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Hold up. Every day I wake up.
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Wake your ass up. The Breakfast Club.
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Morning, everybody.
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It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious.
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Charlemagne, the guy.
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We are the Breakfast Club.
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Lauren laros is here as well.
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We got a special guest in the building. One of the most hustling I ever met in my life. Ladies and gentlemen.
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Kill us.
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Cameron is here, man.
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How y' all been?
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Kill.
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Good morning, everybody. How you doing? How you feeling, man? Regular, man. Good to be back. Ain't been up here in a little minute. Before we.
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Before we go anywhere, I just gotta ask one question.
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Yeah.
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Are you gonna do another project, man?
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Because you.
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You play too much.
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You.
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You rap and then you stop, then you spit, then you stop. Then somebody pisses you off and you rap. And I'm like, killer. Still got it. Just do a project, Killer.
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Like, for what? Cause he's nice.
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You're good at it.
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Nah, Pre. Now, of course, you know, you my brother. I appreciate that. But it don't be making financial sense. Like, if I'm gonna do a project, we gonna get merchandise behind it. It's gonna be a everything else. But, you know, I do the freestyles on my show and here and there. But as far as doing an actual project, it don't be making financial sense for me. Like, you see, be rapping my age. It's only a few who could really go on tour who's my age be just thinking in their brain. They're doing a lot, but they're not really doing what they think they're doing. Because when you. Like, for me, I was on tour up until 2020 when Covid hit, I was on tour. And I just didn't go back on tour after that. But every. Every tour, I had something lined up. Not just the show. It was behind it. You know what I'm saying? Can we curse? Yeah, yeah, it was behind it. But I'll keep the freestyle as far as doing the album. Albums be lasting. Like, a great album is like two weeks. You know what I'm saying? Like that. I'm talking about a great one. Last two, three weeks. The shits don't last.
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But Even like an ep, just you and me killing Murder.
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Look, look, me and Mace got some. Now, I would do that. Me and mace got, like, 19 records.
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Wow.
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But I can't put them out. Like, I. Like, I feel like my hands is tied with this. He'll get in the mood, and he'd be like, we gonna come out. Then he'd be like, nah, just wait. And it don't come out. I could play it for y' all when nobody listening. Like, the world ain't listening. But Mace is really, really nice.
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What's his invitation?
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I don't know. I can't tell you.
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All right.
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Like, he's like. He gets in the mood and we gonna do. And then you be like, we not gonna do shit. And what we got going on now is too good to even question it. You know what I'm saying? So you gotta work. Two slick talkers out there, but on some G shit. Cause y' all hear me do the freestyle shit. Mace is like, dumb nice, get busy. Not like, no, I'm talking about, you know. You ain't hear him really rapping alone. That nigga's nice. Nice. Like a real, real problem. I don't wanna say he's better than me. I wanna say that he's right underneath the paws right there.
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Now, we saw the one where he spit on it, is what it is.
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I forced him to beg, like, two months for that to happen. But. But do you know what a problem is for me? He sends me the watch. Him just stop sending me my. Because I'm getting frustrated. He do. I think he do this to tease me, to be honest with you. Okay, I'm listening to this. Listen to this. And this never comes out, but I think he does it for therapy. He makes too much other money besides what we do. Mace makes a lot of money, I think. I don't. Like. I don't want to say that, but music isn't a priority. I wish it's a priority.
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I saw you tell Memphis Bleak that Mace told you that. If you and Jewels in music or you and him even do anything that y' all put out, it has to be like a moment. Because of all those. What would that moment, if y'. All, hypothetically speaking, if it did happen, what would that moment be? Is it a offer for the Mace?
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Anything we do together. Like, Mace, like, if we get booked together, Mason moved for less than a hundred thousand. For him, Nest is being nice. Like, he just don't move. He do too much. Other to where he's like, cam, if I'm not getting 100. I don't even call him if it ain't like 200, 000. Because he doesn't. He doesn't care. Like, he really doesn't like what he got going on. He doesn't care about doing anything else. So I'll be like, yo, Mace. Yo, listen. So and so on the book us for, like, 125, 000. Like, you want to take 25? And I'm like. He's like, cam, you have to realize it's a moment when we're together. We haven't been speaking for 25 for 10 years. Why would we take that money? I'm like, mason, just a look. It's not a good look. So more of the story is he basically says, we haven't been speaking for a while, we getting older. Everything that we need to do needs to count. So kind of like when you heard me say that with Juels, same thing. Juels has sent me into a record, sent a record for me to do probably five, six months, maybe longer than that. And it was a good record, but it was like, you gotta be spectacular. We ain't do a song in 15 years. So that's kind of what you heard.
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How did you and Mace get back together? For people that don't know, because there was.
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Y' all were going back and forth for years.
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And then Gillian Wallow, right?
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Yeah, absolutely. Shout out to Gillian Wallow. He went on Gillian Wallow show to. I guess his artist was saying that Mace was stealing from him or whatever. And when he was up there, he just was like. He basically, like, shouted me out in the cool way. He's like. Cause, you know, he did a diss record, and it was kind of. It was crazy. The oracle dissing me. He's like, I didn't really want to do that to Cam. And I was like. But he said in the cool. He's like, cam's my man. Then I went on Gillian Wallow. And then we talked, and then when we spoke, we spoke, and we just kept it moving, but all because of Gillian Wallow, basically.
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Click.
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So, well, how'd the show come together from there?
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So the show actually came together. We supposed to do a tour after we got cool, me, him, and Jada. That didn't work out. And so many people were inviting me to do podcasts. Like, yo, Cam, do a podcast. When you gonna do a podcast? And I'm like, I don't really want to talk to niggas for a living. You know what I'm saying, like. Cause, like, I don't want to have to talk to nobody, but I do like sports. So I look at the phone I'm arguing with. Every time I hang the phone up, it should say two and a half hours of me arguing with a about sports. So I was like, maybe this is something I want to do. And I built a state, I've got to say, on stage. I built my own set out.
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And.
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I said, I'm gonna do ESPN Meets the Hood. So that's why we're suits on the show. But it was a professional setting. And then after that, I invited Mace on the show as a guest, and he's like, cam, what's going on? So I'm just shooting this. I said, I got a budget. I'm gonna reach this budget and see if bike pause. And he's like, you want to be partners? I'm like, after I get my money back on what I spent, we could go 50, 50. And he's like, I bet. So we did about 10 shows, and a bunch of people called. So we ended up doing, like, 30 shows and ended up getting a really good deal. But after I did, like, five shows, he's like, my fifth guest, and he's like, be partners. Because I have nobody consistent doing it anyway. So that's how I came together.
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I think y' all smoking, man. I think everything that y' all done in the media space, what it is. What it is in the talk with Flea, I think y' all smoking.
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Nah. I appreciate that. Thank you, brother. I appreciate it, man. It's all natural. It's all fun. And kind of me and Mace relationship is, like, just picking up because the. The we be talking about just regular high school or after high school. You gotta realize a lot of our public life was publicized. So Mace got his deal at 21. I got my deal at 21. So a lot of y' all seen music wise has been since we 21 years old, so.
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And I also say, you know, if.
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You whatever, but thank you for that.
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If what you build only benefits you, it's not big enough. I love the way that you've empowered somebody like Treasure. You know what I'm saying? And I know you got, like, a whole production team there, and she has.
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Like, a network or something of her own where she can develop content.
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Well, she has her own show. It's called Check out the Stat. And whatever she wants to do, she's able to do. We don't hold anybody up. We don't stop nobody from doing what they could do what they want to do. She's big in the streaming world, you know, I'm not really twitching and all that. Like, she's big with Kasanai and her boyfriend's a streamer and everything else. But she just turned 24 years old, so it's really dope to have a dynamic of her being on the show. Cause we tease her about shit she don't know, and then she'll turn it back on us. Like, y' all niggas don't know this shit. So it's good. Different generations being on the show. But definitely she has a bunch of shit that she has going on. But her show is called Check out.
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The Step in the Moment with her, you and Adrienne Bronner. That went viral. That, like, we had a conversation about it up here. And when I watched the moment, I was so appreciative of it. And I'm not her, just because I know what it's like to not be able to, like, kind of say things or whatever. And when that went super viral, people were reacting to it. How did you feel watching it? Because it was a natural thing for you to just do.
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I don't really watch the shows, to be honest with you. We do them shits five days a week, and I keep it moving. So I didn't really. I never watched it. But it's in the moment. You're accent, like in the moment. See a lot of things y' all didn't see. We. We don't. We don't go live. We pre record. So I stopped the show like six, seven times and asked him to stop. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't like just once. It was like six, seven times. Because I know Adrian Bron. I have a relationship with him. So I kept asking him to stop, and he was like, oh, my bad. More my bad, bro. And he wouldn't stop. And her boyfriend was there too. So I was like, yo, bro, you gotta chill. And he's like, not Kim. My bad, my bad. And he wouldn't chill. So basically I just asked him to leave. You know, I didn't really want. It was some of the parts that I wish would have got edited to where when I came back and I was kind of frustrated and I said some shit about him afterwards, which I didn't want to air, but that was just pure frustration. But in the moment, that's like my little sister, you know what I'm saying? So at the end of the day, if you keep doing that shit, you're disrespecting her. And then if I ask you to stop, you disrespecting me. So now you're really in my house, and you disrespected me. So I paid him for his time and asked him to leave. Like I said, it ain't like he's a stranger. I know who he is. And we got some mutual friends as well, so. But in the moment, it was just disrespectful because it isn't like we asked you to stop several times, and he.
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Apologized, and people were mad at you because they was like, yo, you. I guess they caught you saying something like, why you ain't saying it to his face?
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That's what I was talking about. I mean, I was saying that because when I sat back down, I was like, I hate this thing. I don't really want to repeat what I said. And he's like, basically, yo, Cam, this down the third. Why'd you say that? It was purely out of frustration. That's like saying, if y' all walk me out now and then you sit down, you don't know. I didn't sit down for the edit. And then you'd be like, yo, this. You know what I'm saying? I said a little more than that, but it's like that part should have been cut out. But it wasn't about saying unto his face. I said it to his face. I walked over to him and actually escorted him out. It wasn't about a fighting situation for me. And I like that. Just more of a. I think he was a little intoxicated and he just needed to be escorted up.
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He held himself accountable.
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He apologies. Yes, my guy.
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So any artist that comes up there that talks to your co host, you gonna pay him out.
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The thing about it is, I'm not going if Terence Crawford's there. I'm not walking up on Terence Crawford. I'm not walking up to Kobe. But it's security there. It ain't just us in there. It's other people in the. That's outside the studio. So it isn't just randomly me just putting out, but I feel me and him was cool enough for me to do that.
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And I'm glad you bought that Pink Horsepower.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Because I'm. I can't order it discreetly, I don't think so. I'm glad that you bought it up here. Yo, what is it? I thought it was edibles. Like, what is it? She thought to take one.
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She could take one for a man time. So basically. And they deliver, too, by the way you call it.
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Okay.
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This crazy told me that you didn't pick on you. Talk about the Honey Pack. Back in the day, the Honey Pack.
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Probably give you a headache.
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They still get no headache.
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Yeah, this is all natural Ambassador. Yeah, it's all naturalist. From Africa.
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From Africa.
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I'm gonna show you the video, like, so you can see exactly where I went to get it. Because the thing about it is this. So they have this in the city, different places. But what happens is, I know people in Senegal, and it comes in on a boat. And what happens is when it's on the boat, they water it down. They double or double down, so it's more when it gets here. And basically, I keep a on the boat for two months to watch our stocks so that we make sure we have the highest potency of it. But it's all natural. Leaves, roots, trees. And we just got the best product. It works. We've been doing this for four years. Probably made close to $10 million on it.
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Wow.
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And it's been really, really good. My man Sugar Dug A basically runs everything right now with that shit. But it's been really well. And the thing about. We have reoccurring customers. Niggas coming back. I guarantee it. Like Frank Lucas said, nigga, I guarantee it, nigga. Like, it's really gonna work. But just ask me how long. How long does it take? I said 10 minutes. I said I wouldn't go. Do that and go to the mall, hang out with your mom. Nothing else. Take that when it's time to go in. It works really fast.
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It don't make your heartbeat crazy.
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Nah, everything is good. You see Emmy? No natural, never said nothing.
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That's not a conversation we gonna have.
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Keep trying to be honest with you. I don't want to say too much because. But it has good health effect as well.
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Yeah. I mean, I see ginger, ginseng, turmeric, natural flavor.
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Wait till after, man.
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Leave it up there.
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I know how y' all do. I go ahead and grab mine.
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Yeah, and take one per day, cuz. Some.
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So drink the whole day. Just leave me with one.
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Take one for the whole day. You said they deliver now. Order you something. Order something.
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So it's like a shot. You take the shot.
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Take a shot, man. Yeah, well, you should. That's why I got six kids.
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Kim, what conversations were you having where you were like, you know what, cuz? This what I'm bringing next with the pink horsepower. Like, who was your market study for this situation?
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The pandemic that's when I saw that. Like I said, it was on tour. Nobody was doing but at home. And like I said, I knew somebody from Senegal who actually brings it in. And he was giving me some, and he's like, cam, this is watered down. If you want the highest potency, we could go to Senegal. And I'm like, you serious? I'm like, so I took the trip and I seen how is manipulating it on the boat and how. Because it's a lot of places who say I got the shot. Or they'd be like, I got Cam. What? I got Cam. We got the same. No, you don't. You are getting it from the. That's watering it down, bringing it over here. And we're getting the highest potency possible.
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Let me ask you, because what was your favorite viral news network moment? Was it the 60 Minutes joint? Was it the Bill O'Reilly or the CNN drinking pink horsepower?
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CNN. CNN, by far. Because first of all, like, Bill O'Reilly, I didn't know who Bill O'Reilly was. Like, I remember being in Rockefeller. And they was like, cam, do you want to go? Bill O'Reilly, he's like, big. He's on Fox. Y Y. I said, I bet. He's like, but I'm telling you, can't. He's like, one of these. This. You don't. I'm telling you, don't know. He gonna come at you. Pause. I'm like, good, let's figure it out. So I had no Idea who Bill O'Reilly was. I just went up there and just debated the like, it. I don't give a 60 minutes. I was mad high. I ain't gonna lie. I was. I was super duper high on 60 minutes. I was wild high. And pardon me, that was cool. But the CNN that just passed, they kept calling me, and I'm like, yo, I'm cool. And they was like, yo, it's gonna be a Puffs. And I'm like, puffs, questions and all that. I'm like, nah, I don't want to do it. Then they said, well, we'll talk about other things. So I was like, bet. Can we pre record it? I'm like, absolutely not. It has to be done live. So in case y' all try reneg on what y' all said, I'm gonna expose the situation. Because I told you I don't want to be up here answering a bunch of pu. And when we got up there, I said, I do want it, too. But you kept forcing the issue, I bet. Let's do it. Pink Horsepower commercial, the whole. So that's how that went. But that was my favorite one out of all.
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I know. Sales was crazy for Pink Horse.
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Crazy crazy. And to be honest with you, that's kind of how to be honest, how it kind of catapulted because sugar's running around, you know, going hand in hand. But Gilly show, sales went up 400. Then I did now, pardon me, Nori show, when I did Drink champs, first it went crazy. Then I did Gilly show, and it went crazy. And that was another reason I started the podcast. I'm like, I could shoot a commercial for this every day on my own. Matter of fact, should get some more backup history. Yeah. So hopefully the sales will be a little better after doing you guys show, man.
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Now I tell everybody, Cam is one of the pettiest people I know, right?
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Yeah.
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I said, between Cam and 50, they.
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Are the two pettiest people I've ever.
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Seen in my life.
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Trying to do better, though. No, you're not. What happened with Omar Gooden? So you trying to do better after that. See, niggas don't be knowing the backstory. So like, right, Omar Gooden, Paul, me again. Omar Gooden. I was on my show talking about B list actors. Black, black actors. No disrespect to him, but we all know his brother Cuba is the bigger star. And basically I said, Omar Gooden Jr. And he went off. He went crazy. And because I hired him before for a movie, I did like 2011, 2012 percentage. I did a movie with Queen Latifah and shot Kim. Shout out to Queen Latifah and shot him. And we hired him. So in my segment of my show, I'm like, yo, it's up for the B class black actor. Because you got to sit here and wait for somebody to call you for a part. Or if they do, who says you're going to get the part? Like just sitting around and waiting. And I was actually talking to Rich Paul and he's like, them should have came up with a network by now. All came together, you know what I'm saying? But I basically was telling y' all when telling him, saying what I'm telling y' all now, right? And I called him Omar Gooding Jr. And he just went crazy. He was like, how the am I junior when Cuba's the junior you disrespecting? You don't call a man out his name. This down the third. So I'm like, I got him on this page. I said, you can look at the dates. I said, my bad, bro. I didn't mean to offend you. No, no problem. Nah. That. Then he started doing DIs records. And I was like, his rapping wasn't bad, though.
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It wasn't that bad.
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It's all right.
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I put it on the face. I just type high. I wrote that on his comments. I'm like, yo, I don't want no smoke, bro. This is all right. This is dope. So did another one. I'm like, I bet. So I know how much you cost, bro. You know what I'm saying? So I had a mutual friend. I was like, yo, when you. I haven't used some pause in a while. How much are you booking for? He's like, when I need a movie scene, I pay him 1200. Said, but I got three. I got 3000 for the. And that's how that went because he wouldn't stop doing records. And I already said I didn't want a problem.
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So you said, I'm gonna come up.
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With a fake movie. Yeah. Fake script. So you have to proceed to Patty to do this. Yeah. But what happened is he signed the paperwork. And so let's just say I. I paid every three. I gave him $3,000 because I knew he wouldn't say no because he gets 1200. So I said 3000. His flight was 7, 800. And so let's just say I spent 5000. So once he signed the paperwork, I'm getting 10 times that for the episode. So I win. I spent 5, but I made 45 offer.
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Gotcha.
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Off of his stupidity for me telling you, I don't want no problem with you, but you won't stop. So now I'm gonna give you 5 and make 45 and this content at the same time. So you was really in the other room watching and directing. I was in another room, but I had a ring camera up around the corner at one of my cribs, watching the whole. The whole time.
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And he was trying to say that he was going to take legal action. Is that possible? Or like. Because what documents did you have him sign? Or like, whatever.
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Adam. So basically, my man, who actually they shot my man bb, one of my production companies, partners of one of my production companies. We basically had him sign everything. And what he was trying to say he's going to take legal action about, everything was cool, but the dressing room. But he didn't realize what he signed was. Once you walk in, we could use security footage, ring footage, everything that we wanted to use. Once you walked in the building, any camera we wanted to use. And what I did was he had. We gave him $1,500 up front. And when he came, I made sure the other 1500 was in tens and fives. So it looked like he got a lot of money. So when he gave him. He gave him the night. He was. I knew he would just sign anything because, you know, when it looks pores. When it look like it's a lot.
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Yeah.
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So we paid him like tens and fives, so it looked like he had 20,000 when it was just $1,500.
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I don't know why you waited so long to do the killer comedy show. And I don't know why you not on stage.
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Exactly. Nah, I just don't be bothering people. And then I'll be like, yo, leave me alone. Cause I know where I could go with it. And this what happens, basically. But, yeah, thanks for even bringing that up. We got the killer comedy show.
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It's today. Tonight.
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It's tonight at the Beacon Theater. At the Beacon Theater. Shout my man Johnny Shipes in the building. He's the one that put everything together. D Ray's gonna be there. Jay Fowl's gonna be there. Tony Rock, Corey Holcomb. Yep. Sorry. I don't know if y' all still beefing. Will Mills and Ray Ray. So Jay Farrell, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So.
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And Ferg performing.
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Fergus performing as well. Definitely y' all are all welcome to come. I don't know what you guys are doing, but y' all more than welcome to come. But we actually put that together because I did. I got a cameo in a movie. Happy Gilmore, too.
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Oh, yeah?
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Yeah. How did that come about? So, yeah, Joe Vessi, He's a comedian and writes with Adam Sandler. He's a big fan. He's the one that kind of got us in the movie. Adam Sandler is my man, too.
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Yeah.
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And he has a stand up, and he wants me to put it out. I guess he's not going through the right channels. And I'm like, johnny, like I said, we're gonna put that out. But he was like, let's just do a whole comedy show. We got with Outback they sponsored. That's how I go. And so we gonna go on tour with it. That's that easy. But shout out to Joe Vessi for even giving me the idea to want to do it.
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Oh, salute to Joe. That's my man.
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Yeah.
B
What. What made you want to get into comedy now, though? Because you always been funny, right?
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Always. I'm beyond it was Joe Vessi. Okay, I'm not even gonna say and hold you when he said he had us. So he has a stand up that's done and he just wanted to put it into my lap and say, cam, do what you could do with it. And I'm like, he's not on this show. Because paperwork kind of took a while. But it was purely when he had a standup. And I'm like, I'm gonna find a home for it. But why not put a show together after that? That's kind. It's really totally Joe Vessi. That gave me the idea to put a comedy show together, you know?
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You know, you know his dad, Peter Vessi, he's one of the best sports commentators ever.
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Hey, Joe Vessi's like a street basketball player and all that too, man. So shout out to him. That's how it came about.
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Dope.
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No more, no less. Man.
B
I gotta ask, where did the friction with you and Dame come from? How did that happen?
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I don't know. Dame like he was a manager, a.
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Partner with you at one time, right?
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Dame like. Dame did a lot for me, you know what I'm saying? Like. Like today's gonna be my last day. Dame dashing us too. Us too?
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Yeah.
C
Cuz it's annoying, you know what I'm saying? So to be honest with you. Pardon me, to be honest with you, I feel like I got set up. It felt like Dame had all this. All these problems with me and never said it and was looking like a reason to say it. I was in a terrible deal of Epic Records. I grew up with Dame and Rockefeller was up and he helped me get out that deal. And then I actually saw me to Rockefeller that helped me get my group on. Rockefeller put out a platinum album. The Diplomats was born. It was a great. It was great. And he did a lot for me. So I always attribute that not only I knew since I was like 10, 11 years old, you know what I'm saying? And when Rockefeller fell apart, he's still my man. He's on my man last year. I don't know what I'm saying. He's been my man this whole time. But to me it's like a setup. Because no matter what, so publicly I've been giving this man props for 25 years. And it hasn't been a smooth 25 years. But that's always been my friend. I've never ran to the Internet and talked about you. Whether we having good time, bad time, whatever. What I do do over the years is take breaks from you. When I say that, it's like, I didn't call in Dane for a minute. I'll call him next year. This, that, and the third. And when he started talking about me on different. On different podcasts, I'm like, bro, what is the is this about? But he was guessing. He was saying, cam is not a man. He ain't calling me this. Yo, bro, everybody's not built for your personality. I am. I just know how to take breaks from you from time to time because I know your personality now. I want to deal with it right now. But for him to go to the Internet, start talking about me, it was like, really? That's what the we doing? And when I seen that, I was like, this is crazy. He kept doing it. Kept doing different interview. Yo, Cam, this Kim that came this. And I'm like. And then he talked about the last thing was he said, I didn't promote nothing. We were supposed to go partners on with Honor up the movie. And we did an album with a track. And he said, I didn't promote it. And I finally gave feedback on why I didn't promote it. I'm like, I didn't want to be in it. You know, I'm saying no disrespect, but that's how it happened. From there, Avalanche, he just went crazy, started going, craig Kim this Kim that. Came this even point where it's like, bro, now you stretching the truth. You're lying about a few things. But that's where it all started from for me. Dissing on her up. But to me, if you wanted this, my art or my movies or my music or whatever, cool. You start getting personal and start taking mad personal. And I'm like, we know too much about each other to be doing personal. Cause this could get nasty. Because I know a lot about you, you know a lot about me. And I'm mad funny, like, I don't want to rag doll my man on the Internet, especially, like, that's. I'm not talking about. But who the is you around to come out with a passion teeth like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I would never let you do that. Cause you my man. I texted him like, yo, bro, whoever you around, they. You, they you're not around. No real. Because they would not let you come on the camera like that. And that's kind of how I started when I dishonored and just got personal. And it was to the point where I'm like, yo, listen, man, this kind of. This could get nasty. And I spoke to Daniel. I know Daniel was up here with him. Daniel cool with me too. And so he kind of mediated it. And he was like yo, this shit is not a good look for Harlem. Yada yada, yada yada yada. I was like, cool. I said listen, it was a Thursday. He said, look, I said, listen, I got something coming out tomorrow. It's already done. If you tell him, listen, this is coming out tomorrow. But I won't say nothing else about him on the Internet. Cool. He says cool. He said cool. He's still talking about me on the Internet yesterday, right now. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
B
Cam capone's on part 1517 right now.
C
Exactly. And the deal and it was like, bro, you I thought we wasn't going to talk about each other.
A
Cool.
C
That ain't no problem. But to me, to be honest with you, I tapped out when the issued a 300 million dollar lawsuit. And then he tells Daniel to tell me, yo, tell Cam to give me a million dollars and we might let it all go away. I'm like you trying to quiet distort me. Like what are you talking about? Send you a million off the 300 million. I said let's go to court.
B
A real lawsuit. It was Chad GPT. I know that signed from the Dash Group. We got one of those two.
C
Yeah, no, but it wasn't a lawsuit. We got the fact that a even that's supposed to be my man even do some like that. Like yo for a million they'll go away.
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About is forgetting everything.
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I never used to forget things. They're concerned that one, they have dementia.
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And the other one is do I have adhd?
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There is unprecedented promise with regard to cannabis and cannabinoids to sleep better, to have less pain, to have better mood and also to have better day to day life. Listen to Decoding Women's Health with Dr. Elizabeth Poynter on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you're listening. You know the shade is always shadiest right here. Season six of the podcast Reasonably Shady with Gisele Bryant and Robin Dixon is here dropping every Monday as two of the founding members of the Real Housewives Potomac. We're giving you all the laughs, drama and reality news you can handle. And you know, we don't hold back. So come be reasonable or shady with us. Each and every Monday, I was going through a walk in my neighborhood. Out of the blue, I see this huge sign next to somebody's house. Okay, the sign says, my neighbor is a Karen. No way. I died laughing. I'm like, I have to know you are lying. Humongous, y'.
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C
I'm not sending you a million dollars.
B
Well, I'm glad he didn't take your show off Revolt. Cause he could like he was your boss. Yeah, he was your boss.
A
He did.
C
That's the point like the, the the be talking about to me this like to me is semi disappointing because I looked up to him, you know what I'm saying? And I'm just to a point where I don't wish them wealth, health and success. But I can't no more because like you said in the can component all that you at a point where you say as long as your name say in the algorithm, even if it takes beefing with your man to be in the algorithm, that's where you at in life. And I'm like, I see why niggas be curving. You got to think about this. Not just artists. If you sit there and think about the artists that he helped and put on. It's phenomenal. You sit there and think about Kevin Harder, Jay Z or Kanye or myself or whoever, and nobody with you. Is it the artist or is it you? You know what I'm saying? Not only that, your day one don't with you, Daniel. Not saying Daniel is a man, but, like, real Mac, all the bigs. It's like from your hood don't with you. So I don't mean this in a bad way, because I know you're gonna take this and this will be last another three, four months for him. You know, he'll take a spin at this kid, and then I'll be seeing. Like, to me, bro, you try to defame my character to where it's like, for what? My Kim's a civilian. All right, Dane, whatever. I'm a civilian. We tried to give you a million dollars last year when you was in the News for owing $800,000. We Mace Mason, Dame don't even got a good relationship. They don't even with each other. But Mace felt bad, and he's like, kim, you want to spend 500,000? 500,000 just so we. This don't got no debt. I'm like, I don't know. I'll do it. But I don't really know if we gonna make our money back. But for the. For the sake of Dame, yeah, I'll do it. And then when the didn't go through, we suckers. Because you want to wait on YoungBoy, NBA or Drake or whatever other deal you had. We try to give you a million dollars just to clear your debt up. And you. You basically gambled yourself out waiting on more money.
B
I just got two questions.
A
Remember, he was saying that you called his son.
C
So basically, y' all probably be lost with all this that he be on. So he brought it up here. He brought it up a couple times. When he's up here, he's like, cam is running around with this named Larry, and y' all probably don't even know. Yeah, exactly. So do you even remember him saying it? Kept bringing up like. So let me give you a backstory on Larry. Larry had a grow in Vegas, where he was meeting a bunch of rappers and everything, paying everybody to promote his growth in Vegas. Dame met Nori. Pardon me? Nori introduced Dame to Larry. Like, Nori knew Larry first, and he introduced Dane. Larry was paying Dane 5,000amonth to promote his weed. Dame ain't Snoop Dogg or Wiz Khalifa to be like. But he's still giving the the bread like I hear supposed to give him 3% of coming. I don't really know about that part or whatever but anyway not only that Larry's paying you to promote his weed. Larry lives in Vegas. Not only that. Your son lived with Larry as a grown man. So boogie. His son lived with Larry for two and a half years because he wasn't with Dane. You know what I'm saying? Or they didn't have a good relationship. I don't want to say he wasn't with him. They didn't have a great relationship.
A
Right.
C
He's sitting there is like can be with Larry now. Can't be with Larry now. Larry puts up $50,000 for a movie. Dame hurt up $50,000. A supposed to put 50,000 for a movie and another put up 50,000 for movie movie supposed to be 150,000. Dame tells Larry when this lady calls allocate the money to her so she may want 12,000 now 6,000 now 7,000 now whatever. When it gets to the 50,000, he calls Damon says yo, I gave the lady the 50,000. Dame goes off of you dumbass. You a Vegas bama. So I call this a bunch of names talking about I didn't tell you to give. I didn't think this is crazy. Yeah, I didn't tell you to give her 50, 000. He's like I don't know this lady. How'd I get a number? Yada, yada yada yada. Larry hangs up on him. He calls me, said cam, I've been dealing with Dame. I deal with his insults like this the last straw. Been paying this man this promote the weed. I gave him 50, 000 for a movie. Etc. I just can't. I'm tapped out. Dame calls me after we not with Larry. I said, why not? He said, he hung up on me. That's not what real men do. Real men don't hang up on like how many times me and you argue. You never hung the phone up on me the same time I said damn, I know you. Everybody's not built for your verbal assassination or whatever the fuck you want to call your verbal assault. Everybody can't take that. You know what I'm saying?
B
Verbal fair one.
C
Yeah, there you go. You did a good job. So yeah, he's going crazy on me. Me hanging out with Larry because I feel Larry didn't do nothing wrong. That man looked like your son lived with him. He was paying you to do weed. He put up $50,000 for a movie. And because he hung up on you cuz you started insulting him about $50,000 where he allocated it to, where you want to be allocated it to. He's a Vegas bama. I can't jack that, bro. I'm not. He's a good. He's a. When we get to. When we. I stay in Vegas now before we come in big time gambler, we have to pay for no hotels comps at every hotel. Take I take my, my, my sprinters we didn't have to pay for when we went to Vegas. And because he hung up on them. Now he's not a real man, but he's trying to spin the narrative. Remember I was telling you three people doing the movie. The third person is suing Dane for the movie. Cam is hanging out with a who's suing me? I don't know this who's suing you. I know like, Larry's not suing you. He's just taking the l on the 50, 000. You know what I'm saying? He like, yo, I'll take the l. But Dane going around Kim running around with a who's suing me? I'm not running around with the suing you. Larry's not even suing you. But that's the narrative that he's pushing. So when he's talking about some me doing some son. His son called. So Larry's a. A producer on talk with flea on. On my show. Boogie Dame son called Larry asking for money recently. Asking for money. So, like, like, yo, you want to get boogie on the show? I'm like, I don't give a. He's like, we gonna give him 5,000. I said, all right, cool. You interviewing them? You in syncing interview him? I don't give a. I text Boogie for the producer for our writers. What do you want to talk about on the show? He says, his music and his movies. I have to text message. I said, cool. I give it to the writers. Two days later, Cam trying to do with my son. That nigga's foul. Da da da da da da da. How you gonna reach out to my son? Yes. Son reached out to Larry and said he was up. Larry asked the do you want to come on the show? He said, yeah, he took the deposit. He's on the deposit back. But now you spending it again to where you with my family. Yo, my. Nobody calls your son. Your son called Larry Larry accident if he wanted to come on the show. And that's the name Larry. So it's just basically what's up? I think Larry's a super cool.
B
What up, Larry?
C
Yeah, yeah. So now y' all know the back daddy name is Larry, right? And the thing is, for me, the last thing I will say about this situation with. With Larry anyways. Concerned Larry's white. My mom died of cancer two and a half years ago. I watched her do. Yeah, thank you. I appreciate it. I watched her die for a month. She was good January 8, went to hospital January 9. Says, yo, your mom got about a month and a half to live.
A
Jesus.
C
So she died. He's on this show talking about, yo, Larry need to just be worrying about his wife. Larry, wife died four days after Dame was on the show because, oh man, I was watching his wife die with the. I like she was a hospital, she was a hospice center. And she went. She didn't want to die in the hospital. She went home. And so with hospice so she could not home. So Dame is on the show. Like, yeah, this light don't need to worry. He just need to worry about his wife. This is a nice guy. This thing ain't into all this. I'm into. I'm with all this dumb. This is a cool. You know what I'm saying? You up there telling this man wife we. I'm literally watching her die every day. So I'm like, yo, bro, you really don't got no boundaries. You this mad at Larry for what? That watched your son for two years and made sure that got a roof over his head and now you mad cause he's not in a lawsuit. He paid you $5,000 a month and then you put his business out there. Who the said that the want his business out there about his dying wife.
B
That's why OG Dan told him chill out.
C
Because you know why? Daniel wife died from cancer. He watched his wife die on a deathbed from cancer. So he kind of get it. But the end of the day is you talking about, yo, you need to go watch your wife. And you don't understand what that scenario is about. And that's why I'm like, I wish you the best. My, but you don't really care, cuz she died four or five days after the interview.
B
Condolences. That's hard.
C
Yeah, that's just a backstory.
B
There's only two questions I had about the dance situation. I wasn't going to bring it up.
C
I don't give a but cuz like I said, it's done for me today. You could fight by yourself. I'm not fighting with you when you.
B
Talk about him bringing up family. I didn't understand why he brought up you having a stripper pole in a house your mother was in. But he was in there partying, having a good time. Did he tell you that he had a problem with that back then?
C
No. First of all, it was a two family home. My mother wasn't on the side with the stripper. Just to give some context of what's going on, I bought my mom my house when I first got on. She never wanted to move in the house. She's Harlem, you get what I'm saying? So that wasn't my primary house. I had a few houses still do. And she had a stroke and she was like, she's not moving to Jersey no matter what. I'm like, mom, you can't run around Harlem like this. So.
B
But that's a New York thing.
A
Most. Most.
B
My parents never live in Queens.
C
Never. Right, so. Right. So example is basically when she never moved into the house. It's a two family home. I built my studio in there at a strip club in there, all that. So I'm like, mom, the house is still there. I'm gonna put you on the other side house. It's a separate address. It's not even the same address. So my mom is hood and she, she didn't give a. You know what I'm saying? But you're acting like I had her in the bedroom next to stripper code. It's a. Another house around the corner. But no, he didn't have a problem with it. He loved it. But that's what I'm trying to tell you. He's trying to defame my character. For what reason? I have no, I have no reason why.
A
I saw people reacting to that in the comments, like talking about just how low that was, regardless of what he was trying to do. Because I think everybody knows how you were about your mom and what you went through.
C
Right? Absolutely. Well, you know what it is, is that. And people might not have seen that part because I ain't posted. And he still shouldn't have said it, but he felt the way. Because when he said that about Larry wife, I was, I was on his comments talking about he ain't one of his kids, that he found out like he had not. Boogie found out he had another kid and he took like eight paternity tests trying not to find one to make an idea.
B
So he got you all them on Playfish. God damn.
C
Yeah, but. And he was mad about it. So I was putting all that in the comments. And that's when he did about that. So I. Like, I said it was low. I was low, but I was low what he did. But I. I get why he did it. You know what I'm saying? Because I was starting spilling a lot of business. That's why I said could get messy about his girl. I was in the comments we see. I was all in there, like, bro, I know too much. I don't really want to do it. It's more now I just won't say. You know what I'm saying? So another thing we said viral was.
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The Big L thing.
C
Yeah. Like, bro, Big L didn't even like you. My biggest from my block, right? And big old brother's brother. He had a couple brothers, but his brother Big Lee kind of ran my block. Him and somebody else, a couple other people. And they hated Dame. They hated Dame to the point where when Big Lee came home, that's big old brother. They ran down. He ran down on Damon, menacing, like, you owe me a favor. And Dame, I took him. I was like, yeah, I'm gonna do the favor for him. I'm like, yo, this is polite extortion. I wouldn't do the favorite. He ended up dying. Big L's brother, Big Lee, but he did not fuck with you. And to the point where you're even lying that me, you, and Big L was in a car somewhere. It's just. It's stupid. Like, you know what I'm saying? Okay.
B
Why does he lie so much?
C
I don't. I didn't. I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know. And you know what I'm saying, it's to the point where it's like, bro, when that nigga said whatever I need to do to stay in the algorithm, you just knew it was over from there. Yeah, like, my man sent me a clip to where it's like, yo, you know, not saying me and Jim don't have the best relationship now, and I wish him the best as well. But it's to the point where he's like, yeah, I ain't gonna lie. Jim wore pink first. Yo, you said that three days ago or two days ago. I'm like, what does that have to do with everything you got going on, bro, this is what I'm trying to say. He's trying to throw me under the bus as much as he can. To the point where you'll say and do anything. What I'm taking from it, and I'm just not with it no more.
B
Another thing I didn't understand when he said you went on the radio to announce you was VP of Rockefeller, he said you did that on purpose. He thinks you did that on purpose because you knew it would cause problems at the label. Correct me if I'm wrong. I thought. I remember you being on the air and you was on the phone. I thought you was on the phone with Dame and you said Dame gave us the green light. That's what I remember.
C
I don't remember exactly how it happened. I ain't gonna say and lie to you. But you ain't have a problem with it all these years. Now all of a sudden you got a problem with it. Like my. I understand may of course friction later. But why the would I want to damage some that's going good, you know what I'm saying? Like it's probably the height of my music career at that particular time. Why the would I want to damage that? Like I'm saying all the that he's saying now it sound like he has building up and now he's throwing lies mixed in with it. But.
B
But you didn't make that up though. Somebody told you that you was gonna be.
C
No, he actually told me that. What he's trying to say is that I jumped the gun and said it publicly when I shouldn't have said it publicly. That's what he's trying to say. But there's no way in the world you didn't tell me that. And what happened was I went to my lawyer to try and negotiate the deal. And I think. I don't remember. I think I wanted 750 000. They was like, no, we was just gonna make you the president. And I'm like, nah, fuck it. And then when Jay Z must have came back from vacation according to Bleak. Cause I shout out to Bleak. I did Bleak's show rock solid. Yeah. And he was just basically like, Jay ain't like that shit. So that's kind of how that went. But no, it's no way I was making that up. That's exactly what you told me. You told me you wanted to make me and Beans vice president, president. Whichever way it went, I tried to negotiate the deal. The money wasn't right and obviously Jay Z didn't approve it.
B
But how can he call you out on that and then come up here and say he the chairman of revolt and nobody even told him. That's craz crazy. I'm just so glad he didn't take Cam show off.
A
Had to be crazy after that because they probably trying to Figure out what's going on.
C
So. So this is what happened actually, when all this was going on and this Dead series too, before it happened. Revolt hit me and was like, do you mind if we work with Dame? And I'm like, Because all the was going on. And I'm like, I don't really care. Like, they're like, it wouldn't be till 2026 because, you know, programming wise, the slots and feel. So I have two shows that I can put out starting this month that I want to put out. When that. When Daniel called me, I said, yo, no, not Daniel. I put it on. On Instagram. I told Daniel about it, but I'll put it on Instagram. I had two slots left. I said, revolt might want to work with you, but it ain't going to be till next year. But if you want the opportunity you gave me, I'll give to you. When I got on need to get off Epic Records, you gave me a chance to do music and you executive producer albums. I said, let me be give you the same opportunity and let me executive produce your TV shows. You ain't got to wait till next year. And you was going to give Revolt all your content for free. That's how bad he wanted it. At pause and I say, yo, I'll even pay you shout out to Big Fendi. That was the middleman for that. So I said, tell Dame this before I put it on Instagram. And Fendi was like, yo, the beginning of the conversation was cool. He was like, I bet. He said, but before I hang up, he's like, nah, that ain't doing producing my shows. He can't do that. No, no, no, he can't do that. It's ego. You was ready to do it for free and because you want me to, I can't because I want to executive produce the shows. That I don't get it. He's gonna do it for free. Now. You could do it and I can executive producer and give you a check. It's just. It was ego. So then that's when he went on to announce he was the chairman. And I never seen a force his way to try and be somewhere where don't want him in my life. The was wild.
B
Hey, yo, Fade in full right?
A
What. What stage of production or development is it in right now?
C
The series right now 50's feeling still trying to finish up some stuff in Shreveport because I believe he wants to do a lot of stuff in Shreveport, but it's probably not going to even be to the point to where we do casting. Maybe not till April or May or something like that. I think he wanted to just make the announcement, get the buzz going, because he's shooting, like, three TV shows, 1800 movies that. That works. And he does shows in between. But if I had to guess a timeline, I would say probably April or May for casting, But I think it's some loose ends. You want to get tighter in Shreveport. Okay.
A
Why did you do my one? Hold up. Because I want to audition.
C
Don't do me like Omar.
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Like.
B
You gotta be careful.
A
I know.
C
I mean, when it's time, I'll definitely let you know, but. Yeah, that's why I was telling the 5th when we were speaking. I said, yo, you put this announcement. I know he said he's gonna do it, but you gotta give me some more information, because now everybody's hitting me, all right? And, no, like I said, not in a good way, not in a bad way, but it's just like, I want. When you ask these questions, I want to have the correct answers. And I was teasing. I said, yo, you see, I announced I was the Vice President Rockefeller and went left. I don't want to be saying the wrong too early and. But definitely, I'll let you know. But I don't want to give saying and even announce on this show a date. I'm just guessing right now.
A
Yeah.
C
If I had to guess, probably April or May last, because we talked two weeks about it.
A
So does 50 have the rights to tell the story? Like, is that. Like, what's that conversation?
C
Because so basically, he has the rights to Paid in Full, I guess it was up. And he bought the actual rights to it. But he's going to slow the movie down to where you get Alpo when he goes to D.C. you know what I'm saying? You get more of the preacher, the one who actually kidnaps Rich's nephew. Yeah, you get his story. You know what I'm saying? You get DiMensio. I don't know if y' all even know about dimension, you know what I'm saying? That's one of the people Alpo killed over a girl. You get all these different stories. That kind of was sped up in the movie. When you slow it down throughout the series.
B
When you think about legacy, Cam, your legacy in particular, when you think about legacy versus peace of mind, which one do you value more at this stage of your life?
C
Peace of mind. Peace of mind is everything. Me, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, for me to still be doing what I'm doing, At this age. And even envy knows, like, he been. He's been doing what he's doing a long time for us to still be relevant, having fun and still coming up to like, to do like this. You know, how many people want to come up here and do this? You know what I'm saying? But for me, it's more like I get to. I love sports. I get to talk about sports all day, watch sports all day and talk about it for an hour. And me and Mace made tens. I don't want to just know we made tens of millions of dollars in the last two years. And then to jump off, pillow off that and then do talk with Flea and make a few million dollars. Like, you know, that's where I'm at. Like, where I could do. Build multi million dollar companies or brands and don't. And be me. I don't want to have to do some. I don't want to do at this point in life. So when you think of Pink horsepower, you think of multi million dollar company or talk. Talk with Flea. Multimillion dollar brand or. It is what it is, a multi million dollar company. I just love doing this. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm naming these shits. Like a hundred other things didn't work. You know what I'm saying? Like, people don't see the shit that don't work. It's 100 things that don't work. But just to figure it out at this age, like, it's gonna be 50 next year. I'll be just. But you figured it out early. Like, you.
B
You figured out peace of mind early on.
C
Oh, yeah. Peace of mind, absolutely. I get away from. I don't have time.
B
Because when people wanted you, it was like, where's Cam? I don't know.
C
He bought a crib in Florida. He killing.
B
He not doing nothing.
C
Yeah, because you gotta think about this right when you see. And I'm asking y'. All. This is a question. I'm asking y'. All. When you see somebody. And like I said, I don't want to bring it up, but I hate keep repeating them. Like I said, it's the last day. Do you. When you see a person like dame, do you look happy to you?
B
No, no, no.
C
That's what I'm saying. Like, happiness matters to me. Happiness and being able to pay my bills and all this other. You see, when. Sometime when you bring my name up to certain niggas, you just get mad and they emotional and they'd be like. I'd be like, yo, this Nick's angry. This nigga's really mad. I need. I want to be happy. I want to be laughing. Like, when you see me and Mace on the show, we be dead ass laughing to where we edit some of that out because we laughing that much. Like, that is cool to make money, laugh and go home and have a peace of mind. That means more to me than anything else. Especially at this stage in life. What the are we beefing and arguing about? Especially if you're making a couple dollars and then you don't want to be beefing with the. You grew up with it. Cool. And not at this age in life. You don't have to be around. But the end of the day, what the. How long you think it's supposed to be arguing with each other, you know what I'm saying? Or just in general arguing with anybody.
B
I think a lot of people in hip hop struggle to transition into new chapters of life.
C
So when they.
B
I'm like, I see somebody like Cam, I'm like, I want to ask him, how did you find peace and purpose outside of hip hop? Is it the other business ventures or.
C
Yeah, because listen, man, I talk about that and think about that all the time. I'm like, yo, and no disrespect to nobody out there. I'm just like, yo, I would hate to have to be in a club for 3, 200 tonight. 50, 49 years old. My yo, that shit would kill me. Like, like, yo. But some people, you gotta realize, think about this, right? Let's just use a better number. Let's use 5,000, 7, 500. I like, yo, I don't want to be in there nobody's club, then I don't want to be in for sunny 500. But if you do that every week and you're this age and just do it three times, you sitting there saying, yo, make 20,000amonth. That ain't bad. You know what I'm saying? That's not bad. Like, yo, it. I made 20,000amonth and I'm 49 years old. And this is great because you have a regular job and some people don't make that. I don't think that's a bad living at all. I'm just saying that isn't where I want to be. You know what I'm saying?
B
So definitely peace of mind also, too, with Harlem, man. Yo, Harlem. People talk about Harlem like it's Harvard. What does Harlem mean to you today compared to when you were like 18?
C
It ain't the same for me, you know? What I'm saying, not. Not at all. That's a great question. Because it's so gentrified. It's just not the same. And I may sound ignorant for saying it, but I miss the abandoned buildings. I miss the vacant lots and going up, driving, you know, walking to school and almost stepping on glass. Not saying, that's good and you shouldn't improve from that. But that's just my memory of Harlem. Like, when I see red Lobster on 125th street and H and M, I'll be like, this is crazy. You know what I'm saying? But it's gentrified. And, you know, to me, everything. But you gotta think about this too, right? Where I live is gentrified. Niggas. Like, what this nigga doing over here? You know what I'm saying? So you might got somebody white. Like, yo, what the fucking? Remember when it was all white over here? You know what I'm saying? So it's a balance. But just for me, Harlem isn't what it used to be. I'm not saying Harlem still ain't Harlem today, but just not the Harlem I grew up with. My man, I shoot. I sometimes shoot videos in this building and like that. And he's like, cam, y' all talk to the building manager. I'm like, all right, who is it? And the dude's white. It's like, yo, I thought you was the man. He's like, no, I sold my apartment to the. And now he's the manager. So now I got to talk to somebody white and go into a building that I've been going to my whole life to get permission to shoot something on a roof. So for me, it's not the same. But I understand it.
A
When you talk about Harlem, I know you mentioned earlier you and Jim's relationship not being the same. That's not like we're never going to get to see that sit down combo reunion. Like, anything at all.
C
I don't know. I mean, like I said, I just think that we're in two different spaces in life, and that'll mean I don't wish him well. And I don't mean Jewels and everybody. That was part of what we did, I think is a great movement, but sometimes things just come to an end. So I'm not. I would never say never, but it doesn't look like it's in the near future, but I do wish them brothers well.
B
What do you hope people say about Cam 20 years from now? In particular? What do they. What do you hope people say You.
C
Stood for, well, whatever. If you would sit there and watch everything I did since I've been 20, 21 years old. It's about helping people, of course, helping myself as well. But I always tried to make sure everybody, despite what anybody says, tried to make sure people around me had money or was getting money. Because I never wanted nobody to have to ask me for money. You know, it was one of those situations where I'm like, even. Even with Jim. You think about Jim. Jim wasn't a rapper. It's like, yo, we gonna make you a rapper. My. You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, you ain't gonna be around and not know how to rap. You know what I'm saying? I think Jim is one of the people that's grown more than anybody from the time he started to where he's at today. As far as music is concerned. He didn't know how to rap. We taught him how to rap. He's my hype man to where he's directing videos. So he had a job at Def Jam. The way he's doing albums, I think right now, people are respecting him lyrically more than anything else. But it was about always helping people. Even Jewels. Juels was in a bad deal. He's in a group called the Draft Picks. I'm like, I think I like you a little better than your partner. I could get you out the deal. Let's try and get you out the deal. Everybody I'm with has made money, whether they kept money or didn't keep money. Even other people that was on the label, which I won't name. It was always about putting everybody on and trying to make sure that they had a couple dollars. Because I didn't want people to have to ask me for money that was around me. So even like this nigga back here, Pink Horsepower, I'm glad he found his lane. Cause he was running out of time.
B
The killer comedy show man, tonight.
C
Thank you guys for having me. I appreciate it. Now, thank you for coming.
B
Get your tickets if you haven't got it. And where can they. Where can they order this at if they need ordering before you give it to them, too.
A
You gotta shake it.
C
Make sure you go to pink hyphen. Horsepower.net is going to lead you to the new website. Because it's a new website. I don't know it off the top, but it directs you to the website. So pink hyphen horsepower.net and make sure you go order something.
B
That's right. Hold up.
A
You said it's for men or it's for men.
C
I can take it too. So listen, the reason I was telling you, if you take it home, not for you to take.
A
Right.
C
Take it home to give it somebody.
A
Okay.
C
To your. That's what I'm basically saying. But for the last thing. For the last thing I'll say in this not 100 closed complex con. If anybody's going to be out there in Vegas coming up, me and sexy red are doing a drop of horsepower and whatever she got, I don't want to say the wrong name, but we're going to package it together. We're going to do a special drop for her sex pill for women. So. Oh, wow. So we'll try and send you some because she has something for women. I got something for men. And then you could take sexy rest joint.
A
Makes sense.
C
Yeah.
A
All right, cool.
B
Well, there you have it.
C
It's Cameron. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
B
Every day I wake up.
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Date: January 2, 2026
Guests: Cam'ron
Hosts: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God
Producer/Network: iHeartPodcasts
This “Best Of” episode of The Breakfast Club features a wide-ranging, candid, and highly entertaining conversation with Harlem rap legend Cam’ron. The interview is a “deep dive” into Cam’ron’s current ventures (like his talk show and Pink Horsepower), his musical legacy, business acumen, personal philosophy, and famous (or infamous) moments of pettiness. There’s insightful discussion about old and new relationships with fellow artists and recurring drama in the hip-hop world. With frank talk and lots of laughs, Cam’ron keeps the original New York attitude, serving up lessons on loyalty, business, peace of mind—and how to turn every situation into a win.
Cam’ron reflects on choosing peace of mind over legacy at this stage.
Discusses his ability to pivot into new businesses and the importance of happiness and autonomy.
Harlem’s gentrification lamented; memories of “the real Harlem,” change, and how community has shifted.
Relationship with Jim Jones: cordial, but no reunion on the horizon.
Quote: “Peace of mind is everything…to build multi-million dollar companies or brands and be me. I don’t want to have to do some s*** I don’t want to do at this point in life.” (57:10)
Cam's hope for his legacy: uplifting and creating opportunities for those around him.
On Making Music Worth It:
“A great album is like two weeks. You know what I’m saying? Like that. I’m talking about a great one. Last two, three weeks. The sh*ts don’t last.” (04:44)
On Why Mase Is Difficult:
“He gets in the mood and we gonna do. And then you be like, we not gonna do sh*t.” (05:14)
On Petty Payback:
“So I had a mutual friend. I was like, yo…how much are you booking [Omar Gooden] for? He’s like…$1200. I said, but I got $3,000 for the…And that’s how that went, because he wouldn’t stop doing records. And I already said I didn’t want a problem.” (22:11)
On Peace of Mind:
“I want to be happy. I want to be laughing…It’s cool to make money, laugh and go home and have a peace of mind. That means more to me than anything else.” (59:05–59:40)
On Harlem’s Changes:
“I may sound ignorant for saying it, but I miss the abandoned buildings. I miss the vacant lots and…walking to school and almost stepping on glass…” (61:31)
On Legacy:
“It was about always helping people…trying to make sure that they had a couple dollars. Because I didn’t want people to have to ask me for money that was around me.” (63:38)
Through a frank, sometimes hilarious, and always authentic conversation, Cam’ron distinguishes himself as both a shrewd businessman and a leader who prizes happiness and loyalty over fleeting glory. He’s candid about past beefs—even airing dirty laundry—but always returns to the themes of love for Harlem, empowerment for his team, and staking out new paths on his own terms.
For more information on Cam’ron’s businesses:
If you missed it, this episode is a must-listen—packed with entertainment and life lessons, delivered Harlem style.