Best Of Full Interview: Damon Wayans Jr. On Making His Own Name, Resurgence Of Black Sitcoms, Dad's Discipline + More

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Breakfast Club – Damon Wayans Jr. Episode

Podcast Information:

• Title: The Breakfast Club
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• Description: The World's Most Dangerous Morning Show, The Breakfast Club, With DJ Envy And Charlamagne Tha God!
• Episode: Best Of Full Interview: Damon Wayans Jr. On Making His Own Name, Resurgence Of Black Sitcoms, Dad's Discipline + More
• Release Date: January 6, 2025

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Introduction to Damon Wayans Jr. The episode features a candid and in-depth interview with comedian and actor Damon Wayans Jr., hosted by DJ Envy and Charlamagne Tha God, with Lauren LaRosa filling in for Jess. The discussion spans Damon’s personal journey, the legacy of the Wayans family in Hollywood, the evolution of Black sitcoms, and the dynamics of working closely with his father, Damon Wayans Sr.

Family Legacy and the Myth of the Illuminati One of the early topics delves into the pervasive rumors about the Wayans family being part of the Illuminati, a recurring conspiracy in entertainment circles.

• Charlamagne Tha God (00:22): "As a Wayans, right? Are you born into the Illuminati or you have to earn your spot like everybody else?"

• Damon Wayans Jr. (02:24): "No, I don't attach myself to that. I feel like that's a conspiracy."

Damon emphasizes that the family's success is rooted in collaboration and hard work rather than any secretive affiliations.

• Damon Wayans Jr. (03:23): "I think it's just family working together, you know? I feel like that's what we all should be doing."

Pressure and Personal Growth in a Renowned Family Growing up in the Wayans family comes with its own set of expectations and pressures. Damon shares his initial struggles with establishing his identity separate from his family's fame.

• Damon Wayans Jr. (06:03): "I had an alias when I went on stage. Kyle Greene. But I had to change it just to Damon, you know, to get on stage."

This decision marked the beginning of Damon carving out his unique path in the entertainment industry, moving away from being perceived solely as "part of the Wayans legacy."

Resurgence of Black Sitcoms: Past and Present Damon passionately discusses the decline and subsequent resurgence of Black sitcoms. He reminisces about iconic shows from the '90s and early 2000s and expresses a desire to see more Black-led comedies that resonate with modern audiences.

• Damon Wayans Jr. (08:09): "I had so many shows growing up – Fresh Prince of Bel Air, Living Single, Cosby Show, Different Martin. We had so many options on so many different channels."

He laments the disappearance of such shows and highlights the importance of "Papa's House" in reviving this legacy.

• Damon Wayans Jr. (10:31): "I love black people making each other laugh, black people making the world laugh."

“Papa’s House”: A New Chapter in Black Comedy Damon provides an overview of his latest project, "Papa's House," which premiered recently. The show centers around a divorced father—a popular morning radio DJ—whose life is upended when his immature son moves in next door with his own family.

• Damon Wayans Jr. (08:09): "Papa's House is basically about a papa who's a popular morning radio DJ living alone until his son moves in next door with his wife and two kids."

He emphasizes the show's aim to blend humor with heartfelt moments, addressing real-life issues while pushing the boundaries of traditional sitcoms.

• Damon Wayans Jr. (27:02): "Each episode gets funnier and funnier... we're pushing the envelope. We're competing against streaming and network shows that go for it."

Working with Icons: Appreciation of Hollywood History The conversation shifts to Damon's experiences working alongside legendary actors, such as Gregory Jeffrey (Elvin from "The Cosby Show"). Damon shares heartfelt anecdotes about his father's interactions with industry veterans and his own admiration for their craft.

• Damon Wayans Jr. (14:30): "He's a Shakespearean actor... really cool to see him in his element."

Comedy Evolution: Balancing Humor and Sensitivity A significant portion of the discussion revolves around the changing landscape of comedy. Damon expresses concerns that modern sensitivities may stifle the boldness that characterized earlier Black comedies.

• Damon Wayans Jr. (22:39): "People are just way too aware and way too sensitive. Leave room for comedy. It’s experimental."

He references iconic films like "Superbad" and "Bridesmaids," questioning whether today's standards would allow such comedies to thrive without backlash.

• Damon Wayans Jr. (22:35): "Superbad was classic, super funny. After that, it was like, no more black comedies. They don’t make them anymore."

Personal Stories: Discipline and Humor in Family Life Damon shares personal stories about his upbringing, highlighting his father's disciplinary methods and how humor was a tool to diffuse tension.

• Damon Wayans Jr. (28:53): "He would laugh because the belt would wrap around and hit the tip. He didn’t hit us a lot."

These anecdotes underscore the complex yet affectionate relationship between Damon and his father, blending strictness with comedic relief.

Collaboration and Control in "Papa’s House" Unlike his previous roles, Damon enjoys a greater degree of creative control in "Papa's House," allowing him to infuse personal experiences and collaborate closely with family members involved in the production.

• Damon Wayans Jr. (31:38): "This is the closest thing I've come to being on a show that I have control over."

He values the collaborative environment, wherein his family's comedic talents synergize to create a unique and authentic show.

Making His Own Name Damon reflects on pivotal moments that signaled his emergence as an independent artist. Landing roles in both "Happy Endings" and "New Girl" simultaneously marked a turning point where he began to be recognized for his own merits.

• Damon Wayans Jr. (33:03): "I felt like I can do my own thing."

This phase was crucial for Damon in establishing his identity separate from the well-established Wayans legacy.

Conclusion: The Future of Black Comedy and Damon’s Role As the interview wraps up, Damon reiterates his commitment to advancing Black comedy through "Papa's House," striving to create content that is both innovative and respectful of its roots.

• Charlamagne Tha God (35:05): "Salute to you for continuing to carry the torch the right way."

The hosts commend Damon’s efforts and express optimism about the show's potential impact on the entertainment landscape.

Notable Quotes:

• Damon Wayans Jr. (02:24): "No, I don't attach myself to that [Illuminati]."
• Damon Wayans Jr. (08:09): "I felt like I can do my own thing."
• Damon Wayans Jr. (22:39): "People are just way too aware and way too sensitive. Leave room for comedy."
• Damon Wayans Jr. (31:38): "This is the closest thing I've come to being on a show that I have control over."

Final Thoughts: Damon Wayans Jr.'s interview on "The Breakfast Club" offers a profound glimpse into his journey of self-discovery, balancing familial legacy with personal ambition. His dedication to reviving Black sitcoms and creating meaningful comedy underscores his role as a pivotal figure in contemporary entertainment. Listeners are left with an appreciation for his resilience, creativity, and the unique voice he brings to the world of comedy.

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[Charlamagne tha God]

Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club.

[DJ Envy]

Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy Jess. Hilarious Charlemagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Jess is on maternity leave, so Lauren LaRosa is filling in. And we got a special guest in the building.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yes, indeed.

[DJ Envy]

Ladies and gentlemen, we have Damon Waynes Jr.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Welcome.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Thank you, boss. Thank you, man.

[DJ Envy]

How you feeling, brother?

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

I'm feeling all right. When did Jess have a baby like, three years ago.

[DJ Envy]

About two months ago. Two, three months ago.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Congratulations. Still on maternity leave, so that's great. That's great.

[DJ Envy]

We'll be back shortly.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Listen, I always want as a Wayans, right? Are you born into the Illuminati or you have to earn your spot like everybody else?

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

The Illuminati.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You definitely don't get haze. They definitely walk you right in.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

No, I don't know. I don't know about Illuminati.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

No, man. How you get there?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Illuminati had to earn my spot.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

You did.

[Charlamagne tha God]

But I'm saying y'all, like, y'all been successful for so long.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Oh, so success means Illuminati.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You know that.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Come on.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

It takes. It takes it. You know? Yeah. You kind of just walk in at this point. Yeah, but, you know, I'm a conspiracy theorist, so. Yeah, I don't really. With Illuminati. Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I thought the conspiracy theory. The conspiracy theorists did, like, the whole Illuminati. Isn't that a conspiracy?

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

What?

[Lauren LaRosa]

The Illuminati.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

The Illuminati is a conspiracy.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

I don't attach myself to that.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Oh, God damn it.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Like, what the Are we talking about?

[Lauren LaRosa]

I'm a conspiracy theorist. I'm like, that. That's what y'all.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

No, you know, I. I'll be on YouTube. I'll be looking at the movies.

[Charlamagne tha God]

What are the conspiracies about the Wayans brothers, then? How's the Wayans family been so successful for so long?

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

I don't know if there's a conspiracy. I think it's just. It's just family working together, you know? I feel like that's what we all should be doing.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Absolutely.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

You know what I mean? Like, I feel like black people learn best by example, and so you have a bunch of examples, and you just copy them.

[DJ Envy]

Let's talk about the pressure of being.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Hold on one second. Did you study every member of your family? Like, did you watch everything Kenan was in? Did you watch everything your dad was in? Did you watch everything Marlon was in? Like, I'm talking about since you was a child. Like, did you study everything that they did?

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

I mean, I watched the stuff that I. Like there was ones I skipped. What did you skip?

[Lauren LaRosa]

What you skipped?

[DJ Envy]

What did you skip?

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Glimmer Man.

[DJ Envy]

I don't remember.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Glimmer Man. I don't remember the Glimmer Man.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

My dad. My Uncle Kenan did a movie with Steven Seagal.

[DJ Envy]

Glimmer Man.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Is that what it's called?

[Charlamagne tha God]

I don't remember that one.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Me either. Blank Man. No, no, I watched Blank man because I was in it.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, we just got a picture of you in it.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Oh, my God.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Dude, does that get on your nerves?

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Crazy. No, that's so cool. Yeah, we.

[DJ Envy]

Did you see Glimmer Man?

[Charlamagne tha God]

I don't even know what he talking about. I'm looking at. He pulled it down the Glimmer Man. It wasn't Glimmer. I don't remember this one.

[DJ Envy]

I definitely don't remember Glimmer Man.

[Charlamagne tha God]

1996. I missed that one.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Yeah, man. Yeah, a lot of people did.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Yeah, I like the comedies, you know, I like. Don't Be a Menace is one of my favorite. Classic Love Major Pain.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Classic.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That's my favorite.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

I love. What was that movie with Jada Pinkett and Uncle Keenan?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Oh, Lord shame.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, So I love those.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Those are like my top classics.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

And Blank Man. Cause I was in it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

So who. The everyday working class wins.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Everyday working class.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Any everyday working.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

We got a bunch of working class Wayans, okay? We got a big ass family. So there's like a lot of people that are just as funny as everybody, but they just don't feel like, you know, going through the Hollywood shit.

[DJ Envy]

But do they just work? Do they work on the set or do they have like.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

We have some that work on the set, you know, we got. I love it. Yeah, we got. We got Uncle Sean's right now.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Works in the papa's house.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Yeah. Aunt Kim, he's the showrunner. Yeah, how you know? Oh, yeah.

[DJ Envy]

Cause I was gonna act like I.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Knew this nigga live here. This guy, he live here, you know, I got my daughter works on the set. She's a. She's a stand in for Essence Atkins character.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Wow.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

And she be writing on the show too. She's great. Yeah, she's dope.

[DJ Envy]

Now we gotta talk about the pressures of being a whams. I mean.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Cause is it pressure though?

[DJ Envy]

Pops, uncle, family, cousins, like. Yeah, is there any pressure?

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

No, I don't feel like. I don't feel like there's pressure. I mean, maybe in the beginning. In the beginning, it was like I used to. I used to have an alias when I went on stage. Kyle Greene.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Really?

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And no one guessed it. You look.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Oh, no, that's just like your pops.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You look like the Wayans family.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

No, like the middle of my punchlines back. You look just like your damn daddy. And so I had to change it just to Damon, you know, but really, I was just trying to get my bearings, you know, I was trying to, like, get on stage. And I'd be like, come to the stage, Damon Wayne, son. You know, so that's.

[DJ Envy]

Why have you never got something. Because you were Wayne.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Like, they was like, ah, you're part.

[DJ Envy]

Of the family now.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Maybe. I don't know. They don't, you know, that's all that behind the scenes stuff. But, you know, they let you in, they'll let you in just because they want to see you, you know, like, oh, Damon Wayne's. When I first started, so I got in some. Some rooms and shout out to my family for making it easier for me. You know, a lot of people, you know, they get. They frown on the Nepo baby thing. I think it's great. I think it's like.

[DJ Envy]

I don't see nothing wrong with it.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

I don't either. I mean, I feel like it's a business. This is a business just like any other business. If it was a, you know, car manufacturer and then you pass it down to his son, stuff like that, it's just. That's what it is.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I think what y'all done is phenomenal, phenomenal. I was driving on the west side yesterday, and I saw the digital billboard for Papa's House.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

And they got a billboard out there.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah. And it was you and your pops. And I was just like, man, number one, that OG Damon Wayne's been getting it for a long, long, long time.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

That man's a killer.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And there's nothing cooler than being able to do what you love to do with your son. Like everybody, we love what Bron and Ronnie doing. Gotta give it up for y'all, too.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Yeah, man. I mean, I'm. I'm happy, man. It. We. We've had a really good time so far. We shot like 11 already. And, you know, it finally came out last night. And I'm just hoping, you know, people keep watching and seeing because it gets funnier and funnier. You know, the. The pilot is a good. It sets the stage, sets the characters, but we had a lot of suits. You know, they were like, kind of like making sure that we did what. What they wanted us to do. And then as time went on, they've let us spread our wings, and now we get to just be ridiculous and funny and heartfelt and, you know, I love it. I love seeing my dad every damn day.

[DJ Envy]

Well, what is Papa's House about? For people that don't know? Because it came out yesterday.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Yeah. Yeah. So Papa's House is basically about a papa who's A popular morning radio dj. Can you relate? Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, a little bit. And he is a. He lives alone. He's happily divorced. He basically lives his dream of solitude until his son, who was like, an immature, needy guy, moves in next door to him with his wife and his two kids and just kind of turns papa's life upside down. And that's basically the long and short of it. We were toying with the idea of calling it Raising Damon because it's like, you know, you think it's him raising me, but then you kind of see that papa needs some raising, too. You know, a lot of old school versus new school views. I think it's really cool. You know, I think it. I think my goal for the show is to bring back black comedies. You know, like, had I known that, you know, the 90s and the early 2000s, like, were never gonna be again, you know, like, there were so many options. We had. We had. We had Fresh Prince of Bel Air, Living Single, Cosby Show, Different Martin. We had so many options on so many different channels. And had I known that we're gonna have, like, nothing for, like, you know, over a decade, I would have appreciated it more, you know, Family Matters.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Nobody can explain to me why that went away, because it's not like all. All those shows were super successful. So what happened in Hollywood that they just flipped the switches? We don't want no more of this. Let's do reality television.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

I don't know. I feel like they always use. They always use black people to kind of build up the platforms and just do away with them. You know, you're. You know, the Living single Friends thing. The upn. Remember upn?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Absolutely.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

They use all them shows. Jamie Foxx show, too. Marlon Wayne, Marlon Wayans. The Wayans brothers.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Wasn't Moesho in there, too?

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Moeshe. Come on, now. So they had all these damn shows.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Your pop show, too. My wife and kids.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

My wife and kids. I didn't want to say that, because.

[Lauren LaRosa]

That was fly to me.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

I love my wife and kids, but, like, they had so. We had so many shows, and I feel like now what we have, we have Abbott, we have the neighborhood. Is there anything else?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Nah. You know, there was a resurgence, but a lot of them, Blackish and Grown Ish came out. Oh, yeah.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Blackish was great growing up.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah. Insecure, right? Atlanta.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Insecure was great. I'm talking about sitcoms now. Like, they don't ever. Yeah, like, the sitcoms, like, network tv. I feel like it's. You know, it's far and Few between. And I just hope that, you know, maybe the show gets popular enough to be like, oh, let's bring more of those. You know what I mean? I love it because I feel like people need to see black people enjoying themselves. Black people making each other laugh, black people making the world laugh.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You know how much of this show is just improv off the script? Because I know it's based on, like, you guys are really about to move next door to each other or something at one point.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a lot of. It's improv, you know, but we. We have a script, but we definitely do whatever we want because, you know, it's my dad's show and he'll just let people play, and so we having fun. You know, I like. I like to improvise, but, you know, there's certain characters that like to just do the script, and they're fine doing the script, but everybody's having fun.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Are you good at taking notes? Are you and your dad good at taking notes?

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Me? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I take notes. I mean, I take. I like constructive criticism. I mean, my dad, that's how he raised me. You know, this dude is the most brutal critic of all time. I did years ago, I did. What was it called? Def Comedy Jam. I did Def Comedy Jam. I was like, 25, 26. And I got a standing ovation. Like, I was nervous as hell. I got standing ovation. I do really well. I get off stage, he comes up to me, he goes, how do you think you did, son? And I go, I don't know, like, eight, nine. He's like seven and a half. And he just walks off.

[DJ Envy]

There was no context, no nothing.

[Charlamagne tha God]

No notes.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

No notes. Do better.

[DJ Envy]

Well, you know, how do you feel with your dad doing stand Up? And, you know, he would talk about you guys in stand up, and of course he talks about you, you know, masturbating all through the house at that time.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I can't wait to ask that question. So how did that come back?

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

You lit up with that one. Yeah, Boys got oh, geez. Louder.

[DJ Envy]

So how was that for you as a kid when your dad used to tell them stories?

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

It was. That one specifically was embarrassing because I remember one time I was. I was like, hooking up with this girl or about to hook up with her, and she was like, wait a minute, are you the guy that does the thing with spaghetti? And I was just like, what? And then she plays me a clip of the freaking video of him just, you know, talking about me going spaghetti again. I'll be right back. And, you know, I didn't get any that day, so, yeah, it messed me up. Damn.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Did you not get any? Cause she wanted you to do the spaghetti trick right then and there, and you was like.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

No, I was like, I'm not gonna. I'm like, you can do this spaghetti trick.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

No, she just. She just wanted to laugh him. She just laughed. It was very embarrassing. Damn. Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Y'all got Gregory Owens on the set. Yeah, right? The legend. Elvin from the Cosby Show.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Gregory. Jeffrey.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Jeffrey.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Yeah, his boy. And no, his. His name is spelled weird.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah, it's spelled with a G, almost like Geoffrey.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Yeah, Geoffrey.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And you don't want to call him Elvin because it's disrespectful.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Yeah, we got. We got him.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Do you pick their brain? Like, do you sit around and have conversations with him about how things were back then?

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Not really, but he and I have a lot of scenes together. We just shot an episode together. It was just kind of he and I and my wife on the show, and we just have so much fun together. He's so ready to play. He's so, you know, just happy to be there, and I'm happy to have him there. And it's just very, like, he's just such a. He's a Shakespearean actor, so it's, like, really cool to see him in his element. Like, we did something in this. In that episode specifically for him to shine, and. And he really did. It was really funny.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Do you think you have an appreciation for history, being that you're surrounded by it? I mean, you're making your own right? But you're always. I mean, your whole life, I'm sure Eddie Murphy or Senior Hall, Robert Townsend, these people were just there, like, so do you have a appreciation for it? Cause if it was me, I couldn't shut the fuck up. I'd be asking a million questions all the time.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

You know, my dad kind of instilled in me not bothering famous people. Like, I see them, and I give them respect, but I'm also like, you know, you do your thing, you know, I don't want to ask you the question that I know thousands of people ask you. Like, I see Eddie, and I just. Like, I'm in awe, but I'm also not gonna, like, show him that I'm in awe, you know? So I don't really. I don't like bothering famous people. But we did used to have a lot of fun. You know, we. My dad said that, you know, when I was A kid that he used to invite. That Eddie used to invite him and his family on their little yacht parties, right? And my dad would have to go on there with his, you know, his wife and me as a kid, I was like, two years old, maybe three. Three. And. And Eddie would be sitting there like, man, this is. This is nice, man. Like, looking at my family like, see, this is what I want. I want this. I'm gonna go some. And, like, he'd leave, and my dad would just be on the boat by himself with his family, and there'd be, like, a bunch of girls there and stuff like that, a bunch of celebrities, and it was really cool, you know? And I remember one time, well, my dad told me this. He said that.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That's what I want. He put it there, and he said, I want that with them business.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Yeah, that's what dad definitely. He's like, I want that.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

But. But Emmanuel Lewis, you know Emmanuel Lewis?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yes, man.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

So Webster, he was, you know, Emmanuel Lewis.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yes.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

So he was on the boat, right, one time, and. And he was, like, dressed fly. He had a suit on, had a watch and watch. He a little dude. And I. And I, as a baby, was confused because I'm like, you thought he was a big baby? I thought he was a big baby. I'm like, why? He.

[Charlamagne tha God]

How.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

You know, Autumn. Big words. Well, how you. Who gave you a watch? You know, I'm, like, following him around the whole. Oh, my God, the whole yacht, trying to, you know, see what's up with him. You know, just like, eyeing him out, like, who gave you them shoes? You know, where your diaper at? You know?

[Charlamagne tha God]

How old was you? You remember?

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

I was, too. No, he just told me. My dad told me. I was walking around following him everywhere. He was like, come on, man, go. He was, like, trying to shoo me away, man.

[Charlamagne tha God]

That is fucking cool.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

I'm like, come on, man. Like, come on, man, it's nap time.

[DJ Envy]

That's funny.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So what is the. You guys always keep ESSENCE Atkins booked? I know. She's in Papa's house. She plays Dr. Ivy Green. What's. What's the chemistry with her in the Wayans family? Like, can you talk a bit about that and a decision to bring her on this show, right?

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Well, first of all, ESSENCE Adkins keeps herself booked. Like, that woman is a phenomenal comedic actress. Phenomenal actress, period. But she's also, like, really funny. And initially, my dad. I didn't want her to be on the show because Uncle Marlon was like, yo, you gotta put it on you know, she's really funny. I don't know what you're doing, you know, and my dad was like, kind of, you know, like, no, he was on. She was on your show. I don't want to have that on my show. Like, leave it alone. And then finally he, you know, he was like, come in and read. And she went in and like, from the moment she walked in the door, she was killing us. Like, just so funny. Like, before she even said a word of the audition, she came in, killed it, killed it, left, and she was the first person up too. So everybody, like, she just sucked all the energy out the room and there was just like, no one was gonna do or top that. So, you know, so ESSENCE keeps herself booked. Like, she's just phenomenal.

[DJ Envy]

Now you also see the change of comedy, right? Because you've seen everything your family has done, right? From Blank man to Living Color. Do you think comedy can go back there without people getting insulted about getting offended, taking things personal?

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

I mean, I don't think so. I mean, I feel like.

[DJ Envy]

Can y'all do Blank man too?

[Lauren LaRosa]

The show kind of.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

We could do Blank Man. But there's Blank man offensive, though. I feel like.

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[Charlamagne tha God]

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[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Hello.

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Really?

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

That's the opening.

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[Damon Wayans Jr.]

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[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Blank man was like, pretty chill.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I don't remember. I have to go back and watch it again because what I. Because what? What we didn't think was offensive. Now when you back, be like, damn. Oh yeah. That would piss everybody off. Now you know what I mean?

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

True. How do you get away with all that?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Don't give a fuck.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Oh, no, I like it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

It's gotta keep going. Yeah. You know, treat it almost like comedians, right? Like, I'm not a comedian, but you gotta treat it like that. Like.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Yeah, you don't know.

[Charlamagne tha God]

You crash till you crash.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

That's true.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I'm not trying to crash, but, you know, that's true.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

And that's what, like, you know, like, that's what got you to where you are, you know? Same with you. Like, you guys. Like, I really.

[DJ Envy]

But I miss those shows. I miss the Living Color shows and those shows that push the line and.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Push the edge, you know, I don't know. I blame Judd Apatow. Bring it down.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I'm here for it.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Bring it down.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I'm always down to blame the white man for something.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

So, I mean, this is a conspiracy theory, but I don't think he did it intentionally. But I feel like it started with Superbad. Superbad came out classic, super funny. And then I feel like after that it was just no more black stuff, no more black movies. Like, it was just like, you know, they were like, we got it from here, niggers. And then they did all their, you know, it was like Jewish comedies, like starring Jewish people, Jewish young guys, which were really funny. Like, I love 40 year old version. I love Bridesmaids, I love Superbad. But I feel like it like just went that way. And then there was no more black comedies. Like, they don't make them anymore. Have you noticed that?

[Charlamagne tha God]

I wonder if it's because I think about what you're saying all the time, because I love the tone of all those movies. You. I even put get them to the Greek in that.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I wonder if it's because Hangover, they're willing to take more risk.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Yeah, well, they have, like, there's a.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Lot of things that they do in their comedy that I feel like some black people wouldn't necessarily.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Don't they have the room.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

I disagree. I say. I'm. I'm saying the opportunity is not there. I'm sure, you know, there's like bunch of black comedies being written. They're just not being shot. They're not. They're not being given to black comedians.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But I think he's asking, would like some of our big name black comedians, would they take those roles that are gonna push those boundaries? Because it could offend.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

But what boundaries?

[Lauren LaRosa]

I mean, people are offended by everything nowadays. So it depends on who you talking about and what you're talking about.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Well, it's a lot like back in the Day. When you look at Living Color and all of that stuff like that. They weren't afraid to pretend to be gay. They weren't afraid to.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

They wore dresses.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah. I'm not saying you gotta wear the dress, but they weren't afraid to push the limits. There's things that I feel like there's black people wouldn't do.

[Amazon Voiceover]

Yeah.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

I mean, now you just get critiqued for everything. But I think if it's funny enough, like, they'll let you do it, you know, like. Like we let Robert Downey Jr. Get away with blackface because it was funny. Right. And. But I don't think he could do that now. I don't feel like. I don't feel like anything is. I don't feel like. I don't even know if Superbad could get away with being super bad now. Maybe super bad, but like 40 year old virgin. I'm not sure. Right. Like these.

[DJ Envy]

Not even nerds.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Not even nerds. Which is crazy.

[DJ Envy]

Nerds is rapey, though. Now when you go back and look.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

I haven't, I haven't, I haven't.

[DJ Envy]

You go back and look, they'd be like, yeah, it's rapey.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I mean, there's scenes like, you know the guy when the guy dressed up, the girl thought it was her boyfriend, the costume he had on, but it was a whole other guy.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's rapey. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, it's kind of like I feel like people are just way too aware and way too sensitive. You know what I mean? Like, leave room for comedy. I feel like comedy is experimental. It's not the entire truth. It's like grains of truth. It's someone's truth, potentially. But in reality, the goal is to make you laugh, you know? And I feel like people shouldn't be watching stuff ready to be offended. You should be watching stuff, trying to laugh. If you're watching a comedy, if you want to laugh.

[Charlamagne tha God]

By the way, it's not even just comedy, though. I think about back in the day, like, why was Q in high school, the nurse in Juice? They didn't even give us an explanation. Like, there was no reason for.

[DJ Envy]

I didn't think about that.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Why was he just. Why was this nurse just the high school.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

I bet you. I bet you there was like a storyline that they just didn't have time to explore. They probably had to cut it. You know what I mean?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Are you guys gonna, like. Cause I don't. I feel like too. It's a lot of the networks Know that people will be offended, so they try to stay away even if they wanna try it, right? But in Papa's house, like, you guys have Essence Atkins, who's kind of coming in, and your dad is, like, the old school person who. He's, like, aware of the boundaries, but he doesn't really care. And she's like, you're gonna have to care. Are y'all gonna kind of play around with that a little bit more and take those risks, or is the network, like, we can be cute with it, but, like, no, because your dad be willing to go all the way there.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I love it.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Oh, he goes there all the time. Didn't he get in trouble on your. On your show, like, years ago?

[Lauren LaRosa]

I watched that last night.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I watched it last night. You have people dating for things. You resurfacing things for no reason.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Well, they put my picture during that whole controversy.

[Peter Tilden]

I remember just my picture.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

I do remember. It was bastard everywhere. I was like, come on, now.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I was like, he didn't say it, but guess what? Gotta pay for the sins of his father.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

That was crazy. What we. What did you say?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Y'all gonna push those boundaries on the show?

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Yes, we are. We have. And I think that, you know, once the suits, the CBS saw that we know what we're doing, they kind of, like, let us play, you know what I mean? And you'll see each episode gets funnier and funnier and funnier, and the characters get more and more well rounded. We deal with, like, real issues, too, which is kind of weird to have, like, serious scenes and stuff like that, but we. We do that, too, which just makes the comedy funnier. And I love what we're doing right now, man. It's. It's. It's very unique, especially on cbs. Like, we're definitely making CBS uncomfortable with the choices we're making, which I think is great, because we're pushing the envelope. It's like, we got. We. We're competing against streaming now, against network shows that go for it. So it's like, there's no time to really just play it safe.

[Charlamagne tha God]

What are you teaching your father? Because we all, you know, we always teach my father. You gotta be teaching them something, like, because, you know, your experience is totally different than his experience.

[DJ Envy]

Are you teaching him anything?

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

I. I don't know. You know, I don't. I. I really. Maybe be a little nicer. I don't know. I don't know.

[DJ Envy]

Is he nicer?

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

I feel like he's getting nicer. He's getting. He's Getting nicer. You know, he's, you know, he's cranky sometimes, but that's just how he's always been, you know? But then he, you know, he has, you know, his. He has really high highs. Like, if you make him laugh, you can get him out of a bad mood. That's how we used to get out of spankings. Make him laugh. Yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Tell me the close encounter, like, what's the club like? I'm talking about the belt. The ass about to be. And you come with that fire joke that made him put the belt down.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

So he used to swing the belt with, you know, like some people, like, fold the belt. He used to fold the belts. It would just be, like, long, right?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Like a whip.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Like a whip, yeah. And so when he was about to hit me, I was like, don't get my ding, ding. And I, like, it held my stuff. And then he just laughed because it would wrap around sometimes and go hit the tip, you know, he didn't hit us a lot.

[DJ Envy]

That sounded.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

We did when he did. Yeah. Yeah. But he was, you know, he got. He got his ass whipped when he was little, so he didn't really know, but he didn't hit us a lot. I. I can name. I can, you know, count on one hand. How many times I gotta ask?

[DJ Envy]

You're drinking soda and water this morning.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

I had to. I. I had a long day yesterday. Yesterday was long. So I don't even drink soda like that. Like, if my dad see this, he's gonna be pissed.

[DJ Envy]

The soda is the caffeine and water is the healthy.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Water is to flush it out. Caffeine is to wake me up.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Oh, you don't like coffee?

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

I don't like coffee. Makes me, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I already. I don't have a problem with that.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah. Copy Hennessy laxatives for me.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't even drink like that. I had two glasses of wine yesterday and I'm. I'm messed up right now. Jesus.

[DJ Envy]

Yeah, she had about seven and she's still fine.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Not seven glasses of wine, seven shots. No, I had like three glasses of wine last night.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Hey, but you a youngster, you could do that.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yeah, but what I do is you. I. I hydrate while I'm doing it because it makes it easier.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Yeah. Do you do it like salt? Like little Celtic salt? They said that you put salt in the. In the water. Supposed to really get into your bloodstream.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I've heard that.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I never heard of that.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Are you Ever afraid to work with your pops because, you know that he just, like, sabotaged his SNL situation and just walked. He purposely did things to get fired. Do you ever think that he might do that again?

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

I mean, I. I don't. I think he's. I think he's more patient now. I think he's. I think he just wants to make a good show and spend time with his family doing it. Like, I feel like this is, like, what he likes doing, and so I don't think he's gonna jeopardize that. Yeah, I mean, you know, maybe 10 years ago, maybe, but, like, now I feel like he's just, like, chill and just having fun. Like, we just be laughing the whole day. It's just. I love it.

[Charlamagne tha God]

And when, you know, you talked about, you know, Sean writing on the show and, you know, your Aunt Kim being a showrunner, do y'all even look outside of the family?

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

No, we have a lot of people that are from outside of the family, too. Like, there's, like, 12, 13 writers on the show.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You said they know you guys, though, right? Like, they're like.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Yeah, we all know they're family friends. Like, the showrunner. We. He. The showrunner wrote Major Pain with my dad. He wrote On My Wife and Kids with my dad.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So do strangers get a chance?

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Strangers get a chance, too? Yeah, we got some strangers in there.

[DJ Envy]

That sounds so crazy.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

We got some strangers.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Y'all are doing it the way black people should do it.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

I agree. And I think that, you know, and. And we're not bringing in stragglers. Like, we're bringing in people that contribute to the project. They're not just being like. They're not just there. Their name is Wayans. They're actually, like, contributing and being really good. Kenan Junior's in the writers room, which is. He's so damn funny. My brother Michael in the writers room. It's just great, man. I don't know. This is the closest thing I've come to being on a show that I have control over. Right. Like, I always kind of envy my family because, like, the first generation, because they got to come in as themselves. Like, this is who we are within living color. Like, this is who we are. Take it or leave it. This is funny to us. Like, I've been an actor for hire my entire career, so I've been funny in spots. But you can only be as funny as they allow you to be, and so I love that. This is kind of like, the next best thing, you know, it's still My dad's baby, but I get to contribute a lot, and he's very collaborative, so, yeah, Damon. Gotta go, Gus. Oh, yeah.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Well, two more questions. When did you feel like you started to make your own name for yourself? Like, people started saying, oh, that's. That's not Damon Wayne's son. That's actually Damon Wayans Jr.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

I feel like when I had the Happy Ending show and then I booked the New Girl show at the same time, right. And so there was, like, a whole uproar about that, and I thought that was pretty cool, because Happy Endings was my first. The first show I ever auditioned for, and then New Girl was the second show I ever auditioned for. So I felt like I was like, oh, I got. There's something. You know, I got something. And then after that, I just felt like I can do my own thing.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Are you gonna be part of the tour that they're doing?

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

They're doing a tour?

[Charlamagne tha God]

Yeah.

[Lauren LaRosa]

They didn't know about the comedy tour?

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

No. Hold them together. They don't be telling me nothing. I'm second generation.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Nah, they barely told us. We just thought they knew we was gonna drop.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

It was gonna catch you slipping. No, I saw that clip. I think I saw that clip.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You are so well composed.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

No, no, no. What I was gonna say is I think it's something else. I don't think it's a tour. I think it's something. I can't say, but what I think it is. But if it is what I think it is, it's gonna be fire.

[Lauren LaRosa]

We know that, but, like, it just.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Has to be something to immortalize the Wayans. I think, like, the Waynes need a 30 for 30 or something, like, you know what I'm saying?

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Oh, that'd be dope. But do they do that for.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I don't.

[DJ Envy]

I've never seen him do that.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Yeah, I mean, that'd be dope, but. No, it's gonna be. It's a what? It's. Is it. It's either like. It's like something on TV or film, I think. I think.

[DJ Envy]

What's it called?

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

I don't know. I can't say.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I think you might have said too much.

[Lauren LaRosa]

As soon as it drop, he gonna be the host, and we gonna be like, he was in here. Like, he didn't.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

But I gave more than he did.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Right.

[DJ Envy]

But this is your time to shine. Just imagine what they did to you last time. He wasn't even here. They put your page picture on things.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

You strong man.

[DJ Envy]

You should just blow it up right.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Now, no, I can't say because I don't. I don't know if it's true. Cuz if I say something and it's wrong true, then I'm gonna look like an idiot.

[Charlamagne tha God]

I get it.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

So they be, they, they, they don't even tell me that much. I hear like whispers. My family is just gossiping ass family, man.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Well, salute to you for continuing to carry the torch the right way.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Thank you, man. And salute to y'all, man. Cuz like I came here, I forgot how long, how many years ago?

[Charlamagne tha God]

At least over a decade.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Yeah. Yeah. And then to see what you guys became is just phenomenal, man. Appreciate you, brother.

[DJ Envy]

Papa's House, Mondays, 8:30 on CBS. Make sure you check it out. You can stream it on Paramount plus as well. And we appreciate you for joining us, brother.

[Damon Wayans Jr.]

Thank you, man.

[DJ Envy]

Damon Wayans Jr. It's the breakfast Club. Good morning.

[Charlamagne tha God]

Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club.

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