doing this, but once you came, you understood, like, you know what? There's a lane for me. Let me grow here. Let me understand. Let me make my mark. And when other people see your talent, your potential, you know what I'm saying, even if you ain't already quite got it just yet, they still see it's something there. Just like you said, we just got started.

[Host/Interviewer]

So guess what?

[DJ Envy]

They're saying there's something there. We're still growing, and we've been doing it for 10 years, and we're not at the same level.

[Chico Bean]

And, you know, they say it take 10 years to be an overnight success.

[Karlous Miller]

That's a fact. So my last question. What does legacy look like to y'?

[DJ Envy]

All?

[Chico Bean]

Is it money?

[Karlous Miller]

Last question.

[DJ Envy]

Goddamn, man. I'm damn wrong.

[Host/Interviewer]

You got a prostate exam in It a little bit.

[Karlous Miller]

Shut up. I'm actually going to feed the home. But is it money? Is it freedom? Is it respect?

[DC Young Fly]

For me, it's the picture over the fireplace. Meaning that you always say that, you know. Cause I look at life from a different vantage point. I've lost so many people. I know that it's over with for everybody. One day, one day will be your last day on this planet with everybody that you love. Where do you leave? You know what I mean? All of this ain't for me, you know, it's for the people that's gonna come after me. Like I said, I done beat the game so many times over. For me it's just about leaving a legacy that, that is going to last beyond my lifetime. You know what I mean? That's what real wealth is to me. Being able to leave something for your people, to not have to work anywhere near as hard as you work to get whatever it is that you received in life. So that's what it's about for me, just being able to create something that's going to last long after I'm gone.

[Chico Bean]

Yeah, well, I want to have that legacy where you leave a bunch of bread and change the whole family history.

[DC Young Fly]

Yeah.

[Chico Bean]

All right. Like, you know, when your granddaughter pulling up at college and like, you know, my granddad had that bag, that's. That's my stuff.

[Karlous Miller]

Generational blessings.

[DC Young Fly]

That's what I mean.

[Chico Bean]

Keep it going. And I want the family to have the education and the financial knowledge to take whatever I do and then flip that.

[Host/Interviewer]

That's right.

[Chico Bean]

Then flip that again and then open some business. Then put our family name on some buildings and buy some houses and some property and you know, get a little nephew or something that's in Congress. I'm trying to change the whole everything.

[DC Young Fly]

Yeah.

[DJ Envy]

About you, D.C. i mean, just to embark on everything they said, you know what I mean? It's kind of like the same, you feel me? And also have a level of sanity with dealing with everybody problems because figuring out who gonna be next in the family is kinda hard to decipher. Cause this is a big job and it's a big. You know what I'm saying? But trying to instill those morals into them and understand that it's generation that it's family that's hard trying to do that when a family that's broken, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, dang, what does it look like after me? How long will it last? So I feel like we work so hard just so we Give our family time to figure it out amongst each other. Because if you didn't break it or if somebody broke it before you, then you kind of, like, tapped into it to understand what it was. So you trying to figure out, do you even know what this is like? You just looking at me on tv? Am I just funny? This ain't about me being funny. Do you even know what God done blessed us with? Do you see it? Oh, I could just go buy your car. Oh, I could just help you out with something right now. That ain't it. What happens if something happen to me tomorrow? Because we got it. But do you know what to do with it?

[Chico Bean]

Put something with something.

[DJ Envy]

Gotta put something with something. See what I'm saying? So just trying to instill those morals into the family is what I'm kind of like, real big on.

[Chico Bean]

That's right.

[DC Young Fly]

Hey, man, quick question for y'.

[Chico Bean]

All.

[DC Young Fly]

Who painted Styles P as Orlando Brown?

[Host/Interviewer]

You know, that's Darnell Rollins, too, right there.

[DC Young Fly]

Where the one that look like?

[DJ Envy]

I think that's.

[DC Young Fly]

No, that's Donnell Rollins.

[Host/Interviewer]

Yeah, that's lotion in his hand.

[Karlous Miller]

Well, that's Ashley, Larry.

[DJ Envy]

Ashley, Larry.

[DC Young Fly]

Yeah, we in there. We definitely look like us. But that's Orlando Brown. That ain't Stiles P right there.

[Karlous Miller]

Y' all rem. Y' all was looking at in that picture.

[DC Young Fly]

Something happened. My man from South Africa.

[Karlous Miller]

He said he look like a miracle.

[Commercial Voice]

Yeah.

[DC Young Fly]

Jesus Christ. 85 South Show.

[DJ Envy]

We appreciate you.

[Chico Bean]

Hold up. We got two things to announce. Okay, okay. This breaking.

[DJ Envy]

Come on, man.

[Chico Bean]

Bro, we just got the movie deal with Kevin Hart.

[DJ Envy]

Yes, we did. Spin the block.

[Chico Bean]

Spin the block.

[DC Young Fly]

85 South show dot com.

[Chico Bean]

Or you can go to bmn dot com.

[DC Young Fly]

Yeah, you know what I mean? These are tour partners right here. Blake and. And, you know, I mean.

[DJ Envy]

Casting for this dead end.

[Chico Bean]

What you mean?

[DJ Envy]

Dad's talk.

[Host/Interviewer]

That talk.

[DJ Envy]

I'm talking about the 85 South.

[DC Young Fly]

The.

[DJ Envy]

The Dead End. The movie.

[Chico Bean]

The movie.

[DJ Envy]

Y' all casting for it or.

[DC Young Fly]

Yes. Come on, man. You don't have to audition.

[Chico Bean]

Come on.

[DJ Envy]

That's what white people do when they don't believe in you.

[DC Young Fly]

They know what it is.

[Chico Bean]

We know what you can do.

[Karlous Miller]

We know what it is.

[DJ Envy]

I got a part for Jess.

[DC Young Fly]

Absolutely everything.

[DJ Envy]

Whatever.

[DC Young Fly]

You know what I mean?

[DJ Envy]

We just got it. We don't even know how it's going.

[DC Young Fly]

Oh, sorry.

[DJ Envy]

Damn.

[DC Young Fly]

They didn't just handed me the. The. The date. So we. We starting off in Detroit. What up, Doe? Detroit, September 6th. We in Detroit. The 7th. Indianapolis. Then we in Columbia, Greensboro, Philly, Fairfax, Memphis, Nashville. I mean, Dallas, Houston, Hampton, Charlotte, Birmingham, New Orleans, Chicago, Cincinnati and Atlanta.

[Chico Bean]

You need somebody who graduated college on your team for sure.

[Karlous Miller]

Money, money, money. What's the website?

[DC Young Fly]

Hey, man, I don't like the way you just left.

[DJ Envy]

Come on.

[Chico Bean]

85Southshow.Com channel 85 on the App Store. You can go to bmanshows.com and get tickets. You can hit the Instagram page. You can get tickets off the app app. You can hit dc dms. He getting away.

[DJ Envy]

Wait a minute.

[DC Young Fly]

That's what I'm saying.

[DJ Envy]

Concert four days in a row in Atlanta. Sh was down Friday, Saturday, Sunday and.

[Chico Bean]

The Monday who the hell do show Beyonce concert. A lot of people bought outfits for that concert and they don't have nowhere else to wear them. Wear them to the 85.

[DC Young Fly]

Bring your fans and all that.

[DJ Envy]

And for those who saying, why we ain't coming to this city? We coming to a city that is drivable. So get in your car and drive there.

[Chico Bean]

All right?

[DJ Envy]

We just can't come to that specific city.

[DC Young Fly]

So all the cities we're not going.

[Chico Bean]

To, we going on the second leg, right? We're going again.

[DJ Envy]

For sure.

[Karlous Miller]

For sure. I love that.

[Chico Bean]

Spin the block and then we might do one called the block was spent. Oh, let's make it hood and say the block was split. Spunt. That's one of my favorite words. That ain't a word.

[DC Young Fly]

You never heard the dope boy say that. Why spunt that money?

[Karlous Miller]

What you spent that Money on?

[DC Young Fly]

It's 85 South Show.

[DJ Envy]

You ain't gotta talk like that.

[DC Young Fly]

Talk regular, man.

[DJ Envy]

I'm sick of that. I'm getting done, man. Talk regular.

[Host/Interviewer]

It's the 85 South Show.

[Chico Bean]

Thank you.

[DC Young Fly]

It's the Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

Thank you, Steve J.

[DC Young Fly]

Envy. Let's go wake that ass up early in the morning. The Breakfast Club.

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